March 1, 2011 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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| Took yoga, hung out with my dog, and now we're here. | ||
| Alright, we're live. | ||
| What's up, Max? | ||
| How are you, brother? | ||
| Good to see you. | ||
| I'm good, yeah. | ||
| How you doing? | ||
| I'm good. | ||
| Finally here. | ||
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I've been asking you for about, I think, uh, what? | |
| 17? | ||
| 17 fights straight. | ||
| What am I getting on those? | ||
| We tried to organize it a couple of times, but maybe you live on an island in the middle of the ocean. | ||
| I know. | ||
| It's a little, it's a different thing, you know, logistically. | ||
| I know, I know, but you finally made it happen. | ||
| Yes, we finally made it happen. | ||
| You're the man, I can't wait. | ||
| So how you doing, man? | ||
| Everything alright? | ||
| Everything good. | ||
| Walking good? | ||
| Walking great. | ||
| Yeah, you look totally fine. | ||
| Oh yeah, I told you guys, I was... | ||
| I had an apple party after the fight. | ||
| I was boogieing. | ||
| I was doing the power slide. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Chainsmokers, they were actually at Excess. | ||
| They had their concert thing at Excess. | ||
| They brought me up into their booth and I was trying to get him to let me jump on and off the stage with him because he looked like he was having fun. | ||
| That's amazing, man, because your left leg, it looked like, at least during the fight, it was getting busted up. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, you know, it's... | ||
| You're just used to it. | ||
| Yeah, it is what it is, you know? | ||
| I heard, I saw, I got to watch the fight a little bit over, you know? | ||
| And, you know, talking about the fight, a lot of people, actually about the press conference, when I said I thought I won, I think so people, people is taking it the wrong way. | ||
| A lot of his fans is taking it the wrong way. | ||
| It's like, when I was in there, in my mind, I thought I won because I, when you think about it, I thought I was landing more damaging shots to the head and body, you know? | ||
| I know leg kicks, he was landing here and there, but I didn't think it was too much until after I saw whatever happened, you know? | ||
| But at the end of the day, you know, it's like, it's what I said. | ||
| I just, my legs fell flat. | ||
| I went to the after party. | ||
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I danced. | |
| And if I put it in this way, you know, out of all my title fights, this is the least damage I took in a title fight. | ||
| And I lost my belt, so... | ||
| To the face and to the body. | ||
| Yeah, to the face and to the body. | ||
| I know he was landing some leg kicks and some was power. | ||
| But then a bunch of other ones, I thought so. | ||
| I didn't know that it was landing that much to that extent. | ||
| Then again, this is not a street fight, you know? | ||
| It's not a street fight. | ||
| It's a game, and he helped win me in the game, so good for him. | ||
| Yeah, it's an interesting game when it comes to scoring, right? | ||
| Because what should be scored more? | ||
| Punches or leg kicks? | ||
| It's hard. | ||
| Leg kicks are damaging. | ||
| They mean a lot. | ||
| Fights have been stopped on leg kicks, but Barboza, I think, stopped two people with leg kicks. | ||
| I think the system sucks. | ||
| It's a boxing system. | ||
| It's not our system. | ||
| We shouldn't have that system. | ||
| We should have a more comprehensive system that recognizes everything. | ||
| Sometimes it's weird too. | ||
| Not technically my fight, but other fights. | ||
| You see people who stick and move nice and this and that. | ||
| Just because the guy is walking forward, he's winning the fight. | ||
| You see people get into scuffles, and then one guy bounce back, it looks like he's retreating, but he's actually not. | ||
| He landed more in the scuffle, and since he bounced back, they're like, oh, I think that guy that was staying there was actually winning the fight. | ||
| It's what you said. | ||
| Some guys favor a little bit more than another thing. | ||
| I think there's a real problem with judges not even being martial artists. | ||
| That's why... | ||
| That's a giant problem. | ||
| That's why Burt Watson say, don't be pitched at their judges. | ||
| But that's easier said than done. | ||
| It is. | ||
| Especially when you're fighting the best guys in the world, too. | ||
| You can't expose. | ||
| It's not smart. | ||
| It's not a smart way to fight. | ||
| The way you're fighting is the best way to fight. | ||
| But the judges should at least have some martial arts experience. | ||
| And I know there's a bunch of them that have never even fucking trained. | ||
| They just took some courses. | ||
| I was talking to some people that was behind the scenes. | ||
| They came from the DC event. | ||
| Some of the commission there at the DC event I heard was crazy. | ||
| Some people were just not like... | ||
| Didn't know anything? | ||
| Yeah, not supposed to be there. | ||
| I was like, what is going on? | ||
| To put it in perspective for people out there, it's like, it's all I do for a living. | ||
| It's all I do. | ||
| So to me, I got to put the trust in someone that doesn't know what they're doing when I'm over here sacrificing my time. | ||
| It's kind of hard. | ||
| I'm not talking about my fight again. | ||
| I'm just talking about other people. | ||
| Yeah, anytime there's a bad decision. | ||
| It's just tough, you know? | ||
| It's horrible. | ||
| It's horrible, and they don't do anything about it. | ||
| And there's people that have put in bad decision after bad decision, and then you see them still being listed as judges. | ||
| And you're like, this is crazy. | ||
| Like, I want to ask them questions. | ||
| I want to show them a video. | ||
| I heard that the last one was inside, right before I did my press conference and stuff. | ||
| I heard you go, who is judging this? | ||
| We need to fire everyone. | ||
| They do need to fire everyone. | ||
| You know what they should do, man? | ||
| They should hire ex-fighters. | ||
| They should. | ||
| They should. | ||
| I talked to Frank Trigg before he moved off of Hawaii. | ||
| And he was trying to become his ref. | ||
| He's reffing. | ||
| And now he finally got to Bellator. | ||
| I think he just did UFC for the first time a couple weeks ago, a couple months ago. | ||
| And I was telling them, like, why would they not just let you put in there? | ||
| They're like, oh, there's a time system. | ||
| You need to do this. | ||
| I was like, you, like, fought for a championship belt in the highest organization. | ||
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What? | |
| Who in the right mind is being like, yeah, this guy's not qualified. | ||
| I would want you sitting or judging my fights. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| 100%. | ||
| Like, just because someone, okay, maybe they did take a class, but it's like, it's like license, you know? | ||
| Just because you pass your license test doesn't mean you should be allowed to drive on the road, you know? | ||
| Well, you know what it's like? | ||
| It's like passing a written test, but never having driven a car. | ||
| Exactly! | ||
| That's what it's like. | ||
| like here's your driver's license you don't even know how to fucking hit the gas you don't know how much brake you should apply when you you see some of these people that are judging you can you know they've never done anything they've never done they don't they don't have any idea what's going on they just have a cursory understanding of fighting and that's not acceptable for the highest level of the game yeah there's so many x fighters that would make amazing referees or judges and there's so well i don't have much of a problem with referees there's a lot of great referees but there's so many people that could be great judges | ||
| there's so many super fans out there that have been training their whole life that just they're really really into the sport a lot of these fans these these uh judges rather not even fans yeah yeah They're just people that are doing it for a job. | ||
| They're getting a paycheck. | ||
| And then getting to watch the fights for free live. | ||
| Front row. | ||
| And they don't even care. | ||
| They're not even fans. | ||
| It's ridiculous. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| It's funny. | ||
| Like you said, the fans, I actually think of... | ||
| What is his name? | ||
| I'm brain farting right now. | ||
| Joe, the old matchmaker. | ||
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Joe Silva. | |
| Joe Silva, yeah. | ||
| I actually think... | ||
| You ever heard his story of how he got to work for the UFC? Yes. | ||
| That's when you were saying they're a super fan. | ||
| He was one of the guys. | ||
| He was a super fan. | ||
| Hey, Joe Silva was the... | ||
| Guys, shout out to Joe Silva. | ||
| Shout out to Joe Silva. | ||
| He was the first... | ||
| Guy that actually shot his shot. | ||
| I heard his story. | ||
| He told me his story in person. | ||
| He wrote down. | ||
| He told me what he did. | ||
| He wrote a letter to UFC. This and that. | ||
| And what he think he should change. | ||
| This and that. | ||
| And then they called him up and be like, Hey, would you like to come up? | ||
| We like your ideas. | ||
| The dude got set up, you know? | ||
| Like, wow! | ||
| Joe Silva's the first shot shooter, guys. | ||
| Yeah, well, he's a legit fan. | ||
| I mean, still is to this day, you know? | ||
| He made enough money, he retired, he's a smart man. | ||
| He just said, fuck this, I'm out. | ||
| I don't want to work like this anymore. | ||
| Why? | ||
| You just got, you just, you was a part of the business when they got bought out, you might as well chill with your family, you know? | ||
| Yeah, he just decided to just lay back, build himself a nice house. | ||
| Even that, what his story does so mean, there's saying, oh yeah, you gotta move here, this and that. | ||
| He's like, nope, I can do it from home. | ||
| I was like, Joe, you are a boss. | ||
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Joseph is a boss. | |
| When he started me, I was like, my gosh, Joe. | ||
| You're a boss. | ||
| It's a hard gig. | ||
| It's a hard gig setting up fights. | ||
| Well, MMA fights in particular because guys get injured so much more than in boxing. | ||
| That's one thing that I like talking to people or telling people. | ||
| They're like, oh, there's so difference with this and that and blah, blah, blah. | ||
| I'm like, guys. | ||
| Boxers, MLB, NBA, NFL, they have the set schedule. | ||
| They have a set schedule. | ||
| Like, I can sit down, LeBron can sit down before the year, right when they announced their first regular season, he know exactly where he's going to be the whole year. | ||
| Boxers do the same thing. | ||
| They know exactly, we're going to fight this month and this month. | ||
| They don't know the opponent's name, but after a fight, they already kind of know who they're fighting, you know? | ||
| MMA fighters, they're like, don't you know what's going on? | ||
| I was like, I have no clue. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Well, how about when you almost fought Khabib for the title on super short notice? | ||
| Yeah, on six days. | ||
| How much did you weigh when you were trying to get down to 55 and they stopped you? | ||
| When they stopped me? | ||
| What did you weigh when you started? | ||
| I was, when we got the call, when I got there, when I checked in, I was already, the day before weight check, I'll tell you what I was, the day of the weight cut. | ||
| I was 170. 170, the day of the weight cut. | ||
| The weight cut. | ||
| And I'm not going to tell you the exact number I was before they stopped me, but I was in reach. | ||
| I was right there. | ||
| Why did they stop you? | ||
| They came in the room. | ||
| They looked at me. | ||
| They said, yeah, you don't look good. | ||
| Yeah, we're cutting it. | ||
| I was like, what? | ||
| I was like, I feel good. | ||
| Let's do it. | ||
| You know, it was right there. | ||
| And then, uh, this is what they said, you know, and it is what it is. | ||
| They had a real problem with New York in the beginning, especially. | ||
| There's a lot of people that just weren't prepared for MMA. Yeah, I mean, I mean, like, I mean, the New York cards, period, don't have a lot of luck at all. | ||
| Every time you see Wentz, something happened. | ||
| And I told, and then I heard them, they're going back to Brooklyn or whatever. | ||
| Where is Tony fighting? | ||
| Tony and... | ||
| Brooklyn. | ||
| Why? | ||
| They had a Brooklyn card already scheduled, and that was a good fight, so they put it in there. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| God, you've got to keep Tony away from cables the day before the fight. | ||
| Tony, someone needs to just be around him all the time, just ready to catch him. | ||
| Just please. | ||
| This is the fifth fucking time they've scheduled this fight. | ||
| Hey, you know what they say, right? | ||
| Fifth time's a charm. | ||
| It's a great fight, though. | ||
| I love the fight. | ||
| I can't wait. | ||
| I'm excited. | ||
| I'm excited. | ||
| Stylistically, I think he's the best guy that Khabib's ever faced because he can fight off his back. | ||
| He's a guy that doesn't survive off his back. | ||
| He attacks off his back. | ||
| And he's a guy who just, he just, he throws a lot of weird things from weird places. | ||
| Like, it's just, it's hard. | ||
| Like, people don't understand it. | ||
| Like, it's very hard when you fight someone weird and awkward, even Spartan, because you try to get something and then he's just like, bang, hits you with an elbow. | ||
| But his head is like by the ground. | ||
| It's like, what are you doing, Tony? | ||
| You know, like, how did I get hit by an elbow? | ||
| I thought your head is over here. | ||
| He's the most unorthodox, high-level guy ever. | ||
| Yeah, he's good. | ||
| He's real good. | ||
| He's real good. | ||
| At his level, though, because I consider him a world championship caliber fighter. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| At his level, I don't know of anybody that's more unorthodox than him. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| His fucking cardio, man. | ||
| His cardio is crazy. | ||
| Off the chain. | ||
| Off the charts. | ||
| I've never seen anybody with cardio like that. | ||
| I don't know what the fuck it is. | ||
| Do you think that's genetic? | ||
| To some extent? | ||
| Yeah, 100%. | ||
| I think you gotta have it. | ||
| Everybody keeps telling me, oh, you gotta... | ||
| It's just like knockout power. | ||
| You can't build it, but some people just have it. | ||
| I was talking to my friends. | ||
| I got a little Japanese friend. | ||
| He's with me on my corner all the time. | ||
| My wrestling coach, he helped me out a lot. | ||
| And I tell him all the time, this dude is a little 125 pound. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| 115 pound guy. | ||
| Pretty much a little girl, I tell him all the time. | ||
| I'm like, you're a little girl. | ||
| But if anything, there was this one time we was out and about, and this guy was just acting crazy. | ||
| This is like a couple years back. | ||
| I was at the UFC, but we was at one of the UFC events. | ||
| I forget what event we was at. | ||
| But we was doing something. | ||
| It was a big thing, and... | ||
| I was at a party and then this one Asian dude is just like getting all crazy in people's faces like crazy drunk and blah blah getting in his face and I told this is how hard my friend punches I tell him I tell him guy I would crack him, but I'm scared I'm not going to put him to sleep. | ||
| I know if you punch him, he's going to go knock out. | ||
| So you go hit him. | ||
| And he wouldn't hit him, though. | ||
| He wouldn't hit him, but he punches so hard. | ||
| He's the smallest guy in our group. | ||
| Even one time, we was at home in Waikiki walking, and there's this drunk guy. | ||
| And there's five of us, and he's the smallest guy in the back. | ||
| And we're all walking in almost a line. | ||
| And this big guy, he slips everybody. | ||
| Little guy laughs, he bumps them. | ||
| Hard. | ||
| And I look at him, I'm like, what? | ||
| And then he goes to the little guy. | ||
| He turns to my friend and be like, what? | ||
| And my friend goes, what? | ||
| And then he's like, oh, okay, nothing. | ||
| And he walks away. | ||
| And then I told him, we was hanging with this new guy. | ||
| This guy was just hanging out with us. | ||
| I told him, that is the wrong guy to bump into. | ||
| Because out of everyone here, he probably one punch, knock you out. | ||
| He's the smallest guy. | ||
| This is it. | ||
| I think it's just genetics. | ||
| Punching power is definitely a genetic thing. | ||
| Look at Wilder. | ||
| Look at Deontay Wilder. | ||
| There's no way. | ||
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Genetics. | |
| There's no way you can teach that kind of power. | ||
| 200, what is it? | ||
| 215. 215. And he's cracking. | ||
| Flatlining people. | ||
| On the forehead. | ||
| Yeah, but he's like killing people. | ||
| This is not guys who's getting flash KOs. | ||
| Wilder is different. | ||
| He could wake up. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| But everybody else he hits, they're like... | ||
| They go flying. | ||
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Did you... | |
| Did you not see that video they made of his last fight that the soul came out? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| But that's what it's like, man. | ||
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It is. | |
| That's what it's like when he hit Ortiz on the fucking forehead, man. | ||
| You hit him on the forehead. | ||
| You hit him in the chin. | ||
| That's how you know you hit hard. | ||
| You just hit different. | ||
| Yeah, but he does it to everybody. | ||
| When you look at his record, he's got 40 knockouts in 42 fights. | ||
| One decision and one draw. | ||
| 40 knockouts in 42 fights. | ||
| Fucking crazy! | ||
| And then when you look at it, he's huge. | ||
| He's ripped. | ||
| But he's skinny. | ||
| Yeah, but he's very thin. | ||
| You would be like, he's a skinny dude, you know? | ||
| Like, if you looked at Anthony Joshua... | ||
| You would think he would knock out people. | ||
| He would knock out everybody. | ||
| Especially before he fought Ruiz the first time. | ||
| He was super... | ||
| He got a little more lean after the first fight. | ||
| But yeah, he's big. | ||
| Do you remember Frank Bruno? | ||
| Frank Bruno. | ||
| Frank Bruno was a boxer from England. | ||
| That was like one of the biggest guys ever. | ||
| And Mike Tyson fucked him up. | ||
| He was this big, giant dude, though. | ||
| He was so big. | ||
| He built like a bodybuilder. | ||
| He thought he would just flatline people. | ||
| And Mike Tyson just smushed him. | ||
| See, Mike, genetics. | ||
| Yes, that's genetics. | ||
| We're talking about genetics. | ||
| Did you not see the video of Mike Tyson showing who, what, Nagano? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| How to slip. | ||
| I was like, guy. | ||
| In his 50s. | ||
| Come on, guy. | ||
| Why are you moving like this? | ||
| Teddy Atmos told me that when he was 13 years old, Tyson weighed 190 pounds. | ||
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What?! | |
| He brought him to smokers. | ||
| Yeah, it was true. | ||
| He brought him to smokers. | ||
| And they would go, how old is this kid? | ||
| He goes, 13. He goes, get the fuck out of here. | ||
| He's 16. And he's like, I'm telling you, he's 13. They would put him in with 16-year-olds because they wouldn't believe him. | ||
| They didn't believe he was 13. You sure they didn't do that from, what is that called? | ||
| What is that one movie? | ||
| That one movie, that baseball movie, Bench Warmer, is when he's like, I'm 13. Oh, right, right. | ||
| No, Tyson, it's real. | ||
| Yeah, man, genetics are real. | ||
| There's him with Nganu. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| Watch this. | ||
| Watch this move. | ||
| He looks like such an elder statesman too, you know, with his beard. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah, and then watch when he does his slip thing. | ||
| Where is his slip one? | ||
| Oh, I think that was a different one. | ||
| That was him. | ||
| Oh, here it is. | ||
| Here it is. | ||
