Bryan Callen recounts a psychedelic trip on Big Whiskey Mountain—hallucinations, a "devil" encounter, and a naked descent—while debunking 9/11 myths and oversimplified health studies like red wine’s cancer claims. He critiques systemic financial discrimination in 2008, where minorities faced loan denials despite equal qualifications, and warns of lobbyist-driven corruption eroding democracy, echoing Madison’s fears about wealthy factions hijacking representation. The episode blends absurdity with sharp critiques of power, greed, and the fragility of institutions. [Automatically generated summary]
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I also took a shit squatting and then as I was doing that naked, my buddy moved some branches pretending it was a bear and jumped up and started to run and that caused a problem.
And then I came back down the mountain, all scratched up, no clothes, and I kept stopping to eat blueberries.
It's so interesting to watch how people, like I was thinking about this the other day, how people basically as adults, like I would call it adulthood and what they call maturity is the slow acceptance of what you will never be.
That's kind of what it is.
So what happens is you see little girls dressed like princesses, right?
And that's their ideal.
They grow up with these ideals.
We stick these ideals in children.
Like, you're going to marry a prince, and he's going to be Prince Charming.
And that shit gets whittled away.
You start settling for simulation and simulation.
It's basically your life becomes, I'll take what I can get.
And until finally you're dating some guy with hair in his ears and a pot belly, well, at least he pays the fucking bills, which is what I like to get them, by the way.
I like to get them when they're just going through a divorce, had their heart broken two, three hundred times, they're 40, they work out way too much.
That anger and frustration is combined into this fucking, what creates like a freaky that I can really work with in a hotel room.
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The 39-year-old crazy ones starving for attention.
What was happening as I was sobering up, and because I'm such a freak, is I had read a lot about how when you can be on a mountain in the summer, a winter storm can brew up.
Right?
They can whip up.
You can get caught in hailstorms.
You can freeze to death, actually, sometimes.
And so I was like, I gotta get the...
And I'd read about K2. And I don't know if you ever read about climbing K2. It's one thing to climb Mount Everest.
It's quite another thing to climb K2. Really?
I believe there's only one side of K2 one can climb.
And for a while, I believe, and you can check this on Fact Check, one in four people wouldn't make it on K2. People died all the time because storms— One in four people wouldn't make it, like wouldn't survive?
Can you do Fact Check?
Because I believe that was the case for quite a while.
And so what happened was, it was the holy grail of mountains still is, because what happens is storms whip up really fucking fast, like really fast, and you die.
Yeah.
So what happened was I started thinking a storm might whip up and I suck in the cold.
I haven't watched the whole thing, but I watched a chunk of it.
People are just constantly trying to get me to see this thing.
It's one of those things where people email me once a day.
Dude, have you seen Zeitgeist moving forward?
I'm like, "All right." I saw the first Zeitgeist, and although I thought it was very moving, I also thought there was some stuff on 9/11 that I was like, "This is...
You're just...
You know, there was stuff about the Twin Towers.
Like, they couldn't have possibly fallen like that." And I'm like, "Listen, man, this is not real science.
You don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
To say this, to state that for sure that happened, I think is crazy.
Here's the only way to find out.
Build the same fucking thing, have another fucking plane fly into it, let's see if it falls down again.
If you actually want a really good debunking of that, Popular Mechanics got together a A whole bunch of mechanical engineering science called Debunking the 9-1-1 Myths.
And they talk about, for example, how jet fuel burns at a certain temperature.
And I believe it's 1600 degrees.
Iron melts at 900 degrees, especially that kind of iron.
So it made sense that the iron would start to melt and the building would crumble.
I was going to say, I didn't know you got your degree in mechanical engineering, my friend.
That's exactly, every time I hear somebody, people are full of medical advice as well.
I love this.
If you read a lot of stuff, for example, what people will tell you, there's a good TED lecture by this epidemiologist who's a scientist and actually does science, does the science on, for example, when they said that a glass of red wine a day can help you prevent breast cancer.
The problem with that statement that you read in the New York Times and everywhere else is that the actual experiment was they had cancer cells in a Petri dish.
They dropped red grape extract onto the cancer cells.
And there are different kinds of breast cancer, by the way, and cancer itself is an umbrella term for essentially the irregular division of cells, all different kinds of cancer.
We don't know why some kick on, some happen when you're a child, others when you're an adult.
