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Feb. 1, 2011 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience #76 - Bobby Lee
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bobby lee
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brian redban
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unidentified
Oh, shoot.
Oh.
The Joe Rogan Experience.
It's sexy too because it's English.
bobby lee
Yeah, who?
Do you know that person?
joe rogan
No, she's not even real.
bobby lee
She's a robot.
joe rogan
But I just think of her as some dirty bitch in England.
bobby lee
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
She's really dedicated to working for me.
unidentified
Cricket feet?
joe rogan
Yeah.
No, no, no.
Nice feet.
bobby lee
Oh, she does?
joe rogan
She's hot.
bobby lee
Oh, she is.
joe rogan
She's a fake.
bobby lee
Weird teeth, though.
joe rogan
I don't mind.
A little space here and there.
bobby lee
It makes you work harder.
Space is fine.
It's the discoloration I can do.
joe rogan
I'm not down with gray.
bobby lee
Not even gray, but you know how sometimes they have like six different colors?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Or like bottle rot.
When did you stop sucking on your banky hooker?
Ladies and gentlemen, Bobby Lee has joined us!
unidentified
Yes!
joe rogan
Finally!
bobby lee
I mean, your army.
You have an army out there.
joe rogan
Dude, not mine, man.
bobby lee
They have their own.
joe rogan
Speaking of army, before we get started, we have to do business.
We are sponsored by The Fleshlight.
If you go to fleshlight.com or if you go to JoeRogan.net, there's a link for The Fleshlight.
Click on it and enter in the code name ROGAN. You get 15% off.
bobby lee
I have one.
joe rogan
You ever use one of those?
I have one.
bobby lee
The thing is, is those beads.
joe rogan
Have you seen the blue one?
brian redban
The beads.
joe rogan
The avatar one?
bobby lee
No, it looks like a flashlight, right?
brian redban
Right.
bobby lee
And you stick the thing inside it, right?
Yeah, that one.
I have that.
I have these little beads that you turn on.
brian redban
You stick your balls in it.
bobby lee
I know, but there's these beads on mine that you put in and it vibrates.
It's three beads and it goes on the side.
If you open that up, you can put beads inside.
But the beads only last five minutes, right?
And I take ten minutes to do it.
joe rogan
Oh, so the last five minutes you're just holding your breath?
bobby lee
No, I have a whole system in the side.
I have all these batteries.
joe rogan
Well, why don't you just have two?
And then you have two fleshlights, and so you have one on standby.
bobby lee
Because cleaning them is a half an hour thing.
joe rogan
Half an hour?
What, do you use a toothbrush?
bobby lee
No, no, no.
I use hot oil.
joe rogan
You use hot oil to clean them?
bobby lee
No, no, no.
joe rogan
What, from the Gulf?
bobby lee
No, no, no.
No, I microwave oil for five seconds.
joe rogan
And then you get it warm.
bobby lee
You can't do it too hot.
I did it once, and I scalded my thighs.
unidentified
Ah!
joe rogan
Oh no!
bobby lee
Yeah, but it burns.
But yeah, you put the oil in it.
And then you put the beads in it.
It vibrates.
It's so good.
I've never heard of it.
It's like making love to an android, which is my fantasy dream.
But the beads run out of energy.
joe rogan
So only five minutes for these whack-ass beads, huh?
bobby lee
Yeah, and brand new.
You have to put three of those watch batteries, the little tiny ones, in them.
brian redban
What?
bobby lee
Three tiny watch batteries.
You're talking about $30 a pop when you're doing it.
joe rogan
Wow.
brian redban
Where do you get these beads?
I've never even heard of these beads.
bobby lee
Open that up.
I bet you there's bead slots.
brian redban
No.
bobby lee
Take the...
brian redban
Are you sure you're not talking about a competitor?
bobby lee
No, that's it.
joe rogan
You tell me what the slots are.
bobby lee
On mine, I have three slots here.
joe rogan
Oh, so yours is designed for it specifically?
It is a flashlight, but it's a different one.
unidentified
It's a different one.
bobby lee
You stick in there and go...
joe rogan
Oh, maybe you've got a vibrator model or something.
brian redban
Oh, yes, they do have the vibrator models.
I remember seeing that.
bobby lee
Yeah, yeah, I have that one.
brian redban
But it's the same.
bobby lee
It looks exactly the same.
joe rogan
It's a very...
You know, this is a controversial thing, man.
I do a whole series of...
I do a whole bit about it on stage, but this really is controversy.
bobby lee
Why?
joe rogan
Because people didn't want me getting sponsored by a fake vagina.
bobby lee
Why?
joe rogan
Like, somehow or another, it's bad for your reputation.
brian redban
Does it really take you 10 minutes to come?
bobby lee
Yeah, because...
brian redban
Now, when you have regular sex, does it take you 10 minutes?
bobby lee
No.
brian redban
It takes you longer?
bobby lee
Can I say something?
Can I say something to you?
joe rogan
Sure.
bobby lee
I'm being very specific on my porn.
The thing is that I need the interview.
You know the interview?
joe rogan
The interview where the girl sits down, so where you're from?
bobby lee
I'm from Ohio.
How much porn have you done?
Not that much.
This is my second time.
Or first.
And I need to sense a little fear.
Inner voice, right?
And then check it out.
You know the first time when they do it?
The first timers?
When the penis goes in the vagina, I have to look at their eyes.
In the eyes, they have to question their decision.
joe rogan
That's how you get excited?
bobby lee
Yeah, you know how when the penis goes in, they have to go, Mom?
joe rogan
Do you associate that with any past sexual experiences where you see the look in the girl's eyes?
She's like, what the fuck is Bobby Lee doing inside me?
unidentified
And then you get excited, like, tricked him again, Josie!
No, no, no.
bobby lee
I think what it is is this.
I think that my penis, it's not even an ethnic thing, but my penis is abnormally small.
I don't care about it because, you know what I mean, I'm rapping.
brian redban
Like how small?
bobby lee
It's just small.
brian redban
Like thumb?
unidentified
Like your thumb?
bobby lee
No, yeah, it's thicker than that.
brian redban
Alright.
bobby lee
But the thing is, is that, and girls, you know, they like my bubbly personality.
I'm like a Dreamweaver, you know what I mean?
And, you know what I mean?
joe rogan
You're fun.
bobby lee
Yeah, I'm a cute, you know what I mean?
I tickle, you know what I mean?
I giggle.
joe rogan
You're fun to be around.
bobby lee
Yeah, I giggle.
joe rogan
You bring a party.
bobby lee
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
And so then all of a sudden this party's fucking your mouth.
You're like, hey.
bobby lee
Yeah, and when I'm out with a girl, I look in their eyes and I've never had the sensation of like...
Them going, oh, you know what I mean?
Like, it's too big.
joe rogan
Right.
bobby lee
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
I have a friend of mine who had that same problem, and so what he started doing was getting, he got a strap on.
He got this crazy thing that covers his dick.
And it was like, his dick would go on, and then this big fake dick would go over his dick.
And we were talking to him about it.
We were like, well, what's up?
What are you doing that for?
And he goes, just once, I want to see a girl have a hard time taking it.
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
They can always take it so easy.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
I'm never hurting them.
brian redban
So are you really big into anal?
bobby lee
No, I don't do that.
brian redban
You think you would be, though, because most girls, even with your small dick, would be like, hey.
bobby lee
No, no, no, no.
Because for me, it's like, I want them to have pleasure, too.
joe rogan
Some girls like it.
brian redban
I know a girl that likes anal better than regular sex.
She just wants anal all the time.
joe rogan
Yeah, there are girls, and they're called broken.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Those are the ones that also light your house on fire, by the way.
bobby lee
I also imagine if you do an anal and you don't have a condom on, that the poop goes into my hole.
joe rogan
It does.
bobby lee
And I don't need that in my life.
joe rogan
We talked about a terrible scene.
Did we talk about that on the podcast?
The Nani show thing?
brian redban
Yeah, we did it last time.
Poop snakes are actually cool.
What?
joe rogan
Shut up.
bobby lee
What's a poop snake?
Stop it.
brian redban
When you piss after anal sex and there's a little poop snake come out.
bobby lee
No, I don't need that in my life.
brian redban
You should try it.
bobby lee
He's just talking about it.
joe rogan
He's being silly.
He does this all the time.
You can't take him seriously.
bobby lee
You've never had a poop snake.
Be honest.
brian redban
Never.
I've tried poop smell, though, and that was the worst.
joe rogan
There's a girl I was having sex with a long time ago.
Back when I was 21, I lost my boner because I was banging her doggy style and I saw poop around her butthole.
I realized that she didn't really wipe that good.
And then I started smelling it because of the funk of the sex and the sweat.
bobby lee
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Do you wetnap it?
Do you ever do that?
joe rogan
My butt?
Yeah.
bobby lee
Yeah, I wetnap my butt.
brian redban
Oh, baby.
Yeah.
bobby lee
And that's respect.
joe rogan
You can't flush those.
bobby lee
That's respect, right?
joe rogan
You cannot flush those.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
You got to wipe yourself first, and then you got to get the baby wipes, and then you got to throw the baby wipes away, which is kind of gross.
bobby lee
Why can't you flush baby wipes?
joe rogan
Well, if you live in an apartment, go flush away.
But if you live in a house, eventually they're going to get clogged up and you're going to have to have a group of dudes come in your backyard and find this pipe stuffed full of your shit rags.
brian redban
Are you sure you weren't using them breakables?
joe rogan
No, bro.
I use flushable baby wipes.
brian redban
The flushable ones dissolve.
joe rogan
They never break.
They don't.
That's the thing.
They pretend they do.
They don't really.
They become like goo.
They don't dissolve like toilet paper.
brian redban
Oh, they become goo.
joe rogan
And they get tied up on things.
Like if you have, like in my area, we have issues with, because we're kind of rural, we have issues with trees growing into your pipes.
You know, it's an issue like, well, there's so many trees out here, the trees will like grow through like a crack in the pipe.
unidentified
Ah.
joe rogan
One of them became like a goddamn tree.
I mean, I posted pictures of it on Twitter.
It's so ridiculous, nobody even fucking believes it.
My toilet was clogged.
I couldn't figure out what was going on with it, so I had these plumbers come out.
They pulled a fucking eight-foot tree out of my toilet.
bobby lee
Oh, my God.
joe rogan
Maybe not eight foot.
How big was it?
At least five feet.
brian redban
Yeah, like five feet.
joe rogan
It was pretty long.
It was like...
It was like your height.
brian redban
No bullshit.
It looked like a muppet, like a swamp thing.
joe rogan
It looked like some sort of an animal, like somebody flushed some wood rat.
bobby lee
Are you worried that if they open up the pipe, they're stuffed with wet naps, but can't you just say it's my children's?
joe rogan
No, it's mine.
I don't give up.
I'll fucking own it.
I'm not going to throw my kids under the bus.
bobby lee
All right, all right.
joe rogan
That's ridiculous.
Well, you're not supposed to be...
The diaper wipes, you definitely don't flush, because they're really thick and coarse.
I mean, not coarse, but strong.
They would not break up, definitely.
But flushable baby wipes, those bitches don't break up either.
The guy told me, no, they say they break up.
People say, because I pulled them out of people's pipes all the time.
So they had to dig a hole.
But it was really...
The issue, more or less, was that there was a root that was blocking part of the area.
Not as bad as the one that was in the toilet.
The one that was in the toilet was fucking ridiculous.
I'll find it and I'll repost that shit on Twitter because it's just so silly.
It doesn't even make sense.
It's so silly.
It really didn't look real.
Like, I couldn't believe it.
That was after I'd moved to Colorado, so I'd left the house for a couple months and nobody was flushing.
brian redban
Yeah, I just wish masturbating lasted longer for me.
Because to me, it's just like I seriously have to focus on slowing it down all the time.
joe rogan
Why not just get it done?
What are you trying to do there, fella?
brian redban
No, that's with sex and everything.
I just need to slow it down.
joe rogan
With masturbation though, isn't that like you're just trying to get it over with?
brian redban
Yeah, but I like to enjoy it, you know?
joe rogan
Do you really?
brian redban
I mean, it feels good when you're doing it, right?
So why not have it go for like 10 minutes?
bobby lee
Well, the other day when I was in New York, I tried to masturbate to porn on the internet.
I couldn't finish.
So then after about an hour, I finished half hard.
And you always feel like a failure because my orgasm was like 50%.
And I just sat there with this marshmallow in my hand, just sitting there naked, sweating.
I failed at that.
joe rogan
I know what you're saying, man.
bobby lee
I couldn't even finish that off.
brian redban
Wow.
joe rogan
I do feel you.
brian redban
Me and Bobby were talking about how when we stay at hotels, we hate when the maid comes in.
bobby lee
Don't come to my room.
brian redban
Don't ever come to my room.
And I didn't tell you that, but I did a Spider-Man at the last hotel we were at, and it must have hit the lamp because it started smoking.
joe rogan
What are you talking about?
brian redban
Where I do Spider-Man in a hotel, where I throw...
joe rogan
Brian, people listening?
brian redban
Well, we've talked about Spider-Man before.
joe rogan
No one listens to everything.
I don't know what the fuck you're saying.
brian redban
When I masturbate in hotels, I'm like, fuck this, I'm in this hotel.
And I just throw the sperm at the wall like Spider-Man.
Or I throw it across the room.
bobby lee
And it still connects to your wrist?
brian redban
No, it doesn't connect to my wrist.
bobby lee
And you can swing it through the room?
unidentified
No.
bobby lee
That's so disrespectful.
Because some poor Mexican lady has to clean it.
I'm so mad.
brian redban
It's so rude.
It's clear.
They don't clean it.
bobby lee
Yeah, but it dries, and then flakes, and you don't know what it is.
joe rogan
It's pretty obvious, dude.
bobby lee
But you know they think it's either mucus, or you know what I mean?
joe rogan
Or a load.
bobby lee
Or a load, yeah.
brian redban
I can't even see where it goes.
Once I hit a picture frame, and I was like, oh, I better clean that up.
bobby lee
It's so disrespectful.
joe rogan
Once you hit a picture.
brian redban
Or like a picture on the wall.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You got issues.
Masturbate and trying to enjoy yourself.
When I masturbate, it's for maintenance.
Just get it over with.
Done.
brian redban
Enjoy it.
joe rogan
And then move it on.
brian redban
It's even better.
A towel.
And she'll definitely touch the towels.
joe rogan
The problem with getting into masturbating is then you like Ari had that joke about having a bunch of windows open trying to figure out what to jerk off to.
You can get weird and obsessed.
You can get kind of...
bobby lee
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
You get a little caught up in it.
And there's some dudes who, you know, they get so caught up in porn, it becomes like a legit addiction where, like, they'll have a conversation with someone and they just can't wait to go away to their computer real quick and just look at porn videos.
bobby lee
I have to pay for my porn, though.
joe rogan
Really?
bobby lee
I can't do grainy.
It has to be high def.
joe rogan
Oh, really?
bobby lee
You have to be able to see the freckles.
joe rogan
You're the last guy.
The last guy buying porn.
bobby lee
Yeah, yeah, I really am.
joe rogan
Talk about a business that just got gutted.
bobby lee
I know.
joe rogan
I mean, that used to be a multi-millionaire business.
I mean, there was some billion-dollar business, right?
There were so many people in my neighborhood that were porn producers.
They'd be driving around in Ferraris, living a good life.
And I'd be like, look at this wild-ass rebel just filming fucking and making a billion dollars.
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's crazy.
It's kind of a weird thing.
There'd be a curiosity in the community.
All these mommies would look at him.
That's the porn guy.
That's where the porn guy lives.
The porn guy.
But now those guys aren't making shit.
That's done.
Done, son.
See ya.
If you're lucky, you can get bi now.
brian redban
And if you're lucky, you get Charlie Sheen.
joe rogan
Well, look at these hookers.
These hookers can't stop talking about Charlie Sheen.
They're doing interviews.
I heard someone on Stern this morning.
Fucking Good Morning America interviewed one of the girls that fucked Charlie Sheen.
Way to go, Good Morning America, you whores.
Congratulations.
You are now Us Magazine.
bobby lee
And he allows you in his house, gives you free cocaine.
You get to watch movies that haven't even come out yet on DVD. You want to watch True Grit?
Oh, that's out in the theaters.
I have it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bobby lee
Right?
unidentified
They're doing cold.
joe rogan
You wanna watch Avatar 2?
I've got a rough cut.
bobby lee
Yeah.
They even made that thing.
You know what I mean?
And then they disrespect him by, you know, ratting him out.
joe rogan
Of course.
Yeah.
They're not his friends.
Could you imagine if that was your friend?
Imagine if a dude came over your house.
Forget about sex.
Just a dude came over your house and had, you know, hey, we all watched fucking TV at Bobby Lee's house.
He got nutty.
He takes his pants off, runs through.
And all of a sudden this dude is on, you know, the radio on Monday and he's telling the whole story about what he did hanging out at your house when you got crazy.
It's disrespectful.
Who the fuck is this guy?
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
You're like, that guy will never hang out at my house again.
Fuck this idiot.
bobby lee
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
brian redban
Can you imagine that shit?
Can you imagine being that little kid from Two and a Half Men, how much tail Charlie throws his way?
Hey, I got this daughter, this girl I fuck.
bobby lee
The kid's like 12. Shut up.
Is he?
brian redban
I think he's old now.
bobby lee
And also, that kid is so mad, probably, because the show can get canceled.
brian redban
Oh, right.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, they could all lose.
They're trying to say all sorts of shit, like, oh, there's Appendix Burke.
He had a hernia.
bobby lee
That kid's pissed, man.
joe rogan
Well, they all are.
It's the biggest show on television.
And by the way...
This is only helping it.
It's only helping it.
People are not going to stop.
Charlie Sheen is fucking, for whatever reason, man, he's grandfathered in.
Charlie Sheen ain't going nowhere.
He could do coke all day.
He could bang hookers.
He could threaten his wife with a knife.
It doesn't matter.
He's fucking smiling on camera on Monday.
brian redban
I like how the LA police won't even do any investigations to these alleged cocaine briefcase charges.
I was like, wait a second.
If somebody has a briefcase of cocaine, maybe you should find out what the fuck.
joe rogan
No, no, no, no.
brian redban
That was Ohio, they would.
joe rogan
First of all, it's all hearsay.
You can't take this hooker's word for it.
Or porn star, whoever's saying it.
First of all, there's that.
And then second of all, what are you going to do?
You're going to question him about whether or not he had cocaine for real?
And he's going to say no.
And then he's going to say, where's your evidence?
Where's this from?
And then the evidence is just some girl talking about it.
Unless that girl wants to go in and talk to the government.
And what does she know?
She knows a guy came over with cocaine.
You were doing cocaine, so you were doing something illegal too.
Yeah, well, sorry.
Does Charlie pay you to fuck?
Yeah.
You know that's prostitution.
Can I call my lawyer?
Come on, man.
brian redban
TMZ has this awesome article on yesterday where Charlie Sheen's old friend or publicist or something like that used to hang in his life and get in a lot of trouble with him.
And then he kind of disappeared for a few years.
Well, lately he's been hanging out with this guy again.
So they found him the other day.
joe rogan
Charlie's been hanging out with this guy.
brian redban
Yeah, Charlie's been hanging out with this guy again recently.
And so they found him yesterday walking on the street somewhere in Sunset or something.
And he had an Enjoy Coke shirt on.
And they're like, huh, interesting.
joe rogan
Oh my God.
bobby lee
It's also a testimony of what a great actor Charlie Sheen is.
What?
Just listen.
Listen to my theory, dude.
Listen to my theory, okay?
When you act, some actors get acting coaches, right?
They get the script, right?
They memorize their lines.
They have to go to table reads rehearsals.
This dude just shows up, you know what I mean?
Just after a two-night bender, right?
joe rogan
Once you've been on a sitcom for that long, it becomes very easy.
News radio, the last couple seasons was super easy.
News radio, we were working three days a week.
It was so easy.
And we would get a script, and then we'd fuck around with it for a couple of days, and then we'd put it up on Friday.
bobby lee
A sweatshop.
