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Feb. 14, 2012 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience #185 - Tom Segura
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brian redban
08:25
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joe rogan
58:53
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tom segura
27:54
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judge andrew napolitano
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joe rogan
Tell me when we're up.
brian redban
We're up.
joe rogan
I gotta post it on Twitter.
brian redban
So Tom, I went to the doctor.
joe rogan
What were we talking about before we stopped?
tom segura
We were talking about rappers killing each other.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I don't want to stop this subject real quick.
Because when that happened, in the 90s, when they started fucking shooting each other and coming out with gangster rap, there had never been anything like that.
Could you imagine if the Beach Boys, they fucking hated Elvis, they wanted to shoot him.
tom segura
Fuck you, man.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Taking off bitches?
And it was the first time where guys were ever able to brag about everything.
About their money, about their sexual conquest.
It's like they'd never been, you know, like Eddie Bravo was talking about that song the other day, She Swallowed It.
It's not a good song.
unidentified
She swallowed it.
joe rogan
I mean, I don't like it.
You know, it's okay.
tom segura
MC Ren had a decent verse on that.
joe rogan
Yes, MC Ren.
MC Ren was amazing.
What happened to that guy?
tom segura
I have no idea.
joe rogan
Is he?
brian redban
Yeah, I think they're working on the new N.W.A. movie right now.
joe rogan
A movie?
brian redban
Yeah, they're redoing the whole N.W.A. movie and using family members.
unidentified
Who's going to play AIDS? Have they cast that yet?
tom segura
Have they cast that part?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, Tommy with the fucking zinger.
Who's going to play AIDS? Oh, shit.
No, you didn't.
unidentified
That's fucking incredible.
tom segura
Jesus Christ.
He's like, give me that perm that he had.
I can nail this shit.
brian redban
Do you think Jerry Curl will ever come back?
joe rogan
I hope not.
It's too much work, man.
tom segura
He was like a poster child for the Jerry Curl.
unidentified
Yeah.
tom segura
Ice Cube had a really fucking nice jerry curl.
joe rogan
It was good.
tom segura
If you're going to get a jerry curl, that's how you should take that picture into your salon and say, make me look like this.
joe rogan
Was it Chris Rock's movie?
What was the movie?
CB4. CB4, where they sprayed jerry curl juice in their hair all the time.
What was jerry curl juice?
Was it just oil?
brian redban
It was oil.
What was that?
Coming to America?
What was that?
tom segura
Soul Glow, man.
brian redban
Soul Glow.
Remember?
joe rogan
Make my soul glow.
brian redban
And it would get up off the chair and there was like a stain on it.
Yeah.
tom segura
Well, that's gotta be true, right?
joe rogan
How did that ever become popular?
tom segura
Look at hairstyles, man.
Hairstyles are insane.
joe rogan
But that's one of the weirdest ones ever.
You gotta put all that shit in your hair and make it greasy and drippy?
What the fuck?
It ruins your clothes?
tom segura
Black people had the afro.
That was like a statement.
unidentified
Yeah.
tom segura
Right?
Then remember Fades?
And High Top Fades?
joe rogan
They can get away with anything.
tom segura
I remember when I was a kid.
joe rogan
Even black girls, they have straight hair.
They have white girls' hair.
And you're like, how'd you get that?
Shut up.
tom segura
Oh yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Black dudes can't pull that off.
tom segura
You know what I was really jealous of in middle school and high school?
Was when black guys had designs in their hair.
They had lines and shit would be written out.
joe rogan
Lightning bolts and shit.
tom segura
Yeah, and I'd be like, I want to do that.
And they're like, you will look like a fucking asshole.
joe rogan
There's a fighter who is a black guy from some K-1 guy.
But he carves designs, like tribal designs in his hair before he fights.
It looks badass.
tom segura
That's the thing, you get away with it.
joe rogan
But do you think a black guy can get away with wearing, like, a white guy's hair like a black girl does?
No.
tom segura
Oh, no.
unidentified
No.
tom segura
No, that's hilarious.
joe rogan
Imagine if black dudes, if that was the next thing, they all started having Bon Jovi hair.
tom segura
Yeah, oh, no.
joe rogan
They just all had Bon Jovi hair weaves.
tom segura
Or what if it was just, like, parted?
Like, what if they just parted it like a good boy?
joe rogan
Yeah, like Ted Haggard.
tom segura
Yeah.
Just were, like, cool about it.
You'd be like, what's going on?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, that would be so strange.
Isn't it strange, though, what becomes popular and not popular?
Girls are allowed to have...
Everything can be fake.
You can have fake tits.
You can have fake hair.
Nobody gives a shit.
As long as you look good, good.
Okay, let's go.
No guy is really...
Well, I mean, guys are.
Don't get me wrong.
But it's acceptable for you to be pretty inauthentic.
tom segura
We are held to such a lower standard.
Another thing that we get, for most guys, if you shower, you bathe regularly, and you basically change clothes, that's considered to take care of yourself.
joe rogan
You don't have to wear makeup.
tom segura
You don't do anything.
joe rogan
Could you imagine, though, if you found out a dude was wearing blue contacts?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Girls would be like, what the fuck is wrong with this guy?
brian redban
I almost bought some fake contacts the other day just because I was that stoned, but it wasn't blue.
There's ones where you can get cat eyes, you can get completely black, and I just want to have a pair for no reason at all.
joe rogan
Do you remember Michael Jackson's Thriller when he had those?
brian redban
Oh yeah, the cat eyes.
joe rogan
Yeah, the cat eyes.
brian redban
Dude, they have those, and I guess they're pretty cheap.
They were like $89, and he just...
Put him in your eye.
unidentified
Oh, that's right.
joe rogan
Wasn't that like the end of the movie?
He looks up and he's got the cat ass.
Thriller, yeah.
tom segura
Yeah, he turns back and then the...
joe rogan
That was a fucking...
What a great music video that was.
tom segura
That was amazing.
That was an actual event.
That was like a world news event.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
tom segura
I remember that.
joe rogan
Yeah, it was huge.
tom segura
That's when we had far less channels, too.
I can't imagine what the numbers were on just that video.
They must have been astronomical.
joe rogan
Yeah, they must have been through the fucking roof.
tom segura
I think it's 13 minutes and that was like...
brian redban
That was so cool.
joe rogan
For me, it was a werewolf, so I was even more excited.
And a cool one.
That was Rick Baker that did that, I believe.
I believe it was the same guy that did American Werewolf in London.
He did a lot of the Star Wars shit.
tom segura
The coordinated dancing.
All the dancing was cool as shit.
joe rogan
What was the message behind that?
What a weird fucking video and movie.
I remember people were saying it was satanic.
I remember that.
There was a bunch of protests about it.
tom segura
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
We were upset.
What a fucking fascinating guy.
tom segura
Which is the best thing ever when you get controversy like that.
When someone says, this might be satanic.
That was when they were like, guys, fucking yes.
joe rogan
Michael Jackson and Whitney Houston are probably the two most talented people that died and everybody saw it coming.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know what I'm saying?
We talk about really uniquely talented people that everybody's like, man, how long is this going to last?
How long can you...
Do you remember the Bobby Brown show?
Being Bobby Brown?
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
When they were on the show screaming and yelling at each other?
tom segura
Oh my god.
I remember when they talked, they were at a dinner.
unidentified
Fucked up.
tom segura
They were fucked up on the show.
unidentified
Fucked up.
tom segura
Not like buzzing, like fucking wrecked.
unidentified
Screaming at each other!
tom segura
And they were at a hotel and they had ordered like a feast.
And I mean, it was crazy how much food was on this table.
And they were both just fucking completely out of their minds.
joe rogan
Abliterated.
tom segura
And laughing.
unidentified
And then I forget who said, remember when I was taking that shit and you had to come over and help me pull it out my ass?
tom segura
And it was like, yeah, yeah.
I think it was that he was saying that one time she had a shit stuck inside of her.
And he reached up in there and he's like, I pulled that dookie out.
And she's like, I gotta take a dump right now.
I'm gonna drop it on the one.
unidentified
Like, that was the scene you were like, I'm gonna drop it on the one?
tom segura
Yes, dude, yes.
joe rogan
Isn't that funny?
How will I know?
unidentified
How will I know?
joe rogan
Come pull the shit out of my ass.
Yeah.
unidentified
Remember when I was taking a dump?
tom segura
You put your hand in my ass?
joe rogan
Do you remember when they interviewed her?
There was an interview where the guy was trying to get to what the fuck was up.
And he's like, is it cocaine?
Is it alcohol?
And she's like, at times.
At times.
At times, all of them.
Like, at times, all of them.
And he's like, you know, have you ever smoked crack?
And she's like, crack is whack!
She said, crack is whack!
tom segura
I think that was to Diane Sawyer that she said that.
joe rogan
And he also said, it's rumored that you spent $750,000 one year on drugs.
And she said, I wish!
She said, I wish!
tom segura
I'd still be on that ship right now.
joe rogan
Are you kidding me?
unidentified
That would be a good year.
joe rogan
It was the strangest interview, man, to listen to a person who, you know, when you grew up, you know, the bodyguard.
Remember her with Kevin Costner?
tom segura
She was such a talent.
joe rogan
Such a talent.
tom segura
Such a superstar.
Oh, amazing.
If you watch, like, How Will I Know?
joe rogan
Yeah.
tom segura
Like, the video, I mean, you see, she's so beautiful.
joe rogan
Have you ever heard when they isolate her lyrics?
tom segura
No.
joe rogan
Dude.
See, I don't know if you can play that.
Do you think we can play that?
brian redban
Probably not.
joe rogan
Not at all?
brian redban
Probably not.
joe rogan
Not like giving a little sample of it or something?
brian redban
I don't know.
joe rogan
Let's try.
tom segura
Her range, the range in her voice.
joe rogan
It's just ridiculous.
It's really stunning to listen to.
It's just, look up How Will I Know Whitney Houston isolated lyrics.
tom segura
Love it.
joe rogan
Use two hands, you freak.
Type with one hand.
I don't know what the fuck you're doing.
Shit's taking forever.
You're just a bunch of chicken scratch on that screen.
Brian's going to confuse the fuck out of people.
Is there a way to take that video off your Ustream and put it on mine?
brian redban
I don't know.
I could find out, but definitely do it on Vimeo, yeah.
joe rogan
People are mad at you, Brian.
This is another O'Brien moment.
They get excited.
People like it when you fuck up.
Do you notice that?
brian redban
Yeah.
They love it.
joe rogan
What is that about?
brian redban
Makes it seem more real.
It's not edited and it's raw.
joe rogan
Yeah, people like a little conflict.
There's a dude who just sent me 19 tell Brian to shut the fuck up in a row.
Okay, that guy's blocked.
tom segura
Oh, shit, kid.
joe rogan
Silly bitch.
brian redban
It didn't come up.
Wait, here's one.
joe rogan
It's a strange thing to listen to, man.
You can give me a million years with all the coaches in the world.
tom segura
They listen to that.
joe rogan
Yeah, listen to this shit.
unidentified
He's the one I dream of.
Looks into my eyes.
Takes me to the clouds above.
Oh, I lose control.
Can't seem to God damn, she was good.
brian redban
Yeah.
She was.
joe rogan
Fuck.
That's just a once-in-a-lifetime voice, man.
That's just a perfect voice.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
She had the perfect voice.
brian redban
That bodyguard days?
She was hot as fuck.
joe rogan
Hot as fuck.
That was the first time ever there was a hot girl that a hot man was falling in love with.
You know?
That she's black.
And they did a major movie about it.
Have they ever done that before?
Where the hot black girl and the man get together?
Nobody even complained.
tom segura
Now that's not the main storyline.
That would have to be the storyline.
joe rogan
She was such a fucking gigantic star as a singer that they were like, let's sing a movie with you.
Who cares?
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
Just fucking, we'll roll the camera.
Say whatever you want.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
We'll tie it all together.
You're working with Kevin Costner.
He'll carry you along.
She can act, too.
Acting is easy as fuck, man.
Acting ain't shit.
I mean, there's high-level acting, obviously, that none of us can do.
But the regular acting, like the bodyguard, yeah, you can do that.
unidentified
Anybody can do that.
Anybody can do that.
joe rogan
Anybody can do that hard, man.
tom segura
What'd you say?
unidentified
Yeah.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
My buddy Mike Starr was in that movie, too.
He got beat up by Kevin Costner.
tom segura
Oh, really?
joe rogan
Yeah, my buddy Mike Starr, we did a TV show a long time ago called...
Hardballed together.
It was that stupid baseball show.
It was a terrible show.
I made a bunch of good friends.
Mike Starr was one of them.
He got beat up in a bunch of movies.
He got beat up in a Steven Seagal movie.
Got real mad at Steven Seagal.
Steven Seagal was hitting him really hard.
Really?
Yeah.
He wound up actually having to put a chest protector on.
Because the guy was not really supposed to hit him.
It was supposed to fake hit him.
It's for a fucking movie.
Steven Seagal would just light his chest up.
unidentified
Boom!
joe rogan
Wham!
Hit him with that fucking wing chung punch in the middle of his chest.
tom segura
He can't say shit to Steve really either.
joe rogan
He just does it, man.
He's known for doing that.
He's trying to make a fucking badass movie.
tom segura
Right.
joe rogan
And unfortunately, when you try to make a badass movie, sometimes you've got to sacrifice.
tom segura
Yeah.
I'm going to kick you in the chest right now, man.
joe rogan
Get a fucking stomp dudes on occasion.
I mean, that was his attitude.
unidentified
Welcome to hell.
joe rogan
I don't know.
tom segura
He probably had a line after he kicked the shit out of Steve, which made it so much worse.
Like, you get kicked and then he's like...
That's what time it is.
Turns around or some shit.
joe rogan
That's what time it is.
unidentified
You're like, motherfucker.
joe rogan
How did that happen?
Like the guy that was in the movie that always has the witty one-liner after he kicks you in the balls.
tom segura
I don't know, man.
I think that became huge through Clint Eastwood.
I think he'd be the guy.
You know what I mean?
Where the badass thing happens and then you go in close, you push in on the badass face and he's like, ask your mother what she thinks or whatever the fuck he says.
joe rogan
The Clint Eastwood Every Which Way But Loose movies were the first time that they really combined action and comedy together with a dude who wasn't a comedy guy.
tom segura
Right.
joe rogan
But it worked.
tom segura
It works, man.
It works if you play it real.
That's why.
joe rogan
Philo Beto.
tom segura
It didn't try to be funny.
joe rogan
Fucking Clint Eastwood.
Dude, come on, man.
Every Which Way But Loose was awesome.
And that was back when Clint Eastwood was stuck with that one chick.
