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Jan. 25, 2011 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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JRE MMA Show #74 with Brendan Schaub
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joe rogan
Do, do, do, do.
brendan schaub
No whiskey, bro.
joe rogan
Do you want some?
unidentified
Yeah, hell yeah.
joe rogan
Do you want a drink?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
Really?
brendan schaub
Why not, bro?
You've had a long day.
joe rogan
Okay, let's day drink.
brendan schaub
Yeah, let's get a little.
jamie vernon
I'll get it.
joe rogan
Okay.
brendan schaub
Why not?
jamie vernon
No, you guys talk.
unidentified
I'll get it.
joe rogan
Okay, Jamie's going to get the booze.
Look at that.
Jamie leaves the salon to get the booze.
Thank you, Jamie.
brendan schaub
Real pro.
joe rogan
Get some ice, too.
Beautiful.
So, a lot of fucking shit going on, man.
A lot of shit going on.
How about that Colby Covington fella, huh?
brendan schaub
Bro.
joe rogan
Dude, everybody better shut the fuck up now.
He's for real.
brendan schaub
He's for real.
joe rogan
Anybody who didn't think he was for real after that Robbie Lawler fight, you gotta go, wow.
brendan schaub
Well, the problem is, is he talks so much shit, which I find hilarious, and it's...
You're tuning in to watch him lose.
He's doing it right.
In all honesty, we like him because we're balls deep in UFC and MMA. But my brother, who's not that big of a fan, is like, this is all he does?
I know.
You've got to understand, though.
What he's doing to this guy is amazing.
And he's going to do it for five rounds for 25 minutes.
To me, it's fascinating.
joe rogan
It is fascinating.
brendan schaub
But it's not entertaining for a general fan, typically.
He's not knocking dudes out.
He's not a lot of submissions.
I see what you're saying.
You know what I'm saying?
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
So for the general fan, like, oh, and this guy talks all this shit, but he's doing it Because talking all that shit, you're like, dude, I want to see this guy get fucked up.
Even Jon Jones posted, you let everyone down.
You know, like, Robbie Lawler let everybody down.
You know what I'm saying?
Because he wants, everybody wants Colby to lose.
unidentified
Right.
brendan schaub
Colby's doing exactly, everyone's playing into his game plan.
I love it.
joe rogan
Well, that's how Floyd Mayweather became so rich.
Floyd Mayweather did not become so rich because his fights are so exciting.
His fights in his early career were way more exciting.
brendan schaub
He was a savage early on.
joe rogan
He could go forward.
But he broke his hands a bunch of times.
brendan schaub
Correct.
joe rogan
And also realized this is not the way to have a long career and walk out of it with all your brains intact.
brendan schaub
Well, think how good John Fitch was.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
brendan schaub
He was a monster.
joe rogan
Sure.
brendan schaub
Nice guy.
True professional.
Beat some of the very best.
Was tough to beat.
Didn't talk shit, though, so no one really cared.
So as soon as he had some issues, remember he was like, hey, I don't like the way my face looks in that video game.
UFC was like, cool, you're cut.
unidentified
Like, what the fuck?
brendan schaub
I'm 20-0, man.
joe rogan
Yeah, I think they cut him just because of...
But either one of those is good.
This is all we have in this room?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
We have a bunch of that Buffalo Trace.
Do we have Buffalo Trace in the back?
brendan schaub
I don't trust skinny bottles.
joe rogan
Yeah, it seems weird, right?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's for girls.
brendan schaub
I don't trust skinny girls or skinny bottles, bro.
joe rogan
Canadian whiskey and maple syrup.
brendan schaub
No, can't do maple.
I'm keto, bro.
joe rogan
Are you really?
brendan schaub
Straight keto.
joe rogan
Are you?
When did that happen?
brendan schaub
I sent you and Brian a text.
Your boy was up to 273. Dude, you got to 273?
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
What were you eating?
brendan schaub
Road life, Doug.
joe rogan
Road dog.
brendan schaub
Because when I get into towns and there's all this, you know, if you're in Nashville, you're in Philly, there's great food.
So I was just eating and drinking at night.
And no one said anything to me.
I hear you.
joe rogan
No one said anything?
brendan schaub
No, and then I remember I went to Hawaii.
I went to Hawaii.
I was looking at the other dads.
I'm like, damn, these dads are in shape.
I look like shit.
And my girl's like, no, you look fine.
Everyone's lying, man.
Like, on the scale, it's not fine.
Your boy's been keto for 14 days.
joe rogan
I feel great.
14 days.
brendan schaub
14 days.
unidentified
Strict, bro.
joe rogan
This is going to knock you out of keto anyway, though.
This is whiskey.
brendan schaub
There's no sugar in whiskey.
joe rogan
There's not?
brendan schaub
Nope.
joe rogan
It's alcohol.
brendan schaub
But there's no sugar in it.
joe rogan
But alcohol doesn't convert to...
Cheers, my brother.
brendan schaub
Cheers, brother.
Good to see you, man.
joe rogan
Good to see you, too.
Alcohol doesn't convert into sugar?
brendan schaub
I don't think so.
Especially whiskey.
Because whiskey and vodka are safe on ketogenic diet.
unidentified
Oh.
What?
brendan schaub
Yeah, it's two in the afternoon, bro.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Two in the afternoon.
brendan schaub
Bonafide alcoholic now.
joe rogan
Day drinking.
brendan schaub
I'm like a super shitty rum light.
joe rogan
It's fun to drink a little bit before a show, right?
brendan schaub
Nothing better, man.
You started me on it.
I'm like, I feel good up here.
I'm messing around.
joe rogan
Yeah, you get loose.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
You don't want to be tight.
Definitely don't want to be tight.
brendan schaub
No, you don't want to drink your problem either.
joe rogan
The Colby Covington thing.
Look, what he did, if you want to put it in perspective for a regular person, Robbie Lawler is one of the biggest fucking savages to ever compete in a sport.
He's an animal.
And Kobe shut him down.
He shut everything down.
He shut his entire game down.
And he did it with an unprecedented work rate.
He was punching one punch every two seconds.
brendan schaub
Nuts.
joe rogan
Which is nuts.
I mean, to do that over five fucking rounds against one of the greatest welterweights of all time, Robbie Lawler, and win every single fucking round.
brendan schaub
Some 10-8 rounds, I thought.
unidentified
Yeah, for sure.
brendan schaub
I was like, oh, this isn't even close.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, not even close.
I mean, Robbie occasionally would swing and connect, and then Kobe would immediately hit him three or four times more, and then take him down, or clinch with him, and beat him up, and it was amazing.
brendan schaub
Kobe striking's not terrible either.
joe rogan
It's very good.
brendan schaub
He looked pretty damn I'm good.
joe rogan
It's very technical, and the volume is incredible.
brendan schaub
But here's my thing.
If I'm fighting Colby, like if I'm Carmelo Usman, if I'm fighting Colby, I'm getting a guy like Cam Haynes.
If I see my opponent running with Cam Haynes, I'm reaching out to another ultra-marathoner, figuring it out.
joe rogan
Well, Camaro can't run.
brendan schaub
That's right.
He can't do road work.
joe rogan
His knees are fucked up.
Yes.
Oh yeah, it's not getting any better.
His knees are mangled.
brendan schaub
But he's doing something, right?
joe rogan
Well, his cardio is off the charts too, but it's just, he does different things.
You can do a lot of different things to work your cardio.
brendan schaub
Swimming and stuff?
joe rogan
Sure.
Swimming, you can do a lot of- The row.
Yeah, the assault bike, that echo bike that Rogue makes, that is as good as fucking anything.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
brendan schaub
Dude, that peloton, I feel like it's lying to me.
I work out every morning on that thing.
I've never been thicker.
joe rogan
Yeah, but you're eating like an animal.
brendan schaub
Still, it says I burned a thousand calories.
joe rogan
You probably ate four thousand.
brendan schaub
Dude, I don't think so, man.
joe rogan
I see those food truck diaries.
You need to stop lying.
brendan schaub
Dude, no.
joe rogan
Those food truck diaries.
You're going hard in those food truck diaries.
brendan schaub
And I'm the only one eating, if you notice.
joe rogan
Yeah, because the guest is talking.
So, tell me how you guys started.
unidentified
Stop.
joe rogan
Lobster fucking sandwiches and shit.
brendan schaub
Pizza non-stop.
Yeah, no shit, Brandon, you're 270. Yeah, that's what happens, man.
I can't fight at heavyweight right now, man.
joe rogan
That's what happens.
brendan schaub
It's real hard.
But if I'm Camaro, obviously cardio's not a problem for him, but man, Colby, have you ever seen him tired?
Ever?
joe rogan
No, no.
I mean, he had that one loss in the UFC, but that was particularly because he came into the fight injured, took the fight on short notice.
But he's got an amazing style.
That style of wrestling and striking.
As a person who's fascinated by tactics, his tactics are incredible.
Because he's got great discipline.
He never bites down his mouthpiece and throws as hard as he can.
Never.
Everything is calculated.
The output is all the same.
It's just constant, constant.
unidentified
Bang, bang, bang, kick, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang.
brendan schaub
He doesn't even really fire power shots.
He's like, oh, no, this is a marathon.
I'm going to wear your ass out.
joe rogan
It's all the same pace.
He's just constantly hitting you, constantly moving forward, constant volume.
And it seemed like Robbie was waiting for him to pause in front of him.
brendan schaub
Or get a little tired so he could fire shots off.
joe rogan
And the bobbin and weaving that Robbie was doing, like, what was all that about?
brendan schaub
He had to be tired.
joe rogan
I mean, I guess so.
brendan schaub
Doing all that bobbin and weaving, like, tiresome.
I was like, damn.
joe rogan
That's rough on the core.
brendan schaub
Yeah, man.
joe rogan
That's rough on the core.
Try bobbin and weaving for a minute.
If you're at home, just try doing this for a minute.
Just a minute.
Just a minute.
brendan schaub
You're going to get real tired.
joe rogan
And Robbie's just trying to avoid getting beat up.
I mean, those punches just keep coming.
They never end.
brendan schaub
And what's funny too about Colby, is love him or hate him, is he doubles down because he got on the mic and his line about Matt Hughes.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
brendan schaub
Dude, I was watching in, where was I? Oh, Nashville.
I was watching in the room with Derek Post and Ahsan Ahmad, my openers.
And when they said that, they were aware of Matt Hughes and they go, that's ridiculous.
I'm like...
That's fantastic.
It's A, because it is messed up, but that's his character, man.
He's a heel, and he just doubled down so hard.
joe rogan
So hard.
brendan schaub
Because Matt Hughes is really close to Robbie Lawler, and he said, what he said for those that didn't watch the fight, he goes, you think Robbie Lawler would take a lesson from his boy Matt Hughes and get off the train tracks when a train is coming?
unidentified
Boom!
Boom!
joe rogan
He's just saying the most controversial, ruthless shit that he could say.
brendan schaub
And here's what else.
So we're impressed by his tactics, right?
You know what's even more impressive as a former fighter?
It's stressful enough fighting another grown man in your underwear and steel cage, especially when they're really good.
It's fucking stressful.
Now imagine talking all that shit.
Shit.
And you gotta deal with the consequences.
People hate you.
And he's a good dude.
Talk to Cam Haynes.
joe rogan
He's a different guy.
brendan schaub
Great guy.
So he's a normal dude outside, but he has to deal with all that pressure and still perform, then get on the mic.
I wonder if he's ever just in bed just like...
Damn, dude.
joe rogan
Let me tell you something.
brendan schaub
These death threats are getting real old.
joe rogan
After that fight, he has a real shot at being a world champion.
A real shot.
I know he was already the interim world champion.
brendan schaub
Those don't count though, do they?
joe rogan
After that fight, they don't count.
No.
Well, you know how you know they don't count?
They stripped him and he didn't even lose.
brendan schaub
Yeah, it doesn't matter.
joe rogan
How does that make any sense?
They stripped him because he didn't want to fight again quickly after a five-round fucking war with RDA. And he needed surgery.
Yeah, it's crazy.
brendan schaub
But also they don't count either because your contract doesn't, you don't get, when you're a champ, your contract, you get bumped up to higher pay.
Interim champs don't get bumped up.
joe rogan
Right.
What was the surgery for?
brendan schaub
It was something I feel like in his face.
joe rogan
Oh, like a sinus?
brendan schaub
Yeah, something major.
joe rogan
Yeah, something like a deviated septum.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's a phenomenal fighter.
brendan schaub
But now think about this.
You take his style, he doesn't go backwards.
Wrestling, cardio.
Kamaru Usman doesn't go backwards.
Wrestling, cardio.
The only thing I see, I would imagine Kamaru's going to be a slight favorite because of his power.
The one kind of distinguishing kind of factor is Kamaru has a lot more power.
joe rogan
Right.
Kamaru...
brendan schaub
Where he can knock you out.
Kamaru's a knockout artist.
joe rogan
Right.
Kamaru can knock people out, though.
brendan schaub
It's not his trait.
It's not what he does.
joe rogan
He probably can knock people out, too, but his approach is to throw everything at like 50-60%.
brendan schaub
He was slaying some early in that first round against Robbie.
They were exchanging.
If he would have connected, it could have been trouble for either guy.
joe rogan
For either guy.
He was getting Robbie's respect.
And I think that was the strategy that you kind of have to wade through the fire with Robbie in the beginning because he's coming hard.
He's coming.
He's coming hard.
brendan schaub
Now here's the question for you is...
What's more impressive, what Colby did to Robbie Lawler or what Kamaru Usman did to Tyrone Woodley?
joe rogan
It's a very good question.
Well, obviously Tyrone Woodley was the champion and Robbie Lawler was several years removed from the title.
So you have to look at it that way, right?
Tyrone took the title from Robbie with a one-punch knockout.
And Robbie's had some...
Some losses since then.
brendan schaub
Some wars, dude.
joe rogan
Yeah, some wars since then.
The Ben Askren fight in particular.
brendan schaub
Kamaru beat Woodley when he was fucking Woodley.
joe rogan
Yes, yes.
But, according to many people, Woodley was injured going into that fight.
He's had some pretty significant problems with his hands.
brendan schaub
Something was up with him.
joe rogan
Yes.
brendan schaub
He just seemed off.
joe rogan
And he's also, I mean, I don't know how much of a factor this is, but he also released a record with Wiz Khalifa.
He was rapping.
brendan schaub
He had his TMZ show.
joe rogan
He was doing a lot.
And I love the fact that he's doing that because Tyron Woodley's a smart man.
He realizes he's in his 30s, and how much more time does he have as an athletic career?
brendan schaub
Oh, he's very talented in all aspects.
joe rogan
Very talented, very smart.
And his rapping's good, man.
I listen to his shit.
brendan schaub
I didn't mind it either.
It's fucking good.
He's good.
joe rogan
It's not cringy at all.
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
It's fucking good.
You could see him being a successful rapper.
100%.
brendan schaub
He'll be successful in whatever he does after fighting.
joe rogan
Anything he does.
Anything he does.
He's smart.
He's ambitious.
brendan schaub
He's been in a thousand movies.
joe rogan
He grinds.
He's a fucking hard-working man.
brendan schaub
Great guy.
joe rogan
But he wants that title back, right?
So he's on the grind right now to try to get that title back.
And...
The beating that Usman put on him was fucking sensational.
brendan schaub
One of the most impressive performances.
joe rogan
Sensational.
brendan schaub
If Woodley had one arm or whatever.
But I didn't know that going in.
Just seeing what he did to Woodley.
joe rogan
You shot him down.
brendan schaub
I couldn't believe it.
joe rogan
Yeah, I couldn't believe it either.
brendan schaub
He looked like he broke him.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Which was crazy because even Woodley in the corner.
He didn't.
And I don't know if you had Woodley on since.
unidentified
No.
brendan schaub
He just didn't look like he was there.
Like he wasn't present.
Like it didn't look like your normal world champion Woodley.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Is Woodley scheduled for a fight right now?
brendan schaub
I don't think so.
I think he's trying to heal up.
joe rogan
He was supposed to fight Robbie again.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
But here's the other thing.
Remember Woodley had that whole kind of back and forth with Dana and all that?
I forget who he told this to, but they asked him if you could do it all over again with the way you handled the UFC, would you do it?
And he goes, it was exhausting.
I wouldn't do that again.
joe rogan
What was exhausting?
brendan schaub
Fighting with the UFC. Remember, he was anti-Dana.
It never works out for anyone, does it?
joe rogan
Well, I get their perspective that they want respect and they want to be treated like a champion.
I felt like my personal feeling was that he wasn't being represented correctly in terms of the way they were talking about his fights.
brendan schaub
100%.
joe rogan
I felt like he was fighting, especially me as a fan of tactics, like he was fighting Wonderboy for two fights, and Wonderboy's the most difficult guy in the fucking sport to look good against.
