Joey Diaz, Eddie Bravo, and Joe Rogan dive into Diaz’s brutal UFC prep—marathons, swimming, and striking—while critiquing Condit’s underdog mentality and Maia’s shift away from guard-pulling. Diaz reveals his 185/100 blood pressure, past 415-lb weight, and COPD struggles, contrasting with Rogan’s past competition stress and their shared fear-driven stand-up energy. They debate MMA piracy, favoring subscription models like HBO but clashing over Rogan’s free-content philosophy, while praising Louis C.K.’s $5 special as a revenue-smart alternative. Diaz’s Staten Island mob tales segue into jiu-jitsu’s ego-crushing "douchebag filter," with Rogan endorsing 10th Planet JJ’s $4.99 global access. Ultimately, the episode blends combat culture, health risks, and business models—highlighting how raw resilience and unconventional strategies shape success in both sports and life. [Automatically generated summary]
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Thank God those guys exist, and thank God those guys have built themselves up to the point where this is one of those matches where five fucking rounds, man, you can't wait.
You're going to be palms sweaty, rubbing your hands together before that bitch.
I don't know who's going to be the referee for this.
I don't know who it is, but before that one person looks at the blue corner and then walks at the red corner and then says, Fight!
That Hennon Burrell dude, he's the dark horse of the pound for pound division because he's not a champion yet, but he might be one of the top pound for pound guys.
He's right up there with Aldo.
He's a beast.
Did you see his last fight with Brad Pickett?
He hit homeboy with a knee to the face with no jump.
Just fucking leaped up with his knee.
You know, instead of that thing where they lift the front leg and then they come up with the right leg, they'll start with the left leg and then they use it as force to kick up with the right leg.
Before, in the early days, if you were a black belt in jiu-jitsu, shit, you had a shot at the title.
And then it became, if you were an Olympic wrestler, damn, you have a shot at the title.
Now it's obvious, now it's becoming more like all other sports.
If you didn't wrestle, do jiu-jitsu, and worked on your striking since day one as a kid, because there's so many kids doing that, all three now, it's like you're not gonna have a shot in the very near future.
And I think there's one more factor, and that's the Nick Diaz factor.
Obviously, he doesn't like cameras.
He's said it a million times.
He doesn't like to talk in front of cameras.
He's not into it, and maybe he's shy in front of the camera or whatever, and his teacher was even saying that he wasn't the most vocal guy, and he had trouble expressing himself and all that shit.
When he gets in that cage and that door slams shut and the crowd is roaring, there's no more fucking talking.
He just comes alive.
He looks at his opponent and he's like, nobody could fucking hear you.
You could be the most articulate, funny, charismatic guy on the fucking planet, but you know what?
I fucking run all day, swim all day, I got a crazy chin.
I'm gonna fucking kill this motherfucker.
That's an X factor right there.
You have to look for that, I think, in the future in fighters.
Do they have that switch where when they fucking get in that cage, it really is life or death for them.
His is a very different thing than anybody else's.
First of all, his approach to it is so different than anybody else's in that he does endurance training, like long-distance marathon-type training, and basically forces these guys to try to keep up with him.
I mean, he basically puts them into an endurance contest and tries to get them to keep up with them.
That's why he does a lot of juking and a lot of getting in their face.
All that stuff tenses you up, all that stuff.
You know, all those punches that he throws at 50-60%, all those tighten you up.
You know, one of the things that Frank Shamrock said was that when Nick Diaz was punching him, he hits you so often you can't breathe.
You don't know when to breathe.
You can't relax.
Because you never get to relax.
Because they just keep coming.
Which is just different.
He just fights in a different way.
I think the way he does it is brilliant.
It's so brilliant because no one else did it before him.
No one else figured out that way to fight.
No one else really would not just have great skills, but have ridiculous world-class endurance, like swim from Alcatraz endurance.
That's nutty shit, man.
They said they went through a countdown.
He sparred some ridiculous amount of rounds, then he ran five miles, and then he swam for an hour and a half.
I mean, when he was a kid, he said that he, you know, I think he said it was, one of the countdown shows, his, I think it was his uncle or someone, was like a track coach.
But, you know, he was already just this dude who ran face first.
You know, one of the things that made Vanderlei great was how reckless he was.
You know, he didn't give a fuck.
He would charge at you literally like a wild dog.
You know, he'd be like a pit bull just running at you.
But that style gets you hurt.
You know, that style.
I mean, he's the...
It's not a coincidence that he's the only guy of his era that had to have facial reconstruction so he could breathe.
You know, his nose was flattened, smashed flattened.
If you go and look at his face from when he first entered into Pride and then his face in his first UFC fight with Chuck, he's a completely different person.
You wouldn't even recognize him.
He was a handsome guy.
When he first got into Pride, he was a fucking handsome guy.
I think he had some weight problems too where he didn't cut the weight right and now he cuts it right and now he has way more energy because when he went up to 170 you know he had some fights where he looked badass like the Rory Markham fight.
Holy shit and I thought man You know, this kid is draining himself too much to get down to 55, but then he figured out how to do 55 right.
And he came in and the Gomi fight just fucking lit Gomi up.
But Cerrone fight was even more impressive because he did it for three fucking rounds.
So it shows that he's got endurance.
At 155, too.
And he lit Cowboy up, man.
I mean, I thought that was going to be a crazy close fight.
It's like sort of how I feel about this Condit fight.
I don't know what the hell's going to happen.
I look at it, I'm like, man, both guys are tough as fuck.
Both guys have mad skills.
Both guys can survive.
Some dudes can't be the nail, you know?
Some dudes can be the hammer, but when they're the nail, they fall apart.
Condit doesn't fall apart, man.
Condit got...
Bombed on by Jake Ellenberger.
Ellenberger had him in all sorts of trouble.
And Ellenberger puts people away.
That kid hits fucking hard.
He's one of the hardest hitting guys at 170. And he bombed Condit.
And Condit covered up, weathered the storm, and came back.
That was the first fucking round, man.
He was in all sorts of trouble in the first round.
Where a lot of referees would have pulled that trigger.
A lot of referees would have stopped that fight if they didn't respect him.
If they didn't know him.
