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March 19, 2012 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience #197 - Ari Shaffir
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ari shaffir
39:03
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brian redban
08:36
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joe rogan
01:33:02
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joe rogan
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I gotta find a new way to say that, Brian.
I can't keep saying it that way.
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Okay, this is the deal, folks.
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And we are anything if loyal.
Or loyal if anything?
Loyal if anything.
We're loyal people.
They've always been our sponsor, and even though it's a controversial subject, Brian and I both feel the controversy is very silly.
ari shaffir
What's the controversy?
joe rogan
The controversy is being sponsored.
That's ours for you, ladies and gentlemen, rthegreat.com.
It's being sponsored by a sex toy.
It's stupid.
It's ridiculous.
But half the show is nonsense.
This show, we're talking about sex toys.
We're talking about nonsense.
It's not like there's this noble content that's continuously being brought up on this show, and it doesn't deserve to be associated with something like A masturbation aid.
ari shaffir
What do you mean?
Everybody masturbates.
Who fucking cares?
joe rogan
It's not.
It's so silly.
To me, I will never give it up.
I won't give up the fleshlight.
Fuck you.
You're ridiculous.
They're paying us.
They've always paid us.
There's nothing wrong with what they're doing.
If you think there's something wrong with what they're doing, you're crazy.
If you don't want to be associated with them, good.
That means you're a silly person.
You're a silly person.
What do you care?
It's nonsense.
ari shaffir
When people bring up arguments like that, I'm always like, oh, let's not even talk.
joe rogan
Are we really pretending that we don't masturbate?
Really?
Why would you not?
You silly person.
brian redban
Have you ever pretended to masturbate?
joe rogan
No.
ari shaffir
Have you?
Pretended?
brian redban
Not really for a movie?
ari shaffir
Who are you trying to fool?
joe rogan
Brian, do you remember that time you were going to do that fucking movie and I talked you out of doing it, man?
ari shaffir
What movie?
joe rogan
I was going to do a film where they tied him up in a trunk of a car with his girlfriend.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
And I was like, yo, you don't want to have those videos out there, first of all, for people to get excited about.
ari shaffir
Tied them up in the trunk and then what?
joe rogan
It's a very specific type of porn.
It's like they want to see people that are kidnapped and they want to see people that are completely...
Oh, yeah.
They have fantasies of kidnapping people that they don't like, maybe, and they don't really go through with it, but they want to kidnap this guy and fuck his wife in front of him, you fucking piece of shit.
There's a lot of guys that feel like that.
ari shaffir
Was it going to be a fuck film with you?
brian redban
Well, don't you think if that's true, Michael C. Hall is somewhere like shivering, crying, hiding, you know, the guy that played Dexter or somebody like that, you know, all these people that are serial killers or...
joe rogan
Well, yeah.
unidentified
Don't you think that they're all...
joe rogan
You do have to think about that.
That is a legit concern.
I mean, look, I'm not in any form or any way trying to say that we should have any kind of censorship in this world, but the reality is there's people that watch a show like Dexter and say, I would like to do that too.
ari shaffir
Who?
brian redban
Have you seen my Twitter avatar?
joe rogan
A guy in Canada got arrested for doing the exact same thing.
ari shaffir
It's a fucking three's company too, or whatever her name was.
joe rogan
Even filming the guy, even filming the people, and doing it completely Dexter style.
ari shaffir
Oh, they tried to copy it?
joe rogan
Oh, he did do it.
He was inspired by Dexter, so he went out and killed a bunch of people.
ari shaffir
Oh, really?
joe rogan
Yeah, he tried to kill some bad people.
brian redban
Have you seen my Twitter avatar?
joe rogan
No, what's your Twitter avatar?
brian redban
You would probably get really mad at me if you saw my Twitter avatar.
ari shaffir
Brian, were they going to make you fuck in this thing?
brian redban
What?
ari shaffir
Were they going to make you fuck in this thing?
Or was it just a film?
brian redban
No, no.
They were just going to kidnap us and tie us up.
joe rogan
Who's going to do it for money?
brian redban
Yeah.
ari shaffir
It's acting.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
I've seen that picture before.
brian redban
Yeah, my heart's torn out.
That's like gory.
There's blood dripping on my face.
joe rogan
You don't think I've seen that?
That should have been in your picture forever.
unidentified
I know.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's gross.
You should be careful with those things.
I mean, look, it is what it is.
You're expressing yourself.
If you feel the need to express yourself getting murdered, go ahead.
But I think there's a little something creepy about putting out videos of you getting tied up in your fucking trunk.
99.9% of the people, you're absolutely right.
That's nothing.
It's not going to trigger anything weird.
But there's that one-tenth of one percent that just sees that and just thinks, I would like to fucking do that to him.
brian redban
Yeah, well, I'm glad you talked me out of it so I could torture my fleshlight.
ari shaffir
That was also that guy that wanted to kill the president because of the taxi driver.
joe rogan
Exactly.
ari shaffir
But you can't really worry too much about crazy people.
joe rogan
Anyway, folks, fleshlight's a hell of a product.
brian redban
Torture your fleshlight.
Fucking strangle that bitch before you fuck it.
joe rogan
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How's that?
brian redban
Fleshlights don't have hearts.
joe rogan
They don't.
Yeah, but don't be mean to them.
unidentified
You can fuck it always.
joe rogan
It's a spiritual thing.
ari shaffir
Do you think it's people that are mean to them and that's what they get off on?
joe rogan
Could be.
ari shaffir
Like punching it?
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All right, freaks.
Ari the Great is here.
unidentified
All right.
joe rogan
My pal, Ari Shafir.
unidentified
The Joe Rogan Experience.
joe rogan
Ready to break shit down.
unidentified
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ari shaffir
That was one of the greatest moments in my life.
unidentified
That was the coolest shit ever when he did that.
joe rogan
In the middle of the fucking octagon when he said that, I was like, wow, we just got the best commercial of all time.
Nick Diaz throws his arms up in the air.
ari shaffir
Somebody got mad at me on Twitter recently for going against the suspension.
We're talking ill of it.
joe rogan
Really?
Well, if folks don't know, Nick Diaz got suspended or he's in the process of a hearing right now about his use of marijuana.
He only tested positive for the metabolites in his system.
And I guess what his lawyer is arguing is that metabolites aren't illegal and that the marijuana is illegal.
And you're not allowed to have marijuana in your system, but you don't even have a law for metabolites.
ari shaffir
Oh, I thought it was like metabolites are only remnants.
And the last time he was smoking when he got those remnants was when he was legally smoking by the state of California.
joe rogan
The metabolite that actually was in his system is an inert metabolite.
The metabolite that he tested positive for is not psychoactive.
So the only thing that he tested positive for was a non-psychoactive cannabinoid.
There's, you know, I don't know how many cannabinoids.
I shouldn't talk about this until I talk to Todd McCormick.
ari shaffir
Why don't they just let him smoke pot though?
It's like it's not a performance enhancing drug and it doesn't hurt the person.
joe rogan
I get in this argument with people.
I get in this argument with people and a lot of people have been angry at me about this because I said that I think marijuana is a performance enhancing drug.
And it is if you're good.
It is if you're good with pot and it is if you're good with the martial arts.
It is enhancing.
It's not necessarily enhancing.
You could give it to one guy and his emotions and his nerves and everything just because of the fact that he's about to enter into a cage fight.
It might overwhelm him and he might just lose his shit.
But you could give it to...
I guarantee you could give some weed to BJ Penn and he'd go out and fuck people up.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
B.J. Penn, I don't think he would have any problem with it.
He's an OG. You know what I mean?
He's a veteran.
ari shaffir
So you think he'd be better?
joe rogan
I think the jujitsu, those guys never roll sober.
You've got to understand, there's a lot of these guys, like high-level guys.
ari shaffir
So they just try to get back in the same place?
joe rogan
I don't want to name any names because some people don't like people talking about it.
So I'm going to tell you, but...
High-level jiu-jitsu guys that you've heard of in videos and everybody mimics them with their own game.
A lot of those guys smoke weed.
unidentified
A lot.
joe rogan
It's a big percentage.
And they smoke weed and train.
And look, I always go back to Eddie Bravo because he's my best friend, but he's also one of the best jiu-jitsu instructors in the world.
And I've never seen Eddie do jiu-jitsu when he wasn't high.
ari shaffir
Sometimes he gets so high he can barely teach and he's like, I don't know where I was going.
joe rogan
But he'll tell you.
He'll tell you that it enhances him.
He'll tell you that it enhances his sensitivity.
It puts you in the flow better.
It lets you...
ari shaffir
Okay, but so does, let's just say, vitamin B or whatever else you take.
joe rogan
Oh no, they're very different though.
Vitamin B is very good as far as your body's ability to perform, yes.
But not as far as being able to change your state.
The thing about marijuana is it's so euphoric, and it's so mind-expanding, and what it does when you have the feeling, and this, by the way, is not for everybody.
Obviously, everybody's brain works in different ways, but with my personal experience, I get this wave of understanding when I get high.
And that prepares me for things, man.
That's one of the reasons why I like to get high before I do big, giant shows.
ari shaffir
Yeah, it slows everything down for me.
I play poker tournaments high.
joe rogan
Yeah, pool is fantastic high.
I play a ball better when I'm high.
ari shaffir
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
That's another thing you'll say.
At a tournament, you'll see all the poker pros, you know, running to their car as it breaks.
joe rogan
Yeah, marijuana is an enhancer.
It is an enhancer.
It just is.
brian redban
Do you think it affects your judgment, though, to do stuff?
Like in jiu-jitsu.
Like, I mean, you watch a movie Stoned, and you might think it's awesome.
The next day, you think it sucks.
If you're doing jujitsu with somebody or MMA, maybe you would do something you normally wouldn't do because you're thinking something different, you know?
joe rogan
Well, you could, but that could lead...
See, what you're saying is that you would make a big mistake.
brian redban
Not a big mistake.
You just do something that you normally wouldn't do.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Well, that would be a positive, though, a lot of the times.
As long as you're good.
Again, as long as you're good.
Because if you're a good jujitsu player, if you're a good grappler, you have a fundamental understanding of where you're supposed to put yourself, where you're in danger, where you're not in danger, what can be done.
All these moves tie into each other.
When you learn how to do butterfly hooks, Butterfly hooks, you know, you learn how to manipulate people's bodies.
That all of a sudden becomes a way to move people around, just like with your hands.
And that adds to all these other techniques that you do.
So there's literally a limitless number of moves and positions.
I mean, there's so many different variations, so many different counters to those variations.
As long as you have a deep understanding of positions, and as long as you have a deep understanding of what's dangerous and what's not, you're not going to usually put yourself in a bad spot.
I mean, occasionally, if you're training with friends, you'll say, can I do this?
Let me just try to do this.
Because you won't worry if you get mounted or something like that.
You're not in a competition where it's for your life.
Whereas if you were in a fight, you wouldn't try this position.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
But I think that's where a lot of new moves come from.
ari shaffir
Yeah, because it helps you with stand-up where it helps you riff a little more.
Like, let me try this.
But that can also lead you to a bad place where you're like, oop, that went nowhere.
joe rogan
You can fuck up, man.
All the time.
We both do it all the time.
I mean, I did it this past weekend a couple of times.
ari shaffir
It's like two out of three fuck-ups.
It's like plenty of like...
joe rogan
Well, when you're doing new shit, especially, like at the Ice House, I did a lot of new shit this weekend, and I'm preparing for this special in Atlanta, which, by the way, if you go to my Twitter feed or go to JoeRogan.net, there's a link for it.
We're at the Tabernacle on 420, and I'm going to be filming my special.
ari shaffir
Did you already sell it one show?
joe rogan
Yeah.
The first show's gone, and then the second one's selling fast.
So if you want to get in, I would love to have you guys come down.
It's going to be a lot of fun.
It's going to be crazy.
I'm psyched to do it in Atlanta, too, because I haven't been in Atlanta in a long time.
brian redban
What is a tabernacle?
joe rogan
Brian, it's in the video!
brian redban
What is the Terran...
What is it?
Like, what is...
Is that like an ink?
Is that like a nut?
Because everyone acts like that.
Everyone knows what one of those is.
joe rogan
I've never heard of one.
It's just a name.
ari shaffir
Tabernacle?
joe rogan
Tabernacle.
ari shaffir
Well, that's always like the Tabernacle Choir.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a nice name for something.
ari shaffir
For what?
joe rogan
You know, it's like...
I don't know.
I mean, I should...
unidentified
I don't know.
Look it up.
ari shaffir
What is Tabernacle?
brian redban
I have no idea.
I feel like I'm stupid for not knowing what it is.
joe rogan
Yeah, if you told me it was the Tabernacle Buffet, I would say, wow, it must be.
An excellent buffet.
I'm sure it's like...
ari shaffir
That buffet is regal as fuck.
joe rogan
It's like Rolls Royce or something, you know?
It's like some name.
ari shaffir
Tabernacle?
joe rogan
Tabernacle, Wikipedia.
Residence or dwelling place?
Wow.
The tabernacle.
It's Hebrew, bro.
brian redban
That's why I don't...
ari shaffir
It's English.
joe rogan
It's your people, man.
How the fuck do you not know this?
Yeah, well, that's what I mean.
The tabernacle is a residence or a dwelling place according to the Hebrew Torah Old Testament.
brian redban
See, it just sounds annoying.
joe rogan
Well, I don't know how that got to Atlanta.
Is there a lot of Jews in Atlanta?
ari shaffir
No.
joe rogan
Christians started using it?
Is that what it is?
ari shaffir
Yeah, I guess so.
Maybe that was the English translation for a hut.
Huh.
joe rogan
That's interesting.
So, it's just a house.
It's just like a super fancy way to say house.
ari shaffir
Tabernacle.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
You're right.
I've never known what that word meant.
joe rogan
So that's where we're at.
Tabernacle.
And it's on 420, which is just so silly.
We had to do it.
ari shaffir
Oh, it's perfect.
joe rogan
It's so silly we had to do it.
ari shaffir
When you told me you were thinking about it, I was like, no, dude, let's probably just do that.
joe rogan
No, it costs us extra money to do it this way.
Really?
Yeah, everybody else wanted to do it the next month.
But I was like, you know what?
It's 420. It's just so silly.
Let's just get in there.
Just get in and film it on 420?
It's just so perfectly goofy.
It is.
I love how Doug Benson does his 420 shows at 420 in the afternoon.
Because look, yes, it's preposterous, it's silly, it's ridiculous, but he's cut out everybody but his hardcore fans.
ari shaffir
He's showing up at 420 in the afternoon on a Sunday to watch.
joe rogan
There aren't casual Doug Benson fans showing.
brian redban
Do you guys ever have a screen name that had the 420 in it?
joe rogan
No.
How dare you?
unidentified
You did?
joe rogan
Clearly you did.
Did you ever have one that had 69 in it?
brian redban
Probably.
I definitely had Red Band 420 back in the day.
joe rogan
2012, bro!
Yeah.
No, I never did.
brian redban
AOL or something.
ari shaffir
Wait, let me ask you a question, though.
Ah, fuck it.
joe rogan
Who cares?
No, ask.
ari shaffir
Why should something, if it just enhances yourself, why should certain those things be banned?
joe rogan
Okay, back to the weed being an enhancer.
Well, it's all in, what does it, you know, look, the reality is everything you take is a performance enhancer, from vitamins to minerals to a good diet.
ari shaffir
Isn't it just what's harmful for your body?
unidentified
Yeah.
ari shaffir
That's what they try to outlaw?
joe rogan
No.
What they're trying to do is they're trying to stop low-level physical engineering.
And that's what steroids are.
It's low-level.
It's inevitable that they're going to come out with nanobots.
It's inevitable they're going to have the ability to literally change your genome.
It's inevitable.
It's going to happen.
It's coming.
It's going to happen.
unidentified
The doctor in Star Trek, Deep Space Nine, he was all genome dead, right?
ari shaffir
Yeah, he could have bullseyes every time.
joe rogan
It might not be in our lifetime.
I mean, it might be in another lifetime after us, but sometime, if you look, as long as we don't blow ourselves up or get hit by a fucking asteroid, we're going to make things better.
There's not a technological wall they're going to hit.
These fucking guys are coming up with incredible discoveries.
And these incredible discoveries actually make those other incredible discoveries easier.
All the technology essentially works together as far as computer processing power and as far as knowledge gained and learned and you build on that.
Instead of having to redo those experiments to get to a certain point, you're already far, far along the process.
And then these new minds just add to it.
They're gonna figure out a way to do something that's way crazier than steroids.
They're gonna figure out a way to make Dr. Manhattans.
They're gonna figure out a way to make giant blue dudes with giant blue dicks.
I mean, it's gonna be real.
It's gonna be unstoppable.
Once it becomes an actual technology...
ari shaffir
Once they get over the morals of it.
joe rogan
Then it's only a matter of time.
Is it 100 years?
Is it 200 years?
ari shaffir
We'll breed workers?
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
We'll breed workers?
joe rogan
We will be unrecognizable 200 years from now.
ari shaffir
You think so?
joe rogan
As long as we stay alive.
ari shaffir
And keep cloning and getting more and more stuff.
joe rogan
We're trying really hard to fuck it up.
We're trying really hard to eat every fish in the fucking ocean and then throw all of our shit in there and plastic.
ari shaffir
People live longer.
They accomplish more things.
joe rogan
Yeah, but we're still trying to fuck up the ocean.
ari shaffir
We're going to overcrowd this place.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's an issue.
They say you can produce enough food in one state of the country.
If you take North Carolina, if you filled North Carolina with farms, you could produce enough food to feed the whole world.
But I say, fuck you.
I say, you're crazy.
I think your calculations suck dick.
ari shaffir
They're way off.
joe rogan
Yeah, you could barely have people scratch by.
And North Carolina's not that big, stupid.
And by the way, those people are just going to make more people.
And then what are you going to do?
Are you going to move into South Carolina?
unidentified
Could you really keep everyone in the world with...
ari shaffir
That's assuming there was like a line up to the door of North Carolina.
joe rogan
Right now I think we're okay and we'll probably be okay for another generation.
But we're eventually going to reach a point in time where there's too many people.
I mean, we're okay here in America.
They're certainly not okay in other parts of the world.
ari shaffir
Population bomb.
Population explosion.
Rachel Carson and her husband wrote books about it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
But that's the number one problem for our population.
It's when it explodes and can't sustain itself.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, it has to.
ari shaffir
It reproduces exponentially instead of geometrically, so it's not like two this year, two more next year, two more.
It's like two, then five, then nine, then 20. It just keeps going.
joe rogan
Fuck.
ari shaffir
So it'll be the last minute.
I'll just go, and we'll just fill this place up, and we'll all just humongous plague.
joe rogan
Yeah.
That's a real issue, right?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
How do you stop that?
ari shaffir
Rain is going to come.
joe rogan
You know, you got to wonder.
You got to wonder if, you know, human population has like a number, like a cap that you have to keep it at.
ari shaffir
I think that's what AIDS is.
joe rogan
Really?
ari shaffir
AIDS, the plague.
It's all just nature's way of trying to fight it.
joe rogan
Well, how come there's less plague today then?
That doesn't make any sense.
There's way more people.
Way more people, but way less plague.
ari shaffir
I think things come up because of it.
joe rogan
Well, I think sort of, but we combat that with science.
ari shaffir
Yeah, we're outdoing nature's way of combating it.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, we're greedy bitches.
ari shaffir
Like your body can fight off certain diseases when it's presented with too many coughs.
It's like, I'm out.
joe rogan
Right.
ari shaffir
It's all my blood cells are gone.
joe rogan
Right.
Yeah, I wonder what I mean.
Somebody actually brought that argument up recently.
I forget where it was.
But the idea was that a virus was actually engineered.
That viruses engineered by nature to attack humans.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
Keep us off.
unidentified
Isn't that fucked up?
brian redban
I think we just have a thousand words.
ari shaffir
That's all we got left.
joe rogan
A thousand words?
What is that?
ari shaffir
Eddie Murphy movie?
joe rogan
How dare you.
ari shaffir
When are you going to stop making bad movies?
Do they have enough money?
Doesn't he have enough money?
brian redban
Another 0% on Rotten Tomatoes, too.
unidentified
Last I checked.
ari shaffir
You can just not make any movies if you want.
You have enough money.
It can't be about the money.
It can't be.
brian redban
Go back to comedy.
ari shaffir
But that guy was hilarious.
So, like, I know he can do that.
He has moments.
joe rogan
We gotta get him on weed.
We gotta find him.
brian redban
He has to already be on weed.
ari shaffir
He doesn't smoke pot.
joe rogan
I don't know.
His brother does.
Charlie smokes weed.
I never smoked with Eddie.
He must have tried it.
I'm sure.
ari shaffir
His brother did.
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm sure.
ari shaffir
Why do we think he didn't?
joe rogan
Charlie Murphy gets high as fuck.
ari shaffir
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, he gets high.
He smokes blunts.
He smokes those ones with the tobacco on the outside.
We got high.
That was a totally different high.
That's weird.
That's a weird high, man.
ari shaffir
What tobacco makes that?
joe rogan
Well, the tobacco's not mixed in.
It's the leaf.
ari shaffir
Okay, that's not bad.
joe rogan
Which, by the way, yeah, it is bad.
Here's the deal.
You're not supposed to smoke cigar leaves.
You just inhale, you puff those.
ari shaffir
Oh, but they're smoking them.
joe rogan
But they're inhaling them.
So they're taking these cigar leaves that you're not supposed to be inhaling in the first place.
And they're inhaling them with their weed.