And no one watched it.
joe rogan
You guys worked hard, and you guys had weird guidance, man.
bobby lee
Yeah, we had nine Mexicans watch.
joe rogan
Those two dudes that were running it, man, those guys had odd tastes.
bobby lee
Oh, it was the weirdest show I've ever heard.
joe rogan
I hosted it once, and that's one of the times...
I knew you before that, though, right?
bobby lee
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
I hope that's where I met Brian Cowan and I hosted it once and I remember like talking to them about my like they wanted me to do a monologue and it's just like you know so I'm like all right I'll talk about this and I'll talk about that and yeah you know all right but it was just it was a real awkward I was like how the fuck did these guys get to be running some sort of a sketch show no it was the weirdest sketch show ever not only that it's like no one there was no like idea like people could just walk in We're a TV show.
bobby lee
I just had people walk and go, hey, in my hallway where my dressing room is.
Hey, man, what's up?
Who are you?
I'm watching the show.
How are you back here?
joe rogan
How'd they get back there?
bobby lee
I don't know.
joe rogan
No security.
bobby lee
I don't know.
Why did you guys film at?
I never met a security guard.
joe rogan
No security.
bobby lee
No, it was on Highland in Santa Monica.
joe rogan
It did sort of seem like a factory.
bobby lee
It seemed weird.
joe rogan
It didn't seem like a regular show.
bobby lee
And then we would have big storms sometimes.
Like Jackie Chan did it once.
Like, what are you doing here?
You're legitimate.
You know what I mean?
You're an international superstar.
joe rogan
It went on forever, too.
bobby lee
Yeah, and I behaved like a fucking asshole toward the end.
I pooped in Lauren Dombrowski's office floor.
On her floor?
Yeah, because I was so mad at her.
joe rogan
Why were you mad at her?
bobby lee
Because they deceive you.
joe rogan
Really?
Lauren Debrowski did?
bobby lee
No, she passed away.
joe rogan
I know.
I knew her from back in Boston when she was on a comedy team.
unidentified
I love her.
bobby lee
She saved my life.
unidentified
Really?
bobby lee
Yeah, yeah.
I love Lauren.
joe rogan
And the shit on her floor because you love her?
bobby lee
No, but it was as a joke and there were two actors writing in there.
Ike and Nicole Parker were writing and I go, stick this Tums in your asshole.
Just for a joke.
unidentified
Tums?
bobby lee
Tums.
joe rogan
Okay.
bobby lee
So I stuck it in my butthole and then my butthole started foaming and then they both started laughing like really loud and then I shot the Tums out of my butthole and then a piece of poop came up after that, right?
And it was a huge laugh and then Lauren, poor Lauren, you know, walks in and she sees a Tums that's foaming and a piece of poop on the floor and I had to clean it up.
So stuff like that, you know what I mean?
Right.
Because when no one watches it and like we had free ranges to act just as crazy as...
joe rogan
Why was it so bad?
bobby lee
What was bad is because there's no real boss, right?
And also what happened was Fox didn't own it.
Warner Brothers did, right?
And so Warner Brothers didn't care about it, right?
Fox didn't care about it.
joe rogan
Right.
bobby lee
And no one watched it.
And I don't know how it stayed on.
But every year they would go, yeah, you're going to come back.
I go, really?
unidentified
Yeah.
bobby lee
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
You and I used to have these conversations at the back of the comedy store where you didn't know what to do.
You're like, I don't know what to do.
I mean, they're giving me X amount of dollars a week.
It's a steady job, but it's fucking terrible.
bobby lee
It's terrible.
joe rogan
You fucking hated it, dude.
bobby lee
Oh, I hated it.
I mean, at five in the morning, you'd show up, no one's there.
joe rogan
You would have this look on your face, man, sometimes.
You would have this look on your face where you're just like, you didn't know what to do.
bobby lee
I cried a lot.
joe rogan
You fucking hated it.
bobby lee
I cried so much on that job.
joe rogan
So at 5 in the morning, you mean when you'd show up for work?
bobby lee
5 o'clock call, you'd show up.
There's no one there.
unidentified
No one?
bobby lee
Yeah.
And then at 5.45, people start showing up.
I go, why did you call me?
Who runs this thing?
joe rogan
Right.
bobby lee
You know?
joe rogan
Call times are always brutal.
bobby lee
Oh, I hate it.
joe rogan
I hate when they get you in early justice.
bobby lee
They lie.
They're liars.
unidentified
They are liars.
You know what I mean?
bobby lee
You show up at 5, and then you shoot at 8 at night.
joe rogan
Right.
bobby lee
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
Right.
Because, well, first of all, because comedians are irresponsible.
You have to take that into account.
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
You are, I am...
Joey Diaz is the most irresponsible person I've ever met in my fucking life.
Ari's fairly responsible, but even him is pretty nuts.
bobby lee
Another time I got in trouble, they sued me.
One of the actors tried to sue me.
joe rogan
Really?
bobby lee
It was her first day of work.
She finally gets on a sketch show.
She's on Mad Men and she was on the cover of Playboy.
joe rogan
What's her name?
bobby lee
Her name is Krista Flanagan.
joe rogan
Hold on, we're going to Google it.
bobby lee
Playboy, put that on.
Christa with a C? Yeah, C-R-I-S-T-A. One of my best friends in the whole world.
joe rogan
She is?
bobby lee
Yeah, she is.
joe rogan
How do you spell her last name?
bobby lee
Flanagan.
unidentified
F-L-A-N-A-G-A-N. You guys, you have very weird friendships.
bobby lee
Why?
brian redban
Because, you know, you're friends with somebody, you poop on their floor, you're friends with somebody, you get sued.
joe rogan
So you said she was in Playboy?
bobby lee
No, but yeah, but Flanagan didn't know me.
Her first day of work, five in the morning, she shows up and we had rehearsals in the actor's rehearsal hall.
And she's sitting on the couch.
I had no idea who she was.
She was eating yogurt.
Okay.
So I was so early.
I'm delirious.
I had like 30 minutes of sleep.
I walked up to her.
I grabbed the back of her head and I farted in her mouth while she was in yogurt.
Right.
She starts crying.
Joe, she started crying.
Right.
So then Ron Peterson, who you know who Ron Peterson is, right?
joe rogan
No.
bobby lee
The guy that went out with Natasha, you know, that whole thing?
brian redban
Oh, yeah.
bobby lee
You know what the whole controversy between people are.
joe rogan
I know with Ari.
I know there was a controversy with Ari.
bobby lee
Where Natasha left with a mad TV guy, Ron Peterson is the guy.
joe rogan
She's very pretty.
She farted in her mouth.
You're a confident man.
What made you so confident to fart in this pretty girl's face?
brian redban
I would fart in her mouth.
bobby lee
So then Ron Peterson physically attacked me, Mike McDonald on the show.
joe rogan
While you farted her?
bobby lee
No, after that because she started crying.
joe rogan
Right.
So you farted.
bobby lee
In her mouth.
joe rogan
In her mouth.
bobby lee
With yogurt.
joe rogan
Okay.
unidentified
She was eating yogurt.
joe rogan
So she's eating.
You come by.
You fart in her mouth.
When you grabbed her, did your butt touch her face?
bobby lee
No, I had my jeans on.
joe rogan
Right.
But did your jeans touch her face?
bobby lee
But you know how it's powerful that you can go through two layers of underwear and jeans?
joe rogan
You felt a strong one.
bobby lee
Yeah, like that.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
A lot of push behind it.
bobby lee
It doesn't go...
joe rogan
Did your genes come in contact with her skin?
bobby lee
Yes.
joe rogan
Really?
bobby lee
With her lips.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
bobby lee
Right in her mouth.
She started crying, and then check it out.
joe rogan
So who attacks you?
bobby lee
So Ron Peterson attacks me, right?
joe rogan
What does this Ron Peterson look like?
bobby lee
He's a Canadian comedian, actor.
joe rogan
So he comes after you.
bobby lee
Yeah, and Mike McDonald puts him in a headlock.
joe rogan
Puts Peterson in a headlock?
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
Is he punching you?
bobby lee
Because he's physically attacking me.
People do that to me all the time.
They just want to physically assault me.
I'm just one of those guys.
So then two days later, my manager, Abby, we had to sit there in front of the mad TV lawyers, and there was an awkward moment where they have it on tape.
They go, explain to me what happened.
unidentified
So I go, I showed up at work.
bobby lee
And I'm like, I see this girl.
I don't know where.
She's eating yogurt.
She opened her mouth.
Anyway, I farted in her face.
In her mouth.
And then there was a 15 second awkward pause.
You know what I mean?
Where people were like writing things down.
You know what I mean?
And then one guy just says, why?
Right?
And I go...
You know what I mean?
And they showed up.
So I made a deal where I bought her a $500 gift certificate to Burke Williams.
Gave it to her the next couple of days.
And I wrote her into a popular sketch that I did.
And everything was fine.
Became very good friends.
brian redban
Damn, fart in my mouth and make it Best Buy.
joe rogan
Wow, man.
You know, it's an unfortunate thing when people try to fuck around on sets and just have fun.
You never know right before you do something sometimes if it's too far.
Patrice O'Neill had a really funny point once where Patrice was talking about Imus.
About when Imus got in trouble for saying something about black people.
bobby lee
Remember that?
Yeah.
joe rogan
And he said that no one knows exactly what the fuck they're going to say before they say things like that.
And sometimes you say things that are across the line.
But that's where all funny comes from.
If it misses or it hits, it's still coming from the same place.
It's just trying to get a laugh.
And he's totally right.
bobby lee
That's what it is.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's like people that aren't in the comedy business, man, they don't really understand that.
In order to be really funny, you can't really have very many boundaries.
bobby lee
And you know where we're from.
We're from like, you know...
joe rogan
The store.
bobby lee
The store guys like that.
joe rogan
I have so many pictures of you naked, dude.
bobby lee
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
I have pictures of you tucked, standing in the middle of the...
bobby lee
I've been assaulted there.
I've been raped there.
unidentified
I've been...
bobby lee
All kinds of things have happened growing up in the...
joe rogan
I have a series of pictures of you with your pants down at the Comedy Store from over the years, where most of them he has his dick tucked in between his legs, and his legs pinched together, and your shirt is off.
bobby lee
Probably on a Sunday, too.
Who cares, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, it's probably a Tuesday.
bobby lee
And then you show up at a corporate workplace, like a network show, and you bring that into there, and they're like, no.
joe rogan
Yeah, no, no, no.
Yeah, when we were on news radio, there was a lot of chaos for a while because they would let us drink on the set.
So we would be done with the show and we would get fucking hammered.
We would get so hammered that no one knows this because I never took...
I shouldn't have done this.
We blamed it on some band.
We had a band that was at our studio or on the stage.
I forget what the band was.
Some, like, very heavy metal band.
So it was perfect, like, to blame it on them.
bobby lee
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
And they were in a scene with us.
God, I want to say Anthrax.
Was that a band?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
They were, right?
One dude had a shaved head.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
So, anyway, we were all hanging around.
It was me and Dave Foley and Maura Tierney just fucking smashed.
Smashed.
And then we're hungry.
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
And Maura goes, we can only get in the craft service room.
And I'm like, I can get in that room.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And I fucking Taekwondo'd the door.
I kicked the door, smashed the door frame.
Really?
Yeah, one kick.
I kicked open the door and went inside and we fucking chowed down, opened up the fridge, and then they were so pissed the next day they're blaming it on the band.
And we were like, yeah, that's fucked up.
Like, that's terrible.
Those guys were fucking...
And they were gonna, like, stop drinking on the set because of it.
Andy would get smashed.
bobby lee
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
And Andy would bring these shady fucking characters over.
It would just be strange smells coming out of this fucking dressing room.
It was just a fun, fun set, man.
That's the thing.
You don't get real good comedy unless you get the type of people that don't have that many boundaries.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
People that'll go out there.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
People that have pulled their fucking pants down.
All my friends that are comics, they pull their pants down.
They do stupid shit.
They say, I dare you to go do this.
They're probably going to do it if it's funny.
bobby lee
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I've seen like nine, ten comics penises over the last week, so You know what I mean?
Like Chris D'Elia's, Polly's.
I've seen Polly Short's penis, I'm not even lying, 832 times over a lifetime.
You know what I mean?
And it's just, I didn't ask.
brian redban
Chris D'Elia's penis look like Al Magical's penis?
bobby lee
D'Elia's penis, by the way, is very large.
joe rogan
Okay.
bobby lee
Yeah, yeah.
Anyway, but people don't know...
joe rogan
Tell that to Al Magical.
bobby lee
Was Magical's penis big?
joe rogan
No.
brian redban
No, it's pretty large too, I guess.
bobby lee
No, I don't think it is.
It's impossible.
joe rogan
That Al Magical has a big dick?
bobby lee
Yeah, it's impossible.
brian redban
Really?
How come?
bobby lee
I don't think so.
Because he's a-Hispanic.
joe rogan
What are you talking about?
Hispanics don't have little dicks.
brian redban
They have huge monster dicks.
joe rogan
How many Mexicans are you blowing?
bobby lee
No, no, they're not blowing any Mexicans.
joe rogan
What are you talking about?
bobby lee
They have big penises.
joe rogan
They don't have small ones.
bobby lee
But they're not the black, big penis people.
They're not black people.
joe rogan
But neither are Irish people.
Well, Irish people are supposedly small penises.
brian redban
No, they have thick penises.
joe rogan
Irish curse.
bobby lee
To me, the only difference between a Mexican guy and an Asian guy, except for culturally, but physically I'm talking about, is the eyes.
unidentified
What?
bobby lee
Yeah, the eyes.
If you take a Mexican guy, you get him really high, he's fucking from Okinawa.
brian redban
You're right.
joe rogan
Well, they are Asian, really, because what American Indians are, it's people that came down from the Bering Strait.
bobby lee
That's right.
Well, some people have a different theory that mankind started in America and they went the other way.
joe rogan
Hmm.
Well, you know, that's also possible.
Human beings have been around so long, they've made a bunch of recent discoveries that have way, way, way pushed back the dates of civilization.
We were talking about this on the podcast recently about Crete.
It's an island that's 40 miles away from the shore and it's been that way for over 5 million years.
And they found these stone tools that may be as old as 700,000 years old.
They're at least 100,000 years old.
So they know 100,000 years ago, dudes were getting on boats and traveling 40 miles.
I mean, that's amazing shit.
You know, there's a lot of shit we don't know about people, man.
There's a lot of shit we don't know about people.
But as far as like, what we do know is that the people that were in Asia are the same people that were North American Indians.
And then North American Indians got fucked by Spaniards and they created Mexicans.
That's what it is.
That's why some Mexicans look like Indians.
They look like, you know, you could just make a fucking headdress and he'd be sitting bull, you know?
bobby lee
And what else people don't understand is that, you know, Japanese and Koreans, which I'm Korean, right?
We have cacazoid strains in our DNA because there's, you know, we're from Mongolia.
unidentified
Right.
bobby lee
And they're so close to Russia, right, that it mixed a little bit.
joe rogan
Sure.
bobby lee
You know what I mean?
So we have that, you know what I mean?
So I'm kind of white.
joe rogan
Well, Russia, there's a lot of parts of Russia, like Siberia especially, where the people look very Asian.
bobby lee
They look like Bjork.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bobby lee
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
So they have a weird, you know, sort of an Inuit look to them.
Yeah, it's a trip, man.
It's really a trip about Asians.
The real trip is the stereotype that they look exactly the same.
And they don't, of course, look exactly the same.
I don't have to tell you that.
But it is kind of weird that you have an entire group of people with narrow eyes and the same color skin and black hair.
I mean, there's like zero variation.
That's crazy that there's a billion people like that.
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
A billion plus, really.
I mean, that's really amazing when you look at the very minute amount of variation as opposed to European countries and even African countries.
bobby lee
But let me say something to you, okay?
It's just that, okay, I ran into you and Eddie once at the Sherman Oaks Galleria.
You guys were working out at the gym there, okay?
And I was maybe 100 feet away from you, right?
And there was probably 20 other Asians in my area, right?
unidentified
Right.
bobby lee
And you from a hundred yards go, Bobby.
And I turned around, right?
brian redban
Was it like that too?
Like, hey, Bobby.
bobby lee
Yeah, you yelled from like a hundred yards.
joe rogan
So I talk at the gym.
bobby lee
Yeah, yeah.
No, it wasn't in the gym.
It was outside the gym, right?
It was outside the gym.
And so you recognized me from a hundred yards away amongst Asians.
So we don't look alike.
joe rogan
Well, Bobby, I know who you are.
bobby lee
We're friends.
joe rogan
My eyes are good.
bobby lee
I'm healthy.
I eat carrots.
So what I'm saying is that we do have differences.
joe rogan
Sure, you have variations in the same theme.
The same theme over and over again.
unidentified
Is that what you're saying?
joe rogan
Yeah, the same skin color.
Look, this is not racist.
There's a bunch of people right now.
This is not dedicated to you.
This is dedicated to the people that will start fucking complaining either on a message board or on Twitter.
I heard that shit you said about Asians.
It's so racist.
No, it's just an observation.
bobby lee
I don't find it racist.
joe rogan
To me, it's a fascinating thing.
There's nothing negative about it.
But what's fascinating is that, especially in China and Japan, there are a gigantic group of people that look very, very similar.
And there's not a lot of black influence.
bobby lee
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Not a lot of European influence.
The fact that they were able to stay so pure for so long is really quite shocking.
When you look at the history of the human race, the human race has been around for however many hundreds and hundreds of thousands of years, that they've been so concentrated in this area that it's been Asians breeding with Asians.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Almost exclusively.
But for a long time.
bobby lee
That's the reason why I've only dated one Asian girl in my whole life.
joe rogan
You said guy and slipped up.
bobby lee
I said girl, Patty.
joe rogan
I heard you said guy first.
bobby lee
Girl.
She was a Power Ranger.
In the space one.
When they went to space.
She was hot, right?
She was beautiful.
So when I was in the bed with her, you know how it's dark and your eyes get adjusted to the light a little bit, the darkness?
joe rogan
You saw yourself?
bobby lee
No, I didn't see yourself.
I saw the guy from Heroes.
I saw the lady from Grey's Anatomy.
I saw my uncle Han.
I saw Kim Jong-il.
I saw everybody.
Kim Jong-il.
And after that, I said, I can't do it anymore.
joe rogan
Wow.
bobby lee
So the girls that I date are always either six foot two blonde Scandinavian looking ones.
unidentified
Wow.
bobby lee
Or like, you know, skinny tall Mexicans that are, you know what I mean?
But it cannot be Asians.
joe rogan
Wow.
That's crazy.
I knew a girl who was Chinese and she had a thing with her dad and just Asian guys made her throw up.
Like, she couldn't even imagine an Asian guy fucking her.
She's so sad.
Like, you poor kid.
bobby lee
Yeah, I'm the same way.
joe rogan
If you're so, just one group, just fucking whoever was the representative of that one group fucked up so hard.
bobby lee
Yeah, but that's, you know, the Asian parents are really the worst.
joe rogan
Really?
bobby lee
They are the worst because they come to this country and they just assume that they're going to have their children here and that they're going to be doctors and lawyers.
I mean, that's flat out.
There's like three options, right?
So if you come home with C's, you're going to get a beat.
I got beat so hard, bro.
joe rogan
Really?
bobby lee
Yeah, just beat because I got a C on my report card.
joe rogan
Now, how do your parents feel now that you're real successful as a comedian?
Do they accept that?
bobby lee
No, but when they first started doing stand-up, they didn't talk to me for years, bro.
joe rogan
Wow!
bobby lee
Yeah, I mean, I would say for birthdays, I'd go, happy birthday.
Thanks, Dad.
unidentified
Okay, bye.
joe rogan
That's it?
bobby lee
Yeah.
unidentified
Wow.
bobby lee
But I understand culturally what that's about, right?
And then when they saw me on The Tonight Show, Leno, like 12 years ago, I did it, right?
That was the first moment where they went, Oh, we fuck up.
We totally fuck up.
So my dad called me emotionally, and I'd never seen the guy cry before.
And he started crying on the phone and goes, I should have supported you, but I didn't because I never thought you could make it.
You know what I mean?
And I made a mistake.
joe rogan
That's heavy, man.
bobby lee
Yeah, and it was like the bond.
