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Jan. 31, 2012 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience #180 - Joey Diaz, Eddie Bravo, Denny Prokopos
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eddie bravo
Brothers.
joey diaz
What bitches?
joe rogan
What?
What?
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Oh, shit.
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joe rogan
Thank God men like Nick Diaz exist.
This weekend, Nick Diaz and Carlos Condit.
Thank God those guys exist.
Thank God those guys exist, and thank God those guys have built themselves up to the point where this is one of those matches where five fucking rounds, man, you can't wait.
You're going to be palms sweaty, rubbing your hands together before that bitch.
I don't know who's going to be the referee for this.
I don't know who it is, but before that one person looks at the blue corner and then walks at the red corner and then says, Fight!
That shit is going to be crazy!
joey diaz
And poor Carlos Condor.
He's been training for eight years for the fucking fight.
Yeah, perfect.
Eight years he's been fucking training.
Every two months they change opponents.
joe rogan
Perfect.
joey diaz
He's had 19 fucking opponents like Batman in season one.
joe rogan
For him, I think it's perfect.
Because he's so prepared.
joey diaz
He's so prepared.
He's ready to rock.
joe rogan
It's a perfect time for him.
joey diaz
160 plus 130. The line is not that bad.
unidentified
It's minus 160. You would be crazy to pick a favorite in this fight.
joe rogan
I think he'd be crazy.
I think that this is one of those who the fuck knows what's going to happen fights.
This could be...
Who knows?
It's going to be amazing.
joey diaz
It's going to be amazing.
For Doom Roy Nelson, too.
joe rogan
Yeah, for Doom Roy Nelson, too.
joey diaz
I forgot all about that.
joe rogan
Oh, how about Hennon Burrow and Scott Jorgensen?
joey diaz
That's right.
Holy shit.
joe rogan
That Hennon Burrell dude, he's the dark horse of the pound for pound division because he's not a champion yet, but he might be one of the top pound for pound guys.
He's right up there with Aldo.
He's a beast.
Did you see his last fight with Brad Pickett?
He hit homeboy with a knee to the face with no jump.
Just fucking leaped up with his knee.
You know, instead of that thing where they lift the front leg and then they come up with the right leg, they'll start with the left leg and then they use it as force to kick up with the right leg.
joey diaz
Exactly.
joe rogan
Some of these badass Brazilians, like Anderson can do it too, where they just fly through the fucking air with one knee.
And Burrell just lifted that knee up and crack!
Caught Brad Pickett in the chin.
I mean, he's a beast, dude.
And his jiu-jitsu is fucking sick.
You know, as soon as Brad Pickett, like, stumbled and he saw a position, he jumped on that back so quick, man.
It was a thing of beauty, man.
eddie bravo
I saw the UFC special on Nick Diaz, Carlos Condit.
joe rogan
Which one?
Episode 1?
eddie bravo
Shit, I don't know.
joe rogan
Episode 2, I don't know if it's aired yet.
joey diaz
Is it aired yet?
eddie bravo
Well, the one where they have Nick Diaz, like, kindergarten teacher.
joe rogan
Yeah, isn't that funny?
eddie bravo
Damn, she remembered Nick, right?
unidentified
Of course she did.
eddie bravo
She remembered Nick.
And this is...
I learned a lot about Nick.
And...
I come up with a hypothesis.
Before, in the early days, if you were a black belt in jiu-jitsu, shit, you had a shot at the title.
And then it became, if you were an Olympic wrestler, damn, you have a shot at the title.
Now it's obvious, now it's becoming more like all other sports.
If you didn't wrestle, do jiu-jitsu, and worked on your striking since day one as a kid, because there's so many kids doing that, all three now, it's like you're not gonna have a shot in the very near future.
And I think there's one more factor, and that's the Nick Diaz factor.
Obviously, he doesn't like cameras.
He's said it a million times.
He doesn't like to talk in front of cameras.
He's not into it, and maybe he's shy in front of the camera or whatever, and his teacher was even saying that he wasn't the most vocal guy, and he had trouble expressing himself and all that shit.
When he gets in that cage and that door slams shut and the crowd is roaring, there's no more fucking talking.
He just comes alive.
He looks at his opponent and he's like, nobody could fucking hear you.
You could be the most articulate, funny, charismatic guy on the fucking planet, but you know what?
I fucking run all day, swim all day, I got a crazy chin.
I'm gonna fucking kill this motherfucker.
That's an X factor right there.
You have to look for that, I think, in the future in fighters.
Do they have that switch where when they fucking get in that cage, it really is life or death for them.
joe rogan
His is a very different thing than anybody else's.
First of all, his approach to it is so different than anybody else's in that he does endurance training, like long-distance marathon-type training, and basically forces these guys to try to keep up with him.
I mean, he basically puts them into an endurance contest and tries to get them to keep up with them.
That's why he does a lot of juking and a lot of getting in their face.
All that stuff tenses you up, all that stuff.
You know, all those punches that he throws at 50-60%, all those tighten you up.
You know, one of the things that Frank Shamrock said was that when Nick Diaz was punching him, he hits you so often you can't breathe.
You don't know when to breathe.
You can't relax.
Because you never get to relax.
Because they just keep coming.
Which is just different.
He just fights in a different way.
I think the way he does it is brilliant.
It's so brilliant because no one else did it before him.
No one else figured out that way to fight.
No one else really would not just have great skills, but have ridiculous world-class endurance, like swim from Alcatraz endurance.
That's nutty shit, man.
They said they went through a countdown.
He sparred some ridiculous amount of rounds, then he ran five miles, and then he swam for an hour and a half.
That was just one day.
eddie bravo
Yeah.
joe rogan
And he just does that all day.
eddie bravo
He just does it all the time.
Maybe he has some kind of condition where he's obsessed with exercise?
joe rogan
I don't know.
I mean, I think he loves it for sure.
I mean, when he was a kid, he said that he, you know, I think he said it was, one of the countdown shows, his, I think it was his uncle or someone, was like a track coach.
A track coach or something.
Yeah, and he used to take him.
His grandfather, Danny Propagos.
joey diaz
But that's the other thing too.
Here's the other thing too with him.
You know what?
He doesn't like fucking talking.
You smoke a joint.
What do you feel like doing?
Go for a fucking run.
See what happens to your head.
joe rogan
It feels great.
joey diaz
It feels great.
I smoke a joint and I go to fucking swim fit for an hour.
You feel like fucking Hercules when you come out.
And that's his world.
That's his fucking world.
joe rogan
Smokes weed and runs.
joey diaz
That's where his endurance comes from.
From going, I don't want to hang out with these dumb fucks.
I might stab somebody.
I'll just smoke a joint and run until the fucking high wears off.
And he runs for fucking two hours.
When I lived in Boulder, I used to smoke and run.
And the high, when you finish fucking running, is a complete different dimension.
joe rogan
Yeah, even when you smoke and lift, man.
joey diaz
Everything.
joe rogan
You feel all your muscle tissue.
Like when you're pressing weights, you feel it.
You feel your whole body moving.
joey diaz
Smoking and rolling.
joe rogan
They say, well, not just that, yoga.
Smoking and doing yoga.
joey diaz
Oh, an edible?
unidentified
Tremendous.
joe rogan
That's the way you're supposed to do it.
It is edible.
unidentified
Tremendous.
joey diaz
I used to eat an edible.
joe rogan
You're supposed to eat hash.
joey diaz
I used to take a little piece of banana bread or a little hash cookie.
I'd take it at 7 in the morning and go to 8.30 yoga.
You know what my head is at at 8.30?
And the bitch is smoking!
And I would just go into it, little by little, and it's amazing.
It's fucking amazing.
When you walk out of there, you don't know what hit you.
You really don't.
So that's what my thing is with him.
That he just, you know what?
He's not the type of guy that's going to go to a club or whatever.
What would you do?
Smoke a joint and smoke a fucking run.
eddie bravo
He's the last guy I'd want to fight.
Because think about it.
Compare him to GSP and even Jon Jones and Anderson Silva.
What he has that they don't have, maybe they will develop it, is he will stand right in front of you and exchange with you.
And he's down to go to war right in front of you.
I mean, GSB ain't gonna do that.
Jon Jones probably won't even do that.
And if you decide to take him down?
He'll fuck you up on the ground, too.
His jiu-jitsu is amazing.
joe rogan
Yeah, that cyborg fight.
eddie bravo
What the fuck are you going to do?
joe rogan
That's a perfect example of that.
eddie bravo
Yeah, what are you going to do with Nick Diaz?
joe rogan
Yeah, he was killing him.
eddie bravo
What are you going to do with him?
joe rogan
Cyborg, he was killing cyborg standing up, so cyborg took him down and whoop, armbar.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Within 30 seconds, he had him in an armbar.
eddie bravo
Yeah, I mean, GSP might be able to take him down, but what is he going to do?
He's not going to pass his guard.
joe rogan
Yeah.
eddie bravo
He's not going to pass Nick Diaz's guard.
It's not going to happen.
joe rogan
He doesn't get tired when you're on top of him either.
You know, a lot of dudes, man, you put them on their back and they just get exhausted.
They get demoralized.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
They get exhausted.
eddie bravo
Unless we see his chin fall apart, man, I can't see him losing.
joe rogan
Well, you know, that can happen to some fighters when they take beatings.
eddie bravo
Yeah.
joe rogan
It can happen.
At a certain time.
eddie bravo
We've seen it happen over and over, you know, with Vanderlei and so many guys.
Chuck.
Eventually, they had iron chins.
unidentified
Yeah.
eddie bravo
And they would come...
Even if they got robbed...
joe rogan
Well, Vanderlei never had an iron chin.
Vanderlei got dropped a lot.
Sakuraba dropped him.
A lot of people dropped him.
Henderson had him really badly hurt.
eddie bravo
His chin is a lot worse now.
It's a lot worse.
joe rogan
Arguably.
Arguably.
But, you know, he was already just this dude who ran face first.
You know, one of the things that made Vanderlei great was how reckless he was.
You know, he didn't give a fuck.
He would charge at you literally like a wild dog.
You know, he'd be like a pit bull just running at you.
But that style gets you hurt.
You know, that style.
I mean, he's the...
It's not a coincidence that he's the only guy of his era that had to have facial reconstruction so he could breathe.
You know, his nose was flattened, smashed flattened.
If you go and look at his face from when he first entered into Pride and then his face in his first UFC fight with Chuck, he's a completely different person.
You wouldn't even recognize him.
He was a handsome guy.
When he first got into Pride, he was a fucking handsome guy.
Vanderlei.
Look at Vanderlei.
eddie bravo
He thought he was hot?
joe rogan
Pretty sexy.
I'd dance with him.
He was cute.
He was sexy.
He was a completely different looking person.
Nogueira as well.
Nogueira's face looks way different too.
eddie bravo
How about Nate fucking Diaz?
Holy shit.
It's like a carbon copy of Nick Diaz.
We got two Nick Diazes.
We don't just have one.
That's fucking incredible.
He was just like maybe a year behind Nick Diaz sort of in development it seemed like.
Like maybe in jujitsu he was a little behind and in the striking and in the striking power and now he's like caught up to Nick Diaz.
joe rogan
I think he had some weight problems too where he didn't cut the weight right and now he cuts it right and now he has way more energy because when he went up to 170 you know he had some fights where he looked badass like the Rory Markham fight.
Holy shit and I thought man You know, this kid is draining himself too much to get down to 55, but then he figured out how to do 55 right.
And he came in and the Gomi fight just fucking lit Gomi up.
But Cerrone fight was even more impressive because he did it for three fucking rounds.
So it shows that he's got endurance.
At 155, too.
And he lit Cowboy up, man.
I mean, I thought that was going to be a crazy close fight.
It's like sort of how I feel about this Condit fight.
I don't know what the hell's going to happen.
I look at it, I'm like, man, both guys are tough as fuck.
Both guys have mad skills.
Both guys can survive.
Some dudes can't be the nail, you know?
Some dudes can be the hammer, but when they're the nail, they fall apart.
Condit doesn't fall apart, man.
Condit got...
Bombed on by Jake Ellenberger.
Ellenberger had him in all sorts of trouble.
And Ellenberger puts people away.
That kid hits fucking hard.
He's one of the hardest hitting guys at 170. And he bombed Condit.
And Condit covered up, weathered the storm, and came back.
That was the first fucking round, man.
He was in all sorts of trouble in the first round.
Where a lot of referees would have pulled that trigger.
A lot of referees would have stopped that fight if they didn't respect him.
If they didn't know him.
If he was like a new guy into the UFC. How did that fight end again?
He won a decision.
Won a close decision.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
But it was a great fucking fight.
But what it proved to me is that Condit is no frontrunner.
He's a dude that is in it to win it.
The Rory McDonald fight.
Another perfect example.
joey diaz
He came on the third round.
joe rogan
Third round.
Came back and stopped him.
Lost the first two rounds.
Came back in the third round and stopped him.
And that kid is a fucking phenom, man.
That Rory McDonald, man.
unidentified
He's a Yeah, he crushed him on the ground.
joe rogan
He broke his face open on the ground.
Condit's an animal.
He's a real fucking killer.
That guy's a straight killer.
What he said in that countdown show was badass.
He goes, I want the referee to rescue you.
I want the referee to come in and save your life.
Save your fucking life, man.
When a dude thinks like that, that's a killer, man.
I mean, if he wasn't doing this, he would be somewhere working for the military, shooting people in Iraq.
joey diaz
I always said that about him.
joe rogan
He's a killer.
He's a fucking killer.
I mean, that natural born killer, that's not just a nickname.
You know, you can talk all that tough guy shit you want.
What happens when you actually get in there and you're throwing down?
When that guy's actually in there and he's throwing down, he's a fucking stone cold killer.
They both are.
They're both stone cold killers.
Neither guy's going to be scared of the other guy.
Both guys are going to be just going in there, ready to just let it all hang out.
This is going to be a crazy weekend.
I wish I wasn't working.
I wish I would fucking get Kenny Florian to fill in.
I want to get hammered.
I want to sit cage side.
eddie bravo
I'm going to take it easy this time.
joe rogan
It would be an honor to call this fight, don't get me wrong, but there's fights like that where I wish I could just go, oh shit, oh shit!
Kajak and Mike Pearce, yeah.
Those are two home run hitters.
joey diaz
Both great wrestlers.
joe rogan
Pearce is dangerous for everybody.
He's one of those guys that eventually he's going to catch on.
Eventually Pearce is going to hit his stride and he's going to be Johnny Hendrickson dudes.
You know, like Johnny Hendrickson just took out Finch.
There's these wrestler dudes that are just, they're striking and slowly getting better, slowly getting better, but the power's always there.
It's just a matter of figuring out how to put fist to face.
And they're getting better at it.
And Johnny Hendricks, man, the way he put out John Fitch like that with one punch.
I'll tell you what.
Johnny Hendricks hits anybody with that punch.
Anybody.
And you're fucksville.
Fucked.
That guy hits really hard.
There's some guys you watch him hit dudes in the cage.
And, you know, you say, well, hey, that's a strong guy.
That's an athletic guy.
Hendricks is one of those guys.
He's got that extra...
There's that extra...
There's some dudes when they hit you, you hear it.
When you hear them hit the bag, you know, you ever know when you hear a guy hit the bag and he goes, this motherfucker's got that extra pop to it.
That's what Hendrix has got.
You either have that or you don't have that.
I mean, you can certainly make your punching power better.
You certainly build your muscles up a bit, put some weight on, learn how to turn your body into things better.
But some dudes just know how to throw.
And that Hendrix cat knows how to throw.
And so does Pierce.
He knows how to fuck, especially that left hook.
unidentified
Oh, oh, oh.
joe rogan
He's got power.
And Koscheck too, man.
Koscheck is dangerous as fuck, man.
That Matt Hughes fight, that was a brutal assassination, man.
You know, that was a brutal ending to that fight, which you kind of knew what was going to happen.
Stylistically, you're like, well, here's two really good wrestlers, but one of them has stupid knockout power.
And the other one, you know, has been knocked out a few times.
It's not the best stylistic matchup for Hughes, you know?
You know, he's going to fight again.
He's looking for another fight.
Hughes.
eddie bravo
Man, Hughes and Hoist Gracie, they should make that happen, man.
joe rogan
He'll kill Hoist.
eddie bravo
It doesn't matter.
It's a good rematch.
Hoist wants it really bad.
No matter what happens, it's still going to be a match.
joe rogan
I shouldn't say he'll kill Hoist because you never know what the fuck is going to happen.
And Hoist Gracie's a legend.
But based on that first fight, I would hate to see that again.
Unless there was something wrong with Hoist.
eddie bravo
Is Hoist claiming he was sick or something?
joe rogan
I don't know.
Hoist is an all-time great.
He's the original legend.
He was the first jiu-jitsu guy, the first guy to show the world.
If it wasn't for him, I would have never known.
None of us would have ever known if it wasn't for his accomplishments in the Ultimate Fighting Championship.
None of us would have ever known.
But that was a long fucking time ago.
And errors, they pass for a reason.
At a certain point in time, your body just does not move the same anymore.
You know?
And the world passes you by.
And when that happens, you gotta step aside, man.
You gotta step aside.
You can't just be going out there and getting knocked out all the time.
And get hurt all the time.
Because it's just, it's just reality.
You know, reality, there's a certain point in time where all of us are gonna be dust, man.
And the only way this sport really works is that we stop people from competing when they hit that point.
Because they don't believe it.
The same thing that makes someone a great fighter makes someone say, no, you're all wrong.
I'm gonna prove the world.
I'm gonna go out one more time.
I'm making a comeback.
But that's how guys get fucked up.
eddie bravo
Yeah, but they gotta decide for themselves.
If Hoist wants to fight, I would love to see Hoist Matt Hughes.
joe rogan
Really?
eddie bravo
He wants it.
If Matt Hughes wants another fight, that's a great rematch, man.
joe rogan
What if Matt Hughes got on his back just like before?
eddie bravo
That'd be fine.
joe rogan
Bombing him in the head.
eddie bravo
Herb Dean would come in and stop it at the perfect time?
joe rogan
I don't know, man.
unidentified
Like he always does.
joe rogan
I don't want to watch that fight again.
I don't want to watch...
I love Hoise too much, man.
I love that guy.
Like I said, he's a legend.
unidentified
He's a hero.
eddie bravo
He's not going to get killed.
He'll tap out.
joe rogan
It's not that.
eddie bravo
People lose fights all the time.
joe rogan
I don't want to see him fight in that.
Unless there was something really wrong with him.
Unless he's different now.
eddie bravo
He wants it really bad.
I think that's good enough.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
You know who else wants Hoise?
eddie bravo
Who?
joe rogan
Your boy.
eddie bravo
My boy?
joe rogan
Dan Hardy.
eddie bravo
Oh, shit.
joe rogan
Dan Hardy's been calling him out.
eddie bravo
That'd be a good fight, too.
joe rogan
He doesn't like him, apparently.
eddie bravo
That'd be a good fight.
joe rogan
Yeah.
You don't think Hughes would be able to take Dan Hardy down fairly easily?
Unless Dan's worked really hard on his wrestling.
eddie bravo
Yeah.
I'm assuming he's working, like, day and night on takedown defense.
joe rogan
If Hughes goes back to the way he was wrestling when he was at his peak, I mean, if that's possible, if his body can still do that, man...
Remember those days, like the Sakurai days?
When, you know, people forget how dominant that motherfucker was.
You know, he was dominant, man.
He was like one of the first dominant wrestlers, actually, that learned submissions, too.
So he wouldn't just beat you up.
He started strangling guys, taking backs.
He started getting arm bars and shit.
eddie bravo
Frank Trigg.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah.
eddie bravo
Didn't he beat him twice?
joe rogan
Beat him twice with a rear naked choke.
eddie bravo
Yeah.
joe rogan
The second time after he got kicked in the balls.
eddie bravo
Yep.
joe rogan
Those were great days, man.
eddie bravo
Remember, he picked him up and walked him across.
joe rogan
After Frank Trigg was bombing on him, Frank Trigg got his back, and it looked bad.