What was her name?
Sandra Locke?
tom segura
I remember.
joe rogan
He did a million movies with this freak.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
I guess, you know, that was just his girl.
And they did a bunch of movies together.
But as soon as they broke up, man, shit got ugly.
tom segura
Really?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
He got her, like, some development deal to get her to fuck away from him.
And, you know, she accused him of blocking every one of her projects.
Nobody wanted to do anything with her.
tom segura
I wouldn't fuck with Clint, man.
joe rogan
She was suing the shit out of him.
It was just gross, man.
It was just...
When people, like, divorce and they do it publicly like that...
You lose so much respect for the more vocal member of the two.
And that was one of the things with her.
I automatically assumed, well, this bitch is crazy.
Look at her go.
And she never really worked again.
Sandra Locke disappeared.
She was in a ton of movies with Clint Eastwood.
But that was about it.
After that, she thought it was because he blackballed her.
But I think a lot of it was probably because people thought she was gross.
Like, ew, what are you doing to Clint?
tom segura
Yeah, everybody.
joe rogan
Clint Eastwood, man.
You can't fuck over...
tom segura
That's movie royalty.
joe rogan
Good, the bad, and the ugly.
Come on, leave him alone, you know?
What'd you do?
tom segura
Can you imagine the stories that he has?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
unidentified
Oh, man.
tom segura
Do you remember the one where he played the old racist...
What was that?
Was it the...
joe rogan
No, I know what you mean.
tom segura
The car you're talking about?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
tom segura
What was it?
unidentified
Continental.
brian redban
Old man on the couch?
joe rogan
Mustang.
tom segura
It was real recently.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
brian redban
The porch man.
tom segura
Yeah, and they live next door to like a...
joe rogan
El Torino?
tom segura
I think that was it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tom segura
They live next door to like a Hmong family or something, right?
So there's all these like...
And he's like, it's an old time.
He's like, get your yellow ass off my lawn.
Like all this crazy shit.
And they asked him about like political correctness and he was like, I don't know what this shit's all about.
He was like, back in my day...
We would shoot a movie, and if the grip was from China, he was the Chinaman.
And that's just who you are.
And we would just laugh about it.
We could tell jokes to people about their race, and people wouldn't freak out.
Because people were giving them a lot of shit.
joe rogan
Right.
Yeah, people are super sensitive.
You're not even supposed to joke around about things.
Unless you are of a nationality that's a minor.
Or rather a...
What's the word I'm looking for?
unidentified
Uh...
joe rogan
Not minor.
tom segura
Like a minority?
joe rogan
Minority.
tom segura
Yeah, or if you're ethnic.
joe rogan
I'm a minor.
I'm thinking of a minority and I just stop at minor.
That's how tired I am.
I think that for a lot of people, they give minorities like, you know, black people can make fun of white people all day long.
But you're walking a fine line when you make fun of black people.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I've seen you do some great black jokes, and I see people go, oh shit!
I see people that clench up and go, oh shit!
Because people worry.
People worry when a white guy makes fun of black people.
But black people can make fun of white people.
I've seen white people laugh at the lamest shit.
tom segura
It's like a guilty laugh.
joe rogan
Yeah!
It's this weird...
They do that fake white guy voice.
It's like a rip-off of the Richard Pryor white guy voice.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
Richard Pryor was like, it was a really unique thing we'd say.
tom segura
It was.
joe rogan
You know, he'd say, you know, you can't fuck with white people.
You'd be like, hey man, your mama.
My mom's a great old gal.
You know, and he developed that sort of white guy voice and everybody sort of stole it.
tom segura
They stole it and a lot of versions of it are terrible.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's kind of like, come on man, white guys don't talk like that.
That's not how they talk.
tom segura
Yeah, and a lot of them give horrible examples.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tom segura
You're like, that's not a thing.
joe rogan
It's silly.
I mean, you can tell white people.
You can tell white people.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's weird.
It's a weird gimme.
So for a lot of black guys, especially when they're first starting out in stand-up, that's the first thing they go to.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And isn't that one of those things that you see and you go, oh, he's going there?
tom segura
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, of course.
Unless you see it done supremely well.
joe rogan
Yeah.
There has to be a super good example for you to be pulling.
tom segura
Yeah.
And if the observation is really astute and you're like, that's some insight.
Yeah.
Yeah, dude.
You're picking apart something new or you're doing a version of it that I haven't heard, but everything else has been done, you know?
joe rogan
Will there always be minorities?
Do you think there's ever going to be a point where we're all just gray, like a mocha?
brian redban
I think it would take that gross yellow-brown color.
tom segura
That's happening.
Race is becoming really more mixed across the board.
joe rogan
You think so?
tom segura
Oh, definitely.
joe rogan
Why are people attracted to blonde girls, then?
But we talked about this.
unidentified
You know what?
joe rogan
What I'm not attracted to is blonde eyelashes and blonde eyebrows.
I'm not attracted to blonde girls.
I'm attracted to blonde girls that do shit with their eyelashes and their eyebrows.
tom segura
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, I don't like blonde.
I like blondes the most, man.
joe rogan
Isn't that funny, though?
That's a weird...
Or girls who don't do that.
Like, girls who have naturally brown eyebrows.
brian redban
Yeah, that's where they usually are.
tom segura
I gravitate towards blonde.
joe rogan
A lot of them don't, man.
brian redban
Really?
tom segura
You know what I don't like at all, though, is bleached.
Oh, yeah.
It's got to be like a natural...
brian redban
I like all kinds of blonde.
I think a lot of times when you take a girl that's like brown hair or some weird color of brown, you make her blonde, she's always hotter.
You know, she's like nice bleached blonde.
joe rogan
You know what's really freaking me out, man?
The amount of people that are putting shit in their face.
The amount of people that are putting fillers in their face.
brian redban
Yeah, like the implants.
joe rogan
It's becoming...
Well, they're not even cheek implants.
That's what I thought they were, too.
I thought they were...
Remember when Mickey Rourke did that?
Mickey Rourke lost his fucking marbles.
Remember that?
Yeah.
It was like in the 90s, I guess.
He had cheek implants.
tom segura
Did he get implants?
joe rogan
Yes, he did.
Then he got him removed.
No, he had chick implants and he looked bizarre.
tom segura
Yeah, bizarre now.
joe rogan
I think what happened was that's when he was boxing.
And when he had a pretty intense segment of his life where he just boxed and he boxed professionally, he got his fucking brains rattled, dude.
tom segura
Oh, he looks like it too.
joe rogan
Yeah, and I think that changed him as a person.
You know, I think it made him, you know, this wacky eccentric.
Like, remember Gary Busey?
He was a regular dude, crashes his motorcycle, becomes this wacky eccentric.
tom segura
Totally crazy.
joe rogan
Yeah, he used to be this really brilliant actor, really talented actor, like Mr. Joshua.
Remember that?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And fucking, what was that movie?
tom segura
He's an exciting guy.
joe rogan
What movie was that?
We Burned Himself?
tom segura
Yeah, I forget.
joe rogan
Bruce Willis movie?
tom segura
I know.
joe rogan
Was that Pulp Fiction?
No.
tom segura
No.
unidentified
Fuck.
No.
joe rogan
It wasn't?
tom segura
Is that Gary Busey?
joe rogan
Yeah, Gary Busey.
tom segura
He's not in Pulp Fiction, is he?
joe rogan
He's not?
I don't think so.
God damn it.
I hate when I don't know.
tom segura
I think Rourke is from...
I think he's from Liberty City, Miami, too.
joe rogan
My point was...
unidentified
Lethal Weapon?
joe rogan
Was that what it was?
tom segura
Yeah, yeah.
Gary Busey was in...
joe rogan
Was it Lethal Weapon?
tom segura
I think so.
One of them.
joe rogan
Yeah, I think it was.
Yeah, it was Lethal Weapon.
Hold on.
Was he in Point Break?
brian redban
Yeah, I think so.
joe rogan
That was a good fucking movie.
That was a great movie, yeah.
Yeah, Gary Boosie was a lethal weapon.
Yeah, that's what it was.
But what was I saying?
He was a regular dude, and head trauma transformed him.
And I think that's also what happened to Mickey Rourke.
He's a regular dude, and he got so crazy that he decided it would be a good idea to put plastic things inside his cheeks to make his cheeks bigger.
And nobody would know.
Have you ever seen the photos?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
He had them removed, and now he's just got this weird thing where just...
brian redban
I think anyone that fucks with their face is going to look weird.
I don't know if Paul McCartney, because on the Grammys, his face, there was a lot going on there.
joe rogan
I think a lot of those dudes are just Botoxing it.
brian redban
Botoxing.
unidentified
Yeah, but still.
joe rogan
They freeze their face so they can't move.
Like if you get mad at something, you can't move your forehead.
tom segura
It's way better to be able to do that and look old.
joe rogan
It's so silly.
You don't look better.
You just look weird.
unidentified
You look weird.
joe rogan
Your face doesn't move.
Why isn't your face moving?
These girls on these Beverly Hills Housewives shows, there's a lot of these women that have fillers in their face.
And then on top of that, they have Botox.
So they have these shiny faces that are puffed up and they don't move.
And they look like masks.
I was high as fuck once.
I was in the green room with Joey Diaz.
Joey turns on the TV. And it was Joan Rivers.
And I just freaked out.
I just freaked out.
Because I was so baked.
And it hit me.
I looked at it.
And it really hit me what she's done.
And, you know, you just want to go, just tell her to stop.
Just tell her to stop doing that.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Just tell her.
tom segura
And she's still doing it.
joe rogan
It doesn't make you look better.
It doesn't make you look better.
It makes you look crazy.
tom segura
I know.
I know.
joe rogan
It's the weirdest thing ever, that frozen, puffy face.
You know, it's like they're injecting things into their face because when you get older, one of the first things that happens is your face starts to lose body fat.
That's why you get, like, sort of sunk in, wrinkly.
You lose.
So they're injecting things in there to puff it up.
Whoa, it's crazy looking, man.
tom segura
She looks wild, man.
unidentified
Woo!
joe rogan
It's a monster face!
That's why when I see these women, I call them monster faces, because you see them all the time.
And it's like, it really is just a mistake, you know?
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's a mistake of, you shouldn't do it.
tom segura
And it's out of, like, such a fear of, what would it look like all...
unidentified
Yeah.
tom segura
They don't want to look old, so they'd rather look...
joe rogan
Well, it's also you convince yourself that you could fix something.
Like, I got hair transplants, and I totally wish I'd never done it because I have this stupid scar in the back of my head now.
Otherwise, I would shave my head.
But I got it because I was convinced that I could fix something.
Like, my hair was falling out.
I was like, how do I fix this?
Is there a way to fix this?
You research ways to fix this.
You talk to the doctor.
I can fix it!
And they go, oh, he can fix it.
Like, okay, I'll just get it fixed.
But it doesn't fix.
It fixes it temporarily, but all the other hair falls out of it.
The way I describe it, I said it's like you're taking a bunch of healthy people and you're moving them to a neighborhood where everyone's dying.
So they take hair from the back of your head, they move it to the top of your head, and then all its neighbors just fucking wilt.
brian redban
Callan has the exact same thing he was talking about on the podcast.
And he was saying that they can pretty much get rid of a lot of the scar nowadays.
joe rogan
Yeah, they can.
I'm actually having treatments.
They shoot things in your scar.
It makes it smaller.
It's like a cortisone or something.
I don't know what the fuck it is.
Something.
It's Botox.
It's not bad.
I've seen guys who have bad ones.
Mine's really thin.
It's a very thin scar, but it's long.
I've seen dudes who have big, fat, wide ones because their skin stretches out.
Wear some chains?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Do you think that I should have a lot of bling to distract?
Maybe I should have a giant Jesus on the cross.
It'd be a conversation piece.
tom segura
That'd be nice, man.
joe rogan
Made out of diamonds, and no one will even know.
They'll go, what's going on with your head?
Nothing.
Whatever.
tom segura
Get an eagle medallion.
Something big.
joe rogan
An eagle?
3D. Maybe an eagle on the back of my head, bro.
American badass.
tom segura
Now you're thinking.
joe rogan
With, like, his claws will have, like, the American flag in it.
tom segura
Yeah.
brian redban
Don't you find it weird that...
joe rogan
These colors don't run.
brian redban
Don't you find it weird that capes never caught on?
Like, it seems like we should have capes.
unidentified
Totally weird.
brian redban
Like, really nice capes.
joe rogan
Yeah, I find it totally weird.
tom segura
That's the fucked up thing.
brian redban
It never came back.
We didn't wear capes in the 50s.
I think capes maybe back in the 1700s in castle times.
joe rogan
Well, I think we think of that because of Dracula, right?
But is that what they really wore?
I think it was cold as fuck back then and they hadn't really figured out jackets yet.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
These stupid fucks.
They would wear their clothes and they would have this giant thing that they would throw over them like a blanket that you run out of the house with.
tom segura
If you wear a cape now, you better be able to back it up with some real shit.
joe rogan
That's a confident move.
brian redban
What if it had tons of pockets for cell phones and money and wallets?
It was like a book bag that was a cape.
tom segura
I just think you better be cool too.
joe rogan
It's a very purple ring of you.
tom segura
I want you to be a really cool dude.
joe rogan
You gotta be a bad motherfucker for real.
tom segura
When you walk away, you're like, yeah, that dude's pretty cool.
brian redban
I'll take capes over that stupid shit that I saw today at the store where this guy, grown guy, probably our age, had a fucking wallet chain, but on it it had stuffed animals.
I think there were different kinds of Pokemon.
And then he had a fucking raccoon tail.
joe rogan
He had a raccoon tail?
brian redban
Yeah, those stupid fake tails that people are wearing.
joe rogan
Wow, that's a sad man.
How old is this guy?
In his 30s?
Is that what you're saying?
brian redban
35, 40?
joe rogan
Wow.
Oh my goodness.
brian redban
I just wanted to...
joe rogan
A cape is better than that.
A cape is a more powerful statement.
tom segura
Definitely.
joe rogan
The host of Fear Factor in Mexico had a cape.
unidentified
For real?
joe rogan
Yeah.
When we were doing Fear Factor, they spun off a bunch of other Fear Factors.
And one of them they did in Mexico.
I don't even know if they fucking...
It was like an official...
unidentified
Oh, really?
joe rogan
They might have just ganked it.
But they would copy our ideas and they would do them with no safety at all.
We had one where we had these people where they had to rescue a dummy out of a burning building.
And we put them in these crazy fire suits with a helmet on and we had dudes standing by with fire extinguishers.
