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Sept. 22, 2011 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience #140 - Brendon Walsh (Part 3)
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joe rogan
Gene Simmons came to see me do stand-up at New Year's in L.A. And his son listened to one of my CDs and liked it, so he dragged the whole family out.
I've never been starstruck before at a show where I was like, I feel weird about to go on stage.
I'm about to go on stage.
It wasn't a normal show.
It just couldn't be a normal show.
It was just too weird to me.
When I was a little kid, like a little 7 or 8 years old or whatever the fuck I was, I guess I was probably like 11 when Kiss was big.
I remember, like, thinking they were the greatest thing in the history of the world.
You know, like, this is the greatest band of all time.
Like, I was a huge, huge KISS fan.
So, like, to be standing there as a grown man, and he's a grown man, and we're at my show, I'm like, that's just too fucking weird.
This is too much for me.
I had to address it.
I had to address it.
I shifted my whole act around.
brendon walsh
Can't do that whole Gene Simmons chunk.
joe rogan
Luckily I didn't, right?
brendon walsh
There are some people, there are some young girls who would be more starstruck by Gene Simmons' son if she saw the two of them walking down the street, or some young kids in general.
joe rogan
Well, he's a reality star.
He's a handsome devil.
Very tall.
The whole family is very tall.
When they were hugging me, I felt like their child.
brendon walsh
Were the cameras following them around for the reality show?
joe rogan
No, it was legit.
It was just a regular show.
brian redban
Did you know there's an abandoned zoo in L.A., in Griffith Park?
joe rogan
An abandoned zoo?
brian redban
Yeah, it closed in the 1960s.
It was the first zoo in Los Angeles.
They closed it down because it was so fucking small, and so they raised money for the current zoo, and so it was like a mile down the street.
And so now, I found out the other day that you can actually go to this zoo.
It's still there.
brendon walsh
You can walk through it.
brian redban
Yeah, they filmed the movie Anchorman.
There's a scene in it from that movie.
So anyways, you go through this weird trail, and you go through this parking lot, and then you end up in this zoo, and it looks like this is where the tigers were.
This is where the elephants were.
And then there's all these cages where there used to be gorillas and stuff like that.
And what's so cool, it's fucking creepily...
It's been grown over.
There's plants and stuff like that, and half of the shit's like, Still standing.
The other half is crumbling.
But people hang out there and bring blankets.
And there was people playing the doors in one of the cells.
So you're just walking down here with Jim Morrison just kind of echoing throughout.
brendon walsh
This sounds a little fantastical.
I mean, I live really close to there.
And it's not that weird.
It's a field.
Right when you drive in off Riverside there.
brian redban
Right.
brendon walsh
It's just up past the merry-go-round thing.
And there's a big field and then some old cages.
joe rogan
Yeah, you're freaking me out, man.
brendon walsh
I don't know about these doors parties.
joe rogan
And then there's a man who works there.
brian redban
Did you go to the old house?
joe rogan
And he talked to us.
unidentified
He told us where to go, and it turns out he's been dead for five years!
brian redban
See, we climbed through where the animals walk up and down, or through the back, and there was people, graffiti artists, really awesome.
brendon walsh
Oh, you saw this?
brian redban
Yeah.
brendon walsh
Oh, okay.
brian redban
And behind the gate, there was a big drawing of a gorilla face screaming behind this gate.
joe rogan
Imagine if somebody just clubbed you over the head, and the next thing you know, there was a dick in your ass.
unidentified
Yeah!
brendon walsh
Oh, that was in the dream, too.
brian redban
What I thought was the creepiest, though, it was mostly women and girls just hanging out there.
brendon walsh
What was going on?
brian redban
Smoking weed and stuff like that.
joe rogan
So it's a hangout.
People hang out there.
brian redban
Yeah, it's like a park, almost.
brendon walsh
But it was at night?
brian redban
No, during the day.
joe rogan
So it's a former zoo that you can walk through.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Anybody can walk through.
brian redban
Yeah, and it closed in the 60s.
And then you can really explore.
There's a lot of trails.
You can find old things.
It would be really cool to see the blueprint.
And like, oh, this is where this used to be.
It's like a ghost town.
It's creepy as fuck.
brendon walsh
I thought I saw most of it, but it sounds...
What you're saying is...
Yeah.
joe rogan
I was working for a private investigator once, and I used to have to do a lot of driving for them.
And we were out in the middle of fucking nowhere, like way, way far away.
And I was driving back home, and I was bored.
And I don't remember the town, but it was a town in the middle of fucking nowhere.
And I saw a sign that said the zoo, for whatever the fuck this town was.
I mean, I'm in the middle of nowhere.
So I pull in.
I go, okay, let's see what this fucking zoo's all about.
So I go there.
There's a tiger that is in like a swimming pool.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, this fucking thing has nowhere to move.
And it keeps pacing back and forth and back and forth.
And that's as far as I got.
I got to that thing and I was just so freaked out by the obvious madness that I was seeing that they had taken some animal and put it into what is really like a swimming pool.
And this fucking thing is just going back and forth and back and forth and there's no room for him.
brendon walsh
Oh, so like a swimming pool on its side?
joe rogan
No, I mean, when I say a swimming pool, it's like the size of a swimming pool, and it's cement.
I mean, it's just this weird fucking thing that this poor creature is stuck in, and he's pacing back and forth, and I'm watching him, and I'm like, this is madness.
Like, there's some, like, really tiny-ass zoos in some places where these poor little fucking animals are just, you know.
Even if you go to a nice zoo, though, does that not ever freak you out?
I can't...
I don't like that feeling of looking at these...
I mean, it's cool that we can see them all.
unidentified
I mean...
brian redban
I was spoiled.
joe rogan
It's educational.
brian redban
I grew up by one of the best zoos in probably some people consider the whole country or whatever, the Columbus Zoo, where Jack Hanna's from, you know, and all that stuff.
So our zoo was a little bit cooler.
They had...
Because it's Ohio.
They had, like, farmland, you know, zoo, where it was just like...
This elephant was in, like, its own, like...
Like, it didn't look like a cage.
It was just, you know, big, huge exhibits.
joe rogan
Do you think it bothers them, though?
Okay, do you think if it gets big enough, then it's okay?
Is that the justification?
brian redban
Yeah, I think, like, do you know that you're on, you know, where you're at right now?
You know, if you grew up on an island like Hawaii or something like that, I mean, that's way bigger, but, you know, elephants, they just want a big thing of grass.
I don't think they care to go hiking.
joe rogan
Are you saying that elephants are in Hawaii?
I'm so confused.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Where the fuck did Hawaii figure into your equation?
brian redban
I'm talking about if animals have enough space.
If they have football fields.
joe rogan
I agree.
I went to the San Diego.
Yeah, San Diego Wild Animal Park is pretty dope.
And the one animals that definitely seem happy are the giraffes.
They're just kind of chilling and eating and wandering around.
And there's no one there to jack them.
If you're a gazelle or an antelope or a fucking giraffe or anything, you're always thinking something's going to jack you eventually.
You ever see the videos of them taking down giraffes?
Of lions taking down giraffes?
There's a bunch of them online.
It is crazy, man.
It's crazy.
One of them, there's a lion and two lionesses, and they take down this giraffe in the middle of a street.
And these people are filming this from their fucking car.
They're inside their car, and they're filming it through the windshield, and this fucking lion takes down this giraffe right in front of them.
unidentified
It's wild, dude.
joe rogan
It's so fucking primal.
You're right there, and this thing is just...
brian redban
That shirt is so badass.
joe rogan
Yeah, I got a Bert Kreischer t-shirt on.
unidentified
Does he sell those?
joe rogan
Yeah, I think so.
brian redban
That is fucking beautiful.
joe rogan
It says, I am the machine.
If you don't know, Bert Kreischer has a fucking hilarious story that he told on this podcast, which is an amazing story of him in Russia.
And it's so funny that somebody animated that one, right?
brian redban
Yeah, and I think if I remember correctly, it's like in the hundreds of thousands now.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's fucking hilarious.
I'll find it later and I'll tweet it tonight.
But, you know, Bert Kreischer, he's been on the podcast a bunch of times, and he's one of the funniest guys ever.
brendon walsh
It's a crazy story.
I heard it.
He did it at the improv.
joe rogan
He's so funny, man.
He's such a fun guy to be around, man.
brendon walsh
Yeah.
I didn't realize his, like, history.
I mean, I just, you know, he's just the guy that I met.
Around doing comedy, but I didn't know that he was like the king of college partiers.
Yeah, Van Wilder.
joe rogan
He's such a nice guy.
brendon walsh
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's so weird.
It's like he's a partier, yeah, but he doesn't have a fucking mean bone in his body.
brendon walsh
No, no.
brian redban
And he hangs out with his fans, like that one guy, that Monkey Todd, did that awesome Nancy Grace video, by the way.
Did you see that Nancy Grace video?
brendon walsh
No.
brian redban
It was beautiful.
joe rogan
Dude called up Nancy Grace and asked Nancy Grace, you know, what is it, who you want to marry, fuck, or kill?
brendon walsh
Right, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
And he asked her, you know...
brian redban
Would you rather want to marry, kill, or fuck Red Band, Sam Tripoli, or Jason Tebow?
joe rogan
And he says it's on TMZ, live.
brian redban
Really?
brendon walsh
Yeah.
brian redban
And Nancy Grace is just sitting there like, you could kind of look like she was going to smile, but then you become angry.
And then Monkey Todd goes, and would you dry hump Sam Tripoli?
And then Harvey, the TMZ host, this was their first serious interview, I heard.
They were really like, wow, this is the first time we have a serious interview.
Harvey was like, is this serious?
Really?
It's uncomfortable to watch that video, don't you think?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
No.
Why is it uncomfortable?
She's a nonsense person.
brendon walsh
She is nonsensical.
joe rogan
Dead babies in Florida!
Did you know she was that big?
That's what keeps her in office.
brian redban
Did you know she was that big?
I didn't know she was that big.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, you know, fretting about dead babies in Florida allows you a lot of freedom to eat Cheetos and stuff your face with reddings.
unidentified
Dead babies.
brendon walsh
It doesn't seem possible.
joe rogan
Is this ring ding if I don't eat this ring ding?
unidentified
Is this baby in Florida gonna be alive now?
joe rogan
I don't think so.
She just eats it.
It's hard to stay slim when there's so many dead babies.
It's hard to stay slim.
brendon walsh
And she has babies.
She has twin babies, which doesn't seem right.
She doesn't seem like childbearing.
joe rogan
It seems like that should be physically impossible.
Her eggs should be just fucking fighting to the death in there.
brendon walsh
I question it.
joe rogan
I wonder.
Her eggs should look like a gladiator scene.
Just fighting each other.
brian redban
Can you imagine if she just had the best pussy ever?
joe rogan
Just juicy.
brendon walsh
No way.
joe rogan
Just like a fist.
Imagine.
Just like it's jerking you off with her vagina muscles.
Have you seen that Russian bitch online that can carry like 30 pounds with her pussy?
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
With piercings?
I don't know how it works.
She doesn't really show the gash.
But she's got videos on how to control your pussy muscles so that you can pick up weight.
She would just fucking crush your dick.
Just get it in there.
Maybe it would be too tight.
Maybe it would be uncomfortable.
Like a wrestling match with your dick.
brendon walsh
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, like dogs.
Like dogs, when they fuck, they've got a real problem.
Because dogs have a bone.
And that bone gets locked in there like a fish hook.
And sometimes they get stuck.
It's fucking painful.
brian redban
Cats do that.
joe rogan
They yipe and yipe.
brian redban
Cats are jagged dicks.
unidentified
What?
brian redban
Yeah, have you ever seen a cat dick?
It's jagged.
joe rogan
What are you doing jerking off cats, son?
brian redban
Yeah, why'd you see a cat there?
brendon walsh
Nobody else says.
brian redban
That's why if you ever hear cats fucking, they're screaming.
joe rogan
Oh, wow.
So it's painful?
brian redban
It's painful for the female cat.
joe rogan
That's nuts.
brian redban
You should Google cat penis right now.
You'll be shocked.
It looks like a...
joe rogan
I've been tricked before, but not that easily, Brian.
Not that easily.
brendon walsh
Cat penis.
joe rogan
Cat penis.
brian redban
Seriously, look at it.
joe rogan
I guess I need to know.
Everybody knows what a dog dick looks like, but very few people will know.
brian redban
Yeah, I've never seen my cat's penis.
brendon walsh
No.
joe rogan
You've never seen it?
brian redban
No.
joe rogan
You didn't go take a look?
Okay.
I see little Barbie looking things.
Cat penis spines they are called.
My goodness.
He's telling the truth.
This is horrific.
Nature is so ruthless.
You know what it is?
That's to ensure that the male stays in there and shoots his load.
This is horrendous.
Nature is so goddamn vicious.
What a vicious fucking animal nature is.
brendon walsh
Well, if girl cats would just loosen up a little bit, they would just need their Barbie penis.
joe rogan
That's a wild world we're living in.
The world of the cats.
Big cats like jaguars or little baby cats out there killing mice.
It's just the same thing.
It's a wild world of fucking moving and killing things smaller than you.
We can't even understand what it must be like to try to get some cat pussy.
You know?
Could you imagine?
Could you imagine?
This bitch is in agony.
She wants to fuck so bad she's in agony, but she knows you're going to rip her insides up with that needly dick.
brendon walsh
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
She wants you to just fuck me with no needles.
She's like, baby, the needles are part of the package.
And they just circle each other.
brendon walsh
That could be a good, like, let's write that script.
Cat man, but he just has a Barbie penis.
joe rogan
Well, that's why dude cats, you know what they like?
They like those fluffy cats that just give up.
You know, like, what are those called?
What is yours called?
Persians.
Persians just give up.
They're just little slutty cats.
They just relax and just take it.
That's why, like, a big tomcat would like a Persian cat around the house.
So you could just fuck it, random.
She's not going to fight back much.
She's going to barely fight back.
She can't fuck with him.
Big black street cat.
brendon walsh
It's like the Kardashians.
They're Persian, aren't they?
joe rogan
No.
No, they're Armenian.
Did you make a joke about Armenians somewhere on Twitter recently?
brendon walsh
No, I don't think so.
brian redban
Have you ever worn a long-sleeved shirt?
unidentified
Oh, no.
brendon walsh
Jen Kirkman tweeted something...
Yeah, she tweeted something about...
What is it?
An Armenian holiday today or something?
unidentified
I don't know.
joe rogan
Is it?
brendon walsh
She said something.