If he was like a new guy into the UFC. How did that fight end again?
See, a guy like Hughes, I mean, I think Hughes is a great fighter, but I think a certain number of knockouts, they have to step in and stop you from doing that.
You know, whether it's your family, whether it's your friends, whether it's, you know, your boss, there's a certain amount of times.
You know, I've talked to, there's a guy that I know very well who is a traumatic brain injury specialist.
And what he deals with is rehabilitating people and...
And helping people with all these mental imbalances that people have due to traumatic brain injuries.
One of the things that happens is your body stops producing testosterone.
You get really lethargic.
You get depressed.
That happens to a lot of guys that have a bunch of head injuries.
They get depressed.
Apparently, your brain can only take a few concussions in your life.
A bunch of dudes stopped Overeem, but Overeem figured it out, man.
And one of the things he figured out, he was just too fucking small.
He was too small at 205, you know, when he moved up to heavyweight.
But then again, Karatanov, I think Karatanov jacked him at heavyweight.
He started, you know, I don't know what changed in him, man, what changed his ultimate dedication, what changed in his intensity, what changed, but no one's ever turned it around like Overeem.
No one's ever gone from being stopped like eight times.
And back when he was fighting at 205 in MMA, he was thought of as a tough guy, a tough guy, but a guy who would gas out.
He goes from that to be the first guy to win a world title in both MMA and K-1 kickboxing.
No one's ever done that before.
No one ever won the K-1 Grand Prix and won an MMA title and looks like that.
Who the fuck looks like Alistair Overeem?
I mean, he's a goddamn superhero in a comic book.
He turned it around.
So when you got a guy like that, you kind of can't say anything.
You know, you look at Mirko Krokop and you go, man, I love Krokop.
He's a legend.
He's got one of the greatest highlight reels of all time.
Those head kick knockouts, one after the other.
But at a certain point in time, how many times can Krokop get knocked out before someone doesn't want to, you know, you feel bad for him, you know?
We were waiting to get our car to the airport, and it was the next day after he fought Randy Couture.
He fought five rounds against Randy and lost his title, and he came up to us, and he goes, dude, I don't even remember the fight.
And he goes, I remember the bell ringing, and then I remember sitting in the corner asking my corner what round it was.
It's the last round.
And he's like, what?
The last round?
Like, he just fought five rounds on instinct.
He had no idea what happened.
He got hit with one right hand early in the fight and just had no idea what happened.
Yeah, that's, you know, we don't, you know, that's why it drives me crazy when someone will call a fighter a pussy, or this guy, you know, he never brings it, he fights like a wet blanket.
You go get your fucking brains rearranged, son.
You go get someone's shin kicking you up the side of the head.
You know, there's a lot of guys that criticize guys for being boring.
You know, it doesn't bother me at all.
I mean, maybe I don't necessarily want to see them, but I respect what they're doing.
I respect, like, Antonio McKee.
A lot of guys give him a lot of shit, you know?
Because he, you know, he kind of, like, wrestles guys to the ground.
He never gets into, like, stand-up exchanges with guys too much and doesn't take any damage.
But that's the key.
He doesn't take any damage.
Yeah, it might not be the most exciting thing in the world, but if you want to fight, really, that's a smart way to fight, man.
Smart way to fight is just close shop.
Close everything.
There'll be no one punching.
There'll be no nothing.
There'll be you on your back and me punching you a little bit here and again, but nothing crazy because I don't want to get submitted, and then I'll win every fight.
You know, it's not the smartest way to do it because it's a sport and you're also marketing yourself.
He took that fight on 11 days notice, and you could tell when he was in there.
He struggled.
And even Ray Longo gave it away in the corner.
Ray Longo said, you know, I saw what you went through yesterday.
I saw what you did yesterday.
You can do this.
They said that his cut was horrific.
But that kid is so fucking tough.
He just did it, and he went out there, and he grinded on Maya, and he won a decision.
But you could tell by the end of the first round, he was dead.
He was dead walking.
And Maya, luckily for him, was dead too.
Maya looked like really, like, I heard he had a flu or something like earlier in the week.
He did not look good either.
So both guys, it was a real endurance issue.
You know, like I was talking to Jeremy Piven and Jeremy Piven was like laughing about it.
You know, 'cause I didn't interview them.
And he's like, would you have said to them, so it's safe to say endurance was an issue in this fight?
'Cause it really was like, it was kind of, you know, it wasn't the best fight to showcase MMA, you know?
But it was just a circumstantial situation.
There's nothing you could do about it.
You got one guy who's a fucking stud wrestler with all this goddamn potential.
That Chris Weidman could be the king of the world someday.
He could be the John Jones of 185 pounds.
He's a beast.
He's a wicked wrestler.
He puts guys to sleep.
He put Tom Lawler to sleep with that fucking darts choke.
He's nasty, man.
He's strong as fuck.
I saw him fight Galvao in Abu Dhabi.
He avoided everything.
And he got Galvao in a fucking darts and didn't tap him.
But the fact that he was able to sink it in and lock it up and had Galvao fighting to get his legs under him and to defend, pretty fucking impressive for a dude as a wrestler.
I mean, I don't know what his...
I don't know what the Brazilian Jiu Jitsu rank is, but he's one of those kids that, you know, he's really fucking strong-willed, really smart, and he's just a winner.
There's some dudes that are just winners, man.
They could have a torn meniscus, they could have a fucking herniated disc, they take you down anyway.
They take you down anyway, and they still strangle you while they're in pain.
There's dudes that can just force through shit like that, and Weidman's one of those, man.
He's a fucking animal.
And then Damien Maia, you know what I think about Maia, man?
He's in limbo right now.
Because Maia, at one point in time, was just taking everybody down and strangling them.
He was all jiu-jitsu.
And that's when everybody loved him.
He was nasty.
But somewhere along the line, he figured, you know what?
These Nate Marquarts, these guys I can't take down, they beat the fuck out of me standing.
I gotta get my stand-up better.
But in doing that, his jiu-jitsu is just not the same.
It's not what it used to be.
You know, he submitted Chael Sonnen, he submitted Ed Herman, he submitted all these guys.
He was strangling people, man.