But Frank Trigg does not know how to finish that joke.
He doesn't know how to defend or finish.
And Hughes picked him up, walked him to the middle of the fucking cage, and threw him against the ground.
It was awesome, man.
It was awesome.
That was like one of the best moments ever.
Like MMA moments come from behind, you know, from being stuck.
Guy kicks you in the balls, hits you with a bunch of shots, takes your back.
And this is in a rematch of a fight where you fucked him up in the first fight and you didn't want to fight him in the second fight anyway.
And then he starts winning and then Hughes just mustered it all up and turned it all around.
That was amazing.
That was some amazing shit.
eddie bravo
Yeah, some good high guard action in that fight as well.
joe rogan
See, a guy like Hughes, I mean, I think Hughes is a great fighter, but I think a certain number of knockouts, they have to step in and stop you from doing that.
You know, whether it's your family, whether it's your friends, whether it's, you know, your boss, there's a certain amount of times.
You know, I've talked to, there's a guy that I know very well who is a traumatic brain injury specialist.
And what he deals with is rehabilitating people and...
And helping people with all these mental imbalances that people have due to traumatic brain injuries.
One of the things that happens is your body stops producing testosterone.
You get really lethargic.
You get depressed.
That happens to a lot of guys that have a bunch of head injuries.
They get depressed.
Apparently, your brain can only take a few concussions in your life.
eddie bravo
Who needs to retire right now?
unidentified
Who?
joe rogan
I would never tell any of them to retire, but...
There's a few dudes that I would pull aside and I would say, you know, think about this a little bit, you know?
I don't want to say because I'm in my position, you know, being a commentator.
But there's a lot of them.
Any dudes who've been knocked out a gang at times.
But there's guys that violate that shit, like Alistair Overeem.
Al Starover even been stopped a bunch of times, dude.
He's been knocked out a gang of times, man.
eddie bravo
How many times?
joe rogan
A lot.
I would bet he's been stopped at least eight times.
eddie bravo
Damn.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah, he's been...
Chuck knocked him out, okay?
Badr Hari knocked him out in kickboxing.
What is that big dude that used to fight King of the Cage?
Real angry guy.
Hoffman, Bobby Hoffman.
Bobby Hoffman knocked him out.
eddie bravo
How about that?
joe rogan
Yeah, Bobby Hoffman KO'd him.
Shogun KO'd him, I believe.
A bunch of dudes stopped him, man.
Oh, Karatanov knocked him out.
A bunch of dudes stopped Overeem, but Overeem figured it out, man.
And one of the things he figured out, he was just too fucking small.
He was too small at 205, you know, when he moved up to heavyweight.
But then again, Karatanov, I think Karatanov jacked him at heavyweight.
He started, you know, I don't know what changed in him, man, what changed his ultimate dedication, what changed in his intensity, what changed, but no one's ever turned it around like Overeem.
No one's ever gone from being stopped like eight times.
And back when he was fighting at 205 in MMA, he was thought of as a tough guy, a tough guy, but a guy who would gas out.
He goes from that to be the first guy to win a world title in both MMA and K-1 kickboxing.
No one's ever done that before.
No one ever won the K-1 Grand Prix and won an MMA title and looks like that.
Who the fuck looks like Alistair Overeem?
I mean, he's a goddamn superhero in a comic book.
He turned it around.
So when you got a guy like that, you kind of can't say anything.
You know, you look at Mirko Krokop and you go, man, I love Krokop.
He's a legend.
He's got one of the greatest highlight reels of all time.
Those head kick knockouts, one after the other.
But at a certain point in time, how many times can Krokop get knocked out before someone doesn't want to, you know, you feel bad for him, you know?
joey diaz
You know, it's amazing the alertness of the whole concussion thing.
joe rogan
Yeah.
joey diaz
Like, everybody's hip to it now.
Like, I was watching 60 Minutes Tuesday night.
And they interviewed Roger Goodall, the whatever of the NFL, and on Monday he reviews tapes to see who gets concussions.
And they showed a guy hitting another guy, like a wide receiver, getting hit by a defensive back.
And he pointed the defensive back, getting the concussion, and staying in the fucking game.
So they're fighting him now.
They stay in the fucking game with the concussion.
Because, you know, you don't want to go the fuck out.
You're rocking.
You're playing.
You know what I'm saying?
So you don't even feel it.
But it's amazing how the guys are staying in voluntarily.
So who the fuck are you to tell them?
joe rogan
It's dangerous, man.
It's really dangerous.
And these football players, they're finding out now.
These guys, by the time they even get to college, a lot of them are fucked up.
Remember that dude who died?
Henry something?
Henry died in the back of a pickup truck?
Football player really recently?
You don't know what I'm talking about?
joey diaz
No.
joe rogan
He and his girlfriend were arguing.
He jumped in the back of her pickup truck.
Google that shit, Brian, if you can.
Henry something.
Henry, football player, dead pickup truck.
Anyway, the dude died.
Don't put Bud Olien.
The dude died, and he was only 28, I think, and they checked out his brain.
He had a brain of like an old man.
His brain was all fucked up.
His brain showed massive damage because he had been KO'd who knows how many times by the time he got to the pros.
You get KO'd in high school.
You get KO'd in junior high school.
I talked to a dude who had a fucking 11-year-old son.
And his 11-year-old son got knocked out for a half an hour.
And they put him back in a month later.
A month later, that kid's playing football again.
I'm like, you're crazy.
eddie bravo
One of my students got knocked out in...
brian redban
Chris Henry.
joe rogan
Chris Henry, yeah.
Yeah, it was his story.
Does it say anything about his brain?
brian redban
Cincinnati Bengals football player Chris Henry died after he fell...
unidentified
Hold on.
brian redban
After he fell...
Oh, the shit.
It just went away.
joe rogan
He fell off the back of a pickup truck, right?
brian redban
Yeah, pickup truck.
joe rogan
Fuck, man.
These guys, man, they don't realize.
A lot of people, you know, they had no idea.
So they were just throwing these people back in over and over and over again.
And now they're starting to put it together.
What are you doing over there, Joey?
What are you doing?
joey diaz
Checking something, man.
brendan schaub
Well, one of my guys got knocked out last weekend in an amateur show, and he wasn't knocked out completely.
eddie bravo
It was controversial, almost.
The ref stopped it.
It was on the fence whether it was early or not.
He got up right away and was complaining.
He was never out, but he was a little rocked.
I didn't complain about the stoppage.
It looked legit.
He got rocked standing and then got taken down, a couple ground and pound against a cage.
He never was out.
Popped up.
By the time we got backstage, And he sat down.
He didn't remember anything about the fight.
Not one thing about the fight.
joe rogan
Yeah, they don't remember anything about the day.
eddie bravo
He wasn't even out, though.
That's the crazy thing.
He wasn't even out, and he doesn't remember.
He didn't remember the name of the hotel we were in.
joe rogan
Well, you remember when we saw Tim Sylvia?
We were in the hotel bar.
We were waiting to get our car to the airport, and it was the next day after he fought Randy Couture.
He fought five rounds against Randy and lost his title, and he came up to us, and he goes, dude, I don't even remember the fight.
And he goes, I remember the bell ringing, and then I remember sitting in the corner asking my corner what round it was.
It's the last round.
And he's like, what?
The last round?
Like, he just fought five rounds on instinct.
He had no idea what happened.
He got hit with one right hand early in the fight and just had no idea what happened.
Yeah, that's, you know, we don't, you know, that's why it drives me crazy when someone will call a fighter a pussy, or this guy, you know, he never brings it, he fights like a wet blanket.
You go get your fucking brains rearranged, son.
You go get someone's shin kicking you up the side of the head.
You know, there's a lot of guys that criticize guys for being boring.
You know, it doesn't bother me at all.
I mean, maybe I don't necessarily want to see them, but I respect what they're doing.
I respect, like, Antonio McKee.
A lot of guys give him a lot of shit, you know?
Because he, you know, he kind of, like, wrestles guys to the ground.
He never gets into, like, stand-up exchanges with guys too much and doesn't take any damage.
But that's the key.
He doesn't take any damage.
Yeah, it might not be the most exciting thing in the world, but if you want to fight, really, that's a smart way to fight, man.
Smart way to fight is just close shop.
Close everything.
There'll be no one punching.
There'll be no nothing.
There'll be you on your back and me punching you a little bit here and again, but nothing crazy because I don't want to get submitted, and then I'll win every fight.
You know, it's not the smartest way to do it because it's a sport and you're also marketing yourself.
It's entertainment, but I understand it.
I'll never call one of those guys a pussy.
It's a smart way to fight, man.
joey diaz
What'd you think of these fights this last weekend?
joe rogan
It was tough matchups, you know.
First of all, the Damian Maia-Weidman fight.
Weidman cut a shitload of weight.
He took that fight on 11 days notice, and you could tell when he was in there.
He struggled.
And even Ray Longo gave it away in the corner.
Ray Longo said, you know, I saw what you went through yesterday.
I saw what you did yesterday.
You can do this.
They said that his cut was horrific.
But that kid is so fucking tough.
He just did it, and he went out there, and he grinded on Maya, and he won a decision.
But you could tell by the end of the first round, he was dead.
He was dead walking.
And Maya, luckily for him, was dead too.
Maya looked like really, like, I heard he had a flu or something like earlier in the week.
He did not look good either.
So both guys, it was a real endurance issue.
You know, like I was talking to Jeremy Piven and Jeremy Piven was like laughing about it.
You know, 'cause I didn't interview them.
And he's like, would you have said to them, so it's safe to say endurance was an issue in this fight?
'Cause it really was like, it was kind of, you know, it wasn't the best fight to showcase MMA, you know?
But it was just a circumstantial situation.
There's nothing you could do about it.
You got one guy who's a fucking stud wrestler with all this goddamn potential.
That Chris Weidman could be the king of the world someday.
He could be the John Jones of 185 pounds.
He's a beast.
He's a wicked wrestler.
He puts guys to sleep.
He put Tom Lawler to sleep with that fucking darts choke.
He's nasty, man.
He's strong as fuck.
I saw him fight Galvao in Abu Dhabi.
He avoided everything.
And he got Galvao in a fucking darts and didn't tap him.
But the fact that he was able to sink it in and lock it up and had Galvao fighting to get his legs under him and to defend, pretty fucking impressive for a dude as a wrestler.
I mean, I don't know what his...
I don't know what the Brazilian Jiu Jitsu rank is, but he's one of those kids that, you know, he's really fucking strong-willed, really smart, and he's just a winner.
There's some dudes that are just winners, man.
They could have a torn meniscus, they could have a fucking herniated disc, they take you down anyway.
They take you down anyway, and they still strangle you while they're in pain.
There's dudes that can just force through shit like that, and Weidman's one of those, man.
He's a fucking animal.
And then Damien Maia, you know what I think about Maia, man?
He's in limbo right now.
Because Maia, at one point in time, was just taking everybody down and strangling them.
He was all jiu-jitsu.
And that's when everybody loved him.
He was nasty.
But somewhere along the line, he figured, you know what?
These Nate Marquarts, these guys I can't take down, they beat the fuck out of me standing.
I gotta get my stand-up better.
But in doing that, his jiu-jitsu is just not the same.
It's not what it used to be.
You know, he submitted Chael Sonnen, he submitted Ed Herman, he submitted all these guys.
He was strangling people, man.
And it was nasty.
When he got you on the ground, you were a fucksville.
eddie bravo
And he pulled guard on those guys.
unidentified
Yeah.
eddie bravo
He just uses the pole guard now.
joe rogan
Cheo Sonneny hit him with a fucking lateral drop.
You remember?
I mean, he was nasty!
But his stand-up is not good.
He's mechanical.
Like, he moves like the whitest guy on earth.
You know what I mean?
Like, if you look at the way he moves around, he's got like this.
And he does the same thing over and over again.
He paws with the right and then throws the left.
Paws with the right and then throws the left.
It's way too predictable.
That guy needs to, if he really wants to work on a stand-up, he needs to go to Holland and just hang out with Tyrone Spong for a year.
Just do what that guy does.
Move the way that guy does.
Go train with Gokhan Saki.
Go to Mike's gym and work out with Melvin Manhoof.
See the way those guys move?
You've got to move like that.
Imitate them.
Move the way they're moving.
Do those kind of combinations.
Maybe your body doesn't exactly move the way that body moves, but try to emulate it.
The best strikers all have a particular style.
Like, especially kickboxers, they all have a particular style.
You watch Manhood fight, he moves and he throws feints, he throws feints, boom, and he throws kicks.
He's got a very particular way of moving.
And the way of moving is the way of an elite striker.
You know a dude, like when you see a...
What's that dude's name?
Chael Sanderson.
You ever see that dude wrestle?
When that dude gets low and he moves on dudes, there's guys that you look at them.
You look at the move around on the mat, you go, that's a fucking killer.
You know, like Mark Schultz back in the day?
You would look at Mark Schultz move around and you're like, that is a killer.
There's a certain way that guy moves.
You're like, that's an elite wrestler, no doubt about it.
There's a way he hits those takedowns.
It's elite.
You've got to imitate those guys.
If you want to be a real striker, you've got to figure out what those guys are doing in.
Figure out that style and then do it.
Apply it to MMA. But you've got to imitate the way they move.
And right now, Damien Maia does not move the way those elite strikers move.
He's so good at jiu-jitsu.
I know that he could be good at everything else.
But it's a leap.
And at 32 years of age, it's tricky.
Is that what he is?
About 32?
eddie bravo
I'm not sure how old he is.
But I really think that...
That him eliminating the pulling guard strategy has really hindered his game.
I mean, there's only three things you can do in a fight.
You can fight standing with a dude, you can try to take the guy down, or you can pull guard.
That's all you can do.
And Damian Maia always had that third option.
Most MMA fighters, most UFC fighters, aren't good at that third option.
Their guard isn't dangerous enough to pull and attack.
Look at Paul Harris.
Paul Harris, that he...
Who was the guy he beat?
Did he put her in a leg lock?
joe rogan
Oh, Massenzio.
eddie bravo
Yeah, that guy.
That guy could have been an Olympic wrestler and a K-1 champion.
And it didn't matter to Paul Harris.
He took that out of the equation.
He took a little shot and he pulled guard and went right after his legs.
He bypassed the superior wrestling.
He bypassed the superior striking.
He had the third option.
Most fighters don't have that third option.
Damian Maia was one of the few that did have the third option.
If he was having trouble on his feet...
And he couldn't take the guy down, which comes up all the time.
Having trouble on your feet, can't take the dude down.
If you don't have that third option, you're going to just stand up and either lose a decision or get knocked out, and that's it.
joe rogan
I would love to see Paul Harris and Damian Maia.
eddie bravo
And remember, at the height of Damian Maia, he was pulling guard.
He was taking shots.
If he didn't take them down, he would pull guard.
He would sweep them, get on top, and attack.
joe rogan
Yeah.
eddie bravo
He's not doing that no more.
He decided.
Someone convinced him that just be a striker.
Just stand up.
Try to take a guy down.
There's so many guys out there that he's not going to be able to take down.
And there's so many guys that he's not going to be able to strike with.
joe rogan
Like Weidman.
eddie bravo
Yeah.
joe rogan
What are you going to do?
And you know what?
He was tired.
Both guys weren't in the best shape for that fight.
They both obviously had some sort of physical issue.
But if he didn't, if Weidman was at his best, it's a terrible fight for him.
It's a terrible fight.
He's not going to take that guy down.
eddie bravo
But if he would have been the old Damien Maia where he would have taken a shot, he would have sprawled, he would have pulled guard.
His guard is dangerous enough in submissions and sweeps where he could have did something to Weidman, but he took that out of the equation and then he decided to kickbox with him.
And now all those years of jujitsu, he's so good at jujitsu, it's not even in the game.
It's a kickboxing match.
Why would you do that?
If you can't take the guy down...
Drag him down.
Otherwise, you have to kickbox, and Maia's not a kickboxer.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's so stupid.
eddie bravo
Look at Paul Harris.
Look at Paul Harris.
What he did, he took a lazy shot.
The guy sprawled.
He sprawled right into guard.
Went right to a leg lock.
The fight was over and done.
joe rogan
Those leg locks are ridiculous, dude.
His legs are ridiculous.
I was watching him move around.
I was like, this dude has grapefruit stuffed into his calves.
There's no way his calves really look like that.
eddie bravo
Nobody's built like Paul Harris.
People should watch that fight, Paul Harris' last fight, and look at that as a serious way out of a fight that you're having trouble in.
If you're in a fight and you're beating him standing, fuck it.
Stay standing.
You got this motherfucker.
Don't take him down.
If you can take him down...
It's pretty easy to take him down.
Take him down.
Get on top.
But if you can't strike with him and you can't take him down, which comes up in so many fights, it's so common, you got to have your guard dangerous enough so that you can pull guard, either with leg locks, you know, whatever.
Look what Paul Harz did.
Look at early Maya.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's got to figure it out, but too bad.
His jiu-jitsu is awesome.
It's awesome.
The old days, watching him is awesome.
He's definitely got to figure it out, though.
It's a fucking crazy game, man, that fight game.
It's a ridiculous game.
Ridiculous way to make a living, man.
We want to talk about the craziest, most dangerous way outside of war to make a living.
That's it, right?
joey diaz
Can you imagine getting punched in the face every day in training?
joe rogan
Yeah, I can.
joey diaz
Can you fucking imagine that shit?
joe rogan
I can, for sure.
joey diaz
Every fucking day.
Ten fucking years.
joe rogan
I remember when I first...
The thing that really got me thinking about what kind of damage striking does to your head was when I started transitioning from Taekwondo to kickboxing, man.
Because I was a novice.
My striking was not very good.
My hands were not good.
I could punch hard, but I didn't really know how to box yet.
And I would go in there with guys who did know how to box.
And even if they weren't punching you hard, they were hitting you a lot.
And you just go home and you're fucking...
I would lie in bed and my head would throb.
And it's that terrible feeling.
I'm like, what am I doing in my brain?
You know, this can't be good.
Lying in bed with headaches after a sparring session, that shit can't be good.
And you'd go everywhere, the light would hurt.
Like, and I'd wear sunglasses because the light would, like, hurt when your head is pounding from getting punched in the head.
Shit is so bad for you.
eddie bravo
That's why jujitsu is so beautiful.
You get the thrill of the kill, yet there's no brain damage.
joe rogan
Except, you know, the guy who scares everybody the most is Paul Harris.
Because everybody else just kind of taps you out.
Paul Harris rips your legs apart.
He rips dude's legs apart.
I mean, he just gets a hold of your leg and like, sorry, you ain't walking right anymore.
That's it.
Your leg's fucked for like a year.
unidentified
Good luck.
brendan schaub
He might be the first guy to leg lock his way to the top.
eddie bravo
Because if he just keeps doing what he's doing...
What is he doing?
He's not really striking too much with dudes.
A little bit.
He's just gonna shoot and you're gonna sprawl because his shot wasn't that good.
He's not a wrestler.
And then he's gonna pull guard right into your legs.
So what are you gonna do against that?
You can work on your takedown defense all fucking day till your head explodes.
He's gonna pull guard on you.
He's taking all your wrestling and just throwing it out in fucking garbage.
All your striking, you're wasting your motherfucking time.
He's just gonna take a shot and pull guard.
joe rogan
He's a beast.
eddie bravo
It's an amazing talent and skill to work on and not, I don't think, that many fighters, well, I know not that many fighters are working on it and more should.
joe rogan
They should really explore.
How much did you love Chicago this week?
Did you have a great fucking time?
joey diaz
My head's still fucking spinning.
joe rogan
God damn, we had fun, right?
joey diaz
That fucking stage, man, it was overwhelming.
joe rogan
That was one of the best shows we've ever done.