You know what I mean?
That they discovered that they made a mistake.
The whole time, like me getting bad grades in school, me getting kicked out of school, you know what I mean?
And all the behavioral problems.
joe rogan
You need that to be a comedian.
bobby lee
Yeah, I know.
joe rogan
I don't know a single comedian that got straight A's and fucking studied all the time and had a lot of options.
unidentified
Maybe Dane.
bobby lee
Dane.
Dane did good in school, I think.
joe rogan
Dane?
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, that's his fucking problem.
bobby lee
Yeah.
unidentified
I mean, that's the root of it right there.
bobby lee
And that's why my last point is the reason why that guy Chiu Sung-wee shot up Virginia Tech.
joe rogan
Because his parents were just super suppressive.
bobby lee
His parents, okay, always saw the kid talking to imaginary people.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bobby lee
In the park, you know, in like a park.
joe rogan
Right.
bobby lee
Right?
Now, a normal parent would go, oh, that is a mistake.
You know what I mean?
That's something wrong.
unidentified
Right.
bobby lee
But since the kid was getting good grades in school, they just go, you know what?
He's getting good grades.
unidentified
Ah.
Wow.
bobby lee
Right?
They never address the problem that he's fucking crazy.
joe rogan
Right.
bobby lee
Right?
Like, my parents, you know, I got bad grades, but I was always a good guy.
Like, if I saw a homeless guy, you know what I mean?
I would give them a dime or whatever I had in my pocket, you know what I mean?
And I was never an evil person, you know what I mean?
I had a good heart, right?
But they didn't acknowledge that part of me, you know what I mean?
joe rogan
Of course.
bobby lee
They only acknowledged that, is he getting good grades?
What college is he going to go do, right?
So as soon as the guy shot up the school, the Korean community harbored, okay, this kid.
The appearance of the kid.
So that's why you can't find an interview online with the parents, like what the fuck happened, right?
The Koreans harbored the parents, so the media couldn't get to them, then they shipped them to Korea.
joe rogan
They shipped the parents to Korea?
bobby lee
Yeah, the Koreans don't live here anymore.
unidentified
Wow.
bobby lee
They live in Korea, hiding, you know what I mean, in Pusong or something, in some village.
joe rogan
It's kind of a fascinating thing that when someone does something fucked up, you never blame who made them.
If my dog goes out and bites people, all of a sudden, you asshole, what did you do with your dog?
Why is your dog so mean?
How come your dog wasn't contained in your yard?
But if your kid goes out and fucking shoots people and shoots up a school, nobody pulls you aside and goes, hey, what the fuck was going on when this one was being made?
bobby lee
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, you saw Jeffrey Dahmer's parents still defend themselves.
You can't defend that shit.
joe rogan
You can, but you can't rather, but who's to say that someone can't just be broken?
Who's to say that you can't just have normal people and this kid's just got a fucking wild screw loose, period.
And there's nothing you can do about it.
bobby lee
But can I say something, Joe?
And I disagree with you on this point, okay?
Because, you know, I met your daughters, right?
Just these well-adjusted, beautiful kids, right?
I guarantee you they're not going to eat somebody, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
bobby lee
They will not eat somebody.
joe rogan
That's a poor example because that's just a few that worked out well.
We're not talking about the average person.
The thing about Dahmer is a perfect example because apparently he was never abused.
bobby lee
But his parents weren't together.
joe rogan
They weren't together, but that doesn't mean anything.
bobby lee
And the father, when he saw Dahmer with a dead dog, I brought home a dead animal, right?
unidentified
Right.
bobby lee
To my dad.
joe rogan
Right.
bobby lee
I go, look daddy, I found a cat.
Right?
joe rogan
Right.
bobby lee
He beat the shit out of me until I could no longer even move.
joe rogan
Really?
bobby lee
And I never brought home dead cats anymore.
brian redban
Did he make you eat it?
joe rogan
Right.
Okay, but this is...
This is...
This is a guy that was killing a bunch of things when he was really young, right?
brian redban
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
He's one of the few cases, from what I've read online, maybe you know more about the case than I do, but from what I've read more online, there's no evidence that he was ever molested, never had any stories about it, and his parents were seemingly normal.
bobby lee
Maybe you're right.
Maybe you're right.
I don't know.
But I think a lot of it has to do with upbringing.
joe rogan
Nurture, yes.
A lot of it does, but maybe not all of it.
I mean, look, if someone can be completely psychotic like that Virginia Tech Struder or like many other serial killers, I mean, who knows?
There might be a variety of things that can go wrong.
It might not just be nurture.
It might also be nature.
That might be possible.
bobby lee
But there also, I mean, you have to admit, though, that there is a mental deficiency, right?
joe rogan
Sure.
bobby lee
Something going on.
Yeah.
And there are medications out there, right?
joe rogan
Are there medications that can give you a soul?
bobby lee
That's true.
joe rogan
You know what I'm saying?
Because I think there's some people that are sociopaths, and they literally, they have no feeling for other people.
All they think about themselves, we know a bunch of them.
We know a few comics that are sociopaths.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
You know, Mencia is a clear sociopath.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
No question.
Yeah.
You know, there's a disconnect between, you know, these people and reality.
For whatever reason, and almost all of them, it's some sort of sexual abuse when they're young.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Almost all of them.
bobby lee
Well, you know, Mencia, I guess it came out in a different way, that was what you're saying.
You know what I mean?
Instead of, like, slaughtering a village.
joe rogan
Well, it can come out in a bunch of different ways.
It can come out in drug addiction.
It can come out in, you know, prostitution, and girls who do porn, you know?
bobby lee
But you know my view on Mencia, you know?
That, you know, I see a side to him that no one, like you guys, don't see.
joe rogan
Play the music.
bobby lee
No, no, no.
I don't know what music.
No, no, no, no, no.
joe rogan
Give me some love music.
Look, I know, you've been with him for a long time.
bobby lee
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know what I mean?
So I don't see the sociopath.
joe rogan
Well, you're like the neighbor that, you know, when, well, what was Dahmer like?
Well, he was a nice guy.
He always said hi.
bobby lee
Yeah, maybe I am the neighbor.
joe rogan
He was always kind to me.
bobby lee
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Maybe I'm the neighbor.
joe rogan
You're the neighbor, right.
But the neighbor that doesn't get it.
Look, no one who's evil is evil to everybody.
I mean, fucking, maybe Ed Gein had a nice cat, you know, that he treated well.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
bobby lee
I love that guy, Ed Gein.
unidentified
Creepy.
joe rogan
Do you?
bobby lee
Well, just in the sense that, like, you know what I mean, inspiring these huge movies like, you know, Silence of the Lambs and...
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a fucking scary thing because he was doing it back when there was no other examples of it.
That was just what he's supposed to be doing.
It's not like this guy learned about it in movies and shit.
No, he was making clothes out of people.
bobby lee
Right, right, right.
I think making a lampshade is worse than making clothes.
joe rogan
They found lampshades from World War II that Nazis made out of Jews.
They found one recently.
It was preserved.
It's horrendous.
bobby lee
No one's going to buy that.
How could you put that out in your living room?
joe rogan
Sick of some people, man.
brian redban
Did they make clothing too?
Or just lampshades?
Did they have Jew bras?
joe rogan
I think they just fucking slaughtered people and did whatever they wanted to them.
Don't ever say two bras.
bobby lee
Don't ever say two bras in front of me again.
brian redban
Do you have in your house like a room devoted to Kim Jong-il?
Like newspaper articles all over a wall and circles and private investigator photos?
Do you know him?
Do you meet him?
bobby lee
Why would I know him?
brian redban
Because it seems like he would be your enemy right now if I was you.
unidentified
Why?
brian redban
Because it seems like he's in everything right now.
Do you feel some kind of competition?
bobby lee
I don't know anything about the dude.
joe rogan
Brian has brain damage.
When he was a young man, he was asleep and he lived in an apartment.
And for years, carbon dioxide was blown on his head.
I'm not kidding.
Brain damage.
bobby lee
Can I just say something to you?
When I was born, I saw all the shows that you saw.
I lived in America.
I listened to the Beatles.
I smoked high with my friends on a hammock.
joe rogan
When did your parents come here?
bobby lee
In the late 60s, right?
And what's crazy about my parents is they didn't even meet in Korea.
They met here.
joe rogan
Wow.
bobby lee
They met in a disco.
joe rogan
And they're both super Korean.
bobby lee
They're super Korean, but yeah.
joe rogan
Very traditionalists.
bobby lee
I mean, not now.
joe rogan
So now you grew up in San Diego, right?
Now, that's where I met Bobby.
When I met Bobby, Bobby was...
Bobby was a doorman.
You were a doorman?
bobby lee
I was a doorman.
It was like 97, 96, maybe?
joe rogan
Maybe, yeah.
Maybe earlier.
Maybe earlier, yeah.
I had just moved to LA. I'd only been here for a little while, and I was doing a weekend at the La Jolla Comedy Store, and it was me and Jimmy Schubert and Bobby.
bobby lee
I think Diaz was with us.
joe rogan
I don't think so.
I think Diaz was still in Seattle at the time.
And we went to a strip club in San Diego and there was these Mexican gangbangers that were like the real deal, like tattooed tears in their face.
And this one dude, he had these crazy murderer eyes.
And Jimmy Schubert was like, I don't know what happened.
Jimmy was trying to get a dance from one of their girlfriends or something or said something to one of their girlfriends.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And so the guy got up and he got in Jimmy Schubert's face and Jimmy Schubert was trying to apologize.
And Bobby Lee just got all crazy.
Like, fuck these fucking pussies.
Bobby Lee, like, these guys ain't shit.
These guys are pussies.
And he was saying it, like, loud.
And the guys were looking at us.
And I just got up and I said, I'm leaving right now.
Whoever's coming with me is coming with me.
I'm leaving right now.
Like, I knew.
We were, like, moments away from someone getting shot.
unidentified
Really?
bobby lee
I don't have street smarts.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
You talk about negative street smarts.
These dudes had tattoos on their face.
There's certain dudes where you look at them and you go, these guys are posers.
These guys were murderers.
There's no question about it.
We were 15 minutes away from Tijuana.
And this is the old days when it wasn't even hard to go back and forth.
Back in the 90s, bro, you needed a driver's license.
That's all you needed.
You didn't have to have a passport to go to Mexico or come back and forth.
Dudes were coming back and forth all the time.
bobby lee
Oh, and cab drivers didn't even...
They could just drive back and forth, cab drivers.
joe rogan
It's so easy.
bobby lee
It is easy.
joe rogan
So there was a lot of crime and dangerous crime.
It was like you would run into pockets of extreme danger.
And that's when we were involved in a pocket of extreme danger.
And there's Bob being, fuck these guys!
These guys ain't shit!
Fuck you guys, these are pussies!
These guys are pussies!
He's like saying it loud.
And I don't know if you were drunk at the time.
bobby lee
You might have been drinking.
No, no, no.
joe rogan
Were you sober?
bobby lee
Yeah.
I was 23. I just left the hometown Poway was where I grew up.
joe rogan
Poway?
bobby lee
Yeah, it's called Poway.
joe rogan
It's outside of San Diego?
bobby lee
Yeah, it's like 25 minutes east of downtown San Diego.
And I didn't know much.
I just started doing stand-up.
I wanted to impress you because you're a headliner and I'd never met headliners.
He's a headliner, so I wanted to act tough.
And I came across looking like a fucking asshole.
joe rogan
Well, it's not how you came across.
It was the threat that you had put us into.
You'd put us in a position where...
bobby lee
Yeah, I apologized over the last 15 years.
joe rogan
Oh, it's no big deal, buddy.
It's just a funny story, man.
I still love you.
It's just a funny story, but I just remember, like, this little motherfucker's gonna get me killed.
bobby lee
Yeah, and I remember that.
I remember it vividly.
joe rogan
Yeah, he was so incredulous.
Even now, we're waiting to get in the car.
Ah, you guys are overreacting.
bobby lee
I'm like, get in the fucking car!
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
I've seen murderers before.
I've met them.
There's a certain tweak in a person's eye when they've already killed somebody.
Sounds like nonsense.
bobby lee
But, Joe, I was just in South Africa.
I did some shows out there.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bobby lee
Three o'clock in the afternoon, I walked out of my hotel room, and all of a sudden, I'm on the floor.
unidentified
What?
bobby lee
Yeah.
I go, why am I on the dirt, right?
And these two black guys from South Africa were robbing me.
joe rogan
Whoa.
bobby lee
And I don't have any smarts.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
So would they hit you with something?
Or they'd throw you out of the ground?
bobby lee
No, I walked out and I saw these two guys kind of following me.
joe rogan
Right.
bobby lee
Like, oh, I don't have that instinct.
joe rogan
Right.
bobby lee
You know what I mean?
And the next thing I know, they throw me onto the ground, these two huge black dudes.
Right.
And then my face is in the dirt and they take my Blackberry and I had some cash in the other pocket, right?
joe rogan
Right.
bobby lee
They ran off and then Ian Bagg, you know Ian Bagg?
unidentified
Uh huh.
bobby lee
Yeah, Ian Bagg and I looked for two hours for them.
What are we going to do?
I know, nothing.
joe rogan
Why would you look for it?
bobby lee
Because I was going to buy my Blackberry off of them.
joe rogan
Oh, that's good.
unidentified
Like they're going to accept money and give you something that's worth money for your money.
bobby lee
Fuck you.
joe rogan
That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
bobby lee
I'm just telling you this happened and the thing is I just don't have any street smarts.
joe rogan
Wow.
bobby lee
Yeah, I just don't have that instinct.
I grew up in the suburbs.
joe rogan
Wow, that's not just not having street smarts.
That's like, you haven't thought this out.
And Ian Bagg was down with this plan?
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
What's his problem?
bobby lee
He's from Canada.
brian redban
I think me and Bobby grew up together in the same apartment.
bobby lee
He's Canadian.
joe rogan
Wow, that's pretty crazy.
bobby lee
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So that's the same kind of thing.
joe rogan
Africa's very tricky, isn't it?
bobby lee
It's crazy.
joe rogan
How long were you there for?
bobby lee
A month and a half.
joe rogan
Whoa!
What were you doing there for a month and a half?
bobby lee
I did a bunch of shows in Johannesburg, Durban, and Cape Town.
brian redban
That's crazy.
bobby lee
It was crazy, bro.
I did it with great comics.
So Mencia...
Not Mencia.
Pablo Francisco.
joe rogan
You keep getting them confused.
bobby lee
I know.
Pablo Francisco.
joe rogan
You know all those...
bobby lee
Yeah, yeah.
Gabriel Glazer.
No.
It was Pablo, me...
Ian, Orny Adams.
joe rogan
Wow.
Okay, I saw a photo with you and Orny online somewhere.
bobby lee
That was it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
So what was the experience like?
First of all, what are the audiences like?
They're Africans?
bobby lee
No, they're just white and blacks.
It's amazing.
The best audiences I've ever played in front of.
joe rogan
Really?
bobby lee
You crush.
You absolutely crush, bro.
unidentified
Really?
bobby lee
Because comedy is only like 10 years old there.
joe rogan
Whoa.
bobby lee
And you turn on the TV, you see Two and a Half Men, all these shows that they get from America, right?
joe rogan
But they can't do it themselves.
bobby lee
No, they have a couple.
There's a guy named Trevor Noah, who's a huge star out there.
joe rogan
Really?
bobby lee
Yeah.
He's a black guy.
He's huge.
And there's another guy named Louiso, right?
So it's new.
If you're a stand-up in South Africa, you get ad campaigns.
Like, just Verizon and Trevor Noah.
You know what I mean?
Just huge posters.
It's a market.
Dude, Dunham is now playing out there.
joe rogan
Who?
bobby lee
Jeff Dunham.
Like, everyone's going out there now.
joe rogan
Really?
bobby lee
Yeah.
unidentified
Great.
bobby lee
Rogan, Joe, you would kill!
joe rogan
There's plenty of places I don't get to go to in America.
I gotta get back to Houston.
I haven't been to Chicago in a year and a half.
I'm not going to fucking Africa.
bobby lee
Yeah, but what I'm saying is that if they don't know me, you know what I mean, and they're still coming out...
joe rogan
Right.
Well, they probably got Mad TV, didn't they?
bobby lee
No, they don't.
joe rogan
No?
bobby lee
No.
They don't know who the fuck I am.
I open, bro.
joe rogan
Really?
bobby lee
Yeah.
I mean, I had Orny and all these guys go after me.
joe rogan
Well, they know who Orny is?
bobby lee
No, but the thing is, is that the producers of the show were like, because Asians are third-class citizens there.
joe rogan
Whoa.
bobby lee
We're like the blacks of South Africa, right?
joe rogan
Whoa.
bobby lee
So it's like, you know, we were like riding in the back of the bus up until 10 years ago.
joe rogan
Really?
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
They had a back of a bus for Asians?
brian redban
I like back of the bus.
bobby lee
Yeah, they just, they were not, we weren't able to vote.
joe rogan
Really?
bobby lee
Like 15 years ago.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So they view me as like, you know what I mean?
Like scum of them, which is crazy.
It is absolutely unfathomable.
You know what I mean?
So I went up first and I could feel every show, dude.
People going, oh man.
You know what I mean?
And I just knew, you know, bang, bang.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
Right.
So you could feel that they were judging you?
bobby lee
Not judging me, but there was a feeling of like, what the fuck is this shit, right?
joe rogan
Really?
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
How is that not judging you?
bobby lee
Maybe.
But the thing is, I know as soon as I opened my mouth and I just said the first couple jokes, I had them on my side.
You know what I mean?
unidentified
Wow.
bobby lee
You just crush.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Wow.
bobby lee
You know what I mean?
Because A, they've never really seen Asians that have an American accent that doesn't have an accent.
joe rogan
Right.
bobby lee
Right?
So that in itself is shocking to them.
And B, me just talking like an American, which I am, and then me C, being funny, you know what I mean, shocked them too, you know what I mean?
joe rogan
Wow.
unidentified
That's cool.
bobby lee
So it's crazy, yeah.
joe rogan
So you were there for a month and a half?
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
How many shows did you do?
bobby lee
Oh, I got a lot, bro.
I did like...
I don't know, 35?
joe rogan
Holy shit!
bobby lee
30 to 35?
joe rogan
Who booked that?
bobby lee
There's a festival out there every year.
You should do it, dude.
joe rogan
No, I'm not going to go in there for 35 days.
bobby lee
Oh, you can't do it?
joe rogan
I don't want to.
I don't like going for any place.
I don't even like going places for four days.
I like three days and done.
In and out.
bobby lee
But for me, it was just like, you know, because I've just never been there.
And also, you know, there was just a slow time, man.
joe rogan
Wow, 35 fucking days in Africa.
Did they pay you in gold coins and shrunken heads?
brian redban
Yeah, was the AIDS good?
bobby lee
No, the food...
joe rogan
Did you worry about malaria?
bobby lee
No, the money was great.
joe rogan
George Clooney got malaria.
bobby lee
Yeah, dude, it's like being...
joe rogan
He did.
bobby lee
He did, really?
unidentified
Yeah, he did.
bobby lee
Oh, he did?
Dude, it's like being anywhere else, kind of.
Like, if you're in Cape Town, it's like, oh, there's a coffee shop and a clothing store.
joe rogan
Starbucks are there?
bobby lee
No, there's another thing called.
joe rogan
The only difference is they rob you everywhere.
bobby lee
During the day.
They have no...
People get robbed all the time.
joe rogan
Wow.
bobby lee
One of the producers of the show said, yeah, I was on the freeway during the day, and some black guy just walked up to her door and said, I want the car.
She just got out and gave him the car.
joe rogan
Whoa.
Yeah, pass on Africa, please.
brian redban
Is there a lot of flies?
bobby lee
No, dude!
joe rogan
Why would you tell me to go to a place where you get robbed all the time?
What's so great about it?
bobby lee
Because I'm just saying, though, because I just think that you're a great comedian in stand-up, you know what I mean?
And I just think that there's no one like you that's ever played there and that you could clean up.
joe rogan
I don't want to.
brian redban
I'm just telling you.
We could hang out with the Antwerd, man.
