Duncan Trussell and Joe Rogan expose the military-industrial complex’s profit-driven wars, questioning why billions fund equipment while traumatic brain injuries go underfunded, and comparing power brokers like Newt Gingrich to "vampires" exploiting destruction for cash. They critique psychological conditioning—from CIA LSD experiments (Operation Midnight Climax) to Christian fundamentalism’s moral hypocrisy—and debate whether psychedelics or self-reflection could restore humanity’s lost empathy. Rogan mocks politicians’ absurdities, from Ron Paul’s anti-highway stance to Mitt Romney’s wealth, while Trussell frames systemic corruption as a failure of modern consciousness. The episode ends with a call for personal growth over conspiracy fixation, blending dark humor with sharp critiques of war, power, and societal detachment. [Automatically generated summary]
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Timothy Treadwell, and you start describing him getting eaten by a bear in this precise, microscopic way where every moment you're describing the bones crunching and his femur snapping.
I could just see his bones turning into jelly and his eyeballs bulging out as he's screaming for the bear to stop attacking him, but it won't.
Anyway, you're very good at that.
So after you've been hanging out with people who can professionally tell stories in the most detailed way, Then it's really hard to get around anyone who's going to say anything that offends you.
My favorite picture is there's a kid, and he's standing in front of the goatseed butthole, and the guy's spreading his asshole open, and it just says, Welcome to the internet.
You don't realize, though, you're not under the glove all day at work.
A lot of people are under the iron glove all day at work.
They're just stuck in an office where all their behavior is restricted.
Most of them even have to dress funny.
They have to wear weird things around their neck to signify that they mean business.
And you're walking around some office where everybody's stifled, and you're all forced together today, all day, to do shit you don't want to do all day long.
That's not good.
So people are buttoned down because of that.
Whereas you, you're smoking pot and playing World of Warcraft.
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Yeah, but you know what I'm saying?
That's your world.
You don't have a shit job that you get up to every morning.
It would be beautiful if that really was the case.
Could you imagine if you really had 100% faith in the U.S. military and you knew that there were bad guys and we're the good guys and it's clean, black and white.
There's no doubt about it.
We only do the right thing always.
We avoid war whenever possible and we would never engage in war for profit.
Scorpions climbed out of the volcanoes of the earth and they were like poisonous and deadly and they shot lasers out of their eyes and they could like burn you alive and you met someone who's like I've made the decision to go down and fight the scorpions.
You're going to go fight the laser-shooting scorpions.
It's incredible.
Now it's so muddied, it's like, well, you know, they don't even know.
A lot of them, they don't even know what they're doing.
doing like well we're going to afghanistan because um well you know we're going down there because uh You know, Obama's not going to veto this fucking...
Does this mean that you can arrest a United States citizen and detain them indefinitely?
I just tweeted it.
McCain is pretty straightforward.
If someone is a threat to the security of the United States, We should be able to arrest them and detain them because apparently like a lot of the people that they didn't detain indefinitely and they let out, according to McCain, ended up killing some troops.
What they're saying is, listen, this is some fucking dirty warfare and we need some extra power, but we're not going to abuse it.
But the problem is you can't get that extra power because everybody abuses power once they get it.
There was just...
Otherwise, there would already be an accounting for all the fucking money that's missing.
There would already be someone, some repercussions for all the lies that were told that led us to believe there was weapons of mass destruction.
Just straight up lies.
Think about what you can get in trouble for.
Think about...
How crazy insider trading is.
You can get arrested if you have information that you know a stock's gonna go bad.
Think about that.
But then think about the fact that someone somewhere lied about weapons of mass destruction.
They made up some sort of a story or they fabricated some evidence and it became the real reason why people supported the idea of going there and yet it didn't exist.
So if we know that and that's not chased down, Yeah.
You don't chase that down.
There's no big news follow-up and documentaries about it, how they chased that down and found out how it happened, locked everybody up and cleaned out all the people that they were in business with.
No.
It's just somehow or another, it kind of gets swept under the rug that a war was started on bullshit.
They've allowed...
Somehow or another hypnotized people to the point where people have allowed a war to be created on bullshit.
A country that had absolutely no connection that we could see, like a straight connection to Iraq?
What the fuck is that?
It makes no sense.
Oh, we've got to go over there and get him.
He's got weapons, mass destruction.
Okay, listen, we were going to go to war with the people that killed us, but we can't figure out who the fuck they are because apparently they're nomadic terrorists that have actually been living in America and training, let it fly.
Okay, okay, okay.
Since we get the...
They're all dead.
Since we can't get them, let's go get some people that look like them.
Dude, I walk my dog and I walk my dog past this house with these two ferocious dogs behind a fence.
I've got a little chihuahua.
And so the chihuahua loves coming and standing in front of this fence and barking.
Because what happens is the two dogs come charging down towards my chihuahua.
And barking at my dog, and one of them is so mad at my chihuahua that it starts biting the other one on its ass.
Oh, wow.
And it's the funniest thing you've ever seen.
It's just taking it out on the closest thing that it can bite.
Wow.
Also, isn't this known as...
Isn't it kind of like what happened in Afghanistan?
Isn't that called bull baiting?
Isn't that what it is?
Sometimes this is what really creeps me out.
I think that the...
The people that we're fighting in Afghanistan and the war that we picked with people, I think they're really good at fucking war.
You know, Afghanistan's called the graveyard of empires, and I think that the people that we're up against aren't just as stupid as a lot of people would like to paint them.
You know, they can't fucking...
They can't even read.
They're just hungry, starving people who can't even read.
They don't know what they're doing.
I think they kind of do know what they're doing.
I think that they...
I mean, Bin Laden...
Said, all we have to do is make it seem like we're going to attack and look at how much money the United States spends.
They turned on a fucking money faucet.
Look at what they did.
Look at what al-Qaeda did.
We now have a country where our military can arrest us if we're considered a threat to the security of the United States.
Sometimes it feels like we're on the precipice where they're going to stop even putting up this act that they're...
Debating and deciding and using courtrooms.
See, that's the problem with indefinite detention, because it's like, let's imagine that I think, I don't know, let's imagine I think that Alex Jones is a threat to the security of the United States because of the things that he's been saying are weakening the government, right?
So, let's imagine that the government, the federal government decides that Alex Jones is a real threat, and so they decide to arrest him.
They've got to put him on trial.
They've got to prove that he's a real threat.
Was he, like, manufacturing fucking explosives?
Was he planning on doing something to a federal building?
There would be a trial, and in the trial, they could use evidence to show if he was really a real threat, play his tapes, show what he was up to.
Now?
The military can just arrest him.
It's not even arrest, because they're not putting him on trial.
Yeah, they just come and get you, and they put you away indefinitely because somebody thought you were a threat to the security of the United States.
That chills me, dude.
That is so fucked up.