I think it was the best show we ever did.
joey diaz
You know, when I walked on stage, I had a stutter step for a second.
Like the weed and the fucking stage hit me all at one shot.
I couldn't digest it.
My brain, it was like I had a little bit of concussion for the first three minutes.
It was very surreal.
And then once I got my timing going, it was all over.
But it was very surreal at first.
I couldn't absorb it.
I'm used to doing a theater with a bottom and a top.
Not a bottom, a top and another top on top of that and another top on top of that.
Filled to the brim and the people are fucking yelling.
They know who the fuck you are.
The energy level, you know, little Esther's parents, just everything about the show.
joe rogan
It was nuts.
joey diaz
The line afterward.
brian redban
I heard little Esther's parents didn't want her to take her to the UFC. They didn't want to take her.
joe rogan
They just didn't want to drive.
She lives about 40 minutes outside of where the UFC was.
They didn't want to drive and go through the traffic, and the traffic was nuts.
brian redban
Were they nice parents?
joe rogan
Yeah, they were nice.
joey diaz
Nice people.
joe rogan
I mean, nice to us.
I don't know what they did to her to make her Little Lester.
joey diaz
Great limo driver, Damien, fucking great guy.
joe rogan
Dan, Dan.
Yeah, he's awesome.
Yeah, she was, she fucking killed, dude.
brian redban
Did she?
joe rogan
Esther killed, and she went on after Joey.
Joey lit the place on fire, and then Little Lester goes up, and I mean, she had a fucking killer set, dude.
She's got some great jokes.
She's...
I really...
I mean, I said this to her parents, and I'm not bullshitting.
I go, she's way funnier than I was at her age.
She's way better than I was at her age.
She's gonna be a killer, man.
You know, she's right now...
What is she, 23 or something like that?
How old is she?
brian redban
Yeah, 23. 23?
joey diaz
She's a little kid.
I was blown away.
The night was great.
The fans were great.
The people I talked to were great.
But my night was made...
With little Esther.
Her parents were there.
I don't have parents.
How great is that for your parents to come see you in a theater?
And not just your parents seeing you.
Anybody can see you when you're on HBO and you got your hour.
I'm talking about the night that it hit you.
It hit their parents finally what their daughter was really doing.
You know, you come home as a kid and you're like, Dad, I want to fucking jump off planes.
What?
You're going to come work in the factory with me?
That's it.
unidentified
What?
joey diaz
Nobody in this family ever jumped off the fucking planes?
Fuck you.
You're going to die.
And for two years, that's all you get is torture.
And then finally, something.
You know, and every family has it.
I'm not going to come see you.
You know, your father's not going to come see you.
He doesn't approve of you boxing.
And all of a sudden, one night, your father does come.
And you know what?
She just wasn't with Janine Garofalo and a bunch of girls.
She was with Killers.
She was with Marines from the Comedy Store Boot Camp Training.
They went to Camp Pendleton.
I followed Paul Mooney.
She was there.
So I seen her growth right there.
When she got off stage, her little face.
I had tears in my eyes, dog.
I was so excited for her because you can't describe that.
Her parents were there, bro.
joe rogan
Yeah, it was incredible.
It was the best show we ever did, for sure.
The biggest show we ever did, too.
I've never sold out that many people.
We sold out that whole place.
It was like 3,300 seats or something like that.
eddie bravo
Holy shit.
joe rogan
It was nuts.
eddie bravo
That's nice, man.
3,300 is giant, right?
joe rogan
It's giant.
I got videos of it.
I've got videos of it.
eddie bravo
It's got to be a record, right?
brian redban
You saw another guy that had a Death Squad tattoo also.
joe rogan
Yeah, another guy who had a Death Squad tattoo.
joey diaz
Death Squad tattoos, Joey Diaz shirts.
I mean, it was just fucking overwhelming.
joe rogan
Hey, Brian, I'm going to email you this.
You can put this on the thing.
joey diaz
It was very, it was very just inspired.
Just the fucking, I had a hot beef Italian sausage combo sandwich that I almost stayed there.
I almost fucking moved there, Red Band, with hot and sour peppers, hot and sweet peppers from Mr. Beef.
I mean, this shit was fucking delicious.
The restaurant I went to the first night was delicious.
The fucking Fogo, the second night we went to that steakhouse, the third night.
It was just fucking, my asshole on Sunday smelled like I had firecrackers in there.
Like I had gunpowder in my shit.
They put heavy duty meat They put heavy-duty gunpowder in the meat in Chicago.
That cattle is the real fucking deal.
They got Decker in it.
My asshole, I had to light candles in the fucking hotel.
It was horrid.
joe rogan
Joey and I, we were staying in a corner of the hotel.
We had a door that would go into this area, and then he had a door, and I had a door.
We had two doors.
It was our door to get into our little area, and then we each had an individual door.
I would open up my door.
Chicago, by the way, is fucking 30 degrees outside.
He's got his windows open and you hear the wind whistling in like a haunted house.
So I would open up the door and literally it would sound like there was a fucking hurricane going on in the next room.
joey diaz
And do you know I was still sweating at night?
joe rogan
You gotta go to a doctor, son.
joey diaz
I was still sweating in the bottle.
joe rogan
That shit ain't good.
joey diaz
Listen, Doug, I walked into the doctor's office yesterday for my pre-op.
I walked in there at a quarter to nine.
I hadn't smoked reefer.
Didn't smoke reefer the night before.
Had ten hours of sleep.
Drank water.
I was relaxed.
You know what my blood pressure was at 845 in the morning?
What?
185 over 100. Is that good?
No!
brian redban
That's horrible.
joey diaz
That's fucking murder.
brian redban
Yeah.
joey diaz
Then after they took the blood out, it went down to like 140 over 90. And that's okay, but it's still not fucking acceptable.
You know what I'm saying?
unidentified
Yeah.
joey diaz
My engine runs hot all the fucking time.
I take the medication.
I take the...
joe rogan
Well, you lost a shitload of weight at one point in time.
joey diaz
Don't matter.
joe rogan
How much did you put back on?
20. That's it?
joey diaz
That's it.
I'm 295. I was even in shock yesterday.
I was even in shock yesterday.
But some of the weight I put back, I lifted, I replaced some.
My legs are strong again.
I mean, I'm trying to fucking really do this.
I really want to get in shape.
You could be an in-shape fat dude.
You know what I'm saying?
It can't be hanging over in your titties and shit like that.
But you could try to...
That's why I told the doctor yesterday.
He goes, you know, one thing about you is I know you really try.
I really fucking try at this.
You know what I'm saying?
I take my pills.
I drink a lot of water.
I really fucking try at this.
So the fucking diet...
Let me tell you something.
I count my points.
I still write the points down.
But if I'm in Chicago with Joe Rogan, hey, you're not going to go to Fogo the Child.
Wait, watch this because I suck my dick.
You know what I'm saying?
You know what?
We're not having the desserts no more.
We had no dessert all weekend.
We always had a fucking salad.
We always eat salad, mixed greens.
You're trying the best that you fucking can.
For breakfast, I eat fucking oatmeal.
joe rogan
I'm real careful about not eating too much before a show, but we had like two hours.
joey diaz
Yeah, we had two hours.
That's what fucking fucks with me.
They won't put me on the anivar for my knee.
Because my blood pressure.
There's no fucking way.
I knew that from the jump.
You don't need to be no fucking genius.
joe rogan
Yeah, you need to get yourself in a little bit better shape, huh?
unidentified
No, no, no.
joey diaz
I just gotta figure something out for the blood pressure.
I either gotta fucking...
joe rogan
Go on a straight vegetable diet.
joey diaz
No!
You pushing a vegetarian on me?
unidentified
Come on.
joe rogan
That's the best way to trim your body down.
Lose body fat.
eddie bravo
What's the biggest you've been?
joey diaz
415. Jesus Christ.
joe rogan
You were 100 pounds plus more than you were.
eddie bravo
Was that when you did the intro?
unidentified
Yeah.
eddie bravo
Because you look like a different person.
joe rogan
How do you know?
joey diaz
I probably gained 20 pounds after that.
joe rogan
When you're that big, how do you know?
Because you go to a regular scale.
joey diaz
How do you know?
joe rogan
I don't know.
joey diaz
I stopped looking at it.
And I would go to gyms.
And I would put it all the way to 350. And it would just go kink!
So after a while, I would measure it by the kink, how fast it went, kink!
joe rogan
That's how you measure it?
unidentified
That's about 420. No, I didn't know.
joey diaz
Trust me, dog.
I always kept thinking 380, 390, and then I went to a fucking heart doctor, and they got the meat scale.
Over on Century City.
joe rogan
They got a meat scale.
joey diaz
They got the fucking meat scale.
They got the thing where they give you the pre-heart attack.
Where they shoot the speeding.
You get on the fucking bicycle.
And start running and shit.
And that day I was 4 fucking 15. Oh my god.
joe rogan
So that's the biggest he ever won.
joey diaz
That was November.
Of 2009 or something?
And then he goes, come back in January and we either put you on a diet that fucking, you know, the lap band, whatever.
And I was, you know, I'm scared of needles.
That's a couple times you gotta go see that motherfucker.
joe rogan
It's not just a scared of needle thing.
The people break those things.
How many times has Ralphie had that operation?
joey diaz
Ralphie had the other, yeah, the other one, the bypass.
joe rogan
Yeah, but he broke it though, right?
joey diaz
He busted.
The needle snapped.
joe rogan
Well, he made a smaller stomach.
unidentified
Ha!
joe rogan
They made him a smaller stomach, and then he broke through it somehow or another.
joey diaz
Right, something weird happened.
joe rogan
He overstuffed himself.
I don't know.
Didn't you have him on your podcast recently?
joey diaz
Yes, he was very good.
joe rogan
Talk about how he almost died?
joey diaz
Yeah, he was very good, man.
joe rogan
Yeah, what did he say?
joey diaz
It was just one of those fucking things.
He was burnt out.
joe rogan
Do you look at a guy like that and go, as long as this bitch is alive, I'm okay.
brian redban
That's your canary bird?
joey diaz
No.
joe rogan
Is he your canary in a coal mine?
joey diaz
You know what, man?
I know how hard it is for him to travel.
I know what it was like to get on a plane when you're 415 pounds.
And the seatbelt don't even fit in fucking first class, okay?
I know what it's like, how to walk out, how your joints hurt.
That's why I love these personal trainers that, you know, I go to North Hollywood Park and I got a guy 400 pounds walking around the park.
It's not going to work, my friend.
It's going to last three weeks and he's going to tap out the joint pain.
Is unbearable.
Put him in a fucking pool and make him eat vegetables and shit like that, you know?
And I know what it's like to sleep.
joe rogan
Is that what it is?
A joint pain?
That's the real issue with being that heavy.
joey diaz
It's amazing.
It's amazing.
And every time you fucking fly, your ankles swell up.
And he's flying two, eight times a fucking week.
You know, Ralphie?
joe rogan
He's constantly flying, right?
Constantly flying.
Is he on the road every week?
joey diaz
He's on the road already.
joe rogan
How bad is it?
He's on the road already?
joey diaz
He's in Tempe for Super Bowl weekend.
Eight fucking shows, the whole fucking kid.
joe rogan
So he stopped smoking weed?
joey diaz
He stopped smoking weed.
joe rogan
Is he eating it?
joey diaz
Nothing.
unidentified
No weed?
joey diaz
He can't do nothing.
joe rogan
Oh, that's so sad.
eddie bravo
Wait, he stopped because of what?
joey diaz
He had like blood clots in his lung or something like that.
joe rogan
How would weed hurt that?
joey diaz
It affected his lungs.
joe rogan
We did?
All the smoke in it?
joey diaz
The smoke in it and the fucking flying and the fucking, you know, not breathing.
It adds up after a while.
joe rogan
I would think it would make all that traveling fun.
joey diaz
You know, they do all these tests on marijuana.
They do tests on a guy like Eddie Bravo, who's a normal weight yourself.
When you add 400 pounds, it's got to do something to your fucking lungs.
When your lungs are this big and you're trying to...
What's going on?
joe rogan
Brian.
That's what's going on.
joey diaz
The show is going too well.
brian redban
I found treasure.
joey diaz
It affects you at every level, man.
The reefer is just something that they told him to stop smoking as a precautionary measure.
joe rogan
Well, I think smoking anything is probably not so fucking good for your body.
There's no evidence that it causes cancer.
It's very different from tobacco smoke.
We have smoke all put in the same category, but it's not.
joey diaz
It's not.
joe rogan
But, there's other options.
joey diaz
It's gotta do something to you to pot smoke.
I've been smoking weed for 30 years.
I've coughed, I've spit fucking colors, fucking smurfs, the whole thing.
Something's got to be going on when you're alone.
You know, these people sit there and say, well, Harvard did a research.
Yeah, that's great.
It's got to do something to you.
Nothing is fucking free.
You got to pay somewhere along the fucking line.
So knock the fuck off reading high time, some scientist with a beard with sandals on.
I don't give a fuck.
I'm telling you that somewhere along the line, smoking for fucking 30 years, I've been smoking weed for fucking 30 years.
And I'll tell you what, I know for a fact, I got that C-O-P-D. I know for a fact, I got it.
O-C-D? No, P-O-C-D. What's P-O-C-D? That shit with your lungs, when you hear little bells and whistles in your lungs.
So what I do, you know, when you breathe.
unidentified
What?
joey diaz
Right now, you're talking about M-E-T-H? You ever hear me breathing on the fucking, you ever hear me breathe, hey, hey, hey, stupid little.
unidentified
Yeah.
joey diaz
You ever hear me breathing on the microphone?
You ever do anything fucking stupid?
You ever do a thing on the microphone and you go, Joe, I hear you breathing?
Do you hear you breathing?
Do you hear Eddie breathing?
That's COPD or something.
So what I usually do is, look at the fuck up.
Don't look at him with that fucking look.
joe rogan
Well, if I knew the exact acronym.
brian redban
Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease.
joey diaz
That's what it is.
Remember I used to take the steroid that I used to breathe in, and it gives you fucking, like, you eat...
joe rogan
Oh, that, like, Avodar?
joey diaz
Yeah, yeah.
And then remember I said that the one doctor said I might have asthma?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
joey diaz
So what I used to do is whenever I'd hear the bells and whistles, you just go run around three laps.
Poof.
Cleans it out.
unidentified
Really?
joey diaz
I've been doing that for years.
Whenever I hear a bell and whistle, that means you ain't walking enough, cocksucker.
Get on the bell.
Blow the whistle.
joe rogan
Did you see that thing that Brian's got?
You've seen that?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
Whatever.
joey diaz
That's great.
That's great.
But you just got to get out and walk.
Forget computers and all that shit.
unidentified
You're right.
joe rogan
You're right.
But the beautiful thing about that is it tells you exactly what you're doing.
You can't bullshit yourself.
It tells you how much sleep you're doing.
brian redban
And if you think you need it and you don't have any money, just write on a piece of paper your lazy fucking put in your pocket.
That's what I've realized that what I do.
I look at it and I'm like, oh shit, I'm lazy.
I know this already.
I could have saved myself $100.
joe rogan
And so it's not changing your habits at all?
brian redban
No, I can see myself trying to beat my score before.
I can kind of see that.
But unfortunately, I just have this lifestyle that I'm so fucking busy that the only way that I can change that is just to make sure I work out every day.
Where this is more like for people that I guess have time.
More time to try to jog more.
joe rogan
Brian is totally doing a totally different approach to what we're doing.
Brian is working out solely so that he can get more pussy.
joey diaz
That's fine.
joe rogan
That's his issue.
joey diaz
That's why 60% of people take fucking steroids that aren't athletic.
How many times you go to a bar and there's 18 guys looking around, you think they're going for Mr. Olympia, and you're like, where do you live, Glendale?
So what's all these weights for?
For what?
To do what?
To be a bartender for 100 a night at the fucking local club?
Ah, to pick up pussy.
joe rogan
That's a lot of it.
joey diaz
Do you do steroids?
Not really.
No, you just look like a fucking tree trunk.
You know, but you don't do steroids.
Okay, you're like the Barbarian Brothers.
I ate 36 eggs for the last three years every fucking day.
joe rogan
Well, Brian is just doing it to keep up.
He's got a freak on the line.
joey diaz
That's what he's got to do.
brian redban
I need a couple more power bars.
joey diaz
Listen, most people don't get fucking serious until they get rushed to the hospital.
This obesity fucking epidemic in this country is until you get rushed to the fucking hospital with a tube coming out of your ass.
Then you'll be at the gym doing jumping jacks, bro.
Or you're going to fucking die.
joe rogan
When did it affect you?
When did you really start thinking, I got to do something?
joey diaz
When my fucking spine was hurting when I do blow.
unidentified
Whoa!
joe rogan
Whoa!
joey diaz
The back of my neck was fucking going...
When I would do blow, when I would have to wear underwear to go to the gym because I would piss my pants because I couldn't catch my breath when I was throwing punches with McAfoli.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
joey diaz
That's when I fucking realized it.
And I knew that I wasn't going to get the operation.
That was not going to fucking work at all.
So I knew that I had to just eat right.
joe rogan
You just can't deal with the idea of it.
You were also talking about it like it was a weak thing to do.
joey diaz
What?
Working out?
joe rogan
The operation.
joey diaz
No, yeah!
Because people think in this country everything...
Bro, look at our fucking kids we got now.
A kid has a fucking bad day, they put him on a fucking pill.
And then when they get old and the computer crashes, now I gotta put them on another, they have a nervous breakdown.
You go to Little League and fucking Sherman Oaks.
You know, you can't yell at the kids to strike or you suck or swing.
These kids are fucking pampered.
That's why half of them are on fucking pills, guy.
So what you're trying to tell me is I could go to Burger King every night and eat like a fat fucking slob until I'm 35 and call Mr. Latband and get my shit together?
And that's what you're telling this country?
So half of these motherfuckers aren't going for the right thing.
When you're 400 pounds, you're not sick.
It's your character.
Something's fucking not right.
Something's not right.
So if you get up and walk to the corner every fucking day, eventually you're going to get bored walking to the corner, so you're going to walk another corner.
Then you're going to walk another corner, and next morning you're going to walk to the YMCA like I did, and you're going to get on the bicycle for five minutes.
Then it's ten minutes, and it all fucking helps out.
See, in my world, when you're a comic, you think that you only come home Mondays and Tuesdays.
So if I work out Mondays and Tuesdays, Eddie, what's that going to do for me?
Nothing.
Not true.
Even two days a week fucking helps.
I didn't know that.
That's the mentality I took.
I'm like, you know what?
I'll fucking snort blow.
And the sick thing was I always kind of worked out.
I always lift the weights.
I always did fucking something.
You know what I'm saying?
That's why when I got sick, it bothered me.
But I felt like I was too much behind the eight ball.
joe rogan
So you're about to get knee surgery.
joey diaz
Fuck yeah!
And I'm ready.
I fainted yesterday on the way up from the fucking...
You don't even feel...
Let me tell you something.
It's 2012. These new vampires, you don't even feel the fucking needles.
They could fuck you in the ass 80 times and you won't even know it no more.
Listen, I put Santana on my iPod and I looked the other way.
And two minutes later, the bitch bent my fucking arm up.
I didn't feel the fucking needle.
I didn't feel the fucking needle.
joe rogan
So they let you put an iPod on?
joey diaz
I do it all the time.
When I go to the dentist, I put something on.
Why sit there and look at Bela Lugosi?
Every fucking dentist looks like Bela Lugosi to me when they're looking in your fucking mouth.
You know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
You don't feel rude, but just tuning out?
joey diaz
No, most dentists have TVs.
My fucking wife goes to a place that has fucking big screen TVs with headphones.
joe rogan
I stopped going to this one dentist because he would ask me stupid questions.
joey diaz
Yeah, no.
joe rogan
It was uncomfortable.
I'd have really bad conversations, clunky conversations with him.
joey diaz
When you got your fingers in my fucking mouth, what is there to talk about?