And it was nasty.
When he got you on the ground, you were a fucksville.
But if he would have been the old Damien Maia where he would have taken a shot, he would have sprawled, he would have pulled guard.
His guard is dangerous enough in submissions and sweeps where he could have did something to Weidman, but he took that out of the equation and then he decided to kickbox with him.
And now all those years of jujitsu, he's so good at jujitsu, it's not even in the game.
It's a kickboxing match.
Why would you do that?
If you can't take the guy down...
Drag him down.
Otherwise, you have to kickbox, and Maia's not a kickboxer.
People should watch that fight, Paul Harris' last fight, and look at that as a serious way out of a fight that you're having trouble in.
If you're in a fight and you're beating him standing, fuck it.
Stay standing.
You got this motherfucker.
Don't take him down.
If you can take him down...
It's pretty easy to take him down.
Take him down.
Get on top.
But if you can't strike with him and you can't take him down, which comes up in so many fights, it's so common, you got to have your guard dangerous enough so that you can pull guard, either with leg locks, you know, whatever.
The thing that really got me thinking about what kind of damage striking does to your head was when I started transitioning from Taekwondo to kickboxing, man.
Because I was a novice.
My striking was not very good.
My hands were not good.
I could punch hard, but I didn't really know how to box yet.
And I would go in there with guys who did know how to box.
And even if they weren't punching you hard, they were hitting you a lot.
And you just go home and you're fucking...
I would lie in bed and my head would throb.
And it's that terrible feeling.
I'm like, what am I doing in my brain?
You know, this can't be good.
Lying in bed with headaches after a sparring session, that shit can't be good.
And you'd go everywhere, the light would hurt.
Like, and I'd wear sunglasses because the light would, like, hurt when your head is pounding from getting punched in the head.
It's an amazing talent and skill to work on and not, I don't think, that many fighters, well, I know not that many fighters are working on it and more should.
No, I can see myself trying to beat my score before.
I can kind of see that.
But unfortunately, I just have this lifestyle that I'm so fucking busy that the only way that I can change that is just to make sure I work out every day.
Where this is more like for people that I guess have time.
That's why 60% of people take fucking steroids that aren't athletic.
How many times you go to a bar and there's 18 guys looking around, you think they're going for Mr. Olympia, and you're like, where do you live, Glendale?
So what's all these weights for?
For what?
To do what?
To be a bartender for 100 a night at the fucking local club?
When I would do blow, when I would have to wear underwear to go to the gym because I would piss my pants because I couldn't catch my breath when I was throwing punches with McAfoli.
Because people think in this country everything...
Bro, look at our fucking kids we got now.
A kid has a fucking bad day, they put him on a fucking pill.
And then when they get old and the computer crashes, now I gotta put them on another, they have a nervous breakdown.
You go to Little League and fucking Sherman Oaks.
You know, you can't yell at the kids to strike or you suck or swing.
These kids are fucking pampered.
That's why half of them are on fucking pills, guy.
So what you're trying to tell me is I could go to Burger King every night and eat like a fat fucking slob until I'm 35 and call Mr. Latband and get my shit together?
And that's what you're telling this country?
So half of these motherfuckers aren't going for the right thing.
When you're 400 pounds, you're not sick.
It's your character.
Something's fucking not right.
Something's not right.
So if you get up and walk to the corner every fucking day, eventually you're going to get bored walking to the corner, so you're going to walk another corner.
Then you're going to walk another corner, and next morning you're going to walk to the YMCA like I did, and you're going to get on the bicycle for five minutes.
Then it's ten minutes, and it all fucking helps out.
See, in my world, when you're a comic, you think that you only come home Mondays and Tuesdays.
So if I work out Mondays and Tuesdays, Eddie, what's that going to do for me?
Nothing.
Not true.
Even two days a week fucking helps.
I didn't know that.
That's the mentality I took.
I'm like, you know what?
I'll fucking snort blow.
And the sick thing was I always kind of worked out.
I always lift the weights.
I always did fucking something.
You know what I'm saying?
That's why when I got sick, it bothered me.
But I felt like I was too much behind the eight ball.
That was my life from the time I was 15 till I was 22. All my formative years was all spent in stress.
And I remember when I first decided that I wasn't going to fight anymore, it was like the first time ever in my life, when I was like 22, my last kickboxing fights, the first time ever where I could relax.
I would always be nervous, like, when is the next tournament?
When's the next fight?
When's the next thing?
I gotta get in shape.
I can't be drinking this.
I can't be doing this.
Couldn't live my life because I was always worried about getting my ass kicked.
I was always worried about, like, I have to make sure that I do everything right.
I have to be prepared.
I don't want to get fucked up.
You know, so it's like, it's...
It wasn't the best mindset to go into stand-up comedy for.
That's for sure.
It's like a constant battle.
Because stand-up comedy, it's totally the opposite.
You've got to not give a fuck.
You've got to be relaxed.
You've got to have fun.
Instead of being tense and ready to go at any moment's notice.
You were like one of the only guys there that I could relate to.
There was like a lot of guys that I couldn't relate to.
I knew dudes like you.
You know, I mean, not you, but you and my friend Johnny B, the pool hustler, very similar characters, man.
Very, very similar characters.
You're both way out there.
You're both, like, not give a fuck guys, and you're both guys that were, like, polarizing.
Some people would love you to death, and then everybody, you know, there was a large group of people that, for whatever reason, they'd be upset at you.
Like, I remember having to defend you, even the Dom Herrera.
The immigrant thing, not knowing the language, not feeling good enough like everybody else, not being a fucking American.
And it sits inside my fucking soul.
So, for me, everything has been rivered on fear.
Every time I get on stage, like the other night, fear was real in Chicago.
I got on stage in between the reefer and whatever was going on and the lights.
I got fearful, man.
But you know what?
That's normal to be scared.
That's a great emotion, especially when you're a stand-up comic.
Because the more scared you are, the better you're gonna fucking do.
Especially in my case.
The more riled up I am, two minutes before I go on stage, the more energy I'm gonna give that fucking audience.
But I've looked at my life and I've seen how much fear.
I was petrified to go get that fucking needle.
