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April 13, 2010 - The Joe Rogan Experience
02:06:34
JRE MMA Show #16 with Brendan Schaub
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brendan schaub
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joe rogan
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jamie vernon
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brendan schaub
They get me all the time.
I'm more famous than them.
Aye, aye!
joe rogan
I wish we could tell you what we were talking about, but we can't.
Yeah, we were talking about Joey getting in trouble, though.
He just texted me about it.
brendan schaub
How's Joey Diaz getting in trouble with, what, the MMA community?
MMA outlets?
They have nothing to do?
joe rogan
Well, here's the thing, though.
I see where they're coming from.
They're journalists.
If someone says something that fucking outrageous about what Mackenzie Dern's derriere must...
brendan schaub
He said, I think your ass smells great right now or something like that.
joe rogan
Yes, something along those lines.
brendan schaub
You're talking about the comic Uncle Joey said this?
joe rogan
Yes, the comic Uncle Joey.
But I get it.
I get where they would...
And then Vinnie Magalese backed him up.
I get it.
brendan schaub
Backed up Joey.
joe rogan
Yeah, he backed up Joey.
He said something like, and tasty too.
brendan schaub
Yikes.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yikes.
I get it.
brendan schaub
I don't get it.
That's Joey Diaz, the great comic who's commenting on a hot girl in the UFC. He is not a writer.
He's not a journalist.
These writers have nothing to do.
So they're like, how can we get hits?
Let's talk about Joey Diaz.
joe rogan
Right.
brendan schaub
Because no one's reading any of our shit.
joe rogan
I agree with you somewhat, but he definitely did do it.
Here's my thing.
They can say whatever they want about what he said, but if he was your friend and he texted you that, you would do what I did.
Look, because I'll show you.
He fucking texted me that before he tweeted it.
brendan schaub
Of course!
joe rogan
I love that Joey texts now.
Joey never would text message.
brendan schaub
Oh, I hope he doesn't keep texting.
joe rogan
Joey Diaz is a full-on texter now.
unidentified
Is he?
brendan schaub
He still calls, though.
He called me last week.
joe rogan
Most of the time he calls, but he texted me.
Yeah.
brendan schaub
It's Joey Diaz, man.
joe rogan
Sorry, folks.
Wish I could let you in.
You can go Google what he said.
I'm trying to be respectful.
brendan schaub
It's Joey Diaz!
He can say whatever he wants.
He doesn't work for the UFC. He's not...
You're right.
joe rogan
I'm glad he does think like that.
I'm glad he does send me texts like that.
But if I was a news website and I was going to report...
First of all...
You want clicks?
Yeah.
unidentified
You want clicks?
joe rogan
For sure.
That's what they want.
But also, anybody who reads that...
You're either going to be like me, or you're going to start laughing, or you're going to get really upset.
brendan schaub
Really upset?
joe rogan
And then you're not a Joey Diaz fan anyway.
brendan schaub
If you read that, 95% of that is dudes reading it and are like, that's hilarious.
joe rogan
Yeah, 95%.
brendan schaub
The 5% are like, what the hell?
What are we doing?
How could you report this?
joe rogan
Yeah, I think that's a good number.
unidentified
95. 95% of the dudes are like, that's hilarious.
brendan schaub
I was wondering the same thing.
joe rogan
Some women will get upset though.
And rightly so.
If I had, just imagine if you were a dude and there was some big ol' giant Alexander Carellin looking dude who wanted to fuck you.
And he was always making jokes about what your butthole must smell like.
Just stop.
Just stop and think of what that would feel like.
That wouldn't be a good time.
brendan schaub
If you're Mackenzie?
joe rogan
If you're anybody that someone is saying those things about, right?
I'm just trying to be open-minded.
brendan schaub
You're being super open-minded.
You kind of are.
If you turn social justice, I'm fucking out.
I can't.
joe rogan
I can't.
It's not possible.
It's not possible.
But what I'm saying is, if you look at it from the position of the person, the person whose butthole is in question, That would be an uncomfortable position to be in, right?
A bunch of people talking about what your butthole smelled like.
We're just trying to make a living on TV. Just trying to make a living?
Just trying to choke a girl?
brendan schaub
You know what that is?
It's also Joey Diaz being complimentary.
It'd be one thing if she was not an attractive female or something like that.
She's obviously very attractive, which is what makes us funny.
joe rogan
I agree, 100%.
I agree.
brendan schaub
Now, if he tweets out, I wonder what Black Beast asshole smells like, something like that, to fully redeem himself, that's fine, too.
joe rogan
I don't know.
He might.
brendan schaub
He might.
joe rogan
Yeah, I don't know if he can get away with that.
brendan schaub
He might just throw it up there to give those Cheeto fingers something to write about.
joe rogan
Joey's coming on with Yoel Romero.
brendan schaub
I cannot wait for that.
I cannot.
It's going to be a complete...
joe rogan
That's the craziest podcast ever.
They're going to talk in Cuban and, I mean, Spanish, obviously, and then go back and forth.
Translate for you.
And then go English and whatever he can't get, Joey's going to help him out with.
You know, like, if I talk too fast or if I say something he doesn't understand, Joey's going to jump in.
Then they're going to...
brendan schaub
It's going to be awesome.
unidentified
It could be awesome or a complete shit joke, but it's probably going to be awesome.
brendan schaub
Yes, it's going to be awesome.
With you and Joey, anyone.
joe rogan
Joey, he's a great entertainer.
People don't understand.
Part of the reason why he's so funny is he knows what's entertaining for you.
He knows how to be the life of the party.
Like, no one.
Callan's pretty goddamn good at it too.
brendan schaub
Callan's up there.
Callan can entertain a room.
joe rogan
Callan can dig over a room and bring the party.
I think that's his best art form.
Me too.
I've told him that.
I think that your best art form is like inappropriate comedy around people who are trapped.
unidentified
Correct.
brendan schaub
We're stuck at a party subject.
joe rogan
Yeah, you're at a plane with him or something, and he can't go anywhere.
brendan schaub
He's the funniest person.
He's made me laugh harder offstage than anyone.
joe rogan
Almost anybody.
brendan schaub
It's so ridiculous.
joe rogan
He's right up there offstage with Joey.
But onstage, Joey's just...
He's on another planet.
Especially right now, he's on another planet.
Look, Callan's fucking hilarious onstage, too.
But Joey right now...
Jesus Christ.
brendan schaub
Yeah, Callan just did his showcase at the improv.
joe rogan
How'd that go?
brendan schaub
You know, Callan, I murdered, murdered, murdered.
Got killed.
unidentified
That's good.
brendan schaub
But I've been hearing good things.
joe rogan
That's good.
That club is not a bad club to work at now.
I wish they would get rid of that stupid fucking piano on stage, though.
That doesn't make any sense to me.
brendan schaub
The piano is weird and Brian makes the same joke about it every time.
It's hilarious.
joe rogan
Does he?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
I won't say what it is.
There's a part where you're standing, especially if you go anywhere back on the stage, where the people that are on the right side of the stage, like if you're facing the audience, you're right.
Those people can't see shit.
unidentified
They can't see.
brendan schaub
And there's not a lot of room either.
joe rogan
It's stupid.
brendan schaub
Yeah, it is strange.
joe rogan
It's stupid.
brendan schaub
Who the fuck uses it?
unidentified
Who the fuck uses it?
brendan schaub
Does anyone get on there?
unidentified
It's fucking...
joe rogan
I don't know, man.
brendan schaub
We should have a carrot top or some shit.
joe rogan
Well, I know Craig Robinson does on occasion.
brendan schaub
He brings his own, though.
unidentified
Does he?
brendan schaub
Yeah, he usually has his electric piano, doesn't he?
joe rogan
Maybe.
Owen Benjamin could play the fuck out of a piano.
brendan schaub
Listen, the moral of the story is no one's really using that.
joe rogan
He even has a huge pianist.
Was it a website that he had or something?
Because he's a giant dude.
Nobody's using that fucking thing.
Get rid of it.
Get rid of it.
Owen doesn't need it.
Like, most places don't need a goddamn piano.
brendan schaub
That's so old school.
joe rogan
Well, it's just in the way.
It's a hindrance.
It's taking away from the show.
I really believe it takes away from the show.
brendan schaub
Can you name any other club with a piano on stage?
Not really.
joe rogan
It's hard to think.
It's just a stupid thing to have.
brendan schaub
But also, look what the comedy store is doing, and then do that.
joe rogan
Craig Robinson with his own fucking keyboard, you're right.
brendan schaub
Yeah, he usually comes out with his own shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's probably got a bunch of shit hooked up on that thing, right?
Look at him.
I bet he DJs the fuck out of a party.
brendan schaub
He does look like a mean DJ. He does, right?
You know who else DJs?
It's Shaq.
You ever seen Shaq, like straight up DJing?
His giant ass is a DJ. Yeah, that's what he does like in his off time.
jamie vernon
He's got platinum records.
unidentified
Multiple.
brendan schaub
Being a DJ? As a rapper.
No, that Diesel CD went platinum?
jamie vernon
Yeah, he's got two.
I have one of them.
unidentified
That's embarrassing.
brendan schaub
I saw some video of him DJing, and it's like thousands of people, like kids just jamming out, obviously high off their ass on ecstasy, but it looked like a good time.
That's what he does.
joe rogan
Why not, man?
brendan schaub
Why not?
joe rogan
Russell Peters is legit.
DJ? Legit DJ. Like, legit.
Friends with all the old-school rappers like Big Daddy Kane and shit.
brendan schaub
I had no idea.
joe rogan
Dude, Russell is seriously legit.
Like, when we had him on the podcast a long time ago, he actually...
Look at the size of Shaq, towering over that fucking equipment.
brendan schaub
The biggest DJ in the world.
joe rogan
He's so big.
He's so crazy.
But Russell Le doesn't like those other guys calling themselves DJs.
Those like Tiesto guys.
brendan schaub
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, he says that's not a DJ. He's like a DJ, someone who knows how to play records.
These guys are like pressing play on their laptop and bouncing around with their hands up in the air.
brendan schaub
I mean, I think there's more to it, but I agree.
You're kind of just hitting a playlist and doing your thing.
joe rogan
It's a different thing.
brendan schaub
I think there's more to that.
joe rogan
It's a different thing, but to those people that want to hear that different thing, those are the masters.
I just think it's silly to get hung up on one art form or another, because in any art form, you're going to have...
There's Russell tearing it up.
See, he actually knows how to mix and scratch and all that shit.
brendan schaub
He's a talented dude.
joe rogan
He's a smart dude.
Ross is a very smart dude.
brendan schaub
Very smart.
joe rogan
Very good dude, too.
Like one of the nicest people I think I've ever met.
Like a super, super fucking sweetheart.
brendan schaub
First man to roast me on stage and it hurt my feelings, but then that was the way of just kind of initiation.
Bust your balls.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Ball busting.
A little busting of the balls.
I love him.
Yeah, he's a sweetheart.
But he's super passionate about old-school DJing, like with record players and shit.
He's really good at that.
And there is an art to that.
brendan schaub
But that's why he hates on these new guys, like DJ Tiesto and...
joe rogan
Well, he doesn't hate on them.
He doesn't hate on them.
He just doesn't think that they should call themselves DJs.
Because he's like, DJ's a disc jockey.
brendan schaub
They're like a new-age disc jockey, though.
joe rogan
But they're not a disc.
They don't have a disc.
He's got a disc, and that's part of his art.
He's moving that disc.
brendan schaub
Electric disc jockey.
joe rogan
I see his point.
I just think people love that kind of music, obviously.
Like that Calvin Harris shit.
brendan schaub
Hell yeah.
joe rogan
And I'm not saying shit in a bad way.
brendan schaub
It makes them jams.
joe rogan
A way of describing it.
But as you're driving down the road in Vegas, man, you see these big ass Calvin Harris posters and shit.
Yeah, Diplo.
brendan schaub
Huge, man.
joe rogan
All those electronic guys.
I mean, obviously, people love that sound.
So I don't think he's saying that they suck.
I just think he's saying it's a different thing.
brendan schaub
Different.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Because, like, obviously, if you wanted to hear that shit and you went there and Russell was scratching records, you'd be like, come on.
brendan schaub
Come on, bro.
joe rogan
I'm here to do ecstasy and listen to...
brendan schaub
What are you doing?
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Let the bass drop.
joe rogan
Yeah.
You know, disc jockey, a person who introduces and plays recorded popular music, especially on radio or at a disco.
brendan schaub
They're electric DJ jockeys.
joe rogan
Maybe time to update that fucking...
brendan schaub
Yeah, that's super old school.
joe rogan
What the fuck is a disco?
At a disco?
A disco?
How about a ballroom?
brendan schaub
The thing about those DJs, like Steve Aoki had a documentary on Netflix, which is ridiculous, but because they're not live performing, they can do more shows than anyone.
So Steve Aoki was on the road 300 days out of the year and made something like $300 gigillion.
Private jet.
He's going from Amsterdam to China.
Yeah, just nonstop.
That's all you do.
joe rogan
He was at the Onnit Lab.
brendan schaub
I know, I saw that.
Yeah, yeah.
He was the guy who was throwing cakes in people's faces, mainly girls.
He'd toss cakes.
That was his thing.
And then he hit one girl, and her neck was like, I think he had a lawsuit, so he stopped throwing the cake in their face.
joe rogan
Yeah, don't throw cakes.
brendan schaub
It was awesome.
People would ask for it, though.
joe rogan
This is what he'd do?
unidentified
Boom!
joe rogan
Is that the girl that got hurt?
brendan schaub
Nah, I don't know.
Some girl got whiplashed, though.
joe rogan
So he would throw a cake, oh my god, with like a piece of cardboard underneath it?