And if you think that that's just going to be used for, I don't know, whoever it is, these invisible people that I'm not even sure who they are, that are lurking in New York or wherever they're at, you're crazy.
If you think that's going to happen, fucking turn on some Waco footage.
You know, watch those fucking ATF agents torching that Koresh compound.
If you think that they're just going to fucking use this law for the worst and most extreme cases, no fucking way, man.
Think of what you saw that cop at UC Davis do to those kids that were on their knees because he thought he could because the law was on his side.
They weren't moving.
He told them to comply.
They did not.
So he thought it was okay to spray chemicals in children's faces.
And that guy is representative of human nature.
He's a representative of abusive power.
It's very simple.
It's no logic, abusive power.
Yeah, I get someone has made your life a little more difficult.
They made your job a little harder because now you have to look out for all these kids and they're all in this place where you don't want them to be.
But guess what, fuckface?
You're not allowed to spray him in the face with fucking chemicals.
That's assault.
You're assaulting kids and you think you're allowed to do that because of something written on a piece of paper?
Fuck you, stupid.
That's dumb.
You think that that's morally reprehensible, just innately.
It's in your mind you know that's a negative thing.
In your mind you know that a peaceful protest with students, with children who have this idealistic view of the world and you're going to squash it while you're wearing a bulletproof vest We're supposed to have the right to assemble.
We're supposed to be able to get together, even if it is private property.
So what he did with his book, which is remarkable and beautiful, is he managed to write the book with no moral or ethical slant to it.
You know, he's not saying like...
War is bad or you shouldn't go to war.
You should go to war.
War is good.
It's just describing the experience of war as purely as he can.
Exactly what it's like to get hit by a roadside bomb or exactly what it's like to be in the middle of a firefight and how they've studied adrenaline levels when you get into firefights.
Yeah, man, but the experience of war for a young guy, he says there's no drug like it.
He says that there's nothing that will get you as high as being in a life-or-death situation where you're defending the people around you who you are connected to.
They really are your brothers.
You're surrounded, you're with these people.
See, for the troops, that's what their war is.
Their war is protecting their dear friends from getting killed.
That's how they're taught.
They're taught, these are your brothers, you will give up your life for your brothers.
That's what they're taught.
And so you develop these intense bonds for the people around you that are formed from massive bursts of adrenaline.
You know, because when adrenaline, when your body's experiencing super dangerous situations, all the senses turn on.
I think it's an evolutionary trait designed to teach you so that you learn how to survive.
Way back when, if you were getting attacked by a tiger, You know how you remember everything in a dangerous situation?
Everything becomes crystal clear.
You see everything.
Everything's kind of in slow motion.
And then afterwards, you totally remember it with this vividness that you don't remember other things.
This is where a post-traumatic stress disorder, shock disorder, post-traumatic stress disorder comes from, is that people who get in really intense situations in war They get these fucking memories burnt into their brains like tattoos.
They can't forget it.
Their mind keeps going back to it.
Like when your memory wanders and you think back to a moment, it's kind of dulled and the colors are dim and you don't remember it.
Their memories go back to it 100%, so it's like they're there.
Their hearts start racing and it fucks up your life because this thing has been burnt into your mind.
In these situations, you're experiencing life at this super high voltage and you're experiencing with a group of people and you form bonds with these people that you don't have with normal people in life.
You form these intense bonds.
Maybe it's like the kind of bonds you form when you're with your wife and she's giving birth or something, when you're sharing those moments with people.
It's like that.
I think these effects are studied by the people whose job it is to make the troops efficient.
And they use these really intense conditioning techniques and stuff that a lot of these people aren't prepared for.
They don't know what they're getting into.
They don't know that they're getting into more than just defending their country.
They're getting into a well-studied system of brainwashing and conditioning that transforms them from normal American citizens into people who are willing to die For whatever their commander says.
You can't question what your commander says.
You can't question whoever the superior officer is about doing this or that.
You have to do it.
War couldn't work if that wasn't the case.
If each individual person got to decide, I don't think I'm going to shoot that fucking grenade, man.
I don't want to do that.
You know what?
The place down there where all the people are with the guns that want to kill me, I'm probably not going to go there today.
It's amazing how easy it is to sell the idea that you're supposed to go kill someone because some people that are in office, even though you know that everyone in office is essentially corrupted, but because those people are in office, they tell you you're allowed to kill these people.
Not only are you allowed to kill people, but when you come back, they'll be happy to see you.
Sure.
Whereas in any other time, if you find out that a guy killed somebody, like, look, this fucking guy, man, he's a good dude, but he went to jail for manslaughter, he beat some guy to death in front of a nightclub, and he's kind of fucked up, went to jail for 10 years.
You're like, I don't want to be around that guy.
That guy killed somebody.
But if you are around a war hero, it's a different feeling.
You're out there fucking making kids grow up without their dad.
You're out there fucking making it so that for the rest of their lives, there's going to be sentimental moments where a guy looks at a grainy picture of the person whose face you just turned to jelly and bone fragments.
For the rest of their life, they're going to be looking at this picture being like, man, I wonder what my It's crazy, man.
When you look at it for what the actual physical act of it is instead of looking at it as a patriotic American who supports everything that we do overseas and, you know, put a fucking flag on your window that says, God bless our troops.
You know, instead of just looking at it analytically, not even like casting a blame.
Well, what you're doing there, see, is you're walking through the laser in the museum that makes the fucking door shut in front of the diamond, you know?
It's like people have these tripwires in their brains where the moment you start talking about just the stuff we've been talking about now, you're hitting some conditioning that's been intentionally put there because if it's not there, then the country can't function as an empire.
I mean, you've got to have...
If you're going to run an empire...
The population has got to have deep and intense admiration for the military force.
Because if they don't, then the military force isn't going to function because the military force is made up of the population.
But it becomes, at a certain point in time, you have to wonder, when does the military force realize these guys that are paying you absolute shit money, the guys that we have to do foundations for, we have to do benefits for, you know, for traumatic brain injuries, People have to help and contribute.
To me, when I found out that they need money for traumatic brain injuries for hospitals to deal with these guys when they come back overseas with these horrible injuries, the first thing I thought is, man, how is that possible they let that become an issue?
How much would that cost in comparison to how much fucking money they're making over there?
How much would it cost?
Who's making money?
How about the fucking people that are making all the equipment?
Whenever you run into people who are soldiers, there was a coolest fucking guy at the Hermosa show we did, man, who said he listened to your podcast.
He was like a Special Forces guy.
And he was fucking cool, man.
And every time I run into those people, they're cool in an authentic way where you know you could be good friends with these people, you could trust these people.
But because everybody just dies, somehow or another, it doesn't seem like they're getting killed by monsters.
But they are.
They're being killed by psychological monsters.
They've been killed by people who are willing to kill people in order to profit.
And it's really that simple.