It's craziness.
I'm like, this is not the way to do it, man.
You know, they like to do those real Philly blunts where you take the Phillies.
ari shaffir
They like to get fucked up.
They're like, give me the worst shit.
Just fuck me up.
joe rogan
Phillies are disgusting.
The idea that you would take one of those shitty cigars, those shitty grandpa cigars, and actually inhale it.
unidentified
It's like Tiramisu.
brian redban
You can't have it once in a while.
You don't do it every day.
joe rogan
I had a couple cigars before that were like sweetened cigars.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Have you ever had those before?
ari shaffir
Swisher Sweets.
brian redban
Swisher Sweets, yeah.
ari shaffir
What was the grandpa version of that?
brian redban
The grape ones are good too.
joe rogan
You get a nice buzz off a cigar.
That's what people don't know.
You know, a lot of people don't know.
You can get just as high off a good cigar as you can off shitty weed.
ari shaffir
My first cigarette, I finally smoked like once every few weeks.
You know, like when I was in college or when I just started, it was like, when you have one, it's like, whoa, it's a major buzz.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, the real, a deep tobacco buzz, like especially real tobacco, like cigar tobacco, it's nice.
It's a nice feeling.
I mean, those dudes aren't doing that just because it looks cool.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, they're getting high.
They're getting high from that tobacco.
It's a weird high.
brian redban
They're getting nasty.
ari shaffir
The Sklar Brothers, I used to smoke before I played basketball outside on the courts, and I got picked up once, and they're like, all right, come on, we're starting.
I had to, like, take my last few puffs off a cigarette.
Yeah.
I forget if it was Randy or Jason, but one of them was like, Ari, you have to quit smoking.
I was like, I know, I know.
They're like, it's bad for your health.
I'm like, I know.
And they're like, it makes you stink.
I'm like, I know, I know.
And they're like, it's not cool.
I'm like, well, that's where you're wrong.
Clearly it's cool.
That's the only reason anyone has ever started smoking.
joe rogan
It's cool?
ari shaffir
It's cool.
joe rogan
How's it cool?
ari shaffir
Cool people, that's just always been a cool thing.
joe rogan
It's been an I don't give a fuck thing.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, that's the reason why people smoke cigarettes is because they don't give a fuck.
I don't give a fuck.
You know, you see a private investigator in a movie and he's taking a drag off his cigarette.
That guy doesn't give a fuck.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
He's not even, you know, he's feeding his own monster.
Feeding his own monster with a cigarette.
ari shaffir
It's funny when you see actors smoke cigarettes.
joe rogan
It is weird.
ari shaffir
Because you never see them in movies do it, but it's only when they're off.
joe rogan
I see a lot of them on set.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
You see them stamp out, and I'm trying to quit, and they're always trying to quit.
Puffing the little set.
ari shaffir
They just go until you're ready to quit, and then quit.
One or the other.
joe rogan
The best is when you're on a set and everybody's high.
When you get on one of those sets, where everybody's high, all the writers are high, the actors are getting high, the director's high.
ari shaffir
That's great.
joe rogan
Those are the real movies.
unidentified
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Me and Renazisi did those Tiger Woods commercials.
And so then he left and we had to keep talking trash to ourselves as we played the video game.
And they were like, want some beers?
We're like, okay.
And they just started giving us beers, the production company.
And they're like, keep talking trash, whatever.
And they're like, want to smoke some pot?
And we're like, you better not.
We're not going to get any work done if you do that.
But this is very cool of you guys.
joe rogan
That's awesome.
Yeah, if you're with a good group of people, man.
They want to have fun.
That's the way to have fun.
I mean, think about how we do the podcast.
You know, we get high before every single one of them.
We're always doing the ice houses drunk.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
I brought a bottle of wine last night.
ari shaffir
Did you really?
brian redban
You're classy.
joe rogan
I brought a bottle of wine.
We're drinking wine out of plastic cups.
ari shaffir
Why not?
joe rogan
It's fucking great, man.
unidentified
You know?
joe rogan
It's decent wine.
At Cavaretta's.
Cavaretta's Deli in Canoga Park.
That Italian place.
Holy shit, is that place good.
ari shaffir
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, I picked up a bottle of wine and some sandwiches.
Boom!
ari shaffir
That's nice.
joe rogan
It's the only place here on the West Coast where you can get real East Coast Italian food.
ari shaffir
Cavaretta's?
joe rogan
Cavaretta's, yeah.
It's in Canoga Park.
Sandwiches are amazing.
ari shaffir
What's Canoga Park?
joe rogan
They have a sausage and pepper sub that I cannot not get.
I have to get it every time.
I always say, well, I'm going to experiment this time.
Nope.
I've got to get this sausage and pepper because it's so ridiculous.
To eat a whole one, you have to be some kind of massive.
It's ridiculous.
It's preposterous.
You have to be some crazed glutton to eat a whole one.
I have eaten a whole one before.
ari shaffir
That's what I thought.
Yeah, I'm sure you have.
You're an animal.
When we took Joey?
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
I've seen you at Greasy Tony's or whatever those places were where you got the garbage pail.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Whatever it was.
And I almost got the small.
unidentified
Garbage pail.
ari shaffir
It was way too much for me.
And you're just killing yours.
I'm like, fries please.
What?
brian redban
That sub was dangerous.
joe rogan
The Greasy Tony's?
brian redban
Yeah, Greasy.
That was like liquid death.
ari shaffir
Greasy Tony died of heart failure at 52. I know.
brian redban
I'm glad I only had like seven of those.
joe rogan
I think he was in his 60s.
I think he was in his 60s.
He might have actually even been 70. He actually looked good for his age.
He looked a lot younger than he was.
But yeah, he did die of heart failure.
brian redban
What if he was like 24?
joe rogan
When a guy named Greasy Tony dies of heart failure...
But I tell you what, man, I always loved being around that guy.
We got pictures for years.
Yeah, he was so nice.
This was in Tempe, Arizona, right across the street from the Improv.
There was this 24-hour Italian joint run by this guy from Jersey, and he was a great old character.
We would just hang out there after the shows.
He was so cool to be around, just to get to hang out with a real character like that guy.
You know, like, you look in the walls, it was all, like, his pictures when he was young.
Like, his sons are all flexing.
There's a picture of the godfather, a picture of the sign by Sylvester Stallone.
And you're like, what?
brian redban
Where are you?
joe rogan
It's so classic, old East Coast Italian.
And you realize, like, yeah.
And he was so friendly.
He was, like, such a nice guy that, like, you would go there.
It was, like, you know, like going over your friend's living room or something.
It just happened to be...
ari shaffir
Hey, look at the back.
joe rogan
Hey, look at the back.
Comes up behind the counter.
He's hugging you and shit.
Greasy Tony was awesome.
What a great guy.
And the food was fucking perfect.
When you're hammered and you're coming off of two shows at the Tempe Improv, and you're like, yeah, let's go eat, and you have one of those subs, those fucking steak subs that he had, the thing called the garbage pail that you were talking about, what does it weigh?
Four pounds?
Five pounds?
brian redban
I don't know.
joe rogan
It was ridiculous.
unidentified
It was gross.
brian redban
And it was just dripped grease.
joe rogan
It was like no bullshit.
It was close to two feet long.
ari shaffir
Let me soak this in oil before you eat it too.
joe rogan
It was...
I'm not bullshitting.
It was at least 18 inches long.
They were fucking huge.
They would cut them in half and each one of them, each half would look like a big sub.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
And they're like, this is too much.
This half is too much for me.
joe rogan
And I would eat the fuck out of that shit.
unidentified
God.
brian redban
It was like the leg of Esther.
That's pretty much what it was like.
ari shaffir
Whenever we order food at a restaurant, you go first, and then the waitress is like, all right, thank you, and she starts to leave, and you're like, no, no, no, no, that's just for me.
You're what my friends want.
joe rogan
After shows, man, I get famished.
I get famished after shows.
You know, you think about the energy that you put out when you're on stage, you know, just focusing and managing everything.
It's a lot of mental energy, physical energy, moving around.
It's a lot of energy.
You know, it's a big burn.
There's a lot going on.
You have to be in shape to do stand-up, to do it right.
I mean, you could do it if you were out of shape, but I guarantee you, you'd be better if you were in shape.
I mean, a guy like Ralphie, how much better would Ralphie may be if he weighed 180 pounds?
Jesus Christ.
I mean, his timing, the way his brain would work, the way his body would move, you know, it's amazing when I see a guy like Ralphie.
ari shaffir
He could definitely be a lot more physical.
joe rogan
Think about how many goddamn shows he does.
How much energy that is.
That's incredible what Ralph does.
ari shaffir
He said he dropped two pant sizes.
joe rogan
That's great.
unidentified
I'm a good pair.
joe rogan
Well, he had some serious health issues, right?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
He stopped smoking weed.
He said the doctor told him to stop smoking weed.
I don't know if he stopped eating it.
ari shaffir
No, he stopped eating it too.
unidentified
Really?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
He said the stuff in there.
joe rogan
Say goodbye to all that funny shit.
ari shaffir
He doesn't mind if you smoke around him.
But yeah, his immune system's all shot to hell.
joe rogan
Wow.
That's crazy.
Yeah, man.
He was...
Obviously, you cannot get that big.
Ralphie's...
If you don't know Ralphie May, he's probably about 500 pounds at least, right?
He's the sweetest guy in the world.
ari shaffir
He's so sweet.
I'm so worried about him.
unidentified
Does he sound the same?
joe rogan
We all worry about him.
Well, as he loses weight, his voice will change, for sure.
brian redban
He's going to start having a British accent.
ari shaffir
He'll sound royal.
brian redban
So, you still smoking the weed, Joe?
joe rogan
Yeah, I don't know what makes someone get that big.
unidentified
I would be out of my...
joe rogan
Out of school to talk about it.
I don't know if it's biological.
It seems to me that it's a very recent phenomenon in human history.
ari shaffir
Did it get that big?
joe rogan
Yeah.
I don't think people got that big a couple hundred years ago.
ari shaffir
I think Big J is losing weight now.
He got Patrice Dout.
Who's Big J? Big J Ockerson.
He's just a really funny New York comic.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
ari shaffir
He was like massive.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Oh, he's losing weight?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
After Patrice died, it's the same thing.
It's like, wake up calls, everybody.
joe rogan
Yeah, you know, it's very important.
It's very important to take care of your fucking body.
We're all going to go, man, but you don't need to go early.
You don't need to go because that's going to be a terrible feeling to go because you treated your vehicle like shit.
That's not what you should do.
ari shaffir
I did this benefit in D.C. for this comic who had a stroke but didn't have insurance.
And every third comic was like, yeah, this will be for me in six months.
But it's like, it will be!
You guys are all getting fatter!
Stop!
joe rogan
You know, this really brings up a really interesting point.
Because the ability when someone is fucked, when they're done, when you're paralyzed from the neck down, you can't move.
The ability to terminate their own life and to decide.
Some of them can blink and move a cursor and stuff, and they can write things like, I want to die, please kill me.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
There was a woman who wrote this article, and this woman's name is Allison Pearson.
She wrote this article about, do any of us, however ill, have the right to die?
And this was her argument.
Her argument was that you don't have the right.
It is one of the dumbest, fucking, most simpleton mouth diarrhea takes on the subject I've ever read.
It's not thoughtful.
It's silly.
It's silly.
ari shaffir
Of course you have the right to die.
It's your own...
Rights are given to us by others in order for us to live together, but it's like you can do whatever you want yourself.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, it's...
ari shaffir
The right?
What do you mean?
joe rogan
It's completely preposterous.
I mean, it's one of the dumbest arguments that anyone can ever make.
It's just a really poorly...
ari shaffir
So what'd she say?
What was she saying?
joe rogan
Well, she said that...
I didn't want to read it because it's horrible.
But the point is she contradicted herself because she had actually written another one, another article a couple years back where she was praising a woman for killing her daughter because her daughter had a fatal disease and she was just slowly suffering.
ari shaffir
So we have the right to kill others but not ourselves?
joe rogan
It's preposterous.
She also wrote a really dumb article.
ari shaffir
Who hired her?
joe rogan
She writes for some English newspaper.
brian redban
You think she's just ragging?
joe rogan
Well, maybe 24-7.
She writes for the Telegraph.
ari shaffir
Is there any chance you meant that as a double play on the word rag?
joe rogan
She writes for the Telegraph.
So here's my point.
So the other day I look on my website and there's a thread that says Women vs.
Doug Stanhope.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
So I go, oh, what the fuck did Doug do?
This could be great.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
By the way, Doug's latest CD is fucking fantastic.
If you haven't heard it, it's great.
You know what's great when you hear a guy, and I gotta be honest, his last one that he did in Norway, the Oslo one, it wasn't my favorite.
It wasn't my favorite out of his stuff, and I love Doug.
He's fucking awesome.
But this one, man, it's almost like he rebounded from that one.
Just like with renewed vigor and hate and just fucking attacked.
It's great.
It's so good.
Like there's some really fucking hard laughs in it.
Yeah, it's great.
It's one of my favorite stand-up comedy CDs in years.
It's my favorite.
I think it's my favorite of Doug's.
I think he just, whatever the fuck he did, whether, you know, he even talks about it.
He turned a corner as a person where he doesn't give a fuck anymore.
He's just trying to have fun.
He's not trying to change the world.
He thought he was going to try to change the world at one point.
ari shaffir
Yeah, now he finally realizes he's just one dude.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's just here to tell dick jokes.
And it's fucking great.
It's great.
And so I had, I tweeted about it.
And it's hard to follow everything the fuck that's going on on Twitter.
So I didn't see this women versus Doug Stanhope thing.
So I go to Stanhope.
Stanhope read what this woman had wrote.
And let me find the exact quote because it was pretty inflammatory.
Something about he...
I think he said that he hopes she gets a cyst.
unidentified
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Did he write this?
joe rogan
Yeah.
I mean, he's just really angry at this article.
And, you know, that's what Stan Hope does.
He gets fired up, and he wants to figure out some way to turn this rage into comedy.
So, what is his exact quote?
Shit, I can't find it.
I think he said that he wished a cyst on her ovaries or something like that.
ari shaffir
To see what you would do?
joe rogan
Yeah, I can't even find it.
He might have actually taken the first quote down.
ari shaffir
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Why, he caught a lot of flack for it?
joe rogan
I don't know.
That doesn't seem like him.
ari shaffir
So what was the thing?
Women against Doug Stanhope?
joe rogan
Yeah.
I can't find it.
ari shaffir
Was there backlash?
joe rogan
Well, this is what's crazy.
So Doug Stanhope calls her a cunt, and he said that she was fucking ridiculous in this shit article, and it's about something that is very near and dear to Doug, because that's what his mom had to do.
His mom had to take her own life.
unidentified
Oh, really?
ari shaffir
His mom did that from the man show?
joe rogan
Yes.
So for some smug asshole to come and just pass judgment like this and do it with such poor thinking...
It's really poorly written.
It reeks of a mediocre mind.
It reeks of someone who is just...
They're not capable of grasping how a lot of other people are going to see this.
They don't have enough perspective to tackle this complex issue.
It's insulting.
It's insultingly dumb.
And so Stanhope shit all over this lady.
So her response was to create this Women Against Doug Stanhope page on Facebook.
Awesome.
Yeah, it's also on Twitter.
Women vs.
Stanhope on Twitter and Women vs.
Stanhope on Facebook.
Wait, why women?
unidentified
Exactly!
ari shaffir
Isn't it a Right to Die show?
joe rogan
Exactly!
No, because he asked for a cyst.
unidentified
Oh.
joe rogan
Because he said, he called her a cunt and she said he hopes she gets a cyst.
brian redban
Can anyone join?
unidentified
I think he said a fetid ovarian cyst.
joe rogan
Yes, well that's the problem.
This is what I was going to say.
The problem is, the only people that joined Women vs.
Stanhope both on Twitter, me, and on Facebook, me.
ari shaffir
Are you the only ones that joined?
joe rogan
No, it's me and all the fucking Stanhope fans from the Rogan board.
And all the people who heard about this.
ari shaffir
So they all join?
joe rogan
Nobody's gonna fucking women versus stint.
Bitch, get the fuck out of here.
There's a few crazy hookers that are looking to get mad at any guy who says anything bad to any woman anywhere.
ari shaffir
I think some women just hear a quote, women against someone, she's like, oh, sure, I'll sign up for it.
joe rogan
Of course.
I read this one lady's take on it.
You know, misogynists like Stan Hope, like, what are you fucking talking about, dummy?
unidentified
What are you saying?
joe rogan
Yeah, he made a personal attack on her, but that's not the important part.
The important part is this nonsensical argument by a fucking dullard saying that really terminally ill people who are in horrible straits shouldn't be able to stop their time on this life.
That somehow or another, what, is there some grand plan that has to pay out?
Is there some pill that you know about that we don't?
Is there some new leaf that we're going to find on the Amazon that restores this 80-year-old guy who's paralyzed with a neck down?
Jesus fucking Christ, bitch.
You don't know what you're talking about.
You're talking nonsense.
You shouldn't be allowed to be in a position where you have an opinion that can be expressed and then can influence people.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You're too fucking stupid for that.
brian redban
Who does she work for?
joe rogan
She works for this fucking newspaper, man.
ari shaffir
This is why I try not to say bitch when I'm in an argument with a woman because I'm like, I don't want this to be about female or male at all.
I just want you to know that you're stupid.
So I try not to use gender-specific words.
joe rogan
Yeah, this is a...
It's just...
You don't have to be gender specific with this lady.
I haven't.
I don't think I have.
But unless I called her a bitch.
But the way I say that, I call that...
ari shaffir
I'm saying that's what happens when Doug uses a cut.
It's not his fault, but that's what they latch on to.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I use a bitch with my best friends.
I was like, bitch, you crazy?
I mean, I'm not saying she's a bitch as a woman.
ari shaffir
Yeah, but that's what they latch on to.
joe rogan
And you're like, why?
ari shaffir
That's not what we're even talking about.
joe rogan
Well, because they want to be able to say you hate women.
ari shaffir
Of course I do.
unidentified
Pfft.
Pfft.
ari shaffir
The worst.
joe rogan
Well, the women versus...
ari shaffir
I don't hate them, but as a whole, I just definitely look down on them.
joe rogan
You definitely look down on them?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, you know, what it is is...
ari shaffir
Like, I can't help it.
joe rogan
I look down on men, too.
There's a lot of men out there that are bitches.
I run into a lot of very unfortunate men out there in this world.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
And if I was a woman, I would be sad.
If I was a woman and I wanted to have a real man...
Good luck.
Good luck finding one of those fucking things.
ari shaffir
There's like a specific type of female drunk that I hate, but there's also a specific type of male drunk that I hate, too.
joe rogan
Dude, I would way rather be a guy than be a guy.
I think there's way more women that are cool than there are men that are cool.
There's too many douchebags out there that have some weird chip on their shoulder.
There's some weird need to prove themselves.
There's just too many aggressively cunty men.
I think there's a lot of cunty women, but I think there's way more cunty men.
There's just fucking people.
ari shaffir
There's a lot of guys that are just going like this.
Just beating their chest and trying to like...
And they're like, why?
Why?
Why are you fighting?
What are you doing?
Who wants this?
joe rogan
They never train.
If they just trained, they would never do that.
You know, you go with a bunch of guys who are like...
Jiu-jitsu guys go out.
They're like the nicest, most polite people ever.
You know?
ari shaffir
It can be easier.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's way easier.
ari shaffir
You know what I realized?
Sometimes I used to do this thing, I don't do it anymore, where it's like you're at a yellow light and you try to pause far enough so the car behind you misses the light and you get to go through it.
But I'm like, the amount of energy it takes to do that would be equal to the amount of energy to speed up and get the guy in behind you.
The game works either way.
You're trying to accomplish something.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's a total cunt move, dude.
unidentified
It's like you can be nice and still have the fun of the game.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah, I think it's...
ari shaffir
I think people just get locked into a wave.
joe rogan
It's absolutely people get locked into a wave thing.
And you can also get locked into frustration.
Some of the most aggressive people I've met were the most unsuccessful.
The most frustrated.
The reason why they were just like constantly involved in conflict.
It's because they were dealing with a lot of internal conflict and no confirmation of anything good.
No confirmation of goodness from their life.
There's no confirmation of them being worth something.
They were always getting dumped in relationships or in the middle of fighting with their boss.
ari shaffir
They just shit on everything.
joe rogan
Yeah, there was always conflict.
And when you're in that situation, that constant state of That's your norm?
Of unease, yeah.
ari shaffir
That becomes your baseline?
joe rogan
Yeah, it's fucking, it's the worst.
It's the worst to be around.
Yeah, it's the worst to be around.
But the reality is, you and I have it far easier than the average person.
There was a threat on the underground.
ari shaffir
Yeah, but I think the average person isn't like that.
I think that's a lot of people, but I think the average person's cool.
joe rogan
You're absolutely right.
But I'm saying, the average person is under a lot more stress.
It seems like stand-up comics would be under a lot of stress, and we sort of are, but it's kind of a different stress.
ari shaffir
The world's under zero stress.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah.
There was a thread on the underground talking about Sunday nights.
And the guy's like, man, fucking Sunday night.
Some dude just reached out.
He goes, Sunday nights are depressing.
Do you guys find Sunday depressing?
And fucking everybody's like, yes, I hate Sunday nights.
I hate going back to work.
It makes me sick.
And I'm sitting here.
And I'm dreading.
I'm dreading that I've got to go to work in the morning.
And I'm like, wow.
That's when you really realize how...
Stupid lucky we are.