Even though I fucking knew nothing was gonna happen, I was gonna walk out of there.
But I went in, I took the needle, and after I walked out of that needle, I could have fucking killed ten fucking people with my bare hands.
Because you overcome one of your biggest fucking fears.
Till this day, I get little emails and people are like, you know, I suffer from a social disorder and I don't know what to do.
Well, the answer ain't taking a fucking pill.
It's checking your fucking confidence and grabbing your balls and walking into a circle and saying, fuck it, I'm here.
You know, my mentality was always go into the mouth of the lion and put a chair down and sit the fuck down.
And let the pieces fall where they may.
And if you're not going to live like that, fuck them all.
I'm at the store two fucking nights, Joe Rogan.
The first fucking night, Eddie Griffin bumps me.
You know how embarrassing that is?
You become a regular on a Sunday, the first fucking night you bring 11 people to come see you, your landlord comes, and you get bumped by Eddie Griffin.
And the second night I go up there and Steve Greenstein says to me, hey, last weekend you fucking auditioned here for Mitzi and you said one of my jokes.
I said, it's February fucking 11th.
I just come off a plane, January 29th, and you're already accusing me of being a fucking thief.
He was a creepy guy, older guy that hung out at the Comedy Store, and he had a violin case.
So this is a Tuesday night.
It's Black Night at the Comedy Store.
It's 8 o'clock.
The main room is packed, but the original room would be empty because people were scared to go up there on Black Night because they thought they were going to get fucking mugged.
So the original room was always empty.
So Steve Greenstein was up before me.
This is my second night at the Comedy Store, dog.
I just got to LA. I'm a fucking criminal.
I've been in prison.
I got all these problems.
But for the first time in my life, I got a little fucking daylight at the Comedy Store.
This lady made me a regular.
All my life, people were like, has Mitchie Shaw seen you?
Has Mitchie Shaw seen you?
She's going to make you a fucking regular.
I get down there.
I'm a regular.
This is the first time since my mother died I had any luck.
I had been in prison.
I had been divorced.
You know, shot.
The whole fucking deal.
And the next thing you know, I become a regular, and it's Tuesday night, and I get off stage, and I'm waiting to hang out for a little while, and Steve Greenstein comes up to me, and he says to me, Doug, one of your jokes is like my joke.
I said, which one?
He said, something about O.J. Simpson's maid.
I go, Doug, I didn't steal the joke from you.
I just fucking got here two weeks ago.
Wheels comes out, and he goes, this guy didn't steal the joke from you.
The only problem was the guy put the violin case behind his fucking legs, and I spotted it.
So he starts threatening him.
He's like, dog, the next time you do that joke, we're going to have a problem.
I just pushed him, Joe Rogan.
He fell over the violin case.
Well, as he's falling down, Mitzi's limo pulls up.
That's it.
I'm like, I'm done.
This is my life.
I'm fucking gone out of here.
I'm never going to get another fucking spot again.
I'm going to go back to sell and fucking blow.
And Wheels got between us.
Scott Day got between us.
And Mitzi came on and go, oh, what happened here?
And he started saying, he goes, no, this kid's Cuban, blah, blah, blah.
But Mitzi seen the kid on the floor and fell in love with me after that because I pushed that motherfucker.
I was in LA this past Sunday, and Rose Gracie, the granddaughter of Helio Gracie, the grandmaster of Gracie Jiu-Jitsu, she decided to go old school with the Gracie Nationals.
I mean, it's just people are fighting for points and stalling, and it's ridiculous, and Rose Gracie decided to You know, make her the late great Helio Gracie proud and make it all just a submission-only tournament.
And these tournaments are becoming, this format is becoming more and more popular.
They do it in the Pacific Northwest at the Sub League in Oregon.
And they run smoothly.
People have been afraid of sub-only tournaments.
Tournaments because of time, you know, constraints and all that stuff.
But Rose Gracie made it work.
She had the balls to go.
No points, no advantages.
15 minutes submission only.
If you go 15 minutes without a submission, both competitors are out of the tournament.
So that's the ballsiest format there is out there.
And now the Gracie Nationals is the most prestigious submission only tournament on the planet.
And I think That's the future for jiu-jitsu because it was a lot more fun preparing for a submission-only tournament.
All we worked on was the fun stuff, the good stuff about jiu-jitsu, the finish, the closing the deal, the working on our squeeze.
For the Nogi Worlds, We had to spend time working on stalling techniques because when you're playing a point game and it's like six-minute matches, a guy will get a point or just a little advantage, which is even less than a point.
And once they're up, an advantage they'll hold.
And they won't do anything.
And people aren't used to...
You're wrestling with guys that are just holding on to leads.
In class, you don't just hold on to a lead.
No one's counting points in class.
So you actually have to prepare for that.
You have to specifically prepare for tournaments that are run by points.
And it's just so not fun preparing stalling techniques and stalling live drills.
What if a dude just holds on and doesn't do anything?
It's ridiculous.
So Rose Gracie decided to eliminate all of that.
And make the Gracie Nationals a submission-only tournament.
And she's also doing the Gracie Worlds.
In July, July 15th, in San Jose, you know, finally, you're gonna be able to get a world title.
In a submission-only format, which is the greatest.
It means so much more to win in a submission-only tournament than by points.
You're a world champion and you won by an advantage world champion.
Those days, it does nothing for The development of your jiu-jitsu.
It just gets you better at holding and stalling out and running out the clock.
It's just ridiculous.
So, mad huge props to Rose Gracie and her husband, Javi Vasquez, who put this tournament together and, you know, I think this is the future.
I think a submission-only format is the only way to go.
You know, we're taking bias refs completely out of the game.
They got the information, but what they don't understand, first of all, is his dad's name, Dana White, as well.
And they got a lot of the information they got was his dad's, including liens and where his dad used to live.
And now some other guy got harassed because his information got put online.
So this guy, like Dana, had to go to this guy's house and apologize to him.
But the kid is apparently a 13-year-old kid from Australia.
He doesn't represent Anonymous.
He represents people on the internet that don't like when people on the internet challenge them.
Like you say, you can't hack me.
I dare you.
They're going to hack you.
They're going to fucking hack you.
