Sept. 28, 2011 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Podcast. | |
| Check it out. | ||
| The Joe Rogan Experience. | ||
| Train by day. | ||
| Joe Rogan Podcast by night. | ||
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All day. | |
| What's up, John Strickland? | ||
| What's happening? | ||
| We made it happen. | ||
| I made it, bro. | ||
|
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What's up? | |
| I'm finally pseudo-famous enough to be on the Rogan Podcast. | ||
| Let's go. | ||
| You're pretty famous after Saturday night. | ||
| Hey, how's your eye? | ||
| Still pretty red. | ||
| The guy was trying to fucking salute his Fuhrer, bro. | ||
| Fucking straight to the eye. | ||
| He's Russian. | ||
| He can't say that. | ||
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He only moved to Germany when he was 15. Well, fuck, I don't know, man. | |
| Fucking life's weird, dude. | ||
| It's fucking, is he Muslim? | ||
| We all know how that goes. | ||
| Oh, fuck, I'm going to get canceled. | ||
| He's just joking. | ||
| Can't we just joke around, folks? | ||
| Isn't this America? | ||
| That was a great fight. | ||
| It was a really, really good fight. | ||
| And it was really interesting, too, because that guy is so used to blowing people out in the first round. | ||
| He came out so hard in that first round. | ||
| And it was very interesting. | ||
| You have a very interesting style. | ||
| There's no one like you. | ||
| Stand straight up. | ||
| Even the way you hold your hands is different than everybody else. | ||
| It's more like boxing. | ||
| I like to box. | ||
| Yeah, no, it's funny. | ||
| Like, when he was throwing kicks, he was kind of like giggling and laughing a couple times when he hit me in the teeth and once or twice knocked the wind out of me in my mind. | ||
| I'm like, you fucking pussy. | ||
| Like, you've ever been in a 25-minute fight before, sir? | ||
| Like, we'll see how this adds up. | ||
| Yeah, that's the thing, right? | ||
| It's like people need to understand that. | ||
| Like, that if you're sprinting in the beginning, you can't do that for very long. | ||
| Well, he broke quick. | ||
| I mean, he... | ||
| Three minutes in. | ||
| I was shocked how fast he broke. | ||
| And I'll tell you when I knew he broke. | ||
| After he took me down, there was a moment where he was on my back. | ||
| I'm like, fuck, this kind of sucks. | ||
| I was thinking, like, there was a moment, I'm like, oh, this kind of sucks. | ||
| Well, we know what to do. | ||
| Get to a hip, get your way up, break the hands. | ||
| But whenever I broke his grip and he let go, it was, like, soft. | ||
| It was, like, delicate. | ||
| Like, he broke, like, his, like, delicate. | ||
| I think I hit him. | ||
| At that moment, I was like, what the fuck, dude? | ||
| So he's saving energy. | ||
| He realized it was falling. | ||
| No, he quit. | ||
| It wasn't that he was saving. | ||
| He broke. | ||
| So when you're fighting you guys, wrestling's fucking hard. | ||
| Wrestling's fucking difficult. | ||
| And you have to make the juice worth the squeeze. | ||
| So if you take me down, and you're on my back, you gotta hold that position... | ||
| loose grip for as long as you can. | ||
| Maybe knee me in the back of the thigh, hit me in the head. | ||
| If you could hold me there for 30 seconds and do light damage, that's 30 seconds of a round you won. | ||
| And the fact that he didn't even attempt to do it, it was like, oh man, you're done. | ||
| You're fucking done. | ||
| I was watching it at home and I noticed like at the three minute mark, you know, there's a thing that you could tell, especially when you've seen so many fights, where you see a guy in the beginning and you see like how his body moves and then you see a diminishment. | ||
| And I saw, at three minutes, I saw the feet were heavier, the movement was different. | ||
| He still looked good, but I was like, oh, he's already feeling it three minutes in. | ||
| Well, you know, threw me off. | ||
| He fought my buddy Saadi Sai. | ||
| And, dude, Saadi Sai's a fucking savage. | ||
| Like, he's a PFL champ. | ||
| The fucking guy could strike. | ||
| And he wrestled hard against Saadi for, like, you know, hard three rounds. | ||
| So I went in there thinking, oh, this guy has, like, a tank. | ||
| I watched him wrestle with my friend. | ||
| Yeah, it was shocking, man. | ||
| But, you know... | ||
| Well, he's only had two UFC fights. | ||
| He had that one fight, was it in France? | ||
| Yeah, against, like, Dustin. | ||
| But Dustin's a fucking can, dude. | ||
| Like, he should not be in the UFC... Again, I like Dustin. | ||
| He's a fucking yogi, dude. | ||
| He does more yoga than training. | ||
| He came to Vegas. | ||
| I think I broke his nose in the first minute, and then he came to Extreme. | ||
| I pretty much told Chris Curtis, I'm like, Curtis, if you let Dustin walk out of this fucking round, I will respect you less as a man. | ||
| You know, like, you're not part of our fucking team. | ||
| Like, if you let him have any success with you, dude, like, I will respect you less as a man. | ||
| How did Dustin get in the UFC? So it's kind of, I don't know who he fought, but he picked up a guy, or a guy picked him up and slammed him and broke his shoulder. | ||
| So his hype train was fighting a guy who, like, doesn't belong here. | ||
| So the guy broke his shoulder in the slam? | ||
| Yeah, so now it's like, oh, Dustin slammed him or something happened, and then, like, that's how he got signed. | ||
| Yeah, Dustin's a fucking can. | ||
| You know, he's a fucking defector, bro. | ||
| He's an American living in Germany. | ||
| You can't respect that fucking guy. | ||
| Oh, how dare he. | ||
| You're a fucking defector, bro. | ||
| Sorry, Dustin. | ||
| I don't even know what country you represent, you motherfucker. | ||
| I do not agree with the things Mr. Tricklin is saying, Dustin. | ||
| But I do agree that there's something about those guys that are used to taking guys out in the first round. | ||
| There's something about those guys. | ||
| A lot of these daggy Muslim dudes, they're bullies, bro. | ||
| They're fucking like... | ||
| You know, that fucking Ali, that fucking cunt, the manager. | ||
| I mean, I'm probably going to rub some people the wrong way, but fuck him. | ||
| You know, I'm going to see him. | ||
| We're going to go fighting after I say that. | ||
| He's like, did you hear what Sean said about me? | ||
| I'm like, yeah, you're a fucking cunt, dude. | ||
| I like how he did the accent. | ||
| Yeah, he's a fucking cunt. | ||
| So, like, this fucking cunt, Ali, good thing. | ||
| I mean, I don't give a fuck. | ||
| He comes to the gym. | ||
| He watches me spar Marvin Vittori, right? | ||
| And then we spar Marvin Tori. | ||
| I don't give a fuck, dude. | ||
| Marvin's a friend of mine. | ||
| I'm trying to help him. | ||
| And then fucking three weeks later, you pull out this fucking guy to fight me. | ||
| And then you start betting a prayer that he's going to beat me. | ||
| Like, you fucking rat, dude. | ||
| You come watch me spar, and you pull this fucking guy out of your hat, and you go bet Alex he's going to beat me. | ||
| Isn't that standard, though? | ||
| I mean, I don't know, dude. | ||
| I don't think managers should be in the gym. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| Yeah, interesting. | ||
| But don't you think they have to kind of get a bead on how guys look and what they're doing? | ||
| Yeah, but then it's rough, dude, when you watch me spar. | ||
| And then you're handling the guy. | ||
| And then you're handling a guy. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| That's a rough one, dude. | ||
| Yeah, that's tricky. | ||
| Well, that's why, you know, like elite gyms have closed door sessions. | ||
| Yeah, as it should be. | ||
| You shouldn't fucking be able to go watch guys train. | ||
| And again, I always tell guys like my opponents, like, you want to come watch me train? | ||
| Come watch me train. | ||
| Bring your best sparring partner and come watch me train. | ||
| Well, your style is pretty much the same in every fight. | ||
| It's like a steady forward marching and you're just very good at energy conservation. | ||
| You're just very good at knowing when to sprint. | ||
| Well, I mean, like, three weeks prior to the fight, me and my other buddy named Robin Shafar, up-and-coming boxer. | ||
| Well, he's, you know, boxing is the most shady, shady business there is in the fucking world. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Makes UFC look like... | ||
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Like higher education. | |
| Yeah, boxing, you guys, is corrupt. | ||
| So he's about 16-0. | ||
| And the guy could box, man. | ||
| I've seen him put work on UFC fighters. | ||
| Like, I've seen him spar, like... | ||
| Bellator champions. | ||
| The guy does work. | ||
| So we did like a no time limit, 40 minute boxing, just whoever quits. | ||
| Oh, Jesus Christ. | ||
| Just because we're just bored, you know? | ||
| The CTE special. | ||
| Oh, fuck yeah, dude. | ||
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Fuck yeah. | |
| So it's kind of funny. | ||
| He was actually going through some like personal shit and he beat me. | ||
| He beat me that day. | ||
| But like I was hitting him. | ||
| I was like, dude, you just like, there's something like, there's something with you right now after we get done boxing for like 40, 45 minutes. | ||
| He starts telling me his personal issues. | ||
| I'm like, oh, fuck yeah, dude, you were ready to die today. | ||
| Like, that makes sense. | ||
| I feel... | ||
| I'm about to go for a hike with my girlfriend, bro. | ||
| You're contemplating fucking life here. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, you win, dude. | ||
| You fucking win. | ||
| That's like when Buster Douglas fought Tyson. | ||
| You know, Buster Douglas' mom died. | ||
| And Buster Douglas had always been, like, that really talented guy with a wicked jab who just didn't apply himself, like many really talented guys. | ||
| And then for that camp, he just went fucking full in. | ||
| Yeah, some guys, some guys, even when they have that, like... | ||
| I mean, fuck, even walking, even sometimes me when I walk out, like, I gotta tell myself, like, dude, you are a fucking loser. | ||
| Like, you are a fucking, you don't belong here. | ||
| Like, just go in there and kill this motherfucker. | ||
| You know, like, I always joked, I always had, like, I had a teacher tell me in, like, 70th grade, one of the few years I went to school, I think it was, like, her name was, like, Miss Wajda, I don't know, history or some shit. | ||
| She looked at me, she said, Sean... | ||
| You're the reason why they build prisons. | ||
| Oh, Jesus Christ. | ||
| You're a little kid. | ||
| Can you imagine that? | ||
| Nah, dude, but she fucking nailed the fucking head, dude. | ||
| Like, I was a fucking shitbag, you know? | ||
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Right. | |
| But shitbags can grow up and become actual men. | ||
| It's totally possible to dismiss a kid at that early an age. | ||
| No, dude, but life is strange, man. | ||
| Like, they do very good at isolating shitty people. | ||
| So, I mean, like, when I was in elementary school, I was homeschooled in, like, third, fourth grade. | ||
| Until, like, you know, seventh grade, I went back to school. | ||
| And then they spotted me right at the back. | ||
| Like, oh, this guy's a problem. | ||
| He's a shitbag. | ||
| Like, and so they isolate you. | ||
| They put you in, like, a school where you start two hours later and you end an hour early because they got to isolate you. | ||
| High school, same shit. | ||
| Went to a continuation school. | ||
| So society, like, they do well at saying, hey, this kid is going to be a problem. | ||
| We just got to, like, he's, like, cancer. | ||
| We just can't let him infect other people. | ||
| Let's fucking put him away. | ||
| And then you go, and then you get older and you just go to jail. | ||
| Same shit. | ||
| But it's funny that those kids, a lot of those kids, they can do things. | ||
| They just need a direction. | ||
| They need something. | ||
| And martial arts is the best thing for those kids. | ||
| Every one of them. | ||
| When people say, what's the best thing about bullies? | ||
| Or best thing, rather, to deal with bullies. | ||
| I'm like, teach them how to fight. | ||
| You teach bullies how to fight, they're not going to want to be beating people up. | ||
| If you teach them how to train with real people, they're not going to be doing that. | ||
| Man, I always say MMA. Even soldiers with PTSD, I have a little bit growing up. | ||
| I didn't even know what the fuck... | ||
| I always thought... | ||
| It sounds fucked up, but I've always... | ||
| When you hear, like, soldiers talking about PTSD, I'm like, you fucking pussies. | ||
| Like, this is how I was when I was a kid. | ||
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Right. | |
| Like, well, you know, at 20 years old, like, you know, I can't go in public or I can't sleep at night. | ||
| I'm like, what the fuck's wrong with you, fucking pussy? | ||
| Like, give me a gun. | ||
| I'll fucking shoot some in the fucking head right now. | ||
| I don't give a fuck. | ||
| But then I realized that, like, me, I grew up so fucked up that... | ||
| Right. | ||
| fuck the high school prom queen going to parties. | ||
| And all of a sudden you turn 24 and then like the veil was lifted and you're like, who the fuck am I? | ||
| So like once I kind of realized that I had a lot more respect for him, but you know what I was going with that is like training, man. | ||
| If you guys, if you guys have some fucked up issues, some demons, man, like train, And a lot of people that train are fucked up. | ||
| So it's like you have this good, like, brother-ship, this bond. | ||
| Yes, yes. | ||
| Yeah, it's fucking did me wonders. | ||
| Oh, man, me too. | ||
| So many people I know, too. | ||
| There's so many, like, lost people who are some of the most exceptional people that I know because they went through that. | ||
| I remember the first time in my life that I ever felt happiness. | ||
| Like, even when I think about it, it makes my eyes water. | ||
| I was, like, 14 years old, you know, I was just a fucking fuck-up loser, man. | ||
| And my mom brought me to an MMA gym and I got the shit kicked out of me. | ||
| Just fucking, like, got the bloody fucking nose. | ||
| You know Paul Herrera? | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So Paul Herrera used to have a gym, Empire MMA. The headhunter. | ||
| But he never trained. | ||
| Like, he was never there. | ||
| He was always in the business trying to fucking peddle, you know, fucking juice or something. | ||
| So it would just be me and, like, probably 14 to 21-year-old, we'd just be in the cage with four-ounce gloves fighting. | ||
| So, the first day I went there, I mean, fucking bloody nose. | ||
| I was thinking of Paul Bluntello. | ||
| Paul Herrera was the guy who fought Big Daddy Goodrich. | ||
| Yeah, he was a little fucking guy. | ||
| Yeah, the elbows. | ||
| Oh, Jesus. | ||
| With the fireman's carry? | ||
| Yeah, so, fucking, the first day I trained there, man, I mean, I got the shit kicked out. | ||
| I mean, I was so happy. | ||
| I remember walking out, like... | ||
| Wow, this is what it feels like to be happy. | ||
| Like, I've never fucking felt this, you know? | ||
| You got it all out of your body. | ||
| Yeah, and I was like, fuck, I'm addicted. | ||
| I mean, even going into that, dude, I was like 14, 15. I had like crazy racist views. | ||
| I mean, I was like a little fucking Hitler youth, which is funny. | ||
| I make fun of a boost, but like, let's shit you not, dude. | ||
| Like, I was like... | ||
| I was on a fucked up path. | ||
| Even like, you know, I always like wearing white shirts and boots and jeans. | ||
| I stopped wearing this. | ||
| I used to wear this. | ||
| This is all I wore when I was a kid. | ||
| But I stopped wearing it once I started training because I thought it looked too much like a white supremacist. | ||
| So I was like, I can't wear this shit anymore. | ||
| A white shirt? | ||
| Well, because you wear your white shirt, your boot. | ||
| You ever seen American History X? Oh, okay. | ||
| So it's like the standard, you look like a white supremacist. | ||
| And I loved that shit. | ||
| When I was a kid, I loved that shit. | ||
| That's how I wanted it. | ||
| I wanted to look like a piece of shit white supremacist. | ||
| So when I started training, I was like, oh, dude, you were lost. | ||
| That's not who you are. | ||
| That's not what you believe. | ||
| I went away from it. | ||
| I grew my hair out fucking super long, got the name Tarzan. | ||
| I didn't dress like that. | ||
| And now as an adult, I'm comfortable with who I am. | ||
| I'm not a racist. | ||
| I love everybody. | ||
| Now I can go back to my roots of being just a white trash motherfucker. | ||
| It's nice, man. | ||
| I've really accepted who I am, you know? | ||
| Well, it's so interesting to watch people go through these changes in life, in these trials through adversity, and become like... | ||
| A very interesting person at the end of it. | ||
| I know you say a lot of outrageous shit, and it's very funny, but you also say some very good shit. | ||
| This speech that you gave when you were talking about America, that speech, the post-fight press conference speech, It's a fucking great speech. | ||
| Well, you know what it is, man? | ||
| I am white trash. | ||
| Like, what I mean by that is, like, I am the future of America. | ||
| So, like, both my parents worked. | ||
| You know, my dad's piece of shit, but, you know, he's fucking in hell probably right now. | ||
| But both my parents worked. | ||
| They made good money, but we were poor. | ||
| We were poor because after the cigarettes, the bars, and the fast food, we were fucking poor. | ||
| I mean, like... | ||
| You know, we had like fucking, I can't tell you, you'd find a piece of paper and you wrinkled up, you used it as fucking toilet paper. | ||
| You know, every time I wipe my ass with a piece of fucking paper you get laying around. | ||
| But this is like, it's like this unholy alliance that corporations are doing to America. | ||
| They want women working, they want lower wages, and they want more consumerism. | ||
| And it's like, I don't mean it like, I'm not sexist, like, oh, put women back in the kitchen, you know, they suck. | ||
| No, I love fucking women, you know. | ||
| Take off the burka, wear a fucking bikini, and huzzah. | ||
| But... | ||
| But you know what I'm saying? | ||
| But we're truly in a weird time to where corporations are eroding values of America. | ||
| Well, they act within their best interests. | ||
| Their best interests is to keep people, consumers, and make sure that people just pay attention only to stupid shit. | ||
| You have Walmart in your phone now. | ||
| I mean, even me, I'm to blame. | ||
| There's some times, you guys, where I'm like, maybe I'm a little depressed, I don't know, in a bad mood. | ||
| I'm like, I'm going to go on Amazon. | ||
| Let's see what the fucking Amazon fairy is recommending me today. | ||
| Maybe I could find something that will give me a little serotonin boost. | ||
| Find some happiness in a one-click. | ||
| Yeah, and then on top of that, now we go full circle, you have two parents working, and I'm going mostly on the West Coast. | ||
| You have shitty fucking kids, dude. | ||
| Las Vegas, graduation rates less than 50%, high school dropout, no GED, I'm not one to talk. | ||
| But how do you raise a family, a successful family, when your kids are being raised by the system? | ||
| Right. | ||
| By fucking TikTok. | ||
| After my fight, I had the doctor, you know, good guy, the doctor at UFC. He comes up to me, he's like, hey, why are you talking bad about Las Vegas? | ||
| I'm like, well, Dr. John, whatever your name is, Dr. Equal Dude. | ||
| What school do your kids go to? | ||
| And he just, like, gets a big, like, smirk. | ||
| I'm like, yeah, I'm sure you're paying, like, 50 plus a year to educate your kids. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So again, man, where's the reset button? | ||
| Maybe there is no reset button. | ||
| I think the reset button is teaching people that there's things that you can do in life that can transform you. | ||
| And I think, as weird as that sounds, a lot of people learn that through watching people like you evolve through fighting. | ||
| Because it's the most difficult thing you can do outside of war, and being a cop, and being a fireman. | ||
| It's the most difficult physical pursuit that a person can get involved with for a living. | ||
| But again, we're talking on such a deeper fundamental level. | ||
| If you have no belief, like we could say America's becoming atheist. | ||
| Like we could say that. | ||
| If you have no belief, if you have no moral right, no wrong, and you're not taught this from like a stable family and you're being raised, I mean like literally America's becoming like communist China where like We're letting our school system dictate values and beliefs. | ||
| We're letting the system tell you what your kids are. | ||
| And again, I'm agnostic, so I'm not telling everybody to go find Jesus, you know? | ||
| If you're going to find somebody, just let it be fucking Jesus, right? | ||
| But, I mean, how do you fix a moral decay of a society when that's just where we're going? | ||
| You got TikTok, man. | ||
| Even fucking Communist China will mitigate what shows on TikTok, but they give us utter fucking filth. | ||
| But it's just, I know exactly what you're saying. | ||
| And, you know, I went through the public school system, but I did it in the 1980s. | ||
| That's very different. | ||
| It's getting worse. | ||
| Yeah, it's a lot worse now. | ||
| But, I mean, how do you, like, again, like, if you were, you know, if you were God Joe Rogan, how do you fix this? | ||
| You gotta pump a lot of money into inner cities. | ||
| You gotta figure out a way to make programs and there's places in this country that for decades and decades have been filled with crime. | ||
| Gang violence and drug addiction and that's all they know and that's that's the standard of their community And that's what you grow up with and that's what you see and if we don't fix that the odds of those people coming out of there I mean there's a few that come out of there that become you know whether they're artists or Athletes or whatever it is they find a way through they figure it out, | ||
| but they're the rare ones okay, they're the rare ones which we got to do is create Systems where you have opportunity for kids and also mitigate the crime and mitigate the violence and whatever the fuck has to be done. | ||
| Look, if they can dump billions of dollars into Ukraine, if they could dump billions of dollars into, I mean, there's so many different things that they pump money into, but they've never pumped any money into Baltimore. | ||
| They never pumped any money into Detroit. | ||
| Like, try to figure out a way, like, if you can, like, think about, like, what Halliburton did during the Iraq War. | ||
| They got these no-bid contracts where Cheney was the fucking CEO of Halbert, and he becomes the vice president of the United States, and then the company he worked for gets these no-bid contracts to rebuild shit we blow up. | ||
| Which is wild, but there's profit in that, right? | ||