He's so difficult to look good against.
brendan schaub
But the first fight was amazing.
joe rogan
It was great.
Great fight.
Again, he was the one who was doing the damage.
Wonderboy is one of the best strikers to ever fight in MMA.
He knocked Wonderboy down.
He had Wonderboy hurt.
Wonderboy never had him hurt, but he fought an intelligent fight to deal with the tactics that Wonderboy provides.
You can't chase Wonderboy.
You can't go after him.
He will fucking catch you with a counter-strike.
So what he did is he made Wonderboy lead.
He waited for his openings.
He stayed patient.
It wasn't a lot of action, but when he delivered, he opened up.
He landed a fucking haymaker In the first fight Had him really badly hurt.
He did the same thing in the second fight.
Had him really badly hurt in a couple spots.
brendan schaub
He's also one of the most active champions.
joe rogan
But you've got to be able to say that.
If you're a fan of the sport, what I would say, if I was in Dana White's shoes and I was talking about that fight, I would say, if you're a fan of the sport, you've got to understand that That there are certain fighters where it's very difficult to look good against.
I understand that if you're a fan and you want blood and you want chaos, it didn't really quite live up to your expectations.
But that's not what this sport is all about.
What this sport is all about is two incredibly talented and well-trained killers.
And they're going after each other and they're both trying to figure out the openings to win.
And Tyron was able to win.
And he was able to win against one of the most difficult guys in the division ever.
But they didn't do that, did they?
No, they didn't.
But there's going to be guys where he looks amazing against, like fucking Darren Till.
He shut Darren Till down!
brendan schaub
That's a shame to me.
The Darren Till story right now, and his story's not over, he's a young kid, but the way he was handled, and I know they've exploded guys in the spotlight and it does work out, and that is professional sports, that's UFC. With Darren Till, you look at...
All the talent that he had, and it's just...
joe rogan
He's still got talent.
brendan schaub
Oh, no.
He's going to be fine.
joe rogan
He's so big.
brendan schaub
It's fucking tough, man.
joe rogan
I think he's cutting way too much weight to make 170. I really do.
I mean, that kid, you stand next to him, he looks like a light heavyweight.
brendan schaub
I've always been the guy who goes, man, guys should go up weight classes.
And now, when Max Holloway went to 55 against Dustin Poirier, it was a good fight, but looks way better at 45. Well, wait about Dustin Poirier.
joe rogan
But Dustin Poirier going to 155 made his career.
He was 145, he was struggling, goes to 55, makes his career.
brendan schaub
I know.
joe rogan
I mean, now he's the interim champ.
brendan schaub
Dos Anjos at 70, there's a bunch of cases for it.
joe rogan
Well, Dos Anjos at 70, though, has not won the title.
brendan schaub
But he started off hot as fuck, and then he's running some problems.
joe rogan
He's also older, though.
Yeah, he's older.
He's running a lot of really tough guys.
brendan schaub
But like Rockhold from 85 to 205, I was shouting from the rooftops, this is the guy that maybe can compete with John Jones, and then he got in there and just looks slow, lethargic, just a different game.
joe rogan
He didn't look good.
brendan schaub
Like, Weidman, I think, is going to be great at 205. But Jan Blachowicz looked great.
joe rogan
You've got to think about this was like a showcase fight for him.
And he's a big, fucking strong guy.
And when he clipped him with that left hook and knocked him out.
brendan schaub
For sure.
I mean, Luke didn't look like himself.
He looked slower, hesitant.
He's had injuries.
He's a model, bro.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's a model.
brendan schaub
Like, real model, yeah.
joe rogan
But he's spraying, like, perfume on him in commercials.
Like, what are you doing?
unidentified
No.
brendan schaub
Making bank, bro.
joe rogan
I guess.
brendan schaub
And busting nuts.
joe rogan
I guess so.
brendan schaub
Making bank and busting nuts.
That's what he's doing, Joe.
joe rogan
But right now he's drinking through a straw.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I know.
He's eating all his food.
Don't fight.
joe rogan
With his jaw wired shut.
brendan schaub
Spray cologne and bust nuts.
joe rogan
Well, it might be what he's doing from now on.
brendan schaub
I think it is.
joe rogan
But when you're a world champion, in the back of his head, it's probably that feeling of being a world champion.
When he beat Chris Weidman, probably the greatest feeling of his life.
But he's also had real problems with that shin.
They let him fight with that shin sleeve on.
brendan schaub
And he was kicking with it and shit?
joe rogan
I know.
For people who don't know what we're talking about, he had a massive staph infection.
brendan schaub
Horrible.
joe rogan
And he had to get skin grafts on his shin, and it's still fucked up.
brendan schaub
Here's the thing about Luke, though.
I love Luke, and he knows this.
He's a friend of mine.
But he's had a great, long-ass career, man.
To me, that's not a sad story.
If Darren Till doesn't become champion, that's a sad story.
Luke Rockhold's been a world champion at Strikeforce and the UFC. Dude, he's beat some of the very best guys in the world.
He's a dime piece.
He's fine.
He's made his legacy.
So, to me, the shame is a guy like Darren Till if he doesn't bounce back.
joe rogan
Yeah, maybe, but I think Luke Rockhold really believes that he could get back into the kind of form that he was in when he was world champion.
I just don't think he could ever make 185 again, and 205 is a different animal.
There are enormous men that are dropping down to 205. And he looked...
Like he was carrying weight.
brendan schaub
He was jacked.
joe rogan
He was huge.
He looked slow.
brendan schaub
Yeah, he looked real slow, lethargic.
joe rogan
In comparison to how he looked.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I agree.
joe rogan
You've got to think, you've got 20 extra pounds on you.
brendan schaub
But that's what he walks around at.
You know what I'm saying?
He walks around at that weight.
joe rogan
I think he might have put weight on, too, and to cut down a 205 so he could be a big 205. And that might have been part of the problem.
brendan schaub
205's kind of popping these days.
It was a little sad.
It was Struggle City about a year ago.
joe rogan
A lot of killers.
A lot of killers.
But no one that is a real promising threat to Jon Jones.
Santos put on a fucking show.
brendan schaub
And blew out with one leg.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And I knew his leg was blew out early on.
brendan schaub
I didn't.
And then when they told me he tore his ACL, MCL, everything, I was like, and he still competed like that?
joe rogan
I could tell early in the first.
He threw something early in the first.
You could see his leg go.
brendan schaub
You said something about it, right?
joe rogan
I remember that.
brendan schaub
Although I will say this, Santos is bad as fuck, and then before that, Anthony Smith, both amazing fighters.
John's getting a little older.
John's getting a little older, and I think there's a guy, and I think John's the greatest of all time, hands down, no argument.
But I think there's starting to be a little chink in his armor, maybe.
joe rogan
You think so?
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Well, with Santos, there was some...
joe rogan
Santos is a fucking savage, man.
brendan schaub
Santos is a savage for sure.
joe rogan
And John fought him stand-up for some strange reason.
I was surprised, especially with Santos' fucked-up leg, that John didn't take him down.
brendan schaub
That performance didn't blow me away by John, by no means.
And Santos had one leg.
joe rogan
I didn't understand that performance.
brendan schaub
I don't know why you didn't take him down.
joe rogan
Right.
I felt like John is one of the best wrestlers in the fucking sport.
He took down Daniel Cormier.
brendan schaub
He submitted fucking Leo Machida.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
I mean, Vitor Belfort.
joe rogan
Rampage Jackson.
brendan schaub
Ryan Bader.
He's amazing.
joe rogan
Yeah, he could take him down.
brendan schaub
I wonder what was going on there.
joe rogan
And the guy's got one knee.
I mean, you can't even walk right.
brendan schaub
The game plan was very strange.
But I saw that and went, well, and here's where I was thinking with that is, will John go undefeated?
Probably.
I bet a good amount of money on that.
But there's a guy like, I don't think you can sit on the outside and beat John.
Like a Reyes, like a guy who's super technical and long, you're not going to outsmart John on the outside.
It's not happening.
I think it's going to come from a guy like Johnny Walker who throws like a spinning heel kick and catches John.
joe rogan
Johnny Walker's fighting someone good.
Who's he fighting?
brendan schaub
He's fighting your boy who was just on, the wrestler, the black dude.
joe rogan
Oh, Corey Anderson.
brendan schaub
Corey Anderson.
They were talking shit to each other.
unidentified
That's a good fight.
brendan schaub
That's in New York.
joe rogan
Ooh, that's a good fight.
Corey has crazy cardio.
brendan schaub
That's a great fight.
unidentified
Crazy cardio.
brendan schaub
Let's see if Johnny Walker's there.
Because if you beat Corey Anderson, you're ready to go.
You beat him, we're going Sizzler.
joe rogan
Yes, yes.
Or if Corey beats him, he's going Sizzler.
brendan schaub
Corey's already there.
Corey's already an elite guy.
joe rogan
Well, he is an elite guy, but he's not being talked about in terms of a title shot.
unidentified
Because of his style.
joe rogan
And that's very frustrating to him.
Yeah, but that style is fucking hard to handle, man.
brendan schaub
That's It doesn't matter.
They're not in the business of that.
joe rogan
But look at Kobe Covington.
It's a similar style.
Just constant pressure.
brendan schaub
Yeah, you're right.
unidentified
But he talks a lot of shit Kobe did to get there.
joe rogan
Well, Corey's a really nice guy.
brendan schaub
Nice guys finish last, don't they?
Bullshit.
joe rogan
Sometimes they win.
brendan schaub
Really?
joe rogan
Yes.
brendan schaub
He can fucking win.
No, he can win for sure.
It's going to take a lot of work, though, to get there.
Let's say you have a guy who's like Conor McGregor.
He's going to...
Catapult to the front before a guy who's super nice.
joe rogan
You're talking about good personality.
Yes.
brendan schaub
Catapult.
The UFCs can go, rocket ship, go.
joe rogan
Isn't that crazy, though, that that's part of the sport?
Part of the sport is how much money can you generate because it's not just about how well you perform as a fighter.
It's about how many people are interested in you fighting.
brendan schaub
It's crazy.
joe rogan
It's crazy.
brendan schaub
But that's the nature of the beast, isn't it?
joe rogan
Well, that's why I hope that having a guy like Corey on my podcast or you having him on your podcast lets people know what a great guy this is.
Like, this is a guy to root for.
He's a great guy.
brendan schaub
I agree.
joe rogan
And he can fight his fucking ass off.
brendan schaub
I agree.
But the casuals don't, for whatever reason, they don't gravitate towards it.
joe rogan
Well, if he wins, they will.
brendan schaub
Well, you just got to become undeniable, which he's slowly getting there.
joe rogan
Yes, he's slowly getting there.
And he's got one of the best trainers in the fucking world.
Mark Henry is the shit.
brendan schaub
The best.
joe rogan
And his camp is fucking fantastic.
It's got Marlon and Frankie.
brendan schaub
He'll get a title shot.
joe rogan
Yeah, I think so too.
brendan schaub
You know who's another nice guy?
joe rogan
Bring a fucking lunch.
You better pack a lunch if you're fighting Corey.
brendan schaub
But here's where nice guys don't finish last.
If the guy they're fighting is down to play the game via DC John Jones.
DC's as nice as they come.
Doesn't talk shit.
Him versus Stipe, especially the first fight.
But that sells just off their talents.
But if you can get a guy like Jose Aldo, Conor McGregor.
Jose's nice as they come.
And you get this fucking Irish tidal wave.
And everyone's like, I'll watch that.
And then Jose Aldo, even though he's one of the greatest...
Of all time, at 45, everyone tuned in, and then he kind of took a lot of fans with him.
Even though he lost, he was this huge star.
That could happen for Corey with Jon Jones.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Although Jon Jones doesn't really talk shit.
He's just a bad guy outside.
joe rogan
He'll talk shit to DC, though.
brendan schaub
Him and DC hate each other.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's interesting.
brendan schaub
Dude, Jon Jones, DC for the heavyweight title?
joe rogan
I think that's the future.
brendan schaub
You do?
joe rogan
If Stipe wins in this fight that's next weekend, I think that Stipe fights Jon Jones as heavyweight and Jon Jones moves up to heavyweight and tries to win the title.
And then DC fights Jon Jones for the heavyweight title when Jon's the champion.
If John can beat Stipe.
Or, if Stipe can beat DC, and then Stipe can beat John Jones, depending on how the fight goes.
Look, the bottom line is, DC knocked Stipe senseless.
One round.
Knocked him out cold.
For the title.
brendan schaub
It wasn't a dominating fight.
joe rogan
Doesn't matter.
brendan schaub
He did knock him out.
joe rogan
Doesn't matter.
unidentified
Boom!
joe rogan
Out goes the lights.
unidentified
He's the champ.
I'm with you.
joe rogan
100% champ.
brendan schaub
I'm not cold.
joe rogan
If he can beat him again, man, and say, John Jones!
brendan schaub
He's going too smart.
Get your shit together!
unidentified
Yeah!
joe rogan
If he does that?
God damn.
brendan schaub
Biggest fight in UFC history?
joe rogan
Yes.
brendan schaub
At heavyweight?
joe rogan
It would be enormous.
What is this?
Pound for pound, Daniel Cormier.
Number two, Khabib.
Number three, Jon Jones.
brendan schaub
Come on.
joe rogan
Settle down, folks.
Settle down, whoever's doing that.
brendan schaub
Come on.
joe rogan
But also, they fought.
Jon Jones beat him twice.
He's undefeated.
He's beaten every fucking human being he's ever competed against in real life.
Okay?
Every single one.
There's one loss in his career.
It's a nonsense loss they're trying to reverse.
I 100% support reversing that loss.
unidentified
100%.
joe rogan
At the very least, make it a no contest.
John dominated that fight, smashed him.
There's no fucking way that's a loss.
brendan schaub
If I was the UFC, I'd just mark it as he's undefeated.
unidentified
Yes.
brendan schaub
I wouldn't even acknowledge that.
joe rogan
He's undefeated.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I wouldn't even acknowledge that.
joe rogan
Fuck your athletic commissions.
brendan schaub
Ask Matt Hamill how his night went.
joe rogan
Watch the fight.
brendan schaub
Did you see Matt Hamill talk shit to John?
joe rogan
He's talking shit.
Let's have a rematch.
Like, what?
Are you crazy?
brendan schaub
Bro.
You want to lose your fucking vision, too?
unidentified
Dude, what are you doing?
Dude, just.
brendan schaub
I'm going to get some shit for that.
joe rogan
Just stop all that.
unidentified
Hey, dude.
brendan schaub
Hamill, be cool, though.
You don't think?
joe rogan
Just be cool.
brendan schaub
Even John went, come on, bro.
He was even mean to him.
John just goes, come on, bro.
unidentified
I'm never fighting you.
joe rogan
There's not even a conversation about who's the light heavyweight goat.
There's no conversation.
brendan schaub
No, what are we talking about?
No, John, any time you talk pound for pound, John's clearly even that.
joe rogan
The only one who was challenging for pound for pound was Mighty Mouse.
And Mighty Mouse, you know, the caveat was that he never beat anybody like John Jones beat.
It wasn't the same caliber of fighter.
It wasn't a DC. And then when he lost to Henry Cejudo, he'd go out.
And by the way, super close fucking decision loss.
brendan schaub
Very close.
joe rogan
Could have gone either way.
brendan schaub
Yeah, very close.
joe rogan
Could have gone to Mighty Mouse.
But loss is a loss.
Loss is a loss.
It's like, I see Demetrius Johnson and John Jones as being an argument for number one.
But after that, there's no argument.
And especially in light heavyweight, there's no argument.
It's John Jones.
Everybody else can go pound sand.
There's no one even close.
brendan schaub
I think John goes to heavyweight, everybody's fucked, too.
Although, him versus DC at heavyweight is so much more interesting than light heavyweight, because DC knocks dudes out, man.
joe rogan
Right, and John Jones, if he goes up, who knows if he will have the same cardio, who knows if he'll be as fast.
There's something about guys going up.
Like, look, Luke Rockhold, same story.
He goes up to light heavyweight, and he's got all this extra bulk on him now.
brendan schaub
See, I don't think John's going to go up to like 240. I think he's going to come in at a fucking lean, mean 225, 230. Doesn't cut any weight.
That's what he trains at anyways.
joe rogan
I hope so.
brendan schaub
And he just fucking does work.
joe rogan
Yeah, maybe he just comes in and looks just like John Jones at light heavyweight.
He just doesn't cut any weight.
brendan schaub
And that's all, I mean, I don't know about now, but especially back in the day when I was at Jackson's, all he really did is go with heavyweights and ragdoll them.
joe rogan
Ragdoll them.
I'll tell you what, when he fought OSP, I talked to Jackson afterwards, and Greg was saying, I don't like the fact that he's been doing all this powerlifting.