When they did it on the Mexican show, they wore shorts.
tom segura
Wow.
joe rogan
There were just people in shorts running through a fucking house that was burning.
tom segura
That's crazy.
joe rogan
Yeah, it was ridiculous.
It was probably a regular house, too.
Ours was a fake house that the fire department uses for training in these things.
It doesn't burn down.
brian redban
Theirs was covering murder.
tom segura
That's one thing that's crazy about our country.
Our country and our culture is so engrossed in lawsuits and it operates on them and the fear of them that that actually makes things way safer.
You think about it, there's countries, not necessarily Mexico, but there's countries in the world where that is never an issue.
joe rogan
We want safety.
unidentified
We want safety.
joe rogan
We want to be able to do things safe, and we want to be able to sue people that don't look out for our safety.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
But ultimately, somewhere along the line, we're becoming a bunch of pussies.
tom segura
With the lawsuit thing, people like...
joe rogan
They look at it as a lottery.
tom segura
It's so ridiculous.
joe rogan
I mean, there's people that have legitimate concerns and legitimate claims.
tom segura
There definitely are.
But then you read about these absolutely insane things that you pin on somebody else for things that you did.
brian redban
Yeah.
tom segura
Like, everything is somebody else's responsibility.
joe rogan
Well, you know about the lady that spilled the McDonald's coffee on her?
tom segura
That's so ridiculous.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I think they overturned that.
I think they actually overturned that.
tom segura
And that's not even...
To hear some of the ones that people win in the amounts, you're like, why are you paying this person?
joe rogan
Have you heard about the Monsanto lawsuit?
They're guilty of chemically poisoning people in France.
unidentified
Oh, shit.
joe rogan
They chemically poisoned a French farmer.
brian redban
Wow.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tom segura
That's going to be a big suit.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah.
They were found guilty.
tom segura
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah, I don't know the exact story.
Apparently, it's the first such claim to ever reach French court.
And Monsanto, apparently they have some fucking pesticide.
There's another thing they found out that in 93% of pregnant women that they tested, they found this pesticide that exists in Monsanto genetically modified crops.
tom segura
Uh-uh.
joe rogan
Yeah, uh-huh.
Yeah, man.
You know, our politicians sold us down a river.
They let all this shit go on because this is a giant company that makes a ton of money.
And the way they make the ton of money is they patent plants.
They genetically engineer them so that it's uniquely theirs.
And then they decide where they sell it.
They decide what price they have for it.
And you can't do anything about it.
And you have to buy new stuff every year.
And if it cross-pollinates with the neighbor, they can sue the neighbor for copyright infringement.
It's completely crazy.
They've figured out a way to copyright life.
And they've actually tried to do it with pig parts.
Monsanto's crazy.
They've tried to do it with a bunch of different shit.
But this should have never been able to get to this position.
This is the best evidence that the United States needs.
The best evidence.
Something like Monsanto.
The best evidence that our political system is completely corrupt.
Because if you were really looking out for people, there's no fucking way you would let a company make a bunch of shit Take plants.
Patent them.
Then sue people because the fucking...
The heir carries their pollen.
They cross-pollinate neighbor's plants.
And then this neighbor just...
You know where the fuck he got that shit from, you assholes.
You know, you're going to get to sue them?
And you're going to take a guy to court?
And there's...
In India, there's a whole bang fucking giant group of farmers that have been killing themselves because they get indebted to Monsanto and they can't afford to pay their bills.
tom segura
Monsanto's like gangsters.
That's like mafia.
They will shut you down if you don't play ball.
joe rogan
Yeah, well this is crazy because you've got to think about how much political pull that they have and the fact that they still lost in court.
That says a lot.
You know, I think people are rising up and they're getting tired of this bullshit.
It's ridiculous what these people have allowed to take place.
And it doesn't have to continue along the same lines, you know?
What we really need is healthy food.
What we don't need is a bunch of fucking crazy shit where companies come along And genetically modify crops, and then they take those crops, and then they sell them to people with no evidence whatsoever about the long-term implications of the exposure to some of these chemicals.
And what is this going to do to the environment?
You're playing with God, man.
You're doing really crazy shit when you start altering life and then entering that.
I mean, this isn't as simple as...
You know, packaging a new kind of soap.
You're doing something pretty fucking crazy.
tom segura
Yeah, that people are going to be in their system.
joe rogan
There's not that much evidence or not that much history of genetically modified foods.
I mean, we need like 10, 20, 30 years to really analyze what the fuck it does, the environment, the people, and what's the chain reaction, you know?
What does the wings of the butterfly do from the modified food to, you know, how does it affect the ecosystem that all of a sudden it takes over?
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know?
It's weird, man.
It's weird when you start fucking with life, you know?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's like, you know, I talked to this dude, he was talking about, I was just listening to the Opie and Anthony show, and what's his face was on?
Nicolas Cage, and he was talking about the black rhino going extinct this year.
And I was telling him to do this, and he was like, well, we could just bring it back, you know, if we would just fucking bring back the black rhino.
tom segura
Oh, you mean like...
joe rogan
Can't they do that?
Yeah, can't they do that?
I mean, they're talking about doing that right now with woolly mammoths.
Yeah, but then it becomes the question of, okay, do we need rhinos, though?
brian redban
No.
joe rogan
Do we really need rhinos at the point?
brian redban
Woolly mammoths just to have a couple, like at zoos, I think would be awesome.
joe rogan
Did you see there's a video in Siberia of a bear walking across a stream with a fish in his mouth?
And it's really blurry.
And so people are like, it's a woolly mammoth in Siberia.
And then other people are going, or a bear with a fish in his mouth...
How come the woolly mammoth has a blue nose?
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
You stupid fucks.
Like, maybe there's a woolly mammoth.
tom segura
There's a whole industry devoted to falsely seeing stuff, you know?
There's like, there's all, there's shows.
Like, full hour programs.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tom segura
Like, this is, we're going to talk about the shit that we saw.
unidentified
Yeah.
tom segura
And it's just people telling you, I saw some shit.
And you're like, that's fucking bullshit, man.
You didn't see anything.
joe rogan
You know when I really learned that?
When I did that game show in my head show.
I did this show for CBS and what the show was, it was a game show with hidden cameras.
And the way it worked was, I was the host and I would have a dude with a little earpiece in it.
I would send him out to a place and the cameras were already in place.
Hidden cameras were in place.
I'd go, alright dude, you ready?
He'd go, yeah.
I'd go, here's the deal.
You're a reporter.
And you are there for the biggest story of your life.
There was a UFO over Hollywood.
And all these people saw it.
But by the time you got your camera there and got it set up, all the people went away.
So what you got to do is you got to find someone to get on camera with you and talk about their UFO experience.
And you got to get them to say that they were abducted and probed.
And the guy's like, okay, okay, okay, alright, here we go.
And it was immediate.
It was like no one said no.
He goes, listen, man, I'm a reporter for this and that.
Here's the deal.
There was just a UFO sighting.
Do you think I could get you to come on camera and say that you saw it?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
and then people would just start talking.
They were like, well, it was bright silver, and it was spinning over the hemisphere, and what happened was, and they would just give completely detailed accounts.
It's like at this point, people have been so poisoned by pop culture and by the idea of UFOs.
They can just recall.
They just have this frozen, fake idea in their head from 100 movies, and they can just, oh, yeah, I remember what happened in that movie.
Yeah, or there was lights and lights that spin around.
tom segura
They've seen it a hundred times.
joe rogan
It was amazing.
They just lied.
Not only did they lie, they lied and were willing to sign a waiver saying that they lied and that we were going to show it on TV. It was nuts.
tom segura
People love to lie about stories because they love to be the one to report.
There's a fascination with, like, you want to know what happened?
And you get to report.
Because everybody focuses on you, and they're like, what happened?
And so if you're willing to give them the goods, people are willing to listen.
And you get a charge out of being the one that told everybody.
They love it.
It's amazing that they're willing to just make it up.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tom segura
Just for that feeling.
joe rogan
I think people, there's a lot of people that live lives of such shit.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
Their lives suck so bad that they almost believe what they're saying when they tell you some story about seeing Bigfoot.
tom segura
Sure.
joe rogan
You know?
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
It was probably a bear, and it was 20 years ago, and they were scared, and it was dusk, and they were like, he made eye contact with me.
I'll tell you this right now.
tom segura
Yeah.
unidentified
To the day I die, I swear on the eyes of my children, Yeah, that was a Sasquatch.
joe rogan
And they fucking believe it, man, by the time 20 years have passed.
tom segura
Yeah, they've added all kinds of shit, man.
joe rogan
That memory ain't even real anyway.
unidentified
I told them.
tom segura
I told them.
joe rogan
Your memories that you have from anything more than five years ago, what is that, really?
I mean, you might remember some really intense shit, but barely.
tom segura
But barely, yeah.
joe rogan
But barely.
I mean, you could recall data and information, but how much of that memory can you really pull out?
tom segura
I remember making up a story as a kid.
I remember making up a story as a kid and spinning it to people to the point where I would just tell people in detail for years, from fifth grade on.
And then one day I was like, I made this shit up.
unidentified
Like, I just completely made this up.
tom segura
I told a story to people about, because we lived in Minneapolis, they're like, how cold is it getting in Minneapolis?
And I was like, December 24th of 1989, it was 74 below zero.
I'm like, yeah.
And I was like, it was so cold, my teacher's ears froze and they fell off.
And they were like, shut up.
I was like...
She's staying at a bus stop.
We're outside of Sacred Heart.
Bus came up.
She didn't have a hat on.
It was like the coldest thing ever.
She went to touch her left ear, and it fell off.
It was frozen.
And then when she went to grab her right, it fell off in her hand, and her ears fell off.
I saw it.
And people were like, get the fuck out of here.
I'm like, yeah, that's what happened.
It was real.
And then one day I was just telling somebody, and they're like, this doesn't sound real.
I'm like, yeah, I think I made this shit up.
joe rogan
You forgot what you made up?
tom segura
Yeah, I forgot that I made it up.
I made it up because I made it up for that feeling, but when you first discover the feeling, when you're 10 years old and you tell someone some wild shit and they go, what?
You're like, oh, that feels kind of good.
And so it was like a 10-year-old version of that that I told when I was 10, 11, 12, and then finally when I'm like 14, 15, I was like, I don't think I saw this actually.
unidentified
Yeah.
tom segura
I think I was 10 years old and I told you that my teacher's ears fell off.
unidentified
Do you think that's what happened with OJ? Oh, that his story is just...
joe rogan
Became almost like indiscernible?
Like, maybe this is real?
I don't know what happened.
tom segura
I don't know, man.
joe rogan
Do you think...
tom segura
That is such a crazy reality that we had that figure in our lifetime.
That is a spectacular climb and fall.
That's almost unparalleled.
To be a Heisman Trophy winning top, top tier world class athlete and celebrity that parlayed it into this...
unidentified
Awesome TV, movie career.
Commercials.
tom segura
I mean, he was...
joe rogan
That was like...
tom segura
Dude, that is...
That's it.
Like, that's basically...
That's the top of the mountain when it comes to an athlete's career.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Athlete transitioning into celebrity.
unidentified
Oh, man.
tom segura
That's the model to follow.
Like, it had to do it.
And then for that to be the guy...
Fucking just...
Butchered people.
joe rogan
Isn't it crazy?
Cut them up.
Just over some pussy.
tom segura
And then wanted to steal back his shit.
That's my shit, man!
joe rogan
Let it go, son.
It's just a little bit of pussy.
tom segura
And now he's locked up for another...
He beat the craziest...
The crime that we all know that's so crazy.
joe rogan
He beat that charge and went back for some dumb shit some dumb beyond dumb shit memorabilia taking his memorabilia back with a station was that what it was the pal station station man First on the UFC.
tom segura
Oh really does what my that was my first Las Vegas game Really you played the pal station pal station Wow, that's locals, right?
joe rogan
Those are local casinos.
Locals and people from out of town that don't know any better.
tom segura
Yeah, that's a place too where you...
joe rogan
Or people actually that like to gamble like to go to those places.
They just like to gamble because they have better odds.
tom segura
Yeah, that's true.
joe rogan
Yeah, because if you go to the Bellagio or one of the big casinos, MGM Grand or something like that, they kind of...
I think they're probably better at getting your money.
brian redban
Yeah, that shit's mostly bullshit.
It seems like it's just...
unidentified
Oh, we're here.
brian redban
Let's go spend some money.
tom segura
That shit's real quick, man.
joe rogan
It's weird.
It's weird.
I've seen people lose hundreds of thousands of dollars.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
I've been coming to Vegas.
I've been going to Vegas doing UFCs since 2001, 2002. That's when I started going to watch.
2001, I started going right after 9-11.
I saw Tito Ortiz take on Vladimir Matyushenko.
That was right after September 11th.
tom segura
You called that...
joe rogan
No, no, no.
I was in the audience.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
Watching, yeah.
It didn't work for them back then.
I was just a fan.
And so from then to 2012, I've seen some people throw some crazy money away.
tom segura
I bet, man.
joe rogan
It's just a weird place when you have one area where all the rules are different.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
One area.
Just one area.
One area we can fucking drink whenever you want.
One spot.
We got this spot and you can just fucking 6 o'clock in the morning and have a drink.
You don't ever have to leave your hotel, dude.
We got a giant hotel where you can wander around.
We have world class food here and everywhere you can gamble.
If they had a strip club in the major hotels, it would really be the perfect place.
A strip club and a pool hall.
You never have to go anywhere.
tom segura
The strip club would be like a $100 million a year revenue generator.
joe rogan
It probably would.
But it would be too much.
Too much.
Too dark.
tom segura
Too decadent.
joe rogan
Make people leave.
Make people go somewhere.
But there's places they have in Vegas that are the biggest strip clubs in the world.
They're enormous.
tom segura
You know Macau, China?
Do you know what I'm talking about?
joe rogan
It's a place in China?
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
No.
tom segura
That's their Vegas.
That's their gambling.
That place, the Chinese place, does something like three or four times the money that Vegas does.
joe rogan
Oh, wow.
tom segura
Like, it blows it away.
joe rogan
Is it because of volume or because they gamble more?
tom segura
I would think it's a combination of the two.
joe rogan
Chinese gamble hard, dude.
tom segura
I didn't know they build those places in Vegas.
A lot of them build it to the standards.
Oh, yeah.
For Asian.
joe rogan
For Feng Shui, yeah.
And the numbers of the floors are important.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And the way it's set up is important.
And there's things that aren't lucky.
They make sure that they do it in accordance with what Chinese people think is lucky.
tom segura
MGM! MGM used to be...
You remember what the entrance of the MGM was when it opened?
joe rogan
What was it?
tom segura
The main entrance was a lion's mouth.