We could just, you know, the whole weekend.
joe rogan
Antwerd's over here.
They're hanging out with Jimmy Kimmel.
brian redban
Oh, really?
joe rogan
Love them, too.
bobby lee
I love them.
joe rogan
Yeah, I called his cell phone.
That's his voicemail.
Yeah, we went gaga on them when they first came out on the podcast.
bobby lee
But that's how I know about them, because of South Africa.
joe rogan
So you found out about them way before everybody else.
bobby lee
Yeah, and also those guys, the way they look, that's what a lot of the white people look like.
joe rogan
How popular is Dee Antwerd in South Africa?
Was it huge?
bobby lee
No, but you go to a hip-hop store.
They have hip-hop stores, you know what I mean?
There's a poster or whatever, you know what I mean?
And they have radio stations that play just regular music.
It's a normal place, you know?
brian redban
It's just all intense.
bobby lee
It's just new, you know what I mean?
Civilization is new.
unidentified
Right.
bobby lee
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
It is new.
That's what's scary about it, man.
And it borders so much wild shit.
bobby lee
But that's how Russell Peters...
He did his first theater show in South Africa.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bobby lee
And that's how he got the momentum.
joe rogan
Well, sort of.
But Russell is just...
First of all, he has a huge following in the Asian community.
bobby lee
Yeah, it's huge.
joe rogan
Indians, Asians.
bobby lee
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
They're just so happy that there's another comic like...
Or a comic like him out there.
They just come out in massive droves to support him.
The community is so strong.
But Russell sells out like that everywhere.
It's not just India.
He does two nights in a row.
bobby lee
But this is before he had that.
joe rogan
Really?
bobby lee
Yeah, yeah.
His first theater show was in South Africa.
joe rogan
How far is that flight?
Isn't that like 16 hours?
bobby lee
No, it's a 24-hour deal.
Because you do 12 to Amsterdam and then you do another 12 to South Africa.
joe rogan
God damn!
bobby lee
I know, it's the worst.
unidentified
Really?
bobby lee
Yeah, it's the worst.
joe rogan
24 hours in the air?
bobby lee
You feel like...
It feels like two weeks in the air.
joe rogan
Oh my God.
bobby lee
And you start sweating.
You start sweating after a while, right?
joe rogan
It must wreck your body, too.
bobby lee
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
What is 24-hour jet lag like?
bobby lee
It tears you up.
It tears you up.
And you have to do...
Business class, at least.
joe rogan
Tell me this.
What the fuck is going on on planes that make you feel so fucking bad when you land?
Because I feel like I drink.
I feel like when I'm on a plane, I feel like it's the same feeling I get when I do a show and have three shots.
That's what it feels like.
brian redban
It's the air quality.
You're pretty much hotboxing with 500 people.
bobby lee
You're breathing other people's insides.
joe rogan
Is that what it is?
bobby lee
Yeah, and you don't know what...
People are just filthy animals.
brian redban
When you sleep on a plane, you always sleep with your mouth open.
Because you sit back like this...
And no matter who you look at, everyone has their mouth open.
So you're just sitting there going...
And sucking that in through your mouth.
joe rogan
What is the way around that?
There's no way around that.
bobby lee
Oh, I went to a strip club in South Africa.
It was the worst place I've ever been to in my life.
joe rogan
Really?
bobby lee
I did a lap dance from a girl, I kid you not, that looked like Dog the Bonnie Hunter.
brian redban
Oh, really?
I could get into that.
bobby lee
She had facial hair.
You know what I mean?
unidentified
Oh, my God.
bobby lee
Yeah, her breast was like, you know what I mean, shriveled up.
unidentified
Oh, gross.
brian redban
It was awful.
joe rogan
And she was touching you?
bobby lee
Yeah, she's touching me, but I'm laughing the whole time, you know what I mean?
joe rogan
So you did it on purpose.
bobby lee
Yeah, I just did it for fun, you know what I mean?
Yeah, but it's awful.
joe rogan
Did you worry about getting robbed there?
bobby lee
No, no, no.
joe rogan
No?
You just don't worry.
bobby lee
Dude, I got robbed the second of the last day I was there, bro.
Wow.
joe rogan
So when the guy stole your BlackBerry, did you try to get another one?
bobby lee
You know why?
Because I know I'm leaving this God-forbidden place.
You know what I mean?
I go back to civilization.
joe rogan
So you hate it, man.
You're trying to get me to go there.
bobby lee
What's wrong with you?
brian redban
It's a trap.
bobby lee
Joe, in terms of what you would do there business-wise...
joe rogan
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
That's all.
To me, what's the most important thing is having fun.
And 24 hours in the plane is not fun.
You know, like I got a gig coming up in Australia.
I'm doing some place called Rudy Hill.
It's outside of Sydney.
It's like the suburbs.
It's like all I could get because it was like a late last minute thing.
And that's because I'm doing the UFC out there.
I like doing those gigs.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
I'm doing the UFC. And so the night before, I'll do a gig somewhere in Australia.
And I've done them in England.
And I've done them in Ireland.
I've done them all over the place.
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
But I'm not traveling somewhere for 24 fucking hours to do an audience.
bobby lee
Just to do a show.
joe rogan
Yeah, I can do that in Burbank, man.
bobby lee
You know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
I can get in my car and do that.
That's just too crazy.
It's too much of a commitment.
bobby lee
Yeah, but that's the only...
When you're at a point in your life where right now the only revenue you're getting is through live shows, you just kind of have to go, fuck it.
joe rogan
Yeah, but why fuck it when you just build up your audience in America, man?
That's how I feel.
I mean, I don't...
There's nothing wrong with doing it.
I mean, there's nothing wrong with traveling.
But for me, first of all, part of it is kids.
I have kids.
I can't just go somewhere for a month.
That would fucking drive me crazy.
bobby lee
Yeah, but I wanted to see great white sharks and shit like that, you know, too.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's kind of interesting.
I mean, that was interesting about Australia, too, seeing crocodiles and shit and kangaroos.
And find out that fucking kangaroos kill more people than anything.
Kangaroos fuck people up in Australia.
bobby lee
They do?
joe rogan
Yeah, there's big, giant kangaroos.
They're so cute, though.
There's apparently two different types of kangaroos.
I forget what color the big ones are.
The big ones will fuck you up.
They're like 300 pounds and shit and they gut people.
unidentified
They kick you with their claws.
bobby lee
And there's a toad out there that's more rampant.
joe rogan
Everything's trying to kill you in Australia.
bobby lee
That they shipped there.
From a different place, right?
Because they had locusts or something that they wanted to get rid of.
So they shipped these indigenous frogs from South Africa.
But the locusts were so high up on these leaves that the frogs didn't eat the locusts or whatever.
So they just multiplied.
And they're poisonous.
So they just went rampant.
Oh, shit.
joe rogan
People are so goddamn smart trying to fix ecosystems.
bobby lee
Yeah, yeah.
It fucked that place up.
joe rogan
How about just spray the bugs?
You spray, you cunts.
brian redban
Bobby, what was Eminem like?
bobby lee
What kind of, what?
brian redban
You met Eminem, right?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
brian redban
What was he like?
bobby lee
He's a nice guy.
joe rogan
Where'd you meet Eminem?
bobby lee
I was in one of his music videos.
joe rogan
Oh, really?
bobby lee
Yeah, I got a call saying, come down now, because they need you, right?
So I came down, I did three sketches, I played Sulu, then I played an Eskimo, and yeah, yeah, and yeah, he's nice.
I hadn't met him before, and I got to meet Dr. Dre, which is great.
He has a huge black hand that just takes my little hand, and it surrounds my hand.
And it's so dry and it's perfect.
You know what I mean?
unidentified
Just soft.
You know what I mean?
bobby lee
It's like Dr. Trey's hand.
You know what I mean?
And he's so gentle.
Like a giant gentle guy who put his hand on your back.
brian redban
He's huge now.
joe rogan
He's huge.
Something happened.
He started lifting weights and got gigantic.
bobby lee
Yeah, but he's kind.
He's a kind guy.
You know what I mean?
Because I grew up with NWA. Yeah, me too.
I love that stuff.
Yeah.
So it's like...
joe rogan
I met Ice Cube once.
That was the fucking coolest thing ever when Ice Cube said, what's up, Joe?
I'm like...
unidentified
Get the fuck out of here.
bobby lee
Yeah, yeah, is that great?
joe rogan
Ice Cube knows my name.
bobby lee
It's great.
unidentified
It's great.
joe rogan
It's a trip.
bobby lee
It's awesome.
It's so crazy that people that...
One time I was in Miami.
I was in the front row.
In the front row was Gloria Estefan.
joe rogan
Whoa, get the fuck out of here.
bobby lee
I didn't know who she was.
joe rogan
Holy shit.
bobby lee
So somebody backstage before I went up there, Gloria Estefan's in the audience.
I go, who is that?
And they go, it's Gloria Estefani.
unidentified
She's huge.
bobby lee
I go, really?
unidentified
She's huge?
bobby lee
So I went up on stage, and this is what I said.
I'm an asshole.
joe rogan
Oh, no.
bobby lee
No, I get up on stage.
I go, ladies and gentlemen, Gloria Edibon.
joe rogan
No!
bobby lee
And then, you know how they shine the light on her?
You know what I mean?
unidentified
Yeah.
bobby lee
And she's blushing.
She's kind of waving to the audience.
And I'm still smiling because I don't know I fucked up.
unidentified
Oh, no.
bobby lee
Right?
joe rogan
Edibon.
bobby lee
And then afterwards, she just left.
So I was never able to meet her.
joe rogan
Wow.
bobby lee
And if you're listening, Gloria Estefan, I Googled you after that.
unidentified
You know what I mean?
bobby lee
And I know all your stuff.
And I really, sorry for the disrespect.
brian redban
Maybe she thought you were doing an Asian joke, though.
bobby lee
Why?
She's not Asian.
brian redban
No, no, no.
That you were mispronouncing it.
You were doing a character.
unidentified
No, no, no.
bobby lee
Because I don't do that.
Trust me, it came all fucked up.
Because even the audience went...
You could hear them go...
brian redban
That's hilarious.
bobby lee
I don't know who sports people are.
brian redban
Me either.
bobby lee
I did this one commercial with these two old men.
And I was telling one old man to go get me a cup of coffee.
Give me a cup of coffee.
You just got one.
He's like, all right.
You know what I mean?
And at the end of the shoot, I laughed.
And they're like, you know who those guys were?
I go, who?
Stan Mikita and Gordie Howe, who are huge hockey icons, right?
joe rogan
So you had Gordie Howe going, getting you coffee?
bobby lee
He did it in a...
It wasn't like...
I was joking, kind of.
Like, can you get me one of those, too?
You know what I mean?
It wasn't like...
Telling him what to do.
joe rogan
I was not a hockey fan when I was a kid, so I didn't know...
I knew Bobby Orr was like a name.
I knew it was a big deal.
So I was working at the Boston Athletic Club.
And Bobby Orr used to go there and work out.
And...
That's one of the first times I'd ever been around a professional athlete that had been fucked up from his sport.
I did not know how bad some dudes got jacked by their sports, but Bobby Orr had scars up and down both legs, where he had some insane amount of knee surgeries, like 16 fucking knee surgeries.
Something crazy.
It might even be more than that.
But his knees were so bad that he would play racquetball, and if the ball went to the left or to the right, he would just lean and fall to the ground.
He literally couldn't move.
It was the saddest shit ever, man.
bobby lee
Oh, that's so sad.
joe rogan
It was the saddest shit ever.
You know what a VersaClimber is?
It's like a pole that's at an angle.
It's got handles for your hands and for your feet.
And you go up and down, up and down with this thing.
And it simulates that you're climbing something.
It's called a VersaClimber.
You can't I used to have to put him on this thing.
I used to have to help him.
What I used to do is I have to get behind him and I would have to hold his waist and he would put one foot in one of the stirrups and then you'd have to kind of lift him a little so he could get his foot into the next one because his knees didn't bend.
His knees literally didn't bend.
They went from like fully extended to like one quarter.
bobby lee
It's like John McCain's arms.
joe rogan
It was way worse than that.
Well, John McCain seems like he can't move him past a certain point, like his shoulders.
He's got bad shoulders.
Needs to rehab that shit.
bobby lee
Whenever I see him, I feel bad because Asians did that to him.
joe rogan
Do they?
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
Is that what happened?
bobby lee
Yeah, yeah.
He was tortured for five years.
joe rogan
Really?
bobby lee
Yeah, they put him in straps, you know what I mean, and rope.
joe rogan
That's what fucked up his shoulders?
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
Really?
bobby lee
Well, what do you think happened?
brian redban
Mattresses and car bags.
unidentified
Maybe slid into third and...
joe rogan
The bag with his hands.
That's really what happened?
They fucked up his shoulders?
bobby lee
Yeah.
And they made me play John McCain.
joe rogan
What?
bobby lee
I met you.
Yeah, you can look it up.
brian redban
How the fuck did you play John McCain?
bobby lee
Look it up.
Bobby Lee John McCain.
joe rogan
That sounds silly.
bobby lee
Right.
I got the call that I want you to play John McCain.
I go, no.
They go, why?
Because people like me tortured him.
I'm not playing him, too.
joe rogan
Vietnamese.
It's pretty distant from Koreans, right?
bobby lee
Well, you know what I'm saying, though.
joe rogan
Right.
If someone said you're Vietnamese, though, you'd be upset.
unidentified
No, I wouldn't be.
joe rogan
You don't look Vietnamese at all.
bobby lee
No, I love him.
When he put the video...
joe rogan
Oh, that video.
Most people have no idea what we're talking about here.
bobby lee
Well, I don't know if you read it online.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, most people are not going to read the story about you online.
Bobby Lee once was playing around and said something about Vietnamese.
Wow, that's you as John McCain.
You look like Donald Trump fuck Frank Caliendo.
That's what it looks like.
Doesn't it?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Look how Bobby Lee is John McCain and it does not look like John McCain.
bobby lee
But the reason why I said that was because of that fan.
joe rogan
You don't like that fan?
bobby lee
No.
I wanted to know where my resentment...
Why I would say something like that in the fucking first place.
joe rogan
About first place people?
bobby lee
Yeah.
And it was because at that time, he was way bigger than me.
You know what I mean?
And I knew in my heart that I could just destroy him.
You know what I mean?
As a stand-up.
And everyone was saying like...
joe rogan
That bothered you then, right?
bobby lee
Well, it bothered me then because they were saying he's the funniest Asian guy ever, right?
And I'm like, I know Coy.
I know Margaret Cho.
You know what I mean?
I know a lot of Asian comics that are very funny.
Right.
joe rogan
Well, you know, what he had was a killer five minutes, you know?
And I saw Dat Fan.
I was one of the judges for Last Comic Standing.
And the fucking kid destroyed, man.
I mean, he came out and destroyed.
It wasn't the best material in the world, but it was like, you know, who cares?
It's like pop comedy.
That's what he was doing.
But he destroyed.
And then, for whatever reason, it was really funny, but for whatever reason, it just never caught on after that.
That was it.
bobby lee
But the thing is that I know him on the club level.
Right?
And I know exactly what he can do.
Like in terms of like, if you were to put that, me, Koi, like any of the other Asian guys up there, you know what I mean?
That you would be able to see.
joe rogan
Don't you think that that's corrosive thinking?
Don't you think that that kind of thinking is detrimental as a person to you?
Like when you're worried about what other people can do in comparing yourself to me?
bobby lee
No, no, no, no.
No?
I don't.
Because I know what you're saying, okay?
It's like Ken Jeong, his success.
I'm very happy for him because I went on tour with Ken.
We did an Asian tour.
He's been on 15, 16 sketches at MADtv.
I know his level and he's a hard worker, nice guy and he's a talent.
I feel the same way about Joe Coy or Steve Byrne or any of these guys.
I have no competitiveness with anybody but I just know at certain people's Talent level, and I just felt that he didn't deserve it.
joe rogan
Yeah, but what do you care?
This is my point.
bobby lee
Why worry about other people's entertainment?
No, but Joe, I'm better about it now.
Of course you are now.
joe rogan
I know, but you're still sort of defending it, right?
bobby lee
No, I'm not really determined.
joe rogan
That's what I'm saying.
What I asked is, do you think that that behavior is corrosive?
By saying you're better than that now, you're saying yes, it is negative, right?
bobby lee
It's very negative, and it was a bad time, really bad time for me.
joe rogan
It's tricky with comedians.
I mean, we were talking about someone else earlier that gets jealous about people.
It's very tricky with comics.
For some reason, when comics see one person's success, they somehow or another think it as taking away something from them.
What is that?
bobby lee
And for me, it's like I... I have accepted, you know what I mean?
I accept what I have in front of me.
I love my life, you know what I mean?
But at the time, you know what I mean?
It was in turmoil.
Like, I wasn't really, you know what I mean?
I didn't know what I was doing, you know what I mean?
joe rogan
Right.
bobby lee
And I was going, you know, I had just gotten sober again, you know what I mean?
So it was a rough time, you know what I mean?
unidentified
Right.
bobby lee
Just, you know, you're just sensitive, you know what I mean?
unidentified
Of course.
bobby lee
And so, yeah, I mean, in retrospect, it was really ugly.
joe rogan
Yeah.
That's one of those things you have to learn from, though.
Yeah.
But you see it so much in the open mic night days.
You remember when you were an open mic night guy and you were just starting out and then there would be guys that you worked with that started getting work?
bobby lee
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Dude, everyone would hate.
I would hate.
I'd totally hate on people that would start.
I'd be like, this guy's going to be good.
Fuck him.
But he's obviously good enough to get a job.
Him getting that job is not taking anything away from you.
bobby lee
Yeah, but the thing that you learn over time, though, is that...
You realize there's so much work out there, right?
That I feel like there's enough for everybody.
But at the time, when you're not getting jobs, you know what I mean?
And you know that you're funny.
It's just a difficult transition, you know what I mean?
That's all I'm sorry.
brian redban
Is it because Dat Fam's Vietnamese?
Does that have anything to do with it?
bobby lee
No.
brian redban
No?
bobby lee
No, no, no.
Because I know Dat from San Diego.
First of all, he's a liar.
Remember, like, during the show, you said he'd been doing it for two years.
I started with a guy.
You know what I mean?
In San Diego.
I mean, I have photos with him.
You know what I mean?
From back in the 90s.
joe rogan
So he had been doing it a long time.
bobby lee
Way long.
You know what I mean?
Living underneath a desk.
All these things that he said he was claiming he was doing.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
It's not true.
bobby lee
To me, it was not true.
And also, Margaret Cho wrote him a letter because he had stolen a joke from her.
joe rogan
What joke was that?
bobby lee
I don't know what joke.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
Asian jokes is very tricky.
It's like, a buddy of mine, my friend John Tobin from New York used to say this, that when you work with a bunch of black guys, he goes, it's always if there's three comics and two guys are white and one guy's black, the black guy's always like, yeah, man, I was supposed to be closing.
I heard that I was supposed to be closing.
He goes, and last, there's two black guys and the black guy, and then they're like, yeah, I'm supposed to open.
I gotta get out of here.
Why?
Because they want to be able to use all the black jokes.
brian redban
I know.
That's hilarious.
bobby lee
That is so funny.
It's so true.
It is so true.
joe rogan
Because there's so much hack shit that guys would just rely on because it would work every time.
Now, you're white people looking around seeing if you could laugh at this.
bobby lee
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
brian redban
It's like Jewish material.
Every person that's a Jew has to talk about them being a Jew.
It's like they all do the same material.
bobby lee
It's like when I went on tour with the four Koreans, we did the Kings of Comedy with me, Steve Byrne, Ken, and Kevin Shea, and no one wanted to close.
We would fight backstage.
I'd have to close sometimes.
It was very difficult.
It's not that we went over the material.
It's just the fact that all Asian comics have at least 10 minutes of their act about being Asian.
The point of view might be different.
Or the angle.
joe rogan
But you, out of all those, probably have the most material, right?
Yeah.
A lot of your killer shit is Asian.
Do you still do that bit about the Vietnamese guy hiding in a can of coke?
unidentified
No.
I don't know.
bobby lee
That's why they won the war.
They can hide in anything.