There are different theories about it.
Some are environmental, some are genetic.
So, you know, and by the way...
When people say you've got to build your immune system and if you drink this, it'll prevent cancer.
In fact, I was reading that some cancers don't actually grow as a result of a stronger immune system because they are aligned with your immune system.
When your immune system is strong for whatever reason and cells start dividing in a healthy way, the unhealthy cells do as well.
Too many people are just too quick to just grab a hold of a yes or a no or this side or that side.
You've got to look at the whole thing.
The only thing that puzzles me about September 11th is that Tower 7 building.
And there's a lot of debate on that.
That's the one that the architects and engineers from 9-11 Truth have a problem with.
They don't know why that building collapsed like that.
And it looks like a controlled demolition.
It's really weird because I've seen a bunch of them.
It's very interesting because I've never seen a building fall into its base like that, like give out in uniform and come down a straight line.
But it doesn't mean that it can't happen.
You've got to be real careful about that.
It looks like a controlled demolition, and you hear that this Larry Silverstein guy had all this money invested in it, and if the buildings went down, he made billions of dollars.
You hear all this craziness online, but the real reality is, again, we don't know how a building like that performs until something like that happens.
And the other thing is nobody ever realizes that these are people, right?
So if you look at like – if you read like Bob Woodward's The War Room or you look at how like governments, the CIA, this defense intelligence, the National Security Agency, the White House, if there's a crisis, it's really interesting to see.
And if you look at these memoirs now that are coming out about the Bush era, it's really interesting to see how they do arrive at – At conclusions and decisions to take action.
It's fucking heated in those rooms.
And like human beings, everybody's got a different point of view.
Everybody has their own group of people they control.
And it comes down ultimately, everybody presents their case to the president, biting their lip, having testy arguments.
Not talking to each other, threatening to resign, like Condoleezza Rice did with Donald Rumsfeld, because she just didn't get along with him.
She thought he was condescending, etc.
And the president finally has to be like, guys, guys, can you, hey, let's not, stop fighting.
I'm the one who makes the decision, ultimately, present your ideas.
The idea that we actually let a guy like Bush really be president, to me, is way scarier than the idea that there's some massive conspiracy amongst globalists to control all the world's resources.
The fact that a guy really could be president, but they really don't have it locked down.
They obviously had Dick Cheney, and Dick Cheney was the guy who was the fucking CEO of Halliburton, a company that made untold billions of dollars reconstructing countries after we blow them the fuck up.
It's not a coincidence that this guy would be really fascinated with going to war.
I mean, he owned stock.
The president, President Bush, was a fucking character on a sitcom for us.
It is, but it isn't, because it's not helping anything.
It's like I have a joke about Occupy Wall Street, and I totally support the movement, but the joke is that those hippies are just going to start living there now.
What's going to happen is you're going to go there, everyone's just going to be shit all over the street, and you're going to have to just drive through that on the way to work.
I think we're on different sides of the equation, but Neil was saying you should be down there protesting.
And my problem with the protest movement, the Occupy Wall Street movement, is that...
I don't know that that's the only group to blame.
There are a lot of groups to blame.
The government, Wall Street, regular consumers who are buying houses knowing they couldn't afford them.
Nobody ever talks about that.
And so when you occupy Wall Street, what you're really talking about, Wall Street, of course, just a euphemism or just kind of a name for a very amorphous group of people because what you're talking about when you talk about Wall Street is the investment community.
That's what you're talking about.
Now, do you want to protest the investment community?
If so, let me ask some questions.
What aspect of the investment community?
Because I would remind everybody, they pay a lot in taxes.
They also produce a lot of wealth.
You wouldn't have startup companies without venture capital, for example.
You want to start taxing the capital gains tax?
See what happens to your venture capital.
See what happens to capital that is invested in businesses.
So I don't know the answers.
These are complicated issues.
And you start following that thread and start saying, well, let's occupy Wall Street.
Okay, okay.
There are some unscrupulous assholes on Wall Street.
There's no doubt.
There's no doubt.
But what are we going to do about it?
I believe, personally, That you had an incentive structure in place, an incentive structure, and a system with holes in it where smart people got together and said, hey, you know what?
I got to tell you, there are some very big legal loopholes here and we can make a lot of money.
You know why?
Because three other houses down the way are making a shitload of money.
So what are we doing, guys?
