Feb. 28, 2011 - The Joe Rogan Experience
02:29:25
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There's a lot of shit on this table. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| This table's ridiculous. | ||
| I'm a mess. | ||
| This table's reflecting of the busyness of my life right now. | ||
| I need to take some time and clean this fucking table. | ||
| But the thing is, man, people keep bringing me shit. | ||
| But it's all cool shit. | ||
| Paul, I love you, buddy, but you gave me a mushroom hat. | ||
| Please put that on. | ||
| Yes, I'll put this on. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Is this the way to wear it? | ||
| Like this way? | ||
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I think so. | |
| That's fucking good. | ||
| So people keep giving me cool shit. | ||
| He also gave me this mushroom. | ||
| It's a dried mushroom. | ||
| People give me all this cool shit. | ||
| And so I go, oh, thank you. | ||
| And then I don't know where to put it. | ||
| He set it down. | ||
| I got Dan Aykroyd's vodka in the corner there. | ||
| A cool skull vodka thing. | ||
| God, I've never seen someone push vodka so hard on a podcast. | ||
| He goes hard in the paint with his vodka sales. | ||
| Great promotion. | ||
| It's very smooth. | ||
| And it's Dan Aykroyd. | ||
| So you're like, I'll buy it just to let... | ||
| I want to hear you talk. | ||
| The Blues Brother? | ||
| I'm in, dude. | ||
| Dude, come on, man. | ||
| I bought it. | ||
| He was a conehead. | ||
| He's one of the original Saturday Night Live Slayers. | ||
| Like the real OG. One of the Blues Brothers! | ||
| Blues Brother. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Hey man, we started this podcast off talking off the record. | ||
| And I thought it was probably good for everybody to hear. | ||
| I'm so happy you're not fighting. | ||
| And what we were saying was, I know that I was a dick to you to get you to stop doing it. | ||
| But I felt... | ||
| I felt like there was almost no other way that you were gonna live. | ||
| I felt like I felt scared. | ||
| I've seen too many people that are just... | ||
| There's a moment where it changes. | ||
| Where they stop being that person. | ||
| And they keep fighting. | ||
| And you see it. | ||
| You see the deterioration. | ||
| And no one steps in. | ||
| And no one stops them. | ||
| And then you'll talk to them alone, man. | ||
| Maybe you run into them in Vegas. | ||
| Maybe you both have a couple of drinks. | ||
| And you see each other at the bar. | ||
| And you're like, hey, how's things? | ||
| And you have these conversations. | ||
| And then the reality sets in. | ||
| Things are not good for a lot of these guys. | ||
| A lot of these guys that have taken punishment for too long, there's no bringing them back, man. | ||
| They get to this spot where you know, everyone knows there's something wrong and no one says anything to them. | ||
| And I was real scared that that was going to happen to you. | ||
| I was real scared, you know? | ||
| Like I didn't anticipate, when we did that crazy podcast that wound up being, you know, this like intervention, I didn't even know I was going to do it. | ||
| But while it was happening, I was like, you gotta stop! | ||
| That's all I was thinking is, you gotta get out! | ||
| We were a little high. | ||
| I don't even remember if we were drinking, but we probably were. | ||
| But I remember that being so sensitive to it like there's something has to be done Like now you gotta you you had so many other possibilities that there's if like most guys that are all in on fighting They don't have anything on the side like there's almost nothing else there. | ||
| There's almost just fighting and maybe a family, right? | ||
| But you were you were starting to flourish. | ||
| You're hilarious on podcasts what you know that can go away and Yeah, and guys become shells. | ||
| We see it, right? | ||
| Now that you're out, you see it, right? | ||
| Yeah, thank God or whoever's up there, man, for you and Brian Kellen. | ||
| Thank fucking God. | ||
| I know it came out Dickie. | ||
| I know it did. | ||
| And I know I apologized then and I apologize now. | ||
| But I think that's the only way you could do it. | ||
| I knew you weren't going to listen. | ||
| I knew you had this pride. | ||
| Like we were talking about before the show, you were a top 10 professional heavyweight in the biggest organization in the world. | ||
| That's an identity thing, too, man. | ||
| People get strapped into that identity. | ||
| It's one of the harder things about fighters, is when you quit, you have to find meaning in your life. | ||
| Like, what are you good at now? | ||
| Dude, for me... | ||
| I know I never did anything professionally, but it was the formative stages of my life where the only thing that gave me any feelings of good was martial arts. | ||
| You didn't feel like a loser. | ||
| The only thing. | ||
| The only thing. | ||
| Everything else I felt, even though I was kind of good at drawing, but even then I was like, my drawing teacher didn't like me. | ||
| I had friends that I was close with in the class. | ||
| We all drew and we liked our stuff, but man, I felt like a fucking loser except for martial arts. | ||
| So when I quit, Then I'm just doing comedy and I suck at comedy. | ||
| I was eating shit and I was like, what am I quitting for? | ||
| Like I'm quitting something that I was good at to be something that I suck at that I maybe think I have this pipe dream that I could eventually make a living out of. | ||
| I remember that feeling of not having an identity and obviously when you're 21, no one has an identity anyway. | ||
| You're always so fucking confused. | ||
| You're in your head. | ||
| You're trying to figure it out. | ||
| I was super fortunate where I was surrounded by guys like you, Callan, Bert, Tom. | ||
| I wanted to be in that party. | ||
| I was so fortunate. | ||
| The stars aligned for me where I was at this party over here and guys were getting CT and you're fighting and it's a fucking grind. | ||
| And then you guys were over here. | ||
| I'm like, well, I want to be one of them. | ||
| I'm good, man. | ||
| I'm good. | ||
| I want to do that. | ||
| And I think it took that bridge and that gap. | ||
| To be honest, I think that's the only way that you could have done it because the ego that I had at the time, especially fighting, man, getting to that level, it was like that ego's insane. | ||
| The narcissist and the dream of, oh, I can beat Kane or Stipe, these guys. | ||
| And I think the only way that I could have bridged that gap is by you going so hard in the paint. | ||
| Dude, I was so scared about Ngannou. | ||
| I was so scared they were going to fight you with Ngannou or someone like that. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| I was so scared you were going to get murked by some... | ||
| When you weren't all in anymore. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Those big fucking... | ||
| When you watch, like, when... | ||
| Francis murked Overeem with that left hook. | ||
| That uppercut? | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| Like, if that was you. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| And I was calling that fight, man. | ||
| Oh, dude. | ||
| And I love Alistair. | ||
| He's a great guy. | ||
| I have a deep appreciation for him as a fighter. | ||
| Yeah, and my feeling was when he came over as K-1 Grand Prix champion, I'm like, this is the most celebrated striker we've ever had in MMA. And you saw it in his fight with Brock Lesnar. | ||
| Phenomenal. | ||
| Dude! | ||
| People... | ||
| That's one of the things that makes that Francis K.O. so fucking crazy. | ||
| Insane. | ||
| He did the same thing to Junior Dos Santos, remember? | ||
| Overeem did it. | ||
| He hit him with a beautiful left hook. | ||
| Very similar punch. | ||
| Super worried about that with you, man. | ||
| But I also think, too, for me, it was like this... | ||
| Quick ascension into this UFC and I'm fighting these top 10, top 15 guys. | ||
| I'm in this world, but it's like I was almost like a cheat code because I was really athletic. | ||
| I was really, really athletic with my background, so I got... | ||
| I pass a lot of guys fast, my athleticism. | ||
| But then you get to a certain point where you're fighting these vets, where they've fought big, powerful, athletic guys before. | ||
| But then it comes down to experience and technique, and that's always, always going to win. | ||
| Nine times out of ten, that's always going to win. | ||
| The thing is about striking, too, is striking when you mix in with wrestling, you can kind of get away with a lot more. | ||
| A lot more crazy shit happens. | ||
| People knock people out that maybe wouldn't knock people out normally. | ||
| Kevin Randleman was an amazing example of that. | ||
| He knocked out Mirko Krokop with the left hook. | ||
| Remember that? | ||
| If they were in a straight kickboxing match, it's definitely possible that Kevin could do that. | ||
| Kevin was an incredible athlete. | ||
| But you would favor heavily that Mirko would be able to stuff that. | ||
| All day. | ||
| All day, most likely, because he was so elite in that realm, but you add striking to MMA, and there's so much craziness going on that sometimes it's hard for people to clearly establish who's actually better on their feet until someone can stop the craziness. | ||
| Yeah, there's blurred lines. | ||
| Yeah, and then you get to this level. | ||
| There's this level... | ||
| We get like a Masvidal. | ||
| He's a perfect example because he's so goddamn good. | ||
| He's so smart. | ||
| He's so technical and he finds these openings that maybe other people don't see or maybe they can't get to where those openings are and he finds those. | ||
| So you think you're doing good. | ||
| You think you're doing good, but he's waiting. | ||
| He's waiting for the moment where he sees this spot that he's been looking at and BOOM! He cracks Darren Till with that step in left hook and puts him out. | ||
| You put a fucking animal like Darren Till out cold. | ||
| Come on, man. | ||
| I think John's one of those guys, too. | ||
| Because of his last few opponents, everyone's like, God, maybe he's older. | ||
| He's lost a step. | ||
| I watch and I go, oh, he's playing with his food. | ||
| He's playing with his food. | ||
| I'm not disrespecting those guys who he's fought or Dominic Reyes, who he's going to fight. | ||
| But for John, you look at his legacy and the legends that he's fought, it's tough for him to get up for the challenge. | ||
| So he's playing with his food right now. | ||
| Wait till he fights. | ||
| I'm telling you, wait till he goes to heavyweight. | ||
| You're going to see the old John. | ||
| When there's actual, where he thinks it's a challenge, wait till you see him fight a Stipe or Francis. | ||
| You're going to see the monster come out. | ||
| And I just pick him with his food. | ||
| Yeah, I'll do that. | ||
| All right, yeah, let's do it. | ||
| I think he's in cruise control. | ||
| I think you're entirely correct. | ||
| And I think when you are at that elite level, when you've never been defeated, you have one loss. | ||
| It's a bullshit loss. | ||
| Everybody knows it's a bullshit loss. | ||
| He really should get his record cleaned. | ||
| They cleared him with this whole picogram shit. | ||
| They found out that we just have... | ||
| This new ability to measure substances in the most minuscule amounts that it's so ridiculous that just some random sort of vitamin that has some contaminant, one millionth of a fucking gram or whatever the hell. | ||
| Water or dick pill or protein, whatever the fuck you're eating. | ||
| All kinds of shit test positive that's not a drug. | ||
| It's not like someone's cheating. | ||
| So they cleared them on that, right? | ||
| USADA makes this whole statement about the new way they're viewing this stuff because the fact their equipment's just amazing. | ||
| You can't hide from them anymore, man. | ||
| Shout out to USADA, though. | ||
| I like that USADA went, yeah, it's so good. | ||
| You guys are flagging. | ||
| We're going to back off. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| I like that they learned from it. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| I love that they did the same with marijuana. | ||
| They realized, we're not dealing with a performance enhancer. | ||
| As long as these guys aren't fighting high, it's just helping them sleep and relax. | ||
| It's not helping anybody in terms of not making them stronger or faster. | ||
| And it might help them with anxiety and a lot of other things. | ||
| So they released that, right? | ||
| They're doing good things. | ||
| But with John, it's cleared that he wasn't taking anything. | ||
| This is just some... | ||
| Some shit that's a residual, like a residue that's on something else, some contaminated supplement. | ||
| Same thing would happen with Tim Means. | ||
| Tim Means got busted the same way. | ||
| I mean, they dragged it out with him for months. | ||
| There's a lot of guys. | ||
| When he was at his peak, really. | ||
| I know, man. | ||
| When he was peaking in the UFC. He's fucked up. | ||
| And he's one of the most interesting welterweights. | ||
| All of a sudden, boom, he gets a suspension from tainted supplements. | ||
| You look at the guy. | ||
| He's not a fucking steroid user. | ||
| Dude, how about Tom Waller? | ||
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Yes, yes. | |
| Kind of lost his career. | ||
| Josh Barnett. | ||
| I know. | ||
| Same thing. | ||
| And people are upset, but a few of you saw it, you're like, We don't know what to tell you, dude. | ||
| We're trying to move forward and get better. | ||
| It sucks for those guys, and I feel so terrible for those guys. | ||
| But for USADA, our bat, we learn though, man. | ||
| There's nothing to do. | ||
| The thing is, USADA has a long career. | ||
| When you've got a guy like Tim Means or a guy like Josh Burnett, there's a window. | ||
| Josh has had an extremely long window, obviously. | ||
| Youngest ever UFC heavyweight champion. | ||
| The longest, yeah. | ||
| But that extremely long window, I mean, it's going to come to a close, and they took away a large chunk of it for something that turned out to not be accurate. | ||
| But they're going to last a long time. | ||
| These guys, they say that at their peak, the best fighters have nine years at their peak. | ||
| God, that's a long time. | ||
| It's a long time. | ||
| The only guys who really hit that nine-year stride at peak form, I think, is Anderson, Fedor. | ||
| There's a few real legends. | ||
| GSP, obviously. | ||
| GSP. John. | ||
| John, obviously. | ||
| John is undefeated right now. | ||
| They took his title away, wins it back. | ||
| He's never lost a title fight. | ||
| And you're dealing with... | ||
| The guy wins the title, youngest ever in the sport. | ||
| Flying knee opener on Shogun. | ||
| Had just nothing but success since then. | ||
| People are like inspecting him with a microscope, expecting him to fall off. | ||
| Like, you're dealing with the goat, man. | ||
| It's hilarious. | ||
| He's the goat. | ||
| And even after the Santos fight, I'm like, oh, Santos had one leg? | ||
| So I went back and watched Jon Jones fight, and you watch, you're like, oh, he couldn't give two fucks about being in there right now. | ||
| Well, he was smart, too, because that guy was dangerous. | ||
| He's smart and he's calculated. | ||
| It's dangerous, but at the same time, he could have took him down. | ||
| His coaches were like, dude, I was talking to his manager, we were like, dude, take him down. | ||
| He's like, no, I'm just going to entertain this. | ||
| And he won. | ||
| It's hard for him to, because you look at the resume of guys he's beat, and then they're like, again, it's not a knock on Dominic Gray, it's not a knock on Corey Anderson or Anthony Smith, but you're like, here's Anthony Smith, and John's like... | ||
| Alright, yeah, let's do it, man. | ||
| So, you know, he's fucking with his food right now. | ||
| Well, he's so good, but he's still able to fight out. | ||
| Like, the Gustafson fight, the early one, the first one, was a perfect example of him falling into a trap, right? | ||
| Partying too hard, didn't train. | ||
| Trained for two weeks, sir. | ||
| Barely, right? | ||
| Everyone at camp was, like, they were, like, saying, what do we do here? | ||
| He goes out and guts it out. | ||
| Wins in the stretch! | ||
| Wins down the stretch! | ||
| Like, he had to be pushed to win down the stretch. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And I trained with Gustafin for that fight, and I'm talking the best I've ever seen in the training room. | ||
| I was like, oh, this guy's never gonna lose. | ||
| Oh, he's the best I've ever seen. | ||
| He would spar five rounds with me, then jump in with a heavyweight professional boxer and fuck him up. | ||
| 5-5, 5-5, beat the fuck out of me. | ||
| And I'm like, he's never gonna lose. | ||
| John didn't, you gotta understand, didn't train. | ||
| Went the distance and beat that man. | ||
| And won down the stretch. | ||
| One down the stretch, gutted it out. | ||
| And Gusvin's the best light heavyweight of all time if he was in a different era and there's no DC or Jon Jones. | ||
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He's the GOAT. I'm just saying, that's how good he is. | |
| He's the GOAT if those two fucking guys aren't there. | ||
| Yeah, you might be right. | ||
| He was this close to being both of them. | ||
| This fucking close, dude. | ||
| He could. | ||
| The first fight. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| But then the second fight, Jon just runs him over. | ||
| Because Jon took it serious. | ||
| Took it very seriously and wanted to prove a point. | ||
| Oh, he's good. | ||
| Check this out. | ||
| How about the DC fight? | ||
| Alright, beat you in decision. | ||
| That's cool. | ||
| Run it back. | ||
| Boom. | ||
| Head kick. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And not just a head kick, but a head kick on the side where DC said, you're not going to trick me into leaning towards my right where you could hit me with that left kick. | ||
| Like, they actually had a conversation about it. | ||
| The goat. | ||
| Here's what's interesting about this. | ||
| His light heavyweight is so... | ||
| I just wish John would dip out and be like, you guys do your thing. | ||
| Build the division. | ||
| No, no, no, no, no. | ||
| I like what he's doing. | ||
| Well, no, he's defending it, sure. | ||
| But here's the thing. | ||
| He's not stimulated by that. | ||
| He's talking shit to the middleweight champion in the world. | ||
| He's busy talking shit to Izzy. | ||
| Israel's talking shit to him, too. | ||
| They're having a lot of fun. | ||
| It's entertaining, though. | ||
| Yeah, they're having a lot of fun. | ||
| Listen, ultimately, I think it's good for everybody. | ||
| I think that little feud between Izzy and Jon Jones, first of all, it elevates Izzy. | ||
| Because all these people that didn't know who he was, like, why is Jon Jones talking shit to him? | ||
| Oh, look at this motherfucker. | ||
| Holy shit, he's good. | ||
| And then they watch his fights and go, this is why Jon Jones is talking shit to him, because he starched Robert Whittaker. | ||
| Basically, at the end of the first round, the fight was over. | ||
| I mean, Robert Whittaker was fucksville. | ||
| And he stops him in the second. | ||
| And his social media, he's lighting him out there. | ||
| He's good everywhere. | ||
| And he's a great guy. | ||
| The best. | ||
| He's a really great guy. | ||
| Love him. | ||
| Love him. | ||
| And honest as fuck. | ||
| You know he bought a McLaren 720S? Yes, he did. | ||
| When he told me that, I went, dude, I gave him a hug. | ||
| I was so excited for him. | ||
| I thought he was a car guy. | ||
| He goes, I gotta be honest, man. | ||
| I just bought it because it looked like this anime character. | ||
| I went, ah! | ||
| All right, well, you got the right car. | ||
| Is it on the right side? | ||
| When I know a car is awesome, but it's got a steering wheel on the wrong side, I'm like, ugh. | ||
| I know. | ||
| Get that thing away from me. | ||
| Goddamn, what are you doing, dude? | ||
| I saw this incredible Porsche. | ||
| They had this 1972 RS, but it had the steering wheel on the right-hand side. | ||
| I'm like, get out of here with that garbage. | ||
| Get this fake shit out of here. | ||
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What is this? | |
| I know, dude. | ||
| Your steering wheel's on the wrong side. | ||
| What's crazy is Izzy told me they actually offered the fight to him already. | ||
| Do you know that? | ||
| He's smart. | ||
| He's smart because he went, oh no, you're not going to Canelo me. | ||
| Floyd Mayweather canelo me. | ||
| You're trying to get me while I'm really young in the game? | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| We're doing two years. | ||
| We're doing two years in Vegas. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Look at Izzy. | ||
| Look at that car. | ||
| 720S. That's a beautiful car, man. | ||
| I saw one the other day. | ||
| They sound good, too. | ||
| It's a spaceship inside. | ||
| Mmm, they're beautiful, man. | ||
| That's a beautiful car. | ||
| It's a great fucking car. | ||
| He's special, man. | ||
| I think he's gonna be the next big superstar. | ||
| I really do. | ||
| He's got everything going for him. | ||
| Spectacular talent, great personality. | ||
| He's fun. | ||
| I mean, he fights with as much skill as we've ever seen a striker. | ||
| I mean, he's Anderson Silva 2.0. | ||
| He really is, man. | ||
| His striking's out of this fucking world, man. | ||
| But he has all the skills Anderson had, but he's amazing on the mic. | ||
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Yes! | |
| Anderson was terrible on the mic. | ||
| Well, you know, he spoke Portuguese. | ||
| It was kind of the fun of it, though. | ||
| No, it was almost like, well, don't talk. | ||
| But he was so good, it didn't matter. | ||
| Agree. | ||
| Like, Anderson was so good, it didn't matter if we didn't understand what he said. | ||
| Everybody loved him, man. | ||
| Because he was the GOAT at the time. | ||
| But also, the game's different. | ||
| Now it's so much of a specter, like entertainment, where Anderson would still be Anderson, but it was different back then. | ||
| We were more appreciative of those guys. | ||
| I feel like, I don't know, maybe the fanbase understood the sport more? | ||
| Because GSP was huge, not a great shit talker. | ||
| Anderson Silva, not a great shit talker. | ||
| We loved those guys. | ||
| Cain Velasquez, terrible talker. | ||
| Never talked shit, ever. | ||
| Those were the big boys. | ||
| Yep, yep. | ||
| GSP is a perfect example. | ||
| Nothing but nice, always. | ||
| Never talk shit. | ||
| Never. | ||
| Never. | ||
| Max Holloway. | ||
| Max would talk a little shit, but it's more playful. | ||
| It's more like, we'll see. | ||
| We'll see. | ||
| But Staubender really doesn't talk shit unless you initiate it. | ||
| If you initiate it, game, match. | ||
| It's a devastator. | ||
| And he's good at it, man. | ||
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He's good at it! | |
| He lights people the fuck up. | ||
| Him and Jon Jones going back and forth is kind of fucking hilarious. | ||
| It's good for both of them. | ||
| It's great for Izzy. | ||
| Because if Jon is that concerned about him, everybody's got to realize, oh, this guy's for real. | ||
| And I always say, I wouldn't entertain it when people would bring it up. | ||
| I go, Izzy's too small. | ||
| It's just a fucking, it's nothing. | ||
| It's like Bigfoot. | ||
| Whenever you're going to see it, get out of here. | ||
| It's a big difference. | ||
| There's a big difference, but Izzy's fucking big, man. | ||
| When he walked up, I've never met him before. | ||
| When he walked up, I went, damn, dude, you are not small. | ||
| No, but he's only about 200 or so pounds, like 205, somewhere around that range. | ||
| He said he was 203, I think. | ||
| Yeah, he's in that range. | ||
| John's probably 235 right now, right? | ||
| And John has two brothers that are elite NFL athletes. | ||
| I mean, bro, he comes from fantastic genetics. | ||
| I mean, he's just got super athlete family. | ||
| And he's huge. | ||
| That size difference is so big. | ||
| Like, could you see Izzy as a heavyweight? | ||
| I don't know if I could. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| He would be overblown. | ||
| It would be too hard for him to deal with the really big guys. | ||
| They swear it's going to happen though. | ||
| Izzy loves it. | ||
| He's going to go up to heavyweight? | ||
| Or Jon Jones? | ||
| Izzy's going to go up. | ||
| He's going to go up to heavyweight? | ||
| He's down for weight. | ||
| He's like, I don't care, man. | ||
| He doesn't care. | ||
| Well, he's so good technically. | ||
| I mean, who knows, man. | ||
| Maybe he's doing specific kinds of training that keeps his body light. | ||
| And maybe if he lifted weights, he would actually get better. | ||
| The only thing that would worry me about that fight, and I'd be rooting hard for Izzy in that fight, but the only thing that worries me is Jon's wrestling. | ||