And it doesn't seem like it should be possible.
In 2011, but that's the business that they're in!
The guy who works at the fucking butcher shop, the guy who works at the slaughterhouse, okay?
Do you think that guy, at a certain point in time...
Don't you think he gets used to killing cows?
The fuck yeah, he does.
It's his job.
But if you had to go there today and you just were alone with the cow and all this machinery and then there was a fucking manual that told you exactly how you'd pull the cow into this and lead him into this spot and then send the piston through his fucking brain and then hook him up and then gut him, you would be so freaked out at the whole process.
It's like, when you hear about the friends of Bush that got all those deals in Afghanistan, all the contractors and shit, and how much they charge for work out there, they charge, like, Insane money.
Insane money for this stuff.
And you realize, oh, this is just the act of war.
It's just a way to test out some new technology and to get a lot of people some work and make a lot of people really rich.
Yeah, that's funny, because if it was like, let's say there was just a group of like, robed...
demonic magicians that lived in some giant black tower and they're like we need five thousand of your strongest and bravest men we're going to sacrifice them at the top of the tower and from their blood we will reap great energy you'd be like fuck you that's the evilest thing ever but if they're like We gotta send our troops over there to defend and fight for our country.
Suddenly you're like, oh yeah, it totally makes sense.
Pretty much directly telling Rand Paul that yes, with this bill, if someone is a threat to the security of the United States, you know John Mc...
This is from the person who fucking chose Sarah Palin as his vice president.
So that's how fucked up this man is.
When you hear him saying...
Yeah, we can indefinitely arrest United States citizens who are a threat to the security of this country.
You have to ask, well, what is John McCain's definition of security?
I know what mine is.
What's John McCain's definition of the security of this country?
Because I think it's wildly different from my idea and your idea and from most people's idea of the security of the country.
I think for John McCain, the security of the country means that The corporations are able to function without getting disturbed by people who have the gall or audacity to say that the way that wealth is distributed right now is unfair and is fucking up, is basically eating away and eroding the foundations of what this country is supposed to be about.
I think fucking McCain would very much like to take those people and put them in some indefinite detainment.
If he could.
And eventually, maybe it won't be McCain.
Maybe it won't be this year.
Maybe when this bill passes, it'll be 15 years before it happens.
Did you hear about this fucking ridiculous thing that Newt Gingrich said?
Gary Johnson outed Newt Gingrich about being a pot smoker and the fact that he was pushing for something that would make marijuana distribution after a certain amount, with a certain volume, you'd be able to be put to death, essentially.
When we saw those kids get run over by tanks and killed.
It was terrifying that their government is so fucking against them.
That their government is so cruel and so evil.
They've been willing to run over their citizens.
Run over the people whose hard work literally...
Funded the Empire.
Funded these tanks.
Every person chipped in a certain amount.
But because these people defy, because these people protest, they're going to run over them with tanks and crush them on television in front of everybody.
I think that maybe they know what they're doing in a really intense way because they've had infinite amounts of money to study human psychology and to understand how to control populations and they got it down to a science.
Man, there's a great fucking documentary on the BBC called The Century of the Self.
It's this guy, Bernays, who was like Freud's cousin.
And it's all about the ways that they started studying how to manipulate the perception of populations for the sake of corporations.
So, for example...
Cigarette companies approached Bernays and they're like, listen, women don't want to smoke right now because they think it's too masculine.
What do you think we can do to make it so that women want to smoke?
And so Bernays said, well, you need to make women feel like it's a form of activism or they're like pushing against male dominated culture.
It's like, make it part of the women's rights movement.
What they did is they got a bunch of these girls to march during the Macy's Day parade.
And at one point, they told all the press that they were going to do this.
At one point, the women lifted up their dresses and like pulled cigarettes out of their garters or whatever and started smoking in front of all these reporters who were snapping pictures.
And so the reporters put that in all these newspapers.
Women want the right to smoke.
Now all of a sudden what Bernays did or what the cigarette companies did is they tied into the DNA of the women's rights movement smoking.
So now smoking becomes an empowerment and a sign of feminism and all of a sudden women start smoking and it totally fucking works.
Jesus Christ.
Yeah, it totally works.
So it's like, so stuff like, and that was a long time ago, man.
So that was a long time ago.
So they started studying, you know, they started studying.
It's just like, imagine like somebody who heard sheep, or imagine somebody who is in charge of any kind of animal, a beekeeper, for example, or anyone who's in charge of controlling animals.
They're experts.
They know how to like, they know how to do, like turkey hunters are the same way.
They know how to do turkey calls in just a perfect way to make a turkey appear and to blast it.
So I think that people put a lot of money into studying human perception, the way people work, and I think maybe what we think, the amount of control that we think we wield, it's an illusion.
When I see those fucking Black Friday videos, You know, when you see the Black Friday videos of thousands of people stampeding through a Walmart, banging down the door of a fucking Walmart like zombies, have you ever seen that video?
When you see that, To me, it's like, man, maybe you and me and a few other people have these ideas, but in general, as a herd, it seems like they've gotten people so doped up and dumbed down that I don't know that they're making too many mistakes.
He was on the podcast yesterday, and one of the things he was talking about was the importance of creating a community, like a good community of people.
You feed off their energy, and those people that you're around, you feed off their energy.
that's one of the reasons that people um advise uh spending time in ashrams or spending time around people who are meditating because you um from being around people who are working and also it's the same with martial arts you want if you're around people who are fighters and you see the different forms and styles that they're using that's gonna you're gonna evolve just from being around them and seeing what they're doing their techniques yeah so yeah it you know it's like you when Well, you learn techniques of thinking too.
So in that same way, this podcast has, because of the incredible connection it's given me with shitloads of fucking people, my evolution sped up because I'm constantly getting amazing videos, book recommendations, basic things from people.
As I've been a part of it, as doing the podcast, being a part of it, it's completely enhanced my perception of things, and people have cleared up things that I didn't understand before.
People have sent me alternative points of view that also should be considered.
There's so many interesting bits of information that keep coming at you from all these different forms.
What I was getting at is that what these people have put together, what the people involved in the military-industrial complex have put together, is a very high-level evil version of that.
They have a high-level evil version of thinking, where everyone is thinking along the same way, and you have to make sacrifices, and you've got to crack some eggs to make an omelet, and all of this.
Thinking is put into like a mindset, and that mindset is enforced into the troops, beaten into their head, supported through their ranks, applied to corporations.
Imagine that they weren't fundamentalist Christians.
Imagine they were just, you know, cultists and they believed in a dark god.
They worshipped a dark god and this dark god was a child sacrificer and had sacrificed its own son at one point, spilled the blood of its own son.