But that's not what I like about Anonymous.
What I like is that what it represents is people feel fucking helpless.
They feel helpless to this gigantic oppressive power that is controlling the world and running things in a way that they don't like.
And when these guys go after...
Department of Homeland Security, all these different websites.
When these guys try to take things down, what they're doing is they're lashing out and they're saying, hey, we can touch you.
We can reach you.
We can find your information.
Like when they went after that guy that pepper sprayed all those fucking kids in the face, those kids at UC Berkeley that were just sitting on their knees, They got all that guy's information.
They put that shit online.
That I like.
That I like because that lets that guy know, hey, you can't do morally fucked up things because you're doing it under the blanket of your job, the umbrella of protection that you think has offered you by being a police officer.
Yeah, people are assholes for bringing their kids to these rallies, because these things, things can break out in violence at any moment, especially in Oakland.
I think the internet is eventually going to be the government.
That's what I think.
I think the way that we're going to govern things is through the internet.
Because instead of these oppressive groups...
See, what really fucks us is that we don't really get a say in everything.
What we get to do is we get a representative.
We get to choose a representative.
And they almost all get into office and immediately just do whatever the fucking corporations that got them into power asked them to do.
That's what they do immediately.
They pass a bunch of bills like the National Defense Authorization Act that everybody's going crazy about that Obama passed, that he said he would veto.
All of that stuff, if you put that for vote to America online, what do you guys want to do?
No fucking way we would vote for that.
You can arrest us and detain us with no warrant.
Because what people have to realize is the people that you're saying yes to today, when you make a law and you say, okay, here's the law, These people today may not be the same people you're saying yes to 20 years from now.
Or even 10 years from now.
You can put laws into place that give evil, corrupt people.
I'm not saying Obama's evil and corrupt, but I'm saying what he did is an evil and corrupt thing and he opened the door for evil and corruption.
No doubt about it.
Because if someone wants to do that, some future douchebag, some Dick Cheney of the future, if he gets into a position and the National Defense Authorization Act is in place, guess what?
A bunch of people are going to go to fucking jail that are just protesting the government.
A bunch of people are going to go to jail for obstructing the way the United States runs.
They're going to go to jail as enemies of the state.
That's real shit.
None of that would take place if the internet was how we did our government.
And it sounds ridiculous, but why shouldn't it be that way?
What our government is supposed to represent is what the people want.
And what the people want can easily be found out on the internet.
It's easiest.
The easiest way to contact people and find out exactly what the fuck they want, regardless of nationality, regardless of the state where they live in, is the internet.
That is how things are going to be ruled.
It used to be you had to go to a place, you had to write down what you thought, and put it in a fucking box.
He has like 19 albums out, but one of the cool things hearing him talk about was he started off so early in the game that people didn't even know what rap was, and he would just open up his car doors and have a beat playing and just rap really loud with it.
And one guy came up to him and was like, man, I want to have that.
And then he just popped the cassette and sold it to him for five bucks.
And then he started selling it to all the drug dealers who heard about it, that lived in Oakland, all the Kingpin guys.
And so they all wanted their own personalized rap cassette.
So then he was having to write all these songs nonstop just to keep up with all these drug campaigns.
Stopping Anonymous would be like, yeah, they could spend all this money and time, and they'll find some 13-year-old in Australia, and then there's like a million other people behind that guy.
Well, the thing is, What they can do to prosecute people that they catch and how far they can go as far as shutting things down and controlling the infrastructure.
That's what people are worried about with this SOPA. With this SOPA, what they're worried about, again, it's not the people you're saying yes to today.
They might not be the same people you're saying yes to 20 years from now.
If you give the government the ability to just shut down websites, which, by the way, they already do.
They closed Mega Upload because they said that Mega Upload has a bunch of different illegal files on it, like wares, and they have a bunch of movies and shit, screeners and mp3s.
If there's a website, and if you're offering that service to people where they can just upload shit, and then you sell advertisement, which they do, right?
If you do have a service where you're just sharing files and providing bandwidth, you should be responsible for how much of that stuff is pirated, because otherwise you're a distribution angle.
You're essentially a distribution highway for illegal shit.
I think maybe, yes, you should be, but I think it should be more of like, I don't know, sharing of personal information if you are doing something illegal should be allowed, maybe?
Meaning like if the FBI comes to Meg Apple and goes, look, we know that you have Dances with Wolves on your server, and they're like, okay, we need to know who this user is.
I think then Meg Apple should be like, okay, here's the person's information.
Well, you know, better the corporation be shut down than the users going to jail.
That's the other devil's advocate is that these are just kids and they don't know any better and they think they're going to get away with it and they think they're just helping people out by providing files that everybody wants to get a hold of.
You know, look, the real problem is people have kind of grown up knowing that they can get shit for free now.
You know, that's like sort of how they're, that's how people feel.
They feel like shit is free.
You know, hey, I can get movies for free.
They joke around about it.
I've had people joke around on my own website about stealing my shit online.
They think it's cute.
You know, yeah, I'll get the Torrent, LOL. You know, and you're like, wow.
You know, like right in front of you, knowing that you, I mean, I don't...
It is what it is.
That's who you want to be?
That's all good.
But it's like they're so accustomed to stealing that they talk about it openly in front of the person's face on the website of the person who's selling the shit.
I don't think it should be like, yeah, you were sharing Dancing with the Wolves with seven other people, and I don't think that person should go to prison for 20 years.
I think you should have some kind of thing, like maybe, all right, you're not allowed to have the internet for a year.
But the real issue, Brian, is that that actually has crushed industries.
You know, like look at the music industry.
The music industry is fucked.
You know, one of the things that Dana White, Dana White actually wants to come on the podcast and he wants to talk about soul, but he wants to talk about all the shit that happened.
You know, I talked about interviewing him.
I go, let me interview you for UFC.com.
He goes, you know what would be better?
Let's do your podcast.
I said, all right, we'll do it.
So we're going to figure out when to do it.
And so, look, he's totally into free speech.
You just don't want him any ripping off his fucking product.
And then, you know, the amount of piracy is so widespread that people are actually pirating streams and then showing them in bars and charging people to go to those bars to watch pirated streams.