| So what about figuring out a way to funnel that profit into fixing inner cities? | ||
| If we have less losers, we have a better America. | ||
| And if you give people more opportunity, you have less losers. | ||
| You know, so even let's go on the smallest scale of sex. | ||
| How old are you, Joe? | ||
| 55. When was the first time you started watching porn? | ||
| Can I ask that question? | ||
| Yeah, VHS tapes came out when I was like 15 or 16. Okay, so my brother is a few years older than me, so he remembers things that I don't, but he'll tell me them. | ||
| I'm like, oh shit. | ||
| I forgot about that. | ||
| So I was watching porn in like early elementary school, like first grade and second grade, like because we had like a communal porn box. | ||
| Oh yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like my dad, my dad, my dad had this like, like an old school water heater box just stacked with fucking porn, right? | ||
| You kids don't know about this, but we had like the communal VCR, so like you would go to watch Aladdin, you know, and all of a sudden like Buttfuckers 29 is on the fucking TV. So I started watching porn when I was like, I don't know, I was jerking off to the fucking third grade, my fucking third grade teacher. | ||
| But I was surrounded by that, right? | ||
| So already I'm at this moral decay. | ||
| And I was the odd one. | ||
| I was the odd one, man. | ||
| I had to go fucking find the porn. | ||
| I had to go fucking... | ||
| My brother always jokes that when he would take my dad's porn tape out of the VCR, he would always have to rewind it to where he started so no one knew he was watching porn. | ||
| But then he jokes, he's like, oh man, I always know where my dad's coming now. | ||
| You know the spot? | ||
| When you come, you just shut the fucking thing off. | ||
| Oh, that's gross. | ||
| But so, yeah, right? | ||
| Yeah, dude, my dad was fucking... | ||
| I'm surprised I'm a lot more fucked up. | ||
| But, you know, so what I'm saying... | ||
| Is he alive now? | ||
| No, he died of cancer. | ||
| It's actually fucking... | ||
| I'll tell you. | ||
| But it's kind of funny. | ||
| Like, so I'm an oddity. | ||
| I'm an oddity. | ||
| I'm jerking off. | ||
| I'm a little fucking kid, you know? | ||
| I'm an oddity. | ||
| Like, I'm fucking violent. | ||
| But now, dude, you give a little kid a cell phone, and you have two parents working, next thing you know, I mean, you fucking go on Instagram, you got titties in your face. | ||
| Like, now we're, like, hyper-sexualizing kids, and I think that's also a big moral decay. | ||
| Because the moment you become hyper-sexualized, and I can't stop thinking about fucking pussy and dick, like, it starts fucking your brain up at such a young age. | ||
| And it's a very unusual way to give it to kids where they have instant access to watching porn on their phone all day long. | ||
| And we have no morals. | ||
| There's no reason not to be a shitty person these days. | ||
| You ain't going to heaven. | ||
| Just fucking go fucking fuck the chick. | ||
| Come in her. | ||
| You don't gotta raise your fucking kid. | ||
| So I think one of the best things we can do as a society is Mitigate. | ||
| Mitigate sex. | ||
| Because that is, like, the gateway to, like, that's why we want to make money, that's why kids want to sell drugs, that's why kids want to go fucking party. | ||
| There is no fucking pussy. | ||
| Like, you know, no one fucking, like, no one, if, like, if there is no fucking pussy, no one's going to a party. | ||
| Why do I want to go to a party and drink? | ||
| I'm going to go to get fucking pussy, you know? | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I always joke, I say no one shoots up a school because they have too much fucking pussy. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| But there are some good things about it. | ||
| There are some good things about it. | ||
| Oh, for sure. | ||
| There's good things about it, but it is weird when it's like hyper sexualizing kids. | ||
| It's not good. | ||
| And then like you go and you see fucking kids these days, like the shit they wear, like fucking, dude, put some fucking clothes on. | ||
| You fucking like 16, your fucking titties are out. | ||
| Well, they're being told that that's what gets them attention. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| You know, and they're being, they see it all the time on Instagram when a girl has like 5 million followers and every photo is a picture of her ass. | ||
| Yeah, fucking assholes hanging out and shit, you know? | ||
| Fuck, dude. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| You're a Norm Macdonald fan? | ||
| Yeah, I loved him. | ||
| I fucking love Norm Macdonald. | ||
| He's a great guy, man. | ||
| I love this skit about being famous. | ||
| He's like, what do we have to do after they went to the moon? | ||
| You had to go to the moon to be famous. | ||
| Now you just show your fucking asshole. | ||
| Success, dude. | ||
| There we go, man. | ||
| Yeah, it's true. | ||
| Norm was a gangster. | ||
| He didn't even tell anybody he had cancer. | ||
| Didn't tell anybody. | ||
| He was a fucking man, dude. | ||
| My friend Adam, who's a very good friend of his, he didn't even know. | ||
| He just fucking went off to Canada to die. | ||
| Solid fucking guy, too, man. | ||
| Super solid guy. | ||
| You'd never think he was a solid, moral human being, but as you got older, you started showing that, like, hey, I'm a decent human being. | ||
| You're like, oh shit. | ||
| No, he was a great guy. | ||
| He was a maniac, though. | ||
| Just randomly, for some reason, twice, I was on flights with him, sitting right next to him. | ||
| Just totally randomly. | ||
| It was crazy. | ||
| And one time, we were on this flight. | ||
| And we're talking, and he was telling me, yeah, I stopped smoking. | ||
| I don't smoke anymore. | ||
| And we're talking about smoking and this and that. | ||
| And I'm like, what was it about smoking? | ||
| He's telling me the whole deal. | ||
| The moment we land, he goes right into a fucking store and buys a pack of cigarettes. | ||
| And he's lighting the cigarette up before he gets out the door. | ||
| I go, I thought you quit smoking. | ||
| He goes, I did, but then I started talking about it. | ||
| I want to smoke. | ||
| He was lighting it inside before he went out the door. | ||
| Hey, old fucking man had a good life, dude. | ||
| You had a great life. | ||
| Fucking cancer, man. | ||
| My dad died of fucking cancer. | ||
| Fuck. | ||
| It's horrible shit. | ||
| My dad, dude, he was so fucked up on pills that, like, he had every kind of cancer. | ||
| Like, I mean, like, body, brain cancer. | ||
| Like, every kind of cancer. | ||
| And I think the doctors were like, dude, how did you not know something was wrong? | ||
| Like, at this point, you should have been like, there's something wrong with you, right? | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah, fucking A, dude, yeah. | ||
| And then he was like, my dad was such a fucking coward, though. | ||
| Like, he was the kind of guy, like, you know, Norm did the right thing. | ||
| He's like, I'm gonna go Canada. | ||
| I'm gonna die with dignity. | ||
| Nah, fuck that, dude. | ||
| My dad was like, give me all the drugs. | ||
| I'm just gonna ride this bitch out. | ||
| Well, if you're doing pills already and they tell you you're fucked. | ||
| They're thinking pills, man. | ||
| You want to talk about, like, the corruption. | ||
| Like, I don't know. | ||
| I'm sure your viewers have a lot of experience with dealing with people who do pills, man. | ||
| It's fucking horrible, dude. | ||
| It's the worst. | ||
| And, you know, that Sackler family, they just fucking bribed their way out of being prosecuted for that. | ||
| They just gave up $6 billion so that they're... | ||
| Immune to prosecution. | ||
| It's fucking evil shit what they did. | ||
| They knew that stuff was addictive. | ||
| They knew that people were gonna get hooked. | ||
| They knew it was gonna ruin lives and kill people. | ||
| I mean, you're in the entertainment area. | ||
| I'm sure you deal with it, dude. | ||
| It makes you zombies. | ||
| Like, pills suck the soul from you. | ||
| When I was in my motorcycle accident, man, I fucking tore... | ||
| I'm still missing my quadricep. | ||
| I fucking... | ||
| I left part of my kneecap on the road and, like, I would not take pills just because I watched it my whole life growing up. | ||
| I was like, fuck that. | ||
| I'm just gonna be in pain for this. | ||
| What's wrong with your quadricep? | ||
| So, it's torn. | ||
| It's gone. | ||
| You don't have a quad? | ||
| Yeah, no. | ||
| There's a little indent right there. | ||
| See how it like dips in? | ||
| Oh, whoa! | ||
| Yeah, so I got to the point where it's like, I mean, I could go get a fix. | ||
| I'm going to be out for a year, so, you know, I'll deal with that. | ||
| How would they fix it? | ||
| Probably just like, you know, maybe, it would be a pain in the ass. | ||
| They'd probably have to like lengthen it. | ||
| It's probably dead now, but yeah, I think they probably could, but I'm going to be out for a year or two years. | ||
| How much of it, does it affect your movement? | ||
| Have you compensated with the other muscles? | ||
| If I was athletic, it'd be really hard for me to fight. | ||
| But I stand like a fucking tree, you know? | ||
| I'm the easiest. | ||
| It's so funny. | ||
| Guys will come to the gym, like D1 wrestlers, and I'm like, listen, dude, you can shoot on me. | ||
| I'm the easiest motherfucker to take down. | ||
| You're going to take me down, but you ain't going to hold me down. | ||
| So luckily I stand like a fucking idiot. | ||
| So I could, you know, it's not that bad. | ||
| But if I was like an explosive wrestler, I'd be fucked. | ||
| I couldn't trade. | ||
| You don't want me to fight anymore. | ||
| If it was my lead leg, it'd be hard too. | ||
| Because I want to be able to absorb damage. | ||
| But yeah, so like, yeah, pills, man, fucking scary. | ||
| They're terrifying. | ||
| Dude, I'll never forget my dad, my fucking dad, dude. | ||
| He fucking, I'm like 17, 18, and I come home, and like, he's laying in bed, dude, my brother's 1911. My mom bought us guns at like super early. | ||
| Dude, I was like in fucking, I was like in fucking elementary school with a loaded gun in my room, you know? | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah, white trash, dude. | ||
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| So I'm like 17, I come home, and my dad's staying there, and my fucking brother's 45, you know, really cool 45, and he's like talking about killing himself, and I'm like... | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| And I'm like, dude, dad, like, I'm like, dude, you should do it, man. | ||
| Like, you should fucking do it. | ||
| You told him to do it? | ||
| Well, like, I'm like, dude, your wife's fucking her boss, your wife's cheating on you, like, you're fucking poor, like, you're a drug addict, like, like, where's your path to success from here? | ||
| You were telling him this at 14? | ||
| No, I was like 17. I was like, where is your... | ||
| I mean, fuck, I would have told him at 14. I probably would have at 14, I probably would have pulled the trigger, you know? | ||
| But I was like, dude, I was training now. | ||
| I was in a better place. | ||
| So I was like, where is your fucking path to success here? | ||
| Like, where is your happy ending? | ||
| I mean, there was at one point where I fucking took a gun, put his hand on the trigger, and I said, just fucking, you know... | ||
| When you're a minor sociopath, too, you know, you kind of get power out of that. | ||
| You kind of get a little kick out of it. | ||
| Like, oh yeah, I wonder if I can make him kill himself. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| But, fast forward, fast forward. | ||
| It's great you can laugh at it now. | ||
| Oh, dude. | ||
| I mean, if you can't laugh at all your fuck... | ||
| Dude, I mean, I went through some shit growing up, man. | ||
| But fast forward, man. | ||
| He fucking died 10 years later of fucking cancer. | ||
| And if you would have just fucking... | ||
| Some people you can't help, dude. | ||
| There's some people that like... | ||
| I mean, I'm not an advocate for suicide. | ||
| But there are some fucking motherfuckers in the world you cannot help. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And if you would have just did it, it would have saved himself 10 years of misery. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| Yeah, no, dude, my dad. | ||
| The worst thing about my dad, dude, is, like, when I was a kid, dude, he was, like, the monster, dude. | ||
| He was, like, the fucking boogeyman. | ||
| And I remember there was one time, dude, my brother fucking strapped him, like, we were talking elementary school, strapped a knife to his leg to go stab him. | ||
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Jesus. | |
| And then he bitched out last second. | ||
| I remember, like, him taking off the duct tape around his leg and just ripping all his hair out of his... | ||
| But yeah, later in life, dude, I think the first time I hit my dad, I was like 17. I headbutted and broke his nose and he just fell down crying. | ||
| I was like so disappointed. | ||
| I was like, you motherfucker. | ||
| Piece of shit, dude. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| You're the biggest fucking coward, you know? | ||
| Yeah, life's crazy. | ||
| I mean, how'd you, man? | ||
| You got good parents growing up? | ||
| My parents split up when I was five, but I got a good stepdad. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| What about your dad? | ||
| You talk to your dad? | ||
| No. | ||
| I don't talk to him at all. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Fucking dude, men suck, man. | ||
| Some of them do. | ||
| I'm like a bull dyke, bro. | ||
| I don't know why lesbians hate me, you guys. | ||
| I'm with you. | ||
| Fuck the men, dude. | ||
| I like pussy. | ||
| I hate men. | ||
| We're fucking... | ||
| There's good men out there, but it's hard to be a good man. | ||
| So it's a long path. | ||
| It's a very difficult path. | ||
| Oh yeah, dude. | ||
| And then, you know, fucking good men make fucked up kids. | ||
| They make fucked up. | ||
| Sometimes. | ||
| But there's not really many good men out there. | ||
| I'm going West Coast, you guys. | ||
| It's hard. | ||
| It's hard to be a good man. | ||
| I mean, it's a lot of work. | ||
| Growing up, my neighbors sucked. | ||
| All the hoodlums I hung out with fucking sucked. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And that's all you know. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's like what we're talking about with inner cities. | ||
| If that's all you know, it's very difficult to see a path outside of that. | ||
| I mean, if I, you know, say I fucking had a kid when I was younger, like, I would have fucked that kid up. | ||
| I would have fucked that kid up. | ||
| I mean, white trash, trailer park. | ||
| I mean, I wouldn't have beat him or put my dick in him, but, like, I would have fucked that kid up, you know? | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's actually funny. | ||
| I always tell the story. | ||
| My dad's dying of cancer, and he's doing, like, the... | ||
| He's doing his, like, forgiveness speech, you know? | ||
| I'm like, I'll go see you. | ||
| He's like, Sean, you know, I was really bad to you and your mom, but, uh... | ||
| But at least I never molested you. | ||
| Oh boy. | ||
| I was like, fuck yeah, dude. | ||
| What a low bar. | ||
| Cheers! | ||
| Hey, you never fucked me. | ||
| Give me one of those oxys. | ||
| I'm gonna fucking ride this out with you. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| Fucking hate you. | ||
| What the fuck, man. | ||
| But I think also, too, that's why people like me, because most people are fucked up. | ||
| They see me and they're like, oh yeah, man, I was fucked up. | ||
| I've watched my mom get the shit kicked out of her, too. | ||
| I've dodged a beer bottle on Christmas morning. | ||
| You know? | ||
| So I think that's why people like me, because a lot of people are fucked up. | ||
| A lot of people are fucked up, but you've managed to go through being fucked up to becoming one of the best fighters in the world. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's the hard path. | ||
| Oh, man, I was obsessive. | ||
| Like, I mean, when I was... | ||
| So I didn't really, like, one, I was fucking angry at you. | ||
| Like, I mean, I wanted to fucking kill someone so bad as a kid. | ||
| I'd walk around with a fucking knife just hoping I'd fucking, just like, fuck, I still want to kill somebody. | ||
| It just would make me feel good, you know? | ||
| I'd just fucking just, oh, I'd fucking love it. | ||
| But, so, you had that kind of anger growing up. | ||
| And I needed fucking, so that's why I was also a white supremacist. | ||
| I mean, could you picture being like, can you picture, I don't even know what this is like, and no one even interjected in my life, me being 12 years old, walking around doing the fucking Hill Hitler sloop with a fucking swastika on my arm. | ||
| At no point did anybody say like, hey, maybe we should help this fucking kid, you know? | ||
| I was in a, I remember like, seventh grade, I took a permanent mark and I drew a swastika on my arm. | ||
| And the teacher took me outside and berated me, pretty much calling me a piece of shit, like, you know what that fucking means? | ||
| You're a fucking piece of shit. | ||
| At no point was he like, hey man, why is this fucking 12-year-old kid having a swastika on his arm? | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's fucking... | ||
| Yeah, the system's weird, dude. | ||
| Well, life can certainly be weird if you got those circumstances. | ||
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Yeah, fuck. | |
| But you're like best case scenario from those circumstances. | ||
| Training, man. | ||
| It's fucking training. | ||
| I mean, dude, I was so fucking angry. | ||
| And that was the best thing about fighting for me is... | ||
| I could go in the garage every Friday night, Saturday night, and just hit the bag all night long. | ||
| And when my brother's party, my brother had these, like, so we didn't have, like, we had parents, but, like, my dad was probably trying to fuck the girls that my brother brought over for the high school parties, you know? | ||
| So it's like, my dad was out there probably giving him drugs and shit. | ||
| So, like, I would just be in the garage with all these fucking parties and debaucheries and fucking threesomes and foursomes were taking place, and I would just be in the garage fucking smacking the back, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop. | ||
| And then, like, I didn't fit in, so, like, it was really just a way for, oh, Sean's not weird, he's a fighter. | ||
| Sean's not the fucking weirdo that doesn't know how to talk to people, he's a fighter. | ||
| And that gave you your identity. | ||
| It gave him my identity. | ||
| I mean, every night I'd be running at night. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Where did you start? | ||
| What gym? | ||
| Empire. | ||
| I started when I was about 14. And where was that? | ||
| Corona, California. | ||
| And then I had my first, like, smoker fight at, like, 14. So, I mean, I'm fucking old now, you guys. | ||
| That was before amateur. | ||
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How old are you? | |
| I'm 32. That was, like, before amateur MMA. So it's, like, pretty much what you would do is you would just show up, they'd put chairs in, they'd buy tickets, and random people would just show up and you'd fight. | ||
| Yeah, so that's how I started. | ||
| And I didn't even want to fight. | ||
| I didn't want to fight. | ||
| I was like, Paul Hare was a fucking scumbag. | ||
| He was just like, you would show up and be like, well, if you're training here, you're fighting here. | ||
| Go sell tickets. | ||
| Me being 14. I mean, I think my first fight was against guys like 28 years old. | ||
| Like, you know, my fucking nuts barely dropped, dude. | ||
| But yeah, anger is a hell of a fucking thing, dude. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it's impossible to grow up like that and not have anger. | ||
| Fuck, dude. | ||
| You know what's weird, though? | ||
| And the thing is, though, it's not like... | ||
| And I try to tell people, like, I'm not necessarily anger. | ||
| I'm not angry. | ||
| Like, I would love to fucking cut somebody open, and I'm not angry. | ||
| Like, it just sounds nice. | ||
| You gotta get that out of your system, buddy. | ||
| I want to get a spar three times today. | ||
| Like, you gotta understand, man. | ||
| You gotta understand, bro. | ||
| You gotta understand, like... | ||
| People are like, oh, go to therapy. | ||
| Your brain, dude, the damage is done, bro. | ||
| It's unfixable. | ||
| Don't you think that sparring and training is a form of therapy? | ||
| Why do you think I spar so much? | ||
| And that's why I have such a good style where I don't get hit because I love to spar. | ||
| And if I got hit, I couldn't spar. | ||
| Well, your control of distance, your distance management because of all those rounds. | ||
| The UFC did a test where they let us wear a mouthpiece. | ||
| And I think that my whole training camp, I barely even got hit. | ||
| I sparred the most and took the least amount of damage to anybody in the program. | ||
| Because you spar so much? | ||
| I spar so much. | ||
| Is that the majority of your training? | ||
| Yeah, I spar. | ||
| I'll hit pads occasionally, but it's all live goes. | ||
| Really? | ||
| All live goes? | ||
| What about strength and conditioning? | ||
| You doing any of that? | ||
| Not really, no. | ||
| Really, it's just sparring. | ||
| Just sparring, man. | ||
| There's no better way to get in shape for fighting than fighting. | ||
| It's fun, dude. | ||
| It's fucking fun, man. | ||
| Like, you know, I'm such a nicer, better person, you know? | ||
| Like, after I go and try to fucking kill a man, I come home and my girlfriend, even she wants to pick a fight. | ||
| I'm like, baby, it's okay. | ||
| Don't worry about it. | ||
| Like, don't trip. | ||
| Like, where did I fuck up? | ||
| Tell me. | ||
| Tell me. | ||
| I'll fix it. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Like, dude, training. | ||
| Training's fucking nice, dude. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But I mean, dude, I don't like... | ||
| I think a lot of people, though, have these crazy homicidal urges, dude. | ||
| I think we all want to fucking shank somebody, shiv somebody. | ||
| There's a lot of people out there that have that. | ||
| Yeah, there's a lot of unresolved anger. | ||
| Bro, I used to, like, I used to sleep in my mom's bed a lot, right? | ||
| Because I thought, I mean, we're talking about, like, when I shunned in, like, elementary school. | ||
| Because, like, I thought my dad was going to fucking kill my mom. | ||
| So every night, dude, I would, like, I would go to bed thinking, like, oh, shit, my mom's going to die tonight, you know? | ||
| His words, not mine. | ||
| So, like, yeah. | ||
| I mean, you gotta learn to laugh at it, right? | ||
| At least you didn't fuck me. | ||
| I mean, I have some bad dreams, but I'm just gonna say those were bad dreams, right? | ||
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Jesus Christ. | |