And he goes, and I feel like that played a part in this fight.
brendan schaub
He got so jacked.
joe rogan
He did get giant.
But I didn't think that.
I felt that it was OSP. I feel like OSP rose to the occasion.
He's a dangerous guy.
He's a super athletic guy.
He's big.
He's got a powerful left kick.
And he's an awkward fighter.
OSP fights awkward.
And you fuck up and he catches you with a left hook.
brendan schaub
Southpaw explosive.
Impossible to take down typically.
joe rogan
He's a fucking strong guy, man.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I don't know.
Maybe we're just not giving these guys enough credit because I think because we think so high of John, whenever it's close, I'm like, ah, John had an off night.
Or maybe these guys are really fucking good.
joe rogan
I think OSP rose to the occasion.
I have a lot of respect for OSP. When I look at that fight, I think OSP fought a great fight.
And he fought with a fucking broken arm.
Okay?
He fought the entire last round with a broken arm and never even said a thing about it.
He was fighting with a fucking broken forearm.
brendan schaub
He's a beast, man.
joe rogan
He's a beast.
And that's why I think John didn't look so good in that fight.
I disagree that he didn't look good because of the weightlifting, but I don't know him the way Greg Jackson knows him.
brendan schaub
Here's the only caveat to that, and I don't want to open this can of worms.
That was also the first time he's been under strict testing.
That's what the naysayers would say.
Well, that is the first time maybe little Pico wasn't around.
joe rogan
I don't know.
brendan schaub
Here's my defense of that, being a Jon Jones dick sucker.
You can fucking fill up anyone who he fights on whatever PDs you want, he's still beating them.
Whatever he's doing, whether he's taking things or not, you could give his freaking opponents...
As much as they want to, they're not beating him.
joe rogan
That's a tough argument, though.
You think?
Yeah, I don't know if that's necessarily true.
You fill up Tiago Santos full of fucking Anadrol 50, he might run right through John Jones.
brendan schaub
Talking about that Brazilian acai.
Yeah, you might be right.
He might kick his head off.
joe rogan
He might throw some fucking haymakers.
brendan schaub
That Vitor Belfort spinning kick.
joe rogan
Who knows, man?
brendan schaub
I still think John, he's too smart, too technical.
joe rogan
I don't know.
brendan schaub
I don't either.
And we don't have to know.
joe rogan
We don't have to know.
brendan schaub
Because that testing is strict.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I think I legitimately believe that what he got was through tainted means, and I don't even know if it was supplements.
You know, the big theory was that he got cocaine that was laced with creatine.
I hope that's the problem.
Because cocaine gets cut with creatine.
Apparently, according to someone who I know who really knows their shit, it was...
This is an expert.
He said, this is very common, that when you buy cheap creatine, cheap creatine often has other shit in it because you're buying it from China and from other places that have unscrupulous mixing.
Listen, as one of the owners of Onnit, I know that we never had our stuff test positive for steroids, but what we did have is when we looked at the early batches of AlphaBrain, we had it independently tested.
When Aubrey and I first Opened on it.
We didn't know what the fuck we were doing in terms of we hadn't run a supplement company before and there was a lot of learning to do.
And one of the things that we learned was that when you're buying stuff and then you're having stuff mixed, the people that are mixing it, if you don't get the very best people, you're getting people that mix stuff that don't clean out their vats.
brendan schaub
So you might get Winstraw in there?
joe rogan
You can get anything in there.
brendan schaub
That's not shit I want.
joe rogan
We never got steroids in ours, but probably because the stuff we're buying is nootropics, which are just...
Nutrients that enhance brain function.
So the people that were selling stuff were selling similar things, vitamins and the like.
But we did get our stuff tainted, in a sense, with other nutrients that weren't supposed to be in there.
So then we had to do some investigation and then we figured out what the problem was and we adjusted our methods and we changed the people we work with and we did a lot of different things.
But if you're buying cheap creatine That's what coke dealers use.
brendan schaub
Joe, why is he buying cheap creatine?
Are you saying the coke from a shady dude?
joe rogan
Yeah, he's buying New Mexico coke.
I'm not saying he is.
brendan schaub
You're a millionaire, dude.
joe rogan
Listen, I've smoked some weed from some fucking shady people.
brendan schaub
Preach.
joe rogan
And I'm a millionaire, too.
brendan schaub
Preach.
joe rogan
People bring me some weed.
If they're my friend, I'm like, alright, bro.
Smoke some weed.
brendan schaub
You ain't lying.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
I've ate some weird stuff.
joe rogan
Yes, yes, yes.
Yeah.
brendan schaub
That's fair.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
I don't know if I buy it.
joe rogan
I don't investigate everything I eat.
brendan schaub
No, never.
joe rogan
Dave Chappelle gave me some edibles the other day.
I don't know where the fuck they came from.
unidentified
That's Dave Chappelle, though.
brendan schaub
If he's eating it, I'm eating it, bro.
joe rogan
They're in a bag.
brendan schaub
He probably made it himself.
joe rogan
I'm pretty sure he ate mushrooms from a fan the other day.
brendan schaub
That's so gangster.
That's so hardcore.
joe rogan
We went to see Once Upon a Time in America at 1 o'clock in the morning.
Dave rented out the entire movie theater.
We do this fucking sold-out show in the Tacoma Dome.
We break the all-time attendance record for the Tacoma Dome.
25,000 people.
It was madness.
We're flying high.
It's insane.
It was an insane show.
brendan schaub
Who opens for you guys?
joe rogan
Well, it's Ashley Barnhill.
She goes on.
She does 10 minutes.
And then Ian Edwards goes on.
brendan schaub
Monster.
joe rogan
Murders it.
And then I go on.
Murdered it.
It was a fucking crazy intermission.
There's a DJ. He's got a hype man.
unidentified
Chugga-chugga-chugga-chugga-chugga-chugga.
What?
joe rogan
People are getting drinking.
Fucking lights and everything.
It's madness.
Okay?
Then Donnell Rawlings goes on.
unidentified
It's a show.
joe rogan
Murders.
Then Dave goes on.
Lights the place on fire.
Pisses gasoline on the flames.
Then, afterwards, he and I go on stage together.
brendan schaub
And what do you do together?
joe rogan
And we take Q&A with the crowd.
Donnell's got a microphone.
He's going into the crowd with 20 fucking 5,000 people.
People are rushing the stage.
It's madness.
I mean, madness.
brendan schaub
What questions did you get?
joe rogan
I'm rich, bitch.
Everyone's drunk.
brendan schaub
I'm sure Dave hates that, by the way.
joe rogan
The show is five hours old by the time this is happening.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
I'm not exaggerating.
We go on stage.
The show's supposed to start at 8. It probably starts at 8.30.
9, 10, 11, 12. The show was at least 3 and a half, 4 hours old by the time it was over.
So the show ends like 12, 30-ish.
We go immediately from the arena straight to a movie theater that David rented out.
We have a private screening of Once Upon a Time in Hollywood at 1 o'clock in the morning.
Dave's eating mushrooms that some fucking guy gave him in the crowd.
brendan schaub
Did you eat them too?
joe rogan
No!
brendan schaub
Too smart for that, man.
joe rogan
Fool me once, shame on you.
Fool me twice, shame on me.
Was that us up there?
Yeah.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Bro, it was nuts.
It was nuts.
brendan schaub
Did you like the movie?
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Long at 1 in the morning, though.
joe rogan
We got out of there at 4.30 in the morning.
Then, we get on a jet at 10, we fly to Salt Lake City, and immediately, everybody gets an IV vitamin drip.
brendan schaub
That Dave set up.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
B12 shots.
These motherfuckers go rock style.
brendan schaub
Professional.
joe rogan
Rock star style.
brendan schaub
Professional.
joe rogan
Dave's got sunglasses on the entire time.
The whole crew, he has a posse with him.
He brings his own photographer.
It was madness.
brendan schaub
Legend.
joe rogan
I was like, okay, I see how you guys are doing it.
Oh, by the way, we get picked up at the airport in a tour bus.
It takes a tour bus, 10 minutes in a tour bus to the airport, or from the airport to the hotel.
brendan schaub
And you're flying private, I assume.
joe rogan
Why drive around an SUV? We could drive in a fucking tour bus.
brendan schaub
That's for fucking...
joe rogan
It's hilarious.
unidentified
Wow!
joe rogan
It's so much fun.
brendan schaub
How did this...
But this is what I was wondering.
So were you and Dave at the store and Dave was like, who asks who?
Like you're both titans.
joe rogan
Dave called up my...
Well, he called up his agent.
I want to do a show with Joe Rogan.
And then his agent calls up my agent and they call me and I go, I'm in.
Let's do it.
brendan schaub
And then did you guys text after that?
Like, yo, it's going down?
joe rogan
No!
We didn't even text.
brendan schaub
Wow, all business.
joe rogan
It's all business.
brendan schaub
You just met at the arena.
joe rogan
Well, look, I love that guy.
brendan schaub
You guys know each other and you see each other at the store.
unidentified
Yeah, so...
joe rogan
He says, you know, when they say it, I'm like, yeah, let's do it.
It sounds like an awesome idea.
And I'm free that weekend.
brendan schaub
Great idea.
joe rogan
But it was only like five weeks out.
The show sells out in 24 hours.
brendan schaub
He doesn't have social media.
joe rogan
No, but that was the thing is that since he doesn't have social media, and I do, it like magnifies everything.
Because with all the fucking people that I have, 7 million on Instagram and 5 million on Twitter and 2 million on Facebook, it's like all of that shit.
And then the pod...
I don't even think I mentioned it on the podcast.
brendan schaub
I don't think I heard it.
joe rogan
I don't think we had to.
brendan schaub
You didn't have to.
unidentified
It sold out so quick.
brendan schaub
Dave does like secret shows that sell out in like 30 seconds.
joe rogan
Exactly.
Well, he does a lot of clubs and theaters and does whatever he wants.
He's a free bird.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, he's free.
He just does whatever he wants.
brendan schaub
He wears his own clothes too.
joe rogan
Did you notice that?
brendan schaub
Isn't that great?
Oh, I love it, man.
I fucking love it.
joe rogan
He's living wild, man.
It's beautiful.
brendan schaub
Are you guys going to do more together?
joe rogan
Fuck yeah!
We're already scheduling them.
I can't say anything because they're not scheduled.
brendan schaub
God, it's so cool.
joe rogan
We had a great goddamn time.
brendan schaub
Can I tell you what drives me nuts?
unidentified
What?
brendan schaub
And this is for any artists out there.
Your guys' art.
And I text you this.
You two...
Take this however you want.
You two are fucking legends, man.
For you two to get together and do shows is insane.
And to use...
Like, shit that me or Callan used to promote the shows drove me nuts.
joe rogan
Nah, that's nonsense.
brendan schaub
It's not, though, Joe.
For the fans, if you get a dope fucking artist to do something like you and Dave Chappelle, it's not for you.
joe rogan
I'm sure we will.
In the future, we will.
brendan schaub
Any artist, please, man.
joe rogan
They ran off some t-shirts in Salt Lake City.
Just a small batch for the fuck of it.
brendan schaub
There's one I sent to Jamie.
It's Jay-Z and Eminem in New York.
Like, two tights come together.
Aw, man.
When I saw what you guys were posting, I was like, oh, motherfucker.
joe rogan
Yeah, you worry about that too much.
brendan schaub
I don't, though.
I don't.
I'm a fan.
I appreciate that.
That's a history.
joe rogan
Well, we'll iron that out, because we're going to do a gang more of these.
So we'll iron all that shit out.
brendan schaub
I'm sure Dave cares, but he doesn't have social media.
joe rogan
No, he doesn't have any social media.
He doesn't even pay attention.
He's the freest guy I've ever met in terms of not being locked into his phone.
He doesn't even look at his phone.
He doesn't even have it on him.
He's got a phone, but he don't look at it.
brendan schaub
He doesn't fuck with it.
He doesn't care.
joe rogan
He makes phone calls.
You know?
It's like, he FaceTimes people and shit.
He's not checking social media at all.
brendan schaub
Did you learn anything from him just being around him?
joe rogan
Well, that is interesting.
Well, this is what I learned.
There's levels to everything.
And he's on this, like, super celebrity, rock star level that's really weird.
It's really weird.
But he's so nice.
He's so, like, he's so fun to be around.
Like, part of why Dave is so funny is because he's fun.
When you're around him, it's not like he's serious and then he goes on stage and then he's funny.
No.
All day long, it's like legs slapping and looking you in the eyes and fucking cracking and high-fiving.
It's fun, man.
He's a fun dude.
unidentified
But he's also very wise.
joe rogan
He's wise in his approach.
For instance, he lives in the middle of Ohio in a fucking farm.
brendan schaub
To get away from all the noise?
joe rogan
Yes!
To get away from all the fucking noise, man.
He wants peace and quiet mixed in with these intermittent bouts of madness.
So he has these crazy Radio City Music Hall shows.
brendan schaub
That's similar to you, though.
joe rogan
You don't live in frickin' LA. No, but eventually I'm gonna move out of California.
brendan schaub
How dare you?
joe rogan
When you're older?
No, not that much time.
I think pretty soon.
unidentified
No.
brendan schaub
You mean get a place, but you're still gonna be here.
Be at the store and shit.
joe rogan
I'm gonna eventually move.
What?
For good?
Get the fuck out of here.
I'm gonna keep a place here.
And I'm probably going to still do shows out of this studio.
I'll fly in to do them.
Like, I'll probably wind up banking them, like doing them in a week, and then taking the rest of the month off.
unidentified
Wow!
joe rogan
Yeah.
I don't want to be here.
brendan schaub
What about the store?
joe rogan
There's too many...
Well, I love the store, but, you know, I also love the improv.
I've been doing a lot of improv shows.
brendan schaub
Improv's great.
The store's great.
Yeah.
Ice House is amazing.
joe rogan
I'm still going to do shows, but I really think that there's something that's taxing about the volume of people here.
brendan schaub
Agree.
joe rogan
That bothers me.
brendan schaub
Especially with kids.
joe rogan
Yeah, and when I came back from Italy, you know, I was in Italy for 12 days, when I came back, like the fucking highway, we landed at like 10 o'clock at night, just bumper to bumper on the 405. I was like, this is stupid.
This is a stupid place to live, because I travel so much.
brendan schaub
I know.
joe rogan
I mean, I could travel out of Denver.
You know, I could live in Denver and travel out of there.
brendan schaub
Denver's crowded as fuck, too, though.
joe rogan
It's not as bad!
brendan schaub
25,000 people a month moving there.
It's a beast.
It's blowing up.
joe rogan
It's a lot.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
Maybe Montana.
But there's places to live that are more peaceful.
brendan schaub
Yeah, but are you going to be satisfied not doing sets every night at the store, man?
There's no way.
Like, your happiness, you know what I'm saying?
It's a weird balance, because I hear you.
I hear you wear the balance for your family and stuff.
But, like, I check off boxes when I go out at night and I can, I see, like, my, I don't, I don't, you're saying, I don't hang out, man.
I hang out at the store when I see you there at the improv when I see my friends or this is me hanging out.
I check those boxes on that.
I don't hang out, man.
But I need that for my own sanity.
I need it.
joe rogan
But I mean, I feel like you can also get that when you tour.
You know, you can get that when you go on the weekends.
I think I'd have to do more clubs.
I can't just do theaters.
Because I really feel like it's a numbers thing.
Like in terms of, almost like if you're doing cardio.
Well, you can't do hard cardio once a week and expect to be in shape.
You won't be in shape.
brendan schaub
You gotta do a bunch.
joe rogan
You have to do it many, many times a week.
So if you're going to live somewhere other than L.A., I feel like you have to do at least five sets a week.
I think that's the magic number.
So I think you'd have to do a weekend where you're doing two shows a night, Friday, two shows a night, Saturday, and you'd have to do a weeknight somewhere.
brendan schaub
Or Thursday, Friday, Saturday.
joe rogan
Yeah, you'd have to do something like that.
Thursday, Friday, Saturday, or Friday, Saturday, Sunday.
brendan schaub
Or you could open your own club in Montana.
joe rogan
Thursday, Friday, Saturday is better than Friday, Saturday, Sunday.
brendan schaub
Oh, Sunday can suck my dick.
joe rogan
Yeah, Sunday's a whack night.
brendan schaub
Sunday, that's the Lord's Day, bro.
joe rogan
It's a bummer of a night, right?
Everybody's exhausted.
unidentified
Oh, God.
brendan schaub
I don't do Sundays.
Joey Diaz, I think you and Joey Diaz told me never do Sundays.
I did it once and I was depressed.
But also, then I don't get a day off with my family.
joe rogan
Yeah, not good.
brendan schaub
I don't work Monday nights and then I don't work Sundays.