She said she wasn't going to make any sarcastic tweets about the Kardashians in honor of some Armenian day.
And I called her an ass kisser.
That was the whole...
I didn't say anything negative about Armenians.
joe rogan
I know you would never do that, right?
I would never say anything negative about a group of people that proud.
Armenians, they love being Armenian.
There's not a lot of Armenians who are like, They love being Armenians.
brendon walsh
They're proud people.
joe rogan
Cairo Parisian, dude who used to fight in the UFC. Fucking what a personality that guy has.
He's hilarious.
I got this thing that we were having lunch.
I gotta ask him if I can put this video out.
It's a video of him joking around about his nickname was The Heat.
brendon walsh
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
And joking around about giving girls the heat and telling them, what are you doing?
You're taking the heat, the heat, take the heat.
He's like yelling about it.
He's like, he's so Armenian.
brendon walsh
Yeah.
unidentified
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
It's so fucking hilarious.
You know those really aggressive, funny Armenian type guys?
brendon walsh
Yeah.
I mean, I don't know a ton of them.
I've only lived out here for...
joe rogan
They're like extreme Italians.
brendon walsh
A few years.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Italians with extremes.
brian redban
Yeah, exactly.
I actually had...
Armenians took me up at the tire center the other day, which was the most weirdest thing.
There were six Armenians.
They all came out, circled around the car, and were like, hey, how's it going?
Oh, you got two nails in your tires.
We'll change them and patch them.
And he goes, you know what?
It's on us.
And I'm like, what?
Really?
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
Dude.
brendon walsh
That's awesome.
brian redban
What the fuck is that?
joe rogan
You always hear bad things about Russian people and Armenian people and people from what we consider hard places.
I've meet a lot of great Armenian people.
Armenian people have a lot of passion.
There's something about real ethnic groups, a real group like the Armenians.
They stick to their culture.
And when I was growing up, I always thought culture was kind of bullshit.
Like, who gives a fuck?
It doesn't really matter if you behave exactly the way everybody else behaves.
But when you see a really tight-knit ethnic community, and you appreciate not that they're racist or biased against anybody else, but that they have this real distinct flavor to them.
The way they behave, the things they like.
They have this real distinct, real uniqueness to it that makes it interesting.
It's one of the interesting things about life.
One of the things I was thinking about when I was in New Orleans this weekend, I was like, this is a completely different way to live your life.
Here there's these people that are living, this is a totally different flavor, a very unique flavor of its own.
It almost was like a race.
New Orleans people are almost like it's from another country.
But I think that when people get assimilated, the perfect thing is to have everybody be cool with everybody and there's no people who are prejudiced against any particular group because we're all some sort of weird shade of grey now.
We've all interbred to the point where there's no distinctiveness between, no way of distinguishing us between anybody else.
We're all just one sort of individual type of thing.
But along the way, man, we're going to lose a lot of fun.
There's a lot of fun in people being weird.
There's a lot of fun in Armenian dudes wearing gold chains and trying to get some pussy.
Those guys are awesome, man.
Those guys are fucking characters, man.
brendon walsh
What about the Kardashians, though?
Armenians aren't proud of that.
joe rogan
I believe they are.
brendon walsh
If you make fun of the Kardashians, is an Armenian guy going to punch me in the face?
joe rogan
I don't think they claim them.
I don't think the Armenians claim them.
Because it seems like she's trying to be a white girl.
It's different.
I think Armenian women...
I don't want to speak for Armenian women.
Well, listen.
They have to forget about whatever the fuck...
Is she worthwhile?
Is she worth anything?
What's the point?
We're talking about her.
She's entertaining.
Just as Max and Ruby is a cartoon that my kids love.
It's this little rabbit show.
It's a fucking show.
It's entertaining.
Maybe not to you.
brendon walsh
I've never heard of it.
I don't have kids.
joe rogan
To someone, this Kardashian show is fucking awesome.
brendon walsh
Oh, I guess so.
joe rogan
To that person, they deserve it.
As ridiculous as it is.
So, I don't know.
I don't know if the Armenians claim her, but they should.
brian redban
You see that?
joe rogan
She's a badass bitch when it comes to being good at that.
brendon walsh
Oh, like Paris Hilton?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, she took the Paris Hilton thing to some completely new level to the point where every time I'm at the airport, I'm throwing my fucking sneakers into a bin.
I'm looking at her face.
There's like ads where it's her and a couple other famous people.
And I'm like, wow, this girl started off in a fucking porno movie.
And now I'm putting my change on her face.
This is so strange.
I love it.
I love the madness of it.
I love how ridiculous it is.
I've gotten to the point where I love Rick Perry.
I see him talk and I know he's a stuttering fuck.
I know he's just like Bush.
I know he's going to do the exact same shit, maybe even weirder.
Oh, dude, yeah.
Josh Brolin playing W in the movie.
That's what he reminds me of.
And I look at him, but I like it.
I like that he's there.
I'm enjoying that he's there.
brendon walsh
I mean, yeah, but then it's just like, so...
joe rogan
I don't know what it is.
brendon walsh
Just giving up on everything.
I mean, I'm kind of in the same boat where it's like, all right, I can either be walking around furious out of my mind all the time, or just don't really pay attention to it and enjoy the absurdity of it all.
joe rogan
Is it possible?
brendon walsh
Like, watching Mitt Romney and Rick Perry, like, I just saw on the news, I don't know, they were, like, debating each other, and it's like...
joe rogan
Who's crazier?
Who believes in crazier shit?
brendon walsh
They're the same dude!
Like, that's, like, from an 80s movie.
They're, like, politicians.
They're, like, the archetype, like, bad politician guy from, like, an 80s movie or something.
It's just, like, this, like, robot dude.
They're both exactly the same.
And that's like your choice.
joe rogan
We're getting a real clear message with politics over the last decade or so.
It's that what you're seeing on television, the people that are talking, that's the guy who got that spot.
That's all that is.
And that guy is instructed, he's pushed into a certain direction by all the people who got him to that position.
It's so clear.
It's so obvious.
There can be no denying it.
When you look at it now, to take it seriously, as in, you know, to take it to think that there's really some sort of a big vote going on and we're going to change the way the whole thing works.
Hey, I hear they're going to throw out the Federal Reserve.
Really?
Yeah, it's going to go back to the only living by the Constitution.
We're going to cut the number of laws back dramatically.
We're going to let people have states' rights again.
Yeah, we're going to get rid of all these...
How long would that last?
brendon walsh
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
They would kill that guy.
They would kill that guy in a heartbeat.
brendon walsh
Oh, yeah, of course.
joe rogan
We all agree to that, right?
brendon walsh
Just the guy saying, like, no, I don't think I can sign that bill called the Clean Air Act that actually lets you pollute more.
joe rogan
Well, people tell you, well, that's ridiculous.
You're being cynical.
This is a terrible message to send out.
You haven't really researched this enough to be absolutely accurate, and yet you're saying this damaging thing that voting doesn't change anything, and you're sending a terrible message to people.
But at what point in time are you allowed to be objective?
At what point in time do you look at a guy like Obama who acts like a Republican and does all this creepy shit that if GW was doing it, liberals would be fucking calling in to newspapers every day and protesting every day?
He's doing shit that's just like the stuff that Bush did.
And yet somehow or another, yeah, absolutely.
Somehow or another, liberals aren't even saying anything about it.
It's so bizarrely creepy and so bizarrely weird.
Just like Windows versus PC. It's like the same sort of retard battle going on.
It's the same sort of weird control over some fucking boat that doesn't even have a steering wheel.
It's like one day you break into the fucking main cabin.
Alright, we finally got to the head of the boat.
There's no steering wheel on this fucking boat.
There's nothing.
There's no instruments.
It's smooth as glass.
You can't affect this fucking thing at all.
You could spend your whole life chipping away at this insanely corrupt system.
Good luck.
Look at when you see anybody that challenges any of the mainstream ideas that we've come to accept.
Look at a guy like Ron Paul.
They duck that fucking guy every chance they get.
brendon walsh
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
I've seen polls where they ignore the number one guy and focus on the two and three.
The real battle between Rick Perry and Mitt Romney.
And they were literally ignoring that Ron Paul was winning things.
Just ignoring him.
Just not even talking about him.
Because he's just telling them they're doing everything wrong.
We're doing everything wrong.
The people are going, yes!
And the TV people are going, oh, no, no.
brendon walsh
When Howard Dean said, yeah!
But he fucked up.
But is that really fucking up?
joe rogan
He fucked up.
I think they set him up, too.
brendon walsh
I mean, it was manipulated.
They took that footage and really twisted it into something.
joe rogan
Well, I remember it was morning mattress material.
There was a show that I always think of when I think of morning shows.
Charles Laquadera, The Mattress in the Morning in Boston.
Oh, okay.
They would play something along these lines.
So you know that every fucking single wacky morning zoo radio station played it.
He had that crazy yell that he yelled out.
And it became a joke.
It became a national joke in a matter of days.
You remember it, right?
Howard Dean did a campaign speech, and he's like, And then we're going to Vermont!
Then we're going to go to New Hampshire!
And all they did was take that yeah, and they're like, no fucking way, dude.
You can't ever yeah like that and be president.
brendon walsh
They took it from his body mic when he was yelling to a couple thousand people.
joe rogan
Granted, but could you imagine if Obama ever yeah!
I'd like that.
brendon walsh
Well, ever since Howard Dean did that, you're not allowed to show any emotion anymore.
I mean, they have playbooks now where they're like, no, don't show any emotion.
Just put the, this is still in when you make your fist, put your thumb out a little.
joe rogan
Isn't it amazing?
brendon walsh
And don't ever answer a fucking question.
No matter what you do, never fucking give a direct...
Definitive answer.
joe rogan
And once people decide that Howard Dean is done, Howard Dean is done.
He's just pushed to the side.
He was the front runner.
He was the number one guy.
brendon walsh
A surgeon from Vermont.
joe rogan
Brilliant man.
Brilliant man.
brendon walsh
Great speaker.
Got a little emotional.
joe rogan
Good morals.
Get the fuck out of here.
I kind of like him even more now because he's so uncensored when he talks about things.
Vermont's a very interesting place, too.
He's from Vermont.
It's amazing.
It's really northern and rural, but it's really smart.
brendon walsh
Have you ever done a gig there?
joe rogan
Yeah, I've done a gig in Burlington when I was living in Boston.
I did a weekend there once.
It was fucking great, man.
I was like, wow, what a crazy...
And they were like, winters are tough, though.
brendon walsh
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's what everybody said.
brendon walsh
I have a friend who lives in Brattleboro.
Yeah?
Yeah, winters are fucking...
I wouldn't want to be there in a winter.
joe rogan
There's a certain quality of your life that you sacrifice when you live in some place that's brutally cold.
brendon walsh
Well, it's the way it's so rural that everybody's got a 45-foot kind of dirt driveway thing, and then when it snows and freezes, it's like, I can't drive my truck down there.
It'll fucking slide into a tree.
joe rogan
Well, up in Big Bear, a lot of people drive around with fucking chains on.
Yeah, you can do that.
I think you're required in certain areas, at least you used to be.
I know they make studded snow tires and shit, so you can deal with that.
A lot of people in Colorado, they have that.
brendon walsh
No, chains are required, yeah.
joe rogan
But a place like Vermont, it's fucking cold for a good five or six months.
It's really cold.
Fuck is it beautiful up there, though, man.
It's one of the few places that's like...
It hasn't been fucked with.
It's a fairly small population, and it's got an incredible amount of wildlife, an incredible amount of woods, and just beautiful nature shit to look at.
When you're driving, they drive up to Burlington, and you're like, God, look how beautiful it is.
Just clear air, and not that many people.
brendon walsh
No outdoor advertising in Vermont, too.
No billboards, no outdoor...
joe rogan
You can't advertise outdoors?
Wow.
Yeah, they're real hippie.
That's where Ben and Jerry comes from.
brendon walsh
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, Ben and Jerry's ice cream?
They came from Vermont.
They're real super hippie up there.
Are they up there still?
brian redban
Yeah, you can actually go to the factory.
joe rogan
And do the dudes live up there too?
Or do they fucking fake it and they're in Miami?
Kidding, they dick suck!
brendon walsh
What?
I don't know.
Sucking each other's dick.
joe rogan
Can you imagine if they just became super rich and then just became ballers, but then they'd have to put on the fucking Birkenstocks for their ad campaigns.
They just want to be out there doing blow.
brendon walsh
That's a funny idea.
That'd be a funny sketch for mad TV. Fake hippies.
Like fake Ben and Jerry.
Those guys, and when they get big, they're like P. Diddy and fucking just totally shit.
joe rogan
Or Ben and Jerry's becomes like McDonald's where a different guy plays it in every store.
unidentified
Hey, I'm Ben.
joe rogan
I'm Jerry.
We started off this company.
You have a fucking Ben and Jerry's show that goes on before the actual ice cream gets served.
I'm Ben and he's Jerry.
brendon walsh
Are you sure?
joe rogan
I thought I was Jerry.
Yes.
Yeah, how the fuck did that McDonald's thing happen?
Remember when there's like real clowns dressing up as McDonald's and you can go to McDonald's like certain days and Ronald McDonald would be there and you're like, holy shit, there's a guy, Ronald McDonald's gonna be at this, and people get excited about it.
How ruthless is McDonald's?
brendon walsh
They still do that.
I had a roommate who was a clown.
unidentified
Really?
brendon walsh
He would do Ronald McDonald shit, appearances.
joe rogan
Amazing, man.
What a tricky way to rope kids in and eat your fucking food.
brendon walsh
Yeah, man.
joe rogan
I always used to think that about, you know, when you think about the most delicious cereal, it's all the worst shit for you.
And it's all the ones with the big, attractive cartoon faces on it.
Like, it literally is designed to get little kids to go, ooh, look!
Like, it speaks to them.
brendon walsh
A cereal called Cookie Crisp.
That's not going to be appealing to a kid.
joe rogan
Well, you could have a cereal box that was all white that said, Captain Crunch, peanut butter.
And you would look at it and go, fuck yeah.
You could be completely white with black letter.
But to a kid, that's going to be completely unattractive.
Because they can't fucking read.
They're getting them before they even can read.
All the little kid has to see that and go, I want this, I want this.
My three-year-old can't read, but she looks at Captain Crunch and it looks fun.
brendon walsh
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, you look at Fruity Pebbles, it looks fun.
brian redban
Dude, what's up with the Booberry?
brendon walsh
They still make Booberry and all that?
brian redban
Yeah, I saw it yesterday.