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| So, yeah, you know, repressed memories are bad dreams. | ||
| It's always better to just say bad dreams, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, I, like, dude, I used to, like, sleep out by her fucking... | ||
| And this is where it fucked up, too. | ||
| Like, I used to sleep by her door and hear her fuck all the time. | ||
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Ugh. | |
| Because, you know, because being a little kid, dude, like, and listening to your mom get fucked by your dad because, like, you're so afraid she's going to fucking die. | ||
| That's so crazy. | ||
| Yeah, so there's one night. | ||
| There's one fucking night, dude. | ||
| And this is just like, and mind you, this is nightly. | ||
| This is nightly. | ||
| But this night stands out the most. | ||
| And my mom, fucking dumb bitch. | ||
| I love my mom. | ||
| She's amazing. | ||
| I mean, she's terrible, but she's amazing. | ||
| You know, she grew up in a boxcar. | ||
| How do you fix that? | ||
| So, her dad, her dad was a piece of shit. | ||
| So, one night, like, I'm, like, probably, like, third, fourth grade, and I went to go sleep in my mom's room. | ||
| My dad's like, fuck that. | ||
| They're having a bad fight. | ||
| I'm like, fuck. | ||
| So, I'm, like, laying out by the door, trying not to fucking, you know. | ||
| And I'm like, fuck it. | ||
| Like, I just don't feel good about this tonight. | ||
| I don't feel good about it tonight. | ||
| So, I, like, crawl under the bed. | ||
| I crawl under the bed. | ||
| And, uh... | ||
| We had like dogs. | ||
| There's no white trash, bro. | ||
| You got white trash. | ||
| It's got like fleas everywhere. | ||
| So I'm like, I'm hiding in the bed now. | ||
| There's fleas. | ||
| I think there's a fucking dildo next to me. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| So me being like, third grade, there's a fucking dildo next to me. | ||
| There's fucking fleas jumping all over me. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| So my dad, my dad gets on top of my mom and she says, he said, I'm going to fucking kill you. | ||
| Maybe it's just rough. | ||
| Maybe they're going to grab the deal afterwards. | ||
| So my dad gets on top of my mom and he starts fucking like strangling her, right? | ||
| And he's like, I'm going to fucking kill you tonight. | ||
| So me being a little kid, I get up. | ||
| I'm like, fuck, the only thing I see is the guitar. | ||
| My sister's guitar, she's so mad at me about it. | ||
| I grab the guitar, just fucking smack it over his head, grab the phone call, the cops run down the hill. | ||
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Oh my God. | |
| My mom and that dumb bitch bells them out of jail. | ||
| Oh Jesus Christ. | ||
| But, you know, like, and this is where it's fucked up, dude. | ||
| Like, my mom, like, that's where, like, my mom grew up in a fucking boxcar in Death Valley, bro. | ||
| Like, yeah. | ||
| Like, how do you, you know, how do you fix that generation of fuck? | ||
| You do. | ||
| Yeah, well, yeah, no, exactly. | ||
| That's the way. | ||
| You do by becoming you. | ||
| I don't drink, yeah, for sure. | ||
| For sure, man. | ||
| That's literally the only way. | ||
| Like, someone has to come out of that and go, like, there's a way out of this. | ||
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| Well, the thing is, dude, I'm not like... | ||
| I mean, I had a little interesting childhood, you know? | ||
| A lot of repressed memories and bad dreams and shit we don't need to talk about. | ||
| But, like, man, I'm calming, dude. | ||
| I'm calming. | ||
| I'm way more than you think. | ||
| Yeah, they just don't have a voice. | ||
| And this is like, you know, especially the black communities, the poor communities, man. | ||
| I'm fucking guys without fucking dads. | ||
| Fucking rough, dude. | ||
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Fucking... | |
| Yeah, life is hard, dude. | ||
| Life is fucking hard. | ||
| Yeah, but it really is. | ||
| That's the best path. | ||
| Like, martial arts are the best path to recover from that. | ||
| The only issue with martial arts, though, dude, and this is what I tell people, and if you got a kid who trains, and let's just say you're training, what I'll tell you, dude, and this is factual, and you guys should always understand this. | ||
| I tell everybody that comes in the gym, I had one guy, little Billy Bob's a pancreation champion. | ||
| I'm like, oh, that's cool. | ||
| And I tell him this. | ||
| When I was a kid, I was like 14, training at a gym, and there was a guy named Zach Light. | ||
| I don't know if he was an old school youth. | ||
| I remember that guy. | ||
| But he was like, you know, I'm like 14 years old. | ||
| This guy's like a hero to me. | ||
| I'm watching him teach cardio kickboxing. | ||
| I'm watching him teach like jiu-jitsu and like he'll spar and fuck me up. | ||
| I'm like, oh man, this guy's so fucking cool. | ||
| He's the life that I want. | ||
| And then hindsight, this man probably hates his fucking life. | ||
| He's probably fucking half brain dead. | ||
| He's teaching cardio kickboxing classes for 20 bucks a class. | ||
| So it's like, whenever you look at UFC fighters and you want to be this, understand, most of us, most of us end up poor, broke, and regretting our life choices. | ||
| Like... | ||
| It's easier ways to make money, guys. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| I love fighting. | ||
| If it wasn't fighting, I'd probably be a fucking... | ||
| I wouldn't be a serial killer. | ||
| I'd probably just be a fuckhead in jail with a swastika on my arm. | ||
| But don't you think that, like, that path... | ||
| If... | ||
| You've got to be 100% obsessed to become successful. | ||
| But even then, man, I mean, I see guys so often in life. | ||
| It's kind of funny talking about UFC and money. | ||
| I have a buddy named Ife. | ||
| I'm going to fuck his name. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| Kyle. | ||
| Some Brazilian guy. | ||
| Contenders guy. | ||
| Really good guy. | ||
| He's trying to fight Bo Nickel. | ||
| Anyway, UFC guy, he just bought his first house having a kid. | ||
| Dude, like, the average house in Brazil to buy is like $200,000. | ||
| Like, maybe even less. | ||
| I mean, that's like a nice house. | ||
| A nice house. | ||
| An average house in America is 4'5". | ||
| So it's like, you know, you see a lot more foreigners in this sport. | ||
| And you're like, why are there more foreigners in this sport? | ||
| America's pussies. | ||
| And I'm like, no, because they can afford it. | ||
| You go and you fight. | ||
| They're signing guys at 10 and 10. Like, literally 10 and 10. Like... | ||
| Ten and ten on four fights, man. | ||
| In three fights you get cut. | ||
| So they sign these Brazilians, these daggies, what the fuck you want to call them. | ||
| They go home with their 20k and they're living life good. | ||
| They're living life good. | ||
| How do you live on 20k and 20k... | ||
| And pay your manager and pay your trainers and pay your gym fees and food and proper nutrition. | ||
| So again, I think that's also a big reason why we're seeing less Americans because... | ||
| You know, they're taking our jobs. | ||
| Like, fuck, dude. | ||
| Like, you know, it's easier to import them, man. | ||
| It's easier to import fighters. | ||
| And they go back home to Dagestan, Brazil, and they live on their... | ||
| Let's just say they make shit money and they're happy. | ||
| Well, it's also who's talented and why are they so driven and who's training them and what kind of environment are they training in? | ||
| America is the best. | ||
| We have the best athletes in the world, man. | ||
| If there was, like, NFL money in the UFC... People think that I hate on UFC, dude. | ||
| I make more money on UFC than I should make in my entire fucking life. | ||
| I am a fucking company man. | ||
| If it wasn't for the UFC, bro, I'd be a piece of shit. | ||
| I'd be a fucking drug addict. | ||
| But if there was NFL money in the UFC... We would dominate the UFC. There would not be one foreign fucking champion. | ||
| But do you think that a lot of those guys who play sports, like they play football or they play basketball, do you think they would want to fight? | ||
| Because you have to have a very different kind of mentality to want to get into a ring or a cage with another man. | ||
| It's different than playing a sport. | ||
| The pressure, the consequences. | ||
| If it was a high school thing and you could go get a D1 scholarship and you could leave the ghettos by being an MMA fighter, 100%. | ||
| 100% they would do it. | ||
| Fuck yeah, man. | ||
| So how do we fix that? | ||
| Like, money in the UFC? I mean, fuck, I don't know, you know more about that than me. | ||
| Well, there's money in the UFC for guys like you. | ||
| Oh, yeah, I can't say. | ||
| There's money in the UFC, but that's also in boxing. | ||
| The UFC's better than boxing when it comes to how undercard fighters get paid. | ||
| Yeah, again, and this is, I'm a company man when it comes to UFC, you guys. | ||
| Like, most people, most people, most guys, like, even if they make fucking 80k a year, 90k a year, that's better than what we should have made. | ||
| We're like, we're fucking, I'm a fucking loser. | ||
| But, how do you fix it, man? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't think it needs to be fixed. | ||
| Well, it's better now than it's been before. | ||
| Let me just say, U of C has the most pay discrepancy. | ||
| When you're talking about top earnings to lower earnings, I think U of C probably has the most... | ||
| Boxing is worse. | ||
| Well, boxing's worse. | ||
| But we could say, let's exclude boxing. | ||
| But there's way more money at the top and way less trickle-down. | ||
| But I don't give a fuck. | ||
| But it's so hard to get to the top. | ||
| I mean, imagine just trying to explain to someone what you've done to become a top contender. | ||
| You only need to have one fuck-up, one slip-up, one mistake, two bad losses. | ||
| An injury. | ||
| But here's the thing, dude, guys, I'm not like, even though we're fucking whores, dude, we're prostitutes. | ||
| And I'm not like, you know, I'm not like, I'm not saying it's a bad thing. | ||
| We take our fucking clothes off and go fight a man. | ||
| Like, come on, dude, what the fuck? | ||
| But it's not. | ||
| It's like porn. | ||
| But it's also the ultimate form of entertainment for people that are watching. | ||
| There's nothing more exciting. | ||
| Oh yeah, good fight, man. | ||
| Gaethje versus Chandler. | ||
| Your fight this weekend, when you started turning it on in the second round, I was at the fucking edge of my seat. | ||
| I was like, he's got him. | ||
| But Gaethje versus Chandler. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| That was front rowing that one. | ||
| Insanity. | ||
| Fucking lost short in their life on that one. | ||
| But again, I'm not one of those guys bitching and complaining about pay. | ||
| I get paid good money. | ||
| I shouldn't be here. | ||
| I shouldn't be making what I'm fucking making in life. | ||
| UFC gave me an opportunity. | ||
| UFC is a common man sport. | ||
| Right now, fucking Jamie if he wanted to. | ||
| He could train. | ||
| Probably not going to happen, but he could be in the UFC if he wanted to. | ||
| Anybody could do it. | ||
| You let me restart my life and tell me to go be in the NFL, probably not going to happen. | ||
| Going to be in the NBA, 100% not going to happen. | ||
| UFC is a common man sport. | ||
| Any person on this planet could wake up one day and be like, I want to be a UFC champion. | ||
| And they could get it done. | ||
| I mean, not that easy, but you know. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I know what you're saying. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| UFC is fucking great, dude. | ||
| It's the best sport in the world and anybody could do it. | ||
| Well, it's not for everybody, that's for sure. | ||
| And for a guy to get as far as you've gotten, it's the rarest of the rare. | ||
| I mean, you think about how many people are training, how many people have aspirations, and then filter them all out to how many people get to headline a main event. | ||
| Ideally, though, if I could talk to a kid and they were to tell me they want to be UCF, I tell them don't do it. | ||
| Yeah, I would say that too. | ||
| It's America. | ||
| It's so easy. | ||
| Unless you're fucking completely fully obsessed. | ||
| I mean, unless that's what you want to do, that's the thing you think about all day long. | ||
| Because if you don't, there's someone out there that does. | ||
| And there's a lot of UFC fighters guys that suck. | ||
| There's a lot of motherfuckers that suck. | ||
| Extreme is like open doors. | ||
| Anybody could come. | ||
| Guys are in camp. | ||
| There's some guys that are badass. | ||
| But there's some UFC fighters that are like, dude, you fucking suck. | ||
| How the fuck did you get here? | ||
| What short notice fight did you get? | ||
| You are a sacrificial lamb. | ||
| Well, there's definitely a few of those. | ||
| Oh, there's a lot of those in the UFC. A lot of those. | ||
| That's a weird one, the short-notice fight against a top contender. | ||
| Like, you see some of those every now and then. | ||
| You're like, Jesus. | ||
| Generally, that's how you get in the UFC, though. | ||
| You generally get in the UFC by—I mean, I think I took a two-week notice, a week notice on my first UFC fight. | ||
| And that's why, if you're not in the UFC, you've got to stay ready. | ||
| You've got to build make weight. | ||
| You've got to stay fucking ready. | ||
| But— Yeah, man. | ||
| Greatest fucking sport in the world, dude. | ||
| Fucking love UFC. Hopefully I can fight Izzy, the China's little slut. | ||
| What is the status of... | ||
| So right now, Whitaker is fighting this weekend against Dracus Duplicy. | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| And that will probably determine... | ||
| That will determine. | ||
| But I mean, fucking dude, how many times this will be their third, fourth fight with Whitaker and Izzy? | ||
| Yeah, but the last one was so close. | ||
| That's why it's interesting to people. | ||
| And, you know, we'll see what happens with Duper C. But I think they want to fight on the Australian card. | ||
| So we're in the works. | ||
| I think Izzy wants it. | ||
| I think the management wants it, you know? | ||
| So we're in the works. | ||
| And fucking Izzy, man, I can't stand that fucking guy. | ||
| I love that guy. | ||
| How come you can't stand him? | ||
| Well, you gotta interview this guy, so you gotta be nice. | ||
| No, I love him. | ||
| You see that thing when he was like, this is the color, you look at the color of my skin, you think I'm from Africa. | ||
| Have you seen that? | ||
| No. | ||
| Oh my god, you gotta see it, dude. | ||
| We gotta see it. | ||
| But he is from Africa. | ||
| Well, no, there's more. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| I am not African. | ||
| I am Chinese. | ||
|
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What? | |
| You've never seen that? | ||
| Oh man, you gotta watch. | ||
| You gotta, guys, if you guys watch this, can you... | ||
| On your time, pull up Izzy Cringe. | ||
| He says, I'll quote, You look at the color of my skin. | ||
| You think I'm from Africa, but I am Chinese. | ||
| Like, dude, that level of fucking... | ||
| I played it because I do a little podcast on Man Dance with my buddy Chris Curtis. | ||
| You know, I like to have a black guy on my podcast. | ||
| Makes you look a little bit more wholesome. | ||
| And Kurt never seen it, too. | ||
| And I'm like, Kurt, you know, as a black man, let's... | ||
| Did he say this when he was fighting in China? | ||
| He was fighting in China. | ||
| But, like, that level, like, I always call him China's little slut. | ||
| Oh, Jesus. | ||
| Because, like, dude, I mean, could you picture... | ||
| Like, here's the thing, you guys. | ||
| We have all done things. | ||
| We have all been a whore to somebody. | ||
| We have all been friends with somebody we shouldn't have been friends with. | ||
| We have all been buddies because maybe he could plug me into this. | ||
| Maybe he could give me a dollar. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But, like, that level of fucking being a slut, dude. | ||
| Like, my God, how do you... | ||
| And then later on in life, they called him out for it. | ||
| They called him out for it. | ||
| He was like, because they're fucking paying me, that's why. | ||
| And, like, dude, then it makes you even a bear whore. | ||
| Now you're like, now you're getting defensive. | ||
| Like, oh yeah, no, I can't stand it. | ||
| And then he's like the video of him jerking his dog off. | ||
| You see that? | ||
|
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What? | |
| Yeah, how do you not watch it, bro? | ||
| I don't sit around watching people jerk their dogs off, ever. | ||
| If there's a video of you jerking your dog off, I wouldn't watch it. | ||
| Dude, there's a video of him like fucking jerking his dog off. | ||
| I'm not fucking sure Jamie's seen it, man. | ||
| Jamie has not seen it. | ||
| I can guarantee you he would have told me about it. | ||
| I'm looking for this quote. | ||
| When I typed it in, it's bringing up stuff because he fought in China. | ||
|
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He was saying something about it. | |
| Yeah, you just type it. | ||
| It comes up as a short, a YouTube short, like Izzy's cringe moment. | ||
| And there's also a video of him jerking off his dog, and like, dude, the guy is a fucking... | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| And the fucking nail polish. | ||
| God, Izzy just fucking sucks, you guys. | ||
| We need to bring back the old... | ||
| Anderson Silva, dude, come back. | ||
| Come back, Anderson. | ||
| Come back. | ||
| But you've got to admit the dude is talented as fuck. | ||
| Oh, the dude can fucking fight, man. | ||
| People always say, like, why do you talk shit on Izzy? | ||
| Like, I never say the guy can't fight. | ||
| I'm not sitting here saying Izzy's not a champion. | ||
| I'm not sitting here saying Izzy might not be one of the best kickboxers in the world. | ||
| I'm saying that Izzy is China's slut. | ||
| If he was in prison, he would turn you out. | ||
| He would turn you in. | ||
| Like, he would sell you out. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, there is not... | ||
| The character of Izzy is so, so low. | ||
| And this is coming from me, you guys. | ||
| I just told you how fucking, you know, at least my mom and dad have sex while I thought she was going to die. | ||
| So this is coming from, like, I'm an expert on, like, shitty people. | ||
| Right? | ||
| And Izzy, man. | ||
| China's... | ||
| And then the thing with the Drakus. | ||
| Remember when he got all mad at Drakus? | ||
| Because Drakus talked about being African? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, motherfucker, you aren't African. | ||
| You are Chinese. | ||
| Your words, quote for quote. | ||
| Dreykus has lived in Africa his entire fucking life. | ||
| He never woke up one day and says, you know what? | ||
| China's giving me money. | ||
| I'm Chinese now. | ||
| If I ever fight Izzy, I'm going to go get a little Chinese flag that says slut on it. | ||
| And I'll bring it to the weigh-in for you guys. | ||
| And I'll hand him his little Chinese flag that says slut just for Izzy. | ||
| Is this talking shit about him like this? | ||
| Could this possibly fuck it up? | ||
| No, I mean, I don't fucking know. | ||
| I mean, wouldn't you want to hit the guy that says that you're a fucking jerk your dog off? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| First of all, I didn't say he jerked his dog off. | ||
| He jerked his dog off. | ||
| I'm just reiterating the video. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Man, you gotta see this, bro. | ||
| I don't have to see it. | ||
| Oh, it's great. | ||
| Don't ever want to see a dog get jerked off. | ||
| I got a picture. | ||
| I got a picture. | ||
| So, Izzy, tell me about your win as you take a couple of step backs and you're gonna be thinking about jerking his dog off the whole fucking time. | ||
| That's why I don't want to see it. | ||
| But yeah, no, guy's a great fighter. | ||
| Fucking hands down, great fighter. | ||
|
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Elite. | |
| That win over Pajera. | ||
| That was fucking crazy. | ||
| But you know, man, he's also genetically so advantaged. | ||
| Like, if Izzy was a normal-sized motherfucker, I'd walk through him. | ||
| The only reason why it'd be a tough fight is because he's 6'4", 6'3", 80 plus inch reach. | ||
| There's nothing wrong with that. | ||
| But also super fucking talented. | ||
| There's a lot of tall guys. | ||
| At middleweight, there's not many guys with his stature. | ||
|
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How tall was Magomedov? | |
| Not even close, like a 76, 77 inch reach, 78 inch reach. | ||
| I mean, we're talking about like NBA level 6'3", like getting past five, six inches of reach is a hard fucking thing to do. | ||
| Hard fucking thing to do. | ||
| Well, I was always, what is this, culture and protocol? | ||
| Oh, no, you gotta do that. | ||
| It's a short, bro. | ||
| Go black. | ||
| Well, this one isn't short. | ||
| This is a little longer, but... | ||
| But it's on, like, the main. | ||
| If you just click on... | ||
|
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Ni hao. | |
| I am the Black Dragon. | ||
| I was born in Nigeria. | ||
| I grew up in New Zealand, but I have lived in China, so I've embraced the Chinese... | ||
| No, bro, this is... | ||
| My teacher, Sifu Lingzhenchuan, comes from China, and he has been teaching Chinese Kung Fu in New Zealand for almost 50 years. | ||
|
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I've known Sifu Lin since I was a teenager. | |
| You're giving this man too much. | ||
| Izzy, I am Chinese. | ||
|
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What are you thinking? | |
| I'm a black man. | ||
| Put it in the microphone so we can hear it. | ||
|
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Come on, please, look at my heart. | |
| Take a look at me. | ||
| What are you thinking? | ||
| I'm a black man? | ||
| I'm from Africa? | ||
| Come on, please, look at my heart. | ||
|
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Haven't you seen it yet? | |
| Wait a second. | ||
| Pulls the flag out. | ||
|
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Yes. | |
| I'm a Chinese. | ||
| I have a Chinese heart. | ||
| He has a Chinese heart. | ||
| Yes, I am Chinese. | ||
| I have a Chinese heart. | ||
| But what I'm saying, dude, that level, like China's a little slut, you guys. | ||
| That fight needs to happen, you guys. | ||
| And I'll do you guys a favor. | ||
| I'll bring a little Chinese flag and I'll write a slut on it just so he can wave it like he did when he was getting money from him. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| Like, even me. | ||
| I always joke about, like, dude, fuck China. | ||
| Like, fuck China. | ||
| Oh, God, I'm going to get kicked out of the UFC now. | ||
| Is that my phone going off? | ||
| I think so. | ||
| You're playing new videos. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| That's what you get for using an Android. | ||