That's my only rule.
joe rogan
Those are smart days, yeah.
Yeah, I'm the same way with you.
Sunday and Monday is how I've been doing it lately.
Yeah, and you gotta do that.
You gotta have those boundaries where you decide to take nights.
I mean, occasionally I'll do a Monday night, but most of the time it's not.
Most of the time I take those off.
But I think there's a real benefit to not being overrun by the volume of people out here.
brendan schaub
Is that what, you think that's why Dave, one of the reasons he excels?
You guys are similar with that, where you don't, you're not really tuned in with like the masses.
Meaning tuned in where you're not glued to your freaking, to Twitter and Instagram.
joe rogan
Well, also he's not into going to like red carpet events and getting photographs.
unidentified
Neither are you.
brendan schaub
You hate that shit.
joe rogan
Well, I just feel like it's a circle jerk, you know, and everybody's just, you know, it's just weird.
The whole celebrity world is very weird.
It's very weird.
But I get how people love...
When you're famous and then you're around other famous people, they're the only people that think you're normal, you know?
brendan schaub
They also understand what you're going through.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
But it's...
Like, I ran into Jamie Foxx the other night at a steakhouse.
brendan schaub
Most talented guy in the world.
joe rogan
Nicest guy, too.
brendan schaub
Hands down the most talented guy in the world.
joe rogan
But...
When I see him, it's like, what's up?
What are you doing?
What's going on, man?
And we're talking and laughing and joking around.
I'm like, he's never weirded out.
He's so famous.
He's like, he probably never gets a chance to be a normal person.
unidentified
Never.
joe rogan
Unless he's around other famous people.
brendan schaub
Where you don't want a picture or an autograph or something.
All that movie you did.
I'm right, man.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, he likes to just hang out and have fun.
brendan schaub
I wish you'd get him back on the podcast.
joe rogan
He wants to do it.
We were talking about it.
brendan schaub
But like a real long form podcast.
Last time he was like pushing his sunglasses or some shit.
joe rogan
Oh yeah, that's right.
He had a sunglass deal.
He was doing...
I don't think he's even doing that anymore.
brendan schaub
He had a great story.
No, I don't think so.
joe rogan
Somebody probably shackled out some fucking...
Serious.
brendan schaub
Cheddar.
Oh, dude.
joe rogan
Serious.
brendan schaub
Jamie Foxx and those bullshit sunglasses.
Yeah, man.
It was him and Jeremy Piven.
joe rogan
They were pushing sunglasses?
brendan schaub
Yeah, it was him and Pippen together.
joe rogan
Are those still alive?
Are those sunglasses still alive?
unidentified
Is Pippen still alive?
joe rogan
No, no.
Are those sunglasses?
brendan schaub
Oh, I don't think...
I don't think...
No.
No.
The answer to all that is no.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Yeah, the sunglasses kind of, I think, fizzled out.
But you got to figure, Jamie Foxx to push sunglasses?
You think he needs money from your fucking sunglass sales?
Right, why did he do that?
They had to pay him fucking...
joe rogan
Did I ever tell you I ran into him at a gas station?
Some guy pulls up in a fucking car that doesn't even look like it's from this planet.
Some strange SUV, some weird fucking, I don't know what it's called, but I looked at it and I was like, what the fuck is that thing?
We're a weird looking thing.
I forget what it's based on.
It's based on the frame of a Jeep Wrangler and they build this insane $500,000 fucking SUV. And the window rolls down.
brendan schaub
What's up, Joe?
joe rogan
It's Jamie Foxx.
I'm like, what are you doing, Jamie?
I'm like, what is this?
And his friend was selling them.
His friend probably gave it to Jamie.
brendan schaub
For sure.
The only way he's sold.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I was like, this is the craziest car I've ever seen.
It's so weird looking.
You know what it is?
jamie vernon
They're like boxy, right?
brendan schaub
But then they have squinky little lights.
jamie vernon
I don't know how to even find it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
Just Google Jamie Foxx crazy SUV. I got crazy expensive Jeep Wranglers that I got so far.
brendan schaub
Why I know this, I don't know.
But it's Chris Brown drives one of his new video where he dances with the house.
joe rogan
Oh, he's got one of them too?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
They're probably giving them away to people.
brendan schaub
For sure.
jamie vernon
Resvani tank.
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
Yeah, let me see what that pitch looks like.
brendan schaub
Yeah, they're sick.
joe rogan
Yeah, that makes sense.
Give it to Chris Brown.
It's in his video.
That's it.
Yeah, that's it.
unidentified
Look at that fucking thing.
brendan schaub
That's exactly it.
That thing's so cool.
unidentified
Look at that thing.
joe rogan
Look at that thing.
brendan schaub
It's nuts.
joe rogan
It's fucking RoboCop.
Look, it's dope, though.
He pulled up.
Look, it's got the suicide doors in the back.
And the interior is gorgeous.
brendan schaub
The engine's based off a Jeep Wrangler?
joe rogan
I don't know what it is.
I don't know what it is.
brendan schaub
There it is!
joe rogan
That's a dope ride, man.
brendan schaub
Fuck yeah.
joe rogan
It's really incredible.
But I hear...
brendan schaub
Now I want one.
joe rogan
I mean, they're real expensive, right?
jamie vernon
This is $150, $180, something like that.
joe rogan
Oh, that's not that bad.
brendan schaub
Not terrible.
joe rogan
I thought it was like a half a million.
brendan schaub
Me too.
I thought at least $350.
Fuck.
jamie vernon
500 horsepower, 180,000.
brendan schaub
Sufficient.
180. Wow.
joe rogan
Isn't it funny that 500 horsepower used to be insanity?
brendan schaub
Me and my brother were talking about this.
My brother's a huge car guy.
We were talking about this.
And I just got my Ferrari over 800. And...
joe rogan
Just that phrase, I just got my Ferrari.
brendan schaub
Over 800. So ridiculous.
unidentified
Over 800 horsepower.
brendan schaub
So ridiculous.
Here's the thing.
They're going to come out.
Well, the TDF, they have a TDF version of mine.
They'll only be 600. What's a TDF? It's like the souped-up version of mine.
It's the race version.
They only made 600 of them.
And that comes stock with like 817 horsepower.
But then Ferrari went, cool story, we're coming out with the 812 Superfast V12. TDF. For the Tour de France.
But they can't call it the Tour de France.
They have to call it TDF because Tour de France, the fucking bike boys own it.
joe rogan
Did you see that shit where this guy had a super fast and he's apparently a very famous designer and he put his sneakers on the roof of this dope fucking Ferrari that he owns.
He owns this crazy green Ferrari.
brendan schaub
Super fast?
joe rogan
Yes.
It's gorgeous.
And he put his sneakers, which are green as well, on the Ferrari.
And Ferrari sent him a cease and desist.
And they threatened him.
This guy, Philipp Plein, lashes out a Ferrari over a cease and desist letter.
But look at the photo.
brendan schaub
He's wearing an alligator jacket.
joe rogan
Yeah, of course he is.
What an asshole.
Apparently, I asked my wife, and this guy's a fan.
Look how dope that color is.
I'm not usually into a green car, but that looks fucking amazing.
brendan schaub
Porsche makes the GT3 in it.
joe rogan
But that's a metallic, shiny...
unidentified
Yeah, it is.
brendan schaub
That's a hot electric green.
joe rogan
Yeah.
See if there's any other pictures of his car.
But look at that.
He's got these dope sneakers, and they're sitting on his Ferrari.
And Ferrari was angry.
They were like, you're using our brand or something like that.
brendan schaub
Oh, because...
I'm trying to think.
Because he painted green.
Are those his shoes?
And it's with the Ferrari?
joe rogan
Look at what they said.
Ferrari's trademarks and model cars are associated in your pictures with a lifestyle totally inconsistent with Ferrari's brand perception in connection with performers making sexual innuendos and using Ferrari cars as props in a manner which is, per se, distasteful.
This behavior tarnishes the reputation of Ferrari's brands and causes Ferrari further material damage.
In fact, the undesirable connection between Ferrari's trademarks on the one hand and Philippine's line of shoes and the questionable manner in which they're promoted on the other hand is interfering negatively with the rights enjoyed by Ferrari's selected licenses which are exclusively entitled to use Ferrari's trademarks To produce and promote line of shoes, Ferrari brand.
That's nonsense.
brendan schaub
That's why I love Ferrari.
unidentified
Why?
jamie vernon
Don't they have Ferrari branded shoes?
brendan schaub
Fuck yeah, they do.
unidentified
Do they?
brendan schaub
They sell more merch than cars.
They make their money off merch.
joe rogan
But this guy is a very successful designer.
His stuff is very expensive.
brendan schaub
That's why you gotta love Ferrari.
joe rogan
No, you don't.
brendan schaub
Get that shit out of here.
unidentified
No!
brendan schaub
Get that shit out of here.
How about you leave it alone?
No, I'm just kidding, dude.
No, here's the thing.
He probably got allocated the super fast, because you know how Ferrari works.
You can't just walk in the store and buy one.
So you got allocated one.
So he probably owned other V12s.
It's a crazy...
joe rogan
He's owned Ferraris for 10 years, he said.
brendan schaub
There you go.
So he gets allocated the new ones.
So he probably had access to the TDF. Then he got a super fast, and then he painted it green like an asshole, which is a cool color.
No, he can't.
Well, he might have had it paint to show.
I don't think Ferrari offers that green.
What?
No, no way.
Really?
No.
He did that himself.
That's why Ferrari's like, Jesus Christ, dude, be cool.
joe rogan
Really?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
You don't think Ferrari offers that color?
brendan schaub
I don't think so.
I would doubt it.
Have you ever seen another Ferrari?
If they did, oh man.
joe rogan
I've never seen one of those.
brendan schaub
He probably paid such a premium for that color because they don't make that color.
joe rogan
Well, the only one I've seen in the flesh is yours.
I've never seen one of those cars before.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, I've seen one of them at a dealership.
brendan schaub
There's only 700 of them in the States.
I saw a gray, like that Battleship Gray.
God, it made my dick hard.
Certain cars do, man.
I want so many cars.
joe rogan
I know, it's crazy, right?
brendan schaub
Yeah, man.
joe rogan
It's a problem with cars.
brendan schaub
I'll tell you this, I absolutely love Ferrari.
I love Ferrari.
There's nothing like a Porsche.
In terms of driving?
I've had all the cars.
There's nothing as far as the driving experience but in the Porsche.
joe rogan
Yeah.
No, I agree.
brendan schaub
I think I have to always have a Porsche.
joe rogan
The reason why I still have that 2007 GT3 RS that Sharkworks worked on?
brendan schaub
That's one of the greatest cars ever, though.
joe rogan
Every time I get in there, I get happy.
It just feels amazing.
It's just...
And also...
brendan schaub
You can feel it.
joe rogan
I want a goddamn manual transmission.
brendan schaub
Me too.
That's what I want now.
joe rogan
The Porsche is the last of the Mohicans.
They still don't do it, though, for the GT3 RS, and they still don't do it for the GT2 RS. I wish they did.
But you can get it in the GT3 Touring.
The GT3 and the GT3 Touring, they'll sell you with a manual transmission.
brendan schaub
Which is what...
Yeah, I want to get one of those.
joe rogan
Dude, the new Corvette.
Abandon the manual.
brendan schaub
I know, but they're fast as fuck.
No, I agree.
I mean, you drive a Tesla.
What?
But the Corvette, to me, it looks badass.
They completely ripped off Ferrari.
I mean, come on.
joe rogan
It's a mid-engine car.
brendan schaub
Mid-engine car.
joe rogan
Yeah, but I have a 65 Corvette with a giant hearse shifter with a fucking cue ball.
The cue ball shift, that's the real goddamn shift.
That's America!
brendan schaub
I know.
joe rogan
Side pipes, bitch!
brendan schaub
I know.
I don't want one of those Corvettes, though.
They look cool, but I won't.
joe rogan
They look dope, man.
When the ZR1 comes out and it goes 0-60 in three milliseconds, you're going to want one.
unidentified
You know what?
brendan schaub
It's not all about 0-60.
I'm not Vin Diesel.
I don't live my life one quarter of a mile at a time.
joe rogan
Guess who else isn't Vin Diesel?
Vin Diesel.
brendan schaub
Yeah, you're right.
joe rogan
That motherfucker wears sunglasses at night.
brendan schaub
Yeah, he does.
Yeah, he does.
You know that he's quietly becoming a billionaire from the Fast and Furious franchise?
unidentified
Really?
brendan schaub
Because he owns it.
That's his?
Yeah, it's his.
So like Universal, the rides and all that, he's quietly becoming a billionaire.
joe rogan
He's probably in a castle somewhere doing Caligula shit.
brendan schaub
And fucking dudes.
joe rogan
You think so?
unidentified
For sure!
brendan schaub
Really?
You don't get those vibes from him?
I didn't even think that.
When he's in the wife beater, like barbecuing all the time?
joe rogan
He's barbecuing?
brendan schaub
Yeah, in Passive Beers.
unidentified
I do too, but in a beater?
joe rogan
I have to wear a wife beater, but my wife yells at me.
She doesn't let me wear those.
I can go shirtless.
brendan schaub
Rightfully so.
unidentified
Rightfully so.
joe rogan
If I have a wife beat her on, she'll start making fun of me.
brendan schaub
That's fair, man.
It's so old school.
jamie vernon
Do you remember that video?
joe rogan
What's he doing?
Butt fucking?
jamie vernon
He's singing the Beyonce song five years ago.
joe rogan
What's going on with his pants?
Why are they so low?
jamie vernon
I'm not going to show up, but this went viral.
brendan schaub
You've got to show Joe, though.
joe rogan
Drunk in love.
brendan schaub
Yeah, he starts singing Beyonce song.
joe rogan
What is he doing?
jamie vernon
Yeah, this is the longest.
Three minutes.
He made it himself.
joe rogan
And we can't play this?
jamie vernon
Well, the song will get it.
brendan schaub
They can hear the audio, though.
joe rogan
This is unnecessary.
Just the dancing is unnecessary.
brendan schaub
But dude, he's celebrating his movie and went, I don't know, platinum or some shit like that.
So he does Drunk in Love.
He does a cover of him singing.
joe rogan
Okay, kill this before.
brendan schaub
Can you hear it?
joe rogan
Listen, I'm on Team Rock.
brendan schaub
Dude, you do not live your life one quarter mile at a time if you're doing this, bro.
joe rogan
I'm on Team The Rock all day, every day.
Even The Rock don't get along, right?
brendan schaub
They hate each other.
joe rogan
What do you think happened there?
brendan schaub
I heard Rock was a big diva on set.
joe rogan
Rock is a big diva?
brendan schaub
That's what I heard.
joe rogan
From who?
brendan schaub
People.
joe rogan
What'd you hear?
brendan schaub
That were on the set.
Just that, you know, The Rock sometimes shows up late and there's trailers and he wanted the biggest trailer and obviously Vin Diesel, you know, he's Mr. fucking Fast and Furious.
Who knows who's right?
Listen, he just did Beyonce cover, so I don't know.
joe rogan
Sixteen rules.
Let's kill that.
brendan schaub
I'm also Team Rock here as well.
joe rogan
Sixteen rules the cast of Fast and Furious have to follow on set.
What?
There's rules?
jamie vernon
Certain guys can't get hit a certain amount of times.
They have to win fights in certain ways.
unidentified
What?
brendan schaub
You know the Rock?
jamie vernon
That's not a good version.
Go back to that.
joe rogan
Just go back to it.
I was reading that.
jamie vernon
I know, but this isn't the best version.
joe rogan
They have to go to racing school in Las Vegas?
brendan schaub
That makes sense, though.
That does make sense.
Fast and Furious.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
But, you know, The Rock and Vin Diesel couldn't be on set at the same time.
They hate each other so bad.
Really?
They had to shoot different scenes and, like, shoot it so it looked like someone was there.
They hate each other so much.
joe rogan
Didn't The Rock gotten a big thing with Tyrese, too, right?
brendan schaub
Ah, Tyrese was just flipping out because, like, all he has is Fast and Furious.
unidentified
Really?
brendan schaub
So that when The Rock did a spinoff, he's like, how dare you?
We're a family.
The Rock was like, no, we're not.
They gave me a spinoff, dumbass.
joe rogan
But remember when The Rock was shitting on his music?
brendan schaub
That was fantastic.
joe rogan
Oh, lit.
Because Rock is so positive.
Tyrese Gibson reignites fast feud with Dwayne Johnson calls spinoff Hobson Shaw's not a win.
brendan schaub
Look at Tyrese crying in that video.
joe rogan
Why is he crying?
brendan schaub
He went crazy.
He went crazy for a shot.
joe rogan
Why is he crying?
This is all I've got?
brendan schaub
And he asked Will Smith for money.
joe rogan
That's what he's mad about?