Just stupid lucky to be stand-up comedian.
I've been stupid lucky across the board.
Even Fear Factor, I never woke up and was really mad that I had to go and make retarded amounts of money to do that.
It wasn't my favorite thing to do, but I was never mad at it.
But to do stand-up or anything like that or work for the UFC, it doesn't even feel like a job.
It's something you actually look forward to.
ari shaffir
I try to do sometimes when I'm tired and I don't want to go to some awesome gig or get on the plane to go to some great place.
I'm like, I have it worse than Ethiopia.
Just like, put it out how ridiculous it is.
Like, relax, dude.
You can complain, but keep it set.
joe rogan
Say it out loud.
You should put that on your wall.
I have it worse than Ethiopia.
It'll like force you to just not be a bitch.
ari shaffir
This ice cream is melty.
I have it worse than Ethiopia.
It's like, let me complain, but obviously I'm fine.
joe rogan
It's super easy to get into a shit mindset.
The bottom line is that life is a struggle.
It's a constant struggle.
And doing anything is a struggle.
Like we were talking about writing new material.
We're both doing that right now.
You go up and sometimes it just eats dick.
It's not working.
ari shaffir
It's hard.
joe rogan
Sometimes you don't know where you're going with something because it's a new bit and you try to say it one way and now you try it another way but then it sort of diffuses the second part of it and then you gotta listen to it and go over it and maybe rewrite it.
It's a weird process.
ari shaffir
Sometimes you're like, okay, this section just needs work and then the next time you're like, it still needs work and the next time you're like, damn it!
Nothing's coming!
joe rogan
Bits just show up done.
ari shaffir
Oh yeah.
joe rogan
You know?
Sometimes, like, you get an idea, and I have gotten an idea on the way to a show, and then got to the show, and then, boom, the bit was done.
And it kills like an old bit.
You know, one of my bits from my...
ari shaffir
The Facebook thing, the first time you said it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Which Facebook thing?
Wait a minute.
unidentified
I don't want to ruin one of your jokes, you're a special.
ari shaffir
if this is the premise if they have Facebook in like the 1800s oh yeah yeah yeah yeah That came out immediately.
Yeah, that was that night.
It was some big theater.
I forget where.
joe rogan
Yeah, sometimes it was really funny.
That's a tag, though.
That was sort of easy because the big premise had already been set.
ari shaffir
Oh, right.
You're saying the whole thing.
joe rogan
Yeah.
But it's weird, man.
The process is so weird, the process of creating new stuff.
But it's so exciting, too.
It just gets you real stimulated.
That's my favorite time because it's the most unsteady time.
You're going out there with all these fucking weak-ass weapons.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's like you're playing...
It's like you become a bad motherfucker at StarCraft or World of Warcraft.
ari shaffir
It's your first time getting to Mike Tyson in Punch Out.
You're like, what the fuck?
He just knocks you out in two shots.
joe rogan
You quit and then you start all over again with a new account.
ari shaffir
Yeah, that's a better example.
And you're like, what?
joe rogan
Yeah, you're a noob with shit jokes.
ari shaffir
We played...
That thing me and Renazisi did.
We got to play Tiger Woods Golf with Tiger Woods.
joe rogan
Right, right.
ari shaffir
And he drove it off the tee once and he went into this creek.
He's like, I couldn't clear the creek?
It was like 140 yards.
I'm like, yeah, welcome to regular people golf, Tiger.
Yeah, I'm just mumbling.
I was like, that's how regular people do it.
joe rogan
You powered through that one, though.
ari shaffir
I tried, and then I got stuck in like a rut right there.
joe rogan
And a skip.
That's the worst feeling when you're on stage in the middle of a fucking perfect joke.
ari shaffir
And you're like, come on, body.
unidentified
Stop it.
joe rogan
And your body just hiccups on a word.
Oh, God.
ari shaffir
Damn, I'm ruining this whole moment.
joe rogan
I almost did that this week, and I paused myself, and it actually made the joke better.
ari shaffir
Oh, really?
joe rogan
I almost fucked up.
I had an almost fuck up where a word was...
I felt it come out twisted.
I'm like, why is my tongue this shape?
I paused an extra second, then I paused an extra second after the word, after I got it correct.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
And it was like a better pause.
unidentified
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Sometimes you chance by yourself on accident, right?
Yeah.
And you're like, oh.
joe rogan
I realize, I'm like, oh yeah, that gives you more time.
I am saying something kind of crazy right there.
Maybe it's better to contemplate it for a moment before you hear the second step.
Sometimes stand-up is just...
ari shaffir
Technical.
joe rogan
Yeah, and you're doing it in front of different people.
That's the only art form that I know of where you literally need them to practice it in front of.
I don't know.
I know some of the stuff that's funny.
You know, when I write it, I know some of the stuff that's going to kill.
But some of the stuff, every now and then, there's some shit that you didn't even think was funny.
unidentified
You thought it was like a throwaway, and it washes.
joe rogan
It could be like the biggest throwaway to you, and that's like the biggest laugh of the joke.
ari shaffir
I find a lot of times that I'll do certain jokes that I really enjoy that may or may not get as big a laugh.
But I'll do the jokes that get a humongous laugh that I'm like, yeah, I like it.
But it's not my favorite.
But you guys seem to like it.
So I'll keep that in there so you listen to these ones that I want to say.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's like a tool.
There's no substitute for fucking doing it on stage in front of people.
There's no way around it.
That's why I used to hear about Bill Cosby.
That Bill Cosby would just write his whole routine and then just go on The Tonight Show.
ari shaffir
And just do it.
joe rogan
Yeah, he just did it.
He would say he just knows what funny is.
ari shaffir
Certain people, I guess, go differently.
joe rogan
I would like to see that dude.
If he's in town, you want to see him with me?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
I totally would.
joe rogan
I bet he comes to town like once a year.
ari shaffir
My first time in Montreal, I had to leave the day before he was there and I was really upset.
Yeah, I'd like to see him do stand-up.
joe rogan
Because it's hard when you hear a lot of the veteran comics talk about him because he's reached this deity status.
ari shaffir
You can't say anything wrong.
joe rogan
They're not honest.
Because I remember the one time, obviously George Carlin's one of all-time greats.
There's no doubt about it.
He's one of the greatest comedians that's ever lived.
But there was a time where he was coming to the comedy store and he was working on some new stuff and it was not good.
ari shaffir
Yeah, his last or second or maybe third or last special.
But yeah, it was like, meh.
joe rogan
It wasn't good.
ari shaffir
There was one good bit in there of the hour.
joe rogan
And we all kind of sat around and no one wanted to say anything.
No.
Yeah, and maybe you and I got together and we were like, yes, it wasn't good.
ari shaffir
In private.
joe rogan
It wasn't good, yeah.
But meanwhile, he's fucking one of the greatest of all time.
ari shaffir
Yeah, you have to say, I'm not taking anything away from his overall achievements.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, no, it was that moment.
And really, the reason was, there's a reason for it.
It wasn't that he wasn't a good comic anymore.
It's that he had an incredible workload.
And he did the Louis C.K. thing, where he was the originator of it.
He would come up with a completely new act every year.
ari shaffir
He would do like a dozen or two dozen specials, right?
It's incredible.
joe rogan
And he was in his 60s, right?
ari shaffir
It was in his 60s, maybe even older.
joe rogan
Yeah, and he's writing a whole new special and performing it every year.
ari shaffir
He gave me 20 bucks.
I went to the deli for him.
unidentified
Really?
ari shaffir
They sent me to the deli for him and he gave me 20 bucks.
I was like, oh, it's on the house.
He goes, yeah, I know.
Yeah, it's for you.
And I was like, thank you so much.
joe rogan
Yeah, you got 20 bucks for George Carlin.
You should have framed that shit.
ari shaffir
Yeah, and I think I needed to eat.
joe rogan
I mean, that's so courageous, too, that he would do that.
That he would go out there.
ari shaffir
Tip it you 20 bucks?
joe rogan
No.
unidentified
I know.
joe rogan
Try out all the new shit and bomb.
When he could just pull out, you know, hours of classics and just crush.
ari shaffir
He said that before we used to work out.
He would be like, I'm not doing the old stuff.
Don't ask for it.
I'm not going to do it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
Here we go.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's how we had to do it.
It's amazing.
It's amazing, really.
ari shaffir
It's hard to put yourself in that position, but if you do it enough, practice enough, probably just the same thing as working out, you get to a place of happier that you didn't just rely on the old material, and you actually just went through the new stuff.
joe rogan
Yeah, but it's also, Gaffigan and I talked about this, and one of the things that he said was that you've got to have both.
He goes, it's really important to me to be really good, to have a good show.
These people are paying a lot of money.
I can't just work out in front of them.
And I was like, you're right.
I feel the same way.
I sandwich new jokes in between already known killers.
ari shaffir
That's why I love workout sets.
At the store or New York or anywhere.
It's just like, this is just, you know, it's a fucking Tuesday night.
No one's here to see anybody specific.
joe rogan
Don't you feel like that, you know, you gotta get the audience's sort of respect before you start doing new shit?
I feel like...
ari shaffir
Here's what I'll do.
I know what you mean.
It's like you want to do an opener that's going to hit up right away.
joe rogan
Opener that works for sure.
ari shaffir
I'll find a new one.
I'll find a new one for this year.
By not having one, that'll make me find a new one.
joe rogan
That's a good way to look at it.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
By not having a closer, that'll force me to get a closer.
But if I do my whatever ending and then I'm like, let me hit you with some great bit I know works, then I'll leave with that feeling of like...
I need something better there.
joe rogan
Do you get bummed out if people send you, like, shitty messages about your show on Twitter?
ari shaffir
No.
joe rogan
They thought you sucked?
unidentified
Uh-uh.
ari shaffir
Because rarely is it super bad.
I'm trying my best with whatever that new material is.
unidentified
Right.
ari shaffir
And then it gets better and better, so the more and more of it goes well.
joe rogan
Right.
ari shaffir
Maybe then eventually all you need is just that closer.
But the first ten is great, you know, and then it becomes like so-so.
joe rogan
Yeah, we've got to do some things, man.
Let's go to Alaska or something like that.
We've got to do some shit.
ari shaffir
I told your manager.
I already told him.
I said, he's going to forget again.
So just look into it.
I'm telling you.
Just look into it.
The longest day of the year, Shroom Fress is July 21st through the 23rd.
joe rogan
Oh.
Can you get shrooms in Alaska?
ari shaffir
Fuck, of course you can, right?
joe rogan
That's the way he says that.
Of course you can.
ari shaffir
There's no way that can't be true.
unidentified
This is the guy who got arrested at the Mall of America.
What you mean to say is, this is the guy who got let off by the cops of Mall of America!
joe rogan
That's one way of putting it.
That's one way of putting it.
But you did get...
I can't remember the last time the cops came at Mall of America to talk to me.
unidentified
Yeah.
ari shaffir
I'm walking the line, by the way.
brian redban
Did you ride the roller coaster at the Mall of America?
ari shaffir
No, I didn't.
It looks janky and old.
It's like everything's from like 20 years ago.
joe rogan
It's inside?
The inside roller coaster?
ari shaffir
They have a water ride too.
joe rogan
How big is the Mall of America?
brian redban
It's the biggest mall.
ari shaffir
Edmonton Mall in America.
Edmonton Mall is bigger.
joe rogan
In Canada?
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
Wow.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's the biggest mall in the world?
ari shaffir
I think so.
It's all by the same people, though.
joe rogan
How does Dubai, how do they tolerate the fact that we have the biggest mall?
They must be going crazy.
brian redban
Is there really people driving around with lions in their cars in Dubai?
unidentified
Lions?
brian redban
Have you seen those photos of just like Mercedes driving by with a big lion arm hanging out of the side?
joe rogan
No, I haven't seen it.
There's a new show called The Shas of Sunset.
It's all Iranians.
ari shaffir
It's all the Persians that are here?
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Okay, can I just say this?
You can disagree with me if you want.
I don't care.
You can put this on the record.
They're the worst of the whites.
joe rogan
Whoa.
ari shaffir
Persians and Remedians.
joe rogan
You are the Jewiest Jew of all time.
The way you said it.
ari shaffir
The worst.
joe rogan
The worst of the whites.
ari shaffir
Of all the whites.
unidentified
By far.
joe rogan
The way you said that, though.
You so, like, made a Jew-y face.
You just got into it.
unidentified
I'm becoming an old man.
joe rogan
Yes!
unidentified
Yes!
ari shaffir
I'm becoming an old man set in his ways.
joe rogan
I worry about that, man.
I say something.
Like, someone will say something.
I'm like, what?
What are you saying?
I'm like, oh my god, I'm an old guinea.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Listen to me.
I'm some fucking...
I'm some old guinea.
ari shaffir
Becoming what I was supposed to become.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
They're the worst of the whites!
I'll tell you, they're the worst of the whites!
They were fine.
They were having a good time.
I mean, they seemed like they were enthusiastic people.
unidentified
Oh, the show?
joe rogan
Yeah, the show.
ari shaffir
They're driving their dad's daddy-lacks.
joe rogan
Listen, the fucking people.
ari shaffir
Working some store that was handed down to them.
joe rogan
Listen, I am all for anybody coming from somewhere that sucks like Iran and coming to America.
And guess what?
They're going to have some fucking growing pains.
They're going to have to...
It's a completely suppressed culture.
ari shaffir
It's the ones that act overly that way.
Most people are fine.
joe rogan
They're fucking balling for the first time ever in like, you know, six generations.
You know what I mean?
Think about that.
They've come to America over the last...
I mean, look, the whole hostage crisis shit happened in the Carter administration, and then they stopped calling themselves Iranians.
Because I had an Iranian girlfriend when I was young.
ari shaffir
She was Iranian then?
joe rogan
She was Iranian.
ari shaffir
And then they changed it to Persian?
joe rogan
And then they changed it to Persian.
unidentified
Why?
ari shaffir
Because they got a bad rap?
joe rogan
Fucking nobody wanted to have anything to do with Iran, man.
You don't know what it was like.
At that point, when she was my girlfriend, this was my first girlfriend ever, I was like 11 years old, and she was this girl across the street, and her fucking mother, the mother was Iranian.
She was half Iranian and half American, and the mother tried to stab the father with a knife while I was there.
The cops got there.
It was really crazy.
It was a crazy little situation.
She was a really nice girl, but they were in deep turmoil.
Her family was in deep turmoil.
unidentified
Really?
ari shaffir
Trying to get out?
joe rogan
No, no.
I mean, like, the mother tried to kill the fucking father with a knife.
ari shaffir
What?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah.
They got arrested while we were there.
It was really crazy.
But my point was, like, I got to see, like, you know, what it's like in their eyes to have escaped Iran.
You know, and Iran was, you know, it's a fucking dictatorship.
I don't give a shit what anybody says.
All those votings, that's nonsense over there.
There's a reason why everybody erupted and went fucking crazy after the last election.
There's no real democracy going on in Iran.
ari shaffir
Yeah, that's great.
joe rogan
Nothing anytime soon.
ari shaffir
But, no, no, there's none.
joe rogan
It's a scary place.
ari shaffir
But that doesn't excuse your behavior when you come into a comedy club late at night and say, I don't buy this place.
joe rogan
Yeah, you know what it is, man?
They're just like the Guineas of the fucking 1930s.
It's the same thing.
ari shaffir
Those are the second worst of the whites.
joe rogan
Listen, that's my people.
I'm a Jersey Guinea.
I was born in Newark, New Jersey, man.
That's the whole environment.
They're escaping something that sucks bad.
You know, and so it takes them a while to assimilate to the greatest culture the world has ever known.
Hello.
Welcome to California.
unidentified
Hey!
ari shaffir
Welcome to California, bitch!
There's one time these, like, five Persian guys came into the store later night.
I was sitting in the back row there, and Renizzisi's working the cover booth.
He was smoking a cigarette in the back row.
It was, like, 1.30 in the morning.
The, uh, Jim Painter, the door guy, was on stage.
And these guys come in, smoking a cigarette, and we're like, hey, guys, you can't, uh...
Or Steve said, guys, it's a $20 cover.
And they're like, oh, okay.
And they sat there for a minute and he goes, guys, it's a $20 cover and you can't smoke in here.
You've got to go out.
And they kind of gave this look of like, all right.
And they walked towards the steps, waited there for like two minutes.
And I just go, get the fuck out, you filthy Persians.
joe rogan
Oh!
ari shaffir
And they just started rushing at me.
Steve is holding back their kicks.
They were trying to spit at me a kick.
I'm trying to be cool and just sit there and their kicks were just missing me.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
ari shaffir
I was so mad at them.
unidentified
I was like, get the fuck.
ari shaffir
You're so rich.
You've done nothing.
You're all 19. Get the fuck out of here.
joe rogan
So where are they getting their money from?
ari shaffir
Dad!
joe rogan
What does dad do?
ari shaffir
Worked hard because he overcame that shit you were talking about.
All they did was inherit them.
joe rogan
There's a big problem with really rich kids...
A lot of parents of rich kids are not taking care of those kids very well.
ari shaffir
Don't let your children wear black on black.
joe rogan
They're working a lot, too.
Don't let them wear black on black.
ari shaffir
Yeah, it's like, you're a douche.
joe rogan
Stop.
Listen, look at your sweater.
ari shaffir
Oh, yeah.
unidentified
No, this is cool.
How dare you?
joe rogan
You have the gay flag.
You have the sweater.
unidentified
Yeah.
brian redban
Are you sitting on some picture pages?
joe rogan
How could you possibly sit?
unidentified
Picture pages.
joe rogan
How could you possibly tell them what colors to wear?
unidentified
They're the worst.
ari shaffir
They're the worst.
joe rogan
What colors to wear, though?
What?
ari shaffir
It's awful.
joe rogan
They can't wear black on black?
ari shaffir
No, with three buttons undone.
joe rogan
What if they're really nice people and they wear black on black?
ari shaffir
They would never act like that!
unidentified
They would never!
brian redban
My day!
joe rogan
You waited for your wife to yell at you in the background, Ari, keep it down!
unidentified
You shut up in mind!
ari shaffir
Dad would never tolerate this!
joe rogan
The neighbors can hear!
unidentified
You're going off and you're offensive!
joe rogan
Ari!
Oh my god, dude.
You're so hilarious.
ari shaffir
I just visited my parents, man.
joe rogan
Maybe if you were a Persian, you could get away with saying that.
ari shaffir
No, why?
joe rogan
Right now they're going to have some Persians mad at you.
They're going to come to your show.
ari shaffir
Be less Persian-y!
That's all I ask.
It's only the ones.
You know what I'm talking about.
joe rogan
I do, because, again, in your defense, I'm a guinea.
I'm mostly Italian, and I don't like most Italians.
There's a lot of them I like.
ari shaffir
Oh, you're Italian?
Oh, you're Persian?
No, you're fine.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's a lot of them I like, but there's just this giant clock.
I wouldn't even say it's most I don't like.
I would say it's 30% I don't like.
ari shaffir
Yeah, it's like the militant Palestinians.
joe rogan
It's just 30% douchebags.
ari shaffir
Yeah, they ruin it for everyone.
That's all you think of.
joe rogan
Yeah, exactly.
And all these goddamn mob movies have just pumped those fuckheads up, those really dumb fuckheads.
ari shaffir
Entitles them.
Do you know who I am?
I'll come back there.
joe rogan
I know people.
ari shaffir
Kill yourself.
joe rogan
I know people.
unidentified
What?
ari shaffir
That's horrible.
brian redban
We stop it.
ari shaffir
Give me another line.
Let's do this.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I wonder how much, you know, they say that the big mob in this country is the Soviet mob and that they know how to keep their mouth shut.
brian redban
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Cause attention to their criminal behavior.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
They don't walk around with fucking giant diamond rings on and they're like very sophisticated in their forms of organized crime.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
They're the most dangerous because they're like the computer dudes.
ari shaffir
Oh yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And they're ruthless.
Like, you know, that's a cold world, man.
You know, those people went through a lot of shit that we can't even, you know, begin to fathom.
ari shaffir
Those are those guys that are like, get my pinky off.
I won't even blink.
unidentified
Yeah.
Ouch.
joe rogan
When we were in Japan, I didn't see any pinkies cut off.
Did you?
brian redban
No, everyone wore black.
joe rogan
A lot of wearing black.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Would you yell at the Japanese?
No black on black?
ari shaffir
Wait, black on black wearing black pants and a black shirt?
brian redban
Everybody fucking wore black.
ari shaffir
No, no, no.
joe rogan
I swear to God.
ari shaffir
Black pants on a black shirt.
joe rogan
That's what I wear when I'm in the UFC. What is wrong with that?
ari shaffir
First of all, if you wore it out, yeah, it's a little douchey.
joe rogan
Really?
unidentified
Black on black?
joe rogan
You know, my friend Bud, that's all he wears.
ari shaffir
Black on black?
joe rogan
His whole fucking wardrobe is black clothes.
ari shaffir
Like a black button down?
joe rogan
He has black jeans, bro.
ari shaffir
It's okay for a black t-shirt and black jeans.
joe rogan
I'm telling you, black sneakers.
This motherfucker has black everything.
He has a black car.
His whole thing is that he only wears black.
ari shaffir
Okay, I want you to tell Bud something.
If he does that, because I know what he's going for.
This is alright.
If he splashes a little bit of color in there, it'll really pop.
Some colorful shoes or some socks.
brian redban
Ari, you would never get your car murdered?
ari shaffir
Get my car murdered?
brian redban
Yeah.
ari shaffir
What do you mean?
brian redban
Like all blacked out?
joe rogan
Murdered is matte black.
ari shaffir
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
That cool color.
unidentified
I like that, man.
ari shaffir
Russell has that.