| Yeah, fuck, man. | ||
|
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Freedom. | |
| Those fucking things just go off. | ||
| But yeah, no, man. | ||
| Fucking China, dude. | ||
| How do you even... | ||
| After that fucking... | ||
| How do you even... | ||
| Well, this was a long time ago, wasn't it? | ||
| Yeah, I guess this was before they were fucking locking Muslims up. | ||
| We didn't have this thought about China. | ||
| I didn't even think about China 10 years ago. | ||
| China was just like, oh, they make stuff over there. | ||
| China's the fucking enemy, dude. | ||
| Well, it's a sketchy part of the world because they have an authoritarian government that controls all their corporations. | ||
| And that's what America wants. | ||
| They see that and they want that social credit score system. | ||
| They want the centralized digital currencies so they can control what you buy. | ||
| It's actually kind of funny, dude. | ||
| I talk so much shit on Muslims, guys. | ||
| I can't help it. | ||
| I just talk shit on everybody. | ||
| I talk shit on Jews. | ||
| I talk shit on Christians. | ||
| But at no point is a Jew coming up to me. | ||
| At no point, dude. | ||
| I talk shit on Jews all the time. | ||
| At no point am I opening up my inbox and I'm seeing a Palestine flag talking about fucking cutting my head off. | ||
| Muslims, all the fucking time. | ||
| All the fucking time. | ||
| Every time I fight a Muslim, dude, it's like, you guys should see my inbox, man. | ||
| It's fucking spooky. | ||
| Do you read that stuff? | ||
| I'll skim through every blue moon just to laugh. | ||
| I mean, I carry a gun on me. | ||
| I want to kill a motherfucker. | ||
| Just make my day, motherfuckers. | ||
| Jesus Christ, John. | ||
| The UFC is going to have the hardest time taking clips out of this one. | ||
| You know, because sometimes they take clips out of fighters' interviews and they make promos. | ||
| This one, good fucking luck, kids. | ||
|
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Yeah, fuck, man. | |
| All those guys working for the UFC, I salute you. | ||
| Bro, they had to cut my last press conference. | ||
| They edited it out. | ||
| I started talking about that girl that, like, say my name, I remember your name. | ||
| What are you talking about? | ||
| And then the girl that died, dude, and everybody fucking posted a fucking picture of her. | ||
| God, dude, aren't you like a fucking guy? | ||
| This is your guy. | ||
|
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You're right. | |
| I'm just trying to remember what you're saying. | ||
| So, she died. | ||
| Amateur girl. | ||
| Really shitty amateur fighter. | ||
| She died. | ||
| The letter got put to Dana, and Dana posted her and says, I know your name. | ||
| Because in the journal diary, the thing says, I know your name. | ||
| Who is this girl? | ||
| Do you wear this, Jamie? | ||
| Oh, this is a girl. | ||
| No, no, that's not her. | ||
| Dana White posted about it. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| But anyways, so it was a big fucking thing, and I kind of went hard on the Instagram, and I got a lot of shit for it. | ||
| So, someone, yeah. | ||
| How did she die? | ||
| I think a car accident. | ||
| But again, someone brought it up in the press conference. | ||
| I'm like a pseudo-comedian. | ||
| I'm not quite funny, but I'm there. | ||
| I'm almost there. | ||
| So every time I make a really good point, I gotta fucking ruin it. | ||
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I gotta fucking ruin it. | |
| But again, I don't want to be a fucking politician. | ||
| I don't want to be a philosopher. | ||
| I'm a fucking comedian that hits people. | ||
| So, like, you know, what Dana White did was fucking great, dude. | ||
| Like, I think that's awesome, man. | ||
| He fucking, you know, someone showed him the journal, and he's like, you know, fucking, I'm Dana White, I know your name, you know, blah, blah, blah. | ||
| But then you had these fucking bandwagon motherfuckers, dude. | ||
| You had like Joaquin Buckley, just the little, the cringe lord he is. | ||
| Joaquin Buckley, dude. | ||
| That guy's Instagram is fucking rough, dude. | ||
| I like Joaquin Buckley. | ||
| I actually want to hang out with him on Saturday. | ||
| I like him a lot. | ||
| I'm going to hang out with him on Saturday, but man, every time I see his Instagram, it makes me want to fucking fight him. | ||
| He's just a cringy motherfucker, dude. | ||
| Go look at Joaquin's Buckley. | ||
| You'll know what I'm talking about. | ||
| So, you know, that little fucking attention whore he is, little Buckley. | ||
| Cool little kick. | ||
| Jesus Christ, Sean. | ||
| And the same thing with fucking Stephen Bonner, bro. | ||
| You got these fucking sluts, bro. | ||
| You got these sluts that just, like, they want to be, like, different than... | ||
| So he posts a picture of her, and I'm like, oh, goddammit, dude. | ||
| Don't do it, Sean. | ||
| Don't bring this up. | ||
| Don't bring this shit up. | ||
| And you did. | ||
| And then I brought it up. | ||
| And I was like, guys, at the end of the day, dude, she's a hot, young, white woman. | ||
| That's the only fucking reason why. | ||
| And she's fucking trending. | ||
| No one gives a fuck about her. | ||
| Dana White, again, applaud to Dana White. | ||
| That was a message directly to you. | ||
| But all you of the fighters hitting the repost button, this and that, you guys are just fucking fags. | ||
| You literally guys are just doing it for attention. | ||
| There's a lot of that. | ||
| There's a lot of things that people do with a virtue signal. | ||
| There was a Brazilian fighter. | ||
| And mind you guys, I'm a piece of shit. | ||
| I mean, I'm just telling you how I try to fucking kill my dad. | ||
| I'm like, my brain doesn't work right. | ||
| But this Brazilian fighter died not so long and got hit by a bus. | ||
| Ex-UFC fighter. | ||
| And my first thought, when someone told me, I was like, oh, fuck, man, he can't dodge a bus, can't fucking, can't dodge a punch, right? | ||
| That's why he's not in UFC anymore. | ||
| Mind you guys, I've been hit by a truck. | ||
| I almost fucking died once. | ||
| So, you know, it's like, you know, it's like I have a black best friend here. | ||
| Like, I've been there, you guys. | ||
| It almost fucking happened to me. | ||
| But that was my first response was like, but why is this man not trending? | ||
| This man probably left a family. | ||
| He probably, you know, he left a life. | ||
| He's not trending because he's a dirty fucking Brazilian and no one gives a fuck about him. | ||
| If you were a hot young white woman, you motherfucker would be trending. | ||
| You would be on ESPN. | ||
| Our beloved ex-UFC fighter died. | ||
| And it's just like, man, we just live in this fake world. | ||
| It's so fake. | ||
| But that is a problem with social media, is that people have this opportunity to try to portray a version of themselves that might not be honest. | ||
| Oh, it's so fake. | ||
| Or like when Stefan Bonner died. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That motherfucker was gone, dude. | ||
| I mean, I had a talk with Forrest, and Forrest kind of reprimanded me about it. | ||
| Because, you know, rightly so, you guys. | ||
| I'm an asshole. | ||
| I say things that are way off the cusp. | ||
| There might be, like, an ounce of truth to it, but 90% of it's bullshit. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So, Stephen Bonner added me on Instagram. | ||
| I'm like, oh shit, Stephen Bonner, I'm a fucking fanboy. | ||
| I'm gonna fucking add him back. | ||
| And then he would post shit, send me messages, and I'd block him right out of the back. | ||
| I'm like, you're fucking nuts, dude. | ||
| You're a fucking pill addict. | ||
| I want nothing to fucking do with you. | ||
| What was he sending me messages about? | ||
| Just crazy. | ||
| He's a libertarian dude, but a lot of it just like, you know... | ||
| Like, just fucking nuts, bro. | ||
| Like, his gym closed down and turned COVID nuts. | ||
| But, and this is another thing I got shit on. | ||
| And I was the only one that was like, fuck Stephen Barnard, man. | ||
| That guy was fucking nuts. | ||
| He was a fucking drug addict. | ||
| Like, I don't give a fuck about him. | ||
| Like, I didn't go and fucking force the oxys down his throat. | ||
| I didn't fucking make him OD. So everybody got me shit on that, and they all posted about it. | ||
| And I'm like, listen, I didn't like the guy, and I blocked him. | ||
| But where were you guys when his life was falling apart? | ||
| Where were you guys when he was publicly saying, my gym is failing, I can't keep the doors open, they're locking me out. | ||
| Where the fuck were you guys? | ||
| You guys weren't fucking anywhere. | ||
| You don't give a fuck about him. | ||
| You never gave a fuck about him. | ||
| And then when he dies, this is an opportunity to say you miss him. | ||
| And I'm not going to say names or anything, but I've had conversations with people. | ||
| They didn't joke about it, but it was like, yeah, that guy was fucking nuts. | ||
| And yet they're posting something. | ||
| It's just fake, dude. | ||
| If you're going to joke about his crazy ass dying and him being a pill addict, then you go and post about like, oh yeah, Stefan Bonner, he was a great guy. | ||
| No, motherfucker, he was a fucking pill addict. | ||
| You all knew, we all fucking knew, there were so many people involved in his life that could have stepped in. | ||
| And I don't think you should have. | ||
| I've dealt with pill addicts my whole life. | ||
| I think you should have thrown some oxys and be like, huzzah, man, enjoy. | ||
| I ran into him when he was sober. | ||
| I ran into him when he had cleaned himself up. | ||
| I was in Salt Lake City about a year and a half ago. | ||
| He went through a stretch that he was clean. | ||
| And I was doing a show out there and he came to the show and he came and he brought this stem cell doctor who runs this Utah stem cell clinic and he was clear eyed and we had a fun talk. | ||
| It was cool. | ||
| Well that's what Forrest said too. | ||
| That's what Forrest said too. | ||
| And I told Forrest, I'm like, Forrest, I'm just telling you dude, I've been, I mean, I was watching my dad snort oxys off the kitchen table when I was in elementary school. | ||
| Like, I know drug addicts. | ||
| The guy's a fucking drug addict. | ||
| And I was like, and I'm not saying Forrest is a stand-up guy. | ||
| I think Forrest did reach his hand out in multiple times to help him. | ||
| But, you know, people are involved, dude. | ||
| Like, imagine, like, your closest friend, like, if they were, like, addicted to drugs. | ||
| You'd be like, you'd be involved. | ||
| Like Chris Curtis, man. | ||
| Chris Curtis has a little white baby on the way. | ||
| You know, a little mixed breed. | ||
| Chris Curtis, I'm proud of you, man. | ||
| You fucking making that money. | ||
| Got your white wife. | ||
| I'm happy for you. | ||
| We have a podcast together. | ||
| It's nice. | ||
| But if right now, like, if Kurt was addicted to Oxy... | ||
| You would help him. | ||
| I'd fucking help him without a doubt. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I would help him. | ||
| Maybe he just didn't have someone like that in his life. | ||
| And also, sometimes those guys, they burn so many bridges that by the time the shit goes sideways, they don't have anybody that's going to stick their neck out for them. | ||
| That's why we talk about it in Segway to homeless people. | ||
| People are like, oh man, I won't give a dime to a fucking homeless person, dude. | ||
| You go fucking be homeless, go drink the sewer water. | ||
| Because you've got to think about me, piece of shit. | ||
| But there was always someone in my life that was like, hey, you can sleep on my couch for a weekend. | ||
| You can sleep on my couch for a week. | ||
| Come train here. | ||
| Sleep on my couch. | ||
| Like, if you're such a big piece of shit to where, like, there's not one person, you can't call one person and be like, hey. | ||
| Yeah, but it's like you're saying that because you knew people from training, people that knew you, and you could sleep on the couch. | ||
| There's some people that never have that. | ||
| They never find a thing. | ||
| They never have anybody in their life that's any good. | ||
| There's circumstances involved. | ||
| I see what you're saying. | ||
| But there are circumstances involved with some people where they just never get a break. | ||
| Look, I got better breaks than you did, but you got better breaks than some homeless guy did. | ||
| Okay, to that point, my family home, my mom lives in Fallbrook, California. | ||
| It's a very... | ||
| It's a migrant. | ||
| Migrant community. | ||
| There's this guy named Juan. | ||
| Fucking Juan, man. | ||
| The guy can't even read or write. | ||
| He's a migrant worker. | ||
| And man, he raised a family. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He works his fucking ass off. | ||
| Like, what I'm saying is you have this Mexican guy that comes across the border legally. | ||
| No license, no anything. | ||
| Can't read or write. | ||
| And this motherfucker is raising a family... | ||
| A successful family. | ||
| I think only one kid is an American citizen. | ||
| But raising a successful family. | ||
| So it's so hard for me, man. | ||
| It's America, dude. | ||
| I know what you're saying. | ||
| It's hard, bro. | ||
| I know what you're saying, but you've got to recognize that some people have way worse circumstances, even than you. | ||
| Even than me? | ||
| Fuck yeah, dude. | ||
| I know girls have been fucked by their dad their whole life. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| And some of my friends, bro, at Disneyland. | ||
| I met a guy in South Africa who had to fucking kill his mom. | ||
| Like, crazy. | ||
| I'm fucking Disneyland. | ||
| That's why I can laugh and joke at it. | ||
| I think about this guy. | ||
| Every time I feel like a bitch, you guys, every time I feel like a fucking pussy, I look in the mirror and I think about my buddy in Africa who had to smoke his mom. | ||
| Why do you have to smoke his mom? | ||
| So, again, what they do is they'll come into your village or wherever the fuck you're from, and they want to brainwash you. | ||
| And what's the best way of doing that? | ||
| By having you do something so fucked up. | ||
| And then if they could get you to do that, then you're pliable. | ||
| Then they could give you drugs, and they could make you into a rebel. | ||
| I don't think it's like that. | ||
| I think the mom is kind of like, if you don't do it, they're going to fucking kill you too. | ||
| The mom is probably encouraging him to fucking... | ||
| Oh, Jesus Christ. | ||
| So what I'm saying, you guys, I tell myself that story once a week at least. | ||
| And I'm like, dude, don't be a pussy. | ||
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Wow. | |
| But, you know, sometimes, like, it's kind of interesting. | ||
| I was telling you about security team. | ||
| By the way, Joe has a pretty solid-ass security team. | ||
| You guys don't want to come fuck with this guy. | ||
| All like Navy SEALs, Special Forces and shit. | ||
| It's a little overkill, fucking Joe. | ||
| Not really. | ||
| Fucking more than Biden over here. | ||
| No, it's not more than Biden and not overkill. | ||
| I could tell you some stories. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| I would imagine, dude. | ||
| I would imagine. | ||
| But, you know, man, every now and then, again, this has nothing to do with that guy. | ||
| He was a saint. | ||
| But you got to do some bad shit, though. | ||
| Like, I was telling your security team, because, you know, I'm sure they've all done some bad shit. | ||
| Like, my buddy Chris Curtis, so irrelevant, but it's a funny story. | ||
| This construction worker comes to the gym. | ||
| And it's on YouTube. | ||
| It's on Instagram. | ||
| He comes to the gym. | ||
| And then Kurt's like, I'm like, Kurt, you should let me spar him. | ||
| You should let me do the work. | ||
| And Kurt's like, no, I want to do it. | ||
| I want to do it. | ||
| So Kurt's being so nice, pulling head kicks and just hits him with a body shot and he falls and he stops. | ||
| I'm like, Kurt, you're such a fucking bitch, dude. | ||
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You're such a fucking bitch. | |
| Pussy. | ||
| So afterwards, he's like, Sean, like, he has a family. | ||
| Like, he has a family. | ||
| Like, I'm not going to take this man out of work. | ||
| Like, he just doesn't know. | ||
| So afterwards, the guy says something to Kurt, like, like, oh, man, if I was more in shape, I could have did better with you or something. | ||
| And then Kurt goes straight angry black guy. | ||
| Kurt's like the whitest man you ever know, but the moment he gets angry, bro, it's like full fucking ebonics, angry fucking black man. | ||
| And I'm like, Kurt, you had your chance. | ||
| Like, you gotta stop, dude. | ||
| He's like trying to fight him now in the park, in the gym. | ||
| I'm like, dude, you had your chance. | ||
| Oh, so the guy was saying to him... | ||
| Yeah, and then all of a sudden, Kurt just goes like straight angry black guy, and he's like, fuck that whole... | ||
| And we're all holding Kurt back. | ||
| And I'm like, Kurt, you had your chance. | ||
| And sometimes, dude, like, you just gotta be comfortable doing fucked up shit. | ||
| Like, there's probably nothing I could do where I would, like, lose sleep at night. | ||
| Nothing. | ||
| Nothing. | ||
| Sociopathic. | ||
| No, I mean, maybe like killing a family member or something. | ||
| I kind of want to find out. | ||
| I'd kind of be curious. | ||
| There's a part of me that I would never want to do it, but is there something I can do that would... | ||
| Making me say, oh man, I don't like myself. | ||
| Well, you're lucky you're in the right business. | ||
| But you know what I'm saying? | ||
| If Kurt, what I told Kurt, like if it was me, I would have fucking, oh, I would have fucking starched that guy as he's falling. | ||
| I would have dropped a fucking people's elbow on his ass. | ||
| But like, man, like you just gotta, you gotta push this, like gotta fuck a fat chick every now and then, you know? | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| You're so lucky you found fighting. | ||
| It's so hilarious. | ||
| You're going to look back on this conversation someday and go, God damn, when I was 34, I was out of my fucking mind. | ||
| No, dude, I think I'm going to be this way. | ||
| You think so? | ||
| Have you ever done something really bad? | ||
| Like, really bad, really fucked up. | ||
| Not really. | ||
| Nothing? | ||
| No, nothing like that. | ||
| Nothing where I lose sleep over it. | ||
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I've done things where I should have lost. | |
| That's the problem. | ||
| But there is this moment where I'm like, man, I'm kind of curious. | ||
| I wish I could just do something super, super heinous. | ||
| Just to see how you react to it. | ||
| Just to see if I feel bad. | ||
| Yeah, don't do that. | ||
| Don't do that. | ||
| It'll be fucked up if this conversation comes out after you've done something really bad. | ||
| No, I live in the straight and narrow. | ||
| Maybe it's some shit in the past, but yeah, I live in the straight and narrow now. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| So embrace that. | ||
| Don't be thinking about this. | ||
| Don't even entertain those thoughts. | ||
| You know what I fucking did after my fight? | ||
| I didn't go chase pussy. | ||
| I went fucking hat in and out with my girlfriend and watched a fucking baking championship after my last fight. | ||
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A what championship? | |
| A baking championship. | ||
| Really? | ||
| I watch a fucking baking fucking cook-off with my girlfriend, guys. | ||
| That's perfect. | ||
| I'm fucking boring. | ||
| I don't do shit, you guys. | ||
| Well, that's whatever... | ||
| You probably have no energy after training. | ||
| No, I'm fucking right as Ryan, dude. | ||
| Are you kidding me? | ||
| No, I like... | ||
| Boredom is my Achilles heels, dude. | ||
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Like... | |
| And that's why I get this voice in my head, dude. | ||
| And you see my press conferences. | ||
| I get this voice in my head. | ||
| And I think it's like, I think the clinical term, it's like antisocial personality, conduct disorder. | ||
| So when you're a kid, you have conduct disorder, then it spirals in like antisocial personality disorder. | ||
| And it's like it's borderline sociopathic. | ||
| But one of the big traits is self-control. | ||
| I fucking know self-control, dude. | ||
| Well, that's also a factor of getting hit in the head a lot. | ||
| But it was like that when I was a kid. | ||
| I get this voice in my head, and it tells me to fucking do something, and then it just sits there, and I'm like, I'm doing it. | ||
| I'm fucking doing it. | ||
| I'm still in this car. | ||
| I'm doing it. | ||
| Growing up with no guidance. | ||
| Growing up with fucked up family. | ||
| Growing up with fucked up circumstances. | ||
| Dude, I isolate myself. | ||
| People are like, oh yeah, Sean, do you want to go hang out? | ||
| Go to Washington? | ||
| No, fuck no, I don't. | ||
| I want to sit at home, maybe play a video game, get good food. | ||
| That's good, though. | ||
| That's good that you recognize that. | ||
| That you don't want to put yourself in a situation where you can fuck your whole life up. | ||
| I can't say fucking no to anything. | ||
| Well, your life is going so well right now, too. | ||
| It would be a fucking horrible shame if you fucked it up. | ||
| Yeah, fuck, man. | ||
| Because you gave in to the demons. | ||
| Yeah, demons. | ||
| Me and my demons are fucking buddies, dude. | ||
| I always say, dude, I always say, like, and this is, I'm not religious, obviously, but if God and the devil were real, the only person who's ever been there for me has been the devil. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| Out of my back 24-7. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| 24-7. | ||
| But it's true. | ||
| You're gonna get a bunch of DMs from Satanists now. | ||
| But it's true. | ||
| Like, but you gotta think about it. | ||
| Like, evil deeds have been my friend. | ||
| Like, when I was, again, when I was a kid and I had to do fucked up shit, hit my dad with a guitar, like, I had to, like, you know, become a sociopath. | ||
| I had to, like, turn, shut, sworn, dirty, man. | ||
| The devil, man. | ||
| 24-7, have my back. | ||
| 24-7 made me have moral fluidity. | ||
| I can do bad things now and not feel fucking terrible about it. | ||
| Are you happy with that, though? | ||
| Do you like that? | ||
| Or do you wish you were a better person? | ||
| Do you know what it is, dude? | ||
| Again, I'm not a bad person. | ||
| For the most part, I hold doors for old ladies. | ||
| I'm a pretty decent human being. | ||
| It's just evolution, bro. | ||
| It's like evolution of being a sociopath. | ||
| It's a purpose. | ||
| And this is where it's hard for me to understand. | ||
| And you don't even know this until you get older, but I evolved. | ||
| My brain thought the world was different. | ||
| And then all of a sudden you become an adult and you're like, the way my brain formed and grew up isn't the way the world is. | ||