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Here it is. | |
| Bring it from the beginning. | ||
| Put it from the beginning, Jamie. | ||
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Whoop! | |
| Whoop! | ||
| Yeah, he's showing them angles. | ||
| This guy is a beast. | ||
| Well, you know, Ngannou's thinking about fighting in boxing. | ||
| For real? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And I think that's not a bad idea. | ||
| Because the boxing heavyweight division is very good at the very top. | ||
| There's like four or five really, really good guys. | ||
| But I think he could merc motherfuckers on the way up. | ||
| And he'd probably make a shitload of money. | ||
| Oh yeah, definitely. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| Now that UFC is getting involved in boxing, I don't think it's a bad idea. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But he's got to get past Rosenstreich. | ||
| Rosenstreich's a scary fucking dude. | ||
| That thing he did to Alistair's lip, I've never seen a cut that bad before. | ||
| Oh yeah, that one with five seconds left? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Crazy. | ||
| That just shows you how nuts the sport is, right? | ||
| Alistair's winning the fight on points, he's scoring, he's fighting smart, and he just has a mental lapse. | ||
| Games are inches, seconds, millimeters. | ||
| You just cannot. | ||
| That's the hardest thing of being in a fight. | ||
| You just got to be on. | ||
| Sometimes it's like, boom! | ||
| Five seconds left. | ||
| Winning the whole fight on the scoreboard, he's winning. | ||
| He showed it. | ||
| How sick is that to watch after going that far, five seconds away from the final bell, And then you're going home with a fat cut. | ||
| You probably need like 400 stitches on that lip. | ||
| Your lip not going to ever look the same. | ||
| Look at that lip. | ||
| Look at that picture. | ||
| That is goddamn crazy. | ||
| That is, without a doubt, the nastiest fucking injury I've ever seen in this world. | ||
| I mean, I'd almost rather get a broken leg than that. | ||
| Oh, no, no. | ||
| Definitely not. | ||
| Like Anderson's broken leg. | ||
| Oh, no, no. | ||
| Look at that, though. | ||
| Look at me smiling. | ||
| That motherfucker... | ||
| Oh, my gosh. | ||
| Alistair takes a loss. | ||
| You take a loss better than anybody. | ||
| But Alistair is right up there. | ||
| It is what it is. | ||
| It's living. | ||
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It's life. | |
| I love that saying though. | ||
| It is what it is. | ||
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Yeah, it is what it is. | |
| It's life. | ||
| It is life, yeah. | ||
| Anyway, after the fight, we're walking around with me and my son the next day on Monday. | ||
| Oh, not the next day. | ||
| Oh yeah, it is the next day. | ||
| Sunday. | ||
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Sunday. | |
| I'm walking into New York, New York. | ||
| There's a Hawaiian. | ||
| I love Hawaiians. | ||
| I love my Hawaiians. | ||
| They're the greatest fans in the world. | ||
| She comes up to me and she grabs my back and she's like, oh, I'm so sorry, boy, blah, blah. | ||
| I'm like, for what? | ||
| She's like, you lost your fight. | ||
| I'm like, Andy, I'm alive. | ||
| I didn't die. | ||
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It's okay. | |
| You know, we're going to get the belt back. | ||
| It's just a fight. | ||
| It's one fight. | ||
| We'll be back. | ||
| But yeah, a lot of people talking to me like it's my funeral or something. | ||
| I'm like, guys, I'm okay. | ||
| I'm going to be back. | ||
| I didn't take no real damage. | ||
| I'm just happy that I'm not injured and out for a long time. | ||
| And I can get back to do what I love. | ||
| And that's punching people in the face. | ||
| At the end of the day, I'm happy. | ||
| Like I said, I didn't need the belt to be a champion. | ||
| I know I'm a champion. | ||
| The belt was just to let people know that, look, I'm one of the greatest guys to ever do it. | ||
| My plan is to be one of the greatest of all time. | ||
| And whoever you guys think it is, let me know. | ||
| I'll go knock on the front door right now and be like, hey, let's set something up. | ||
| Yeah, well, you just need to make some adjustments for a rematch. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| The whole thing was him attacking your legs. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He was getting close. | ||
| It was a smart strategy. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It was real good. | ||
| Game of inches, you know? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He did what he did. | ||
| Like we said, it's not a street fight. | ||
| It's not a street fight. | ||
| He did the points. | ||
| He's nice. | ||
| You switch. | ||
| Better than anybody. | ||
| You're really good at switching while you're fighting. | ||
| You switch stances. | ||
| You switch orthodox. | ||
| But you were forced at certain times in the fight to fight southpaw because of the leg damage, right? | ||
| Not really because of leg damage because I just felt when I was going southpaw... | ||
| Against him, I just felt more like he was waiting a lot more. | ||
| As soon as I went regular, it was funny because I could hear his teammate's style bender. | ||
| I could hear his coach. | ||
| As soon as I go southpaw, they're not really seeing anything. | ||
| And as soon as I switch back to regular, I hear the word, Dragon! | ||
| Dragon! | ||
| And Dragon was leg kick. | ||
| I was like, oh, leg kick's coming. | ||
| Like a dragon tail? | ||
| I don't know what they were calling, but they were saying dragon and it was like a late kick. | ||
| So I could hear it in there and I was like, okay, well let's go southpaw and see what they started calling here. | ||
| And they wasn't really calling anything. | ||
| They were just like, you need to punch now or you need to move now and attack. | ||
| So I guess they wasn't really ready for a southpaw max more than a regular. | ||
| Because as soon as I went back regular, they were screaming dragon like it was religious or something. | ||
| So it was crazy. | ||
| It was crazy. | ||
| What did you think he was going to fight like? | ||
| What did you think his strategy was going to be coming into the fight? | ||
| You know, I thought so. | ||
| I thought so. | ||
| He was going to... | ||
| I knew he was going to do that. | ||
| A lot of feints, for sure. | ||
| You know? | ||
| I thought he was going to do, like, how he did Aldo. | ||
| Maybe a little bit more, get me against the fence. | ||
| But I think so. | ||
| He was kind of tripping out when he got me there and I was able to get off. | ||
| And some of them, I think so. | ||
| He was tripping out that he couldn't take... | ||
| Like, he was going to... | ||
| I thought so. | ||
| They was playing a narrative like they was going to take me down and ground upon me and stuff. | ||
| You know? | ||
| So, I don't know. | ||
| I don't know what we did. | ||
| I think so. | ||
| We did good and then he just did better in one aspect with the leg kicks and it all added up. | ||
| Yeah, I have to watch the fight again, but I don't remember him landing a real significant punch that had you hurt. | ||
| Nah, not really. | ||
| It was good punches, but his leg kick work was excellent though. | ||
| He did a lot of great work. | ||
| Some of the first ones, in the first round, some of the first ones was great, was good in the early rounds, but some of the other ones was just like, we were super close, and then he would just throw it. | ||
| We'd end up getting into a tango, and he would just end with a leg kick, just to even touch me. | ||
| At the end of the day, I was like, oh, I guess that was the game plan, was just to leg kick him. | ||
| Well, you've got to get a rematch. | ||
| I mean, you are, without a doubt, the most accomplished featherweight champion of all time. | ||
| I mean, if you look at your career, you beat Aldo twice, you beat basically everybody. | ||
| You beat everybody in the division. | ||
| Ortega, you beat all the up-and-comers, you beat all the veterans, you beat everybody who was there. | ||
| And so, in my eyes, a rematch makes sense, and it's a very exciting fight. | ||
| It would be a great rematch. | ||
| It would sell. | ||
| Yeah, it's going to sell, for sure. | ||
| Because there's no one really compelling... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's not like you lost the title, Volkanovski beat you, but there's another guy who's been begging and pleading, and right there, everybody wants to see you fight for the title. | ||
| Yeah, Volkanovski was that guy. | ||
| Volkanovski was that guy, yeah. | ||
| I mean, there's good guys in the division, but you've beaten most of the guys. | ||
| Ortega was the big guy, right? | ||
| He was the one that everybody wanted to see you fight, because he was undefeated, and he would win in such spectacular ways. | ||
| But you deserve a rematch, I really feel like. | ||
| Yeah, we see what happens. | ||
| I can't wait. | ||
| I heard a little bit, they didn't hit me up yet, but I heard Dana saying something in Australia or whatever, but it is what it is. | ||
| That would be fun. | ||
| Australia would be the move. | ||
| We see what happens. | ||
| You know how it is. | ||
| I got this never-backed-down attitude. | ||
| Do you believe that little motherfucker used to be 240 pounds? | ||
| How crazy is that? | ||
| That is crazy. | ||
| He was a tank, man, when he was playing rugby. | ||
| He was just like a bulldozer. | ||
| I don't know how someone that tall is that heavy. | ||
| That's kind of crazy, you know? | ||
| Good for him, man. | ||
| Like an Andrew Reese on our hands for a little bit. | ||
| Well, he wasn't that fat, though. | ||
| He was just jacked. | ||
| Huge, yeah. | ||
| He was just jacked. | ||
| He's just huge. | ||
| You still see it in his legs. | ||
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He's got giant legs. | |
| Yeah, he's still a big boy. | ||
| He's a tough fucking guy, man. | ||
| It's interesting to see this city kickboxing gym, you know, from Stylebender and Dan Hangman Hooker. | ||
| Hangman's a bad motherfucker. | ||
| Yeah, I was a big Hooker fan for a while. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| For a while. | ||
| I've been watching him since he was four. | ||
| When he was in 45, I was watching him. | ||
| He's a beast. | ||
| I was like, we're probably going to end up fighting each other when he was at 45, and he went to 55. And everybody was saying, he's a big 45, and I'm in 55. He makes these 55 guys look small. | ||
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He's pretty jacked. | |
| He's huge. | ||
| Yeah, he's good. | ||
| I love watching their style. | ||
| Yeah, he's had one bad fight where it didn't go his way. | ||
| That was the fight against Barboza, but he stood with Barboza, which is just a fucking terrible idea for most people. | ||
| Barboza kicks so goddamn good. | ||
| He's the fastest switch kicker I've ever seen in my life. | ||
| I've never seen anybody throw a switch kick fast than that guy. | ||
| I never did. | ||
| I watch his fights, and I always try to go to the gym and mimic it. | ||
| I'm like, yeah, I can't be doing this. | ||
| I don't even know how he can balance that fast. | ||
| It's a trap! | ||
| It's a trap! | ||
| He kicks so fast, man. | ||
| And then when he, like, even sometimes when he, like, leg kick people and, like, just even switch kick people to the body and just hit their, his foot land, I'm like, yeah, that can't be that hurtful. | ||
| But when he lands only his foot, I'm like, God, this sucks. | ||
| It hurts. | ||
| It doesn't matter if it's shin or his foot. | ||
| He can fuck you up with just his foot. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, he's got the first wheel kick knockout ever in the UFC. Yeah. | ||
| Against Terry Edom. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| Nobody's going to forget that. | ||
| That was crazy. | ||
| That was the first ever... | ||
| First ever wheel kick knockout. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| All those fights. | ||
| Imagine. | ||
| And in Brazil. | ||
| And then the statue after. | ||
| That was crazy. | ||
| The way he... | ||
| He's a beast, man. | ||
| It's interesting. | ||
| He's the most kick-oriented fighter, I think, in the sport. | ||
| Because you don't see him beating guys down with his hands. | ||
| No. | ||
| All his hands is touches. | ||
| Touch, touch. | ||
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Range range. | |
| Touch, touch, whack. | ||
| Boom! | ||
| And leg kicks. | ||
| And sometimes he chose two leg kicks fast. | ||
| He chose so fast, his kicks is like his jabs. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But then, it's like jazz, but they hurt like streetwriters. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, he stopped Dan Hooker with a punch to the body, but that was because his body was brutalized by those kicks. | ||
| That was the left body kick, right? | ||
| He wasn't? | ||
| He was switch-kicking him first. | ||
| He was switch-kicking him. | ||
| He hit him with a spinning back kick to the body. | ||
| Didn't he make a filter, too, like P-Blood or something? | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| Like a filter said. | ||
| Him and Felder had two wars. | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| He's a really interesting guy. | ||
| It's so many different styles. | ||
| That's one of the cool things about the sport. | ||
| There's so many different ways to do it. | ||
| Genetics, especially him, Moran, Marais, Jose Aldo. | ||
| Look, all Brazilians, guys. | ||
| These guys are fast twitch, stupid muscles. | ||
| Unfair. | ||
| Why are you guys so fast for? | ||
| What did you think? | ||
| Did you watch the Mirai's Aldo fight? | ||
| I was warming up during it, so I kind of got to see, kind of didn't, so I never really watched it. | ||
| Most people are pretty salty on the decision. | ||
| Yeah? | ||
| How do you feel? | ||
| I didn't like it. | ||
| I thought Aldo was pretty good. | ||
| Pressuring him. | ||
| Look, he opened up with a switch kick to the head and had Aldo staggering a little bit. | ||
| But Aldo covered up and weathered the storm. | ||
| And then Aldo started putting the pressure on him. | ||
| And Aldo started hitting him with big punches and really was controlling the center of the octagon and really pressuring him and being very aggressive. | ||
| And then he got taken down the last couple of seconds of the first round, but nothing happened. | ||
| He just took him down and hold him. | ||
| In my mind, that shouldn't mean much. | ||
| That don't mean nothing. | ||
| That doesn't mean anything. | ||
| I get mad about takedowns period in MMA because I don't understand how I can beat somebody up for 4 minutes and 50 seconds and you take me down for the last 10 seconds and you win the round. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| It doesn't make any sense. | ||
| I think you have to take me down and if you're not going to advance, you at least got to ground and palm me for 30 seconds, 40 seconds to make that a legitimately takedown. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| It should be something happens when you go to the ground. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| You got to brutalize the guy or threaten with a submission. | ||
| It's got to be something. | ||
| But with Marlon and Jose Aldo, if they gave that first round to Marlon, it's on the basis of that high kick. | ||
| Some strikes landed, but I thought Aldo did more. | ||
| And I thought Aldo did more in the second round. | ||
| And I thought Aldo won the fight. | ||
| I thought it was close, but I thought Aldo won the fight. | ||
| I thought he was more aggressive. | ||
| Everybody's tripping on his wig. | ||
| He looked good, though. | ||
| I was like, he looked good. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Aldo just have high cheekbones. | ||
| And then he was leaving his facial hair for all fight weeks. | ||
| So people were like, oh my god, he looks scary. | ||
| I'm like, guys, this is how he looks. | ||
| This is his face. | ||
| He's bald too. | ||
| That doesn't help when you have no hair. | ||
| People just think you look crazy already. | ||
| Well, you know, that was the first fight that he ever had a nutritionist for his whole career. | ||
| That's what I heard. | ||
| That is crazy. | ||
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That's crazy. | |
| I told him, like, man, that's what I heard. | ||
| I heard his meals when he was at 45 was just whatever he wanted to eat. | ||
| Like, he felt like eating whatever he wanted to eat. | ||
| He did it. | ||
| I'm like... | ||
| Yeah, that's why this dude is one of the greatest all the time. | ||
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He's an animal. | |
| Well, he ate whatever he wanted and then he just drained the shit out of himself. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| But he had some times during his career where people didn't think he was going to be able to make 45 anymore. | ||
| He's going to have to go up to 55. So then to see him down at 35 was quite crazy. | ||
| But what I saw when I saw him when he was posing and getting ready, I saw muscles. | ||
| It wasn't like he was drawn out. | ||
| You see some guys when they're making a bad weight cut and they just look like shit. | ||
| He just looked ripped. | ||
| No, he looked good. | ||
| He looked real good. | ||
| Even when I saw him... | ||
| What did I see him? | ||
| Alderman Media Day. | ||
| Or whatever. | ||
| Early in the week. | ||
| I even worked out. | ||
| Me and him had the same workout room for one of the nights and we worked out together. | ||
| And when I shook him, I shake hands and pull him in a hug. | ||
| First thing I go back to my class, I was like, guy hard as a rock. | ||
| He's going to make weight. | ||
| When you're that hard and you have muscle, it's much easier to cut water. | ||
| Right. | ||
| When you touch someone and they soft, it's like, yeah, my man. | ||
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I don't know. | |
| How are you going to do this weight cut? | ||
| You know, peace be with you. | ||
| People don't think that, right? | ||
| I mean, we had a conversation about that with, what the fuck is his name? | ||
| It wasn't Dolce. | ||
| It was the other guy. | ||
| I'll remember his name in a minute. | ||
| Lockhart? | ||
| Yes, thank you. | ||
| George Lockhart. | ||
| Sorry, George. | ||
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It's the weed. | |
| I blame the weed. | ||
| But Lockhart was saying that big muscular guys, it's easier. | ||
| It's easier to... | ||
| You can suck water out of someone who's muscular because his muscle is going to let go of water. | ||
| But if you got fat, fat is going to hold on to everything. | ||
| That's why you fat. | ||
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To be honest... | |
| Yeah, you're holding on to everything. | ||
| You're holding on to whatever goes to your body. | ||
| Like, holy shit, what is this? | ||
| Let's just hold on to it. | ||
| Muscle is like, once it's something bad, like muscles won't even hold on to something bad. | ||
| If you eat sugar and you're so muscular, you feel sick. | ||
| It's funny how different guys look on the scale versus the next day. | ||
| Like, Lombard, Was a good example. | ||
| When he would make 170, he'd look so much smaller on the scale, and the next day he'd be like, fuck, is this the same guy? | ||
| It's muscle, yeah. | ||
| And then muscle wants water. | ||
| So when you put water into that bad boy, my gosh, you look like a balloon. | ||
| Carb up, swells up. | ||
| You know Lombard's fighting bare knuckle boxing now? | ||
| No. | ||
| I didn't know. | ||
| Who are you fighting? | ||
| I think he's fighting Joe Riggs. | ||
| What? | ||
| Yeah, I think he's fighting Joe Riggs in a bare knuckle. | ||
| Bare knuckle boxing is weird. | ||
| It's gangster. | ||
| It is gangster, but it's weird how popular it's become. | ||
| Yeah, it's crazy. | ||
| And it's nuts to me, like... | ||
| I think MMA fighters, we do much more than professional boxers inside of it. | ||
| Because professional boxers, like MMA fighters, we're so used to the small 4-ounce gloves that certain slips we know don't work already. | ||
| When you watch and you see a professional ex-boxer go to that bare knuckle thing, And they try to do their shoulder rolls and stuff. | ||
| It don't work because they don't have a glove. | ||