Is that his move?
brendan schaub
That's just the bottom of the cake, you know what I'm saying?
You gotta put it on something.
joe rogan
That seems, um...
brendan schaub
See, Yoki, longest cake throw, hits guy in a wheelchair.
joe rogan
Well, that's not fun.
Oh, let's not watch this.
I don't want to watch the guy in the wheelchair get hit in the head.
brendan schaub
He's all, yeah, oh my god.
joe rogan
Maybe it's an honor, right?
brendan schaub
No, it is.
If you're a fan of Stevie Oakey, it's like, hit me with the cake!
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Like if you're at the WWE and someone spits on you.
brendan schaub
There's a little bit of blood or some shit.
unidentified
Someone just...
joe rogan
They catch that conversation spit.
brendan schaub
Or in the NBA, when they throw their mouthpiece, people catch them.
It's disgusting.
Happens in MMA, too.
What are you going to do with that thing?
joe rogan
I've seen that.
Yeah.
Why do people throw them in the audience?
brendan schaub
I don't know.
It's so disgusting.
joe rogan
It seems so preposterous.
What is this?
Jamie, what is it?
unidentified
Oh!
jamie vernon
You said blood, spitting blood.
This is the guy lifting at the Arnold thing.
brendan schaub
He needs to see a doctor.
joe rogan
So his nose started spraying blood right in the middle of his lift.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Whoa.
unidentified
Bro.
brendan schaub
You need to see a doctor, sir.
joe rogan
Eh, he's fine.
jamie vernon
Got the lift up.
joe rogan
Got a little stomach thing going on.
brendan schaub
That's eternal bleeding.
joe rogan
He's got a little, uh, nah, it's probably a nasal infection.
brendan schaub
You think?
unidentified
Eh.
brendan schaub
Bursting out like that?
joe rogan
Walk it off.
brendan schaub
Can't be good.
joe rogan
Can I just...
Deadlift is a thousand pounds.
Looks pretty healthy to me.
How much did he deadlift?
brendan schaub
He's gonna live a long time.
jamie vernon
939 it says.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ, that's so much weight.
brendan schaub
That's a lot of weight.
joe rogan
That's so much weight.
I saw a crazy one where a dude was doing the squat and the bar couldn't handle the weight and the bar bent and he couldn't get it back onto the rack.
And so he had to like kind of dive out from under it.
But he was squatting a shitload of weight obviously.
Imagine having that kind of weight on you and you've got to figure out how to get it off you without hurting you.
brendan schaub
Have you seen Homeboy when they do the heavy squats and they blow their asshole out?
joe rogan
Oh, I did see that.
brendan schaub
That's a tough one.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I thought you were going to bring up that guy who was doing something in one of those CrossFit games.
And he was doing a clean and his arms gave out and it dropped down on his neck and paralyzed him.
brendan schaub
Damn, no.
Keep it positive.
joe rogan
It's a friend of Tate's.
brendan schaub
Landed on his neck.
joe rogan
Out.
Dead.
Just fell down.
Body stopped moving.
No, he's paralyzed from the neck down.
Just boom.
Like everything just shut off.
It landed on his neck.
brendan schaub
Probably pass on the CrossFit from now on in.
joe rogan
Well, you know what?
Some of these guys are almost too fucking tough for their own good with something like that where you're holding something over your head.
brendan schaub
Doing a thousand reps or whatever the hell they do.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're just trying to smash everybody's reps and show how badass they are, which is, you know, it's competition.
Steve Maxwell hates that shit.
He says that, and I see other people's points too, that it's beneficial, that the competition makes you work harder.
But Maxwell's take on it is those type of exercise movements like power cleans and things like that.
brendan schaub
They're not meant for high reps.
joe rogan
They're not meant for high reps.
brendan schaub
No, I agree with him.
joe rogan
He's like, those are strength moves.
They're meant for low reps, couple sets, you know, heavy shit.
unidentified
100%.
brendan schaub
Your body shouldn't be doing that in Things that can go wrong are really gonna fuck you up, especially when you start going tons and you're losing your technique and your form.
That's dangerous shit, man.
joe rogan
Yeah, you lose.
And this guy was out of position, too.
brendan schaub
Damn, paralyzed.
Tate's boy?
joe rogan
Yeah, Tate knows him.
Tate's big in that.
He's deep in that CrossFit world.
brendan schaub
He knows a lot of those CrossFit people.
He has a finished barbell club.
What's his thing over there?
He does something off Lincoln in Venice.
He's always there.
They have some strongman shit.
There's caves everywhere.
joe rogan
I know what you're talking about.
The name escapes me.
brendan schaub
God, me too.
joe rogan
The Box?
brendan schaub
No.
joe rogan
That's not it?
The Box in Venice?
brendan schaub
No.
joe rogan
Whatever.
brendan schaub
Callum works at Venice Barbell Club.
joe rogan
Tate's always been in that kind of working out.
brendan schaub
Is it Deuces?
joe rogan
Way back in the day.
Is it Deuces?
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Deuce.
joe rogan
There you go.
Shout out to Deuces.
brendan schaub
Man, what's up, Deuce?
joe rogan
Yeah, Tate's always been into kettlebells and muscle-ups and shit like that and CrossFit-style movements and he's a big fan of CrossFit.
He loves it.
brendan schaub
Have you done a ton of CrossFit?
joe rogan
No.
I mean, I do those kind of exercises, right?
I do a lot of kettlebell stuff.
I do deadlifts.
I do a lot of things that I do.
brendan schaub
Like circuit training.
joe rogan
Yeah, but I don't do it the way they do it.
brendan schaub
No, me neither.
joe rogan
I do that Pavel Tatsulini method where you're doing like sets of five.
Never more than sets of five.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I dig that.
joe rogan
And I take a lot of time off in between sets.
brendan schaub
My schedule's been so crazy, man.
I haven't been able to go to the gym like I typically do.
You know where I work with my trainer, I'll do weights, I'll do mitts, stuff like that.
So I've been trying to find some alternatives.
joe rogan
Yeah, man.
It's fun to mix shit up.
Yeah, I've been bored.
Just doing something different.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I've been bored.
joe rogan
Take a yoga class.
brendan schaub
I've been doing yoga.
I've been doing hot yoga, which I love.
joe rogan
Fucking taekwondo, bro.
unidentified
How about that?
joe rogan
You want to go deep?
unidentified
Hi-ya!
joe rogan
Double knife hand block.
brendan schaub
Wanna go deep?
joe rogan
After a post-UFC career, front-kicking motherfuckers.
brendan schaub
Wanna go deep?
It's a good workout, though.
Hard pass on that, man.
I don't want anything to do with martial arts.
joe rogan
But here's the thing.
Do some sort of McDojo style, Taekwondo.
As long as they teach you good technique.
You gotta get a good workout in.
brendan schaub
I'm trying to burn some calories.
joe rogan
You get a good workout in?
brendan schaub
I'm sure.
joe rogan
Those wheel kicks and shit.
brendan schaub
Hard pass for me.
Hard pass, Joe.
Hard fucking pass.
joe rogan
What about Aikido?
Just for a goof.
Just you with the pajamas.
Just wrist locking motherfuckers.
Flipping them.
Grabbing that wrist.
brendan schaub
You fly.
joe rogan
You fly into the ground with magic.
brendan schaub
That'd be sick.
joe rogan
Imagine, ah, the wrist makes you do cartwheels.
brendan schaub
I go full deep on that.
joe rogan
No, it would be fun if you did it and you did one of them Aikido demonstrations.
You show what happens when someone doesn't just give in.
You'd be like, you know, he goes and grabs you and does this and you push him away from you.
brendan schaub
Fuck off.
I'd love that.
joe rogan
What is this?
What are you doing?
They try to throw you and you just kind of push their head down.
brendan schaub
I love that.
joe rogan
Like, come on, man.
Come on, man.
brendan schaub
Come on, bro.
unidentified
Stop.
brendan schaub
Bring it.
I love it.
joe rogan
You don't try to counter him.
You just go, just cut the shit.
unidentified
Stop.
brendan schaub
Just cut the shit.
This is fake.
Just the worst promo ever for him.
joe rogan
This is not working.
unidentified
Ah!
joe rogan
You have to throw yourself at them.
brendan schaub
It's all bullshit.
joe rogan
But apparently, man, those dudes who were badass at it back in the day, it was about getting rid of swords.
Guy comes at you with a fucking sword.
brendan schaub
And they're all...
joe rogan
They had to learn how to like, a guy's lunging at you literally with a ridiculous movement because he's trying to just chop you up, right?
So it would be similar to how these guys move in those demonstration videos.
But that shit's not applicable if a guy doesn't have a sword.
brendan schaub
That's old school too.
It's just fucking...
I was thinking about doing, this isn't a sponsor or anything like that, I was looking at those, because you have one in the back, they're one of those Peloton bikes.
joe rogan
Yeah, Peloton bikes.
brendan schaub
So I can work out, just wake up and do that, and then do my thing.
joe rogan
Those are great.
brendan schaub
You think?
joe rogan
They have a whole thing, you do a bunch of different workouts.
brendan schaub
You can go online, there's like online classes.
This isn't a sponsor, but I don't, yeah.
joe rogan
You do it live, too.
But you know what I like better?
I like the Rogue bike, that fucking assault bike, what is it called?
The Echo?
brendan schaub
The Aerodyne?
joe rogan
Yeah, Jesus Christ.
They made a beefed up version of one.
I have one here.
Yeah, I do Tabatas on it.
20 seconds on, 10 seconds off.
Holy shit, dude.
brendan schaub
If I get the Pedalton bike, that Rogue thing, or the Aerodyne, and like a rower, I'd be straight.
joe rogan
Yeah.
The rower's bad.
I got a rower, too.
Rower's badass, too.
I do 30 and 30 with the rower, so 30 minutes of sprinting, 30 minutes of rest, 30 minutes of sprinting, 30 minutes of rest.
brendan schaub
30 minutes?
joe rogan
Excuse me.
Seconds.
brendan schaub
I was like, Jesus Christ, Joe.
What are you on, sir?
joe rogan
Can you imagine if you could just sprint for 30 minutes?
unidentified
I was like, what the fuck?
joe rogan
What kind of a Viking are you?
unidentified
Excuse me.
joe rogan
30 seconds.
So the Tabata is a 2010 and then I go from I do like it'll do eight rounds of 2010 and then I go over and do the row machine and I'll do eight rounds of 30 30 30 seconds on 30 seconds off and then I go back and do it again and then I do it again and if I've got the stones if I got the stones I could do three sets exhausting I've only done three sets once and I had to double up on the shroom tag.
brendan schaub
You felt sick.
joe rogan
I was beat down, man.
You're just really exhausted at the end of it.
brendan schaub
But it's also short and your body's super intense at the time.
Most people think that's the best workout you can do.
joe rogan
It does something to you, I guarantee you.
Because one of the things, after doing it like three or four times, I started to feel it in my running.
It's because I'm running a lot too, though.
But my endurance in running is getting better.
And I think maybe some of that might have to do with the biking.
Because the bike works out different muscles, too, man.
brendan schaub
Your lungs, too.
When it has to adapt to that kind of capacity, moving like that.
joe rogan
That's not it.
brendan schaub
That's the beefy one?
I will break that shit, Jamie.
joe rogan
That's not it, Jamie.
It's called the Rogue Echo.
Echo Air or some shit?
brendan schaub
I've been doing the 1,000 meter test on the row.
Like, I'll get done hitting mitts with my trainer and then go, 8,000 meters, and I see they have the records for the week.
joe rogan
Right.
brendan schaub
I try and beat the records.
joe rogan
And just so anybody knows, that's not a sneaky ad.
I paid for all the rogue stuff that's here.
I bought it all.
brendan schaub
No, no, this is an ad.
unidentified
I just think it's good.
joe rogan
That's it right there.
brendan schaub
God, duh.
The thing is beefy.
joe rogan
Beefy as fuck.
It's got girders and shit.
You got a fat-ass handle on a girder.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I need to step my game up so I don't have to...
joe rogan
Dude, it's nice to be able to just do it in your house.
All you need is a chin-up bar and some kettlebells at home, and you can just get something done.
brendan schaub
Yep, that's what I need.
joe rogan
Because sometimes, you know that thing where you have an hour before you have to leave?
Like, I might be able to get to the gym and squeeze 30 minutes in.
brendan schaub
See, that's what I've been doing.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's not...
brendan schaub
Because I like to wake up with my son, and I'm with him, and I'm with an hour, and then you'll be at the studio.
Here, I'm going to New York, I'm doing this.
I just want to do something at home.
joe rogan
Dude, I've become addicted to the fasted cardio.
brendan schaub
I used to do that before I started throwing up.
joe rogan
Yeah, but I think that's your coffee intake.
brendan schaub
Yeah, you're probably right.
joe rogan
Your coffee intake is off.
What are you, like 20 cups a day or something?
brendan schaub
I was at 12 to 16 cups a day.
And then fasting until 2. The doctor's like, well, let's not do that, you moron.
unidentified
That's so crazy.
joe rogan
That's so much whatever.
It's so much caffeine.
brendan schaub
It's just too much of anything.
joe rogan
It's too much of everything.
And if you're not having any food, then it's just getting straight in there.
It's all getting absorbed.
brendan schaub
I'm on all these medications now.
I have to get off keto.
unidentified
Really?
brendan schaub
I'm dying, Joe.
I have stage 1 diabetes.
joe rogan
What is the medications they put you on?
unidentified
I don't know.
brendan schaub
It's some anti-acid, like super strong stuff so I can still drink my coffee.