Did you know Booberry in Ohio, there was no such thing as Booberry.
They had only the strawberry and the chocolate.
But then I would go on vacation in Florida.
brendon walsh
What was the Frankenstein thing?
brian redban
Frankenberry.
brendon walsh
Frankenberry and...
Okay.
joe rogan
Did you feel left out?
Did you feel like...
brian redban
I would go to Florida on vacation and buy boxes of it as a kid.
brendon walsh
Load up a U-Haul with Boo-Berry?
brian redban
Yeah, my mom would be like, Mom, please.
This is my favorite series.
I should spend like $30 and buy as much Boo-Berry for $30.
brendon walsh
Really?
joe rogan
Did you feel discriminated against?
brian redban
It was rude.
There's no reason for that.
Boo-Berry's the best one and you don't sell it in certain markets.
brendon walsh
I don't think I've ever had Boo-Berry.
brian redban
Oh, it's great.
brendon walsh
Or the strawberry one.
My folks wouldn't buy us the sugary stuff.
I mean, I've had it as an adult.
joe rogan
Good for them.
Good for them.
My parents bought it very sparingly.
They let us have it every now and then.
You'd pick a favorite.
Be able to just eat this stupid shit.
They would indulge us.
They would also let us eat TV dinners.
We wanted to eat TV dinners for some stupid reason.
They're disgusting.
But for whatever reason, the Salisbury steak.
I was like, oh, I want to eat a TV dinner.
I wanted to eat the dumbest shit.
So they would let me every now and then.
But for the most part, they wanted me to eat healthy.
So I didn't get to eat too many of those.
But when I could, when I got a chance, man...
brendon walsh
Fuck yeah.
Well, like what we were talking about earlier.
Once you tell people they can't do shit, then it's on.
It's like, really?
I want some of that.
joe rogan
Yeah, imagine if you grew up vegan.
You would just like hunger for chicken livers and...
brendon walsh
Yeah.
joe rogan
Hearts and meat and legs of lamb.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You smell it in restaurants and know you can never have it.
brendon walsh
Glasses of curdled milk.
joe rogan
Yeah, no shit.
You're just getting seeds.
Here, eat these seeds.
They have a full spectrum of alpha-lipoic acids.
It's all vital nutrients.
Eat these seeds.
You can get everything and just the seeds.
brendon walsh
Yeah.
joe rogan
Okay.
brendon walsh
Yeah, I don't know.
joe rogan
Could you ever go vegan?
brendon walsh
I'd give it a shot.
I mean, I wouldn't have any...
I mean, just for kind of like to see how it makes me feel and like to kind of clean out.
Like, you know, just eating kind of raw.
I would do like raw diet or...
I don't know much about it, but I'd try like...
I think, yeah, I could go vegan.
unidentified
Not fish.
brendon walsh
I like fish too much.
joe rogan
I like eggs too.
I could try vegetarian for a little while.
I think there's some merit to vegetarian.
I think it definitely probably changes your personality, too.
I think it's been, at least with anecdotal evidence, proven that people who eat meat are more aggressive than people who are vegetarians.
It kind of makes sense.
If you think about just the nature aspect of it, even though we're not going out and getting the stuff, even though we're not killing it ourselves, we're still eating it.
We're still getting it.
brendon walsh
You're eating flesh.
joe rogan
So the attitude that you must have, like cultivating your body, if you're a flesh eater, a constant flesh eater, it's got to be a more predatory attitude.
It just makes sense.
brendon walsh
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, I don't know how the real...
brendon walsh
Or it probably just keeps something triggered in your body of, like, you know...
joe rogan
I'm totally guessing here.
Totally talking out of my ass.
Because, obviously, I don't know how the real reward system works with, like, eating meat and getting aggressive.
But we all associate, like, steak with aggression.
It's like a natural association.
You know, a fucking...
What's a man's meal?
brendon walsh
Yeah.
Makes sense to me.
Sold.
I'm doing no further research.
I'm going to repeat what you said as fact to other people now.
joe rogan
I think if we all ate shit that was grass-fed, if we all ate just grass-fed beef, there would be way less of it, but it'd be way better for you.
And people would probably enjoy it more.
But there's certainly, at this point, I think there's just too many goddamn people and not enough food to live like that.
brendon walsh
That scares me, man.
unidentified
It's terrifying.
brendon walsh
I mean, there are a lot of, you know...
joe rogan
We would have to have monstrous, monstrous farms to compete with some of these crazy chicken farms where they fucking grow them all stuffed together.
That freaks everybody out when you watch those chicken videos.
But if they weren't like that, how much farm acreage would it cost?
How much more would it cost?
Is it at a point where we need cheap food so much that they have to do shit like this?
Because that's fucked up.
And I'm not insinuating that they are.
I'm just raising the question.
That is fucked up.
If that's the case, if it's like we need to do the factory farming thing because there's fucking way too many of us, and they're just sending chickens out the moment they shit them out, they're fucking pumping them out with hormones because they've got to get them big quick so they can ship them out to the 300 million motherfuckers.
And out of those 300 million, how many are farmers?
How many out of 300 million people are farmers?
Is it even a million?
No, it's not one in 300. One in 300 people isn't a farmer.
Do you think there's a million farmers in this country?
Is there a million?
brian redban
Yeah, I'd probably say there's different kinds of farmers.
brendon walsh
I don't know, man.
unidentified
A million?
brendon walsh
Either way.
joe rogan
Let's look at it.
Obviously, folks, for you Googling right now, looking back, these fucking guys are so off with their numbers!
brendon walsh
Uh-huh.
joe rogan
All I'm trying to say is, could you imagine, if that was the case, if it was one in every 300, could you imagine if one person had to take care of 300 fucking people?
brendon walsh
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's ridiculous.
brendon walsh
Yeah, I guess.
I don't know.
brian redban
I would just eat a lot of water.
joe rogan
You imagine one person, you had to feed 300 people.
brendon walsh
That's true, one person on your own.
joe rogan
One person feeds 300 people.
What the fuck?
That would be so hard.
No, you'd have to do it by yourself.
You couldn't employ anybody because we have 300 million people.
In order for our numbers to work, you can't employ anyone because it's one out of 300. And we're being super generous.
We're saying there's one million farmers.
So that's where it gets fucking Looney Tunes, man.
Obviously it doesn't work like that.
They have 100 people and they do the work of 5,000 individuals or more.
I know obviously it doesn't work like that, but it almost seems like at this point the resources versus population is in a weird place where we need an incredible amount of food and we all sort of take for granted that it's out there.
Who's providing all of this?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's a lot of fucking food.
brendon walsh
And if the three of us went out right now and had like two hours to just buy as much food as possible, we could each buy so much fucking food.
unidentified
Yeah, instantly.
joe rogan
It's amazing.
brendon walsh
Like just fast food.
Like if we had like an hour to buy unlimited fast food, like we could buy probably, I mean...
brian redban
A van full.
brendon walsh
More, yeah.
250 cheeseburgers a piece.
joe rogan
It's just, to me, staggering the way we have grown from being hunter-gatherers to people who lived in small villages to cities where we have to get the stuff sent in every day in trucks.
Just more meat for the wheel over and over again.
Trucks and trucks of meat are just pumping into the city all day long.
And it's really only been going on for a few hundred years.
That's nuts, man.
That's amazing.
It's almost like there's a living machine called civilization, and its blood is animals.
brendon walsh
I mean, not even a few hundred, really.
joe rogan
It's pumped alive by blood.
The blood in the trucks, it's almost like individual blood cells, but it's not.
It's on a much larger scale.
It's like, yeah, just meat delivery devices.
These are the meat delivery devices to the city that keeps it...
Moving at this insane pace where you can fit 7 million people on one square floating place and have them stacked on top of each other.
And you just keep sending the meat.
brendon walsh
I saw that movie Contagion yesterday.
joe rogan
Did it freak you out?
brendon walsh
It didn't really freak me out.
I don't think it sucked.
brian redban
I heard a lot of people say it sucked.
brendon walsh
I liked it.
But tell me if this is right.
Does Tokyo have 36 million people?
brian redban
Something crazy like that.
They're packed in there.
brendon walsh
That blew my fucking mind.
Because they were talking, you know, like as the thing, I mean, everybody knows enough that it's about a disease that spreads.
And they would show like, you know, New York population, whatever, 8 million, whatever lives in New York, California, or Los Angeles population, this, and then they would go to Tokyo and it said 36.4 million.
And I was like...
joe rogan
That's incredible.
brendon walsh
Do you think that's the goldfish rule?
brian redban
The bigger the bull, the bigger the fish.
And that's why Asians, for the most part, seem a little bit smaller built.
joe rogan
That's interesting.
That's very interesting, Brian.
That's an interesting physiological theory.
One that people would consider.
It's funny if you judge any group like that, say a lot of Asians are small, all of a sudden you're tipping on the verge of the swimming pool filled with racism.
Like right there, what are you saying?
Were you saying Asians are small?
brendon walsh
But there are actual statistics you can look at, like the average height and weight of them, like they are.
joe rogan
But still, it's a weird thing.
If you make an observation, there's always the danger of being called a racist.
Even a little observation.
It's not.
It's not at all.
brian redban
I dated a girl from Japan, and she took me on a picnic at a dog park.
That's racist.
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
That is racist.
Because I don't think Japanese people even eat dogs.
brian redban
No, but that's racist to think that they did.
brendon walsh
That joke's offensive on so many levels.
unidentified
The joke sucks.
joe rogan
The joke's a logical song.
More offensive on a comedic level.
Yeah, that joke makes people go, people don't eat dogs in Japan.
That's what they do.
They don't laugh.
You would get a whole audience filled with people going, people don't eat dogs in Japan.
That would be the sound in the audience.
People don't eat dogs in Japan.
brian redban
That's more racist than that.
joe rogan
Nobody eats dogs in Japan.
brian redban
Yeah, but that would be acceptable in the Midwest.
Yeah, they eat dogs in Japan.
I know they do.
joe rogan
It does make sense what you said, because in other animals, that is definitely the truth.
These guys that I know told me that they could get me some baby crocodiles.
I had a giant fish tank, and I was looking for some exotic shit.
I had piranhas for a little while.
I got bored with them, and I wanted to get some crocodiles.
brian redban
That seems like such a bad idea.
joe rogan
It's a terrible idea.
But this is what I was saying.
I was saying, okay, well, how big are these motherfuckers going to get?
Why would I have crocodiles?
He goes, we can get you crocodiles.
I go, you can get me crocodiles.
I go, how big are these crocodiles going to get?
He goes, oh, you don't have to worry about it.
I go, what do you mean?
He goes, as long as the tank is small, they won't get big.
I go, what?
brendon walsh
Really?
joe rogan
What?
brendon walsh
No way.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
Yes, yes, yes.
He said, how big's your tank?
It was like, I don't remember how big it was, but it was about nine feet long.
It was a really big fish tank.
And he said, maybe I'm exaggerating, seven feet long.
brendon walsh
It was a really big fish tank.
joe rogan
It was big.
It was very big.
He said, they'll never get more than a few inches.
brian redban
Did you get them?
joe rogan
No.
I think they're super illegal.
And I didn't know the dude that well.
And what if he was a fucking cup?
brendon walsh
What if it was a setup?
Turns out Rogan's in there.
unidentified
I got you some crocodiles, brother.
brian redban
My dad built this huge pond in his backyard.
And he got one of those 100 goldfish at a pet store.
Almost feeder goldfish.
Shitty goldfish.
Throws them in the pond.
He took a couple out and put them in this other separate pond.
The fish in the gold pond are still alive.
A lot of them are alive.
I would probably say like 20 of them are still alive.
And now they're huge.
Like they're monster goldfish.
The other two are normal goldfish.
Right.
joe rogan
Yeah.
That's amazing.
brian redban
Yeah.
They almost look like koi.
They almost look like koi.
joe rogan
Well, I think koi and goldfish are pretty related, aren't they?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
They look related.
Shit.
Yeah, what is it with kois and tattoos?
What's that supposed to signify?
The koi becomes a dragon or some shit?
Everybody's got koi fish.
brian redban
It's some Japan thing, I think.
joe rogan
Some dope-ass Japan shit?
brian redban
Japan's just a legend.
joe rogan
They figured out tattooing.
They figured out how to make a sleeve.
They're the ones who first figured that shit out.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
To make big, bold pieces.
You know, like the old days.
brendon walsh
Do you have a koi fish?
joe rogan
No, I don't have any koi fish.
I do have a dragon, though.
I have a tiger and a samurai.
How long have you been doing that?
This one's six years old and this one's two years old.
brendon walsh
Oh, you had that all done at the same time?
joe rogan
Yeah, this dude Aaron Delevadova from Guru Tattoo in San Diego.
He's a fucking badass artist.
And I just always enjoyed tattoos.
I always liked them.
I think you're wearing some cool art on your skin.
And there's a lot of people who attach a lot of weird shit to it.
You don't have to do it.
But to me, I take care of my body and I'm healthy and everything, but I want to decorate it the way I want to.
I don't give a fuck.
For some people, it's a weird thing.
It weirds them out.
Tattoos weird them out.
Tattoos weird people out because they're permanent.
When you have tattoos, it's like, he's willing to do something permanent.
brendon walsh
I have some dumb tattoos.
joe rogan
What do you got?
brendon walsh
I have Aussie rules tattooed on my toes.
joe rogan
Do you really?
brian redban
Are you serious?
brendon walsh
Before Aussie came back, like it was...
brian redban
That's weird.
joe rogan
How old were you when you got that?
brendon walsh
26. I was waiting to hear 33. 26, 27. Yeah.
But it was before the Osbournes and stuff.
Really?
Yeah, it was me and my friend were talking about...
joe rogan
Would you have done it or were you disappointed once the Osbournes came out?
Were you like, fuck man, now it's mainstream?
brendon walsh
Not really.
I mean, it's on my toes, but it definitely made the joke not funny anymore.
Because you used to see, like, Ozzy written bathroom style.
I used to see Ozzy rules written everywhere.
joe rogan
Right, right, right.
brendon walsh
And you just didn't see it anymore.
And I was like, Ozzy's still fucking rules, man.
Like, we saw this interview with him on, like, VH1 Behind the Music, me and my friend.
And they asked Ozzy what the key to happiness was.
And Ozzy said, the key to happiness is happy knees.
And they were like, what?
And he's like, happy knees.
The key to happiness is happy knees.