Why did he ask Will Smith for money?
brendan schaub
I don't know.
I think he fell in hard times.
joe rogan
This is making me sad.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
The video.
Here's the thing.
joe rogan
People lose their mind, man.
brendan schaub
The actors, really.
joe rogan
They lose their mind.
brendan schaub
Because you're pretending to be someone else all the time?
unidentified
Yes.
brendan schaub
Except for The Rock.
joe rogan
Not good for you.
That guy, you know what he does?
He just goes to the gym.
brendan schaub
The Rock?
joe rogan
With two hours sleep.
brendan schaub
A lot of steroids.
joe rogan
You think?
brendan schaub
Joe.
joe rogan
Do you really?
brendan schaub
You think he's getting big like that from cocaine again?
joe rogan
Cocaine again?
He used to do cocaine?
brendan schaub
No, I'm saying the Jon Jones thing.
But I'm just saying...
Me and Bert Kreiser were talking about this.
I think Bert's going to make a bit of it, but...
When you see The Rock, you know how it is working out.
Two hours of sleep.
For sure, he's doing that stuff, man.
He's grinding.
He's on private jets.
He is loaded on performance-enhancing drugs, dude.
joe rogan
You think so?
brendan schaub
His body is pulsing, as your boy the Golden Snitch would say.
Boy, I don't know.
I'm not sure.
I don't know, bro.
joe rogan
I don't know what you're saying.
brendan schaub
I don't know, bro.
joe rogan
Jason Statham and The Rock refuse to lose fights against one another.
brendan schaub
Jason Statham.
Come on, bro.
joe rogan
Jason, settle down.
brendan schaub
How about you really fight and then that determines what happens?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You weigh 170 pounds.
brendan schaub
He used to be an Olympic swimmer, you know that?
joe rogan
He's a bad motherfucker, though, Jason Statham.
But The Rock is an enormous human.
How are they the same height there?
That doesn't make any sense.
brendan schaub
That is strange.
joe rogan
Is he on a box?
jamie vernon
Good.
joe rogan
That doesn't make any sense.
Okay, egocentric demands are nothing new.
First of all, we don't know if this is true.
And this is The Guardian, which is kind of a nonsense website.
So let's just stop reading this.
brendan schaub
It's interesting, though.
And you know it's also probably true.
joe rogan
Behind the movie series told The Wall Street Journal, Paywall, that actors including Jason Statham, Dwayne The Rock Johnson, and Vin Diesel have contracts demanding that limit the amount of punishment their characters take in fights.
brendan schaub
Because they don't want to look like bitches.
unidentified
Oh, good lord!
brendan schaub
You imagine telling your agent that?
I'm down to do it, man.
I read through the script.
When he punches me in the face, I'm not going down, bro.
I'm not doing it.
You imagine doing that?
unidentified
Oh, God.
joe rogan
That's so crazy.
brendan schaub
Think if your group of friends were around, and you're like, dude, what the fuck are you doing?
joe rogan
What's up, James?
brendan schaub
Diesel's sister reported to have been present on set asking if her brother was going to get his licks back in.
joe rogan
Well, that could...
She'd been joking around.
My sister might say that, too, if she saw me in a movie, get my ass kicked.
You're going to go fuck him up?
We'd be laughing together.
brendan schaub
I'd slap her in the face.
Can I get my legs back in?
Well, you know it's fake, bitch.
unidentified
Like, what are you talking about?
brendan schaub
I'm also making $100 million.
unidentified
What are you talking about?
brendan schaub
You could whoop my ass every scene for that money.
joe rogan
It's funny when a movie franchise just gets bananas huge like that.
Just so big.
brendan schaub
And Vin Diesel's like, yeah, cool, man.
joe rogan
But he's always doing a million things at once.
brendan schaub
Is he or is he just doing fast?
What else is he doing, bro?
joe rogan
Well, he's got a television show.
unidentified
No!
joe rogan
Yes, he does.
unidentified
Vin Diesel?
joe rogan
Yeah, like a game show, Fear Factor type television show.
He is always doing something.
He's also doing Jumanji.
He did a new Jumanji one.
brendan schaub
Are you talking about The Rock?
joe rogan
Oh, The Rock.
brendan schaub
You're talking about The Rock.
joe rogan
What'd you say Vin Diesel?
brendan schaub
Vin Diesel.
All he does is...
Vin Diesel goes, I'm getting on Fast and Furious.
I make a billion dollars.
joe rogan
Did I say Vin Diesel or The Rock?
brendan schaub
You said Vin Diesel.
joe rogan
Oh, I'm sorry.
I'm drunk.
brendan schaub
Unless he's fixing the rides at Universal Studios.
joe rogan
The Rock is always doing a million different things at once.
Always.
He's got Ballers on HBO. He's got that TV show that he does, which is like some crazy fucking Fear Factor type deal.
He's got Jumanji.
He's always filming a million different shows at the same time.
brendan schaub
No, he's doing a thousand movies.
Here's the thing.
joe rogan
How does he do that?
brendan schaub
Again, to my point, a lot of steroids, a lot of performance and drugs, and I'm all about it.
I have no problem with this.
But let's tell the kids like it is.
Like, I thought Arnold was...
I was like, man, hopefully I can get there one day if I keep being in the gym.
I wish my dad would be like, uh-uh.
joe rogan
It's never happening.
brendan schaub
Not happening.
We gotta inject some shit in your ass.
jamie vernon
Forgot that Vin Diesel is in the Avengers.
unidentified
What?
brendan schaub
What?
jamie vernon
He's Groot.
brendan schaub
Oh!
He's the voice of Groot.
joe rogan
Guardians of the Galaxy.
brendan schaub
Probably takes him 30 minutes to do that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Um...
You know what else?
That vitamin drip that I did with Chappelle?
That opened my eyes.
I've never done one of those things before.
You've never done IV? IV vitamin drip?
brendan schaub
I swear by him, brother.
I swear by him.
joe rogan
I did a bag and a half and I was ready to run through a wall.
I had three hours sleep.
brendan schaub
They'll come to your house.
joe rogan
Yeah, they'll come anywhere.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
They came to our hotel room.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I get them at the crib all the time.
unidentified
Do you really?
brendan schaub
Because my girl's pregnant again.
We have another one coming in November.
And for the nausea, we get IVs.
It works?
Oh, dude.
joe rogan
Dude.
brendan schaub
Night and day.
joe rogan
It's amazing for pumping you up.
brendan schaub
Not too tired.
jamie vernon
In that time in Vegas I had to get it?
You had a show there and I showed up wasted, I think.
Like the New Year's Eve UFC. I had to wake up and I had to get it.
brendan schaub
You felt so much better?
jamie vernon
20 minutes.
I was good to go.
It was crazy.
brendan schaub
You know what's crazy to me?
The UFC doesn't allow...
You feel so good.
joe rogan
Well, it's because you can mask the use of performance-enhancing drugs.
brendan schaub
Fucking haters, bro.
unidentified
God.
joe rogan
Speaking of performance-enhancing drugs, let's talk about the cyborg situation.
brendan schaub
I knew you were going to go there.
As soon as I said that, oh, he's going to bring up cyborg.
How about that?
joe rogan
See Dana go hard in the paint?
brendan schaub
You know what?
I like when he goes hard in the paint.
He's the only guy...
Listen, say what you want about Dana, and I do like it.
We always say, can you imagine if another commissioner did this or another owner did this?
But I do like when he does spit the...
Because what he's saying is the truth.
Sometimes he's on one, and you're like, what the fuck are you talking about?
You're screwing these guys over?
Then sometimes, with the Cyborg thing, when you send that to me, I'm like, I agree with him 100%.
I love when he does that.
joe rogan
Well, they fucked up.
And they really fucked up.
brendan schaub
They mean Cyborg's team.
joe rogan
Cyborg's team.
Whoever did it, whether it's her boyfriend or whoever it was that edited that video, that lied and put words in his mouth, is so fucking stupid.
You don't think that they're going to do something about that?
You're out of your goddamn mind.
When they edited that video to say that whenever I'm talking in public, I'm not telling the truth, which is not what he said at all, and then they have it edit and cut right there?
brendan schaub
Well, I'll tell you this right now.
Dana's too smart.
Let's say he thinks that.
You think he would say that in a public forum to Cyborg when they're face-to-face like that?
You don't think you realize there's cameras around?
joe rogan
No.
brendan schaub
He's way too smart for that.
So A, I'm like, well, he's not that dumb.
B, that video, you can tell it's so full of shit.
Same thing happened with me and Nate Diaz had our confrontation.
I didn't say any of that stuff.
Someone made that all up.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, what also they did was they were bringing back shit that happened five years ago.
And Cyborg was saying she wanted an apology from me.
And I don't think it was that she wanted an apology from me.
I think it was her boyfriend or someone on the team.
I apologized to her.
Me and her.
No one around.
Face to face.
And I took a photo with her afterwards.
There's a photo of me and her on my Instagram.
brendan schaub
You were just like, hey, me and my guys were goofing around.
joe rogan
She started fighting in the UFC. She hadn't fought in the UFC before.
And I said, hey, I'm sorry about the jokes.
I promise no more jokes.
And I said, I am actually a fan of yours.
And I want you to succeed in the UFC. And I wish you the best of luck.
I go, no hard feelings.
She goes, no, those jokes kind of hurt my feelings.
And I said, I'm sorry.
I go, I promise no more jokes.
I gave her a hug and we took a picture together.
And that was, when was that?
brendan schaub
2017. Here's the only time where I'm like, God damn, man, is her kids getting bullied at school because of the comments.
joe rogan
I didn't know she had a kid.
brendan schaub
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
How many kids did she have?
brendan schaub
She has one daughter, I think, in like fourth grade.
And she goes, because of the narrative that the UFC's painted, right or wrong, I get it from the UFC side.
It doesn't mean it's right.
joe rogan
What narrative?
brendan schaub
That she's this heel, she's this monster, PEDs, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, but that's because she tested positive.
brendan schaub
Once?
We don't talk about Jon Jones.
He's tested positive more than once.
joe rogan
First of all, Jon Jones got tested positive for this tiny amount of something that Probably came from a tainted supplement.
She tested positive for a serious steroid.
A woman taking a steroid is different than a man taking a steroid.
brendan schaub
I'm with you.
Take out female male, which is tough to do here.
There's been people who have tested positive before where that's not their narrative.
Brock Lesnar.
joe rogan
Yeah, but it is Brock Lesnar's narrative.
It's also Alistair Overeem's narrative.
unidentified
Is it?
brendan schaub
Was it Vitor Belfort?
joe rogan
Is it Vitor?
TRT Vitor?
brendan schaub
The UFC doesn't tell you that, though.
But you and I do.
joe rogan
The fans do.
They're not marketing the fact that Starboard was taking steroids.
brendan schaub
No, they market her into this kind of heel role, though.
Where if you know her, she's awesome.
joe rogan
But no, they market her as a destroyer, which she is in her career.
unidentified
The scary destroyer, but also in a good way.
joe rogan
Look, if you look at her fights, you look at the fight with, look, when it gets dark is when you go back to the non-testing days, like the Gina Carano fight, when she had veins coming out of her face, and she looked like a fucking murderer.
brendan schaub
And Gina Carano, this is my argument for, I don't mean to interrupt you, but Gina Carano, A, the hottest Chica to have her fight in MMA. B, fought Cyborg when she was juiced to the gills.
Did pretty well.
unidentified
Did pretty well.
brendan schaub
Go back to the match.
joe rogan
She did pretty well.
brendan schaub
Shout out to Gina Carano.
joe rogan
Eventually got beaten down.
And there's a picture of Cyborg holding Gina's face and punching her.
And you see the black fingernails.
And she's got this mean look in her face.
And she's punching Gina in the face.
brendan schaub
Bring that shit up, Jamie.
joe rogan
You ever seen that picture?
brendan schaub
I've never seen it.
joe rogan
Dude, it's one of those pictures.
It was the demise.
No, no, no.
It's a standing photo of Cyborg punching.
brendan schaub
Oh, is it that one?
unidentified
Yeah, right there.
brendan schaub
Right there.
joe rogan
No, no, no.
brendan schaub
Far left.
joe rogan
Go left.
Go left.
One above that.
One above that.
Right there.
Bam.
That's the photo.
unidentified
Jesus Christ.
joe rogan
But look at the black fingernails.
brendan schaub
Wait, how can she grab her face like that and punch her?
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
Well, it's the end of the fight.
I mean, she's already beaten her down.
But, I mean, she's holding her face with those black fingernails and just crushing Gina's head.
She beat the shit out of her.
But Gina was a beast, man, and she hung in there as long as she could, but the consensus was that Cyborg was juiced up in that fight.
brendan schaub
Well, in that one, right, you mark it as Beauty and the Beast, right?
That's just the way it is.
Gina's a gorgeous individual.
Cyborg...
Not so much when it comes to the looks department.
So I get that market at Beauty and the Beast.
I had Kyla Harrison on.
You know who that is?
The PFL. She's a two-time gold medalist.
joe rogan
It's Kayla, right?
brendan schaub
Kayla Harrison, yeah.
Monster.
And she's in the PFL, and she's in the tournament there, and she wants to fight Cyborg.
joe rogan
Yeah, well there's a lot of people that are wanting to fight.
brendan schaub
She definitely wants, right?
Undefeated, gold medalist.
And I was talking to her about why does she think that kind of cyborg has gone down this road in her career?
And then I pitched her on, you know, if I'm the UFC, this might be completely fucking wrong, I don't know, but this is how I would do it and this is what they're doing is what I think.
But if I'm the UFC, as nice as a person cyborg is, there's no other girl walking this planet that looks like cyborg, really.
Because maybe PDs, to your point.
joe rogan
Well, wait a minute.
When you say maybe, like most likely.
brendan schaub
That's what I'm saying.
I'm trying to be cool.
I'm trying to be nice.
joe rogan
I know you're trying to be nice.
brendan schaub
There's a lot of girls that look like Paige Van Zandt.
There's a lot of girls like Paige Van Zandt or Ronda Rousey or Misha Tate.
So they're going to push those girls more because that's what people can relate to more than a girl like Cyborg.
And I don't think I'm saying anything no one has assumed already.
And I like Cyborg the nice person.
And I don't think Cyborg is a bad person.
I think her management and the way they've handled things have completely fucked her.
And I think her going to battle with the UFC was the worst thing.
And it's not her.
joe rogan
I don't think it's her either.
And I think she is a nice person.
And every time I've ever met her...
Interacted with her.
And look, even that last fight.
And that was the thing with the Spencer fight.
Like, that people were saying that, oh, you guys, it was biased commentary.
No, it wasn't.
That girl survived.
That girl survived the onslaught.
brendan schaub
See, that's not impressive to me.
You're the greatest commentator of all time.
joe rogan
It was her 8th pro fight.
brendan schaub
But still, there were some 10-8 rounds.
Cyborg beat the fuck out of her, dude.
That fight wasn't close.
joe rogan
No, no, no.
It wasn't close.
brendan schaub
But the narrative was how tough she was.
I'm like, Cyborg's beating the ragdoll on this girl.
joe rogan
And she cut Cyborg's face wide open.
brendan schaub
With one elbow.
joe rogan
Yes.
brendan schaub
Who gives a fuck?
She got beat up the rest of the fight.
joe rogan
There's 10, 8 rounds.
The idea was that she was going to run through that girl, and she didn't.
That girl was tough as shit.
brendan schaub
It wasn't a competitive fight.
joe rogan
Well, she doesn't have striking that is on the level of...
She doesn't have power to keep Cyborg off her.
She just doesn't.
brendan schaub
Cyborg lit her up like a Christmas tree.
She did.
Though there was 10, 8 rounds, and I was like, oh, that fight's not even close.
joe rogan
No, it's not good.
brendan schaub
I feel you guys, because it's the Jon Jones thing.
When you go into a fight, it's like when Jon doesn't destroy someone, you're talking about the other guy.
And with Cyborg 2, you expect just to murk this guy.
joe rogan
Well, Tiago Santos was way closer.
I mean, that was a way closer fight.
Tiago Santos was a one-point fight.
brendan schaub
He won some rounds.
joe rogan
Well, it was a split decision.
brendan schaub
For sure.
Yeah, 100%.
joe rogan
One judge thought that Tiago won the fight.
I don't agree with that judge, but that's how close that fight was.
There was no one that thought that Spencer won that fight after it was over, but it was amazing that she was able to endure the fucking beating that Cyborg put on her.
It was incredible.
brendan schaub
It was a tough girl.
Not in the same league.
joe rogan
It was one of those fights where no one's clamoring for that fight in the first place.
Who was asking for that fight?
brendan schaub
Not me.
joe rogan
Other than her.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
I'm excited for the fight card next week in Anaheim because the cards...