They can hide in trees for three weeks.
unidentified
You know what I mean?
bobby lee
Just a banana.
brian redban
That was in that video you were talking about, right?
Just before that we put up the one that you got in trouble for?
bobby lee
Yeah, that video, yeah.
brian redban
Didn't you talk about it in that video?
bobby lee
No.
I don't blame you for the video, by the way.
It was just one of those...
You blame me?
Well, for a couple years, I couldn't even look at you.
brian redban
Why?
bobby lee
I'll be honest with you.
brian redban
I didn't say anything.
bobby lee
Can I just say this?
I didn't just get this because we haven't talked about it.
I just want to bring it up.
Can I bring it up?
joe rogan
Sure, anything.
bobby lee
Okay.
There was a time about, I don't know when, two or three years, that I felt that there was animosity between me and your camp.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
You never felt it for me.
bobby lee
Yes, I did.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
For me?
bobby lee
Yeah, I felt that, honestly, I felt that, can I be, I love you, is that I felt that there was a weirdness because of the whole, the video that had come out.
joe rogan
No.
bobby lee
And with Ari, you know what I mean, me and Ari not getting along.
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
Look, I called you when there was that video that you made, where Mencia made you make that video.
I called you about it.
And I told you, I go, dude, I'm not mad at you.
bobby lee
Which was the one biggest mistake, I thought, because if you read the feedback...
After that?
Oh, my God.
I get threats.
joe rogan
Well, you know, I understood your point of view totally.
I knew you from back in the day, and I knew your relationship with him, and I knew that you knew he was sick, and you were trying to help him.
I knew.
I knew the whole story.
It didn't bother me at all.
And for people who don't know, he just made this video saying that he never...
bobby lee
But can I tell you how that came about?
joe rogan
Okay, but let me tell these people.
He made a video saying that he never saw Carlos stealing any material.
And it was one of those videos that looked like one of those terrorist videos where there's a fucking gun pointed to your head and a knife under your neck.
bobby lee
Okay, so this is what happens.
I'm in Canada, right?
The video, right, comes on.
joe rogan
Right.
bobby lee
And then Mencia calls me.
And literally six months ago, I erased the message.
I kept it for that long.
unidentified
Ah!
bobby lee
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
Damn it!
bobby lee
I know.
It was so...
He was so angry.
I can't even...
joe rogan
That would be so great to play on the podcast.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
bobby lee
I erased it.
unidentified
Damn it!
bobby lee
So then what happens is, like, I come back from Canada and I... Now it's the new season of MAD, right?
And lo and behold, Mencius...
Mind of Mencius got picked up, right?
And it's literally attached to MAD TV. Like the studios are, right?
So I'm like, and I hadn't seen Carlos since the video went out, right?
So for a couple of days, I'm like, I know how to get around.
I gotta get around.
The stairs, right?
And I'll sneak around the back here.
joe rogan
You're wearing disguises.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
bobby lee
This is how I want to get that, right?
Well, next thing you know, he grabs one of his cousins, comes to Matt TV, who's a friend of mine, brings me over, right?
And then I had like six Mexicans just sit me down.
joe rogan
Are you sure they were really Mexicans?
bobby lee
I don't know.
brian redban
They're Japanese.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
bobby lee
And, you know, Carlos is there, Ned, and he just goes...
joe rogan
Was he sitting on a throne?
bobby lee
No, no, no.
It was outside, and he just goes, you gotta do this for me.
So I did it.
You know what I mean?
And then that happened.
brian redban
The weirdest part about the video, though, what sucked is that you made this video that didn't even seem like you even knew the video you were talking about.
I can't remember the actual words in it.
It sounded like you were talking about a video that you hadn't seen, which was even weirder.
bobby lee
I got caught between, you know what I mean, two camps that I, you know what I mean, I've always had a relationship with, right?
I mean, Joe and I have known each other for so long.
joe rogan
I don't want to have a camp.
bobby lee
You know what I mean?
People.
unidentified
Human beings.
bobby lee
Not camp.
You know what I'm saying, okay?
unidentified
Camps.
bobby lee
And then, you know, Mencia had a group, his group, right?
And I felt like I was in the middle and that, you know what I mean, I felt like at a time where I had to choose, I felt like.
I stayed out of it, you know what I mean, for the most part.
For the longest time, I wouldn't talk about it in radio or anything like that because people would bring it up.
I'd go on tour and they're like, so, you know what I mean?
And I'd be like, I don't want to talk about it, you know what I mean?
joe rogan
As far as just like the amount of interest generated by that, that's probably one of the most controversial videos in like the history of comedy.
bobby lee
It probably was, yeah.
joe rogan
Kind of crazy when you think about it.
unidentified
It was insane.
joe rogan
But, you know, what was also kind of crazy was, you remember what the environment was like before anybody called him on that, where everybody was on eggshells and you were constantly terrified of that guy walking in the room?
bobby lee
Yeah, it was crazy.
joe rogan
And then he was becoming successful?
He was becoming successful, and then it just got scary.
bobby lee
Like I said, you know, I just don't see that part.
brian redban
Did you see the movie I Am Tommy?
joe rogan
How can you say that?
How can you say that?
Because you do.
You did.
bobby lee
Because...
joe rogan
He stole some shit from you, man.
I mean, I know you had issues with it.
bobby lee
Okay, I know.
Can I just say this, though?
joe rogan
Yes.
bobby lee
All right.
Here's what it is, okay, like we said before, okay, that it is like, you know, one of those situations where the guy, when I was an open-miker, right, he bought me a car.
It was a used car, but I didn't have a car, right?
And then he took me on tour.
Him and Pauly Shore would rotate.
One guy would take me, you know what I mean?
joe rogan
Who was more fun to hang out with on the road?
bobby lee
Obviously Pauly, because he didn't make me cry, you know what I mean?
And also, I used to get pussy.
You can't get pussy on a Mencia show.
joe rogan
Why not?
bobby lee
Because they're all married and have 19 kids, and you know what I mean?
And they're like...
Any Mencia fan, you know, I love you, but my point is...
You know what I mean?
But my point is this, that...
joe rogan
So how did he make you cry?
bobby lee
Well, he would make me go to golf with him.
unidentified
What?
bobby lee
He plays golf, and I hate golf.
And I'd have to get early and bring the golf bag.
joe rogan
You would have to bring the bags.
bobby lee
I did it once or twice, and I stopped doing it.
He would tell you to carry the bags.
No, no, no.
One time he...
Let me move over that.
joe rogan
He made you carry bags?
bobby lee
One time I had to...
We played Denver once, and he made me sleep.
He didn't give me a hotel room.
This is what he wasn't doing as well.
It was in the beginning, and I had to sleep in Albert's closet.
joe rogan
Cut the fuck out of here.
He took you on the road with him and you didn't even get a hotel.
bobby lee
He wasn't selling out at the time.
This was literally in 96, 95. You know what I mean?
Wow.
He was always like a brother, in a sense.
You know what I mean?
He nurtured you.
He didn't nurture me.
joe rogan
How did you cry?
What made you cry?
bobby lee
Just having to get up and there was a time where you had to sell merch.
And as a young comic, you don't know what to do.
You want to make it.
You appreciate the stage time.
And it was just...
joe rogan
So he makes you work for him on top of just opening up for him?
bobby lee
Yeah, but to be honest, a lot of guys do that shit, dude.
joe rogan
Really?
bobby lee
Yeah, I don't.
Because I have openers now, and I treat them with the utmost.
brian redban
Pauly does.
bobby lee
Yeah, Pauly does all the time.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
Didn't Pauly get you to work for free?
Didn't Pauly...
bobby lee
That's another...
I cannot...
joe rogan
You can't discuss that?
bobby lee
No, because that's another, you know what I mean?
What is this, okay?
Mency is one thing, but Pauly, right?
He specifically made me a regular there.
Like, he made his mom pass me, right?
And so there is a specific relationship.
No one on planet Earth talks to me like Pauly talks to me.
joe rogan
In what way?
bobby lee
He talks to me like I'm literally his younger brother.
Still do they.
And I understand it because I've known him for so long.
But in the world, I'm almost 40. You know what I mean?
I don't let anyone talk to me the way Pauly talks to me.
joe rogan
But talks to you in a disrespectful way?
bobby lee
No, it's just like he'll say, dude.
He'll say stuff like, dude, you should be bigger than you are now.
joe rogan
You say, what about you, bitch?
bobby lee
Yeah, but the thing is...
joe rogan
Does she say that?
bobby lee
No.
I don't say that.
joe rogan
Say, what happened with you, Encino man?
brian redban
Hey.
I have to go to the comedy store once in a while.
I don't want to burn any bridges.
unidentified
See what I'm saying, though?
bobby lee
It's like that.
joe rogan
What I'm saying, someone talking to you like that's not nice.
bobby lee
Yeah, but Paulie also, you know, when I moved down...
brian redban
He's like a big brother, though.
bobby lee
You know, I lived in his house.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
You lived in his house?
bobby lee
Well, he charged me rent.
But the thing is, is that...
You know, and he brought me on the road, so it's like...
I'm going to pee really bad.
I'll be back in one second.
joe rogan
Okay.
bobby lee
Is that cool?
joe rogan
Sure.
brian redban
Go ahead.
joe rogan
He's going to get his story straight.
He's going to go in there.
bobby lee
No, I don't have my story straight.
joe rogan
What if I said about Pauly?
bobby lee
No, no.
joe rogan
I'm just kidding.
unidentified
I'm just kidding.
joe rogan
We're just fucking around.
Turn around.
brian redban
So, Joe, I saw a movie last night.
You already bought it.
I guess it's on the way.
It's called Enter the Void.
And it is like somebody saw you talk about DMT and tried to write a script around it, around living in Tokyo.
joe rogan
Well, maybe they just did it.
brian redban
Huh?
Well, no.
It has a lot to do with DMT. Yeah, but maybe they did DMT. Yeah, but how they describe it in the movie sounds like they're reenacting you.
You're going to fucking...
The movie was made for you.
joe rogan
Really?
brian redban
It's amazing.
And then it gets really annoying.
But the first half of the movie is like, wow, this is fucking cool.
They show a DMT thing, what it feels like to be on DMT for the first half of the movie.
And there gets parts where it sounds exactly like how you describe it.
And then whoever directed the movie, which his name is...
Hold on, I'll tell you one second.
It's directed by Gaspar Ngo.
He is brilliant.
When does it come out on DVD? It came out Tuesday.
It's on Netflix.
joe rogan
So I probably already have it.
brian redban
Netflix streaming HD too.
But it is so amazing.
If I ever make a movie, I want to make my movie look exactly like this guy.
joe rogan
Wow.
brian redban
Brilliant.
But then it gets really annoying and there's all these like...
Well, one of the director's things is, like, it does, like, the strobe light thing through it.
It gets so bad that I feel like I'm getting hypnotized.
Like, this movie was made by Google or the government, and it's like, you'll see what I mean.
Like, you'll sit there and, like, I'm gonna have a seizure.
I'm having a seizure.
Wait, I'm being programmed to do something.
All right, this, you know, it's fucked up.
joe rogan
Do you know that there's an Olympic logo that they had to pull because it was giving people epileptic seizures?
Yeah.
It was an Al Roker thing where Al Roker, I listened to it on Opie and Anthony.
It was pretty fucking funny because Opie and Anthony were shitting on Al Roker because Al Roker was making fun of epileptics.
He said, so if you're still watching this, if you're not flopping around on the ground, you know, and so he starts making fun of it.
And then the next day he comes back and says, I was only making fun of the ad.
I was never making fun of epileptics.
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
Which is total bullshit.
brian redban
When you see this though, it's amazing that there's not fucking five warnings on the DVD before you even watch it.
Because it's so bad that it feels like you're being fucking brainwashed.
joe rogan
Well, do you remember that dude that we had on the message board that had a...
His wife was epileptic and she would watch certain avatars on people's screens.
They had flashing avatars.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
What was his name?
Jim.
Jim.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
He's a nice guy.
I hung out with him.
He was Marilyn Manson's webmaster.
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
Really fucking good dude.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
I hung with him and his wife, and his wife has some weird condition where if she sees anything flashing, strobing, those little animated GIF files that fly, she would just, tongue rolls back, eyes roll back in her head, falls onto the ground.
brian redban
This movie would make her pregnant.
That's how bad it is.
What the fuck?
joe rogan
What the fuck is it with people that certain things just make your brain shut off?
Like flashes and strobes.
brian redban
I can understand that.
If you see this, you'll feel sick in your stomach when you see parts of this movie.
You'll have to turn away and look at the ground for five minutes.
bobby lee
But is the movie good?
brian redban
The movie is the director.
You'll fall in love with the director.
The movie is so good at the beginning and interesting and you'll never see anything like it.
And the trips, the visuals, if you're stoned when you see it, you might have a panic attack.
I watched it in 3D last night and I was like, I am tripping right now.
I feel like I'm on acid right now.
unidentified
Really?
brian redban
It's so good.
Then it just gets boring and confusing.
joe rogan
Don't tell me about it.
bobby lee
Why would I watch it?
brian redban
No, no.
joe rogan
It sounds interesting.
brian redban
I mean, it's still, I like it, but it just kind of fades off after it gets, it's really cool.
And then it kind of just kind of does.
joe rogan
Well, you and I don't always agree on movies.
There's probably a few movies that you like.
bobby lee
Have you seen that movie Irreversible?
brian redban
What?
Irreversible.
joe rogan
Irreversible.
No, what's that about?
bobby lee
It's a movie played backwards, right?
And it's notorious because there's a five-minute rape scene in it, in a tunnel.
brian redban
Right.
bobby lee
Which, I swear to God, the most brutal thing I've ever seen in my life.
Really?
And people online say it's the worst rape scene ever.
You have to see it.
Irreversible.
joe rogan
Is this a Japanese movie?
bobby lee
No, it's German or some shit like that.
brian redban
Nice.
unidentified
Yeah.
bobby lee
You know, they're fucked up.
brian redban
Human centipede.
joe rogan
Not into that.
Not into watching people get raped.
bobby lee
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
I watched Food, Inc.
the other day.
bobby lee
Great.
joe rogan
And fucking destroyed.
Disturbing, man.
I watched it on the way home from West Palm Beach, Florida.
And it's disturbing as shit, dude.
When that lady started talking about her son dying and about her son got E. coli from a Jack-in-the-Box burger and how he was suffering at the end, I had to shut it off.
bobby lee
But even in the 70s, Jack-in-the-Box had a big controversy where not only one person died, but a bunch of people died.
brian redban
Right.
unidentified
Really?
bobby lee
Yeah, from their food.
joe rogan
Dude, Food Inc.
is scary as fuck.
And I've had some people email me and tweet me saying that, well, it's not really that bad.
This is propaganda.
They're just trying to shock you.
But how can they be trying to shock you if they're showing you reality?
I mean, if what they're showing exists on any level, it's terrifying.
When they show these cows that are caked in manure, and this one cow, there was a plastic ring, and his stomach was exposed, and they were reaching into his stomach.
I'm like, whoa, what the fuck?
And how about chickens, man?
If you didn't know, I mean, look, if you like your cheeseburgers and you like to go to Wendy's at 2 o'clock in the morning, and I do too, man, don't watch this movie.
It's going to fuck with your head.
But these chickens, they give these chickens steroids and antibiotics and all kinds of things, and they fuck with their genetics somehow or another to get them to grow so ridiculously big and plump that they can't walk.
And they die all the time.
They just fall down and die.
brian redban
Not Foster Farms.
If people make fun of Chinese work, Yeah, they have those commercials about how they plump them up and put salts and stuff like that and just make them really fat with salt and water and stuff in foster farms.
Their whole advertising is based on that.
joe rogan
So their advertising is based on they don't use hormones.
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
Okay, well that's good to know, man.
It's good to know.
There's got to be a humane way to make food.
If it costs a couple bucks more, it's worth it.
I don't know how much more it would cost to not have cows.
I'm down with eating meat, okay?
Don't get me wrong, but the way that they're doing, the way they're producing meat for fast food, it's fucking crazy.
It's totally beyond being humane.
It's beyond that.
It's gotten to this factory, consciousness-less, just feelingless place where they're just stuffing all these animals in these small areas and getting as much bang for their buck as they can.
bobby lee
They suck.
They make this food like they make an iPod, like it's a factory system, right?
And if there's no love or care or anything, it's just let's make the product.
That's why people make fun of Chinese all the time for the things that they eat.
Like if you ever go to a Chinese market, you can get anything.
Butterfly wings or, you know what I mean?
Or, you know what I mean?
The shoulder of a meerkat or whatever, you know what I mean?
Like they'll eat anything.
But the thing is that Americans eat way worse.
With these cows, you know what I mean?
Just tainted meat.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
People think that, well, also, first of all, China has a billion people.
And it's self-sustainable.
China doesn't import food from anywhere else.
So that's pretty crazy in and of itself.
They're able to feed a billion people.
When you feed a billion people like that, you've got to eat bugs.
bobby lee
There is a restaurant in Bangkok that serves animal dick.
That's all they do.
And there's a six-month waiting list to get into this restaurant.
joe rogan
What?
bobby lee
Animal dick.
joe rogan
In Bangkok?
bobby lee
How do you order that?
I'd whisper...
joe rogan
There was an Anthony Bourdain show the other day where they were serving animal dick soup.
Apparently it was really good.
bobby lee
Yeah, you're supposed to get your V-roll.
joe rogan
Wow.
Really?
brian redban
Check this out.
That movie you brought up, Irreversible, whatever it's called, and the movie I was talking about, same director.
What is the fucking odds of that shit, dude?
bobby lee
Really?
brian redban
That is insane.
bobby lee
That's insane.
joe rogan
Wow.
bobby lee
Yeah, it was a good movie.
brian redban
This director...
unidentified
You'll love Irreversible, though.
brian redban
That's crazy.
bobby lee
But you'll stop at the five-minute rape scene.
You'll turn it off.
joe rogan
Well, that was what I was saying.
I was so sad when I was watching this woman cry that her son died from Jack in the Box.
I was like...
This is just bumming me the fuck out.
I get it.
I get it.
The food's fucked up.
The whole situation's fucked up.
I don't really need to keep going here.
It's like, what are you going to do, though?
That's the big question.
The problem with us is, with everybody, is you're always doing something.
You're busy.
You're hungry.
What are you going to do?
There's a supermarket, but you don't have time to go there.
bobby lee
Especially on the road.
joe rogan
Yeah, especially on the road.
bobby lee
The Waffle House is open, and you're like, okay, I have to go there.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
The road gets creepy, as far as food choices go.
I always bring vitamins with me, and I try to eat as much salad and stuff on the road as possible.
bobby lee
I don't understand how they don't have 24-hour restaurants in small towns.
If everything closes at 11, it's like you can't eat anything.
You have to go to the wall.
I've been to Walmarts at like 3 in the morning, just getting like fruit, you know what I mean?
Just surviving.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's insane.
Yeah, if you go to small towns, there's no 24-hour food.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's a tricky thing.
And you're staying at the Holiday Inn, there's no room service either.
bobby lee
Yeah, yeah.
I've been there.
brian redban
Something we talked about a couple weeks ago came true when we were talking about how people's jobs are getting taken away by robots and stuff like that.
I was at El Puyoloco the other day, which is like a Mexican chicken place, and they had the order yourself kiosk up now where you sit there, menu screen, like taco, special instructions, no, burrito, and then you pay for it, kind of like a grocery store, and then they just call out your name and give you your food.
joe rogan
So they cut out the person that takes the order.
brian redban
And it's actually nicer.
It was so nice because, you know, a lot of times you order, but you don't even think like, yeah, I would like extra tomatoes on this, but I don't want to be extra.
joe rogan
How many times have you been in a fast food place and you're talking, it's like, who?
There was a girl on the MADtv that had a really funny sketch about that.
There was a girl on MADtv, she's very pretty, and she had a very funny sketch about a girl who was the counter help, but she was always like...
bobby lee
Oh, Bong Kukri?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
bobby lee
That one, yeah, yeah.