| My brain trained me that the world's brutal, it's harsh, you're a victim, you have to be a predator, you have to be a bully, you have to hurt people, you have to crave power, you have to want sex. | ||
| And then you turn to an adult and you're like, oh man, that's not how life is. | ||
| But don't you think that you continue to evolve? | ||
| If you evolve past that, don't you think you continue to evolve? | ||
| Once your base brain, like you could slowly, like you could brainwash yourself to think fucking I'm a chicken if I slowly go through the process of brainwashing myself. | ||
| But once those foundations are set, dude, it's hard to unset them. | ||
| Have you ever done psychedelics? | ||
| No, no. | ||
| Drugs scare me, dude. | ||
| Drugs do. | ||
| I mean, I'm a dick. | ||
| Like, fucking look at me, dude. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| Coffees, black rifles. | ||
| Yeah, fucking you, man. | ||
| I like what you said about the... | ||
| He was telling me about the Rittenhouse thing, man. | ||
| Thanks for clearing that up. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I just not drink this shit. | ||
| I just not drink this shit. | ||
| Well, yeah, they got a real bad fucking rap because a lot of right-wing people did the dumb shit that left-wing people did. | ||
| They turned on them for no reason. | ||
| They were wrong. | ||
| They weren't turning their back on Rittenhouse. | ||
| They just factually said, because everyone was saying they sponsored Kyle Rittenhouse and gave him a t-shirt to wear when he got out of jail. | ||
| So that being said, dude, don't fucking trust the media, right? | ||
| Even me, I was like, fuck Black Rifle. | ||
| I even said that. | ||
| Those guys are the salt of the earth. | ||
| I had a hat from them. | ||
| They gave me a bunch of free shit once. | ||
| Now I can go back to wearing their fucking hat. | ||
| Yeah, wear their hat. | ||
| They're good dudes. | ||
| I know them very well. | ||
| Evan Hafer, I hunt with him every year. | ||
| We go elk hunting together. | ||
| He's a great guy. | ||
| From the horse's mouth itself, you guys, they didn't fucking, you know, just miscommunication. | ||
| No, they're about as right-wing and pro-America as you get. | ||
| Yeah, Kyle Riddin is a fucking dork, though, right? | ||
| I was a kid. | ||
| 17-year-old kid. | ||
| Bro, that was on point, though. | ||
| Did you watch that video? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You want to talk about a man who fucking sits there in his underwear all day and practices reloads. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Bro, he even hit the slide. | ||
| I don't know what it's called. | ||
| You know the little butt on the AR-15 that no one even knows why it's there? | ||
| Bro, the motherfucker even hit that once he put the mat... | ||
| Fucking nuts, dude. | ||
| He knows how to use her gun. | ||
| I mean, he was being hired to go in to protect one of the businesses. | ||
| They were worried about being burnt down. | ||
| Oh, he was hired to do that? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It was his friends. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| I thought he was just like a white kid that wanted to go be a hero. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| It was an Indian family that owned, I think it was a car dealership, and they were worried about their car dealership getting burnt down, so they asked him to come and help. | ||
| No shit. | ||
| So when they say, oh, he drove across state lines, yeah, he drove 15 minutes away. | ||
| It was 15 minutes away. | ||
| He drove to help his friends. | ||
| And he went there because they were worried about their businesses being looted. | ||
| You know, obviously, who the fuck is sending a 17-year-old with an AR to go and guard a business? | ||
| It sounds insane. | ||
| You watch that guy on the subway fucking choke that dude out. | ||
| Yeah, I need to see the whole video. | ||
| I need to see, like, how long he held that choke. | ||
| Because if the guy died, like, you can't hold a choke for a minute. | ||
| So, me and me, I'm the same way. | ||
| I'm generally, like, on the Republican-leaning side, where I'm like, yeah, like, you know. | ||
| I thought the cop that killed George Floyd was guilty. | ||
| I thought that, I think that, like, I think George Floyd was probably a royal fucking piece of shit. | ||
| I don't think we should put statues in his honor, but... | ||
| In your custody, in your care. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And the fact that man's like, hey, I'm fucking dying and you're just like, my wife's fucking the neighbor. | ||
| I don't care. | ||
| I'm going to hold this joke until I feel better. | ||
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Right. | |
| So I think that guy was guilty. | ||
| But yeah, that guy on the subway, dude, 100%. | ||
| You can't like... | ||
| Yeah, but the guy was threatening people. | ||
| And the guy had a long history of assaults and crime. | ||
| But I mean, dude, you do... | ||
| Like, how long do you hold a choke to kill a man? | ||
| Well, I do jujitsu, though. | ||
| I wouldn't have done that. | ||
| Once I got the guy's back, I would have just held onto it and just not squoze his fucking neck. | ||
| I hope he gets off. | ||
| I hope he gets off. | ||
| But I don't know what happened. | ||
| Did the guy die from asphyxiation, or did the guy have a heart attack because he was on drugs? | ||
| Because this was the thing that they said about George Floyd, is that he was going to die of a fentanyl overdose anyway. | ||
| I don't know if that's true, but I don't know what the case is with this guy, but I do know that there was another guy who was holding him down that was a black guy that they conveniently left out of all these outrage articles when they tried to make it a white-on-black thing. | ||
| Yeah, dude, I'd be curious. | ||
| I'd be curious. | ||
| I will say one thing. | ||
| If it wasn't fentanyl he died of, they'll 100% guilty. | ||
| You can't hold a choke for 15 minutes. | ||
| No, you can't hold a choke, but it's also like some people don't know that. | ||
| Look, anybody can teach you how to do that. | ||
| That's not hard to do. | ||
| It's not like doing a wheel kick. | ||
| It's like a very easy movement for your body to do. | ||
| Every fucking kid, when I was a boy, when we would watch pro wrestling, they knew a sleeper hold. | ||
| Everybody knew it. | ||
| You know, so it's like if he doesn't know any better and he doesn't know that you can't hold on to a choke because he's not trained. | ||
| I know he's a Marine, but how much... | ||
| They don't teach you shit. | ||
| They don't teach you shit. | ||
| So who the fuck knows how much this guy actually knew? | ||
| When I'm looking at the way he was squeezing the neck, it didn't look like he knew what he was doing. | ||
| You know what's fucked up there, dude? | ||
| None of this cool shit ever happens to me, you guys. | ||
| I walk around the earth all day long like you're just waiting for it and I'm like fucking... | ||
| I don't think... | ||
| I think people would recognize there's something off about this guy. | ||
| Maybe I'm gonna go to the next car. | ||
| Bro, I actually almost killed a guy once. | ||
| What happened? | ||
| Gun to the head. | ||
| Gun to the head. | ||
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Fucking... | |
| Yeah, I fucking... | ||
| Thank God I didn't pull the trigger. | ||
| I was at a fucking party, dude. | ||
| Again, BB's an asshole. | ||
| My buddy goes to grab me and I fucking hip toss him and he puts a hole in the wall. | ||
| So I'm 19. I think I was going through a pretty bad court case at the time, so I was already facing two felonies on a parole. | ||
| Or I was on bail, sorry. | ||
| And the girlfriend comes downstairs and says, you gotta leave. | ||
| And I'm like, you know, alright woman, my bad, I fucked up. | ||
| Like, hey, he's your friend. | ||
| I don't even know you guys. | ||
| I was invited here. | ||
| He attacked me. | ||
| He's my buddy, but fuck it. | ||
| So anyways, as I'm walking to the door, she comes down again. | ||
| She says, my boyfriend's upstairs and you gotta pay for the wall too. | ||
| And she had this look, dude. | ||
| She had this look, kind of like scared. | ||
| So me, being a fucking fucked up sociopath, like, oh, I gotta hurt somebody. | ||
| I'm like, well, if he wants to pay for the wall, he can come fucking suck my dick and earn the money. | ||
| Next thing I know, dude, he comes out and says, fucking shotgun, fucking racks it right to my fucking head. | ||
| And mind you, dude, guys, if somebody wants to kill you, generally you're dead. | ||
| Like, if somebody puts a gun on you and you don't get the fucking, and you don't get plugged right off the back, there's a chance you're going to walk out of that one. | ||
| So you should probably just do what they say. | ||
| So anyways, I put my hands up and I'm like, I'm like begging. | ||
| I'm like, dude, please no, man. | ||
| Don't fucking shoot me, dude. | ||
| I'm so fucking sorry. | ||
| I just want to leave. | ||
| I want to leave. | ||
| And then all of a sudden I grab the gun and just fucking start slamming his head to the wall. | ||
| Boom. | ||
| Fucking falls down to him in the face. | ||
| Take the shotgun. | ||
| Point at his head. | ||
| Like, shit you not, dude. | ||
| Right when I'm about to pull the trigger, his girlfriend jumps on top of him and starts crying and like begging for his life. | ||
| So you were going to pull the trigger? | ||
| Fuck yeah. | ||
| But like... | ||
| But then it's like, it's not that. | ||
| No, the problem was, the only way I wouldn't have done it, that's a hard case to beat. | ||
| That's a hard case. | ||
| Like, you have the gun, he's defenseless. | ||
| Like, it's a hard case to beat. | ||
| Yeah, you ain't beating that case. | ||
| Ah, fuck. | ||
| I mean, maybe. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| I say I felt threatened. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| But the problem was, I was also fucking fighting two felony GBI's. | ||
| Not good. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| Fucking A, dude. | ||
| But yeah, I was going to be my first confirmed kill, you guys. | ||
| I'm kind of sad. | ||
| Never happened. | ||
| Well, I'm glad. | ||
| Come on, dude, you gotta want to smoke somebody. | ||
| You probably carry a gun. | ||
| There always be a time in your life you fucking want to die. | ||
| I would like to go to my grave without ever killing anybody. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Why? | ||
| Are you religious? | ||
| Because I don't want to be involved in that. | ||
| Well, I mean, let's just say you get one free pass. | ||
| Someone's son. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| You shouldn't raise your son not to be a fucking asshole. | ||
| Listen to you, man. | ||
| But listen to things that happen in your life and think about people that have had worse things happen to them. | ||
| I would rather go through life with minimal conflict. | ||
| That's how I started fighting again, is that I got arrested. | ||
| So I was, I mean, fucking, I'm just rammed. | ||
| It was probably about to wrap this bitch up. | ||
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But... | |
| Just rambling on about my fucking life. | ||
| Hey, what else would you guys like to know? | ||
| I lost my virginity. | ||
| He doesn't count, though. | ||
| It wasn't consensual. | ||
| But, yeah, no, fuck, man. | ||
| I got arrested when I was, like, 18. But prior to that, I was like, dude, my life sucks. | ||
| I'm sleeping on a gym. | ||
| Have you ever slept on a mat, you guys? | ||
| It's really hard on the shoulders. | ||
| You're probably sure you slept on a mat, dude. | ||
| It just kills your shoulders. | ||
| Yeah, it's not good. | ||
| After about a fucking month of sleeping on a mat, I was like, fuck my life. | ||
| This sucks. | ||
| I don't want to be fired anymore. | ||
| So I go to our recruiter. | ||
| I'm like, hey, man, you guys are supposed to be easy to get into. | ||
| I don't have a high school diploma. | ||
| How do I join you guys? | ||
| He's like, well, all you need is 15 college credits, and then you could blah, blah, blah, sign up for this, and you could get in. | ||
| So I'm like, sweet, 15 college credits? | ||
| That's only like a couple semesters a semester. | ||
| So I go sign up at a community college, get my credits. | ||
| The night I go to a party, and then that little voice in my head, a little voice in my head that tells me to fucking do something bad fucking comes in my head, and I fucking hurt two people. | ||
| I had to go get surgery. | ||
| So, facing two felony GBIs, I had to pay my lawyer, I had to pay my bail bondsman, and then King of the Cage hit me up, and they're like, hey, we have a fight in South Africa in like two weeks. | ||
| You want to go? | ||
| And I'm like, fuck yeah, I'm about to go back to jail right now. | ||
| I need money. | ||
| Fuck yes, I had to pay my bail bondsman. | ||
| So, yeah, I fucking went to take a short notice flying at South Africa, and here we are with the Joe Rogan. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Life, dude, strange, right? | ||
| It is strange. | ||
| You've been arrested, Joe? | ||
| No. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Yeah, that's fair. | ||
| It's fair? | ||
| That's fair. | ||
| Well, I mean, you know, you could always, like, tell, like, I don't know, you just paint a picture of a man. | ||
| Like, you don't, there's not really much about you, Joe. | ||
| Like, you're just Joe Rogan, the podcast man that believes in aliens and does drugs. | ||
| Like, we don't really know what makes Joe Rogan tick. | ||
| I mean, you know, Fairfax was awesome. | ||
| I watched that shit all the time when I was a fucking kid. | ||
| Shit was fucking awesome. | ||
| But what makes me tick is obviously very different than what makes you tick. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We're finding that out today. | ||
| But you gotta ask yourself. | ||
| I want you to embrace that you're a better person than you were then. | ||
| It seems like you kind of like fall back on this I'm a piece of shit thing. | ||
| It's almost like you use that as like a little bit of a shield. | ||
| Yeah, fuck yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You don't have to do that. | ||
| Because I don't think you are a piece of shit. | ||
| I don't think you are a piece of shit. | ||
| But it's also society. | ||
| What does society allow? | ||
| I think you hold on to that a little too much. | ||
| Okay, let me tell you something. | ||
| Let me tell you something. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Please tell me. | ||
| That's how I look at it. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Let's just say you believe in God. | ||
| Let's just say Joe Rogan, the Christian. | ||
| If he's Muslim, this conversation will go very differently, but we'll go Christian. | ||
| So, society allows you to be a decent human being. | ||
| But let's just say in your heart, in your heart of hearts, right? | ||
| The world ends and your fucking family's hungry and you go fucking kill your neighbor and feed them your family. | ||
| I'm assuming you would do that, right, if it came to you and your kids? | ||
| That's the plot of every apocalypse movie. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| So you would do that. | ||
| So if society is allowing you to be a decent human being, yet you are not a decent human being because you would do this if the situation had arised... | ||
| Are you a decent human being with who you are? | ||
| I think you have to take into consideration all the experiences that you've had in your life. | ||
| And I don't think it's as simple as, are you a good human being or are you a bad human being? | ||
| Here's the thing. | ||
| Are you a better human being than you used to be? | ||
| 100%. | ||
| Did you get through one of the most horrific childhood stories that I've ever had anybody talk about? | ||
| 100%. | ||
| And you can't expect someone to come out of that and be a monk. | ||
| You can't expect that. | ||
| Just the sheer amount of trauma that you've experienced, like you were talking about PTSD, 100% you've got that. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| The sheer amount of trauma. | ||
| And I think you hold the, I'm a piece of shit, and you hold that up as a shield to sort of protect yourself and give yourself a way out of things. | ||
| You know what it is too, man? | ||
| I have such little... | ||
| I have such a little respect for humanity. | ||
| And this sounds like, again, I love life. | ||
| I'm happy. | ||
| I have good friends. | ||
| My girlfriend's amazing. | ||
| Right, but you have respect for some aspects of humanity. | ||
| You have respect for some people. | ||
| But people just suck. | ||
| But you have respect for some people. | ||
| Some people don't suck. | ||
| Curtis doesn't suck. | ||
| You have friends that don't suck. | ||
| Dude, I almost broke up with my girlfriend once. | ||
| I shit you not, dude. | ||
| I'm so fucking mad at her, dude. | ||
| I'm so fucking mad at her. | ||
| We're walking. | ||
| And I was like, babe, I want to get to know you a little better. | ||
| I want to get to know you a little better. | ||
| I was like, what would have happened if I were to kill somebody? | ||
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What? | |
| She said, I'll call the cops. | ||
| And I was like, you have a magic wand, and you can make it go away. | ||
| Guy's still fucking dead, fucking kids are still orphaned, but you can make it go away. | ||
| Would you wave your fucking wand? | ||
| She said, nah, I'd put you in jail. | ||
| Well, she's a girl. | ||
| First of all, A, you're not supposed to ask those questions. | ||
| Because you're painting a scenario that's impossible. | ||
| It was like a week. | ||
| It was like a fucking week of me and her mad at her. | ||
| Then she's mad at me. | ||
| She's like, you really are going to leave me for that? | ||
| I'm like, babe, I'm not saying this could happen, but like, okay, for instance, I use a scenario. | ||
| We were walking. | ||
| We were fucking. | ||
| And I was like, babe, you need to understand this could happen. | ||
| Chris Curtis is fighting in a fucking, I don't know where he was, Florida. | ||
| And there's this homeless guy walking and then Chris Curtis and Chris Curtis's wife or girlfriend, whatever the fuck she is, right? | ||
| Baby's mama, whatever you want to call her, is walking and this homeless guy on drugs veers off and starts following him. | ||
| We're probably 20 yards behind him. | ||
| And they start walking in this alleyway. | ||
| Clearly, if you were there, the guy's fucking following them. | ||
| And me being a sociopath, I'm like, I'm going to kill this motherfucker right now. | ||
| We're in a dark alleyway. | ||
| I'm going to spike this motherfucker's head on the ground. | ||
| And we're going to fucking just be on our merry way. | ||
| And we have two attractive women to be our witnesses. | ||
| So, I'm walking, all of a sudden Kurt sees it and starts running at him. | ||
| And I'm like, Kurt, what the fuck, dude? | ||
| We were about to fucking kill this guy. | ||
| And now I'm starting to think I'm a piece of shit. | ||
| Now I'm starting to think, man, did you just use your woman as bait to kill a man? | ||
| Because I'm thinking everything is fine. | ||
| Everything is fine. | ||
| He's probably just a crazy motherfucker. | ||
| He's probably just going to go grab their ass and make excuses to spike his fucking head on the ground. | ||
| So I'm really mad at Chris Curtis now. | ||
| I'm like, you motherfucker, dude. | ||
| You've ruined this. | ||
| You've ruined our opportunity. | ||
| But that's also easy to say when it didn't happen. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| But again, in my brain, it's like... | ||
| But you keep saying you hate humanity, but you don't. | ||
| Well, I don't hate... | ||
| No, I just know what we are. | ||
| You love some people. | ||
| I know what we are. | ||
| But you love quality people. | ||
| The problem is you just don't have a wealth of them in your life, and you haven't had a wealth of them in your life. | ||
| You've had a very small number of them that you only met once you started fighting. | ||
| So I gave my girl that story, and she was like, I was like, that's what I'm saying, babe. | ||
| Like, there's a situation where this could happen, and I might need you to embellish the truth. | ||
| But that's not even embellishing. | ||
| That's self-defense. | ||
| If someone actually does attack your girl. | ||
| But it was like, you know, it would have been pushed. | ||
| That's the most justifiable thing ever. | ||
| I mean, what would you do, man? | ||
| Your wife fucking... | ||
| 100% would do what you just said. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| What if your wife does something just fucked up? | ||
| What if she has, like... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I'm trying to think of a scenario. | ||
| What if she fucking shoots the mailman on accident and you can make a wand and it may go away? | ||
| Would you do it? | ||
| That's a good question. | ||
| Good question. | ||
| Fuck yeah, you'd do it? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, you'd do it? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So does that make you a decent human being? | ||
| Well... | ||
| There's sometimes people who make compromises. | ||
| And sometimes people have to make very difficult choices. | ||
| Doesn't necessarily mean you're a bad human being, but it's not a good choice. | ||
| It's not a good situation to be in either. | ||
| I'd hide the body. | ||
| I'd go get a sawzall and fucking... | ||
| Vegas is big, man. | ||
| A lot of fucking desert. | ||
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Oh, man. | |
| How many holes are out in that desert? | ||
| Fuck. | ||
| That was hilarious when Lake Mead started shrinking and they started finding all these bodies. | ||
| Fuck, dude. | ||
| They found a ton of bodies in fucking oil drums and shit. | ||
| Fuck. | ||
| Dude, I cannot imagine. | ||
| I was on a hike the other day in Vegas. | ||
| You know, my chick likes to... | ||
| I hate fucking hiking, dude. | ||
| Fucking hiking. | ||
| You like the hiking? | ||
| Well, you like to go hunt shit. | ||
| I could do that. | ||
| Like, you want to go grab a gun and walk through the... | ||
| I could go do that, man. | ||
| But just, like, wandering through the fucking desert. | ||
| I'm like, oh, there's a fucking rock. | ||
| There's a fucking desert. | ||
| Some people do it because they need to get out in nature, and they just like to get a little exercise. | ||
| Men only hike, dude, because in the back of our brains, we think there's going to be a waterfall with fucking naked women underneath it. | ||
| That's the only reason. | ||
| Good luck finding that in Vegas. | ||
| And the moment you realize, dude, there's no waterfall with fucking pussy underneath it, you're going to be like, this sucks. | ||
| Why the fuck am I doing this? | ||
| Some people like hiking. | ||
| They didn't grow up like you. | ||
| Fuck if you, who like, dude, you just, it's the same shit over and over again. | ||
| Yeah, but it's a peaceful thing for some people. | ||
| They just like that walking. | ||
| Yeah, but you don't count. | ||
| You fucking do DMT and laying boat tanks and shit. | ||