Because we're not going to be able to compete.
Here's another thing.
We may be out of a fucking job if we don't do this.
So when you're in that and you start to realize it, it's really an interesting development where you go, gee, what would I do in that situation as well?
It was so fucking murky.
And it seems to me what you want to fix is the incentive structure.
And there's a very good book that I'm about to read and I had two very big bankers who were in this and had lived through it and saw every bit, every detail.
And they said the book to read is The Big Short by Michael Lewis.
He is a journalist who is an outstanding first-class writer.
I read Liar's Poker.
He's a great writer.
I believe it's Michael Lewis is his name.
I might be wrong with the first name.
But the point is that he wrote The Big Short.
And that is renowned.
That is widely respected as the book and sort of the Bible on how this shit happened and what happened and essentially who's to blame himself.
But you start going into that blame game, it's really interesting.
It's really fucking interesting because there are a lot of people, and they're not just Republicans, they're not just libertarians, a lot of people can make a very strong case for things like the Equal Housing Lending Act, the kinds of laws that came out of government because it was very popular on the Republican and Democratic side to say, hey, I'm going to pass legislation that makes it easy for everyone to own a house.
That's the American way.
That's the American dream.
They did a study.
Listen to this.
It's really interesting.
The Federal Reserve Bank of Boston did a study.
They found that even if you're qualified for a loan, if you're a minority, if you're black or a Latino, and even if you're just as qualified as a white person, you're four times as likely to be turned down, turned down for that loan.
So if you're black or you're Latino, back in, I think this was in 1998, Six or whatever, I don't remember the date.
If you're black or Latino, you have the same credit as a white person, you're still four times as likely to be turned down for a loan.
My father, who was a banker, said, my father looked at me and he goes, not going to last, because I was going to buy a piece of property, get into real estate.
He goes, you know anything about real estate?
I go, no.
He goes, you know how to make people laugh, right?
I go, yeah.
He goes, stick to making people laugh, because you get into real estate, you'll lose all your money.
I watch these guys fight, and I was watching baseball the other day.
I'm watching the World Series.
And baseball, they're athletes.
They can hit a ball.
You've got to swing the bat perfectly.
You've got to throw.
You've got to field a ball.
And there's a lot of skill involved in baseball.
But when it comes to fighting and you're out there with gloves that are just tiny and somebody else is trying to knock your fucking head off and you don't know how to kick, punch, and wrestle.
You've got to realize that promotion and managing fighters and stuff, there's a lot of publicity involved.
Just keeping it in the press is a good thing.
Saying that Chael doesn't deserve it is a good thing.
Building up any sort of animosity is a good thing.
And then Chael's people say, Yes, he does deserve it.
Anderson's worried he's going to kick his ass.
Then you've got a thread going, man.
So you can't be a rube.
You've got to look at these things and go, listen, Ed Soares is a smart dude, and Anderson Silva's a goddamn genius, and Chael Sonnen is the greatest marketing mind that combat sports has ever known by a long shot.
When a guy's been humiliated a couple of times, and then he comes back and is a fucking badass, there's a different level of intensity that those guys have.
A guy's been humiliated, like a George St. Pierre, there's an intensity that he brings to the table where this is not going to fucking happen again.
That's also on the menu.
On the menu is, I'm going to kick your ass.
On the menu is, I'm going to force you to fight my fight.
But also on the menu is, that Matt Serra fight is not going to fucking happen again.
Right, I'm not getting caught by Anderson in a triangle.
The shoulder, I mean, look at all the different moves that the shoulder can do, and think about, you know, how loose the tissue has to be inside of there.
And if something goes wrong, if there's tears and soft tissue damage or worse, ligament rips and things that need you to go back in there and stitch everything up and put it together and possibly even have more than one surgery.
There's people that have shoulder injuries and it's nine, ten months.
There's always that debate about what's the perfect size, because when you're 260, you don't have the kind of explosive speed with your punches, usually.
And he outworks lightweights at the gym at AKA. AKA, American Kickboxing Academy in San Jose, one of the best gyms in the country.
Filled with killers.
You know, filled with John Fitch and Josh Koscheck and Mike Swick and all these fucking animals up there.
And this guy is outlasting them in conditioning drills.
That's unheard of.
You're talking about, like, Josh Thompson, like, those guys, that's like an elite, elite MMA athlete.