You know, there's a big difference between that person who's putting that up there and making money from thousands of people that are coming to the site and the person who's 14 years old, who can't afford the UFC, who's downloading it for free.
Like you're paying 20 bucks a month you get everything USA you know what else would be kind of dope if they had it like the way HBO pay-per-view has it where you If you like don't want to watch Oscar de la Hoya fight or Floyd Mayweather fight on HBO pay-per-view Next week the next Friday.
That would be pretty pretty dope I agree You know if like they had like huge cards like say Alistair Overy and fights Junior dos Santos and it's a big pay-per-view card how about throw it on Fox the next Friday and You know, you could watch a replay.
And that way, also, they'll know that they're going to put on some badass fight.
So if it's some, you know, if it's one of those fights that's not the most entertaining fight.
I mean, live fights are much better, sure, for Fox.
Maybe it's not Fox.
Maybe it's an FX thing, Showdown FX, the week after.
Not a bad idea.
But the thing about MMA is a lot of people buy the replays.
They'll buy it again, and they'll hear about how good it is, and they'll buy the replay.
On the music tip, what I found for me personally, like with iTunes and Torrance, is not only because people, I mean, the whole industry, the record industry just fell apart, but what's happening, and I know they gotta feel this, but...
I'm buying all my old shit on iTunes.
I don't want to pull out the CDs and load them into my computer and then upload them to my iPod.
I just want to get on my phone and I think of a song that I already have for my old record collection.
I think, just like Red Band said, when it's something that you can download illegally, like music or movies or anything, just sell it for as cheap as possible so that you got to sell it so that it's not worth going and downloading.
Well, you know, they came real close to having a UFC channel.
You know, they were going to have a UFC fucking channel at one point in time.
They were thinking about buying like a Spike TV or something along those lines and starting their own channel.
And that might very well be the future.
You know, who knows?
After they're done with the Fox deal or they might do it with Fox or, you know, who knows how all this comes together.
You know, the Fox things are strange, man.
It's the same, but it's not the same.
It's the same, but there's like all this extra talking.
You know, I see all this sitting around the desk and all this shit, and I watched it, and I was like, I feel like, you know, the way we did it Spike style, they could slide in another fight.
You know, there's some badass fights in that undercard, man.
You know, they could have slid in that Charles Oliveira.
But isn't it crazy that the main fights, except for the Bisping Summit fight, which is pretty exciting, the main fights weren't as exciting as the fights in the undercard.
But the majority of the shit now is like, hey, we're going to put Snooki inside this barbershop, and this barbershop's super gay because we casted him gay, and it's just going to be ridiculous.
Yeah.
It's completely fake.
And you know what's even worse about the whole fucking Jersey Shore thing?
All they do every episode is, there's gonna be a part in the episode where they're all getting ready to go out and they're all doing their fucking hair and putting on their makeup.
They go to Karma and it's the same shit.
You know what's crazy about it is, they are so retarded that you would think with all the cameras, with all the cameras and all their fame, That they would have girls crawling all over them.
They got cameras all over them and they're super famous and they have fucking bad nights and the girls are banging on like regular fucking Skeezes that they've been banging for a long time.
Like, your performers, like, they don't even have, like, a little site, a little spot where the performer can sit down or your girlfriend can sit down.
Like, they would want you to, you know, go stand outside, stupid.
Listen, I went to St. Nile one time because I got sick and tired of going to Harlem.
If they caught you getting weed in Harlem on the way back from Jersey, they would confiscate your car because you were interstate transporting over federal lines.
Those bridges in that tunnel, yeah, they're cute.
But if they catch you bringing drugs over, your car gets confiscated.
Not to me, because Marlon Brando is rock over fucking everything.
You know what I'm saying?
He's rocking.
When he told that motherfucker at the table that, you know what?
I do of all this situation here.
My son has to come back.
But if for some unfortunate fucking situation he should be struck by a bolt of lightning or he should be hung in his fucking jail cell, I will blame the people at this table.
And that I will not fucking forgive.
That's the greatest speech at the top of the album.
It's spelled P-E-S-T-A-L-O-T-I-O-P-S-I-S. Micro S-P-O-R-A. So it's a resident of the Ecuadorian rainforest and was discovered by a group of student researchers led by molecular biochemistry professor Scott Strobel as a part of Yale's annual rainforest expedition and laboratory You know, they go down there, man.
They have these scientists and these researchers go down there, and every now and then they'll find some fucking crazy shit.
There's like all sorts of medicines that have come out of the rainforest, incredible psychedelic drugs, all kinds of nutty fucking things, and they're chewing that bitch up every day.
It's like karma-free living, the way mushrooms live.
They literally live in shit.
They live the most humble life possible.
But it's a living organism.
It's the first fungus species to be able to survive exclusively on polyurethane.
So it lives on fucking indestructible plastic.
And more importantly, it's able to do that in anaerobic conditions, meaning the same conditions found in the bottom of landfills.
And this makes this fungus a prime candidate for bioremediation projects that could finally provide an alternative to just burying plastic and hoping for the best.
At the Gracie Nationals this past Sunday, not only did 10th Planet get the first place team title for the Gracie Nationals, but Danny also got first place in his division, tapping out two black belts.
He twisted a Joe Moreira black belt, and he guillotined UFC star Nam Phan in 29 seconds.
I had my first school open for maybe two years and I'll never forget.
I'll never forget when it was after a tournament me and a couple well-known jujitsu players were in the parking lot smoking some weed in our car and here's this little kid like two cars away just Standing there, looking at us.
And we're like trying to hide the weed.
Like, oh no, there's a kid there.
Hide the weed.
We're like hiding the weed and he knew exactly what we were doing.
The first time I got offered to smoke was I was in fourth grade.
So tell us about tell us about your first experience with like remember your birthday and all that kind of stuff oh yeah so for was it my my 15th birthday my brother and I we were gonna go down to this Greek convention it was like this Greek dancing thing and I'm like all right I want to I want to take it private with Eddie you know and He taught me the rubber guard.
Back then, he actually taught me London and taught me the invisible collar, the basic path, and taught me some twister stuff, taught me the meat hook, and I basically went back and all the stuff, I videotaped it.