| You're a fucking hippie. | ||
| Yeah, I am a little bit of a hippie. | ||
| But it's different people, man. | ||
| Different people, they come from different walks of life, different circumstances, and they have... | ||
| I don't think you're a bad guy, Sean. | ||
| No, I'm not a bad guy. | ||
| No, for sure I'm not. | ||
| I think you use that as a little bit of a crutch. | ||
| Fuck it. | ||
| I mean, it's nice. | ||
| But I do know that if someone did fuck with you, you would spike them on the head. | ||
| Yeah, fuck it. | ||
| That, too. | ||
| Well, the shitty thing is, as we talk about this, it's going to be a really hard case for me to fucking beat. | ||
| Right, if something happened. | ||
| This is going to be fucking used as court. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| What I'm saying, you guys, I just recently found Jesus Christ. | ||
| That's the move. | ||
| Bro, you know, it's funny. | ||
| Speaking of religion. | ||
| So, I make fun of fucking everybody. | ||
| Jews and Muslims, everybody. | ||
| But Muslims are fucking nuts, dude. | ||
| They get very, very, very, very upset if you talk any shit about Islam. | ||
| So, there was a guy named Albert DeRove. | ||
| And, like, we have a lot of Muslims at the gym. | ||
| And I fucking love these guys, dude. | ||
| Like, they're fucking, you know, they're fucking solid motherfuckers. | ||
| So one day, Albert Durov, I mean, I would go hard on Muhammad, like, everything that you weren't supposed to do, I'm like, well, let me show you this doodle I said. | ||
| Oh, Jesus Christ. | ||
| Hey, Twitter, check this out, right? | ||
| I don't give a fuck, it's America. | ||
| So, one day, fucking, you know, Albert Durov comes up to me and he was like, hey, Sean, can I talk to you? | ||
| I thought he was going to show me a move. | ||
| Albert Durov is a great wrestler. | ||
| So, I'm like, alright, sure, I'll be your wrestling dummy for all these little Muslims coming to the cage. | ||
| And they're like, and I go to, like, get on, like, what, we didn't guard? | ||
| What position are we in here, Albert? | ||
| He's like, no, no, no, no, sit down, sit down, Sean. | ||
| I'm like, oh, fuck me. | ||
| He puts his hand on my leg. | ||
| Muslims, dude, are super touchy-feely. | ||
| It's so fucking weird, man. | ||
| Like, fucking... | ||
| You ever hang out with a bunch of Muslim guys? | ||
| It's like, fucking... | ||
| They're friendly. | ||
| Super friendly, guys. | ||
| Super fucking friendly. | ||
| It's so odd, especially because of religion. | ||
| So he's like, Sean, Sean, Sean. | ||
| In my country, I cannot be friends with you. | ||
| I'm like, what are you fucking talking about? | ||
| He's like, you say things about Islam that... | ||
| Pretty much saying that I cannot be friends with you because what you say about Islam. | ||
| I'd make fun of Jews, Christians, fucking Scientologists. | ||
| I'd make fun of everybody. | ||
| So after that, they fucking, after he caressed my leg and rubbed my head a little bit, I was like, fuck it, dude, I'm gonna lay off Islam. | ||
| So Albert Durov is why I fucking, you know, I give Islam a fucking pass, which makes me a sellout, but... | ||
| No, it doesn't. | ||
| Listen, man, there's fights that you should pick, and it's not necessary. | ||
| It's like, also, it's like that belief system helps people, keeps them disciplined, keeps them on a good path. | ||
| I mean, how many great fighters are like devout Muslims? | ||
| It's a pretty high percentage. | ||
| I mean, it's one of the most popular religions in the world. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| It's one of the most popular religions in the world, but it's also, it's a religion that embraces discipline. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| I mean, you go through Ramadan, you're not eating all day, you're not drinking any water all day. | ||
| I mean, the fact that guys... | ||
| But it's also not really compatible with American values. | ||
| It's not compatible with some aspects of American values, especially when it comes to women, gay rights, things along those lines. | ||
| Well, I mean, it sounds reasonable to me. | ||
| There was a God, and God and his rightful wisdom, you know, as he created the earth and he created the people, he said, these fucking whores, we need to cover this stuff. | ||
| I mean, that sounds fucking reasonable to me. | ||
| I mean, I just said, I don't want women working. | ||
| Maybe I'm a fucking Muslim, you guys. | ||
| I like pork, though. | ||
| God damn it. | ||
| Well, you said you don't want women working because you recognize the importance of a mother's role. | ||
| It is a job. | ||
| It's just not a job that pays money. | ||
| Because of that, it doesn't get supported. | ||
| The fact that raising a kid is a fucking insanely difficult proposition. | ||
| And the fact that we expect people to raise kids while they also are doing, you know, a job, a fucking eight-hour-a-day job, and then commuting and being exhausted. | ||
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Did your mom work? | |
| My mom worked, yeah. | ||
| My mom was a secretary. | ||
| Okay, what did your stepdad do? | ||
| He was an architect. | ||
| Oh, fuck. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So you were fine? | ||
| Well, he went through school when I was a kid. | ||
| So, like, we were poor. | ||
| When I was young, we were very poor. | ||
| Welfare, food stamps, the whole deal. | ||
| And then, as I was in high school, he started making money. | ||
| How old are you when you're like, hey, I want to be a comedian? | ||
| 21. 21? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Did you go to college? | ||
| You think about doing stand-up? | ||
|
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No. | |
| I think you do a little bit. | ||
| I don't try to be funny. | ||
| I just am retarded. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, gym funny is a funny kind of funny. | ||
| That's how I got into comedy. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| By making people laugh in the gym. | ||
| It's locker room talk on steroids. | ||
| Locker room talk on steroids. | ||
| Also, it's gallows talk, too, because everyone's sparring. | ||
| There's a lot of nerves. | ||
| It's easy to crack the ice. | ||
| It's fun. | ||
| Oh man, Dominic Cruz has a fucking weird gem. | ||
| I'm sure you know Dominic Cruz. | ||
| Alliance? | ||
| Yeah, Alliance. | ||
| He's also in a cult, by the way. | ||
| Khalil Roundtree's in a cult, too. | ||
| What do you mean? | ||
| They're in a cult? | ||
| Yeah, they're like in a weird fucking cult. | ||
| What cult? | ||
| I can't stand Khalil Roundtree. | ||
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What? | |
| I love that guy. | ||
| God, this fucking... | ||
| Because he doesn't know these people intimately. | ||
| Well, I love talking to him. | ||
| I enjoy talking to him a couple times. | ||
| He's a dirty fucking feminist. | ||
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What? | |
| I'll tell you a story. | ||
| I can't stand this fucking guy. | ||
| You seem to not like most people. | ||
| It's like you and Chris Curtis against the world. | ||
| Well, I'll tell you why. | ||
| I'll tell you why. | ||
| So, I used to run a wrestling class at a gym I was at. | ||
| And somebody invited around. | ||
| I'm like, God damn it. | ||
| Why'd you invite this guy? | ||
| He's just a fucking pussy. | ||
| So, we're training, right? | ||
| And guys, I give some good speeches. | ||
| I give some good fucking... | ||
| I give some good, hot, raw speeches. | ||
| So, I'm like, when you guys are wrestling, you gotta pick the fucking baddest motherfucker and you gotta go with him. | ||
| And if I see you going Khalil around, I know that's not what you fucking did. | ||
| You're being a pussy. | ||
| So I said that speech as like a rah-rah moment for Khalil to be like, fuck you, Sean. | ||
| I'll show you. | ||
| I'm going to show you fucking what's up. | ||
| And I thought it was going to make him step up and fuck me up. | ||
| But instead, he stormed off the mat. | ||
| He just fucking walked off the mat. | ||
| And he was like, Sean, I don't respect you. | ||
| I don't really like you. | ||
| I'm like, yeah, because you're a fucking feminist pussy in a cult. | ||
| What cult are you? | ||
| You keep saying cult. | ||
| So there's this weird Las Vegas... | ||
| Don't quote me on this, dude. | ||
| I heard somebody was telling me Dominic Cruz was in it, but I don't want to fucking... | ||
| Dominic Cruz did fuck a chick I was into when I was 16, so I'm so salty at him. | ||
| You know, like the hottest... | ||
| Like, you know the hottest... | ||
| I think she became a stripper. | ||
| Oh, you were 16. You're still holding a grudge. | ||
| I was like 17. Oh, that's hilarious. | ||
| And it was like, you know like that one when you... | ||
| Half your life ago. | ||
| We know when you get the hottest piece of ass ever. | ||
| I'm like a kid, dude. | ||
| This girl, she's a little older than me. | ||
| She's like a little model. | ||
| I'm like the fucking best piece of ass I've ever got in my life. | ||
| Sex with her on the beach, Laguna. | ||
| It was awesome, right? | ||
| It's actually kind of funny. | ||
| I was having sex with her on the beach and there was like a... | ||
| A fish run. | ||
| Camera flashes all down the beach. | ||
| And yes, I did not stop. | ||
| But continue. | ||
| Back to my story. | ||
| So I'm so salty because later in life, I mean, he's like, he's on his road to being a fucking champ. | ||
| He might have been a champ at the time. | ||
| So she went over there and started fucking him. | ||
| What is this cult thing that you keep talking about? | ||
| Let me tell you, but they laid in bed. | ||
| She was like, he's such a, I'm so, I hate myself for knowing this. | ||
| I hate my, but I'm going to tell you guys. | ||
| If I know it, you guys need to know it. | ||
| Because she's such a weirdo. | ||
| He just lays in bed and watches fucking fight videos and plays with the cats all day. | ||
| And I'm like, well, fucking A, man. | ||
| That's how you become great. | ||
| That's how you become great. | ||
| That's why I'm not fucking you anymore. | ||
| What does that have to do with being in a cult? | ||
| So anyways, fast forward. | ||
| I just want to tell you the fucking story. | ||
| Okay, sorry. | ||
| Yeah, this is good. | ||
| Fucking your fans like fighting. | ||
| Yeah, you guys know Dominic Cruz is a fucking weirdo and he stole my chick. | ||
| Fucking dweeb, right? | ||
| Fuck him. | ||
| I love that dude too. | ||
| I actually really like Dominic Cruz. | ||
| He's awesome. | ||
| I talk to him every time I do pre-fight media. | ||
| He's there. | ||
| I love Dominic Cruz. | ||
| Fuck you, dude. | ||
| Anyway, so there's like this weird, like, church or like, like, it's like a self-help cult. | ||
| And one day, one day, like, Khalil came and like took somebody out of training and was like, oh, I don't want to, like, the kid didn't want to fucking go. | ||
| Chris Curtis is the witness to this. | ||
| And the kid didn't want to go and like, it was kind of like a weird abduction situation. | ||
| Yeah, he's like in like a, like a self-help weird group. | ||
| But no, no, you guys, let me tell you guys about Khalil. | ||
| If you knew him on a personal level, you would fucking hate him. | ||
| Unless you're a dirty feminist. | ||
| There is this girl named Alina. | ||
| Alina, she's a PFL girl. | ||
| True story about Khalil. | ||
| Let me tell you why I hate Khalil. | ||
| Tell me why. | ||
| Alina, PFL girl, shaved her head. | ||
| Kind of looks like a man now, but, you know, whatever. | ||
| She had to make weight, I guess. | ||
| So, Alina, dude, she's like fucking 5'10 big, dude. | ||
| She's big, dude. | ||
| She's big, dude. | ||
| She's not a sexual predator. | ||
| I mean, she looks like she could be a sexual predator. | ||
| So, Khalil Roundtree is showing somebody a move. | ||
| And she walks up to Alina, a Ukrainian girl, and puts her in a move. | ||
| And the Ukrainian girl, who looks like a fucking... | ||
| I mean, dude, she looks like a... | ||
| You guys Google her, anyways. | ||
| She's like, oh, sexual harassment. | ||
| But she said it jokingly. | ||
| And like, if you see her, it's funny. | ||
| And Roundtree's like, that is not funny. | ||
| I'm a black man in America. | ||
| You cannot even joke about that. | ||
| And we're all like, black guys, white guys, we're all sitting like, dude, Cleo, what the fuck is your problem, bro? | ||
| Like, it's a joke, man. | ||
| But yeah, he's just a fucking girl, dude. | ||
| Like, on a personal level, you guys don't want to hang out with that fucking girl. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I like him. | ||
| I enjoy talking to him. | ||
| But I'm not in that situation with him. | ||
| You're gonna tell him that you don't want transgenders in the sport, and next thing you know, he's gonna fucking accuse you of touching him under the desk. | ||
| Really? | ||
| No, I mean, he's a feminist. | ||
| Is he, like, a self-proclaimed feminist? | ||
| Yeah, like, he's just, like... | ||
| I think people say things like that sometimes because they think it's a good thing to say. | ||
| I'm going to tell you guys another insight. | ||
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Oh, let's not. | |
| Let's not. | ||
| No, it's great. | ||
| Please. | ||
| It's great, Joe. | ||
| It's great. | ||
| Because the guy's not here to defend himself. | ||
| No, this is factual. | ||
| This is factual. | ||
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Okay. | |
| All right. | ||
| I was hitting on a chick once, and he ended up dating this chick. | ||
| So this is before I knew Khalil kind of sucked. | ||
| And I go, yo, Khalil, like, you salty motherfucker, man. | ||
| I was talking to that girl, and, like, you ended up snagging her up. | ||
| Like, you motherfucker. | ||
| I'm jealous. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He goes to the PI, and I guess this is after they broke up, so I thought like a couple years pass, it would be funny now if I tell him that like, you know, you fucking snagged her from me. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And then a couple years pass, and I tell him this, and he goes to the PI, and he files a complaint in the Performance Institute that I brought this up and I made him feel like uncomfortable or sad. | ||
| Oh, Jesus. | ||
| And the guy, the guy at the time around the PI, he had to come up to me. | ||
| He was like, yeah, man, Sean, I got to tell you this. | ||
| Like, you know, I can't tell you who it was. | ||
| And I'm like, dude, it was funny. | ||
| Like, everybody in the physical therapy team was laughing. | ||
| Like, it was fucking funny. | ||
| It wasn't bad. | ||
| So, yeah, you're right. | ||
| Khalil's a great guy, guys. | ||
| Fuck yeah. | ||
| I love Khalil. | ||
| I know what you're saying. | ||
| I know what you're saying. | ||
| Your sense of humor with a sensitive person can create real problems. | ||
| But I didn't know that people make formal complaints at the Ultimate Fighting Championship Performance Institute. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| That seems crazy. | ||
| I even asked the PT team. | ||
| I'm like, guys, did I like... | ||
| Because, you know, I'm an asshole and I say a lot of crazy shit. | ||
| I'm like, did I go overboard? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Sometimes. | ||
| Khalil's a very sensitive guy. | ||
| And I think, you know, he's gone through these journeys where he's all in and fighting. | ||
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Shut up, mom. | |
| And then not all in and fighting. | ||
| That was actually really funny, by the way, when he told his mom to shut up when she was, like, coaching him. | ||
| He, like, looked over. | ||
| Shut up, mom. | ||
| Oh, did he? | ||
| Yeah, he didn't see that? | ||
| He was, like, mid-fight, bro. | ||
| He, like, told his mom, shut up, mom. | ||
| That is distracting. | ||
| Your mom screaming. | ||
| Was it at the Apex Center? | ||
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Oh, fuck. | |
| No, I think it was, like, a big fight. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Fuck me, dude. | ||
| But yeah, I guess I'm just a cunt, dude. | ||
| There also is that, you guys. | ||
| Listen, I like you, but I get people like you. | ||
| I've been around people like you my whole life. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| I know what it's like. | ||
| You know, there's a lot of people like you out there in the world. | ||
| As long as you understand what a person like you's been through and who you are, it's fun. | ||
| I mean, Khalil, again, the thing about Khalil... | ||
| I think you make life a little more fun. | ||
| Cleo might be the first trans female athlete in the UFC. Jesus Christ, stop it. | ||
| He's already fucking sensitive. | ||
| That's one thing that I'm happy the UFC would never allow. | ||
| Oh, dude. | ||
| Every time I go on the news, I think Joe Rogan's a bigot hating on the trans community. | ||
| What the fuck is going on with people allowing biological men to compete against women? | ||
| I mean, out of all the sensitive shit, I'm a pretty sensitive person. | ||
| I'm pretty open-minded, but... | ||
| Somebody sent me a video of a guy in a dress with a hard-on in a bathroom. | ||
| Have you seen that video? | ||
| Taking photos of women? | ||
| Have you ever trained with a woman? | ||
| So you know Gabby Garcia? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I trained with her once. | ||
| And I was like, fuck. | ||
| Before we trained, I told the coach, dude, am I going to have to fuck this chick up? | ||
| Dude, she's bigger than me. | ||
| She's huge. | ||
| And I was like, am I going to have to fuck this chick up? | ||
| And she's on all the Mexican supplements. | ||
| Her fucking clit is probably bigger than this fucking can. | ||
| You know? | ||
| I'm like, am I going to have to fuck this chick up? | ||
| And he starts laughing. | ||
| I'm rolling with her. | ||
| And then she was just weak. | ||
| Like, she just felt like a fat chick. | ||
| And after that, I was like, oh, fuck. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There's a weird thing going on in this culture with gender. | ||
| And it's not good. | ||
| You know, it is. | ||
| There's no more battles, man. | ||
| Women are working. | ||
| There's no more racism. | ||
| I mean, there's still racism. | ||
| But, you know, it's equality. | ||
| Like, people just need something to fight over. | ||
| Well, it's also an easy way where you can become special. | ||
| I mean, New Jersey just said that there was a 4,000% increase in kids identifying as non-binary. | ||
| First of all, what the fuck does that even mean? | ||
| And allowing someone to say they're non-binary to me is like, listen, you don't have to embrace masculinity and you don't have to embrace femininity. | ||
| You don't have to. | ||
| But you got a dick or you got a vagina. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| I mean, we're making people special with no effort. | ||
| And if you just say you're a they and a them and everybody has to say that, and if they don't say that, you can yell at them, which is what, you know... | ||
| I'm surprised you don't toe the line, dude. | ||
| I'm shocked that you take that opinion. | ||
| Fuck that line. | ||
| Because that's crazy. | ||
| The line of biological males competing against females, that's the line. | ||
| This is a true story, man. | ||
| I was at Team Quest and there was a transgender, I don't know what the fuck you'd call him. | ||
| A woman? | ||
| Male to female? | ||
| He had a dick and he wore a dress. | ||
| Whatever the fuck you'd call him. | ||
| And this fucking guy, dude, he would go spar. | ||
| And my girlfriend, my ex-girlfriend at the time, would go spar these women and, like, break their fucking noses and, like, fuck them up. | ||
| There's a lot of that. | ||
| There's a lot of that. | ||
| Or, like, they would go fucking... | ||
| He would go in the locker room. | ||
| He has a family. | ||
| He had, you know, later on in transition, he had a fucking family. | ||
| Go in the locker room, you know, my girlfriend and their big titties. | ||
| My ex with their big titties hanging out. | ||
| Right, and they're walking around with their dick hanging out. | ||
| Oh, I'd fuck him up. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| It's crazy that... | ||
| First of all, there's a thing called autogynephilia. | ||
| It's a real thing. | ||
| And it's a thing where there's a fetish where men get sexually aroused by pretending that their women are dressing up like women, but they want to fuck women. | ||
| And so they're heterosexual. | ||
| So they want to have sex with females, but they identify as a female for this kink. | ||
| And, you know, there's also trans people that, for whatever reason, nature threw them a curveball. | ||
| They're in the wrong body. | ||
| But you can't fucking compete against women. | ||
| It's not fair in any way, shape, or form. | ||
| Every now and then you'll meet kids, right? | ||
| And, like, masculine father, and you're like, oh man, that kid's gonna be gay for sure. | ||
| Like, you meet kids, dude, and they already got the list, but it's like, dude, you're like fucking 10 years old and your dad's in the military. | ||
| Yeah, but gay is normal. | ||
| Gay is just nature. | ||
| So that's another thing, dude. | ||
| I'm pro. | ||
| Like, I'm pro. | ||
| Like, dude, if you're a dude and you want to suck a dick, go suck that dick, dude. | ||
| Suck all the dick. | ||
| I know. | ||
| You said that about if you had a kid. | ||
| I thought that was hilarious. | ||
| Like, don't get me wrong. | ||
| If I have a kid and I think he's gay, I'm going to do everything I can to make this kid not fucking gay. | ||
| I'm going to... | ||
| I might even take him to therapy. | ||
| If he has a list and starts walking around like this, dude, I don't want to fucking gay as a kid. | ||
| But that's reasonable. | ||
| If you talk to gay dudes, you talk to gay dudes, and gay dudes don't want gays as a kid. | ||
| Being gay is fucking hard, man. | ||
| But if at some point my kid turns 18 and he's like, Dad, I like to suck dick, I'm like, kid, suck all that dick you want. | ||
| Get the white dick, get the black dick, get the yellow dick, all the dick, dude. | ||
| Get a boyfriend. | ||
| Hopefully I like him, dude. | ||
| It'll be an interesting Thanksgiving. | ||
| Well, this is the weird thing about this whole LGBTQ like coalition, like a group of people all connected together because a lot of my friends who are gay, they don't like what's going on with this movement because they think that a lot of people who just would be gay are getting convinced into becoming trans. | ||
| They're getting convinced into becoming that they really are a man trapped in a woman's body. | ||
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But you know we're losing, right? | |
| You know we're going to lose this fight. | ||
| I don't know about that. | ||
| Oh, we're going to lose this fight for sure. | ||
| What does that mean? | ||
| So it's like... | ||
| You gotta understand, dude. | ||
| They're gonna look back at us as like we're gonna be the old racist white guy. | ||
| We're gonna be the old racist white guy on the porch saying, I remember my day when fucking black people couldn't go to school. | ||
| That's how we're gonna be viewed. | ||
| I remember my day when chicks had vaginas and dicks and dudes had dicks. | ||