| Oh, yeah, man. | ||
| Remember he took down DC and Olympia. | ||
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Yes! | |
| He wanted to make a point. | ||
| First round. | ||
| So if he wants to play that game, he can play it. | ||
| But John can do everything. | ||
| And one thing he does better than anybody that's ever fought, utilize distance. | ||
| He utilizes distance better than anybody. | ||
| He's the very best at keeping you here. | ||
| And a lot of people accuse him of poking people in the eyes. | ||
| There have been some incidents. | ||
| I don't think he's doing it on purpose. | ||
| I think, and I agree with you, he shouldn't do it, he should close his fist. | ||
| But what I'm saying is, the way his style is, he keeps you out here, and then bang! | ||
| Keeps you out here, bang! | ||
| Side kick to the leg, oblique kick, leg kick, pops you with a jab, hits you with a knee, keeps you here, keeps you here. | ||
| These are his antennas, really. | ||
| He's just feeling out like a snake's tongue. | ||
| Yeah, he's got space, like this much space, where he could fuck you up, but you can't hit him. | ||
| He's got this, because he's also, he's so comfortable in world championship fights. | ||
| He's had nothing but world championship fights. | ||
| That's all he knows? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| So when you're at the top of the food chain with the bright lights, main event, and you're like, holy shit, this is the big one. | ||
| John's like, this is a fight. | ||
| All his fights are like this. | ||
| Another day in the office. | ||
| That's how Tyson was when Tyson was crushing people. | ||
| That's how Anderson was when Anderson was crushing people. | ||
| They thrive in the light. | ||
| And they get to this point where you have to be so much better to beat them because you're shitting your pants going in, you're compromised, and you're fighting a guy who's at the peak. | ||
| He's in the zone. | ||
| I mean, Anderson, like when he fought Stefan Bonner in Brazil, Remember that shit, dude? | ||
| He was in the zone, man, when he fucked up Forrest Griffin. | ||
| He was in the zone. | ||
| There was this zone where Anderson was when he front kicked Vitor in the face. | ||
| There was Anderson for a few years that was like, holy shit! | ||
| People forget. | ||
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| It's hard when you look at it retroactively. | ||
| You got to go back and understand the times we were living in. | ||
| We're talking about 2005, 2006. Do you remember when he first came on? | ||
| We knew of him in Pride. | ||
| If you were hardcore, you knew of him in Pride. | ||
| But you didn't know how good he is. | ||
| And then they go, hey, Chris Lieben, we got someone for you. | ||
| And Chris Lieben goes, I'll fight him. | ||
| And Chris Lieben had that noggin, that head, so he could take punches. | ||
| And Fucking Anderson Silva lit that dude up. | ||
| You were like, what the fuck is happening right now? | ||
| I have friends that bet on fights, and that was one of them that said, listen to me. | ||
| Bet the house on the Brazilian. | ||
| I mean, bet the house. | ||
| How about he was going to retire? | ||
| Big Nog was like, nah, you got to keep going, dude. | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| He was fighting over in Cage Warriors. | ||
| I remember when he fought Jorge Rivera in Cage Warriors and let Jorge punch him in the face. | ||
| Oh, that's right. | ||
| Let him. | ||
| Stood right in front of him. | ||
| Let him punch him in the face. | ||
| Let him punch him in the face. | ||
| Then he smiles at him and kicks his ass and stops him. | ||
| Dude! | ||
| He fucked everybody up over there. | ||
| Remember when he fucked up Lee Murray? | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| Back when Lee Murray was merking people with one punch? | ||
| People forget, too. | ||
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Woo! | |
| Lee Murray can crack! | ||
| Lee Murray can crack! | ||
| That guy could crack! | ||
| Rob a bank for you too. | ||
| Horrible! | ||
| Yeah, rob a lot of banks. | ||
| Hell yeah. | ||
| Shout out to Lee Murray. | ||
| Is he out yet? | ||
| No! | ||
| Jail for life, son! | ||
| Oh, they gave him life? | ||
| Oh, he's going to be in there forever. | ||
| They don't even know where the money is. | ||
| They're missing like $50 million. | ||
| It's a goddamn Guy Ritchie movie. | ||
| I know. | ||
| Isn't Guy Ritchie making a movie about that? | ||
| On Lee Murray? | ||
| Here's a little thought. | ||
| People don't know, Lee Murray came into prominence because he got in a street fight with Tito Ortiz. | ||
| And Chuck Liddell was there. | ||
| But Chuck didn't fight him though, right? | ||
| Chuck was fighting his other friends. | ||
| But the rumor is, is Lee Murray starched Tito. | ||
| Well, the rumor was that he hit him. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I knew that he hit him, but I think Tito had, I'm not making excuses for anybody, but I think what I heard is Tito had like dress shoes on, like slippery ass dress shoes. | ||
| I talked to Chuck about it and he goes, no one got knocked out. | ||
| It was a scuffle and then we separated. | ||
| Chuck hates Tito, he goes, but I'm not gonna spread the rumor. | ||
| He didn't get knocked out. | ||
| No, I heard he got punched. | ||
| Tito's fighting this weekend, by the way. | ||
| Yeah, who's he fighting? | ||
| Some guy who wore a mask and got destroyed by Krokop. | ||
| Oh, that guy? | ||
| That guy. | ||
| Remember that guy in Pride? | ||
| He was like, I'll try it out, but I'm going to wear a mask. | ||
| Dude, it's like a movie. | ||
| It's a horror movie. | ||
| It was a horror movie. | ||
| Get that Dos Karos. | ||
| Get the KO from Mirko Krokop versus Dos Karos. | ||
| Mirko hits him with left kick cemetery right to the fucking dome. | ||
| And when the dude goes out, as he slumps, blood is dripping out of the inside of the mask across his eyes. | ||
| It's a horror movie. | ||
| But it's like if Tarantino was gonna film this. | ||
| You'd be like, come on, bro. | ||
| You'd be like, come on, the blood's dripping down. | ||
| Get out of here. | ||
| Watch this. | ||
| First of all, the Japanese people are so mean. | ||
| Here it is. | ||
| When he gets him up against the corner is when he lands this. | ||
| Let it roll here a little bit. | ||
| He cracks him a few times just to let him know, bro. | ||
| This guy's a wrestler, by the way. | ||
| You're making a huge mistake. | ||
| You fucked up so bad. | ||
| Because this guy has no business being in there. | ||
| And Mirko at the time is the peak. | ||
| He's the best kickboxer we had ever seen in the sport at that time in the heavyweight division. | ||
| This was like Alistair was still not Alistair back then. | ||
| You know, he had made it. | ||
| Mirko was the first. | ||
| He was the first real K-1 superstar because he was explosive. | ||
| Like a lot of the guys like Ernesto Hust or maybe Peter Ertz, they maybe wouldn't have made the transition to what Mirko did. | ||
| Mirko was like, boom! | ||
| Look at that, son. | ||
| One shot. | ||
| Boom! | ||
| Now watch when they close up on him. | ||
| Watch when they close it on and you see the blood. | ||
| Come on, bitch. | ||
| Where's the blood? | ||
| You're trying to take the mask off? | ||
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| It's edited out, these fucks. | ||
| Yeah, they try to rip the mask off in time, but they don't get it. | ||
| Boy, I hope I didn't make up the blood part. | ||
| I don't think I did. | ||
| No, blood comes out. | ||
| I think it definitely happened. | ||
| It's when they're trying to get it off. | ||
| Yeah, okay. | ||
| So when they go back to the dude... | ||
| Okay, there's blood. | ||
| But let me see where the blood comes out of. | ||
| Don't they show it dripping? | ||
| Maybe I saw it on a photo. | ||
| No, I remember seeing it too. | ||
| But it might be one of those things, like the Berenstain Bears, where everybody remembers it wrong. | ||
| Oh, you're right. | ||
| No, they got blood. | ||
| There's obviously some bleeding on his head because they're cleaning it up. | ||
| But I remember seeing him slumped and then the blood trickles down. | ||
| Hey, what the fuck was that guy thinking fighting? | ||
| I had that shirt on. | ||
| The Japanese don't care. | ||
| What the fuck were they... | ||
| They'll pay you. | ||
| What was he thinking? | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| Dudes are... | ||
| This idea. | ||
| Like, they can just do it. | ||
| Oh, it'll be fine. | ||
| Oh, what's the big deal? | ||
| It's Mirko Krokok. | ||
| I've been in a fight before. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| Dude, you knocked that guy out. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| How about that, haters? | ||
| That guy who just kissed his ass. | ||
| Brendan knocked him out. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| He was still doing the damn thing, too. | ||
| Bro, his KO of Vanderlei Silva is one of the most horrific in the sport. | ||
| The best. | ||
| Because that was two fights. | ||
| One, his first fight with mixed martial arts rules, like modified rules. | ||
| Remember, you could only go to the ground for like X amount of seconds. | ||
| There's some weird rule. | ||
| And if it went to the distance, it would be a draw. | ||
| So the fight went to the distance. | ||
| So then after that, Mirko has a series of fights with high-level competition. | ||
| It gets way better at sprawling. | ||
| Also brings Dean Lister into his camp. | ||
| Verdum as well. | ||
| Verdum. | ||
| So he gets real comfortable with jiu-jitsu, real comfortable with grappling. | ||
| He's working with these elite guys, powerful wrestlers, the whole deal. | ||
| Then they have the second fight. | ||
| The second fight's in the heavyweight tournament, and Vanderlei's on all the Mexican supplements. | ||
| I love that Vanderlei. | ||
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Woo! | |
| That's the best Vanderlei. | ||
| The Berserker. | ||
| Find that. | ||
| Mirko, Krokop vs. | ||
| Vanderlei Silva, too. | ||
| It's a great fight. | ||
| And Vanderlei got bigger than Krokop. | ||
| Vanderlei, if I remember correctly, I may be wrong, but I think I'm right. | ||
| Vanderlei weighed 218, and Krokop weighed 214. I think Vanderlei was actually heavier. | ||
| Vanderlei of pure Brazilian steel. | ||
| Imagine if I was right about that, if I really remember those numbers. | ||
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That'd be great. | |
| Great line. | ||
| Vandele Silva, I know we had an issue. | ||
| Sorry, while we were talking, was that the whole thing go down or just the TVs? | ||
| Vandele Silva versus Mirko Krokop 2. Because in that one, that one, Mirko was fully comfortable with MMA. He wasn't getting taken down. | ||
| He knew Vander Lee wasn't a wrestler. | ||
| His takedown offense was insane. | ||
| And he wasn't worried about being submitted either, because he'd been training with Dean Lister and Fabricio Verdum. | ||
| So he's just sending missiles! | ||
| You know, he's the one who got Verdum into Pride and into MMA. Really? | ||
| He brought Verdum in for jiu-jitsu, and Verdum's like, oh, that's kind of cool. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| That's right before Verdun fought Junior Dos Santos. | ||
| Remember when no one knew who Dos Santos was? | ||
| And I think it was like a late minute substitute. | ||
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| Late minute. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And Junior hit him with the uppercut. | ||
| See, this is the second fight. | ||
| In the second fight, Vanderlei is facing a completely different animal. | ||
| Because look at that. | ||
| Shakes him off. | ||
| Crow Cop was physically strong as fuck. | ||
| He was moving like a real MMA fighter who's also an elite kickboxer. | ||
| It was a different animal. | ||
| Dude, you weren't submitting him. | ||
| He's been rolling with Fabricio Verdum. | ||
| So he lets him up and he's just battering Van Der Leen. | ||
| Look at this straight left hand. | ||
| Boom! | ||
| Boom! | ||
| I mean, before the KO, it's horrific, right? | ||
| He's beating the shit out of Van Der Leen. | ||
| Vandele is supposed to be fighting 185. That's his real weight class. | ||
| He's just bulked up, and you just can't hang with a guy that's this fucking good as a heavyweight. | ||
| And so then, Vandele gets up, they give him a yellow card, kick to the body, and then sets up the big high kick to the head. | ||
| I mean, Vandele's trying, man. | ||
| He's swinging. | ||
| He's swinging. | ||
| He's swinging for the fences. | ||
| He is, but dude, that fucking left kick to the forearms right there just numbed his arms. | ||
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Boom! | |
| And there's the head kick. | ||
| Back up to the kick to the body. | ||
| Back up before that. | ||
| Watch this kick to the body, dude, because you see Vandelay's arms. | ||
| You know how when a dude gets shins slammed into the arms, they have this, like, oh, look at that one, right to the gut. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, my God, dude. | ||
| I mean, he's slamming. | ||
| It's hitting forearm and gut. | ||
| And here's the high kick. | ||
| Boom! | ||
| So you eat a couple of those to your body or to your arms. | ||
| Everything just goes off. | ||
| Everything is fucked up now. | ||
| And then he hits him with that high kick. | ||
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| Shout out to Crow Cop. | ||
| Shout out to Crow Cop. | ||
| Right leg hospital, left leg cemetery. | ||
| Yeah, dude. | ||
| But that was a perfect example of pride at its peak. | ||
| You wanna know how cocky I was when I was a fighter? | ||
| When we came out, you know the first thing I did? | ||
| I threw a high kick at Crow Cop. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| I threw a head kick and he blocked it and smiled. | ||
| I was like, you fucking idiot. | ||
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| Hilarious. | ||
| Dude, how about fucking Cowboy Conner? | ||
| That's a very good fight. | ||
| It's a long time overdue, right? | ||
| Perfect time for it, too. | ||
| Me too. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| I like how Cowboy's fighting now. | ||
| He's so calm and relaxed in there. | ||
| He's lost his last two, but they were to the top of the heap. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, he fought Gaethje, who I think is the scariest fucking guy in the division right now. | ||
| He scares me because Gaethje's like, it's like he's on a suicide mission. | ||
| It's like either he's gonna go or you're gonna go. | ||
| And a lot of people say that, but they don't really mean it. | ||
| Agree. | ||
| He fucking means it. | ||
| And he's backed off of that a hair. | ||
| So he's still controlled wildness. | ||
| If you say he's a brother, he does not like it. | ||
| I don't think he necessarily is. | ||
| I think what he is, he's wild, but it's intelligent pressure. | ||
| It's controlled chaos. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| It's better than ever. | ||
| And he has a great chin, phenomenal wrestling. | ||
| Having those fights where it didn't go his way because of the chaos, I think is just making him be just a little bit more calculated. | ||
| Just a little bit. | ||
| That's all he needs. | ||
| A little more cerebral. | ||
| Dude, when he fucked up Barboza, I was like, Jesus Christ. | ||
| Who does that to Barboza? | ||
| Here's the thing, though, because I thought Gaethje's kind of left out in the cold with all these matchups being announced with Khabib, Tony, Conor, Cowboy. | ||
| Khabib's kind of left out. | ||
| He's just like, all right, the fuck we do now, man. | ||
| Yeah, Gagey is a little bit left out in the cold, but not really. | ||
| Did I say Khabib or Gagey? | ||
| You said Gagey and then you said Khabib later. | ||
| But I know what you meant. | ||
| Gagey is a little bit left out, but if anybody gets injured, he's right in there. | ||
| See, we're in this weird place where we're pretending these fights are all going to happen. | ||
| We hope and pray that Khabib and Tony, we hope and pray that Cowboy and Conor actually make it to the dance, but they might not make it to the dance. | ||
| So if somebody doesn't make it to the dance, guess who gets a phone call? | ||
| Justin Gagey. | ||
| Or Masvidal. | ||
| Or Masvidal, but Masvidal's 170. Yeah, I'm saying for Conor. | ||
| Oh, for Conor, yeah. | ||
| Because that fight, you know Conor vs Cowboys at welterweight? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Which, when it was first announced, I was like, oh, at 55, man, that's a tough fight for Cowboys, slow starter, Conor's a finisher, comes out the gates like a fucking banshee. | ||
| And then my brother texted me, he goes, man, you know it's at welterweight? | ||
| I'm like, why the fuck would they do that? | ||
| Because Conor doesn't want to lose any weight. | ||
| Listen, dude, I think that guy tortured himself to get down to 45 so hard. | ||
| And when you looked at what he looked like when he was on the scale, when he was flexing, he looked like a goddamn zombie. | ||
| A skeleton. | ||
| It was horrible. | ||
| So I think, you don't, nobody, whether he complains or not about that, nobody rides for free. | ||
| You do that to your body for a couple of years, you're doing some fucking damage. | ||
| And it makes it harder to lose the weight afterwards, right? | ||
| So then he's going up to 55. He's obviously elite at 55, wins the title at 55, has the great rematch with Diaz at 70, and then comes back and fights Khabib at 55 again and gets mauled. | ||
| He has a fight with Cowboy. | ||
| He's really a 55er that can fight welterweight. | ||
| That's the right size for him. | ||
| I don't think Nate is fighting 55 at any time in the future anymore. | ||
| He's too big now. | ||
| He's too big, but my only issue at 70, and I would assume his team decided to do it at 70, is when I look at Conor McGregor as a welterweight, is his power the same as it was at 45 and 55? | ||
| Is his timing the same as speed? | ||
| No, but he's fighting a guy who I think in his eyes is not really a welterweight. | ||
| You think, oh, 55er, because most of his work at 55? | ||
| I think he thinks of Cowboy as a guy who'll fight at 170, but he's really a 55er. | ||
| That's fair. | ||
| My only issue with that is, and I'm a huge Conor McGregor fan, obviously Cerrone's a friend of mine, so I just want him to have a great fight, but... | ||
| When people were complaining about this fight, when the internet's like, ah, it's whatever to me, I think it's a phenomenal fight because I think if you're a Cowboy fan, you know, I always said Cowboy is too much of a company, man. | ||
| The UFC and Dan would go, cut weight, dude, fight this fight, do this, quick turnaround, right? | ||
| Cowboy, the legend of Cowboy was born. | ||
| He's jumping out fucking ships and whatever the hell he's riding fucking bulls and whatever the fuck he was doing the week of the fight Yeah, and he was kind of kill himself to make weight And I just went does it ever work out for anybody who says who's a yes man to the UFC not really? | ||
| But now we've seen it's worked out for cowboy because this is his you know I I don't put too much into titles anymore like this is Cowboys title shot you got the biggest fight in the game and You're fighting Conor McGregor. | ||
| You're going to make millions of dollars. | ||
| This is the golden goose. | ||
| If you talk to Kamaru Usman, Kobe Covington, Masvidal, Khabib, Tony, maybe not those two, but if you talk to anyone, who do you want to fight? | ||
| Everyone says Conor. | ||
| Because you know it's the biggest fight you can get in the game. | ||
| Cowboy got it. | ||
| He's paid his dues. | ||
| He's earned it. | ||
| He's getting millions and millions of dollars. | ||
| Win, lose, or draw. | ||
| It's a good fight for Cowboy. | ||
| I think they should make a red panties night belt. | ||
| That'd be cool. | ||
| Whoever gets to fight Conor, you get a red panties and a belt. | ||
| Because the belts are whatever now. | ||
| Hire some super hot actress to wear them for a day. | ||
| Oh, dude. | ||
| I would love that. | ||
| And they win those. | ||
| That'd be so sick. | ||
| But a belt with framed red panties in it. | ||
| It'd be so dope. | ||
| I think he's, you know, Conor's calculated in his comeback. | ||
| And I think this is a smart fight for him because he's not fighting someone who's too big, right? | ||
| Where I feel like, you know, that was the argument about Nate. | ||
| Even though Nate did, of course, fight at 55 for a long time. | ||
| He's a big dude, man. | ||
| He's a big dude. | ||
| You know, and then there's some other guys that want to fight him at 170 that are real 170s. | ||
| Like, Masvidal is a perfect example of that. | ||
| Masvidal was a 155 for a long time, but he's not anymore. | ||
| If you look at his frame, like, you go look back when he fought, like, Michael Chiesa, which was, like, 2000... | ||
| 13, 14? | ||
| 14. Somewhere around then, right? | ||
| So Masvidal back then was like a skinny guy, man. | ||
| Yeah, real skinny. | ||
| He wasn't defined, you know? | ||
| Wasn't a man yet almost. | ||
| Like he grew into his body. | ||
| He was also killing himself to make 55, right? | ||
| And you can't pack on any weight, you can't put in any muscle. | ||
| When he went up to 170, we got to see who he really is. | ||
| We knew who he really was before. | ||
| I mean, he knocked out Eve Edwards in Bodog Fox. | ||
| Old school. | ||
| Remember that? | ||
| Yeah, and that was when Eve was a monster. | ||
| Eve was probably the best 55-pounder in the world. | ||
| People forget about that, too. | ||
| They do forget. | ||
| But one of the reasons why I was trying to think why they would do it at 70, I think you're right where Cowboy is a natural 155. He's not a huge welterweight. | ||
| But the other thing is, now that Conor fights at 70, now he has options. | ||
| He can play in 70, he can play at 55. In 70, I know his team wants to do it, and his manager told me this, Masvidal told me this, they want to be the co-main event against Nick Diaz, and they want the Conor fight. | ||
| Is Nick taking fights? | ||
| He announced on his Instagram that he has big news about a fight. | ||
| On his Instagram story. | ||
| Did you see his interview with Ariel? | ||
| Yep. | ||
| What'd you think? | ||
| What'd you think? | ||
| I didn't think he looked happy. | ||
| No. | ||
| I thought he was real troubled. | ||
| And a lot of rambling. | ||
| I mean, a lot of thoughts. | ||
| Trying to get out of his head. | ||
| A lot of rants. | ||
| You know, I mean, I think... | ||
| I don't... | ||
| It's like... | ||
| But have you ever watched an interview and been like, oh, damn, that was... | ||
| With him? | ||
| Yeah, that was super clear. | ||
| I mean, I don't think that's his jam. | ||
| His jam is fucking people up. | ||
| They talk about that. | ||
| Him and Nate, they're just like, ah, it's a little... | ||
| I know. | ||
| It's tough because, again, we kicked this podcast off with CT and stuff like that. | ||
| So it's like, is that a combination of him fighting? | ||
| Is that what's going on there? | ||
| Those are the years of the wars? | ||
| Or is that just him? | ||
| We don't know. | ||
| But I don't know him well enough. | ||
| But I know guys, you know... | ||
| That are in that same era. | ||
| That are having real problems now. | ||
| Big time. | ||
| I mean, you gotta remember when he was fighting in Strikeforce. | ||
| God, you remember his fight with Paul Daly? | ||
| Oh my God, dude. | ||
| How about his Cyborg fight? | ||
| How good was he, man? | ||
| He was so good. | ||
| How about his Frank Shamrock fight? | ||
| Holy fuck, man. | ||
| It's a shame what happened with him and his brother in the UFC. We didn't get enough of it. | ||
| Well, the big thing... | ||
| Well, Nate... | ||
| Didn't get appreciated enough. | ||
| And he got fucked? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I had always said that after the Conor fight, one of the reasons why those fights were so big was Nate. | ||
| And for whatever reason, no one was putting that together. | ||
| I'm like, this guy's a superstar. | ||
| People go crazy when they see him. | ||
| Like, this is not a regular fight. | ||
| He's real as fuck and he smokes weed. | ||
| He's a stoner champion. | ||
| And he says fuck you to the man, everyone can relate to that. | ||
| Yeah, I get that. | ||
| And even the vegans love him, because sometimes he follows a vegan doctor. | ||
| Yeah, he checks all the boxes for a lot of reasons. | ||
| See, he's got so many good things, and he's tough as shit, and he'll fight anybody, and he's been a veteran, he's been fucking fighting forever, he's had so many wars. | ||
| What did you think of his fight against Masvidal? | ||
| We haven't talked in a long time, dude. | ||
| I know, Masvidal's so good, man. | ||
| He's so good. | ||
| I thought Masvidal, out of the three rounds, I thought it was best case for Nate, too, that they did, that that doctor stopped the fight, because I thought Masvidal was setting up to finish him. | ||
| And, you know, Nate's never been finished, so... | ||