It's just not a possibility.
unidentified
That's so crazy.
joe rogan
You just have to keep coffee.
brendan schaub
Yes, I have to.
I was like, you will fuck up my entire workflow if I can't drink coffee.
joe rogan
That's so crazy.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
But fasting cardio is the way to go.
joe rogan
Yeah, I love it, man.
I get addicted to it.
You know what I get addicted to?
I get addicted to the feeling of having done it when I didn't want to do it.
That's what I realized this running thing is for me.
It's this little game I'm playing with my brain, where I know I'm gonna do it, but I wake up, I'm like, ugh.
And then Marshall's barking.
I'll put him in the backyard.
He's like, come on, bitch!
brendan schaub
Yeah, he wants to go.
joe rogan
Dude, he's so crazy now.
brendan schaub
I love it.
joe rogan
Because we've been doing it so much, so he's in really good shape.
That fucking dog's in shape.
Like, that dog's getting shaped like that.
He was getting a little chubby.
But he still had baby fat on him.
He's only 14 months old.
So when I took him, he was like 9 or 10 months old when I first started taking him.
I just wasn't sure if he was going to listen.
I was worried, like, what if we run into a rattlesnake or something like that?
brendan schaub
That would suck.
joe rogan
It sucks.
brendan schaub
You got used to the routine.
joe rogan
You could get them to the hospital, though.
They survive.
They're a lot tougher than us.
brendan schaub
You gotta suck it out, especially if they hit them on the nose.
You gotta suck it out.
joe rogan
That's not real.
brendan schaub
That's what I've heard, bro.
joe rogan
I've heard it, too.
It's not real.
brendan schaub
It's so fake, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, I just read it.
brendan schaub
It's bro science.
joe rogan
It doesn't work.
You can't really suck it out.
brendan schaub
Dogs die because it hits them on the nose, and so, you know, it gets spread.
That's what I've heard.
joe rogan
No, my dog's gonna be on the nose.
brendan schaub
If dogs have been on the nose, your dog has?
joe rogan
Yeah, my pit bull.
brendan schaub
By rattlesnake?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Did he die?
joe rogan
No.
brendan schaub
He's still alive?
joe rogan
No, he's dead now.
It was a long time ago.
brendan schaub
What are we doing?
joe rogan
It's a long time ago.
All my dogs got bit by rattlesnakes.
Except the killer.
Except Squeaky Fromm.
She didn't give a fuck about snakes.
She would just fuck up other dogs.
unidentified
Did her thing.
joe rogan
That was my prison dog.
That was the dog that I got from the pound.
That was in the pound.
That's from Callan.
Callan's suggestion.
It was in the LA animal shelter for like five or six months.
It was a sweet, sweet dog though.
brendan schaub
Loved people.
joe rogan
I did not want any dogs ruining her newfound party.
brendan schaub
Dog aggression.
joe rogan
Well, she lived for the formative months of her childhood before I got her.
She lived in a cage.
And I think that that fucks with the dog's head.
Nobody adopted her for, like, I think it was at least five or six months.
brendan schaub
Poor bunny.
joe rogan
And then, once you finally do get adopted, and you get all this love from these people, you get to sleep in bed with them and shit, and they take you home, and, I mean, that dog was, she slept right by my bed.
Sometimes they would hop in the bed, but I'd have to kick them off because they fart and shit.
brendan schaub
Yeah, see, I like them in the bed.
joe rogan
It's rough.
brendan schaub
I like the dogs in the bed.
Keep it warm.
joe rogan
Yeah, it does keep it warm, but sometimes they fart, and it's brutal.
brendan schaub
You're like, oh, Or if it's a hot summer night, it's like, get out of here, man.
joe rogan
I know, itchy and shit.
So, like, any dog that she thought might steal that from her?
Like, any dog that came into her near?
She would growl with dogs if you pet them.
She just was not into it.
brendan schaub
Insecurity issues.
joe rogan
Yeah.
There's good and bad.
brendan schaub
But you guys are running all the time together.
I've struggled with that a little bit lately where I'll be tired and I'm like, come on, you've got to work out.
I've never had a workout and then afterwards went, man, I wish I didn't do that.
joe rogan
Never.
brendan schaub
Not once.
joe rogan
People need to understand.
I saw a couple of comments of people saying, this is terrible advice and you should listen to your body when your body's tired.
unidentified
Oh, shut up.
joe rogan
That's not right.
No.
If you're sick, it's one thing.
Yeah, I know when I need to rest.
And I also know when I've done too much stuff.
I've done two workouts a day, three days in a row before, and then you get to that fourth day and you're like, whoa.
Alright, I probably should do nothing today.
brendan schaub
That's almost tougher to do than working out.
For me to take a day off is almost tougher.
joe rogan
Psychologically.
brendan schaub
Yes.
Because I'm like, oh, that's not good, man.
unidentified
Don't be a pussy.
joe rogan
You've got momentum.
Right now it's going good, right?
Your body starts thinking it's going to go.
But there's a moment where you realize that you're probably...
I should really monitor my resting heart rate in the morning.
That's another thing Steve Maxwell taught me.
He said that that's one of the best ways to figure out if you're overtrained.
brendan schaub
Overtrained.
We used to do that in camps.
joe rogan
When you wake up in the morning, if your heart rate is 5 to 10 beats...
Over what it normally is, don't do shit because you're fighting something off.
Either you're fighting something off or you need to recover.
You could do like light skill work.
brendan schaub
They say if you're sick, working out makes it worse because it messes up your immune system.
joe rogan
Yeah, it messes up your immune system.
brendan schaub
Usually I know if I'm being lazy, I'm like, God, I just want to rest in bed, man.
Or I just want to do this.
I'd rather do this.
joe rogan
But you know what?
If you're not too sick, if you're not too debilitated, it's not a bad thing to just do light focus work.
Just move.
Try to figure out some technique where you're not doing anything hard.
unidentified
Or even a steam room or sauna.
joe rogan
Someone who asked me about steam room versus sauna, I asked Rhonda Patrick.
There hasn't really been studies done on the sauna or the steam room rather that show the benefits of the sauna.
They're both hot as shit.
They're both hot as shit.
It probably has some benefit.
The only difference is that the sauna can get way hotter because it's a dry heat.
So the sauna can get, you know, my sauna, I've had it up to more than 190. I fucked up and had it too much.
brendan schaub
We sat in that sauna in Boston.
You're a serial killer in there.
Ten more minutes shot, and I was dying.
I was like, I think I'm set, man.
I think I'm kind of set.
I'm all red like a lobster.
joe rogan
You just gotta go empty in there.
brendan schaub
I know, I hear you, but I was good, man.
We were in there for a minute.
Jamie dipped out super early.
jamie vernon
Ten minutes before you guys.
joe rogan
He was there before everybody!
brendan schaub
Oh, were you?
I didn't know that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Because when you left, I went, pussy.
joe rogan
No, I'm just kidding.
unidentified
No, no, no.
joe rogan
Jamie got there first.
brendan schaub
Little beast.
joe rogan
Shout out to Equinox in Boston.
Great fucking gym.
brendan schaub
That was a good night, man.
joe rogan
Yeah, they keep it at 170. That's what most people think it should be.
170. But if he was 170 with steam, man, you're getting cooked in there.
That's not good.
I don't think you can take that heat.
So the idea is that the sauna, because it's a dry heat for the most part...
I know sometimes people throw some water on the rocks.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
But it's a dry heat for the most part, and that is what you want because that's what your body responds to, just the actual temperature and produces those heat shock proteins.
brendan schaub
Makes sense.
joe rogan
Totally makes sense.
brendan schaub
You know what's weird is sometimes in the UFC, and you can feel this too, if it's at a hockey arena like T-Mobile, sometimes when you get into the octagon and get in that crowd, it's freezing.
Right, the ice below the feet.
It's freezing, which sucks for the fighter.
It takes a while to get going.
You'll see guys for the first round, you're like, God, he looks a little stiff.
What's going on here?
It's freezing out there, man.
You're just in shorts, you're sweating in the back, and it's warm in that locker room.
Then when you come out, you're like, God damn!
joe rogan
So you can feel a total difference when you get in there?
brendan schaub
Right away, I'd be like, God damn it.
I'd always think about it.
Is there a hockey team there?
Oh, there's ice.
So I had to calculate that.
Sure focus on something else.
joe rogan
I didn't realize it until one day.
I saw like a crack in between the boards, the floorboards, and I looked down and I went, that's fucking ice!
There's ice there right now?
And they're like, yeah, they keep the ice there.
They keep ice!
brendan schaub
They keep ice!
All these thousands of people chill on top of ice.
joe rogan
Well, it can't break.
brendan schaub
I know, I'm just saying it's kind of weird.
joe rogan
Oh, it's definitely weird.
But it's cold.
Is it better?
Well, not for the fighters for sure, but is it better for the audience?
Because sometimes it gets fucking hot in those places.
If you have just a big-ass chunk of ice in the middle of everybody...
brendan schaub
It's kind of smart.
The only time it's been super cookie is in Brazil.
They just didn't use any AC or anything.
joe rogan
Dude, I was in one of them.
It was an open-air place in Brazil.
So we were indoors, but at the top, the top areas, it's like these big ol' open doors that face the outside.
There was bugs flying around and shit.
brendan schaub
That's some Brazilian shit, man.
joe rogan
It was warm, man.
It was moist and warm.
brendan schaub
There was one with Anik and someone, and they're literally just sweating, the pit stains, they're just sweating it out.
joe rogan
That happened in Abu Dhabi, too.
We were in Abu Dhabi, I was drenched.
That was outdoors.
That was an outdoors one.
Yeah.
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Was that Munoz, Weidman?
joe rogan
Anderson, Damian Maia.
brendan schaub
That's right.
Weidman fought out there, too.
I think he fought...
joe rogan
BJ Penn fought Frankie Edgar.
That's where Frankie Edgar won the title.
brendan schaub
And they've had Roy Nog out there.
joe rogan
Yep.
brendan schaub
They haven't been back there in a while.
joe rogan
It's been a while.
brendan schaub
It's been a minute.
Hot minute.
joe rogan
Yeah, that one was crazy because you saw bugs flying around.
You never knew were real.
brendan schaub
Oh, it's some Jumanji shit out there.
I went on a hike.
I was like, oh, I'm in Jumanji.
This is cool.
joe rogan
Like, what in the fuck is this?
brendan schaub
Shit you've never seen before.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's crazy.
You go to other countries, man.
They have completely different ecosystems.
The point where you look at things, you go, what in the fuck is that?
What is that?
brendan schaub
But where it's dangerous, too.
I remember when I was in Brazil, we were climbing this thing, and they go, now listen, fellas, you got to make sure, and we're with the locals, like, you have to come down before nightfall, otherwise they're not going to find you.
What kind of shit is this?
So we just dipped out, getting up there in my man.
My manager Lex McMahon got lost.
We didn't see him for the rest of the night.
And literally the local was like, he's one with the jungle now.
I'm like, what the fuck does that mean?
joe rogan
Is this a bad rock movie?
brendan schaub
Is this the rundown or some shit?
What do you mean he's one with the jungle?
He showed up a day later just exhausted to get an ounce of sleep and someone in one of these huts took him under their wing and saved him.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
brendan schaub
Yeah, people have to get helicoptered out of there if they get trapped at the top.
I was like, dude, I feel like I shouldn't be doing this before a fight.
I feel like this is a bad idea.
joe rogan
How many days before a fight was this?
brendan schaub
This was like a week before.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ!
brendan schaub
The guy in front of us had a Soonga on, basically a Speedo, just asshole out in front of us, just fucking going.
joe rogan
Through the jungle with a Speedo on you.
brendan schaub
Barefoot.
joe rogan
Barefoot.
brendan schaub
And just doing work.
Smoking us.
Shredded, tan, fucking all acaïed up.
joe rogan
You ever see what their feet look like?
brendan schaub
Like hobbits feet.
joe rogan
They have the craziest feet ever.
These people that live in the forest, they splay out like a hand.
And they're super thick toes and shit, like it doesn't look anything like...
brendan schaub
No, we have bitch feet.
joe rogan
Oh dude, believe me man.
It feels good.
My feet were sore today.
I had to run in regular running shoes because my feet are sore.
brendan schaub
From the Vibrams?
joe rogan
Yeah, from just the pounding.
I'm scared of that plantar fasciitis.
Have you ever had it?
No.
brendan schaub
Get your mind right.
Let's go ahead and get on.
There's a reason there's technology, son.
Let's quit running barefoot these days.
joe rogan
No, no, no.
I think the barefoot thing strengthens your feet up.
I think it just takes time.
I'm just being real careful.
brendan schaub
Be super careful.
It's a nightmare.
joe rogan
I'm sure.
brendan schaub
Dom Cruz had to deal with it.
I've dealt with it at night.
I had to get shots, injections in my foot.
joe rogan
And with Dom Cruz, it was the same thing.
It was coming back too quickly.
Like, he had a knee injury, right?
So after his knee injury, then he just tried to get way back into shape way quick and fucked his feet up.
brendan schaub
Mine was just, I think, from being so big and just running.
I was doing, you know, miles and miles and miles and miles.
I love running.
It's literally my favorite thing to do.
joe rogan
Neil Brennan got planner from a treadmill from wearing those Vibrams.
brendan schaub
They say you gotta work into them.
You just don't want to go straight barefoot and just start doing work.
joe rogan
No, you definitely do.
brendan schaub
To me, it feels good to be barefoot.
I like walking in the street.
I feel like I'm doing something dangerous, like on the sidewalk barefoot.
Yeah, like, ooh, I'm wild.
unidentified
Wow.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I feel nice about it.
I don't know what it is, man.
It makes me feel free.