He has matte gray.
joe rogan
Really?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's badass.
brian redban
I like it.
joe rogan
I would like that.
Maybe I should do my car on my GT3. Yeah.
brian redban
Fucking murdered bitch.
unidentified
Fuck that.
ari shaffir
Paint your house that way.
joe rogan
Like Marilyn Marilyn's house.
brian redban
Damn, are you rolling dirty over there?
ari shaffir
What are you talking about?
joe rogan
What's that mean?
ari shaffir
Oh, that's what they would say about your house?
And you'd be like, yeah, we're rolling dirty over there.
What do you think?
You think we're not rolling dirty?
joe rogan
It's weird, though.
Not shiny is in now.
People got tired of shiny.
brian redban
Shiny's gross.
That's why I don't wash my car.
unidentified
Really?
ari shaffir
No.
joe rogan
I like shiny.
I like shiny.
You know what?
There's certain cars that look like spaceships to me when they're shiny.
I saw a Ferrari yesterday.
It was one of these new 458 Italias.
They look like...
It's like something from Battlestar Galactica.
It's got these crazy lights down the side.
It's like $300,000.
ari shaffir
That's about the right amount to spend on a car.
joe rogan
It's a house.
It's transportation.
But it's not, dude.
It's not.
It's a goddamn ride everywhere you go.
It's a wild, screaming ride that makes the most marvelous noise ever.
Those Italians, they have this fucking giant engine.
ari shaffir
Yeah, that's the good part of Italians.
joe rogan
And it's like, yeah, but I'm sure it breaks down like crazy.
My people are not to be trusted with meticulous details of things.
They're not good at that.
They're good at the passion.
They're good at the crazy thing and impulsive stuff.
But it has this noise.
It drove by me.
It's like...
unidentified
It's like this wild animal noise, man.
joe rogan
It's just such a beautiful, passionate noise.
But $300,000.
And it looks like a spaceship.
You know, like the cars they're coming out with today, they're slowly starting to look like what we thought cars would look like in the future.
You know, for a while, they'd be like, you know, like Ford Festiva.
What the fuck is this?
This is not space.
This is not interesting.
This is just some shitty looking box that you've created.
You know, the older cars and older Toyotas and Chevys.
ari shaffir
Yeah, they're bad.
Those Mustangs for a while.
joe rogan
A lot of terrible shapes, man.
But now, they're finally figuring out a way to, like, make cars look like they should look in the future.
ari shaffir
Everything except hybrids.
joe rogan
Yeah, they still look like shit.
Except those Fiskars.
Have you seen the Fiskars?
Fiskars, I believe it's a Dutch company, and they've created the first, I think they're electric.
I think one of them may be a hybrid and one of them is fully electric, but they're really cool shapes.
They're really wild looking.
They have a sports car version of it, and they have a big badass sedan version.
It looks almost like a Maserati.
ari shaffir
I'm just waiting until they get up to about 300 or 400 miles per hour range.
Once I get that.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're not quite there yet.
Well, the real issue with them is, with these electric cars, is conflict minerals.
The real issue is there's only a limited amount.
Well, lithium ion is what you need to make those batteries.
And there's not a lot of that shit around.
And you've got to get it from places where people work for slavery.
ari shaffir
Oh, really?
joe rogan
Yeah, most of it's coming from the Congo.
ari shaffir
Isn't that what's in batteries?
In regular batteries?
joe rogan
Lithium-ion, yeah.
And laptops, everything.
Conflict minerals are one of the biggest crises.
ari shaffir
Conflict minerals.
Rechargeable?
joe rogan
No, the idea is they come from Afghanistan, they come from the Congo.
ari shaffir
Oh, from conflict places.
joe rogan
Yeah, exactly.
ari shaffir
Like blood diamonds.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, what people don't realize, you know, when you think about, like, you think about a laptop.
There's a chain of things that has to happen and be put in place in order to create this laptop.
And at the very end of the chain, this is going to be crazy.
It's going to be hard for you to wrap your head around.
But at the very end of the chain, the very end is a kid in Africa sticking a metal rod into the ground and chipping away rocks.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, literally.
They're mining.
ari shaffir
Really?
joe rogan
Like, that's what they're doing, yeah.
They're little kids.
ari shaffir
That's lithium-ion?
joe rogan
Mm-hmm.
It's Coltrane for cell phones.
ari shaffir
Oh, that's so sad to think about.
And we all just say we'll put up with that?
joe rogan
Well, no.
ari shaffir
Because we want our stuff.
joe rogan
People are trying to do things about that, but first of all, going to the Congo is very...
Very fucking dangerous.
Nobody wants to do that.
And, you know, you want to go into Afghanistan?
Jesus Christ, that's fucking dangerous too.
So it's like, you only have so many different ways of dealing with the situation.
And obviously someone's in control over these minerals.
I don't know what companies they are specifically, but I know those companies must be making an ungodly amount of money.
They estimated that there's more than $1 trillion in unfound minerals in Afghanistan that they've discovered.
ari shaffir
What?
joe rogan
Yeah, over a trillion in the mountains.
So they've known about this.
ari shaffir
So they're just going to chip away at the mountains until it's all sold?
joe rogan
I don't know.
Once they start extracting it, then it becomes a big issue of who's getting this money?
Who's in control of this situation?
Who's in control of this piece of land?
unidentified
We are, right?
joe rogan
It's a huge...
Not really, no.
I mean, it's a huge factor in...
The reason why we're over there in Afghanistan in the first place, economically, that place is worth...
If the future is in technology, and we're pretty sure it is, it's not like technology is going to stop.
It's not like we're going to stop evolving it.
We're going to need minerals.
We're going to need these conflict minerals.
ari shaffir
I haven't even considered that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's a big issue.
ari shaffir
What do you think of that guy who shot up all those people in Afghanistan?
joe rogan
Well, that guy, I read a whole story about him.
If you don't know who he is, he killed, I think it was 14 people?
ari shaffir
Maybe 16, 9 of them were children.
joe rogan
9 of them were children.
ari shaffir
Went into their homes.
joe rogan
Yeah, went into their homes and just gunned them down.
ari shaffir
He was a U.S. soldier.
joe rogan
He was a soldier, and he was a soldier that quit his job in 2001 and signed up for the Army after September 11th.
ari shaffir
Really?
And they've still kept him in?
Didn't he not want to go on this last tour?
joe rogan
Exactly.
Did it for all the right reasons.
Did it because he wanted to protect his country and defend his country.
And thought, you know, this is my time to step up and contribute to America.
And by all accounts for the longest time was like the greatest guy was the life of the party but he started after his first couple tours he went to Iraq he'd been shot in Iraq and then he did not want to go to Afghanistan thought he was gonna get a promotion and he started thought he was gonna get a better job back home be able to come back home And he was denied that.
ari shaffir
Yeah, he knew that for his family or whatever.
joe rogan
And his family is back home.
He has two kids.
And his house, apparently, they had to put it up for sale.
And the people that went to look at his house was in complete disarray.
He was becoming an alcoholic.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Listen, man.
The fucking pressure of what these guys go through.
To ask anyone to do it ever is crazy.
To ask anyone to repeatedly do it over and over again when they don't want to do it anymore is nuts.
I mean, this guy was, up until a certain point in time, a hero.
And then he became a monster.
ari shaffir
Yeah, the weird thing is people are sort of like seeing this.
Like, what are we doing to these guys?
And it almost seems as if we're like apologizing for his behavior.
And it's like, no, what he did was completely wrong and horrible.
But let's also examine what puts a guy in this position.
Just like a little bit.
joe rogan
You're totally right.
It's so complex.
ari shaffir
I don't murder kids.
You're a piece of shit, you should die.
joe rogan
He became a piece of shit and he should die.
But how did he become a piece of shit?
ari shaffir
Yeah, we did that.
We trained at a talk dog.
joe rogan
It's horrible that that guy became a piece of shit.
It's horrible that he was forced into this terrible, terrible, unspeakable, unthinkable situation where he was seeing people die.
He watched a good friend get his leg blown off that day.
ari shaffir
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, he had watched the guy get his leg blown off that day and then went drunk and went on a rampage.
That's when he lost his shit.
He, you know, the guy was in trouble, you know, and what they're saying is, had they not recognized this, I think because everybody's in trouble over there!
They're all in war!
ari shaffir
Suicides are up there, though.
Like 80%?
joe rogan
It's crazy.
More soldiers have died at one point in time.
I don't know if it's still the case, but more soldiers had died from suicide than had died from combat.
ari shaffir
Over there?
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
No way.
joe rogan
It was at one point in time it was.
Suicides in...
It was at least in Afghanistan it was.
ari shaffir
No, that can't be true.
joe rogan
Yeah, it sounds like it wouldn't be, right?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
I better not have made that up.
So what about, how do I put phrases?
Suicides, soldiers.
ari shaffir
Total suicides, conflict, Gulf War, Meta, death squad.
unidentified
Oh, garden.
joe rogan
Butthole.
Casualties are...
ari shaffir
No way.
That would shock me.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I'll have to find out.
Suicide claims more US military lives than Afghan war.
Yep.
ari shaffir
Suicide claims...
Yep.
joe rogan
They've killed more soldiers.
American military personnel are continuing to take their own lives in unprecedented numbers.
As the war in Afghanistan and Iraq drag on, by as late November, at least 334 members of the armed forces had committed suicide in 2009, and more than 319 who were also killed in Afghanistan, or more than the 319 who were killed in Afghanistan, or the 150 who died in Iraq.
ari shaffir
Wow.
joe rogan
2009. Yeah, but it doesn't matter.
That was at one point in time.
ari shaffir
This is 2010. More had died.
joe rogan
More had died by suicide.
More soldiers killed themselves than were killed in combat.
Yes.
ari shaffir
Okay, wow.
joe rogan
Two years in a row.
ari shaffir
But that includes like American soldiers and stuff?
Like still over here?
joe rogan
It's all American soldiers.
ari shaffir
No, I'm saying still people over here?
Or is that all people over there that were committing suicide?
unidentified
You know what I mean?
brian redban
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Is it soldiers stationed in Hawaii?
brian redban
Soldiers period.
joe rogan
It just says American military personnel.
brian redban
That might be...
ari shaffir
It's still a lot.
unidentified
I think it's most of them that are over there, man.
joe rogan
I think a lot of them have the same problems when they come back here, too.
ari shaffir
Yeah, it's got to be most of them there.
Or have done time over there, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, the traumatic stress disorder.
ari shaffir
That's so many.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I mean, I was hoping I didn't make it up.
ari shaffir
Whoa.
That's crazy.
joe rogan
Wow.
Listen to this.
Before 2001, the Army rarely suffered 10 suicides per 100,000 soldiers.
Now the Army suicide rate is 20 per 100,000.
It's higher than the registered among males 19 to 29, gender age bracket, the highest rate among the general population.
Wow.
So, look, man.
It's obviously...
It's fucking terrible over there.
And why?
Why is it terrible over there?
Oh, there you go, man.
Talking about shit you don't know.
unidentified
While this fucking country is the baddest country in the world.
ari shaffir
I don't know.
joe rogan
I don't know.
unidentified
I just know what I read.
ari shaffir
Yeah, I don't know.
I'm asking.
joe rogan
I know what I read.
ari shaffir
So, what's the problem?
joe rogan
What I read is someone is doing something really bad.
ari shaffir
Did you watch the firefight?
joe rogan
Did you see the video of the first person shooter helmet cam firefight?
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
Dude, pull that up.
It's crazy.
Really?
Yeah, helmet cam firefight.
They have a video of a dude in Afghanistan.
Oh, and by the way, I got a message from a guy on Twitter saying that him and his boys who are over there in the military in Afghanistan listen to the show all the time.
So I want to say, if you're over there, man, stay safe and get the fuck out of there.
Don't kill yourself.
Get the fuck out of there as quickly as you can.
And, you know, Godspeed.
And if you do get home and you got some shit fucking with you, apparently they've been doing a lot of studies on post-traumatic stress disorder and MDMA. So look into that.
Look into, if you have post-traumatic stress disorder, there's a lot of studies now that are suggesting that you can get over it much more effectively with MDMA. Really?
Which is ecstasy.
I mean, ecstasy is the street name for it.
Yeah, there's a lot of people that are taking ecstasy and they're administering it to soldiers coming back for therapy.
ari shaffir
Wow.
joe rogan
Well, you know, it gives you such a loving feeling that you can abandon all these terrible feelings of war.
ari shaffir
Well, definitely, if it was like, if you're having those feelings, like, seek a therapist.
unidentified
Yes.
ari shaffir
Because your mind is sort of messed up a little, so you're not thinking straight.
joe rogan
Absolutely.
ari shaffir
So those thoughts you get of, like, let me just do this.
joe rogan
Yeah, and you've got to be real careful about traumatic brain injuries.
Another thing that happened to this guy, he had a traumatic brain injury, a truck accident, a truck flipped, and he had a significant enough injury that they called it a traumatic brain injury.
I don't know the extent of it, but I do know from dealing with fighters...
ari shaffir
And he committed suicide?
joe rogan
No, this is the guy that killed everybody.
ari shaffir
Oh, that guy.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Okay.
joe rogan
It fucks with your judgment.
Unquestionably, it fucks with your judgment.
And your ability can be, in as little as, you know, a couple, like hard concussions, just in your life, a couple, can really deteriorate your ability to shake.
ari shaffir
Some high school football players committed suicide, and they think that concussions can lead you to, like...
Unquestionably.
Real big brain failures if you don't really relax after them.
joe rogan
Well, especially these guys who have concussions and then jump right back in the game and get multiple concussions in the same day.
That happens.
ari shaffir
They said after a concussion, you shouldn't even listen to loud music or anything.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
You shouldn't watch crazy TV. You should just sit there and read a book, do nothing.
joe rogan
Yeah, you have to heal up your fucking brain, man.
And there's not a whole lot of different things that they can do to help you other than time and nootropics, too.
It's one of the things they do.
They give them a lot of different nutrients.
Like Bill Romanowski has a whole line based on that.
It's called Neuro One.
And this is one of the first nootropics I ever got into.
No Name told us about it.
Remember when we were up in San Francisco on Sarah No Name on the Alice Morning Show?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Great radio show that doesn't exist anymore.
They were awesome together.
brian redban
They're done.
joe rogan
They split up.
The last time we did No Names, when I made him drink his piss.
ari shaffir
It was just No Name.
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
But my point was that he was working out with this Romanowski guy.
Romanowski has suffered a ton of concussions.
He's had many, multiple, multiple concussions.
And he started looking into different nutrients that can aid his brain, his recovery.
And he created his own line called Neuro One.
ari shaffir
That's cool.
joe rogan
I used to take it all the time before I played video games.
ari shaffir
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
I used to take it all the time.
That's one of the things that Mayhem said about AlphaBrain.
That's what Mayhem Miller said.
That's why I knew AlphaBrain's legit, dude.
He goes, I took it, and he goes, I was on fire when I was playing video games.
I was fucking people up.
But I take it before I play pool.
I would take Romanowski shit before I play pool.
unidentified
Concentration stuff?
Really?
Yeah.
joe rogan
Romanowski stuff tastes good, too.
It's...
ari shaffir
Remember when he got caught taking pictures with B.B. Jones?
joe rogan
With who?
ari shaffir
B.B. Jones.
joe rogan
Who's B.B. Jones?
ari shaffir
Porn star.
Really?
Oh, that was Gronkowski.
joe rogan
Sorry.
Gronkowski?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
My fault.
What the hell is he talking about?
joe rogan
I don't know what he's talking about.
Bill Romanowski is a different guy, I think.
Yeah.
He's a famous football player.
brian redban
Oh, I thought you said you got caught.
ari shaffir
No, Gronkowski is a football player, too.
I just got to mix it up.
joe rogan
Yeah, I see what you're saying.
Yeah, Gronkowski, Romanowski.
I hear you don't like white people.
It's like, what are you doing?
You're the worst of the whites.
ari shaffir
Tell your friends not to do that anymore.
Just tell them not to.
joe rogan
Tell him not to do...
ari shaffir
Black on black on black.
joe rogan
Bud, I mean.
ari shaffir
Bud, yeah.
joe rogan
No, Bud never wears anything but black and he won't listen to you.
He's a dangerous man.
You don't understand.
He's the man in black.
You don't get it.
ari shaffir
Johnny Cash did it okay.
joe rogan
Dude, he has a black American Express card.
I shit you not.
unidentified
Really?
ari shaffir
Because he loves it that much?
joe rogan
Drives a black Cadillac with blacked out windows.
ari shaffir
Why, is he gone?
joe rogan
He's not a douchebag either.
He's a nice guy, believe it or not.
ari shaffir
Then why does he have to do that?
joe rogan
He knows people that are in black ops.
ari shaffir
So what?
Might change your life over it.
joe rogan
I don't know.
It's just this thing, man.
I don't know.
Yeah, it's odd.
He's an odd dude.
He just decided at one point in time to wear all black.
ari shaffir
And then you never switched.
joe rogan
Some people don't like looking silly, man.
They don't like looking silly.
brian redban
Shows come too easy.
ari shaffir
What is it?
No, there's a specific type of black and blue.
brian redban
Shows come too easy.
I can't do it all black all the time.
That would be gross.
joe rogan
Shows come too easy?
You smear come all over yourself.
What are you just coming all over yourself?
brian redban
No, but you know, you come a little and it'll definitely get on your pants or shirt.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's a good point, man.
I see what you're saying.
I wear a lot of white.
I'm just trying to hide cum, essentially.
brian redban
Have you ever...
Yeah, you've done it.
You've heard a bit about it.
joe rogan
What, cum on myself?
brian redban
No, no, like where you look down and you're like, dude, this shirt's got so much cum on it.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, I used to have a bit about how I would just wear that shirt outside the house.
ari shaffir
There was these two door guys.
brian redban
It happens a lot.
joe rogan
Yeah, if anybody would say, what's on your shirt?
What the fuck do you think it is, bitch?
It's white and it's crusty and it's right near my dick.
brian redban
What's up?
It happens more than I think most people.
Do you feel like it happens more with you?
I feel like it happens.
joe rogan
How often are you jerking off on your shirt?
brian redban
No, I mean, I'm out and I see it more than...
joe rogan
Oh, like you had sex and there was a shirt nearby.
Do you have sex with your clothes on?
brian redban
No, no, but I definitely...
joe rogan
Do you take your shirt off?
brian redban
If it's at night, I'm just like, I gotta wipe this off and I grab a shirt and then forget.
And then like two weeks later, I pick up this t-shirt.
ari shaffir
You pick up t-shirts off the floor and wear them?
brian redban
No, they float in the air.
unidentified
Why would you pick a station on the floor where they're dirty?
brian redban
No, see, I think shirts have an hour life, kind of.
I think somebody else talked about this to me once, and I totally agree with them.
ari shaffir
When do you wear shirts for an hour?
brian redban
Brian Jarvis.
So if I have a shirt, like I wear this shirt right now, if I take it off in an hour or so and put it on the floor or whatever, I think I could still wear it again because I've only worn it for two hours.
joe rogan
I wore the same shirt Friday and Saturday night.
ari shaffir
T-shirt?
joe rogan
Yes, but not really.
It was a t-shirt over a flannel, or over a thermal, rather.
ari shaffir
The thermal you were wearing?
joe rogan
Yeah, the reason I did it was because Saturday night was Fitzsimmons Irish show, and I'm like, I gotta wear green.
ari shaffir
I have to wear green.
But the t-shirt you changed.
joe rogan
No, the t-shirt I kept on.
I wore the thermal underneath.
So the t-shirt was not on my body.
ari shaffir
It just touched the thermal.
joe rogan
I just did it because I only had one.
Plus, it's a dope shirt.
ari shaffir
Which one?
joe rogan
It's a Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu Gracie Academy.
Have you seen it?
In Portuguese.
ari shaffir
With that green sign on it?
The Brazil?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's like real faded.
It's this Roots of Fight line.
They have a whole line of like...
Have you seen Eddie with the Bruce Lee Kung Fu shirt?
ari shaffir
I think so.
joe rogan
Yeah, I always loved it because it was like the name of Bruce Lee's first Kung Fu school that he had when he came to America.
ari shaffir
Oh, really?
joe rogan
Yeah, and it's really badass.
And so I went to their website and they had a bunch of fucking cool shit.
And so I bought this old school Gracie Academy one.
And then I got this one on right now.
The one that I'm wearing right now.
This was Hickson versus Kimura.
Or excuse me, not Hickson.
Helio.
Hickson's dad.
Hickson's the main guy.
The originator.
Excuse me.
Helio versus Kimura from 1951. That's cool.
brian redban
I own zero Gracie clothes.
ari shaffir
Zero?
brian redban
Zero.
joe rogan
Yeah, you had some tap out shit that you used to rock every now and then.
unidentified
I used to.
ari shaffir
I used to.
And then when I saw a homeless guy wearing a tap out shirt, I was like, this might be too mainstream now.
joe rogan
I saw a homeless guy in an Ed Hardy shirt.
ari shaffir
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Some homeless guy today cheered me on.
I went through a red light.
brian redban
Did they think you were the Great Space Coaster?
ari shaffir
No, I thought I was going to go through it.
Like I'm taking him out to another dimension.
I was going to go through it.
It's like yellow.
I'm like, nah, I'll just run this one.
joe rogan
Were you wearing that sweater?
ari shaffir
I was wearing the sweater.
But he starts doing the fist pump.