| He has been finished. | ||
| Josh Thompson finished him. | ||
| Well, that's right. | ||
| But I'm saying, you know, it was going that way. | ||
| Yeah, it was best case scenario where he could be like, dude, what the fuck, where he doesn't lose any of that, you know... | ||
| Right. | ||
| No, I hear you. | ||
| Swag that he went into. | ||
| Yeah, well, the Josh Thompson fight was more competitive up until the moment Josh landed that high kick. | ||
| Correct, that high kick. | ||
| It was a good fight. | ||
| I think Josh was still winning that fight. | ||
| I have to go back and watch it again. | ||
| It was more competitive, though. | ||
| It was more competitive. | ||
| Because this Masvidal fight, I didn't find it that competitive. | ||
| When they got on the mic and went, oh, rematch, I went, No, there's no way. | ||
| And when Dana was like, no, that's not happening. | ||
| I was like, oh, he gets it. | ||
| Look, it was certainly competitive in that Masvidal was in a fight. | ||
| It wasn't like he ran him over. | ||
| No. | ||
| No one's going to run him over. | ||
| But that first round was devastating. | ||
| Masvidal is fucking good, man. | ||
| He's fucking smart. | ||
| He sees things and he can act on things that other guys just, they just either don't have the ability to or they don't throw themselves in the fire correctly like he does. | ||
| And then he gets out good. | ||
| His defense is on point. | ||
| He's good at everything. | ||
| He stands straight up, too. | ||
| He's got a totally different style. | ||
| Like, when you see Masvidal stand, he's hardly ever crouching. | ||
| Dude, he stands straight up. | ||
| He's got so much confidence in his wrestling takedown defense and his striking and his... | ||
| Octagon IQ that when he puts it all together, he's able to fight with his best stand-up stance. | ||
| You know, he's fighting like and he makes you aware very clear very quickly that you're in danger with his hands. | ||
| He's throwing bombs at your fucking head. | ||
| Think about his experience, man. | ||
| Think about the guys he's beat, and so now he's here. | ||
| So, you know, when you talk to him, he's like, the belt? | ||
| Fuck the belt. | ||
| I get the BMF title. | ||
| He's like, Colby and Kamara are just, they're third or fourth options for me, man. | ||
| I'm looking at Nick Diaz, I'm looking at Connor, you know? | ||
| He's like, I don't care about the belt, man. | ||
| I see why he would say that, but I think it would be a real shame if right now, in his prime of primes, he didn't fight for the title. | ||
| I just feel like he's so close. | ||
| He's huge right now. | ||
| Huge. | ||
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Huge. | |
| You wouldn't rather see him fight Nick or Connor? | ||
| No. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| No. | ||
| Well, I want to see first, no matter what, Colby and Usman. | ||
| And you're getting that. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Super excited about that. | ||
| Phenomenal fight. | ||
| Once that's done, I want Masvidal to fight for the title. | ||
| Whoever's got the belt, I think if Masvidal... | ||
| And Nate Diaz or Nick Diaz don't fight on the undercard? | ||
| I don't know if it's going to fight. | ||
| I have no idea. | ||
| I know they want it and his management said the UFC has reached out to Nick and they're trying to figure that out. | ||
| If they do make that fight happen, I mean, of course I'm going to be excited to see it. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| But my thoughts are that right now we're experiencing Masvidal in this very strange zone where you see fighters enter into it, whether it's through this rededication or refocusing of his intent and his discipline. | ||
| You know his story, how he went and did that reality show? | ||
| Yeah, and came back and was like... | ||
| Yeah, he didn't have any food, man. | ||
| This is a fucking South American reality show. | ||
| He had to go to this village and ask for food. | ||
| He also said he had time to get out from... | ||
| Sit back and think about everything going on. | ||
| I was like, alright, this is what I want to do. | ||
| And then came back and was like, let's do it, man. | ||
| And then just, he became this superstar. | ||
| And I just, you know, when I meet those guys, and obviously I know their story, and you get around them, I have this sense of just like, I'm so happy for them, man. | ||
| Like, that's why I talk about a Nick Diaz fight for Jorge, and I talk about a Conor McGregor fight, because you're not, the title, like, Kamaru and Colby, they're not making real money, man. | ||
| You don't think that Colby's going to bring in a lot of people? | ||
| No. | ||
| Well, a record would say he doesn't. | ||
| And I love Colby's fantastic fighter, but as far as ticket sales and pay-per-views, no. | ||
| You know who does? | ||
| If I'm the UFC, Colby with one big win right now. | ||
| See, he hasn't fought in a while, right? | ||
| He fights Robbie Lawler. | ||
| Before that, it was a whole year. | ||
| So there hasn't been a lot of activity. | ||
| Him and Dana hate each other. | ||
| But his crazy shit talking with his $3 suit and his fucking MAGA hat and his book. | ||
| And the strippers. | ||
| If he gets through and he beats Kamaru Usman and it gets on the internet and it becomes like a thing, he could be the next huge superstar. | ||
| He knows what he's doing. | ||
| And you and I both know him. | ||
| He's not like that guy at all. | ||
| This is a fucking character. | ||
| He's a really nice guy. | ||
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The best. | |
| He's smart as shit and his fucking discipline is unparalleled and people look at him with that stupid suit on and the MAGA hat and he's carrying around Donald Trump Jr.'s book. | ||
| It's fucking amazing, dude. | ||
| He's got the best act that anybody's ever put on in the UFC because he's got an act. | ||
| All these other guys are talking shit. | ||
| He's talking shit through a character. | ||
| He's playing game. | ||
| He made a guy! | ||
| He's playing game. | ||
| Do you think he thinks that suit looks good? | ||
| Look at that fucking suit! | ||
| Dude, that suit is the cheapest suit he could find! | ||
| Dude, when I did a food truck with him, like in between, you could see me like... | ||
| And I'd be like, dude, you don't have to do this, man. | ||
| We can just... | ||
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He has to. | |
| He's like, no, no, it's cool. | ||
|
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He has to. | |
| And then the strippers, he goes, can you... | ||
| How about... | ||
| You know what would be fun if one of you massage... | ||
| When he massaged my shoulders, she goes, get the fuck out of here. | ||
| Look at him sitting there with his book, triggered, with his fucking suit on. | ||
| He's so funny, man. | ||
| The fucking hat is signed! | ||
| Closing on the hat! | ||
| By Donald Trump because he went to the White House. | ||
| Look at that! | ||
| When he was an interim champ. | ||
| Bro. | ||
| He's still the interim champ. | ||
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Yes. | |
| You can't just take it from him. | ||
| But what's interesting too is, you know, remember him and Masvidal had, they were training partners. | ||
| So there's a story there. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| But again, I think for Masvidal... | ||
| But they're friends, apparently. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| But also, yeah, it's like an Andy Kaufman thing. | ||
| So if... | ||
| But for Masvidal to ride off in the sunset and be set up with his kids, I want to see him fight Conor, I want to see him fight Nick. | ||
| I know he made a ton of loot for that last fight. | ||
| He made a ton of loot for that last fight. | ||
| And it was a big success. | ||
| Everybody wanted to see that fight. | ||
| It was big. | ||
| And I think Masvidal's name's never been brighter. | ||
| Whoever wins the title. | ||
| Dude, think about the story of him versus Nick Diaz. | ||
| And Nick Diaz going, you beat my little brother? | ||
| That's the most I've ever relayed to the Diaz brothers when he goes, dude, you beat my little brother? | ||
| Because I have an older brother. | ||
| I was like, oh hell yeah, get him, Nick. | ||
| I'm in now, bro. | ||
| Yeah, fuck him up, man. | ||
| And people will love that too. | ||
| I mean, it'll definitely be successful. | ||
| But I would like to see Nick be real active before he fights a guy like Maslow. | ||
| That's not happening, brother. | ||
| I know, I know, you're right, you're right. | ||
| That's what's crazy about the UFC. Warm-up fight? | ||
| Excuse me? | ||
| Conor hasn't won a fight in three years. | ||
| Then before that, the only fight he's had against Khabib, he gets done boxing, then fights fucking Khabib. | ||
| He hasn't beaten anybody since the Eddie Alvarez fight when he won the title. | ||
| It's crazy, right? | ||
| It is kind of crazy. | ||
| He's making fucking half a billion dollars. | ||
| This is where you gotta, whatever you want to say about Conor, obviously his outside doctor on antics have been crazy, but you gotta respect the guy who has all that money and goes, yeah, I'll fight Cerrone in January at welterweight. | ||
| He's number five lightweight in the world. | ||
| He's like, yeah, I'll fight that guy. | ||
| Do you think that he can reignite the fire that he had when he KO'd Derek Brunson? | ||
| Nope. | ||
| When he was coming up? | ||
| Mm-mm. | ||
| No? | ||
| Not with that money in the bank. | ||
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That sucks. | |
| I don't think fighting comes from that place. | ||
| But how come some guys, when they have hundreds of millions of dollars, they still fuck people up? | ||
| Like Tyson in his prime, Lennox Lewis in his prime. | ||
| Tyson fucked people up until the bully fought back. | ||
| Oh, you mean when he fought? | ||
| Yeah, he's never the same. | ||
| I think he's also tired of it too, man. | ||
| I think it was a combination of he fought a guy who wasn't scared and didn't back down and was like, yeah, bring it, dude. | ||
| And he got fucked. | ||
| He's lost every fight that the guy was like, I'm not scared. | ||
| He lost those fights. | ||
| But I'm not saying Tyson wasn't great, but Evander Holyfield's a better boxer, man. | ||
| He's a better fighter, but he doesn't get the respect. | ||
| Well, there were some guys that weren't scared of him. | ||
| That stood in with him and he beat him by decision. | ||
| You know, like didn't he beat Razor Roddick by decision? | ||
| They had a lot of shit talking. | ||
| He KO'd Bonecruster Smith, right? | ||
| Yeah, but when we're talking about a tip of the spear like Evander Holyfield at that time, Evander Holyfield, there's a real good argument for sure that he's one of the greatest of all time. | ||
| He's the only guy to ever win the title four times. | ||
| Easy. | ||
| But I just think, you know, with Conor, especially this day and age, the UFC is different than boxing where it's such a grind, man. | ||
| I was just going to say about Evander. | ||
| And guys are so good. | ||
| Oh, my bad. | ||
| Go ahead. | ||
| Evander spent all that money. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| On like one house. | ||
| That's what I was saying. | ||
| He bought some hotel in Atlanta. | ||
| Rick Ross, the fake Rick Ross owns that house. | ||
| Not the real Freeway Ricky, the real drug dealer. | ||
| Was out there doing positive things in the community. | ||
| The rapper who took his name. | ||
| He lost in court. | ||
| Tried to get his name back. | ||
| Tried to get that guy to stop using his name or pay him to use his fucking name. | ||
| And how about that rapper Rick Ross used to be a cop. | ||
| And now you're talking about dope and all this shit. | ||
| Well, he was a security guard at a prison, I think. | ||
| I think something along those lines. | ||
| Yeah, something like that. | ||
| And how about he owns... | ||
| Look at that house! | ||
| Dude. | ||
| So Vander Holyfield made hundreds of millions of dollars. | ||
| It's only 5.8. | ||
| Oh, it was not bad because it's outside of Atlanta. | ||
| But it has 37 rooms and all his family moved in? | ||
| It cost a million dollars just to keep every year. | ||
| I think that was the word. | ||
| There was a million dollars to run. | ||
| For maintenance? | ||
| Yeah, just everything. | ||
| Holy fuck, dude. | ||
| He moved into Bellagio. | ||
| That house is so big. | ||
| Imagine that. | ||
| Rick Ross made that with another dude's name just talking shit. | ||
| What a great country. | ||
| You can just talk shit in this country and you can make fucking millions of dollars. | ||
| And the other thing Rick Ross does is he owns like a hundred Buffalo Wild Wings. | ||
| Or Buffalo Stops. | ||
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Wing Stops. | |
| Wingstop. | ||
| Shout out to Wingstop. | ||
| Shout out to Wingstop. | ||
| That's a good move, right? | ||
| People always want wings. | ||
| Wings have been around forever. | ||
| Dude, I fucking... | ||
| My mouth's watering. | ||
| I love wings, dude. | ||
| There used to be a place right outside Boston Comedy in the village. | ||
| We'd do sets at Boston Comedy, and there was this wing spot, and they had different levels, and one was suicide. | ||
| They had one... | ||
| You would get this suicide sauce on these wings. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
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Was it purple? | |
| Like almost a purple seed? | ||
| I didn't know at the time. | ||
| I didn't understand hot peppers. | ||
| But it was definitely habanero. | ||
| Because it was an orange color. | ||
| Like a real orange color. | ||
| And you would eat those wings and just be like... | ||
| It's like a weird combination of pleasure and pain at the same time. | ||
| It takes your breath away. | ||
| Your lips go white. | ||
| I fucking love wings. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't want to do that wings show though. | ||
| It's not a good way to talk, man. | ||
| You know, it's like talking while snot's coming out of your nose and you're crying. | ||
| You would do well at it though. | ||
| It's not a good place to talk. | ||
| It'd be fun though. | ||
| It'd be fun to see you on there. | ||
| I know, but why are you asking people personal questions while they're crying? | ||
| Well, it's hot as fuck. | ||
| Some guys just... | ||
| I can barely talk. | ||
| Some guys just crush it where it doesn't faze them. | ||
| How does that happen? | ||
| My friend Tommy Hershko, I've talked about him before. | ||
| There used to be a place called Chili My Soul in Encino. | ||
| And it was this crazy chili place. | ||
| This guy was into the most ridiculously hot chili. | ||
| It was so hot, you would have to sign a waiver if you wanted to buy the stuff that they put in it. | ||
| And he was telling me that even with the hottest shit that they had, they had like a number system, I think. | ||
| I think ten, you know, I think eight was like the most I could tolerate. | ||
| But they would have these guys from Nepal come, and even with the ten, number ten, the hottest shit they had, these dudes would be putting some extra hot sauce in there. | ||
| Holy fuck! | ||
| Do you like spicy stuff? | ||
| I don't like it that spicy. | ||
| I can't handle that. | ||
| Spicy, but flavorful. | ||
| I like spicy. | ||
| I love jalapenos with elk. | ||
| It's like my favorite meal. | ||
| I slice up like four or five jalapenos and I'm in a bunch of slices. | ||
| Every time I take a piece of elk, I put a piece of jalapeno on that bitch. | ||
| I know. | ||
| When you post it, I'm like balls deep in a cheese pizza. | ||
| I'm like, God damn it. | ||
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Dude. | |
| Stuff keeps you alive. | ||
| Gives you fuel. | ||
| You eat that stuff. | ||
| I know. | ||
| The spice and the pepper and the fucking... | ||
| Supernatural muscle of the elk meat. | ||
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Roar! | |
| Oh, that's the menu, man. | ||
| That was it. | ||
| That's it? | ||
| It was a number system. | ||
| Yeah, so 10. Demon is 10. See that? | ||
| 10 will fucking end your life. | ||
| 10 plus. | ||
| Oh my god, 10 plus. | ||
| And when they let you try it, they would let you try it in the tiniest cup. | ||
| Like a little paper cup, like that big. | ||
| And they'd give you a little baby spoon. | ||
| Like one of them baby spoons you would get at the ice cream store. | ||
| You want to try that different flavor? | ||
| Can I try that French vanilla? | ||
| And they'd give you a little something. | ||
| That's what it's like. | ||
| They would give you that and you would put it in your mouth and I would immediately start hiccuping. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| Your body's like, what in the fuck are you doing to me, man? | ||
| There's been a few people who on that, what the fuck the Hot Ones is? | ||
| Yeah, Hot Ones, that's right. | ||
| The Hot Ones, like Shia LaBeouf took all of them at the end, put them all together, and the guy's like, I wouldn't do that, dude. | ||
| And he did it, and he was about to throw up. | ||
| They had to bring him milk or some shit. | ||
| Well, Shia's got other issues. | ||
| He's probably just... | ||
| He does. | ||
| He's an old actor, though. | ||
| Very good. | ||
| Very good actor. | ||
| Shout out to Peanut Butter Falcon. | ||
| It's a hard road for all of us. | ||
| Yeah, it is. | ||
| He just wanted to get a little further down the road. | ||
| Just... | ||
| Spicy's not for me, dude. | ||
| Ryan and your boy Logan Paul in Hawaii. | ||
| Did you really? | ||
| Yeah, he was wandering around Hawaii. | ||
| Did you say when were you there? | ||
| I talked over Thanksgiving weekend. | ||
| He's a nice kid, right? | ||
| Very nice. | ||
| I've talked to him before. | ||
| I talked to him with you. | ||
| Oh, that's right. | ||
| We were at the Comedy Store. | ||
| He had a good fight, man. | ||
| Their fight was good. | ||
| It was a good fight. | ||
| They didn't get tired. | ||
| I mean, they fucking went after it for six rounds. | ||
| Dude, for guys like that to go, you know, I've seen guys who have experience in amateur boxing would gas the fuck out in front of a crowd like that. | ||
| Pretty impressive. | ||
| It's interesting. | ||
| You know, here's a guy also doesn't need to do that. | ||
| He makes a lot of money. | ||
| A ton of money. | ||
| Makes a ton of money, right? | ||
| Whether you like it or not, that's the reality of it. | ||
| Well, someone likes it. | ||
| That's why he's making the money. | ||
| But I mean, whether someone listening likes to hear it or not, the truth is he makes a ton of money. | ||
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Correct. | |
| You can lie all you know. | ||
| No, man, he's broke. | ||
| That guy lost all his money. | ||
| No, he's got all the money. | ||
| Not been to his ass. | ||
| He still decided to fight, which is interesting. | ||
| It's like, okay. | ||
| If you have that competitive drive in you, if you really do have it in you. | ||
| I think for him and those YouTubers, especially at his level, it's just like, what's the next thing that we can compete? | ||
| Get everyone behind? | ||
| They could have done ballet dancing. | ||
| Whatever it is, it would have sold millions and millions of dollars. | ||
| But they chose this, which I respect. | ||
| But that KSA guy, who I've never seen, I'm not familiar with him. | ||
| I know he's British, so I like British people. | ||
| So I know he was like, they're like, hey, you want to do a rematch? | ||
| He's like, fuck, I'm not getting him in the face again. | ||
| This was it, dude. | ||
| I'm done. | ||
| Well, he won for sure. | ||
| So for him, that's the best way to end it. | ||
| Yeah, he was like, I'm out. | ||
| And it was real controversial. | ||
| Well, the ref, the penalty on Logan, I thought was ridiculous. | ||
| It was a little too much. | ||
| That ref, and he's a respected ref, but it's also like... | ||
| You're in there for this kind of show. | ||
| Take it for what it is. | ||
| He doesn't ever fought before. | ||
| Don't take two points from Logan Paul because of that. | ||
| Two points? | ||
| Yeah, I didn't agree with that. | ||
| Without a warning? | ||
| That's ridiculous. | ||
| I didn't agree with that. | ||
| And I think... | ||
| With more fights, Logan could learn how to relax. | ||
| He gets wild and starts swinging. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| But Logan, stop boxing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You have a gillion dollars. | ||
| Keep doing that, dude. | ||
| Fuck this, man. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| But it was interesting watching him. | ||
| I'm like, this kid can punch. | ||
| He's athletic, man. | ||
| He's very athletic. | ||
| Driven, has a work ethic. | ||
| And in the heat of the battle, and he was trained by Shannon. | ||
| Shannon the Cannon Briggs. | ||
| Let's go, champ! | ||
| Let's go, champ. | ||
| Let's go, champ. | ||
| Was training him. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Shannon the Cannon knows how to fucking fight. | ||
| Yeah, he did a real camp, and it's just like, I respect it, but stop fighting. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Well, maybe he will know. | ||
| Maybe you will. | ||
| Yeah, you check that box, you're good, man. | ||
| Dude, what do you think about Adesanya and Yoel Romero? | ||
| Is that real? | ||
| It's not confirmed yet, is it? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I sent you something. | ||
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I was hoping. | |
| He sent that to me and I was like, holy shit! | ||
| Because I fell asleep. | ||
| I woke up in the morning and I'm like, here we go. | ||
| Is it not confirmed? | ||
| Did someone troll me? | ||
| No, I don't think so. | ||
| I think I found it on one of the websites I follow on Instagram. | ||
| But usually they leak there and then it gets announced. | ||
| But if he does fight Yoel Romero, and when I was talking to Jorge and Yoel Romero's manager when I was doing the food truck with Jorge, he was just like, oh, Jorge's getting the fight, man. | ||
| I was like, no. | ||
| He's coming off a loss. | ||
| He goes, think about his fucking losses. | ||
| He goes, he has this, do you think he lost to Paulo Costa? | ||
| I was like, no one got robbed, but I can see why they get to Paulo, but you have no argument there. | ||
| He goes, think about before that, the Robert Whitaker fight? | ||
| He got fucked with that too. | ||
| He definitely got robbed in the second Whitaker fight. | ||
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Correct. | |
| I thought he won that fight. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I've said that many, many times, too, and I haven't really heard a good argument against it. | ||
| He had him hurt real bad in at least two rounds. | ||
| Yeah, I'd have to go back. | ||
| I remember at the time I did score it for Whitaker. | ||
| Here's my thing. | ||
| That's fine. | ||
| If you think he won, yeah, all right. | ||
| I can see that. | ||
| I see both sides. | ||
| But that's an argument for giving Joel Romero the title shot. | ||
| It's not like if he got starts in the game title shot, you're like, what are you doing? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Is it real? | ||
| This is on Yoel's page. | ||
| It's not official. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| March 7th. | ||
| Here's the problem. | ||
| If Yoel hasn't heard anything... | ||
| But that's on Yoel's page. | ||
| I know, but he goes, a lot of people pudding saying we fight March. | ||
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Should I be ready? | |
| So it's like... | ||
| A lot of people pudding saying we fight March. | ||
| How about... | ||
| Should I be ready? | ||
| Should I be ready? | ||
| Gay Jesus! | ||
| How about Andrew Schultz? | ||
| Don't forget! | ||
| Andrew Schultz is super close with Izzy, and he saw that, and he goes, dude, why would Izzy fight this guy? | ||
| He doesn't speak very good English. | ||
| I'm like, dude, hold on. | ||
| What did he say? | ||
| He goes, he doesn't speak English. | ||
| He needs a guy to speak good English, right? | ||
| Talk trash. | ||
| Talk trash. | ||
| You don't understand. | ||
| Yoel Romero is such a fucking nightmare. | ||
| And for Izzy to go after Yoel, it just ups the legend of Izzy. | ||
| What he's doing is perfect. | ||
| Trust me, it's perfect. | ||
| Andrew, stay in your lane. | ||
| We love you, Andrew. | ||
| Stay in your lane. | ||
| Don't you fuck this up. | ||
| Imagine if he talked Izzy out of it. | ||
| I'd be so mad at him. | ||
| Izzy's not gonna listen to him on that. | ||
| Of course he wouldn't. | ||
| But imagine if he did. | ||
| What if Andrew had some fucking magic hypnosis power? | ||
| And Izzy was like, I talked to Schultz, man. | ||
| I'm not gonna do it. | ||
| That guy can't even talk English. | ||
| Like, what the fuck are we doing? | ||
| Why'd you do that? | ||
| Don't forget! | ||
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Hey, Jesus. | |
| Don't forget! | ||
| Dude, how about one that fight is confirmed, Ferguson-Khabib is happening. | ||