Listen, let's understand each other.
I'm going to lay back and open my mouth.
Tap me when I'm fucking done and I'll tap you if it hurts.
Because that's what they say.
Tap when you feel the drill or something.
You put the fucking iPod on, you close your eyes.
You're not in there.
Eddie Bravo, what's happening, cocksucker?
unidentified
What's up?
joey diaz
You're a month away from having a kid.
You're sitting there like fucking Buddha with no fucking food.
Talk to me, cocksucker.
I love it.
joe rogan
Are you ready for this, man?
joey diaz
Are you ready?
You gotta be fucking ready.
Don't tell me this shit.
Hell yeah.
You gotta be ready.
brian redban
Have you picked a name yet?
joey diaz
Don't tell me that you looked at a TV show on Discovery.
I want you to tell me you went to your uncle's house and changed some diapers.
eddie bravo
I've been wanting to have a kid for a while.
And we tried to, you know, this was planned.
This was not an accident.
I wanted a kid.
joey diaz
I'm proud of you.
I'm happy.
joe rogan
It's going to be a fascinating experience, man.
joey diaz
I see what it did for you.
I see what it did for you.
You're a different fucking man.
joe rogan
For sure.
Changed me as a human being.
joey diaz
First, it was the reefer.
When you came to me, you said you had the best ice cream sundae in your life the other night with Eddie Bravo.
The way you gave it to me, that was beautiful.
And then next thing you know, Mrs. Rogan came on the scene.
I've seen the whole evolution.
joe rogan
Dude, I will never forget the day Eddie Bravo got me high.
We went and had ice cream sundae, and I had the most massive revelation of my life.
I couldn't believe how goddamn good that ice cream sundae tasted.
joey diaz
I mean, for me and you, that was the first time you ever straightened up.
Before then, you were a fucking ape.
You were still bent over.
If I threw you a banana, you'd eat the fucking peel.
Seriously.
That day, after you ate that banana, Dairy Queen, you were back.
You were back.
Your chest was up and shit.
joe rogan
Well, you guys know me.
I don't know me as well as you guys know me.
joey diaz
Oh, please.
That was it.
You were walking on all floors until that fucking day.
joe rogan
I know I'm a different person.
I'm a lot more relaxed and everything, but it must have been interesting, much more for you to watch someone change their personality.
joey diaz
It's a fucking beautiful thing.
It's a fucking beautiful thing, man.
I love to see evolution.
I bet people watch it.
I love to watch people shut your fucking mouth.
Don't say nothing to him.
Let him walk into that hole.
joe rogan
I think coming from my background, doing martial arts competitions my whole life and then just transitioning right into comedy, I had never relaxed.
I never settled down.
I never learned how to just be calm.
My whole body, my brain, my personality all developed under duress.
It all developed under physical combat all the time on a regular basis.
Constant training, constant fights, constant tournaments.
That was my life from the time I was 15 till I was 22. All my formative years was all spent in stress.
And I remember when I first decided that I wasn't going to fight anymore, it was like the first time ever in my life, when I was like 22, my last kickboxing fights, the first time ever where I could relax.
I would always be nervous, like, when is the next tournament?
When's the next fight?
When's the next thing?
I gotta get in shape.
I can't be drinking this.
I can't be doing this.
Couldn't live my life because I was always worried about getting my ass kicked.
I was always worried about, like, I have to make sure that I do everything right.
I have to be prepared.
I don't want to get fucked up.
You know, so it's like, it's...
It wasn't the best mindset to go into stand-up comedy for.
That's for sure.
It's like a constant battle.
Because stand-up comedy, it's totally the opposite.
You've got to not give a fuck.
You've got to be relaxed.
You've got to have fun.
Instead of being tense and ready to go at any moment's notice.
brian redban
You sent me, by the way, whatever you sent me doesn't work.
joe rogan
One of them doesn't work.
The other two do.
Check your emails.
brian redban
Yeah, I just...
You sent me two things and both of them are like movies that are one second long.
unidentified
What?
Yeah.
joe rogan
Check it again, dude.
I know it's good.
I'll resend it, okay?
joey diaz
My fucking 15 to 22, my mind wasn't fighting.
I wasn't a fighter, but I was in a different type of hell.
I was in my own hell that I was putting myself into, you know?
And it's so weird that I became a comic, what, six, seven, eight years later or something like that, and how...
I took that wildness into the fucking comic and nobody understood what I was saying until I met you guys at the store.
I found the fucking home.
I used to travel on the road with Tribble and do all these little road things.
joe rogan
I remember when I first met you at the store, everybody was fucking terrified of you.
joey diaz
Yeah, I was crazy.
joe rogan
You and I, I remember being like the only guy, like when I first met you, that was like, he's great.
What are you talking about?
I love that guy.
And I was like, oh, here comes Joey Diaz.
Like, where's he at?
I like would gravitate towards you.
joey diaz
Oh, I was crazy.
joe rogan
Because you didn't scare me.
You were nice to me.
You know, you weren't a scary guy to me.
You were a regular dude.
You were like one of the only guys there that I could relate to.
There was like a lot of guys that I couldn't relate to.
I knew dudes like you.
You know, I mean, not you, but you and my friend Johnny B, the pool hustler, very similar characters, man.
Very, very similar characters.
You're both way out there.
You're both, like, not give a fuck guys, and you're both guys that were, like, polarizing.
Some people would love you to death, and then everybody, you know, there was a large group of people that, for whatever reason, they'd be upset at you.
Like, I remember having to defend you, even the Dom Herrera.
Even Dom Herrera was hating on you for a while.
joey diaz
Everybody.
And I loved it.
I fucking loved it.
Because that's why, you know, it's so weird that this whole surgery thing really taught me about fear.
My fear has fucking done wonders for me.
Because that's why when I wake up in the morning, that's the first thing I fucking do is grab my fucking cock.
Because for years I was scared.
I'm always insecure.
That immigrant fucking thing shizzled into my fucking mind since the streets of New York City with the white kid.
joe rogan
The immigrant thing?
joey diaz
The immigrant thing, not knowing the language, not feeling good enough like everybody else, not being a fucking American.
And it sits inside my fucking soul.
So, for me, everything has been rivered on fear.
Every time I get on stage, like the other night, fear was real in Chicago.
I got on stage in between the reefer and whatever was going on and the lights.
I got fearful, man.
But you know what?
That's normal to be scared.
That's a great emotion, especially when you're a stand-up comic.
Because the more scared you are, the better you're gonna fucking do.
Especially in my case.
The more riled up I am, two minutes before I go on stage, the more energy I'm gonna give that fucking audience.
But I've looked at my life and I've seen how much fear.
I was petrified to go get that fucking needle.
Even though I fucking knew nothing was gonna happen, I was gonna walk out of there.
But I went in, I took the needle, and after I walked out of that needle, I could have fucking killed ten fucking people with my bare hands.
Because you overcome one of your biggest fucking fears.
Till this day, I get little emails and people are like, you know, I suffer from a social disorder and I don't know what to do.
Well, the answer ain't taking a fucking pill.
It's checking your fucking confidence and grabbing your balls and walking into a circle and saying, fuck it, I'm here.
You know, my mentality was always go into the mouth of the lion and put a chair down and sit the fuck down.
And let the pieces fall where they may.
And if you're not going to live like that, fuck them all.
I'm at the store two fucking nights, Joe Rogan.
The first fucking night, Eddie Griffin bumps me.
You know how embarrassing that is?
You become a regular on a Sunday, the first fucking night you bring 11 people to come see you, your landlord comes, and you get bumped by Eddie Griffin.
And the second night I go up there and Steve Greenstein says to me, hey, last weekend you fucking auditioned here for Mitzi and you said one of my jokes.
I said, it's February fucking 11th.
I just come off a plane, January 29th, and you're already accusing me of being a fucking thief.
And remember, he had his violin case.
joe rogan
Who?
joey diaz
Steve Greenstein.
joe rogan
I don't remember him.
joey diaz
He was a creepy guy, older guy that hung out at the Comedy Store, and he had a violin case.
So this is a Tuesday night.
It's Black Night at the Comedy Store.
It's 8 o'clock.
The main room is packed, but the original room would be empty because people were scared to go up there on Black Night because they thought they were going to get fucking mugged.
So the original room was always empty.
So Steve Greenstein was up before me.
This is my second night at the Comedy Store, dog.
I just got to LA. I'm a fucking criminal.
I've been in prison.
I got all these problems.
But for the first time in my life, I got a little fucking daylight at the Comedy Store.
This lady made me a regular.
All my life, people were like, has Mitchie Shaw seen you?
Has Mitchie Shaw seen you?
She's going to make you a fucking regular.
I get down there.
I'm a regular.
This is the first time since my mother died I had any luck.
I had been in prison.
I had been divorced.
You know, shot.
The whole fucking deal.
And the next thing you know, I become a regular, and it's Tuesday night, and I get off stage, and I'm waiting to hang out for a little while, and Steve Greenstein comes up to me, and he says to me, Doug, one of your jokes is like my joke.
I said, which one?
He said, something about O.J. Simpson's maid.
I go, Doug, I didn't steal the joke from you.
I just fucking got here two weeks ago.
Wheels comes out, and he goes, this guy didn't steal the joke from you.
The only problem was the guy put the violin case behind his fucking legs, and I spotted it.
So he starts threatening him.
He's like, dog, the next time you do that joke, we're going to have a problem.
I just pushed him, Joe Rogan.
He fell over the violin case.
Well, as he's falling down, Mitzi's limo pulls up.
That's it.
I'm like, I'm done.
This is my life.
I'm fucking gone out of here.
I'm never going to get another fucking spot again.
I'm going to go back to sell and fucking blow.
And Wheels got between us.
Scott Day got between us.
And Mitzi came on and go, oh, what happened here?
And he started saying, he goes, no, this kid's Cuban, blah, blah, blah.
But Mitzi seen the kid on the floor and fell in love with me after that because I pushed that motherfucker.
Because I stuck up for myself.
joe rogan
Yeah, you got lucky.
She was crazy.
Sure!
joey diaz
If that happened at the fucking Improv, I would have been out on the fucking street.
joe rogan
How often did you perform at the Improv?
Not for a while.
joey diaz
In those days?
In those days every week because the guy, Richard Cooper, loved me, the talent coordinator.
Bro, I got to LA January 29th.
I was a regular at the store February 19th on my birthday.
I didn't fuck around this time when I got here.
But you couldn't do the improv, Mitzi found out.
But I went to Scott Day and said, dog, Richard Cooper gives me spots.
So I would go over there, and I had a couple problems over there right off the fucking bat.
People thought they were cute over there.
You know, you leave your fucking girlfriend in their seat, you go to the bathroom, you come back, they're talking to them like they know them.
joe rogan
That is an issue.
joey diaz
You know, it's a fucking issue.
You got to stop them like I told you, like Hitler in Munich.
If not, you're going to have a fucking problem, dog.
So I would say things to people.
All of a sudden, you're a bad fucking person.
So what the fuck?
I don't give a fuck.
And we're here 12 years later, and we're still rocking and rolling.
They can still suck my dick and call me shorty.
joe rogan
We're doing a show, if you're in town, Pasadena, this Thursday night.
Don't come if you're a stalker.
Thanks.
Pasadena, Ice House, Thursday night.
What time, Brian?
brian redban
It's 8.30.
Joey Diaz, Joe Rogan, Little Esther, and a bunch of other people.
And we also have a show Friday.
Go to IceHouseComedy.com for the tickets.
joe rogan
Oh, snap, freaks.
joey diaz
And Vegas, Friday night.
Eddie Bravo's coming.
He's going to play the drums and shit?
eddie bravo
You coming Friday night?
joe rogan
We're looking at the flights.
eddie bravo
We might go in a Saturday morning.
Not sure.
joe rogan
I'm driving next time I go to LA. I'm not driving this time.
Next time I go to LA, though, I'm driving.
joey diaz
Vegas.
Memorial Day weekend to see Juni Dos Santos against my man if he recovers from the surgery.
joe rogan
I'm tired of fucking flying, man.
One time.
joey diaz
Let's take the big fucking Cadillac Escalade.
Let's go out there.
joe rogan
I got a new one.
I got one of these new infinity things.
joey diaz
With the music and the whole fucking thing.
joe rogan
Hey, Brian, come here.
Help me export these things.
It's not exporting right.
joey diaz
But then they'll pull us over like Snoop Dogg, those cocksuckers.
Every time they see Snoop Dogg, he gets pulled over them.
joe rogan
If they smell you anywhere near them, we're going to jail.
It's right here.
joey diaz
Sup, EB? Oh, really?
What?
Rocker, shocker in the fucking house.
I retrieved the video.
Denny Plutupos is here.
Fresh off his fucking 19 wins this Sunday.
eddie bravo
Yeah, Gracie Nationals was an epic day for Temple.
joey diaz
Where was the Gracie Nationals at?
eddie bravo
The Gracie Nationals was...
I was in LA this past Sunday, and Rose Gracie, the granddaughter of Helio Gracie, the grandmaster of Gracie Jiu-Jitsu, she decided to go old school with the Gracie Nationals.
brendan schaub
She's been running it for the last few years, and she, you know, the whole point system that Jiu-Jitsu tournaments are run by are just ridiculous.
eddie bravo
I mean, it's just people are fighting for points and stalling, and it's ridiculous, and Rose Gracie decided to You know, make her the late great Helio Gracie proud and make it all just a submission-only tournament.
And these tournaments are becoming, this format is becoming more and more popular.
They do it in the Pacific Northwest at the Sub League in Oregon.
And they run smoothly.
People have been afraid of sub-only tournaments.
Tournaments because of time, you know, constraints and all that stuff.
But Rose Gracie made it work.
She had the balls to go.
No points, no advantages.
15 minutes submission only.
If you go 15 minutes without a submission, both competitors are out of the tournament.
So that's the ballsiest format there is out there.
And now the Gracie Nationals is the most prestigious submission only tournament on the planet.
And I think That's the future for jiu-jitsu because it was a lot more fun preparing for a submission-only tournament.
All we worked on was the fun stuff, the good stuff about jiu-jitsu, the finish, the closing the deal, the working on our squeeze.
For the Nogi Worlds, We had to spend time working on stalling techniques because when you're playing a point game and it's like six-minute matches, a guy will get a point or just a little advantage, which is even less than a point.
And once they're up, an advantage they'll hold.
And they won't do anything.
And people aren't used to...
You're wrestling with guys that are just holding on to leads.
In class, you don't just hold on to a lead.
No one's counting points in class.
So you actually have to prepare for that.
You have to specifically prepare for tournaments that are run by points.
And it's just so not fun preparing stalling techniques and stalling live drills.
What if a dude just holds on and doesn't do anything?
It's ridiculous.
So Rose Gracie decided to eliminate all of that.
And make the Gracie Nationals a submission-only tournament.
And she's also doing the Gracie Worlds.
In July, July 15th, in San Jose, you know, finally, you're gonna be able to get a world title.
In a submission-only format, which is the greatest.
It means so much more to win in a submission-only tournament than by points.
You're a world champion and you won by an advantage world champion.
Those days, it does nothing for The development of your jiu-jitsu.
It just gets you better at holding and stalling out and running out the clock.
It's just ridiculous.
So, mad huge props to Rose Gracie and her husband, Javi Vasquez, who put this tournament together and, you know, I think this is the future.
I think a submission-only format is the only way to go.
You know, we're taking bias refs completely out of the game.
The refs have nothing to do with the game.
joe rogan
So they have no time limits?
eddie bravo
No, well, there's no time limit in the final.
But in the qualifying matches, it's a 15-minute time limit, which is plenty of time.
And if there is no submission in those 15 minutes, both guys are out.
So it's amazing.
We had so many.
joe rogan
Both guys are out.
So if two guys are just like Marcelo Garcia and Jake Shields, they stall each other out.
eddie bravo
They're both out.
joe rogan
Whoa, that's crazy.
eddie bravo
But in the finals, no time limit.
We had some epic matches.
Epic matches.
10 Planet San Francisco went 12-1.
I had about, you know, maybe...
joe rogan
How many affiliates you got now?
eddie bravo
I got over 30. I lose track.
joe rogan
Isn't that crazy?
You started out just doing it as something to do.
You know, like, man, what should I do?
Maybe I could teach now.
And then, boom.
Now you got like an empire.
eddie bravo
Man, it was all an accident.
joe rogan
It's weird.
Isn't it weird?
eddie bravo
I thought that when we were working on The Man Show, we were going to parlay that into some Trey Parker, Matt Stone shit.
joey diaz
It was all a dream.
I used to read Word Up magazine.
joe rogan
Salt and pepper heavy D up in the limousine.
The next thing we're going to do is we're going to get a fucking comedy club.
I decided while I was taking a shit today, high as fuck on the toilet bowl.
That's the next move.
The next move is a reality show about...
About this fucking place.
About doing a podcast and doing a comedy club and having it all connected.
The way we do it, man, when we have this show Thursday night, we have podcasts going on at the same time as the comedy show.
And everybody just rotates in.
It's the greatest fucking thing we've ever done.
The greatest thing we've ever done.
The perfect thing.
You go on stage, man, you're already flowing.
Like, you gotta go on stage right now.
unidentified
Boom!
joey diaz
Yeah, you'll be on fire.
joe rogan
Have you told the Lucy Snorebush story?
What is her name?
joey diaz
Lucy Snorebush.
joe rogan
If you told that Lucy Snorebush story and then went on stage right now, you would be in prime.
joey diaz
That is the most ridiculous fucking thing I've ever told.
joe rogan
It's the greatest story of all time.
People want Lucy Snorebush t-shirts.
joey diaz
Oh my God.
joe rogan
I broke into Lucy Snorebush's room and ate her ass in the middle of the night.
They want that t-shirt.
joey diaz
Oh my fucking God.
joe rogan
Yeah, it was ridiculous.
joey diaz
We've got some yells on here.
And then we got Vegas Friday fucking night?
joe rogan
Yeah.
We were in Chicago.
Like I said, this was the biggest show we had ever done.
And it was pretty crazy.
I made a video of how fucking crazy it was.
Brian, throw that shit up.
Look how big this place is.
I don't know if you can tell.
unidentified
Look at the size of this place.
Wow.
brian redban
How long did you do?
joe rogan
An hour and 22 minutes.
We stayed outside and signed pictures for fucking hours, man.
I had to pay those security.
I had to pay like 2,000 extra dollars in security because I had to keep them around.
That's incredible.
Union is like laws.
They have rules.
You have to pay people.
Play the second one.
The second video is ridiculous.
We were...
This is when we were signing, and this is all just a line of people that were waiting to take pictures with Joey and Duncan and sign posters.
Mike Maxwell made a poster just for the event, and check this shit out.
This is...
brian redban
Hold on one second.
joe rogan
Okay.
This is bonkers, man.
This is when we were in the upstairs balcony area.
This place is fucking huge, the Chicago Theater.
At one point in time, it was a silent movie house.
joey diaz
It was built in 1921. Sinatra performed there in 87. Little Esther's father took the mother there to see Sinatra in 87. Holy shit.
When he was forgetting his lyrics and the wig was crooked and shit.
But he was still motherfucking Sinatra, Jack.
He was still banging bitches two of the time.
joe rogan
Sinatra died before Viagra kicked in.
He missed the boat.
He missed the boat.
Those grumpy old men, they couldn't get any pussy anymore.
There was no reason to perform.
You know?
It was all over.
Even though he was Sinatra, he only got a hard-on like once a month at the end.
joey diaz
He was still getting pussy with the wig like a pimp, dog.
unidentified
Look at this.
Thanks for coming out, everybody!
joe rogan
Can you rotate that, Brian?
There's obviously something wrong with the iPhone, the way the iPhone interpreted it.
Can't you rotate that?
brian redban
No, not on the fly.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
But look how nutty that is.
brian redban
You know why it does that, right, Jeff?
joe rogan
Because it's a piece of shit?
brian redban
No, no, no.