You know, like, as good a shape as you can get in, as athletic as you can get in, and to have this fucking freak heavyweight beating them in exercise drills is really kind of crazy, or at least getting close to them.
Heavyweights are traditionally way easier to tire out, and he just puts a pace on these guys so you can see them unjust, can't believe it's real.
They can't believe it's real.
Like, a perfect example, the Brock Lesnar fight was a good example.
That was a good example, but there's been a couple other fights earlier in his career where you just see him hit guys with this pace.
Big Ben Rothwell, that's a perfect fight.
He hit Ben Rothwell with this pace that was just ridiculous.
It was just ferocious.
Everything he did was perfect.
Every takedown was perfect.
Every side positioning was perfect.
Every hammer fist was perfect.
Every punch was perfect.
He just keeps going.
Six feet, six foot one, maybe something like that.
There's videos of him online, crazy deadlifts and all this strength lifting shit.
But the true test of that, whether or not you can perform with all that muscle on, really is when you get stuck under the bottom of a guy like Brock Lesnar.
That's the true test.
Because that big motherfucker will take you down and he'll be on top of you and you might be fucked, son.
So his technique as a wrestler, too, he's very technical.
Like, even though he's, like, he does, like, a lot of shit, like he chains...
He does it in a way that very few heavyweights do.
It's like the way he moves is like the way a lighter weight guy would wrestle.
And so he brings this really technical wrestling to it too.
So when Brock starts heaving and hoeing just a little, Kane's got underhooks, he's back up to his feet, and boom, and Kane's all of a sudden kickboxing with him, lighting him up.
He's got the worst case scenario for a guy like Brock.
He's got nasty stand-up, knocked out Nogueira in a ridiculous flurry in a way that no one's able to do it.
He's good, man.
His stand-up is good.
And he can take a shot.
He took two solid punches from Czech Congo that dropped him.
Same kind of punches that knocked Pat Berry unconscious.
It's definitely better than the way they used to do it.
Guys, the way they used to do it, you start eating slowly and then they would start slowly sipping water and then try to get up in the middle of the night and drink water and they would drink water and Pedialyte.
But now the smart way to do it is with an IV. But there's been some studies apparently that were done on soldiers.
I need to get a hold of this.
My friend Dustin told me about it.
And they were talking about how long it takes to rehydrate your cerebral spinal fluid and all that stuff.
Well, I think he can probably get up to 190 if he's eating whenever the fuck he wants and powerlifting and shit, but he's most certainly too big for 155, I think.
I mean, look, he's a beast, man.
Don't get me wrong.
If he catches you with a big shot, he'll put you away.
But I think he's so thick that, you know, for him, it might be better if he lifted less and just got a little bit more cardio into his system.
And I know he's got good cardio, don't get me wrong, but He doesn't have the same cardio that a guy like Edgar does.
And I think one of the reasons for it is a guy like Edgar has less body mass, period.
He has less oxygen that has to push through the muscles.
And I think, again, there's a point of diminishing returns.
Edgar is obviously not as strong as Grey Maynard.
Grey Maynard is way stronger than him.
He's way scarier a puncher, too.
He can hurt you with one of those early punches that he hit Edgar with.
Holy shit, dude.
His uppercut is nasty, dude.
Grey can punch.
But I think that's a mechanical thing, man.
I think he would be able to punch like a motherfucker no matter what.
I think he's just become a much better boxer over the course of the time we've seen him in the UFC. I don't think him losing a little bit of mass would hurt that.
I really don't.
I think he would benefit from just having a little less mass on his body.
But this is just me talking shit.
If he knocked out Frankie Edgar in the first round, I'd be saying, oh, he improved and he came back and he's one of the best of the division now.
Well, I had a concussion and my hands for like three months felt like I was holding a hot snowball.
And it would come back all the time.
I found that that's one of the effects of a severe concussion because I had a 40-minute fight with this guy named Pasquale, this French guy, and Boom Boom Mancini was watching.
It was at Street Sports and I didn't want to lose.
I was like, I'm not tapping in front of Boom Boom Mancini.
Right, but then I looked in the mirror, and I was looking at myself, and I went like this, and I said right in front of him, I go, then again, I do punch people for looking like this.
You see guys who are like, they walk into Intelligentsia Coffee, where they charge you $6 for a cup of coffee, and their hair is just must just the right way.