I know it's dirty and dangerous, but I don't care.
joe rogan
It's supposed to be dirty and dangerous.
That's what life is supposed to be.
It's supposed to be interacting with other life.
It's also your feet.
brendan schaub
It's your feet.
It feels nice.
joe rogan
It's a rubber barrier between you and the world.
That shit ain't right.
brendan schaub
They're always confined.
I like to let them breathe a little bit, man.
joe rogan
I wonder if the Indians had it right with moccasins.
brendan schaub
Nah, I think there's no airflow with those goddamn moccasins.
joe rogan
They didn't give a fuck what things smelled like back then, bro.
Oh, they smelled like bullshit.
brendan schaub
They just didn't give a fuck.
joe rogan
They gave up on that fight.
If they could find a creek, a temporary, put some of that fire out real quick.
brendan schaub
I'm not about that life.
I'm not like that, man.
joe rogan
But they would just run around with moccasins.
They basically just had like a layer of leather between their foot and the ground.
brendan schaub
That's all they could do.
joe rogan
Climb mountains with that.
Hey, hey, hey, what is this, Jamie?
brendan schaub
How dare you, Jamie?
joe rogan
This guy is slicing chunks off of the bottom of his foot.
I mean, this is crazy.
brendan schaub
That makes you feel sick, bro.
joe rogan
Man cuts calluses off his foot with a knife and dog eats it.
This is the name of this video.
How the fuck did you find it?
Look at these calluses, dude.
This is insane.
unidentified
Bro.
joe rogan
This guy is just slicing through these calluses like it's a coconut.
brendan schaub
Like it's coconut meat.
jamie vernon
It looks like a pineapple.
joe rogan
This is insane.
Have you ever seen anybody have calluses like this before, though?
brendan schaub
I think this guy has a problem.
That ain't normal.
joe rogan
What kind of a man can just cut at his foot like that?
brendan schaub
How do you know how deep to cut where you don't cut your goddamn heel off?
joe rogan
You know this dude is not sharpening that knife.
That's not a sharp knife.
brendan schaub
That's not.
joe rogan
This is crazy, man.
unidentified
And the dog is eating it!
joe rogan
The dog is taking the pieces of meat and eating it.
The dog's a man-eater.
What the fuck is wrong with that dog?
unidentified
How in the world did you find that, Jamie?
joe rogan
Jamie's got that bookmarked.
brendan schaub
I couldn't wait to...
Did you say feet?
Just couldn't wait to drag that shit up.
joe rogan
I mean, who the fuck cuts off the bottom of their feet with a knife like that?
brendan schaub
And what's he doing to get his feet like that?
joe rogan
And why is he yelling at that dog while that dog's eating his feet?
brendan schaub
That makes you this close to throwing up.
joe rogan
Wouldn't you, like, think that the dog would get used to that smell?
Like, that's what I like to eat now.
And then, like, you'll be sleeping.
The dog's hungry.
He's like, fuck it, I'm just gonna snack out on this dude's feet.
brendan schaub
It's a zombie dog.
You got a zombie dog in your hands now.
Looks like a bloodhound, too.
joe rogan
Dog's a goddamn horrible monster.
Meteor.
Human eater.
Wow.
brendan schaub
That makes me feel super sick, man.
joe rogan
On another note, how about that Brian Ortega?
unidentified
On another note, how about Brian Ortega, man?
brendan schaub
I don't know what my show yesterday night.
It was awkward because me and Brian are super close.
And I don't know what it is because...
Same thing with Stipe.
Whenever I know these guys...
I know him from when I trained with him, and I've seen him in that light.
With Brian Ortega, I cornered him for one of his fights before he got to the UFC. And I knew him as that Brian Ortega, where all jiu-jitsu, cardio for days, but terrified to fight.
I know him as that Brian.
And now he's evolved into the No.
1 featherweight in the world.
So when he got the Frankie Edgar fight, I was like, God, I just feel like it's a terrible matchup, man.
I'm telling Henner, I'm like, what's he going to do?
And Henner's like, don't worry, man, don't worry.
And so on my show, which Brian and Henner listen to, they're like, dude, they come in, they're like, how are you going to pick against me?
I'm like, no, no, no.
I said my brain went with Frankie just because it's Frankie Edgar.
He's a legend.
My heart wanted you, Brian.
He's like, dude, it hurt my feelings.
I'm like, I'm sorry, man.
And I don't know what it is.
It was Stipe, too.
Whenever I see him, I know him as that version of them.
It's a problem that I have.
I like this gap.
I don't know what's going on.
joe rogan
People always do that.
They do that.
They remember someone by what they were when they were at their worst.
brendan schaub
It's not even their worst, but it's in their infancy of their careers.
joe rogan
Well, let's not even say their worst.
Just say a lesser version of who they are now.
brendan schaub
Correct.
joe rogan
Right?
It's like, do you ever get that feeling when you go back to high school?
Like, if I'm around someone from high school, I feel like a loser.
You know, this is a weird feeling.
brendan schaub
100% when I go back to Denver, I'm almost not myself because I feel like this loser.
joe rogan
A loser.
Yeah, because you remember back who you were when you were insecure and starting out in life.
That's a normal thing.
They always say that about comedy clubs.
If you start out at a club, that club will never respect you.
They respect you when you leave, and maybe you get a TV show or something like that, and then come back, and they're like, yeah, yeah, I remember when you sucked, though.
They remember when you sucked.
I had a problem with that in Boston at first.
brendan schaub
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, because they remembered me as this guy who was an opener.
And then, you know, how am I a headliner?
brendan schaub
They treated you like that.
joe rogan
You're not a headliner.
I remember when you were opening.
You did 20 minutes.
You opened.
That's what you do.
brendan schaub
I know.
joe rogan
Like, you're not a headliner.
brendan schaub
I had one night...
This isn't in my nature at all.
I'm going to go back.
I've just been busy.
But I had one night at the Laugh Factory where I just...
I bombed, man.
Bomb, bomb.
unidentified
Like...
brendan schaub
I was like, I should probably not do this at all.
unidentified
Just...
brendan schaub
One guy in the back just goes...
unidentified
Boom!
brendan schaub
I'm like...
No doubt.
No doubt, man.
I get in the car and I'm just driving down Sunset.
I'm like, what the fuck am I doing, man?
It's so embarrassing.
I haven't been back since.
But not because...
Because I'm like, oh, I'm scared of the Laugh Factory.
It's just that I've been at the store and just been on the grind.
joe rogan
But you do have it in your head.
Like, you got to get back up there and clean that up.
brendan schaub
And literally, I think about it every day.
It's something back here.
It's like, get your ass up there, man.
I'm like, oh, but I'll go to the commie store.
Nope, get your ass up there.
joe rogan
See, that's an athlete's perspective.
That's the difference.
That's one of the things that I've been saying to people about you.
The difference between the way you've been approaching comedy and another person would do it, you're doing it from an athlete's perspective.
Like, you work hard at shit, and you know what your weaknesses are, and you fix those.
Other people ignore them.
It's a real problem.
You know, like someone who'll have a joke, and the joke doesn't do well, like several nights in a row, but they keep doing it the same way.
Like, why are you doing it the same way?
You need to cut some of that out.
You need to tweak this.
You need to turn that around.
You need to add something.
Maybe you're not explaining it enough, but if it's not doing well, and you keep doing it the same exact way...
brendan schaub
Yeah, it's not the crowds, homie.
joe rogan
Yeah, you gotta figure out...
brendan schaub
They're there to laugh.
joe rogan
People get stuck in a weird pattern, though, of wanting to do things the exact same way over and over again.
brendan schaub
Oh, dude, nothing's better to me when it's such an honor, too.
If I'm at the comedy store, if I was at the comedy store in La Jolla and a comic go, hey, you should try this.
I listen to your joke, you should button with this or try this.
I'm like, dude, that's brilliant, man.
joe rogan
Yeah, every now and then someone will just nail it for you.
They just find, they see something that maybe you didn't see and you're like, oh.
brendan schaub
Like you ever thought about going this direction?
I'm like, dude.
And it's not like they're writing your jokes like, hey, what if you went this direction?
I'm like, dude, that's brilliant, man.
joe rogan
That happens in martial arts, too, right?
Like hasn't someone like pointed something out to you like?
Oh shit.
brendan schaub
Oh hundred percent with a choker Your hands are like this dude.
You ever tried it like this and I do that Yeah, that makes sense.
It's so much easier.
joe rogan
Yeah Sometimes things don't seem they like they'd be easier and they are like this That pretzel grip?
This weird grip?
You're like, why would I grab somebody like that?
And then you do it and you're like, oh!
brendan schaub
If someone shows you.
But I feel like...
Not in my...
Yeah, it feels nice.
It feels nice.
joe rogan
Oh, you ain't getting none of that, are you?
brendan schaub
Some Brian Ortega shit.
joe rogan
Dude, his guillotine is ridiculous.
How does he grip it?
brendan schaub
And he's getting the...
He has all sorts of variations.
That motherfucker's nice with it.
He's here.
He's here a lot of times.
He goes flat.
He's so good at it.
joe rogan
So is he like Marcelo, like how Marcelo slides it under like a blade and then catches it?
brendan schaub
Yeah, and he's the best at the world in it.
But he also...
He's getting the respect now from the crowd, because if you remember when Frankie kind of faked that shot and he got a hold of his neck, the entire crowd goes, because now it's like, oh shit, they realize what he's capable of.
joe rogan
When that dude gets a hold of your neck, it's a totally different proposition.
What he did to Cub Swanson at the end of the first round, he had Cub basically out.
Cub was fucked, and it was just a matter of the time ran out, but that shit was fully locked in and Cub wasn't going anywhere.
brendan schaub
I got emotional yesterday when he came in the room because I haven't seen him since.
And I went, not even on air, I went, hold on, stop there.
I went, bro, hear me real quick.
Before anyone tells you this, I know you didn't touch all that.
I went, you're the number one featherweight in the world.
Remember when I coined you for that rough and nasty fight in Glendale, where the fuck it was?
Remember that?
Now you're the number one guy in the world, Brian.
Let that soak in.
joe rogan
He's the number one contender.
Max Holloway's the number one in the world.
brendan schaub
He's ranked number one in the world.
joe rogan
Right, but number one contender.
brendan schaub
True.
He's number one, all I'm saying.
Max Holloway's the champ.
joe rogan
Yeah, but that's the number one.
brendan schaub
Correct.
joe rogan
Until they fight.
brendan schaub
He's the champ, but he's ranked number one in the world.
That was the message.
joe rogan
I understand that.
If I was Max Holloway, I'd be like, motherfucker!
brendan schaub
Well, they're going to fight for sure.
Max Holloway is the greatest featherweight in the world right now.
But for Brian Ortega to go from, it's crazy to see, man.
joe rogan
It's a very interesting fight.
brendan schaub
It's nuts.
joe rogan
Because Ortega is super dangerous standing and on the ground he's on a totally different level than anybody else.
brendan schaub
They're also the same size.
Max Holloway usually has a big advantage with reach and size, but now they're kind of equal.
joe rogan
Dude, Holloway's something special though, man.
He's something special.
brendan schaub
Super special.
joe rogan
What he did to Aldo, what he did to Aldo was crazy.
unidentified
Twice.
joe rogan
Twice.
And the second time, more emphatic.
Like he knew he was going to do it.
brendan schaub
No, Max Holloway's something special.
Special.
joe rogan
And it's almost like when you watch what he does, you can't appreciate it until you see it a bunch of times.
Because what he's doing, he's not knocking someone out with one head kick.
He's not catching someone with some unbelievable, spectacular submission.
No, what he's doing is just fucking you up.
brendan schaub
He's outclassing everybody.
joe rogan
Regularly.
brendan schaub
But with technique, and he's ferocious.
What do you want to do?
You want to do technique?
You want to do pace?
unidentified
You want to brawl?
brendan schaub
You want to brawl?
I'm going to draw the line right here.
Come brawl.
See how that goes for you.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
And that's what Brian can't fall into.
And Brian will be, I'm sure, in Vegas eyes, the underdog, which rightfully so.
It's Max Holloway, the greatest featherweight in the world right now.
So with Brian, he just has to be careful.
Max will lure you into that brawl, and he's not going to lose those brawls.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's very good at brawl, and that's for damn sure.
And the crazy thing was the llamas fight.
brendan schaub
Oh my god.
joe rogan
Ricardo Lamas, he's beating his ass.
And then he just points to the center of the schedule.
Come on, man.
Let's fucking throw it out.
brendan schaub
No, he's one of my favorite fighters, man.
joe rogan
He just bites his mouthpiece down.
It's just windmilling at him.
brendan schaub
He can do that.
He can do technique.
You want to do jiu-jitsu, whatever you want to do.
joe rogan
Yep, whatever you want to do.
brendan schaub
It sounds like, from what Brian told me, is they're aiming for that international fight week.
So you have DC, Stipe, maybe Cyborg, Amanda Nunes.
Then you got Brian Ortega, Max Holloway.
joe rogan
Well, Max just broke his foot.
So what are we at right now?
How many weeks is he out?
Is he even out of his cast yet?
I don't think he's out of his cast.
I saw a photo of him on Instagram.
It was about two weeks ago he had a cast on.
brendan schaub
He's on Tough Helping DC, right, though?
joe rogan
He's probably doing it on crutches or standing on his cast.
So we're in March, April, May, June, July.
Four months.
A bone in a foot is not an easy one because you're always standing on it.
brendan schaub
No, and then when you get back, it's going to take time.
joe rogan
Yeah, and then you're going to be real hesitant to kick things.
brendan schaub
Well, hey, I'm not the one starting the room with International Fight Week.