| The little half inch of the glove would bounce off and work. | ||
| But now it's just coming straight to you. | ||
| And you just see people's eyes just go. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| Yeah, there's certain techniques like Floyd Mayweather would employ that just would never work with little gloves. | ||
| It would never work. | ||
| And you can kind of find it in a clinch too, right? | ||
| With bare knuckles. | ||
| Yeah, you can clinch. | ||
| You can clinch. | ||
| You can clinch and punch from inside the clinch. | ||
| You know, other things, kickboxers, the same deal. | ||
| You know, you watch a lot of the top-level kickboxers, they're fighting like this all the time. | ||
| They're completely covering up. | ||
| Even when you go around, you might not get the full glove, you know what I mean? | ||
| But now, the extra pad is not there anymore, so you think you're going to block it, it's coming right through. | ||
| Yep, yep, yep. | ||
| It's interesting. | ||
| What would you think if MMA had no gloves? | ||
| Would you like that? | ||
| Ah, man. | ||
| I got a little small, tiny hand, so I don't know. | ||
| I think it probably screwed up my knuckles. | ||
| I hurt my thumbs almost every fight, so I don't know. | ||
| Did you hurt this fight? | ||
| Before the fight, every fight is just a nagging injury, you know? | ||
| So, like, we always take care of it, this and that, but... | ||
| Do you have to tape it any differently? | ||
| Not really, but I love taping my thumb like a boxer. | ||
| That's the best feeling when you just got something holding. | ||
| Because when we do train, we're in boxing gloves anyway. | ||
| So you always feel something there anyway. | ||
| So when we go to the fight night, it's just kind of weird if I don't tape my thumb. | ||
| I tried not to tape it one time. | ||
| I was like, yeah, no, I gotta tape it. | ||
| Do most guys tape their thumbs or no? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I think it's just preference. | ||
| Personal preference. | ||
| Did you watch the Colby-Usman fight? | ||
| Yeah, I watched a little bit of it. | ||
| Not the whole thing. | ||
| Oh, what'd you think? | ||
| I thought it was crazy. | ||
| Crazy fight, right? | ||
| I thought it was crazy. | ||
| That was a wild fight. | ||
| I like what you said, you know? | ||
| Even though, like... | ||
| Even though Kofi talk like that, most guys that talk like that, act like him, can't fight, he can't fight. | ||
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He can fight. | |
| He can fight. | ||
| He tricks you. | ||
| He does. | ||
| He tricks you into thinking he sucks. | ||
| He's wearing a cheap suit. | ||
| He's carrying around Donald Trump Jr.'s book. | ||
| He's wearing a MAGA hat. | ||
| His suit costs $3. | ||
| He's on the same page. | ||
| He's not reading. | ||
| He's not reading that fucking book. | ||
| Look, I give it up to that guy for a lot of reasons. | ||
| First of all, his back was against the wall. | ||
| The UFC was telling him they're going to cut him after this fight with Damian Maia. | ||
| They don't like his style. | ||
| They think he's boring. | ||
| They literally told that to him. | ||
| So he goes in the ring after the fight, calls Brazilians a bunch of filthy animals, says a bunch of crazy shit, and the next thing you know, he's got this fucking character. | ||
| Oh yeah, for Joe Rogan. | ||
| We were making fun of his suit. | ||
| And next thing you know, he's one of the most popular guys in the fucking sport from talking shit. | ||
| And that was only three fights ago, man. | ||
| It was a massive adjustment. | ||
| Yeah, it's crazy. | ||
| Smart. | ||
| Yeah, it is, you know. | ||
| And at the end of the day, you know, if people ask me, oh, how do you feel like he came out and said that it was like a stick, you know? | ||
| I was like, oh, sure, whatever it is. | ||
| I just told people, like... | ||
| It's him. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Like, it's not me. | ||
| Why am I bothered? | ||
| Why are you guys getting bothered by it? | ||
| Like, let him do it. | ||
| Let the guy water his own. | ||
| Like, he's digging his own grave. | ||
| Let him go dig it. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| He got to live in it now. | ||
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You know? | |
| Like, now he got to live in it. | ||
| Like, I think so at the fighter panel, they asked, oh, why did you laugh when you found out that he outed himself? | ||
| I was like, because it's a storyline. | ||
| You don't see these WWE guys going around and be like, yeah... | ||
| No, they keep their storyline until they go out and then they change it. | ||
| Well, we kind of outed it first. | ||
| We outed it first. | ||
| Me and Brendan Schaub outed it first. | ||
| We told the whole story. | ||
| I would text you and be behind the scenes like, Joe Rogan, guess what? | ||
| I hate you. | ||
| And that's it. | ||
| That's all I leave it at. | ||
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That's it. | |
| And then when it comes back, I don't know what, Jorogan is a lie. | ||
| I would start making lies. | ||
| Jorogan don't even smoke weed. | ||
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That's fake. | |
| He's smoking just regular grass, guys. | ||
| You heard it here first on JRE from Max Allen. | ||
| He's just smoking regular grass, guys. | ||
| Oh, that's hilarious. | ||
| We haven't had a guy that put on a character like that before. | ||
| He's the first. | ||
| Really? | ||
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Yeah, he is. | |
| Chael Sonnen a little bit. | ||
| Chael Sonnen a little bit. | ||
| You know, he kind of put on a little bit of an act like that, but Colby took it to a whole new level. | ||
| I mean, suits, and he's adjusted it over the years. | ||
| Because if you go back and look at the beginning of it, he used to wear nice suits. | ||
| He was wearing like a sweet, a very nice tailored suit, like really expensive. | ||
| Now he's wearing the cheapest shit that he could buy, like blue and orange. | ||
| He's on purpose. | ||
| You know he's doing it on purpose. | ||
| He's wearing cheap suits. | ||
| It's fucking hilarious, man. | ||
| It's hilarious. | ||
| It's terrible. | ||
| And it was a good goddamn fight. | ||
| It was a good fight. | ||
| It was a real close fight. | ||
| Got 50k. | ||
| It was 3-3. | ||
| On two judges' scorecards, they had it 3-1. | ||
| So three rounds to Usman on one judges' score. | ||
| Three rounds to Colby on another judges' scorecard. | ||
| Yeah, it was that goddamn close. | ||
| And 2-2 with the last judge. | ||
| This is another example. | ||
| That would have been crazy. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| But this is another example why we should have more judges. | ||
| We should have more than three judges. | ||
| How much does the Olympic do? | ||
| The boxing? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I think they have eight. | ||
| That would be perfect. | ||
| And then they take whatever scores match, like the top five, whatever, and then they balance it. | ||
| That makes sense. | ||
| Eight's a good number. | ||
| Nine would be a good number because nine would be like a tiebreaker. | ||
| If you had four one way, four another way. | ||
| I feel like three is ridiculous. | ||
| Why do you only have three? | ||
| You know the judges suck already, so why do you only have three people that suck? | ||
| If anybody can change the sport, you can. | ||
| I've tried, man. | ||
| I've tried to eliminate weight cutting. | ||
| I've talked to these guys. | ||
| I've talked to Ari. | ||
| I've talked to Lorenzo. | ||
| I said, let's get rid of weight cutting. | ||
| Get rid of it. | ||
| Do what 1FC is doing. | ||
| Use hydration tests. | ||
| Make everybody fight their natural weight. | ||
| Open up weight classes. | ||
| Make a bunch more. | ||
| Having two weight classes between 185 and 205 is fucking bananas. | ||
| You got a 20-pound jump. | ||
| Yeah, I think we need to open weight. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then even like, one of the most weight things that I hate is like, I don't understand why the champion and the challenger of the champion need to make 45 and then everybody else get the pawn allowance. | ||
| Yeah, what is that? | ||
| That's backwards. | ||
| The champion and the challenger should have the pound lines and everybody else need to make the weight. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Am I not right? | ||
| Or you just be like... | ||
| And if you want to give the champion more love, you just be like, look, champion needs to come in at 46 and the challenger come at 45. That's just... | ||
| How it should be. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| If you're going to cut all that weight, we know you're going to fight for five rounds. | ||
| Give them an extra pound. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But I feel like hydration tests are the way. | ||
| Hydration tests are cool. | ||
| I think it's cool. | ||
| I know a couple guys in the 1FC and stuff, and they do it that way. | ||
| I think that's super dope. | ||
| I bet you could feel better. | ||
| I bet you would feel better. | ||
| And you just walk around and fight. | ||
| But it's crazy because if we do do that, people are just going to try and find a way to finesse it anyway. | ||
| I wonder what they do in 1FC to prevent that. | ||
| I mean, apparently they haven't had an issue with that. | ||
| They test people. | ||
| They make sure that you're not dehydrated. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| So I don't know. | ||
| I have no idea. | ||
| They find them what you weigh. | ||
| They find what you weigh in camp. | ||
| That's what they should do. | ||
| Just show up like one day. | ||
| Hey, Max, what's up? | ||
| Hey, get on the scale, bro. | ||
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You're like, oh, I just ate cake. | |
| Ice cream. | ||
| I ain't back. | ||
| I'm his brother. | ||
| What are you talking about? | ||
| He's at home, I think. | ||
| What's the heaviest you've ever gotten? | ||
| The heaviest I've ever gotten? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| We're in Hollywood. | ||
| I can't be telling you my way right now. | ||
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We're not in Hollywood. | |
| This is Hollywood. | ||
| No, this is Chatsworth. | ||
| We're pretty damn close. | ||
| We're in the valley, bro. | ||
| We're pretty close. | ||
| If you had to guess. | ||
| If I had to guess... | ||
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80? | |
| 180? | ||
| Probably 180. Yeah? | ||
| 80, 85. 85? | ||
| 90. That means 90. That means one... | ||
| It might mean 200 pounds. | ||
| Maybe 210. Who knows? | ||
| You guys really think I over here putting on an act calling out DC? DC! You are eating everything I want to eat! | ||
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You know who the real money fight is, DC! It's me! | |
| I'll fight your ass and then battle you to an all-you-can-eat buffet! | ||
| You let me know! | ||
| Daddest man on the planet right here! | ||
| The daddest man on the planet! | ||
| That is hilarious! | ||
| There's never been a bad motherfucker on the planet with a body like DC. Never. | ||
| Never. | ||
| Because usually those guys are journeymen. | ||
| Usually there's a lot of good fighters that are built like that, but they never really get to be like world class, world championship. | ||
| The world class champion that did what he did. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And continue to do what he's doing. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| When he fought Stipe, he had a big old belly. | ||
| He still cracked in the first round. | ||
| I tease him all the time. | ||
| DC, you can't be using the tights, bro. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You gotta bring your shorts up. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| Use some board shorts. | ||
| You can't be using these tights. | ||
| I tease him all the time. | ||
| I love that guy. | ||
| I love that guy too. | ||
| What do you think is going to happen with them? | ||
| I wonder if Stipe is going to be... | ||
| Stipe apparently is injured. | ||
| He's having a hard time recovering. | ||
| They're trying to do a rematch, but he's got an injury. | ||
| Even if it's not a rematch, are they going to move on from Stipe or no? | ||
| Listen, everybody's scared of Francis. | ||
| Nobody wants a piece of that dude. | ||
| They're like, fuck that. | ||
| Fuck that noise. | ||
| DC told me. | ||
| They offered him Francis. | ||
| He's like, fuck that. | ||
| I don't want nothing to do with Francis Ngannou. | ||
| No thank you, sir. | ||
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No. | |
| He was like, I'm here for Stipe and that's it. | ||
| He goes, I'm in the end of this. | ||
| I got like one or two fights left in me. | ||
| They gotta make sense. | ||
| And he's not interested in that. | ||
| Which, if I was in his corner, I'd be like, thank God you're thinking this way. | ||
| Fuck, that guy's too scary. | ||
| He scares the fuck out of me. | ||
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He's fast. | |
| He's fast as fuck. | ||
| He's super fast for how big he is. | ||
| Super fast as fuck and he nukes dudes. | ||
| When he hit Alistair with that left hook. | ||
| That was crazy. | ||
| That was in Detroit. | ||
| I remember that when I was watching that. | ||
| You see how his head wiggles in the air before he even hits the ground? | ||
| My gosh. | ||
| How many times has Alistair been knocked out? | ||
| I think a lot. | ||
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A lot. | |
| It's been a lot. | ||
| But it doesn't help that you come from the K1 background. | ||
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No. | |
| You're just getting punched so much. | ||
| K1 and pride. | ||
| And then he was always at, what was it, 185, right? | ||
| He was always 185, 205, and heavyweight. | ||
| Now it's like... | ||
| Come on. | ||
| Well, he had a real hard time making 205, if you remember. | ||
| Back when he fought Chuck Liddell, he was real skinny. | ||
| He was smaller, you know? | ||
| And once you get past... | ||
| Once you're 185 and up, it's like everybody can knock on everybody there. | ||
| And once you... | ||
| And once you get knocked out, your brain is going to just keep saving you earlier and earlier. | ||
| Every time. | ||
| Once you get hit a certain way, your brain is going to shut off because it's just trying to save itself. | ||
| And there's nothing you can do. | ||
| That is crazy, right? | ||
| There's no fix for that. | ||
| No fix at all because your brain is just trying to protect yourself. | ||
| I know people who get choked out. | ||
| Who got choked out to sleep, and now you can choke them out easier because the brain is just like, the brain is like, no, yeah. | ||
| I've never seen that with chokes. | ||
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Is that true? | |
| Yeah, I know a couple people. | ||
| Wow, damn. | ||
| That's not good. | ||
| Yeah, they say that chokes, I used to think chokes were a free ride. | ||
| I used to think, no big deal, you just got choked out. | ||
| But now they're saying, no, no, no, no, no. | ||
| Like, chokes give you brain damage. | ||
| For sure! | ||
| You're forcing your body to do something that it doesn't want to do. | ||
| You're shutting your brain off. | ||
| It's telling yourself, look, I'm going to turn everything off before you die. | ||
| And this is it. | ||
| Because if you keep holding it, when you knock out, you're going to kill someone. | ||
| Yeah, you're going to kill someone. | ||
| So your body just be like, okay, look, I'm turning it off now. | ||
| So... | ||
| Let's just hope you recover. | ||
| But they're finding CTE in jiu-jitsu players. | ||
| They're finding it in high-level jiu-jitsu guys. | ||
| I don't think... | ||
| It's from choke, exactly. | ||
| Like, I hit my head... | ||
| All the time. | ||
| I hit my head when I'm grappling and stuff... | ||
| Just as much as getting punched sometimes. | ||
| Sometimes I don't even get punched or need in the head when we're moving and stuff. | ||
| But when you're doing jiu-jitsu and someone tries to take you back or snap you down or you're rolling. | ||
| Collide heads. | ||
| Yeah, or collide heads. | ||
| Or you stay on the top and they're bunking. | ||
| You got a wild child under you and you hit your head. | ||
| Or you get their back. | ||
| A wild child. | ||
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Some people are wild, man. | |
| When they do something, I'm like... | ||
| When I got a wild child, I was like, boom, okay, this is how it's going to end. | ||
| And then if we do it, I'd be like, look, after you tap on it, I'd be like, look, you got to relax, guy. | ||
| Take it easy. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| That's all they have, though. | ||
| If you look at it, this is a cool thing about my team, my coach. | ||
| He will never, ever let me do a jiu-jitsu tournament. | ||
| I keep begging him. | ||
| I'm like, I want to do a jiu-jitsu tournament. | ||
| I want to do a jiu-jitsu tournament. | ||
| He's like, no. | ||
| He's like, I'll let you go do a boxing match if I do a jiu-jitsu tournament. | ||
| I was like, why? | ||
| He's like, because you see all these top MMA fighters, they go to the geese, jiu-jitsu, whatever the tournament is. | ||
| They tear their ACL. They tear their shoulder. | ||
| They get choked out. | ||
| They hit their head. | ||
| They get cut. | ||
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Luke cut his eye in a fight. | |
| A wrestling match. | ||
| Yeah, in a grappling match. | ||
| Like, how? | ||
| It's just freak stuff happen when you're grappling. | ||
| Well, Cub blew his knee out just this weekend. | ||
| Yeah, I heard. | ||
| I mean, he's on a real high note right now. | ||
| Just beat Krohn Gracie. | ||
| Gracie, yeah. | ||
| And he's also 36 with a family. | ||
| So it's like, this guy can't afford to take a fucking year off. | ||
| Yeah, that's why. | ||
| He was locked up in a leg lock with Jake Shields, who's at least 30 pounds bigger than him. | ||
| Jake is a big fella. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And, you know, they're doing that quintet thing where different weights will compete against different guys. | ||
| Shout out to Sean O'Malley. | ||
| I saw him put it on for the UFC team, man. | ||
| Did you see Krause? | ||
| James Krause caught King Mo in a standing guillotine? | ||
| No! | ||
| Krause is really underrated, man. | ||
| Krause is a beast. | ||
| I like Krause. | ||
| I like him a lot. | ||
| Very, very smart guy. | ||
| Really nice guy, too. | ||
| Yeah, real nice guy. | ||
| I like him. | ||
| He was in the workout room, too, that week. | ||
| I thought he was fighting, but no, he was just doing the grappling, so that's cool. | ||
| Yeah, so Jake Shields tapped out Mark Munoz, and then he got him in an arm triangle, a head and arm choke, and then he was in the middle of the scramble with Cub, and he had Cub's leg laced up with a heel-hook position, but it didn't apply heel-hook. | ||
| They were just in the middle of a transition, moving. | ||
| And Cub just like, ah! | ||
| And he just rolls over on his back. | ||
| You know better than everybody that once you get there and you go the wrong way, your leg stays there. | ||
| Yeah, that's Kraus tapping King Mo with a standing guillotine. | ||
| This guy is a beast. | ||
| Yeah, grappling is not... | ||
| It's not a safe bet. | ||
| I can't believe that these guys who are fighting in the UFC for a career would be willing to risk that because you really can get fucked up, man. | ||
| You really can get really badly hurt. | ||
| Like, jam your finger? | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| You know how many times I hurt my... | ||
| Doing... | ||
| With my role with jiu-jitsu and my role with kickboxing, I have way more injuries in doing straight jiu-jitsu than kickboxing training. | ||
| Really? | ||
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100%. | |
| Wow, that's crazy. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| Well, I feel like it's easier to go light when you're kickboxing. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Yeah, because you can control it, you know? | ||
| Right. | ||
| And nobody wants to get knocked out. | ||
| In jiu-jitsu and stuff, it's like... | ||
| It's like, oh, you can probably put someone to sleep or break their arm, but, like, you gotta be pretty good with your partner. | ||