You were walking into it.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, and it was bad luck for them, right?
tom segura
And the Asians were like, no thanks.
And they're like, hold on a second.
We're going to take that shit down right now.
unidentified
They got rid of the lion's mouth.
joe rogan
That's right.
tom segura
They don't want to walk through a lion's mouth.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, that's because in their country you can get eaten by a fucking tiger.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
You know?
unidentified
They just took that lion out of the MGM. Oh, the lion that was living in there?
Yeah.
brian redban
I always thought that was the most depressing thing ever.
joe rogan
It's terrifying.
And they attacked a trainer there once.
brian redban
Oh, really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah, there's this video of it.
Lion Attacks Trainer at MGM. Yeah, it's pretty fucked up.
Pull that shit up.
See if we can find it.
Yeah, I think my favorite is the shark tank at Mandalay Bay.
brian redban
That's amazing.
joe rogan
That's the most badass attraction.
That's a dope-ass aquarium setup.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
They have a huge tank filled with sharks, and they have these cool-ass jellyfish, and the jellyfish are all under these psychedelic neon lights, and they're floating around.
tom segura
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
That's a badass fish tank, man.
brian redban
Jeez, this is a crazy video.
joe rogan
Dude, it's a bizarre video.
The MGM, the guys are in the tank with the...
Put your hand down so I can see.
The MGM guys are in the tank with giant male lions, man.
And for whatever reason, the lions are just like, bitch!
Here he gets up.
I don't know what happens.
He just finds the guy weak.
I bet they're just annoyed, man.
They're trapped in this fucking box with these little pink bitches that think that they can survive.
Why do you think you could stand next to a lion?
I don't care if you raise that thing with a bottle.
Look at the size of that.
Look, he just decides to jack the dude.
Look at that, man.
Just decides to fuck that dude up for no reason.
Then the female jumps in.
And even if they're playing, even if he's playing, it's like, whatever, man.
Look at him.
He just goes after that guy for no reason.
And that guy's like, oh shit.
And the other guy, for whatever reason, he's listening to the other guy.
So the other guy gets in between the two of them and the lion chases him.
The guy almost gets jacked.
brian redban
Wow.
joe rogan
How scary must that have been?
And people took that shit with their cell phones.
unidentified
I know.
joe rogan
Look at the size of his fucking head and all that crazy hair around him.
What a nutty animal, man.
brian redban
That's crazy.
I did not hear about this.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, nobody died, but it was a freak moment.
And you know, they have that hair around their neck just so that other lions can't kill them.
unidentified
Oh, really?
joe rogan
That's what it's for.
brian redban
I thought it was interesting that the girl lion was like, hey, stop.
You're biting a human.
Did you notice that?
She kind of jumped on them.
joe rogan
She might have been like, can I bite them too?
If shit got crazy, if some blood came out, she might have fucked them up too.
Because they're the hunters.
The females are the hunters.
brian redban
Have you been following this whole thing with Judge Napitano that got fired from Fox Business?
joe rogan
Fascinating.
brian redban
That's crazy.
I didn't know anything about the Israeli connection that some people believe.
joe rogan
Pull that thing up.
Pull that video up so we can listen to it because it's not long.
And it's shocking.
Judge Napolitano, he had a show on Fox Business where he would really be super honest about stuff and really have an astute breakdown of how our political system really functions and how the American public has been lied to from the he had a show on Fox Business where he would really And the way he did it is by posing a bunch of questions.
What if this?
What if that?
And the way he does it, man, it's really – That's actually a different video that I was talking about.
Listen to this.
brian redban
No, that's a different video, what you're talking about.
I'll find that.
This was the video that got him fired.
Fired?
Yeah.
He got fired the other day for this broadcast.
joe rogan
Well, no.
The other video was on that as well.
I see the one that you just pulled up, but the other video was being touted as something that got him fired as well.
Apparently, they were going to fire him no matter what.
This was his go-out.
But listen to what he says.
judge andrew napolitano
...process that validates an establishment that never meaningfully changes.
What if that establishment doesn't want and doesn't have the consent of the governed?
What if the two-party system was actually a mechanism used to limit so-called public opinion?
What if there were more than two sides to every issue, but the two parties wanted to box you into a corner, one of their corners?
What if there's no such thing as public opinion, because every thinking person has opinions that are uniquely his own?
What if what we call public opinion was just a manufactured narrative that makes it easier to convince people that if their views are different, then there's something wrong with that or there's something wrong with them?
What if the whole purpose of the Democratic and Republican parties was not to expand voters' choices, but to limit them?
What if the widely perceived differences between the two parties was just an illusion?
What if the heart of the government policy remains the same no matter who's in the White House?
What if the heart of government policy remains the same no matter what the people want?
What if those vaunted differences between Democrat and Republican were actually just minor disagreements?
What if both parties just want power and are willing to have young people fight meaningless wars in order to enhance that power?
What if both parties continue to fight the war on drugs just to give bureaucrats and cops bigger budgets and more jobs?
What if government policies didn't change when government leaders did?
What if no matter who won an election, government stayed the same?
What if government was really a revolving door for political hacks, bent on exploiting the people once they're in charge?
What if both parties supported welfare, war, debt, bailouts and big government?
What if the rhetoric that candidates displayed on the campaign trail was dumped after electoral victory?
What if Barack Obama campaigned as an anti-war, pro-civil liberties candidate and then waged senseless wars while assaulting your rights that the Constitution is supposed to protect?
What if George W. Bush campaigned on a platform of non-intervention and small government, and then waged a foreign policy of muscular military intervention and a domestic policy of vast government borrowing and growth?
What if Bill Clinton declared that the era of big government was over, but actually just convinced Republicans like Newt Gingrich that they can get what they want out of big government too?
What if the Republicans went along with it?
What if Ronald Reagan spent six years running for president, promising to shrink the government, but then the government grew while he was in the White House?
What if, notwithstanding Reagan's ideas and cheerfulness and libertarian rhetoric, there really was no Reagan revolution at all?
What if all this is happening again?
What if Rick Santorum is being embraced by voters who want small government, even though Senator Santorum voted for the Patriot Act, for an expansion of Medicare, and for raising the debt ceiling by trillions of dollars?
What if Mitt Romney is being embraced by voters who want anyone but Barack Obama, but they don't realize that Mitt Romney might as well be Barack Obama on everything from warfare to welfare?
What if Ron Paul is being ignored by the media, not because, as it claims, he's unappealing or unelectable, but because he doesn't fit into the pre-manufactured public opinion mold used by the establishment to pigeonhole the electorate and create the so-called narrative that drives media coverage of elections?
What if the biggest difference between most candidates was not substance, but style?
What if those stylistic differences were packaged as substantive ones to reinforce the illusion of a difference between Democrats and Republicans?
What if Mitt Romney wins and ends up continuing most of the same policies that Barack Obama promoted?
What if Barack Obama's policies too are merely extensions of those from George W. Bush?
What if a government that manipulated us could be fired?
What if a government that lacked the true and knowing consent of the governed could be dismissed?
joe rogan
Now he's getting crazy.
judge andrew napolitano
What if it were possible to have a real game changer?
What if we need a Ron Paul to preserve and protect our freedoms from the government?
tom segura
That's what he got fired for.
judge andrew napolitano
What if we can make elections matter again?
What if we could do something about this?
From New York.
Defending freedom.
Every night of the week.
joe rogan
It's so depressing that we're really in a situation where this is the situation.
unidentified
I know.
joe rogan
We're really stuck here?
This is where we're at.
2012. Was that the final broadcast?
This guy's absolutely right.
I don't know if that was his final broadcast, but it was a very powerful one.
tom segura
It is, yeah.
That is powerful stuff.
brian redban
The other one that he talks about, he makes connections on 9-1-1 with Israeli, like how it's like, It's really weird to actually watch it.
tom segura
What was their reason?
What did they announce was the reason for firing him?
joe rogan
I don't know, man.
I don't think they did.
I think, you know, look, people get fired for all sorts of different things all the time.
I'm not necessarily sure that he got fired because of that.
tom segura
Right.
joe rogan
But that's definitely something he went...
Pretty fucking...
tom segura
And was this guy getting popular?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's popular.
It should be even more popular now.
The things that he said, they're going to take off on the internet.
That video is going to take off on the internet.
It already is, right?
What's the hits on it right now?
brian redban
444,000.
joe rogan
Yeah, and by the way, there's a gang of those.
It's not just that one.
There's a gang of those out there that's not just one person put it up on YouTube.
Yeah, it's fucking powerful shit, man.
He's absolutely right, too.
I mean, how do you fire the government, though?
Let's look.
Yeah.
brian redban
Jesus.
joe rogan
Something's going to happen though.
Something's happening, you know, and I think the government's recognizing it as well, you know.
This is going to be an adjustment.
There's going to be something...
There has to be.
Because otherwise it's a dictatorship.
You know, at a certain point in time when you're really not doing the will of the people at all, and you really are suppressing the people, and you really are taking away liberties, you're really trying to turn us into a fucking crazy dictatorship.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's really not much different than that.
tom segura
I don't know how anybody views this shit without being cynical after you...
joe rogan
After Obama.
tom segura
Well, just after you turn a certain age, I feel like it all, I really do feel like it all doesn't matter, whoever you vote for, that nothing is really going to be different.
You start hearing that when the speeches start coming about, it's time to change Hollywood.
I'm a Washington outsider, and I'm about to go in there.
We're going to change shit up now.
That's the one where you're like, that's not going to happen, man.
unidentified
Yeah.
tom segura
After a certain age, you realize it's not going to happen.
joe rogan
Well, you realize they're not telling you the truth.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
If Obama wanted to say some really radical things, he could have already said it.
And you know, Chris Rock really did this really fascinating interview recently where he said that he thinks that Obama's going to wait until his second term, and then he's going to do some crazy shit.
I'm like...
God, you know, that sounds like your wishful thinking.
You know, that sounds to me like, have you paid attention to what he has done?
Almost irreversible damage.
That National Defense Authorization Act that treats the United States like a battlefield and allows indefinite suspension or detention of American civilians with no warrant?
That's insanity.
You don't need that.
We're not falling apart.
We don't have violence in the streets every day.
We're not in the middle of an Arab Spring situation.
We don't have nuclear bombs dropping on our city.
What the fuck are you doing instigating or pushing forward those kinds of laws and legislation?
The number one thing that we're supposed to be about is the pursuit of liberty.
It's supposed to be liberty and justice for all.
That's how it ends, right?
With liberty and justice for all.
That's what we want.
And you're taking away liberty.
For what?
unidentified
For what?
joe rogan
Is it you giving us extra justice?
Is that what you...
No.
It's bullshit, is what it is.
It's 100% bullshit.
It's not representative of the people.
It's sad, and it's got to change.
Just how does it change?
I don't know.
It scares the shit out of everybody, right?
tom segura
Absolutely, yeah.
brian redban
That judge is on Twitter under Judge Knapp in AP. Oh, really?
Maybe get him on an upcoming podcast.
joe rogan
Do you think so?
brian redban
Maybe.
joe rogan
He'd even talk to us?
brian redban
Sure.
joe rogan
He'd probably lock us in jail.
brian redban
I don't know about that.
joe rogan
Judge Knapp.
brian redban
He uses a good pomade.
tom segura
What's his full name?
What's his name?
joe rogan
Judge Napolitano.
brian redban
Yeah, I call him Nappy Tano because he has a nappy tan.
joe rogan
I'm following him now.
He's only got 55,000 followers.
Freedom Watch.
Yeah.
Cancel that shit.
brian redban
Him and Alex Jones.
We need to get Alex Jones on this podcast also sometime.
joe rogan
Yeah, Alex is going to do it.
He'll do it when he's in LA again.
And Alex is fucking crazy.
If you have Alex on our podcast, you'll get a view as to what's up.
He's right about a lot of shit, man.
I mean, he's a soldier.
He's out there fucking beating the bushes.
See the daily show?
unidentified
He's a daily thing, right?
tom segura
See the daily show?
brian redban
Yeah.
He has a whole studio.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
His studio is pretty fucking impressive.
His show is huge.
It's enormous.
There's a lot of people who listen to it.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's all doom and gloom, though, man.
tom segura
Yeah, I've seen clips of him.
joe rogan
Doom and gloom.
The best show we ever had was the time when Joey Diaz took over.
tom segura
I remember that day.
Boom!
joe rogan
We've talked about it too many times on the podcast to rehash it, but it was one of the most glorious things I've ever seen.
brian redban
Have you ever been the type of person that when you drive around and you see a hot chick, you'll wink at them or give them kissy faces or anything?
joe rogan
No.
brian redban
Lately I've been doing it more.
joe rogan
Really?
brian redban
Just because I realized...
Because I realize you pretty much can do that and you'll never see that person ever again.
They'll never know who you are.
joe rogan
Yeah, but you're putting out a creeper feel.
brian redban
No, but I don't do creepy ones.
I'd just be making silly faces at them.
joe rogan
Oh, God, that's even worse.
They don't even know you and you're making silly faces?
brian redban
It's just funny seeing people's reactions.
joe rogan
I love it.
tom segura
There's a lot of fear that you're generating.
joe rogan
Yeah, you're putting out some bad huju out there, bro.
brian redban
It's mostly laughter.
joe rogan
Mostly laughter.
tom segura
They'll laugh?
brian redban
Yeah, yeah.
tom segura
Oh, that's good.
brian redban
Yeah, it's just like they look over like, what the fuck?
What the fuck's going on over here?
joe rogan
Yeah, probably.
So you just decided to be a creep at this age?
brian redban
Yeah, I don't know why I started.
I think it's because I saw somebody do it to somebody else once and I was like, that's hilarious.
That person just made that person laugh and then drove off and never to see that person again.
joe rogan
Have you ever been around the one guy who can't not hit on a chick?
You know that guy?
Who you're hanging out with him and you can't even hang out with him because they'll just abandon you for a chick.
tom segura
Yeah.
I remember when I was in an apartment in Hollywood when I was like 21, 22, and had some friends come out, and one of the guys was that guy who just can't stop.
So when I went to bed, I had my bedroom, we had like three friends in the living room and one girl.
We had all gone to school together.
And I offered her, I was like, you can sleep in my bed, not in a creep way, but you can do that.
joe rogan
But like, I'll fuck you.
tom segura
Like, I'm going to try, but I'm not going to make it like...
So, anyways, she was like, nah, I'm good.
I'll sleep out here.
And I was like, alright.
Like, you know, fine.
And then, like, five minutes later, I got, like, a knock on the door.
And I was like, what's up?
And she's there, and she was like, yeah, he just tried to lick my neck when I went to sleep.