And as I go through, he goes, yeah!
He gets me with the fingers.
And I was like, yeah, man.
brian redban
Did they think you were the Nyan Cat?
Where's your toast?
joe rogan
It makes you think that there's so lot of homeless guys who probably could have been kind of cool in any other era.
Maybe they might not have been homeless.
Maybe if they grew up in the 60s, they would have skated through and actually been okay and got a job.
ari shaffir
They must have some parts of them that are okay.
Maybe 100% homeless.
joe rogan
There's a lot of people becoming homeless now, though, man.
This is a tricky time.
There's more homeless people now, I bet.
brian redban
Yeah.
There's actually people that I know that are homeless, like comics, and it kind of creeps me out.
ari shaffir
Are they couchsurfing?
brian redban
Yeah.
ari shaffir
That's not really homeless.
joe rogan
That's homeless, dude.
brian redban
That's not having a house.
joe rogan
It is a little, and it sucks when you have one of those guys that lives in your house and you're never going to get them out.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
brian redban
It makes me sad, especially since a couple of them are girls, and it's like, oh, you poor girls.
It's come to my lair.
It's come to me.
joe rogan
Oh, Brian.
You're getting dark on us.
ari shaffir
Did you put that out there on purpose, hoping to attract some females?
brian redban
No, because that's scary.
joe rogan
You're right.
brian redban
No, that's scary, because those couch surfers, they must have stinky-ass pussies, don't you think?
Because they probably don't want to use the shower as much, because they don't want to get in people's hair.
You know what I mean?
They wake up early and probably go out for the day.
joe rogan
The girls you're talking about?
brian redban
Yeah, yeah.
Or people that couch surf.
I've never had a couch surfer.
I would just imagine that they would want to leave and get out of your hair and not really bug you.
joe rogan
Okay, so someone who's only crashing couch, they don't have a bedroom in your house.
I've only had people stay at my...
I kind of had my friend Johnny stayed on my couch for a little bit back in New York, but most of the people that have stayed with me, they stayed in that extra room.
ari shaffir
I stayed for a week.
joe rogan
Yeah, Duncan and Tate lived here.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Tate lived here for months.
But it's great.
It's great if you have a friend who's staying with you and it's only for a short period of time.
It's cool.
I loved having both those guys here.
It was fun.
It was cool.
Just have a buddy.
You come home, your buddy's watching TV at your house.
brian redban
Well, you have a good house for it.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's nice and segmented.
ari shaffir
Kurt Metzger stays with me when he comes to town.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's a great guy.
He's perfect.
You're excited about it.
Yeah, it's fun.
Yeah.
brian redban
It'd be cool to live with Bert and Tom Segura.
joe rogan
Except they have families, you fuck.
ari shaffir
No, they'd be the mommy and dad.
joe rogan
I want to be your baby.
brian redban
That'd be so fun.
ari shaffir
They'd be the mom and dad and you'd stay outside.
joe rogan
You mean just live with them?
unidentified
Just live with them.
brian redban
Like they were roommates?
joe rogan
If you could break their marriages up, dude, we could make it happen.
ari shaffir
Let's get it going.
joe rogan
All you have to do is break them up, man.
They're happily married and shit, but whatever.
They don't even know what's best for them.
ari shaffir
I did a podcast with Christina Brzezinski and I thought I deleted it by accident before I marked it.
I was so upset.
joe rogan
She's funny as fuck, man.
That's Tom Segura's wife for the...
unidentified
Did you guys kiss?
ari shaffir
No, we did not kiss.
joe rogan
Did you ask her to smell it?
ari shaffir
I did ask her to smell it.
joe rogan
Smell my cock real quick?
ari shaffir
No, no, my finger.
joe rogan
I like that bit you do.
Do you still do that bit about the doctor?
About getting your penis checked out?
ari shaffir
The one that never made it.
joe rogan
Never made it?
unidentified
Yeah.
ari shaffir
That's why I need to record an album.
I forgot about that.
I forgot about that.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Ari had, can I tell it?
ari shaffir
Yeah, yeah, go for it.
joe rogan
Ari had this bit where he would, did you have a, was she an attractive woman doctor?
unidentified
She was an Asian.
ari shaffir
She was an Asian doctor.
joe rogan
Attractive woman doctor was looking at his dick because he had like some sort of lesion on it.
Something.
ari shaffir
It was an ingrown hair.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Something going on.
And he just thought for a second about grabbing the back of her head while she was down on her knees looking at his dick.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
And then he goes like, oh, she would be like, oh, finally a real man.
ari shaffir
A real man took a chance, that's right.
I was like, I don't want to because you're going to be mad, but what if she'd be into it?
Yes!
joe rogan
That's the problem.
unidentified
That's what kept Clinton alive during those fucking years in the White House.
joe rogan
Clinton was just whipping it out.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
How many of the presidents do you think were like that?
ari shaffir
Oh, so many!
joe rogan
There's a book coming out that says Nixon's gay.
Not only is it gay, they named the guy he was gay with.
He had a long-term relationship with this one man.
And then he took this guy with him everywhere.
There's a really cute Latino guy.
He took the guy with him everywhere.
ari shaffir
That's possible.
brian redban
I totally see that.
I see Joe Pesci playing him.
ari shaffir
I barely remember when Liberace was like, he's got AIDS. No, not Liberace.
That other guy, Rock Hudson.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
And people are like, what?
That's how I remember it.
Was he super gay beforehand?
joe rogan
He's just real handsome.
He was a real handsome movie star from the early days, and I think people just never believed.
ari shaffir
No.
So there must be guys like that in Office 2. Of course.
So you just don't want to think about it because of the times?
unidentified
Yeah.
ari shaffir
But it's like, yeah.
joe rogan
They're pretty sure Nixon.
This guy's pretty sure.
He's going on a limb on this Nixon thing.
ari shaffir
George Washington was good.
joe rogan
He's got a lot of photos of...
George Washington?
unidentified
I wouldn't believe that.
Spread it.
joe rogan
Spread it.
Lincoln shared a bed with a man.
unidentified
Fuck him!
joe rogan
But apparently it was common back then.
unidentified
Really?
brian redban
The rusty trombone.
ari shaffir
It's common now.
It's called homosexuality.
unidentified
Well, it's also...
joe rogan
They were cold as fuck.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, Lincoln was living in a fucking house made out of sticks.
ari shaffir
Yeah, that's right.
joe rogan
Built his own fucking house.
ari shaffir
There's not much weatherproofing.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian redban
If you had to sleep with one president, who would it be?
joe rogan
Clinton, I bet he knows how to slam a dick.
unidentified
That's good.
joe rogan
Plus, he might be willing to bring some girls into the equation.
You know, listen man, you can fuck me, but can we get some girls too?
unidentified
Shit!
brian redban
I was always attracted growing up to Andrew Jackson just because of his hair.
ari shaffir
Andrew Jackson?
brian redban
Yeah, on the $20 bill.
It was kind of cool.
joe rogan
Well, Washington had white teeth.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like these crazy fake wooden teeth.
ari shaffir
What do they call it when black people have them?
Caps?
joe rogan
No, he had dentures.
ari shaffir
Oh, really?
joe rogan
Yeah, they were, you know, like one of the first early dentures.
You know, they didn't take care of their mouths back then.
People's mouths, their teeth would rot out of their fucking head.
ari shaffir
They didn't know anything then.
joe rogan
No, they didn't know shit.
ari shaffir
If you had his appendicitis, you would just die of that.
joe rogan
Dead.
ari shaffir
And no one knows what it is.
It comes on within a week, you're dead.
joe rogan
Yeah.
They probably thought it was witchcraft.
All these people allergic to peanuts.
Oh, yeah.
They just die off.
Yeah.
Allergies to milk.
See?
ari shaffir
Our technology has overcome nature's way of getting rid of those people.
joe rogan
Well, I mean, look.
The meek shall inherit the earth.
I mean, that, as a quote, it sounds silly.
It sounds biblical.
It sounds like, oh, yeah, sure they will.
Physically meek, but mentally strong.
Physically weak, but able to manifest all sorts of incredible things out of technology.
That's really what's going on.
And in manifesting all these incredible things out of technology, the body has less and less requirements physically.
So they become meek.
They become meek and their computers and technology become strong and they inherit the fucking earth.
It's that simple.
That's really what's happening.
That's what's going to happen.
And along the way they're going to figure out cures to every fucking disease.
ari shaffir
Or the strong people will just start bashing the fuck out of the smart people.
joe rogan
That's possible too.
ari shaffir
But then eventually they would breed smart people.
joe rogan
We're in a middle state right now because I wouldn't say it's the smartest people controlling the world right now.
It's just the cunts.
ari shaffir
Smartest people I've ever been.
joe rogan
Smartest cunts.
ari shaffir
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
But they're cunts.
They're really smart people like Bill Gates.
They're not really controlling the world.
I mean, they have a massive business and everything like that, but they're not directing overseas campaigns to get these minerals and fuck up governments.
ari shaffir
No, you know what he's controlling, Bill Gates?
Curing malaria.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Fucking great things.
joe rogan
Great things.
ari shaffir
He's just donating billions of dollars.
joe rogan
Isn't it amazing how...
Steve Jobs always got the reputation as being the cool guy who's green and great for the world.
Meanwhile, Bill Gates is the guy that's donating money for schools.
He's done crazy humanitarian shit.
ari shaffir
Malaria Research Institute, or whatever it's called, they're like, we're done without him.
As soon as he stops giving, we're out.
joe rogan
That's amazing.
Have you seen his house?
ari shaffir
Oh, no.
joe rogan
The all green thing?
ari shaffir
Uh-uh.
What's it like?
joe rogan
Dude.
Oh, my God.
ari shaffir
What's it like?
joe rogan
There's a design for it online.
It's fucking incredible.
It's built...
First of all, he has a submarine.
ari shaffir
What?
joe rogan
What?
That's what I said.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
He's got a door underneath his fucking house where he can, like, open up and...
ari shaffir
What?
joe rogan
And bring the fucking submarine in.
unidentified
Up?
Yes.
brian redban
It's just not crazy.
joe rogan
Like, it opens.
He can bring it in and pull the submarine up.
ari shaffir
Like in those old C-Lab shows or whatever when they came in?
joe rogan
I hope I didn't make this up.
brian redban
What if he's just crazy?
unidentified
Yeah, I got a door.
joe rogan
It's an incredible state-of-the-art building.
ari shaffir
It's like a garage for a submarine.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's on like a sound.
It's on like the ocean or a lake or something like that.
And it's this amazing fucking house.
Like the top-of-the-line technology.
In every room, you walk in, you wear a pendant.
And the pendant gives your particular ID out to all these different sensors.
So as you enter a room, your particular lighting comes on, it goes to your temperature, your music starts playing.
ari shaffir
So, wow.
That's pretty cool.
joe rogan
That's what I'm saying.
ari shaffir
So you leave one room, I'll come in, it'll just change.
joe rogan
We're talking about Bill Gates' house.
You're such a fucking space case.
brian redban
I was thinking about which president I wanted to fuck.
joe rogan
Yeah, Bill Gates is like that.
We were talking about Bill Gates.
brian redban
I know, but I was still thinking about which president I wanted to fuck.
ari shaffir
Dude, that happens on POTS sometimes if I'm talking to somebody and they'll be yapping and my mind will just go elsewhere.
I'll be like, hey...
Can you back up on 30 seconds?
I didn't hear any of this.
brian redban
See, I was thinking like JFK because I don't know if it was just like the Instagram colored look of all the film that you see JFK in.
It's kind of cool.
But I think I would say Lincoln just for that.
Because that's kind of cool to sleep with Lincoln.
joe rogan
JFK, you know, JFK would probably be the most likely to fuck you.
He was living in crazy times.
brian redban
You were allowed to fuck any of them.
joe rogan
JFK apparently was like the biggest freak of all time.
ari shaffir
I already had a compound.
joe rogan
Oh, you would fuck them?
Physically fuck them?
brian redban
Yeah, you would have to fuck them.
ari shaffir
No, no, no.
They got to fuck you, I thought.
Oh, you have to fuck them?
brian redban
No, you have to fuck them.
ari shaffir
Then Grover Cleveland, one of those fat guys.
joe rogan
I'm going to fuck them.
brian redban
Nixon?
joe rogan
I'm going to fuck Nixon.
ari shaffir
Well, I try to get the secrets out of him.
joe rogan
Just to fuck him.
brian redban
Now, which one would you want to make love with?
joe rogan
I like it.
Lincoln, because he freed the slaves and he probably had already had experience with men.
brian redban
Right.
Ari, what about you?
ari shaffir
I mean, like...
We're trying to last as long as we can, right?
unidentified
Whichever one you want to fuck, and everyone will know about it.
ari shaffir
We're trying to enjoy this moment.
joe rogan
Are we going condom or no condom?
unidentified
No condom.
ari shaffir
This is love, bro.
This is love.
Plus, there were barely any diseases back then.
There were lighter diseases, but you had to scrape yourself free if you had something.
joe rogan
What did you do?
ari shaffir
I don't know.
You had to reach up there with utensils.
joe rogan
They died!
Didn't Al Capone, didn't he die of syphilis?
ari shaffir
Syphilis, yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
That's right.
Yeah, syphilis would kill people.
Have you ever seen pictures of people who have really long-term or advanced syphilis?
It's horrible.
It's disgusting.
Yeah, it's an evil disease.
It's crazy that we give each other diseases by fucking.
ari shaffir
It really is.
It just attacks that area.
joe rogan
Like a lot of them, that's the only way to get it.
You don't get herpes by shaking hands.
No.
But you can get flu by shaking hands.
brian redban
If you shook a dick's hand, you probably could.
joe rogan
You shook a dick's hand?
unidentified
Yeah, no.
ari shaffir
If you actually touched a herpes dick or herpetic penis, you'd be fine.
brian redban
No, if you had a cut on your finger.
ari shaffir
No, there's no hand herpes.
joe rogan
Yeah, you're right.
There's no hand herpes.
unidentified
You sure?
joe rogan
No, you wouldn't get it on your hand.
ari shaffir
Lips and dick.
joe rogan
Lips and dick.
That's weird.
It has to be like an open area.
brian redban
Why would that be?
ari shaffir
I don't know, because those areas are...
brian redban
Yeah, but the genital herpes, that's all over the place sometimes, right?
ari shaffir
No, just in your genitals.
brian redban
Really?
I don't know.
ari shaffir
Just general area.
joe rogan
No, you can get it, like, in your legs, too.
In your legs?
brian redban
You can get it in your eyeball.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's a type of it.
ari shaffir
Yeah, and you can get it in your forehead, too.
joe rogan
There's, like, shingles, too, which is, like, another advanced form of herpes.
Yeah, it's a different kind of herpes.
unidentified
You're a jerk.
ari shaffir
The worst I ever got was warts.
joe rogan
I think you can get shingles on your back.
ari shaffir
Those are going to just burn off.
joe rogan
Yeah, they cook those.
unidentified
They cook them off.
joe rogan
But then you have that juice inside you forever.
brian redban
You would fuck Obama when it comes out.
ari shaffir
Obama?
joe rogan
You'd fuck Obama?
brian redban
I just see Ari being wanting to...
unidentified
Oh, I didn't consider Obama.
brian redban
Yeah, you'd go black.
unidentified
Yeah, you'd go black.
ari shaffir
Of course!
I would get people off my back so much.
joe rogan
Did you see the video of the guy who claimed that he was Obama's lover and that they had shared oral sex?
ari shaffir
No.
joe rogan
Really?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You ever heard this guy?
brian redban
No.
joe rogan
Pull it up.
Pull it up.
ari shaffir
I could see that.
joe rogan
Obama's gay lover.
Just pull up in Confessions of a Gay Obama Lover.
ari shaffir
Confessions of a Gay Obama Lover?
joe rogan
Yeah, the guy was so ridiculous.
brian redban
Damn, he's got a nice ass.
joe rogan
Does he?
Confession of Obama's Gay Lover?
He was, they were interviewing him about it, and he, it's just so ridiculous.
Yeah, that's the guy.
unidentified
My name is Larry Sinclair.
joe rogan
You've got to first really get his team.
This is a Judge Apatow movie.
unidentified
I flew out of Colorado Springs, Colorado to Chicago on November 2nd, 1999. Arriving in O'Hare early in the morning of November 3rd.
larry sinclair
I went to the Chicago area to attend the graduation of my godson, my best friend's son, from basic training from the Great Lakes Navy Training Facility.
unidentified
I made reservations at the Comfort Inn and Suites in Gurney, Illinois, based solely on the location to the training center.
On November 5, 1999, I hired the services of a five-star limousine.
brian redban
Excuse me.
ari shaffir
A lot of details on this guy's story.
unidentified
I hired them both for November 5 and November 6 of 1999. On November 6, 1999, I asked the limo driver, whose name I now reveal for the first time, You just went out to pronounce it!
Mr. Mutani understood that I was looking for someone who knew Chicago and would enjoy socializing.
Mr. Mutani said he knew someone who was a friend of his.
On November 6, 1999, after picking me up at the hotel in Gurney, and this is significant, Mr. Mutani used his cell phone to make a call.
That call was made to then Illinois State Senator Barack Obama to set up an introduction between myself and Senator Obama.
Upon arriving at the bar and exiting the limo, Senator Obama...
joe rogan
Is he claiming to be a hooker?
unidentified
Can you just hit the space bar?
brian redban
No.
joe rogan
Doesn't work?
ari shaffir
No.
Whoa, hold on.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
What just happened?
joe rogan
The guy's saying that he fucked Obama.
ari shaffir
And so he gave all those details in order to be corroborative?
joe rogan
Well, he gave all those details because he's a moron.
ari shaffir
Yeah, it was such a long part of the story.
brian redban
Kiss and tell, buddy.
joe rogan
Also, when you're doing a press conference, you have 20 minutes to kill.
ari shaffir
So this guy called.
He got his limo driver to call.
Hey, show me some good dick.
joe rogan
And Obama's like, man, you let me know when someone's looking for dick.
ari shaffir
Oh, you drive a limo?
Oh, you drive a limo?
joe rogan
Listen, I'm a senator, and I'm thinking about being a president, but if you see some dick, I'll abandon all that shit.
brian redban
I don't believe it, though.
joe rogan
No, of course not!
The guy's nuts!
The guy, he reeks of being full of shit.
ari shaffir
And he's not just like, we had a relationship in college, it's like...
joe rogan
He's a crazy person.
ari shaffir
He's a random, like, call me up and I'll just fuck somebody?
unidentified
That's...
joe rogan
Maybe.
Probably not.
The story is so preposterous.
brian redban
What if it was real?
ari shaffir
Do you think he took...
brian redban
Abe Lincoln was a vampire.
ari shaffir
Gay sounding lessons from the Republican convention like he has to act like this?
That would have ruined Obama.
joe rogan
I don't believe that it's real, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was real.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because look at what happened with Clinton.
Who would have ever believed that there was a president, and he was, you know, in his 50s, and he was, you know, in the White House, and he was having a 20-year-old girl blow, and he was shooting loads on her dress.
Who would have believed that?
ari shaffir
Yeah, no way.
Poppers.
Sucking a cigar in and out of her.
joe rogan
Who would have believed that he would have thought she would have kept her mouth shut?
I mean, come on.
unidentified
She did.
ari shaffir
It was the other one who dragged her in, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
ari shaffir
Wow.
The ugly friend.
joe rogan
Think about that position that he was in.
The President of the United States is literally at the top of the food chain of human beings on the planet.
As far as the most prestigious position...
ari shaffir
Yeah, in the world.
joe rogan
In the world, period.
I mean, it just is.
I don't care how much you love being from Ireland or England or wherever you're from.
ari shaffir
Top ten.
joe rogan
That guy, the president of...
Even if you don't respect it...
unidentified
The Pope?
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
The president?
joe rogan
The Pope can't fuck with the president.
The president of bombs.
The president can control the military.
There's no comparison.
The Pope's a joke.
ari shaffir
The Pope's got religious nuts, though.
He gets those chicks.
joe rogan
They can kill them with bombs.
ari shaffir
Oh, yeah, if there was a war between them.
joe rogan
It's a war between the President and the Pope.
The President wins every time.
He just sends all those pictures they've saved up for years of all those guys getting their dick sucked by little boys.
They just release those all over the internet, and there's a massive campaign against the Vatican.
ari shaffir
Yeah, they're not the strongest place right now.
joe rogan
If there was ever a position where the United States went to war with the Vatican, we wouldn't use bombs.
We'd use pictures of them blowing kids.
ari shaffir
Release more and more of those over the five-year period.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
They didn't have to be real, man.
I mean, how many fucking Photoshop artists are there that work for the military?
ari shaffir
Luckily, there's plenty that they can find that are real because they're constantly doing it.
joe rogan
I'm sure.
All you have to do is set hidden cameras up or follow these fucks wherever they go and you're going to find a certain percentage of them.
unidentified
Really?
ari shaffir
All you have to do is give them all flip phones and I'm sure some of them will just record themselves.
joe rogan
Well, you know, I've heard it argued online especially, and it's really a fucking potent argument, a scary argument, that the entire Catholic religion at its highest levels exists for all these gay guys.
ari shaffir
I can believe that.
They covered it up at the highest level.
They not just covered it up and sent the guy on their way.
Covered it up.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a culture of...
ari shaffir
That's from the Vatican.
joe rogan
A lot of them accept it.
A lot of the boys accept the position.
So a lot of the boys like it.
And so they think that it's good.
They think that they're doing a good thing.
There's literally things that Ratzinger saw.