Angela.
joe rogan
Who does that?
bobby lee
Angela Johnson?
joe rogan
She's very funny.
bobby lee
Yeah, she's very funny, yeah.
joe rogan
That girl had a really funny Vietnamese nail salon.
bobby lee
Yeah, that one too, yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Doesn't that bit have like 10 million hits or something on YouTube?
bobby lee
Yeah, she's a sellout on the road.
joe rogan
From that bit?
bobby lee
She's killing it.
brian redban
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
And how many minutes does she have as an act?
bobby lee
22 minutes, 23 minutes.
unidentified
That's hysterical.
joe rogan
I'd heard that she was a middle, and she was middling and crushing and filling places, and then the headliner would go on after him.
Half the people would leave.
bobby lee
Well, Steve-O's doing that now.
joe rogan
Really?
He's middling?
bobby lee
No, he was in New York.
He hosted, but now he's closing, but he closes with 30, which is fine.
joe rogan
Well, what he should do is host.
What guys should do if they're not really...
Bring a bunch of good comics on the road with you and host.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, I watched Charlie Murphy develop an act from nowhere.
You know, I met Charlie two years into his journey, you know, and I watched him as he was trying to put together his acting.
Charlie went right to headlining, man.
bobby lee
Yeah, I know.
joe rogan
And it was fucking hard.
bobby lee
I bet.
joe rogan
Fucking unbelievable hard.
bobby lee
Did you see that thing online of him getting booed?
joe rogan
Oh my god, so awful.
Yeah, yeah.
bobby lee
And it's that room.
That room is so retarded.
joe rogan
What room is that?
unidentified
What?
bobby lee
Here's what I'm saying.
joe rogan
Black crowds?
bobby lee
No, that's not what I'm saying.
That's not exactly what I said.
I didn't say that at all.
joe rogan
So what did you say?
bobby lee
Those kind of rooms are fucking hard.
Difficult.
Retarded was the wrong word.
joe rogan
Black crowds.
brian redban
Shock the Sundays.
joe rogan
Black crowds, once you start failing, they're not rooting for you to get back on your feet.
bobby lee
What I'm saying is that I go on the road and I get black people to come to my show.
And they're legitimate fans.
And I love them dearly.
That's not what I'm talking about.
There's a cultural thing, you know what I mean?
When you go to certain areas like South Philly or whatever, and you do a show, and it's all black, even in the lineup, and you have to perform, it's the most difficult situation ever.
joe rogan
Right.
bobby lee
For a guy like me.
joe rogan
Well, you know, it's a different kind of crowd and I think the good thing about those crowds is that they don't let you be indulgent and they want your jokes to come quick.
They want to come quick.
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
They don't want to wait around.
bobby lee
They're also tonal, right?
You can't be monotone.
joe rogan
No.
bobby lee
You got it!
You know what I mean?
Some excitement.
joe rogan
Attitude.
bobby lee
That's right!
You know what I mean?
Or whatever.
You know what I mean?
Because now I'm like, I used to be more energetic.
Now I just kind of talk like this.
Because I want to be more myself.
No, not only that.
It's because...
No, it's because it's pace.
joe rogan
Right.
bobby lee
You know, when I first started headlining, I wanted to do what I did as an opener, which is go out and gung-ho get them.
You know what I mean?
As a headliner.
And then 15 minutes in, you're out.
unidentified
Right.
bobby lee
You know what I mean?
You just can't do that pace for 45 minutes.
joe rogan
Well, you gotta...
First of all, it's not fun for the audience either.
You gotta create a show.
bobby lee
That's what I'm saying.
joe rogan
It's like when you go to see a movie, it's not an opening gun scene that lasts for 90 minutes and then the thing shuts off.
You're like, what the fuck did I just watch?
bobby lee
Yeah, so now I build...
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
joe rogan
And you have peaks and valleys.
bobby lee
Yeah, but in Black Rooms, you can't do that.
joe rogan
Can't do that?
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
There's no peaking?
You just hammer it?
bobby lee
I just feel like you have to be like Earthquake and just hammer it away.
joe rogan
Well, he's hilarious.
How long does Earthquake do?
bobby lee
45. But he's like perfect.
joe rogan
45 sprinting uphill.
Shooting all the way.
bobby lee
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Throw your backpack back and lie on your grass.
bobby lee
And then once you lose them, like in a white room, when you lose them, you think, I'll get them back.
joe rogan
Right.
There's no getting black crowds back.
brian redban
Wow, I want to try it.
I want to try it black.
joe rogan
You will die.
You will die up there, son.
You will get barbecued.
The most important thing with black rooms is economy of words, first of all, and a short attention span.
You've got to hammer them with bits.
brian redban
I did my black version of my set once at Flappers and Burbank, and it actually killed.
joe rogan
What do you mean a black version?
brian redban
I just do it more like he said.
Instead of doing your jokes normal, I kind of be like...
I went to the store the other day to get a hat.
My girlfriend got the same one.
He's just starting out.
bobby lee
He's just starting out.
brian redban
You know Aziz?
Or whatever his name is?
Aziz?
unidentified
Az Lappers and Burbank Club.
Have you played there?
joe rogan
Never been there.
bobby lee
I may never play there.
joe rogan
I heard it's good.
brian redban
It's really nice.
bobby lee
I heard it's nice.
brian redban
Brand new.
bobby lee
You'd like it.
No, I just don't do well in those kind of things.
joe rogan
What do you mean you don't do well?
bobby lee
I don't do good in Ha Ha.
joe rogan
The Ha Ha Cafe?
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
Why not?
bobby lee
Because I don't know what it is.
I think what it is is because it's free.
joe rogan
Oh, the audience is not paying to go there?
unidentified
Is that what it is?
bobby lee
That's not what I'm saying.
What I'm saying though is that...
joe rogan
You're doing this free set?
bobby lee
No, that's not what I'm saying either.
What I'm saying is that there's two types of audiences, I feel.
That's why I don't comp when I go on the road because of the fact that if you comp, there's a general feeling of like...
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
It's not a good show.
bobby lee
It's not a good show.
joe rogan
You don't expect much.
bobby lee
Exactly.
But when you have people pay, people are respectful.
joe rogan
Yes.
bobby lee
You don't have as many hecklers, you know what I mean?
And I'm fine.
I don't care who comes.
But the thing is, is that, ha ha, right?
They don't, not only do they not pay you, but you have to pay for your drinks.
joe rogan
Right.
bobby lee
Like, can I get a Red Bull?
They go, it's $3 or whatever.
I'm like, I'm playing it for free.
You know what I mean?
Already there's a feeling of disrespect.
Now, I don't know what Flappers is like, but I just don't like that disrespect.
brian redban
Flappers is a real club.
It's nice.
joe rogan
I know what you're talking about, though.
There's some fringe clubs that are used to dealing with open micers and guys doing brainer shows.
bobby lee
That's what it is.
There's a disrespect.
joe rogan
When you go and do a set there, they don't treat you differently.
Like, well, here's a...
bobby lee
And I don't need, dude, I don't need much.
All I need is this.
Can I get a drink for free?
Like a bottle of water?
Okay.
And in town, of course, I'll do a million free shows.
You know what I mean?
And be respectful.
joe rogan
Isn't it funny how places like that are just a little bit outside of the city and they're a different world.
bobby lee
It's a different world, yeah.
joe rogan
It's a different world.
The crowd feels different when you do North Hollywood, do ha-ha.
bobby lee
You see races you've never seen before.
Like, is that an Aztec Indian?
You know what I mean?
Or whatever, you know what I mean?
Like, I thought that guy's died off or something.
Yeah, it's weird.
joe rogan
Where's your favorite club to work out at?
bobby lee
Seattle.
joe rogan
Seattle?
The Comedy Underground?
bobby lee
No.
joe rogan
What place?
bobby lee
Parlor Live.
joe rogan
Parlor Live?
What is that?
bobby lee
No.
Parlor Live is a new club there, and it's attached to one of the Microsoft buildings.
joe rogan
Yeah?
bobby lee
Yeah, and it's like, it's a nightlife.
They have pool hall, dance club, comedy club in one floor.
joe rogan
How big is the comedy club?
bobby lee
It's huge.
It's like, not huge, but it's 300. Really?
And it's one of those places where I sell out.
joe rogan
Is it Seattle?
bobby lee
Yeah.
It's like, it's a little outside of Seattle, but it's like 15 minutes from the city, right?
And it's called Beaumont.
joe rogan
Okay.
bobby lee
Okay.
And literally, it's clean.
Like, you know, the stage is nice.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
Right.
bobby lee
The green room is clean, brand new couches.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
Right.
bobby lee
It's just a nice, nice environment.
joe rogan
Right.
bobby lee
You make a lot of money.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
You like Seattle?
bobby lee
Yeah.
And the kids or the people that are in the audience are nerdy.
They make money.
joe rogan
Right.
bobby lee
Right?
And they're just happy to be there.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
It's weird how parts of the country are not hit by the economy and other ones are.
bobby lee
That's one of them.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
When I was in West Palm, they were telling me that, no, we didn't really get hit by the economy.
unidentified
I know.
bobby lee
I know, it's crazy.
joe rogan
Because it's all like retirees and old people with money.
I'm sure some people from West Palm are like, fuck you, we got hit.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
But the club was like, they really didn't suffer.
bobby lee
Yeah, like Kansas City, they suffered, it feels like.
There was a suffering.
joe rogan
That's the kind of place that would suffer.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, like Iowa.
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
The whole thing is so strange because I don't understand the economy.
So I'm always like, okay, well, I guess it's better now.
Is it better now?
Is it coming around?
bobby lee
It's not.
Like my parents, for the last 35 years, owned their own clothing store.
They had owned a business.
You know, it's called, at first it was called Fashion Gal.
It's a clothing store for fat ethnic women.
joe rogan
Fashion girl?
bobby lee
Yeah, Fashion Gal.
joe rogan
Fashion Gal.
bobby lee
Yeah.
And so it's like, cater to, it's like Lane Bryant, but for ethnics.
joe rogan
Okay.
bobby lee
Okay.
And they did fine over the last 30 years.
And as soon as the economy hit, I mean, they went bankrupt.
You know what I mean?
I had to pay for their mortgage.
You know what I mean?
And they are destitute.
joe rogan
Man.
bobby lee
It is tough.
They live in Phoenix.
You know, it's tough for them.
And they had to fire their whole staff.
Now they work and they're in their 70s.
joe rogan
Whoa.
Where do they work now?
bobby lee
At the same place.
At the store.
It's called Changes now.
And they do shifts.
Like my mom will do the morning shift.
My dad will come in.
And there's a bottle of...
There's literally a bottle of piss.
Like a jug of piss.
Because they don't have any employees, right?
So my dad has to piss in a jug.
brian redban
Oh my god.
bobby lee
Right?
joe rogan
Because he can't leave the station.
bobby lee
He can't leave the store.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
And he doesn't have a bathroom there.
bobby lee
No.
It's in the mall, right?
joe rogan
Oh my god.
bobby lee
So it is sad.
joe rogan
What if he has to shit?
bobby lee
He just holds it.
unidentified
What?
bobby lee
Well, unless it's a turtle head situation.
joe rogan
He could die.
bobby lee
He could die, yeah.
joe rogan
He should get a diaper.
brian redban
So everyone go to, what's it called again?
What's the name?
bobby lee
Changes.
brian redban
Everyone go to Changes.
bobby lee
It's in Arizona.
joe rogan
What part of Arizona?
bobby lee
Phoenix, like outside of the Chandler or something.
joe rogan
Fuck, man.
bobby lee
Mesa, something like that.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's a scary thing being an old person when your body is slowly starting to fade away and you're still laboring every day.
And by the way, that takes years off your life.
Getting up before you want to, working, doing things you don't want to do all day.
bobby lee
Yeah, but I told my dad, I go, Dad, you don't have to work.
They need, what, $2,500, $3,000 a month.
unidentified
Right.
bobby lee
To get by, right?
Maybe even less, right?
I said, you know what?
I said, with the unemployment and social security, retire, and I'll take that over the rest.
joe rogan
That's very generous.
bobby lee
And you know what my dad said?
unidentified
What?
If I don't work, I die.
joe rogan
Wow.
bobby lee
Right?
So I go, all right, keep working.
Because I don't want him to die, you know?
joe rogan
Good call.
bobby lee
Yeah, but it's sad because he's still got that ethnic, that Asian work ethic.
That they have to work.
joe rogan
That's a trippy thing, dude.
bobby lee
It's fucking crazy, dude.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a very weird thing, man, dealing with people's mortality and parents.
unidentified
God!
joe rogan
It's weird when you realize, and especially your parents get to a certain point in time when you realize you probably have more information in your head about the way the world works than your parents do.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because your parents grew up in a totally different time.
bobby lee
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
You know, they weren't curious when they were young.
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
Fucking, it's a strange, strange thing, man.
bobby lee
Yeah, it's actually kind of sad.
joe rogan
It is?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And it's going to be you someday, too, maybe.
You think you'll have kids?
bobby lee
No.
joe rogan
Never?
bobby lee
No, no, no.
joe rogan
You're going to get snipped?
Go Doug Stanhope style?
bobby lee
No.
unidentified
No?
joe rogan
Just hope?
bobby lee
No, because I masturbate so much that what comes out is like vising drops.
brian redban
Yeah, me too.
bobby lee
Yeah, yeah.
Like bloop, bloop, and it's done.
joe rogan
That's it?
How many times a day are you masturbating?
bobby lee
I do now a couple times.
Sometimes two eyes, once maybe.
joe rogan
How often do you use the flashlight?
bobby lee
I haven't used it in six months.
joe rogan
Really?
You just go use your hands instead?
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
What's wrong with you?
bobby lee
Why?
joe rogan
Flashlight feels better.
bobby lee
Yeah, but then I have to heat the oil, then I have to let it cool, then I have to put the batteries in the back, you know.
joe rogan
Speaking of sex, there's a fucking, there's a story in the news today, and apparently it's a legit story.
There's a man who's suing GlaxoSmithKline, the pharmaceutical company, and he's alleging that there's a drug that they gave him to treat Parkinson's disease that turned him into a gay sex and gambling addict.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
At 51 years old, the guy said, That's
bobby lee
not what happened, though.
joe rogan
No, but listen, man, you're not right.
It's not true.
Because I put this up on Twitter, and a bunch of people who, you know, neuropsychologists and a bunch of different people who are qualified, started sending me, like, I got like six or seven tweets from people who either are studying it in school or actually doctors in the field, and they were saying that it's a dopamine agonist, I think that's the word, and that it does facilitate addiction, and it can interrupt your natural patterns of thinking.
bobby lee
No, I agree with that.
But what I'm saying is that if you have an addiction of exposing yourself and doing gay sex, that's been hidden inside you for many years.
joe rogan
So you think this was just suppressed?
unidentified
It's not out of the blue that I want to suck dick out of the blue.
joe rogan
The police taking a crazy drug.
bobby lee
No, not out of the blue.
joe rogan
Maybe it seemed more exciting to him.
Maybe it never, like regular sex, he's 51 years old.
Maybe regular sex was, God, I'm so tired of getting laid.
I mean, think about another 11 years for you.
You're 40 years old.
Think about another 11 years from now.
You're like, God, I'm so tired of your pussy.
This is so boring.
And then somebody gives you the drug.
You're like, why don't you go suck some cock?
And you're like, why don't I suck some cock?
bobby lee
Why don't you dress up like a girl?
unidentified
Damn.
bobby lee
I've heard this phenomenon when people are so jaded with sex, like rock stars or whatever, that they get so tired of it, it just turns into Dick.
You know what I mean?
I don't agree with that either.
I think Dick was always in the picture.
joe rogan
Yeah, but I think everybody's got their own little story about how...
I mean, there was a lot of bisexuality going on in the 70s, according to many people, Mick Jagger and David Bowie and Lou Reed.
bobby lee
Yeah, all that stuff.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
But I think a lot of that was like...
You know, probably one crafty gay dude talked all these other dudes into, you know, it's just cool, man.
bobby lee
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Plus, they're all doing acid and experimenting with their consciousness.
And, you know, it is like one of those lost taboos.
It's like, okay, well, let's stop and look into why is gay sex such a massive taboo.
bobby lee
Okay, I agree with this, okay?
If you're fucked up.
You're faded.
You're drinking.
You're almost in a blackout drunk.
You know what I mean?
And you're with David Boy and you're a big rock star.
And David Boy pulls out his penis.
He's like, suck it.
You know what I mean?
I don't know.
joe rogan
Why do you have to be blacked out drunk?
What I was just saying was maybe they're experimenting with different ways of looking at the world.
Maybe they're being an artist and being like...
A rock star, being a creative person.
There's a lot of people that are creative people that are willing to take weird chances and do weird things just to see what...
unidentified
Maybe.
bobby lee
I'm not saying there's anything wrong with it.
joe rogan
So what are you saying?
bobby lee
You know what I mean?
I have gay people that represent me.
joe rogan
Oh, don't go there.
Stop that.
bobby lee
I'm not racist.
joe rogan
I have black friends.
unidentified
No, no.
bobby lee
Okay.
Oh, you're right.
You're right.
But what I'm saying is this.
I don't have anything against the lifestyle.
joe rogan
But you're convinced, though, that this wasn't because of the pills.
unidentified
No, what I'm saying is that...
bobby lee
What I'm saying is...
What's this guy's name?
Ted...
joe rogan
Ted Haggard.
bobby lee
Haggard, right?
Just out of the blue, you know what I mean?
He doesn't matter.
joe rogan
He's never said out of the blue that he...
He said he was gay the whole time.
He never said that.
He's been doing interviews recently where he says he was bisexual.
bobby lee
The whole time.
joe rogan
Yeah, he said what his issue is...
bobby lee
But that's what I'm saying, though.
joe rogan
But that's not what you're saying.
bobby lee
No, what I'm saying...
joe rogan
Okay, but this guy that never had any sexual encounters...
bobby lee
He hid it.
brian redban
Yeah, that's why I would think that Bobby...
What Bobby's saying is probably true, too.
Like, he probably had it in the back of his head.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
bobby lee
And because of socialization, right, he just refuses to address it.
And I agree that the pill did something to open his mind up, maybe.
You know what I mean?
But I feel like that instinct is there.
joe rogan
Yeah, you don't know what I mean.
Okay, that is a possibility, but why would you want to decide one way or another without being that guy?
Why would you even make a judgment call?
How the fuck could you know what caused this guy to do gay sex?
And once you go into his past and interview him and find out, have you ever been attracted to guys?
Did you ever have a wrestling match where you got a boner?
Yeah, yeah.
It is possible.
If attraction and all these different things are really neurochemical reactions that we have inside of our mind or inside of our brain, if we figure out a way to stimulate certain parts of the brain with...
Look, think about what we can do as far as antidepressants and all sorts of things that affect mood and neurochemistry.
What if they can give you something that makes you attracted to the opposite sex?
What if they can give you something that you're gay and all of a sudden you like girls?
Or give you something where you're heterosexual?
They were trying to do that in Iraq.
They were trying to come out with a bomb.
The CIA was.
They actually put research and development into this.
A gay bomb.
A bomb that they would detonate and it would be some sort of a chemical agent that would go into the air and it would make all these soldiers become rabidly attracted to each other and they would lose morale.
They would just start fucking.
brian redban
But I even think I'm the strongest of ecstasy.
I never wanted to suck a dick.
unidentified
That's not ecstasy.
joe rogan
We're not talking about ecstasy.
unidentified
I know, but it doesn't seem like any drug would switch that, though.
joe rogan
Ecstasy has a very specific affection reaction, but it doesn't make you sexually attracted to someone.
It is possible.
It's very possible that there could be something as strong as what ecstasy does for you in terms of affection and sensitivity and feeling for things and a loosening of insecurities.
It's very possible that something else could do it in another way that all of a sudden makes you gay.
I mean, if you talk to a gay guy, like we have gay friends, and not you and I together.
brian redban
We have gay friends.
We go to the gym and go see Bobby Lee.
Hey, Bobby!
unidentified
We go watch musicals.
joe rogan
When you talk to them, they never feel like there's something wrong with them.
They feel pretty fucking normal.
So what is it that separates...
I can't say his name, but the dude who's our friend, who's the piano guy from the store.
Great fucking guy.
So what is the difference between him and us?
Well, the only difference is that he's attracted to men.