Out of some sense of obligation or power and that they were praying and worshiping daily to a dark god who was planning revenge on the majority of the human race and was right now at this very moment planning and getting ready to destroy the planet with plagues and Different horsemen and trumpets and weird crazy fucking angels that are going to fly down and kill and poison the waters of the earth and they're worshiping this God daily.
They go to church and worship a God that wants to destroy the planet every fucking day.
They pray to this God, Oh Lord, give me the courage to lead today so that I may be prepared for when you return and destroy the planet.
That's who they fucking pray to, man.
That's God.
They pray to God.
They pray to a God that wants to wipe us out, throw us in hell, kill the fucking homosexuals, destroy the majority of the planets.
All that's left is a few John McCain-style honkies with their feet in a river of blood, waving up at Gabriel or worshiping God, like walking down streets of gold, waving American flags.
That's the freaks who are, a lot of them are running this fucking country, man.
That ain't good.
That's not good.
That's bad.
I don't want anyone having access to a nuclear arsenal that worships a god that's planning on, at some random time, blasting the planet I'm living on and wiping out the majority of the people because he's pissed about what they did to his fucking hippie kid 22,000 years ago.
Like, come on, man.
Forget about it.
I wasn't alive back then.
I can't help it that they fucking threw your kid up on a cross.
I had nothing to do with it.
Why are you coming back to kill their descendants, you weirdo?
Give us a fucking break.
Your God traveled back in time and pluck him off the fucking cross, man.
Can he just come down and give us better directions?
He just gives you this game, and you just fuck this game up, and you're supposed to read some old manual on how to play the game, and it's interpreted through three different languages, and it was just a spoken word thing for a thousand years before that.
So who knows how much of it is fucking valid.
And this is how you're playing the game, and you're fucking up along the way, and everybody's telling you, keep fucking up, and he's going to come, and he's going to take you away.
he's gonna take you away and he's gonna put you in a dark dark place forever but there's these thoughts and they have these ideas and these urges and they seem to be natural you better suppress those oh yeah but I wanna fuck I wanna fuck all the time you're gonna go to hell don't do it you're gonna go to hell this guy's an asshole I wanna kill him you can't do it You can't kill him!
And that's the most amazing thing, that these same people, all of a sudden, you're allowed to kill them if some sanctioned group says.
And you can even say you're doing it for God.
May God bless you all.
Wow.
God is blessing us to go Jackson people we don't know.
Duncan made a video with Natasha, a hilarious video.
What's it called?
It's called Falling Apart for Adam TV. And the idea of the video, there's a scene where the girl starts taking off fake parts.
And there's a scene in I'm Gonna Get You Sucka where the same thing happened.
Where he's alone with this girl.
girl keen and ivory wayans is alone with this chick and she starts taking off all these parts i completely forgot about that even though i'm a big fan of keen and ivory wayans and i know i saw that movie i completely forgot about it and i know that duncan did not know about it because when first of all i know duncan he would never do something like that you're one of the most you have some of the the most clear artistic integrity out of almost anybody that i've ever met thanks man it's you're You're 100% legit in what you do to the point where you wouldn't even do the Pauly Shore reality show.
There was a lot of reasons that I walked away from that.
And one of the biggest ones, aside from the fact that I desperately didn't want to be in it, was that I had gotten trapped at that job as a talent coordinator.
I'd been doing that job for a long time, and I needed a way out.
And it was just a perfect exit mechanism for me.
So that show was like...
I'm so happy that that show happened because it got me the fuck out of there, man.
Was from watching Natasha take her earrings off and I was watching her take her earrings off and then I started thinking about like how like when you're dating someone you're like trying like when you're in a relationship with someone used or you start dating somebody and you know Part of it is you begin to disassemble their personality.
The more you get to know someone, when you've been with someone for a very long time, you're in a relationship or you're married, you get to know the deepest part of them.
You end up getting to know very, very deep parts of them that are hidden by their personalities and things that they don't...
ever display in public or maybe they don't even know about you get to know the deepest levels man when you're when you've been having sex with someone for a long time and you know like the deepest level of a person and you've been living with someone so anyway I was thinking like man it's so weird how that's what it's all about is basically just like plucking away the different pieces of someone until all they are is this primal spark that you're fucking so that was the idea that's where it came from and That's what you think of when you look at Natasha taking off her earrings?
I think that it's the exact same device, which is disassembling a woman, but the ending's totally different, and the point of the thing's totally different.
But to me, what was really surprising and intense about it was that some people, like...
Really use that against me and like kind of like a really angry fucking way like on Twitter like YouTube like how have you been like I didn't even know this happened I got some like shitty messages from people but it's like if I'm gonna steal right if I'm gonna steal I'm gonna steal something I'm gonna steal a sketch I'm gonna steal fucking something you know what I'm not gonna steal it from I'm not gonna steal it from a fucking Wayans movie Why it's so obscure, it's probably easier to hide.
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I'm Gonna Get You Sucka is one of the most popular...
There's certain animals that never metamorphosize.
Is that the word?
Metamorphosize?
There's certain animals that if the conditions are incorrect or if there's pollution in the environment, all kinds of different factors have to be taken into account.
It's a silly hippie argument that everybody needs psychedelics.
I'm not saying everybody needs them, but goddamn a lot of people could use them.
If they would just study them and they would just distribute them through experts.
Imagine what this world would be like if we had centers where you could go as a young man to have a psychedelic experience to get a broader view of the universe.
and they do blood work on you and make sure you're healthy.
And then they sit you down and you watch documentaries and you take a class.
And when you graduate from the class, and the class is all about pharmacology and the way that different things interact with your body.
And when you're done with this class, you feel educated and you feel like you can make your own decision whether or not you want to try this.
And if you do want to try it, then they have a ceremony.
And every kid goes in there, and you all, with proper meditation techniques, proper education as to what the history of the use of these substances is, and the history and the anecdotal evidence that it may have been responsible for the actual birth of religion, that this might be what religion is all about, it might be psychedelic experience.
If we could have that, we could have communities where we did that.
Well, you'd have a big, giant football field full of people that are doing mushrooms and are putting out positive energy and are there and are balanced, healthy people that want to unite together as a species and want to embrace each other and help each other and no one ever get greedy, but let's all work together and do this together.
And you could have a football field filled with people doing this, a stadium filled with people doing this.
It's not just, you know, everybody fuck everybody and feel good about it.
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Yeah, we've talked about this before when Duncan was on, and like, you know, that might be good for like five out of ten people, and the other five, they're so terrified they're not going to ever leave the house again.
That's not necessarily the case, because if it was done correctly through some sort of a shamanic center where they actually evaluated people and taught them and educated them, you'd probably be able to weed out the people who were fucked up.
And you'd probably be like, dude, reality itself is a little fucking slippery for you.
Maybe you should not be doing this.
Maybe we should look into, like, Ritalin for you.
Maybe we should, you know what I'm saying?
Sure.
A lot of people are 100% anti-depressants.