And I'm like, what are you talking about?
He stands up and pulls his pants down.
He's got smiley faces tattooed on his knees.
And he goes, happy knees.
Happy knees.
What?
I thought it was funny.
I was like, Ozzy rules, man.
joe rogan
It is funny.
It's just not funny enough to laugh.
It's like funny enough to smile.
brendon walsh
I don't know, man.
Ozzy was pretty.
He's a pretty funny character.
unidentified
Yeah.
brendon walsh
He did a lot of crazy shit.
joe rogan
It's amazing he's still alive, isn't it?
brendon walsh
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, he's one of those dudes that you're like, wow, he made it through.
brendon walsh
Yeah, and now he's like this mainstream, like, did you ever think you'd see Ozzy Osbourne doing like a fucking, I don't know, he's in some like...
joe rogan
A sitcom sort of a thing with his wife and his kids on TV. Well, there's that, but commercials too.
brendon walsh
You see them in pretty mainstream commercials.
unidentified
Really?
brendon walsh
Like fucking, yeah, for like direct TV and shit.
unidentified
Yeah.
brian redban
It's weird.
brendon walsh
Or, like, cars, probably?
unidentified
I don't know.
brendon walsh
I don't really pay attention.
joe rogan
I think as we get older, we're more willing to take shit from crazy people that we like than we ever were before.
Like, look, this Chris Brown dude who beat up that Rihanna chick, he's sort of making a comeback.
Yeah, I guess.
It's like all these award shows and shit, and apparently he's super talented, a great singer, and there's some people that are accepting it, some people not.
Look at this Michael Vick thing.
Michael Vick killed a bunch of dogs in his back planet.
You can't tell me this is the same world that I grew up in, because this is a different world.
This is a different world.
This is a stranger world.
People are getting away with more.
brendon walsh
People are more forgiving because more people are fucking up and doing weirder, creepier shit because of the internet and stuff, man.
joe rogan
The bar is going higher and higher.
brendon walsh
People are doing more deviant shit, so they're like, well, let's not be so hard on that guy because, I don't know, maybe I want to fucking try some of that weird shit or whatever.
joe rogan
Don't you think that people have bounced back from shit that they could have never bounced back from before?
brendon walsh
You know, sports, yeah, I think Michael Vick is definitely something that wouldn't have happened 25 years ago.
joe rogan
I'm shocked.
brendon walsh
But, I mean, when you're that, like, yeah, I think the morals of our entire cultures have just been eroded a little bit.
Like, yeah.
I don't think that would have been acceptable in the early 80s.
joe rogan
It doesn't seem like it would.
It's all so fascinating.
brendon walsh
You have a guy that talented, too, who can, you know.
But yeah, I just, I don't think money overrode everything 25 years ago.
joe rogan
Could you imagine if Clinton was in office today?
Could you imagine all the Twitter messages that interns would be throwing back and forth?
Because he would get busted, for sure, way quicker if he was in office today.
brendon walsh
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Think about the crazy shit that dude did.
brendon walsh
So many more avenues of him.
joe rogan
He was always my proof.
When he got his dick sucked by that chick, I was always like, God damn it, I fucking knew it!
I knew it!
I knew they have to be crazy to get in there.
You can't really be that guy you're selling, man.
You can't.
You're not going to have the kind of energy...
brendon walsh
I mean, everybody likes blowjobs, though, man.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Everybody likes blowjobs, but Clinton would just whip his dick out on people.
He would just get alone with girls and just whip his dick out.
brendon walsh
Really?
Was he that out of control?
joe rogan
Oh, he was a maniac.
He's a fucking savage.
God bless him.
Yeah, I guess.
He's just one of those dudes who just couldn't help but swing.
I can't help but swing.
I saw the pitch.
Here it comes.
He just loved it.
brendon walsh
Yeah, I mean, there were a lot of chicks doing that to him.
joe rogan
Could you imagine if he existed during the, you know, the days of today of Wienergate?
unidentified
Could he have been set up, though?
joe rogan
Fuck yeah, he could have been set up.
I bet he liked to get drunk.
I bet he liked to get drunk and bang state troopers.
Like, hot police troopers.
brendon walsh
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know?
brian redban
How hot would that be?
The back of a police car?
brendon walsh
There's a lot of girls.
joe rogan
There's a lot of girls.
I bet his pussy output tripled after that Monica Lewinsky thing.
Because there's a lot of girls that just want to let him know and then keep their mouth shut.
Listen, I know you had that problem with Monica, but she's a little girl, and it's not me, and I'm a grown woman, and I know what I want, and what I want is you, and I don't need anything other than you in my mouth, and that's the end of it.
And he'd be like, well, hell.
I don't think we've said enough.
He was just dropping loads on dresses and shit.
He wasn't even insisting she'd get rid of the evidence.
unidentified
Maybe this could make people in another part of the world with my DNA. We can't have that.
brendon walsh
He seemed to be a good president, though.
joe rogan
Yeah, he was a freak, though.
Stuck in fucking cigars and bitches' pussies.
brian redban
That's so funny.
joe rogan
I don't know if he was a good president, man.
I don't know.
brendon walsh
I don't know.
joe rogan
Maybe when he was on the show, the writers had it written in a more happy, friendly way.
brendon walsh
I thought you were insinuating he did your podcast.
joe rogan
Did you imagine?
brian redban
He was on the show?
brendon walsh
Let's start a lobby to get him on the show.
joe rogan
I am the president for eight years.
And it was, for the most part, bright times.
brendon walsh
I think he was kind of the last good guy in there.
I mean, there's only been...
joe rogan
Buzzy, though?
Buzzy?
I don't know.
brendon walsh
I don't know.
Obama's probably a good guy.
joe rogan
I don't know if any of them are good guys.
I'm not sure what I believe anymore.
brendon walsh
You've got to do some fucked up shit to get that far.
joe rogan
Yeah, I don't think you could be just some regular fucking dude with some unique ideas and get all the way to be president.
You have to have compromised yourself so deeply along the line.
Obviously, I've done no research whatsoever to substantiate any of these claims.
brendon walsh
Makes sense, though.
joe rogan
This is just talking shit at 10 o'clock in the evening, after being in the hot sun all day and barely able to talk.
I don't know.
I don't believe it, though.
Do you believe it?
brendon walsh
Oh, that a good guy can make it this far?
joe rogan
No.
How much say do they ultimately have?
brendon walsh
You have to agree to letting unspeakable things happen on the regular.
Yeah, how much say?
joe rogan
How much say do you think you have?
unidentified
Do you think you could even rewrite the script?
I would like to say it a different way if it's okay with everyone else.
joe rogan
Well, a lot of people don't believe that that's the case.
A lot of people believe that it was Lee Harvey Oswald and he got lucky and that people make a big deal out of nothing.
brendon walsh
Yeah, maybe.
Yeah.
Maybe.
I mean, you know, Kennedy, Martin Luther King, both Kennedys.
I mean, it just seems like anybody who's kind of like steering us towards some decent change winds up with their fucking head blown off by a lone fucking crazy gunman.
unidentified
Yeah.
brendon walsh
Even John Lennon, dude.
Like, I mean, that dude could have started a revolution.
He was like the...
He's a really popular guy.
joe rogan
Isn't it just so tempting to fall into the idea of conspiracy and collusion?
It's very sexy.
It's very tempting.
brendon walsh
But, I mean, it doesn't seem like there's balance on the other side.
Like, why didn't Nixon ever get shot?
Or, like, I mean, Reagan did.
I guess that's a...
joe rogan
You mean balance on the side?
brendon walsh
Yeah, Reagan did.
joe rogan
He was one of the most rah-rah of all.
brendon walsh
But, like...
I don't know.
It seems like, you know, Gandhi.
Like, there's no...
Well, is it possible?
Dick Cheney never got fucking shot at.
joe rogan
Because he was on Team Psycho.
And is it possible that the psychos...
brendon walsh
They're always going to be the good guys.
joe rogan
Yeah, they target the guys who are for peace and love and change.
brendon walsh
Of course!
joe rogan
Right?
brendon walsh
Yeah.
joe rogan
But they went after Reagan.
brendon walsh
I wonder, Reagan might have been...
Maybe that was a random thing.
Maybe that really wasn't planned because he didn't die.
Or maybe they were just sending him a message.
unidentified
Oh!
joe rogan
I remember watching that on TV going, God damn, they shot that actor dude who's now the president.
brendon walsh
Somebody has a joke about him and Leslie.
If he never became president, he would have the same career that Leslie Nielsen had.
I forget whose fucking joke it is.
joe rogan
Oh, that's brilliant.
It's so true.
Bedtime for Bonzo.
Did you ever see that?
brendon walsh
I don't know.
joe rogan
I mean, I'm familiar with it.
brendon walsh
Yeah, yeah.
He did a couple.
There's a couple Bonzo movies, aren't there?
joe rogan
I think so.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I've watched like five seconds of it and go, what the fuck is going on?
brendon walsh
I think he's in more than one monkey movie.
joe rogan
It just shouldn't be legal that if you're a person who is a professional pretender that you go on to be the guy who tells the truth to the nation.
That just seems ridiculous.
You're like really awesome at lying.
brendon walsh
Yeah, well, it was just like, I don't think, now him, I don't think he made one decision the whole time.
I think there were people, there was like Dick Cheney was telling him what to say.
Like there was a commission of fucking assholes who were like, alright, this is what we're doing.
Here's the script.
You're an actor!
unidentified
Act!
joe rogan
You know what I loved?
brendon walsh
Kick him out through the door.
joe rogan
He's responsible for one little speech that is one of my favorite speeches of any president.
Because he talks about how would we respond if we were all on this earth facing a threat from another world.
brendon walsh
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
How would we respond?
How quickly would we forget our differences?
I'm like, damn.
That's brilliant.
It's so true.
It's a great speech.
And it makes you go, what the fuck does he know?
unidentified
Well, yeah.
brendon walsh
He was really into the fucking Star Wars shit, too.
He wanted to make that missile defense system start.
Maybe the aliens were like, hey, man, we're going to fuck with you guys soon.
I don't know.
Who knows what's going on with all that?
brian redban
Didn't George Lucas, during the Star Wars thing, go, hey, this is copyright infringement.
unidentified
Did he?
Why were they allowed to call it Star Wars program?
brendon walsh
I guess because they're not...
brian redban
They're allowed to do anything they want?
brendon walsh
I don't know.
They're a government.
But they're not doing it for profit.
brian redban
Yeah.
brendon walsh
You know, it's a defense...
joe rogan
You know, there's some big conspiracy theory about people who created Star Wars, the strategic defense system Star Wars, that it was all bullshit, and that the scientists, one by one, have been killed off.
Apparently, 22 different scientists who worked on it were killed in strange ways.
brian redban
Are you serious?
joe rogan
Asphyxiation, suffocation, decapitation, death leap, death leap, shotgun blast, missing person, auto accident...
Over and over again, all these different scientists.
brendon walsh
I don't want this knowledge.
joe rogan
According to the internet.
brendon walsh
Oh.
It's corroborated by more than one dude.
joe rogan
The first thing I went to on Google.
brendon walsh
I'm going to regurgitate that as fact.
joe rogan
Just go for it, dude.
22. 22 SDI researchers all supposedly committed suicide.
brendon walsh
22 out of how many?
joe rogan
That's a good question.
But 22 period.
brendon walsh
That's a lot.
joe rogan
Let's say if there's a hundred.
brendon walsh
If comedians started dying like that, I'd fucking skip town.
joe rogan
Yeah, that would be gross.
Would it be hundreds?
How many people you would think that would be?
brendon walsh
What?
joe rogan
If they did that.
brendon walsh
If they started killing comedians?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendon walsh
Oh, I was just saying if 22 comedians died in suspicious ways, I would fucking, you know, that's too big of a number for one.
joe rogan
But out of all the...
brian redban
I would get a puppet immediately.
joe rogan
Out of all the scientists that were involved, no, no, I'm sorry, my question was, do you think there was like 300 guys?
How many different guys do you think were working for this Star Wars company?
Was it a thousand?
brendon walsh
I would say thousands.
brian redban
Yeah, I would say thousands.
brendon walsh
But that would be from this janitor.
joe rogan
22 killed themselves, man?
brian redban
Yeah.
brendon walsh
Or just disappear.
joe rogan
As the number becomes bigger and bigger, it becomes more and more silly.
You start looking at it, you go, well, there was a million scientists, 22 killed themselves.
brendon walsh
But there's not a bunch of them.
There wouldn't be that many that had crazy...
Not everybody has, like, crazy security levels.
Like, you wouldn't have to kill everybody.
Like, every guy that's screwed in a fucking light bulb.
joe rogan
Well, maybe you would, though.
Because maybe what was going on was so fucking obvious, you had a clean house.
This is the conspiracy theorator in me.
unidentified
Step back and do my Alex Jones voice.
What we've got here is a situation where special ops, what they're doing is they're victimizing innocent people...
brendon walsh
That's fucking good, man!
Thank you.
brian redban
Did you hear 100% of the scientists that created Crystal Pepsi died?
brendon walsh
Shut the fuck up.
joe rogan
Could you imagine if that is true?
We know there's 22 scientists that died.
We need to find out how many there were.
brendon walsh
Make a documentary.
brian redban
Did you hear about the collider thing?
joe rogan
I should go to Snopes for all this.
That's what I should do.
brian redban
The guy that said he's from the future?
unidentified
What's that?
brian redban
That was arrested at the collider last week.
joe rogan
What?
brian redban
Yeah, some guy was arrested at the, what's it called?
The hydrogen?
joe rogan
Large Hadron Collider.
brian redban
Yeah, he was arrested because, I don't know what he was doing, but he said he was from the future.
joe rogan
Oh, what a dummy.
brendon walsh
Oh, that's funny.
Was he just crazy or was he from the future?
unidentified
I don't know.
brian redban
I just saw it headlined.
joe rogan
What a goofy fuck.
brendon walsh
That's a funny idea, show up there in a silver suit.
joe rogan
Yeah, you just have to ask him a few more questions and it'll be pretty clear.
Oh, you come from the future.
Okay.
Want to elaborate?
There was one guy who had a website.
There was a...
Fuck, I forget the scam.
Titor somewhere?
I think they were calling themselves something Titor from the future.
They had this whole John Titor, T-I-T-O-R, and some whole thing about how he described how...
No, John Cusack, bro.
brian redban
Huh?
No, they have Nicolas Cage.
joe rogan
They have John Cusack because he never looks any older.