That's what Ortega's hearing.
They want to do in Hawaii.
Obviously, Henner and Brian, they're like, we'd love to go to Hawaii, go to his hometown and do it.
But, you know, there's a lot of moving pieces for UFC to get to Hawaii.
joe rogan
Well, the other thing is inside and outside.
Like, how big of an arena do they have that's inside?
brendan schaub
Well, outside they have the stadium, right?
They could do the giant stadium, which would sell out.
joe rogan
It would sell out, but what if it rained?
Which it does in Hawaii all the time.
brendan schaub
Are we fighting in the rain?
joe rogan
Wet and Wild.
Remember that one?
brendan schaub
You wouldn't watch that?
joe rogan
King of the Cage?
brendan schaub
Yeah, you wouldn't watch that?
Rainy?
I mean, it'd be so weird, but...
joe rogan
No, you can't have that.
brendan schaub
It's a good risk to have.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a good risk to have.
brendan schaub
You can't have it, though.
joe rogan
That would be phenomenal for Brian.
If they could just slip to the ground real quick.
brendan schaub
Amazing for Brian.
joe rogan
He has a good advantage over almost everybody at 145 when it comes to jiu-jitsu.
Who doesn't he have an advantage of when it comes to jiu-jitsu at 145?
brendan schaub
There's no one.
No one more dangerous than T-City as far as on the ground.
joe rogan
The way he locks onto things, there's a finality to it.
brendan schaub
His strength and now his belief in himself with it.
He knows how dangerous he is.
And really, he's almost...
People haven't seen what that kid's capable of either.
We've seen some cool stuff, but some of his flying triangles, his flying arm bars, and his grips and stuff, and his guillotines, and he has a lot of cool setups that we haven't even touched on.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's one of the most impressive guys I've ever seen in terms of when he starts locking something up, you know it's over.
brendan schaub
Game over.
joe rogan
Whoa!
brendan schaub
Game over.
joe rogan
Just super high level.
Very interesting.
Because he doesn't have, like, world championship, you know, victories in his past, right?
brendan schaub
No, he didn't come up through, like, the IBJFF, whatever the hell it is, or he didn't go to metamorphosis, anything like that.
He's just this kid that grew up on the Gracie mats, and over time was that kid who was just like, God damn, he's good, and just kept with it, kept with it, kept with it.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Now the crazy thing is his striking has become just as deadly.
brendan schaub
Fluid, loose.
joe rogan
When you crack Frankie Edgar with an elbow like that, and then starch him with that uppercut, That's like, he can do that to you standing now?
brendan schaub
He lift him off his feet?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah.
It was incredible.
So where's the picnic?
Picnic's not standing.
brendan schaub
Not right now.
For Max Holloway, he's probably looking at it going, the picnic for me is standing because he's so goddamn, you know, good at it.
unidentified
But...
brendan schaub
You can't just say that's a huge advantage anymore after you see Ortega.
Because remember, he's knocked out Clay Guido with knees.
After you knock out Frankie Edgar like that, you at least have to acknowledge the kid can do some stand-up damage.
joe rogan
I think, yes.
But I think there's a real concern if they're going to try to fight in July with Halloween not having enough time to recover.
I hope I'm wrong.
But when I'm looking at that, when you just said it's March, I was like, yeah, it is March, isn't it?
April, May, June, July.
That's four months.
How healed up are you after four months?
Are you ready to throw kicks and get your foot checked?
brendan schaub
Well, who knows?
Maybe Dana told Brian, hey, we're shooting for July, summer, something like that, but they don't realize where Max Holloway is.
You know how this goes.
Maybe it's on another card.
joe rogan
Maybe I'm wrong, though.
Six weeks is what it takes for a bone to heal.
brendan schaub
I'm sure Max will tweet us or something.
Yeah, I'm good right now, bitch.
joe rogan
Google what it takes for a healthy, what is Max, like 28?
unidentified
No.
brendan schaub
27?
Aren't him and Brian Ortega the same age?
A couple of young bucks.
And this won't be the last time you see a Brian Ortega and Max Holloway fight.
joe rogan
What's that?
He's 26. 26. Sorry.
Take this 27. Go to, how long does it take?
Just Google, how long does it take?
For a bone on a 26-year-old man to heal.
brendan schaub
And then cut it in half because Max Holloway.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
You know how the doctors, you're going to be out about six months.
Well, yes, if I'm a soccer mom, six months.
For me, it's going to be about three.
Thank you, sir.
I'm going to push it at three, you giant pussy.
joe rogan
That's also a way to blow out those ACL reconstructions.
brendan schaub
That's how doctors are.
They used to all these old people.
Like, you're out for about a year.
joe rogan
That's true.
brendan schaub
You need three months, dog.
Kick rocks.
joe rogan
You know what, man?
This tendon injury that I got.
I got golfer's elbow.
That really made me aware.
There's a difference between injuring a muscle and injuring a tendon.
brendan schaub
100%.
joe rogan
They don't have much blood supply, man.
It's a fucking pain in the dick to get that to heal.
I'm stunned at how long it takes and how many different things I've done.
brendan schaub
Since you told me that I was doing pull-ups and it started hurting here I've stopped doing for a little bit.
joe rogan
It's just here It's just this I started hurting in there and that's went to here and I'm like, you know, I'm gonna chill out on that stuff I got a chunk of something floating around there too.
You got like the piece of hard something or another I fell once in Alaska Callan and I were on this deer hunting trip and I slipped off the side of a cliff and Cracked my elbow on this rock and it was hurting for months afterwards Like every time I would do a chin-up it would hurt And I just sucked it up.
And I think I might have chipped a piece of bone off in there.
I think there's something floating.
Or it's a piece of calcium that's built up because of irritation that can happen.
brendan schaub
Just let it ride, bro.
joe rogan
Yeah, let it ride, bro.
brendan schaub
You got this, man.
Bro science.
Dude, speaking of people getting fucked up, how about that girl cyborg fight?
She looks scared.
When she got hit with the first one, her eyes were like, oh my god.
And god bless her, man, because your first fight in the UFC, here you go, this is what you always want, here's Cyborg main event, short notice, enjoy that.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's kind of a crazy thing to do, right?
Title shot, your first fight ever in the UFC? Title shot, your first fight ever, and nobody knows, literally nobody in the UFC knows who you are.
brendan schaub
The UFC didn't even have a picture up of her until the week of the fight.
joe rogan
You've never...
I mean, she got submitted by Tanya Evinger.
brendan schaub
That's tough.
joe rogan
She submitted Tanya, and then Tanya submitted her.
And we know that she's a 135-er.
Yeah, that's her, like, wincing in pain as Cyborg lowers the boom on her.
brendan schaub
She took Cyborg down, though.
joe rogan
She did.
brendan schaub
That weird...
joe rogan
Yeah, well, that was obviously the strategy.
The strategy was to close the distance, get that clinch, drag Cyborg to the ground.
She's a 135-er, man.
She really is not big enough.
brendan schaub
But for Cyborg, it's like, what do you want me to do, man?
Like, there's no one in the division.
joe rogan
What is stopping that Megan Anderson chick from coming over?
brendan schaub
Her work visa.
She doesn't have it?
She was here illegally or something like that.
I know that was the hold-up there.
Some bullshit.
joe rogan
Lawyers get on that.
brendan schaub
I know, man.
Let's go.
Because she's a legit...
Competitor.
Big girl.
Pretty.
Australian.
Fight her ass off.
joe rogan
Tattooed up.
brendan schaub
She's actually in the same weight class.
joe rogan
Legit 145. Yeah.
brendan schaub
And she wants to fight.
Kat Zingano wanted to fight too.
She's talking all that shit for a while.
Can't someone call Trump?
joe rogan
Kat Zagano wants to fight?
brendan schaub
Well, Kat Zagano did want the Cyborg fight, but since she lost that last one to Viera, split decision, Cyborg's not sniffing that.
joe rogan
No, no, no, no.
There's no way.
She's going to have to get a couple of it, because she lost her last one, too.
brendan schaub
Who'd she lose to?
joe rogan
Juliana Pena?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
She's taking too much.
You could see the ring rust was there and the nerves were there.
She needs time.
She needs time so she can compete there.
With Cyborg, I'm not even trying to be funny here.
She's not going to lose to a single woman.
She needs to fight two women or there needs to be a dude in there.
But one girl's not going to beat her.
I hate to tell you guys.
I don't know how you're going to market that.
You're telling me you wouldn't watch her ever CM Punk?
joe rogan
Well, I think you put her as co-main event a lot on some cards that have a lot of great fights.
I just think that the problem is...
Oh, I'll watch her.
People are always going to be willing to watch whoever steps in and fights her.
But to have her be the center of a giant event, I think it's going to take a real challenger.
brendan schaub
Like Holly.
Those ratings were good.
joe rogan
Like, yeah, that was a good fight.
Because that was a fight where people were like, hmm, Holly, you know, is legit.
Like, real skillful boxer.
brendan schaub
It shows you how good Holly is, too, because it went to decision.
Although she...
You know, Holly was never really winning that fight.
joe rogan
She made some hard shots.
brendan schaub
Yeah, she got lit up.
joe rogan
You realize when you're in there fighting Cyborg, it's a totally different proposition.
brendan schaub
When you see Cyborg, you're just like, oh man, she's never going to lose until Father Time, I guess, touches her on the shoulder.
But right now...
unidentified
She's only 32. Isn't that crazy?
joe rogan
It's not young, but it's not old either.
brendan schaub
No, she's not old.
joe rogan
That's prime.
brendan schaub
She could do this for another five years.
joe rogan
Easy.
When, you know, you think about how long she's been around, like way back in the Gino Carano fight, how old was she then?
brendan schaub
Jesus, man.
Super young.
joe rogan
Super young.
brendan schaub
She's been doing it for a minute.
joe rogan
Dude, do you ever watch that fight again?
brendan schaub
It's not a bad fight.
People don't give Gina enough credit.
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
Gina mounted her at one point, Tom.
brendan schaub
Gina, first team, all die in peace.
Captain of the team.
joe rogan
Yeah, she's pretty hot.
But out of respect to Kevin Ross, this will be the end of this conversation when it comes to how hot Gina Carano is.
brendan schaub
Oh, is that our man?
What's he do?
joe rogan
Kevin Ross, the Muay Thai fighter.
brendan schaub
Oh, yeah, he's all tatted up.
They're still together?
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Good for them, man.
Good for them.
Hopefully she's a Deadpool, too.
joe rogan
Oh, here's the fight.
Yeah, she's got to be very cool, because he's very cool.
Damn, look at this at the beginning of the fight.
She's just teeing off on Gina.
She takes her down and fucks up, and Gina winds up on top of her.
brendan schaub
Look at Gina doing work.
People forget how good that girl was, man.
joe rogan
Oh, she's very good.
Look at the cyborg girl for the heel hook.
brendan schaub
Every girl should give her royalties for starting women's MMA, let's be real.
joe rogan
She actually had a half-assed heel hook here, or a half-decent heel hook here.
brendan schaub
Gina turning and getting out of it.
joe rogan
Yeah, she popped out.
brendan schaub
Yeah, Gina Cronk.
I mean, she just...
Think how big Gina Cronk would be if she was in the sport right now.
unidentified
Oh, Jesus.
Cyborg's hitting her with some hammers.
joe rogan
This was, uh, yeah, she would be gigantic.
brendan schaub
She'd be so big.
joe rogan
Because she was big when the UFC was really in its infancy.
brendan schaub
She was big on Showtime.
joe rogan
What year do you think this fight was, if you had to guess?
brendan schaub
2004?
Six.
jamie vernon
Nine.
joe rogan
2009?
Really?
Nine.
Wow.
Cyborg, vicious kick to the body.
So Cyborg was only like, what, 22-ish?
brendan schaub
Her takedowns are so bad.
joe rogan
She fell down again and this time Gina mounts her.
Look at that.
Like, people forget.
brendan schaub
Gina's getting a mount because of Cyborg's mistakes on these takedowns.
joe rogan
That's great, but she's still mounted.
brendan schaub
Hell yeah.
This is the most trouble we've ever seen Cyborg in besides that Muay Thai fight.
joe rogan
And Gina's gonna let her up.
brendan schaub
No, Gina was an absolute monster.
People forget, man.
But with Cyborg, I'm dead serious.
I'm even trying to be funny.
Unless two women enter that octagon against her, she's not gonna lose.
Or you need to get Khabib up in that bitch.
joe rogan
Well, she obviously has some physical attributes.
Now, when you think about the rest of the women at 145, no one stands out.
What they're going to do is Amanda Nunes.
brendan schaub
That's the fight.
Amanda Nunes wants it.
Cyborg wants it.
I like the fight.
I think technically Amanda Nunes is better as far as a technician as Cyborg.
However, let's say that's five rounds, even three rounds.
Over those three rounds, I don't think she possesses the same power as Cyborg.
You know what I'm saying?
When Cyborg hits a girl, you see it on their face.
joe rogan
The stoppage of Gina Carano, we're watching on the big screen, it's horrific.
brendan schaub
Yeah, it's a tough one.
joe rogan
It's horrific.
When she gets her down, like the hammers that she drops on her.
brendan schaub
I'm more of a Cyborg fan now.
Back then, I was first-team All-Gina.
No one wanted that.
joe rogan
No one wanted that.
Did she test positive for this fight?
brendan schaub
No, I thought it was after this.
joe rogan
It was another fight.
brendan schaub
Yeah, it was in this fight.
That'd be way bigger news.
But Cyborg Amanda's a good fight.
That's a real good fight.
And I'm a huge Amanda Nunes fan.
I just think over that time, she's going to land some shots on Cyborg.