They're like, fuck that, dude.
You're ruining your brain chemistry.
Fuck that, dude.
Don't let them change your brain.
I know several people where it's literally changed their life for the better and saved their life maybe even.
The main rule is this is your incarnation and you get to do what you want with it.
The idea is to, as much as you can, expand your levels of happiness and your awareness so that you can feel connected and good in this existence.
There are a lot of tools to do that.
Some of the tools take a long fucking time to do.
And I think when McKenna was talking about mushrooms being the most obvious tool to transform, to create a huge, wide-scale transformation on the planet, he recognized that there's not a lot of time.
That's what he was thinking.
It's not like we've got a ton of fucking time to create meditation temples or to spread good information or to spread some new religion.
There's no time for that shit.
If you really wanted to transform these weird people who worship invisible homophobic child-sacrificing gods, if you wanted to transform people who feel comfortable dropping bombs on other people, then the quickest way to do it would be to give them a substance that allowed them to connect To each other into the earth and to develop an instantaneous form of empathy unlike anything else.
And then when they came back too, it'd be much more difficult to think about, to perceive their weird invisible God in the same way.
That numb arm is scratching the fuck out of reality.
And we don't know because we just can't feel it.
But if we could just feel it, if we could add this other ingredient into the mixture that is life, well then, okay, now all your pieces are in order and now you can see and feel what you're doing.
Because the big problem with human beings when it comes to...
When it comes to destroying the atmosphere, when it comes to the idea of these nuclear disasters, we're not feeling it.
We don't feel it.
We don't feel the damage that we're doing.
We don't feel the garbage patch in the ocean.
We don't feel anything when you take a water bottle and then you toss it in the garbage can.
You did your job.
I'm done.
I'm done.
I have no connection with this anymore.
And then we don't feel when it goes into the ocean and becomes a fucking patch that's floating that's as big as Texas.
We don't feel that.
And that...
That is a lack of a connection.
That's a missing thing.
That's an animal that doesn't have all of its ingredients.
The value of positivity is so important when you're on a substance.
That is where all bad trips come from.
All bad trips come from some negativity, whether it's paranoia, whether it's a fear, whether it's a bad memory that you have that you're trying to avoid, shitty behavior that haunts you that you can't correct.
Whatever the fuck it is that triggers the bad trip, it's always a negative thing.
Well, what it is, what's happening is when you're taking a psychedelic, you're being given a glimpse at yourself from a distance that maybe you haven't obtained.
And meditation will give you that distance.
It gives you a form of intense mindfulness.
And so all of a sudden, you're able to see the...
I think the root of whatever pattern your life has become.
And the root is a feeling.
And that feeling for a lot of people can be a negative feeling.
And so that's when people say, you know, I don't like smoking pot, man, because it makes me get introspective.
I get paranoid and nervous.
It's like, no, pot is not making you paranoid Pot is showing you the paranoia that exists deep within you that's causing you to act fucking weird and causing your relationships to be a little more dulled than they need to be and causing your actions to be a little muted because you're afraid of the reaction that people are going to have to you because you're still stuck in survival.
You want to survive so bad that you're scared and you've covered that up with all the different whatever clothes you've decided you're going to wear in this incarnation and Your tattoos or whatever you've learned.
But deep within that, behind all that for a lot of people, is something that you could easily term negative energy, but I think it's fear.
Yeah, it's fear.
And psychedelics show you that.
And so the way to trip and these sinners that you're talking about, and if really these sinners were there, then when someone started experiencing a difficult trip, then...
These people would, instead of getting them away from that, they'd, in the best way possible, try to turn the person to it.
Like, what is that fear?
Is that fear real?
Because the joy of a psychedelic is when you have the balls to go into the darkness and all of a sudden you realize that darkness was a complete illusion.
All the darkness and negativity and spooky shit and guilt and fear and crap you thought was inside you and all the bad things you thought you've done and all the things that you feel terrible about secretly you realize, that's nothing!
It's an illusion!
The universe loves you.
You're completely embraced by the entire universe.
You're an incremental part of the functioning of the cosmos, and you're an incredible, wonderful, perfect fucking thing.
And when you get a glimpse of that, it's the greatest feeling ever, because you're healed.
Because that's what true healing is, man.
True healing is realizing you were never sick in the first place.
True healing is realizing you just had some fucking, you had a little bit of dust on the windshield, man.
You had to You brush it off, you know?
That's all.
And that's what psychedelics do for you.
And you know what else does that for you?
Really good therapy.
But really good therapy costs a lot of money and it takes a long fucking time.
We've all fallen into a mindset, and a lot of the fundamentalist Christians, they've fallen into these rituals and patterns, but they don't have a real connection anymore.
so they're faking it or they're actually just like taking cues from like really charismatic lunatics wouldn't it be awesome if the military really was our bravest and boldest who wanted to protect us and who were led by the the most moral and intelligent people on the planet yeah and that these really truly were heroes and in case some shit goes down they're never puppets they're They're only heroes.
There's no doubt whatsoever that they're only doing the right thing.
I don't think they're doing it all the time, but it has happened.
Not only has it happened, but in certain states...
God, was it Georgia?
I forget what state it is.
Anyway, the point is that it's literally written into insurance laws.
There's things about chemicals spraying that you insure against them.
I believe I'm speaking out of hand right here because I don't know the exact details of it.
It seems a little blurry in my mind right now while I'm trying to pull it up.
But I remember whatever it was, this little piece of legislation, whether it was something about insurance or not, whatever it was, it was written down.
It was essentially saying that there will be weather-controlled experiments, that they will do something to alter the weather.
And we know that in Abu Dhabi, they made it rain 50 times last year.
Dude, on the Century of the Self thing, they were interviewing the fucking main psychologist for the CIA during the 60s and the 70s, and he was just talking about all the shit they did with LSD experiments where they wipe people's pasts away.
They would blast you on acid and give you electroshock therapy.
To try to fucking erase your personality?
Like, they've done all kinds of crazy shit.
And they probably are continuing to do crazy shit.
And there's a really good chance that when you're driving through any public space, you're being bombarded with subliminal messages.
And all the billboards that you're seeing that are turning you into a fucking rabid consumer that only wants to eat and drink and doesn't ever want to think about anything more than getting a raise and getting drunk at night.
It may be that this is all intentional.
But what I'm saying is...
If you worry about that too much, then you're not going to do your dishes, and you're going to have roaches in your fucking apartment, and then you're going to start feeling depressed, and then you get really caught deep in the trap.
The first thing you have to do is, like, come to your senses.
That's the first thing, and the easiest way to come to your senses is to, like, stop taking the fucking, stop putting the pills in your mouth.