And it never waver, because even to this day, to this day, I'm not just saying this.
To this day, he's definitely the most decorated 10th planet...
Competitor.
Yeah, he's won the most titles.
He's competed the most at the highest levels in straight grappling.
I have guys that have done MMA and they've done well, like Scott Epstein and all.
But at pure grappling, Denny has done the most.
And it's because he...
He drills and practices way more than anybody I know.
I mean, he's a jujitsu fanatic.
Not only does...
Like yesterday, we're rolling.
We're rolling.
And every move, every little trick I had, even the latest shit, the latest tricks, he would call it out.
He would tell me what I was thinking.
Nobody can do that.
Nobody can break down the 10th planet system like Denny.
Tell me exactly how I'm planning to trick him.
I've never had anybody do that.
He was calling everything out.
It was fucking me up.
Like, holy shit, this guy's reading my mind.
He studies the 10th planet system like no one else, and he studies all the new games that are coming up, like all the 50-50 stuff, all the leg lock, all the latest stuff that the Brazilians are coming up with, like Rafael Mendes and Cobrina, all the Spiral and De La Jiva.
This guy, he studies it like he has OCD. He's just obsessed.
In life, there's always people that are willing to take things to another level, that are learning quicker than everybody else, that have more passion.
And for folks who, you know, look, I get emails, I get Twitter messages all the time saying, thank you, I started doing jiu-jitsu because of the podcast.
For people who think you can't do it, if your body works, you can do it, alright?
You don't have to go in there and jump in there with killers.
You take beginning classes, you learn some technique, and it's fun.
And you know what, man?
You just gotta be able to be tapped out.
When you get tapped out, just tap.
Just tap and go right back in and figure out what you did wrong and learn.
And it is a vehicle for developing your whole life.
All martial arts are.
When you get through difficult things, a lot of people never physically get pushed.
They don't.
They don't understand what it feels like.
They don't understand what it's like to really exert yourself and to try hard and to grow and accomplish.
To accomplish something, to learn some new techniques, to develop and advance.
It's so important for everything that you do.
When you get really good at something as difficult as jujitsu, it makes everything in your life better.
What's going on, what makes it so much fun is a filter for douchebags.
Because in the sport of jiu-jitsu, the game plan is to tap someone out.
To put someone in a position in a choke hold or an arm bar.
None of it hurts.
You just tap out when you feel like you can't get out.
You tap out, give up, and then the guy lets go of the hole.
So that's like a kill for you.
No one got hurt, but you tapped out, you couldn't get out.
Douchebags can't They can't walk through the fire, those beginning stages where they're getting tapped out, they're losing the game, because they take it too personally.
Everybody has an ego, but douchebags have the biggest egos, so they can't go into jiu-jitsu and go through the learning phases where they're losing, where they're tapping out, losing a game of death.
You know, they can't handle it, so they never even get to jiu-jitsu.
The only guys that make it through are the guys that have a complete control of their ego, where they tap out in the beginning all the time.
You're always losing in the beginning.
You're just tapping out.
It doesn't hurt.
You're tapping out.
But your ego can get bruised if you don't have control of it.
So what ends up happening is jujitsu is the ultimate douchebag filter.
You're left with a bunch of guys that had no problem tapping out and no problem submitting.
Here's some crazy shit that was on MSNBC. MSNBC.com.
It's from Reuters.com.
In London, these scientists did these studies on people tripping on magic mushrooms, and it's given them the best picture yet of how psychedelic drugs work, and these British scientists are saying the findings suggest that such drugs could be used to treat depression.
This is all becoming mainstream shit, one after the other.
Over and over and over again, there's these studies that are coming to light now that are suggesting that all these different drugs, ketamine, they're saying that ketamine can be used as an instant cure for depression.
And one of the reasons why kids get addicted to ketamine is the first thing that ketamine does is alleviate all your worries.
Like, that's one of the reasons why people are doing it.
So now they're suggesting that ketamine can be used as some sort of an antidepressant, as some sort of an instant antidepressant quality, as well as psilocybin.
Two separate studies, the effects of psilocybin, the active ingredient in magic mushrooms showed that contrary to scientists' expectations, which of course is based on propaganda, It does not increase, but rather suppress activity in areas of the brain that are also dampened with other antidepressant treatments.
So they don't even understand it.
It's like they're saying that psychedelics are thought of as mind-expanding drugs, so it's kind of been assumed that they work by increasing the brain's activity, but they don't.
Surprisingly, they found that psilocybin actually causes the activity to decrease in areas that have the densest connections with other areas.
You know, people are addicted to meditation because, you know, if you could just think about one thought, like a water drop or whatever, you get into that zone.
I mean, no one knows what the fuck's going on when you're on mushrooms.
It's certainly something that should be studied, though.
And that's what I think is missing in, you know, in people's ideas of mushrooms.
Everybody's got this propaganda-based opinion on it.
Everybody thinks it's bad for you.
I mean, I remember I had this conversation with Michio Kaku once when we were on the Opie and Anthony show, and I suggested, you know, I asked him if he's ever done mushrooms.
And, you know, he asked, like I said, like, hey, you know, you ever smoke crack?
You ever do meth?
You know, it's like...
To a lot of people, that's like the same thing.
Like you say, you do mushrooms, and they don't want to mess up their brain.
But so much insight, so many different people have come up with insights because directly related to psychedelic experiments.
And I don't know if it's true, but the rumor was that Francis Crick, when he was dying, admitted, you know, that he was a frequent user of LSD, and that's how he came up with the idea, the concept of the double helix of DNA, you know, that he came up with it under the influence of LSD. There's been a bunch of,
I think the guy's name was Kerry, another guy, I came up with other insights on LSD and it's been geneticists and different people that have done ayahuasca that have had weird ideas and, you know, expanded on these ideas that came directly as a result of psychedelic experiences.
Who knows what it is, man?
I don't know, but it would be awesome if they allowed people to fucking study it instead of lock you in a fucking cage for experiencing something that's been here a lot longer than people have, you know?
So stupid.
We have a bunch of stupid people.
You were talking before this happened about the presidential debates.