| Like, some guys, like, you know certain guys, like, yeah, if they get this arm, they're gonna fucking take it home. | ||
| I'm not gonna give it to you. | ||
| Oh, there's always guys like that that I would keep rolling with. | ||
| Like, why? | ||
| Some guys just fucking, they go so hard. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And they hurt people. | ||
| Some guys are hurt. | ||
| They hurt people. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Some guys are always hurt. | ||
| You always hear, ah! | ||
| You look over. | ||
| Oh, it's Mike. | ||
| Motherfucker. | ||
| Getting people in arm bars. | ||
| Combat sports are... | ||
| It's wild. | ||
| It's so hard to train correctly. | ||
| If everything was great, you would have full control. | ||
| Your opponent would have full control. | ||
| You guys would spar correctly. | ||
| Everybody would learn and grow. | ||
| You'd have great training. | ||
| But it's so hard to find good training. | ||
| It's an eagle. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's how I love my teammates when I'm getting ready for fights. | ||
| Whenever we got to mimic guys, even though sometimes it's horrible. | ||
| Sometimes some guys, you got to train a certain way and spar me and give me a certain look, and they're getting it, and they know if they just go back to their normal style, they give me more competitive sparring, they still do it. | ||
| And I tell them after every practice, I'm like, guy, thank you. | ||
| Don't worry, when it's your fight, I'm going to take my ass off too. | ||
| I'm going to pay you back, my friend. | ||
| What's the weirdest style you ever had to prepare for? | ||
| What fighter do you think was the most difficult to prepare for in terms of getting ready for their style? | ||
| I think so. | ||
| It was... | ||
| What is his name? | ||
| Will Chope. | ||
| The one that I started the win streak on. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He was so tall. | ||
| He was like 6'4". | ||
| Who do you get ready for? | ||
| Everybody I know that was 6'4 or something is already 200 pounds. | ||
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Right. | |
| 190 pounds, 200 pounds. | ||
| This guy's like... | ||
| 6'4", 145 is crazy. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You know, and it was crazy. | ||
| And then, like, I remember, like, going in there, and I was, like, trying to hit him, and he's just, like, jabbing me. | ||
| And I'm like, what is going on? | ||
| Like, how is this guy so tall right now? | ||
| Like, what is he doing? | ||
| Like, how is he hitting me from this far? | ||
| You know, and that probably was the weirdest one, I think. | ||
| Well, it's interesting to see long, tall guys and the use of distance. | ||
| If someone's really good and they're long and tall, that is such a giant advantage. | ||
| Like, John Jones is the best at it. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| He's the best at it. | ||
| Super, super smart. | ||
| He's so good at using that length, though. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| He keeps everybody out there. | ||
| And then, boom, when he wants, he hits you. | ||
| Boom, boom. | ||
| And then... | ||
| He does the jujitsu way. | ||
| He's either all the way in or all the way out. | ||
| He's either on you or he's off of you. | ||
| He's never ever put himself in stupid positions where you might get a shot on him. | ||
| I'm really interested to see what Dominic Reyes can do with him. | ||
| Very interested to see. | ||
| He's got to rise to the occasion because he had some rough moments with OSP who also had a real good fight with Jon Jones. | ||
| A lot of people don't You know, OSP's a beast. | ||
| Big, strong guy. | ||
| Very powerful. | ||
| Genetics. | ||
| Yeah, and excellent striking power. | ||
| Especially with his left leg and his left hand. | ||
| He fucks people up. | ||
| He's got a nasty power left kick, man. | ||
| But, you know, he struggled with OSP a little bit. | ||
| Particularly in the middle of the fight, OSP hit him with a good shot. | ||
| And then he knocked OSP out. | ||
| He should have got credited for a knockout in that fight. | ||
| Because Dominic knocked him out with like two seconds to go. | ||
| And he walked off. | ||
| I mean, the referee didn't stop the fight. | ||
| And he's like, no, you got to get up. | ||
| You got to get up. | ||
| He's like, what are you? | ||
| He's out, man. | ||
| And then the buzzer rang. | ||
| And then they just called it a decision. | ||
| They gave it to him by decision. | ||
| But the fight should have been stopped. | ||
| I mean, it was a knockout. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| He knocked him out. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| Well, it's just one of those things. | ||
| It's like, you know, the referee's call. | ||
| Yeah, and we see what happens, you know? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We all know John Jones is different, you know? | ||
| Yeah, he's a different animal. | ||
| Yeah, just different. | ||
| He's the goal. | ||
| Even though when you see him and you see him looking kind of normal and stuff, he just... | ||
| He always finds a way. | ||
| Yeah, he just finds a way, you know? | ||
| That looking normal is a trick. | ||
| Yeah, like when he takes pictures of himself looking skinny fat. | ||
| Don't let that shit fool you. | ||
| That's Jon Jones. | ||
| Even Skinny Fat will fuck you up. | ||
| He's so strong, too. | ||
| I bet. | ||
| You want to talk genetics. | ||
| His whole family is super athletes. | ||
| All of his brothers are super athletes. | ||
| All of them. | ||
| Can you imagine that? | ||
| One guy is the greatest light heavyweight champion of all time, the youngest ever to win a world title in the UFC. The other two brothers are NFL superstars. | ||
| What the fuck is in the water at the Jones house? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| That's some serious fucking genetics over there. | ||
| And also, I think when you grow up with two bad motherfuckers as brothers, you know you're beating the shit out of each other all the time. | ||
| Especially when you're youngest. | ||
| You know he was getting it. | ||
| Yeah, they're all beating. | ||
| That's probably why he became a fighter. | ||
| He's like, yeah, you guys go do this shit. | ||
| I'm going to get you guys back. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And they talk shit about each other. | ||
| And then when they do it, and then when they come, if I was John, I would just tell them, what are you going to do? | ||
| Tackle me? | ||
| That shit ain't going to work? | ||
| Well, his brother's training MMA too. | ||
| Yeah, okay. | ||
| They train in between. | ||
| Well, his brother, Arthur, is fucking gigantic. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| That dude's so big. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Chandler's huge, too. | ||
| Chandler's huge, too. | ||
| Chandler's talking shit about John. | ||
| It's like, if I fought in MMA, I'd fuck him up. | ||
| And they're like, oh, shit. | ||
| They talk shit to each other like that. | ||
| Yeah, they're brothers. | ||
| They're supposed to. | ||
| That's what they're supposed to do. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| But then when they go home, I bet you John'd be like, yeah, okay, Chandler. | ||
| Put up that contract. | ||
| I see how much you're making. | ||
| I'll fight your ass right here. | ||
| Let's go on JRE to get a fight. | ||
| It really is a crazy successful athletic family. | ||
| I don't know of any other family that has NFL superstars and a world champion combat sports athlete. | ||
| I can't think of another family like that. | ||
| That's great. | ||
| Life's not fair when it comes to things like that. | ||
| When it comes to genetics, life is not fair. | ||
| You just gotta work with it. | ||
| You gotta work with what you got. | ||
| When you had that situation happen where they were running a bunch of tests on you, they couldn't figure out what was wrong with you, what do you think was going on? | ||
| You know, what was funny was that July fight, when we was getting ready, it was in Vegas, right? | ||
| I had to fly to New York. | ||
| To do my media day. | ||
| So from Hawaii to New York. | ||
| 12 hours. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then we did a 12-hour media. | ||
| And then we went to Vegas. | ||
| I think I got to Vegas on Thursday. | ||
| And then, you know, I just fell out of it. | ||
| And you were cutting weight at the time, too? | ||
| Not really cutting weight. | ||
| It was dieting and stuff. | ||
| Not yet? | ||
| And, like, everybody, even the water thing. | ||
| I drank the load of water fight week. | ||
| Even before the fight, you know? | ||
| We drank the load of water, you know? | ||
| And at the end of the day, like, a couple days passed. | ||
| And it just wasn't going away, you know? | ||
| And then, you know? | ||
| How did you feel? | ||
| I can tell you exactly what it was. | ||
| It's something we consumed. | ||
| Right now, not that much people know that I left my own management. | ||
| I'm with new management now. | ||
| My manager now, he's like a behavioral science guy. | ||
| He's probably watching the stream right now squirming while I'm talking about it. | ||
| We got stuff going on. | ||
| We got a bunch of... | ||
| I'm looking to work with lawyers and stuff, and we plan on suing somebody. | ||
| There's a bunch of stuff that I really can't talk about. | ||
| That's why he's squirming back there. | ||
| I probably shouldn't be talking about it too much, but that's about it. | ||
| It was something that I consumed. | ||
| Like a supplement? | ||
| I don't even know if I can tell you. | ||
| It'll come out in the wash. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| Well, let me know. | ||
| I will. | ||
| When is this all supposed to be settled out? | ||
| We see. | ||
| I just left that to him. | ||
| One of the great things that I love with the team is that For me, I'm all about keeping the main thing the main thing. | ||
| And the main thing for me is fighting and making sure whoever's in front of me, whatever cupcake it is, I can enjoy that cupcake while they go do everything else for me. | ||
| And you don't have to think about anything else. | ||
| Nothing at all. | ||
| That's beautiful. | ||
| That's the way to do it. | ||
| If you can have a good team, people that train themselves, I'm like, you can't do that. | ||
| I talk to them, I talk to my team. | ||
| I love the chaos. | ||
| I love chaos around me a little bit. | ||
| But then they make it so simple. | ||
| And it's great, but I kind of like to put myself like, I like when things ain't in order, you know? | ||
| When you come to my house, I love that my room is messy. | ||
| People might trip out and be like, you have a messy room. | ||
| I'm like, yeah, but I have somebody come clean it later on. | ||
| But I just love the chaos. | ||
| You like being messy? | ||
| You got to be a little bit messy, you know, just to keep me sane. | ||
| If I'm too clean, I'm like, things are going too well. | ||
| Things is going too good. | ||
| It's like a fight week thing. | ||
| If something doesn't go wrong fight week, I'm like, nope. | ||
| This shit ain't happening to me. | ||
| I'm going to screw something up right now just so we got it. | ||
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Really? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Do you like things going perfect? | ||
| Don't it feel weird when everything goes perfect? | ||
| I guess I'm just different. | ||
| No, that is a different way of looking at things that you like a little bit of chaos. | ||
| I like a little bit of chaos, for sure. | ||
| I like to know that there's no... | ||
| I feel like I'm a very, very, very fortunate person. | ||
| And I like to know that things are crazy and random so I can appreciate my fortune. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You know what I mean? | ||
| 100%. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| That I'm lucky. | ||
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Exactly. | |
| I love that life is so unpredictable and strange. | ||
| Life is like MMA. MMA is unpredictable. | ||
| The most unpredictable thing. | ||
| And that's why I love it. | ||
| That's why it's so comparable. | ||
| That's why a lot of people can kind of compare it. | ||
| They kind of get it, but they don't. | ||
| Fighting is in their DNA. Everybody, once they're like, I can't watch this fight, this and that, I'm like, I don't know what you're talking about, because this is like a combat, like, we're licensed. | ||
| We're like, licensed fighters, this is like, it's not the gladiator days of people, like, cutting each other's head off, like, no, take his life! | ||
| No, it's not! | ||
| It's a sport. | ||
| Yeah, we're past these days, you know, so, at the end of the day, it's just, when they actually, I get it, I I always, like my fans, a bunch of my fans, like old people, even moms. | ||
| Moms always chip out. | ||
| I work out. | ||
| They come to the gym. | ||
| They see me work out. | ||
| They actually talk to me. | ||
| They're like, oh, wow. | ||
| I didn't think you was like this or whatever. | ||
| I thought you was like this guy, just an asshole and blah, blah, blah because I was a fighter. | ||
| I was like, no. | ||
| We're human beings. | ||
| What are you talking about? | ||
| I'm just like you. | ||
| Well, people think of cage fighters. | ||
| They think of like the most aggressive, the meanest, nastiest people in the world. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's the weirdest thing about fighters in the UFC. They're the nicest people. | ||
| Cowboy Cerrone is one of the nicest fucking people I know. | ||
| He hugs everybody. | ||
| He's a sweetheart. | ||
| He's fucking nice to everybody. | ||
| He's one of the baddest motherfuckers ever. | ||
| He's just so nice. | ||
| And Gano's a really nice guy. | ||
| He is. | ||
| He's super cool. | ||
| Big, giant, scary motherfucker. | ||
| Super nice. | ||
| Real friendly. | ||
| You know, Cain Velasquez, real nice guy. | ||
| Cain, yeah. | ||
| Real nice guy. | ||
| Cain looks the most scary. | ||
| Him and Nagano. | ||
| If you saw him and Nagano in a dark alley, they're coming to you. | ||
| Hey, what you doing? | ||
| You wouldn't think they're not going to help you. | ||
| Yeah, you wouldn't think they're going to be your buddies. | ||
| But they'd be like, hey, what's up? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, fighters don't have anything to prove. | ||
| Most men that run around in society, especially men that don't train or know how to fight, they feel like they have a lot to prove. | ||
| They're always puffing their chest out and talking loud. | ||
| There's a lot of that with men, particularly with men who don't know how to fight. | ||
| But fighters, if you're a UFC fighter, man, you've proved it. | ||
| You don't need to impress people. | ||
| And also, you're fucking tired from training all the time, too. | ||
| Oh, yeah, 100%. | ||
| 100%, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, I know exactly what you mean. | ||
| Everybody always tells me, like, all my friends, whenever they bring new guys around or new friends that's hanging out, they're, like, asking me about fighting and this and that. | ||
| Like, they're so, like, cool. | ||
| They're like, oh, what about this? | ||
| What about that? | ||
| I'm like... | ||
| Guy, what do you do for work? | ||
| It's like construction. | ||
| I'm like, well, how's your job site going right now? | ||
| How's the fork? | ||
| How's your concrete prices going up? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| They're like, I don't want to talk about that. | ||
| I was like, exactly. | ||
| I don't want to talk about fighting, guys. | ||
| Please, please don't talk about fighting to me. | ||
| I know, but you got to understand that someone's a fan of yours. | ||
| They're running to you like, it's Max. | ||
| Oh shit, Max. | ||
| And they just want to talk to you. | ||
| Yeah, then they just laugh and they find out like, look, we actually have a lot more in common than fighting, you know? | ||
| Like, let's go freaking go race some cars or something. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Do something fun. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What do you do when you're not in camp? | ||
| Like now, now that the fight's over, you get a chance to unwind for a while. | ||
| What's a typical Max Holloway day like? | ||
| I just lounge around, wait for Mini Bless. | ||
| Maybe if he's playing sports, take him to sports. | ||
| He's been liking K1 Speed lately, so we've been going racing. | ||
| We just got a roller rink in Hawaii. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| Yeah, like a roller rink. | ||
| Like an actual roller rink. | ||
| We had ice skating forever. | ||
| We got a roller rink. | ||
| You guys have had ice skating forever in Honolulu? | ||
| Yeah, in there. | ||
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That's hilarious. | |
| In Pro City, in Oahu. | ||
| Now we got a roller rink. | ||
| Me and Mini and a bunch of my friends, we'd be going every day. | ||
| We'd be trying to get our roll bounce on. | ||
| In camp, I really can't do it because I don't want to fall out and break my butt or something or a finger. | ||
| So now we can kind of play around more. | ||
| Just do fun stuff. | ||
| I don't have to go to the gym too much. | ||
| I don't feel bad too if I do miss the gym. | ||
| My coaches kind of let me off for one or two weeks or so. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We just hang out. | ||
| Nice to just unwind. | ||
| Oh yeah, go to the beach, just chill. | ||
| And just being able to just go to near 7-Eleven and just get on a Slurpee and drink whatever you want. | ||
| Drink whatever you want, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then, a couple weeks after the fight, then you start batting down the hatches again. | ||
| Oh yeah, getting right back into it, training. | ||
| And then you start talking to your manager, like, what's next? | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| I call him, I let him know, I tell him, we plan and kind of have an idea. | ||
| We kind of have an idea now because ever since we heard Dana talking about it, he didn't hit us up yet. | ||
| What did Dana say? | ||
| He said at the press conference that he wanted me and Alex in, what is that called? | ||
| In Australia. | ||
| I just don't know when. | ||
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Beautiful. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Beautiful. | ||
| Down under. | ||
| I never went, so that'd be cool. | ||
| Yeah, Australia's great. | ||
| I love it there. | ||
| I've never been to New Zealand. | ||
| I want to go to New Zealand, but fuck, I love Australia. | ||
| People are so cool. | ||
| It's a great place. | ||
| You know, it's relaxed, man. | ||
| There's only 20 million people, and it's a place the size of the entire United States. | ||
| For real? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I didn't know that. | ||
| There's less people in the whole of Australia than in LA. That's crazy. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| That is crazy. | ||
| California as a whole has way more people than Australia. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| Way more. | ||
| Yeah, but LA has more people than Australia. | ||
| And if you have a census, those fucking people that have a census, oh, the census says there's only 20 million people. | ||
| Bitch, you're not counting Mexicans. | ||
| You are not counting Mexicans. | ||
| You're never going to count them. | ||
| They come over here. | ||
| They're sneaking around. | ||
| They're doing whatever they want to do. | ||
| I'm happy they're here, but you don't know how many there are. | ||
| I'm happy they're here. | ||
| I'm happy they're here. | ||
| You know where we're going after this? | ||
| Dollar tacos, baby. | ||
| Dude, there's a great place over here. | ||
| I'll show you a place. | ||
| Yeah, tell us. | ||
| There's this burrito spot. | ||
| Legit as fuck. | ||
| They got all those Mexican soap operas playing. | ||
| Nobody speaks English. | ||
| Fucking Mexican food off the charts. | ||
| So good. | ||
| Some horchata. | ||
| Look, I'm a giant fan. | ||
| Mexican food is probably my favorite food. | ||
| But my point is, they don't know how many are here. | ||
| There could be another 10 million. | ||
| There might be 30 million people here. | ||
| They have no idea. | ||