| Eventually, this is what the system wants. | ||
| This is what the system gets. | ||
| I don't think the system wants anything. | ||
| I don't think that's what's going on. | ||
| I think there's what I said earlier. | ||
| I think there's an out. | ||
| And I think there's also a lot of people that are teaching school that don't have children of their own and that also they get social value and social brownie points for embracing gender ideology because it's the like... | ||
| But how many generations until we lose? | ||
| How many generations until... | ||
| Depends on what happens. | ||
| This is the question. | ||
| Are we at the fall of an empire? | ||
| Because if we are at the fall of an empire, I've talked about this before, but Douglas Murray, who's a British intellectual, who's also gay, by the way, he says that at the end of every empire, they become obsessed with gender. | ||
| And that is one very weird thing that I never saw coming. | ||
| If you came to me just fucking ten years ago and said that gender and transgender ideology would be the thing that the president would be talking, he'd be sitting there with Dylan Mulvaney getting interviewed. | ||
| Day 365 of womanhood! | ||
| Imagine! | ||
| That's like fighting in the UFC you started training a year ago. | ||
| Like, you're interviewing the fucking president? | ||
| You've only been a woman a year? | ||
| What about all these other actual biological women that are running around that have been a woman their whole life? | ||
| And you get in only because you're... | ||
| You could be a woman of the year and not have a dick, bro. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| There's a reason why men are better than women. | ||
| Look, we even make fucking better women. | ||
| Well, Caitlyn Jenner was like woman of the year six months into being a woman. | ||
| The whole thing is nuts. | ||
| And it's... | ||
| Again, it is a way where people become special without doing any work at all. | ||
| But I'm saying your kids' kids will... | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I think it's turning around. | ||
| I think people are pushing back against it now because they're realizing how fucking insane it is. | ||
| But there's certain people that are just lost in the trance and they're just pushing it. | ||
| Are these people like, are they 14 year olds? | ||
| Are they kids? | ||
| No, they're adults. | ||
| Yeah, but young kids too. | ||
| I see it with young kids today too. | ||
| There's a lot of young kids that are pushing back against this. | ||
| I remember, dude. | ||
| I remember when I was a fucking kid, dude. | ||
| When I was a kid, there were still hate crimes against gays. | ||
| I'm 32, you guys, so it was fucking weird. | ||
| I'm sure there's still hate crimes against gays today. | ||
| Again, there's hate crimes against gays. | ||
| There's always shit, but it was common practice. | ||
| It was like, we bullied the fuck out of gays. | ||
| I remember there was one kid I wrote, he wouldn't let me cut in the lunch line. | ||
| I mean, my buddy literally pinned him against the wrong rule, fag on his white shirt, and ended up being gay. | ||
| Like, crazy progress, man. | ||
| Progress in the last 10 years. | ||
| Again, I'm like, you guys, I was an angry, hateful fucking kid, you know? | ||
| Like, if I could go back, I'd fucking wave my wand on what'll fucking happen, you know? | ||
| Do I feel bad? | ||
| Probably not, but I was an angry, like, cause and effect. | ||
| But man, the amount of progress that happened for the gays in such a short period of time, wild. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And, you know, I think a lot of people think that amount of progress has happened for the trans movement too, but I think what has to happen is things go too far and then they even out. | ||
| And then what's really going to be a fucking long string of lawsuits, which is 100% coming, Is these de-transitioners. | ||
| These people that were forced to transition or encouraged to transition when they were kids. | ||
| Which is fucking insane. | ||
| When I hear people talking about hormone blockers being reversible, like what- but what- at what cost? | ||
| Like what is gonna happen? | ||
| Like there's a lot of people out there that no longer can have children. | ||
| They don't have their penis anymore. | ||
| They don't have their ovaries anymore. | ||
| They cut their breasts off. | ||
| It's social media. | ||
| I'll tell you what, social media is a fucking plague of the earth. | ||
| Everybody wants to be special. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| To transition, it's a way to be special. | ||
| To support that, it's a way to be special. | ||
| And you immediately get love because of it. | ||
| And it's a way to become special without putting in any work. | ||
| Right now, if I put a fucking wig on, and I said, I mean, look at all these Navy SEALs that fucking cut their dick off, or the next thing you know, they become specials. | ||
| How many Navy Seals are cutting their dick out? | ||
| Have you ever watched that one, dude? | ||
| Kristen Beck. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Been on the podcast before. | ||
| He threatened that... | ||
| But went back to being a man again. | ||
| He threatened that little Jewish kid. | ||
| What's that little... | ||
| Jim Ben Shapiro. | ||
| Oh, that one. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| I would love if that shit happened to me. | ||
| I'd be like, all right. | ||
| I felt the same way. | ||
| I never smacked a woman, but... | ||
| I'm gonna count this as a woman. | ||
| Yeah, that one was nuts. | ||
| Threatening him because he was saying that he's a man. | ||
| But what I'm saying though, it's like, dude, everybody wants to be special. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| I'm like pseudo-famous. | ||
| But you're becoming special through hard work, so you understand what it's like to be special. | ||
| Everybody wants to be special, but they don't want to fucking, not everybody wants to work. | ||
| And if there's a pathway for young kids, especially this generation where everybody wants a quick fix for everything, if there's an instantaneous pathway for you to become special, all you have to do is make your hair blue and say you're a they and you wear a dress to school. | ||
| I gotta ask something before we run out of time. | ||
| What about affirmative action ending? | ||
| How do you feel about that? | ||
| I don't think... | ||
| Oh, CNN. It's either CNN's gonna love you or hate you. | ||
| No, fuck CNN. I don't think that's... | ||
| I don't think that's the solution. | ||
| I don't think affirmative action is the solution. | ||
| I think the solution is what we talked about earlier. | ||
| Finding these impoverished, crime-ridden communities, whether it's white people in Appalachia, where they're all on fucking pills, or whether it's black people that live in Baltimore, or Puerto Ricans that live in the Bronx. | ||
| Whatever the fuck it is, we have impoverished communities. | ||
| We can't just leave them alone. | ||
| We can't just let... | ||
| That's where everything's fucked. | ||
| They should elevate the quality of education, elevate the quality of life, and it should be a gigantic project that the whole country gets behind. | ||
| That's what I think is the way to fix things. | ||
| Well, I mean, systematic oppression is a real thing. | ||
| It's a real thing. | ||
| On white people and black people. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Like, I always tell people, man... | ||
| Like, it's actually kind of funny. | ||
| I got a shitstorm because I said... | ||
| what's his name he's a d1 wrestler black guy and i said he was like the white and i made fun of him for not being black what the fuck's his name phil haas i said like phil haas went and trained with me and like he was such a pussy like he was like he was like i was like hey man like you're a middleweight i'm a middleweight let's like bang a little bit he's like sean are you sure are you sure you want to spar hard i'm like yeah dude let's fucking fucking fight and you're an unusual guy you You have to understand, like, just that alone. | ||
| How many guys are, like, just banging all day for training? | ||
| So, anyway, he quit. | ||
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How many guys? | |
| Think about what your style is. | ||
| But listen, my segue to that. | ||
| I used to train at a black gym at Millennia with Lorenz Larkin. | ||
| One of my... | ||
| Jonathan. | ||
| I mean, one guy had a fucking bullet. | ||
| That's a great gym. | ||
| Every time you'd grab his arm, he'd be like, oh, you're moving my fucking bullet. | ||
| He got shot in San Bernardino. | ||
| So my experience with black people were, like... | ||
| Hardcore. | ||
| Hardcore. | ||
| Like, I was the white, I was the fucking, like, when you get arrested, you guys, at least in California, whenever you get walked to your cell, they segregate the whites and the blacks and the Mexicans. | ||
| Whites and Mexicans roll together, blacks roll separate. | ||
| They're segregated, at least in the county I was in. | ||
| And bro, you walk by this fucking cage. | ||
| You walk by this cage and you've got these black people. | ||
| And that's how kind of millennia we're in mind. | ||
| We've got these black people crowning the bars with their fucking big old beard, like talking shit to you. | ||
| I remember, I forget, dude, I got in my jail cell and there was a guy named Spider and he's like laying down. | ||
| He's helping me make my bed. | ||
| He's laying down the rules. | ||
| I told him, I was like, dude, I'm not racist, dude. | ||
| I don't hate anybody. | ||
| I told this guy this. | ||
| He's like, yeah, that's not how it works here, man. | ||
| It's either you're with us or you're with nobody. | ||
| And I start thinking about walking past that. | ||
| Walking past that black segregation. | ||
| And I'm like, you know what, man? | ||
| I'm going to have to put some thought on this, but I think I might be. | ||
| I don't think I'll be getting any tattoos anytime soon, but I think I might be riding with you guys. | ||
| So anyways, that's kind of how Millennia was. | ||
| I walk in there and I'd fucking be like the little white kid with long hair. | ||
| The Tarzan days. | ||
| The Tarzan powder. | ||
| And I got the shit kicked out of me by these black guys. | ||
| And I'll never forget this black guy comes up to me once. | ||
| Actually, Jonathan Wilson, I got the bullet in his arm. | ||
| He goes, Sean, it doesn't matter how nice you are to me. | ||
| You could walk in here and fucking, you know, be nice to me, ask me on my days. | ||
| I'm going to fuck you up regardless. | ||
| And I was like, and that's kind of when it hit me. | ||
| Like, oh yeah, like, I got to go in there. | ||
| I got to get the big dick. | ||
| I got to get the big black metaphorical dick. | ||
| You know, I need those big old chocolate fucking nutsack. | ||
| So now I walk in there like, you know, fuck you, Wilson. | ||
| Are you guys ready to fuck? | ||
| And I started doing better. | ||
| I started becoming more of a presence. | ||
| So whenever I told that about Phil Hawes, everyone's like, oh, Sean Strickland's racist. | ||
| He thinks that all black people are ghetto and violent. | ||
| And, you know, in hindsight, there is some truth to that, because I did say that, and that is kind of what I was implying. | ||
| But what I meant by that, though, is I like those people. | ||
| To me, you are a fucking nerd. | ||
| You're this white person that I don't fucking like. | ||
| I like the ghetto, the trashy, the boxers. | ||
| Hardcore dudes. | ||
| Yeah, I like the guys. | ||
| We're like, yeah, fuck this guy. | ||
| I like those guys. | ||
| Guys who like to talk shit when they spar like you. | ||
| So they, Phil took it as an insult, but to me it's like, I was insulting you because I respect those people. | ||
| I don't respect you, Phil. | ||
| I think you're a dirty fucking motherfucker, dude. | ||
| I think you're a pussy. | ||
| I think you're privileged. | ||
| I think you have a D1 education. | ||
| I think you're a fucking bitch. | ||
| And then, you know, my boys back at Millennia, I love those fucking guys. | ||
| I fucking love those guys. | ||
| When did you start training the way you train now, where most of your training is just sparring? | ||
| Well, I mean, again, I spar. | ||
| I fight, so I'm allowed to train. | ||
| I hate fucking fighting. | ||
| Fighting sucks, dude. | ||
| Half of my paycheck goes if I lose. | ||
| Like, fighting sucks, man. | ||
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I hate that. | |
| By the way, we talked about it with, I had Matt Serra, Dean Thomas, and my friend John Rollo on the podcast. | ||
| Guys fight, it's like, guys fight way harder. | ||
| It's like slavery, man. | ||
| Again, I'm not saying UFC slavery, but slavery only ended for one reason. | ||
| Because it's a shit means of production. | ||
| If you pay guy people money, they work harder and they do more. | ||
| And that's kind of how MMA would be. | ||
| If you guys just paid a little bit more money, guaranteed pay, it would be like the new form of capitalism. | ||
| Guys would fight. | ||
| I mean, there was when I fought... | ||
| No one's incentivized to fight harder for a win bonus. | ||
| They're fighting as hard as they can. | ||
| When I fought Jared Kanier, again, his corner won that for him, dude. | ||
| It was crazy. | ||
| I mean, I had the announcers coming. | ||
| It was kind of a boring fight, but you won. | ||
| And, like, his corner's yelling, like, oh, those punches aren't landing, dude. | ||
| I have a chin of a girl. | ||
| You guys seen Alex knock me out? | ||
| You touched my chin. | ||
| I fucking fall asleep, bro. | ||
| I don't know what to tell you. | ||
| But, you know, that third, fourth round came, and I'm like, you know what, dude? | ||
| None of these punches are landing. | ||
| I don't have one mark on my face. | ||
| Like, I'm landing him. | ||
| I'm rocking him. | ||
| You know, like, I'm winning this fight. | ||
| I'm just going to fucking jab him and just coast and win this bitch. | ||
| And then that's why I was so upset about the fight. | ||
| But if they were like, hey, Sean, guarantee pay. | ||
| Maybe we double-chipped what you made. | ||
| I would have went in there, bit my mouth. | ||
| We said, all right, motherfucker, let's bang. | ||
| But, you know, half your paycheck. | ||
| Gone. | ||
| Also with bad judging. | ||
| Half your paycheck with a decision that people don't even agree with. | ||
| And you lose half of your money. | ||
| That happens all the time. | ||
| You know what my mistake was? | ||
| I should have put Chris Curtis in my corner. | ||
| Because, like... | ||
| Because Kurt would have talked. | ||
| He threw a couple combinations, all missed. | ||
| And his coach was like, yeah, man, those are great. | ||
| Those are all fucking landing. | ||
| I'm like, when you box, man, when you box, a lot of punches look like they land, but they're missing by, like, if you go... | ||
| Right, and you're turning your chin. | ||
| If you go in a slow motion, I mean, after the Jerrikanier fight, I had bruises all over my chest because that's where he was landing. | ||
| And I kind of wish I had Kurt in my corner just to tell his corner to shut the fuck up and say, no, motherfucker, those aren't landing. | ||
| What are you talking about? | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| That is a crazy thing, though, especially at the Apex. | ||
| Boy, that can influence judges. | ||
| Because the Apex, there's no fucking crowd noise. | ||
| You can hear everything, everybody. | ||
| I mean, my whole chest was just bruised. | ||
| But, I mean, those aren't landed punches. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So, yeah, no, I really wish they would change that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I wish they would, too. | ||
| That's my only complaint about the UFC, really. | ||
| I wish people made more money, and I wish people didn't have a fucking win bonus. | ||
| They don't have that in boxing. | ||
| And I see other MMA organizations adopting it, too, and I'm like, man, this is an opportunity to stand out. | ||
| Don't do that. | ||
| Have you ever got to know any boxers on a personal level? | ||
| Yeah, I've known a few boxers. | ||
| Man, it's so shady. | ||
| It's the shadiest business. | ||
| Like, guys, most low-level boxing fights, until you get to 20 fights, 18 fights, generally these guys are paying their opponents to fight. | ||
| Very, very often. | ||
| And that's why when you go look at a boxing record, it's like, what the fuck did you've lost? | ||
| You've had 100 fights. | ||
| You're like 90. You're like one in 99. There's a lot of setups. | ||
| But again, it's not that they want the setups. | ||
| It's hard to get because these fucking boxers like princesses, they know how important their record is. | ||
| If they take one bad loss and it goes from 16 to one. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's a fucking restart. | ||
| That's one thing that I really do love about MMA, is that when fighters lose, it's not the end of their career. | ||
| And that the sport and the culture of sport has embraced the fact that guys get better through losses. | ||
| Boxing's also easy, though. | ||
| It's definitely easier. | ||
| Yeah, but I mean, like... | ||
| But it's different. | ||
| I mean, I wouldn't say easy, but it's just, at the highest levels, it's not easy. | ||
| I mean, when you watch, like, Lomachenko, Devin Haney, there's... | ||
| There's nothing easy about that fight. | ||
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Yeah, fuck. | |
| Loma Chico's so fucking good. | ||
| Fuck, he's good. | ||
| I was telling my buddy Robin, 16-0 guy, and I was like, well, we spar on Friday. | ||
| I'm like, Robin, what did you do all week, man? | ||
| Tell me. | ||
| Tell me about your fucking week, Robin. | ||
| He goes, well, I ran. | ||
| I hit pads. | ||
| I did bag work. | ||
| I ran. | ||
| I'm like, well, I grappled on fucking Monday, I sparred on Tuesday, I wrestled on Thursday, I sparred on Thursday, Tuesday, and now me and you are boxing, sir. | ||
| Yeah, boxing is fucking... | ||
| That's why I fucking... | ||
| It's definitely easier, and also, less guys pull out of fights, for sure, because you have less injuries. | ||
| When you're not getting wrestled, and you're not doing jiu-jitsu... | ||
| That's why Francis wanted to do boxing. | ||
| Boxing's easy. | ||
| Well, also, he wants a big-ass payday. | ||
| He's like 37, 38. I really wanted to watch him fight Jon Jones. | ||
| I did too. | ||
| I did too. | ||
| It'd be very interesting. | ||
| I think Jon Jones hates me, though. | ||
| Jon Jones hates you? | ||
| Why? | ||
| I just go hard on him, dude. | ||
| He posted some fucking thing. | ||
| And we're both sponsored by Monster, too. | ||
| I almost fucking ruined my Monster deal. | ||
| Yikes. | ||
| But, like, he posted something. | ||
| And I don't follow Jon. | ||
| And, again, I like Jon. | ||
| Jon Jones is... | ||
| Again, I don't think Jon Jones is the greatest because you get popped with that kind of steroids. | ||
| I think there should be lifetime bans for steroid use. | ||
| Lifetime fucking ban. | ||
| It'd be one thing if, like, you have a tainted supplement. | ||
| Like, let's just say, like, this was tainted. | ||
| And I'm like, you know, this is what it was. | ||
| Joe Rogan fucking gave me this. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Maybe, whatever. | ||
| But a lifetime ban, dude, for intentional use. | ||
| Do you know that he intentionally used, though? | ||
| I mean, I wasn't. | ||
| Imagine ruining a guy's career if you're wrong. | ||
| I mean, I'm sure fucking Jamie could pull it up, but I'm pretty sure it was some shit, right? | ||
| Well, here's the thing. | ||
| Derek from moreplatesmoredates.com, you ever see that guy? | ||
| That guy is the most knowledgeable. | ||
| When he talks about blood work and blood testing and whether or not there's indicators that show that someone had taken something... | ||
| But you know he his take on that is very different and also his taken even Daniel Cormier He was saying that Daniel Cormier is like something's wrong with his blood work, too But I don't know what that means so I go hard on John Jones He posted something about like I think his kid got like and again This is me being fucking CT half retardation his kid got like a A dog, like, came out. | ||
| Some crazy shit happened, but the kid was fine. | ||
| Nothing injured. | ||
| I didn't know the story. | ||
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Okay. | |
| He said, you know, like, I love the Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. | ||
| And I, like, retweeted. | ||
| I'm like, bro, like, the only one that you fucking like is a devil, man. | ||
| Like, should we go through your fucking highlight reel? | ||
| You hit a fucking pregnant lady, you drove away, you smacked your wife. | ||
| Like, you got a, you got a, you got a highlight reel, bro. | ||
| You got a long, long highlight reel being a piece of shit, you know? | ||
| So, yeah, that almost fucked my sponsorship deal. | ||
| Yikes. | ||
| But I mean, it's true, though. | ||
| Like, I hate these motherfuckers. | ||
| Like, this is what I'm gonna do. | ||
| If I ever do something really bad, you guys, I'm gonna be like John Jones. | ||
| I think those guys don't want to be bad. | ||
| I think there's a lot... | ||
| We're not just talking about John. | ||
| I'm talking about a lot of people that embrace the Lord. | ||
| I think they generally hate what they've done. | ||
| And they feel terrible. | ||
| And so, then they go to Jesus to try to, like, cleanse themselves and try to find a better path. | ||
| I think it's because they're not bad people. | ||
| They just recognize they've done bad things, especially when they're partying and getting fucked up. | ||
| Well, that's what's funny, too. | ||
| I'm the piece of shit, dude, but I've never hit a fucking pregnant lady. | ||
| That's fucked up, dude. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then drive away, dude. | ||
| You didn't stop. | ||
| There's certainly some indefensible things. | ||
| Yeah, so what I'm saying, you guys, Jon Jones, it's funny enough, I'm always like me and Baha Muhammad. | ||
| I think I said some shit about Palestine. | ||
| They should bend the knee or some shit. | ||
| Palestine would be way better if they threw out Hamas and they went to Israel and said, hey, let's make this shit better. | ||
| It would be way fucking better. | ||
| But then you have somebody like Baha Mohammed who's fucking living in Miami. | ||
| He's probably fucking, you know, barely ever goes to Palestine. | ||
| Yeah, fuck you, Israel. | ||
| Like, you know, propagating war. | ||
| Instead of bringing the olive branch and saying, hey, this sucks. | ||
| How do we make it suck less? | ||
| He's like, no, fuck you, Israel. | ||
| You're a coward, bro. | ||
| You sit here in America and you say divisive shit from your couch on your Twitter thumbs. | ||
| You just like causing problems. | ||
| But it's truth, dude. | ||
| It's facts. | ||
| I know what you're saying. | ||
| It's fact. | ||
| That's a complicated issue, though. | ||
| The Israel-Palestine thing. | ||
| I've tried to understand that many, many times. | ||
| Talked to many, many people about it. | ||
| It is fucking complicated. | ||
| Well, the problem is, Palestine, you lose. | ||