Ratzinger, who's the guy who's the Pope right now.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Pope Benedict.
ari shaffir
Oh, the Nazi one.
joe rogan
He's my Hitler Youth.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
No big deal.
ari shaffir
No big deal.
joe rogan
Whatever.
But there's letters by this fucking guy that this guy had under his review where these cardinals or bishops or whatever the fuck they were, were actually specifically targeting boys that had come from broken families.
They were asking for boys from broken families.
ari shaffir
Because they wanted people that couldn't fight back as much.
joe rogan
They didn't have anywhere to go.
They didn't have a family that they can call.
They didn't have a father that would come over and beat your ass.
ari shaffir
Those are the people choosing how you act in your religion.
Lent, how long that lasts, and what you have to do this year, whether or not condoms are legal.
Those are the people choosing.
You can't be Catholic anymore!
brian redban
You can't!
joe rogan
Silly bitches.
ari shaffir
You just can't!
Be another Christian!
joe rogan
It's so dumb.
It's all dumb.
But Catholicism is one of the worst.
It's a cult of people who are dressed up like fucking genies.
They're dressed up like these crazy wizard outfits with Giant fish head hats and they're waving golden wands.
It's 2012 and these assholes are dressed up like they're like a fucking Harry Potter character.
I mean, it's preposterous.
The idea that that still exists and that we still take that seriously.
My God, that's incredible.
I mean, it's really incredible.
And, you know, people go, oh, you're so ignorant.
You know, you hate religion.
You hate...
I hate everything that stinks like shit.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
Shove down everybody's throat.
You can't even bring something up that goes against them.
Oh, you don't want to have to give people fucking birth control if we're Christian.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
It's like, ugh.
If I'm Jewish, I don't have to let people get bacon with the money I give them?
joe rogan
What are you arguing about?
ari shaffir
When all the fucking Christians don't let anyone do anything.
They think they run everything.
You can't get birth control to girls because Catholics don't want to have to offer that to people?
joe rogan
Well, Catholics think that birth control is actually bad.
ari shaffir
So then don't take it.
joe rogan
The Pope tells you that you're not supposed to be using condoms.
You're not supposed to be using birth control.
You're supposed to be having sex for procreation only.
ari shaffir
Yeah, so that's what they should do.
It's got nothing to do with what your employees need.
joe rogan
That's why boys have a boy pussy.
ari shaffir
If you're a Christian scientist, you can't deny all healthcare to your workers because you don't believe in healthcare.
joe rogan
Yeah, well there's...
ari shaffir
You just don't do it yourself.
joe rogan
There's certainly that.
That's certainly a problem if you're an employer.
But I think overall the real problem is that it's an ideology.
And it's an ideology that's based on just some shit that's written down.
And the idea that there's a God is not a preposterous idea.
If you look at the underlying code of the universe, it's really the whole Fibonacci sequence that reoccurs in nature over and over again.
There's this constant drive towards complexity.
It may very well be coincidence.
Or it may be that there's some sort of an Yeah.
being a person.
We anthropomorphize.
That's what we do when you have an animal and you put it in a human context.
I mean, whatever, however you would describe that, putting a god, a deity into a human context.
I think that's ridiculous.
I think the idea of it even being remotely like our consciousness is ridiculous.
But it's not ridiculous that there's some sort of a higher order.
It doesn't seem to me.
But what's ridiculous is all these stupid old stories that everybody's basing their life on.
Circumcising kids and not eating pork.
ari shaffir
What are you talking about?
joe rogan
No water during the day.
ari shaffir
There are zero proofs for this.
You can do it if you want, but don't fucking tell anyone else.
Who cares what anyone else does?
They don't have to do your shit.
joe rogan
It's stupid.
ari shaffir
That's what it is.
It's dumb.
joe rogan
But the problem is...
There's a lot of people out there that really have a hard time thinking for themselves.
And they are happier when someone comes along and they offer them a predetermined pattern they can follow.
That's why religion works for a lot of people.
ari shaffir
Alright, so do it yourself.
Don't force on anybody else.
It's stupid, but do it yourself if you want to do it.
joe rogan
And then I think the problem with that is that when someone's doing something, they want other people to do it too.
It's like when dudes go vegan and they get douchey with you.
How many times have you ever had that happen?
ari shaffir
But they're happy that you're not vegan.
joe rogan
Sometimes.
ari shaffir
They're happy that they can look down on you in some way.
joe rogan
I've had guys like, come on man, you really need to try this.
You really need to, come on man.
I'm like, you need to get the fuck away from me.
If I don't eat these animals, are they going to live forever?
Is something going to happen?
Are they going to cure cancer, you stupid fuck?
What are you saying?
You're not going to kill animals.
What if plants would scream when you cut them down?
Would you still eat them?
What if they made like a...
As you cut the lettuce out of the ground, what if it...
ari shaffir
Oh, that'd be freaky.
brian redban
What if they moaned?
joe rogan
Yeah, would you be upset?
unidentified
What if they loved it?
This is what I was wrong for.
joe rogan
But there's something, when someone becomes something, when they become a Republican, when they become a Windows user, when they switch on to Sprint, they want you to do it, too.
ari shaffir
Everybody.
joe rogan
There's a lot of people that are weak like that, man.
They feel better when everybody else is doing the same shit they're doing.
If they're dressing like Johnny Cash, they want everybody else to dress like Johnny Cash, too.
ari shaffir
Yeah, you can tell them, like, literally, this is the only car that fits into my carport.
They're like, dude, no, you make a mistake.
joe rogan
You need to buy American, bro.
Or they're like, Ford over Chevy.
ari shaffir
You ever hear?
joe rogan
I'm a Ford guy, bro.
unidentified
Well, that makes a lot of sense.
I'm a Ford guy, bro.
joe rogan
I'll always be a Ford guy until I die, bro.
brian redban
You know what's funny is Ford Escorts.
Remember how gross that car used to be?
The Escort was the worst car.
It's like the grossest car ever.
And you called an escort?
joe rogan
That was before escorts were escorts.
Back then they were prostitutes.
They called after the car?
ari shaffir
They were still escorts back then.
brian redban
Have you ever tempoed an escort?
ari shaffir
I don't know.
Things like that.
joe rogan
Templed an escort?
Tabernacle?
ari shaffir
I can't even remember.
joe rogan
Tempoed an escort.
Did you ever have an escort?
brian redban
No, I never got an escort.
ari shaffir
I've never had somebody walk around with me.
Oh, a car you mean?
joe rogan
Yeah, Ford is the only company that didn't take money from the government in his bailouts, and they're still doing great.
ari shaffir
Who paid them back already?
Somebody already just paid them fully back.
joe rogan
No, it's not true.
Nobody paid back?
They try to say that they paid them back fully, but apparently there's a lot of funky malarkey that...
I don't understand it.
I'm not a big financial guy, but the way it's been explained to me is like, no.
ari shaffir
It seems like they've clearly taken away the idea that we have any say in it, so it's like, all right.
joe rogan
Let's actually find out so that we don't misinform people.
Auto bailout.
unidentified
Bailout.
joe rogan
Payback, right?
ari shaffir
What, Ryan?
Your mouth is agape.
unidentified
I'm just done.
ari shaffir
Like you're about to murmur or something.
brian redban
I went to the hardware store last night.
joe rogan
Thinks we're talking about Bill Gates still.
ari shaffir
You know who has a house like that?
joe rogan
Okay, here's the issue.
But while we're still on the subject, because I did know that there was something wrong about this.
In the Washington Examiner, they have an article, rather, The Truth Behind Chrysler's Fake Auto Bailout Payback.
And apparently there's a lot of fucking...
Funny accounting.
Really?
Yeah.
American taxpayers have already spent more than $13 billion bailing out.
Chrysler, the Obama administration, already forgave more than $4 billion of that debt when the company filed for bankruptcy.
Taxpayers are never going to get that money back.
But how is Chrysler going to pay off the rest of the $7.6 billion they own the Treasury Department?
The answer is the Obama administration's bailout agreement Fiat gave the Italian car company an incremental call option that allows it to buy up to 16% of Chrysler stock at a reduced rate.
But in order to exercise that option, first it had to pay back at least $3.5 billion of the loan to the Treasury Department.
ari shaffir
Fiat is renting them.
joe rogan
Exactly.
It's not like Chrysler became ballers and paid all the money back and like, thanks, it worked.
There's a lot of other shit going on behind the scenes.
People are buying things and selling things.
You should pee.
I would love it if America made all the best shit.
I would think it would be amazing if we could pull out of this and all of a sudden make fucking badass cars.
I would like to support that.
If you buy a German car, you know that those people, they're not slave laborers.
But if you buy a car, if they start selling cars that are made in China, like Foxconn starts making cars...
That's a tricky situation to be in.
I would way rather pay more if I could afford it, of course, obviously.
Way rather pay more if I knew that the people who made my car got a good wage.
Wouldn't you?
brian redban
I've always bought Fords.
I like Fords.
I want to get a Ford Mustang next, I think.
That or a Charger.
I've always bought Fords.
joe rogan
Charger's not a Ford boy.
brian redban
Yeah, I know.
joe rogan
That's a Chrysler.
Chrysler's full of shit.
Didn't you hear what I just said?
brian redban
The Chrysler looks nice, though.
joe rogan
They look dope.
That charge is one of the best shapes out there.
They nailed it.
They made a modern version of the 1970s and 1960s muscle car.
They did it.
They fucking nailed it.
They nailed it with the Camaro, too.
The new Camaro.
Nailed it.
I saw a crazy-looking red one with black stripes the other day.
brian redban
I saw a yellow one the other day.
Aubrey was driving one.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They're great.
They're great shape.
I wouldn't buy a yellow car, though.
brian redban
I wouldn't buy that car, yeah.
joe rogan
There's something about a yellow car that just, man, it's hard to prove you're not a douchebag.
brian redban
Mine's orange, man.
I've got nacho orange.
unidentified
At least all the Mexicans love me, but it's like a creepy orange.
joe rogan
Nacho orange, all the Mexicans love you?
unidentified
Is that what you call it?
Fiesta orange.
brian redban
Fiesta orange is what Ari calls it.
joe rogan
Fiesta Orange?
ari shaffir
Because it feels like a Fiesta.
brian redban
Yeah, it's like getting a Dorito.
It's like a party.
joe rogan
Do you think that they just had an extra gallon of that paint?
ari shaffir
I think so.
brian redban
That's why I got it so cheap, because it was that color.
But now I want to murder that car.
ari shaffir
That car's great, Ryan.
You have a great car.
For an American car also, that's amazing.
joe rogan
It's about as nice as it gets, except for the new Cadillacs.
The new Cadillacs are just about the best American cars that have ever been built.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
There's some new Cadillac CTS-V and the CTS-V Coupe.
You're in Blade Runner.
ari shaffir
Yeah, Romney has nine of those.
joe rogan
He has nine of them?
ari shaffir
Yeah, I'm joking.
He said his wife had two Cadillacs when he's trying to relate to the U.S. auto workers.
joe rogan
Oh, really?
Did he really say that?
ari shaffir
He goes, in fact, I own an American car.
In fact, my wife drives a Cadillac.
In fact, she drives two Cadillacs.
And you see all his advisors going, oh, goddammit, man.
joe rogan
You stupid fuck.
Why couldn't you say one, you dumb cunt?
ari shaffir
He also said the same thing.
He goes, I love auto racing.
I've always loved auto racing.
I've been a big fan.
A lot of my friends are owners.
unidentified
Oh!
joe rogan
No, don't say that.
ari shaffir
Why?
You're killing us.
joe rogan
Hey, do you want to go racing?
Have you ever had a desire to race cars?
Get in cars and go around a track?
ari shaffir
Remember that What's It Called place?
Did you go in that?
joe rogan
What a car place?
Oh, Atlanta.
Yeah, Ari was with me when we did...
Yeah, I went around the track.
I did some sort of a hosting thing for a Mini Cooper versus Porsche challenge.
It was a race that they had in a really closed circuit, so like the big engine of the Porsche didn't allow it to overtake the Mini Cooper, which is speed.
It was all just about agility and real usable speed.
It's pretty fucking impressive that a Mini Cooper was only like a couple of seconds behind a Porsche in this race around these cones.
ari shaffir
I love those guys too.
They're like, are you guys going to win?
They're like, we'll see.
And then they didn't.
joe rogan
They didn't think they were going to win.
They're like, probably not.
unidentified
They didn't even...
ari shaffir
They just made a party for their owners.
joe rogan
Well, they didn't even get the sport version.
Mini Cooper...
unidentified
Oh, really?
joe rogan
No, they had a regular version.
brian redban
Have you seen the wagon one?
That's actually really cool.
ari shaffir
They have a regular version?
joe rogan
Apparently, they had all the people from the Mini Cooper clubs and all that shit come down.
Because people get fanatic about those cars.
Just like...
Clubs and shit.
They're apparently the most fun to drive.
ari shaffir
They had a barbecue.
They invited any mini coupe owner to come down and get free barbecue.
joe rogan
I got a chance to drive it a little bit, but it was only around this small course.
They're real agile little cars.
It's like a go-kart.
It's so small and so light.
There's something fun in that, man.
ari shaffir
So, what's his...
I remember I just got so high.
I was like, you were like, I gotta work, so you do whatever you want to do.
unidentified
Yeah.
ari shaffir
All I did was just get obliterated in Atlanta.
We got obliterated.
Because I had no work to do.
joe rogan
It was hot as fuck that day.
Remember how hot it was?
ari shaffir
Yeah, it was sweltering.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ, Atlanta gets that crazy, funky hot.
ari shaffir
Wait, so when are you going racing?
joe rogan
I don't know.
unidentified
Soon.
joe rogan
Okay.
I have a friend who...
I mean, they're not...
I don't want to like...
Have a competition or anything like that.
Just go around a track real fast.
ari shaffir
Let's play chicken.
brian redban
If you want to, in Burbank, they have an indoor adult go-kart track.
ari shaffir
Really?
brian redban
That'd be really fun.
I guess they go really fast.
How fast do they go?
I don't know.
The owner of the ice house does it.
joe rogan
Okay.
Yeah, let's do that.
Yeah, you know, there's a laser tag place up here, too.
ari shaffir
They still have laser tag?
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
We should do all those things, though.
No, we should do all those things.
joe rogan
What about shoot guns?
You ever shoot guns?
ari shaffir
Paintball.
I have.
I love shooting guns.
joe rogan
Why don't you do that?
Let's go shoot guns.
brian redban
I want to shoot fish.
ari shaffir
Gun range?
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
In a barrel?
unidentified
Fish.
No, like put fish up and then try to shoot fish so they explode.
joe rogan
In the air?
brian redban
Like dead fish.
unidentified
Why would you do that?
joe rogan
It's a waste of fish.
ari shaffir
Like toss things up?
brian redban
Pick a gross fish.
joe rogan
Filthy American.
How dare you?
ari shaffir
I'll fire guns into the air.
joe rogan
Guns in the air?
Just shoot them in the air?
ari shaffir
Is that what you mean?
Like pull and just throw a fish up?
unidentified
No, no, no.
brian redban
Like put them on a target and then shoot them from far and try to blow up a fish.
joe rogan
Oh, you don't mean like throw them in the air and then try to shoot them out of the sky?
brian redban
No.
ari shaffir
I went to one skeet shooting with Sean Miller in Indianapolis.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
It was so much fun.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's great fun.
ari shaffir
You pull and you just fall and you see it explode.
joe rogan
It's exciting.
unidentified
You're like, ah!
joe rogan
Yeah, it's like, I mean, when you play pool and you make a pine ball.
ari shaffir
And everyone hangs out there.
They have a pro area where everyone hangs out.
Just like in pool, people would hang out.
Or any place where people just chill.
A golf room.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I have a buddy, Justin.
ari shaffir
Everyone's into it.
joe rogan
They have competitions where you go through a maze and things come up.
Oh, nice.
And you blast them and you get a score.
And then you go into a certain area.
Well, this is Bullets.
ari shaffir
Yeah, that was the cop.
What was the cop movies?
joe rogan
Cop movies?
Oh yeah.
You killed a civilian again.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
What were those cop movies?
Lethal Weapon?
ari shaffir
No, the funny ones with Steve Guttenberg.
joe rogan
With Steve Guttenberg.
ari shaffir
There were five of them.
joe rogan
Police Academy?
ari shaffir
Police Academy.
Yeah, they had to go through those courses.
joe rogan
Steve Kutenberg.
ari shaffir
And Tackleberry, who died.
brian redban
There was this thing on Halloween where you would pay money and they had like a hundred people dressed up as zombies and you were on top of a building and they all just start coming towards you and it's paintball and you just shoot them.
unidentified
And they just fall?
brian redban
It was in Santa Monica.
unidentified
Wow, that's a great idea.
brian redban
They wanted us to come down because we were going to have them on the podcast.
joe rogan
And then what do they do when they get a hold of you?
brian redban
No, you just shoot them.
unidentified
They're dead.
brian redban
They're slowly climbing up, you know, and you just...
ari shaffir
And then they have to fall when they get shot?
brian redban
I don't know.
I didn't do it.
joe rogan
So they're slowly coming in on you like the scene from Thriller.
brian redban
Yeah, they're hoarding you.
ari shaffir
This is like Call of Duty.
Whoa, that's dangerous, man.
joe rogan
They're eventually going to have a game, like the world's most deadly game.
Remember that movie?
The Deadliest Game, whatever it was.
I think they redid it with Ice-T. Yeah.
ari shaffir
They redid it with Ice-T. I don't think Gary Busey also was hunting him.
joe rogan
Was it?
ari shaffir
Ice-T was the one being hunted.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
That's when Ice-D had like crazy dreadlocks.
Remember?
Yeah, but there was an old version of it.
It's like the Deadliest Games.
Really old.
It was like a Russian military guy who was like crazy and depraved.
Brought these people to his island and would hunt them down.
And the reason why I remember this is because I've been watching this show called Naked City.
Have you seen this show?
brian redban
Not that one.
joe rogan
Oh, Hidden City.
Sorry, not Naked City.
Hidden City.
Hidden City is all this Marcus Shackey guy.
He's a crime novelist.
And he goes to all these different towns and finds out the really fucked up stories in this town.
Like all the crazy murders and shit that hasn't...
That haven't been solved.
And one of them was a dude who would pick up hookers and he would take them in a plane in Alaska, pick them up, handcuff them, put them in his plane, and then fly them to an island and let them loose.
And then he would go and hunt them.
unidentified
Really?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
He would bring a rifle and he would let them loose and just go, you better run.
You better run.
unidentified
You better fucking run.
joe rogan
I'm coming after you, bitch.
And then he would go after them.
He'd hunt them.
He'd track them down.
They'd be like in the snow.
So he'd be like tracking them.
unidentified
Whoa.
joe rogan
Yeah.
But it was like the thrill of actually tracking them.
He'd fucking blow them away.
And then he would keep their licenses and shit.
And that's how they caught him.
unidentified
What do you mean?
joe rogan
He went into his attic.
His attic.
He had driver's licenses of all these different women that he killed.
Because they had searched this place once.
They couldn't find anything.
And they had to search this place again.
And when they searched this place again, they found it in the attic.
ari shaffir
You shouldn't keep mementos.
joe rogan
They can't help themselves.
ari shaffir
They say those people want to be caught, but I don't think that's what it is.
I think they just like keeping them mementos.
joe rogan
Well, they look back at those mementos, and they get excited.
ari shaffir
It's trophies.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
I don't think it's like, I'm looking to get caught, though.
I think they're looking not to, and keep these things.
You get more complacent the more you do it.
brian redban
I blame my mom.
She always had that book when you were a kid, and I had a little lock of your hair and stuff like that, and I always was attracted to a lot of locks of hairs with the girls that I date.
joe rogan
What?
ari shaffir
Would you ever, if it was on the menu, would you try human meat?
joe rogan
No.
ari shaffir
You would never do it?
joe rogan
It's supposed to taste just like pork.
ari shaffir
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, and you can always eat pork.
So why would I try human meat?
I don't want to know what that tastes like.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Apparently, though.
You obviously would.
It must be distinguishable, because, well, you can go to Liberia and you can get some, apparently.
unidentified
Yeah, go crazy.
ari shaffir
Not anymore.
The war's done now.
joe rogan
The war's done, so they're not serving any more human meat?
ari shaffir
Charles Taylor's in the Hague.
joe rogan
Charles Taylor is the guy who was the horrible war criminal.
ari shaffir
He was the bad-assest one.
joe rogan
Crazy fucking name.
Charles Taylor.
Sounds like the guy who created peanuts.
ari shaffir
They destroyed their own infrastructure.
They needed stuff to tie people up with, so they just used telephone wire.
They would cut it down and just use that.
So we're like, oh, now we have no telephone lines.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
ari shaffir
They had to test their rockets out, so they're like, let me show you how much I can blow up this dam, and then you show me how much that rocket can blow up this dam.
joe rogan
They blow up their own...
ari shaffir
They just blow up dams.
joe rogan
They're so stupid.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
The whole...
The Liberia is so frightening.
And the fact that it used to be a U.S. slave colony.
ari shaffir
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
That's how it started.
ari shaffir
It's all better now.
joe rogan
Slaves came from Liberia or from America and went back to Africa.
That was the port.
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Wow.
joe rogan
It's better now?
In what way?
ari shaffir
Charlestale is gone.
They're trying to redo everything.
joe rogan
It's still a mess, man.
That Vice Guide to Liberia was pretty recent.
They were over there.
It's still crazy.
ari shaffir
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, there's parts of the world where how the fuck do you fix Africa?
Look at all the different...
Look at Uganda.