| Either way, it's more than the whole of Australia. | ||
| Definitely. | ||
| That's heavy. | ||
| That's heavy. | ||
| But that's why Australia is so cool. | ||
| They're not all stressed out. | ||
| There's too many people together in one spot. | ||
| I was driving here today and some dude cut me off. | ||
| When we was driving here, someone just like, the hair just cut us off. | ||
| I was like, welcome to LA, baby. | ||
| They're tense. | ||
| They did a study once where they set cameras up on one side of the street and then on another side of the street. | ||
| And they measured the distance between the two cameras. | ||
| And they measured how fast people were walking from one camera to the next. | ||
| And through the speed of their walking, they could determine accurately how many people live in the city. | ||
| So it's a direct response to too many people. | ||
| People start moving faster and more aggressive and more tense and they walk faster. | ||
| You could literally set a camera up on a block and within a couple of hours they could tell you how many people live in that city just by how fast they walk. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| Crazy? | ||
| Technology is nuts. | ||
| Also how fast they talk. | ||
| Yeah, that's crazy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| Yeah, technology is insane. | ||
| Thank you, brother. | ||
| Do you need to blow your nose? | ||
| Nah, after. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| What happened? | ||
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He saw something. | |
| James saw something I didn't see. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| You clever bastard. | ||
| Smart. | ||
| Yeah, no, technology is amazing. | ||
| But that's just, you know, you live in Oahu? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There's a lot of people in Honolulu, right? | ||
|
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Oh, yes. | |
| That's like a million people, right? | ||
| I live in Waianae. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| So if you put that camera you're talking about in Waianae, people are less stressful. | ||
| We just be chilling. | ||
| People would be walking slowly. | ||
| They'd be like, oh my gosh, people's living it over here. | ||
| They're loving it. | ||
| That video of you that they play where you were a really young kid, where you were just getting into fighting. | ||
| I was 15 years old. | ||
| I was 11th grade. | ||
| We shot that when I was 11th grade. | ||
| And that's when MySpace was popping. | ||
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Wow. | |
| MySpace. | ||
| Did you have a MySpace? | ||
| I had a MySpace. | ||
| Who was in your top eight? | ||
| My old trainer at the time. | ||
| My boy who got me into fighting, Josh Keanu. | ||
| One of my friends, Birdie Bird. | ||
| This guy named Shaysan Lopolo. | ||
| My older brother and my younger brother. | ||
| One of my cousins and then another cousin. | ||
| I remember my whole top 8. And then you got to change to top 16 and 24. And you started getting wild. | ||
| And then people was getting mad when you top 8. Like, who is 1? | ||
| Who is 2? | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| And I make the 16 one. | ||
| I'm like, bro, you should just be happy you're on there. | ||
| Right, people get mad. | ||
| Yeah, people get mad. | ||
| It was crazy. | ||
| Everybody wanted to be your number one. | ||
| Yeah, but then what's funny about that video, because at the end of that video, they showed, in the countdown, they showed me saying, like, if you're a loser, it's like, if you try, at least you win in your book, you know, whatever, that loser quote. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That quote was, like, on people's bios, you know, like, the bio, you know, you could put a quote or whatever, a status, and that was people's bios, so I was like, yeah, your boy made it, because then... | ||
| They did it for... | ||
| They made... | ||
| That was a national... | ||
| It won nationally. | ||
| It was for the STN Awards. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| When the schools come up and they do stuff and whatever. | ||
| It's here in California whenever they do. | ||
| And I was supposed to go. | ||
| That was my 11th grade year and I was kind of mad that I wasn't able to get it, but... | ||
| It was just cool. | ||
| It's got to be weird looking at yourself when you're 15, talking about, you know... | ||
| Oh yeah, sup brada? | ||
| That's how I was talking. | ||
| It's terrible. | ||
| My accent was like... | ||
| I still have an accent, but... | ||
| I still talk mok a lot, but like... | ||
| You still what would you say? | ||
| Do you talk what? | ||
| Talk mok. | ||
| Mok? | ||
| Yeah, mok is like... | ||
| Or pigeon. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Is when like... | ||
| Actually, I can talk two languages. | ||
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I can talk... | |
| Pigeon is actually a language now. | ||
| Is it really? | ||
| Yeah, they made a language. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah, Google it. | ||
| How much different is it, like if you were going to say something to Jamie, like if you were going to say, Jamie, hey Jamie, my car is coming soon, I got to get the fuck out of here. | ||
| I'd be like, oh, what's up you fucker, where's my car? | ||
| Oh, that's normal. | ||
| What's up you fucker, where's my car? | ||
| That sounds like you're from here. | ||
| Hawaii is a strange place because I feel like it should be its own country. | ||
| I really do. | ||
| But I like the fact that it's protected by the United States. | ||
| You know Dana had to approve me walking out with my flag. | ||
| Really? | ||
| They wasn't going to let me walk out with the Hawaiian flag. | ||
| Why? | ||
| In Vegas? | ||
| When I first started doing it. | ||
| What? | ||
| Because that's when the Reebok came out. | ||
| I couldn't put a Hawaiian flag on my shorts or anything. | ||
| So I was like, I'm going to walk out the flag and then Reebok was stopping it. | ||
| They was like, you can't because it's a state flag. | ||
| What does that have to do with anything? | ||
| Yeah, and then I was like, what? | ||
| I was like, no, no, no. | ||
| We could talk to Dana. | ||
| So you could come out with, like if you're from Nigeria, you can come out with a country flag? | ||
| Yeah, only country flag. | ||
| Yeah, no state flag. | ||
| And then Dana White then talked to Dana then and they told me, they was like, Dana texted me and he said, yeah, that's stupid as shit, kid. | ||
| Just walk with it. | ||
| It was like, come on. | ||
| Let this kid represent Hawaii. | ||
| Like how you said, because he said Hawaii is like their own people. | ||
| Just let them represent. | ||
| And then they did it. | ||
| It's five hours in a plane across the ocean. | ||
| That shit is barely America. | ||
| Hawaii is amazing. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| It's one of my favorite places to visit. | ||
| I go there three, four times a year. | ||
| I love Hawaii. | ||
| But that is not America. | ||
| I love that they're protected by America. | ||
| I love that they have all the rights. | ||
| I love all that, but... | ||
| I feel very strongly that they should have their own. | ||
| It should be sovereign. | ||
| It's their own thing, man. | ||
| How the fuck are you going to claim something that it takes five hours to get to on a plane that's not even attached? | ||
| Fuck it. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| But again, I love that it's protected by America. | ||
| I love that we're considered to be from the same country. | ||
| I love all that. | ||
| But every time I go to Hawaii, I'm like, come on, man. | ||
| This is their own place. | ||
| People just differ in here. | ||
| They're Hawaiians. | ||
| Like, if you go to North Dakota, you can't look at someone and go, oh, that's a North Dakotan. | ||
| Right? | ||
| You go to Hawaii, you're like, oh, that dude's Hawaiian. | ||
| That's a Hawaiian guy. | ||
| You know, Polynesian. | ||
| I mean, there's so many people in Hawaii that they're clearly Hawaiian. | ||
| You know? | ||
| 100%. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, there's no state like that. | ||
| There's no other state. | ||
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Zero. | |
| Well, you look at them. | ||
| 101. Like even Alaska! | ||
| Alaska, you don't look at someone... | ||
| I mean, they have a full beard, flannel coat, fucking moose leg over their shoulder. | ||
| Maybe that's in Alaska. | ||
| But you're guessing. | ||
| He might have moved there. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He might just be a mountain man and moved there. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| It's a great place, though. | ||
| There's a thing about Hawaiians that they have like a... | ||
| When you're on an island and you're surrounded by ocean, there's like a reverence for nature that Hawaiians have that I really like. | ||
| Yeah, you never see my Hiker Holloway? | ||
| What is that? | ||
| Hiker Holloway. | ||
| Hiker Holloway? | ||
| Yeah, I got a YouTube. | ||
| We got a guy named Hiker Holloway. | ||
| Who's Hiker Holloway? | ||
| You're looking at the man. | ||
| You? | ||
| You have a YouTube video where you just hike? | ||
| Hiker Holloway. | ||
| Oh, look at this! | ||
| There it is! | ||
| Hiker Holloway surviving in the middle of this. | ||
| What the fuck is this? | ||
| Oh, this is the shit you did recently. | ||
|
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| You did this in Vegas, right? | ||
|
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| This is Red Rock Cannon. | ||
| Isn't that funny that Red Rock, like, just outside of Vegas, it's like a whole other world. | ||
| Like, you might as well be on Mars. | ||
| Yeah, it is. | ||
| It looks like Mara. | ||
| It's just crazy. | ||
| But I just give you survival tips and all that stuff. | ||
| Go to YouTube, guys. | ||
| I break down plants. | ||
| There's a plant that you probably see in there. | ||
| What plant? | ||
| It's called a ladder tree, but you need to go and see stuff. | ||
| Do you actually know what you're talking about? | ||
| You're just talking shit. | ||
| You gotta go see it for yourself. | ||
| Okay, I'll check it out. | ||
| Hiker Holloway surviving in the wilderness. | ||
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All Max S. Max S. All Max is coming to me live and direct, my friend. | |
| I like it. | ||
| All Max is. | ||
| Do you surf? | ||
| A little bit. | ||
| A little bit? | ||
| You have to surf. | ||
| He's from Hawaii, right? | ||
| Yeah, a little bit. | ||
| They get mad if you don't. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| I mean, the countdown people came, they shot, and they didn't get me on the best waves. | ||
| I was like, wow. | ||
| I was like, guys, I caught at least 20 waves, and you guys put the four that I sucked on? | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| What are we doing? | ||
| They're doing that on purpose. | ||
| What are we doing here? | ||
| They're doing that on purpose. | ||
| They're trying to say he's not great at everything. | ||
| Or I could have actually only caught that four waves and I could be lying. | ||
| So we don't know what you're doing. | ||
| I'm going to keep you guys up to you guys and keep it guessing. | ||
| Surfing is an interesting thing, right? | ||
| Because you're in their world. | ||
| You're in the water world. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| So, I know all the big wave surfers and Makul Rothman, and they always tell me, or even when I see my friends that are surfing, Zeke Lau, Keanu Singh, and they come up to me and they tell me, man, fighting is so crazy. | ||
| I'm like, guy! | ||
| Surfing is crazy. | ||
| And they're like, no, fighting is crazy. | ||
| I was like, guy, I'm fighting with a human being and I kind of can control what they do at certain times and what I do and this and that. | ||
| Like, when you're surfing, you're fighting Mother Nature, my guy. | ||
| Like, you fall off your board. | ||
| And if Mother Nature just feels like, I'm just going to throw you three times, you're going to get thrown three times, bro. | ||
| Did you see that video that Dana put up on his Instagram recently? | ||
| The one of the big That was on Maui, I think. | ||
| I think that was on Maui. | ||
| That was a big wave contest. | ||
| That's like a 50-foot wave that dude got smashed by. | ||
| Is that guy alright? | ||
| I think he's fine. | ||
| Yeah, I didn't know. | ||
| I just saw that. | ||
| I saw it because Dana posted. | ||
| I saw a bunch of my surfing friends post it. | ||
| That is the number one nightmare. | ||
| This guy gets on the board and right away he's slipping and just goes down immediately. | ||
| Watch this shit. | ||
| Here it goes. | ||
| Boom! | ||
| Look how small the board looked to that wave. | ||
| The weight of that water. | ||
| And he's got one of those vests on where you pop up, right? | ||
| Yeah, but that's the next thing I was going to bring up. | ||
| Yeah, you got to pop up a vest, but I talked to my friend and stuff that does some of this. | ||
| You don't know if it's going to pop when you go under the water. | ||
| What if it malfunctions? | ||
| Look at him wiping there. | ||
|
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Boom! | |
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| Small his board look to the wall. | ||
| God, it looks like nothing. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| That is probably a 50-foot wave. | ||
| That is fucking crazy. | ||
| That is terrible. | ||
| I'm so scared. | ||
| And that's a real surfer. | ||
| That's a real professional. | ||
| Yeah, that's a contest that just happened. | ||
| Oh, fuck. | ||
| So my buddy, Kenny, he just went to Texas, in Waco, Texas. | ||
| They got one of those indoor wave things. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| In Waco, Texas. | ||
| So he said it was amazing. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| So he's flying into Texas. | ||
| He gets off the airplane. | ||
| He's got fucking surfboards, him and his buddies. | ||
| And everybody's going, looking at them. | ||
| What are you doing? | ||
| You're at the wrong place, man. | ||
| You took the wrong flight. | ||
| Before this fight, I was harassing Kelly. | ||
| Kelly Slater? | ||
| Yeah, Kelly was at Pipe. | ||
| He was hitting me up and he was doing something. | ||
| So he was calling me, seeing what I was doing. | ||
| I was in camp, so I couldn't meet him. | ||
| And I told him I was harassing him. | ||
| I was like, I'm coming to the surf ranch. | ||
| He's like, let me know. | ||
| We go to the surf ranch. | ||
| I want to go to his surf ranch. | ||
| That's up here, right? | ||
| That's a couple hours from here. | ||
| Yeah, a couple hours from here. | ||
| His one is in California. | ||
| Yeah, where's his near? | ||
| It's near Fresno or something like that? | ||
| Central Valley, so... | ||
| Central Valley? | ||
| So that's like two hours from here or so? | ||
| Something like that? | ||
| Maybe three or four. | ||
| Three? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, that looks amazing, man. | ||
|
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So much fun. | |
| That's a way to learn how to surf. | ||
|
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We gotta go. | |
| That's dope. | ||
| Bro, I can't even wakeboard. | ||
| Wakeboarding is harder. | ||
| Is it? | ||
| Yeah, because you've got to get your ass up on the thing, at least. | ||
| This one you can paddle and kind of stand up. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| Wakeboarding is kind of hard. | ||
| Yeah, it is hard. | ||
| But you're an athlete. | ||
| You can do everything. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| With time. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't have time to get into surfing. | ||
| My fear of surfing... | ||
| Look, this is the machine. | ||
| This is him surfing with this thing. | ||
| Fucking how crazy is that? | ||
| You can learn how to surf so much quicker this way. | ||
| You know, because you don't have to fuck with all the things that everybody else has to fuck with, like waiting for waves. | ||
| You could, look at that. | ||
| Look at riding that tube. | ||
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That's so dope. | |
| That's so crazy. | ||
| No sharks, right? | ||
| Good point. | ||
| Very good point, Jamie. | ||
| No turtles. | ||
| No nothing. | ||
| No nothing. | ||
| Yeah, but it's just you learn. | ||
| It's all about the balance, right? | ||
|
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| Like learning the balance. | ||
| They say that riding that wave is a little bit different, though. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| Yeah, it's a little bit different from like a normal wave. | ||
| It feels a little bit different. | ||
| Like running on a treadmill versus running on the street? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, I think so the power of the wave is a little bit more different than how it actually feels. | ||
| Yeah, a little more predictable. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, that's what it is. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Fuck. | ||
| It seems like a good hack though, right? | ||
| Yeah, it is a good hack. | ||
| I would love to. | ||
| Well, if you're a guy like Kelly or Shane Dorian, someone who really knows how to surf, that's probably good practice. | ||
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You just need practice. | |
| Yeah, just practice. | ||
| Just stay on it. | ||
| How much do you think it costs to make one of those things? | ||
| Oh, a bunch. | ||
| That's got to be expensive as fuck. | ||
| It's a bunch. | ||
| And then you need the motor or whatever that's going to... | ||
| That thing, it looks like a train is pushing. | ||
| Oh, it must be. | ||
| You see the side of it? | ||
| The one that they have in Waco is supposed to be bigger than that, even. | ||
| The one they have in Waco is supposed to be gigantic. | ||
| What are you laughing at, Jamie? | ||
| It's not cheap to visit. | ||
| How much does it cost? | ||
| It says customers pay $10,000 to surf for an hour. | ||
| Oh, gosh. | ||
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What? | |
| That is expensive. | ||
| Wait a minute, what? | ||
| This is the ESPN video they made about her. | ||
| It says you can surf 100 miles inland for $10,000. | ||
| Kelly Slater trying to get... | ||
| Kelly Slater getting his money back real quick. | ||
| To have a lake in the middle of the desert that's clean and safe. | ||
| Right, but $10,000 for an hour? | ||
| You can suck all the dicks. | ||
| Well, there's employees you gotta pay for. | ||
| Yeah, you can suck all the dicks. | ||
| Maybe you gotta heat it so it's not cold or... | ||
| I got some cash, but I ain't spending $10,000 to surf for an hour. | ||
| But if I was a professional surfer, look at the stars who have done it. | ||
| Eddie Vedder, Tony Hawk, Chris Hemsworth. | ||
| Chris Hemsworth. | ||
| Thor. | ||
| They had Thor surfing there. | ||
| Yeah, Thor went there. | ||
| You think Thor paid $10,000? | ||
| I bet he didn't. | ||
| I think Thor just, you know, used his hammer and just... | ||
| It's like, nah, you keep... | ||
| Hit the water. | ||
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Boom! | |
| Yeah? | ||
| I'm here to surf. | ||
| Yeah, that's a lot of money, man. | ||
| Is it really that much? | ||
| That can't be right. | ||
|
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Who knows? | |
| That can't be right. | ||
| $10,000 for an hour? | ||
| Really? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It was a YouTube, so maybe it might be clickbait. | ||
| ESPN's YouTube, not that they're... | ||
| ESPN's not really clickbait. | ||
| 100% legit source, but it's a pretty good one. | ||
| Well, it must be fucking expensive as shit to run, but it makes sense. | ||
| I mean, look, it's probably got a crazy motor that powers that fucking thing. | ||
| I feel like when he was here, though, he said it's private, too, so maybe you have to call someone to turn it on. | ||
| That makes more sense. | ||
| That makes more sense. | ||
| Well, that's probably how they keep people out. | ||
| Listen, bitch, $10,000 an hour. | ||
| Oh, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, I gotta go. | ||
| Yeah, thank you. | ||
| I'll call my friend and see what's up. | ||
| Let me check him out. | ||