Cyborg will get hit, but when Cyborg hits you, you can't play that game with her.
There's no female in the world who can play that game with her.
You give me one, I'll take one.
You here.
You here.
It just doesn't work.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Who knows, man?
That's interesting.
brendan schaub
It's a great fight, though.
joe rogan
I like that fight.
Amanda's got legit one-punch power.
Legit smack-em-up power.
Real black belt in jiu-jitsu.
Very good at fighting.
Knows how to fight.
brendan schaub
Phenomenal fighter.
joe rogan
Yeah, she knows how to fight.
Forget about all the things that she can do.
She puts it together well.
brendan schaub
You know who can fight?
Cyborg.
unidentified
Yep.
brendan schaub
She's the greatest female fighter of all time.
joe rogan
It's hard to argue.
brendan schaub
It's hard to argue, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, it's hard to argue.
There's some caveats in there, obviously, but it's hard to argue.
brendan schaub
Yeah, there's some caveats, I guess, if we're going to go down that road.
But still, in the UFC with the USADA testing, she's still the best.
So that kind of takes it out of the window.
Well, she was the best back then.
She tested hot.
Cool.
Now she's in the most strict testing pool of all time.
She's still dominating.
So where's your argument there now?
joe rogan
Well, you know the argument.
brendan schaub
That she retained all the shit from when she was taking it back in the day?
joe rogan
You definitely retained something.
brendan schaub
Not everything, though.
Ask Hector Lombard.
joe rogan
It's a question.
brendan schaub
Ask Vitor Belfort.
joe rogan
Right.
That's true.
But those are men.
It's different.
The idea of a guy taking shit or a girl taking it.
Don't you think they're different?
brendan schaub
It's different, but it's different.
There's an argument there, but it's not different to the point where after, was that 2009 you said?
So after nine years, she's still retaining this muscle mass.
She was born a bigger female.
joe rogan
That's true, too.
That's true, too.
No matter what Gabby Garcia did, she's still 6'4".
brendan schaub
Correct.
She's still a giant.
joe rogan
Dude, she was at the UFC. I was like, holy shit.
brendan schaub
You're scared.
joe rogan
Terrifying.
She's way too big.
brendan schaub
I'm terrified of all of them.
unidentified
She's giant.
joe rogan
She's so big.
brendan schaub
She wasn't sitting like a lady, so security had to come behind you and DC and step in front of her.
joe rogan
She can't sit like a lady.
She's got Hulk legs.
brendan schaub
She might.
joe rogan
How the fuck is she crossing those legs, bro?
brendan schaub
It's too much damage.
joe rogan
They're so big.
If you have one of them super tank crossfit squat girls, those giant legs.
brendan schaub
With the blood ass and the quads in the front.
joe rogan
Can they even cross their legs?
brendan schaub
I'm sure.
joe rogan
How could they cross their legs?
brendan schaub
You can cross your legs.
You have some thick ass legs.
I cross my legs as comfortable.
unidentified
And I got a pterodactyl dick in between.
joe rogan
Dude, I don't think pterodactyls have big dicks.
You might want to change that one up.
unidentified
It's a bird.
brendan schaub
Well, they have tails.
Do they?
I don't know.
joe rogan
They're a bird.
brendan schaub
They're not a dinosaur.
joe rogan
Well, they're not a dinosaur, yeah.
Did you know that?
They're in a class themselves.
brendan schaub
Yeah, someone was telling me that.
joe rogan
My kid told me that.
Oh, that's right.
A fucking seven-year-old.
See, this way right here, this is uncomfortable as fuck.
brendan schaub
Oh, I'm so comfy.
joe rogan
This is a nut cruncher.
brendan schaub
I'm so comfortable.
joe rogan
Yeah, but you got an extra foot of leg.
brendan schaub
Yeah, there's a lot of room here.
But with Gabby Garcia, remember when she was like big, bloated girl and she got shred city?
joe rogan
Yeah, shred city for a while.
brendan schaub
All natural.
joe rogan
Oh, totally natural.
brendan schaub
Shred city.
And then she back to in between?
joe rogan
She's back to giant again.
I think Japan...
brendan schaub
Why not try and cut to 45?
joe rogan
What are you talking about?
brendan schaub
45?
Dude, she's 6'4".
joe rogan
Do you know if she's 6'4"?
brendan schaub
You want to be in the UFC or not?
joe rogan
She can't make 45. What are you going to do?
brendan schaub
Cyborg cut from 70 to make it?
joe rogan
She's good friends with Cyborg.
Look how big she was when she got small and how big she is now.
brendan schaub
She was hot when she was small.
joe rogan
She wasn't bad.
That's what I saw.
That's what I saw in the air.
Like, look at that.
That's when she was on the Ultimate Fighter with Vanderlei.
brendan schaub
I wonder where she's at mentally when she sees herself.
Does she dig that?
Because a lot of dudes are into that.
joe rogan
She can't go online.
Look at that size!
brendan schaub
I had a friend who's a female bodybuilder.
Thick.
Thicker than a Snickers.
Definitely Deca, Gold's Gym, just in her ass.
Yeah, just protein powder seeping out of her goddamn eyes.
joe rogan
Get that pink one above it, to the right.
Above and to the right.
brendan schaub
Okay.
joe rogan
That's acceptable.
You're not mad at it.
Not mad at it at all.
So at one point in time in the recent future, she got down to the body of a really hot CrossFit.
brendan schaub
How much did she weigh there though?
joe rogan
She's probably still a thousand pounds.
She's six foot four.
brendan schaub
That's mean, bro.
What do you think?
160 there?
joe rogan
No, I bet she's 200 there.
She's six foot four?
brendan schaub
She's 200. Bro, she's not 200 pounds there.
joe rogan
I bet she's 200, don't you think?
unidentified
Jamie.
joe rogan
Jamie?
She's six foot four.
Come on, bro.
Okay, maybe she's 195, but I'm not going any lower than that.
That's a big girl.
brendan schaub
Is she a legit 6'4"?
joe rogan
Pretty sure.
Find out how tall she is.
brendan schaub
She's stronger than me.
That's whatever.
But there's some dude to her.
There's a market for that.
I got a friend who was a bodybuilder.
She was busy because she would do a little bit of strains for some change and get oiled up.
joe rogan
She's only 6'2".
I'm sorry.
236. 6'2".
unidentified
We can make 145. She's gotta lose a hundred pounds.
brendan schaub
No big deal.
Anthony Rumble John's going, say what?
I got you.
joe rogan
What do you think would happen if she just got completely off of everything and just ran marathons?
What do you think she'd get down to?
I don't think she's lower than 160. She's what?
236?
Look at the fucking size of her!
brendan schaub
Probably 170. Jesus Christ!
joe rogan
Look at that girl.
I'm going to death right now.
brendan schaub
Look at this poor girl.
Did you see her beat up the grandma?
joe rogan
Yes, with the knee brace.
She beat up a grandma with a knee brace, bro.
That grandma is a struggle city.
Here's her.
First of all, she's really good at jiu-jitsu, by the way.
brendan schaub
Phenomenal.
You know Mackenzie Dern and her have matches.
joe rogan
Yeah, Mackenzie beat her on points.
brendan schaub
How crazy is that?
joe rogan
That's how badass Mackenzie Dern is.
She poked this chick.
Apparently.
brendan schaub
If I'm that chick, I'd fake like I get poked, too.
joe rogan
Yeah, good move.
I'd fall down.
I'd black out.
brendan schaub
She's rushing, though.
She'll get murdered.
She gets back to Russia.
joe rogan
She's got to get in there.
Someone's got to bet.
I bet you make it to one minute.
Survive any way you can for one minute.
brendan schaub
Dude, I just...
joe rogan
Boom.
brendan schaub
How do they not have her fight, dude?
It's a whole fight.
Oh, that's it?
jamie vernon
That was a no contest.
joe rogan
Oh, good move for her.
Good for the Russian.
She's like, no, no more can go.
The fight has gone one minute.
My obligation is over here.
brendan schaub
Dude, think about Herbert Cyborg.
Herbert Cyborg.
joe rogan
Cyborg will fuck her up.
brendan schaub
Jeff Nowitzki, take a hike for a couple weeks.
joe rogan
Cyborg is so much better standing up than her.
She would have to take Cyborg down, and Cyborg would fuck her up.
brendan schaub
But wouldn't you want to watch that?
joe rogan
No!
brendan schaub
Really?
joe rogan
For obvious reasons that we can't talk about.
Look at that.
There she is right there.
But legit black belt in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu.
brendan schaub
You can say whatever you want about it, but the girl works her ass off.
joe rogan
Works her ass off.
No matter what you take, you don't get that big unless you're training hard.
She's just dropping bombs on this chick.
Her striking's gotten a lot better.
A lot more smooth and relaxed.
Like, she was having a hard time when she first got...
unidentified
Ooh, she got tagged.
brendan schaub
Oh, shit, she got dropped.
joe rogan
Oh, Jesus, she got tagged.
brendan schaub
That Leah DeTapa is doing work.
She looks like...
joe rogan
Oh, she got tagged again.
brendan schaub
Damn, her striking is...
Terrible.
joe rogan
Well, she's hurt.
She's hurt.
brendan schaub
She's just winging it.
I know, but this is what got me, Joe.
joe rogan
Oh, look at this chick's going, come on, come on, come to the center.
Come to the center.
brendan schaub
Damn, she's like, bring it!
joe rogan
She's getting a little emotional, though.
brendan schaub
That Ryzen's just free-for-all, and I appreciate it.
joe rogan
Ryzen's so gangster.
brendan schaub
They're so gangster.
joe rogan
They're trying to bring back the golden days.
brendan schaub
I know.
You know what?
That day's over, so kind of give it a rest, but I like what they're doing.
You see, Bellator brought Cro-Crop back.
unidentified
I know.
brendan schaub
Cro-Crop Roy.
joe rogan
Just don't test anybody.
brendan schaub
We've seen that.
joe rogan
Just don't test anybody.
brendan schaub
Please.
Please.
joe rogan
Bellator, just stop testing people.
brendan schaub
That's all I was saying with the Jon Jones thing against Brock Lesnar.
Hey, Jeff Nowitzki, let's go grab a cup of coffee while these boys rumble, huh?
joe rogan
Hey, Jeff, I love you.
brendan schaub
Why don't you go on vacation to Hawaii while Jon and Brock take a little trip here?
joe rogan
The UFC is clean.
But the belt of it doesn't have to be.
The UFC decided to go down that USADA road, and they've committed to it.
It's changed the game.
Legitimately.
brendan schaub
For sure.
joe rogan
But, let's be honest.
When you've got a legend like Krokop, he still wants to fight.
Just give him a little help.
brendan schaub
100%?
unidentified
Just a little help.
joe rogan
Come on.
brendan schaub
That's real.
joe rogan
I'm not saying he needs it.
It's not a knock on him.
He's upset at me.
Because Boss Rutten was saying that during one of his fights that they paid him all this money and they had to bring all this money back.
Like, Boss is explaining how they brought him into a room.
brendan schaub
Boss said it.
You didn't say it.
joe rogan
Boss said it.
But he thinks that I said it.
brendan schaub
Because it was on your show?
joe rogan
Yeah, it was on my show.
I didn't know what Boss was going to say.
And if I heard anything about it, I heard it from Boss.
Because Boss worked there.
And Boss is just fucking hilarious.
And he's telling me about how they would pay those guys in cash.
brendan schaub
Well, he doesn't like you.
He likes me and I punched him in the face.
So, me and him are friends.
joe rogan
But I just want him to know.
I'm a big fan.
I don't want anything bad for Crow Cup.
I always enjoyed watching him.
He's the example that I always use of what happens when you get an explosive striker versus a technical striker in MMA. I think when you get a high-level striker that's used to a certain style of fighting, and then they fight in MMA, sometimes that style doesn't translate over.
I don't think Peter Ertz would have done that good as an MMA fighter.
I don't think Ernesto Hoost would have done that good.
They would have to have changed the way they strike because they're so technical and really fun to watch fighting.
They would brawl for sure.
But what Merkle would do was have these big one shots, these big one kicks, these big one punches, just jump in with one shot, super fast and quick.
That is really beneficial in MMA, more so even than kickboxing.
brendan schaub
Because of the volume?
joe rogan
Well, he's fighting guys who are, at the time, were...
They were concerned about takedowns.
You're concerned about all these different things that could possibly happen in an MMA fight, right?
So no one stands the way they stand in kickboxing.
When they're standing in kickboxing, they're more sideways, they're more light on their feet, they're moving around, because they don't have to worry about being taken down.
It's a totally different proposition.
brendan schaub
It's also a dance and a rhythm.
joe rogan
Yeah, so a guy like Hoos would just pick you apart, start leg-kicking you, chopping down.
If he's got to think about takedowns, even really great strikers are susceptible to one-pot shots in MMA because there's so many more things you're thinking of.
That's why Kevin Randleman cracked Krokop and knocked him out in that fight.
Because he's got to worry about the takedown.
Like, if they were just in a kickboxing fight, Kevin Randleman and Krokop just in K1. Nightmare for Kevin Randleman.
It's a nightmare for Kevin Randleman.
brendan schaub
Think about Wonderboy Woodley.
You know, Wonderboy all day, if they get a kickboxing match, Wonderboy lights him up.
Woodley, that one-shot power, and he dropped Wonderboy before.
joe rogan
I gotta say that even in kickboxing, Woodley, I think, would do very well because he's so powerful.
brendan schaub
You'd be able to manage it more, though.
You'd be able to manage it.
joe rogan
You'd be able to manage it.
You'd catch more, and also his punches aren't as dangerous.
So when he's hitting you, it's not as dangerous.