You know in, like, movies about mental asylums?
start putting the pills under his bed and have that little line of pills under his bed and all of a sudden he's come to his senses again and he can plan his escape but until you fucking stop taking the pills you can't plan your escape so it's like okay yeah maybe there's some fucked up shit happening in the world but you got to stop smoking maybe there's some fucked up shit happening in the world but you should run a few times a week
Maybe there's fucked up shit happening in the world, but you need to take a shower, brush your teeth, floss, get clean and healthy, and then when you have more of a clear head, then you can start making real moves and really analyzing what may be happening.
You've got to deal with the fucking tyranny in yourself.
You've got to deal with the fucking demonic senators and congressmen inside of you that keep telling you to eat a fucking cheeseburger and a bag of Doritos before you go to bed.
Stop those fucking people first.
Veto their bills that are coming from inside your heart.
I'm just thinking, remember in the movie Kung Fu, when the flaming pot's in front of him, and one side has a dragon, and the other side has a tiger, and he picks up the pot with his forearms.
I'll tell you what part it, because I tweeted it, what part the guy starts talking shit about me.
But he's one of those dudes, and this is the truth.
Listen, there's a lot of people that got upset at me because I said things about Kung Fu.
And there's a lot of people because I said Kung Fu is kind of bullshit, and a lot of it is just like a bunch of people practicing things.
If I come at you like this, what would happen?
I would move to the side and I would attack this way.
It's like a one step.
In Taekwondo, we used to have things called one steps.
And what it is is you would throw a kick and the other guy would counter.
And what it was is to imprint into your mind what to do once you start sparring.
And then eventually you start sparring.
But when you start sparring, that's when techniques really get weeded out, and that's when you understand what is the most effective use of energy and force, what techniques work the best, what techniques are really truly applicable, and what techniques are really kind of frivolous and a waste of time.
There's better alternatives.
Well, Kung Fu never did that.
They didn't have all the sparring.
They didn't have...
Kung Fu didn't, like, go and enter into an Ultimate Fighting Championship where it was public and everybody figured it out and it was spread out through the internet.
So there's debate amongst all the minds of different martial artists, whether they're kickboxers or wrestlers.
There is a genuine consensus when it comes to mixed martial arts.
And that genuine consensus is, here's the school...
Here's the group of effective techniques...
This is what actually works.
Yes, you can wheel kick someone in the face.
Absolutely.
It's difficult to pull off, but you can wheel kick someone in the face.
He would talk, man, I hit you in the face with a monkey paw.
You're going to be upset.
So I'm like, so there's a monkey paw.
Then it must be real.
See?
In his style of martial arts, it's real.
But in this one kung fu guy, it's a leopard paw.
And that's the only technique that works.
I'm not saying that your shit won't work, and it's definitely better than knowing nothing at all.
But as far as is it the best thing to practice, no.
There might be some good benefit to it, but if you want to look at the real true evolution of martial arts, what is martial arts?
What a martial art is, is an art where you figure out what is the best way...
To attack and disable a trained killer.
That's what you want to be good at.
You want to be good at beating trained killers.
You don't want to be good at beating people who don't know what they're doing.
Because that's what a lot of people are doing.
What a lot of martial arts are, it's you're developing techniques that really will never work if you're fighting against Anderson Silva.
You're not going to get them off.
There is no best one.
The best one is all the effective techniques of all the martial arts.
It's takedowns from wrestling and judo, kicking from karate and Muay Thai, jiu-jitsu, submissions from judo and jiu-jitsu.
There's all these different things.
Leg locks from sambo.
It's all of these.
And you don't have to have – there's no correct combination of what to use.
Some guys only use a few of the components, but they have a very unusual physicality or they're very good at one of these aspects to the point where, especially like a stand-up fighter, like a guy like Anderson Silva, that's his number one specialty, stand-up.
And he's so good at it, every fight starts standing up, so he has an advantage.
At the beginning of every fight, he has an advantage.
And if you can get to that spot, you don't have to be the best wrestler.
Anderson's not taking people down.
I mean, I'm sure he could if he wanted to, but you very rarely see him taking people down.
He just blasts everybody.
So if you can get really good at certain aspects of it, there is no exact formula what to do.
But as far as techniques, there's a general consensus of techniques that work.
The basic kicks, front kicks and round kicks.
There's the crazy ones, axe kicks, wheel kicks.
All this stuff works.
But you know what doesn't work?
What doesn't work is crane techniques when you're standing.
I mean, it will work, but it's better to box.
It's better to curl your knuckles up and blast them in the face.
A lot of people, dude, and this is a very uncomfortable subject, I think a lot of people have very weak brains, just like some dudes have little dicks.
You know, you ever seen a guy in a movie and he has a little dick and you laugh?
But, you know, when you watch an R-Rated Hypnotist show, rest in peace, Mr. Frank Santos, who is the guy that I'm discussing, a longtime friend, very hilarious R-Rated Hypnotist, but he would go on stage and he'd bring people and they would sit down and with the smallest amount of work, I mean, close your eyes, concentrate on what I'm going to say.
I'm going to concentrate on my breath.
Three, two, one.
When I hit one, you're going to think you're with Madonna.
Madonna.
Because back when Madonna was hot, Madonna's underneath you, and she's naked, and you're going to have your wee-wee inside of Madonna.
On the count of one.
On three, two, one.
Where are you, John?
You see this guy who is just a normal person.
It was just 15, 20 seconds ago.
He was just sitting there with his eyes closed.
And now, this guy really thinks he's fucking Madonna.
Watch the guy come in his pants.
I watched the guy cum in his pants.
Frank Santos told him to cum in his pants.
He's like, oh, you're not going to be able to hold it.
There's hypnotism where you can sit down and someone can put you in a very relaxed state where you are cleared of all your distractions and cleared of all your connections to the world and they talk you through this.
They talk you into a mindset where you're open to suggestion and where you're open to objectivity.
That's a type of hypnotism.
And it's a legitimate type of hypnotism.
And it does get you to a certain state.
But you're conscious of what's going on the whole time.
He's not getting you to suck his dick.
He's not telling you there's an elephant in the room that's going to cut your head off.
He's not freaking you out with bullshit and nonsense and trickery.
He's just kind of guiding your thought pattern.
But there's also...
that doesn't work on everybody, but it does work on dummies and that dummy hypnosis.
If you're a guy like Frank Santos, you can get people to think they're having sex with Madonna in a stage, on a stage in front of 300 strangers.
You really can do it.
I've seen it.
I don't understand it, but I don't understand people that are allergic to peanuts either.
I don't think the human body is, It's not uniform.
There's some people that have a weird glitch.
It's like some cell phones, you can fucking hack into them with somebody else's cell phone.
You know the sacrifices they've made, too, in the name of progress when it comes to LSD. They dosed a whole fucking village in France, including women and children.
The Freedom of Information Act, it was revealed like, I don't know, shit, I want to say 2009, but I don't remember when the exact date it was revealed.
But the CIA did a fucking LSD experiment in a small French town and dosed the entire town.