| How the fuck did people not understand he was saying don't forget? | ||
| You know, out of all the times that I've ever not done post-fight commentary, that was the time I was the most mad. | ||
| Would they not let you? | ||
| I wasn't there. | ||
| I wasn't there for that fight. | ||
| So when he was saying it was a fight that I wasn't there. | ||
| But it was somewhere else. | ||
| Where was that? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I wasn't there. | ||
| It was a pay-per-view. | ||
| Don't forget, Jesus! | ||
| Look, I know a lot of Cuban people. | ||
| I know what the fuck he's saying. | ||
| He's saying, don't forget Jesus. | ||
| It's not, go for gay. | ||
| Don't forget. | ||
| Yeah, why would he say... | ||
| Crank it up so we can hear it. | ||
| It was a fight night. | ||
| That's why you didn't do it. | ||
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Listen, people, listen. | |
| He's got a Bible quote on his forehead, folks. | ||
|
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What happened to you, USA? What happened to you? | |
| What's going on, you? | ||
| Forget! | ||
| For the best of the best of the world, the name is Jesus Christ! | ||
| What happened to you? | ||
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Go! | |
| Go back for your God! | ||
|
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Go for Jesus! | |
| Don't forget Jesus, people! | ||
| Not forget Jesus. | ||
| God, dude. | ||
| The thing is, he's going, what's wrong with you Americans? | ||
| What's wrong with you Americans? | ||
| You forget. | ||
| You forget. | ||
| You forget Jesus. | ||
| You gay people. | ||
| No. | ||
| You think that's what he said? | ||
| That's exactly what he said. | ||
| Let me hear that again. | ||
| Damn. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| Pause for a second. | ||
| I'm going to be honest. | ||
| I'm gonna be honest, I did a little bit. | ||
| I was like, wait, no. | ||
| Because he lines it up with, what's wrong with you, America? | ||
| What's wrong with you people? | ||
| Here's the problem, here's the problem. | ||
| He said, forget. | ||
| Pretty clear. | ||
| That's what fucked me up. | ||
| You forget. | ||
| You forget. | ||
| Right, but a guy like that who barely speaks. | ||
| You believe in gay Jesus. | ||
| Is that really what he said? | ||
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Yeah! | |
| Play that shit again, bro! | ||
|
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Oh, no! | |
| Cut it off, Jamie! | ||
|
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What happened to you, USA? What happened to you? | |
| What happened to you? | ||
| Hold on. | ||
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What's going on with you? | |
| Forget! | ||
| Forget the best of the best of the world! | ||
| Forget! | ||
| You forget the best of the world! | ||
| Forget! | ||
| Go ahead. | ||
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The best of the world! | |
| The name of Jesus Christ! | ||
| What happened to you? | ||
| What come, USA? What come, USA? Go! | ||
| Go back for you and go! | ||
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Go for Jesus! | |
| Not for gay Jesus people! | ||
| Not for gay Jesus people! | ||
| Maybe, but maybe not forget Jesus. | ||
| It's like, what happened to you? | ||
| Not forget Jesus. | ||
| It wasn't like there was some gay thing that was going on that he was commenting on. | ||
| No, I know. | ||
| But he's so bad at English. | ||
| He's so bad. | ||
| It easily could be, don't forget Jesus. | ||
| He said, go for Jesus. | ||
| Don't forget Jesus. | ||
| The only problem is he goes, what's wrong with you, USA? What's wrong with you? | ||
| You forget the number one, Jesus. | ||
| What's wrong with you? | ||
| Go back. | ||
| Go back. | ||
| Don't forget Jesus. | ||
| Maybe it's don't forget Jesus. | ||
| But he says don't forget, right? | ||
| One more time. | ||
| Because it doesn't make sense. | ||
| We're breaking this down. | ||
| First of all, pause for a second. | ||
| You've got to remember, he just got hit in the head. | ||
| What fight was this? | ||
| Do we remember? | ||
| And look, he's got John 316 or 318 on a bandana around his head. | ||
| He's got a Bible quote on his fucking head. | ||
| Go for Jesus, not for gay Jesus, people. | ||
| Go for Jesus, not forget Jesus. | ||
| You forget. | ||
| You forget Jesus? | ||
| It's possible. | ||
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It doesn't make sense. | |
| It doesn't make sense, period, no matter what it is. | ||
| For him to say, not for gay Jesus, that doesn't make sense. | ||
| It doesn't make sense. | ||
| Jesus is not gay. | ||
| No, there's no rumors. | ||
| He's saying, don't forget Jesus. | ||
| We might have just started a rumor about Jesus being gay. | ||
| Imagine if we were the first ones, after all these years, like, this is what I heard about Jesus. | ||
| And then it becomes like, everybody's talking about it. | ||
| There was a scroll. | ||
| He really was gay. | ||
| Shut broke it down, shut shop down. | ||
| Jesus, who's gay? | ||
| Of course, he loves everybody. | ||
| It's confusing, though. | ||
| I can see how people mix those words. | ||
|
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Don't forget! | |
| When we first watched it, I went, oh, he's going hard on the paint on the USA and gays. | ||
| But I remember thinking, when I heard it, that he was saying, don't forget, because a lot of Cubans, with that accent, they might say, don't forget! | ||
| Don't forget! | ||
| Don't forget we go out! | ||
| Don't forget, 8 o'clock, we be here! | ||
| They have that sort of way of talking, so when I hear, don't forget, I'm like, oh, he said, don't forget Jesus. | ||
| I'm going to assume he said, don't forget Jesus. | ||
| It doesn't make sense that we'd say, no, for gay Jesus. | ||
| That doesn't make any sense. | ||
| The only problem is he kept saying, USA, you forget. | ||
| USA, you forget. | ||
| And then for gay. | ||
| For gay. | ||
| But he's barely speaking English, man. | ||
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No, it's barely. | |
| It can barely. | ||
| That's not. | ||
| There's no way you should hold him accountable to be able to accentuate every word correctly. | ||
| But I think most people got over it. | ||
| And we just rehashed it. | ||
| Dude, we just rehashed it. | ||
| But listen, man, that guy is one of the most scary athletes I've ever seen in the UFC. When he knocked out Chris Wyden with that flying knee that just comes out of nowhere. | ||
| I mean, he does shit to people, man. | ||
| He throws people. | ||
| He took a fucking straight head kick from Derrick Brunson right to the neck. | ||
| Just walked it off like it was nothing. | ||
| Pretending like nothing happened. | ||
| Doesn't really use his wrestling either. | ||
| Well, he does a little, but really fucks people up. | ||
| But he doesn't really fuck with it. | ||
| Yeah, he just wants to knock your head off. | ||
| I think with his mass, right, the amount of muscle that he has. | ||
| So much muscle. | ||
| And the explosive energy required to try to take somebody down, I don't know if he can do that for five minutes for five rounds. | ||
| No, especially with a guy with takedown defense. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then he's a little bit more vulnerable with his striking if he can't explode. | ||
| See, he's not a technical striker in the vein of Stylebender. | ||
| Stylebender's a technical striker. | ||
| Stylebender is setting you up. | ||
| He's giving you looks. | ||
| Send traps. | ||
| And then he's doing things to you to see how you respond. | ||
| And then he'll fake things and high kick you. | ||
| He'll do some shit to you that you don't know is coming. | ||
| Yoel's not that. | ||
| Yoel is exploding in a way that you can't handle. | ||
| You can't be on guard all the time. | ||
| You can't be like this because you're going to burn out. | ||
| So there's going to be a moment where you relax. | ||
| There's going to be a moment where you can't quite move out of the way quick enough, and that's when he's going to leap on you. | ||
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Boom! | |
| And he hits you with that flying knee like you hit Wybin. | ||
| You're like, Jesus! | ||
| It's ridiculous. | ||
| I think for Stalben, though, and just looking up the matchup and what Stalben did to Robert Whittaker, I do think Izzy finishes him. | ||
| I do. | ||
| It's all about if Izzy can just keep him from taking him down. | ||
| Because if they're standing up... | ||
| The thing about Yoel is these leaps, these power, these giant explosive movements. | ||
| But Izzy's going to be aware of that. | ||
| He's going to try to stand on the outside. | ||
| He's seen that before. | ||
| Look at Robert Whitaker. | ||
| Never really had an opportunity to explode like that. | ||
| Izzy's so good at distance, and he's fought big, powerful guys before. | ||
| So he's seen that. | ||
| You know, the one guy that knocked out Izzy is starting to fight in MMA again. | ||
| That's Alex Pereira. | ||
| Do you know who he is? | ||
| He's fucking terrifying. | ||
| That dude is a ruthless striker. | ||
| How's his MMA coming, though? | ||
| I have no idea. | ||
| I know he talks shit to Izzy, but it's like... | ||
| That's because he KO'd him in a kickboxing fight. | ||
| He hit him with a horrific left hook. | ||
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Robert... | |
| I mean, Alex Pereira fucks up everybody, man. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| MMA's a different animal. | ||
| Very different. | ||
| Different animal. | ||
| Very different animal. | ||
| But in kickboxing... | ||
| He has a ways to go. | ||
| It's too bad people don't know who that guy is. | ||
| I know. | ||
| You know, because in kickboxing... | ||
| I mean, you see what he did to Jason Wellness? | ||
| No. | ||
| Holy fuck, dude. | ||
| Tore him up. | ||
| Holy fuck. | ||
| I really fault kickboxing, man. | ||
| Pull up Alex Pereira versus Jason Willness in Glory. | ||
| It's for the world title. | ||
| Dude, he's a fucking Terminator. | ||
| He smashes people. | ||
| Who's he fighting with? | ||
| Well, it's all cool. | ||
| Is he just in some low level? | ||
| No, man. | ||
| He's fighting in Glory. | ||
| No, I'm saying MMA. Well, I don't know. | ||
| I have no idea. | ||
| I just heard that he's about to do it again. | ||
| I don't know if a matchup has even been announced. | ||
| But his fucking striking is so dangerous. | ||
| Because in a lot of ways, he reminds me... | ||
| He's big. | ||
| He's very big. | ||
| Not with the finality of the way Deontay Wilder punches, but with that kind of... | ||
| He's got that kind of ability to finish. | ||
| He's rangy like him. | ||
| Deontay is something special. | ||
| He really is. | ||
| He's 216 pounds. | ||
| Nobody knocks people out with a punch like that. | ||
| God's gift. | ||
| To the forehead. | ||
| I mean, I've never seen it. | ||
| He's like the new next level in terms of striking power. | ||
| You know Ruiz and Joshua's rematch is Saturday. | ||
| That's right. | ||
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That's right. | |
| The 7th. | ||
| So in this fight, he sets him up and I think he hits him with a knee and then a high kick. | ||
| He stops him. | ||
| Or a high kick first and then a knee. | ||
| It's coming up here. | ||
| But Pereira is one of those guys where... | ||
| Okay, it's right there. | ||
| You just missed the knockdown. | ||
| Here it is. | ||
| Pereira is one of those guys that can really do this to anybody. | ||
| It's just a matter of if he hits you. | ||
| So, like, Willness is as tough as they come. | ||
| Boom! | ||
| There's the head kicked. | ||
| Goddamn. | ||
| Jason Willness is as tough as they come. | ||
| He's been in there with some fucking killers. | ||
| In fact, Izzy lost to Jason Willness by decision. | ||
| I thought it was kind of a bad decision. | ||
| I thought Stylebender won. | ||
| Oh, look at that. | ||
| That's it, man. | ||
| Back that up again. | ||
| I was talking. | ||
| Let's see that again. | ||
| Watch this. | ||
| This is how good Alex fucking Pereira is, son. | ||
| Watch this. | ||
| Boom! | ||
| One more time. | ||
| Look how good that knee is. | ||
| Watch that left knee. | ||
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Bam! | |
| I mean, that shit's perfect. | ||
| Perfect. | ||
| Look at that again. | ||
| Watch this. | ||
| Boom! | ||
| I mean, that is a perfect flying knee. | ||
| And that's just how tough Jason Woolness is. | ||
| Where was his MMA fight, Jamie? | ||
| Do you know? | ||
| So he's got one for everybody. | ||
| If he can stop a takedown. | ||
| Remember Rico Van Hoeven came over? | ||
| Yeah, he was training at AK. Have we heard from him? | ||
| Did he just stop? | ||
| Well, Rico's got that rematch with Badr Hari. | ||
| In kickboxing. | ||
| Yeah, that's coming up real soon. | ||
| But I thought he was going to keep doing MMA and eventually come on over to the dark side. | ||
| I think he wants to do that after Badr Hari, but the Badr Hari fight is the biggest fight in all of kickboxing. | ||
| Okay, so he's had two fights that he won and one fight that he lost. | ||
| So he lost his MMA debut by submission, rear naked choke, but then he won two fights by KO and TKO. He hasn't fought in three years. | ||
| He's fighting in jungle fights, which is kind of like the LFA. Yeah, yeah. | ||
| But that was then. | ||
| I mean, who knows who he's fighting now. | ||
| But see if you can pull up Alice Pereira fight soon. | ||
| How old is he? | ||
| I don't want to say he's like 30. How old is he? | ||
| James, does it say? | ||
| 32. 32. He hasn't fought in two years. | ||
| He'll be tough. | ||
| Well, it's all about whether or not he's got a ground game. | ||
| I don't know anything about his ground game. | ||
| All I know about is his striking is fucking ferocious. | ||
| Dude, he's so scary. | ||
| And he could do that to anybody. | ||
| If you could do that to Stylebender, you could fucking do that to anybody. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| And if you see the Stylebender fight, he catches him in a clean left hook and just shuts his lights out. | ||
| But shows you how good Stylebender is, too. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Boom. | ||
| Look how good this guy is. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| Bro. | ||
| But how about Stylebender has the skill set to fight a guy like that? | ||
| That wasn't Stylebender right there. | ||
| That was a different fight. | ||
| Was that different? | ||
| He's the current champion set of glory. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| He's two division champion. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| Yeah, he's fighting 205 and 85. Right? | ||
| Is that the two differences in the weight classes? | ||
| I think so. | ||
| Either way. | ||
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Murderer. | |
| Just a murderer. | ||
| Scary guy. | ||
| There's a... | ||
| There's everybody, and then there's Wilder. | ||
| There's everybody. | ||
| Everybody with power you've ever seen, and then there's Wilder. | ||
| Wilder's power is like, what is happening? | ||
| He's got super power. | ||
| Yeah, like his technique's not phenomenal. | ||
| Sometimes he throws from the hip. | ||
| It's just like when he touches you, it's over. | ||
| And here's the thing. | ||
| He's not like George Foreman or these bigger dudes. | ||
| He floats around 213 to 219. Yeah. | ||
| Big dude? | ||
| Not even remotely big. | ||
| It's insane, man. | ||
| It's insane. | ||
| When he hit Ortiz on the forehead and just... | ||
| And that's not an easy fight now. | ||
| Ortiz is a fucking monster. | ||
| No, and it showed. | ||
| I mean, Ortiz was winning in my book. | ||
| He was winning up to that punch. | ||
| And now you got Fury Wilder in February. | ||
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Dude. | |
| Can't wait for that. | ||
| What do you think about Saturday Night? | ||
| What do you mean? | ||
| Oh, with Ruiz? | ||
| I think Joshua pieces him up. | ||
| You do? | ||
| I do. | ||
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Really? | |
| I hate when people say, you know, oh, it's like a Buster Douglas situation. | ||
| It's not because... | ||
| Someone doesn't like Mexicans. | ||
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So, yeah. | |
| We're kidding, folks. | ||
| Yeah, my girl's Mexican. | ||
| Both my kids are Mexican. | ||
| His kids are Mexican. | ||
| Yeah, my kids are Mexican, for God's sake. | ||
| Dude, Andy Ruiz has got a shot. | ||
| He has a shot, but because he was also... | ||
| It's not a fluke like Buster Douglas, Mike Tyson, because Andy Ruiz was winning most of the fight before he even knocked him out. | ||
| He got knocked down third, but he was winning... | ||
| He had more rounds in the bank. | ||
| Well, he got knocked down, but then he got back up and knocked Joshua down. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| So he was ahead on the scorecards, too. | ||
| And then he just stopped them, right? | ||
| But I think it was the perfect storm for Anthony Joshua to lose the fight. | ||
| I think Joshua knows what he's dealing with. | ||
| Remember, that was a late replacement. | ||
| He was supposed to fight Big Baby Miller. | ||
| And also going into that camp, he was dealing with some personal issues, which everybody does. | ||
| But the other thing is, the rumor is he got knocked out in camp by a Philadelphia heavyweight. | ||
| Who's the guy? | ||
| Do you know? | ||
| I forget. | ||
| He's a stud. | ||
| I definitely heard the rumor from multiple different sources that he got knocked out. | ||
| Legit source I heard. | ||
| A guy who would know. | ||
| It seemed like it. | ||
| There was another rumor that he had a nervous breakdown in the locker room. | ||
| That he knew he shouldn't have been fighting. | ||
| And his dad was like, no, let's not go out there. | ||
| So that's why he sees his dad arguing with Eddie Hearn. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And here's what else is interesting, too, is now they're doing the rematch. | ||
| It's in Saudi Arabia. | ||
| They didn't have arena there. | ||
| They built it for this. | ||
| Seats 15,000 people. | ||
| So crazy. | ||
| He's making $75 million, some shit like that, for this fight. | ||
| And... | ||
| I think they know what's going on. | ||
| There's something going on because it's away from everything. | ||
| Media's not going to be the Saudi Arabia. | ||
| So there's like the pressure of the English crowds not there. | ||
| So they're trying to protect the golden goose here in Saudi Arabia. | ||
| Would you think he's the golden goose? | ||
| Here's what I think. | ||
| I think if Andy Ruiz knocks him out again, he's as big a golden goose as there is in the world. | ||
| Andy Ruiz? | ||
| You know how many fucking Mexicans there are, bro? | ||
| I don't have to tell you. | ||
| You made two yourself. | ||
| There's a lot of Mexicans. | ||
| A lot of Mexicans, man. | ||
| And the guy's soft-spoken. | ||
| He's a sweetheart. | ||
| He's got fantastic hands. | ||
| I mean, he's got a fluidity to him that you rarely see in the heavyweight division. | ||
| Whereas a lot of heavyweights, they're like big one-punch guys. | ||
| Andy Ruiz is like bobbing and weaving and throwing combinations. | ||
| But people are confused because if you've just discovered Andy Ruiz in the Anthony Joshua fight, he's not a finisher. | ||
| He's not a knockout artist. | ||
| That was just that fight. | ||
| It was balls to the wall. | ||
| He just had nothing to lose. | ||
| He was like playing with house money. | ||
| But now, he's a better pure boxer than Joshua, but Joshua, I bet you finishes him under 10. Interesting. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, he definitely hurt him in the first fight. | ||
| He hurt him first and then threw caution to the wind and got cracked. | ||
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Yep. | |
| Because he underestimated Andy's resolve and his ability to recover from the big shot. | ||
| He didn't realize how good Andy is inside that close quarters. | ||
| Now imagine what would happen if instead of going crazy and trying to stop him, what if he just boxes on the outside and keeps trying to land a big shot. | ||
| Yeah, that's what he's gonna do. | ||
| Instead of going in like he did in the first fight. | ||
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Correct. | |
| And then Ruiz, I think, is going to stand outside, use a jab, set him up. | ||
| He's going to win rounds with footwork and boxing in the jab. | ||
| And then eventually, 6, 7, 8, Ruiz is going to be way down on the cards and be like, all right, fuck it, go for a broken. | ||
| I think he gets caught coming in. | ||
| Interesting prediction. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| It's boxing. | ||
| I feel like Ruiz is going to have incredible confidence because he's going into this fight knowing that he's able to beat the heavyweight champion of the world, win the title, and he's got a fucking Rolls Royce now, okay? | ||
| He's going in there with champ attitude. | ||
| You think? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Or is he going there doubting himself? | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| One or two things. | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| You think he realized he can hang with the champ? | ||
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Yes. | |
| He knocked him out. | ||
| He won the title. | ||
| I think he's the fucking champ. | ||
| And I think he's got more love and more respect than he's ever had in his life. | ||
| Oh, 100%. | ||
| And I think he likes it. | ||
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100%. | |
| And he seems like he's having a good time. | ||
| I think we see an even better Andy Ruiz. | ||
| You think he beats him? | ||
| Yep. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know if he beats him. | ||
| But I think he's going to be better. | ||
| I think Joshua's going to be better, too. | ||
| I think both guys realize. | ||
| A better Joshua. | ||
| But also, if Joshua loses his fight, it's like, where does he go from here? | ||
| I don't know, man. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I mean, look, you tell me you wouldn't want to see Joshua Wilder? | ||
| I'll watch Joshua Fury all goddamn day. | ||
| I'll watch that, too. | ||
| I think Wilder knocks Joshua Cole. | ||
| I want to see everything. | ||
| Me, too. | ||
| I want to see it all. | ||
| I want to see everything. | ||
| I want to see all of it. | ||
| I think Andy lost weight. | ||
| What does Andy weigh now? | ||
| I think he's down. | ||
| His speed's trouble, man. | ||
| Dude, his combinations. | ||
| He's so fluid. | ||
| So silky smooth. | ||
| People forget about Joshua, though, man. | ||
| You gotta remember. | ||
| Can't forget. | ||
| Dude was a gold. | ||
| And he got dropped by Vladimir Klitschko. | ||
| Remember that? | ||
| Came back and fucked him up. | ||
| Flatlined him. | ||
| He has to beat Dillian White. | ||
| His resume's insane. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| I mean, Olympic gold medalist. | ||
| And probably the best body in the history of the division. | ||
| That boy's bodied up. | ||
| Seriously. | ||
| Especially when he fought Ruiz, he was a little thick. | ||
| I think he's lost a little weight himself. | ||
| I think one of the things he's done is he's gone less strength and conditioning and more pure boxing. | ||
| He was so big. | ||
| He was talking about that. | ||
| He said essentially his word, the way he described it is, I was listening to this interview with him, some English gentleman, and he was saying that, you think about it, you have 100% of your energy. | ||
| If you put 50% of it to strength and conditioning and 50% of it to boxing, you're not going to achieve the same amount as if you put 100% to boxing. | ||
| Something to that effect. | ||
| So the idea is he's doing less road work, he's doing more conditioning in the gym, and he's doing heavy bags, mitts. | ||
| It's smart. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's because if you look at Andy Ruiz's kind of advantages over and be speed combinations, so you don't want to just be this big heavy bulk. | ||
| Also, if you're looking at future matchups, Fury and Wilder, they're all lighter on the feet, move better, better cardio. | ||
| So how much weight has he lost? | ||
| This is him. | ||
| This is Joshua. | ||
| He said he's taken on a prison workout mindset for this fight. | ||
| Well, his career is on the line, I think. | ||
| Here's the thing, too. | ||
| And it's the same with Conor McGregor. | ||
| Conor's career is on the line as well against Cowboy. | ||
| Oh, for sure. | ||
| So when you put these guys... | ||
| Andrew East has tricked fans into thinking he's lost weight. | ||
| He did that Burt Kreischer trick for this picture, he said, where he lifted his arms up in the air. | ||
| Burt Kreischer trick. | ||
| First of all, how dare you? | ||
| Did he quote Burt Kreischer, though? | ||
| No, no. | ||
| I wish he did. | ||
| He looks exactly the same. | ||
| He's exactly the same. | ||