And I was like, you want to sleep in here now?
She was like, yeah.
And I was like, okay, that's cool.
And I wasn't a creep, though.
joe rogan
You didn't try to fuck her?
Did you try to spoon her at all?
tom segura
I think so.
joe rogan
Ooh, spooning's nice.
tom segura
I think I got the, like, You got a SWAT? I think so.
joe rogan
She SWATed you like, get off me?
tom segura
It definitely didn't happen.
brian redban
Wow, she came for comfort and then you just...
tom segura
No, I didn't molest her.
joe rogan
Did she cuddle with you at all?
tom segura
No, I think it was very much like...
Because when somebody just is leaving, she was just leaving, that shit was really uncomfortable.
I wasn't going to be like, let me extend that feeling for you.
joe rogan
But you try to settle into a new level of comfort and then creep slowly towards the darkness.
tom segura
Honestly, I can tell you this, man.
There's a lot of times when I was single that I didn't pursue that stuff because I was too tired.
joe rogan
Because you're too tired.
tom segura
I would just go to sleep.
joe rogan
Why is that?
Why are you so tired?
tom segura
No, I mean, like, when it was late at night, like, I was the...
joe rogan
And there's a hot chick with you.
tom segura
I'd be like, yeah, I'm gonna go to sleep.
unidentified
Whoa.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's weird.
tom segura
Yeah, but I mean, not like...
joe rogan
You ever got your thyroid checked out?
tom segura
No, but I'm saying that alcohol, alcohol...
joe rogan
Oh, alcohol.
Yeah, your B12. Yeah, alcohol...
tom segura
Not sober.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's nothing sadder than having a whiskey dick.
tom segura
Friday, Saturday night, I'd be like, I'd make a totally potential college thing.
I'd be like, I think I'm going to go to sleep right now.
That sounds like the best thing.
brian redban
I just got my thyroid checked.
I just got a physical using the same doctor as Tommy.
It's so funny.
joe rogan
Why don't you yeah that?
tom segura
Because he's the fucking best doctor.
joe rogan
The doctor's awesome.
Oh, I thought you were yelling about Brian getting a physical.
tom segura
No, no, no.
unidentified
Yeah!
Yeah!
tom segura
I love medical shit.
brian redban
Did he check your asshole out?
Because he didn't...
He skipped my asshole.
I was like...
I mean, I cleaned it for hours, you know?
tom segura
For hours?
joe rogan
Was it a toothbrush?
brian redban
Huh?
No, I did one of those things that scratch your asshole.
joe rogan
Scratch it like a maxi pad?
brian redban
No, those lupas.
joe rogan
A lufa sponge?
unidentified
Really?
You lufa'd it?
brian redban
Lufa'd.
I lufa'd my asshole.
I scratched it all up.
joe rogan
What about the inside?
That's the important part.
brian redban
No, no, no.
I didn't do anything.
But I did test...
When I was in the shower, I was testing like, all right, this is what it's kind of going to be like...
joe rogan
No, you put a finger on your ass.
brian redban
So what are they looking for?
joe rogan
Bumps?
tom segura
Well, they didn't do it.
brian redban
He didn't do it.
joe rogan
What are they reaching in?
Yeah, I think a bump.
brian redban
See, I was most concerned about my asshole, too.
So I'm really kind of upset that he didn't.
joe rogan
Why were you most concerned about it?
brian redban
Because I think that's where the most death would be from.
Most death?
Would be from asshole stuff.
joe rogan
But you smoked cigarettes.
Wouldn't you worry about lungs?
brian redban
No, but I just...
You worry about your eyes.
I have weird ass issues.
unidentified
Really?
brian redban
We've talked about that.
But he did feel my balls up, which was weird.
He's just rolling them in his hand.
He goes, yep, that's fine.
joe rogan
Did you think that maybe if he jerked you off, you could come?
brian redban
No, no.
tom segura
My dick is so small when it gets checked, when I get the ball checked.
But I almost want to point it out.
I almost want to be like, every time I get a physical, I want to be like, you should see it some other time.
It's a little better than that.
brian redban
When he checked my cock, he did the thing where he had to pull it out.
Kind of like one of those old hippie guitar strings where you hold the thing.
He pulled it out and looked at it.
Then he took all these blood tests.
He's testing me for everything.
Then he's like, so you want to do all STDs?
I'm like, yeah, might as well.
I'm dating a porn star.
He goes, oh, you are?
He goes, all right, we can do that.
joe rogan
Brian just offers it on me to talk to him.
Well, you know how it is when you're dating a porn star.
brian redban
Well, he said, he's like, well, you should be fine because they get tested every 20 days.
And I'm like, yep, that's exactly a bit in my act.
And he's like, oh, you mooch off her test.
And I'm like, yep, exactly.
He's a funny doctor.
This guy's really good.
And he said, tell Tom, you know, start sending some hot chicks.
And I said...
And I said something really...
joe rogan
Let's not say his name on the air, because that might be a bit unethical.
brian redban
No, but when we were in the waiting room, I just paid and everything like that, and I'm about to walk out, and he goes, well, it's good seeing you, Brian.
Tell Tom.
unidentified
I said hi.
brian redban
And I'm like, okay, I'm sorry I'm not hot for you, or something like that.
And it came out when everyone in the room was like, what the fuck?
And then I'm like, I'm sorry, I'm not pretty enough.
Never mind.
unidentified
God, get out of here.
joe rogan
An old Brian moment at the doctor's.
tom segura
That is hilarious.
brian redban
Everybody in that room probably had no idea what was going on.
joe rogan
So what did he say about your lungs and cigarettes and stuff like that?
brian redban
He said everything was perfect.
That was good.
Perfect.
Now they're doing the blood test.
tom segura
I would like to second that evaluation.
joe rogan
What do they check when they check your lungs?
brian redban
They make you...
joe rogan
For cancer and that's it?
brian redban
They just make you do huge deep breaths while they listen all up and down your chest and your back.
joe rogan
How long does it take for you to die from cigarettes?
tom segura
I don't know, man.
brian redban
It really matters, I think, if you have cancer in your family, and I don't have cancer in my family.
joe rogan
Some people, like, genetically just don't get it?
tom segura
I think so, man.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, there's always stories, right?
tom segura
Oh, I know a friend's grandparents who lived into their 90s and smoked and drank and ate red meat, and they just died.
They didn't die of cancer.
They died of old age.
joe rogan
Well, they had a good time.
That's why they were smiling.
tom segura
Yep.
I'm loving it, man.
Drinking every day.
joe rogan
There was something that I read once, I don't know if it's documented, but that 100% of all people that live to be over 100 eat red meat.
brian redban
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
There's never been a documented case of a vegetarian that lives to be over 100. That could be total horseshit.
You fucking crazy vegans, don't you text me about this.
Don't you tweet me.
Vegans are the quickest to the fucking tweet.
The angry tweet.
The angry dietary tweet.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
They are.
tom segura
And they're quick as the diarrhea, too.
joe rogan
Quick as the diarrhea?
tom segura
I think so.
joe rogan
A lot of fiber involved.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
tom segura
You're going to be really shitting with that vegan diet.
joe rogan
I love a fucking good vegan meal, though.
I love vegetable meals.
I drink that kale shake every day.
That's fantastic for you, man.
tom segura
I have a kale salad a few times a week from a place nearby.
joe rogan
It's hard to get grass-fed meat these days, man.
Apparently all of it's getting consumed up in Northern California.
All the hippies up there love it.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
tom segura
All natural grass meat, yeah.
joe rogan
It's way better for you.
You just go to Whole Foods and you don't have it?
No, they're out of it a lot.
Yeah.
Because up north, look, there's only a certain amount of people that are growing grass-fed meat, and it's become super popular lately.
Wow.
So all these, you know, it's more popular in Berkeley and San Francisco, I'm sure, than down here in Retardville.
They can sell all their cows up there.
Why ship them all the way down to Los Angeles?
They're having an issue.
Last Tuesday, the Whole Foods near me didn't even get a ship in a grass-fed meat.
I have to go there on Tuesday to get the meat.
unidentified
It's crazy.
joe rogan
That's the only time they have it.
tom segura
You taste the difference?
joe rogan
Fuck yeah.
100%.
It's a totally different meat.
It's a totally different animal.
Because the cow that is raised on corn, they're fat fucks.
They're marbled and it's really delicious.
It's really, really fucking yummy.
Because all that fat gets like a ribeye from a corn.
Corn-raised cow is great because it's so juicy, but it's not quite as healthy for you.
And it doesn't taste the same.
When you get a grass-fed ribeye, there's much less marbling, and you've got to cook it quicker because it'll dry out.
There's much less fat in it.
So you sort of sear it.
tom segura
You're getting a better piece you need, though.
joe rogan
God damn, it's good, though.
unidentified
Woo!
joe rogan
It's totally different.
It's almost like a gamey animal.
Not gamey.
It tastes better.
It tastes like you're eating a healthy animal.
tom segura
There's some steaks I've had where I'm like, oh man, you can feel your body kind of slowing down.
joe rogan
Grass-fed beef, though, is supposed to be way healthier for you, too.
It's something about the actual animal being healthy.
I know a lot of fighters have switched to grass-fed meat recently.
My buddy Einstein, who listens to this all the time, is one of Eddie's black belts, said his performance really started increasing when he upped his greens and unchanged to all grass-fed meat.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
It's a big difference.
Yeah, it's just healthier.
It just makes sense that your body would respond better if you're eating healthier animals.
unidentified
Yeah.
tom segura
It does make sense.
joe rogan
We're fucking up, man.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
We're fucking up our goddamn...
tom segura
And eat your veggies and fruits.
joe rogan
We're fucking up our goddamn Monsanto fruits and vegetables.
tom segura
It's crazy, man.
joe rogan
Fat-fucked cows and our farm-grown fish because all the fish in the ocean are dead.
tom segura
Yeah, man.
joe rogan
You know, they said that the next hundred years is going to be the last wild fish in the world.
And within the next hundred years, there will be no more wild fish in the oceans.
unidentified
What?
Yep.
joe rogan
We'll have outfished the entire ocean.
brian redban
We use a melody company to also say that.
joe rogan
No, they think about it from an exponential growth point of view, that there'll be more people in 100 years.
Think about 100 years ago, there was only like a billion people on the planet.
Now there's 7 billion.
It's crazy.
What's it going to be 100 years from now?
Is it going to be 30 billion?
Where are they going to get all their protein from?
A lot of it's going to be fish.
It's easy to catch.
They're going to fucking just troll everything.
They're going to suck all that fucking fish out of there.
They're going to eat whales.
They're going to do everything they can eat.
Everything that humans can consume.
And then a hundred years from now, we're going to have to figure it out.
tom segura
It'll just be an empty ocean.
joe rogan
That would be crazy.
tom segura
That would be crazy.
joe rogan
Could you imagine if we actually kill everything in the ocean within a thousand years?
tom segura
That'd be amazing.
joe rogan
If people lived to be a thousand years, why is that outside the realm of possibility?
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
There was something I tweeted earlier today about the garbage patch.
Some lady went to the garbage patch that's in the middle of the Pacific Ocean.
For folks who don't know, bigger than Texas.
There's a giant hunk of garbage, all plastic, that's kind of caught together in this one swarm.
It's caught up, I guess, in the way the tides go.
There's one area where it's collected, where it's enormous.
It's bigger than the state of Texas, which takes more than a day to drive through.
So that's how much garbage is out there.
And it's just getting bigger.
It's going to keep getting bigger.
tom segura
Forever.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian redban
Is that a homeless person's heaven?
You think they all talk about it as if it's like Disney World?
joe rogan
Magic going there.
unidentified
Magic going there.
You never only had a plastic.
joe rogan
I think the plastic breaks down though.
I think that's part of the issue is that the salt water breaks it down to like jelly, like little particles.
And it's really fucked.
It's not like just like stuff floating that you can scoop up.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
It becomes like almost liquid.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's fucked up, man.
It's like we're so creepy.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Think about what we do.
We kill all the rhinos, we fuck the ocean over, we eat all the fish, we throw all our garbage in it.
tom segura
You would drive by trash, what are they called?
Trash plants?
joe rogan
Oh yeah, sure.
tom segura
Landfills.
joe rogan
Landfills.
tom segura
Yeah, and you see how they're at a higher altitude than the street level.
That's just going to keep growing.
That's going to be like a building of garbage.
It's like mountains, like hills.
joe rogan
Stanhope and I filmed the finale of the man show in a garbage dump.
tom segura
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, because the girls were trying to con us into taking them to an island.
There was two of the girls that were in the old man show, and we didn't get along with them so well.
And they were like, Adam and Jimmy used to take us to the Bahamas.
We should do that.
You should take us to the Bahamas.
We'll film the final scene there.
And then we thought about it, and Doug and I were like, we should do it at a garbage shop.
And I was like, well, you think about it, man.
I wanted to do it in a garbage dump in New Jersey.
I wanted to do it in the stinkiest, grossest dump.
I said, you know, if you're at home and you're watching us, these two assholes, hang out with girls who never fuck you in a place where you can never afford to go to, well, how's that fun for you?
I go, it would be much more fun for you to watch us in a dump.
tom segura
Sure.
It's so much funnier, too.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's what I felt like.
They were so mad at us.
It was gross.
In their defense, it was gross.
tom segura
It's really funny that they asked for it, though, first.
They were like, what's up with the Bahamas?
joe rogan
Yeah, they wanted to go.
tom segura
Garbage dump.
joe rogan
Well, you know, I don't blame them, man.
That culture, the hot chick culture of asking for things, and they would rub the writers' shoulders, and You're going to put us in a scene?
You know, that kind of thing.
unidentified
Yeah.
tom segura
That's gross shit, though.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, that was the culture of it.
Yeah.
There was a lot of grossness going on.
tom segura
Sure.
joe rogan
None of it was as gross as that garbage dump.
We made up for all of it.
tom segura
That shit was fucking foul.
joe rogan
It's so bad.
We were eating lunch and there's fucking garbage dust floating in the air.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It was on Catalina.
Catalina has a giant garbage dump.
tom segura
Do they really?
joe rogan
Yep.
Enormous.
tom segura
That's kind of a trip to that whole...
joe rogan
It's a bummer, man.
tom segura
That whole society there.
joe rogan
I think a lot of our garbage goes out there.
tom segura
That sucks.
joe rogan
Yeah, it does suck.
Catalina, for folks who don't know, is an island outside of the coast of Los Angeles.
tom segura
Yeah, 14 miles off the coast.
joe rogan
14?
brian redban
I've never gone in.
Do you recommend it?
joe rogan
It's pretty dope.
Yeah, it's cool, man.
tom segura
There's no cars driving around.