Oh, you know what?
I'm sorry.
No, not even John Cusack.
The other dude from The Matrix.
brendon walsh
Keanu Reeves.
joe rogan
Keanu Reeves.
They have him in The Time Machine.
They're always saying that he's a vampire because he never gets old.
Yeah, he's a beautiful man.
brendon walsh
It's like 50. Johnny Depp's holding up okay, isn't he?
joe rogan
He's holding up pretty goddamn good.
brendon walsh
Is that like they both have kind of Indian blood in them, right?
joe rogan
You know what that's from?
Fresh pussy.
brendon walsh
Like vampires.
joe rogan
Like vampires.
The pussy that's constantly swan diving under their cock every time they poke it out the house for some air.
brendon walsh
Put it through their mail slot.
joe rogan
Nicolas Cage might be a vampire.
Or so one believer says, oh, there's a photo from an old-ass photo that looks like Nicolas Cage.
brian redban
Yeah, it's creepy.
joe rogan
Wow, that's pretty dope.
brendon walsh
He's in a movie called Vampire's Kiss that's pretty funny.
joe rogan
He's the Ghost Rider, bro.
Did you see Ghost Rider?
brendon walsh
Never saw that.
unidentified
Is that good?
joe rogan
No, it's terrible.
But it's good if you're high and you know it's terrible.
If you're ready for a terrible fucking ghost motorcycle superhero movie, yeah.
brendon walsh
You have little girls, right?
Yeah.
Did you ever watch The Tooth Fairy with The Rock?
joe rogan
The Tooth Fairy with The Rock?
No, I missed that one.
brendon walsh
I watched that, man.
joe rogan
Why did you watch that?
brendon walsh
Because it was like late.
I took mushrooms with my friend.
And it was just that kind of like after we're done tripping, but we're still like, you know, up and hanging out.
And that was coming on HBO. And we're like, fuck it, let's watch it.
It's probably good for a few laughs.
And we had to rewind it like 40 minutes in because we couldn't follow what was going on.
Like, it's baffling.
Like, there's so many holes in it.
Like, he has this relationship with this woman.
But you don't know if they're married and there's these kids.
It's weird.
You don't know his relationship.
It's not his wife and kids, but he's hanging around there and he never kisses the woman.
It's never really clear on why he turns into a tooth fairy.
He says something like, yeah, the tooth fairy's bullshit, kid.
At one point.
And then all of a sudden he's in this weird tooth fairy land.
unidentified
Yeah.
brendon walsh
And he's got to be the Tooth Fairy.
It's kind of like it's...
joe rogan
It sounds awesome.
brendon walsh
And then Billy Crystal makes an appearance, and I totally called it, like, because he, like, goes through Tooth Fairy training, you know, learns how to fly, all fucking bumping into it.
joe rogan
What?
There's a Tooth Fairy training?
brendon walsh
Well, yeah, it's like, yeah, it's like, you know...
joe rogan
Where's Tooth Fairy land?
brendon walsh
In his brain.
He probably just got hit on the head or something, and this was all in his head.
joe rogan
That was really the plot?
brendon walsh
Yeah, yeah.
And then he turns into the Tooth Fairy, and then we're watching it, and I was like, all right, Billy Crystal's old Jew character is going to make an appearance, or Whoopi Goldberg, or somebody like that.
And then fucking right there, Billy Crystal comes down this ladder like, okay, hold your horses, hold your...
And he gives him some books on how to be a Tooth Fairy, and...
And then he turns into the Tooth Fairy randomly, albeit out in public, and the wings just spur it out.
I feel like I'm losing momentum with trying to sell this shitty movie.
joe rogan
No, dude, you've got me in a trance.
You've got me in a trance.
That sounds ridiculous.
brendon walsh
It's really absurd.
joe rogan
But when you have kids, you understand ridiculous and absurd.
brendon walsh
It'll keep them quiet, man.
Oh, it keeps moving, but there aren't a lot of dots connected.
We're like, wait, how do we get from here?
It's like, oh, you just needed to get from here to here.
unidentified
And you just did it.
brendon walsh
And so you just put some thing in the middle.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's really like...
joe rogan
Now I'm going to see it.
And I'm going to be waiting for that.
I'm going to be waiting for the whole...
brendon walsh
Oh, it's riddled.
joe rogan
Are you doing something positive?
brendon walsh
I'm trying to open another root beer barrel, but I can't figure out how.
joe rogan
Oh, you silly, silly man.
unidentified
Can't figure it out.
joe rogan
We've got to change these microphones.
These microphones are too goddamn sensitive.
You're doing it down by your dick, and we're hearing it as if you're crackling.
brendon walsh
Yeah, I know.
Sorry.
joe rogan
These are the bags, the volcano bags.
I gave up on that volcano.
brendon walsh
Well, most people shouldn't be trying to open a hard candy during a...
joe rogan
What'd you say, Brian?
brian redban
That kind of mic would be worse, though.
joe rogan
Oh, really?
unidentified
Why?
brian redban
Yeah, because you're supposed to talk into it.
joe rogan
Yeah, but these are picking up everything in the room, dude.
brian redban
That does it times a million.
joe rogan
No, no, no.
That's less.
That's less, Brian.
Those are more vocal mics.
brian redban
Oh, really?
joe rogan
Yeah, that's less.
No, we tried it, remember?
It picked up way less ambient noise.
That's our next move as we expand.
We're going to move this thing out, too.
I'm going to get an office space.
brendon walsh
At the Ice House, right?
joe rogan
Well, we're going to do that, too.
We're going to do that, too.
But what we're going to do with the Ice House is we want to set it up so that comics getting offstage and going onstage can have a little different podcast.
Not my podcast, but we're going to call it an evening at the Ice House.
Whatever comic is there, within reason.
brendon walsh
They host it or whatever?
Yeah, whoever's there.
joe rogan
Yeah, if Brian's in town, he'll sit on it.
Whoever the fuck is in town, and we just keep rotating comics.
I'll do it.
Yeah, it'll be awesome.
It'll be great for all of us.
That'll be a lot of fun.
brendon walsh
No, that whole night with the stuff that you and Al were talking about, it's exciting.
joe rogan
It's great, right?
brendon walsh
Yeah.
joe rogan
We want to go there.
There's a place, the Ice House in Pasadena.
It's this really cool old club that's been around for like 35 years.
And they have this little tiny room.
brendon walsh
They just have like their 50th anniversary.
unidentified
Wow!
joe rogan
That's insane.
brian redban
That's the oldest one, right?
brendon walsh
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's insane.
unidentified
Fifty years.
brendon walsh
The Smothers Brothers and shit performed there.
unidentified
Goddamn.
brendon walsh
There are a lot of albums recorded there.
Like if you were to a thrift store and go through old comedy albums.
joe rogan
That's amazing.
brendon walsh
Pat Paulson.
joe rogan
It's a great, great club.
And there's two rooms.
There's the big room, which is very small.
It's only 185 people.
And then there's the...someone around there, right?
185, 190, something like that.
brendon walsh
That's about right.
joe rogan
Perfect size room, by the way.
Amazing setup.
It's an amazing setup.
And then there's another room that's really small.
It's only like 85 people.
It's 90. 90 people?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And we've been doing that.
We've been doing some sets there.
Brendan and I and Brian.
brian redban
We have one Friday.
joe rogan
Al Magical came down and Ari went up.
brendon walsh
Sam.
joe rogan
And you guys have one this Friday too?
brian redban
Yeah, we have it every Friday.
joe rogan
Yeah, and we're going to start doing that on a regular basis.
And as soon as I'm done with this Fear Factor stuff, which should be pretty soon, then we're going to move forward in different dynamic podcast directions.
So we'll call it an evening at the Ice House or something along those lines.
brian redban
Did we ever talk about that?
Remember when we brought up how David Letterman's social security number was on the wall?
joe rogan
Yeah, we didn't.
brian redban
And we went there like the following day.
joe rogan
Yeah, we don't know whether or not that really is still his social security number, whether they changed it.
brian redban
Well, they put it back up.
I was there just a few days ago or whatever.
joe rogan
Did they block it out?
brian redban
Yeah, they made a copy of it and it looks like the real one or they did something.
It's gone now though.
joe rogan
Well, we pointed it out to them.
We're like, you know, you can see David Letterman's social security number on this contract.
And they were like, no way.
brendon walsh
Oh, there's a picture of his contract?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
Like, lookie, we paid him.
brendon walsh
Oh, okay, near the bathroom.
unidentified
Yes, yes.
brendon walsh
There were a couple different ones.
Okay.
joe rogan
Yeah, and that one actually has a social security number on it.
brendon walsh
That's insane.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's ridiculous.
brendon walsh
It steals identity.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, that's what Brian already did.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
He's trying to like...
brendon walsh
Can you do that shit?
Like viruses and shit?
Like how?
I assume anybody who knows anything about computers can like hack and all my shit.
Because I don't know anything.
I'm really naive.
brian redban
I could do dumb shit.
Just tricky shit.
joe rogan
There's kids right now that are growing up from the time they're little kids.
They've been hacking into the registry and fucking with things and reading on forums and finding out how to do things and working on coding.
There's wizards out there, man.
They speak a language that we can't even fucking wrap our heads around.
There was a documentary on one small area, I think it was of Russia, I forget what eastern block country it was, but they had this one town where they have a disproportionate amount of internet scammers.
And virus makers and people stealing credit card numbers and they were all just driving Mercedes back and forth.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, all these computer people.
They just fucking hacked the matrix.
They found an area where oil would come up.
They drilled into it and then oil was coming up in their one spot.
It's amazing.
brendon walsh
Wow.
And it's all just identity theft and shit?
joe rogan
There's a lot of that going on, for sure.
There's a lot of, I mean, cybercrime.
I would like to know the statistics of what, you know, what has happened since the internet existed.
Like, is crime up?
Is crime down?
What kind of crime is more prevalent now that there's, you know, little online things that can rip people off?
brendon walsh
Yeah.
Probably some, like...
I don't know.
You're not leaving a paper trail with anything, so if you just go in and move numbers from one place to another...
joe rogan
It just would scare the fucking shit out of me to think that you would have anything important online, you know?
brendon walsh
Yeah, I'm pretty...
I mean, I guess that's one good thing of not really being a techie.
Like, I don't get excited about it.
I don't have anything...
Somebody could steal my laptop tomorrow and they wouldn't really know any more about me than if they stole one of my notebooks.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I always look at websites that are up and I say, these are only up because someone didn't target you.
That's it.
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
It's not like you could do anything about it.
What are you going to do about it?
You're not going to do shit.
It's like there's a wild west out there in some ways.
I mean, they can track some people down if they're really sloppy and they find out people that do certain things that shouldn't be doing.
But for the most part, it's pretty fucking crazy, you know?
brendon walsh
Well, those guys, like the Anonymous and LulzSec.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendon walsh
I was pretty amused by what they were doing.
unidentified
It's fascinating, right?
brendon walsh
But it is pretty scary where it's like, oh, fuck.
Those guys, if they can fuck with Sony for like a week, what could they do to me?
joe rogan
They're putting some of those dudes in jail, though.
unidentified
It's going to be an interesting story.
brendon walsh
Well, that's the other thing.
You're going to get fucking...
You don't get away with that kind of shit.
joe rogan
This is going to be like a bad...
brendon walsh
Government agencies.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's going to be a badass documentary that we'll be able to watch in like 10 years.
brendon walsh
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, have you ever watched a documentary on the Weather Underground?
brendon walsh
Yeah, I saw it, yeah.
joe rogan
Radical hippie movement in the 60s, wanted to get rid of the government.
It's a fascinating fucking documentary.
That's what this is going to be like.
brendon walsh
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know?
A decade from now, when we're even more oppressed, we'll look back at the time that the internet almost rose against...
Before they instituted the censorship on the internet.
That would really lock everything down.
That would either lock everything down or cause a civil war.
That would be the final push.
If the government regulated the internet the way the FCC regulates television or the way they regulate radio or anything.
If they told you what you could and couldn't put out there.
Because that's where it all got out of hand.
Everything was doing great until the 80s, and the 90s came along, and all of a sudden, people were getting their information from different places.
They were getting it from a fucking computer.
brendon walsh
But with that WikiLeaks guy, I mean, aren't they essentially like, it's like, you can't really put everyone out there.
joe rogan
Well, they locked that guy up, and they gave that guy some sort of a house arrest deal where he had to show up at the police station and check himself in every day.
And from what I understand, he's trying to fight being extradited.
He doesn't want to have to leave the country.
I have no idea what the fuck happened, but I do think that I don't believe that this would happen this way if he wasn't that guy.
I think it seems pretty obvious that someone's targeting him.
It doesn't seem kosher to me.
I don't believe she's even saying it was really rape.
It was by some really broad definition of rape, like regret afterwards or something like that, the feeling of being deceived or something along those lines.
brendon walsh
She changed her mind when he was finishing up or whatever.
joe rogan
Something along those lines, right?
And he was already inside of her and he didn't want to stop or something.
brendon walsh
But he was already on the run.
He was already wanted when all that happened, I thought.
joe rogan
Was he?
brendon walsh
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's just fascinating how...
You're not allowed to release information unless you're the New York Times or CNN or an established news organization slash corporation that we can trust.
You're not allowed to just release that.
What would the New York Times do if it was given that information?
If it was given all the WikiLeaks documents, if someone came along and said, listen, here's a gigantic file, you're going to fucking shit your pants, this is all a bunch of shit that I took from U.S. data banks, and it's going to blow the hole on this whole Iraq War thing, and there's a lot of things in it that's going to really disturb the shit out of people when they find out about real relationships between different foreign countries and different things that we're doing in all sorts of different parts of the world.
What do you think would happen?
brendon walsh
I don't think that would get released through a real mainstream news.
joe rogan
Do you think the New York Times would go, get the fuck out of here, we're not releasing this?
Or give it back to the government?
brian redban
I think so.
brendon walsh
I think, yeah, they would.
joe rogan
Because it wasn't their property?
unidentified
I don't know.
joe rogan
Is that a law?
brian redban
I think that they're dealing with a business, so that they don't want to fuck up and ruin the business.
joe rogan
Would it be stolen information, so there it would be illegal contraband or something along those lines, because it's top secret?
brendon walsh
I think the government would just come and confiscate it.
Somebody would call somebody and the government would be like, you have what?
We're sending someone right down.
unidentified
Is that ever going to change?
joe rogan
Is that ever going to get to the point where that doesn't happen anymore?