But what's crazy about these book bags is if you look at the reviews on Amazon or whatever, there's so many psychos that are like, I could fit all three cats.
When I think of the conversations I've had, the sincere conversations I've had with girls just to get laid, where my brow is knotted and I'm like, really?
But the point I was making is this, is that Chris's character looks at a girl, and for the whole episode, she's giving him a hard time and he feels guilty.
And he can't admit that he was just looking for a girl.
And I was saying the other day, I was like, look, the truth of the matter is, we're fucking genetically programmed to be that way.
So we have an honest conversation about what that struggle is for a guy, Yeah, but don't even say for a guy, because it's a struggle for a girl, too.
I'm just talking about when it does happen, instead of pretending it didn't or instead of saying that I don't feel that way, there is a dialogue to be had which is, yeah, you know what, that's the way.
When you get shit out in the open, it takes the edge off.
As long as you learn from your fuck-ups, you're better because of them.
I am unquestionably, I would not change a single thing about anything I've ever done ever.
I mean, I definitely feel bad for if I've ever hurting anyone's feelings at any point in time in my life.
That's the number one thing, if anything, I ever regret.
It's like, maybe I shouldn't have been so mean to that dude, or maybe I shouldn't have yelled at this chick, or maybe I shouldn't have, you know, maybe I should have like ate it before I... Or taking a look at where they're coming from, perspective.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Or instead of just saying, shut the fuck up, I don't want to hear you.
You have to be able to look back in your past at a moment where you fuck something up and feel uncomfortable about it, and that should provide you with a certain amount of humility and understanding.
We're a strange animal that's dealing with infinite variables.
And the only way to truly find a focused way through this path is to have accumulated a massive amount of experiences and forged positive information and game plans from these experiences and be able to move forward.
You cannot know it all right away from the get-go.
Some person pretended to be a girl and tricked you into kissing him and never even told you something that, for a lot of guys, would make them violent.
Okay, for you, but for a lot of guys, it's an experience that they don't want to have, and someone tricked them into doing it, and they could get violent.
And I don't justify it, but I'm saying a lot of guys, that would be their reaction.
I had two girlfriends for a long time that I had sex with 10 years after the fact.
They were just my two girls.
Love them.
Love them.
I had sex with those girls that we dated in college and then I dated them right after college and for the next 10 years, maybe longer, they were always a booty call.
Both of them were, you know, my girls for a long time.
They are down at a restaurant in New York City called Il Buco, which is a great restaurant, by the way.
And I get a call from one of them, which is essentially like, hey, Brian, it's such and such and such and such, and we're hanging out, and we really wish you were here, and we were talking about you, and we were talking, telling dirty stories, whatever they were saying.
And I couldn't call back fast enough.
I was like, where are you?
Like, where are the El Bucco?
I'm like, I'll be there.
I'll be there now.
I mean, I was literally like 20 minutes away and I got down there in five minutes.
I was at his hand at the cap.
I was like, drive faster!
Drive faster!
I get there.
Long story short, because I'm a team player, I call my best friend Jimmy Burke.
That, by the way, is always the code for fucking there's something about to go down.
It always involves pussy.
Get down here.
He goes, be right there.
He's there in two seconds.
We're drinking wine.
I'm fucking getting them all plied up, talking about it.
I can see the two of them, the two girls, are all over each other.
And I'm like, oh, you want to use me as a bridge to have an experience with each other.
How interesting.
My two old girlfriends, who subsequently asked me to have children with them, by the way, just to use my sperm, which was very flattering, but I had to say no.
But anyway.
So, okay.
So I'm like that.
Jimmy Burt goes, hey guys, let's go back to my...
I call him the maestro.
He goes, let's go back to my place.
Let's go back to my place.
I'll blow the fire.
Got some weed.
I'll make some fucking chocolate chip cookies.
How's that sound?
Weed?
Fireplace?
Chocolate chip cookies?
They're like...
Yeah, okay, sounds good.
We get to the place.
He goes to the kitchen to start whipping up chocolate chip cookies.
He's bringing out some weed.
He goes to the kitchen, brings out weed, brings out a joint.
By that time, I'm already naked on the bed with the girls.
I'm already naked.
And he's like, what the fuck is this?
This is fucking, fuck the weed!
This is fucking great!
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And I'm like, okay, I got my guy and one girl's man.