Before you hit record, look at the icon.
If it's tilted sideways, it's going to record it sideways.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
Look how nutty that is, man.
That's just all the people waiting to get into line to take pictures and shit.
That was a fun fucking time.
joey diaz
Thank you.
joe rogan
That one dirty freak that pulled her tits out and had everybody sign her tits.
joey diaz
Tremendous.
She had great tits.
Don't put it down.
They were nice 24-year-old firm little fucking chi-chis and shit.
She was a freak.
She had a little boyfriend that looked like fucking, what's the guy you like?
Bruno Mars.
And this freak was ready to go, Jack!
joe rogan
Yeah, didn't somebody throw that guy under the bus?
Who was it?
brian redban
Jaden James used to date.
Is that Bruno Mars that sings that song?
joe rogan
Yeah, well, it's Bruno Mars and the other guy, right?
There's two guys.
Who's the other one?
brian redban
I can't remember.
joe rogan
There's the rapper guy and then the singer guy.
Which one is which?
Great fucking tune, whoever the hell it is.
Did you hear about those English people that got arrested at the airport?
brian redban
No.
joe rogan
You didn't hear about this shit?
Dude, it's one of the fucking weakest things I've ever heard ever about the TSA. It's sad what this country has become.
These English people, they were coming over here for a vacation, so they joked around and they said, hey...
We're going to go over to America and we're going to fucking destroy America.
We're going to dig up Marilyn Monroe's body.
I mean, it sounds like some shit that Joey Diaz would say if he was British, right?
We're going to come over here.
We're going to have a fucking party.
This is what they wrote.
I'm going to destroy America and dig up Marilyn Monroe.
That's what this dude said on his Twitter.
They came over here to party.
That's all.
TSA checked them for shovels, these dumb fucks.
They went, you're going to dig up Marilyn Monroe.
We're going to catch you.
brian redban
Oh, did they tweet this or something?
joe rogan
Yeah, they tweeted it.
brian redban
So now they're looking at our Twitter.
joe rogan
Yeah, man.
They tweeted.
They're 26 years old, man.
They're kids.
They went to party, man.
Department of Homeland Security.
Way to go, you fuckheads.
These silly fucks are supposed to be protecting us.
They pulled aside this cute punk rock-looking British couple.
They look like sweethearts.
You know?
I mean, it's just...
Look at this.
This is what the dude wrote.
Free this week for a quick gossip prep before I go and destroy America?
That's the question.
Like a joke.
He's going here to have a fucking party.
Like he's going to destroy America.
Jesus Christ.
joey diaz
And they checked the shovels.
joe rogan
They sent them back home, man.
Not only that, they arrested them, locked them up with Mexican drug dealers that they also caught for 12 fucking hours.
unidentified
Mexicans?
joe rogan
Because they're immigrants.
They threw them in with the other immigrant criminals.
They threw them in with Mexican drug dealers that they busted.
So these guys were locked up with real hardcore criminals for 12 fucking hours.
And then they flew them back to Europe.
joey diaz
Fucking Sue.
joe rogan
Unbelievable.
It's unbelievable.
I mean, really?
You can't have one rational person who looks at those two and starts laughing.
Here's what he writes also.
Three weeks today, we're totally in LA pissing off people in Hollywood Boulevard and digging up Marilyn Monroe.
Ha ha.
He's joking around, man.
Really?
This is our tax dollars going to work?
This is 2012. We're not talking about 1950. We jumped into a time machine and all of a sudden they have Twitter in 1950. What?
They're going to destroy America!
We've got to act now!
eddie bravo
I think it was just to set an example.
brendan schaub
We're going to fuck anybody up that plays around.
joe rogan
I think it's a bully and an abuse of power.
That's what it is.
I don't think it's an example at all.
I think they knew these were kids and they could fuck with them if they wanted to.
I think they found someone to fuck with.
They found someone to fuck with and then they did.
It's really, really sad.
They came here and had fun, you fuckheads.
Jesus Christ.
joey diaz
They check them for fucking shovels.
joe rogan
They're checking Twitter for joke things that you say.
Joke tweets about coming to America and getting fucked up.
Like, do you really think that that's what a terrorist would write?
Hmm, this week, free for a quick gossip before I go destroy America.
Like, yeah, that's what you have to worry about?
That's where our tax dollars are going?
eddie bravo
What do you think about Anonymous?
joe rogan
Listen, man, somebody needs to stand up for this fucking...
Anonymous is awesome.
Stand up to this wacky world that we're living in, man.
And what Anonymous represents is the internet.
What the internet represents most of the time is justice.
You know, most of what they go after, most of what they do is the right thing.
There's a lot of, like, shit that's going on, like this Dana White thing where they're hacking into his social security and putting it all online.
That's...
brian redban
I heard it was fake.
joe rogan
Well, it was wrong.
No, it wasn't fake.
They got the information, but what they don't understand, first of all, is his dad's name, Dana White, as well.
And they got a lot of the information they got was his dad's, including liens and where his dad used to live.
And now some other guy got harassed because his information got put online.
So this guy, like Dana, had to go to this guy's house and apologize to him.
But the kid is apparently a 13-year-old kid from Australia.
He doesn't represent Anonymous.
He represents people on the internet that don't like when people on the internet challenge them.
Like you say, you can't hack me.
I dare you.
They're going to hack you.
They're going to fucking hack you.
But that's not what I like about Anonymous.
What I like is that what it represents is people feel fucking helpless.
They feel helpless to this gigantic oppressive power that is controlling the world and running things in a way that they don't like.
And when these guys go after...
Department of Homeland Security, all these different websites.
When these guys try to take things down, what they're doing is they're lashing out and they're saying, hey, we can touch you.
We can reach you.
We can find your information.
Like when they went after that guy that pepper sprayed all those fucking kids in the face, those kids at UC Berkeley that were just sitting on their knees, They got all that guy's information.
They put that shit online.
That I like.
That I like because that lets that guy know, hey, you can't do morally fucked up things because you're doing it under the blanket of your job, the umbrella of protection that you think has offered you by being a police officer.
You're doing something reprehensible, man.
You're spraying kids in the face with chemicals.
You piece of shit.
joey diaz
For no reason.
joe rogan
Yeah, and you gotta feel that, man.
joey diaz
You gotta feel that, man.
joe rogan
And you know what, man?
I saw a video where the people were trying to justify.
Like, listen, this is what happened.
This is the full story.
What you saw was edited.
And you know what they saw?
They saw the kids just sitting there for longer.
Yeah, they didn't move when they were told to move.
That doesn't mean you get to spray them in the fucking face.
brian redban
I heard there was some shit in, was it Oakland, the other day?
And the cops were arrested, like, a crazy amount of people, like 120 or 30 people, but they were tear gassing, and there was, like, kids there.
Like, one, I don't think it's probably the best idea to be bringing your kids to things like this.
joe rogan
Yeah, people are assholes for bringing their kids to these rallies, because these things, things can break out in violence at any moment, especially in Oakland.
Oakland's kind of crazy, man.
brian redban
Too short.
joe rogan
Yeah, short dog.
Yeah, Oakland is not to be fucked with, right?
Oakland's a tricky place.
joey diaz
That's been a hub for that shit for the last 40 years.
Since they play it every year, that's where they go up there.
These people know how to react to it.
They're sick and tired of it, too.
It takes two to fucking tangle.
But I love the idea of somebody checking somebody.
joe rogan
Yeah.
joey diaz
I've always loved the idea...
Hey, listen, man, I grew up on fucking Death Wish.
You know what?
The cops can't be there for you all the fucking time.
I love the idea of somebody blasting a motherfucker when you fucking do something wrong.
And the internet's the best way.
I love it.
joe rogan
I love it.
I think the internet is eventually going to be the government.
That's what I think.
I think the way that we're going to govern things is through the internet.
Because instead of these oppressive groups...
See, what really fucks us is that we don't really get a say in everything.
What we get to do is we get a representative.
We get to choose a representative.
And they almost all get into office and immediately just do whatever the fucking corporations that got them into power asked them to do.
That's what they do immediately.
They pass a bunch of bills like the National Defense Authorization Act that everybody's going crazy about that Obama passed, that he said he would veto.
All of that stuff, if you put that for vote to America online, what do you guys want to do?
No fucking way we would vote for that.
You can arrest us and detain us with no warrant.
Because what people have to realize is the people that you're saying yes to today, when you make a law and you say, okay, here's the law, These people today may not be the same people you're saying yes to 20 years from now.
Or even 10 years from now.
You can put laws into place that give evil, corrupt people.
I'm not saying Obama's evil and corrupt, but I'm saying what he did is an evil and corrupt thing and he opened the door for evil and corruption.
No doubt about it.
Because if someone wants to do that, some future douchebag, some Dick Cheney of the future, if he gets into a position and the National Defense Authorization Act is in place, guess what?
A bunch of people are going to go to fucking jail that are just protesting the government.
A bunch of people are going to go to jail for obstructing the way the United States runs.
They're going to go to jail as enemies of the state.
That's real shit.
None of that would take place if the internet was how we did our government.
And it sounds ridiculous, but why shouldn't it be that way?
What our government is supposed to represent is what the people want.
And what the people want can easily be found out on the internet.
It's easiest.
The easiest way to contact people and find out exactly what the fuck they want, regardless of nationality, regardless of the state where they live in, is the internet.
That is how things are going to be ruled.
It used to be you had to go to a place, you had to write down what you thought, and put it in a fucking box.
And that's how they decided things.
brian redban
Because that was the only way to do it.
The only problem with that, though, is there's more opportunity for hacking and things like that, unfortunately.
joe rogan
Now.
Right now there is.
Yeah.
But you know what?
That can be worked out too.
And you know what?
That's also, in part, a lot of that is in place also because of corruption.
Look at the fucking computerized voting machines.
If you don't know about this, watch a documentary called Hacking Democracy.
It was something that was on HBO a while back where they showed that these machines, these Diebold machines, are designed to be altered.
They're designed so that a third party can come in and change the results.
And they're so fucked up they changed their name.
Diebold doesn't even diebold anymore.
I'll find out what the fuck their name is now so you can't be tricked.
But we live in a corrupt system.
And what the internet recognizes is that the will of the people is not being represented.
What's being represented is the corporations.
And that's why everybody's hovering around all these fucking...
I mean, what this Occupy thing is, everyone's hovering and collecting and gathering together around all these sick areas.
brian redban
Yes.
Yeah, man.
Bullshit.
We had Too Short on a podcast last night, and it was really amazing.
joe rogan
Too Short, the rapper, by the way.
brian redban
The rapper.
He has like 19 albums out, but one of the cool things hearing him talk about was he started off so early in the game that people didn't even know what rap was, and he would just open up his car doors and have a beat playing and just rap really loud with it.
And one guy came up to him and was like, man, I want to have that.
And then he just popped the cassette and sold it to him for five bucks.
And then he started selling it to all the drug dealers who heard about it, that lived in Oakland, all the Kingpin guys.
And so they all wanted their own personalized rap cassette.
So then he was having to write all these songs nonstop just to keep up with all these drug campaigns.
joe rogan
How'd you guys have him on the podcast?
Who knows him?
brian redban
We had Kevin Black on, who's a sex tape guy.
He's the one that gets all the sex tape, like the Paris Hilton sex tapes and stuff like that.
He's one of the only guys that has even seen the Tupac sex tape.
And he's friends with him.
He's friends with him.
joe rogan
With two shorts.
brian redban
With two shorts.
eddie bravo
What's up with that Tupac sex tape?
joe rogan
It's too sexy.
eddie bravo
White girls or African Americans?
brian redban
I don't know.
I didn't ask.
joe rogan
Why can't he release it?
Tupac's family?
brian redban
Yeah, I think it was a family thing.
I think the powers would be...
joe rogan
Diebold's changed its name to Premier Election Solutions Incorporated, or P-E-S-I. That's the new Diebold.
Isn't it funny when companies do that?
They get caught doing something fucked up, so they just change their name?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, we're evil, but whatever.
eddie bravo
Yeah, you got to.
joe rogan
Blackwater did the same thing.
They changed their name.
joey diaz
What's their name now?
joe rogan
I'll find out.
eddie bravo
How far do you think Anonymous can go?
Do you think they could ever get shut down?
brian redban
No, it's impossible.
I think a lot of people get confused what Anonymous is.
The whole point why they can't get shut down is because no one knows who the fuck they are.
eddie bravo
Can't they figure it out?
brian redban
There's tons of people, though.
eddie bravo
Won't they start arresting people?
brian redban
It would be the most impossible thing.
That would be like trying to have an army put together that attacks the whole world.
It would be like World War.
For real, World War.
joe rogan
This is crazy.
Blackwater's so fucked up, they changed their name twice.
They went from Blackwater to XE, and then they went from XE to Akademi with a new logo.
They just keep changing their name.
They figure just no one's going to know.
Just keep changing it.
Keep changing it.
brian redban
Stopping Anonymous would be like, yeah, they could spend all this money and time, and they'll find some 13-year-old in Australia, and then there's like a million other people behind that guy.
joe rogan
Well, the thing is, What they can do to prosecute people that they catch and how far they can go as far as shutting things down and controlling the infrastructure.
That's what people are worried about with this SOPA. With this SOPA, what they're worried about, again, it's not the people you're saying yes to today.
They might not be the same people you're saying yes to 20 years from now.
If you give the government the ability to just shut down websites, which, by the way, they already do.
Look what they just did with Mega Upload.
They just closed down Mega Upload.
brian redban
I'm so bummed about Mega Upload closing, too.
It was a good website.
joe rogan
Okay, but let's play devil's advocate.
They closed Mega Upload because they said that Mega Upload has a bunch of different illegal files on it, like wares, and they have a bunch of movies and shit, screeners and mp3s.
If there's a website, and if you're offering that service to people where they can just upload shit, and then you sell advertisement, which they do, right?
Isn't that how they work that shit?
And they sell subscriptions?
brian redban
I think if you have a free account, there's limitations and they serve advertising.
I think they also have a paid account that I don't think has advertising.
But I think what it is is that it shouldn't be the company's fault.
It should be the user.
So yes, they find Dances with Wolves on Mega Upload's server.
They find out who uploaded it.
They bust him.
I don't think it should be Mega Upload's fault for having a service where it's legally you're supposed to share files.
joe rogan
Okay, but let's play devil's advocate.
Let's play devil's advocate.
If you do have a service where you're just sharing files and providing bandwidth, you should be responsible for how much of that stuff is pirated, because otherwise you're a distribution angle.
You're essentially a distribution highway for illegal shit.
brian redban
I think maybe, yes, you should be, but I think it should be more of like, I don't know, sharing of personal information if you are doing something illegal should be allowed, maybe?
joe rogan
Sharing of personal information?
brian redban
Meaning like if the FBI comes to Meg Apple and goes, look, we know that you have Dances with Wolves on your server, and they're like, okay, we need to know who this user is.
I think then Meg Apple should be like, okay, here's the person's information.
joe rogan
Really?
You think they should give you up?
brian redban
If you're doing illegal stuff, I don't think it should be Meg Apple.
Mega Upload's fault.
I don't think Mega Upload as a corporation should be shut down for a business because you want to share dance with the wolves.
joe rogan
Well, you know, better the corporation be shut down than the users going to jail.
That's the other devil's advocate is that these are just kids and they don't know any better and they think they're going to get away with it and they think they're just helping people out by providing files that everybody wants to get a hold of.
You know, look, the real problem is people have kind of grown up knowing that they can get shit for free now.
You know, that's like sort of how they're, that's how people feel.
They feel like shit is free.
You know, hey, I can get movies for free.
They joke around about it.
I've had people joke around on my own website about stealing my shit online.
They think it's cute.
You know, yeah, I'll get the Torrent, LOL. You know, and you're like, wow.
You know, like right in front of you, knowing that you, I mean, I don't...
It is what it is.
That's who you want to be?
That's all good.
But it's like they're so accustomed to stealing that they talk about it openly in front of the person's face on the website of the person who's selling the shit.
brian redban
Yeah, but that's just called ignorance and stupidity.
joe rogan
But it's also, they feel not obligated, they feel entitled.
brian redban
You know what?
It shouldn't be throwing people in prison.
I don't think it should be like, yeah, you were sharing Dancing with the Wolves with seven other people, and I don't think that person should go to prison for 20 years.
I think you should have some kind of thing, like maybe, all right, you're not allowed to have the internet for a year.
joe rogan
Well, that's the Kevin Mitnick punishment.
That's what they did to him.
But the real issue, Brian, is that that actually has crushed industries.
You know, like look at the music industry.
The music industry is fucked.
You know, one of the things that Dana White, Dana White actually wants to come on the podcast and he wants to talk about soul, but he wants to talk about all the shit that happened.
You know, I talked about interviewing him.
I go, let me interview you for UFC.com.
He goes, you know what would be better?
Let's do your podcast.
I said, all right, we'll do it.
So we're going to figure out when to do it.
And so, look, he's totally into free speech.
You just don't want him any ripping off his fucking product.
And then, you know, the amount of piracy is so widespread that people are actually pirating streams and then showing them in bars and charging people to go to those bars to watch pirated streams.
brian redban
There's definitely cases like that.
Obviously, that should be attacked.
joe rogan
Well, there's also people that put streams up and then they sell advertising.
They have Google Ads.
And they actually, you know, it's not just like a free thing.
They're making money off of the stream.
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
You know, there's a big difference between that person who's putting that up there and making money from thousands of people that are coming to the site and the person who's 14 years old, who can't afford the UFC, who's downloading it for free.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
So that's what the real issue is.
What they're really concerned about is the people that are actually profiting off pirating their shit.
It's a tricky thing.
Look, my take on it has always been that the Internet, without a doubt, has promoted me and helped me more than anything.
So the more people that have stolen my stuff means the more people who have enjoyed my stuff, which means the more people will come to see me.
The more people will come like this Chicago show or anything else.
I mean, it's the purpose.
We could easily charge for this podcast.
I mean, somebody probably willing to pay.
We know a lot of people that make a lot of money every month because of their podcast.
You know, they have subscriptions where they have like one extra podcast they do every month.
But I think the best way to do it is to give as much people as much shit for free as possible.
But that's also because we're live performers, you know.
That's how we see it.
We're live performers.
The key for us is come out and see us, man.
brian redban
Devil's advocate of the UFC thing is that, honestly, it's $60.
Nowadays, there's like two or three UFCs a month sometimes, even.
To me, I like the UFC a bit.
I know if I was a hardcore UFC guy, I would order every single one.
joe rogan
That's a lot of money.
brian redban
I don't agree with you.
joe rogan
I don't argue with you.
brian redban
That's $180.
joe rogan
Sometimes it's every week.
brian redban
I think that if UFC was smart, and a lot of these people were smart, they would do a subscription-based thing.
joe rogan
Like you're paying 20 bucks a month you get everything USA you know what else would be kind of dope if they had it like the way HBO pay-per-view has it where you If you like don't want to watch Oscar de la Hoya fight or Floyd Mayweather fight on HBO pay-per-view Next week the next Friday.
It's for free on HBO.
brian redban
Yeah, that's a good.
joe rogan
That would be pretty pretty dope I agree You know if like they had like huge cards like say Alistair Overy and fights Junior dos Santos and it's a big pay-per-view card how about throw it on Fox the next Friday and You know, you could watch a replay.
And that way, also, they'll know that they're going to put on some badass fight.
So if it's some, you know, if it's one of those fights that's not the most entertaining fight.
I mean, live fights are much better, sure, for Fox.
Maybe it's not Fox.
Maybe it's an FX thing, Showdown FX, the week after.
Not a bad idea.
But the thing about MMA is a lot of people buy the replays.
They'll buy it again, and they'll hear about how good it is, and they'll buy the replay.
That probably is a venue thing.
joey diaz
That kills it for about two weeks.
joe rogan
What's that?
joey diaz
That kills it for about two weeks.