Here, I'll look it up.
CIA dosed French town acid.
Yeah, dude, they didn't give a fuck.
Here, the CIA dosed an entire village with LSD. Yep.
Incredible story.
Back in the 50s, an entire French village suddenly went mad.
It was not as previously thought due to an ergot, fungus contamination of the village baker's bread, Wow.
Wow.
And by the way, they're responsible for the fucking unibonomer.
Yeah, you told me about that.
Yeah, he was a part of the fucking LSD experiments at Harvard.
That's why you have to begin to ask yourself, which components of my belief system are things that I've arrived to naturally from my observation of nature, and which parts of them are placed into me by a system designed to turn people into consumers?
And I think that more often or not, A greater percentage of your personality than you would like is not you at all.
It's a tapestry that's been cleverly woven by a system designed to make people feel totally normal, spending the majority of their lives driving in a commute and working in a shit job and being tired all the time.
The CIA ran a brothel in San Francisco and New York, and they dosed the Johns because they couldn't find any willing participants in their LSD studies because, unfortunately, they gave people Pepsi bottles full of shit and blew their fucking brains out.
They weren't sure of the dosage when they first started fucking around with LSD. They wanted to know what would happen.
We're going to do shots.
We're going to do whiskey, son.
Do a shot of whiskey, and you're actually doing a shot of acid.
Wow.
You know what McKenna described molecularly?
He said LSD has the power of an ant that could disassemble the entire Statue of Liberty in 30 minutes.
But imagine getting it in a town and you don't know you're having it.
For a lot of people that don't know, that's the number one theory of the Salem Witch Trials.
The Salem Witch Trials has to do with the first thing they were saying about, as previously thought, it was an ergot, fungus contamination of the village baker's bread.
Apparently what happens is, when you have a crop of wheat or whatever the fuck it is, any kind of grain, and it freezes, if they have a frost, and then it...
Yeah.
Like it fucks up the plant, and the plant gets contaminated sometimes by certain funguses.
And ergot, when it contaminated, they've done core samples of this point in time, you know, whenever the 1600s, whatever the Salem wish trials were.
And they found these late frosts that they think could have attributed to ergot infection.
And then they found evidence of ergot.
So they're pretty sure that when all these people went mad and crazy and they started burning women, they were whacked out on their bread.
And they thought that someone was poisoning them.
They really did think it was witchcraft.
Which makes much more sense Then, you know, like, it was just a religious thing.
It was just...
Which is possible.
I mean, we've seen horrible things done in the name of religion, but when there's a whole group of them and it's all in one area and all those other pieces are in place, there's a fucking psychedelic compound that makes you lose your marbles and it's in your bread?
So, you know, for one season or whatever season that this happens where they get this grain and this grain is infected with the ergot, that's the season where everyone's jacked and fucked up.
I think there's a difference between historians and archaeologists.
I'd love to know.
But I've read McKenna talking about how...
Getting rid of the witches was part of the transformation into male-dominated culture.
The burning of the witches was a representation of the shift from, what is he, he has a great name for it, dominator culture or something, what does he call it?
Yeah, maternal, matriarchal, mushroom society to a patriarchy where the way that you taught people is through like the god of that society teaches people by beating the shit out of them and punishing them forever.
It's not the way that a mother is supposed to be.
And so the witch trials were the shift from one form of nature-based religion into a new form of religion where people started worshipping the invisible, like, freak, homophobic.
Well, you know, it's a weird thing, man, when, you know, the whole idea of happiness and pleasure is a lot of it revolves around people wanting to be around you.
And a lot of it revolves around the opposite sex wanting to be around you.
And for most of us, you know, look, the reality is most of us are not that attractive.
You know, there's not that many people that are, like, really attracted to you.
And for a lot of people, their life is a constant series of rejections, and especially for women.
Guys, they're dumpy, they have no self-esteem, they get a couple drinks in them, and they're Hey, you think maybe I could fucking get some of that ass?
They like say something awful knowing, you know, like really it's just like a lack of confidence.
Like people would say that they're a dickhead, but really a lot of it is like a preemptive attack because you think eventually this person's going to destroy your soul because that's your experience with relationships.
That's your experience with interacting with women.
Every time you've attempted to interact with women, they've let you know that you're repulsive.
Some Pavlovian response to women where you're pissed and you're fucking all of a sudden you're like using tricks from the game to try to say shitty things to girls to like discombobulate them and somehow like trick them into fucking you instead of just getting them to have sex with you because they like you because you're a good person.
And part of the reason why people can't realize that is because people are selfish.
You know, I have a friend, and he will remain nameless, but we had a conversation where he was getting dumped, and he was super upset about it, and he didn't know how to deal with it, and he was asking me for advice.
And I said, do you love this girl?
And he said, yes.
And I said, well, if you love her, you should want her to be happy.
And if her being happy means her being with another man or another person, you should respect that and you should love her still.
I go, this is just a human being and people break up and I don't hate everyone I used to date.
In fact, with time, I love all of them.
Even the ones that I didn't get along with, man.
When I look back on every single girl that I ever dated, I swear to God, I only...
We'll allow the positive thing.
I have some negative stories that are really funny, but in my mind, when I'm thinking about that person, I only think about them when I love them.
I only think about them, no matter what went wrong, no matter what horrible thing was said that made the whole thing fall apart, I refuse to define them by that, and I instead define them by their potential, by what they meant to me when they were at their best.
But it's really fucking hard to teach people that, man.
It's really hard to over and over again realize when you fall face first into the fucking dirt that you're thinking is incorrect and that it's not empowering and you're not helping yourself or anyone else and in fact you're devaluing yourself into this person's eyes because you become desperate and you have no personal sovereignty.
A man that can't be without a woman when a woman doesn't want to be with a man is a repulsive thing.
We've all seen it, man.
It was an episode of Fear Factor we had this week where there was this poor guy and his wife didn't want to have nothing to do with him anymore.
They divorced and she was fucking, you know, just living her life and they were still connected because they had a kid together and she would just mock him openly and publicly and she had no desire to fuck him again.
She was just ready to make fun of him and it hurts.
It hurts watching it, man.
It hurts your fucking soul.
It cuts into you.
You see it and you go, this poor fuck.
He doesn't even know.
He's just trapped in this horrible pattern.
And this person has become a drug dispenser.
A negative downer drug.
This person gives them a depressing drug every time they see them.
But also, man, aside from letting someone have a happy life and not trying to manipulate or control them into being stuck with you, the other thing is it's so much better for you to be with someone who really likes you.
Some savage is gonna come along and fuck her in a laundromat, okay?
That's gonna happen.
You can't.
Everyone needs to be extremely attracted to each other.
Everyone needs to be extremely, whether it's just attracted to each other's minds, which is personality, whether it's physical, whatever it is, there has to be a real...