Where is the connection in his mind?
Is it a chemical door that gets opened?
Is it a chromosome thing?
Is it a genetic thing?
What is it?
You know?
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, there's a theory about homosexuality, and one of the more interesting theories was they did a study in Rome, and what they found is that when women are promiscuous, especially like habitually promiscuous, women that constantly cheat on their men, they have a disproportionate amount of gay sons.
And they believe that what it is is a variation of the X chromosome.
Women have double X chromosome.
Men have XY. And they believe that there is a variation of the X chromosome among certain women that makes them incredibly attracted to men to the point where literally they can't even fucking control themselves.
Their number one obsession is getting new dick.
They just want to get new dick all the time.
And this gets transferred into their sons.
And their son all of a sudden has this incredible attraction to men.
bobby lee
Wow.
joe rogan
Totally makes sense.
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because haven't you met girls like that?
bobby lee
No.
joe rogan
You never met a girl that's just a fucking freak?
bobby lee
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
We've all met girls that just seemingly this poor girl's broken and she just can't help fucking everybody.
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know?
bobby lee
But the only way to truly find out if this is true is for me to take that pill and I'm not going to do it.
joe rogan
Well, it doesn't exist.
But, I mean, this drug exists.
bobby lee
No, this drug.
This one.
joe rogan
But here's the thing.
It's one guy, okay?
bobby lee
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
How many people took it and it just cured their Parkinson's?
You know what I'm saying?
bobby lee
That's what I'm saying, though, Joe.
joe rogan
No, no, no, but that doesn't mean anything.
brian redban
No, no, no, no.
joe rogan
Listen, it doesn't mean anything.
Because look, how many people are addicted to peanut butter?
I'm not.
I just had peanut butter and I'm fine.
But if you give peanut butter to a guy who's addicted to peanut butter, he fucking dies.
His throat closes up.
He can't get any air in.
There's a biological variation in human beings.
And you have to take that into account.
What if for this guy's, for whatever weird tweak, he takes this fucking drug and goes on a gay sex rampage?
You might be totally right.
He might be a freak, and he might be just a loser, and he lost all his money, and that's why he's suing this company.
bobby lee
Okay, how about this?
unidentified
How about this?
bobby lee
How about this?
Can I say this?
unidentified
Could be.
brian redban
That's what my money is.
bobby lee
I take the pill.
Let's say I'm that guy, right?
I take the pill.
I go on a gay sex rampage, right?
How about me just not taking it ever again?
joe rogan
Well, it wasn't just that.
bobby lee
I'm not taking the pill again.
joe rogan
This guy also lost all his money.
bobby lee
Yeah, on gambling.
I think that's...
He hit his bottom.
Don't take the pill anymore.
joe rogan
Right.
Well, you're a 12-step guy, so you understand about all that shit where people are in denial about that shit.
You know what I mean?
It's a weird thing when you're around people that are in denial about what caused their issues, right?
bobby lee
Yeah, and there's also...
I know that doing drugs and that kind of behavior isn't the root of the problem.
The root of the problem is something else.
Those are just symptoms.
joe rogan
Right.
But if a guy is or has been shown to be a fine, upstanding human being, I mean, I don't know this guy's history.
That's the problem with having this stupid argument, or this conversation, rather.
brian redban
When you lose that much money in gambling, immediately that's a red flag to me.
Like, okay, this guy's probably going to win.
joe rogan
But it wasn't until after he got on the medication that he started gambling.
Apparently he didn't gamble before that.
brian redban
Yeah.
Gamblers are often, you know, they tell the truth.
joe rogan
I don't have a problem with gambling, but I easily could have.
I was terrified of it when I used to play pool and I used to be around a lot of gambling addicts.
I was around a lot of them.
And I used to see them and I would say, this is scary shit.
Obviously gambling is fun and it becomes too much of an addiction to these people.
Whatever it is, don't do whatever the fuck they're doing.
bobby lee
Can I tell you what happened with gambling?
I was in the Fort Lauderdale Improv, and I put $5 in the machine, okay?
And I pressed the boat, it was a nickels machine.
joe rogan
It was a hard rock casino?
bobby lee
A hard rock, right?
And all of a sudden, the thing just went crazy.
You know what I mean?
Just crazy.
I don't even know what happened.
I got a combination or something.
Then all of a sudden, people are surrounding me.
People are in the back of me.
I'm like, what the fuck?
joe rogan
Who are these people?
bobby lee
Just other people watching.
I hit a jackpot.
joe rogan
So you're worried someone's going to jack your jackpot?
bobby lee
No, I'm just sitting there going, and I'm turning around.
Like, oh yeah, this is great, right?
And then the lady comes, because you get a ticket.
They go, you can't get a ticket because it's so much money that they're going to have to give it to you.
The lady comes up to me and she goes, congratulations.
I go, thank you.
And they go, so can I just see your ID? I gave her the ID and she goes, I can't give you the money.
I go, why?
She goes, your license is two months expired, which it is.
So I go, no, I want my fucking money.
We can't give it to you.
I went to the top Indian chief.
Like a council member, and I argued with them.
Two hours later, I'm in an office.
I go, I played the improv here.
I packed every room.
They come here to gamble, right?
Mine's two months, expired.
You can't give me a fucking...
Not that I need the money.
It's just the idea that I've never...
It was only $2,000, okay?
But the idea that I won a jackpot and they won't give me the money...
brian redban
That seems like it's against the law.
bobby lee
No, it's an IRS thing.
You need a valid private license.
brian redban
Yeah, but could you have just said, alright, hold my money, I'll go get my license, renew me back tomorrow?
bobby lee
No, I live in LA, dude.
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
Yeah, it costs you $2,000 to fly out there.
brian redban
But wouldn't casinos, like, hold your shit away?
unidentified
No, no, no.
bobby lee
I gave them my number.
I go, work it out with their counsel.
They have to go back.
You know what I mean?
And they never called me.
I couldn't get my money.
And I was so fucking mad.
I'm still upset about it now, kind of.
joe rogan
Well, they had an opportunity to fuck you, and they took it.
That's what it is.
bobby lee
Yeah, but that's so fucked up.
brian redban
It is fucked up.
That does not seem legal.
joe rogan
Casinos aren't in the paying out business.
They're in the you gambling and losing business.
bobby lee
I know, but here's the point, though.
I go there every year.
They know me.
I go to the desk.
Everyone loves me.
brian redban
Bobby's back.
bobby lee
You know what I mean?
Like, I know that people come, gamble at the casino, right, after my shows, right?
I feel like I've provided a service for this.
They can't fucking, you know what I mean?
One little clause.
Look through it.
joe rogan
Well, now you understand the true nature of your relationship with them.
They don't give a fuck about you.
That's the nature of the relationship, by the way, with fucking virtually every casino and player.
The bottom line is the player is a mark, and that's what it is.
And the mark, it's just like you let him win a little bit, let him get a little bit, make him feel like he's got something going on.
You cop him a room.
Hey, you want a nice meal?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Listen, even though we lost some money, we had a nice meal, we went to see a show.
You know, they comped us.
We went to see the fucking, the Lion King.
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
And that's what happens, man.
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
But the bottom line is, those fucking, like, go to these gigantic places, like the Venetian or the Bellagio, these fucking huge fountains and shit.
Who's paying for that?
Who's paying for that?
bobby lee
We are, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, you're paying for that by losing.
bobby lee
Right.
But what I'm saying is that if I would have won, like, a bigger jackpot, like, two million dollars, I don't know what I would have done.
I would have physically assaulted an American Indian.
joe rogan
Holy fuck, man.
bobby lee
I would litter for the rest of my life.
Make them cry.
brian redban
I would have freaked out about that.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's an issue, man.
brian redban
I would still be fighting that whole thing.
bobby lee
Well, no.
I lived through it.
joe rogan
No, what you should start doing is doing a bit about it on stage.
That's a bit.
There's a funny bit in there, Bobby.
Come on, man.
There's a funny bit in that.
You know?
But the thing is, they can take your fucking money.
They had no problem with you gambling.
So you're risking your money, but you can't get a return.
brian redban
You know what you should have done?
Wait, did they print out a $2,000 ticket?
bobby lee
No, because here's what it is.
If you win at a slot machine, you get a ticket.
Anything over $1,200 that you win is considered a jackpot.
brian redban
Okay, so then they have to come out to you.
bobby lee
So then they have to fill out IRS forms and this and that.
If I just would have made less than $800 less, then I would have been able to take my money.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
bobby lee
And then you know what I would have?
I mean, I would have had a good time.
I would have spent it at the casino anyway.
They would have had it in the end.
Then I would have gotten to a higher machine.
You know what I mean?
I just wanted a good time.
joe rogan
Or put it back in the community.
bobby lee
Yeah, something like that.
joe rogan
I always wanted to say it like that.
The community.
bobby lee
It's fucked up.
joe rogan
What is it about black people that they see community like that?
bobby lee
They see a lot of things going like that.
joe rogan
Yeah, but that's a big one.
Community.
bobby lee
Community.
joe rogan
Put it back in the community.
bobby lee
Yeah, they say that, yeah.
joe rogan
What happened?
So there's no way you can get this money back.
This is gone.
You're writing it off as a loss.
You've got to do a bit about this, bro.
bobby lee
Yeah, I will.
But the thing is that I called Joel.
joe rogan
How can he help you?
bobby lee
Well, he owns the improv, right?
He has a relationship with the hardcore.
joe rogan
And what did they say?
bobby lee
Joe said, there's nothing I can do.
You know what I mean?
And I'm like, but it doesn't make any sense because they know me.
joe rogan
It doesn't matter.
They don't give a fuck about you.
Now at least you know what the deal is.
bobby lee
Oh, I know what the deal is now.
joe rogan
Well, you know, it's also probably a rule that they can't circumvent.
I mean, who you're talking to is probably a guy who's going by corporate bylines, and this is the rules.
A person doesn't have a driver's license.
I mean, even though they know you, they have to kind of assume.
Like, who the fuck?
You know, if you can't write down a valid driver's license in the receipt so that you can get taxed on it...
brian redban
It just seems like they should be able to hold it for you.
Like, it seems like, yeah, you won.
You have credit, $2,000 credit.
You come back here with your license.
We'll give you the fucking money.
But until then, we're holding it for you.
bobby lee
Yeah.
brian redban
It seems like that's what casinos do anyways because they have, you know, you go there, like you're Jay-Z and stuff like that.
You have like a, you know, like almost a bank account with these people.
joe rogan
You're Jay-Z. Do you know what I did?
brian redban
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
bobby lee
Do you know what I did?
brian redban
So I bet you can get your $2,000.
bobby lee
No, I Googled.
I Googled my name.
joe rogan
You Googled your name?
bobby lee
In front of them.
Like an asshole.
joe rogan
Oh, did you really?
bobby lee
Yeah, I go, listen, I play this place.
I'm a headliner, right?
joe rogan
You Googled your name in front of them.
bobby lee
Yeah, and there was a computer there.
Look, that's a computer.
And I Googled, right?
And it went to my Wikipedia page.
joe rogan
Right.
bobby lee
I went to my Wikipedia.
I go, here's my picture.
Here's my birthday.
unidentified
You know what I mean?
bobby lee
I'm almost 40. Right.
You know what I mean?
Because I had no idea.
I didn't know what else to do.
joe rogan
Right.
bobby lee
What did they say?
We don't give a shit.
joe rogan
They didn't care?
bobby lee
No.
brian redban
Sounds like a scam to me.
joe rogan
And who's telling you this?
Who's the person saying they don't care?
bobby lee
Some American Indian with beads in his hair.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
And he was upset at you?
bobby lee
No, he was just basically really cool about it.
Just like, I know who you are.
I'm so sorry.
These are the rules.
joe rogan
Well, I guess those are the rules.
Here's the rules now.
You've got to write a bit about it.
bobby lee
I'm going to, yeah.
joe rogan
You have to, man.
bobby lee
I'm going to, I'm going to.
joe rogan
It's a $2,000 bit.
bobby lee
That makes me so fucking mad.
brian redban
That makes me mad.
bobby lee
I don't need the money.
It's just the principle of it.
brian redban
Yeah, absolutely.
bobby lee
You know what I mean?
I did it.
joe rogan
Yeah, but it does make sense.
I mean, it does make sense that they can't hook you up.
brian redban
Kind of.
joe rogan
To me, doesn't it?
brian redban
Not to me.
bobby lee
No, it doesn't make sense because, Joe, I basically work for that casino.
joe rogan
Sort of.
You work for Joel.
bobby lee
I work for Joel, but he has a relationship with them.
And it's not like I don't play there every week.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
He just sort of rents there, right?
bobby lee
He does rent a room.
He rents the rooms there.
But you understand what I'm saying.
It's like, in a sense, I give them business.
joe rogan
Right.
bobby lee
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
Do you like going on the road?
Do you dig it?
bobby lee
In some places, yes.
Some of them are like, I want to kill myself.
joe rogan
For a long time, you didn't go on the road.
bobby lee
I refused to do it.
joe rogan
Yeah, because I remember when we were back in, when I was doing the store, we would talk about it all the time.
You weren't going on the road back then.
bobby lee
I refused to do it.
joe rogan
And then we were somewhere recently, like I think it was San Jose, and they would say, yeah, Bobby Lee was just here to pack the place.
bobby lee
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
I was like, damn, Bobby Lee's on the road now.
bobby lee
That's the only reason now I go, because when I used to go on the road before, no one would come.
joe rogan
What changed that?
bobby lee
I don't know.
It was...
Well, here's what it was.
I would go to a market.
Now, my thing is this.
I go to a market first.
And at first, they don't really know me.
Or if they do, they don't know that I do stand-up, right?
unidentified
Right.
bobby lee
So I do a weekend pretty much for free.
They give you a guarantee, right?
joe rogan
Right.
bobby lee
And then the second time back, it's always better because I know that I deliver.
joe rogan
Right.
bobby lee
You know what I mean?
That my show is good.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
And so the people that saw you, they come see you again.
bobby lee
They bring more people.
Then the radio...
I love radio.
joe rogan
When will you come back?
Like if you say you do a gig, how long before you come back?
bobby lee
A year.
joe rogan
A year.
bobby lee
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
And how much of your material will be new in that year?
bobby lee
Maybe, and I'll be honest with you, not as much as maybe the next guy, but about 10-15 minutes.
joe rogan
10-15 minutes would be new in a year, really?
bobby lee
Yeah, because I'm not that prolific.
joe rogan
Really?
bobby lee
But the thing is, here's the thing is that a lot of my stuff now is improvised.
I have moments of just playing with the audience.
joe rogan
Yeah, a lot of that, right?
bobby lee
And also my thing is there's an element of crazy in my show where I usually go in the audience and I do crazy shit.
joe rogan
Like what?
unidentified
Yeah.
bobby lee
Like, you know, like if somebody will get up to go to the bathroom, I'll chase them out of the room and follow them to the bathroom.
joe rogan
Really?
bobby lee
Yeah.
And then I'll, yeah.
While the audience is, they love it.
You know what I mean?
And I'll pull my pants down.
I'll be in my underwear and I'll fall them into the bathroom.
joe rogan
Have you ever gotten in trouble for pulling your pants down?
bobby lee
Yeah, I did this one thing where I wanted to give a guy a lap dance.
So he came on stage.
And the music was playing and I got...
joe rogan
Were you on Parkinson's medication?
unidentified
No.
bobby lee
And I got naked and I had a sack come out.
And you can tell that this guy was extremely homophobic.
unidentified
Really?
bobby lee
Right?
So the music's playing and I jump on top of him.
joe rogan
Oh, Jesus.
bobby lee
While he's sitting on the stool.
unidentified
Right.
bobby lee
And he literally picked my body and threw me into the ground.
unidentified
Wow.
bobby lee
You know what I mean?
And I hit the ground, you know what I mean, on my back.
joe rogan
Right.
bobby lee
And I got knocked unconscious for like a split second.
Oh.
You hear little stars.
joe rogan
Did you hit your head?
bobby lee
No, but I heard...
joe rogan
So what hit that made you see stars like that?
bobby lee
I hit my back and my head, maybe a little bit.
joe rogan
Maybe your head a little?
bobby lee
Yeah, but I also took the wind out of my body.
joe rogan
Right, okay.
bobby lee
Right, so I hear...
joe rogan
Right, you got jacked.
bobby lee
Yeah, I got jacked.
And I jumped on top of him again.
joe rogan
You jumped on him again?
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
And what did he do then?
bobby lee
Because nothing.
joe rogan
He just took it?
bobby lee
Because the thing got a laugh.
When he threw me off of me, it got a laugh.
joe rogan
So he enjoyed it.
bobby lee
And I stood back out, and I looked in his eyes, and he kind of went, he kind of liked the laugh.
joe rogan
Right, right, right.
bobby lee
So I did it again, right?
Because he got addicted to the laugh, right?
Because at first it was hatred.
joe rogan
Right.
bobby lee
Like, get off me, gook, you know, kind of thing.
Whoa.
That's not what he said.
unidentified
Whoa.
You know what I mean?
That's what he said.
bobby lee
But in the eyes, I can tell that there was a thing.
So then when I fell down, we connected.
I'm like, okay, I can do it again.
Wow.
Like a sense.
That's the worst thing that's around.
joe rogan
That's a weird thing, right?
When you're ad-libbing with someone, you don't know exactly where this is going to go.
bobby lee
That's exciting.
joe rogan
It's fun, right?
unidentified
Yeah, it's fun.
joe rogan
Well, it's also, too, you and I both came up in the store.
And the store, I mean, we've talked about this so many times in the podcast, the store for all its terrible qualities.
The best thing about it is the fact that no one was paying attention, ever.
There's no crowd control.
There's no one.
The comics are forced to take care of audiences themselves.
And sometimes you just deal with incredibly hostile audiences.
bobby lee
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
I've never worked at a club consistently where there's more insane shit happening.
bobby lee
And people say, like, I hear other comments go, yeah, this room is tough.
I go, you don't know nothing.
joe rogan
You don't even know what you're talking about.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, they don't even know.
If they haven't worked at the store, like, there's so many people that go, yeah, that place is evil.
I don't do this store.
The store is evil.
It is.
Yes, it is.
But guess what?
bobby lee
I wouldn't even say evil.
joe rogan
No, there's just...
There's a quality of evil to it.
I think that quality is because of the fact that it's C-Rose Nightclub, the fact that it was Bugsy Siegel's place.
You can't get past the fact that people were murdered in that place.
bobby lee
Yeah, but it also has to do with the color of the building.
I really believe.
You know how they say you can't paint your walls in your bedroom red, like blood red, because psychologically it's not good for you.
Do you know that?
brian redban
It makes you angry.
bobby lee
It makes you angry.
Like silver too.
I try to paint my room silver once and they go, it's not because you'll feel like you're trapped in it.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
Spaceship.
bobby lee
I feel like black, you know, like in a cage.
Black, I don't know what it does.
joe rogan
I was thinking of painting these walls black.
bobby lee
No, don't.
joe rogan
Do you think it'd be okay for a podcast?
brian redban
I would never paint walls black.
bobby lee
See, this is the color what walls, but these are neutral colors.
brian redban
Yeah.
bobby lee
These are nice.
brian redban
It's relaxing.
bobby lee
I feel very good right now.
joe rogan
Do you feel good?
bobby lee
Yeah, I feel like this is the color I'm going to leave it here just for you, bro.
Like coffee.
joe rogan
It took so long to get you on the podcast.
I'm going to leave these things.
bobby lee
And the reason why that was the case, right?
unidentified
Oh, no, no, no.
joe rogan
I know.
bobby lee
It was because there was things going on.
joe rogan
Right.
Dude, it's just...
I'm as flaky as the next guy.
bobby lee
But the store...
Why don't you come back?
joe rogan
Come back where?
bobby lee
The store.
joe rogan
Oh, never.
Never.
I can't.
bobby lee
Why?
unidentified
Why?
joe rogan
Because I like the improv better.
And there's no negativity there.
The improv, everyone's super courteous.
The staff there are so friendly and thankful and kind.
For years you dealt with at the store, them pretending that the store was the star and you were lucky to work there.
You were lucky to help out.