| More recent training video where he looks the same. | ||
| Let me see. | ||
| Even fatter, he said. | ||
| There's a video of him hitting the shield, and he misses and catches his trainer on the chin. | ||
| Get a little wild! | ||
| Fuck. | ||
| Yeah, he drops his trainer. | ||
| I would be worried about Andy Ruiz. | ||
| You know, he hasn't seen the spotlight in that money, and there's the Rolls Royce, and he might have been parting San Diego. | ||
| I'd be worried about him. | ||
| I'd be worried about him, you know, being like, oh, this is the life. | ||
| Yeah, that's possible. | ||
| But I don't think so. | ||
| I think he's a disciplined guy. | ||
| I think he just is wild. | ||
| And just loves food. | ||
| He can't be that disciplined with that body. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| He looks a certain way that you're not going to get away with... | ||
| Discipline doesn't come when it comes to food. | ||
| Well, it's not going to win any best body contests, but he fucks a lot of people up. | ||
| Fucks a lot of people up. | ||
| I don't think he's going to trick Joshua this time, though. | ||
| I think the first time he tricked him, Joshua's probably looking at him like, I'm going to fuck this boy. | ||
| Joshua's like, oh, that's what you do? | ||
| I've seen this in the millions of fights I've had in the Olympics. | ||
| Watch this. | ||
| That's what I think is going to happen. | ||
| Now, if Ruiz wins, alright. | ||
| But, you know, I just don't see it, man. | ||
| It's so interesting because it becomes as big a fight as Wilder Fury 2. It becomes a giant fight. | ||
| Wilder Fury 2, to me, is the heavyweight fight. | ||
| That's the heavyweight fight. | ||
| I'm really interested in this fight. | ||
| Joshua's third, I think. | ||
| It used to be Joshua No. | ||
| 1, the golden child. | ||
| Obviously, he lost, so he fell off. | ||
| But Wilder and Fury have just been doing their thing, man. | ||
| Well, the fight that I want to see more than anything is Wilder Fury 2. That's the number one. | ||
| Me too. | ||
| Just because the first one was so controversial. | ||
| And fantastic. | ||
| So good. | ||
| And, you know, I re-watched it yesterday, in fact. | ||
| You can make a real, real solid argument that Tyson Fury got robbed. | ||
| Oh, 100%. | ||
| The only argument for Deontay Wilder is, you know, he did knock him down. | ||
| Oh, if the fight was a fight, if it was a fight fight, you know, like in the streets, and two guys were going at it like that, and one guy dropped the guy and blasted him, and then dropped him in the end, and he was laying on his back, and he got up, and, you know, at the end of the round, they decided it was the end of the fight, you would say, man, I think he won. | ||
| He fucked that dude up. | ||
| But as far as boxing rules go... | ||
| It's a boxing contest. | ||
| Fury won that fight. | ||
| Fury won the boxing contest. | ||
| But Deontay Wilder, man. | ||
| I like the draw, though, because Deontay Wilder did the most damage in the fight. | ||
| So I was like, when it was a draw, I'm like, oh, I dig that. | ||
| Here's the argument against the draw, though. | ||
| He gets dropped. | ||
| Tyson Fury gets dropped in the final round, right? | ||
| Loses one point for sure, right? | ||
| It's definitely now a 10-8 round for Deontay Wilder after that knockdown. | ||
| It was a bad knockdown. | ||
| But then he gets up and wins the rest of the round. | ||
| Wins the rest of the round. | ||
| So what do you say there? | ||
| You give him a point for that. | ||
| No, Fury won the fight. | ||
| So what is it? | ||
| 9-8? | ||
| What is that then? | ||
| If it's a 10-point must system, how does that work? | ||
| Does that mean... | ||
| Then would it go back to even? | ||
| Can you have a 7-7 round if you both drop each other twice? | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| No. | ||
| Right? | ||
| What happens there? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Imagine if guys just like... | ||
| But wouldn't it just go back to... | ||
| You wouldn't score that round 10-8, you'd do it 10-9. | ||
| Shouldn't we know this? | ||
| It'd just be a 10-9. | ||
| I should definitely know this. | ||
| We're not boxing judges. | ||
| But we use the same scores in the UFC, don't they? | ||
| Dude, does this not worry you at all? | ||
| So Khabib, Tony, I'm like, fuck yeah, finally. | ||
| Best fight, skill-wise, all-time lightweight division. | ||
| One of the best fights the UFC could ever make. | ||
| But same place, Brooklyn. | ||
| Brooklyn might have voodoo. | ||
| Why are we doing it there, dude? | ||
| I don't know, man. | ||
| And guess who's the doctor? | ||
| Probably homeboy freaked out when he saw blood on Nate Diaz. | ||
| Oh, that's right. | ||
| So he's a doctor? | ||
| You don't think Tony Ferg's gonna be using those elbows? | ||
| Oh my god, that's so true. | ||
| Doc, take a fucking hike. | ||
| That's so true. | ||
| He's gonna be using those elbows from the bottom too, son. | ||
| He's not scared of getting taken down. | ||
| Not at all. | ||
| Not at all. | ||
| Enjoys it. | ||
| Mike's fighting off his back. | ||
| He loves it. | ||
| You're gonna get that fight. | ||
| I think you're gonna get one of the greatest trilogies of... | ||
| He can scramble in a way that other guys can't. | ||
| When you look at the matchups, you're just like, holy shit, Tony is a perfect kind of foe for Khabib. | ||
| Well, particularly because he's so good at submitting people from his back. | ||
| With everything. | ||
| With arms and with legs. | ||
| I mean, he beat Kevin Lee with a triangle. | ||
| Think about how many people he darsed. | ||
| How about that Barboza fight? | ||
| Remember that fight? | ||
| So he darsed a guy that's completely covered in blood, which is so hard to do. | ||
| Here's the other thing you've got to remember. | ||
| Tony doesn't get tired. | ||
| Doesn't get tired. | ||
| It's a wave. | ||
| It's a slow wave. | ||
| So in the fifth, he's actually better than he was in the first. | ||
| How is that possible? | ||
| What the fuck is he doing, strength and conditioning-wise, that other people are not? | ||
| He's just always been that way. | ||
| I think it's a genetic thing. | ||
| I used to train with Tony at RAIN. He would spar with everybody else, keep going to guys like, I'm good, then go to the bag or run sprints. | ||
| He's just... | ||
| It's just in his DNA to keep going. | ||
| You talked to Eddie about it. | ||
| Like, dude, he's doing six-hour-long practices. | ||
| Yeah, they said there's no one like him, and they said that everybody else gets exhausted. | ||
| All the people that train with him, they're all getting exhausted. | ||
| And he's lapping them, running hills. | ||
| Does his hill sprints? | ||
| Laps, everybody. | ||
| I mean, just a freak. | ||
| Like the Cain Velasquez thing, we're like, what the fuck's going on here? | ||
| What is happening there? | ||
| You know what it is? | ||
| Both Mexican. | ||
| Dude, there's something about that. | ||
| Something there. | ||
| Gilbert Melendez, too, back in his prime, known for having cardio. | ||
| Actually, he said it. | ||
| I think a lot of his powerful Mexican genetics. | ||
| Mexican DNA. Listen, man, you know how many endurance athletes- Andy Ruiz says, hold my ham sandwich. | ||
| I think it's a meatball sub. | ||
| Maybe some quesadillas. | ||
| Hold my fucking tamale real quick. | ||
| If he wins, dude, come on, man. | ||
| You know what kind of celebration we're going to have in LA? If he beats Ruiz? | ||
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You think? | |
| If he beats Joshua, rather? | ||
| Yeah, maybe. | ||
| I mean, Canelo's the fucking guy for Mexicans. | ||
| He's the fucking man, too. | ||
| Here's the really crazy thing. | ||
| Ready for this? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| If Andy Ruiz lost all the fat on his body, how much do you think he'd weigh? | ||
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135. He's a son of a bitch. | |
| He's a son of a bitch. | ||
| I know. | ||
| No disrespect. | ||
| No disrespect. | ||
| It's all disrespect. | ||
| I think he's probably 250, right? | ||
| 250, 260. He's not tall either, man. | ||
| He's maybe 6'1", 6'2". | ||
| Six foot tall. | ||
| Six foot? | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And that's on there, so it's really 5'11". | ||
| And what's his weight? | ||
| Oh, boys. | ||
| I want to say it's $2.50. | ||
| You say $2.50? | ||
| It's thick like a bowl of guacamole. | ||
| Yeah, $2.50 guacamole is so thick. | ||
| It's so thick. | ||
| Guacamole is the thickest. | ||
| You can't drink that? | ||
| No, it's the thickest. | ||
| You can drink yogurt. | ||
| You can't drink guacamole. | ||
| They make yogurt drinks. | ||
| They don't make guacamole drinks. | ||
| It's so great. | ||
| Get the fuck out of here. | ||
| What do we got? | ||
| I'm a fan of him. | ||
| I just think... | ||
| Oh, did he really weigh 262? | ||
| It wasn't his last fight, but he fought at 262. What was he against Anthony Joshua in the first fight? | ||
| Dude, 5'11", 262? | ||
| That boy is... | ||
| He can lose a little. | ||
| I'm not going to lie. | ||
| Or not. | ||
| Or he's just like, why, dude? | ||
| I'm the heavyweight champion of the world. | ||
| He has three belts. | ||
| He has more belts than Wilder. | ||
| He has more belts than anybody. | ||
| But here's an argument that I always used to make about Roy Nelson, is that he could take body shots better because it's like he's wearing eight sweaters. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| 100%, man. | ||
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Right. | |
| And they hit like a Mack truck. | ||
| Yeah, dude, very similar, both of them. | ||
| But if you think about, like, Roy's belly, Roy would take a shot to the belly like it was nothing. | ||
| Dude, people would kick him. | ||
| Remember, like, Frank was kicking him. | ||
| Everybody's kicking him. | ||
| Krokop rocked him in the stomach. | ||
| Yeah, 260. He's the only guy. | ||
| It listed, I couldn't find it in pounds, it was listed as 19 stones and 2 pounds, so I had to fucking convert it. | ||
| So is that 268? | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| You 270, bro. | ||
| 5'11", 270? | ||
| He's a little thick. | ||
| Leave him alone. | ||
| Isn't it weird? | ||
| Because think about it, he trains hard. | ||
| He trains hard, but he must eat the shit out of some Mexican food. | ||
| Mexican genetics, dude. | ||
| Mexican food, too, will pack on the pounds. | ||
| If you're looking at some calorie-dense food, there's a place up here. | ||
| Is that place on Canoga? | ||
| Where is that place? | ||
| That Mexican joint that we go to? | ||
| Talking about Seoul? | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Have you been to Seoul? | ||
| It's one of the best places. | ||
| This is one little joint. | ||
| I don't even want to say the name because I don't want them to get flooded. | ||
| Oh, don't, because I need a spot around here. | ||
| It's so good, dude. | ||
| It's so good. | ||
| It's so authentic. | ||
| You go in, the Mexican soap operas are playing. | ||
|
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Nobody speaks English. | |
| Oh, my girl's going to freak out. | ||
|
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Really? | |
| You're going to love it. | ||
| Yeah, they've got those pickled jalapenos with onions. | ||
| Tell me off here. | ||
| A big old candy. | ||
| I'm going to stop there on the way home. | ||
| I'm going to freak the fuck out. | ||
| Oh, my goodness. | ||
| They've got lengua quesadillas. | ||
| My baby's six days old. | ||
| Already eating jalapenos, dude. | ||
| It's just fucking... | ||
| Crack over the beer, wear the sombrero. | ||
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Woo! | |
| If I had one food forever, it might be Mexican. | ||
| Mexican or Italian? | ||
| Yeah, one of those two. | ||
| If I could only have one thing forever, like a specific ethnic food. | ||
| Mexican's so good. | ||
| Although it's kind of... | ||
|
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Well, you know what? | |
| I might say Brazilian. | ||
| Really? | ||
| I might say Churras Correa. | ||
| If I had one... | ||
| All the meats? | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| I wouldn't miss the meat. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Dude, you got carne asada with Mexican though, dude. | ||
| Oh, that's true. | ||
|
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Whew. | |
| That's true. | ||
| Carne asada? | ||
| Yeah, but if there's a Mexican joint next to a fogo de chow... | ||
| You know what? | ||
| I'm not a big fogo de chow guy. | ||
| Stresses me out. | ||
| I gotta flip the green. | ||
| They just keep coming. | ||
| I'm sweating. | ||
| And I don't eat the salad bar. | ||
| I'm like, you ain't funny dick me on that, dude. | ||
| That's how you keep your own digestive tract clean. | ||
| You need some fiber. | ||
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Nah, fuck that. | |
| I only eat the filet. | ||
| The real expensive one. | ||
| I'm like, you know what I'm looking for. | ||
| You like the filet? | ||
| Oh, dude. | ||
| I forget what is the way to go. | ||
| I think that's it. | ||
| Top roast? | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Oh, it's real pink? | ||
| When they bring the chicken or the sausage, I'm like, bitch, I didn't come here for sausage. | ||
| Go get the fucking red meat, bro. | ||
| What's with the dried tomatoes? | ||
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Oh, my God. | |
| Dude. | ||
| Get the fuck out of my face, dude. | ||
| I know you could put away some food. | ||
| I guarantee you, Ari Shafir will eat you under the table in that place. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| I don't eat that much food. | ||
| But you can if you wanted to. | ||
| I could. | ||
| You could. | ||
| You got a lot of room. | ||
| Yeah, you're right. | ||
| You're a big fella. | ||
| I'm bigger than Ari. | ||
| Ari Shafir, I'm telling you, I've never seen nothing like it. | ||
| He can eat. | ||
| He just goes for plates and plates. | ||
| All of us, including Diaz. | ||
| It's always the skinny guy. | ||
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We're all sitting back. | |
| Sitting back going, what the fuck is going on? | ||
|
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He's like, it's free. | |
| It's free. | ||
| Eat as much as you want. | ||
| I'm gonna keep eating. | ||
| So I think Ari, when he knows he's gonna go to Fogo the Child, he like won't eat for like a day. | ||
| That's the Jew in him, man. | ||
| He's just gangster about it. | ||
| I think it's competitive as well. | ||
| It's competitive as fuck. | ||
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You think you're going to make me pay this much and I'm not going to eat more than that's worth? | |
| Dude, we had Dan Soder on. | ||
| Do you know who the comic? | ||
| Yeah, comic. | ||
| Funny guy, man. | ||
| He's the best. | ||
| He's got a new HBO special, right? | ||
| Yeah, damn. | ||
| He's from Aurora. | ||
| We played against each other in high school. | ||
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Oh, no shit. | |
| What did he play? | ||
| He played linebacker at Smokey Hill. | ||
| I played at Overland. | ||
| So we know each other. | ||
| That's hilarious. | ||
| Yeah, so we had him on the show today. | ||
| But he was talking about how the culture in LA, the comics, how they help each other out. | ||
| And I was like, well, that's because Joe Rogan is the guy that cultivated that kind of atmosphere where... | ||
| We help each other out in the podcast game and the comics. | ||
| Joe's the one who started that. | ||
| And he goes, you know who starred in New York? | ||
| And I'm like, I don't see it in New York. | ||
| I know you guys. | ||
| And Andrew Schultz is kind of part of the squad over here now. | ||
| And he goes, when Ari moved from L.A. because of Joe, when Ari moved from L.A., came to New York, he came in there and was like, what the fuck's wrong with you guys? | ||
| What's wrong with you guys? | ||
| And just kind of took over. | ||
| I was like, no, no, we're going to help each other out, man. | ||
| And he learned that, obviously, you and Ari are close. | ||
| But he took that same attitude and brought it to New York. | ||
| That's interesting. | ||
| My take on it was always you should treat it like martial arts. | ||
| Like, we're in there doing battle. | ||
| It's not us versus us. | ||
| And if you're better, I get better. | ||
| It's better for everybody. | ||
| And we got into this because we're fans of comedy. | ||
| I got into comedy because I loved watching it. | ||
| I want to watch it. | ||
| I want to watch Diaz. | ||
| I want to watch Theo. | ||
| I want to watch Count. | ||
| I want to watch you. | ||
| I want to watch people kill. | ||
| But we're all friends, though, too. | ||
| I want to watch McCoskey. | ||
| It's also your friends. | ||
| I don't want to see anybody bomb. | ||
| I know we laugh when someone bombs, but... | ||
| Dude, we know so many good comics. | ||
| Bill Burr. | ||
| I mean, God the fucking shit. | ||
| There's so many of them now. | ||
| Delia. | ||
| There's so many murders. | ||
| Whitney. | ||
| There's a bunch of murders. | ||
| Bert. | ||
| Schultz. | ||
| Dude, there's so many. | ||
| Mark Norman. | ||
| Schultz is murdered. | ||
| Mark Norman's hilarious. | ||
| There's so many good comics now. | ||
| And if you really love comedy, we're supposed to do that for each other. | ||
| There's not many of us, man. | ||
| The idea that your success somehow or another is bad for me, that's crazy. | ||
| What am I going to be in Tennessee when you're in Tennessee? | ||
| Are you going to come follow me around? | ||
| We're going to battle for the same customers? | ||
| There's fucking people everywhere! | ||
| There's 300 million people! | ||
| We've also done shows in the same town, and you're doing these giant arenas. | ||
| Yeah, we just did that. | ||
| And I'm doing the improv, and they all sell out. | ||
| Everything's selling out. | ||
| Yeah, dude, we have a unique thing, and this unique thing is really only appreciated by... | ||
| By the people that are doing it like everybody that's doing it Like realizes like this is unusual. | ||
| We haven't had this before but but I think it comes from you You need someone in your position to do them people. | ||
| Oh, that's a he's killing and he's nice like that. | ||
| Oh, that makes sense I think that's where it comes from. | ||
| I'm very happy. | ||
| I'm very happy because it's a different feel. | ||
| It's a different time. | ||
| When I was coming up in my early days, the Comedy Store was very backstabby. | ||
| People didn't help anybody and they weren't happy when you got good things. | ||
| There just wasn't a lot of camaraderie. | ||
| Me and Diaz, that was my first real comrade at the store. | ||
| You know, when I became like really good friends with Joey. | ||
| Because I realized like Joey's like a real guy. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| He's the best guy. | ||
| He's an animal. | ||
| Like he grew up. | ||
| I mean, when I met him, it was only a few years after you get released for armed kidnapping. | ||
| But I knew who he was. | ||
| Like I got it. | ||
| I go, I'm like, this is a man. | ||
| Like I'm his friend. | ||
| We're friends. | ||
| I'm that guy's friends to the death. | ||
| I'm his friend to the death. | ||
| And I know that about him with me. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| We became friends, like, real early on in our life. | ||
| And you guys would go on the road together? | ||
| Oh, yeah, man. | ||
| I would eat it, man. | ||
| I ate it going on after him once in Jersey. | ||
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Oh, dude. | |
| I wasn't ready. | ||
| I'd only been doing comedy. | ||
| You gotta realize, when I came out to LA, I'd only been doing comedy six years. | ||
| 2, 4, 6, 84. 94, yes. | ||
| Were you headlining in six years? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And I shouldn't have been, you know? | ||
| And I ate it a few times. | ||
| I ate it once. | ||
| I was headlining four years in, and Jim Brewer made me fucking go down in flames. | ||
| It was one of the most horrific bombings of my career. | ||
| But I learned something out of it. | ||
| One, I learned by watching Jim. | ||
| Jim was murdering, just destroying. | ||
| And two, I learned that I was nervous. | ||
| I was real nervous before I went on. | ||
| I wasn't enjoying him. | ||
| I wasn't laughing at him. | ||
| Instead, I was scared. | ||
| I was sitting back there scared that I had to go next. | ||
| How am I going to follow this? | ||
| Instead of laughing and enjoying it and going up there as a guy who's having a good time and wants everybody to have a good time, I was going up there selfish. | ||
| I wasn't thinking about having a good time. | ||
| I wasn't thinking about being the director of having a good time. | ||
| So I had to learn that with Diaz. | ||
| I learned that with Brewer for sure, but I never had to follow Brewer again after that other than maybe like a small spot at the Boston Comedy or Caroline's or something like that, but not when he was doing like a half an hour. | ||
| He was the middle and I was a headliner. | ||
| I wasn't supposed to be a fucking headliner. | ||
| You know Brewer's doing like, he's opened up for a while, he did Metallica. | ||
| Yeah, but Metallica, didn't they, I think Hatfield just checked into rehab. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| So they had to stop doing it. | ||
| Brewer's a monster. | ||
| Monster. | ||
| People forget. | ||
| But me taking Diaz on the road with me, first of all, I knew, like, I want to take guys on the road with me that can hang. | ||
| That we're fun. | ||
| We can talk shit. | ||
| We can have fun. | ||
| We can go to dinner and laugh. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Like, you go to dinner with Joey Diaz. | ||
| You've been to dinner with us. | ||
| It's the goddamn Joey Diaz show. | ||
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The best. | |
| We're just crying. | ||
| And he knows that we love him, and he knows we're giant fans. | ||
| He turns it on. | ||
| So he turns it on. | ||
| I gotta tell everybody, that's the funniest person that's ever walked the face of the earth. | ||
| He said things that I couldn't believe he fucking said in restaurants. | ||
| We're falling on the ground, pounding the carpet under the table. | ||
| Can't breathe. | ||
| Can't breathe. | ||
| And he's like... | ||
| The best. | ||
| The best. | ||
| He's a fucking animal. | ||
| But to have a guy like that... | ||
| And to go on a road with a guy like that, you also have to be sharp. | ||
| Like, you have to pick your game up. | ||
| I mean, it's basically you're sparring with the best of the best. | ||
| You can't slack off. | ||
| No. | ||
| You just can't. | ||
| There's none of that. | ||
| You can't do that. | ||
| You have to be ready. | ||
| And you have to enjoy it. | ||
| So what I learned to do, instead of being scared to go on after him, which I definitely was a couple of times, Particularly that one time in Jersey. | ||
| I remember I did okay. | ||
| I did good. | ||
| Like, I didn't bomb. | ||
| But there was moments where it was rough. | ||
| It was today I'd want to kill myself. | ||
| But back then I wasn't that good anyway, you know what I mean? | ||
| I could barely get through it anyway. | ||
| But I remember it was like, whoa. | ||
| There was like ten whole minutes where I was struggling before I picked it up. | ||
| It was bombing. | ||
| It wasn't the worst kind of bombing where they don't clap when you leave. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But... | ||
| I've had that, man. | ||
| That's rough. | ||
| Thank you, goodnight. | ||
| There's nothing. | ||
| They're like, fuck you. | ||
| You're like, whoa, sorry. | ||
| Sorry, I didn't mean to bomb like that. | ||
| But I definitely wasn't as funny as him. | ||
| I wasn't expecting to do this, fellas. | ||
| But then we all started hanging out together, right? | ||
| And then it was like Ari and Red Band and Duncan. | ||
| And we all supported each other. | ||
| And we all started just spreading this idea. | ||
| We're all friends. | ||
| Just because we're all doing the same job, we're not in competition with each other. | ||
| We're supposed to be the opposite. | ||
| We're supposed to be in support of each other. | ||
| And then if you do that, then we can bring other people along too. | ||
| And instead of it being a network like NBC or ABC or CBS or whatever, these people you don't know. | ||
| And their job is just to find people that they can sell on television. | ||
| They're trying to find... | ||
| They're trying to find a product, whether it's The Tonight Show or it's Friends or whatever the show is. | ||
| They're trying to figure out how something could go in there and everybody feels like they're competing for that. | ||
| Well, I'm like, well, we're in the opposite situation now. | ||
| Now, the more people, the better. | ||
| So it's not like you and I are both competing for some fucking roll-on cheers. | ||
| It's not what it is. | ||
| Now it's the more the better. | ||