Just golf carts and shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's weird.
It's big enough that you could actually live there, though.
tom segura
You can go on a ferry or a helicopter.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tom segura
I took the helicopter.
brian redban
Really?
joe rogan
Maybe that's where we should put our compound.
tom segura
The next year, that helicopter company crashed.
joe rogan
Really?
tom segura
Yeah.
Fuck helicopters.
joe rogan
And somebody died?
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
Jesus.
brian redban
Fuck helicopters.
joe rogan
It would have been you though, right?
tom segura
Nah.
unidentified
Nah.
tom segura
Not me, man.
unidentified
You can't stop me.
tom segura
No, but you can't hold me down.
unidentified
Y'all can't see me.
joe rogan
Not me, bro.
I'll tell you what, man.
Fuck that helicopter.
tom segura
Fuck that shit.
unidentified
I'll grab that fucking propeller with my hand and I'll spin it myself.
tom segura
Plus, I got heart.
I got a lot of heart you can't measure.
joe rogan
You can't fuck with my heart, bro.
It ain't the size of the dog in the fight.
It's the size of the fight in the dog.
tom segura
That's what it is.
This dog can hunt.
joe rogan
Would you live in Catalina?
What if we got a giant piece of land in Catalina and that's where we set up our compound?
brian redban
I'd have to check it out first because I don't like not having Best Buys and things like that.
joe rogan
It's totally true.
We should seriously look into a good place where we can all move.
Just everybody.
Outside of LA but close enough, we'll just get a giant chunk of land, get a few hundred acres.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
All of us build houses there.
Do you know how dope that would be if we could have our own M. Night Shyamalama ding-dongs in the village?
tom segura
That'd be awesome.
Can we have a lake?
I like lakes.
joe rogan
Yes!
How cool would it be, for real, if we all, we got everyone that we know that's cool, and we decided we're all going to invest in some property and build houses there.
tom segura
Yeah, and all your friends live in the neighborhood.
joe rogan
It'd be fucking awesome.
If you lived down the street and Kreischer was there, and you could hear Eddie Bravo lived up the hill.
unidentified
That was a bear window.
joe rogan
Brian lived down the hill, and Duncan lived over there, and Ari lives over there.
That would be fucking awesome.
That's how fucking cults get started, though.
That's what happens.
tom segura
Yeah, and that would actually be the most fun.
We talk about it, Christina and I, because she also loves Bert's wife.
joe rogan
Really?
tom segura
In what way?
joe rogan
In that way?
tom segura
You know what's up.
It's Valentine's Day.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
By the way, I just realized I'm doing a fucking 420 show.
I'm doing a 420 show in Atlanta.
Where's that place I'm doing it, Brian?
Is it on my Twitter thing?
brian redban
It just says LandJar on your Twitter.
joe rogan
It doesn't want to pull up on my laptop.
It looks weird, man, when I try looking at...
brian redban
What are you doing on 420?
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm doing some...
tom segura
Nice!
joe rogan
I'm doing someplace in Atlanta.
tom segura
Some high times?
joe rogan
420, though.
It's 420. That'd be awesome.
I've never done a 420 show on purpose.
brian redban
It's called the Tabernacle?
joe rogan
Tabernacle, you fucking idiot.
I did one.
brian redban
Jesus Christ!
Jesus Christ!
unidentified
It's called the Tabernacle.
joe rogan
You fucking silly goose.
tom segura
You are a silly goose.
joe rogan
You might be the silliest goose of all gooses.
brian redban
Tabernacle.
joe rogan
Yeah, but that's on 420. I want to do my special there, but I don't know if I have enough time.
But it would be the place to do it because the Atlanta fucking crowds are awesome.
unidentified
Awesome.
joe rogan
By the way, one of the most underrated cities in the country.
tom segura
For sure.
joe rogan
And they have a great comedy community.
They do.
Yeah, the Punchline Atlanta has a great community.
tom segura
I love the Laughing Skull.
joe rogan
I haven't been.
I heard that's great, too.
I heard that's great, too.
tom segura
Laughing Skull is at the Vortex.
I think that's in Midtown.
And that's like, it's seat 74, 75. So it's like the Ice House.
It's like the second stage.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
Yes.
Dude.
tom segura
And that is a great, it's one of my favorite clubs to play.
joe rogan
Are we doing the Ice House Friday?
brian redban
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
Yeah, by the way, folks, we try to do the Ice House whenever I'm in town.
March is going to be the shit.
We're going to do a gang of them in March because I'm home a lot in March.
unidentified
Me too.
joe rogan
We're going to have a lot of fucking Ice House shows.
We're going to do a lot of full weekends, Friday and Saturdays, whenever we can.
But Tommy Buns will be involved in this.
tom segura
Yeah, man.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah.
unidentified
Next week, I'm actually recording my new album.
Oh, that's right!
joe rogan
And you're going to be doing it at the Comedy Works in Denver, which is one of the greatest clubs in the history of the fucking moon universe.
tom segura
There's two clubs.
I'm doing the South Club.
joe rogan
That's great also.
tom segura
Yes.
joe rogan
That's awesome, too.
That's a bigger place.
We have a balcony.
brian redban
Yeah, they do.
tom segura
If you are in Denver...
brian redban
I hid weed there, too.
joe rogan
When is it?
unidentified
December 24th?
joe rogan
Yeah, we hid weed somewhere in that place.
unidentified
Oh, really?
joe rogan
Yes.
tom segura
Look, guys.
joe rogan
We're going to find it next time we go back.
tom segura
Come to my show and look for the weed.
joe rogan
And where...
Did I say December?
Yeah, you did.
brian redban
Oh, wow.
tom segura
It's not December, guys.
unidentified
Summertime!
tom segura
It is this month, which is February, right?
joe rogan
February.
tom segura
And it's Friday the 24th and Saturday the 25th.
joe rogan
Okay, beautiful.
tom segura
I'm recording a new album at the Comedy Works South.
I tweeted a link if you go to...
joe rogan
Tom Segura, S-E-G-U-R-A. Yeah, you gotta go.
tom segura
Come out, it'll be fucking so much fun.
joe rogan
If you've never seen Tommy, he's way funnier as a stand-up than he is talking on a podcast.
Don't be...
Don't be confused.
You go, wow, he's kind of monotone.
He's kind of sexy.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
I find his voice sexy.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Hey, you told me...
So anyway, folks, 24th, 25th, 26th?
tom segura
No, just 24th, 25th.
I mean, I'm there 23rd to 25th, but the recording is the 24th and 25th.
Who's putting out your CD? Well, that's actually one of the things I'm actually thinking of doing it myself.
joe rogan
Do it.
Do it yourself.
We'll pump the shit out of it up here.
tom segura
That's what I want to do.
joe rogan
Folks, for real, Tommy's hilarious.
You know, Tom and I met a long time ago when I was doing the Maxim tour with Charlie Murphy and John Heffron.
And what we'd do is we'd go to these different places and they would have like a local guy open up for us.
Everyone that opened up for us was really funny.
It was really good like local talent because it was the Maxim Bud Light comedy tour and they really did a good job of casting the local guys.
But when we did Phoenix, Tommy wasn't even local, just somehow or another he got involved in this.
And he was one of those guys where he went up and I went, holy shit, I go, this guy is fucking funny.
And it was dark and it was really well written and We became besties.
unidentified
Yeah, we became besties, man.
joe rogan
Ever since then.
tom segura
That was fun.
And that's actually the thing I was telling you is that every time I've opened for you since then, your crowds are always the shit.
They're awesome.
So that's why I'm totally pleading to...
The Joe Rogan fans, come out.
You guys are always an amazing audience.
joe rogan
Colorado's my place.
Everybody knows that.
I fucking love Colorado.
If I could convince my fucking crazy wife, eventually I will be back in Colorado.
tom segura
Colorado's the shit.
joe rogan
That place calls me.
I'll be back.
That club, Wendy, is awesome.
She's my favorite club owner in the history of club owners.
tom segura
She's the shit.
joe rogan
She is awesome.
She owns and runs both of them.
She's just a badass woman.
Cool as fuck.
Real fan of comedy.
A real friend of comedy.
She has an open mic program that's better than anybody's in the country or anybody's I've ever been involved with ever in my whole time in comedy.
tom segura
When you do Comedy Works, you'll work with different people through the weekend, right?
Different people in each show.
And all their local guys that will open for you are all headliners.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're great.
tom segura
You have just headliners opening for you.
joe rogan
They're great.
unidentified
They're great.
tom segura
The whole show is fucking dope.
joe rogan
She takes care of guys.
She pays them well.
Her food is great, especially in South.
South, she has a gourmet restaurant there.
Oh, Jesus.
It's fucking phenomenal.
tom segura
It's really good.
joe rogan
Goddamn, I love Colorado.
It's snowing as fuck there, though.
80 degrees here.
Suck it!
Suck it!
Yeah.
But snow is awesome when you don't have to go anywhere.
Remember those times when you go out your back porch and you just fucking hear nothing?
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because it's snowing.
The way sound just gets absorbed in snow.
tom segura
Yeah.
I love that snow.
joe rogan
It's some great fucking times, man.
tom segura
I just don't want to live in it, but I do like visiting snow.
joe rogan
I like visiting it, too.
I would like to get a house somewhere where it's cold, you know, where I could visit on occasion.
And, you know, I just have to get some more baller money.
But now I'm fucked because it looks like Fear Factor's gonna fucking bite it.
unidentified
What?
Why?
joe rogan
Looks like it's over.
unidentified
Really?
I thought it was, like, some of the best ratings NBC has.
joe rogan
Huge ratings.
Huge ratings.
brian redban
You just dropped that much down?
joe rogan
Well, there's a bunch of issues.
I think one of the issues is, let's be honest, it's a bit low, bro.
And NBC is trying to have quality programming like The Office.
tom segura
Are you serious?
joe rogan
I think so.
Yeah, I think there's issues.
tom segura
Even if the numbers aren't great?
joe rogan
Yeah, they haven't decided yet.
Look, they've got a point, man.
I see what you're trying to do.
No hating.
I love doing it just because I love the guys that I work with.
I love David Hurwitz and Matt Kunitz and Rupert and all the people that are...
brian redban
That doesn't make sense at all.
joe rogan
Rupert Thompson, the director...
All the people that I worked with were really fucking awesome people.
They're really fun to be around.
It's like a family.
And I miss them, you know, the five years that I didn't work with them.
And then I'm working with them again for this really short season.
It was really fun.
But it's not my favorite thing to do.
I'm good at it.
I've been doing it for a long time.
I know how to host a game show, but I prefer doing stand-up and working for the UFC in this.
brian redban
They should move that show to HBO, have nudity, like you're eating fucking fish from girls' vaginas.
joe rogan
Nah, I think it's over.
And, you know, the other thing was, like, I was telling them that the donkey loads were too much.
I was like, you can't do this.
We can't do this.
Like, NBC approved it.
NBC approved it.
And I was like, just because they approved it doesn't mean you should be doing this.
unidentified
Like, seriously.
Really?
tom segura
You could see that?
joe rogan
When I'm the voice of reason, when I'm the one who's telling you we're going too far.
tom segura
That's it, yeah.
joe rogan
Like, what is happening here?
It's just, they got a little crazy.
They wanted to have an awesome show.
Yeah.
brian redban
Whatever.
joe rogan
It was a fun thing while it lasted.
And I honestly believe that these new episodes were better than any of the ones we ever did before.
brian redban
I enjoyed it.
I don't see anything wrong with it.
I think it's silly that NBC wouldn't do that because all their other shows are hurt and bad.
They suck.
That Whitney show has got horrible ratings.
joe rogan
I watched it the other day.
It was not good.
But it's hard.
It's hard to do a good sitcom.
It's hard to do it right.
I heard she's a funny stand-up.
I've never seen her perform before.
But I heard that Chris DeLee is a funny comic as well.
He's buddies with Brian.
I've never seen him perform as well.
So how is it that they can have two really funny people and not have a funny show?
A lot of times it's just too many cooks in the kitchen.
A lot of times they're trying to accomplish something.
They're trying to get a vibe going.
They're trying to find their footing.
They believe in it, though, because they renewed it.
They renewed it for another season.
unidentified
Oh, did they?
tom segura
They're both funny people.
They both are funny people.
joe rogan
Well, it takes a while, man.
I really enjoyed my time on news radio, but I got a real deep respect for the craft of creating a television show.
And that's one of the reasons why I never did it again.
One of the reasons why I never did it again was, first of all, I knew that the guys that I was working with were incredibly talented.
And it's such...
Paul Sims, the executive producer, was such an interesting and intelligent guy, and his sensibilities were so out there.
I knew that after working with him, it was going to be really hard to do another sort of sitcom, a real mainstream, even if it's a successful one.
It's hard to do crap.
tom segura
You realize how much writing is everything.
joe rogan
Everything.
It's everything.
tom segura
You see these shows that are so good and you're like, holy shit.
joe rogan
I shouldn't say it's everything because good writing with shit delivery and shit comics and shit actors is not good either.
But it's a huge part of the problem.
unidentified
It is.
joe rogan
Part of the equation, rather.
And you need real eccentrics to write.
I mean, one of the things that these guys were...
There's a couple of them that were stand-ups that were on the staff.
But for the most part, they were just really bright, silly guys who knew how to put together something funny.
It's fucking...
For every Matt Stone and Trey Parker, there's a hundred pretenders.
At least.
tom segura
At least.
Many more.
joe rogan
You can get caught on one of those sitcoms where you're reading the script and you're like, what the fuck am I doing, man?
tom segura
Yeah.
unidentified
Ugh!
tom segura
There's those intangibles too, like a show airs and sometimes it just gets legs.
People are drawn to it, you know?
And then sometimes you feel like everything's right, like we got the right scripts are great, we got great actors.
joe rogan
Every now and then.
tom segura
People don't respond to it, man.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, a lot of times it's who's the production company and what kind of pull they have with the network and where they decide to put the show.
But I would definitely do another acting gig.
I really enjoyed doing that movie with Kevin James, the Zookeeper movie.
That was a lot of fun.
But it was mostly fun because Kevin and I have been friends since we were really young and to do a movie, even though it was a silly kids movie.
unidentified
Yeah, it was fun.
joe rogan
It's fun to act.
It was fun to do the thing with Leslie Bibb and the chick from Talladega Nights.
I was like, this is kind of crazy.
I'm acting with a girl from Talladega Nights.
and I hadn't done any acting in fucking 10 years yeah so it was weird that was fun I I would totally do something like that.
I would totally do a sitcom or something fun acting again, but for the most part, one of the weirdest things about being a comic is that everybody wants to put you into some acting situation where you're going to do something that's not nearly as funny as your act.
tom segura
That's true.