A connection.
Because if there's not, if you don't have that, one of two things is happening.
Either you're not putting that out enough, you're not a dynamic enough human, Both with your consciousness or with your objectivity or with your love or with your affection or with your generosity.
His dad couldn't deal with his son just massively eclipsing him in every possible way as a human.
His dad was just a regular guy.
Who's Marvin Gaye?
Marvin Gaye's a motherfucking dick-slinging superstar with a voice that came from angels.
Okay?
And who are you?
Oh, you're the guy who fucked his mom.
Get in line, bitch.
You're just a normal dude.
You ain't nothing special compared to Marvin motherfucking Gaye.
You're a regular guy and you made a son that's a bitch!
Bad motherfucker!
You made a song that his songs, they play them without the words in elevators, and people sing along to the Muzak.
His fucking songs are so good that when you're in an elevator and a Muzak version of Let's Get It On comes on, you can hear him singing, Oh, let's get it on.
You can hear it.
You can hear it.
He's a bad motherfucker, dude.
He imprinted the consciousness, and this guy couldn't deal with it, so he shot his own son.
God's so beautiful, God is going to put him in heaven.
But not like a regular person who's born in the jungle of Brazil and is good his whole life and only does good for his tribe and his family and has great respect for the earth.
Like, the Catholic Church, you know how funny that is to, like, come up with a trick like that?
When you start realizing, like, wait a minute.
I can just write down on paper that people are going to an imaginary place forever, and they'll give me thousands and thousands of dollars in gold and diamonds.
They're willing to not wear condoms and fucking bring kids into the world that they didn't even want to have for that tooth fairy.
They're willing to do a lot of crazy shit for that tooth fairy.
And there's a wide spectrum of crazy, and it varies from...
Town to town, church cult to church cult.
I think there's something that's an actual...
I think there really is a...
I don't know what you call it, but I do think there's a super consciousness you can tune into that will give you some direction, and the directions usually don't be an asshole.
Well, that's why I was saying that the morality of the universe would tell you that you're not allowed to spray pepper spray in the face of kneeling children.
The morality of the universe would say these are peaceful people.
You have no right to do anything to harm them.
They have a legitimate gripe and concern.
Whether they're handling it the correct way is debatable, but the morality of the universe, the true knowledge of what is right and wrong, it's like instinctively, instantly you realize that's an evil task.
And if that was your little girl, that's your 18-year-old girl, idealistic, first year in college, and this asshole is spraying her in the face with pepper spray, you'd want to beat his brain flat.
If I saw that guy spray my baby in the face, I would not be able to help myself.
If there was cars in the way, if there was cops in the way, I would have tried physically to get my hands on him.
I would have to.
I wouldn't be able to stop myself.
It would be like a murderous, animal-like rampage.
You would feel it from the bottom of your DNA that you would have to stop this person from doing that.
Meanwhile, this guy's doing it because somebody wrote some shit down on a piece of paper.
That's a detachment, man.
That's a detachment from the things that you do and the impact those things have.
And you could say, followed by the word of the law, and you could say, well, if those fucking hippies weren't there, they wouldn't have a problem.
And while all these things are correct, that's not the real issue.
The real issue is there's a detachment from the things we do and the effect those things have.
And that detachment is due to a lack of sensitivity, which I think can be attributed to several things.
And a lot of it has contributed to awareness and our focus on awareness, whether it's through yoga, whether it's through meditation, whether it's through isolation tanks, whether it's through psychedelics, whether it's through long walks where you sit by yourself alone in the park and you do an audit of your day and an audit of your true, honest thoughts and try to be fucking real with yourself, man.
And don't bullshit yourself so you can sleep better at night and think that you're doing the right thing every time.
And all you would have to do is apply those ideas to life And everyone would be fine.
Everyone would be fine.
No one would ever start on just wars.
They would realize you can profit anyway.
There's always going to be assholes out there.
You can profit on fucking tanks, and you can profit on jets.
We need those.
Yeah, we do need those.
But we don't need that many, and we don't need them everywhere.
We don't need a military presence in over 100 different fucking countries.
We've gotten completely out of hand.
Those people making jets and making bombs and making guns, I'm 100% pro-gun.
I have guns.
Oh, me too.
And I think that you should be allowed to have guns.
I just think we're at a stage right now where people are starting to realize that the stuff that's written down on paper is not necessarily serving the human beings that it's supposed to represent.
And we just, because it's written down on paper and because a bunch of people say it's written down on paper, we are supposed to abide by it.
We're supposed to deal with it.
We're supposed to allow that cop to spray the chemical in the kid's face and not get beaten up and immediately thrown in jail like he should be, like your instincts would be, if any civilian did it.
And that's our real issue.
Our real issue is we are operating under an archaic society.
We're using an old shitty map that worked at a different kind of terrain.
The terrain has changed now.
We need some new maps.
People have got to come up with new maps.
You don't just get the fucking luxury of using an ancient, withered old map.
map, whatever the fuck the map is, whether the map is your Bible or whether the map is the current version of the Constitution with all the amendments or whether the map, whatever it is, it's time to start making new maps based on the fact that we're now And when you see things like this new bill that's passed that turns America into a battleground and empowers the military to come in and arrest civilians who are being disorderly and arrest anyone who is a threat and detain them, anyone who they deem a threat.
But see, that's why what has to happen is people need to start continuing to take like the action they're taking with Occupy Wall Street.
But we need a fucking super genius or a group of super geniuses or a collective of people to come up with a new map for how this shit should be working.
This is what I'm starting to think is going to happen.
I used to think that there's going to be some sort of a violent upheaval.
There's going to be real problems.
I think that there's going to be people on the Occupy side that are far too intelligent to be ignored and that eventually they're going to figure out some vulnerabilities to the system and then they're going to have some power.
And once they have some power, then people are going to talk and then they're going to have to work something out and change some laws and change some rules.
Because until there's some sort of a threat from the other side, you know, and it doesn't have to be a violent threat.
It could simply be some fucking computer geniuses who know how to rework everything, who know how to shut down the fucking internet, who know how to make things invalid and unfunctional.
It could be people who know how to manipulate money through the internet.
Who the fuck knows?
I mean, it's going to be deemed a terrorist act, whatever it is.
I mean, that's really what, by the Patriot Act, anything you're doing to attack the government now is like a terrorist act, right?
I bet me even suggesting that someone may try to do this makes you under suspicion.
You extrapolating and looking at history and you looking at human behavior and you looking at the situation knowing that it's going to escalate.
Well, what could happen?
I think someone's going to figure out a way to have some power over the occupiers.
But saying that, by saying that, it's almost like I'm cheerleading.
Like, I can become an enemy by saying that, which is amazing.
Or fucking people come out, you know, like the people who are looking under their car because they've got a flat tire, and they're like, hey, what's that fucking box there?
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