You can catch the kicks a little bit better.
It's still not fun.
brendan schaub
Hell no.
But Woodley and that octagon's a nightmare with that one-shot power.
joe rogan
Yeah, those little gloves.
brendan schaub
God, hopefully he fights soon, man.
joe rogan
He's going to.
He had shoulder surgery.
He had a torn labrum.
So he's pounding on that, trying to get that fixed up.
brendan schaub
Probably be Dos Anjos.
joe rogan
That's what they're going to do.
Maybe they'll do that International Fight Week, too.
Dun, dun, dun.
brendan schaub
Everybody getting paid.
Sizzler.
We're going to Sizzler.
joe rogan
We're trying to get these ratings up for Fox Buys WWE. Can you imagine if Brock's first fight back is Jon Jones?
brendan schaub
Yeah, I can.
joe rogan
Yeah, I can, sir.
This is the card I'm looking at, motherfuckers.
brendan schaub
Not in July.
joe rogan
Yes!
Yes!
Stipe, DC. John Jones, Brock.
brendan schaub
Preach.
joe rogan
Tyron Woodley, Dos Anjos.
brendan schaub
Ortega, Max Holloway.
Amanda Nunez, Cyborg.
We bustin' this load on this one card.
We can still do the ratings.
joe rogan
Dude, that place would be...
That would be insane.
It would be insane.
That would be one of the greatest cards of all time.
brendan schaub
And then on top, you sprinkle in?
Let's sprinkle a little CM Punk.
joe rogan
You wouldn't be able to do that one.
brendan schaub
Why?
joe rogan
Because that one needs so much money.
The one that I'm thinking about?
brendan schaub
Which one?
joe rogan
You know the one.
brendan schaub
Which one, Joe?
joe rogan
The one that was a lot of sprinkles on top.
brendan schaub
Which one?
joe rogan
You know that boxer guy?
What's his name?
brendan schaub
Oh, you're talking about Floyd Tampunk.
joe rogan
Something money that we keep talking about?
If that happened, this is, by the way, I believe you and I were the first to speculate this publicly.
brendan schaub
Correct.
joe rogan
I think that's the fight.
I think that's the fight to make.
brendan schaub
I agree.
joe rogan
I don't know if it'll ever happen, but I think if it does happen, it happens on its own individual card.
You put a kick-ass card underneath it, but I don't know if you put a UFC 200-sized kick-ass card underneath it.
brendan schaub
No, because Floyd and CM Punk's going to sell.
And also, if you're Floyd, just looking at it from Floyd's perspective, alright, pay me this much money, which is a boatload of cash, and also, give me the guy who has zero experience like me in CM Punk, who's a huge name.
So it makes sense.
joe rogan
It's the only fight to make for Floyd, because Conor will literally kill him.
brendan schaub
Yeah, he can't do that.
joe rogan
It wouldn't be fair.
It's not fair.
brendan schaub
Conor would beat up Floyd and CM Punk in the same night.
joe rogan
People would understand the difference between Conor boxing Floyd, which he got clearly outclassed, but he hit him.
Like, Floyd's not going to do anything.
brendan schaub
No, it's no competition.
It doesn't make sense.
unidentified
It's going to be awful.
brendan schaub
It doesn't make sense.
Floyd's ceiling probably makes sense.
joe rogan
He'll get kicked once in the legs and be like, oh my god, now I can't walk.
And then he gets kicked in the same spot.
Like, oh Jesus Christ.
And he's folding over.
Then he's getting front kicked in the gut.
Conor's talking shit to him.
brendan schaub
You get head kicked viciously.
And then you're on that highlight reel.
And the UFC's using that loop over and over and over.
joe rogan
And it takes one clinch.
Just one clinch.
And you're on your back.
brendan schaub
If you're CM Punk then you're fighting Floyd, I'm army crawling over to Floyd.
Go ahead and punch me, bro.
joe rogan
I say you stand karate style.
You stand karate style and you throw sidekicks.
And you just walk towards him throwing sidekicks.
There's so much distance.
brendan schaub
Until you get him to the cage?
joe rogan
Yes!
Why would you even want to box him?
You stand total Wonderboy side stance.
Just stand like this.
Way back, Liotta Machida style, and just throw sidekicks.
Keep him off you.
And then when the move is, whenever it happens, Get that clench and throw fucking everything in there.
The guy weighs 145 legitimate pounds.
That's what Floyd weighs.
brendan schaub
I would even just bear hug him and just pull him on top of me and sweep him and get full amount.
I would literally just come at Floyd like this.
Just walk straight forward like the Terminator.
joe rogan
Floyd can make welterweight.
He can make welterweight in boxing.
He could.
brendan schaub
That's the only problem with this fight that we're speculating.
What weight are they going to fight at?
CM Punk's not small.
joe rogan
No, he was a legit-sized 170. So he would...
brendan schaub
We going catchweight here?
joe rogan
He'd have to be catchweight.
brendan schaub
At 60?
joe rogan
See, that's the other thing.
You drain CM Punk down to 160, and he's fucksville.
brendan schaub
Yeah, let's do that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, here's the thing.
At 170, he doesn't have a lot of muscle, but he's got a little bit of fat.
He might be able to do 65 if he does it smart and long.
He takes a long time to do it, adjusts his calories, really ramps up his cardio, just forces himself to do an hour of cardio after every training session.
brendan schaub
Has anyone seen him lately?
That man looking thinner.
joe rogan
No.
He's gonna have to look a lot thinner to get that fight.
Or Floyd just says, I don't give a fuck.
I'm gonna light this dude up.
Because when they're standing, when he's got to close the distance on CM Punk, Floyd has four ounce gloves on.
Are you fucking kidding me?
brendan schaub
And he's impossible to hit.
joe rogan
You're not gonna hit him.
That's not happening.
brendan schaub
And he can catch it coming in and it's gonna be fucking night-night.
joe rogan
Even the leg kicks.
Like, boy, can you even kick his legs?
How fast does CM Punk kick?
You know what I mean?
We're not talking about, like, Yadson Clyde.
brendan schaub
That's not the move for CM Punk.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Sir, just do what you gotta do to get to the ground.
joe rogan
Didn't he have a karate background?
brendan schaub
CM Punk?
joe rogan
Yes.
unidentified
As much as I have a karate background.
brendan schaub
And I'm not making fun of him.
joe rogan
Wasn't there, like, a video of him when he was, like, 13 or some shit?
brendan schaub
I guess.
Doesn't count.
I play dodgeball, too.
unidentified
Not on my resume.
brendan schaub
Not on my resume.
Doesn't count.
joe rogan
Soccer player.
I'm going to put that on my fucking Twitter handle now.
brendan schaub
Guys that do that.
joe rogan
I played soccer when I was six.
brendan schaub
Yeah, that doesn't count, man.
joe rogan
I played it.
I get pissed so hard, bro.
Go ahead, go piss, man.
You alright?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
Jesus.
brendan schaub
I don't want to throw it.
joe rogan
It's that cold brew, this new cold brew we're snacking on.
Goddamn, Jamie.
What were you showing me right before the podcast started about some dude who just retired because he had a brain injury?
jamie vernon
Oh, yeah.
There's an NFL running back.
I was just seeing the story, so I don't know too much about it, but I know who he is.
His name is Beanie Wells.
He was a running back in the NFL. He had an MRI, and it's showing brain injury.
So he's already publicly stating he's having problems with it.
He's having memory loss, speech problems.
joe rogan
How old is this gentleman?
jamie vernon
29, I think.
joe rogan
Oh, man.
Yeah, man.
jamie vernon
He's already going under treatment right now, so he would be one of the first people I've heard of that is already getting treatment for what I guess they can tell now about potential So what do they do?
joe rogan
How are they treating it?
There he is, handsome fella.
Former Cardinals, RB, Beanie Wells, dealing with traumatic brain injury.
So they know for a fact that he has it.
So he must be one of the recipients of one of the newer tests that allows them to see while a person's alive.
Because it used to be they used to have to do an autopsy to find out what's wrong with your brain.
jamie vernon
Here's his quote.
He says he has some plaque separation.
joe rogan
It shows that you've experienced some sort of TBI. And says when you have plaques, yeah, separation shows you've experienced some traumatic brain injury.
Obviously that traumatic injury for me would come from playing football.
Not only that, they had some cells tacked onto that separated plaque that I needed to get under control.
What does that mean, you think?
jamie vernon
I mean, extra cells I only know as being bad.
unidentified
Cancer.
jamie vernon
Cancer type stuff.
joe rogan
Right.
Still not out of the woods yet, but I'm hopeful.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Well, at least he sees it, right?
You know, and he got a hold of it now.
When did he stop playing?
jamie vernon
Pretty recently.
And he would also be in Columbus, which would be at Ohio State, where they have not only like the James Cancer place, but I think they're doing the tests or some of the early tests on this.
joe rogan
Oh.
jamie vernon
If I remember correctly.
joe rogan
Okay.
jamie vernon
I think you even told me it was at Ohio State.
Maybe not.
joe rogan
I don't know.
I talk too much.
I forget some of the shit I say.
I really do.
I've realized that when someone asked me what podcast Eric Weinstein and Heather Hying were on, and I had to think about it.
It's like 1,080-something.
And I thought about, like, how the fuck could I ever remember what I said if they were all one hour?
A thousand different conversations plus fight companions.
jamie vernon
Yeah, this is, I think it is Ohio State.
There's a thing, and this is on their medical, Wexner Center Medical website.
They have advanced imaging and neurosensitive care and rehab services.
joe rogan
That's right.
brendan schaub
We're talking brain trauma?
joe rogan
Yeah, we're talking about that football player that just got tested.
He had plaque separation in his brain.
brendan schaub
How long did he play for, Jamie?
jamie vernon
So probably about seven years, I think?
brendan schaub
In the NFL. He's obviously the exception, though.
You know, there's obviously a problem, but he's definitely the exception.
joe rogan
I wonder.
brendan schaub
Football's been around for so long.
joe rogan
It's been around for so long.
I think a lot of people just live with it, you know?
And the thing is, what is that APOA3? APOE3? Something that Rhonda Patrick was talking about, like a gene.
Somehow, the way it expresses itself...
I know I'm butchering this for the science people going crazy, but it's more likely that you would get traumatic brain injury if you have it or you do not have it.
brendan schaub
There's actually tests for that.
joe rogan
Alzheimer's disease.
Yeah, early onset Alzheimer's.
brendan schaub
Yeah, there's a test you can take to see if you're more susceptible to CT than others.
joe rogan
Yeah, here it is.
It says there are three types of APOE genes called alleles.
APOE2, E3, and E4. Everyone has two copies of the gene in the combination that determines your APO genotype.
The E2 allele is the rarest form of the APOE and carrying some one copy appears to reduce the risk of developing Alzheimer's by up to 40% APOE3 is the most common allele and doesn't seem to influence risk.
The APOE4 allele...
I know I'm fucking that word up.
Someone's screaming at their phone right now.
Present in approximately 10 to 15% of people increases risk for Alzheimer's and lowers the age of onset.
That's what I think they think is connected to traumatic brain injury.
brendan schaub
I think it was APOE4. Well, whatever gene I got, I've been knocked out so many times I'm happy as fuck.
joe rogan
Get that one.
brendan schaub
Whatever that is, get that one.
It's made me so much happier.
joe rogan
Well, aren't you happy though because your life is going great?
Don't you think that's a factor?
I think there's something to be said for that that people don't...
Look, everybody knows that having good friends in your life, having a good relationship, having a family, and having a career that you're happy with, all those things make you feel good.
It's one of the reasons why people strive for them.
Don't you think that has an impact on overall happiness?
brendan schaub
I think, you know, with football players and fighters, MMA, boxers, stuff like that, I think one of the advantages I have is I found my passion and I'm pursuing that so I don't, you know, it keeps me happy and it keeps my brain where I have to be super creative so it's keeping me sharp.
I think a lot of athletes, and soldiers for that matter, they get done with this High stress, high risk job, and they get put in the real world, and they can't find their lane.
And it's, oh, it's PTSD, or oh, it's brain trauma, it's CT. Now you're just depressed, man, because you went from being the superstar for doing this high-level job to fit in with society now.
It's tough.
joe rogan
Well, I don't think it's no, you're not.
I think it's both.
brendan schaub
That's why I'm saying it's a factor.
joe rogan
It's a factor, but there's a lot of physical factors, especially guys who've been around blasts.
brendan schaub
100%.
That's a legit issue.
I'm just saying if people are as fortunate as me to go through this sort of traumatic fighting career and then find a passion, your true passion, you'd be way better off.
I have no advice for that.
I don't know what to tell you, but if you could find something you're into, it's definitely going to help you.
joe rogan
I think for everything in life, you know, if you were a dentist, you didn't want to be a dentist anymore, and you really wanted to make paintings, if you could really figure out a way to do that, you'd be happier.
Like, whatever that thing is.
It's just really hard for some people to find a thing.
That's one of the things I've talked to people about.
I don't really know what I want to do with myself.
brendan schaub
And then they asked me for advice.
I'm like, man, no one told me.
It doesn't really work like that.
You've got to figure that out.
There's literally not a book you can read, no one can talk to that's going to...
Point you in the right direction.
joe rogan
Here's the best piece of advice.
Take some action.
Take some action.
Do something.
unidentified
Keep moving.
joe rogan
If that doesn't work, correct it.
Find something else.
But keep moving.
brendan schaub
Keep moving.
joe rogan
When you're sitting at home going, what do I do?
That's when it's a problem.
And when you're texting your friends going, hey, got any advice for me?
My advice for you is don't ask me for advice.
brendan schaub
Yeah, don't DM me for advice.
joe rogan
Get your shit together.