| Do you see the way my account is set up right now? | ||
| All right. | ||
| I just Googled this just so we know. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| General admission tickets are $99 a day. | ||
| Oh! | ||
| That's a big deal. | ||
| That's a clickbait. | ||
| That must have been for the private stars. | ||
| Oh, that makes sense. | ||
| So if you want to use the whole thing just for yourself. | ||
| That's probably what's going on. | ||
| Okay, that makes sense. | ||
| That makes a lot more sense. | ||
| Sorry, Kelly. | ||
| He's probably going, what the fuck? | ||
| I thought we were friends. | ||
| 10,000 bucks. | ||
| But that makes sense if you want to rent the whole thing. | ||
| If you want to rent out the roller place, if you want to roller skate for a whole day, it'll probably cost you 10 grand. | ||
| No way! | ||
| I'd be like, no! | ||
| Come on! | ||
| If you want it all for yourself, for a party, how much do you think that if you said, listen, nobody can come here, it's just me, I bet they would want a lot of money. | ||
| You think so? | ||
| Yes, man. | ||
| I've rented out places for my kids. | ||
| It's not cheap, man. | ||
| You want to rent out a place like a bouncy house place? | ||
| Yeah, we're in Hawaii. | ||
| We're in LA. Yeah, you're in LA too. | ||
| We're in Hawaii too. | ||
| Things are expensive in Hawaii, man. | ||
| So you might be right. | ||
| Dude, Lanai is crazy. | ||
| Come on, I know a guy. | ||
| I know Joe Rogan. | ||
| I'll shout you out the next time we go. | ||
| We'll shout you out. | ||
| We'll shout you out, man. | ||
| Lanai, we were there. | ||
| We saw strawberries that were like seven bucks for a little package of strawberries. | ||
| I was like, whoa. | ||
| But it makes sense. | ||
| How the fuck are you going to get strawberries there? | ||
| You see how much milk is there? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| I don't drink milk anymore, but it's about like $15. | ||
| But the folks who live on Lanai are telling me Amazon Prime is the shit. | ||
| They don't have to shop. | ||
| Everything's flown into them. | ||
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Nice. | |
| I'm like, oh, that makes sense. | ||
| Because the planes are coming there every day. | ||
| Just load up some of your stuff on planes. | ||
| You don't have to... | ||
| Because otherwise, they have to go to Maui or somewhere. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Do you think you can live on one of them little islands like that? | ||
| Because you live where a lot of people live. | ||
| Like, you're in Hawaii. | ||
| Yeah, we live a bit far off. | ||
| No. | ||
| Hiker Holloway is only a couple hours kind of thing. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| I'm going to keep it real for the boys. | ||
| Hiker Holloway is a 10 minute video log for YouTube, my guys. | ||
| After that, I'm right back to Gadget Holloway. | ||
| Gadget Holloway? | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Are you into gadgets? | ||
| I'm into technology, my friend. | ||
| Are you really? | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| What kind of shit? | ||
| What are you into? | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| If it's cool. | ||
| Phones and computers. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Video games. | ||
| I love playing video games. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| That's my Kryptonite video games. | ||
| What game are you playing? | ||
| Well, we were playing Quake Champions, but I got a real problem. | ||
| What's the matter? | ||
| We wanted to get back in yesterday. | ||
| I was thinking about it yesterday. | ||
|
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We were talking about it. | |
| I was like, one more game, we'll play one more game. | ||
| I have a very addictive personality. | ||
|
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You're a PCer? | |
| Yeah, a PC game. | ||
| Yeah, too hard. | ||
| I tried to do it for me, and then I was like, man, because I wanted to get into it, but it's too hard for me. | ||
| And then I get frustrated when people... | ||
| Fuck you up? | ||
| Yeah, I'm like, guy, come on. | ||
| Come on, guy. | ||
| Send me location. | ||
| Send me location. | ||
| That might be one of the greatest things that anyone's ever said when someone said they want to fight them. | ||
| Send location. | ||
| Send me location. | ||
| That was good. | ||
| Those little things, those little Xbox and PlayStation controllers, they're not as accurate. | ||
| No, not at all. | ||
| You can tell. | ||
| So I was playing, when I was playing 4 and I was playing PC before they had to cosplay. | ||
| Now you can play with everybody to your PlayStation 4, but I'll just put my controller in. | ||
| And you could tell, when I was playing with the mouse and stuff, you could tell the accuracy was way different. | ||
| Now you use your controller and stuff, the delay is very small, but you can feel the delay. | ||
| I'm like, I turned around already! | ||
| It's just not accurate enough. | ||
| And even with your movements, right? | ||
| Like the movements with the keyboard, especially a mechanical keyboard. | ||
| I feel like I can really calculate what I'm doing within... | ||
| Inches, centimeters. | ||
| That's dope. | ||
| That's dope. | ||
| I didn't know you was a gamer. | ||
| Oh, I was addicted. | ||
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That's awesome. | |
| Super addicted. | ||
| I used to play eight hours a day. | ||
| I used to play online. | ||
| I had a T1 line installed in my house. | ||
|
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Did you stream and stuff? | |
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| That's dope. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| That's so dope. | ||
| I lived in the wilderness, and there was no fucking good internet. | ||
| So I had a T1 line installed in my house. | ||
| They had to dig into the ground, took forever, lay pipes and shit so that I could get a good gaming line. | ||
| That's so dope. | ||
| You're a legend. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| I'm a moron. | ||
| No, I'm a moron. | ||
| No, bro, I was playing eight hours a day. | ||
| You are a legend of morons. | ||
| How about that? | ||
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Thank you. | |
| I appreciate that. | ||
| That's accurate. | ||
| And I got to the point where I was like, I got to stop. | ||
| I quit for a long time. | ||
| I had to stop playing games because that's what I do. | ||
| I'll train, be gone all day, get home, play for another four hours, screwing up my sleep, and whatever. | ||
| Because Modern Warfare came out during this fight camp. | ||
| And, like, the new one, I was playing, and then I was, like, I was playing, I was loving it, and then, like, the last three weeks of camp, I was, like, yeah, or the last four weeks, I was, like, yeah, I gotta stop playing. | ||
| Like, there's no way, like, I gotta put this down. | ||
| So I turn it down. | ||
| Yeah, because, like, you just get lost track of time. | ||
| Like, I don't play story mode. | ||
| Like, I'm a guy, like, I just want to get... | ||
| I love Fortnite and then even Call of Duty, because then you can... | ||
| You pretty much have all the same guns, and you just get in there, and you can just start battling with guys, and, like, it's competitive, you know? | ||
|
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Yes. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| And so that's what I liked, you know, just being competitive. | ||
| And then I was like, man, I didn't play for 10 plus years. | ||
| And then we set up, we had a land room in there, in the back. | ||
| Oh, yeah? | ||
| Yeah, dude, it was a real problem. | ||
| And so once we started playing, I was playing every fucking day, hours and hours and hours. | ||
| Jamie, you played, you had it for like, what, two years? | ||
| And Jeff and I logged in more hours? | ||
| On the, just that game, yeah, for sure. | ||
| We logged in more hours in how long? | ||
| Two months? | ||
| Three months? | ||
| More than two years of him playing. | ||
| 60 days, basically. | ||
| Playing four hours a day. | ||
| Yeah, he's nuts. | ||
| And that was just because I only had four hours a day. | ||
| Like, if I didn't have to go somewhere, I would have been there all night. | ||
| I'd come here on days off. | ||
| I'd come here, work out, I'd come here, hit the bag, do some rounds on the bag, and then I wound up playing four or five hours online. | ||
| And I was like, fuck, I gotta stop doing this. | ||
| I get a text, hey, what are you doing? | ||
| You're busy, you wanna play some games? | ||
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I text Jamie, I'm like, come on, bro, let's go do this! | |
| It's the best, though. | ||
| It's the best. | ||
| It's too crazy. | ||
| It is crazy, though. | ||
| It's super addictive. | ||
| My brain is not good for that. | ||
| But you see what the kids are making now? | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| They're making real money. | ||
| Oh, my gosh. | ||
| Millions. | ||
| Playing video games. | ||
| Fit plays. | ||
| No leg kicks. | ||
|
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Did you see? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Did you see? | ||
| Did you see what's his name? | ||
| Sean O'Malley gave like 15 plays and he made like more or whatever. | ||
| They're saying like they did a comparison of how much he made, like $27,000, $27,500,000. | ||
| Versus his fights? | ||
| Yeah, versus his fights. | ||
| They did it. | ||
| They compared it to his fights. | ||
| I was like, what? | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| He could be a professional Fortnite-er. | ||
| Fortnite-er! | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| He's good, too. | ||
| I saw a couple of his streams. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Well, he had to do something right. | ||
| Didn't he get fucked over by a banned supplement? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Sean O'Malley says he makes around $4,500 a month through gaming. | ||
| Gaming. | ||
| It's over a year ago. | ||
| Oh, he's probably making more now. | ||
| He just won, I think it was $27,500. | ||
| He gave it all to a charity. | ||
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Really? | |
| He came 14th place or 8th place, something like that. | ||
| But he gave it all to a charity. | ||
| Yeah, he's the man. | ||
| I like that kid a lot. | ||
| He's a legend, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, I like him a lot. | ||
| Yeah, and then I think the thing that he got caught was with, I think it was marijuana or something. | ||
| Was it? | ||
|
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No. | |
| Yeah, I think that's what it was. | ||
| Is that what it was? | ||
| No, I think it was. | ||
| I thought it was a tainted supplement. | ||
| Oh, is it a supplement? | ||
| Yeah, I think it's... | ||
| Jamie was saying that they're going to not test baseball players anymore for pot. | ||
| I saw that. | ||
| Yeah, I saw that. | ||
| Good! | ||
| Good, that's what we want. | ||
| A bunch of stolen people out there trying to catch a ball. | ||
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Perfect. | |
| That'd be terrible. | ||
| Maybe better. | ||
| Maybe they know where that ball's going. | ||
| They took marijuana off their list, but they added opioids, which is... | ||
| Oh, that's good. | ||
| ...a good thing, but yeah. | ||
| That it was? | ||
| Oh, so opioids weren't on the list before? | ||
| Yeah, that's crazy. | ||
| People were like, hold on, what? | ||
| That's crazy, because that's a real problem, man. | ||
| That's a real problem. | ||
| Opioids is the real problem, not marijuana. | ||
| That's great. | ||
| That's heavy. | ||
| Hawaii has a lot of drug issues, right? | ||
| Oh, 100%. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, 100%. | ||
| How'd you avoid that shit growing up? | ||
| Ah, you know, like, I saw it. | ||
| I saw, like, I remember, like, being, like, I think I was eight. | ||
| I think I was eight. | ||
| No, not eight. | ||
| We had to be younger. | ||
| Maybe I was six, seven. | ||
| Six or seven. | ||
| My brother is one younger than me. | ||
| I remember, like, my uncle coming into the bathroom and my mom was showering me and my brother and, like, just fighting with my mom. | ||
| Like, they're fighting. | ||
| Like, fist fighting. | ||
| This is normal though. | ||
| Ice is like crazy in Hawaii. | ||
| Ice is meth, right? | ||
| Yeah, meth. | ||
| And I was like, holy shit, this is nuts. | ||
| And then I see my friends and family, their parents or whatever, or even going to high school, my friends doing this and that. | ||
| And I'm like, guys, this is not for me. | ||
| I ain't going to do this shit. | ||
| I see what it did to my family, how it affected, and some of my people I love as friends and stuff, families, and I was like, I ain't going to do this. | ||
| And then that's just why I just stayed with it. | ||
| I never did anything. | ||
| Never did no type of drug. | ||
| Not even marijuana. | ||
| Never tried it. | ||
| Really? | ||
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Never? | |
| Never did nothing. | ||
|
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To this day? | |
| Yeah, to this day. | ||
|
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We'll try now? | |
| No, I'm good. | ||
| I'm good. | ||
| You seem like you have, though. | ||
| That's what's funny. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| You're like a laughy dude. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| You're silly. | ||
| I'm high on life. | ||
| Yeah, I guess so, man. | ||
|
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You don't need it. | |
| I don't need it, yeah. | ||
| So I just saw what a lot of people like. | ||
| And then I stare away from marijuana for the wrong reason. | ||
| Because when you was in high school, you remember when I remember. | ||
| This always sticks out to me whenever you talk about it. | ||
| It's when you bang up the dog commercial. | ||
| What are you doing? | ||
| I really wish you wouldn't smoke pot. | ||
| No, you're not. | ||
| You're not on marijuana if you're talking to a dog. | ||
| Don't stick with me for the rest of my life, Joe. | ||
| You got me all messed up for that commercial. | ||
| That's a bit from my... | ||
| I think that's from 2009. That's my 2009 special. | ||
| That's from a long time ago. | ||
| I really wish you wouldn't smoke weed. | ||
| That's when I was graduating. | ||
| So that's when I was in school. | ||
| Play it. | ||
| Play that shit. | ||
| Play it. | ||
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Let me hear it. | |
| Go back. | ||
| Rewind it a little bit so I can hear the whole thing. | ||
|
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I wish you didn't smoke weed. | |
| You're not the same when you smoke. | ||
| And I miss my friend. | ||
| I'll be outside. | ||
| *gunshot* What the fuck were they thinking when they made that commercial? | ||
| I remember he saying, you're not on marijuana. | ||
| That girl's on cocaine and sleeping pills. | ||
| Her fucking dog is talking to her. | ||
| Not only that, she's not even reacting. | ||
| If your dog was talking to you when you were high, you'd be like, fuck, you can talk? | ||
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How long have you been able to talk? | |
| If my dog was talking to me, I was like, wait, wait, this whole time, you used the damn bathroom outside. | ||
| What are you doing? | ||
| Why are you barking at me? | ||
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If you want food, tell me you want to eat. | |
| I'd go crazy with my dog. | ||
| She doesn't even react. | ||
| She's like, huh? | ||
| She's not freaking out. | ||
| You would freak the fuck out if Marshall started talking to me. | ||
| I'd be like, what? | ||
| Hold on, do that again. | ||
| I'd get my phone out. | ||
| Yeah, that was a stupid commercial, man. | ||
| Yeah, but yeah, I just saw, I just saw a lot of people like, and we got a lot of talented kids from our side, from YNA. Like, I saw guys like, uh, supposed to be in, I think, I think, personally, they're supposed to be in NFL and MLB, or they're supposed to be greater things, you know, and, um, just drugs and just other stuff, like, you know, that most of them is still at home. | ||
| I still see them around town, when I'm around town, and, Working a job they don't like. | ||
| Talking about the days when they was in high school when they did certain stuff. | ||
| And I always told myself, that's not going to be me. | ||
| The older people that was older than me. | ||
| And with drugs too, I was like, this ain't going to stop me. | ||
| I ain't going to let this be it. | ||
| This ain't it for me. | ||
| So where did you develop? | ||
| Did you always have this mindset that you were going to be great at something? | ||
| Oh, 100%. | ||
| So, 9th grade. | ||
| When I was 9th grade, I remember going from 8th grade to 9th grade. | ||
| I was going 9th grade. | ||
| And one of my cousins, my older cousins, he was with me at this last fight. | ||
| I thought he was supposed to be an MLB. And he wanted to be an MLB player, so I was like, I'm going to be an MLB player. | ||
| So I go home. | ||
| I tell my grandma, Grandma, I'm going to be an MLB player. | ||
| She's like, okay, good. | ||
| But you know he got to go to college, right? | ||
| I was like, yeah, and what's the problem? | ||
| She's like, we don't have money for college, so you need to go get a scholarship. | ||
| So I'm like, okay, dope. | ||
| So I made school. | ||
| I graduated cum laude and stuff because I thought I was going to play. | ||
| I wanted to play MLB. I wanted to go to college and get a scholarship, but... | ||
| But anyway, 10th grade came, and then it was after the ending of baseball, I found fighting. | ||
| And when I was fighting, when I fought, I fought, there was like only a week left in school. | ||
| And then I fought, we came to school, I trained, at first I trained. | ||
| Did you start with MMA? No, I started with kickboxing. | ||
| I only trained for three days. | ||
| I trained for three days. | ||
| Yeah, my friend told me. | ||
| Baseball season just done. | ||
| I went to train with him. | ||
| I trained for three days. | ||
| And then on the second day, I went there on Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, four days. | ||
| So Wednesday, I went to train. | ||
| Thursday, I show up. | ||
| They told me, oh, my friend was fighting on Saturday. | ||
| He told me, oh, Max. | ||
| The coach told us, Max, someone dropped out. | ||
| You want to fight? | ||
| On Saturday? | ||
| You gotta weigh 135. I was like, I was like, bet. | ||
| I was like, I'll fight. | ||
| Because I was gonna go, I would have to ask my, but my story was, I had to ask my grandma for $35 to get into the fight. | ||
| To watch my friend kickbox. | ||
| But I was like, I get to fight and I get it for free? | ||
| Like, yeah. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| This is bad. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| I would get him for free. | ||
| I don't have to ask him for $35, you know? | ||
| You trained for two days and they asked you that. | ||
| What kind of fucking coach were you going to that asked you if you want to fight on your second day? | ||
| He saw it out. | ||
| We were sparring already. | ||
| I was sparring the first day. | ||
| Second day came back. | ||
| We was like technical sparring, but then we was doing, you know? | ||
| The first time I ever sparring, when I went with them, I got punched in the face. | ||
| And the first thing that went in my mind, like, I got to punch this guy back. | ||
| I don't know how I'm going to do it, but I'm going to punch you right back in your face because I hurt. | ||
| You know, and that's what we did. | ||
| And I ended up fighting. | ||
| I ended up winning the fight. | ||
| I remember going to school that following Monday. | ||
| And I was telling everybody, this was when K-1 was huge. | ||
| This was 2007. I was like, I'm going to be a K-1 fighter, guys. | ||
| Watch. | ||
| They must have been like, when did you start training? | ||
| Last week, I already had a fight and I won. | ||
| That sounds like a lie. | ||
| If someone told you that, like, hey man, I was over at the gym for two days. | ||
| They told me I'm good. | ||
| I should have a fight. | ||
| So I had a fight that weekend and I won. | ||
| People would be like, what? | ||