Yeah, or you can see it when you audition.
You ever punch it up, or you change it, you'll add something, and you'll be like, that was really funny.
And you're like, well, yeah, I kind of have to do this a lot.
joe rogan
Yeah, sometimes.
Sometimes they get mad.
tom segura
Oh, I got yelled at one time, too.
joe rogan
What'd they say?
tom segura
The guy laughed, and then we did it again, and he was like, that's just rude, man.
And I was like, what?
He was like, that's rude.
And he meant it was rude that I tagged the line.
I made up a line.
unidentified
Whoa.
tom segura
And he laughed the first time, and then he was like, it's really rude.
You need to drop that.
And I was like.
unidentified
Whoa.
tom segura
What?
joe rogan
Fuck him.
tom segura
He fucked me up so badly.
Then we did the third take and I was like, yeah, okay.
I didn't even move my face.
joe rogan
What?
A weak bitch.
tom segura
Yeah, and I was like, you just laughed at it, man.
Everybody laughed at it.
joe rogan
That's 100% ego right there.
tom segura
Yeah.
He wasn't even the...
He was just a casting guy.
He wasn't a director or the producer on it.
He was just like...
joe rogan
Well, he's trying to fuck you then.
You know, whatever it was.
Saying it's rude.
He's an idiot.
That was one of the coolest things about news radio is that Paul Simms would let us make up entire scenes.
If a scene didn't work, Dave Foley was like the secret producer.
On the set, he would just rewrite a scene.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
He would completely do it differently.
Dave Foley's a genius.
His ability to see scenes and see jokes and see his sketch background from Kids in the Hall.
He created a lot of sketches.
He's a great writer.
tom segura
Awesome.
joe rogan
He got off track with his life and had a lot of hard times.
We had him on the podcast once talk about it.
It's a fascinating, fascinating story of caution, a cautionary tale of what could happen if you're involved in a terrible relationship and it goes wrong and you have a spiteful ex-wife.
Poor guy, man.
It's really horrendous.
And that led to all sorts of other issues as well.
But as a writer and as a guy, as a comedian, he's a genius.
tom segura
Just a talented guy.
joe rogan
Brilliant.
Just a brilliant, really interesting, funny guy.
Really smart guy.
brian redban
We should get him back on.
He was great.
joe rogan
Yeah, I'd love to have him back on to help his comedy because I haven't heard anything about him.
Have you heard him?
brian redban
I saw him driving one day, and that's the last I saw him.
That's a sad driver.
joe rogan
Well, I know that he had some setbacks.
I mean, he can't go to Canada at all.
If he goes to Canada, they'll arrest him now.
tom segura
That's crazy.
joe rogan
Yeah, he owes some crazy amount of money.
Then he had a show that took off for a little while.
The pilot got picked up, then it got canceled.
tom segura
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, I think I saw that.
I saw a commercial for it.
joe rogan
It's a hard fucking world, dude.
tom segura
It is, dude.
joe rogan
The world of trying to create a sitcom is not fun.
tom segura
No.
joe rogan
And the odds of you...
And there's so many people out there trying to do it.
tom segura
Yeah, I've written a couple.
joe rogan
Have you?
tom segura
I've written a couple scripts, yeah.
Pilots.
Yeah.
And it's like...
I don't know.
joe rogan
The other thing is...
tom segura
It comes naturally.
It's brain.
You're just pulling your hair out and then you rewrite it so many times and then some reason they're like, yeah.
You need to make some more changes.
You're like, I've already written it fucking 40 times.
joe rogan
Well, not only that, by the way, they will never let you create your own show.
tom segura
Right.
joe rogan
Because if you create your own show, you own the show.
And if you own the show, that's fucking billions.
They have that thing locked down.
The only people who can own shows and be showrunners and be executives, those people are already deep, deep, deep in the business.
There's very little room for some new guy who creates his own show.
You have to be paired up with some dude who's already...
They know what's at stake there.
tom segura
You're not doing your own thing.
joe rogan
Yeah, you can't just come to them independently and say, Hey, NBC, my name's Tom Segura.
Me and my buddy, we wrote a sitcom.
I'm going to be the creator and executive producer, and he's going to be the director.
Is that cool with you?
Yeah, you guys are creative.
Come on in.
No way, because that's a money train.
They're giving you a free ticket on the money train.
You get some Roseanne-style syndication money or Seinfeld syndication money.
They know what's involved in that in a successful show.
So they got that situation all locked up.
That's one of the reasons why so many of those shows suck.
They got the same dudes feeding people the same slop.
If you look at the showrunners of certain hit shows, there's like two and a half men.
That dude does a gang of them.
The one that Charlie Sheen was brawling with.
That guy does the fucking Big Bang.
tom segura
Yeah, he's a fucking fool.
joe rogan
Mike and Molly.
tom segura
That's his too.
Imagine what that guy makes.
joe rogan
Ridiculous money.
Yeah, he's got it locked up.
tom segura
Wow.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tom segura
Yeah.
That dude owns hits.
Television hits.
joe rogan
Wouldn't you have loved to see the arguments with him and Charlie Sheen on DVD? Wouldn't it be great if somebody filmed them?
If somebody on the Two and a Half Men set filmed some of the arguments?
brian redban
I'm sure they have that.
joe rogan
Fuck.
I wish I would love to see that.
brian redban
We just have to wait until they all die.
joe rogan
Egos, man.
I think that's the guy who also got...
Do you remember Brett Butler?
Do you remember her?
Do you remember when she was a big TV star?
She had that show.
tom segura
Yeah, she had a show.
joe rogan
What was the show?
tom segura
But I remember her.
joe rogan
What the fuck was that show?
God damn it.
tom segura
Was it a Brett Butler show?
joe rogan
No, no, no, no, no.
Raging something.
brian redban
Something.
Caroline...
joe rogan
No.
Fuck, man.
Grace Under Fire.
brian redban
Grace Under Fire.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Grace Under Fire.
Well, she was like, she was, you know, she was fucking big time, man.
You know, she was the star of a sitcom.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
And she apparently just got crazy ego bullshit went through.
And she threw a soda in his face and said, if you fuck your wife the same way you write, no wonder why she left you.
brian redban
Whoa!
joe rogan
Yeah, and that was it.
They pulled the plug on that bitch.
brian redban
Now she's homeless.
joe rogan
Yeah, now she's vanished off the face of the earth.
I mean, she was an enormous star, dude.
She was enormous, man.
And she was also an enormous star as a stand-up comedian.
She was really charismatic.
brian redban
Have you seen the homeless picture of her?
She was on an interview the other day.
For real homeless?
joe rogan
Yeah, for real homeless.
brian redban
They interviewed her, and she looks like she hit a wall.
joe rogan
Dude, pull that up.
I want to see this video.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
It says the Golden Globe-nominated actress who struggled with drug addiction went broke after 1993 to 1998 sitcom ended its run on ABC. Oh my god, she looks crazy.
Brett Butler, two Ts, one T in Butler.
Oh my god, the actress...
A Golden Globe nominee for a role in the 1993-1998 comedy series struggled with substance abuse while starring on the show, which was in the top ten for two seasons.
The Chuck Lorre created show was canceled in 1998 after she was asked to leave the set because of her drug use.
Yeah, she threw a drink in his face.
My friend was working on the set.
He also worked on one of the shows that I worked on, on news radio, and he said, you know, he said in her accent, you fuck your wife, same way you write.
unidentified
The biggest hits of the 90s.
But whatever happened to the star, Brett Butler?
Sadly, we have found out she is living in a homeless shelter.
And tonight she tells me what it is like to hit rock bottom in Hollywood.
I almost died like Michael Jackson.
I was dying of addiction.
I would be in hell.
Brett had it all.
A hit show on primetime TV. Two years in the top ten.
Can you see me?
She made millions and lived in a mansion.
A tough-talking woman with a wild temper and killing herself with drugs.
Drugs!
Everything but crack and needles pretty much.
I had a variety of things given to me by doctors.
Other things.
I'm not doing it to be coy, but I'm not going to go through the, you know, what I did.
I did it till the wheels came off.
You just go up to your room right now and you don't come back down until you love your brother.
Grace Under Fire was a working class sitcom done in the same vein as Roseanne and Mad About You now on DVD. It was produced by funny man Chuck Lorre, creator of Two and a Half Men and The Big Bang Theory.
It was filmed here on the same studio lot as E.T., At Stage 14, where Christina Applegate's Up All Night is now.
You said you hope you've been forgiven.
What would you hope you've been forgiven for?
Making someone's day miserable over the choice of a word in a 22-minute show.
A lot of the times, I've been an ass and didn't even think I was.
Like, I'd call my managers and go, there's a white limo out here for an award show.
And they'd say, oh my god, don't get in it.
And he should have said, you ungrateful cracker, go get in the car and go to the show, they'll drop you.
Out back.
joe rogan
Because she wanted a black one?
Is that what she's trying to say?
Some people have weird things like that.
unidentified
All these Great White Hope rehabs, the one in Malibu I call muffins, where they have a sous chef and collage class, and I'm going, you're kidding.
And, you know, some won't give you sugar and coffee and they give you drugs and other ones.
It's just, it's bizarre.
30,000 bucks a month and you're lucky when you don't die.
People used to come up and say, I, too, am a survivor of so-and-so and I want to go, look, if you don't wear the t-shirt, you'll have more fun.
She left Hollywood for a farm in Georgia where she lived with her 15 pets.
But then the money ran out and one of Hollywood's biggest stars had to live in a homeless shelter.
Now Brad is making a comeback returning to stand-up this weekend in LA's downtown comedy club.
I just want to make a comeback to be Nancy Grace's worst nightmare.
I really feel like an old dog though.
It's almost like I was a horse that ran in the derby once.
The kids were coming up going, are you still doing this?
I think it had something to do with me living through it.
I don't think about what I survived.
I hope I forgive.
I hope I'm forgiven.
And I'm just really glad that I think things are funny and there's no end to that.
And Brett has even more to reveal tomorrow.
She tells me her plans for a big TV comeback.
joe rogan
Don't get hooked on drugs, guys.
She creeps me out, but you know who creeps me out just as much?
The lady talking to her.
I don't feel like I know anything about her while she's talking.
She's pretty.
Oh, she's beautiful.
unidentified
She's beautiful.
joe rogan
She seems real nice.
I don't know a goddamn thing about her.
I'm not getting anything out of her.
tom segura
That reminds me of the first time I bought drugs.
The first time I ever bought drugs.
joe rogan
Tell me about this.
tom segura
Do you remember the first time you ever bought drugs?
joe rogan
No, but you told me that you had a story.
tom segura
The first time I ever bought drugs I was in high school, and I went to a small high school, so I was trying to not make a thing to ask about it at first, because you don't want it to get around.
joe rogan
So you were curious?
tom segura
Yeah, I wanted to try stuff, but I didn't know who to ask, because if you ask at a small school, it could blow up real fast.
That's how gossip traveled.
So my friend Steve had just transferred from like the big high school, like from a high school with like 5,000 kids.
And so it was like a weekend.
I was like, let's get a sack.
And I think we had just seen Menace to Society and we were like, yo, what's up?
Like we were trying to totally be like hardcore guys.
I'm like pulling the hat to the side and be like, let's do this, man.
joe rogan
Did you wear your hat to the side?
tom segura
No, but I think a lot of throwing swag into shit and just being like, hey, let's get a sack.
joe rogan
You're getting your blackness on.
tom segura
Definitely.
Feeling it.
14, like, what's up?
Let's do this shit.
unidentified
I got your back.
tom segura
Making shit up.
joe rogan
A little too white, right?
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
A little uncomfortable with your existence.
tom segura
Totally.
And then he's like, I know the guy.
So, like a Saturday night, this long green, old school, 70s Cadillac pulls up.
And he's like, that's the dude.
And this guy rolls the window down.
He's like, yo, get in the back.
And I was like, alright, cool.
We get in the back.
Thinking, like, that's where it goes down.
And Steve's like, yo, this is White Pete.
And I was like, what's up, White Pete?
And he was called White Pete because they needed to give him a distinction for his name because he was the only white guy that ran with his crew, right?
And he was like, we didn't have driver's licenses.
So he was like exactly at that moment what we wanted to be in a couple years.
Like he had like the whole unit, like the oversized white tee and like, you know, gold chain.
Yeah, and fucking like fade.
He was like, what's up?
I'm white people.
He talked like Snoop Dogg almost.
unidentified
Oh.
tom segura
Right?
And so we were like, all right.
And I thought he was like, so we're going to go get it now.
I was like, go get what?
Like I thought we were just doing this in the car.
We're going to go get that sack, man.
I'm like, oh, okay.
So we start driving.
We go 30 minutes in a car.
We go to the next town over, which is Fort Pierce, which is definitely a shittier place.
So we're driving through Fort Pierce, and we go from a main street to single-lane highways.
In Florida, there's like...
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
tom segura
So we're on a busy, and then we go to a single lane that has canals on each side.
unidentified
Ooh.
tom segura
Yeah, and then we go from that to a dirt road, and then the dirt road off of that dirt road.
We're driving down and we're like, this is some forensic file shit we're going to end up on.
joe rogan
A lot of woods?
tom segura
Yeah, a lot of brush, groves, that kind of shit.
And I was like, fuck, man.
And at this point, I'm thinking about Menace to Society.
And I'm like, I want to be in that right now.
But I'm feeling really white.
I'm really scared.
And now it's night.
He came over in the evening already, so now it's pitch black outside.
And we're on a dirt road off of a dirt road.
Like, you can scream, there's nobody gonna hear shit.
And on the dirt road, up a gravel path, I see a light.
And the light is from a trailer.
So we pull up to the trailer, and we get out, and it's me, Steve, and White Pete.
And we knock on the door of the trailer, and this dude opens the door, and he has...
This black guy has like six dreadlocks.
You know, each dreadlock is like the size of a king-sized snicker bar.
unidentified
He's got six snicker bars coming out of his hair.
tom segura
And White Pete's like, what's up, Pat, Pat?
And he's like, what's up, White Pete?
And they give each other a hug.
And I was like, oh, fuck.
unidentified
Now this really is totally menace to society shit, right?
brian redban
So I was like, what's going to happen?
tom segura
But I'm so trying to be cool about it.
Like, so trying to be cool about it.
And then he's like, these white boys are looking for a sack.
And he's like, yeah, we could do that.
So we go and say, mind you, we're looking for $20.
Right.
joe rogan
So how far have you driven?
How long has it taken?
tom segura
From this point, it's like, we're already 30 miles south of the city we started.
brian redban
Why would you just say, like, never mind after 10 miles?
unidentified
Why does a white peach just sell it to you?
joe rogan
Why does he have to take you on the trip to the guy's house?