There was a restaurant that I stopped going to, and I stopped going to this restaurant because the last time I went was with you and Jimmy, and the fucking waiter kept interrupting Jimmy's stories with some new bullshit plate that they're bringing over with...
Some fucking description of where the olives came from and how the cheese is cured.
And Jimmy's telling some crazy fucking post-9-11 horror story about hearing the bodies hit the ground.
And this motherfucker comes over with a plate of cheese.
This cheese is brought to you from South America.
And it's a type of cheese that's with that yak milk.
it smells why is my dick hard why am I crying why god okay it's called why am I crying anyway so so so before I can even do anything Jimmy goes I'll fucking kiss him He goes, get over here, you fucking pussy.
I go to the gym.
He goes, you happy?
She goes, yeah.
So now I'm back to my girl.
I'm back to my girl.
And we're locked in and we're making out.
And all of a sudden I feel the other girl's hand around my ass.
She goes, you feel good, Brian?
I'm like, yeah, yeah, it feels fucking good.
All of a sudden I feel like, I'm not an ass play guy to be honest with you, but I feel like a finger going in my mouth.
My mud whistle, if you will.
If I can channel Jimmy Schubert, I'm really going at my mud whistle.
Luckily, I don't got a sewer pickle up there.
You know what I mean?
So, yeah.
So, I'm like, okay.
Oh, what the fuck?
She goes, does that feel good?
I go, I guess so.
You're a girl.
You know, it went in Rome.
I'm like, fuck off.
And I'm just so into this girl.
And then I feel what feels like a greyhound bus in my ass.
I know Scientology can shut down some shitty writers or some unknown people or some people that haven't been established by the media, but those guys have a voice, man.
You can't silence them.
You're going to make it way worse.
You start picking on those guys, you're going to make it way worse.
Did I tell you what, Daniel Day-Lewis, there's a great interview where he said, Daniel Day-Lewis said the funniest thing, because I think he's an incredible actor, right?
And he goes, he goes, he said, you know, you guys want to know about my process?
He said, you know, if I stuck flowers up my jack and did cartwheels, it wouldn't really matter.
The bottom line is this.
I sit around all day wearing somebody else's clothing, having somebody else's thoughts, saying somebody else's words, and trying to believe all of it, basically because I am, at heart, a boring middle-class Englishman.
I think he said because I'm ashamed of being basically a boring middle-class Englishman.
It was a great answer because he looked at the absurdity.
Christian Bale, they were like, why do you lose weight so much?
He goes, because I'm a man and I put makeup on and I make believe for a living and I got to make it feel like real work.
That guy came close to dying when he did The Machinist.
That's ridiculous.
I've never seen a transformation like that.
A lot of people, I remember back in the day when people were first starting to do that, Robert De Niro was one of the first guys to put on weight for a movie for Raging Bull.
And I was like, wow, he really got fat for that movie.
That's crazy.
And I read about his diet.
He was just eating like a regular Italian, just fucking meatballs and pasta all day.
And everybody was like, wow, that's amazing.
But what Christian Bale did was a thousand times harder.
If you're operating on that level of frequency where you need to really believe that you're in this scene and some asshole keeps walking around tweaking things in your line of sight that's not supposed to be there, it's maddening.
When you find out how much of it is based on reality, how terrifying it is, how much power the tobacco companies have.
And that's sort of like what's going on.
My thoughts about this whole Occupy Wall Street thing, when you look at banks and hedge fund companies and all this corruption and the financial situation that we have right now, you look at it and you're like, man, these people have been getting away with so much for so long.
It's like telling them that everything has to be fair now.
They're like...
Fuck you!
I didn't get into this to be fair.
I got into this because I met my friend Tim at school and he was two years ahead of me and he brought me out in a limo with coke and hookers and they said, listen bro, we're trading stocks, we're shorting things, we're making millions, we got this fucking town wired.
And you're like, um, I want in and then you all get together in the 80s Gordon Gekko style and start fucking raping the financial system.
That's why they're there in the first place.
They're there to make ass-fuck tons of money through every possible loophole.
Did you read about one of the CEO's wives who got some of the government bailout money to start a new business, like $250 million in loans?
From some fucking guy who's got like billions of dollars!
It's amazing!
His wife, he had his wife do it through some snazzy loophole that they engineered into the system.
Well, look, the President of the United States, when you know how much they own shit, when the President of the United States says, ladies and gentlemen, poor suffering people of our country, I am going to take...