| You lose. | ||
| You just gotta bend the fucking knee, dude. | ||
| And this is what I said about Ukraine, dude. | ||
| I got a lot of shit. | ||
| I was like, you guys, Ukraine just needs to bend the fucking knee. | ||
| And everyone's like, why would you say that about Ukraine? | ||
| I'm like, because there's no path to success. | ||
| Yeah, but it's even more complicated than that. | ||
| Ukraine's problem is there's... | ||
| There's NATO forces encroaching closer and closer to... | ||
| Yeah, we put missiles there. | ||
| It's provoked. | ||
| Imagine if China allied with Mexico and we're like, hey, we're going to put some missiles. | ||
| And this is not in any way saying that what Putin did wasn't fucking horrible. | ||
| Yeah, no, Putin's a piece of shit. | ||
| Yeah, a piece of shit. | ||
| But all that is... | ||
| The whole thing is calm. | ||
| But I got so much shit for that because I was like, yeah, Ukraine should just bend. | ||
| And by the way, Zelensky's a fucking piece of shit, the president of Ukraine. | ||
| He's like throwing political parties in jail. | ||
| He's a piece of shit itself. | ||
| I don't know how we look at him like a democracy. | ||
| But I was like, yeah, Ukraine should just bend the knee. | ||
| And everyone's like, oh, Sean, why would you say that? | ||
| Why would you say that? | ||
| You have... | ||
| Doomed your country. | ||
| I mean, did you see the pictures of the cities? | ||
| Just rubble. | ||
| Rubble. | ||
| Like, everything's fucked. | ||
| And it's only... | ||
| I mean, it's not over. | ||
| But it's not over. | ||
| So they're gonna keep bombing things. | ||
| How do you come back from that as a country? | ||
| Your kids, kids, kids, kids, kids, kids, kids. | ||
| They are 100% going to wake up every day with a Ukraine flag. | ||
| And let's say that happens. | ||
| But they are gonna be in utter fucking poverty. | ||
| You've fucking doomed your... | ||
| And again, it sucks. | ||
| And the same thing with Palestine. | ||
| The situation sucks, although Israel is way better than fucking Russia. | ||
| The situation sucks, but in the grand scheme of things, man, you just doom your kids. | ||
| Every time you sit there and you send out a tweet, you're making your kids live in poverty and fucking war. | ||
| That's rough, man. | ||
| It's fucking rough, dude. | ||
| It's very complicated. | ||
| All those things are very, very complicated and having a conversation between two meatheads on a podcast. | ||
| Oh yeah, we're retarded. | ||
| But it's like, dude, I mean, could you picture like, I mean, if you were on your tweet tweeter right now talking about like, fuck Israel and all that, I'd be like, Joe, you're a fucking idiot, dude. | ||
| Like all you're doing is... | ||
| It'd be one thing if you were there fucking lighting kite bombs from schools. | ||
| It'd be one thing if you were the guy on the ground in a hospital launching rockets at Israel. | ||
| I'm like, well, at least you're living it. | ||
| But just to be in Miami doing it on the Tweet to Tweet. | ||
| Just shitty, man. | ||
| People just shouldn't have to die, dude. | ||
| Shouldn't have to die. | ||
| No, they definitely shouldn't have to die. | ||
| And there's also so much money involved in war. | ||
| That's the scariest thought. | ||
| The scariest thought is that people are willing to make decisions that they know is going to cross thousands and thousands of people their lives. | ||
| You know, with how much money we gave to Ukraine, I talked about this in a press conference. | ||
| That would have financed cancer, like American cancer treatments for like 5-10 years. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, fuck, dude. | ||
| It's so crazy. | ||
| You're just hopeless, dude. | ||
| It's utterly fucking hopeless, dude. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's probably not something that we can fix. | ||
| No, we'll never fix it. | ||
| I do want to know, though, before we wrap this up, about your training. | ||
| When did you learn? | ||
| What made you do so much sparring? | ||
| When did you sort of embrace that? | ||
| Because it's one thing that does separate you from everybody else is this timing and control of distance that you really only get from a lot of sparring. | ||
| And so there's guys like Max Holloway, who's the elite of the elite. | ||
| Who said at this point in time, I don't spar anymore because I get banged up too much sparring. | ||
| You know, he said that to you, but I ran into him and I asked him and he kind of like laughed. | ||
| He's like, no, do I still spar? | ||
| I just don't think he's... | ||
| But here's the thing about Max Holloway. | ||
| He is so fucking good. | ||
| There's not many people who spar him that hit him. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Same with me. | ||
| It's like, again, I could get knocked out. | ||
| Max could get knocked out. | ||
| I could go spar every single day, all day long, and I could say I don't really could take damage. | ||
| I mean, I proved it to that stupid mouthpiece they had me wear. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But you know, again, it just comes to obsessive. | ||
| I started training because I was an angry fucking kid. | ||
| I turned out I loved sparring. | ||
| And it just makes me happier. | ||
| Has other people in your gym sort of embraced that when they see your success with that? | ||
| So you know what it is, dude? | ||
| You have people living this world fantasy. | ||
| Like, again, not naming names. | ||
| I train with great guys. | ||
| But I've talked to some guys, and they're like, well, in a fight, a lot of guys say, well, training's not a fight. | ||
| Training's not a fight. | ||
| And, you know, in a fight, even though I don't train or spar hard, I'll turn it up. | ||
| And I always tell these guys, dude, like, I know you say that, but I'll fucking put 10 G's on the ground right now. | ||
| You match it. | ||
| Whatever you want to do, you match it. | ||
| Spar me three to five rounds and I will bring you in such fucking misery that you will fucking quit. | ||
| And a lot of fighters, man, we got to say things and make ourselves feel better, you know? | ||
| We got to say, like, oh, in a fight we do this, in a fight we do this. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| And so you think the best approach is just to fight all the fucking time. | ||
| All the time. | ||
| But again, my style is not taking damage. | ||
| Like Chris Curtis, it's hard for Chris Curtis to spar 24-7 because that man, like, he's, like, a fucking in the pocket. | ||
| Like, no matter what, he's taking damage. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So it's just easy, man, when I don't take damage. | ||
| My style is, like, evolved around liking the spar. | ||
| This is good for the brain, dude. | ||
| You know this. | ||
| You gotta start doing DMT. Go lay in your fucking float tank. | ||
| But it's interesting because there's no best way to do anything. | ||
| It's like, what is bringing you success? | ||
| And what brings you success is unique. | ||
| Also, low self-esteem, man. | ||
| And this is like, we talk about a guy like Jon Jones. | ||
| Again, I'm not sure that talk. | ||
| He's probably one of the best fighters ever fucking fight in the UFC. Having low self-esteem is rough. | ||
| And a lot of us have super low self-esteem. | ||
| Like, a lot of us fucking look in the mirror and, you know... | ||
| Like, you take someone like Jon Jones, that motherfucker was inventing moves. | ||
| He was like... | ||
| When he was back in the day, like, dude, he was inventing... | ||
| That spinning, like, when he had the... | ||
| I actually did it against Rye Hall. | ||
| I was so fucking stoked. | ||
| I'm a fan of Jon Jones, right? | ||
| Let go of the single leg, boom, spinning back up. | ||
| Well, that was Jon Jones. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But you gotta understand, Jon Jones is a fucking super athlete. | ||
| Since birth, man, that kid was told that he was fucking gold. | ||
| You know, his brothers are fucking gold. | ||
| He's gold. | ||
| So he goes in there and is just like, I'm fucking, I'm made of gold. | ||
| I can just go fucking do that. | ||
| But he opened up his world title fight with Shogun with a flying knee. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| But you take a lot of us who has, like, low self-esteem. | ||
| Like, especially, like, my buddy Chris Curtis. | ||
| It's nice going to a fight and I sparred Alex. | ||
| I sparred Artem Levin. | ||
| I sparred me and Francis Aghan who had a fucking three round war. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Oh yeah, I banged with Francis. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| What is that like? | ||
| So heavyweights are easier to hit and not get hit, but the problem is they just touch you, dude, and it feels like you get hit by a truck. | ||
| But I always tell Francis, by the way, if you've met, you obviously, Francis is the fucking greatest guy. | ||
| He's a great guy. | ||
| Bro, he's like, you talk to Francis and you're like, dude, you're a fucking saint. | ||
| That guy's been through some shit. | ||
| So I walked into the gym once, and it was like my birthday, the day for him. | ||
| I was like, why didn't you tell me it was my birthday? | ||
| And I was like, those fucking birthdays are for women and children. | ||
| I don't fucking celebrate birthdays. | ||
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Francis is like, Sean, Sean, what is a birthday? | |
| What is a birthday? | ||
| I was like, Francis, what are you talking about? | ||
| He's like, there is no presents in the salt mines. | ||
| There is no cake in the salt mines. | ||
| I was like, fuck, Francis. | ||
| It made me feel like a fucking pussy. | ||
| The most sincere guy, bro. | ||
| The most sincere guy was like, Francis. | ||
| No offense, man, but I would never want to date a girl you dated just because, like, I mean, maybe like six of these combined. | ||
| And Francis, I'm not even joking, bro. | ||
| I'm like, I mean, I'm being comic, I'm joking. | ||
| He's like, Sean, Sean, Sean, you don't, when you know the way of a woman, he's like, you can make a woman, you know, climax with the finger. | ||
| And he's like, he's like having this heart-to-heart talk with me about, like, pleasuring a woman. | ||
| And I'm like, Francis, I'm just making a joke, dude. | ||
| I'm just fucking with you, bro. | ||
| But yeah, the most, the sincere, oh yeah, but sparring France is fun. | ||
| I mean, I like sparring France. | ||
| Like, come on, you fucking bitch, let's fight. | ||
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Wow. | |
| Because he scares me. | ||
| He scares the fuck out of me. | ||
| He's a big, scary black man. | ||
| He scares the fuck out of me. | ||
| He scares the fuck out of everybody. | ||
| Yeah, but like that's... | ||
| The power that guy has is fucking ridiculous. | ||
| But what I'm saying, though, it's like, when he scares me, like that little voice, you know, me hiding underneath the bed from my dad, and like, that little child fucking looks at him and I feel fear. | ||
| I'm like, I gotta fight that motherfucker. | ||
| I sincerely hope he's successful. | ||
| I hope that him leaving as the heavyweight champion, and I really hope he gets a boxing match. | ||
| But boxing, they're fucking stringing him along, man. | ||
| They keep promising him this fight and promising him that fight, and no one's going to fight him. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| You know? | ||
| But no, he's doing the good PFL thing. | ||
| I mean, he's like, he's in there. | ||
| But he's not going to fight in PFL until 2024. Yeah. | ||
| Which is crazy. | ||
| Yeah, but man, fuck it. | ||
| Like, I don't understand why. | ||
| Yeah, fucking A, dude. | ||
| Just money. | ||
| I'm sure he doesn't have to fight, dude. | ||
| He has fucking money. | ||
| Well, yeah, but he wants the real money. | ||
| He wants the, I don't have to work again for the rest of my life money. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Go fuck yourself money. | ||
| Yeah, and I really hope he gets that. | ||
| And I think they fucking dangled that out in front of him. | ||
| Yeah, and then he got hyped up, and it was like, you see what these box are making. | ||
| My biggest thing, dude, like the PFL, everyone's like, oh, Sean, why do you talk so highly of PFL and Bellator? | ||
| I want everybody to win. | ||
| I want everybody to win. | ||
| Competition's fucking good. | ||
| Good for everybody. | ||
| Johnny Eblom, he's my boy in Bellator. | ||
| He's a beast. | ||
| Oh, I fucking love Johnny Eblom. | ||
| 185 pounders on earth. | ||
| Fuck, dude. | ||
| Me and Johnny Abram have wars, man. | ||
| I fucking love the guy. | ||
| I want him to fucking make money. | ||
| I want Saadi Busai to win the championship. | ||
| It's like, people are so brand loyal. | ||
| And I'm a company man, but it's like, I love In-N-Out, dude. | ||
| I fucking love me some In-N-Out. | ||
| Fucking love In-N-Out. | ||
| But, like, I also want five... | ||
| I don't really like five guys, bro. | ||
| I like five guys. | ||
| Ah, it's too greasy, bro. | ||
| It's too greasy. | ||
| Too greasy? | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| But I'll give you jalapenos and bacon. | ||
| The fries are, like, mush, bro. | ||
| They're great. | ||
| The fries are great. | ||
| What are you, communists? | ||
| You want, like, five guys? | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| How the fuck is going on? | ||
| But what I'm saying, though, right, is I want five guys... | ||
| I want five guys to lower their prices. | ||
| I want them to fucking steal in and out. | ||
| You want competition. | ||
| I want competition, man. | ||
| America's based off competition. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| You know, and that's the problem. | ||
| Not enough competition, you guys. | ||
| Agreed. | ||
| So support, you know, what I would say is support Bellator, support PFL. If you're a fighter... | ||
| Support one. | ||
| Support everybody. | ||
| One FC, you know? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, it's better for everybody. | ||
| I like, I love that Fra Tang guy, dude. | ||
| That guy's a... | ||
| He's fun to watch. | ||
| Bro, I watch that guy always hype me up. | ||
| He's just like, fucking... | ||
| Yeah, oh, he's a little animal. | ||
| But when you're this fucking big, you know, things hurt a little bit less. | ||
| There's some reality to that, for sure. | ||
| But it's like watching a woman just way fucking better. | ||
| He's a bad motherfucker. | ||
| I hate watching women fights, by the way. | ||
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God, I hate it. | |
| And I love that Mighty Mouse fight with him. | ||
| I really love that fight. | ||
| That's a wild idea. | ||
| Like, have one round Muay Thai, second round MMA. Yeah, I mean, I like that, but just stick to Muay Thai, dude. | ||
| Well, that would be good for him to just stick to Muay Thai, but I love the fact that Mighty Mouse took that challenge on him. | ||
| I love that. | ||
| Well, it'd be cool just to be like, why does it have to be like, hey, I need to beat you at MMA? You are a kickboxer. | ||
| You are an MMA fighter. | ||
| It's two fucking different sports. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah, but it's exciting to see. | ||
| Let's see what happens. | ||
| See if he can survive the first round in just pure Muay Thai. | ||
| No takedowns. | ||
| No, no, I think that clown show is that Jake Paul match. | ||
| It's a fucking clown show. | ||
| What are they doing? | ||
| Is he still fighting AD? Is that still going on? | ||
| Oh, that one. | ||
| Yeah, I thought, because he's got a PFL contract as well, right? | ||
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Oh, he's right, yeah. | |
| Yeah, so I think he's going to fight in PFL. You know, dude, he's one of those guys that make me so mad. | ||
| They just, they game the system so well. | ||
| They fucking, he's such a, I'd say he's smart, dude. | ||
| Clever. | ||
| All that fucking money from TikTok and just like... | ||
| Yeah, but the guy's fighting Anderson Silva. | ||
| The guy's in there, you know, boxing Tommy Fury. | ||
| Bro, who the fuck is Tommy Fury? | ||
| Tommy Fury can box, dude. | ||
| When's the last time Tommy Fury boxed? | ||
| Before he fought Jake Paul, he fought four months before that. | ||
| But it's a thing you're saying, but he's skillful. | ||
| Bro, he's a part-time fighter. | ||
| He did it on a reality TV show. | ||
| He's a handsome guy. | ||
| I would fuck Tommy Fury up. | ||
| I would fucking put hands on him and Paul. | ||
| But you know what I'm saying? | ||
| Yeah, he's a good-looking dude, man. | ||
| I don't fucking know. | ||
| Have you thought about doing straight boxing? | ||
| I've been like, I've had guys talk to me and be like, dude, you would fucking cry. | ||
| Because that's what you really enjoy, right? | ||
| Yeah, like boxing. | ||
| You don't throw a lot of kicks. | ||
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Yeah, no. | |
| I know you have real good jujitsu, but it's not like you're taking guys down and submitting them. | ||
| If the money was right and someone's like, hey, we'll pay you this money to box, yeah, fuck yeah, I'd do it. | ||
| But, you know, everything is money, dude. | ||
| I'd fucking... | ||
| Joe Ruby, if somebody fucking came here and put the fucking... | ||
| A million dollars on this table right now to attack Joe Rogan. | ||
| I would attack Joe Rogan and deal with the court case later as your special forces guys come and shoot me. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Yeah, well, I think you got some real amazing opportunities coming in the UFC. And then if something opens up for a boxing match... | ||
| But either way, I'm not poor. | ||
| The Paul guys, they're like, your size. | ||
| Yeah, dude, I'm not poor, which is nice. | ||
| Yeah, I'd fucking put work on it. | ||
| It's nice, right? | ||
| Dude, not being poor, you guys, is so nice. | ||
| I mean, fucking Rogan has that, like, go fuck yourself money. | ||
| Rogan has the fucking, I don't have to do shit for the rest of my life money. | ||
| But you're still doing shit, bro. | ||
| I applaud you for that. | ||
| Yeah, you gotta still do shit. | ||
| Well, the problem is, when you stop doing shit, you die. | ||
| You just become a lazy old sack of shit. | ||
| Yeah, your brain starts going away. | ||
| Yeah, but the beautiful thing about having money is now you don't have to think about it. | ||
| Now just do what you enjoy doing. | ||
| So I just do what I like doing. | ||
| Is it weird that you could just wake up and just like, hey, I want to buy a motorcycle. | ||
| I don't give a fuck. | ||
| Yeah, it's weird. | ||
| Like, there's nothing you could think about. | ||
| Like, I want to go buy an airplane. | ||
| I can go buy a fucking airplane. | ||
| Yeah, but that's when it gets wild. | ||
| Like, when people start buying houses and airplanes. | ||
| Because, like, then you'll run out of money. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, you could run out of money. | ||
| You could be a billionaire and run out of money. | ||
| But you can go buy, like, a $300,000 Cessna and give no fucks. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, fuck, it's weird. | ||
| It's weird. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Especially growing up poor. | ||
| It's very weird. | ||
| Yo, Black Rifle, guys. | ||
| But I don't think about money. | ||
| What I've done with it, I've recognized, okay, that's an aspect of my life that's covered. | ||
| So let's just not make any decisions based only on money. | ||
| Whereas when I was younger, like when I hosted Fear Factor, I was like, oh, it's good money. | ||
| I'll do it. | ||
| I would never do anything like that now. | ||
| It's like I don't want to do anything just for money. | ||
| So now I just do things that I really enjoy doing. | ||
| Your kids, are they going to work? | ||
| 100%. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, listen, this life is not... | ||
| If you just give people everything... | ||
| It fucking ruins them. | ||
| It ruins them. | ||
| It ruins them. | ||
| They win the lottery when you're 18, your life is going to be hell. | ||
| Yeah, you're going to build a business and all of a sudden your kids just fucking ruin it. | ||
| Their kids are drug addicts. | ||
| Look at Hunter Biden. | ||
| They found coke in the White House. | ||
| Did you see that? | ||
| Did they really? | ||
| Yes! | ||
| They shut the White House down. | ||
| They found coke in the White House after he visited. | ||
| I think it's hilarious. | ||
| They're trying to cover this up. | ||
| Would you vote if it was Trump versus Biden? | ||
| Would you vote for Trump? | ||
| Or would you just not vote? | ||
| I would vote for Trump over Biden. | ||
| I said that before. | ||
| I said that before I'd vote for Trump over Biden. | ||
| But I voted for Libertarian in the last election. | ||
| My man. | ||
| I voted Joe Jorgensen in the last election. | ||
| I think Robert Kennedy has a real good shot. | ||
| I think he has a real good shot. | ||
| And we're more than a year away from the election. | ||
| I think people are waking up. | ||
| Like, even the fucking... | ||
| I was watching the press secretary get grilled today. | ||
| All the different journalists are starting to act like journalists. | ||
| Fuck, dude, right? | ||
| They're going after her, asking her all these questions about these fucking emails and these WhatsApp chats that show that there's very clear bribery going on. | ||
| Yeah, fuck. | ||
| Pay to play, man. | ||
| And she's trying to like, oh, I'm not going to get into that. | ||
| I'm not going to talk about business, family businesses. | ||
| You know what's so crazy about America, though? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then Joe Biden talking about, oh, you need a plane to take on the government. | ||
| Americans are so fucking pussified. | ||
| Americans are so fucking pussified, dude, that it is factual that we have sold this country. | ||
| It's factual that we lied for Iraq. | ||
| We have done so much fucked up shit. | ||
| It's not we. | ||
| It's giant corporations that can lie to people in order to make money. | ||
| But as Americans, we all sit there and be like, huzzah, who's next? | ||
| Yeah, but we don't know what's going on. | ||
| That's the problem is the media's bought and paid for. | ||
| But we do know what's going on now. | ||
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Now we know what was going on in 2001. But even then, what do you think is going to happen in the next election? | |
| They're going to find some other stooge on the Democrat-Republican party. | ||
| We're going to vote for them, and the cycle continues. | ||
| We'll see. | ||
| Yeah, no, it's fucking damn shit, dude. | ||
| Fucking A, guys. | ||
| Listen, Sean. | ||
| I'm down for the revolution. | ||
| Rogan's down for revolution, guys. | ||
| Let's go fucking storm the Capitol. | ||
| It'll be fun. | ||
| Congratulations on your fight, and I really look forward to seeing you next time you're in there against anybody and everybody, whoever it is. | ||
| I'm a fan. | ||
| Hey man, I'm pseudo-famous now. | ||
| I made the fucking Rogan podcast. | ||
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Let's go. | |
| Let's fucking go. | ||
| Alright, thanks. |
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