So you've got to get all the money you can.
You know, what he was doing over the years is after a fight, they would put it up to UFC Unleashed maybe six months in.
Now, they fucking put it up to UFC Unleashed a month later.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's good.
joey diaz
That's really fucking good.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's good.
joey diaz
So the fight, not this week, but let's say...
Nick Diaz against Nate Diaz against Cerrone.
You know, I want to see that.
It'll be on this month.
That was New Year's.
It'll be on first week of February.
joe rogan
I miss all those Spike guys.
Those guys were awesome.
joey diaz
Well, you know, like I said, right now is the best time.
Listen, right now is the best time ever for an MMA enthusiast.
joe rogan
Yeah, it is.
joey diaz
A guy like me.
Look, I go home right now.
I tape UFC tonight.
I tape fucking Pride with Kendra Perez from 9 to 10, which it's better than the Prides they were doing before.
They eliminated a lot of shit that you didn't need to see.
joe rogan
Right.
joey diaz
And now they even cut it down.
They got Crow Cop against fucking...
The Russian, I've been watching some fights.
joe rogan
Yeah.
joey diaz
Oh, my head's almost exploded.
Not to mention, you know, you got the round table with Jay.
You got, you know, late night fucking UFC reloaded, which those are fucking lightning quick.
Okay, so let's see the Ben Henderson fight against Frank Yeager's 25th.
It'll be on by the last week of March.
Plus, they got the contract on Spike until the end of 2012. So on Wednesdays, you can watch fucking all fights all fucking day.
And you know Spike, anything that fucking FX does now, they counter it.
Like this week, they had all of Rashad's fights.
Believe it or not, a couple people fucking watched that shit.
joe rogan
I think it's good.
joey diaz
This is good.
joe rogan
I'm fucking happy.
joey diaz
I don't miss a fucking thing.
My DVR is UFC reloaded, UFC tonight.
You know, tonight is the countdown at 6 o'clock fucking Pacific, 9 o'clock Eastern.
They're giving you a ton of fucking MMA. Why you gotta fucking steal something for?
What the fuck you gotta steal something for?
What else can they fucking give you?
eddie bravo
On the music tip, what I found for me personally, like with iTunes and Torrance, is not only because people, I mean, the whole industry, the record industry just fell apart, but what's happening, and I know they gotta feel this, but...
I'm buying all my old shit on iTunes.
I don't want to pull out the CDs and load them into my computer and then upload them to my iPod.
I just want to get on my phone and I think of a song that I already have for my old record collection.
I'm rebuying all my old shit.
What about that?
brendan schaub
I know we're not buying as many CDs, but I think people are buying all the old shit.
joe rogan
I bought Stairway to Heaven about 30 times in my life.
brian redban
Yeah, there's definitely a few CDs I've bought 10 times.
eddie bravo
Right?
I know you can get it for free somewhere, but people are just like, let me go iTunes 99 cents.
Make it so cheap.
joe rogan
But you have money.
For really poor college kids, they do exactly that, but they go to a ware site or they go to a torrent.
Does he even wear sights anymore?
eddie bravo
It's so cheap, though.
It's like 99 cents a song?
I mean, that's cheap.
joey diaz
Is Led Zeppelin even on iTunes yet?
They finally fucking sit here.
joe rogan
Are they on iTunes?
Are they?
unidentified
There's a couple bands that still, to this day, they won't go on it.
joey diaz
Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, a couple bands won't go on it.
unidentified
Why not?
eddie bravo
I don't understand.
unidentified
I don't know.
joe rogan
People are weird.
joey diaz
You know, those old-school motherfuckers are set in 1970s still.
eddie bravo
I think, just like Red Band said, when it's something that you can download illegally, like music or movies or anything, just sell it for as cheap as possible so that you got to sell it so that it's not worth going and downloading.
joe rogan
Well, that's what Louis C.K. did.
When Louis C.K. did, he sold his whole special for five bucks.
eddie bravo
You'll get that money.
You'll get that money.
brian redban
I will never spend $180 on a UFC a month, but if I were the option for $20 a month and I got everything, I would do it even if I never watched it.
joey diaz
Listen, man, what Louis C.K. did.
brian redban
They get a lot more people.
They get a lot more people.
You're just so used to a pricing structure that was created by boxing in the 80s because pay-per-view was so amazing back then.
joe rogan
What?
If you had any idea how much it costs to put on a production, you would understand why you have to charge so much.
It's ridiculous.
brian redban
Yeah, but if you had 20 bucks, you'd sell more.
joe rogan
No, you wouldn't.
You wouldn't sell enough to compensate.
I don't think so.
joey diaz
What Louis C.K. did, Joe Rogan, was the most brilliant thing a comedian has done in 20 years.
joe rogan
Yeah, he gambled his own money.
joey diaz
He's like anonymous.
He checked everybody.
joe rogan
Yeah, he checked the whole system.
joey diaz
Comedy Central got checked.
iTunes got checked.
joe rogan
By the way, I'm doing the same thing.
I'm working it out right now.
You have to.
I'm thinking about doing it in Atlanta in April.
joey diaz
That's my plan.
unidentified
You have to.
joey diaz
You have to.
eddie bravo
What, it gave it away for free or something?
joey diaz
Five bucks.
Five bucks for a DVD. But here's the beauty of it, man.
Everybody benefited on this, but nobody benefited as much as the fans.
Louie did it for his fans.
eddie bravo
Five bucks for a download?
Is that what it was?
Or for the actual hard copy?
joe rogan
I think you get a download.
eddie bravo
Well, that's all you need.
joey diaz
That's all you need.
That's it.
joe rogan
I think you get to download it more than once.
eddie bravo
Make it so cheap that they can't refuse.
joey diaz
What did he make on it?
What's the number?
joe rogan
Who knows?
It was a million dollars after 10 days.
brian redban
And that's the idea of the UFC 20 bucks a month thing.
joe rogan
Yeah, I don't think they would do it that way.
joey diaz
It's not ready for 20 a month.
They're two years, three years away.
joe rogan
But I think that a monthly subscription is not a bad idea.
That would be pretty cool.
joey diaz
Sure.
And you get everything.
You get the webpage, you get the...
What's the club?
What's the fight club?
joe rogan
Fight club.
joey diaz
Fight club.
joe rogan
Don't they have a thing that they do that with the NFL? They have NFL packages that you get on DirecTV.
joey diaz
Yes.
joe rogan
You get all the games.
joey diaz
All the games.
Yeah.
They make a ton of fucking money.
joe rogan
Well, you know, they came real close to having a UFC channel.
You know, they were going to have a UFC fucking channel at one point in time.
They were thinking about buying like a Spike TV or something along those lines and starting their own channel.
And that might very well be the future.
You know, who knows?
After they're done with the Fox deal or they might do it with Fox or, you know, who knows how all this comes together.
You know, the Fox things are strange, man.
It's the same, but it's not the same.
It's the same, but there's like all this extra talking.
You know, I see all this sitting around the desk and all this shit, and I watched it, and I was like, I feel like, you know, the way we did it Spike style, they could slide in another fight.
You know, there's some badass fights in that undercard, man.
You know, they could have slid in that Charles Oliveira.
joey diaz
Cub Swanson.
joe rogan
Cub Swanson knockout, yeah.
joey diaz
Fucking a ton of shit that we could have slid in there.
joe rogan
Yeah, they could have slid something in there instead of everybody talking.
I would rather not talk other than, you know, I mean, look, everybody knows what it is.
I'll hype it up in the beginning and everything like that, but I want to get that fucking walk-in going.
Let's go, baby.
Let's go.
You know, I can hype everything up plenty while these dudes are walking into the octagon.
I can answer any questions or propose any possible scenarios.
I just want the fucking fight to take place.
I say the less talking, the better.
But I think they're used to, like, desks and shit.
Fox is used to, like, dudes with paper in front of them.
joey diaz
They love it.
eddie bravo
It's crazy listening to the Super Bowl music with UFC. They get mad.
joe rogan
That's not Super Bowl music.
That's Fox Sports music.
eddie bravo
Well, that's the music you hear.
joe rogan
They get all crazy.
brian redban
By the way, Joe Diaz, your special is $5.
joey diaz
Yes.
brian redban
We should mention that.
joey diaz
Yes, but let me tell you something.
The first card...
joe rogan
It's me or the priest, right?
joey diaz
Yes, it's either you or the priest.
The first card...
joe rogan
How do they get that?
joey diaz
Payloads.
Payloads.
But hold on.
Payloads what?
I like the UFC, bro, and I like what they do.
As a fan, I like what they do.
I really like everything about it.
You know, when I watch fucking Showtime...
I gotta lower the fucking volume, okay?
And when I watch Fox, I don't mind Kenny Florian there.
The other guy's like a miniature fucking Joe Rogan with his little haircut and his little fucking suit.
He looks like Joe Rogan on News Radio.
He looks like Joe Rogan on News Radio.
All he needs is a pointy fucking sideburns, right?
But it's so weird that...
What the fuck was I talking about?
Anyway.
joe rogan
Who knows?
joey diaz
The first Fox fight was a fucking nightmare.
We went to it.
You were kind enough to give myself and Eddie tickets.
First off, the fight started at 6. Nothing happened until 6.40.
That's too much, Joe Rogan.
I can't sit there for 40 minutes when I'm psyched up.
Everybody else is talking.
At least now, they're giving you three fucking fights.
unidentified
Especially.
joe rogan
Live.
joey diaz
40 minutes we sat there.
No national anthem.
No peanuts.
Nobody get down here and give you a fucking drink.
We didn't know what to do.
You can't get up.
You can't pee.
We don't know when the fucking next fight is.
joe rogan
Yeah, they didn't treat it the way we always treat a regular live event.
joey diaz
But the last two have been tremendous.
This last one was beautiful.
I taped the Fox thing.
joe rogan
But isn't it crazy that the main fights, except for the Bisping Summit fight, which is pretty exciting, the main fights weren't as exciting as the fights in the undercard.
You know?
joey diaz
Bro, it's the Curse of Fox.
You know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
You don't have to crawl.
The Curse of Fox.
No, it'll be fine.
Look, that FX fight.
That Melvin Gallard, Jim Miller fight.
joey diaz
That was tremendous.
That was tremendous.
joe rogan
That was bad.
Jim Miller's a fucking animal, dude.
Jim Miller's an animal.
Goddamn that dude.
eddie bravo
Dude, Melvin was lighting him up.
joe rogan
He was.
eddie bravo
We've never seen Jim Miller.
joe rogan
He caught him with some shots.
eddie bravo
Yeah.
joe rogan
Jim Miller can take it, though, man.
He can take it.
And the way he took that back, woo!
He dove on that back mount, man.
joey diaz
I've always been scary from those guys from that side of the woods in Jersey.
They come out to Creedence Clearwater and shit like that.
Close to Pennsylvania.
Those motherfuckers will kill you, dog.
That other side of New Jersey.
joe rogan
That's the woods.
joey diaz
I love it.
joe rogan
You might as well be living in Tennessee.
You might as well be living in Georgia.
joey diaz
There's good people over there.
Yeah, that's fucking different.
He hunts all the time.
Wyckoff, wherever the fuck he's from.
Yeah, that's a different angle over there.
joe rogan
Yeah, Jim Miller's a hunter.
You don't think of that when you think of Jersey, like outdoorsmen hunters.
unidentified
No, that's a...
joey diaz
You got the Jersey Shore, you got those crazy fucking mountain men, and you got Northern New Jersey.
That's it.
You got Millburn.
Yeah, totally different.
Three different fucking continents in one.
eddie bravo
The Jersey Shore, they're just passing off VD. Dude, I just started watching Jersey Shore, and I fucking love it.
Snooki and Dina?
Oh my God.
joe rogan
You love it for real?
eddie bravo
I'm addicted to it!
Why?
Because they're so retarded!
I love watching...
I mean, Snooki and Dina are female versions of Beavis and Butthead.
And they're like, for real!
They're actually alive!
You know, it's not animation.
These are real people!
brian redban
No, but Eddie, they're set up...
It's fake reality.
joe rogan
Whatever.
Sometimes.
Well, whatever it is.
Hold on.
Did you see Snooki get punched?
That shit was not fake.
That was real.
unidentified
That was what?
brian redban
Season one or season two?
Yeah.
But the majority of the shit now is like, hey, we're going to put Snooki inside this barbershop, and this barbershop's super gay because we casted him gay, and it's just going to be ridiculous.
Yeah.
It's completely fake.
And you know what's even worse about the whole fucking Jersey Shore thing?
It's that new movie, Three Stooges.
This is a classic franchise that's been rebooted.
In the trailer, fucking Snooki's in it.
I love Snooki.
This is disturbingly disgusting.
eddie bravo
I love her.
I just want her to talk.
Her and Dina?
Oh my god.
joe rogan
I don't know who Dina is.
eddie bravo
Dina's her best friend.
She's amazing.
She's amazing.
It's incredible.
All they do every episode is, there's gonna be a part in the episode where they're all getting ready to go out and they're all doing their fucking hair and putting on their makeup.
They go to Karma and it's the same shit.
You know what's crazy about it is, they are so retarded that you would think with all the cameras, with all the cameras and all their fame, That they would have girls crawling all over them.
joe rogan
The girls would?
eddie bravo
You would think the guys would have girls crawling all over them.
But it's not what you think.
It's like girls don't want to go back to that house and be on TV. They gotta get fucked!
joe rogan
Not only are they going to get fucked, they're going to look like losers.
eddie bravo
Yeah, it's incredible.
unidentified
They go out and sometimes they don't get pussy.
eddie bravo
They got cameras all over them and they're super famous and they have fucking bad nights and the girls are banging on like regular fucking Skeezes that they've been banging for a long time.
They're incredible.
joey diaz
What do you think about Big Edge, though?
You know what?
eddie bravo
As good as Jersey Shore is, the best show on TV. Nothing fucks with Mob Wives, dude.
If you haven't watched Mob Wives, go fuck yourself.
joey diaz
That is the...
eddie bravo
You watch it, right?
joe rogan
You watch it many times.
You know, the problem is I knew too many of those women.
Those women that, like, knew guys that were, like, in and they would, like, fucking threaten you.
I'll fucking make one phone call right now!
eddie bravo
These bitches are just fighting each other every episode.
They want...
And they have money.
They're in their 40s.
You would think they would have some class.
But they're like, fuck you!
The last episode...
joe rogan
You need to go on their Twitters.
eddie bravo
Oh, yeah, I do.
joe rogan
I follow all of them.
The one mother's wife, the one who's divorced, and she keeps calling her ex-husband.
This man disrespected me.
eddie bravo
Which one?
joe rogan
The ex-husband will show up.
The fat one with the big head.
joey diaz
Oh.
eddie bravo
Oh, wait a minute.
joe rogan
The big Ralphie Mae head.
eddie bravo
Is her husband out of jail or in jail?
joe rogan
Her husband divorced her.
unidentified
I don't know.
joe rogan
I think he was about to go to jail again.
eddie bravo
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's Renee.
joey diaz
He's Puerto Rican.
eddie bravo
How's he in the mob?
joey diaz
He's Puerto Rican.
Her father.
eddie bravo
They're saying that she married or he married Renee to get into the mob.
That's what they're saying.
They're accusing her of that.
joey diaz
His name is Hector Junior.
joe rogan
Really?
joey diaz
How many fucking Italians do you know their name is Hector?
eddie bravo
Yeah, he's cute.
joey diaz
But what happened was, remember we had this discussion the other day.
joe rogan
I read her Twitter.
joey diaz
Staten Island was a fucking garbage dump run by the fucking Indians.
That's where they put the Indians after they threw them out of New York.
Then they decided, fuck, we got this property over there.
Let's build on fucking Staten Island with garbage.
Todd Hill.
joe rogan
So it was all just garbage?
Yeah.
joey diaz
It used to...
Half of it was a dump.
That's why when you're driving...
I mean, bro, it's 20 minutes from Jersey that way.
That's when they give you...
joe rogan
I'll tell you what.
Staten Island, to me, when I used to do gigs in New York, Staten Island had the most unfriendly environment.
joey diaz
Yes.
joe rogan
There was one club on Staten Island.
joey diaz
Grandpa's.
Grandpa's.
unidentified
That was...
joey diaz
Al Lewis's joint.
joe rogan
They wouldn't give you a seat for your girlfriend.
You would show up with your girlfriend.
They would like, can she sit down in the back?
No.
Your seats are for customers.
unidentified
Like, wow.
joe rogan
Like, your performers, like, they don't even have, like, a little site, a little spot where the performer can sit down or your girlfriend can sit down.
Like, they would want you to, you know, go stand outside, stupid.
You're not a part of the show.
It was just a weird vibe.
joey diaz
Listen, I went to St. Nile one time because I got sick and tired of going to Harlem.
If they caught you getting weed in Harlem on the way back from Jersey, they would confiscate your car because you were interstate transporting over federal lines.
Those bridges in that tunnel, yeah, they're cute.
But if they catch you bringing drugs over, your car gets confiscated.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's how it is in California, too.
joey diaz
So that's what happened there.
So you had to go in through the George Washington and come back to Lincoln Tunnel.
After every day, you get sick of going over there for weed.
They said the Jamaicans had gone to Staten Island, okay?
There's a Jamaican neighborhood in Staten Island.
They sell the best.
So one day in 94, me and my buddy go over there.
No biggie.
We drive in.
We're looking for black people.
We can't fucking find them.
We can't find no dreads.
I can't smell no fucking incense.
I can't do nothing.
And all of a sudden, what do I see?
I see 20 fucking Guidos on a corner with white t-shirts on, with white shoes on, pinky rings, the whole thing.
I pull up, you know, at the light, and they're like, who are you looking for?
unidentified
Nothing.
joey diaz
We're looking for a little better.
Pull over.
Pull over.
Come on over here.
Before you know, I had 20 Italians around me.
Yeah, what are you looking for?
I want a 20. All right, park the fucking car and go into the fucking pizza place, and somebody will come up.
Okay.
I parked the car with my buddy.
You know what?
I'm hungry.
I go to the pizza place.
Guy comes in.
What do you want?
I want a 20. Okay.
Listen, from now on, when you come over here, you see fucking whatever his name was, Angelo.
unidentified
Okay?
joey diaz
You ask for Angelo.
No problem.
Okay.
One day it snows.
A month later, you know what?
I don't want to go into the city.
Let's go into Staten Island real quick.
The weed wasn't bad.
I pull up.
I don't see Angelo.
I don't see nobody.
I see 20 fucking guineas.
I don't know none of them.
I pull over.
I go in the pizza place.
Within 15 minutes, I had 15 Italians in there.
Three of them were bats.
What are you doing here?
Disrespecting.
We told you when you come up here, you got to see Angelo.
You weren't asking for Louie.
I didn't ask for nobody.
I asked for a fucking slice of pizza.
It was an hour and a half drama to get a $20 bag of wheat.
Where's the weed?
You know what a weed is?
I don't know what a weed is.
You know what a weed is?
And I was like, you know what?
It was too much for me, bro.
joe rogan
That angry Italian...
joey diaz
It was too much for me.
It was just too much.
joe rogan
Staten Island vibes, a bad vibe.
joey diaz
The pizza was delicious.
The bread was delicious.
Everything was great.
But I never went back over there.
And that's what I see when I watch my wife.
joe rogan
There's spots like that.
Still alive.
It's not comfortable.
joey diaz
Who you with?
That's the first thing they ask you.
brian redban
And this is why he wants you a good father, too.
Godfather, too.
joey diaz
Who you with?
That's the first thing they ask you.
I'm not with nobody.
I can't with any...
No, no!
We don't know no Eddie Bravo.
joe rogan
Who you with?
And that was not, by the way, reinforced by all those shitty mob movies.