Billions of dollars of your tax money and I'm going to give it to these cunts that ruin these banks.
And I'm real sorry about this, but they get bonuses.
And their bonuses are going to be roughly half of what you're going to make in your entire life.
It's going to be half a million dollars is what we're going to put a cap on it.
That's the cap he was trying to put on it.
He was like, we're going to put a half a million dollar cap.
There's no money.
Your bank is done.
You can't give a bonus if there's no money.
You don't have a bank anymore.
The reason why you have a bank is because you took our fucking taxes and you threw it back into your system and now everything's spinning and you want to shit out bonuses.
What kind of contract do you have where you have a bonus when the bank breaks?
But what message are they telling us when the president tells all the poor people of this country where the middle class is falling apart, poverty is an all-time level, 47% of all of Detroit's illiterate, I mean literally the infrastructure, everything's falling apart.
And he's like, I'm going to limit it to a half a million dollars.
Well, what banks will say is when you give that money, when you give that TARP money to a bank, and they're going to use it for various things, they're using it to operate their business, to keep their business afloat.
And the biggest problem was that these banks came to someone like Obama.
It may be, but when you have a situation where most economists are saying to the president, look, the central nervous system of this economy is going to collapse if you don't I'm not saying this is good.
So there was kind of like this element around that area that's like, hey, there's a new apartment complex opening up for the homeless people type thing.
Well, obviously, we had Kevin Pereira from Attack of the Show on here the other day, and we were talking about agent provocateurs, government people who are sent in to break up, calm protests, and turn them into violent protests so they can bring them in and fucking arrest everybody.
I've been impressed with how, when I hear the Occupy Wall Street people, a lot of them are people who are actually educated, who just can't find a job, and are trying to find the answers themselves.
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That wasn't really the case as much as I thought it would be.
I sat there and watched this rap concert for a while where people were handing off the mic and this homeless guy was, like, looking guy was, like, bouncing, like...
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Pop cans on his head while rapping.
I was like, wow, you don't see this every day, you know?
So it was like the entertainment value is pretty sweet.
And then they took me to the media event where they do all the live interviews and all the media stuff and it's all like generators and solar collectors And then there's tons of computers.
And then this girl just out of nowhere comes up to my friend C and was like, hey, I want to donate these laptops.
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And gave her like three laptops.
And I was like, wow, this is really badass.
I need to start occupying Burbank outside of Best Buy or something, you know, and get some shit.
Okay, but again, we're talking about the Los Angeles one.
The Los Angeles one is a different animal than the New York one.
The New York one, man, the videos of the New York one, they're really shocking.
And here's what's really crazy.
Wall Street has, not only have they donated $4.6 million to the police, but they also started hiring the police.
It's something that most people don't know.
You can hire a police officer for roughly $37 an hour.
So all these Wall Street firms are hiring tons of cops, off-duty cops, to do paid work there, and they work as a police officer with a real badge and a real gun and a real ability to arrest, but they're working for the bank!
So it's a loophole where these are police officers, but they are doing the bidding of the bank.
They're working for the bank.
They're not like the bank says, hey, police officers, can you organize your own police presence around this area and put as many police officers as you see fit and I guess you guys work for the state and maybe we'll throw in a picnic for you and we'll help generate some money to pay for all this extra revenue that's going to cost you.
I think the biggest threat facing all of us as far as this whole situation talking about this, I think the real enemy is that we are slowly or maybe very quickly losing our representative government.
And what I mean by that is that this government, and James Madison warned about this.
He said the one thing you have to be careful of in a democracy like this is special interests.
The Constitution says you are allowed to petition your government.
That's a constitutional right.
It should be a constitutional right.
The problem is that our country now is being run by small bands of very energetic, well-financed fanatics.
And when you are a representative in the House of Representatives, if you are a congressman, if you are even a senator, but especially a congressman, you don't do a goddamn thing unless you check with that lobby, unless you check with the people that finance Your campaign.
And the people that have real power in Washington are fundraisers and lobbying groups.
Now, James Madison said what's going to happen is these lobbyists will offset each other with their different, and it'll be competing interests and stuff.
It hasn't happened.
In fact, what seems to be happening is that some of these groups have so much fucking money.
And if you look at Potomac, where they all live, or just Washington area, that is the highest per capita income in the country.