Is that like a remnant of the old days that's slowly starting to work its way out to the point where police aren't going to have that kind of absolute power anymore?
Is that possible?
brendon walsh
I don't think so.
joe rogan
Really?
brendon walsh
No.
joe rogan
It's going to get worse, right?
Does it get worse as the population increases?
brendon walsh
Well, it's like that Orwell quote of the future.
If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot standing on somebody's neck forever.
Something like that.
joe rogan
Whoa, Orwell was a drag.
unidentified
Imagine getting high with Orwell.
joe rogan
Dude, you are fucking killing me with this boot neck thing.
Why don't you just go to a massage par and get jerked off?
You know, just a wonderful feeling of warm oil on your balls.
Just sweet release.
unidentified
You don't have to think about boots and necks.
We're well needed.
joe rogan
It's not all boots and necks, you fucking dramatic cocksucker.
brendon walsh
Well, I mean, he wrote Animal Farm in 1984. Oh, he was brilliant.
In like the 40s.
joe rogan
When I say dramatic cocksucker, I mean it with all due respect.
He actually predicted a lot of shit that went down that, you know, was essentially science fiction at the time.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's amazing, you know.
unidentified
I mean, the internet, essentially, I mean, you could argue that, you know, that screen that everybody had in their apartments in 1984. Was 1984 supposed to be the year where this story took place?
joe rogan
Is that what the premise is?
brendon walsh
Yeah.
joe rogan
Isn't it amazing when you look back, like, on space 1999?
They thought that by 1999, we'd be, like, fucking living on other planets.
brendon walsh
Oh, in 2010!
unidentified
Da-da-da-da-da-da!
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know?
2010 was the year they made contact, right?
brendon walsh
And 2001 is space, obviously.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendon walsh
That's like...
joe rogan
2010, they thought, this is ridiculously far in the future.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
This is so far in the future that we're never going to have to worry about that.
We'll just make our money now, and we'll probably be right when 2001 rolls along.
Oh, nothing!
brendon walsh
Yeah.
joe rogan
No, no fucking space travel at all.
brendon walsh
I don't know, though, man.
Like, I was at...
joe rogan
That's the one area, though, where we grossly overestimated how far we would advance.
Space travel.
brendon walsh
Well, there's unmanned space shit out there.
And there's the space station with people on it right now.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But Space 1999?
They were living on fucking...
unidentified
They were shooting lasers at people.
brendon walsh
They were like Jetsons cars.
joe rogan
I mean, Space 1999, didn't they have battles?
With other fucking aliens and shit?
I'm pretty sure they did.
brendon walsh
Probably.
joe rogan
I'm pretty sure they did.
brendon walsh
Oh, yeah.
No, that was the future.
joe rogan
That's a Prince song, bitch.
unidentified
It's a ridiculous space in 1999. Those smart cars are pretty futuristic looking.
joe rogan
Well, you know, Obama just passed some new legislation saying that by, I think it's 2025...
of a car has to be some insane number.
It's like 50 plus miles per gallon.
And that's what's going to be the standard average per corporation.
You could have one stupid car.
You could have one Mustang GT with a fucking giant engine that eats gas.
brendon walsh
Yeah.
joe rogan
As long as you had a slew of electric cars that got like 90 miles to the gallon.
Sort of balance it out.
unidentified
That's a good idea.
joe rogan
For the Mustang.
Yeah, it's kind of interesting.
brendon walsh
Did you ever see that documentary, Who Killed the Electric Car?
unidentified
Yes, I did.
brendon walsh
Oh, that was pretty interesting.
joe rogan
Fascinating.
brendon walsh
Yeah.
I mean, they had a pretty decent electric car back in like 86. Yeah.
And then they just took them all and destroyed them.
That's fishy.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, I mean, conspiracies are real, man.
You know, Enron, the smartest man in the room.
Do you ever watch that documentary?
Conspiracies are fucking real.
Okay, yeah, they definitely went to war because I'm looking on Space 1999 in Wikipedia.
brendon walsh
Was that a show?
joe rogan
So I was shooting lasers at them.
brendon walsh
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, Space 1999. You didn't know that was a show?
brendon walsh
I thought maybe it was like...
joe rogan
Oh, when I was saying that, it was a show that I used to watch when I was a kid.
brendon walsh
Oh, no, I thought it was kind of a more...
brian redban
Yeah, I was lost on that.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
brendon walsh
Just like the idea of the future.
joe rogan
Really, they were so optimistic.
This is how crazy they were.
Because we had just gone to the moon, you know, supposedly.
And it's 1975, so did they just stop the Apollo program in 72?
So in 1999, they thought we would be fucking going to war.
But that was only 20 years!
Yeah.
They were only guessing 24 years in the future.
In 24 years, they thought, well, dude, we finally landed on the moon.
Remember when we invented cars?
Now look what we drive.
They finally landed on the moon?
Listen, dude, by the time 1999 rolls around, we're going to be going to battle in space.
So these fucking people were living in uniforms.
They had outfits and shit.
That was the other hallmark of the future.
Everybody wore the same clothes.
That's how you knew it was the future.
Future or aliens.
They're all wearing the same clothes.
brendon walsh
Yeah, well, I mean, Walmart, Target.
joe rogan
That is a fascinating thing.
brendon walsh
They're just not all matching silver jumpsuits.
Most people are getting their clothes from the same four places, probably.
Old Navy.
joe rogan
It's amazing that they missed so badly.
1999, they were so optimistic.
2001, so optimistic.
brian redban
A lot of things got it right though.
That old ride at Walt Disney World in the future where it was like this thing where you just sat there and watched what the future is supposed to be like.
If you look at it now, it's pretty crazy how similar it is.
joe rogan
Do you remember Alien?
You remember the Nostromo when they're in their ship and he's working on the computer?
It looks so fucking bad.
brendon walsh
Oh yeah, that's funny.
I love that.
joe rogan
The shit computer you have.
What is this piece of shit with its green fucking letters?
It's green lit up letters.
It looks so stupid.
brendon walsh
And the printer paper still has the holes on the side of it.
Yeah, shit.
This is the year 3000. Kirk out.
joe rogan
He didn't even have a cell phone, right?
He had walkie-talkies.
But the Nostromo, the fucking computer, man, they missed so badly.
But there's like, now we're at a point where we can imitate shit.
brendon walsh
They can predict things a little.
Like, I think, you know, it seems like a lot of the...
joe rogan
The Tom Cruise, what was that movie?
unidentified
Minority Report.
Minority Report.
joe rogan
Yeah, that shit is sort of coming to the line.
brendon walsh
I've seen that shit in other movies, too, so maybe that's the way things are headed.
joe rogan
When I swipe my iPhone, when I'm going through contacts or when I'm going through email, I think of it that way.
I'm like, this is amazing.
brendon walsh
These things are amazing.
joe rogan
I'm sliding this thing back and forth with my fingers.
And then iPads, the same thing.
I read books on the iPad, and when you turn the page, you slowly slide your finger.
It slowly curls the page over and then rolls to the next page.
Whoa!
This is some freaky fucking futuristic shit.
We're getting it right now.
brendon walsh
I went to a concert a couple weeks ago, and I went to smoke a cigarette and was looking at the whole crowd in the Hollywood Bowl, and you just see all these little light-up things.
Yeah, and it's like, that's kind of crazy, man.
And it happened so quickly.
joe rogan
It's amazing.
brendon walsh
Really, ten years ago, you didn't see...
joe rogan
I was typing an email today, and I was on the iPhone, and I was just thinking about how crazy it is that you could just touch these little spots.
brendon walsh
I think about that.
joe rogan
It knows pretty much what letter you're trying to say.
And then you can just swipe your finger and it spins through all your pictures and spins through all your music.
This is nuts, man.
This is so specific, too.
It's so accurate.
brian redban
Joe, you've got to try out this thing called Spotify.
It's kind of like Rhapsody.
It's all you can eat, any kind of music.
For $10, you get all the music you want, pretty much.
joe rogan
So for $10, one-time fee?
brian redban
No, every month.
$10 a month.
joe rogan
Ten dollars a month from music.
brian redban
Yeah, but you sit there and you just have access to pretty much any song ever.
joe rogan
Boy done lost his mind.
brendon walsh
I don't really understand the service, but yeah, for ten dollars a month you can put in like Rolling Stones and every Rolling Stones song will come up and you can download them.
brian redban
But what's cool is whoever has it connected to their Facebook, like a lot of your friends, like Duncan is a perfect example.
You can see His whole entire music, like, what he likes, what he listens to.
So you can just, like, if you're looking for new music, you can see what Joey Diaz is looking at.
You just, like, look at all his music.
It's pretty cool.
I would try it out.
brendon walsh
But you can download their music, too.
brian redban
And you can also download it on your phone.
brendon walsh
You'd be like, oh, Duncan has that album.
I want it.
joe rogan
And you can put it on an iPhone, you can put it on an iPod, and you keep it?
brendon walsh
Well, the thing is, the Spotify, it's like your iTunes, but it's held at some server somewhere.
brian redban
Yeah, but I think there's a way to also download the tracks.
So, like, if you have offline modes.
So, like, if you just pick what things you want, it will download the tracks onto your iPhone.
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
That's annoying.
unidentified
It's pretty cool.
joe rogan
I would want it on my iPod.
I might get into it.
I want it on my hard drive.
I want a physical...
brendon walsh
I think you can do that.
joe rogan
Really?
brendon walsh
Yeah, I think so.
joe rogan
As long as you can do that.
brian redban
Yeah, you can put it on your computer, your iPad, your phone.
joe rogan
It doesn't have to be connected to the internet to use it.
brian redban
No, you can download it.
You have to be connected to the internet at some point.
To get it.
Yeah, to get it.
joe rogan
To get the music.
brian redban
Right, right.
joe rogan
And do you just refresh and just...
brian redban
It just saves it onto your device.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
So it is just like downloading it.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
I'm confused.
unidentified
I don't know.
You can't burn it to a CD. Why not?
brian redban
I think it might have some kind of time trap.
joe rogan
It only lasts a certain amount of time.
brian redban
Oh, really?
unidentified
I don't know.
brendon walsh
I don't know what I'm talking about.
joe rogan
I'm not 100% sure.
brian redban
No, I think that's how it works, though.
I think it has to check for a subscription once in a while or something.
joe rogan
Oh, that's annoying.
So as long as your prescription's up, it's good?
brian redban
You know what's good?
joe rogan
In your car.
brian redban
You know what's good?
It's in your car.
You're driving around going...
joe rogan
That's all annoying, man.
When you got it, you got it, right?
I keep an iPhone or an iPod always charged up.
I always listen in my car.
I hardly ever listen to the radio anymore.
I just listen to my iPod.
It connects to my car.
It's amazing.
You can just choose whatever music.
But all I have to do is just sync it back and forth between my computers.
I don't want to go online and just...
Fucking register and pay $10 a month.
I buy the CD on iTunes.
I buy the MP3s.
That's good for me.
I don't want any of that craziness.
brendon walsh
I have Satellite in my car, and I like it because I've been turned on to a lot of new music that I wouldn't have heard.
There's one station in particular, like, I like that indie kind of rock shit.
I like rap too.
joe rogan
Like what kind of rock shit?
brendon walsh
Like indie, like, I like 90s indie rock a lot, and like, you know, like pavement, shit like that.
joe rogan
Like what do they sing?
Sing me a song.
brendon walsh
Well, I mean, I don't know.
Like, Dinosaur Jr.?
Are you familiar with any of that?
joe rogan
I was in a radio station once, WAAF in Boston, and one of the dudes from Dinosaur Jr., what is it, Mascus?
unidentified
What is his name?
brendon walsh
Jay Mascus, yeah.
joe rogan
Jay Mascus sang a song, like, right there, and it was a real creepy, like, acoustic song.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I'm like, wow, what a weird dude this guy is.
I bet this guy's some fucking crazy, creepy, weird genius dude.
brendon walsh
They are.
I mean, it's a certain genre, like...
Well, like, Nirvana came out of that, too.
joe rogan
Really?
brendon walsh
Yeah, it's like the Melvins and fucking...
joe rogan
But is Nirvana, like, if you talk about, like, that kind of music you want, that you like, if you say Nirvana, do they think, oh, you're all mainstream?
brendon walsh
No, no, because, I mean, Nirvana, like, naturally happened.
That came from, like, they wanted to be as big as Sonic Youth or Dinosaur Jr. and just...
They just wrote songs way too good and fucking just got huge.
joe rogan
They reinvented things.
brendon walsh
They changed the face of everything.
joe rogan
They fucked hair bands.
brendon walsh
And Vanilla Ice and MC Hammer.
Those guys were popular.
joe rogan
They got pounded on.
unidentified
Boom!
brendon walsh
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, where'd this come from?
There's all this truth and pain and reality.
unidentified
Dude screaming, rape me.
joe rogan
Rape Me Again.
And it's a great song.
brendon walsh
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, Rape Me is a great fucking song, and it played on the radio.
Just wrap your head around that.
Imagine trying to put that out today.
Rape Me, a song called Rape Me.
People would freak the fuck out.
They wouldn't want to play that on the radio.
Too many people would be complaining.
brendon walsh
Yeah.
joe rogan
This guy went on stage in the UFC this weekend.
There was controversy.
These two fighters went out to controversial songs.
And one of them was he went out to smack my bitch up.
brendon walsh
Okay.
joe rogan
And so this writer was complaining.
Are you serious?
Yes.
They wrote an article on Yahoo.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
About how it was insensitive to have that song, and that song promotes violence against women in LHS, that people might find it offensive.
And then the other song they complained about was the Scorpions, Rocky Like a Hurricane, because obviously we're in New Orleans, and New Orleans had been hit by a hurricane.
But meanwhile...
brendon walsh
But you're watching two guys beating the shit out of each other.
joe rogan
Yeah, and when that song came on, I don't think people thought that.
I didn't even associate it with that.
brendon walsh
You would never make that connection.
joe rogan
Until I read the article.
brendon walsh
Some cunty little writer fucking wanted to cause a stir.
joe rogan
Do you know how funny it is that you just said that?
Because I got in trouble for calling this very writer cunty.
brendon walsh
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
People are like, you shouldn't use that word.
brendon walsh
Sounds like cunty behavior.
joe rogan
I did not inform you of this beforehand.
We had no discussion.
There was no coercion on your part.
brendon walsh
Nope.
joe rogan
Ladies and gentlemen, nature finds its fucking course.
The other one was the Scorpions, Rocking Like a Hurricane.