| That's how crazy my mom was because I wasn't 18. I was only 16. So I had to get approval from her. | ||
| She had to tell the coach that I could do it. | ||
| And she was like, I told my mom, mom. | ||
| They just asked me to fight. | ||
| And my mom asked me, are you ready? | ||
| I was like, I don't know. | ||
| I don't know, but I want to fight. | ||
| And she's like, okay, just don't get hurt. | ||
| That's how crazy my mom is. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| That's my mother. | ||
| She's crazy. | ||
| So she let me fight and the rest is history. | ||
| And then two years later, that's when BJ Penn was the BJ Penn era in the UFC. BJ was fighting George. | ||
| BJ went on that 55 streak. | ||
| And then I saw how much he made after one of his fights. | ||
| It's like 30k. | ||
| I was like, this is done. | ||
| I was telling everybody when I was graduating, I was like, I'm going to be a UFC champion. | ||
| I told them I'm going to be a UFC fighter. | ||
| I was like, I'm going to be a UFC fighter, 100%. | ||
| And then... | ||
| My brother, my older brother, he graduated. | ||
| He graduated from high school. | ||
| From college, I mean. | ||
| From college. | ||
| He came home to California. | ||
| He went to California Art Institute. | ||
| Something Art Institute. | ||
| Art Institute something here. | ||
| And he came home and I was graduating high school that day. | ||
| And I was on his computer playing games. | ||
| And he was like... | ||
| He was like, you graduate. | ||
| What you gonna do now? | ||
| I was like, I looked at him. | ||
| I was like, I'll be a UFC fighter. | ||
| And he did this laugh that I'm not gonna ever forget. | ||
| It's just ingrained in my brain. | ||
| He's like, ha! | ||
| Ha ha ha! | ||
| And then he said, yeah, I don't know how that's gonna work for you. | ||
| So you better go figure it out, you know? | ||
| And then that was on nine. | ||
| And then three years later, January 4th, I was at the hospital, and I was waiting on the arrival of my son. | ||
| I remember the exact time, it's 10.03am. | ||
| I get my phone rang and be like, hey, check your email. | ||
| So I go check my email, and it's a UFC contract to fight Poirier for February 4th. | ||
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Wow. | |
| First, I hang up the phone, I hang up the phone, first person I call, My older brother. | ||
| And he know I was there for my son. | ||
| For my son that was being born. | ||
| And he picks up the phone. | ||
| He's like, what's up, Max? | ||
| I was like, what? | ||
| Is my nephew here? | ||
| I go, no. | ||
| And he's like, then what? | ||
| And he's big into Vizalus. | ||
| And Vizalus saying was, I told you so. | ||
| There's this thing, like, I told you so. | ||
| And I told him, oh, no. | ||
| Guess who you're talking to? | ||
| He's like, who am I talking to? | ||
| I was like, he's talking to a UFC fighter. | ||
| And he's like, ha-ha! | ||
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He took the same laugh! | |
| He did the same laugh. | ||
| And then he goes, he's like, go ahead, go ahead, you can tell me. | ||
| I go like, tell you what? | ||
| And he's like, tell me I told you so. | ||
| I was like, nah, I just wanted to let you know. | ||
| He's like, I'll call you when my son's here. | ||
| And I hung up the phone. | ||
| And then 303, my son was there. | ||
| So January 4th was one of the best days of my life. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| And then you fought Conor when you were like, what were you, 20 or 21? | ||
| I think I was 21 or, yeah, 21. I think he's 23 or whatever. | ||
| I think he's two or three years older than me. | ||
| So I think if he was 24 and then I was 22 or something, 21. So that was your last loss and then you went on a crazy streak. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You went on a crazy winning streak. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, it was crazy. | ||
| When you see Connor doing stuff, I'm a big believer in things happening for a reason. | ||
| Before that, I actually remember talking to you after my first one was Bermudez, when I fought Bermudez. | ||
| And that was a tough fight. | ||
| I remember I ran into you at MGM. And you were leaving. | ||
| You were going back home to LA or wherever you were going, and I saw you at the elevators. | ||
| And he was like, oh, keep your head up, kid. | ||
| He said, I thought you did enough. | ||
| And I was like, yeah, it is what it is. | ||
| He's like, yeah, you'll be back though, for sure. | ||
| And then after that, we fought Conor. | ||
| And then those two fights really meant a lot at that time in my career because it just made me realize how much I really got to buckle down. | ||
| I really had to do something. | ||
| I really had to find something. | ||
| I didn't have a striking coach. | ||
| My first coach that I started with, when I got into the UFC, was no longer. | ||
| I ended up doing Jiu Jitsu with Ryland Lazarus, the coach I'm with now. | ||
| He's been ever since UFC. A little bit before my UFC fights too. | ||
| And then I never had a striking coach for Dustin, then we went on 4 and then we went on 2. So whatever the 1, 5, 6, 7. My first 7 fights in the UFC. So what did you do for striking? | ||
| You really want to know what I did? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know the UFC game? | ||
| I would use Henan Baral and Jose Aldo and I would do stuff with them. | ||
| I'd be like, oh yeah, this works in the game. | ||
| So my friend at the time, Dustin Kimura, he would kind of hold mitts for me and I'd be like, look, I tried this in the game and it was working. | ||
| Let's try it. | ||
| And we did it. | ||
| I figured it out from UFC, the regular UFC game, the first ever UFC game. | ||
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What?! | |
| Yeah. | ||
| You would watch the video game? | ||
| I would play the video game and be like, oh, look at this. | ||
| I would try the combination. | ||
| I'd be like, oh, yeah, this kind of works, so let's try it. | ||
| Why not? | ||
| It got me that far. | ||
| That is so ridiculous. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| So then you realized you had to do something different after the Bermuda's loss? | ||
| Not the Bermuda's loss. | ||
| The Bermuda's loss, we were trying to find a striking coach and this and that. | ||
| And then the Connor loss, we were like, yeah. | ||
| We got to get this shit going. | ||
| My coach did, Rylan. | ||
| Rylan was like, man, I'm going to pull somebody in. | ||
| And then he bring in the guy that I work with now, Ivan Flores, my striking coach. | ||
| And he lives on the island as well? | ||
| Yeah, he lives on the island. | ||
| We're all in one gym now. | ||
| We're all together. | ||
| Oh, that's great. | ||
| Yeah, so it's like super easy now. | ||
| It made a giant difference, obviously. | ||
| Human is different. | ||
| So it's like big, big difference. | ||
| What does your brother say now? | ||
| What does he say now? | ||
| You're the greatest featherweight of all time. | ||
| What does he say now? | ||
| Nothing. | ||
| He can't say shit. | ||
| Yeah, let go. | ||
| Do you ever say, hey, man, you remember? | ||
| Yeah, I always. | ||
| All the time. | ||
| I'm not going to let you forget that. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| I'm not going to let you forget that. | ||
| It's kind of hilarious, right? | ||
| It's funny. | ||
| You think about your younger brother telling you he's going to be a UFC fighter, and he turns out to be one of the all-time greats. | ||
| And you're mocking him. | ||
| You're like, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, you're going to be a fighter, bro. | ||
| Good luck. | ||
| Yeah, he said, this is exactly what he said. | ||
| He said, yeah, good luck with that. | ||
| He said, yeah, you should start looking into colleges or some type of state job. | ||
| I was like, nah, you just watch. | ||
| You just wait. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Talk about, like, calling it. | ||
| But that's one of those things, like, if someone tells it to you, like, I'm going to be a UFC champion, like, what are the odds? | ||
| Yeah, one of my friends, you know, like, Michael Nakagawa, like, he used to train with Alpha Male, because he went to UC Davis, and he got drafted, he got picked up from, Uriah favored him, because of UC Davis and stuff, and that's why he got... | ||
| Is he a wrestler? | ||
| Yeah, he's a wrestler. | ||
| Yeah, a big-time wrestler, and then... | ||
| I remember the first time wrestling, going with him, and I was in the UFC already, and Chad was one of the top guys, you know, and I remember my friend told me Dustin Kimura, like, oh yeah, he trained on Alpha Male then, blah, blah, blah. | ||
| I woke up straight to him, I shook his hand, I told him, you know how I woke Chad Mendes's ass, right? | ||
| And then he was like, wait, what? | ||
| I was like, yeah, I'll probably whoop Chadman in his ass. | ||
| And he's like, okay. | ||
| And this is after he just taking my ass down like a hundred times in practice. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Or right before he did that, and then we practiced, and he took me down like a hundred times in practice. | ||
| You know, I don't know wrestling too good. | ||
| And then I still told him, and I still told him, I still whoop Chadman in his ass. | ||
| I'm going to beat him. | ||
| This is how life goes. | ||
| I told him, I'm going to beat Jose Aldo. | ||
| I'm going to beat the champ. | ||
| I was like, these guys, they're not going to touch me. | ||
| And you can ask them about the story. | ||
| And he always told me, like, when it actually happened, he finally told me, he's like, yeah, Max, I was never going to tell you, but I thought you was fucking insane. | ||
| I was like, no, this is a different confidence. | ||
| You just got to put it out in the world. | ||
| You know, if you think you're going to do something, go do it and go work hard. | ||
| I wasn't scared of hard work. | ||
| You've always had this attitude, though. | ||
| Do you know where you got it from? | ||
| Uh, I don't, like, my grandpa, you know, I guess it has to be from my grandpa, you know, my grandpa, he'd probably be mad, you know, he passed away when I was 8th grade, but he'd probably be mad down the fire because he didn't want us, he's an electrician, so he just wanted us to get a good job, a great job, family, a house, and all that stuff. | ||
| But it's just him, hard work. | ||
| I remember coming home from practices or school. | ||
| Before you go out, we had to do all the chores, whatever. | ||
| Every Saturday, Sunday, we wake up at 6 o'clock. | ||
| He had breakfast made for us and we'd go out and clean the yard before we could go do anything else. | ||
| He just had structure and hard work. | ||
| We had to pull weeds. | ||
| He was one of those guys that would find work out of nothing. | ||
| We'd be doing one thing, we'd be done, and it'd be done ahead of schedule. | ||
| It's like, okay, perfect. | ||
| I need you guys to do this. | ||
| It's like, no! | ||
| No, this is not it! | ||
| We couldn't say nothing, but we'd get an ass beat if we did. | ||
| But yeah, I think it was just my grandpa. | ||
| And it was just sacrifices. | ||
| In high school, what I did when I was playing baseball and stuff, I gave up all my recesses and my lunches. | ||
| We had 20-minute lunch and 15-minute recess to do my homework because all I wanted to do was be an MLB player. | ||
| So when I went out to practice right after baseball, right after school was finished, I remember just going on the field and not thinking about going home. | ||
| I got to do homework or I got to do a project. | ||
| A lot of teachers would help me out in school and stuff and this and that. | ||
| That's how I got cum laude. | ||
| Like, I'm not the smartest kid. | ||
| Like, I figured out, I hacked a lot of things going through the beginning of life. | ||
| I hacked a lot of things. | ||
| Like, one of the things in school I realized that you sit by one of the smartest kids. | ||
| I used to sit by the smartest kids. | ||
| Every time I was in class, I'd sit by the smartest kid asking them for help. | ||
| They'd help me willingly. | ||
| Like, okay, yeah, help me, help me, help me. | ||
| And if I really got stuck, they'd be like, ah, give me that. | ||
| Take my work, do my work for me. | ||
| I'm like, oh, perfect. | ||
| Perfect, you know what I mean? | ||
| Like, okay, cool. | ||
| And I just had to get, like, C's on top of my tests to get the grades, and I was doing good. | ||
| You know, boys and the money, so. | ||
| It's just about hacking life, I guess. | ||
| So you just learned hard work from your grandfather? | ||
| 100%. | ||
| So what he made you do, and then he put it in your head that you could do whatever you wanted to. | ||
| Yeah, he said if you want anything, anything or everything ever comes from hard work. | ||
| You're not going to ever get gifted anything. | ||
| And if you are gifted something, don't take it. | ||
| Say thank you, smile or whatever, but go out and work for it or earn it, you know? | ||
| He was one of those guys that if you gave him something, he always made sure he gave you back something. | ||
| He didn't want to feel like he owed you, you know? | ||
| Maybe he would be upset that you were a fighter, but damn, he'd be proud of you. | ||
| Yeah, but I know that this is the number one thing. | ||
| So every time, he already was like, he was out of work, he was retired and stuff. | ||
| And every morning, 6 o'clock in the morning, we had a gazebo, drinking his Miller Lite every morning. | ||
| School day, weekday, every morning. | ||
| Come home from school at 3 o'clock, he stood there drinking his Miller Lite, you know? | ||
| Like drinking a Miller Lite, so... | ||
| I know he's up there, wherever he is, whatever you believe in, I know he's looking down on me and just being like, he's always just a stupid kid. | ||
| And I know he's just looking at me, I know he's proud and stuff, but I know he's just like, you're a dumbass kid. | ||
| And it's cool, that's him though. | ||
| Well, you know, it's just amazing what you've accomplished. | ||
| It's amazing when you stop and think that you're still only 28, too. | ||
| You know, you've got a long way to go, man. | ||
| 28. That's why. | ||
| It's funny, you know, like a lot of people is like, yeah, this guy's the future of the division, or this is the future of that. | ||
| He's older than you. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
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I'm like, I'm a time traveler, guys! | |
| Because I'm 28, you know? | ||
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The boy is time traveling right now when they tell me I'm the future. | |
| I'm like, so that means I'm from the, you know? | ||
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Yeah, most guys your age are not even fighting for a title. | |
| Yeah, I got in. | ||
| It was cool to have stuff on this card. | ||
| Hooper, the Hooper kid. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Because he's 20. I was just like him when I came in. | ||
| I remember I told him, what's up? | ||
| I saw him, I said hi, and I was talking to him. | ||
| People was telling me, yeah, you know how old he is, he's 20. I was like, yeah, that's why I want to go shake his head. | ||
| Because I was that kid. | ||
| It was only eight years ago. | ||
| Yeah, and I was that kid. | ||
| I shook his head. | ||
| I was like, what's up, my man? | ||
| Nice to meet you. | ||
| It's crazy because when I was that age, I remember fighting in Vegas. | ||
| The first fight, Poirier. | ||
| I remember I was standing. | ||
| I was watching people gamble. | ||
| And then they're like, hey, can I get your ID? I was like, oh yeah, sure. | ||
| Show my ID to a card. | ||
| They gave me back. | ||
| They're like, yeah, you need to get the hell off the floor. | ||
| I was like, why? | ||
| They're like, it's a casino. | ||
| You're not 21. You can just only walk through. | ||
| I was like, wow, this is some bullshit. | ||
| I didn't even know, you know? | ||
| So I had to keep walking. | ||
| I was mad. | ||
| Yeah, that's hilarious. | ||
| You're old enough to fight, but you're not old enough to gamble. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| That's the biggest gamble you could ever do with your life. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And I'm fighting grown men. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, like, I'm fighting grown men. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| And it's a gamble. | ||
| That's the real gamble. | ||
| Fuck money, man. | ||
| You're throwing knuckles and shins at people, trying to choke them. | ||
| They're trying to choke you. | ||
| That's the biggest gamble a person can take. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's wild. | ||
| You have crazy fucking cardio, man. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Your cardio is very impressive. | ||
| Genetics. | ||
| Is it genetics? | ||
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Genetics. | |
| It's got to be a lot of hard work, too, man. | ||
| Hard work. | ||
| I've seen you run with the sail. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What kind of shit do you do for strength and conditioning? | ||
| You have a separate strength and conditioning coach? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I got this guy named Darren Yap. | ||
| Tatako Strength and Conditioning. | ||
| Out in Oahu. | ||
| He's one of the best guys out there. | ||
| A lot of coaches, they say... | ||
| People don't know my coaches because they don't really like me talking about them. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah, every time they hear me talking about them, they're like, come on, guys. | ||
| They just want everything to me. | ||
| That's how this team is. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| They just want everything on me. | ||
| They don't want people to know. | ||
| They don't want... | ||
| You're very lucky. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You're very lucky. | ||
| Yeah, very blessed. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| I'm blessed. | ||
| You have the best nickname for you. | ||
| I got some of the best guys behind. | ||
| They don't want to know, but... | ||
| Yeah, it is hard work. | ||
| How often do you do it? | ||
| Like when you're in camp? | ||
| I do strength and conditioning at least four times. | ||
| Four times a week? | ||
| At least four times. | ||
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Really? | |
| And what kind of shit are you doing? | ||
| I lift weights for sure, and then we do cardio stuff. | ||
| We try to balance it. | ||
| One of our favorite things is you've got to have goal muscle, not show muscle. | ||
| You see some of these guys, how you said, they just rip and look amazing, this and that, but they're tired in 30 seconds. | ||
| That's show muscle. | ||
| We've got to have goal muscle. | ||
| I do a bunch of some days heavy lifting, some days circuits, some days sprints, different type of sprints, different type of running. | ||
| I like running, I like jogging, but... | ||
| Do you run on the beach? | ||
| I like running on the beach. | ||
| The beach is pretty fun, but it's kind of irritating. | ||
| I like swimming. | ||
| I do swimming here and there. | ||
| But it's all different type of muscles. | ||
| We make sure we all sit down, we do, and we talk about the goal at hand, and then we make the training around it. | ||
| So when you're doing four days a week, he's scheduling all this stuff for you, like figuring out what you're going to do? | ||
| Oh, so I have... | ||
| The boy got it easy. | ||
| The boy got it so easy, like... | ||
| My manager, him, a couple of coaches, I got a couple of PT guys and a couple of doctors. | ||
| They're all in a group text. | ||
| They all got my calendar and they put everything in there for me. | ||
| So you just got to listen to them when they tell you what to do. | ||
| So I just look at my calendar the night before and I know where I need to be. | ||
| With addresses, times and everything. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| So life be good. | ||
| Life be really good. | ||
| They spoiled me a little bit. | ||
| That's beautiful. | ||
| So four days a week you're doing that. | ||
| Are you doing that in the morning? | ||
| I like working. | ||
| I like doing that before. | ||
| If I am doing it on that day or whatever day I do, do strength and conditioning, that's my first workout day. | ||
| I hate when I see people do the jujitsu training before, and then they go and try to do stuff. | ||