That's a long, long, long project.
ari shaffir
They wanted to give Jews Uganda.
joe rogan
Get them Jewish?
ari shaffir
They wanted to give the Jews Uganda.
joe rogan
Instead of Israel?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
So listen, figure this place out.
ari shaffir
There's a lot of talk about that.
joe rogan
When was this?
ari shaffir
No, no, no, way before that.
I guess the 40s and 30s?
joe rogan
So, before Israel.
ari shaffir
After the war, they were like, we need to give them some place to go.
Clearly, we've shown enough times.
joe rogan
So, explain to me how the whole Israel thing worked.
Because at one point in time, the Palestinians lived there, but no, Jews lived there already?
ari shaffir
There were a bunch of different migrations.
Well, Jews lived there, and Arabs lived there, a long time ago, and then one of the Roman kings came and dispersed the Jews.
Like, Kill them.
Yeah.
Well, no.
Just, like, extinguish them.
Go to Europe.
Go to Africa.
Just go.
joe rogan
Kicked them out of Israel.
ari shaffir
Kicked them all out.
joe rogan
What year was this?
ari shaffir
This we're talking about, like, this is way after Jesus, I think.
I think.
Because Jews were around when Jesus was there.
joe rogan
Way after Jesus.
ari shaffir
And after one temple was destroyed, then the Jews wouldn't go back until they rebuilt the second temple.
Then they did.
Then they came back.
When that was destroyed and they were kicked out, they slowly started coming back here or there.
So like in 1910, there was a big migration.
1912. Big migration of European Jews to Israel.
joe rogan
What temple was it where the Romans got all the way up to the top and the Jews had killed each other?
ari shaffir
Masada.
It wasn't a temple.
It was the last enclave of defense.
They were resisting.
joe rogan
So what did they do?
What was the story?
ari shaffir
They went up there.
It was one of those things that one of the Roman kings built for this getaway, this sweet, sweet getaway.
It's really awesome, actually.
They had these hot baths, and they would empty out the part of the mountain underneath it so they could heat it up.
And so they would go up, but the ceilings were curved down because they knew that if they were flat, the water drops would hit and just form and then hit you.
It was really unpleasant, so they made them all curved so the water would run down the curved ceilings and not drip onto you.
Yeah, just really great design things.
But anyway, as the Jews are being pushed out, saying convert or leave or die, I guess some of them, the last defenses, pushed back to there.
And they realized there's only one way up.
So they could just shoot down arrows at people.
At the Romans, they couldn't get up there.
Until they started using Jewish slaves as human shields.
And then started marching up.
But also there, they had enough food and water to last them for so long.
So they were like, we'll wait you out.
We'll just wait you out for years.
They just had them surrounded.
Whoa, for years?
Yeah, they had that much supplies.
And then eventually, I think the human slaves, then they were like, all right, we're not going to kill our own.
So what do we got to do?
And I think they all killed each other.
joe rogan
Well, we're not going to kill our own, so we'll kill our own.
ari shaffir
Yeah, we'll just all commit suicide.
We're dead anyway.
joe rogan
So how'd they commit suicide?
What'd they use?
They used swords, right?
ari shaffir
Swords?
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Is that what it was?
joe rogan
A lot of it, wasn't it?
ari shaffir
Where'd they get poison?
It wouldn't be poison.
joe rogan
Where'd they have that much poison?
ari shaffir
Yeah, I don't know.
unidentified
I don't think they would.
joe rogan
Have that much poison laying around?
I heard that it was done in a very primal way.
ari shaffir
It could be swords.
It could have been swords.
And I know the last guy had to do it to himself.
And they had to choose who was going to be that last guy.
joe rogan
Wow.
ari shaffir
Oh, that's what it is.
They don't want to commit suicide because you don't go to heaven.
So you would kill another person so you don't have to kill yourself.
unidentified
So the last guy.
ari shaffir
The last guy had to commit suicide.
brian redban
Or he just didn't.
And he's like, look at all these juice shields everywhere.
joe rogan
Oh, you just run at the Romans.
Like, come on, bitch.
ari shaffir
Let them kill you.
Or go, oh, you guys came up this way?
I came up back over there.
The Jews are all dead.
brian redban
That's probably what I would do.
unidentified
It's crazy.
Let's get out.
ari shaffir
He stole my clothes and then died.
joe rogan
Roman outfit Wow What a fucking crazy time to be alive That must have been You have to give them to religion or die Isn't that amazing I don't even go to church It just shows you that people have always Had that weird desire to have everyone Else think exactly the way they thought It makes them feel more secure.
ari shaffir
More Christians.
joe rogan
More Christians.
The Jews actually never proselytize.
ari shaffir
We don't.
joe rogan
That's amazing, isn't it?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Why is that?
Because religion is just as silly as anybody else's.
ari shaffir
Based on the same things as the Christians.
joe rogan
So how come they figured out to keep to themselves?
ari shaffir
They said, like, you don't have to do this.
There's no reason you should.
If you want to, you can, but we're not going to try to push you.
He was like, do whatever you want.
At the time of David, they outlawed it.
Outlawed conversion.
joe rogan
Wow.
ari shaffir
It was too popular.
joe rogan
Too popular?
Everybody wanted to be a Jew.
ari shaffir
People were just trying to become a Jew just because they were the ruling party.
unidentified
Really?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Damn, so they outlawed it.
ari shaffir
So they said no conversion during this time.
joe rogan
God, for how long?
I don't know.
Please, I'm fucked.
ari shaffir
Yeah, I don't know.
Now you have to do that.
unidentified
You have to ask a bunch of times.
I'm a Gentile.
joe rogan
I'm just hanging out.
I don't like these people.
ari shaffir
You have to do that now.
You have to do that now.
joe rogan
Worst of the whites!
ari shaffir
Yeah.
I don't want to be that anymore.
You pretty much have to do that.
The rabbi will tell you, like, don't do this.
You don't want to do it.
unidentified
Really?
ari shaffir
You can't eat Big Macs.
Just trust me.
You don't want to do this.
joe rogan
You can't eat Big Macs?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
If you're a Jew, you can't eat Big Macs?
ari shaffir
Religious Jew.
joe rogan
You know that you're supposed to eat hamburgers?
Is that what it is?
ari shaffir
It's not kosher meat.
And it's cheese on there, too.
joe rogan
Oh, so just that in general.
But you could have kosher beef burgers?
You could have a kosher beef burger?
ari shaffir
With soy cheese.
joe rogan
Oh, the cheese.
What is it?
You can't combine milk and meat?
Is that what it is?
What's that all about?
ari shaffir
It's pretty much stupidity, just like all the religions.
But it's based on a passage that says, you shall not mix the milk of the mother with the meat of the calf.
unidentified
Huh.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
brian redban
That wasn't about porn instead or anything else?
ari shaffir
Some sex take that just to be that it's that actual mother and calf.
joe rogan
Yeah, but that's the case.
Why can't you get the milk from the mother and then kill the mother and eat her?
It's the milk of the mother and the meat of the mother.
That's all right?
ari shaffir
I don't really get it.
joe rogan
But they just, no meat and milk together.
ari shaffir
No meat and milk.
You have to wait.
If you eat pizza, you have to wait 30 minutes before you eat meat.
joe rogan
What are the odds, though, if you have a fucking piece of meat, that the milk's going to come from the same cow?
ari shaffir
No, it's not.
They said that passage means don't mix it to it all.
joe rogan
Fuck you!
ari shaffir
Linen and cotton you can't mix.
joe rogan
What?
unidentified
Yeah.
brian redban
What?
ari shaffir
You can't...
If you have like a wool in the linen, that's what it is.
If you have a wool jacket, you can't have linen things tying in the buttons.
Because that's evil and you'll go to hell.
unidentified
What about peanut butter and chocolate?
ari shaffir
You go to hell for that.
joe rogan
No, my favorite one that you told me to this day was that you were told that when you masturbate...
ari shaffir
Masturbate?
joe rogan
No, Ari grew up extremely religious to the point where he lived...
You lived on...
ari shaffir
You lived in Israel in Yeshiva for two years.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, that's...
And you studied the Torah all day long.
ari shaffir
9 a.m.
to 10 p.m.?
joe rogan
I mean, that is...
unidentified
Pretty much.
joe rogan
That's some pretty intense shit.
And they told you when you masturbated that you were impregnating a demon in the other dimension.
ari shaffir
Let's just say you're on your back, lying down.
They didn't really do positions back then, or shower.
Anyway, but when you're doing it, some demon comes, and she's around you, fucking you, as you're fucking your hand.
Yeah.
joe rogan
And then you make, like, demon babies in the afterlife.
ari shaffir
Some writer used this.
The phage.
There was some, like...
Maybe Dean Kuntz.
Maybe Dean Kuntz.
joe rogan
You used it in a movie?
ari shaffir
Yeah, there was some...
No, in a book.
There was some demon who was, like, writing them and had...
Anyway, but then you get her pregnant and she has babies every time you do that.
joe rogan
Every time, you're 100%.
ari shaffir
But those babies never get to be born on Earth.
They only live in this demon world, and they're deformed and gross.
joe rogan
Wow.
ari shaffir
I forgot about this.
And then when you get to go to heaven, when you die, you have to meet those demons.
joe rogan
Oh my God.
ari shaffir
And they go, why, Dad?
unidentified
Why couldn't we be born on the regular planet?
Wow.
Why are we like this, Dad?
joe rogan
So did you masturbate anyway, even knowing all this?
ari shaffir
Uh-huh.
joe rogan
And what did you think?
Was this going on while you were living in this really religious environment you were masturbating?
ari shaffir
No, you never stop masturbating.
I mean, I slowed down.
I thought it was evil for doing it.
joe rogan
So you're doing this, you're there 9am to 9pm.
Did you think, well, that part's bullshit?
You're studying this intense religious...
ari shaffir
Well, I think there's two types of sins.
Literally, this is how it is.
There's two types of sins.
There's sins you plan out and say, fuck it, I don't agree with that.
And there's types of gossip where it just happens.
You're not thinking about it, like, fuck, fuck, I shouldn't have done that.
I was talking bad about somebody.
Masturbation is one that just overcomes you.
I guess it's one that you do plan out because you could just not do it.
It's not like you accidentally touched it.
joe rogan
Women, I don't think, have the same.
They don't have that backup.
Women want to have sex.
They get itchy.
They want to be touched.
They want affection.
They get horny.
But we have a backup of sperm where your dick is like, come on!
Let's go!
It's like, you've got to get rid of this shit.
Jesus Christ, we can't even think.
You can just get sperm everywhere here.
Come on!
Jesus!
When you beat off, did you like, fuck, what about those babies?
Did you believe that part?
ari shaffir
That part was more like fables.
It wasn't like the written in the Torah.
So it was like, this is what the extracurricular stuff.
The ghosts and shit like that.
joe rogan
So when would they bring that up?
ari shaffir
They barely brought that up.
joe rogan
Did they bring it up in class ever?
ari shaffir
Yeah, it would come up.
We're in discussions with rabbis who studied all that stuff.
The Zohar, which is like the mystical book.
But you're not supposed to study that until you're married and 35. What?
joe rogan
The mystical book?
ari shaffir
Yeah, it said you can't really handle it until you're married and 35. What's that all about?
It's got all the stuff about ghosts and weird shit.
unidentified
Ghosts?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
There's ghosts and demons?
ari shaffir
Yeah, and crossing.
joe rogan
Dude, Judaism sounds like fun.
It sounds like fun literature.
ari shaffir
You don't get to read it very much.
I never read the translation of those.
It's so hard.
Maybe I should read it.
joe rogan
Can you get it online?
Can you buy it on Amazon.com?
unidentified
Probably by now.
ari shaffir
You probably can.
It's probably all written down somewhere, actually.
But a lot of it would be the exact language.
You wouldn't get that from translation.
But you'll get close.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
There was this piece.
There was this one piece in the Talmud.
Which is like a respected, like you're supposed to study it apart.
And they said this rabbi went to his students who were living in like a dormitory altogether because there was a snake or a dragon that was attacking them every night and killing his students.
So he had to sleep, and only this rabbi was the one who could defeat it, so he had to sleep under one of their beds.
So that he could kill this dragon.
It was a dragon.
And I asked my rabbi about that.
unidentified
I'm like, what the fuck is this all about?
It's my wife.
ari shaffir
What's going on?
There's no such thing as dragons.
joe rogan
Under this bed to suck your cock, and that's how I killed a dragon.
ari shaffir
Yeah, he said there was a rash of jerk-offs going on.
And the only way this...
He said they can't really write that out in the Talmud.
So they had to metaphor it.
joe rogan
Really?
ari shaffir
It was a rash of jerk-offs.
And the only way that could stop it is the rabbi hiding under their bed.
joe rogan
Saying, I caught you!
ari shaffir
You're masturbating!
joe rogan
Wow!
So the dragon that was killing off the children was just them masturbating?
ari shaffir
It was a desire to masturbate.
joe rogan
Oh my God!
ari shaffir
It was killing off their spiritual selves.
joe rogan
Holy shit, that's hilarious.
But it's not written.
That metaphor is not explained.
It's just assumed.
And you have to ask someone who understands the text.
ari shaffir
Or Rashi would write stuff about it, if you can understand that.
joe rogan
That's so crazy.
In the future, people would just think it's just craziness.
ari shaffir
This was an oral tradition, too.
It wasn't even written down.
Someone just had to tell you that story.
joe rogan
Wow.
ari shaffir
That's what they wrote down when they thought they were going to lose it all.
joe rogan
That's amazing.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Wow.
That is a great fucking story.
ari shaffir
You'd think I'd be making that up, but I'm really not.
joe rogan
It's hilarious.
ari shaffir
Yeah, it is.
joe rogan
We're so crazy.
Whenever we have these conversations about religion, it's really interesting because I get so many angry tweets from people.
ari shaffir
People get angry.
joe rogan
They get so mad.
ari shaffir
You're being an idiot.
There's literally zero proof for it.
There's zero proof ever.
And there's nothing else in your life that you will entertain a conversation over when there is zero proof.
joe rogan
Nothing.
ari shaffir
That's the only thing.
joe rogan
If someone tried to invent any of those religions today, you would laugh at them.
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
You would say, this is a cult.
ari shaffir
But somehow we can't because everyone's involved in it.
But it's ridiculous what you're doing.
joe rogan
Completely ridiculous.
And I say that it's the enemy of progress because that's not on the table anymore.
Everything is on the table as far as what is the possibility for the future.
ari shaffir
Cloning, are we allowed?
joe rogan
What is subatomic particles?
What are in black holes?
Everything is really on the table up to discovery until it comes to religion.
And with religion, that's not on the table.
If anything is off the table like that, like stem cell research or things along those lines...
ari shaffir
Because of religion.
joe rogan
Yeah, because of religion.
Especially when you can get stem cells from skin.
They're at a point now where you don't need to have embryos.
You don't need to encourage people to have abortions like they thought the worst case scenario would ever be.
That people would be encouraged to kill their babies because stem cells from the aborted fetuses would be very valuable.
That's not even necessary anymore.
They've passed that and the argument is still there.
ari shaffir
Because of our belief in a God.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Something that was invented so long ago doesn't apply to you anymore.
Even if it was invented for a reason, it doesn't apply to you anymore.
joe rogan
The most ridiculous thing is that if this God did exist, that he wouldn't tell you while you're fucking up left and right and surely sending yourself to hell.
ari shaffir
Just weird little signs.
joe rogan
Yeah, he would just wait there.
unidentified
What an asshole.
joe rogan
Wait there and go, listen, when you get up here, I know this life has been confusing and everybody's full of shit and they've been telling you these crazy stories, but if you don't listen to them, once you get up here, the infinite wisdom is going to fucking cook you.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
I got mad at God when I started thinking about this stuff.
It was like, what the fuck?
So you're telling me that everyone either goes to heaven or doesn't or gets rewarded on the next plane or doesn't based on you've never been explicit and just said, I want you to do this?
You're just supposed to guess it?
My Protestant friends were like, if you don't accept Jesus, you're going to hell.
And I'm like, but your parents were Christian.
So you're a better chance of accepting Jesus than mine.
So just because randomly my parents were Jewish, I'm going to burn in hell for eternity?
joe rogan
It's ridiculous.
It's ridiculous!
ari shaffir
That's not just God.
joe rogan
God wouldn't intervene and say, listen, parents, you're teaching your children wrong.
This is what I like.
I like them to worship my son.
ari shaffir
If you're a Native American, a hundred years after Jesus came, you've never heard of him.
But if you don't accept him, you're going to hell.
You had no chance.
joe rogan
You go to hell.
Just go to hell.
Burn it forever for your sins.
ari shaffir
You know what they say?
Well, some people believe that Jesus actually went to America and so he told them, Like, one time and then left, and so that was enough for generations.
joe rogan
Your Protestant friends told you this?
Yeah.
It's all stupid.
ari shaffir
It's so stupid.
joe rogan
About Jesus in America was the Mormons.
ari shaffir
The Mormons.
joe rogan
Yeah.
They believe that he fucking...
He was the...
That's where the American Indians came from.
They were lost.
ari shaffir
Lost Jews.
unidentified
Lost Jews.
Yeah.
ari shaffir
This is it.
This is me.
unidentified
I'm an Indian.
ari shaffir
Indian.
unidentified
This is what you're looking at.
ari shaffir
That's an Indian.
That's not ridiculous.
I used to have a joke about it, but I never really formed it, but this is what it was.
There's other parts of that same book that say what the Mormons did.
I've told you this, right?
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Where they said he went to the moon.
unidentified
Yeah.
ari shaffir
With more Hebrew people.
And started a race of people called the Lunarians.
joe rogan
No.
ari shaffir
Where they still live to this day.
joe rogan
No.
ari shaffir
Yes.
Or at least they were saying that until we went to the moon.
And then we're like, what's up?
What is the Lunarians?
And here's my thing.
They didn't answer it.
They just stopped teaching it.
But this is what they said.
It was like, oh, well, when we made that up, we didn't think anybody would actually go to the fucking moon to call us on it.
It was like 200 years ago.
We're like, oh, yeah, go take your golden ladder to the moon and call me on my lie.
unidentified
Oh.
joe rogan
It's so funny.
It's so preposterous.
ari shaffir
Where are the people?
What are they doing up there?
There's no atmosphere.
We didn't know any of that.
joe rogan
We didn't know shit.
unidentified
He was 14. Joseph Smith was 14 when he created all that shit.
He understood it.
joe rogan
When he said he found the gloss tablets, the golden tablets, that only he could read because he had a seer stone.
He had a magic stone that he was looking at.
ari shaffir
That's who's going to be your next Republican president for Canada.
Yeah, he believes in all that.
joe rogan
That's Mitt Romney.
Isn't that hilarious?
ari shaffir
Uh-huh.
joe rogan
Have you seen the trailer for Prometheus?
Speaking of ridiculous science fiction.
ari shaffir
A movie?
joe rogan
The new Ridley Scott movie, the prequel to Alien.
ari shaffir
Oh no, really?
joe rogan
Don't watch the trailer.
ari shaffir
Why?
It gives away too much?
joe rogan
Don't watch the trailer.
There's too much going on in the trailer.
There's a few spoilers.
But god damn does it look good.
Ooh, it looks good.
brian redban
Sigourney Weaver shaved her head?
joe rogan
No, she's not in this, man.
Charlize Theron.
It's a prequel.
It's a prequel.
ari shaffir
Oh yeah, she wouldn't be in it yet.
She wouldn't be in it yet.
She couldn't.
joe rogan
Charlize Theron is the new badass chick.
Dude, it is.
unidentified
It's not bad.
joe rogan
It looks fucking tremendous.
ari shaffir
Really?
I won't watch it then.
joe rogan
Oh, it looks so good.
It looks so good.
ari shaffir
When is it coming out?
unidentified
June.
joe rogan
My dick is hard until June.
ari shaffir
We were talking about Doug Benson at one time about trailers that ruined stuff for you.
Where there'll be a scene that says, you thought I was dead, didn't you?
unidentified
Yeah.
He's not dead.
joe rogan
Yeah, they try so hard to get you into the movie.
It really pisses off a lot of the people.
ari shaffir
I'm sure the directors must get so like, what?
joe rogan
Yeah, you fuckheads.
You gave away huge plot points.
There's some movies that it's almost useless to go see them.
You know what's going to happen.
ari shaffir
Yeah, the first 20 minutes when it's setting up, you're like, I know you're going to become poor.
I know how the movie goes.
Just get to it already.
joe rogan
I love going to a movie that's supposed to be really good, and you don't see any previews for it.
It's rare that that happens, but man, when it does happen, it's great.
ari shaffir
It happens a lot for me now, because I just download everything, so there's no commercials, so I miss commercials for things.
joe rogan
This fucking Prometheus looks so good.
I love a good science fiction movie written by...
When you have Ridley Scott at the home, it's like, come on, this is going to be tremendous, you know?
ari shaffir
He's really good at it.
joe rogan
There's not enough of those.
They need, like, avatars every couple months.
You know, something along those lines, like something badass like that.
ari shaffir
There's so many crapular ones.
joe rogan
Terrible ones.
brian redban
Can't wait for Avengers.
ari shaffir
I thought that maybe I was getting cynical because, like, movies aren't good anymore.
But I'm like, maybe it's just me getting older and maybe my parents said the same thing.
Then I looked at Rotten Tomatoes, which is just an amalgamation of all the, you know what it is, just different.
And it was like...
The last nine box offices got shitty reviews.
Got under 60%.
And I'm like, that means nobody likes anything that's out.