I would...
tom segura
These are all questions I have, but don't have the balls to ask.
In my mind, I'm like, I'm 14, 15. I'm not saying shit to this dude.
joe rogan
I'm cool.
tom segura
What's up?
brian redban
Let's get a sack.
tom segura
Still trying to make up?
So, we go into his trailer, and he's like, alright, we're going to get to do that sack.
We'll be back in 10 minutes.
I was like, who will be back in 10 minutes?
He's like, we will be.
You stay here and watch my place.
And I was like, what?
Like, what the fuck are you talking about?
Is what I'm thinking.
But then I just go like, yeah, cool.
Totally.
joe rogan
So you're in his trailer.
tom segura
And he's like, watch it for me.
I'm like, oh, no.
Like, I'm feeling like that.
Like, real fear.
But I go, yeah, no problem, man.
Like, I watch people's houses all the time.
Like, totally fucking terrified.
joe rogan
Right.
tom segura
And then he goes, like, you walk in the trailer, you're in the living room, because that's the way a trailer is, right?
You walk into it, and there's a bedroom to the right.
He's like, wait in here.
On the bed, he's like, there's a 45 and a 12 gauge.
And he goes, anybody comes in my house, you shoot them.
And I was like, right.
And then he's like, except for my mama.
My mama comes home.
Don't shoot her.
And I was like, got it.
And except I kept trying to be cool about it.
I was like, yeah, like, that's what's up.
I know what you're saying, man.
Go get that sack.
Totally like trying to be like, he was like, all right.
They walk out, they leave me in his trailer with two guns and a fucking message to not, to shoot everybody but his mother.
And I just sit there and I watch the MTV Video Music Awards.
And the whole time, like every show that comes, I just, I'm rocking.
And I'm actually hoping that it's an intruder versus his mom, because I feel like if it's his mom, she might accidentally shoot her.
Or how is she going to react to my explanation?
Like, Pat Pat just told me to wait here.
He's getting some weed for me, but I'm supposed to shoot everybody but you.
unidentified
Are you cool with that?
tom segura
And she's like, oh yeah, it happens all the time.
How are you going to react to this?
So I'm having a panic attack.
We finally, they come back.
We get back in with White Pete.
He drives us back.
And I'm sitting there.
I'm like, what the fuck?
Dude, that was the worst shit ever.
Like, I'm fucking terrified.
He's like, yeah.
Him and Pat-Pat, Steve and Pat became, like, best friends.
So they became, like, super close.
Like, that was, like, his guy.
He would go up there and I'd be like, no, dude.
I don't want to hang out with Pat-Pat at all.
And, like, six months later, when Steve got his license, we went and he was like, you want to get some weed today?
I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So, where'd we go?
We go to Fort Pierce.
Pull up to Pat Pat's and I'm like, God damn it.
joe rogan
So you remembered how to get there?
tom segura
He did.
Steve had to start going there all the time.
joe rogan
Oh my God.
tom segura
We pulled up to his trailer this time.
He gets out now.
This time, like, well, they're friends, so this is probably going to be a much quicker thing.
He comes out, he jumps in the back, and he's like, all right, let's roll.
And I was like, ah, no.
unidentified
Like, we're going to fucking look for a sack again?
tom segura
Like, I thought you just have this shit, man.
So this time we went to...
But here's the thing.
Pat Pass scared the shit out of me the first time.
But that second time, he saved our life, actually.
Because we went, from his trailer the second time, where he jumped in the back, we went to Avenue D, which is the fucking shitty street in Fort Pierce.
Like, if you're going to...
Like, every city, you know, you have, like...
I don't know, whatever city you're in, they're like, that's...
Have you ever seen...
Have you ever been to a street where you see open drug dealing, where there's not even some type of facade?
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
Los Angeles.
tom segura
Right, but you've been down a street where there's no pretense about it.
joe rogan
Yeah, Los Angeles.
We were filming Fear Factor.
We were actually filming the Playboy Playmate edition of Fear Factor.
tom segura
Downtown area?
joe rogan
Yeah, we were watching people sell drugs, smoke crack, right there.
We were in a crane, and I go, look, they're smoking crack.
And the girls were like, oh my god, they are smoking crack.
This is ridiculous.
No one's protecting us.
We're up here in a crane.
tom segura
That was exactly like this, where we pulled up in Steve's car...
And the windows come down and we just get surrounded.
Like the car got surrounded by six guys.
And they reach in their jackets and they go, this one guy goes, y'all look familiar.
And this other guy goes, yeah, y'all look real familiar.
Y'all ever been here before?
And when somebody says that, you look familiar, have you been here before?
How would you answer that?
joe rogan
Nope.
tom segura
Nope.
Right.
And exactly at that moment, I go, no.
And Steve at the exact same time goes, yep.
Yes.
unidentified
Oh, I hate that shit.
tom segura
Oh, man.
And then they're like, see, I told you, man.
Y'all look like them white boys that have been snatching bags around here.
I was like, oh, fuck.
You look like the white boys that have been taking bags from guys.
I'm like, no, dude.
That's not us.
Steve's like, but we have been here before.
I'm like, will you shut the fuck up?
Pat Pat is in the back.
unidentified
I'm like, hold on.
tom segura
He gets out and walks up, talks to all of them like he's the ambassador.
I don't know what the fuck.
I own these guys.
They're with me.
They totally let us go.
Without him, we would have been fucked.
unidentified
What's that noise, Brian?
What is that noise?
brian redban
Somebody's phone.
tom segura
That's not mine.
joe rogan
No, it's me.
Pat Pat.
unidentified
Pat Pat.
tom segura
Pat Pat is still out.
I don't know what happened to Pat Pat.
And White Pete, who knows what happened to White Pete.
joe rogan
Not good things.
tom segura
Probably not good things, man.
brian redban
You should Facebook him.
unidentified
Can you Facebook Pap Pap?
joe rogan
Pap Pap will be the next person that makes up a fake Twitter account.
tom segura
That's a real fear.
That was, I had real fear.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
tom segura
And you're like.
joe rogan
For a good fucking reason.
tom segura
Oh, like when you feel your stomach dropping, you're like, what's going to happen right now?
Oh, my God.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's terrible shit, man.
When I was a kid, when I was in high school, we used to go to Dorchester to eat like late at night.
I was hanging out with this one kid.
I lived in Jamaica Plain before I went to high school.
And Jamaica Plain was like a real shifty neighborhood.
It was kind of creepy.
Yeah.
And it bordered some really creepy places.
And I became friends with a couple of those kids, and I stayed in touch with them.
And then when I went to high school, I went to visit them a couple of times before I realized it was really fucking dangerous.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
They were going to a bad high school, man.
Their high school situation, my high school situation was very different.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
We went to the same middle school together, and middle school was kind of okay because kids were young.
They hadn't gotten into dangerous shit yet.
And, you know, this is 1980. Yeah.
You know, this is early.
It was just like when the Sugar Hill Gang would just come out.
Hip hop.
A hip-a-to-the-hip-a-to-hip-hop.
That was the first rap music, and it was very friendly in retrospect.
And things changed radically, though.
When I left, I went to Newton, which is like nice suburbs, and I lived across the street from a river, and there was like woods near me and shit like that.
And they went to the inner city high school, and they had some fucking tough times, man.
I watched those dudes.
They were basically involved in just...
Just crime was everywhere around them.
It was nuts, man.
Inner city shit is just no fun at all.
I got lucky that my parents moved to a nicer place.
We would go to these places late at night when I was hanging out with them.
We'd hang out with some of their friends.
We'd go to Dorchester at 2 o'clock in the morning to eat.
First of all, I couldn't believe who the fuck let me wander around at 14 years old.
but we were in some place where there was bulletproof glass they would sell you food but it was through bulletproof glass it was sandwiches and there was like a slot where you would slide the food under and it was like the worst fucking neighborhood you could possibly be in outside of Beirut we're hanging out there and some guy goes I told you I'd pay for this shit motherfucker like decides I already paid for this shit And they're like, let him go, let him go, let him go.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
And I could see the guy, like, bluffed his way out of a free sandwich.
And he would walk off, and he was eating it, like, right at the front door, like, blocking the door like a dog.
Like, he got far enough, you know, for he was away from danger, and he was just with no regard for how it looked.
He was just eating it, blocking the doorway, eating the sandwich.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
And then I was like, um...
tom segura
People don't know how bad some neighborhoods are in Hollywood.
Sunset between Fairfax and Crescent Heights used to be a trap.
I remember I worked at a restaurant there, and one night, man, two weekends in a row, first weekend someone got shot in the head on the steps into Denny's, which was like a block.
And then the next weekend, somebody came in, went into the kitchen, took scissors, Start stabbing people with scissors and stabbing themselves.
But it was also like a criminal hangout because of Denny's.
joe rogan
Denny's is a criminal hangout?
tom segura
You know, I'm saying it's open all night.
So that's where late night people, people who are up all night could go and hang out.
They just shut it down.
Everybody who's in here is a pimp, hustler, drug dealer, and they're murdering people weekend after weekend.
They just shut that shit down.
That was a dangerous area, man.
joe rogan
Hollywood is so shitty.
brian redban
People who come to Hollywood who think I almost killed a guy yesterday coming home from the doctor.
I was probably going 45, 50 miles an hour and out of nowhere the car next to me slams on his brakes.
I'm like what the fuck?
So I slammed on my brakes even though I had no idea why he was slamming on his brakes type thing because I couldn't see over his car.
I slammed on brakes and just missed this old man dressed up as a woman.
And he was just crossing the street, like in the middle of the street, jaywalking, and just screaming at us.
Like, you could just tell he was fucking crazy.
He had lipstick all around his whole entire face.
Dude, it was just an old man dressed up as a woman.
joe rogan
Brett Butt was co-star from Grace Under Fire.
Still pissed that that bitch had to scream and get the show canceled.
tom segura
I gotta fucking bounce.
I gotta go do a show with Brea.
unidentified
Go bounce.
joe rogan
Brea Improv, folks, tonight, if you are around, if you're anywhere near Brea, There's an 8pm show tonight.
Brea Improv.
Tommy Segura all up in this.
You're headlining though, right?
tom segura
It's a Valentine show.
joe rogan
You and your wife?
tom segura
Me and my wife, yeah.
joe rogan
So it starts when you get there if you're late.
You won't be late though.
You can leave here.
I'll give you directions.
tom segura
Thank you.
This weekend I'll be at the Orlando Improv.
So if you're in Orlando...
joe rogan
Orlando, Florida.
tom segura
You dirty freaks.
joe rogan
And you gotta go down and support Tommy when he is taping his new CD. That will be in Denver at the Comedy Works South on February 24th and 25th.
It's a great fucking club.
Tell Wendy I said what's up!
tom segura
And also please check out the podcast.
The podcast I've done with Brian for the last few years.
joe rogan
Yes, it's called Your Mom's House.
It's available on iTunes.
tom segura
We're going to do the first episode without our beloved Brian tomorrow.
And the website is YourMomsHousePodcast.com.
joe rogan
Your Mom's House Podcast with his lovely and talented wife, Christina Wisinski.
Very, very funny young lady.
And she'll be on the show tonight as well.
That's the Bray Improv, 9pm, and of course, next, not next weekend, but whatever the fuck weekend it is.
It is next weekend?
Yeah, it's not this coming weekend, but the next one.
24th and the 25th, Denver, get on that shit.
unidentified
Thank you.
joe rogan
Fire up, Death Squad, in support.
Tom Segura, you are the fucking man.
unidentified
I love you, buddy.
joe rogan
You're awesome.
tom segura
Thanks for having me.
joe rogan
Tell Pat Pat, what's up?
unidentified
What's up, Pat Pat?
joe rogan
Get that side, get that side.
Thank you to The Pleshlight for sponsoring our podcast from the beginning, from the very dark days of laptops and not knowing what the fuck we're doing, as if we didn't start off today on the wrong channel.
Hey, we fucking, we got a little slippery.
Listen, this is real.
There's not a lot of production value, but it's free, okay?
Thanks to, thanks to everybody that's tuning into this fucking thing, before we even get to sponsors.
You know, it's one of the coolest things in the world to have such an awesome fan base, to have so many cool fucking people to, To connect with so many people.
To get all these messages from you guys.
Like, hey man, this is what I've been looking for my whole life.
This show's changing my life.
This show changes the way I look at things.
You guys change the way we look at things too.
From Twitter, from all the cool links that I get sent, to the amount of support that we get from our shows.
It, to me, is the coolest thing that I've ever done in my life.
You've got the best fans, man.
tom segura
You've got the best fans.
joe rogan
I'm lucky.
I'm very, very fortunate.
We put out the right vibe and people respond.
And we put out this show...
It's real.
You know what I'm saying?
There's no bullshit, no pretense.
It is what it is.
It's 100% free.
We love all you freaks.
We just want to let you know that this is not something I take for granted.
I've done a lot of shit in my career.
This is the thing I'm the most proud of.
For sure.
You guys, I'm the most proud of the whole...
The whole thing.
Everything behind it.
I don't want to say movement.
All the momentum behind it.
All the shows.
It's a humbling experience, man.
When I do something like the Chicago Theater and there's 3,200 people and everyone's screaming and cheering.
It's really one of the greatest experiences of my life.
And we're going to keep going, bitch.
We ain't going nowhere.
Come see me in...
Yeah.
Go to JoeRogan.net.
I don't even know where the fuck I'm going.
brian redban
Friday we're at the Ice House.
Go to Ice House Comedy.
joe rogan
Friday we're at the Ice House.
And Friday, by the way, it's going to be a very intimate show and it will sell out.
We do them every week.
There's only 85 seats and it's fucking awesome.
It's going to be Brian Redman.
Who's going on?
brian redban
Well, I don't know the full lineup yet, but we have DJ Dog Pound, I think, is going to do it.
Who does all the Tim and Eric stuff.
tom segura
Oh, really?
joe rogan
Oh, beautiful.
And you're around this Friday as well?
tom segura
I'm in Orlando.
joe rogan
You're in Orlando.
tom segura
Orlando Improv.
joe rogan
That's it, you dirty freaks.
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And then go fuck yourself.
Or go fuck it yourself.
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You fucking freaks.
You know I love you.
God damn it.
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Smoke that sack, man.
That's it.
Smoke that sack.
joe rogan
And I'll see you guys soon.
Check out UFC tomorrow night.
I won't be there, but it's going to be live from somewhere cool.
Omaha, Nebraska?
Oh, Jake Ellenberger.
He's from Omaha.
And Diego Sanchez.
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