I don't know if you agree with this.
The cards up to this point have been dog shit.
The main events have been good, but other than that, they've been dog shit.
But I think they're doing on purpose.
unidentified
There's so many fights.
brendan schaub
There's so many.
The main events have been great.
Other than that, they've been awful cards.
So then Anaheim is going to be amazing.
joe rogan
Who else fought this past weekend?
brendan schaub
I looked at the card.
joe rogan
I don't know what to tell you.
What was the other fights in the undercard?
There were some good fights in the undercard.
Jim Miller, Diego Sanchez.
Jim Miller and Clay Guido was wild.
Jim Miller and Clay Guido was fucking wild.
That was wild.
But in terms of title implications, yeah, this is the big one this weekend.
Because this weekend you got Yoel Romero versus Paulo Costa.
Next weekend, right?
Yoel Romero versus Paulo Costa, which is best body contest of all time.
brendan schaub
First team all diamonds.
joe rogan
Yeah, amazing fight too.
I mean, Costa is just on a fucking rampage.
brendan schaub
I bet the going snitch is just like, fellas?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
brendan schaub
Fellas?
You know the deal.
joe rogan
Yoel is the freak of all freaks.
You know, I mean, he is the freak.
brendan schaub
Host is no punk either with that body.
joe rogan
No, both of them.
Both of them are beasts.
That's an amazing fight as long as it lasts.
brendan schaub
And you got Stipe DC, which to me is so interesting.
You know what?
It wasn't that interesting to me until I came on her a few months ago and you were talking about it.
And I'm like, that is a really good fucking fight because if you go back and watch the first fight with Stipe and DC, DC wasn't dominating and then clipped him.
You know, and Stipe's had time.
Stipe's a motherfucker.
Like, that's a really good fight, man.
I don't like the long layoff for Stipe, but it's a good fight.
joe rogan
I like it.
brendan schaub
I don't like it.
joe rogan
The reason why I like it is he was coming off of that fucking crazy war with Francis Ngana where he took some big shots, particularly in the first round.
brendan schaub
How impressive is that now that we know what Francis is capable of?
joe rogan
Yeah, and Francis knocks everybody dead.
And Stipe's the only guy not just to survive Francis, but to beat him.
He figured it out like a champion, got him to the ground, neutralized all his weapons and beat him.
brendan schaub
I think Francis for Stipe would be different this time.
I think Francis made leaps and bound improvements to his grappling.
unidentified
I think so too.
brendan schaub
And confidence.
And he's not so rock star, reckless lifestyle, and his ego's in check.
Like, you sit and talk to him, like, oh, fuck, this guy's tuned in, man.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, it's, look, and he knows what's at stake now with Daniel.
You know, and Daniel knows, too.
I mean, Daniel's treating it like he's about to fight the greatest heavyweight of all time.
You know, that's his approach.
I mean, that's what he said to me behind the scenes.
But he just thinks he's better in every way.
And he thinks he's going to beat him again.
And Stipe thinks he just got clipped with that one punch.
If he doesn't get clipped with that one punch, he wins that fight.
brendan schaub
You know what?
I'll take both arguments.
Yeah.
You're right.
You're right.
Let's see what happens, man.
joe rogan
Who the fuck knows?
brendan schaub
It's such a great fight.
joe rogan
It's an amazing, amazing fight.
And then you got Pettis versus Nate Diaz.
brendan schaub
That's at 170, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
brendan schaub
That's interesting.
joe rogan
Look, Nate doesn't want to cut any weight.
And Pettis just knocked out Wonderboy.
So he's like, fuck it.
Let's do this.
brendan schaub
Pettis' last fight was against Tony Ferguson, right?
joe rogan
Wonderboy.
brendan schaub
Was it Wonderboy?
joe rogan
Yeah, knocked out Wonderboy.
Tony Ferguson was before that.
Tony Ferguson was at 55. That's right.
And Pettis' first fight at 70. I mean, look, man, when you've been starving yourself, you get to 45 and 55, and then finally you fight at 170 and you knock Wonderboy out with a Superman punch.
unidentified
Insane.
joe rogan
You've got to think, hey, maybe this is my weight class.
brendan schaub
And the only question with Nate Diaz, and I would assume Nate Diaz, or I'm sorry, Anthony Pettis is the favorite, because Nate Diaz ended up fighting a hot fucking second.
joe rogan
I don't think he is the favorite.
I bet Nate's the favorite.
brendan schaub
I bet Anthony Pettis is the favorite.
joe rogan
Yeah, let's check.
Let's check in terms of...
brendan schaub
You think Diaz would be the favorite in that?
I don't think so, dude.
With the leg kicks from Anthony Pettis?
joe rogan
Well, I think gambling.
brendan schaub
Oh, I think Pettis is the favorite.
joe rogan
Okay, maybe you might think Pettis is the favorite in terms of the way you view the fight.
But when you think about favorites, favorites depend upon who's betting for who.
And I think there's going to be a shit ton of people betting on Nate Diaz.
brendan schaub
Nate Diaz has an army behind him.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
He's a huge star.
joe rogan
He's one of the least, he's like the worst promoted superstar.
brendan schaub
Him and his brother.
joe rogan
Him and his brother.
brendan schaub
They could have made giant stars.
That's my favorite.
Minus 125?
jamie vernon
Minus 125. Nate's even money and Pettis' minus 130. As of today.
joe rogan
We'll see what happens.
brendan schaub
It's just because of the layoff.
Yeah, I agree.
You're probably right.
The money, because Nate Diaz is so famous, the money's going to go his way.
joe rogan
What else is on the card?
Pull the rest of the card up so we can see the rest of the card.
It's a great card, even on top of that.
What else we got here?
brendan schaub
Boy, Derek Brunson's fighting.
I mean, he gets a little dicey after those top three, but I feel you.
joe rogan
But there's probably more in the ESPN card.
Let's see what else you got with the ESPN card.
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Oh, my boy, Corey Sandahagen.
I'm telling you, man.
joe rogan
Versus Assuncao.
brendan schaub
That's great.
For him, he beats him.
See, to me, when I talk about guys who are gatekeepers, I don't believe in the term gatekeeper.
We're like, oh, you get the top ten.
The guy's in the twilight of his career.
To me, gatekeepers, you beat him, you get title shot.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Asuncao's that guy.
If you beat him, you've got to fight one or the champ.
Number one or champ.
And that's where Sandhagen's right at.
joe rogan
What did you think about Marlon Marais submitting Asuncao?
I mean, that was pretty crazy.
brendan schaub
Amazing.
But then how much did you learn from Marlon Marais' last fight where he lost, where he kind of got broke, man?
I thought...
joe rogan
I wonder what was happening there.
I wonder if it's stress of the fight, if that's what made him fatigued.
brendan schaub
Here's what you've got to pay attention to, is when Mark Henry, who's to me the best coach in MMA, him or Faraz, when he's in the corner, and he must have seen a trainer or something, because he goes, think about your mom.
Don't give up.
Think about your fucking mom, what took you to come here.
When a coach has to pull out that fucking yellow card...
After the first round, he's thinking, yeah, that's why I'm like, oh, he's quit in practice before.
Now, Mark, text me if I'm wrong, but I assume that he's seen some sort of quit in him in practice.
When you've got to think about your mom after the first round?
You go 0-100?
joe rogan
Think about your mom's a rough one.
brendan schaub
That means he saw something that he's seen in practice before and went, oh fuck, there it is.
No, no, no.
Dude, remember, think about your fucking mom what it took to get here.
It still didn't work.
joe rogan
The crazy thing is, if you saw that first round, you thought Marlon Marais is the best fighter in the world.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
You're like, my God, Cejudo doesn't even belong in here with him.
brendan schaub
I thought he was so screwed.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I'm like, Cejudo's fucked.
brendan schaub
How good is Cejudo?
joe rogan
He's getting his legs destroyed.
brendan schaub
He had an injury?
joe rogan
Unstoppable belief in himself.
Unstoppable.
He just believes in himself past reality.
brendan schaub
He's arguing right now that he's pound for pound best in the world because gold medalist, then two-division champion.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
You got some work to do, though.
Mighty Mouse says, hold my little beer.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
I beat a shitload of dudes.
joe rogan
Hold my little beer?
brendan schaub
They're tiny.
They're tiny.
You know this.
unidentified
They're tiny.
joe rogan
Like one of those little...
Little fucking Diet Coke cans.
unidentified
Yeah, those little things.
joe rogan
Those little tiny baby ones you get when you go to a kid's party.
Fuck yeah.
It's not a good argument in terms of him being the best of all time, but in terms of being one of the greatest combat sport athletes of all time, for sure.
Olympic gold medalist and then UFC champion in two different weight classes.
I mean, fuck.
brendan schaub
But the thing about that Kayla Harrison, who's a two-time gold medalist, if she were able to get a championship or in PFL, come over to the UFC, two gold medals?
That's nuts, dude.
joe rogan
Sure, but she will not be fighting the same caliber of fighters that Henry Cejudo fought.
brendan schaub
No, that's just where the females are at right now.
joe rogan
That's just where they're at.
Unless she fights Valentina Shevchenko or Amanda Nunes.
brendan schaub
She trains with Amanda.
joe rogan
And Amanda's going to retire by the time she gets to UFC. Amanda Nunes and Valentina Shevchenko are as good as any fucking male fighter on the planet.
Especially Valentina.
brendan schaub
They're striking, for sure.
joe rogan
Valentina is so technical.
brendan schaub
She's an assassin.
joe rogan
She's so technical.
brendan schaub
What's Amanda Nunes do now?
Because her cyborg was a fight.
I still think they make the cyborg fight, by the way.
joe rogan
They absolutely can make that cyborg fight.
brendan schaub
Don't you think Dana's going to do it?
joe rogan
Well, he said that he would do it.
brendan schaub
He was like, I'll do it.
unidentified
Fucking call me.
joe rogan
He said, I offered her a one-fight contract.
If she wants to do it, she can do it.
But she does not want to fight Amanda Nunes.
Look, Dana's smart.
All that shit that he said.
brendan schaub
Oh, he knows it's going to get back to her.
joe rogan
She calls me up right now and she says she wants to fight Amanda Nunes.
I'll make the fight.
He goes, but she's not going to do it.
So he said, if she calls me up, I will make the fight.
brendan schaub
Putting the ball in her court.
joe rogan
Yes.
brendan schaub
The only reason it's not going to happen is because of you.
joe rogan
Look, she's got to be devastated by that video.
Whoever made that video, I don't know who it is.
You don't know who it is.
brendan schaub
I don't.
joe rogan
But it wasn't her.
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
She didn't make that stupid fucking video.
brendan schaub
No, she can barely tweet.
What are we talking about?
joe rogan
She doesn't tweet.
Her boyfriend tweets for her.
brendan schaub
It's so exhausting.
It's just complaining nonstop.
unidentified
It's so obvious.
joe rogan
But it's so obvious it's not her, too.
It's so dumb.
brendan schaub
And then she'll post on, like, Sunday, like, hey, everybody, what's your favorite ice cream flavor?
I just want to tweet her to go, fuck you.
How about that?
My favorite flavor is eat shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's Anadrol 50. That's my favorite flavor.
unidentified
The whole thing is fucking, the whole thing is ridiculous.
joe rogan
Like, you can't have your boyfriend.
brendan schaub
Whatever, stack the rocks on.
unidentified
It's my favorite.
joe rogan
Yeah, how about piss test that guy?
Come out green.
brendan schaub
Just pissing like a ninja turtle.
joe rogan
It's like radiator fluid.
The fuck is in you, bro?
brendan schaub
Lime green like the Ferrari?
joe rogan
Man, when we were kids, there was no 50-year-old action heroes.
They didn't look like that.
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
How the fuck do you look like that?
brendan schaub
Look at Sylvester Stallone these days, dude.
I do a horrible Sven Schloen impression in my bed.
joe rogan
What is he doing now?
He's doing something.
brendan schaub
Isn't he rewriting fucking Rocky 9 or some shit?
joe rogan
I think he's doing a TV show with like Dolph Lundgren.
They're doing a TV show together.
brendan schaub
Dude, you gotta appreciate the hustle, man.
What is he, 70-something?
joe rogan
He's a thousand years old.
He's still swinging for the bleachers.
He doesn't give a fuck.
brendan schaub
Like an Italian sausage.
joe rogan
Myself and Bob O. Productions are so proud to announce this incredible new show called The Internationale!
It's going to be fantastic.
Working with my old hard-punching friend Dolph fans.
brendan schaub
My hard-punching friend.
joe rogan
His Instagram is Dolph Fans.
How weird.
Dolph underscore fans.
They're working on a new TV series together and we can't wait.
Who said that?
brendan schaub
I can definitely wait.
Hard path for your boy here.
Hard path.
joe rogan
The action stars are collaborating again.
brendan schaub
Dude, they just don't give it up, do they?
I will say this, though.
That motherfucker with the Rockies, even the newer ones, like Creed and stuff, he's doing well.
Or did you see the escape with him and Arnold?
They're both like 100 years old.
joe rogan
I didn't see that.
brendan schaub
Oh, it's fucking good.
They both got beards.
It's fucking good, man.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
It's a good movie?
brendan schaub
Dude, they don't miss.
When they make movies...
Now, that's going to be terrible.
But their movies are fucking...
joe rogan
Why is that going to be terrible?
brendan schaub
Come on!
Dolph Lundgren?
jamie vernon
They've done the third one, I think.
unidentified
Or maybe fourth.
This is escape number five!
joe rogan
The extraction!
He's still jacked.
Look at him.
Look at his forearms.
brendan schaub
Hey, remember when he got...
joe rogan
This has those forearms!
brendan schaub
Oh, dude.
Have you seen his Instagram?
He's shredded, man.
jamie vernon
Let me see some recent pictures of him.
brendan schaub
He's fucking jacked.
I wish I could do the impression.
joe rogan
Go to his Instagram.
brendan schaub
Did you see when he got caught in Australia, though?
joe rogan
Bam, son.
brendan schaub
Oh, his daughter is a smoke show.
She's of age, dude.
Be cool.
unidentified
Jack!
joe rogan
Jacked.
brendan schaub
Jacked.
jamie vernon
Look at these weird drawing lines on it, like someone accidentally drew the screenshot thing on it and didn't take it off before they posted it.
joe rogan
What is that?
He can't see.
brendan schaub
He's 90, so he didn't know, bro.
joe rogan
He probably posted himself and can't see what he wrote on it.
Is that good?
brendan schaub
He probably signed it.
He thought he was autographing his own fucking Instagram.
joe rogan
Take a look at this.
Is it good?
Let me see some photos of him where he's like...
brendan schaub
Go to the one where he's walking an alligator at his daughter's birthday party.
There it is, far right.
It's awkward.
He's stiff.
You know how you said I was stiff?
joe rogan
He's so stiff.
Like physically stiff?
unidentified
...my dog out for a walk, and I don't even use the leash.
But then again, I have my friend here.
joe rogan
He's got a porcupine and an alligator at his house.
unidentified
Oh yeah, he looks a little awkward moving.
joe rogan
But you gotta think, all those years of lifting weights and he broke his neck when he was filming The Expendables.
He's got bolts and shit on his neck.
You ever see it?
Bro, he's got his neck fused.
Like, several of his discs blew out filming The Expendables.
brendan schaub
You're fucking right, Diddy, because you're 90 jumping out of planes and shit, dude.
joe rogan
No, someone threw him into a wall.
He was doing his own stunts.
brendan schaub
He's a thousand years old.
Someone threw him into a wall.
Fuck.
joe rogan
But there's never been a guy as old as him that literally pulls off doing, like, when he smashes somebody in a movie, you're not going, no way.
It's not like when Bob Barker beat up Adam Sandler and Happy Gilmore.
The price is wrong, bitch.
It's not like that.
It's like a guy fucking a guy up.
brendan schaub
Yeah, you're right.
joe rogan
Like, you buy it.
brendan schaub
Yeah, you're right.
joe rogan
He's still jacked.
Like, he'll still fuck people up.
brendan schaub
Hell yeah, he will.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
No, he's a legend, man.
Why are you smiling at that?
He's just doing the damn thing.
joe rogan
How long can he do it, though?
Will you buy it when he's 90?
Is he still going to be able to fuck people up when he's 90?
brendan schaub
Clint Eastwood's doing the damn thing.
joe rogan
That's true.
brendan schaub
However, he owes me fucking $7.99 for renting the Mule.
That was a piece of shit.
Well, he's 94, directing, starring in his own movie.
joe rogan
It's not good.
brendan schaub
It's tough.
It's just boring.
It's him driving down the highway.
joe rogan
That's it?
brendan schaub
That's it!
joe rogan
Wasn't he supposed to be a drug mule in that movie?