It's not just me.
joe rogan
It's terrible.
It's hard to make movies, man.
ari shaffir
I know it's hard.
joe rogan
Especially hard when you've got a bunch of different people involved.
Think about how much money it costs to make a movie like The Avengers.
There's...
Fucking millions and millions of dollars on the line as far as they have to spend, and then the potential profit is millions and millions more, so there's so many people with so much to say.
ari shaffir
Trying to say, like, don't...
joe rogan
It's amazing that anything gets done.
Could you imagine just this podcast or the way these conversations go?
What if we had somebody in our ear, and every time we started bringing up a certain conversation, you'd be like, cheese it with the best of the whites stuff.
unidentified
Stop it.
joe rogan
Stop it with that, Ari.
ari shaffir
Gently guided away from that conversation.
joe rogan
Back up on that.
And that's what happens.
You know, like, look, I've been doing the UFC for, you know, how long?
Fucking, who knows?
ari shaffir
Is it weird to have them in your ear?
joe rogan
97. It's very rare does anybody say anything.
But once we started going on Fox, the producer actually had to tell me in my ear, the Fox executive was like, tell me to take it down or not.
Tell me to take it down.
Like, when I get excited about something, the way I get excited about it, it's natural.
And I'm pumping it up, but I'm actually fired.
Of course they like it, but these fucking dummy executives, everybody, I'm not saying the Fox ones, I'm saying pretty much a huge group of, a huge percentage of the group of people that is In the producer position, a lot of them think that they're creative.
Also, you have to guess.
ari shaffir
You have to guess what everyone's going to be into.
unidentified
Exactly.
ari shaffir
The most people they're going to be into are turned off by.
joe rogan
You can't tell me how to deliver the way I deliver.
I've been doing it forever.
They either like it or they don't.
Most people like it.
If you don't, tough shit.
If it doesn't sound like you're fucking baseball guys, you're basketball guys, it's not supposed to.
It's not.
It's not supposed to.
It's a different fucking sport, and this is the way I do it.
If I was doing football, I probably wouldn't do it this way.
unidentified
You're lucky I don't curse.
joe rogan
Yeah, you're lucky I don't curse.
Well, I'm lucky I got the job.
Really, I'm lucky too.
But the whole idea behind going in and saying, oh, we're going to fix all this and fix all that, that's what happens in movies.
That's what happens on TV shows.
That's what happens.
It would happen in this podcast.
ari shaffir
You're good at hiring a lighting guy.
joe rogan
Yeah.
If we brought in production people and we said, we're going to move the podcast to the studio, and Bob, I'd like you to produce this.
Just sort of take some of the strain away from me.
If you ever have anything to say, just talk in my ear, man.
Hey, man, I think you better take digits.
Change that subject.
This is a bad subject.
Could you imagine?
Can you imagine how fucking crazy we would go if there was an O'Brien moment and someone would go, hey man, you guys gotta stop that.
Shut up, man.
brian redban
That's why I hate commercial breaks.
There's podcasts that do commercial breaks.
That's so stupid.
ari shaffir
I'd rather do it up front.
brian redban
Just have a conversation.
Every few minutes be like, and now we'll be right back.
joe rogan
Well, no one's doing it.
ari shaffir
Well, these commercials are okay because you're just talking it out.
joe rogan
And we do get them out of the way.
ari shaffir
Bill Burr does that.
He went on a rant when he did flowers.com or something.
Yeah.
He just went on a rant because it was Valentine's Day coming up.
He was like, yeah, you got to buy a girlfriend flowers.
Go to flowers.com and I'll get whatever present.
He goes, why the fuck is that still a thing?
Oh, like they don't get any enjoyment out of it either.
The sex.
We have to buy them.
That still just goes on this tangent.
unidentified
Yeah.
ari shaffir
So anyway, so go to flowers.com.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's sort of how we would do it.
ari shaffir
That's a way better way to do it.
joe rogan
I'm glad he's doing it.
As a comic, he's the same way I feel.
You don't want to have to say the same thing over and over again.
You're doing commercials now too.
How are you doing your commercials?
ari shaffir
At the beginning.
I'll say what the episode's about.
I'll say the stuff I end up with my stand-up.
And then the sponsors.
joe rogan
But do you elaborate on the sponsors at all?
ari shaffir
Like, how are you doing it?
It's like an Amazon deal or Gamefly.
joe rogan
And you're doing it like, do you do it like the way we're doing it?
Like, you just start talking whatever you feel about the...
ari shaffir
Yeah, just mention it.
Yeah.
And just say, this is the deal.
I hate bothering people, so I usually express that.
Like, I hate bothering people.
But, like, anyway, this will get me money.
joe rogan
You know, people have complained about it, but that's just a certain percentage of the people are going to complain about it every day.
ari shaffir
I feel like they're used to radio, though.
And in radio, there's tons of commercials all the time.
joe rogan
Right.
ari shaffir
I know we're not the same thing as radio, but it's similar.
joe rogan
In the middle of it, but it is the same thing.
It's a conversation.
I mean, most of these people are listening to this thing.
They could easily be listening to the radio.
ari shaffir
It's very similar.
joe rogan
iPhones or iPods in their cars is a huge percentage of the people that are listening to this show.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because everybody has a little hookup now.
It's so easy to have a USB port.
Most new cars, like Fords, I know your car picks it up Bluetooth.
So you can stream it from your phone.
brian redban
You know, by the way, if you don't have that in your car, there's something that I recently purchased.
And it's like this thing that you put in your car, and it's got three speakers, and it just goes right on your visor, and it automatically connects Bluetooth, and it can connect two Bluetooths at once, and it can either just stream music to it, and also you can take calls on it.
So if you don't have it in your car, I got this for, I think, $129.
I'll put it on my website, but it's good.
ari shaffir
Most people have that hookup right from a phone to the car, if it's a music phone.
brian redban
Right.
And in California, it's the law.
Like, I know in Ohio, you're still fucking driving around making phone calls, but in a lot of places, you can't do that anymore.
joe rogan
Yeah, you can get tickets.
There are people looking for people on phones every day.
You're not allowed to text, either.
When you shouldn't, goddammit, it drives me crazy when I see someone looking down their phone while their giant metal machine is hurling 60 miles an hour.
I'm like, you know, 60 miles an hour, you can cover a lot of goddamn distance in a couple of seconds.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
And if you know anything about accidents, that's how shit happens.
It happens like, on a side of nowhere!
unidentified
Right!
joe rogan
Boom!
ari shaffir
I was, I was, uh, I was, yeah, last accident I had, I was drunk.
And I was, I was texting, trying to get to the comedy store before last call, without my glasses on.
joe rogan
Without your glasses on!
brian redban
Oh my god!
ari shaffir
And some, some, some cab stopped, and you don't expect them to stop for no reason.
joe rogan
How hard did you hit him?
ari shaffir
I saw it last second, stopped him up, it still smashed him, and then somewhere a cop pulled over, and was like, and I was trying to give him the wave off, like, no, we're good, we got this covered.
joe rogan
Right.
ari shaffir
But it was completely because I looked away from the road.
joe rogan
The cop waved off?
ari shaffir
I waved off the cop.
He was slow down and was like, do you guys need any help?
I gave him a sign of like, we're handling this like adults.
We're just exchanging insurance.
joe rogan
Good for you.
All hammered, panicking, sweaty, heart beating your chest.
ari shaffir
Also wondering if I can get back to the store in time.
joe rogan
What am I going to pull in a breathalyzer?
Am I still going to be able to get my set?
ari shaffir
That's what happens when you drink and drive.
But texting and driving is super similar.
You just look away from the road.
brian redban
I've done it a few times here and there, but I rarely do.
ari shaffir
I do it all the time.
joe rogan
Of course, you learned your lesson and you've never done it since this accident, right?
ari shaffir
Drink and drive?
joe rogan
Yes.
ari shaffir
I left the Stan Hope show.
I don't know if that was before or after.
I think that might have been the last one because nothing happened to that one.
I was beyond lit up.
I couldn't stay to the end.
unidentified
Really?
ari shaffir
I needed to get air.
joe rogan
And you drove home?
ari shaffir
I drove home and I kept telling myself that if I get to the store, I only live a few blocks away from the store.
If I get there, I'll just pull over there.
But I'm like, what are you talking about?
It doesn't make any sense.
Yeah, you're a block away from the store.
That's 95% of the way there.
joe rogan
Dude, why did you drive that obliterator?
ari shaffir
I was drunk and I could not make the right decision.
I made the wrong decision.
And luckily, nothing happened.
joe rogan
How hard was it to stay in the lanes?
ari shaffir
I think I concentrated hard.
I managed to do it, but I shouldn't.
I've driven jump before.
I think I'm going to handle this, but almost everybody has.
But this was not one of those times.
joe rogan
That's scary, dude.
I hate hearing that.
Everybody out there, learn from Ari.
Don't do that shit.
That's a terrible thing.
unidentified
Scary.
ari shaffir
It was.
joe rogan
You don't control your body, man.
ari shaffir
You have less control, and you want to feel like you have control, but you don't.
joe rogan
And you're driving a giant death machine.
ari shaffir
Giant death machine.
That's what it is.
Everyone does it.
Everyone drives a little drunk, but it's like, you know, you put people at risk.
joe rogan
Not everyone does it, man.
I try really hard not to do it, but it's certainly a fucking problem.
ari shaffir
I remember in high school, though, I used to have like a note, like one drink and I'm done rule.
I don't know if you guys had that, but that went away.
joe rogan
It's a great rule, yeah.
No, I have had those.
Especially if I'm driving.
If I'm doing a show, I can have a beer, maybe two beers on stage, but if I know I've got to drive afterwards, it's the worst feeling in the world.
ari shaffir
You've got to sober up.
But Sam Kinison said it the best.
Well, you can't leave your car there.
How are you going to get your car home?
Something like that.
joe rogan
Get a toad.
ari shaffir
Yeah, that's not realistic for most people.
joe rogan
No, most people it's not.
ari shaffir
Vancouver, I don't know if all of Canada, but Vancouver at least, they have super strict laws, so people just don't do it.
joe rogan
Yeah, I think that's one of the great things about living in New York City, that everybody's just hopping in cabs.
ari shaffir
Cabs and subway home.
joe rogan
Yeah, cabs, subway, you don't have to be responsible for being hammered.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
But then you have to live in New York City.
Which I don't think I'm willing to do.
We're going to be there.
We're going to be in New York in May, right?
When is it, Brian?
ari shaffir
May 4th.
joe rogan
May 4th?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, this weekend we're at the Comedy and Magic Club, too.
Are you going to do it?
No.
ari shaffir
Maybe I can just do Friday.
joe rogan
Okay, what night?
You want to do Friday night?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Which show?
Both shows?
ari shaffir
Yeah, I guess so.
joe rogan
Okay.
That's how quick we roll, ladies and gentlemen.
That's how we make decisions.
And Saturday, little Esther doesn't know yet, but I'm going to ask her to do it with me and Duncan.
So you're going to do just Friday?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Little Esther and Duncan Friday.
So Ari and Duncan on Friday and little Esther, if she wants to do it, and Duncan on Saturday.
This weekend, Comedy Magic Club.
But the big one is 420 in Atlanta.
That's my fucking special.
I'm taping it.
This is the best shit I've ever had.
I could have taped the special a year ago.
ari shaffir
Yeah, you were ready a long time ago.
joe rogan
I've never been this...
I did an hour and 40 minutes the other night, and it was just all material.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, I got a lot of shit.
I went through all of it, and I still don't think I did everything.
I still have some other stuff that I've written down that I sort of abandoned along the way, and I have to figure out where to put certain things.
ari shaffir
If you didn't get back to it, it's like, okay, I didn't.
Maybe I'll start from here for the next year.
This never got good.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's some bits.
Well, there's some bits I can't keep doing.
ari shaffir
Yeah, you're just done with them.
You're sick of it, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, I gotta get rid of them.
Even if they don't make it to the special, I'm getting rid of them.
ari shaffir
Yeah, they're just holding you back creatively after a certain amount of time.
unidentified
Exactly!
joe rogan
So, April 20th at the Tabernacle.
Say it, Brian.
brian redban
Tabernacle.
joe rogan
In Atlanta.
ari shaffir
Can I mention three dates?
I got three big dates.
joe rogan
Yeah, fuck yeah.
What do you got?
ari shaffir
I got Vancouver, 29th through the 31st.
joe rogan
Oh shit, where at?
ari shaffir
The comedy mix.
joe rogan
Ooh, one of the best clubs in the world.
ari shaffir
Yeah, that's a big show.
joe rogan
So when is that?
April what?
ari shaffir
No, March 29th through the 31st.
joe rogan
March 29th through the 31st, comedy mix in Vancouver.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Ari Shaffir, who are you working with?
ari shaffir
I don't know.
They've got to give me someone there.
joe rogan
They got a good local scene.
ari shaffir
Yeah, I think so.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's a lot of good comics.
We were up there, me and Segura did sets there last time we were there.
ari shaffir
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
And they had a great local scene.
ari shaffir
Yeah, I'm sure.
joe rogan
They got a lot of funny comics.
ari shaffir
It's a big fun city.
Anywhere west coast.
joe rogan
Yeah, Vancouver's awesome.
It's one of the greatest cities in the world.
It wins like greatest city in the world all the time.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
It's very friendly and worldly.
joe rogan
It's beautiful.
ari shaffir
It's west coast.
They're all chilled back and laid back.
joe rogan
Food's incredible.
Some of the best restaurants.
Jesus Christ, we've had some incredible steaks at that place.
Vancouver's amazing.
That's one of my favorite places to go ever.
So you're there March 29th through the 31st.
And that comedy mix is the downstairs of a hotel.
ari shaffir
Yeah, that's the old Yuck Yucks that we did once a long, long time ago.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a great spot.
It's a perfect size.
ari shaffir
It's close to the area of downtown wherever it goes out.
It's like two blocks away.
joe rogan
It's a perfect size club.
That place is amazing.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
And then I think I'm doing an album.
joe rogan
Oh, shit!
ari shaffir
I think I'm going to try again to take that thing.
joe rogan
So the first one didn't work out?
ari shaffir
No, they just didn't get there in time.
They just fucked up the recording too much.
I didn't want to do it wrong.
joe rogan
What'd they do?
ari shaffir
They missed the first three days.
unidentified
What?
ari shaffir
They just didn't come.
joe rogan
Why not?
ari shaffir
They weren't organized.
joe rogan
So they were supposed to be there and they never got there?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Wow, who was this?
ari shaffir
I don't know if I should say or not.
joe rogan
Don't say.
ari shaffir
Yeah, but it was just really shit.
joe rogan
Are you still working with them?
ari shaffir
No, they were like, want to do it again?
I'm like, I think I'm going to do it on my own.
I don't want to try this again.
joe rogan
What the fuck?
ari shaffir
It was really frustrating.
They weren't there Wednesday, they weren't there Thursday.
joe rogan
Oh, and you're killing.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
And Thursday was a super conservative crowd in Edmonton, but they laughed super hard at all the cleaner jokes.
joe rogan
Right.
ari shaffir
And I was like, that's the best reaction those clean jokes have ever gotten.
joe rogan
Right.
ari shaffir
Like, I would have liked to have had that down.
And then Friday, they sent somebody in, but he used to know the system.
And then Saturday, there was all this feedback from the soda machine.
joe rogan
Oh, no.
ari shaffir
So they just couldn't use two full bits.
And I was like, I want them.
joe rogan
Yeah, that shit's annoying.
It's hard to fucking get a special down.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
There's a lot of pressure to just...
Have that moment be just like a real show.
So that's why I'm doing a lot of shows between now and then.
If you see me adding shows, that's exactly what's going on.
ari shaffir
Trying to get ready.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's why I'm doing Hollywood.
I'm doing the improv.
April 13th, 14th, and 15th.
The Hollywood, not California, rather.
Hollywood, Florida.
The one with the hard rock.
So that's April 13th, 14th.
And then the 20th Atlantic.
Oh, in Louisiana.
We're doing the improv in Louisiana.
ari shaffir
Is it Louisiana improv?
joe rogan
In Louisville, Kentucky.
Did I say Louisiana?
I did.
Jesus Christ.
ari shaffir
Who lets me talk?
joe rogan
How do I have a living talking?
brian redban
Tab or nipple.
joe rogan
Tab or nipple.
3330. March 30th through April 1st, we're at the Louisville, Louisville, Kentucky Improv.
ari shaffir
You just do as many sets as you can and get like right in groove.
joe rogan
I'm just trying to, I'm getting up like crazy.
I'm just going to get up every weekend, all week, everywhere.
Just going to just bang it out and listening to sets, doing a lot of writing too.
And I'm also preparing for the next stuff.
So I'm sandwiching in new bits.
unidentified
Half, yeah.
joe rogan
And I find out when I do that, I make my older bits better anyway.
It makes my whole set better when I'm jamming new shit into them.
ari shaffir
I had a friend ask me about this.
He goes, sometimes, Mike Stork, he was like, sometimes I feel like if I do these old bits, I make them longer and I add stuff to them.
But my theory with that is, that new stuff, that new creative stuff that you put into that, you would put into the other new bit.
joe rogan
Yeah, absolutely.
ari shaffir
You just make your other bits better.
joe rogan
There's both.
You know, I think that a bit can cook for a certain amount of time, then after a while, it's done.
ari shaffir
It's done.
joe rogan
Sometimes it's not done, and you're like a year into this bit, but then in the next year, you'll come up with all this great new shit to go along with it, and now it becomes like a real piece that you're proud of, and then you let it go.
It's all like knowing when to let it go, you know?
It's hard.
brian redban
Friday I'll be at the Ice House with Joey Diaz and Doug Benson for the Ice House Chronicles.
joe rogan
Yeah, but the Ice House Chronicles, by the way, are available only on iTunes under the Death Squad label.
It's all free and everything, and it's deathsquad.tv.
brian redban
That to be it.
And that last one we did with Greg Fitzsimmons and Joey Diaz, Brody Stevens, Lil' Esther.
We just put it up.
joe rogan
Boom!
So, that's it.
This weekend, I'm at the Comedy Magic Club at Hermosa Beach on Friday night with Ari Shafir and Duncan Trestle.
And on Saturday night, Duncan and Lil' Esther.
Come on down, you dirty bitches.
And then, of course, all the other information is available on JoeRogan.net.
The big one, though, is the Tabernacle in Atlanta, April 20th.
It's going down.
Two shows.
The first show is essentially sold out.
ari shaffir
It's way cooler to be there for a taping like that.
unidentified
Yeah.
ari shaffir
To say you were there.
joe rogan
This is my best one.
I'm coming out guns blazing.
This is my best shit ever.
And I'm going to release it Louis C.K. style on the internet.
Five bucks.
brian redban
Gingerly.
ari shaffir
My last big date that I've got to say is Dallas.
unidentified
Dallas.
joe rogan
Addison.
Addison Improv.
When is that?
ari shaffir
Second week of April.
joe rogan
That's a huge spot for you, man.
That's awesome.
I'm glad.
ari shaffir
That's the improv letting me in and saying, like, let's see how well you do.
joe rogan
We're going to have you on that week.
Crush that.
What is it again?
Addison Improv.
When?
ari shaffir
April, let's say, 11th through the 14th.
joe rogan
And they can get this information.
12th through the 15th, April, Addison Improv.
And they can get this information on AriTheGreat.com.
ari shaffir
AriTheGreat.com.
It's all right there.
joe rogan
And follow Ari on Twitter.
Ari Shafir.
S-H-A-F-F-I-R. You fucking savages.
Alright, thank you, everybody.
Thank you, Ari.
It's always fun.
Thank you, everybody, tuning in.
Thank you, all the powerful people out there on Twitter.
ari shaffir
Everyone should tweet if they're there at your show.
You should call it like 420Rogan or something.
Get a hashtag?
Yeah, what should it be?
joe rogan
Okay, 420Rogan.
Yeah, 420Rogan.
Why not?
Rogan's what you first said.
brian redban
Rogan420.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
420Rogan.
joe rogan
Yeah, 420Rogan.
Okay, so that's the new hashtag.
420Rogan.
ari shaffir
That's leading up to the special.
joe rogan
April 20th.
ari shaffir
Yeah, beautiful.
joe rogan
Well, I'm fucking writing every day for this thing.
I'm geared up.
I'm ready to rock and roll.
I've never been more prepared to do a special or more excited to do a special.
I'm just excited about comedy right now.
Part of it has been doing a lot of these sets at the Ice House and doing the Ice House Chronicles and doing these podcasts.
I'm just excited about everything, man.
I've never been happier.
I'm in the groove, bitches!
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ari shaffir
It's because of the people.
That's why you're more into it.
That's why you're grooving now.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Because of these people listening.
joe rogan
Yeah, man.
There's a movement going on here.
There's some crazy shit going down, Ari Shafir.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Don't you feel it?
ari shaffir
I do feel it.
joe rogan
You're fucking headlining all over the country now, all over the world.
unidentified
You're international.
ari shaffir
I finally sort of feel fulfilled.
This is awesome.
joe rogan
As an artist, yeah.
ari shaffir
People are like, aren't you afraid of being on the road all the time?
I'm like, no.
joe rogan
You're professional.
ari shaffir
I love it.
joe rogan
Already selling out, bitches.
Get in there.
Go get some!
That's it.
We will see you guys on Wednesday with...
We don't even fucking know yet.
We don't even know who the guest is.
ari shaffir
Sasquatch.
They're getting Sasquatch.
joe rogan
I'm trying.
I've been trying for years.
See you guys.
Thank you.
Love you.
unidentified
Bye.
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