| That's not going to happen. | ||
| It's backwards. | ||
| Why is that? | ||
| Because I believe you're getting tired and stuff, and then you go straight into conditioning, you're not going to be able to give your food. | ||
| You cannot push on a weight thing. | ||
| If you gotta lift heavy or do cardio stuff, you can't push when you're already tired. | ||
| It's a cardio thing or there's weights involved or whatever. | ||
| But when I'm in Jiu Jitsu, I can mentally push myself. | ||
| To break, you know what I mean? | ||
| I can go without getting hurt, without really getting hurt. | ||
| But then if I go to do Jiu Jitsu and I gotta lift, what I could do before if I'm fresh versus what I can't do now, it's totally different. | ||
| You're not getting stronger, you're not getting anything, but you can get mentally stronger or whatever, or smarter, and you can figure things out when you apply it. | ||
| I'd rather be tired going to Any type of jujitsu training, wrestling training, or kickboxing training versus the other way around. | ||
| Yeah, there's a lot of jujitsu gyms like Carlson Gracie's, they used to do that. | ||
| They used to have a real hard workout before you would train. | ||
| Before you would train, you'd do bear crawls. | ||
| Yeah, the warm-up. | ||
| Yeah, all kinds of push-ups, sit-ups, different kinds of drills that you would do, like strength and conditioning routines. | ||
| And you would do that before you would ever get a chance to train. | ||
| So you'd be exhausted by the time you trained. | ||
| Because you've got to figure it out. | ||
| because this is like if I like I like to like the I don't know it's just me you know like With this point system, this and that. | ||
| I always try to finish fights no matter what. | ||
| Even if you're the best guy in the world, I'm going to try to finish you. | ||
| And you're always going to see me in your face. | ||
| I'm not going to go away. | ||
| Because that's just it. | ||
| If we fought to death, If there's no time limit, I'm going to kill you. | ||
| That's just my mindset. | ||
| There's no way. | ||
| I'm going to figure out a way to make you tired and make you quit. | ||
| And when you quit, may peace be with you. | ||
| Till the next one. | ||
| But at the end of the day, that's what it is. | ||
| That's why you should be in that moment. | ||
| Because if you're fresh and stuff, everybody can be the greatest fresh. | ||
| But there's the special ones that know how to figure it out when they're not there. | ||
| Like when you're tired and you're dead tired, you gotta go that one more round, the extra minute. | ||
| You figure things out. | ||
| And that's what separates... | ||
| The great from the greatest, you know? | ||
| That's just the difference, I think. | ||
| Well, that's always been a real signature of your fighting style is your endurance and your confidence in your endurance. | ||
| You could push through. | ||
| I'll never forget the rematch with Aldo. | ||
| Right before the second round, you came over to us and you went, the man's tired! | ||
| I'll never forget that. | ||
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He's tired! | |
| But you were hyped up. | ||
| It was funny because I felt him going already. | ||
| And when I came down, when I came by you, and I was like, the man's tired. | ||
| Because I knew, I was like, this guy's done. | ||
| He's done. | ||
| And he came out. | ||
| I remember he came out fast. | ||
| He came out fast with like a straight right, left hook. | ||
| And I was like, oof. | ||
| I was like, maybe he might not be. | ||
| But we... | ||
| But we're going to find out right now. | ||
| And then I pushed it a little bit more and I was like, okay, yeah. | ||
| That was a little smokescreen. | ||
| That's what he had left from the little minute he got to rest, you know? | ||
| He couldn't fight. | ||
| His style is so explosive. | ||
| He couldn't fight that way with you. | ||
| I mean, that was a perfect example of how styles make fights. | ||
| I like what you said. | ||
| I like what you said, like... | ||
| I went in a dogfight knowing that I'm going to come out of a dogfight. | ||
| I'm going to bring the fight to him. | ||
| That's what we knew. | ||
| You forced him into a wild fight. | ||
| I knew that if I got into a couple of slugs with him, every time I came out, my battery would probably drop 2%, but he's dropping like 30%. | ||
| Why is that? | ||
| The dude is genetically gifted with power. | ||
| With power, you know? | ||
| And I knew that I was in here for a long game. | ||
| And if you watch a lot of his fights, that's the cool thing about him. | ||
| I got to watch him when I was 16. I've been watching him in 16 and now I got to face this guy. | ||
| I always told myself, even before I was in MMA, I was like, I want to kickbox this guy. | ||
| If I could fight him for 5 rounds, I could beat him in a kickboxing match. | ||
| That's just what I told myself. | ||
| That's just the belief you need to be great and keep pushing. | ||
| Because you just watch him, you can just see him get tired over time. | ||
| After he win the first three rounds, he just coasted. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They're gifted with powers. | ||
| So true. | ||
| Because those guys who are gifted with power rarely have the same kind. | ||
| There's a lot of guys that I just think, gosh, I wish I had your power. | ||
| If I could just have... | ||
| Give me 2% of your power. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I would love that, you know? | ||
| And we work. | ||
| I'm working for it. | ||
| I'm trying to get it, but just God-given... | ||
| This is different. | ||
| There's some guys, this God-given power, they just touch your chin, boom! | ||
| Yeah, but there's something to be said for the kind of endurance and the style that you have. | ||
| That style of constant pressure, but... | ||
| I like this... | ||
| My style and stuff, I like it because like... | ||
| When you do knock out someone, they can always be like, oh, he just caught me. | ||
| With the Aldo and stuff, the first one, that's what they were saying. | ||
| They were like, yeah, Max, you're losing the first couple rounds, but you just caught him. | ||
| So the second time we did it back, we ran it back, and I had to do what I had to do. | ||
| I wanted to show everybody, look, I'm here for real. | ||
| But that's why I like my style. | ||
| Everybody's like, yeah, you do good, but... | ||
| I'm like, and what? | ||
| Like, if you knock out somebody, like, catch them early in the round, say five seconds in, knock them out, you can be like, yeah, you just caught a lucky punch. | ||
| Even if it was the most calculated punch in the world, you know, even like with the Conor thing, like, this is a lucky punch. | ||
| It's not a lucky punch, you know, Conor's in the back practicing it, you know what I mean? | ||
| Like, you see, it wasn't a lucky punch, but people are going to keep telling him, no, Ilan, it's lucky, blah, blah, blah. | ||
| So it's always going to be whatever, you know, over your head, whatever. | ||
| But the way I fight and stuff, I just want to just outclass you in every single way that I possibly can and show the world, like, look. | ||
| You want to wrestle? | ||
| Yeah, try and get me there. | ||
| You want to do jiu-jitsu? | ||
| Yeah, take me down. | ||
| Let's see if you can get me there first. | ||
| And then if you want to do the striking thing, yeah, let's do it. | ||
| I just want to show the world that, look, I'm better than you in every aspect. | ||
| So mentally, that just screws with someone. | ||
| Do you think that a guy that has the kind of power that Aldo has can ever have the kind of endurance that you have? | ||
| For sure, you know. | ||
| They don't have to fight different. | ||
| Yeah, for sure, you know. | ||
| But in their back pocket, it's just tough because sometimes when those guys' mindsets, I feel like with the guys who get knockout, who has knockout power, their mindsets, they turn to like, they turn to like, I just got to land. | ||
| And then you get tired in there. | ||
| Because then you're mentally fatiguing yourself because you're thinking about like, oh shit, I'm having bad. | ||
| Now I just change it. | ||
| I got to turn it in. | ||
| Now you start getting tense. | ||
| You start looking for that one shot. | ||
| You start missing that shot. | ||
| And even when I fought Aldo, you was calling a lot. | ||
| Look, he's whiffing. | ||
| When you miss a punch and your body goes with it, It's tough. | ||
| It's tough to recover. | ||
| It's like, oh my gosh. | ||
| And then you don't put in the extra 5% that might get you more tired because you're thinking like, why? | ||
| Like, I just missed. | ||
| Where is this kid? | ||
| You know? | ||
| Like, what does he do? | ||
| And then I'm back right on you, you know? | ||
| Or anybody. | ||
| Like, they're back in your face. | ||
| Like, I'm here. | ||
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You know? | |
| Knock, knock. | ||
| Hello. | ||
| You thought I left? | ||
| No, I'm right here. | ||
| That style. | ||
| That's like Colby Covington's style is very similar in the sense that he has a crazy volume. | ||
| You know? | ||
| He's not hitting you 100%. | ||
| I talked to him after the Robbie Lawler fight. | ||
| I go, how hard are you hitting? | ||
| Are you hitting like 60%, 70%? | ||
| He goes, yeah, somewhere around there. | ||
| 60, 70. He goes, I'm just putting it on him. | ||
| Just putting it on him. | ||
| Just keeping it on him. | ||
| Just staying on him. | ||
| That Robbie Lawler fight was a perfect example. | ||
| He just kept that pressure going. | ||
| Kept that pressure going. | ||
| Super small, yeah. | ||
| Robbie never got a chance. | ||
| Never had a chance to unload. | ||
| Never had a chance to fire back. | ||
| And Robbie's one of the power punches. | ||
| They look for it. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So when you get that stuff, they're looking for it. | ||
| Never comes. | ||
| And it misses because in their mind, like, I No, don't worry. | ||
| It's not this one. | ||
| The next shuffle. | ||
| And then the next shuffle comes. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| I got the next shuffle. | ||
| They keep saying the next one, but it never comes. | ||
| The opening was never there for him. | ||
| The opening was never there for him. | ||
| That was why it was so interesting to watch him versus Usman. | ||
| Because Usman has a crazy gas tank, too. | ||
| Usman's weird, right? | ||
| It was crazy. | ||
| The boat was just pretty much punching each other, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, right in front of each other. | ||
| It was basically a kickboxing match. | ||
| I mean, I don't think there was any takedown attempts, if I remember. | ||
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I don't remember any takedown attempts. | |
| Very few low kicks. | ||
| Usman threw a lot of kicks to the body. | ||
| A lot of front kicks to the body in particular. | ||
| His body work paid off big time. | ||
| You can see Kobe really faded. | ||
| Body work, baby. | ||
| Body work, man. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, the front kick to the body, too. | ||
| That was money for him. | ||
| And that left hook to the body, too. | ||
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Nice. | |
| You know, he was digging. | ||
| Oh, that was actually right hand to the body, right? | ||
| Because he was fighting orthodox. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Kobe was fighting southpaw. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, it was a... | ||
| That's a wild fight. | ||
| That was a wild fight. | ||
| Because Usman's got power and he's got cardio. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He's got both things. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Just smart use of his energy. | ||
| When you got that, like I said, it's just a mental thing. | ||
| A lot of the guys that have the power, they just kind of cut it off sometimes. | ||
| They don't rely on the other thing, like, let's get back to work and do this. | ||
| But Uzman is like a wrestler, so in his mind, he's like, I can wrestle too. | ||
| So let's just do this wrestle pressure thing with just punches. | ||
| Yeah, I would see a rematch of that fight too. | ||
| That fight would be very interesting to see a rematch because that fight was super fucking close and competitive. | ||
| Particularly on the judges' scorecards. | ||
| Once you get a fight at night, then you know it's competitive. | ||
| That's why I hate it. | ||
| Everybody's like, oh, yeah, let's get a fight at night. | ||
| I was like, no, let's not get a fight at night. | ||
| I don't want to look competitive. | ||
| I want the fight to be like, what is going on, you know? | ||
| That's my thing, bro. | ||
| Like the second Aldo fight. | ||
| Yeah, I want people to be like, wow, this guy, what's next? | ||
| Yeah, he's never going to beat him. | ||
| You want that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You want that feeling. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Well, I remember thinking that, too, because Aldo was a last-minute replacement. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, the second fight in particular, and you were like, it is what it is. | ||
| And I was like, do you know how crazy it is that this guy is talking about the greatest featherweight of all time? | ||
| He's talking about fighting him again. | ||
| He's like, it is what it is. | ||
| I'm like, that is hilarious. | ||
| If this is the guy you guys think is the greatest, let me fight him. | ||
| Like I said, everybody keeps asking me about, oh, do you want to do it? | ||
| Can we fight after seeing what he's doing? | ||
| I'm like, is Khabib a human? | ||
| He's human. | ||
| He's human just like me and you. | ||
| If you put me in an octagon, I'm going to fight him. | ||
| I'm a fighter. | ||
| And that's just it. | ||
| At the end of the day, I just want to be the greatest of all time. | ||
| And he's the guy there. | ||
| He's one of the guys there. | ||
| He's one of the guys that stood undefeated in the MMA. It's impossible to do. | ||
| So why would you not want to fight someone like that? | ||
| That's the thing that blew my mind. | ||
| Even when people were like, oh, you take it so short notice. | ||
| I'm like... | ||
| This is how legends are made. | ||
| This is why people remember your name. | ||
| They're like, why are you doing this? | ||
| I wouldn't. | ||
| Champions in MMA, Jon Jones is not defeated. | ||
| He's got this one bullshit loss. | ||
| That was one of the dumbest rules. | ||
| I remember you saying that too. | ||
| He was already finished. | ||
| The fight was done. | ||
| Yeah, he stopped him. | ||
| The fight was already done before the elbows even came into it. | ||
| When he dropped him, that's when the guy's shoulder popped out. | ||
| And Matt Hamill is staying still already. | ||
| He's getting crushed. | ||
| He was getting crushed in that fight. | ||
| It wasn't a competitive fight at all. | ||
| John was smashing him. | ||
| And then the fact that they gave that as a win to Matt Hamill is just bananas. | ||
| Doesn't make any sense. | ||
| At the very least, it should be a no contest. | ||
| He should be undefeated. | ||
| He should be undefeated. | ||
| It should be a win. | ||
| I think it should be a win. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| The fight was done when he did the trip. | ||
| He popped the shoulder and went to miles. | ||
| And then he was smashing him. | ||
| Look, this fucking rule is dumb. | ||
| This 12 to 6 elbow rule is dumb. | ||
| I don't understand how I can 12 to 6 you for standing up, like jump. | ||
| If I jump in the air and I, like, what is that, 20 jaw you? | ||
| Yeah, that's legal. | ||
| It's legal, but then once we go to the ground, it's like, I don't understand. | ||
| I don't see what is the difference of both of it, you know? | ||
| It's an old rule, and it was brought together because John McCarthy said that they were talking to the commissioners When they were first starting to establish rules. | ||
| Yeah, you said they broke ice, right? | ||
| Yeah, they'd see one of those ESPN things. | ||
| You don't see people break ice with punching fists down? | ||
| Right, they do that too. | ||
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You know what I mean? | |
| Kicking. | ||
| They use their head. | ||
| They headbutt, you know? | ||
| It's dumb. | ||
| Some guys do it like this. | ||
| Yeah, it's a dumb, dumb, dumb rule. | ||
| But anyway, the bottom line is John is undefeated. | ||
| Yeah, 100%. | ||
| And then Khabib's undefeated. | ||
| And who else? | ||
| What other champion is undefeated? | ||
| I don't think there's another one. | ||
| Cejudo's been beat. | ||
| I mean, who else? | ||
| You know, it's Khabib. | ||
| Khabib's the only one as a champion. | ||
| You know, Usman lost in one of his early fights. | ||
| Wait, in Bender style? | ||
| Is he undefeated? | ||
| No. | ||
| Well, he's undefeated in MMA. Yes. | ||
| He lost to Alex Pereira, that fucking demon. | ||
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He's listed as undefeated for MMA. Stylebender. | |
| So it's Stylebender, Jon Jones, and Khabib. | ||
| Yeah, so he's undefeated in MMA. I think he's only got one or two losses. | ||
| Is the China girl? | ||
| The China champ? | ||
| Wei Li Zhang. | ||
| Oh, she got one. | ||
| Zhang Wei Li. | ||
| You have to say it backwards now. | ||
| Zhang Wei Li. | ||
| Does she have a loss? | ||
| She's not on this list. | ||
| She's not? | ||
| It's like a list of all undefeated fighters. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| So she probably has a loss early in her career. | ||
| She's a monster, man. | ||
| That's big, too, for a girl like that to be that good and represent Chyna. | ||
| Chyna has so many people. | ||
| It's huge for the UFC. Huge. | ||
| When she fought that girl, Jessica Andrade, too, Jessica Andrade was a beast. | ||
| For her to starch her like that in the first round, very, very impressive. | ||
| That was crazy. | ||
| It's a crazy time for the sport, right? | ||
| What a time to be alive. | ||
| It's awesome. | ||
| So, how do you feel right now? | ||
| What happens now? | ||
| You relax for a couple weeks, and then you concentrate on a rematch. | ||
| Is that what happens? | ||
| We see what happens. | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| I don't... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I cannot say, oh yeah, the rematch, blah blah, this and that. | ||
| It has to be a rematch. | ||
| Let me talk for you. | ||
| If the UFC wants, if the fans want, we see what happens. | ||
| I would love that. | ||
| I'm a competitor. | ||
| Everybody's like, you don't want a rematch, this and that. | ||
| I'm like, are you stupid? | ||
| Are you dumb? | ||
| I want to fight. | ||
| This guy, I got losses on my record. | ||
| I want to fight every single one of them again. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| That's just how I am. | ||
| I'm a competitor. | ||
| We compete. | ||
| And if it's the rematch, it's the rematch. | ||
| You know, if it's not, if it's a different weight class, different weight class. | ||
| If it's up a couple of weight, I don't give it... | ||
| I just want to be the world's best fighter ever. | ||
| And I want the most interesting fights. | ||
| If you guys want to see me fight somebody, let me know. | ||
| Whoever you want to see me fight, you guys think it's real gangsters. | ||
| Whoever you guys think a real gangsters fight is, let me have my chops at them. | ||
| Beautiful. | ||
| I love that attitude, man. | ||
| That's one of the reasons why you're so popular. | ||
| It really is. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| It's beautiful, man. | ||
| And fun to talk to you, man. | ||
| I really enjoyed it. | ||
| We finally did it. | ||
| We made it happen, brother. | ||
| We made it happen. | ||
| I'm still going to ask you every time after the fight. | ||
| We've got to keep it going. | ||
| Any time, man. | ||
| Let's keep it going after every fight. | ||
| Come on in, man. | ||
| Every fight in Vegas is real close. | ||
| Come on in. | ||
| Follow him on Instagram. | ||
| Follow him on Twitter. | ||
| Max Holloway, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| Thank you, brother. | ||
| Appreciate it. | ||
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Thank you, brother. | |
| Thank you. | ||
| We did it, Max. | ||
| That was good. |
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