| Like the more, if you know funny people and then they go, oh, Brendan says that guy's funny. | ||
| He must be funny. | ||
| He knows funny. | ||
| And then they watch that guy and then it's a real network. | ||
| So then it's a network of friends. | ||
| So it's a different kind of network. | ||
| There's no contracts. | ||
| But everybody knows if Theo Vaughn tells you somebody's funny, that guy's got to be funny because Theo Vaughn is funny as fuck. | ||
| So it's this like nice little thing where everybody's kind of helping everybody. | ||
| And then when you go there... | ||
| Now, it's like a feeling of family. | ||
| Like every time we go to the store, it's all hugs. | ||
| Everybody's hugging. | ||
| You know, it's all like, what's up? | ||
|
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What's up? | |
| It's all friendly. | ||
| It's all the weirdness, man. | ||
| And it helps people. | ||
| It helps people get over the hump. | ||
| Because sometimes what keeps someone from becoming a professional... | ||
| Is like you don't, you know, you don't have supportive friends and you don't put the extra effort into it because it doesn't feel good to be there because you're not doing well because you bomb too often. | ||
| That's a big one. | ||
| You need someone to like pull you aside when you're bombing and go, hey man, you gotta stop opening with that bit. | ||
| You make people uncomfortable. | ||
| But also go, I've been there too. | ||
| Yes, we've all been there. | ||
| Dude, anybody who tells you they haven't bombed is either a thief, either they've been stealing all their jokes, or they're just not telling the truth. | ||
| They're not a real comic. | ||
| It's hard. | ||
| It's fucking hard. | ||
| And you get humbled every time you come up with something new. | ||
| And every time you have to do a new special, and every time you have to put away the old jokes and write new ones, you're humbled. | ||
| You're eating shit all the time. | ||
| There's no way you're not going to. | ||
| If you're coming up with a new bit, there's going to be a time where you're going to say it where you've never said it before. | ||
| That's just a fact. | ||
| And it's never going to be that good when you're in that state. | ||
| It can be, yeah. | ||
| It's Bambi legs. | ||
| It's not like... | ||
| It's all Bambi on ice. | ||
| It's so embarrassing. | ||
| Trying to fucking... | ||
| It's so embarrassing. | ||
| And you're forcing it. | ||
| It's clunky. | ||
| That's the game, though. | ||
| That's what we do. | ||
| And the more we do it together, the more we help each other, the more it makes people want to come see it, too. | ||
| So it's like the store's never been more packed. | ||
| Never. | ||
| Never been more packed. | ||
| It's sold out every night. | ||
| Every night. | ||
| And everybody's got a good vibe. | ||
| It's nice. | ||
| Everybody you see there. | ||
| Everybody's happy to see everybody. | ||
| Whether it's Delia or Rick Ingram. | ||
|
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There's no darkness. | |
| There's no darkness. | ||
| Everybody's happy. | ||
| It's nice people. | ||
| I think it's because of you, man. | ||
| I think you've started that. | ||
| I'm happy to help. | ||
| I'm happy to help. | ||
| But I'm just trying to promote the thing that we all want. | ||
| We all want it. | ||
| It's not like you're trying to show people something they don't want. | ||
| Everybody wants family. | ||
| Everybody wants brotherhood and sisterhood. | ||
| Everybody wants a nice community. | ||
| Everybody wants to feel good. | ||
| But some people think... | ||
| Everybody has imposter syndrome too, man. | ||
| When you meet famous people... | ||
| I had a phone call the other day with Johnny Depp. | ||
| You did? | ||
| Me and Johnny Depp are talking on the phone. | ||
| And I'm like, what is going on in my fucking life? | ||
| I'm here having a phone call with Johnny Depp. | ||
| Do you want to come on the podcast? | ||
| Oh, I don't know. | ||
| I just want to talk to him. | ||
| It was just a cool conversation. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Good guy? | ||
| Oh, he's a very nice guy. | ||
|
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I'm a fan. | |
| I'm a big fan. | ||
| Me too, I love Johnny Depp. | ||
| He's a sweetheart of a guy, too. | ||
| Phenomenal. | ||
| But it's like, talking to him on the phone, I'm like, what is this life? | ||
| I bet even Johnny Depp feels like he's full of shit. | ||
| Everybody feels full of shit. | ||
| We all feel like a fraud. | ||
| Everybody's a fraud. | ||
| Someone's gonna pull the curtain up. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Ah, fuck! | ||
| And when everybody said, like, you suck, you're a fraud. | ||
| Like, yeah, you're right. | ||
| Everyone's a fraud. | ||
| Yeah, cool, man. | ||
| Everyone! | ||
| I guarantee you Daniel Day-Lewis probably feels like a fraud sometimes. | ||
| It's imposter syndrome. | ||
| Everyone gets it. | ||
| But, so, talking to Johnny Depp, you're like, what the fuck is happening? | ||
| I'm like, what is happening? | ||
| And before that was Kanye West. | ||
| Yeah, that was weird too. | ||
| To you that was an insane tune? | ||
| That was weird too. | ||
| It was real weird. | ||
| It's weird. | ||
| I met Paul McCartney once at the improv. | ||
| I was like, hello. | ||
| What in the fuck am I doing staring at you? | ||
| How are you a real thing? | ||
| How are you really Paul McCartney? | ||
|
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Crazy. | |
| I didn't even stick around to talk to him. | ||
| I just said hi and kept moving. | ||
| Hi! | ||
| He saw me just stand up too. | ||
| I was thinking about him while I was in there. | ||
| I hope he can handle it. | ||
| What if Paul McCartney gets really bummed out? | ||
| What if I did the Caitlyn Jenner thing and bummed out at me? | ||
| Have you ever talked to those guys and asked to come on the podcast and anyone said no? | ||
| Or you don't even push it? | ||
| Chappelle is an interesting one, because he and I have talked about it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No, Mike. | ||
| No. | ||
| Sorry. | ||
| Sorry, yeah. | ||
|
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No, fucking Rick Chappelle, motherfucker. | |
| His cousin. | ||
| Dave is, you know, Dave said, he's like, I'll do it sometimes, but I don't know, you know? | ||
| And I was like, dude, I hear you. | ||
| I don't do anybody else's. | ||
| I mean, I don't have any time. | ||
| No, why would you? | ||
| Yeah, I don't have any time. | ||
| And second of all, I get it, man. | ||
| You say enough with your comedy. | ||
| And it's like, Dave is a smart guy, man. | ||
| He figured it out. | ||
| He figured out where it was slipping away when they were fucking with him when he was doing the Chappelle show. | ||
| And he was like, you know what? | ||
| Let me just sit back for a bit. | ||
| Just sit back for a bit. | ||
| Do you know what he did? | ||
| You see what an artist, Dave Chappelle is? | ||
| He wasn't scheduling shows. | ||
| Instead, he would bring a speaker to the park. | ||
| Oh, I know. | ||
| In Seattle. | ||
| He'd set up a fucking speaker and do an impromptu stand-up show. | ||
| And everybody was like, what is going on? | ||
| And at the time, he could have filled up arenas, man. | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| I mean, still can, for sure. | ||
| You know, still can, still does. | ||
| The ones I did with him were phenomenal. | ||
| We had so much fun. | ||
| But he decided to take time off. | ||
| He decided. | ||
| That like, let me just sit back. | ||
| And you know this, especially at the level you're at, to step away is probably the hardest. | ||
| To say no is probably the hardest thing. | ||
| He's our biggest genius. | ||
| He's our biggest comedy genius. | ||
| And he might be one of the biggest comedy geniuses ever, but he's certainly our biggest comedy genius of today. | ||
| He understands comedy like nobody else does. | ||
| Did you hear what he said to Trevor Noah was on a show and they asked him about opening for Dave Chappelle because Chappelle brought him on a bunch of dates. | ||
| And Trevor Noah was like, he was saying, he goes, I mean, I'm fairly good at stand-up. | ||
| I'm not the best, but, you know, I've been to stand-up a while now. | ||
| And he goes, I'm in the green room with Dave Chappelle. | ||
| And he goes, and I'm thinking, why the fuck would he have me open for him? | ||
| Like, he has all these guys, like, great comics. | ||
| Why do you have me? | ||
| So he said that to him. | ||
| He goes, hey, Dave, I gotta know, man. | ||
| Why the fuck do you have me at your shows? | ||
| Wait, I'm open for you. | ||
| He goes, you know a million better comics. | ||
| And he goes, I can find any funny. | ||
| There's a ton of funny people. | ||
| There's a ton of funny comics. | ||
| He goes, but you're funny and interesting. | ||
| So to your point, he's like, we can go to dinner like you're an interesting person. | ||
| And people care about interesting people. | ||
| So there's guys I can bring out who are going to murder, but they're not interesting. | ||
| People don't care. | ||
| You can murder and you're interesting. | ||
| That's why you're here. | ||
| I'd like to talk to Dave, see if that was an accurate quote. | ||
| Dave must be like, what? | ||
| Yeah, no, he's like, I didn't say that. | ||
| I told him he was funny. | ||
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What the fuck? | |
| I told him he was cool, man. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| I told him he's here because he rolls a good joint. | ||
| And he's just, Trevor Noah just cares. | ||
| He said, I'm here because I'm really smug. | ||
| I'm a giant dick. | ||
| Stop lying, son! | ||
| Stop lying, son! | ||
| He started his podcast, right? | ||
|
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Yes, he did. | |
| Finally. | ||
| I tried to talk him into it for literally a year. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah, I think I started talking to him about it last February or something like that. | ||
| February or March. | ||
| When did he do the podcast the first time? | ||
| You taught him to do a podcast? | ||
| From then on, I'm like, what are you doing, man? | ||
| You were born for this. | ||
| He's so funny. | ||
| He's born for this. | ||
| About anything, he could ramble. | ||
| He can just ramble. | ||
| February? | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So, almost, you know, like, whatever that is. | ||
| 10 months. | ||
| So, 10, 11 months ago. | ||
| He got it going. | ||
| And finally he got it going. | ||
| So funny. | ||
| And he's doing it with Kate Quigley, which is perfect. | ||
| Oh, nice. | ||
| The dynamic? | ||
| Yeah, it's perfect. | ||
| And have someone to bounce off shit, you know? | ||
| Or you can Bill Bird or Dahlia and just speak into the mic. | ||
| That's a special thing. | ||
| Yes, he could do that and he has done that, but it's better to have Kate Quigley there. | ||
| First of all, Kate understands comedy. | ||
| She knows what he's doing. | ||
| She'll get out of the way if he goes on a rant. | ||
| It's perfect. | ||
| She'll bring people there herself, so she'll bring people to the podcast as well. | ||
| It'll help. | ||
| You know who else started a podcast and finally is Whitney Cummings. | ||
| I know! | ||
| She's killing it too. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| She should have been doing it a long time ago. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| She's another one. | ||
| She would do other people's podcasts. | ||
| I know. | ||
| She would prepare. | ||
| She's one of the rare people who would prepare for podcasts. | ||
| Notes and shit. | ||
| She would come in with notes and shit to talk about. | ||
| She's so smart. | ||
| She's one of the most ambitious people I've ever met in an interesting way. | ||
| Not ambitious like wants to be famous. | ||
| No. | ||
| But wants to complete projects. | ||
| She's always like, well, I'm in the middle of directing this documentary on violence. | ||
| She has so much going on. | ||
|
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I know. | |
| Like, what are you talking about? | ||
|
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Why are you directing documentaries? | |
| Dude, our neighborhood is Whitney, Tom Segura. | ||
| Like, it's all of us right there, man. | ||
| It's a vortex, bro. | ||
| It's a vortex. | ||
| You see Tom Segura's dance video? | ||
| Yes, it's fantastic. | ||
| Bro. | ||
| The animal stabs Bert. | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| And he said the director wanted him to stab him, take a gun, and keep shooting him. | ||
| Oh my God. | ||
| And Tom was like, all right, I'm down. | ||
| But I guess it was too long. | ||
| So he's like, we cut that out. | ||
| Just me stabbing you. | ||
| Yeah, the stabbing thing is the way to go. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But it's dancing. | ||
| I mean, dude can dance. | ||
| He can dance! | ||
| You know he's starting to do comedy shows in Spanish? | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| How crazy is that? | ||
| I think he said he's gonna do a special. | ||
| In Spanish? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Oh my god. | ||
| I don't know if it's gonna be a full hour. | ||
| He just did a special in Austin. | ||
| Or maybe he's getting ready for Netflix. | ||
| No, he just filmed it. | ||
| But that one's not in Spanish, right? | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| That's regular. | ||
| But he's... | ||
| Regular. | ||
| Yeah, that was the other thing I was thinking about, this cowboy versus Conner fight. | ||
| That's the most Irish guy versus the most American guy. | ||
| It's Bud Light versus proper whiskey. | ||
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Bud! | |
| Actual Bud. | ||
| Not Budweiser. | ||
| How dare you. | ||
| Oh, is it Budweiser? | ||
| He's not trash. | ||
| Is it Bud Light? | ||
| I thought Bud Light was his shit. | ||
| No, it's Budweiser! | ||
| Is it Budweiser? | ||
| No, he's a Budweiser guy. | ||
| That thick bear, bro. | ||
| The real shit. | ||
| The real shit. | ||
| Fuck your light, bro, dude. | ||
| There's nothing wrong with Bud Light if you're, like, eating clams or something. | ||
| You want something cold. | ||
| Budweiser's real beer. | ||
| Dude, it's Budweiser vs. | ||
| proper whiskey. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| And I like my Budweiser in a can. | ||
| I like to know I'm a piece of shit. | ||
| Fuck yeah, me too. | ||
|
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Don't put in a fancy glass. | |
| Is Conor reaching for his whiskey while Cowboys reaching for his Budweiser? | ||
| I mean, I guess, I wish they would have done it in like Dublin or something, like a giant stadium in Dublin. | ||
| Where are they doing it? | ||
| Vegas? | ||
| Vegas. | ||
| Well, they probably had an agreement with Vegas anyway. | ||
| See, I think the thing about Vegas is like, there's the most people that can come, it's easy to get to, there's the most amount of hotels. | ||
| You're gonna make the most money. | ||
| Yeah, it's... | ||
| Look, it's going to be fucking great. | ||
| Whether you're watching it on TV or watching it live, it's going to be fucking great. | ||
| I can't wait. | ||
| And if Conor can catch him early, it can be very interesting. | ||
| It's literally a sprint versus a marathon, because Cowboys stick around. | ||
| Five rounds for Conor at welterweight, it scares me, man. | ||
| If Cowboy can use his distance, and he's very good at doing it, and he can avoid that straight left... | ||
| You know, because Connor's got a piston of a left hand, man. | ||
| I think Connor's better with his hands, but Cowboy's better with his feet. | ||
| And also, the one thing everyone's forgetting is Cowboy can fucking wrestle, man. | ||
| Any phenomenal submission. | ||
| So if he wants to pull that out at some point of the fight, he can definitely do it. | ||
| I don't think he's going to. | ||
| The Mike Perry fight opened a lot of eyes. | ||
| The Mike Perry fight opened a lot of eyes. | ||
| Because Mike Perry's a gorilla. | ||
| That guy is fucking strong as shit. | ||
| And when Cowboy armbarred him... | ||
| You know, Mike Perry sent him a picture of x-rays of a broken arm that wasn't really his arm. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| This is what he did to my arm. | ||
| Oh, hell no. | ||
| And Cowboy's like, what? | ||
| He's like, really? | ||
| He didn't even really break his arm. | ||
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Oh, wow. | |
| That's hilarious. | ||
| And I said, what's that about him? | ||
| He was just a strange guy. | ||
| He sent him a fake broken arm in the x-ray and his arm wasn't broken. | ||
| Hey, didn't Mike Perry do like 21 and mean. | ||
| There's like 0.01% of black and he just started dropping the n-bombs. | ||
| Like, interviews just out of nowhere. | ||
| Everyone's like, what the fuck is happening? | ||
| Mike Perry's a wild dude. | ||
| He's hilarious is what he is. | ||
| What does it say? | ||
| Platinum tattooed on his eyebrow? | ||
| Is it platinum? | ||
| Yeah, I don't know. | ||
|
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He's hilarious. | |
| He's a wild motherfucker, man. | ||
| He's fun to watch. | ||
| He has a fight coming up. | ||
| Yeah, who's he fighting? | ||
| He's fighting someone good, right? | ||
| Jeff Neal? | ||
| Is he fighting Jeff Neal? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Ooh, that's a good fight. | ||
| Jeff Neal. | ||
| Dude, you know who we leave out when we're talking about welterweight and it's so fucked up? | ||
| Leon Edwards. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| He's won eight in a row. | ||
| Well, how about Masvidal fucking sucker punches him and he cuts his face and they're in the middle of this whole thing after he knocks out Till. | ||
| I know. | ||
| And he's in the heat of this, but it gets no traction. | ||
| Everyone's like, yeah, whatever. | ||
| They actually got in the fight. | ||
| Straight fight, yeah. | ||
| And everyone's like, yeah, but Leon, nobody knows you. | ||
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I'm sorry. | |
| I know. | ||
| But he's a monster. | ||
| Well, he beat Cowboy by decision, but Cowboy was sick going into that fight. | ||
| Not to say that Leon couldn't have won anyway. | ||
| But there's a guy who never pulls out of a fight. | ||
| When was the last time you heard Cowboy pull out of a fight? | ||
| Oh, never. | ||
| He would have to be on death's door. | ||
| Again, he's been a yes man for the UFC. He's gone through so much shit. | ||
| Cutting weight on three days notice and fighting this guy and losing. | ||
| But it's not necessarily even that he's a yes man. | ||
| He's just down to fight. | ||
| But sometimes it's not for the best of his career. | ||
| Like when he fought Masvidal in Denver's hometown after the Mike Brown fight, we were like, dude, you suffered a lot of damage. | ||
| Like, dude, fight in your hometown, whatever, four weeks later. | ||
| He's like, yeah, all right. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| I'm going to be honest with you. | ||
| To get to the title, that doesn't make a lot of sense. | ||
| I'm positive that Dana's actually told him that too at certain points. | ||
| I'm not blaming Dana. | ||
| I think that he wanted fights where Dana was like, look, just slow down. | ||
| I'm sure. | ||
| He's just wild, man. | ||
| He's a wild dude, but it's paid off. | ||
| Usually it doesn't pay off. | ||
| It's paid off. | ||
| He got his golden goose. | ||
| Well, he's in an interesting stage where he's doing a lot of fights, so he's really comfortable fighting, right? | ||
| He's fighting very regularly. | ||
| And he also... | ||
| At that age where his brain and his knowledge of fighting, his fight IQ, is at its highest while his body's still hanging in there. | ||
| Hanging in there, though. | ||
| But there's a fine line where it's, let's say he got knocked out by Gaethje, right? | ||
|
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Yes. | |
| So let's say Conor knocks out, then it's like, all right, what are we doing? | ||
| Exactly, because he's like 36 now. | ||
| How old is Connor? | ||
| 36 to 37? | ||
| So this is the area, right? | ||
| From 36 to 40 is where you see some guys, Bernard Hopkins it, and they just fucking eat nothing but grilled chicken with perfectly cooked vegetables. | ||
| God, that's the exception, isn't it? | ||
| The most except. | ||
| He's the most odd exception because Bernard Hopkins was elite as a boxer with no drugs, no nothing. | ||
| But also, Bernard Hopkins' IQ was higher than anybody. | ||
| Off the charts. | ||
| So he could fight defensive. | ||
| MMA really can't get away with that. | ||
| He also could control the pace, where he could dictate how fast you guys fought. | ||
| So nobody could just put a pace on him. | ||
| MMA's not like that? | ||
| No. | ||
| It's a different animal. | ||
| It's a completely different animal. | ||
| And the only guys that really made it successfully deep into their 40s were not on the match. | ||
| No. | ||
| It'd be tough to do these days. | ||
| Yeah, it's tough. | ||
| It's tough. | ||
|
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It's tough. | |
| And, you know, the early days of fighting, man, you've got to realize, like... | ||
| The early days, everything has to have an asterisk. | ||
| Everything. | ||
| Every fight. | ||
| Kind of, as the Wild West was like, everyone did it, you know? | ||
| So it was kind of a level playing field. | ||
| Speaking of which, you see Vitor getting ready for one FC? Hell yeah, he's back, baby! | ||
| He's back, baby! | ||
| He's back, baby! | ||
| Come get some. | ||
| He's throwing fast combinations, looking juicy. | ||
| Juicy, juicy. | ||
| I love that Vitor. | ||
| What weight is he fighting at? | ||
| Is he fighting at 205? | ||
| 205, right? | ||
| Does it say? | ||
| Oh boy, he's thick. | ||
| Dude, he's big. | ||
| In a good way. | ||
| How many more years do you think he can have under those looser guidelines? | ||
| I think he does it for three more years. | ||
| They won't even let you sign in the country to watch. | ||
|
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No. | |
| Get out. | ||
| But we don't even do it. | ||
| Out. | ||
| But we don't have anything to do with it. | ||
| Out! | ||
| Out! | ||
| No Singapore! | ||
| Out! | ||
| Out! | ||
| That's right. | ||
| He's won championship, huh? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Dude. | ||
| I mean, of course he is. | ||
| Come on, son. | ||
| Just has that dime piece wife. | ||
| They're helping him. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Why wouldn't you? | ||
| Chachri's giving him his own piss. | ||
| He's like, take my piss. | ||
| This stuff's perfect. | ||
| I'm eating whole foods. | ||
| Going to yoga class. | ||
| Yeah, they're killing it. | ||
| Sage is going to fight again, too. | ||
| He's going to drop down to 55. So here he is. | ||
| Get ready. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Dude. | ||
| I mean, he's thick! | ||
| And he doesn't have to cut weight. | ||
| So that's where it gets interesting. | ||
| Because, you know, you gotta realize that Vitor has been fighting in the UFC at 185 pounds for, you know, all the big fights, right? | ||
| The fight with Anderson that he lost, and then the Anderson fight... | ||
| You know, he was a little smooth in that fight. | ||
| He didn't look like the Vitor that fought Rockhold or the Vitor that fought Michael Bisping or Henderson. | ||
| That was the thick Vitor. | ||
| So we're dealing with a different animal. | ||
| What poor soul is going to fight Vitor and the Jews? | ||
| Hey, man. | ||
| I mean, is it enough at this age? | ||
| You know, is it enough? | ||
| You know, I mean, they've got some straight-up murderers over in 1FC. They do, man. | ||
| They do. | ||
| That fucking guy who knocked out Eddie Alvarez? | ||
| What's his name? | ||
| Saryukin? | ||
| Saryukin? | ||
| How about the guy who beat Brandon Vero, man? | ||
| Like, they have some killers we just don't know about them. | ||
| No, that's not Saryukin. | ||
| What is his name? | ||
| Oh, Nastyukin. | ||
| That's his name. | ||
| I think it's Timothy Nastyukin. | ||
| This fucking Russian savage. | ||
| Mighty Mouse been doing work over there. | ||
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He has. | |
| But also, UFC, you know, not to throw Ben Askin on the bus, but UFC went, one championship, that's your best, come on over. | ||
| Yeah, but I think it paid off for the UFC because you wouldn't have Masvidal's superstardom without what happened with Ben Askren. | ||
| I think Ben, you know, it worked for both, one championship and UFC. It worked out. | ||
| Yeah, for sure. | ||
| And it worked for Ben, too, because he made a lot of money over in one UFC. But I think that if Ben had left Bellator and gone straight to the UFC, things would have been very interesting. | ||
| Very interesting. | ||
| You and I went hard in the paint for Ben. | ||
| We got starched. | ||
| He got starched. | ||
| It was a tough go. | ||
| Starched and then strangled. | ||
| Hey, it's a tough world out there. | ||