Isn't that what the...
brendan schaub
Yeah, the best part is, though, he gets to the cartel and then they just have these smoke shows fuck his brains out.
joe rogan
Fuck his brains out?
brendan schaub
Yeah, and he's like 90. Really?
unidentified
Yeah, it's pretty cool.
joe rogan
He probably wrote that in.
brendan schaub
Yeah, he was like, uh...
Well, yeah, he wrote and directed it.
joe rogan
It's really important that I fuck.
brendan schaub
Dude, he's 90. At least, right?
I think he's 92, right?
He's killing it.
joe rogan
And he still bangs out?
brendan schaub
Well, he wrote it in the script.
joe rogan
He got divorced.
I want freedom.
brendan schaub
He has a bunch of kids, man.
joe rogan
He's got a bunch of kids.
I've had one of his sons on, Scott.
brendan schaub
I know.
joe rogan
Nice guy.
Looks like him, too.
Looks like a young Clint Eastwood.
brendan schaub
He does look like him.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
You gotta imagine if Clint Eastwood's your dad, not around a lot.
Probably not teaching how to play catch and shit.
He's starring fucking whatever the movie he's doing.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's the problem.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, when you're doing movies, too, you're off for months.
Months and months at a time.
brendan schaub
And I don't know.
It's just me calculating in my head.
I know how busy I am.
But then you look at the rock schedule.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Dude, go home!
joe rogan
Well, he probably brings his family with him.
brendan schaub
Does he?
joe rogan
I mean, I would imagine you'd have him.
unidentified
Does he?
joe rogan
I don't know.
I don't know.
brendan schaub
I don't know either.
joe rogan
How do you not?
I mean, you know...
brendan schaub
You're the rock.
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
You're the rock.
joe rogan
I couldn't do it.
I would need my kids to be with me.
brendan schaub
Oh, I would die.
If I'm on the road longer than four days, I'd die.
I don't do well.
joe rogan
When I did the only two movies that I've ever done, the Kevin James movies, the Here Comes the Boom, I brought my family with me.
I'm like, I'm not doing this.
brendan schaub
How long was it?
joe rogan
Two weeks.
Three weeks?
Something like that?
brendan schaub
I can't do it, man.
joe rogan
Too long.
Yeah.
brendan schaub
It's my third whiskey, by the way.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's just the fucking sadness and the solemnness.
brendan schaub
Dude, being by yourself?
joe rogan
FaceTiming your family.
It's like, ugh.
brendan schaub
Oh, when my son goes, Daddy, where are you?
I'm trying to describe it.
He's like, what?
joe rogan
I miss you.
Yeah, those little voices.
I miss you so much.
brendan schaub
Oh, man.
unidentified
Oh, boy.
brendan schaub
Can't do it.
I gotta get back.
joe rogan
That's why I only do weekends.
When I go on the road, I do weekends.
brendan schaub
Yeah, you're at a level now where it's perfect, man.
That's hashtag goals as kids.
Hashtag inspo is when you can do one or two huge shows a month so you're not missing stuff at home.
I was thinking about this.
Oh, go ahead.
joe rogan
No, go ahead.
brendan schaub
You were thinking about this?
When my son starts playing sports, I don't want to miss a game.
But when I'm on the road, Thursday, I'm going to have to figure it out.
Hopefully, by the time he starts doing that, I'm at a level where I don't have to do so many shows every week.
I don't know.
I'm trying to figure it out.
I couldn't sleep the other night thinking about it.
joe rogan
You know, there's another thing, too, when you think about it.
When do you retire?
Do you want to be George Carlin and die in a hotel room somewhere?
brendan schaub
You know better than me, Joe.
You tell me, brother.
joe rogan
I don't know.
I'm thinking about it because I'm older than you, too.
I'm going to be 52 in August.
brendan schaub
But you've never been better.
I know.
joe rogan
That's the problem.
brendan schaub
Experience is the name of the game.
You've never been better.
joe rogan
It's experience, but it's also focus, discipline, enthusiasm.
All those things haven't waned.
brendan schaub
But you're also not out of touch.
You ever see some old comedians?
I don't say names, but I see them do stand up like, Oh, bro.
Open up fucking Twitter.
You're talking about fucking Jersey Shore.
That show hasn't been relevant in seven years, dumbass.
Or they're just not current, you know?
They have no idea.
joe rogan
I think...
Look, stand-up comedy is a constant pursuit.
I took a couple days off from this weekend, right?
I did this weekend...
With Chappelle, I took Sunday and Monday off.
And then Tuesday, I got to get back on the horse again.
And you got to really get back on the horse.
You got to go over the notes.
You can't half-ass it.
You got to really prepare.
brendan schaub
And you've been doing it for how long?
joe rogan
Forever!
brendan schaub
Forever.
joe rogan
You got to come out guns blazing every time.
And then, you know, obviously I'm gearing up for this weekend.
I got a sold-out show at an arena in Portland on Friday night.
brendan schaub
You're at arenas, bro.
Arenas.
unidentified
Arenas.
joe rogan
I'm playing where basketball teams play.
I'm just talking shit.
unidentified
It's so cool.
brendan schaub
Is Ian going with you for this one?
joe rogan
Yeah, and Allie.
Allie McCoskey.
brendan schaub
She's great.
Love Allie.
Love Allie.
joe rogan
She's a monster.
She's like 22. I love watching her get better.
She's so smart.
brendan schaub
She's a beast, man.
joe rogan
She works hard.
She works hard.
She was with me last night at the Improv.
She's with me tonight at the Ice House.
She grinds.
Kids always grinding.
brendan schaub
Dude, Derek Poston is my feature, and he's been with me for a while.
He's a comedy store.
joe rogan
He's hilarious.
brendan schaub
He's great.
He's from Memphis, and we did shows in Nashville, and his parents came to the show.
A, his dad was white as fuck, so I was a little confused, and his mom was super dark.
That's whatever, but I was just like, how's this happen?
I felt like a proud dad telling them how good he's doing.
I started tearing up like, this guy, man.
The dad was like, alright, man, be cool.
joe rogan
He's got real potential.
brendan schaub
I'm talking killer, Joe.
There's guys, friends of ours that are comedians, who brought Derek on the road and he crushed so hard, they don't bring him anymore.
When they told him, you're coming with me, bro.
That's how I met him.
You're coming with me.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
He's been doing comedy like three years.
brendan schaub
I think he's been doing six or seven.
joe rogan
Really?
But I mean, there's a small amount of time for you to be scared of him.
brendan schaub
Yeah, he's a monster, man.
joe rogan
Well, you know, that's nice.
We need more.
I'm a big encourager of young comedians.
We need more.
We need as many as we can.
You know what's really funny?
I had work with me at the improv the other night.
It's Jimmy O. Yang.
brendan schaub
Oh, he's amazing!
joe rogan
Oh, I worked with him at the comedy store, rather.
I saw him at the improv, and then I had him come and do a set.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I brought him up.
I went after him at the improv, and I was like, he destroyed all seven people.
joe rogan
Funny dude, too.
brendan schaub
Yeah, he's amazing.
Right.
joe rogan
He's a really good guy too.
And funny off stage.
Just a fun dude.
brendan schaub
He was so funny.
We were at the improv and we're chilling in the back talking.
And this random Asian dude comes up to me and goes, Are you Chinese?
And he goes, No, I'm actually not.
And he goes through this whole Asian thing and the guy goes, I fucking hate that man.
He goes, Asian people, dude.
It was so funny.
joe rogan
What nationality is Jimmy?
brendan schaub
I think he's Korean.
I think.
Jimmy, don't kill me.
I think he's Korean.
joe rogan
Fuck this up.
brendan schaub
I hope not.
I got a bunch of Asian people that work for me.
I mess it up all the time.
joe rogan
Do you think Asian people do that with white people?
Like, are you Portuguese?
brendan schaub
I don't think so.
It's pretty obvious, right?
joe rogan
Are you Polish?
brendan schaub
Pretty obvious.
joe rogan
Are you Polish?
brendan schaub
Are you Swedish?
joe rogan
What are you?
brendan schaub
Never.
unidentified
There you go.
brendan schaub
Oh, you're white.
jamie vernon
He's born in Hong Kong, according to Wikipedia.
brendan schaub
Fuck me.
It's tough, dude.
It's tough.
I got a Filipino that works for me, and I got a Korean.
joe rogan
Have you been watching those fucking protests on TV? Where at?
Hong Kong.
brendan schaub
Oh, no, they've been going nuts, dude.
And they're making changes, aren't they?
joe rogan
It's been going on forever.
brendan schaub
Yeah, it has been going on for a hot second.
joe rogan
The streets are filled with people.
brendan schaub
I've been avoiding the news.
With the mass shootings, nothing gets me into depression like mass shootings, man.
joe rogan
No, it's a bummer, man.
It's a bummer, and it's like, you know, I had Bernie Sanders on yesterday.
brendan schaub
That's what scares me even more.
When you had him on, you go, Bernie, what are you going to do with this?
joe rogan
No answers.
No one has an answer.
brendan schaub
No one.
Bernie Sanders is smart as fuck.
joe rogan
Banning assault rifles and all the NRA people are like, good luck with that.
brendan schaub
See, but here's my thing.
I know you got a big pro gun.
Oh my God.
joe rogan
We're looking at a photo of Hong Kong right now and it is the most insane crowd of people that are filling the street.
brendan schaub
It looks like a beach sand of people.
joe rogan
It's like the women's march times a million on steroids.
brendan schaub
Oh, that women's march was weak as fuck.
No, this is serious shit here.
joe rogan
There's no pussy hats there.
brendan schaub
No.
joe rogan
They're ready to kill.
So what is the problem?
jamie vernon
The real anti-extradition bill that people are...
brendan schaub
Oh, because they'd extradite people to China to get prosecuted, correct?
joe rogan
Is that what it is?
brendan schaub
Yeah, and they don't want that shit.
joe rogan
Okay, okay.
Process series of ongoing demonstrations in Hong Kong against the Fugitive Offenders and Mutual Legal Assistance in Criminal Matters Legislation Amendment bill proposed by the government of Hong Kong.
This legislation was proposed by the Security Bureau in 2019 in response to a murder that occurred in Taiwan.
The previous year, which the suspect had fled to Hong Kong as a special administrative region, Hong Kong is jurisdictionally distinct from mainland China and maintains a separate governing and legal system under the one country, two systems principle.
The regional government was unable to transfer the fugitive to Taiwanese authorities, citing a lack of formal extradition arrangements between the two jurisdictions.
brendan schaub
Hey, Hong Kong, pick your battles, bro.
joe rogan
If enacted the bill would allow local authorities to detain and extradite people who are wanted in countries or territories, then Hong Kong does not have extradition agreements with, including mainland China.
Well, the problem is that Hong Kong, until certain...
Yeah, well, Hong Kong was controlled by Britain, right, until a certain amount of time, and then they gave it back to China, and the people that live there are very unhappy with the shift from, I think it was Great Britain.
brendan schaub
God, they're pissed.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Talk about, man, you got the dedication.
joe rogan
China is very, it's so rigid.
I mean, they're so authoritarian and scary.
brendan schaub
You're lucky Cal's not here.
You have a three-hour podcast.
He went, did you say Hong Kong and China?
Let me break it down for you.
Yeah.
Here's my thing back to the mass shootings and the gun control with the semi-automatic weapons.
If they said, hey man, if we get rid of semi-automatic weapons, there won't be any more mass shootings like this.
Don't you think in general most people are like, yeah, cool, take them, man.
Are they that fun?
joe rogan
No.
brendan schaub
Are they that cool to shoot?
joe rogan
People would not do that.
brendan schaub
Why do you need them?
joe rogan
It doesn't matter whether you need them.
brendan schaub
It's so stupid, Joe.
joe rogan
Listen, it is stupid.
brendan schaub
It's a real problem, man.
Kids are dying left and right.
joe rogan
Okay, but you're looking at it the wrong way.
You think?
Yes, in terms of the way they're looking at it.
They're not going to say, okay, you take them.
Because their idea is the government eventually wants all your guns.
And they're going to start with assault weapons and then work their way to all weapons.
What if they just stop that assault?
brendan schaub
You're looking at worst case scenario.
What if it's just assault because of the mass shootings?
joe rogan
Because they don't think that they should be able to do that.
They think that the government does not have the ability to take away your guns.
brendan schaub
But we have a problem.
joe rogan
The problem is crazy people shooting people.
The problem is not guns shooting people.
So what are you going to do?
You're going to go after those people that have the guns that have never done anything?
Well, they are going to say, well, the Second Amendment protects my right to keep and bear arms.
brendan schaub
Yeah, the amendment's written in the 1700s.
That hasn't changed.
joe rogan
It's true.
brendan schaub
The thing is, though, is if you can, hey, we have a problem.
If we can get rid of these for now, in the future, we're good to go.
joe rogan
What I'm saying is the NRA... Don't you think most Americans would be like, yeah, you're right, man.
brendan schaub
We don't need them that bad.
No, no chance.
That's mind-blowing to me.
joe rogan
It is.
brendan schaub
If people went, hey, Brendan, Ferraris are killing people left and fucking right, dude.
You've got to get off the road with this thing.
So many people are dying, but get rid of the fucking Ferrari.
joe rogan
Yeah, but that's a simplistic perception of what's actually going on.
No one's going to think about it that way.
The people that don't have guns are going to think about it that way.
But the people that are Second Amendment enthusiasts are going to say, this is a slippery slope.
And if you give them any ground, like Joe Biden has been saying, we're going to take your assault weapons.
This is one of the things that Joe Biden has said publicly.
And this is one of the reasons why the people that are pro-Second Amendment are never going to vote for him.
They think that if you give in in any way, shape, or form, it's a slippery slope, and they're going to take away pistols.
I mean, California's already reduced the size of the magazines, but that actually, I think that was voted back.
I think that was ruled to be unconstitutional.
They had limited magazines.
You only have a magazine of six rounds or ten rounds or something like that.
No, it was 10. I think they're trying to make it lower.
But that has been reversed, I'm pretty sure.
brendan schaub
Here's my thing with the mental health.
Everyone goes, well, America has a mental health problem.
There's a mental health problem all around the world.
We just have a gun problem.
joe rogan
That's not true.
brendan schaub
You think it's just here?
joe rogan
The mental health problem in the United States is extremely exacerbated by the use of psych drugs.
There's way, way, way more psych drugs.
brendan schaub
God, Europe has problems too, brother.
joe rogan
They don't have nearly as many prescribed drugs in Europe as they do.
brendan schaub
Are you sure?
joe rogan
Yes.
SSRIs.
brendan schaub
I mean, you talk to Bernie Sanders.
joe rogan
I believe you.
No, I do know.
I do know because I talk to psychologists.
brendan schaub
Yeah, you've probably done your research.
joe rogan
It's this pharmaceutical lobby in this country.
Look, obviously, not everybody on psych drugs is out murdering people.
The problem is many, many, many layers.
There's people that are abused.
There's people that grow up with a lot of violence.
There's people that grow up and, you know, they're psychotic.
They have psych drugs.
The psych drugs are disassociates.
brendan schaub
Can't some people just be bad apples, though?
Like, does it always have to be a mental illness?
Like, all these shooters just happen to have mental illness?
All of them?
Some just don't suck at life?
joe rogan
Maybe some suck at life, but almost all of them.
I mean, in the high 90% are on psych medication.
brendan schaub
Oh, yeah?
joe rogan
Yes.
And coming from someone who was murdered by his wife when she was on an SSRI and on cocaine, people, when they're on those drugs, it's a varying reaction.
And suicidal thoughts are very common, as well as homicidal thoughts, very common.
And also, the feeling that things aren't real.
The people that I've talked to that were on SSRIs that got off of them, one of the things that they all say is that nothing seemed real.
unidentified
That's crazy.
joe rogan
No matter what you did.
Like a video game.
brendan schaub
Like a simulation.
joe rogan
Yes.
brendan schaub
Everything felt blank.
And those kids are...
joe rogan
Yeah, everything felt flat.
I think that's a big problem.
For sure, a crazy person with a semi-automatic weapon is a real problem, and you would want to take a semi-automatic weapon away from a crazy person.
But the problem is, if there's a guy like you, who has a semi-automatic weapon, and you have a ranch somewhere, and you're just shooting coyotes and fucking metal targets that are out in the distance, and you don't harm anybody, and you're a good person...
You are technically protected by the Second Amendment.
Take it.
Okay, but then what about your pistol?
Should you take your pistol?
What about your shotgun?
What if you get a shotgun and you fucking keep reloading it?
brendan schaub
But why not just automatic?
But again, with shotgun, they're not going to kill as many people.
joe rogan
Depends on whether or not the people are armed.
If the people are not armed and they're running around a mall, you can kill a lot of fucking people with a shotgun.
brendan schaub
Not as many as the automatic.
joe rogan
Yes.