No matter what you did, you could never do enough.
bobby lee
But there was an energy when you were there.
joe rogan
I bring it everywhere else.
bobby lee
I know, but I'm saying that I'm...
Because I used to either go up before or after you in the studio.
It was hard to go up after you, but sometimes they would put me up after you.
But there was still an energy in the OR, I swear to God, that's different than it is now.
Not that we don't get an audience, but it's a different kind of vibe.
joe rogan
Well, I was bringing my specific thoughts on comedy, my specific thoughts on life is let's have fun.
Let's not take things so fucking seriously.
Let's look at all this shit, but let's be nice to each other and let's have a good fucking time.
That's one of the reasons why whenever anything crazy would happen at the store, I would always make it a big point to buy everyone in the audience a drink.
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, remember when I kicked somebody out?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, I did that like a dozen times.
bobby lee
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
I would kick people out and then I would spend thousands of dollars buying 300 people drinks, you know?
bobby lee
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But that's why I wanted to spread that.
But why didn't you – why did you leave in the first place?
joe rogan
Because it's not Mitzi Shore's club anymore.
See, the whole thing that happened was when the Mencia shit went down, I called Mitzi, who's the owner of the club.
And Mitzi and I have had a relationship way back to 1994 when I first met her, when I first came to Hollywood.
And to me, she was the queen of comedy, man.
The comedy store was mecca to me.
To me, it was more important, and this is not bullshit, to get passed as a paid regular at the store than it was the fact that I was on a sitcom in California.
I was on a sitcom and I was like, acting sucks.
It's a lot of money.
I was making all this money, but I'm like...
I'm a fucking paid regular at the store.
Like, holy shit.
I couldn't believe I was there.
I mean, this is where Richard Pryor had started out and David Letterman was there and Kenison was there and all these hicks had worked there for a while.
So to me, it was like all this history.
So, I mean, not only had I worked there for free, for all those years where I was on Fear Factor, they put my name up on the marquee.
It would say, you know, Fear Factor's Joe Rogan.
Pack the place.
We would promote it on MySpace.
And to me, it was just...
It was a workout room.
I would get to fuck around and stay sharp, do a long set each Friday and Saturday night.
So when I would go on the road, I always had material.
I could still do specials and still do Fear Factor at the same time.
So it was a perfect situation for me.
And I could help the store.
I worked for free.
And as a matter of fact, even money that they owed me from years ago, I paid it back in the form of a tax-free donation.
And then I paid for the whole sound system in the place.
bobby lee
Yeah, you did.
joe rogan
I took out the speakers.
I put in a CD-R burner and a fucking DAT player and new microphones and new chords.
The whole deal, right?
And then when this whole thing happened with Mencia, which they knew for the longest time what he was doing.
Everybody knew what he was doing.
But they were making money off of it, so they turned a blind eye towards comedy.
And what I've always said was that if you're in the business, if you're an agent or if you're a manager or if you're a club owner, you're selling art.
That's what you're doing.
And when you've got one person who's stealing the art of the people that you're selling and then selling it again, that's what he's doing.
He's cannibalizing.
bobby lee
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
You have to put a foot down and stop that.
And if you don't, if you say crazy shit like, well, you know, it's business and he's making a lot of money, well, then you clearly are not on the side of the art form that you actually make your living selling.
bobby lee
Right.
joe rogan
So when all this shit went down, I called Mitzi up to let her know that, you know, Brian made this crazy fucking video and it's about to go out and it's ugly.
And I told her, I go, the guy's a problem.
We've had problems with him for years and we're going to put this video out.
She goes, okay, well, just keep away from him.
Just don't get crazy.
I'm crazy.
I go, Mitzi, I'm never going to hurt him.
I go, I'm not going to do anything crazy.
She goes, okay, do you want to go up tonight?
I go, yeah.
She goes, what time?
I go, whenever you want to put me up.
She goes, okay, 10 o'clock.
All right, thank you, Mitzi.
I love you.
I love you too.
That was the last word I ever spoke to her, okay?
I get off the phone with her.
Tommy calls me an hour later and tells me I'm banned.
bobby lee
Why?
joe rogan
So I go, what are you talking about?
I go, I just talked to Mitzi and hit this stuttering cocksucker.
Mitzi's confused.
Mitzi doesn't know the facts.
To me, it was very clear that there was some situation where Mitzi was no longer making the decisions.
No longer her club.
So there was some other people, whoever the fuck they are.
Tommy was at the mouthpiece of whoever the fuck was making the decision.
And clearly they had made a decision to go and have Mencia headline that weekend and make a big deal out of it.
And he was on the radio.
It was like for him to try to save face and then have me banned.
And so I said, I'm never coming back.
I'll tell you this right now.
This is it.
I'm never coming back.
And so that was years ago, and I've never come back.
But it was the best thing for me.
Because after I left there, and then I started working out at the improv, I'm like, God, it's so friendly here.
The vibe is so much better.
Everyone's happy there.
The managers are happy.
The comics are all...
It's like there's a cool bar area where everybody hangs out.
And then I started doing Sal's more recently.
And just...
You know what, man?
I just realized that there's comedy clubs out there that appreciate comics.
Those are the only people that you should hang out with.
I'm thankful for my time at the store.
I learned a lot there.
I learned a lot about hecklers and dealing bullshit, and I learned a lot about...
I just learned a lot about the business from this whole thing that happened, from getting fucked over.
So for me, it was...
It was the best thing.
bobby lee
Well, let me tell you something.
Tommy didn't go to anybody, by the way.
joe rogan
You think it was all him?
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah?
bobby lee
I mean, Tommy and I, whatever.
I mean, I'm a regular there.
I get spots anytime I want to.
And Tommy's a friend.
I've never called him off the job.
I call him for spots.
You know what I mean?
But I know that he makes decisions.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I'm sure he does, but not that one.
I don't believe that.
bobby lee
Or this happened.
He went to Mitzi and he...
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
He didn't go to Mitzi.
He didn't talk to her at all.
I know for a fact.
He talked to somebody else, whoever the fuck it was.
Whether it's Paulie or Peter or whoever the fuck is writing.
bobby lee
Maybe Peter.
joe rogan
Whoever the fuck it is.
It might have been Peter.
I don't know who it is.
I have no idea.
I don't know.
I didn't ask.
I didn't care.
bobby lee
And ever since then, have they called you?
joe rogan
No.
Oh, he sent me one ridiculous letter.
I saved it.
It's hilarious.
The most one-sided fucking letter ever.
Talking about, you know, don't destroy the store.
Build it up.
And like, you cunts.
I worked there for free for fucking years.
And they would always say, like, everybody works for free.
Not that.
Everybody doesn't do what I did.
Everybody doesn't put their name in the marquee and pump it up on MySpace and fill the place.
unidentified
La Jolla.
bobby lee
I'm going to tell you about La Jolla.
You know, I started in that room, right?
Yeah.
I go there six years ago.
I haven't played there in six years.
Six years ago, I call them, the La Jolla, I go, can I go up?
Because I'm going to go down and visit a friend.
They're like, yeah, sure.
So I drive down there.
I show up at the club and the manager goes, you can't go up.
In La Jolla.
And I go, why?
He goes, well, it's an all-girls show.
They're from LA and they don't want to put you up.
I go, who is it?
They go, Lisa Sunset.
People I've never even heard of.
So I just drove down here.
They said I could go up.
I'm from this class.
I fucking built that stage, literally.
Me and Freddy Soto, when they gutted the place, we hammered in nails and shit like that.
So fuck you, I'm going up.
You're not going up.
I go, I'll go up last.
unidentified
Right.
bobby lee
No.
I go, I'm up.
I'll never play her again.
Good for you.
He goes, fine.
I haven't played it since.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
You know, man, that's a totally different situation, and I totally see your side of it.
I totally do.
And the girls, if they really wanted to do their show and then have you go on last, have you go on afterwards, you know?
bobby lee
That's what I ask.
I go, I'll wait.
I don't give a fuck.
unidentified
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
Some people don't.
Some people don't like that, though.
They think that you're going to show them up.
bobby lee
There was 40 people there, Joe.
It wasn't like if it was sold out.
joe rogan
It doesn't matter to them.
Those 40 people were there to see them.
And if they do mediocre, they know you're going to crush.
And you go on after them.
bobby lee
Let me tell you something, dude.
It's like I'm from that room, right?
And I started...
Remember Fred Burns?
joe rogan
Sure.
bobby lee
Yeah, back when Fred was running it.
joe rogan
Did Fred die?
bobby lee
He died.
joe rogan
What happened?
bobby lee
You know, he had spinal bifida.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bobby lee
And his parents were still alive and they took him on a cruise, like a cruise to go to the Bahama.
I don't know where they went, right?
And they told Fred one night, they go, Fred, we'll meet you down here at 8 for breakfast.
And Fred Burns goes, all right.
And he never showed up to breakfast and they opened up his room and he was dead.
joe rogan
Well, just failure.
bobby lee
Yeah, failure.
joe rogan
Heart failure, body failure, whatever it was.
bobby lee
It was awful.
joe rogan
He was an interesting guy.
He got fired, right, for something?
bobby lee
No, nothing.
joe rogan
Nothing?
But the family's crazy, man.
I mean, look, I got no ill feelings for the store.
I think it's one of the most interesting clubs in the country, and I think I learned a lot doing stand-up there, but...
The whole point of the whole situation, the whole point of the whole Mencia altercation was supposedly to create a better environment to stop someone who was victimizing other comedians.
And when the club supports that, you can't support the club anymore.
If the club supports that, it wasn't a gray area.
Everybody knew what was going on.
Everybody complained for years and years.
So that decision, the decision they made was like the worst possible decision.
So there's no way I could go back there.
bobby lee
Yeah.
I mean, it just sucks the fact that, like, you know, like, Bill Burr will show up, and if Mencia's there, he won't go up.
You know what I mean?
Those little things, you know what I mean, that fuck up the...
You know, I love the store.
You know, it's like home.
joe rogan
You could go up right in front of Mencia now.
It doesn't matter now.
He's toothless.
Now he's just...
He's got no claws.
It's all over.
unidentified
It's...
bobby lee
I don't know.
You know, he's smoking pot.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
That'll probably help him.
brian redban
Yeah, I think I'll help him.
unidentified
Maybe.
bobby lee
But he's also drinking.
brian redban
Yeah, he's also drinking.
unidentified
He's just...
bobby lee
I can just tell he's sad.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bobby lee
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
Well, it's karma, man.
bobby lee
And as a friend...
joe rogan
You can't victimize people.
bobby lee
And as a friend, you know, you watch it and it's just...
brian redban
I always try to play Call of Duty with him on Xbox because I feel bad.
I always send him a friend.
joe rogan
You feel bad so you want to kill him?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You fuck up.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Listen, man, the positive aspects of working at the store were so true.
I know what you say.
bobby lee
I think you should just do it one night or something.
joe rogan
No, I can't do it.
unidentified
Please!
joe rogan
It'll never be the same again.
bobby lee
How do you know?
joe rogan
Because it'll never be what it used to be.
What it used to be was a lot of fun.
It used to be...
Look, there was a long time where I was at the store where the store felt like it did not have the environment that I envisioned.
I always envisioned it being, like I said, comedy mecca.
I always envisioned all these great comics are going to perform there and there's this great environment.
And then for a long time when I was there in the early 90s, it wasn't like that.
It was shit.
bobby lee
I'm going to defend it in a sense.
Since you left, it has changed in this sense.
We're getting a lot more New York guys on the list.
So you have Bill Burr, Davidoff, all these New York guys that have moved here.
brian redban
Sarah Silverman was there.
bobby lee
Yeah, and the lineups, like the other night, who was it?
Rock and Chappelle.
Did they go up?
But they showed up, right?
It's a different New York vibe.
And what I'm saying is this, okay?
From two years ago that you were there, Carlos never goes there.
joe rogan
It's not Carlos, man.
It's the people who run the club.
bobby lee
I know, it's Tommy.
joe rogan
Whoever's running the club is the same people running the club.
bobby lee
I know.
joe rogan
Tommy said some stupid shit to Brian just the other day when he went there, and he called me a fag.
Tommy's retarded.
He's a ding-dong.
That dude was always going to be what he is, you know?
bobby lee
I know.
joe rogan
What a comedy store is is an idea, okay?
The idea is that there's this mecca of comedy where everybody's hanging out, all this crazy people, like that back porch area, the back parking lot.
How much fucking fun did we have back there?
So much craziness and hilarity.
bobby lee
The greatest moments of my life have been back home.
joe rogan
Hilarious moments.
Everybody was doing something funny.
Joey Diaz has got his fucking pants down.
bobby lee
It was crazy.
joe rogan
There's always something.
It's just chaos.
There's always crazy people coming back there and hanging out with us.
You don't even know who the fuck they are.
Who's this guy?
This guy's nuts and he thinks he's an angel.
Yeah, the guy with the cross that walks down Sunset with his fucking cross.
bobby lee
And there was a guy that looked like Colonel Sanders.
Have you seen that guy?
brian redban
Yeah, that guy.
bobby lee
He dresses like Colonel Sanders.
brian redban
And Jesus and him together are always the best combo.
bobby lee
And they're getting an argument.
You're like, what are they fighting about?
joe rogan
The Lord or Chicken.
Who's crazier?
bobby lee
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
That place is awesome.
But the idea of what the comedy story is, you bring that everywhere with you, man.
I bring that everywhere on the road.
I bring that everywhere where I do stand-up.
Sal's is a perfect example.
Sal's Comedy Hole is this new place that opened up on Melrose.
It's a guy from New York.
He had a place on La Brea for a while, but they had a liquor license issue, and now he reopened a new place.
Fucking guy is great.
He's got open mics almost every night.
unidentified
Super.
joe rogan
Super supportive of comedians.
Just wants people to come down.
He's always trying to feed you, give you drinks.
And he's super consistently nice.
Just a nice guy who loves comedy.
And he's running.
He's trying to make a good comedy club.
And because of that, comics are flocking to this place.
Diaz does it all the time.
Ari does it.
Brian does it all the time.
brian redban
Tonight, his show will have at least 50, 60 comics wanting to go up at their 8 o'clock show tonight.
bobby lee
Really?
Do I have to showcase to become a regular?
unidentified
No!
joe rogan
Just show up.
Or I'll call him.
unidentified
Brian will call him.
joe rogan
You don't have to do anything.
And he'll just hook you up, man.
You go up and he'll give you a door deal.
You can pack the place.
It's super sweet.
bobby lee
That's why I just need a new room, maybe.
joe rogan
When you go to the improv and you go to places like Sal's, you realize, okay, well, there's places that don't have this crazy attitude that the place is the star.
You know, like Tommy always had this attitude that the store is the star.
And so did, remember, who's the guy who used to run it?
Scott Day.
You remember Scott Day?
bobby lee
I love Scott Day, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, and Duncan was the, people don't realize this, Duncan Trussell, our My boy was the talent manager for the store for the longest time.
And he had to quit because he didn't want to be on Pauly Shore's reality show.
They wanted to put it on the reality show.
brian redban
I don't remember that.
bobby lee
What the improv doesn't have, though, that the store has is that Wild West vibe.
joe rogan
You're right.
bobby lee
You know what I mean?
Because it's like you can't go over the light.
You know what I mean?
There's rules and this and that.
So you can't run across the place in my underwear if I want to.
You know what I mean?
But at the store, there's always still that vibe of like anything can happen.
You know what I mean?
So you miss that.
joe rogan
Yes, yes, I do miss that.
But that's everywhere that Joey Diaz is.
unidentified
When you bring Joey Diaz, that vibe comes with us on the road.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
So what I'm doing this weekend, by the way, Mandalay Bay Theater, it's almost sold out.
unidentified
Oh, that's great.
joe rogan
So if you're going to get tickets, jump on that shit now.
There's not that much left.
bobby lee
Don't plug my Houston.
I mean...
joe rogan
We will.
Totally.
It's Friday night, February 4th, which is the night before the UFC. And it's at Mandalay Bay, which is where the UFC is.
So it's going to be fucking crazy.
If you want tickets, you've got to jump on it now.
And it's Joey Diaz and Ari Shafir.
So it's the full Death Squad roster.
And Bobby Lee is going to be at the Houston Improv.
bobby lee
That weekend, too.
joe rogan
The same weekend.
February 4th and 5th and 6th?
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
Sunday, too?
bobby lee
Is it not this weekend?
Is it this weekend?
joe rogan
This weekend coming up.
bobby lee
No, the next weekend after that.
joe rogan
Oh, next weekend.
So what is that?
11th?
bobby lee
Something like that, yeah.
joe rogan
Let's find out exactly so people don't get crazy.
We don't want to...
unidentified
I came to see your show and you were not there, Bobby Lee!
joe rogan
You were my favorite!
You're a droid.
Did you just turn it on?
bobby lee
Yeah, sorry.
joe rogan
Are you happy with the droid?
bobby lee
You happy with that purchase?
brian redban
Check out this new camera.
joe rogan
What is that?
The 11th, 12th, and 13th, Bobby Lee.
Friday, Saturday, and Sunday?
bobby lee
And Valentine's, which is Monday.
joe rogan
Oh, bam!
You're doing Valentine's.
Valentine's Day in Houston, which by the way, I love Houston.
I'm coming back.
I fucking swear to God.
I know I haven't been there in forever.
We're trying to work out a deal.
The problem was, I don't want to do any shows where people have to stand up.
And I was doing the House of Blues, and the House of Blues, they wanted, I think it's like 600 people standing and 600 people seated.
bobby lee
No, yeah.
joe rogan
I'm like, that's crazy.
I did that in Vegas.
I've done it in Vegas a bunch of times.
And the problem, it becomes the bar just becomes filled with people talking.
There's way too many people there, and everyone's drunk, and no one knows how to fucking whisper, and it becomes chaos.
And so I went to see one of Doug Stanhope's shows where I had a stand, and I was like, no more standing.
Because I watched as an audience member.
I'm like, this isn't fun.
It hurts your feet.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I had a bunch of deals where I was supposed to do the Houston area, but every time we ran into this fucking standing roadblock at theaters, we ran into it.
So I'm just going to go to the comedy club.
So the improv, we're working it out.
We're going to figure that shit out.
So anyway...
One more time.
Friday night, February 4th, Mandalay Bay Theater, me, Joey Diaz, and Ari Shafir.
The next weekend, the 11th, 12th, and the 13th, and Valentine's Day, Bobby Lee will be at the Houston Improv.
It's a very nice club, too.
It's new.
bobby lee
It's brand new now.
joe rogan
It's sweet, right?
bobby lee
Yeah, they just redid it?
Yeah, they redid it, yeah.
joe rogan
Shakalaka, motherfucker.
So that's the deal.
And then the weekend after that, I'm at the Brea Improv.
That's the 18th, 19th, and 20th.
And we're going to get Brian really high and make him go on stage every night so big that he forgets his material.
That's one of my favorite new things to do.
You got his trial by fire, son.
You did good this weekend.
He did real good this weekend.
Seven minutes, you probably fucking killed for four.
You got a solid four minutes of bits in there.
You're doing all right, kid.
You're fucking out there hustling.
No, he just goes up and does a guest bar.
He's fucking getting tossed to the lions.
So that's the 18th, 19th, and 20th is the Brea Improv of February.
And then the weekend after that, I'm in fire.
You can go to JoeRogan.net and read all this shit yourself, bitches.
This Thursday, I'm trying to get Ari and Joey.
I'm not sure if I can.
If not, maybe Brian Callen or someone else.
But there'll definitely be a show on Thursday.
We're figuring out who the fuck's going to do it.
But Friday night is the show, so it'd be nice.
And then Thursday night, Ari has a show that I'm going to be on as well at the Improv.
That's his storyteller show.
So that's it.
bobby lee
It's a great show.
joe rogan
Bobby Lee, thank you very much for coming on the podcast.
You're the fucking shit.
You've been my friend for many, many years.
And I love you.
I'm happy you're here.
Thank you to The Fleshlight.
Go to JoeRogan.net.
Click on the link.
Enter in the code name ROGAN and you get 15% off your masturbatory utensil.
Alright, bitches.
You know I love you.
I'll see you in a couple days.
Thanks for all the support.
For everything.
For everything, you motherfuckers.
You make life a dream.
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