When I heard that song, I didn't think, oh, no, he didn't.
A hurricane hit here and devastated the population.
brendon walsh
That's just looking for shit.
joe rogan
I thought, oh, it was a fucking jam.
brendon walsh
Here I am!
That's a good thing to listen to before you're going to go get in a fist fight.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a fucking good song, man.
You can't not have that good song anymore.
It's not responsible for the hurricane.
brendon walsh
Yeah.
joe rogan
Okay.
brendon walsh
Now, if he played like Walking on Sunshine by Katrina and the Waves, then that would be like, wait, why is he fucking playing this?
This doesn't go along with the sport.
joe rogan
I wonder if he'd be allowed to do that.
I wonder if Dana White would approve that.
Because he approves every song.
By the way, Smack My Bitch Up has won all these awards.
It's in Charlie's Angels.
Smack My Bitch Up is in Charlie's Angels.
brendon walsh
How does that go?
joe rogan
So it's like complaining, Smack My Bitch Up!
It's like this crazy techno.
It's a really famous song.
You never heard it before?
brendon walsh
I probably have.
The name's just not ringing a bell.
Is it like the Chemical Brothers?
It is the Chemical Brothers?
unidentified
Yes.
brendon walsh
Oh, then I am familiar with it.
I have all their stuff.
joe rogan
It's hilarious, though, that someone would complain about that.
That seems kind of silly.
Yeah, of course.
brendon walsh
Complaining about anything's silly.
joe rogan
Are we nerfing the fucking world?
What is going on, Brendan Walsh?
Now, I ask you this because you're a comic and you're also a fucking, you know, you go deep.
You push buttons.
You talk about crazy shit on stage.
It's fun.
It's my kind of comedy.
unidentified
Good.
joe rogan
When I saw you the other night at the Ice House, I was like, thank God, there's still guys doing that.
brendon walsh
Oh, well thanks, Joe.
That's flattering, man.
joe rogan
It's true.
brendon walsh
It's been really dirty.
The new stuff's kind of getting pretty dirty.
unidentified
I love it.
joe rogan
Keep going.
Go deeper.
I was there.
Look, I'm a huge fan of stand-up companies still, but not enough people are doing crazy shit.
Not enough people are going to the deep end of the pool.
Not enough people are just making fucked up things really funny.
There's a few, but you were nailing a bunch of...
I don't want to do any of your material, but you were nailing a bunch of different subjects.
Left and right.
I was like, this is really funny stuff, man.
I enjoyed it.
brendon walsh
That's awesome, dude.
joe rogan
Comedy is supposed to be kind of fucked up, man.
The best stuff when you've got a couple of drinks in you.
The best stuff is like, you know, like Nick DiPaolo is one of my all-time favorite guys to watch when I got a little buzz on.
brendon walsh
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Because he would have fake mean shit.
I mean, it was mean.
But he's not a mean guy.
He's a nice guy.
He's a great guy.
He's just fucking, that's the style of comedy.
And he's going after it.
Especially when you've got a buzz on, it's a fucking great art form.
By people complaining about a dude coming out to rock you like a hurricane, and by people trying to...
Take some of the flavor out of the world, tone things down.
They're ruining everything that's cool about life.
brendon walsh
Yeah.
joe rogan
The subtlety.
brendon walsh
They're just a bunch of fucking unhappy pricks.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Knowing what's right and what's wrong.
Knowing when to let things go.
It shows a big...
It's like prioritized shit.
brendon walsh
If you're going to sit down and fucking police Wikipedia on your fucking own time just because somebody adds Jerry Seinfeld started directing adult films after whatever.
If you're somebody who's policing Craigslist for people trying to be funny or gross on it...
What the fuck's wrong with you, man?
There's a million other things you could be doing right now.
joe rogan
Yeah, and that needs to be illuminated, right?
It needs to be pointed at.
Like, why are you doing this?
brendon walsh
Well, because, like, usually what they're doing, I mean, I'm just speaking from experience of, like, I had a fake Yelp account where I would just complain about businesses.
joe rogan
Oh, no.
brendon walsh
Like, I took businesses that had, like, there was a car wash called the Handy J. And I wrote the review, like, I was expecting a handjob at the end of the car wash, and it was blatant false advertising.
And there was a restaurant called The Happy Ending on Sunset.
So either way, it was just all written by this naive guy who was in a shitty marriage, and he was just looking for a handjob.
And none of these places gave him handjobs.
And this pink taco place in Arizona, like, some guy beats the shit out of him because he tries to get his daughter to fuck.
I mean, it was just a silly thing I was doing.
But he got taken down because I guess somebody, you know, complained or was monitoring Yelp.
And I lost all of my fucking handjobs.
joe rogan
You didn't write him down anywhere?
brendon walsh
Again?
No.
I was like, that's before I even knew that you could do a screen grab.
Like, I just, I think I'd...
joe rogan
Well, wasn't there a thing that you could do on the internet, Brian, where you could go back and time?
Time machine.
Yeah, not just that.
brendon walsh
Oh, you could go and...
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian redban
Yeah, but that probably is not on there.
I don't know.
brendon walsh
This was a couple years ago.
joe rogan
How does that work?
brian redban
What it does is it's just a program, like a spider or a bot, that takes screenshots and kind of saves websites, kind of archives websites.
It's called the Internet Archive.
joe rogan
Where is this all stored at?
brian redban
I don't know.
I think it's connected with some museum or something like that or some kind of weird thing, database.
But it works like 70% of the time.
You can go to your old website from like 91...
unidentified
Well, I didn't have a website in 91. Or 92 or whatever it was.
joe rogan
I think it was 98, actually.
brian redban
Or 98. And you can see it.
And some things will work.
Some photos will work.
Some things will work.
Wow.
joe rogan
That's wild.
That's wild.
unidentified
That is weird.
brian redban
I have Pepsi Spice projects on there somewhere.
joe rogan
Is it really?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
Brian did a thing where he pretended that he was going to eat nothing but Pepsi Spice for like months and he got pepsispice.com.
It was a new type of Pepsi that they had.
And he got pepsispice.com.
He registered it because they were fucking slow on the take and they didn't realize the power of the internet.
So then he writes this blog detailing these horrific fucking physical ailments that are occurring to him from just eating nothing but Pepsi Spice from us.
unidentified
What was it?
brendon walsh
Spicy Pepsi?
unidentified
Yeah.
brian redban
It was like ginger mixed with Pepsi.
brendon walsh
I don't remember that shit at all.
brian redban
It was gross.
joe rogan
It was horrible.
unidentified
It was so awful.
brian redban
It was like Thanksgiving.
joe rogan
Do you remember New Coke?
unidentified
They tried to fuck with Coke.
I remember New Coke.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian redban
Coke Classic.
joe rogan
It was like, what are you doing?
And then they don't do that anymore, right?
Now it's just Coke Classic.
brian redban
No, it's just Coke.
They got rid of New Coke.
joe rogan
Yeah, New Coke.
It was a slow introduction.
You know what it was like?
It was like the metric system.
They tried to shove it out.
brendon walsh
It tastes like Pepsi.
joe rogan
And then they pulled it back.
They're, all right, we give up.
We give up.
We give up.
brian redban
New Coke just tasted like Pepsi.
joe rogan
Do you think there's a different type of person who drinks Coke rather than Pepsi?
brian redban
Fuck yeah, man.
I hate Pepsi.
Like, drinking Pepsi is...
brendon walsh
It's all kind of the same, isn't it?
brian redban
I like Diet Pepsi better than Diet Coke.
joe rogan
Do you think, like, do dumber people like Pepsi or smarter?
brian redban
Dumber.
brendon walsh
Smart people are drinking soda on a regular basis.
joe rogan
Really?
I bet they are.
Smart people that smoke cigarettes.
We had this guy, Daniel Pinchback, this brilliant author, who told me he just quit smoking cigarettes.
I was like, what the fuck?
You what?
What?
You just quit too, right?
brendon walsh
It's tough, man.
joe rogan
When did you quit?
brendon walsh
I'm like on my third day, so...
joe rogan
That's it?
brendon walsh
Not even...
I quit for a year a couple years ago, and I smoked a joint with...
My friend rolled a joint with tobacco in it.
brian redban
Oh, no.
brendon walsh
And it fucking...
It's crazy.
Once you have that little taste, I was like, hey, roll me a cigarette, like a couple days later.
I was staying with him in upstate New York after Montreal, and so I was kind of on vacation, that vacation mode, and was like...
I'll have a couple smokes until when I get back to LA I'll stop and went down to the city for a week and bombed a couple cigarettes but cigarettes are like 15 bucks a pack there so I was like I'm just gonna buy a pack and you know give them the people and I'll smoke and either way just snowballed into is that the only physical addiction you've ever had um cock Brian.
Yeah, man, that's rude.
That's rude behavior that your fucking little co-host is exhibiting.
joe rogan
You know, this is going out on the internet.
Other people are going to hear this, dude.
brendon walsh
That's slander or libel, whatever it is.
brian redban
Why don't you put a cock in your mouth and cry?
joe rogan
Okay, listen, you took it too far.
brendon walsh
Back on.
No, I've never had any real, like, you know, I like to drink and stuff.
joe rogan
But you've never had, like, a physical craving like that before where you got attached to it.
brendon walsh
Cigarettes or alcohol?
joe rogan
Yeah, cigarettes.
I mean, cigarettes is the only one like that?
I mean, how bad is alcohol?
Have you ever gotten to a, like a, I need a drink every day stage?
No.
So it's, cigarettes, what I was trying to get at was like, cigarettes are...
They're tough, man.
Inordinately tough.
And much stronger.
They have a much stronger pull than a lot of the other things that get people addicted.
brendon walsh
Well, because you don't get anything out of cigarettes, too.
Like, cigarettes, if they got you high or drunk, like...
brian redban
They relax, though.
joe rogan
Dude, you get pissed off.
brendon walsh
But it's all just because you're poisoned, like...
joe rogan
Do you get pissed off at those people that fucking tell you they can smoke and they don't ever get hooked?
Because there's a lot of people that do that.
They're called liars.
brendon walsh
No, they're not.
I think there are different kinds of...
I do lean more towards an addictive type.
If there's something that's kind of fun, my impulse is to overdo it.
I have self-control in other things.
joe rogan
That's why you're funny.
Almost all comics have that.
Every comic that I know that's really funny is impulsive.
Like, look at Kreischer.
He's really impulsive.
Brian Callen, really impulsive.
Joey's impulsive as fuck, you know?
brian redban
I'm glad that they're still improving the technology of a cigarette, though.
They have Camel Crushes now.
brendon walsh
It's so bad.
brian redban
Which are so awesome.
Like, you're smoking a cigarette, and you're like, you know what?
I'm bored with this cigarette.
Then you just crush the filter, and it releases more chemicals into the filter.
Then it tastes like mint.
brendon walsh
Yeah, then it's a menthol cigarette.
joe rogan
What?
brendon walsh
But it's a little chemical ball.
brian redban
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
joe rogan
Wait a minute, wait a minute.
So you can change your experience?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
You go from a regular cigarette or at any time back and forth?
unidentified
Yeah.
brendon walsh
No, no.
Just once you go menthol, you can't go back.
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
But the whole pack has this available to it.
The whole pack.
brendon walsh
The whole pack, yeah.
They have little spearmint balls.
joe rogan
Your cancer is going to get cancer.
It's going to find out that that gives cancer cancer.
brian redban
Yeah, double cancer.
joe rogan
Those mint balls give your cancer a new cancer.
unidentified
So bad, man.
brendon walsh
But once you get out of the woods, when I quit a couple years ago, I mean, I went like a year, and it's been a year now that I've been smoking again.
Right.
Once you get out, or at least once I got out of the woods, like after a couple weeks, I was like, okay, I'm fine.
I don't need this.
joe rogan
Really?
brendon walsh
Yeah, I really didn't.
I was pretty cocky about it.
I was like, I'm never going to stick another one of those things in my mouth.
joe rogan
Wow.
brendon walsh
And I would hang out at bars.
I'd go out with my friends when they went to smoke.
I was like, I'm done.
I don't smoke.
I read this book that helped a lot.
I mean, granted, I'm smoking again, but because...
Well, but I mean...
Under my circumstances, though, I kind of didn't really do it by choice.
I smoked this joint that had tobacco in it.
I knew I tasted it right away, but I was like, fuck it.
It's been 11 months since I had a cigarette.
I can have a pop.
joe rogan
Tobacco demon talking to you, right?
unidentified
It's fucked up, dude.
joe rogan
Is that what it is?
The nicotine demon?
brendon walsh
Well, that's the way he describes it in the book.
You're just feeding this little monster that needs to be fed over...
It's a very short...
brian redban
I even heard that after six months, it starts burning fat that has nicotine still in it, and so you start getting cravings again after a certain period.
I don't know if this is bullshit.
joe rogan
Someone said that, too, and I thought that sounded silly.
brian redban
Seems kind of silly.
joe rogan
It might be, though.
I mean, I know marijuana stays in your system.
I think if you're really fat and you get super high, weed can stay in your system for weeks.
brendon walsh
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
brendon walsh
It stays in your fat cells, right?
joe rogan
Yeah.
So if that, I mean, if it's there, maybe, I mean, it's obviously the grip of that stuff is way stronger than the grip.
I mean, there's people that say they get addicted to marijuana, but there's nothing like the feeling that I don't think that they would get with cigarettes.
They don't need to smoke it all day like that.
brendon walsh
No, it's more of a habitual.
I think marijuana, you get hooked on the ritual of it.
I also huff this shit, too.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I'm willing to believe that everybody has a different biochemistry and some people can get physically addicted to almost anything.
I think people get physically addicted to sugar.
Some people that have crazy sugar fixations where it's an addiction.
So they could get addicted to marijuana, but nothing like the addiction to cigarettes.
That is one of the weirdest ones, man.
unidentified
It's a bitch.
joe rogan
When you see people, like when Brian started smoking cigarettes again, it's almost like I have to accept that he got bit by a vampire.
unidentified
All this talk of cigarettes makes me want to have a cigarette.
joe rogan
Are you ever going to quit?
brendon walsh
I might bum one off you.
joe rogan
Oh, really?
You ready to give in?
brendon walsh
Today's been rough.
Why has it been rough?
I've just been, you know, I keep fucking wanting one, but it's like, yeah, it's that.
joe rogan
What is it?
Explain it to me.
What's the pull?
It's a person who's never.