| And we found out also that he needs a fucking hip replacement. | ||
| He legitimately does. | ||
| I connected him with Dr. Reardon. | ||
| Oh, good. | ||
| I love Ben. | ||
| I love Ben. | ||
| But also, people dogging on stuff like this. | ||
| Like, dude, what about the guy who was retired, had everything going for him, where he's living, has the wrestling camp, was like, Yeah, alright, I'll fight the best of the best in UFC. Yeah, right away. | ||
| Just for him to do that, you have to tip your hat to the guy. | ||
| It's fucking insane. | ||
| And super nice guy. | ||
| Very smart guy, too. | ||
| Really well-educated. | ||
| Again, all the shit talk, that's all in the act. | ||
| Ben's a great dude. | ||
| Smart, smart guy. | ||
| Why wasn't the best idea to do that to Miles Vidal, though? | ||
| What'd you say? | ||
| Talking shit to Masvidal. | ||
| But that's his game. | ||
| Because you're not going to tune in to just a pure wrestler. | ||
| But there's some guys... | ||
| Masvidal's like, what? | ||
| There's some guys you do not want to make mad. | ||
| Dude, how about Masvidal... | ||
| I'm sorry, how about Ben Askin vs. | ||
| Damian Maia? | ||
| The striking? | ||
| I was like, what the fuck is happening right now? | ||
| Go to the ground, you two, right now! | ||
| Yeah, what is this? | ||
| I'd rather watch Logan Paul and KSI. Why is this happening? | ||
| Well, you gotta remember, Damien Maia beat Masvidal. | ||
| One of the last fights that Masvidal lost was Damien Maia. | ||
| No, I thought he beat Damien Maia. | ||
| No, he beat Damien Maia. | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| Damien had his back, remember? | ||
| And they restarted him? | ||
| I think Damien Maia won that decision. | ||
| I'm pretty sure. | ||
| I think he lost to Wonderboy Thompson, and I think he lost to Damien Maia. | ||
| No, he beat Damien Maia. | ||
| Did he? | ||
| You're right? | ||
| I think. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Masvidal. | ||
| Masvidal. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Yeah, Masvidal, Damien Maia. | ||
| I thought... | ||
| Losing my mind. | ||
| I'm trying to remember. | ||
| I thought Masvidal won. | ||
| I feel like Damian Maia won a decision. | ||
| Damian Maia won? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Shout out to your brain. | ||
| And I remember he lost a really close one to Wonderboy. | ||
| Real close. | ||
| But what's interesting about the Masvidal Damian Maia fight is that Maia had his back and couldn't submit him. | ||
| True. | ||
| Which is insane. | ||
| Well, you know, where Maia got fucked more than any other time in his entire career is when he had Kamaru Usman's back. | ||
| That was ridiculous. | ||
| Oh, so ugly. | ||
| To this day, I'll be driving in my fucking car. | ||
| Jorge Masvidal said Damian Maia lost burns like a fucking STD. Hilarious. | ||
| Hilarious. | ||
| Sometimes I'll be driving, no bullshit, I'll be driving down the road and I think of Damian Maia having Kamaru Usman's back and the referee stepping in and I go like this, FUCK! Just driving out of nowhere. | ||
| If someone saw me driving, they would think that I have some personal thing I'm dealing with or your money or something. | ||
| I'm just driving down the road thinking about that ref pulling Damian Maia off Usman's back and I just go, fuck! | ||
| That was insane. | ||
| It was so dumb. | ||
| Insane. | ||
| It's like he got to the spot. | ||
| That's the spot. | ||
| Next thing you know, who knows what happened? | ||
| Not only is that the spot, but it's his spot. | ||
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It's his spot. | |
| He's the best in the world on your back. | ||
| The best. | ||
| And it's early. | ||
| We're in the first round. | ||
| He's not even slippery yet. | ||
| You called the Damian Maia-Askeren fight to a tee. | ||
| I knew that was gonna happen. | ||
| And we talked before, you're like, no, no, no. | ||
| Damian Maia's gonna strangle. | ||
| Damian Maia's world class on the ground. | ||
| And Ben eventually wants to go to the ground. | ||
| What does he want to do? | ||
| Have a kickboxing fight? | ||
| There's gonna be moments where he wants to go to the ground. | ||
| Okay, now if you look at when... | ||
| And this is obviously different because it's just MMA. I mean, it's just grappling, not MMA. But he rolled with Marcelo Garcia. | ||
| And if you watch Marcelo Garcia strangle Ben Askren over and over and over again, you realize... | ||
| There's levels to everything. | ||
| If they were just in a wrestling match, yeah, Ben Askren could probably beat him. | ||
| But this is not a wrestling match. | ||
| This is MMA with strangles. | ||
| And Damian Maia's going to get his back. | ||
| That's what I was thinking. | ||
| I was like, he's going to get his back. | ||
| But also, it is pretty similar to straight jiu-jitsu because Ben or Damian aren't really ground-pounters. | ||
| They're not ground-pounding. | ||
| They're literally vying for a position to grapple. | ||
| So Ben's going to entertain the grappling with Damian Maia. | ||
| He's going to slip up. | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| He's going to slip up. | ||
| And that's what I felt like. | ||
| He wasn't going to be able to, as Hicks and Gracie would say, couldn't keep the rhythm. | ||
| Dude, the transitions were foaming at them. | ||
| I could not get enough of it. | ||
| When they were standing, I'm like, you two fucking drop down right now. | ||
| Yeah, stop it. | ||
| God damn it. | ||
| The only thing that made sense to me is maybe Damian Maia thought that Ben Askren's chin would be soft because he was so brutally KO'd just four months ago. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| Because that has happened to guys. | ||
| You remember when Travis Luter... | ||
| Who did he fucking knock out cold with one punch? | ||
| That same dude who Vitor Belfort cut a giant hole above his head. | ||
| He was a super jacked, really powerful black dude. | ||
| God damn it. | ||
| I can't remember his name. | ||
| Pull up Travis Luter. | ||
| Not Eastman. | ||
| Marvin Eastman. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Marvin Eastman fought Travis Luter and Travis Luter caught Marvin Eastman with a punch at the very end of the punch. | ||
| It was one of the weirder knockouts that you'll ever see. | ||
| Go back right here. | ||
| Watch this. | ||
| Oh, very end of the punch. | ||
| Very end of the punch. | ||
| It's strange. | ||
| But Marvin Eastman had been KO'd. | ||
| The word was he got KO'd twice in camp with Tito. | ||
| Oh, wow. | ||
| He got hit with a knee during takedown defense, got KO'd, and he got hit with something else. | ||
| That was the word. | ||
| I don't know if that's true. | ||
| If it's wrong, forgive me. | ||
| But it's not that Travis Luter couldn't punch. | ||
| He certainly could, but that one didn't make sense. | ||
| No, not like that. | ||
| He touched him, and he just went out. | ||
| So sometimes guys who've been KO'd recently, you know how it is, they just can't It just doesn't work anymore. | ||
| Maybe, I think Damian Maia maybe thought that Van Askren couldn't take a shot. | ||
| That's scary when that happens in training camp, because then you're like, fuck! | ||
| And you know the fight's like two or three weeks away, and you know you're not going to be healed, so you go into the fight. | ||
| Knowing you're vulnerable. | ||
| That happened before I fought Rothwell. | ||
| He ended up knocking me out. | ||
| But before that, a week before my last sparring session, Shane Carwin knocked me literally cold. | ||
| It's like, oh, we're a week away. | ||
| And then your coach's like, ah, be alright, man. | ||
| You shake it off. | ||
| But in hindsight, I'm like, why would you guys let me fight, dude? | ||
| Why would you let me fight that? | ||
| Well, also, why is Shane Carwin trying to knock you out? | ||
| Dude. | ||
| Yeah, it was a savage. | ||
| That dude hit so hard. | ||
| I'm like, what the fuck were we thinking? | ||
| He hit so hard. | ||
| That dude hit so hard. | ||
| He's a guy who didn't get his day in the sun either. | ||
| He had that loss to Lesnar where he came out and fucked Lesnar up in that first round, but then he just gassed out. | ||
| He just lost all his juice. | ||
| He put up so much energy trying to stop Lesnar. | ||
| So much muscle. | ||
| They could have stopped that fight too. | ||
| They easily could have stopped that fight. | ||
| Shout out to Herb Dean. | ||
| And they were both champions. | ||
| He was the interim champ. | ||
| Lesnar was the champ champ. | ||
| He beat Frank Mir. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He crushed Frank Mir with a ruthless series of uppercuts. | ||
| Remember he held him with one arm and blasted him with the other? | ||
| I was in his corner. | ||
| Fuck, dude. | ||
| Fuck, dude. | ||
| That was terrifying. | ||
| That was what Shane Carr when he was at his peak. | ||
| He was starching people. | ||
| And remember before that, he starched Gabriel Gonzaga. | ||
| One punch. | ||
| After he had a broken nose. | ||
| Gonzaga broke his nose and took him down. | ||
| Gonzaga fucked his nose up. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Shane popped up and went, cool story. | ||
| And Shane hit him with a six-inch right hand. | ||
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Cool story. | |
| It went like this. | ||
| Bink! | ||
| Shut the lights out. | ||
| And then how about Gonzaga and Bigfoot Silva? | ||
| Bare Knuckle. | ||
| That's how they're doing, sir. | ||
| They found a Bare Knuckle and Gonzaga piece Big Silva. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's hard to watch. | ||
| Not good. | ||
| Bigfoot Silva was a guy that when they made him get off the test, remember that? | ||
| That was the rudest thing ever. | ||
| The rudest thing? | ||
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Also, don't fight if you have to have that stuff. | |
| He needed the money. | ||
| He needed the money. | ||
| No, I'm saying like, remember him on TRT? He was such a nightmare. | ||
| He crushed Fedor. | ||
| Huge dude. | ||
| He crushed Fedor. | ||
| Remember that? | ||
| Remember when Fedor went for an ankle lock on him? | ||
| His giant foot. | ||
| And Fedor's like hugging on his big toe and he's going like this. | ||
| I'm like, oh, you fucked up, Fedor. | ||
| You fucked up. | ||
| You let a guy get on everything. | ||
| You're literally fighting a giant. | ||
| Also the nicest guy in the world. | ||
| Super nice guy. | ||
| How about I strain with him? | ||
| He had a real reason to take tests. | ||
| When you take him off of it, he had an operation on his pituitary gland. | ||
| He had a tumor. | ||
| He had a tumor that was literally producing too much growth hormone. | ||
| That's why you become a giant like that. | ||
| So then he has this tumor removed, and now his body's not producing anything. | ||
| I know. | ||
| So he has to take stuff. | ||
| But they say he can't take stuff. | ||
| So he's just sick all the time. | ||
| I remember his fight against Mark Hunt when he was on TRT, and they just went back and forth. | ||
| Oh, that's right. | ||
| It was like the greatest heavyweight fight of all time. | ||
| And then afterwards, he couldn't take a shot. | ||
| He tested hot. | ||
| Yeah, he tested hot. | ||
| Dude, how about I train with Bigfoot to get ready for Big Nog, and I didn't know they were best friends, and I'm training with him. | ||
| I'm like, this guy's great. | ||
| Next day, I'm like, where the fuck is Bigfoot? | ||
| I see a picture of him on Instagram with Big Nog. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| So he went to test you out? | ||
| I just think he came in and I know he was training there and I don't think it was any bad intention. | ||
| I think he was like, alright, yeah, if you want to train, go ahead. | ||
| Dude, when he got on top of Fedor, when he mounted Fedor, I was like, holy fuck. | ||
| That picture of just a giant on top of this kind of fat Russian and just fucking... | ||
| Dude, he was a building. | ||
| He was like a building planted on his chest. | ||
| Like, you're not shaking that off. | ||
| He's 300 pounds. | ||
| Remember when DC fought him? | ||
| And I go, dude, you fucked him up. | ||
| He goes, how can you miss? | ||
| How can you miss? | ||
| He goes, that's the easiest fight in the world. | ||
| How do you miss? | ||
| I threw a one-two. | ||
| They both landed. | ||
| His head was this wide. | ||
| It's all in when you catch a guy, too. | ||
| Like, where you catch him in his career and all in, like, what kind of testing are we talking about? | ||
| That's the reality of, like, MMA pre-USADA is all when you catch him and what kind of testing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, speaking of testing, how about your boy Overeem fight Saturday? | ||
| And he's fighting a fucking... | ||
| Rosenstreich. | ||
| Is it Stroik or Stroke? | ||
| Stroik. | ||
| Stroik. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's a banshee. | ||
| Yeah, he's a beast. | ||
| He KO'd... | ||
| Andrzej Olowski. | ||
| Andrzej Olowski with a left hook. | ||
| Fadeaway left hook. | ||
| In his last fight, one punch. | ||
| Serious power. | ||
| Really nice guy, too. | ||
| Is he nice? | ||
| Real nice. | ||
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| Jarzino. | ||
| Jarzino. | ||
| Rosenstreich. | ||
| God, look at him. | ||
| I would have to go to John Anik to see if I'm saying it right, but I'm pretty sure it's Rosenstreich. | ||
| Rosenstreich. | ||
| 6'4", 240. Very interesting guy. | ||
| Perfect size. | ||
| He's one of those guys where you look at the... | ||
| Oh, they're doing a leg reach thing now. | ||
| He's one of those guys, when you get a guy who's, you know, I think he's 9-0? | ||
| Is that what it says? | ||
| 9-0, yeah. | ||
| I mean, you don't know. | ||
| We don't know, but this is a good test. | ||
| KO ratio, 88%. | ||
| Fuck, man. | ||
| And he's a legit 260-plus. | ||
| You know, he's a legit giant dude. | ||
| You're fucking crazy if you don't think Rosenstruck and Francis are going to face off. | ||
| What I want to see, honestly, I want to see Francis fight in boxing. | ||
| I really do. | ||
| How dare you. | ||
| I really do. | ||
| I really do. | ||
| Against a guy like Wilder? | ||
| Well, not right away. | ||
| I don't think that would be smart. | ||
| No. | ||
| I think he'd have a few boxing fights. | ||
| But I think Francis could put people on the moon. | ||
| That's a fact. | ||
| You get some dude who's not going to take him down. | ||
| They're just going to stand in front of him. | ||
| He's 280 plus pounds right now. | ||
| Shredded African muscle. | ||
| Dude, he's such a specimen. | ||
| He's such a freak. | ||
| And, I mean, he's got a story that is literally right out of a movie. | ||
| He was a child working in the fucking sand mines. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Digging sand. | ||
| That is core, that is shoulders, that is legs, that is back. | ||
| That kind of strength training as a young person doing that every day, that farmer strength shit, that's for real, man. | ||
| For real. | ||
| For real. | ||
| You go against a farmer, you know what's up, dude. | ||
| That's exactly what he's got. | ||
| Sand shoveling strength might top farmer strength because farmers aren't always doing that. | ||
| Sand shovelers are doing it all day long. | ||
| Blood diamonds. | ||
| Dude. | ||
| I can take it, too, man. | ||
| I love Francis, man. | ||
| Here's what it's about Francis, too, is obviously he had his loss, right? | ||
| Lost to Stipe, and then the Derrick Lewis, whatever, that fight was whatever. | ||
| I want to erase it from my memory. | ||
| So he loses to Stipe. | ||
| He gets catapulted into the limelight. | ||
| He's pretty cocky, thinks he's going to starch Stipe. | ||
| But then he learns from his losses, and you look where he's at now, you're like, oh shit, this guy's gonna be champion. | ||
| Similar thing happened with Darren Till, man. | ||
| I went to see, I saw the Junior Dos Santos fight in a pool hall. | ||
| I was with some guys, and we were playing pole, and we stopped, and I said, this one won't last. | ||
| This is not going to last. | ||
| Junior is a great fighter, but his style is the wrong style to stand in front of that fucking guy. | ||
| He also has some Brazilian miles on him. | ||
| He's a shell of what he used to be, let's be real. | ||
| Francis is just on this tear right now, but sometimes there's losses that happen for guys where you're like, oh man, they needed those huge bumps in their career where it's going to pay off in the end. | ||
| I think it's happened with Francis, it's happened with Darren Till now as well. | ||
| I don't know if Francis can immediately beat top-level boxers, but I know that if they put him against some guy who's like a journeyman who's going to stand in front of him. | ||
| Oh, he'll starch him. | ||
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100%. | |
| He'll starch guys, and he'll starch a bunch of those guys, and people will get super excited about him. | ||
| I agree if they want to do that, but you're talking about a different animal. | ||
| If you were to go in there like a Wilder or a Fury, which is almost ridiculous to say, but that's where we're at because Conor Diggins Floyd, or even Masvidal talking about, oh, I want to fight Canelo, and they ask Canelo, and Canelo goes, what the fuck? | ||
| What are you talking about? | ||
| But I think with Francis, if you put him in there with a guy like Wilder or Fury, they've seen big punchers before, man. | ||
| He's not going to touch him. | ||
| There's just a different level. | ||
| But he's also older, so I don't know. | ||
| Fury is a perfect example of a guy that's extremely hard to hit. | ||
| He's so light on his feet. | ||
| He pops that jab. | ||
| He's so well-schooled. | ||
| One of the things that I saw when I watched the fight again was how well he was slipping punches. | ||
| Masterclass in boxing. | ||
| He's so good. | ||
| He's by far the most skilled heavyweight we've seen in I don't know how long. | ||
| And 6'9". | ||
| Insane. | ||
| He's so tall. | ||
| He just pops that jab and moves light on his feet. | ||
| You worked with Till? | ||
| Yes, yes, I saw that. | ||
| Till was like, fuck, dude. | ||
| And he was like, I want a real workout. | ||
| Give me what you guys would do. | ||
| And Till said he was holding mitts and like, holy fuck, man. | ||
| Of course, man. | ||
| And now imagine him with four-ounce gloves, lighting your chin up. | ||
| He's just too fast. | ||
| But it's whether or not he would ever be able to stop like Stipe's takedown or DC's takedown or any real heavyweight wrestler's takedown. | ||
| The answer's no. | ||
| No. | ||
| They toy with him. | ||
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He'd get smashed. | |
| I don't know why everyone wants to cross-pollinate. | ||
| If they do cross-pollinate, I think the guy who can have the most success is Francis. | ||
| Because I really think that Francis, before he gets to the elite levels, he's going to starch a lot of people. | ||
| I don't know if he can punch as hard as Wilder. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Because Wilder's punch is crazy. | ||
| Insane. | ||
| But so is Francis's. | ||
| If Francis hits anyone with that left hook, I don't give a fuck if he's wearing one of those cartoon gloves that you get that weigh five pounds. | ||
| You know those ones you get at the carnival? | ||
| I know exactly what we're talking about. | ||
| If he hits you with one of those, you're fucked. | ||
| But here's the thing. | ||
| You know who ate his punches? | ||
| Stipe. | ||
| He did, but Stipe moved away and used his wrestling. | ||
| Stipe got fucking rocked. | ||
| When you go back and watch that fight, you're like, how can Stipe do this? | ||
| And he ragdolled him. | ||
| Amazing. | ||
| But how much different would that fight be if it was just a boxing match? | ||
| That's trouble. | ||
| If there was no takedowns at all and he could settle in. | ||
| He would have knocked him out. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| Maybe Stipe would have fought a different fight. | ||
| What do you think Stipe D.C.? The rematch. | ||
| Is that definitely going to happen? | ||
| They confirmed that. | ||
| I think Stipe is... | ||
| Am I fucking crazy? | ||
| Stipe's got an injury that he's dealing with. | ||
| Am I fucking crazy? | ||
| Is that not confirmed? | ||
| I don't think it's confirmed. | ||
| I don't think it's confirmed. | ||
| I think they both agreed to it, but it hasn't been confirmed. | ||
| It hasn't been signed. | ||
| Dude, wait till John goes, hold my fucking bear, and comes up the heavyweight. | ||
| I've seen what that man does to heavyweights in training. | ||
| Well, you know, the Johnny Walker thing was really interesting, right? | ||
| It was really interesting to see if Johnny Walker could make a big splash, but then people forgot how goddamn good Corey Anderson is. | ||
| They forgot. | ||
| The MMA guys don't care about your hype or your fucking dancing into the cage. | ||
| They don't give a fuck. | ||
| You knock a lot of guys out, they don't give a fuck. | ||
| How good are you right now, and do you have a solution to what Corey Anderson brings to the table? | ||
| He's a beast, man. | ||
| He's a beast. | ||
| He's a beast. | ||
| He's got an incredible work ethic. | ||
| He doesn't get fucking tired, and he gets better with every fight. | ||
| And people forget. | ||
| You forget he gets better. | ||
| But you gotta watch the Aliyah Latifi fight. | ||
| Shut that guy down. | ||
| Stops Johnny Walker. | ||
| He's beating top-level guys, man. | ||
| How about Latifi's Heavyweight now? | ||
| I know. | ||
| Isn't that crazy? | ||
| Stipe Miocic wants Tyson Fury's super fight more than Daniel Cormier trilogy. | ||
| Of course he does. | ||
| It's like a fucking billion dollars. | ||
| He's also mad a little bit because DC made him wait for his rematch, so he said, I'll make him wait too then. | ||
| Oh, well, he's probably talking shit. | ||
| Both of you fight to your nuts hang down to your ankles. | ||
| Just fucking make it happen, dude. | ||
| I don't know if that fight happens again. | ||
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You don't think so? | |
| I don't know if that fight happens again. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| We'll talk. | ||
| I'll tell you what I know. | ||
| Yeah, please do. | ||
| It's just I'm out of time before John goes, alright, I'm ready to go, and just fucks everybody up. | ||
| Well, DC, John, heavyweight, dear God, make it happen. | ||
| Oh my God. | ||
| What do you think about John versus Francis, though? | ||
| Every fight starts standing up, man. | ||
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| Yeah, it does. | ||
| And Francis is big. | ||
| That's terrifying. | ||
| Can John get in there fast enough to get him down? | ||
| Dude, he's cutting weight to make 265. Understand that. | ||
| Oh, I'm very aware. | ||
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He's cutting weight. | |
| He's cutting weight. | ||
| And he's putting people on another dimension. | ||
| My only thing is John's soul leaves your body. | ||
| Oh yeah, 100%. | ||
| You're just gonna power punch it? | ||
| All right. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| However, he ain't seen nothing like that guy. | ||
| No. | ||
| Nothing. | ||
| When that guy kicks his leg, that guy comes storming in like a bat out of hell, throwing punches that each one of them has concussion written all over it. | ||
| Each one of them. | ||
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God, he's scary. | |
| If anything lands on anybody and you're a 205-er, I mean, the best 205 of all time, no doubt. | ||
| But if we saw John get left hooked like the way we saw Gregor Gillespie get head kicked and just flatlined. | ||
| Thumbs in sin. | ||
| Shout out to Gregor Gillespie. | ||
| I know, and I was thinking that was a really tough fight for Kevin Lee to take. | ||
| We both were. | ||
| I was like, why would Kevin do this? | ||
| Kevin looked phenomenal. | ||
| Well, listen, man, the training with Feras a hobby and making that move. | ||
| Getting a real camp, real sparring partners, a real game plan. | ||
| And a real maestro, like a master. | ||
| You have to have it today. | ||
| You have to have it today if you're going to compete against the best. | ||
| And Feras is just one of the best ever. | ||
| I told him that's the guy who trained the guy who you fight like the most. | ||
| Go there. | ||
| Be that guy. | ||
| Yeah, be that guy. | ||
| Do that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Move your ass to cold-ass Montreal. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No black people. | ||
| Do that. | ||
| There's a few. | ||
| They speak French, though. | ||
| They speak French. | ||
| They rap in French. | ||
| Have you ever heard French rapping? | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| It's adorable. | ||
| GSP plays it in his car, and I was like, well, this is terrible. | ||
| Could you please switch the station? | ||
| GSP's still training. | ||
| Still training. | ||
| Still in tip-top magoo. | ||
| He's looking for a big fight. | ||
| Yeah, he said, look, I'm here, boys. | ||