You know, so many people got into it.
unidentified
Exactly.
joe rogan
Bronx Tale and all these different...
joey diaz
Bronx Tale wasn't bad.
unidentified
Living with Godfather 2. It wasn't bad, but I think the vibe of it...
joey diaz
Godfather 2 was the greatest movie of all time.
joe rogan
They were all great movies.
joey diaz
You know nothing.
joe rogan
There's a great...
A bunch of them.
joey diaz
Listen, let me tell you something.
Godfather 2, and I forgot to tell you something.
It's better than the fucking...
It's the first movie ever.
That's better than the first one.
Not to me, because Marlon Brando is rock over fucking everything.
You know what I'm saying?
He's rocking.
When he told that motherfucker at the table that, you know what?
I do of all this situation here.
My son has to come back.
But if for some unfortunate fucking situation he should be struck by a bolt of lightning or he should be hung in his fucking jail cell, I will blame the people at this table.
And that I will not fucking forgive.
That's the greatest speech at the top of the album.
joe rogan
The problem is every stupid douchebag wants to be that guy.
joey diaz
No, Marlon Brando was beautiful.
The fucking studio didn't even want him.
Listen, Marlon Brando was the first man ever.
Marlon Brando was one of my idols because he told Hollywood to suck his dick.
joe rogan
I think he told a lot of men to suck his dick.
brian redban
Yeah, he did.
I think I have a photo of it.
joey diaz
He went down to Mutiny on the Bounty and bought a fucking island.
Nobody's ever bought an island.
Nobody's ever been that fucking quick.
joe rogan
Tyler Perry.
joey diaz
After now.
But this was 1970. It was a motherfucker.
And then impregnated half the women on that island.
All of them are named Marlon.
Every fucking kid on that island is Marlon Brando.
That was part of living on the island.
You gotta suck my dick.
joe rogan
Where was this island?
joey diaz
It was off the fucking coast of Hawaii.
Wherever he shot that thing.
joe rogan
Island of Dr. Moreau.
joey diaz
Bro, Warner Brothers went down there, whoever the fucking people were, and looked at the tapes.
And they're like, what is this?
You're shooting birds and pigeons?
Where you been from?
Where the fuck have you been for the last month?
He's like, dog, I've been fucking these Hawaiian chicks up the ass.
I'm having a great fucking time.
Saw him when the Godfather came along.
They didn't want him.
They're like, this guy wasted millions of fucking dollars.
joe rogan
Yeah, put that up here.
Put that up here, Brian.
brian redban
Yeah, you sure?
joe rogan
Yeah, put that up.
Put that up.
Look at this.
Oh, you can't do it on Ustream, right?
joey diaz
Oh, sorry.
brian redban
But if you just Google Marlon Brando sucking dick, it's actually an artistic shot that Marlon did.
joe rogan
Yeah, he really sucked the cock.
brian redban
But artistic with two quotations.
joey diaz
That's how deep the motherfucker was.
joe rogan
And he doesn't even look that fat back then.
joey diaz
Nice.
That sperm kills the fucking sperm.
Listen, I got a boogie with stew.
I love you, cocksucker.
joe rogan
I just want.
joey diaz
I'll see you Thursday night.
I gotta go for my knee at 6 up at the Bob Hope fucking center to get everything in shape.
Don't forget payloads.
Don't forget fucking Vegas.
I'm gonna fucking kill you motherfuckers this week.
Eddie Bravo.
Don't forget the Sandy Bravo gift for his fucking kid on Twitter.
Send it to...
Oh, some guy emailed me.
They bought you a camera, cocksucker, so I want 10 points.
unidentified
I want a lens.
joey diaz
They bought you a camera.
I want a fucking lens, cop.
joe rogan
See you Thursday, brother.
And Friday night, we're going to have a good time.
House of Blues, Vegas, Mandalay Bay, Duncan Trussell, Joe Diaz, me, the whole pile.
One more thing I wanted to talk about before we get out of here, because this is pretty fucking fascinating shit.
You know, we talked about the problem in the ocean, that big pile of plastic that they have.
eddie bravo
Yeah, the garbage patch.
joe rogan
They just found a mushroom in the Amazon that eats indestructible plastics.
brian redban
Wow.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's pretty fucking nuts, man.
brian redban
So we're going to throw a bunch of mushrooms on it, and then the water's going to be all trippy, and we're all going to die.
joe rogan
It eats polyurethane, man.
The mushroom is called petalopteopsis microspora.
Pestilopsis.
It's spelled P-E-S-T-A-L-O-T-I-O-P-S-I-S. Micro S-P-O-R-A. So it's a resident of the Ecuadorian rainforest and was discovered by a group of student researchers led by molecular biochemistry professor Scott Strobel as a part of Yale's annual rainforest expedition and laboratory You know, they go down there, man.
They have these scientists and these researchers go down there, and every now and then they'll find some fucking crazy shit.
There's like all sorts of medicines that have come out of the rainforest, incredible psychedelic drugs, all kinds of nutty fucking things, and they're chewing that bitch up every day.
brian redban
So the mushroom like disintegrates the plastics, or what's it do?
joe rogan
It eats it.
It's the first fungus species.
Mushrooms have mouths?
Mushrooms absorb things.
It's like karma-free living, the way mushrooms live.
They literally live in shit.
They live the most humble life possible.
But it's a living organism.
It's the first fungus species to be able to survive exclusively on polyurethane.
So it lives on fucking indestructible plastic.
And more importantly, it's able to do that in anaerobic conditions, meaning the same conditions found in the bottom of landfills.
And this makes this fungus a prime candidate for bioremediation projects that could finally provide an alternative to just burying plastic and hoping for the best.
brian redban
I wonder how long the process takes.
Are we talking about 30 years?
joe rogan
Probably a billion years, but at least it's better than what the plan's now.
Now they need to find some shit that eats nuclear waste.
It's probably in the Amazon.
It's probably a frog.
brian redban
It's probably Snooki.
joe rogan
It's a frog.
They're going to give it this frog, it's going to eat nuclear waste, and then it's going to become fucking Godzilla.
Oh no!
There goes Tokyo!
Go, go, Godzilla!
Denny Propagos, do you want to step up to the mic?
Do you want to be on the podcast here, son?
This is our boy Denny.
We've known Denny since he was a little child, since he was a small boy, and now he's a black belt world champion.
First 10th Planet Jiu-Jitsu black belt.
brian redban
The viewers have been looking at his feet for the last two hours.
joe rogan
They are sexy feet.
eddie bravo
Headphones.
Headphones, son.
joe rogan
So everybody knows that you know what you sound like.
eddie bravo
At the Gracie Nationals this past Sunday, not only did 10th Planet get the first place team title for the Gracie Nationals, but Danny also got first place in his division, tapping out two black belts.
He twisted a Joe Moreira black belt, and he guillotined UFC star Nam Phan in 29 seconds.
Danny had a...
He capped off an epic...
Day for 10th Planet.
joe rogan
That was a flying guillotine?
You got a flying one?
Jumped up?
unidentified
No, no, no, no.
He shot in for a single leg on my right leg and I just wrapped his neck and I drove my hips in.
He fell back.
I hooked his right leg with a triangle, stepped over with my right leg, crossed my feet, arched my hips, looked up.
Nice.
eddie bravo
It was amazing, man.
joe rogan
Geething is nasty.
Yeah, we've known Denny since...
What were you like?
A purple belt when you started training with Eddie?
unidentified
Blue belt?
eddie bravo
Blue.
unidentified
Blue belt?
eddie bravo
Yeah.
unidentified
14 or 15. Actually, no.
I started training with Eddie when I was an orange belt.
joe rogan
So that's like little kids, right?
unidentified
Yeah, I was 15. Damn.
eddie bravo
Wow.
Tell him about our first private lesson.
He lives in San Francisco.
He's been there the whole time.
I'm in LA. I had just opened up.
I had my first school open for maybe two years and I'll never forget.
I'll never forget when it was after a tournament me and a couple well-known jujitsu players were in the parking lot smoking some weed in our car and here's this little kid like two cars away just Standing there, looking at us.
And we're like trying to hide the weed.
Like, oh no, there's a kid there.
Hide the weed.
We're like hiding the weed and he knew exactly what we were doing.
And then we...
joe rogan
But he lives in San Francisco.
eddie bravo
Yeah, he drove down for the tournament.
unidentified
It's different.
joe rogan
San Francisco kids learn about weed when they're three.
unidentified
Dude.
eddie bravo
That's been legal there for like 30 years.
joe rogan
Yeah, nobody gives a fuck.
unidentified
The first time I got offered to smoke was I was in fourth grade.
So tell us about tell us about your first experience with like remember your birthday and all that kind of stuff oh yeah so for was it my my 15th birthday my brother and I we were gonna go down to this Greek convention it was like this Greek dancing thing and I'm like all right I want to I want to take it private with Eddie you know and He taught me the rubber guard.
Back then, he actually taught me London and taught me the invisible collar, the basic path, and taught me some twister stuff, taught me the meat hook, and I basically went back and all the stuff, I videotaped it.
eddie bravo
He had his brother drive down from San Francisco.
unidentified
Yeah.
So it was pretty cool.
eddie bravo
So that was pretty crazy.
I had this kid, and I usually don't do privates, but this kid shows up, and I'm like, you know what?
I like to save all my energy for my group classes.
I really don't have energy for privates.
Really, just rarely do I give them.
And he comes down, you know, this 15-year-old kid, drove all the way from Frisco.
I'm like, okay.
And he ended up...
I knew right there, right there.
I knew that this guy...
There was something special about him.
I knew that, I mean, if he's willing to drive all the way down from San Francisco to take a private, that he's down for life.
This guy was...
joe rogan
Yeah, that's the most important thing that anyone could ever show.
It's just, if you want to be successful at something, you have to be really fucking dedicated to it.
Really dedicated.
And doing something like that, come all the way down from San Francisco, that shows you.
eddie bravo
And it never waver, because even to this day, to this day, I'm not just saying this.
To this day, he's definitely the most decorated 10th planet...
Competitor.
Yeah, he's won the most titles.
He's competed the most at the highest levels in straight grappling.
I have guys that have done MMA and they've done well, like Scott Epstein and all.
But at pure grappling, Denny has done the most.
And it's because he...
He drills and practices way more than anybody I know.
I mean, he's a jujitsu fanatic.
Not only does...
Like yesterday, we're rolling.
We're rolling.
And every move, every little trick I had, even the latest shit, the latest tricks, he would call it out.
He would tell me what I was thinking.
Nobody can do that.
Nobody can break down the 10th planet system like Denny.
Tell me exactly how I'm planning to trick him.
I've never had anybody do that.
He was calling everything out.
It was fucking me up.
Like, holy shit, this guy's reading my mind.
He studies the 10th planet system like no one else, and he studies all the new games that are coming up, like all the 50-50 stuff, all the leg lock, all the latest stuff that the Brazilians are coming up with, like Rafael Mendes and Cobrina, all the Spiral and De La Jiva.
This guy, he studies it like he has OCD. He's just obsessed.
joe rogan
He's focused.
It's so important to be around people like that.
In life, there's always people that are willing to take things to another level, that are learning quicker than everybody else, that have more passion.
It's so important.
eddie bravo
And it rubs off on his students.
Check this out.
I had maybe about seven or eight of my schools compete at the tournament.
And his school, the San Francisco school, by far did the best.
They were 12 in 1. He had four guys competing.
12 in 1. And the one loss was in the finals.
It was like a 30 minute match.
unidentified
37 minute match.
eddie bravo
And the guy lost, but it was incredible.
unidentified
He didn't even tap.
He went to sleep.
joe rogan
That's incredible though.
37 minutes.
That's amazing.
eddie bravo
I mean, he's got incredible students, like future stars, like Adam Sachnoff, we call him Big Red.
Adam Sachnoff is 230 pounds.
His rubber guard is insane.
And he's got black belt level guillotines and Darces and Japanese necktie.
And then Mike Hillebrand and Travis.
unidentified
Travis Magalette, yeah.
eddie bravo
He's got some crazy students.
joe rogan
And by the way, if you're in San Francisco, Danny, how did they find your place?
Because a lot of people already come to your place because of the podcast, right?
unidentified
Yes, yes, yes.
Your podcast has helped.
Thank you very much.
joe rogan
I really appreciate that.
How did they get there?
unidentified
We're on 333 Valencia Street, Suite 100, inside Valencia Street Muscle, the gym.
And my website is 10thplanetjujitsusf.com.
joe rogan
And for folks who, you know, look, I get emails, I get Twitter messages all the time saying, thank you, I started doing jiu-jitsu because of the podcast.
For people who think you can't do it, if your body works, you can do it, alright?
You don't have to go in there and jump in there with killers.
You take beginning classes, you learn some technique, and it's fun.
And you know what, man?
You just gotta be able to be tapped out.
When you get tapped out, just tap.
Just tap and go right back in and figure out what you did wrong and learn.
And it is a vehicle for developing your whole life.
All martial arts are.
When you get through difficult things, a lot of people never physically get pushed.
They don't.
They don't understand what it feels like.
They don't understand what it's like to really exert yourself and to try hard and to grow and accomplish.
To accomplish something, to learn some new techniques, to develop and advance.
It's so important for everything that you do.
When you get really good at something as difficult as jujitsu, it makes everything in your life better.
eddie bravo
And when we say anybody can do it, that's not a sales pitch.
Anybody can do it.
Little girls, little five-year-old, six-year-old girls do jujitsu.
Old ladies do jujitsu.
Anybody can do it.
Contrary to popular belief, you go to jujitsu school, it's not these barbaric animals that want to rip your arm off.
It's the opposite.
joe rogan
Mostly nerds.
eddie bravo
Yeah, it's mostly computer nerds.
joe rogan
Our classes are mostly computer nerds who will kill you.
eddie bravo
Yeah, exactly.
Computer nerds that are addicted to gaming.
joe rogan
Like Cade.
If you didn't know Cade, you look at Cade, Cade Nelson.
unidentified
He's...
joe rogan
Wicked!
His jiu-jitsu's wicked, and he's a very small guy.
He's like 140 pounds at the most, right?
He's not a big guy.
eddie bravo
He's 130. Black belt.
joe rogan
Nasty technique.
Nasty technique.
But if you look at him, he's like all skin and bones, man.
eddie bravo
He's the nicest guy on the planet.
joe rogan
Nicest guy.
eddie bravo
You know, it's totally not a bunch of...
Killers who just, you know, literally, yes, you learn jiu-jitsu, you are learning how to kill people, but...
joe rogan
They're not animals, they're not mean people.
They're like really cool, nice folks, you know, like so many of them.
Like Brent, you know, you look at Brent, like, what a nice-looking guy.
Like, seems like just a normal, real friendly, nice to everybody.
Check your fucking lights out.
eddie bravo
The sport itself?
What's going on, what makes it so much fun is a filter for douchebags.
Because in the sport of jiu-jitsu, the game plan is to tap someone out.
To put someone in a position in a choke hold or an arm bar.
None of it hurts.
You just tap out when you feel like you can't get out.
You tap out, give up, and then the guy lets go of the hole.
So that's like a kill for you.
No one got hurt, but you tapped out, you couldn't get out.
Douchebags can't They can't walk through the fire, those beginning stages where they're getting tapped out, they're losing the game, because they take it too personally.
Everybody has an ego, but douchebags have the biggest egos, so they can't go into jiu-jitsu and go through the learning phases where they're losing, where they're tapping out, losing a game of death.
You know, they can't handle it, so they never even get to jiu-jitsu.
The only guys that make it through are the guys that have a complete control of their ego, where they tap out in the beginning all the time.
You're always losing in the beginning.
You're just tapping out.
It doesn't hurt.
You're tapping out.
But your ego can get bruised if you don't have control of it.
So what ends up happening is jujitsu is the ultimate douchebag filter.
You're left with a bunch of guys that had no problem tapping out and no problem submitting.
joe rogan
No problem dealing with reality.
Because the reality is every dickhead wants to think that he's the fucking man.
Every guy wants to think that, you know, there's so many guys like, bro, if I got into M&A, I'm going to tell you right now.
I'm not into that MMA, but if I get anywhere, I'll fucking be running shit.
Fuck GSP. I'm a natural-born fighter.
There's some dudes who just natural...
And those guys, they can't handle jiu-jitsu because some little K-dude will choke their fucking lights out.
And that's also why those guys are scared of weed.
Holla!
eddie bravo
Yeah.
joe rogan
Especially edibles.
Edibles expose your douchiness as well.
Meanwhile, edibles are the best things to roll on.
I don't like edibles.
Really?
eddie bravo
Because you just never know how much TH you're getting.
We talked about this before.
brian redban
You still don't know that either.
joe rogan
Lately, I've been on a good roll with these trips.
eddie bravo
Yeah.
I just like a couple puffs before I teach and I'm all good.
I don't need to get crazy.
unidentified
You guys ever try the gold mist?
joe rogan
No.
A mist?
brian redban
Yeah.
unidentified
It's like a breath thing.
joe rogan
You tried it?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
How was it?
unidentified
Pretty good.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah?
It's amazing.
But eventually they're going to have like fucking filtration systems and air conditioning where you come into work and just get high.
unidentified
What about the new vapor pens?
joe rogan
What is that?
Oh, like old school, like they look like those magic cigarettes?
unidentified
Yeah, the cigarettes.
joe rogan
Yeah, electronic cigarettes, yeah.
eddie bravo
Yeah, they're like soaked in THC and there's zero smell.
Yeah, no smell at all.
joe rogan
You probably shouldn't talk about that because someday you're going to want to use those in some place.
Meanwhile, they're monitoring Twitter, these cunts.
brian redban
Yeah, I used to have the electronic ones, but they weren't accurate.
It seemed like you just suck on them for a while and you're like, I'm not getting anything.
joe rogan
This is bullshit.
Eventually, this is all going to be legal.
We're battling it right now.
Here's some crazy shit that was on MSNBC. MSNBC.com.
It's from Reuters.com.
In London, these scientists did these studies on people tripping on magic mushrooms, and it's given them the best picture yet of how psychedelic drugs work, and these British scientists are saying the findings suggest that such drugs could be used to treat depression.
unidentified
Absolutely.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, it's amazing.
This is all becoming mainstream shit, one after the other.
Over and over and over again, there's these studies that are coming to light now that are suggesting that all these different drugs, ketamine, they're saying that ketamine can be used as an instant cure for depression.
And one of the reasons why kids get addicted to ketamine is the first thing that ketamine does is alleviate all your worries.
Like, that's one of the reasons why people are doing it.
So now they're suggesting that ketamine can be used as some sort of an antidepressant, as some sort of an instant antidepressant quality, as well as psilocybin.
Two separate studies, the effects of psilocybin, the active ingredient in magic mushrooms showed that contrary to scientists' expectations, which of course is based on propaganda, It does not increase, but rather suppress activity in areas of the brain that are also dampened with other antidepressant treatments.
So they don't even understand it.
It's like they're saying that psychedelics are thought of as mind-expanding drugs, so it's kind of been assumed that they work by increasing the brain's activity, but they don't.
Surprisingly, they found that psilocybin actually causes the activity to decrease in areas that have the densest connections with other areas.
So they don't know what the fuck is going on.
eddie bravo
So that makes sense, though.
So it quiets your brain down so that you could have an outer body experience.
That makes sense to me.
joe rogan
Sort of.
eddie bravo
Less activity.
Less activity.
Just like when you meditate.
You meditate.
brendan schaub
You know, people are addicted to meditation because, you know, if you could just think about one thought, like a water drop or whatever, you get into that zone.
eddie bravo
You know, people...
That zone is the frequency of the universe.
That's where everyone's trying to get.
They're trying to get that.
And you do it by just thinking about one thing.
So that makes sense.
You're quieting your brain, removing all negativity.
You're thinking about one thing, and it aligns you with the universe.
joe rogan
Maybe.
No one knows exactly what it's doing.
It might just be facilitating evolution.
It might just be giving you a better way of thinking because it empowers the mind.
eddie bravo
That's my hypothesis.
The universe is at one frequency.
That's science.
So it makes sense that we should try to get to that frequency.