I've had a cigarette or two in the day, but I've never got it.
brendon walsh
Yeah, it's just, it seems, it sounds like a really good idea.
Like, I just want to kind of fucking smoke a cigarette.
And there is a little bit of a, yeah, a little like...
brian redban
You know what it's like?
You know what it's like?
It's when you go and you're hungry as fuck, and you go to the movie theater, and you smell that popcorn, and you're like, fuck, I need that popcorn.
joe rogan
No, it can't be.
It's got to be way crazier than that because I could pass on the popcorn.
brian redban
No, because you can sit there and not get popcorn, but if you sit there and keep on smelling it over and over again, it'll drive you crazy.
brendon walsh
Don't think of popcorn specifically.
Think of like you're really hungry and you smell like cookies.
joe rogan
How about this?
We're at Fogo to Chow and the guy keeps coming back with the meat and I have my thing flipped over to red.
Is it that good?
brian redban
Yeah, it's more than that.
It's like when you smell somebody cooking cookies or brownies in your house, and you're like, oh, I need that fucking cookie now.
It's like that.
brendon walsh
That's what the yearning's kind of like.
It's something where it's like, oh.
joe rogan
And when you get it, when you finally give in to the beast, and you light that bitch up, and you suck it in, what is that like?
brian redban
That completely goes away, that stress.
brendon walsh
Yeah, it goes away, but then I guess, you know, mine's immediately going to be followed by guilt.
joe rogan
Yeah, but you don't think, okay, here I am, I'm poisoning my body.
brendon walsh
Dude, oh God, the thoughts, they fucking go through my head.
Yeah, it's so dumb.
brian redban
I think about it, like, I don't think about it when I'm doing it.
Like, I think about it the next morning when I'm just like...
joe rogan
You know what you should do, dude?
You should start smoking a pipe.
Smells better, you get your tobacco.
Maybe you could smoke a pipe and be okay.
brendon walsh
You just gotta stop doing it.
joe rogan
You guys are both junkies.
You guys can't help it.
brendon walsh
It's an addiction, man.
But, you know, this is like, you know, yeah, it's my third day, so it's pretty...
brian redban
It's also good for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.
brendon walsh
No, you see, I'm not a big daytime smoker.
brian redban
Oh, really?
brendon walsh
I'm at night, like, I don't...
brian redban
I use it for lunch.
brendon walsh
I don't smoke during the day.
joe rogan
You use it for lunch so you don't eat?
brian redban
Yeah.
Like, if I'm really hungry and I'm just too busy, I'll smoke a cigarette and it kills it for another 30 minutes.
joe rogan
Oh my god, that's so gross.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's gotta be terrible for you.
brendon walsh
But I do, if I'm around people, like, I was staying with a buddy of mine in Austin, and he wakes up in the morning and has a cup of coffee and a cigarette, and I would do that.
joe rogan
Oh god, that's the best combo ever.
brendon walsh
Well, it's just, it's more like, oh, again, like, when in Rome, like, okay, but I wouldn't do that on my own.
joe rogan
Does that give you a crazy head rush?
What does that do for you?
brendon walsh
You know, I'm not crazy about that, uh...
That combo first thing in the morning.
No, it makes my stomach feel shitty.
A lot of people swear by it.
joe rogan
Even before they have food.
brendon walsh
I think a lot of people are...
joe rogan
Really?
What's the big deal?
brian redban
I don't know.
It just goes together perfect.
It's the taste of the coffee and the taste of the syrup.
joe rogan
Do you ever figure shit out from that combination?
Is that a combination where you start your day out with a new perspective?
unidentified
Kind of.
brian redban
You get a little boost from the cigarette, a little boost from the coffee at the same time.
It's kind of like a kickstart.
joe rogan
It's amazing.
Makes you have to shit.
Nobody ever talks about getting rid of cigarettes.
They're like little evil demons that have collected themselves.
brendon walsh
They should be fucking illegal.
joe rogan
It's amazing.
It's totally amazing.
It's amazing when you think about all the shit that is illegal.
You think of the actual numbers that they're doing.
brendon walsh
I was talking to Henry Phillips about...
I don't know if you guys know Henry, but...
joe rogan
The guy who played guitar on Stan Hopes?
brendon walsh
Yeah, yeah.
And we were just like, you know, kind of drunk talking on the phone one night.
And we were both talking about how like, God, what are we still smoking?
You know, because he smokes cigarettes too.
And he's saying, yeah, if an alien life form was looking down on us, they'd be like, wait, so this fucking thing kills a million people a year and it's not illegal?
Why don't they just make it illegal?
And it's like, well, because these five guys are getting really rich off of it.
And the aliens would be like, well, why not just kill those five guys?
And save the millions and just make it a no-brainer.
But it's like, yeah, that's just the way everything's fucked up.
It's like, yeah, why not just kill the five guys who are fucking everything up for everyone?
joe rogan
Well, there's two arguments.
There's one, the freedom argument where you're free to do whatever you want to do, even if it's ridiculous to say.
brendon walsh
Well, you can't do heroin if you want to.
joe rogan
But why can't you?
brendon walsh
Because it's illegal.
joe rogan
Right, but...
But should we allow more things to be legal?
That's the other question.
It's like, we have enough problems of our own.
It would be hard because a lot of people say they want to be able to have a fucking cigarette.
brendon walsh
A lot of people want to fuck 10-year-olds, too.
joe rogan
Yeah, but that's different.
brendon walsh
If they legalize fucking 10-year-olds, that might be way more addictive than cigarettes.
I've never done it.
joe rogan
The cigarette is connecting to you.
You fucking 10-year-olds is you interfering with other people's lives.
You're making your own personal choice.
You have your own personal freedom to go and dick to this.
brendon walsh
Well, I'm obviously being...
joe rogan
I know, of course.
But, I mean, it's a weird thing that you want to say that it is illegal.
Because I think you should be able to do whatever the fuck you want.
I think if you want to smoke...
If you smoke cigarettes and you know they're addicted, I think we should look down horribly on the people who sell them.
Just like any person selling any fucking deadly drug.
Especially things that just...
What are those 599 fucking ingredients that they've added to cigarettes to make them more addictive?
What a crazy combo they've put together.
brendon walsh
Well, I've smoked those American Spirits almost my whole career.
joe rogan
And do they have the same...
brendon walsh
Their whole thing is it's 100% additive...
brian redban
Free tobacco, like Whole Foods cigarettes.
joe rogan
Is it less addictive?
brendon walsh
Nicotine's pretty addictive.
joe rogan
So nicotine on itself is addictive enough, and all the 599 other things just enhance.
brendon walsh
The other shit is like what they do to food at McDonald's.
It's designed to burn a certain way, for the ash to be shaped a certain way.
joe rogan
Do you notice the difference between the cigarette experience from the natural ones and the ones like the cool lights or something like that?
brian redban
I do.
Yeah.
joe rogan
What do you know?
brendon walsh
What's the difference?
You smoke like camels, right?
brian redban
I smoke camel lights.
joe rogan
That's like a really strong one, isn't it?
Camels are really strong.
brian redban
American Spirits, actually, to me, feel like they do more damage just because it's a thicker smoke.
brendon walsh
They last longer.
brian redban
Yeah, and they last longer.
Like, I'll smoke, like, you know, American Spirits.
The next day, I'm coughing up black shit.
Like, I feel like...
brendon walsh
Well, you just don't smoke as many of them.
I mean, that's...
You can't smoke as many of them.
Like, I always find...
joe rogan
It's so crazy.
It's so ridiculous.
Like, how do you take your poison?
You know, you got to be careful with the natural poison.
Natural poison is hard to swallow.
brendon walsh
Well, I think it's just...
No, you see, I don't think it's hard to swallow.
I just don't think you want it as frequently.
Like, the other ones burn faster.
brian redban
They're like diet pop.
brendon walsh
You can...
joe rogan
You can just keep them coming.
brendon walsh
You can suck down two camels for like one.
joe rogan
Camels used to have no filter.
brian redban
They still have those.
All cigarettes have like no filter and filter like Lucky Strikes.
brendon walsh
Marlboro doesn't.
Well, they have some.
brian redban
Marlboro.
brendon walsh
They have non-filter Marlboros?
brian redban
They used to.
I don't know if they still do.
brendon walsh
Oh, they might.
I don't know.
brian redban
They have the Camel non-filters also.
brendon walsh
No, I know that, yeah.
And Lucky Strikes.
joe rogan
What is that all about?
What's the non-filter about?
brendon walsh
That's like some dude who's a fucking rockabilly shithead who's just going to the nth degree to fucking maintain his style.
joe rogan
Rockabilly shithead, I love it.
brendon walsh
Why else are you smoking Lucky Strikes except for the package looks cool and goes good with your fucking bowling shirt with flames on it?
brian redban
How many times have you accidentally boxed?
brendon walsh
Your fucking greased back hair.
joe rogan
Your fucking tattoo of a howling cartoon dog.
brendon walsh
Yeah.
I don't want to give any more descriptions because I don't want to get punched in the face by one of those guys when I'm in Austin.
joe rogan
And there's those girls that have that very specific look, too.
brendon walsh
Those rockabilly girls.
But burlesque, like you were talking about that.
That's crazy in Austin.
joe rogan
Yeah, they all dress like they're from the 40s or some shit.
brendon walsh
The same as roller derby girls.
They're all cut from the same cloth.
joe rogan
What the fuck is this longing for the nostalgic past that everybody has?
brendon walsh
I don't know.
I have a joke about it.
unidentified
What is it?
brendon walsh
Where I say I love roller derby.
I've never seen it, but I like that it exists because it cuts down on all the crappy girl bands that would be around otherwise.
unidentified
Because it's just like a bunch of people who need some attention.
brendon walsh
It's like, yeah, don't start a band, dude.
Yeah, do that.
Fucking do burlesque or roller derby.
joe rogan
I have a friend from the message board that's in a roller derby thing.
Vicky from the message board.
brendon walsh
Well, it's just a joke, Vicky.
joe rogan
She's in Vancouver.
She's a nice girl.
But she gave me a roller derby girl t-shirt.
I wear it.
brendon walsh
Oh, yeah.
No, it's a cool thing.
It's kind of a cool thing to have.
joe rogan
A roller derby girl t-shirt?
unidentified
Yeah.
brendon walsh
Yeah.
joe rogan
This fucking podcast is over.
This thing's gone forever.
brendon walsh
Man, almost three hours.
joe rogan
We rambled through a good part of it where I didn't know what the fuck we were talking about.
brian redban
That beginning part, I was not awake.
joe rogan
We're too tired.
That's the problem with doing a late night one.
I work all day doing Fear Factor.
I'm out in the fucking hot sun all day.
That shit cooks your brain.
You can drink a lot of water and rehydrating helps, but it makes you really stupid at the end of the day.
unidentified
You just get really tired.
brendon walsh
Can you see how many people started listening and stopped?
joe rogan
It was 1,276.
Not bad.
For the end.
It's been on forever.
brendon walsh
Two and a half hours, right?
joe rogan
It's 11pm on the East Coast, man.
brendon walsh
Oh, fuck.
joe rogan
I have late it to do.
Or on the West Coast, rather.
unidentified
It's 11pm.
joe rogan
Alright.
Thank you, Brendan, for coming by.
unidentified
Thanks for asking me.
joe rogan
And please follow him on Twitter.
It's B-R-E-N-D-O-N Walsh.
Hell yeah, son.
brendon walsh
B-R-E-N-D-O-N Walsh, yeah, on Twitter.
And I'll be in Bloomington, Indiana at the Comedy Attic September 29th through October 1st.
joe rogan
Tweet that, and I'll retweet it.
And if you've never seen him, go fucking see him.
unidentified
Yeah, come.
brendon walsh
It'll be fun.
That's a great place.
joe rogan
You're one of those guys that, right now, in my book of funny guys to watch, you're one of those that hasn't been nationally recognized yet, but it's going to happen quick.
brendon walsh
Cool, man.
joe rogan
I really believe that.
You're fucking hilarious, dude.
The other night at the...
At the Ice House.
brendon walsh
Those shows were fun.
unidentified
Well, you have a good crowd, man.
joe rogan
It was really fun.
Yeah, they're great.
brendon walsh
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, we're really lucky, and most of it is these fucking freaks that are listening right now.
brendon walsh
And we'll be in Houston.
joe rogan
You dirty freaks.
Yeah, we're going to be in Houston together.
We're going to be there with the great Joey Coco Diaz.
It's a bona fide experience, ladies and gentlemen.
What is that, like October 7th?
October 7th.
And that's at the Verizon Wireless Theater.
And this weekend.
September 23rd.
Yeah.
Yeah.
September 23rd.
With Joey and Ari.
And we're going to be in Denver, Colorado.
And we're at the Paramount Theater.
And it's almost sold out.
So it's going to be a lot of fucking fun.
I haven't been back to Denver in a long time.
So I'm looking forward to that.
So that should be the shoot.
And then the weekend after that.
October...
The first week of October?
Oh, no.
The 30th.
The 30th of September.
I'm in Washington, D.C. And that's at the Warner Theater.
And that's with Ari Shaffir.
unidentified
Alright, you dirty bitches.
joe rogan
You guys are awesome.
Thanks for tuning in.
Thanks for lasting all you Ustream freaks.
You hung in there.
And all you people that are listening to this at the gym and go, this is a very disjointed fucking weirdo podcast.
Yes and no.
Surely we could edit this and get the good parts and it would be...
An hour and 45 minutes of absolute deliciousness.
brendon walsh
This would be really good at 1.45.
joe rogan
At 1.45 this podcast would be the shit.
But I'm sorry we don't have that for you today.
We have two hours and 20 minutes of disjointed conversation.
Some of it's entertaining.
brian redban
Cut into thousands of pieces on Easter.
joe rogan
And some of it is just plain cunty.
So thanks for tuning in to the podcast, and thanks for everything, and thanks to The Fleshlight for sponsoring the podcast.
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Oh, shit.
Brendan Walsh is going to take my home with him and shoot mad loads in that shit, son.
brendon walsh
I don't know if I can trust myself.
Well, yeah.
Maybe I will.
joe rogan
You're going to do it.
I'm going to be back on Sunday, this Sunday evening with Graham Hancock.
And that is going to be fucking awesome.
One of my favorite authors of all time.
If you've never heard of him, go look him up online.
Watch some of his videos on YouTube.
Google him.
Buy his books.
Fingerprints of the Gods changed the way I looked at the world.
And he's going to be here this Sunday.
So, that's it.
I'll see you guys soon.
Thanks for everything.
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