| What do you want to do? | ||
| He wants the Khabib one. | ||
| He wants that at 65. Bro, him and Khabib at 165 would be gang busters. | ||
| Insane. | ||
| And he can make 165. He thinks he can make 55. Yeah, but let's not do it. | ||
| Let's not do it on TJ Dillashaw. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| I don't know what TJ was doing before he was doing this. | ||
| You know they don't test for EPO every fight. | ||
| They don't. | ||
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No, they don't. | |
| Cody Garbrandt said that he'd been on it before. | ||
| Cody and him were friends. | ||
| I don't know if that's true. | ||
| But I do know that when you look at the way he looked when he was training for that 125-pound fight, he looked like he was a dead man walking. | ||
| I couldn't imagine that he had any energy to train. | ||
| I can't imagine it. | ||
| I almost understand why he would take something. | ||
| I almost understand. | ||
| That's exactly what I said to him. | ||
| Except if Cody's telling the truth. | ||
| If Cody said he's done it before. | ||
| Well, you know Team Alpha has their issues with TJ and they've assumed he was on it before. | ||
| I don't know who to believe. | ||
| Is that the case though? | ||
| Or was he friends with Cody and Cody knew? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
|
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Yeah, I don't know. | |
| I don't know. | ||
| Either way, again, props to USADA. Because they're catching people doing shit like that. | ||
| Look, he should have never gone to 125. It's a terrible idea. | ||
| I mean, that guy that is training him, that guy who's that master strength and conditioning coach to put together this diet to drop down 125 pounds, that's all good on paper. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| That's all good on paper. | ||
| And I know he's trained a bunch of really top-level MMA guys. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| That's a ridiculous idea. | ||
| That's too much weight. | ||
| It's too much weight. | ||
| There's that. | ||
| Also, Jose Aldo's team, who's like, no, he can make 135. I'm like... | ||
| He looks like he's lost a lot of weight. | ||
| He's dying at 45, dude. | ||
| But he looks like he lost a lot of weight. | ||
| Have you seen the recent pictures of him? | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Don't need to. | ||
| Because here's the thing. | ||
| They're like, oh, you got kind of pieced up at 45, and you're older? | ||
| Dude, let's cut a shit ton of weight and see how that goes. | ||
| But here's the thing. | ||
| Why not 55? | ||
| I hear what you're saying, but I don't think he's actually cutting weight. | ||
| I think what he's done is lose weight. | ||
| Lose weight, like running, going slowly, because he's way out from a fight, right? | ||
| He's already fighting... | ||
| December 15? | ||
| Marlon Marais. | ||
| Is that what it is? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's fairly soon. | ||
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Dude. | |
| That's a good fight. | ||
| Brazilian-Brazilian crime, nothing better. | ||
| Dude, Marlon, before Cejudo got a hold of him, he looked like a world-beater. | ||
| Like he was gonna beat the world. | ||
| Cejudo broke him. | ||
| Broke him. | ||
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Broke him. | |
| Put that fucking will on him, son. | ||
| Put that will on him. | ||
| So here's the question. | ||
| Is Marlon Marais in a similar situation where he just can't maintain a pace after cutting that much weight because Marais cuts a fuckload of weight. | ||
| There it is. | ||
| Jermaine D'Amandamy. | ||
| Peter Yan, Uriah. | ||
| Amanda Nunes in Durandamy. | ||
| That's a fight that people are not talking about enough. | ||
| Durandamy is good, dude. | ||
| She's good. | ||
| She's super technical. | ||
| Remember when she refused to fight Cyborg and was like, I'll just give up the belt. | ||
| Fuck this noise. | ||
| No, you can kiss this ass. | ||
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Kiss this Dutch ass. | |
| Not interested. | ||
| Dude, Volkanovski versus Max Holloway is a good fucking fight. | ||
| You ever see Volkanovski when he's 240 pounds? | ||
| Yeah, it's fantastic. | ||
| Rugby player? | ||
| Yeah, he's 5'6", 240. He's from Izzy's, same camp. | ||
| Yes, he's an animal. | ||
| They got some boys over there. | ||
| Max Holloway, consensus greatest featherweight of all time. | ||
| Yeah, that's fair. | ||
| Of all time. | ||
| Of all time. | ||
| He's the best. | ||
| Beat the shit out of Aldo twice. | ||
| Twice. | ||
| Beat the shit out of Ortega when Ortega was the fucking man. | ||
| That's not the main event? | ||
| No, keep going. | ||
| One more. | ||
| Jon Jones! | ||
| Kamaru Usman, Colby Covington. | ||
| No, Jon Jones is the... | ||
| What is he? | ||
| January? | ||
| Is that the other Vegas one? | ||
| Oh, that's right. | ||
| That's February. | ||
| That's February. | ||
| February, Houston. | ||
| Oh, Kamaru Usman and Colby Covington. | ||
| Give me that again. | ||
| Let me see that again. | ||
| Let's go back to that. | ||
| Usman and Colby Covington. | ||
| Good luck calling that. | ||
| What do you think happens there? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Both their styles are very similar. | ||
| The only difference that you can really see, neither guy's ever been taken down in a fight, ever, but I would give the finishing power to Kamaru Usman. | ||
| I would as well. | ||
| He has some power. | ||
| He does have some power. | ||
| How about Colby with Robbie Lawler? | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Just outstruck him. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Insane. | ||
| Well, not only that, puts a pace on that you just can't handle. | ||
| You can't handle it. | ||
| But if anybody can handle it, it's that guy. | ||
| Because think about what Usman did at Woodley. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Takedown defense. | ||
| 100% Kamaru Usman. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| How the fuck is Colby 78? | ||
| Who took him down? | ||
| No one took him down. | ||
| Maybe his first fight. | ||
| Didn't he get submitted? | ||
| He had a broken rib. | ||
| Took a fight early in his career. | ||
| Injured, I think, to get into the UFC. Really? | ||
| And lost? | ||
| He got submitted. | ||
| I want to say it was his first fight. | ||
| Go to Colby Covington's first fight in the Octagon. | ||
| Oh, that's what they're going to do. | ||
| Woodley, Leon Edwards. | ||
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Ooh. | |
| Just hit me. | ||
| That's a tough fight. | ||
| Tough fight for both guys. | ||
| Good fight. | ||
| Very good fight. | ||
| Submit by guillotine. | ||
| Who, in first fight in the UFC? No. | ||
| I made him eight and one. | ||
| Who are you talking about? | ||
| In the UFC? Eight and one in the UFC? How many fights in was it? | ||
| One, two, three, four. | ||
| It was his fifth fight. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Who did it? | ||
| Worley Alves. | ||
| Worley Alves, that's right. | ||
| That was the fight that he got injured. | ||
| Worley Alves was a beast. | ||
| He's kind of fallen off, but he was a beast. | ||
| But I'm assuming Colby shot in? | ||
| Well, Colby went into that fight with a fucked up rib. | ||
| I know that for a fact. | ||
| But did he shoot in and get guillotined? | ||
| That makes sense. | ||
| I don't remember. | ||
| How the fuck did he get taken down? | ||
| He was hurt. | ||
| Maybe he fell down? | ||
| He was hurt. | ||
| I know for sure. | ||
| And then, who did he fight after that? | ||
| Because let me tell you the fight that made him put on this act. | ||
| Pull up his record. | ||
| Put it up on there. | ||
| It was quick into the fight. | ||
| It's his first round. | ||
| Oh, it was? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, he was fucked up. | ||
| I know for sure he was fucked up going into that fight. | ||
| That was a fight he didn't want to take. | ||
| Because him and Chael are close, and Chael's like, you need to come up with a shtick, dude. | ||
| Do you think so? | ||
| 100%. | ||
| Okay, let me see. | ||
| Make that a little bigger for my shitty eyes. | ||
| I'll scroll up. | ||
| Okay, there it is. | ||
| There it is. | ||
| I think it was when he was fighting Damien Maia that he started talking shit? | ||
| Where's that? | ||
| Sao Paulo. | ||
| Yup, that's exactly what it was. | ||
| Yeah, that's exactly where. | ||
| So he's fighting Damian Maia. | ||
| He called them filthy animals? | ||
| Yeah, he called them filthy animals. | ||
| Hilarious. | ||
| So apparently what was going on before then was he was not making enough noise. | ||
| No one gave a fuck about him. | ||
| And, you know, they're in the middle of contract negotiations, and I think they were threatening to cut him. | ||
| So he says all kinds of crazy shit about Damian Maia, and people pay attention. | ||
| They go, okay, okay, how about this? | ||
| We'll give you another Brazilian. | ||
| So they give him Rafael dos Anjos. | ||
| He beats the fuck out of Rafael dos Anjos. | ||
| And then they're like, holy shit, wait a minute here. | ||
| Wait a minute. | ||
| So in doing that, he wins the interim title. | ||
| And then there was a bunch of shenanigans. | ||
| They wanted him to fight in Madison Square Garden. | ||
| He said, look, I can't fight back-to-back that quick. | ||
| These are hard-ass camps. | ||
| So they strip them. | ||
| A lot of shit going on. | ||
| A lot of shit. | ||
| So then they bring him back against Robbie Lawler. | ||
| Big comeback fight. | ||
| Robbie Lawler is a murderer, right? | ||
| Big fight on ESPN. Yeah, big fight on ESPN. And he just runs him over, man. | ||
| Runs him over. | ||
| Like, Robbie never got air. | ||
| He never got air. | ||
| Kobe just stayed on. | ||
| Stayed on him. | ||
| Look at his record, right? | ||
| The last six, all five, last five, all decisions. | ||
| So it's like, if you're like, all this guy, he doesn't finish, but what he's doing to guys like Damian Maia and Dos Anjos and Robbie Lawler is so fun to watch. | ||
| He's breaking dudes. | ||
| This is crazy. | ||
| October of 2017. So it's basically two years old, this act. | ||
| And I can't wait. | ||
| Three fights old. | ||
| I can't wait for him to drop it. | ||
| I can't wait for him to drop it once he becomes a champ and tell everybody what he did. | ||
| You know why? | ||
| He didn't keep it going because he wants to go to WWE. Does he? | ||
| Yeah, that's his thing. | ||
| Smart. | ||
| Why not, man? | ||
| He's like, I want to go to WWE. If he becomes a champ and then goes to WWE and they put him on all the steroids. | ||
| Why not? | ||
| And then get him up to about 240. Keep the hat, keep the gimmick going, WWE. 100%. | ||
| Make bank, fake it. | ||
| Yeah, tell him. | ||
| I'm going to show you pussies how to really fight. | ||
| It's fantastic. | ||
| How about him versus Lesnar? | ||
| He's a heel? | ||
| Dude, you'll see that. | ||
| You'll see that. | ||
| Lesnar fought a little dude the other day. | ||
| Well, that would be fucking crazy. | ||
| That's what he wants to do. | ||
| Hey, why not, man? | ||
| You can make money. | ||
| You know? | ||
| At a certain point in time, you gotta go, you know, he accomplished a lot. | ||
| He's accomplished a lot in the game. | ||
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100%. | |
| If he decides, if he beats Usman... | ||
| Oh, he's like, how am I gonna parlay this? | ||
| How am I gonna keep this going? | ||
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Right. | |
| Because everybody knows fighting, you know, it's a finite window. | ||
| Like, what are you gonna do next? | ||
| Right. | ||
| Nobody knows what his body's like right now as far as injuries. | ||
| How many guys do you know that are in camp that have one fucked up knee or a weird shoulder or the neck keeps fucking with them? | ||
| Especially for his skill set. | ||
| That motor and that grind. | ||
| He's a grinder, so you gotta have it all, man. | ||
| I would like to watch his strength and conditioning workout because it must be fucking insane. | ||
| It must be insane because even Jorge Masvidal, off record when I was talking to him, I go, what do you think about what Colby goes? | ||
| We've trained together. | ||
| He goes, never seen a motor like that ever in my life. | ||
| He's a motherfucker. | ||
| He can go, man. | ||
| He can go. | ||
| He can go. | ||
| He put it on Robbie Law like I've never seen anybody put it on him. | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| The pace. | ||
| The pace was just insane. | ||
| He just never gave him any air. | ||
| Just kept on him. | ||
| Bang, bang, bang. | ||
| And I go, what do you use? | ||
| I go, you going 50%, 60%? | ||
| He goes, yeah. | ||
| About 50-60%. | ||
| Yeah, just volume. | ||
| Just never throwing full blasts, just staying on you. | ||
| Very Nate Nick Diaz-ish. | ||
| People forget when those guys started that a long time ago. | ||
| Nick started it. | ||
| Nick started it. | ||
| If you go back to watch his fight with Frank Shamrock, he just never gave Frank Shamrock any breaks. | ||
| Just stays on him. | ||
| It's not like exploding. | ||
| It's just staying volume. | ||
| Until he gets you hurt. | ||
| Then he starts ripping to the body. | ||
| Digging to the body. | ||
| And he starts letting you know, I'm not even a little tired, bitch. | ||
| And you're exhausted. | ||
| He starts putting it on you. | ||
| It's on. | ||
| To the Nate Diaz thing, I think Conor goes, I want to fight three times in 2020. I think he goes, if I've got a crystal ball that screws you McDuck of the UFC, I think he goes cowboy, Masvidal, and ends it with Nate Diaz. | ||
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Wow. | |
| Money, money, money. | ||
| Money, money, money. | ||
| Why not, right? | ||
| Because I think Tony and Khabib are going to tie up 155 for a while. | ||
| I think those boys are going to be back and forth. | ||
| I think it's going to be a great trilogy for the division. | ||
| Dude, I'm so excited about that fight. | ||
| I cannot wait. | ||
| That's my number one fight of the year. | ||
| Number one fight. | ||
| Don't give a fuck about anything else. | ||
| I want to see that fight. | ||
| I give a fuck about a lot of else. | ||
| I give a fuck about everything else. | ||
| I need that fight. | ||
| But it's in April. | ||
| It's in Brooklyn. | ||
| It might not even happen. | ||
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Oh, no. | |
| Just wrap each other. | ||
| I'm saying that because there's no way I could predict that this fight would get canceled. | ||
| So I'm saying that so that people can make fun of me that the fight actually happens. | ||
| I know. | ||
| See? | ||
| You know what would be great? | ||
| If the UFC just doesn't tell us, and then the week before they go... | ||
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Ferguson Khabib this Saturday, like, oh fuck yeah! | |
| I'm using reverse psychology, son. | ||
| Tight move. | ||
| Sometimes we jinx fights, dude. | ||
| I'm serious about Francis Ngannou, though. | ||
| I think he could be a real heavyweight contender in boxing. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| That's the one thing I'm not fucking around about. | ||
| I don't want anybody to get it twisted. | ||
| I really think that guy hit so fucking hard. | ||
| He's so good at fighting now, and he's so good at fighting high-level. | ||
| He's been fighting in the UFC against high-level guys for a long time. | ||
| I know it's different, but I don't think there's that much of an adjustment when you think about his primary skill set and the division he's talking about. | ||
| You don't think he can starch some of those top 15 guys? | ||
| He could fuck some of those dudes up. | ||
| I don't know, man. | ||
| Boom! | ||
| Boom! | ||
| Against the ropes. | ||
| You're out of your goddamn mind if you think you'd hang with Wilder or Fury. | ||
| I'm not saying right away. | ||
| I'm not saying right away. | ||
| But you gotta have some experience under your belt. | ||
| You gotta see some fireworks. | ||
| How many pro boxing fights does he even have? | ||
| Not many. | ||
| Think about how many Wilder has. | ||
| Does he have any? | ||
| We don't even know. | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| Connor had zero. | ||
| And you fought the best ever. | ||
| How'd that go? | ||
| Not great, did it? | ||
| Although he did land some punches. | ||
| He made a beautiful left uppercut. | ||
| Told you. | ||
| Beautiful left uppercut. | ||
| Now if Francis lands that on Wilder Fury, it's game over. | ||
| It's interesting. | ||
| Maybe not. | ||
| Oh, with the power? | ||
| Maybe they can take it. | ||
| Maybe he can hurt him. | ||
| Maybe they can roll with it a little bit better. | ||
| Wilder takes it, dude. | ||
| That's the thing about Wilder. | ||
| He takes it. | ||
| He's got a tremendous chin. | ||
| So does Joshua. | ||
| Joshua eats it too, man. | ||
| Joshua will get hit. | ||
| He's been wobbled before the Dillian White fight. | ||
| He's been wobbled, man. | ||
| He got clocked by Klitschko. | ||
| So that's why I think against Wilder, man. | ||
| Because Wilder lands. | ||
| It's a game, set, match. | ||
| It's over. | ||
| What did you think about Canelo fighting Sergey Kovalev? | ||
| How crazy was that? | ||
| When he flatlined Sergey Kovalev at 175 pounds. | ||
| How good is Canelo? | ||
| He's amazing. | ||
| To me, he's pound for pound number one. | ||
| You look at his resume, everyone goes, ooh, Bud, who I love, Bud Crawford, shout out to Bud, Bud and Earl Spence, everyone goes, that's pound for pound number one, or Lomachenko. | ||
| Dude, look at who Canelo's has beat, man, in different divisions. | ||
| You're talking about fucking marquee guys, and he's stopping them, man. | ||
| The Triple G fights, obviously there's some controversy there, but... | ||
| The Triple G fights are real controversial. | ||
| The first one was very controversial. | ||
| The second one was... | ||
| The second one, not so much. | ||
| What's up? | ||
| They delayed his fight for the end of the UFC fight the other day. | ||
| Yes, they did, and he's mad at that. | ||
| He said no more, because apparently people were tired, man. | ||
| Especially, like, East Coast folks. | ||
| Did you watch it? | ||
| Yeah, I watched it. | ||
| It was insane! | ||
| Yeah, they delayed it forever. | ||
| Dude, four hours. | ||
| They show him... | ||
| In the back, sitting there like, what the fuck? | ||
| Waiting for the end of the UFC fight. | ||
| And DAZN was just like... | ||
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How about DAZN played the UFC in the arena? | |
| Look at this. | ||
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Laugh my off. | |
| Who wrote that? | ||
| Who wrote that tweet? | ||
| Impersonator Ryan. | ||
| What does it say? | ||
| Let me shout him out. | ||
| It says... | ||
| The Chew defense. | ||
| Imperator Ryan, the Chew defense. | ||
| That's the Chew defense. | ||
| On Twitter it says, LMAO, Canelo, and Kovalev are napping because they've got to wait on the UFC. It's ridiculous. | ||
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Like, show a little pride, DAZN. Dana loved it. | |
| He loved it. | ||
| He was so happy. | ||
| As a UFC guy, I was also like, yeah, bitch. | ||
| This is who's king. | ||
| Can you imagine Dana bowing down and going, listen, Floyd's fighting. | ||
| We're going to wait for the main event. | ||
| No! | ||
| What? | ||
| Impossible! | ||
| The UFC doesn't give a fuck what you got going on. | ||
| Nate Diaz vs. | ||
| Masvidal was a special fight, too. | ||
| And the thing about making it for the bad motherfucker belt, almost like everybody was like, yes! | ||
| Why not? | ||
| Everyone loved it. | ||
| Why not? | ||
| You know? | ||
| And now, isn't Ioana Junjacek gonna fight Zhang Weiling? | ||
| Isn't she fighting her for the belt? | ||
| Oh, did they not have that? | ||
| Because they didn't give her that fight. | ||
| Ioana says she wants to fight for the female BMF belt. | ||
| Oh, damn. | ||
| She should fight Jessica Andrade in a rematch. | ||
| 52-48. | ||
| Is it official? | ||
| Damn! | ||
| That's a fucking card. | ||
| Who else is on that card? | ||
| It's that March 7th card. | ||
| So it's not been announced yet. | ||
| So that's the one they think might be Adesanya and Yoel Romero. | ||
| So Dana said he didn't want that fight though. | ||
| Determined locations. | ||
| Dana said he didn't? | ||
| Yeah, Dana said he didn't want that fight because Yoel lost his last couple fights. | ||
| I thought he said he did want it. | ||
| No, Dana said he, personally. | ||
| Dana didn't think that was a good fight for Yoel. | ||
| But think about it. | ||
| What else is there? | ||
| Well, it's a great fight for Yoel. | ||
| I think it's a great fight for Adesanya. | ||
| I think it's a great fight for the division. | ||
| But who else are you going to do? | ||
| You look at the division, there's no one else. | ||
| Well, one of the things that Masvidal, who's friends with Yoel, said, I respect the fuck out of Adesanya because he asked for that beast. | ||
| He said he asked for him. | ||
| And that was my point with Andrew Schultz. | ||
| I'm like, no, you don't understand. | ||
| To build the legend of Izzy, him asking for Yoel, everybody in the game respects that. | ||
| You want to fight that fucking monster? | ||
| Even Darren Till. | ||
| Darren Till said, anybody but Yoel. | ||
| He was joking around after the fight. | ||
| He was like, I don't want to fight that fucking guy. | ||
| I think they're going to do Darren Till Whitaker, man. | ||
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Mmm. | |
| That's a great fucking fight. | ||
| Well, they talked about doing that on the undercard of Adesanya Yoel Romero. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Wasn't that? | ||
| No, no, no, no, no. | ||
| In March. | ||
| It was the undercard of another fight. | ||
| Fuck. | ||
| What did he say? | ||
| He reached out to some... | ||
| Oh, Conor and Cowboy. | ||
| That's who it was. | ||
| He wanted to be on the undercard of Conor and Cowboy. | ||
| Too soon. | ||
| Not happening. | ||
| I don't know, man. | ||
| I don't think Whitaker would be ready to go by then after getting knocked out. | ||
| What's the date on that fight? | ||
| That's January. | ||
| January what? | ||
| We're in December, dude. | ||
| Right, but it's six weeks. | ||
| Darren Till breaks out his red panties, invites Robert Whitaker to UFC 246 co-main event. | ||
| Yeah, so that's six weeks. | ||
| The only thing is Robert Whitaker got starched just a couple of months ago. | ||
| So you get at least a 120-day suspension. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Well, I don't know if he actually can make that medically. | ||
| No, that's what I'm saying. | ||
| It's not going to happen. | ||
| It's too soon. | ||
| Also, I think a fight like that where a guy like Adesanya just sort of starches you like that, that requires a reset. | ||
| Take your time, dude. | ||
| I love Whitaker. | ||
| Take your time, man. | ||
| But maybe not. | ||
| I mean, maybe he knows better than us. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| You think so? | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| I'm outside looking in. | ||
| I'd say no. | ||
| I'm trying to be nice. | ||
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No, dude. | |
| Take your time. | ||
| I don't think he does. | ||
| Take your time. | ||
| But I would like to see that fight, too. | ||
| So maybe they can make that happen on... | ||
| That March card would work. | ||
| Maybe sometime in the future. | ||
| There's a great April card as well, right? | ||
| April is the UFC in Brooklyn with Tony and Khabib. | ||
| Maybe it could be on the undercard of that fight. | ||
| That's a great fight. | ||
| It's a good time to be a fight fan, man. | ||
| It's a good time, man. | ||
| It's a good time. | ||
| There's a lot of good shit happening. | ||
| Hell yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I get home to my son, dude. | ||
| Yeah, it's 6 o'clock already. | ||
| I know. | ||
| TFATK.com. | ||
| Where you at next? | ||
| I'm in KC Friday and Saturday. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| Kansas City. | ||
| I know, dude. | ||
| You doing the improv? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I haven't been. | ||
| I've only did the Stanford and Sons. | ||
| It's a newer one, I think. | ||
| I think it's over the last couple years. | ||
| Next week, first time, I'm Borgata, Atlantic City. | ||
| That's a fun gig. | ||
| Is it fun? | ||
| I'm excited for it. | ||
| A lot of animals. | ||
| I'm also chilling on stage and throwing money at the audience. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Throwing hundreds. | ||
| Probably threw $10,000 at the audience. | ||
| I love this guy. | ||
| I brought him on stage. | ||
| I'm like, throw your money. | ||
| Smell terrible. | ||
| But he threw a lot of money at people. | ||
| Smell terrible. | ||
| Borgata, KC, get him. | ||
| Sorry, buddy. | ||
| Sorry, bro. | ||
| I hope everybody's good. | ||
| Much love to you all. |
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