If the universe is at a frequency, one frequency, all throughout the universe, we know that.
brian redban
What's this frequency you're talking about?
eddie bravo
The whole universe is at a frequency.
Like one frequency.
And that was in the debate between creationism and evolution.
That was the strong point right there.
So science proved that the whole universe is at one frequency.
So the creationists are saying, see, that's proof of God.
That's proof of intelligent design.
How could the whole universe by accident be at one frequency?
unidentified
What's frequency mean though?
eddie bravo
I don't know exactly, you know, but it's like the frequency.
joe rogan
Like, what is the frequency of smoking, man?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
That shit is so gross, dude.
Goddamn.
What do you put a fan on or something?
eddie bravo
The frequency is, like, what's a frequency of a vibration?
Yeah, it's a vibration.
joe rogan
What frequency do cigarettes give off?
eddie bravo
Dude, that's like fucking 93.4.
joe rogan
Please, Brian, it's for real, man.
Unless you got a window open or something, you gotta send your hotbox.
brian redban
There's a smoke sucker over there.
joe rogan
That shit ain't doing nothing, man.
eddie bravo
No, what I mean by that, like, what's a frequency?
Like, a radio station is a certain frequency.
It's a 95.5.
What is that?
Like, you know it's a frequency.
And if you turn that dial, bam!
You need to get that frequency on 95.5 if you want to listen to Kayla West.
So the pinnacle of science is that they just discovered that the whole universe is one frequency.
I don't know what number that is, but it's a certain frequency.
In music, you've got to be on the same frequency or you've got to be on frequencies that harmonize with that frequency.
So it makes sense.
To me, it makes sense that if the whole universe...
But the science is saying, No, it doesn't prove intelligent design because we are finding that we're not in just one universe.
There's a multiverse.
There's endless universes and each one is at a different frequency, so that doesn't prove any intelligent design.
I don't really give a shit about that argument.
But to me, it makes sense.
We're trying to get on the frequency of the universe.
brian redban
I'm glad it makes sense to you because I have no idea still.
And I'm like Googling.
eddie bravo
We're trying to get on the radio station of the universe.
And meditation and yoga.
This is my hypothesis.
This is my guess.
Is that yoga and meditation, unconditional love, sex, certain drugs will get you in the frequency of the universe actually.
joe rogan
If you love the man, what about dog sex?
What about you fucking donkey?
brian redban
It's the same frequency.
joe rogan
Is it the same frequency?
brian redban
Have you felt it yet, Joe?
joe rogan
I'm saying, the only thing I'm seeing here is from God-like productions, which right away you go, um, okay.
And what they're saying is that all beings in the universe connect through a single frequency.
And there's a bunch of videos, I guess, that you have to watch to understand what they're trying to say.
brian redban
Yeah.
eddie bravo
Makes sense to me.
brian redban
I looked up and it says it's a song from the Butthole Surfers.
joe rogan
Really?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
I bet it's a good song.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, no one knows what the fuck's going on when you're on mushrooms.
It's certainly something that should be studied, though.
And that's what I think is missing in, you know, in people's ideas of mushrooms.
Everybody's got this propaganda-based opinion on it.
Everybody thinks it's bad for you.
I mean, I remember I had this conversation with Michio Kaku once when we were on the Opie and Anthony show, and I suggested, you know, I asked him if he's ever done mushrooms.
And, you know, he asked, like I said, like, hey, you know, you ever smoke crack?
You ever do meth?
You know, it's like...
To a lot of people, that's like the same thing.
Like you say, you do mushrooms, and they don't want to mess up their brain.
But so much insight, so many different people have come up with insights because directly related to psychedelic experiments.
And I don't know if it's true, but the rumor was that Francis Crick, when he was dying, admitted, you know, that he was a frequent user of LSD, and that's how he came up with the idea, the concept of the double helix of DNA, you know, that he came up with it under the influence of LSD. There's been a bunch of,
I think the guy's name was Kerry, another guy, I came up with other insights on LSD and it's been geneticists and different people that have done ayahuasca that have had weird ideas and, you know, expanded on these ideas that came directly as a result of psychedelic experiences.
Who knows what it is, man?
I don't know, but it would be awesome if they allowed people to fucking study it instead of lock you in a fucking cage for experiencing something that's been here a lot longer than people have, you know?
So stupid.
We have a bunch of stupid people.
You were talking before this happened about the presidential debates.
eddie bravo
Watching Newt Gingrich is hilarious.
How is he even in the presidential race?
unidentified
That guy doesn't...
eddie bravo
Him and Mitt Romney are arguing about, because they both made money off the economy going to shit based on their investments.
And they both did, but they were arguing live on TV, on CNN, about who invested more.
And that alone should tell people they're both full of shit.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, he just lost.
He came in second place in Florida.
eddie bravo
Can you imagine if Newt Gingrich is the president?
joe rogan
Well, Mitt Romney.
You see that video where Mitt Romney met with that kid who had cerebral palsy and he uses marijuana?
eddie bravo
Yeah.
joe rogan
And he said, why don't you?
He's like, he wouldn't even answer him.
He wouldn't even answer him.
He said, would you put me in jail?
He said, well, you could try synthetic marijuana.
Synthetic marijuana.
He was suggesting that that was a good idea.
That I'm not for medical marijuana.
I've told you I'm not for it.
Like, you're not for it.
You're telling for why?
eddie bravo
Why?
joe rogan
For what reason?
Under what reason?
Why?
Because you're a whore.
Because all these goddamn companies that get you into the position that you're in right now tell you that that's the stance that you should take.
eddie bravo
Did you see that video of all of Mitt Romney's flipping and flopping?
There's an awesome YouTube video.
joe rogan
He's gross.
He's a Mormon, man.
Not that there's anything wrong with being a Mormon, but when you're a Mormon, you're not allowed to run the presidency.
You're not allowed to run the country.
You're just not.
You're not allowed any wacky religion.
If you're a super Catholic...
And I know JFK was a Catholic and everything like that, but this is with different times.
It's 2012. You know, really?
You believe that Joseph Smith, a 14-year-old kid that lived in 1820, found golden tablets that represented the lost work of Jesus?
The guy was a con man, a known con man.
He said he found a stone, and a secret stone, and he looked through this stone, and he could read the lost works of Jesus.
Really?
Really?
unidentified
What language was that in?
joe rogan
Goofball.
It's just fucking amazing.
I have friends of friends that are Mormons that I know.
They're very nice people.
It's one of the nicest religions.
What it gives them that's great is a great sense of community.
I've been to Mormon churches before.
They have a really nice sense of community.
They're very nice to each other.
And they really promote that.
They promote that feeling of family and that positive frequency.
And it really makes a difference, man.
I was at a Mormon funeral recently, and these people, man, they really believed that this guy was in a better place, and it really helped them that their loved one had passed on into a better place.
It really did, and I really support that.
I think that's awesome.
But that's just because the ideology happens to be in a good frequency.
But if you break down what the ideology stands for, it's ludicrous.
It's absolutely ridiculous.
It's absolutely doing some good for some of these people, but so would just being nice.
It would do the exact same thing.
So would just being humble and giving in to love and just being nice to people.
You don't need some wacky shit that was made by a con man, a 14-year-old con man.
Who found golden tablets.
And then when the people came to him, I'm like, where are these tablets?
unidentified
He goes, oh, the angels took them away.
joe rogan
The angels took the...
It's like, you know, it's such a dumb story.
It's such a terrible story.
eddie bravo
Yeah.
I mean, to me, growing up, I despised all religions, I thought.
I thought it was all just crap and just destroying society.
But as I get older, I, for me, my opinion on religions is if you do it right, if it's based on unconditional love and doing the right thing, different religions are just like, it's a way to get your soul in the right frequency.
There's different ways to get your body physically, like there's Kettlebells, and then there's some people like to just run, some people like to swim.
All different ways to get your body aligned.
And I think all religions, as long as you do it right, whether it's Muslim or whatever, Catholicism, like my grandma, she did it right.
All she cared about was doing things for others.
And she was hardcore Catholic, went to church every day.
That was her exercise of the soul.
That is what got her frequency in the right place.
Some people do yoga.
Some people meditate.
Some people, you know, believe this.
Some people worship rocks.
If you really believe rock, the rock is the frequency of the universe and it gets your soul in the right place, I'm all for it now.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's an idea of just believing in something and then having a code that you live by and moving your life always in a positive way.
And that's good, no matter what you call it.
Whether you call it Hindu, whether you call it Kundalini Yoga, whether you call it Catholicism.
If you're really moving in a positive direction and you really believe in love and you really...
The idea of giving in to a higher power is not because God wants you to be humble or God wants you to be in awe of his greatness.
What it is is saying there's something above you, so not taking yourself so fucking seriously and instead not being out for number one.
And sort of realizing that we are together, like, there is a brotherhood and a sisterhood of man.
You know, that's really what it's supposed to be all about.
That's the good of religion.
And that's where I've seen religion help people, for sure.
And I was just like you growing up, man.
It was both of us, it was the same reason.
Because we had seen the system fail us.
We had seen all these people that were supposed to be correct and these people that were supposed to be adults.
We saw they were retarded.
We saw they were assholes.
We saw that it was all bullshit.
We saw that religion was being used negatively a lot of the time and there was a lot of guilt and there was a lot of yelling at you and there was a lot of nonsense.
eddie bravo
So we just trashed all religion.
I would never, if my grandmother was still alive, I would never try to knock some sense into her and try to prove that the Bible was written by a man.
It worked for her.
That was her kettlebells right there for her soul.
It worked for her.
That's the way I look at it now.
I think religion is, if you do it right and...
You always look to do the right thing.
Life is all about selflessness and unconditional love.
joe rogan
And what people don't understand is that benefits you, man.
You can do that and do it in a selfish way.
I mean, it sounds stupid, but if you're a selfish person, you really want to succeed, you really want good things for you, you want to do it selfishly, be nice to everybody.
That's the best way to get ahead.
The best way to get ahead is just...
Be nice to everybody.
Tip people whenever you can.
Tip more than you're supposed to tip.
Give people hugs when you can.
Be nice to people all the time.
When you put out that good energy, you get good energy back.
You can almost think of it like people are like, I'm looking out for number one.
You really want to look out for number one?
Look out for everybody else.
Look out for everybody else.
That's how you really look out for number one.
I've had the most benefit in my life by being nice to people.
The most benefit in my life by being generous and being friendly and being warm.
And every time I've not been that, it's always fucked me.
And when I run into someone, especially now at this stage of my life when I've had my own personal revelations and my own successes and failures and I've kind of assessed what helps me and what doesn't help me.
When I run into someone that's life is a mess, when I run into someone that's got a lot of troubles, goddammit if it's not a big chunk of what the fuck got them there is the way they think about things, the way they behave about things, the way they take a cigarette and fucking throw it in the street.
You don't realize why your life is kind of shit while you're littering everywhere?
You're not putting out good energy while you're throwing your fucking McDonald's bag out the window because no one's looking.
You're being a cunt.
You're fucking up, man.
You're ruining space.
You're sending out bad things.
When you fuck somebody over in a business deal, you're like, well, I profited.
Hey, it's a dog-eat-dog world.
Bullshit.
You just put out some negative shit and it's going to come back at you, man.
That guy hates you.
Those people you fucked over in that bad development deal or whatever the hell you did wrong, those people don't like you now.
They hate you and that's going to come your way.
Do nice things and nice things come from it, man.
unidentified
Think, talk, and act.
joe rogan
Always.
Think, talk, and act, man.
That's the best way to end this bitch, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Let's wrap this motherfucker up.
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unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
10th Planet J-I-U J-I-T-S-U SF. Go there.
brian redban
You should probably have a shorter version of that, too.
eddie bravo
Well, you could just go to...
unidentified
There's also no GiJuJitsuSF.com.
joe rogan
If you go to 10thPlanetJJ, it shows you everywhere.
eddie bravo
10thPlanetJJ.com.
joe rogan
And there's how many affiliates?
eddie bravo
Click locations.
We got over 30 worldwide.
joe rogan
30!
eddie bravo
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joe rogan
And by the way, if there's no one near you and you want to learn 10th Planet Systems, you can still go to 10thPlanetJJ.com and you can learn from the videos that are available in the database.
You could literally see all the lessons that we're learning in class in San Francisco.
Eddie puts those up there.
You just have to pay a small monthly fee.
eddie bravo
$4.99, just like we were talking about before.
joe rogan
Perfect.
eddie bravo
I could have charged $30 or $25.
A lot of people are.
I just wanted just a little bit.
I wanted to charge...
joe rogan
For bandwidth, keep your website going.
eddie bravo
I gotta charge a little bit.
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joe rogan
And there's also DVDs available.
Tell them about the DVDs and where they can get those.
eddie bravo
You just go to 10thplanetjj.com.
joe rogan
Everything.
eddie bravo
All my shit's there.
The books, the DVDs.
And if there's not a 10th Planet school near you, just go to any Brazilian jiu-jitsu school.
Any school.
It doesn't matter.
You know, if the guy's a douchebag, find another school or whatever.
But it's...
Any jujitsu is better than no jujitsu.
It's a good thing to have the skill to protect your family, to protect your loved ones by being an expert at scientifically subduing someone and putting them to sleep non-violently and getting the hell out and getting to safety.
joe rogan
And it's a fun way to exercise, man.
A lot of people don't like going to the gym and just riding a bike.
It's fucking boring, you know?
And a lot of people can't motivate themselves to do that.
Jiu-Jitsu will motivate you to do it.
It's fun.
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So 10thplanetjj.com.
All your information.
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Get it.
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brian redban
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joe rogan
H-O-B.com.
That's the best way.
eddie bravo
I got some seminars real quick.
Seminars.
Omaha, February 11th.
Michigan, February 18th.
joe rogan
Is all this on 10thplanetjj.com?
eddie bravo
Yes, yes.
joe rogan
So if you can't remember it, just go there.
eddie bravo
And Danny's doing a...
unidentified
The Ultimate NYC Absolute in New York.
There's going to be...
eddie bravo
February what?
unidentified
February 25th.
eddie bravo
All the top guys make a riot hall.
joe rogan
February 25th.
unidentified
Where the hell am I? They're mixing 29, 35, 49, and 162, and we're all meeting at 155. It's like a mini Abu Dhabi, dude.
eddie bravo
It's not even a mini.
It's like just as good as Abu Dhabi.
joe rogan
Damn, I'm gonna be in Japan.
brian redban
Ah, yes.
joe rogan
Like a motherfucker.
unidentified
Jake's fighting on that card.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
He's fighting Nakayama, right?
unidentified
Yeah, man.
joe rogan
Ooh, exciting.
eddie bravo
That's a good fight.
joe rogan
Stand-up going good?
unidentified
Yeah, dude.
Jake's always getting better, man.
You know, he's a hard worker, dude.
I've been working with him.
I got to train with him last week.
Dude, he looks awesome.
joe rogan
Stand-up is getting better?
unidentified
Stand-up's getting better.
I think all of his skills are getting better.
His wrestling, his jiu-jitsu, his stand-up, everything.
joe rogan
Beautiful.
I love Jake.
He's a good dude.
Alright, thanks everybody.
Thanks to Fleshlight for sponsoring the podcast and they were the first sponsor and we will always be loyal to them as much as people give a shit about it.
Oh, I should probably say something about this Fear Factor thing.
Yeah, Fear Factor got pulled off the air.
We were supposed to have an episode where contestants drank donkey semen and donkey urine.
eddie bravo
Apparently...
joe rogan
Apparently folks think it's too much.
I agree.
After we did it, I'm going to be honest with you guys.
I haven't told anybody this, but I think I got high with you after it was over that day.
And I remember thinking, I might have told you, but I think we fucked up, man.
I think we went too far.
It just seemed wrong, man.
I'm like, people are not going to like this.
This is going to make people angry.
Whatever, man.
Somebody signed off on it, and then apparently the backlash was crazy.
eddie bravo
So they shut down Fear Factor all together.
Oh, the episode.
joe rogan
They pulled the episode.
And there's one episode that's going to air February 12th.
It's our next one.
And there's one other two-hour episode that's going to air sometime after that.
They haven't figured out when.
eddie bravo
That's perfect.
joe rogan
Put it on the DVD. No, no, no, no, no.
I think it's never going to go anywhere.
It's going to be buried, and they'll never do it again.
They went too far.
eddie bravo
Are they showing throw up now?
joe rogan
No, not really.
But the stunts are so much bigger now.
The show is so much bigger and crazier that they tried to push everything.
I just think they went too far.
I think it was nutty.
brian redban
I definitely don't think they went too far.
joe rogan
I know, exactly.
Everybody has their own standards.
I just don't think that it's fair to ask people to do that.
It sounds ridiculous coming from me.
brian redban
Well, they don't have to do it.
joe rogan
I know, they don't have to, but I mean, to ask them to do it, I think.
It would have been cool if everybody said, go fuck yourself, and then we had to, like, scrap the stunt.
It would have been funny.
brian redban
Have you had that happen yet?
joe rogan
No, but that would have been a good time, you know?
But, you know, I think it was way easier for girls to do than guys, you know, obviously.
brian redban
But, uh...
joe rogan
I mean, for real, girls were even joking around about it.
It was way easier for them.
brian redban
Spitting it on their chest and rubbing it in.
joe rogan
Oh, no.
Brian, that's your world.
You live in a dark world.
So, look, I'm sure if we had to go back in time, they wouldn't do it again.
And the only way you find the limits of these things is you push them.
I think it was a mistake.
So it's over, and it'll probably never see the light of day.
Or five years from now, it'll air, because there's no way they would have considered doing it five years ago when Fear Factor went through its first run.
I mean, in season one, it was so tame and calm and easy and small compared to what it's like now.
Now it's just ridiculous.
The stunts are huge and crazy and explosions and nuts.
Who knows if they'll ever show that again.
I'd rather they not.
I think people shouldn't have to do that.
I think it's too much.
They fucked up, but, you know, whatever.
We learn.
Kill the show.
Kill the episode, and we'll march on, because we've got some good episodes coming up.
It's a way better show than it ever was before.
I hope this doesn't fuck it up for everything else, but I think everybody realizes that it was a mistake, including NBC, and they wanted to push things, and Just, you know, you don't find out how bad things are until you get people's reactions.
And that's the reaction.
Whoopsies!
We're sorry!
Sorry.
So that's it.
So I've commented on that.
So go to...
Oh, Pasadena.
unidentified
That's the other thing.
joe rogan
Pasadena.
Thursday night, right here, 10 p.m.?
brian redban
Thursday night, it's at 8.30.
joe rogan
8.30, perfect.
brian redban
And if Friday's at 10, go to icehousecomedy.com.
joe rogan
Thursday, 8.30 p.m.
Me, Joe Diaz, Lil'Ester, Brian Redband, and who knows who else.
And we'll also have...
The Ice House Chronicles podcast, which is only available on Death Squad on iTunes.
Subscribe to Death Squad.
It is free, as of all our podcasts are.
And you can get...
There's a gang of podcasts there.
There's Sam Tripoli's Naughty Show.
There's Tom Segura and Christina Pazitsky's Your Mom's House.
brian redban
Brian Cowan's new one.
But check out the Too Short Naughty Show.
I may put it up later tonight.
It's amazing.
joe rogan
Okay, and also...
What was the other one that you got?
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Life has changed considerably for all of us because of this podcast.
And we put a voice out there that didn't exist before.
And I think for us, and I think for you guys, we found you guys, and you guys found us.
And who would have known, right?
Who would have known that there would have been a podcast...
There's been an audience for a podcast like this.
We, most of the time, thought they were just a bunch of assholes sitting around talking about stupid shit while we're high.
Literally did we know that the world is filled with assholes that wanted to hear that kind of shit.
So it's awesome for us as much as it's awesome for you.
We love you all, and thanks for tuning in.
And we'll see you probably tomorrow.
I got an idea for tomorrow.
And then Thursday, too.
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