I have friends of friends that are Mormons that I know.
They're very nice people.
It's one of the nicest religions.
What it gives them that's great is a great sense of community.
I've been to Mormon churches before.
They have a really nice sense of community.
They're very nice to each other.
And they really promote that.
They promote that feeling of family and that positive frequency.
And it really makes a difference, man.
I was at a Mormon funeral recently, and these people, man, they really believed that this guy was in a better place, and it really helped them that their loved one had passed on into a better place.
It really did, and I really support that.
I think that's awesome.
But that's just because the ideology happens to be in a good frequency.
But if you break down what the ideology stands for, it's ludicrous.
It's absolutely ridiculous.
It's absolutely doing some good for some of these people, but so would just being nice.
It would do the exact same thing.
So would just being humble and giving in to love and just being nice to people.
You don't need some wacky shit that was made by a con man, a 14-year-old con man.
Who found golden tablets.
And then when the people came to him, I'm like, where are these tablets?
I mean, to me, growing up, I despised all religions, I thought.
I thought it was all just crap and just destroying society.
But as I get older, I, for me, my opinion on religions is if you do it right, if it's based on unconditional love and doing the right thing, different religions are just like, it's a way to get your soul in the right frequency.
There's different ways to get your body physically, like there's Kettlebells, and then there's some people like to just run, some people like to swim.
All different ways to get your body aligned.
And I think all religions, as long as you do it right, whether it's Muslim or whatever, Catholicism, like my grandma, she did it right.
All she cared about was doing things for others.
And she was hardcore Catholic, went to church every day.
That was her exercise of the soul.
That is what got her frequency in the right place.
Some people do yoga.
Some people meditate.
Some people, you know, believe this.
Some people worship rocks.
If you really believe rock, the rock is the frequency of the universe and it gets your soul in the right place, I'm all for it now.
Yeah, it's an idea of just believing in something and then having a code that you live by and moving your life always in a positive way.
And that's good, no matter what you call it.
Whether you call it Hindu, whether you call it Kundalini Yoga, whether you call it Catholicism.
If you're really moving in a positive direction and you really believe in love and you really...
The idea of giving in to a higher power is not because God wants you to be humble or God wants you to be in awe of his greatness.
What it is is saying there's something above you, so not taking yourself so fucking seriously and instead not being out for number one.
And sort of realizing that we are together, like, there is a brotherhood and a sisterhood of man.
You know, that's really what it's supposed to be all about.
That's the good of religion.
And that's where I've seen religion help people, for sure.
And I was just like you growing up, man.
It was both of us, it was the same reason.
Because we had seen the system fail us.
We had seen all these people that were supposed to be correct and these people that were supposed to be adults.
We saw they were retarded.
We saw they were assholes.
We saw that it was all bullshit.
We saw that religion was being used negatively a lot of the time and there was a lot of guilt and there was a lot of yelling at you and there was a lot of nonsense.
And what people don't understand is that benefits you, man.
You can do that and do it in a selfish way.
I mean, it sounds stupid, but if you're a selfish person, you really want to succeed, you really want good things for you, you want to do it selfishly, be nice to everybody.
That's the best way to get ahead.
The best way to get ahead is just...
Be nice to everybody.
Tip people whenever you can.
Tip more than you're supposed to tip.
Give people hugs when you can.
Be nice to people all the time.
When you put out that good energy, you get good energy back.
You can almost think of it like people are like, I'm looking out for number one.
You really want to look out for number one?
Look out for everybody else.
Look out for everybody else.
That's how you really look out for number one.
I've had the most benefit in my life by being nice to people.
The most benefit in my life by being generous and being friendly and being warm.
And every time I've not been that, it's always fucked me.
And when I run into someone, especially now at this stage of my life when I've had my own personal revelations and my own successes and failures and I've kind of assessed what helps me and what doesn't help me.
When I run into someone that's life is a mess, when I run into someone that's got a lot of troubles, goddammit if it's not a big chunk of what the fuck got them there is the way they think about things, the way they behave about things, the way they take a cigarette and fucking throw it in the street.
You don't realize why your life is kind of shit while you're littering everywhere?
You're not putting out good energy while you're throwing your fucking McDonald's bag out the window because no one's looking.
You're being a cunt.
You're fucking up, man.
You're ruining space.
You're sending out bad things.
When you fuck somebody over in a business deal, you're like, well, I profited.
Hey, it's a dog-eat-dog world.
Bullshit.
You just put out some negative shit and it's going to come back at you, man.
That guy hates you.
Those people you fucked over in that bad development deal or whatever the hell you did wrong, those people don't like you now.
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You could literally see all the lessons that we're learning in class in San Francisco.
And if there's not a 10th Planet school near you, just go to any Brazilian jiu-jitsu school.
Any school.
It doesn't matter.
You know, if the guy's a douchebag, find another school or whatever.
But it's...
Any jujitsu is better than no jujitsu.
It's a good thing to have the skill to protect your family, to protect your loved ones by being an expert at scientifically subduing someone and putting them to sleep non-violently and getting the hell out and getting to safety.
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Oh, I should probably say something about this Fear Factor thing.
Yeah, Fear Factor got pulled off the air.
We were supposed to have an episode where contestants drank donkey semen and donkey urine.
So, look, I'm sure if we had to go back in time, they wouldn't do it again.
And the only way you find the limits of these things is you push them.
I think it was a mistake.
So it's over, and it'll probably never see the light of day.
Or five years from now, it'll air, because there's no way they would have considered doing it five years ago when Fear Factor went through its first run.
I mean, in season one, it was so tame and calm and easy and small compared to what it's like now.
Now it's just ridiculous.
The stunts are huge and crazy and explosions and nuts.
Who knows if they'll ever show that again.
I'd rather they not.
I think people shouldn't have to do that.
I think it's too much.
They fucked up, but, you know, whatever.
We learn.
Kill the show.
Kill the episode, and we'll march on, because we've got some good episodes coming up.
It's a way better show than it ever was before.
I hope this doesn't fuck it up for everything else, but I think everybody realizes that it was a mistake, including NBC, and they wanted to push things, and Just, you know, you don't find out how bad things are until you get people's reactions.