Maybe.
Yeah.
Maybe.
I mean...
brendan schaub
Here's what the scary thing to me.
You're one of the smartest people I know.
Bertie Sanders is a smart motherfucker.
He lives in this world.
When you said, what are we going to do?
His answer, I was like, that was as good as mine.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Fuck, dude.
joe rogan
You're right.
There's no one out there...
That's what scared me of it.
It's a good thing to be scared because there's no one out there who has a shining light.
Like one answer, you're like, that's it!
brendan schaub
The smartest minds in the world.
And I'm listening, I'm like, well, I've thought of that.
That's not going to work for me, dude.
joe rogan
The Joe Biden answer is the dumbest answer.
We're going to take away your guns.
You're going to have a civil war.
unidentified
All guns?
joe rogan
You can't take away people's guns.
unidentified
No, it's not going to happen.
joe rogan
He was saying take away assault guns and assault rifles.
You're not going to do that.
They're not going to give them up.
It's not constitutional.
brendan schaub
Let's say they do do it, Joe.
Let's say they do do it.
There's too many out already.
Right?
There's too many on the market.
joe rogan
There's 400 million guns in this country.
brendan schaub
And how many people?
There's 300,000 people in this country.
joe rogan
300 million.
There's 100 million more guns than there are people.
brendan schaub
Okay, so if you stop the manufacture of automatic guns right now, there's still 100,000 more than people out there.
joe rogan
And then you'd have to go get them.
So you'd have to go door to door and search people's houses.
That's what everyone's thinking will happen.
brendan schaub
That's not realistic.
Like the purge or some shit.
joe rogan
How else are you going to get those guns from people?
brendan schaub
That's clearly not the answer, is it?
That's never going to happen.
joe rogan
No, it's not the answer.
brendan schaub
No, no one's going to give you those guns.
So that's not the answer.
joe rogan
I don't know what the answer is.
brendan schaub
I don't either.
joe rogan
But the crazy thing is, if you look at the mass shootings across the world, the most in other countries, you see like two or three.
brendan schaub
I know.
For us, it's over 300 already this year.
joe rogan
I think it's 270-something.
brendan schaub
And a mass shooting is three or more.
Yeah.
The other thing to me that's interesting is I used to always think it was kids who are in their basement and they're on Reddit.
They're these losers and they have nothing to live for.
Probably true.
joe rogan
Some of them.
brendan schaub
Most nine out of ten.
But then you got homeboy like over in, where was it, Ohio, who had, these chicks are coming out.
He's banging a few girls.
Had a bunch of girls.
They're like, man, we saw signs.
He was always talking about mass shootings.
He had a rape list.
joe rogan
He had a rape list in high school.
Yeah, they all thought he was really fucked up.
But he was also a Elizabeth Warren supporter who wrote posts about the need for gun control after different mass shootings.
I mean, he was a real left-wing guy.
And this is something that the media is ignoring because it doesn't fit the narrative.
Because the narrative is they're all white, male, right-wing.
brendan schaub
And he was left-wing.
joe rogan
He was left-wing.
Like, yeah, he's a leftist.
I mean, he wrote leftist, he, him as his pronouns on his page.
brendan schaub
Wow.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, he was...
But it has nothing to do with him.
He's a psychopath.
brendan schaub
They're saying the kid that they caught...
God, I don't want to talk about mass shootings.
Buns me out when did after this.
We'll move on to something else.
But...
They're saying the kid they got in El Paso, the one who ended up dying, I wish he did die.
But he was saying that it shows no remorse.
He's like, fuck yeah, I did it, man.
I'm like, are you kidding me, dude?
You killed kids.
He's like, you're damn right.
joe rogan
He shot a baby.
brendan schaub
How crazy is that?
joe rogan
Yeah.
No.
brendan schaub
And he's going to get a cushy fucking room.
He's living better than most of these fucking immigrants that come here and get detained.
It's insane, man.
joe rogan
They should definitely kill him.
brendan schaub
They should torture him, man.
joe rogan
Just kill him.
brendan schaub
Just a quick...
joe rogan
It's not fair, man.
But having him suffer doesn't help anybody.
It really doesn't.
But having him around doesn't help anybody either.
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
You're not going to reform that.
brendan schaub
Here's the good thing, though.
In his manifesto, he went, hopefully someone gets me and shoots me so I don't have to go through the legal system.
That's way worse.
It'd be way better to die real quick.
So at least he doesn't want this.
That's a good thing.
Why is it all white, dudes?
joe rogan
White people are crazy, bro.
Charlemagne actually put that, that it was all these white guys, that white guys are the biggest threat in terms of terrorism in America, and Instagram took his post down.
brendan schaub
How crazy is that?
joe rogan
They're more of a threat than ISIS. But he had photos of all these different white guys who committed mass murders.
And as a white guy, I'm like, yeah.
brendan schaub
Yeah, me too.
I went, no shit, Charlemagne.
Yeah, you right.
joe rogan
But they took his post down.
brendan schaub
How crazy is that?
joe rogan
But then they put it back up.
brendan schaub
You're damn right they did.
Charlemagne has some power, man.
joe rogan
Well, he made his case, and he's correct.
He had literal photographs of all the different people that were white that have committed mass murders.
brendan schaub
They just look like shit.
joe rogan
And named the last time.
The last time there was a black guy that committed a mass murder was those fucking guys in D.C. They were shooting people out of their car.
brendan schaub
Are you talking about the D.C. sniper?
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
It was a son and a father, yeah?
joe rogan
It was a guy and a younger guy.
I don't think the younger guy was his son.
brendan schaub
That's a serial killer though, yeah?
joe rogan
Yes.
brendan schaub
Not so much a mask.
joe rogan
He was doing one at a time.
brendan schaub
Yeah, he wasn't killing three.
But that was scary because people were just at gas stations getting murked by this fucking sniper in his van.
joe rogan
Well, no, he had a car.
And he had a sniper's nest.
He would shoot out of the trunk.
brendan schaub
Oh, that's right.
joe rogan
So he had a hole in the trunk where he put the barrel out of the trunk.
That's scary, dude.
Yeah, I mean, you would just see people in the distance and just unload.
brendan schaub
Dude, have you seen the documentary, like Terrorist John, Isis John?
joe rogan
It's a documentary on HBO. Oh, no, I heard that's crazy.
Jihadi John.
brendan schaub
Jihadi John.
joe rogan
Yeah, I heard it's crazy.
brendan schaub
Good fucking memory.
joe rogan
Yeah, I heard it's crazy.
Did you see it?
brendan schaub
Oh, it's fucking good, dude.
It's crazy.
This was like a normal dude, grew up in England.
He was a refugee, right, from I think Syria or something like that, somewhere over in the Middle East.
Comes to England, played soccer, football as they call it, grew up normal, had friends, was just a normal dude, and then just went freaking...
joe rogan
What happened to him?
They had these girls that went over from England, too, and they joined ISIS, and they're trying to get out, and now they can't.
brendan schaub
Yeah, because they got over, and then the homies would run a train on you at 1 p.m.
every day.
That's the way it goes.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
You fucking morons.
joe rogan
And you gotta dress like Jabba the Hutt.
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Dress like a ninja for the rest of your life.
joe rogan
I wonder what they thought it was.
brendan schaub
How stupid do you have to be?
joe rogan
You gotta be pretty stupid.
brendan schaub
What the fuck were you thinking?
You know, dressed like a ninja, and the homie's going to run a train on you every day.
What do you think you're going to do?
Front and center with an automatic rifle firing at Americans, you morons?
joe rogan
I wonder what they thought.
I wonder what they thought they were fighting for good.
Imagine if that's your daughter.
unidentified
Your daughter goes and joins ISIS. See, I was thinking about this.
brendan schaub
The Manson murders.
Why I'm so into it, I have no idea.
I've got problems.
But the Manson murders.
Those girls were like 17 and 19. Imagine when you were 17 and 19. Well, they were also homeless.
joe rogan
So you're dealing with people that were probably- A little crazy.
Crazy.
Abused.
That was their family, right?
This was like the first time they had ever had like real family.
brendan schaub
And they didn't know what exactly they were going to do until they got to the house.
Then they're like, all right, I guess one girl dips out.
The other two are like, all right, let's do this.
joe rogan
How crazy was Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, their depiction of it?
brendan schaub
That twist.
joe rogan
You saw that movie, man?
brendan schaub
Loved it.
I cannot get enough of the 60s.
I want a 68 Porsche.
joe rogan
It was great in that movie.
brendan schaub
Amazing.
unidentified
Amazing.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I mean, Brad Pitt was great in that movie.
Leonardo DiCaprio was great in that movie.
brendan schaub
He should win an Oscar.
joe rogan
They were both amazing.
brendan schaub
How about the way they depicted Bruce Lee?
joe rogan
That was fucked up.
brendan schaub
Was it?
Was it?
joe rogan
Was it not?
brendan schaub
I don't know.
I'm sure Bruce Lee's daughter's going to jump all over us.
Bruce Lee was a philosopher.
Was he a fighter?
Was he really that much of a badass?
No.
I don't know.
I've heard he is.
I've heard from people like, no, he's never been in a lot of fights.
I've heard both.
So what I thought was great is Quentin Tarantino put his perspective on it.
I've heard that narrative and I loved it because I've seen it both ways.
joe rogan
What narrative have you heard?
brendan schaub
Where he wasn't that much of a badass.
He doesn't have a crazy record.
joe rogan
Yeah, but it wasn't just that.
He was a dummy in the movie.
And the problem was, in real life, there's no evidence that he was ever an egomaniac dummy.
He was a very interesting guy.
And very insightful.
brendan schaub
And I believe he was a philosopher, and he's brilliant.
But when it comes to the actual toughness, we don't know.
We don't know for sure.
You've heard that narrative before, right?
joe rogan
What narrative?
brendan schaub
That he's not an actual tough guy.
joe rogan
Well, what I had heard was that at the time, he was incredibly innovative in terms of martial arts, but he didn't really fight.
And he had a sparring match once at a tournament, and he had some street fights, but he wasn't like Jon Jones.
brendan schaub
But then I've also heard that he was this badass and fought other dudes from dojos, and he's amazing.
I'm somewhere in the middle.
I went, oh, I bet he makes a vault.
joe rogan
That was not the problem, though.
The problem was they made him look like a buffoon.
There's no evidence that he's a buffoon.
brendan schaub
I don't have a problem.
It's a movie everyone's crying about.
joe rogan
But it's a movie about a real person who has a real legacy and a bunch of people who love him.
brendan schaub
Oh, come on, Joe.
It's a fucking Quentin Tarantino movie.
I don't want to spoil the ending, but the ending, too, that's not real.
joe rogan
Well, that's true.
Then they had a totally different ending.
brendan schaub
You're living in make-believe.
No one's real in that.
Except for, obviously, the ranch is real where they went.
Charles Manson, who's barely in it.
The Manson family.
But everyone's kind of dumb.
Even Leonardo DiCaprio, his character's a bit of a dumbass.
joe rogan
Yeah, but that real guy might have been a dumbass.
I mean, we don't know.
We don't know that about Bruce Lee either.
Yeah, but there's a lot of evidence that Bruce Lee was this brilliant, insightful guy.
And in that movie, they made him a caricature of that.
brendan schaub
And you have a problem with that?
joe rogan
I did.
I stood up and clapped.
brendan schaub
I don't have a problem with it.
joe rogan
Why did you stand up and clap?
unidentified
It was so good because I thought Bruce Lee's going to beat the fuck out of Brad Pitt.
brendan schaub
And then when you see that, I went, that twist is hilarious.
Because I don't expect it.
And I think of Bruce Lee as a badass, which he is.
Whether he's been in a million fights or not, the way what he's done for martial arts is unprecedented.
It's amazing what he did.
So that twist for me, that's what I want from the movie.
joe rogan
What was the family's reaction?
brendan schaub
Oh my god, the sisters.
I mean, his daughter's pissed.
You'd be pissed.
If that was my dad?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Like, fuck you.
And that movie's so big.
Like, fuck you guys.
Because when's the last time Bruce Lee got brought up besides Jesse at Roots of Fight selling a Bruce Lee t-shirt?
When's the last time he got brought the fuck up?
joe rogan
The dude who played Bruce Lee was not quite shredded enough.
brendan schaub
Yeah, he should have been more shredded.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's just not quite shredded.
brendan schaub
See, I like the twist because A, it's not real.
B, you thought Bruce Lee was going to beat the fuck out of Brad Pitt.
unidentified
I didn't.
brendan schaub
Oh, I did for sure.
I was like, oh, he's about to get fucked up.
I knew Brad Pitt was going to fuck him up.
And also, the way Bruce Lee doing that jumping flying kick, his signature kick, that's probably how it go down.
unidentified
Yeah!
brendan schaub
What are you talking about?
With the guy who's been in fights?
Get the fuck out of here.
joe rogan
I think Bruce Lee's philosophy in real fights, though, was keeping things simple, like leg kicks and quick punches.
brendan schaub
You're living in reality, Joe.
You're living in the legs of Bruce Lee, which is probably true.
But in a Quentin Tarantino movie, that was fucking great, man.
I thought that movie was brilliant.
joe rogan
I thought the movie was brilliant.
I did not like the Bruce Lee things because I thought it wasn't necessary.
They made him look like a dork.
brendan schaub
But everyone sucks his dick.
So to mix it up, it's fantastic.
Like Bruce Lee, he's the best.
And I agree, he's the best.
joe rogan
It's a movie that's supposed to be about a real guy that has a real legacy.
And they made him look like a buffoon.
brendan schaub
It's the movies, though.
joe rogan
I know, but you're making the guy look like a fucking idiot.
And he wasn't really an idiot.
brendan schaub
No, he wasn't an idiot at all.
Not at all.
He's a brilliant philosopher.
And what he did for martial arts is amazing.
That's what's great.
Because we know he's great.
And you assume he's going to beat up Brad Pitt.
joe rogan
You're a weird fucking guy.
I don't know why you think that's good.
brendan schaub
I like the twist.
If you would have beat Brad Pitt up, I would have went, alright, well, moving on.
joe rogan
I didn't think that was going to happen.
I thought Brad Pitt was going to fuck him up.
brendan schaub
I didn't.
joe rogan
Brad Pitt knew how to fight.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
Who's a bigger guy and he knew how to fight.
And the reality is, a bigger guy who knows how to fight, who really knows how to fight, is going to fuck up a 130-pound Chinese guy.
brendan schaub
Oh, you're thinking about it too much, dude.
joe rogan
I do think about things too much.
brendan schaub
You thought of it way too much.
That's what I do, though.
Yeah, you do.
joe rogan
You're like, yeah!
brendan schaub
Oh, I loved it.
joe rogan
I like the twist!
brendan schaub
I love the twist.
joe rogan
His family is furious, right?
You got anything on that?
brendan schaub
His daughter's pissed.
jamie vernon
She did a video.
I was looking into just people talking about what really happened, I guess.
This might come from a story from some...
joe rogan
Oh, there was a real interaction between the two?
jamie vernon
That's what I'm trying to figure out.
brendan schaub
I get pissed so hard.
joe rogan
Go ahead.
Let's wrap this up.
It's already 4.30.
brendan schaub
Is it?
joe rogan
Get the fuck out of here.
Good night, everybody.
What's going on?
unidentified
T-Fat K? Good night, everybody.
brendan schaub
I'm in Portland next week with Derek Poston and Chappelle Lacey.
Portland, Helium, Thursday, Friday, Saturday.
joe rogan
Chappelle Lacey is hilarious, too.
brendan schaub
Monsters, dude.
joe rogan
Great guy.
brendan schaub
It's been a good show.
joe rogan
Does he do a backflip?
brendan schaub
Yes.
He's a male cheerleader.
joe rogan
Crazy cheerleading skills.
brendan schaub
He's wider than you and me.
Yeah.
joe rogan
He's so powerful.
He threw this girl up.
The girl weighed like 100 pounds, threw her up in the air, caught her on one hand, and she's standing on his hand.
I'm like, God damn, that dude's strong.
brendan schaub
However, we played basketball at my house, and he couldn't get through a game of 21. Love Chappelle, though.
joe rogan
Why not?
brendan schaub
Not in shape for basketball, bro.
joe rogan
Oh, you mean exhausted?
brendan schaub
He's tired?
He's so tired.
joe rogan
He's starting a jujitsu.
unidentified
Yeah, I know.
brendan schaub
That's what he said.
He said he loves it.
Yeah.
So I'm in Portland next week, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Portland, Helium.
Then after, I'm in Houston.
Then Denver, September.
Get your tickets.
joe rogan
Holla, tfatk.com.
brendan schaub
Yes, sir.
Love you, man.
joe rogan
Love you, too, brother.
All right.
Bye, everybody.
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