I don't do that to people.
I don't call people up and say, hey man, what should I do?
I just do things.
brendan schaub
Correct.
joe rogan
Just go do something.
brendan schaub
Agree.
joe rogan
And it might not be the thing.
You might say, okay, well now I know I don't want to do that.
You can try something else.
brendan schaub
Yeah, don't be afraid to fuck up, though.
I fuck up all the time.
joe rogan
You gotta go down.
You gotta take risks.
You got to.
People are so scared.
They want to be in that harbor.
They want to stay safe.
Keep me under the blanket.
Oh, the cushions.
brendan schaub
That's normal.
Which is weird because I take risks when it comes to my family, my friends.
Even with Brian Ortega, I'm like, don't do this.
Don't do that.
I'm super like...
But with myself, I'm pretty reckless.
But with them, I'm like, no, no, no.
Wait, please wait.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Which is strange.
What do you think of Stipe and DC? I think it's literally the greatest super fight the UFC's ever made.
I'm so excited for it.
joe rogan
It's an amazing fight.
When you see how well DC handled Volkan and Ozdemir, and you see what Stipe did to Francis, it almost makes sense.
While John is out, and Brock is busy throwing his piss into a microwave.
He's got that same pump system that I use out there on my float tank.
unidentified
He pinches into that thing.
joe rogan
They strain that bitch.
brendan schaub
The reason why it's a super fight, too, is because how tough is this fight to break down?
If someone's like, I'm positive Stipe's going to win, you're like, no, you're not.
I'm positive DC's going to take him down.
No, you're not.
And the thing is, it's like, well, now DC's fighting at heavyweight.
Yeah, he's undefeated at heavyweight.
They motherfucking fight at heavyweight.
He's actually one of the best heavyweights of all time.
joe rogan
Imagine if one day we see Nowitzki's wearing all diamonds and shit.
brendan schaub
Just balling out of control.
joe rogan
And Brock Lesnar, that was what I would do, Faustin Nowitzki, if the day Brock Lesnar gets in the UFC, I will show up in a full fur coat with a giant diamond-encrusted cross.
brendan schaub
Pimpin', pimpin', pimpin'.
joe rogan
Diamonds on every finger.
Gucci sunglasses indoors.
And just sit there.
Nobody told me how to dress.
brendan schaub
What's up, son?
joe rogan
Just sit there like you got paid.
brendan schaub
We did it.
Another one.
It was just sitting in the cage side.
joe rogan
Imagine.
brendan schaub
If just like that's the way to do it so everybody know like super obvious if you have to bet on a Joe John Jones Brock Lesnar the fights happening, huh?
joe rogan
Boy, I hope so I hope so.
brendan schaub
I think it's happening.
joe rogan
If I was Brock, I wouldn't take that fight.
brendan schaub
Really?
joe rogan
No!
Get a fight under your belt first.
brendan schaub
Nah, we don't have time for that bullshit.
There's no warm-ups as Brock Lesnar.
Who are you going to fight warm-up?
joe rogan
Francis?
Francis.
Oh, Jesus.
What do you want to do to the poor man?
brendan schaub
Francis or Brock?
Brock.
Excuse me, sir?
I'm blast doubling like I'm at fucking Minnesota U right through that gentleman.
joe rogan
Or, in the first round, Francis is superhuman freak strong, and you've got to wear him out before you can take him down.
But you have to stay conscious long enough to wear him out before you take him down.
And he's throwing nuclear Putin-style missiles at your fucking head.
And when they land, you're going to see sparks that's going to remind you of Alistair Overeem, and you're going to go a whole Holy fuck, we're going out here.
unidentified
If you play that game.
brendan schaub
If you play that game.
If I'm Brock Lesnar, I am blast doubling.
I'm coming with a singlet on.
I'm blast doubling through Francis.
joe rogan
Brock is older.
brendan schaub
He'd be the best wrestler that Francis ever faced.
joe rogan
Who's that?
brendan schaub
It'd be Brock.
No, Brock's the best wrestler.
joe rogan
I thought you'd say he beat the best wrestler.
brendan schaub
No, no, I'm saying he'd be the best wrestler that Francis ever fought.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
brendan schaub
That's a problem.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, for sure.
brendan schaub
He's also ginormous.
joe rogan
Right, but he doesn't have the stand-up acumen that Stipe does.
Like, Brock is just not as good in the stand-up.
brendan schaub
We don't need any of that, sir.
joe rogan
You definitely need a little.
brendan schaub
Nah.
joe rogan
You're gonna need a little.
brendan schaub
Nah.
joe rogan
Look what Alistair did.
Alistair kept him off.
Remember that?
brendan schaub
For a hot second.
Then Alistair wanted to play the Rock'em Sock'em robots and got flatlined.
joe rogan
No, no.
When Alistair beat up Brock...
brendan schaub
Oh, we're talking about two different animals, though.
Jesus Christ, sir.
How dare you?
unidentified
You're talking about Uber-eam?
joe rogan
We're talking about the Uber-eam.
brendan schaub
Bro, don't we...
joe rogan
It was a moment in time, right?
brendan schaub
When you and I get together, we're just fucking...
My mouth salivates when we talk about Uber-eam.
joe rogan
It was a moment in time.
A special moment.
brendan schaub
He was the scariest man on Earth.
joe rogan
Yeah, it was a weird moment.
It was like, wait a minute, what?
brendan schaub
This is real?
joe rogan
How is that guy that big?
brendan schaub
I was fighting then, too.
God, I feel like this is a bad idea.
joe rogan
Well, not only that.
brendan schaub
I didn't call his doctor.
joe rogan
He had already won the K-1 Grand Prix.
He won the Strikeforce title.
He smashed Brett Rogers.
I mean, he was just beating the fuck out of people, man.
brendan schaub
Brock was like, what?
joe rogan
It was a terrible fight for Brock.
brendan schaub
The awful fight.
A man with takedown defense, world-class striking.
joe rogan
Wicked striking.
Like, it was a different kind of striking.
It's much more technical.
brendan schaub
Fucking juice city.
Like we're in fucking pumping iron.
joe rogan
Like you're in fucking...
What's the juice place?
Jamba Juice.
brendan schaub
Like it's a fucking Jamba Juice.
joe rogan
But he doesn't punch as hard as Francis.
That's Ubering.
brendan schaub
Back then he did.
joe rogan
Jesus Louisa.
No, I don't think so.
brendan schaub
I don't know, man.
joe rogan
He's more technical.
He punched very hard.
Much more technical.
But I think Francis has got some new things.
brendan schaub
He has some power.
joe rogan
Yeah, new levels.
The way Francis punches you is like, it's a different level.
brendan schaub
No, Francis is a complete nightmare.
However, Brock Lesnar would be an awful matchup for him.
joe rogan
True.
It's true.
But I feel like you got two giant moneymakers there.
brendan schaub
That's what I'm saying.
joe rogan
I don't know if you do that right away.
brendan schaub
We're trying to make money or not.
joe rogan
Yeah, but if Brock loses, that's a wrap.
Like, if he loses to Francis, he loses in a most terrifying way.
brendan schaub
It's not like he's going on a 10-year run here.
We're just trying to get our money.
joe rogan
Whoa, look at before and after.
unidentified
That's crazy.
brendan schaub
Jesus Christ.
joe rogan
2009 to 2016. Whoa, that's amazing.
Testosterone is real, people.
brendan schaub
That's more than testosterone.
That's that Jamba juice.
joe rogan
But not having it's real, too.
brendan schaub
For sure.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Tough mentally, too.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's not much you can do, either.
The other thing about it is, like, once your body doesn't produce anymore, and you're in your late 30s like that, and you've been juicing for a long time.
brendan schaub
There's, like, Clomid and stuff that tries to...
It's illegal.
HCT or HTC? Is that a...
That's a cell phone.
Either way.
joe rogan
HCG or something like that?
brendan schaub
Whatever it is.
It's supposed to boost your testosterone naturally, but never to the levels when you're injecting that Jamba Juice.
joe rogan
No, not only that, though, you can't take that stuff.
brendan schaub
Not in the UFC. Right.
joe rogan
It's illegal.
brendan schaub
Just saying when...
Yeah, that's true.
I guess when he retires, he can do whatever the fuck he wants.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, when he retires.
Or goes to Ryzen.
Can you imagine?
UFC lets him out of the contract, and then all of a sudden he disappears for like eight months, and just we hear...
Just locked in the house with horse meat.
Just fillet of horse all day.
brendan schaub
He's eating that Canelo meat.
joe rogan
And goes back to deadlifting and hanging out with powerlifters.
Steps out of the fucking house in Holland.
Six months later.
brendan schaub
Dick tied around his leg.
joe rogan
297. Yes.
brendan schaub
Dude, I want that journey for him.
I want that because I went on board of that train.
joe rogan
There's only one way it can happen.
brendan schaub
Dude, how about canelitacin hot for fucking...
joe rogan
Clembutrol.
brendan schaub
And they're saying it's in the meat in Mexico.
joe rogan
It is.
brendan schaub
It's a small trace amount.
And everyone's like, oh, the fight's off.
Trust me, it's boxing.
That fight is not off.
There's way too much money involved.
joe rogan
That is a real fact, though, is that one particular substance he tested positive for exists in meat.
brendan schaub
Plambuterol, and also, it's not like a straight steroid.
Guys use it to cut weight, stuff like that, and it's such a small trace amount, they're going to be fine.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
That's such a great fight, Triple G Canola, man.
joe rogan
It's a very good fight.
brendan schaub
It's going to be better than the first one.
joe rogan
Cinco de Mayo.
Why do you think it's going to be better?
brendan schaub
Because I think Triple G didn't fight like himself.
He has that mix-in style.
He was a little reserved, and then Canelo was moving too much.
I think now we're getting the real fight now.
I don't think the judges fucked this one up.
You never know, though.
It's shady.
joe rogan
I fucking loved the first fight.
I loved it.
brendan schaub
I thought it was amazing.
I loved it, too.
joe rogan
I thought Triple G won it going away, though.
I really thought he won.
brendan schaub
Me, too.
joe rogan
I think a lot of people did.
A lot of people thought that was a poor draw.
brendan schaub
That's why I think Triple G coming off that draw now, there's a lot more hype with it.
Everyone's going to tune in.
The ratings are going to be better.
But boxing judges, you know...
They're crooked.
MMA's nowhere near as bad.
Did you see the Wilder-Ortiz fight?
joe rogan
No.
brendan schaub
I thought for sure Wilder was losing on the cards.
I'm like, he's going to have to get a finish.
But on the actual scorecards, they had Wilder winning, which obviously they want Wilder to win.
joe rogan
Right.
brendan schaub
Which I thought was, I was like, I didn't.
And I'm a Wilder dick rider.
I'm like, he's not winning that fight.
joe rogan
I think MMA might be worse, and they're the same exact judges.
Same judges.
There's a lot of the same judges that judge MMA, or judge boxing, and also judge MMA, and they don't even know what MMA is.
brendan schaub
How about you and DC trying to walk that tightrope of not clowning, what's her name?
Adeline Bird?
joe rogan
Adeline Bird.
She's a very nice lady.
brendan schaub
But as you said, so is my mom.
I don't want her fucking judging.
joe rogan
That's exactly what I've meant and that's exactly what I said.
brendan schaub
It's so funny you and DC just trying to balance that.
She has no business being in there.
joe rogan
She's a very nice lady, but yeah, she's made some bad decisions.
And she also was a part of the Canelo Alvarez Triple G decision.
brendan schaub
That's the problem.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
She's balling.
joe rogan
Yeah, and she was on the wrong side of a couple decisions that night.
There were some bad ones, man.
brendan schaub
Super suspect, too.
joe rogan
Some that were like, what?
How did he win every round?
What?
Like, it didn't make any sense.
Like, some that literally didn't make any sense.
brendan schaub
You were talking about in the UFC? Yeah, this past weekend.
joe rogan
There was a lot of bad decisions.
brendan schaub
There were some bad ones, yeah.
joe rogan
But there was, like, a couple of split decisions that I was like, what in the actual fuck is this?
brendan schaub
And the weight screws over the fighter.
The repercussions is such a shitty deal.
joe rogan
Yep.
Yeah, they lose half their money.
brendan schaub
Hell yeah.
You just cost me half my money because you don't know what's going on.
joe rogan
And literally, there's no recourse.
And if it's a bad decision, there's three people, and one person just has literally no idea what they're doing, and they give it to the wrong person.
brendan schaub
It's awful, man.
joe rogan
It's fucking terrible, and it's unnecessary.
Here's the thing.
It's unnecessary.
There's way better methods.
And one of the most better methods is, one of the better methods is, hire someone who is an actual martial arts expert, like a Matt Hume or someone like that.
Someone to score.
I'm sure there's a lot of those guys that would do it.
A lot of trainers out there that would do it.
brendan schaub
I think I agree.
You have someone who specializes in mixed martial arts, who's been around the game.
They don't need to be cage-side, because cage-side you can't see everything, and you're also swayed by the crowd.
They need to be in an undisclosed location, and they're watching what we see and judging the fight from an MMA fighter's perspective.
joe rogan
I think that's a good point, and I also think they should be able to see all the replays, they should see all the fight stats.
brendan schaub
They get everything.
joe rogan
Get everything.
brendan schaub
Copy strikes and then decide.
But what you're doing now is so old school.
joe rogan
The only thing that I would disagree with, I don't think they should hear the commentary.
Because I think the commentary can sway them.
brendan schaub
That's what I'm saying.
No commentary.
No crowd noise.
You have three expert MMA analysts watching going, this is who's winning.
Because they know the ground game.
For Tony first and Khabib.
Let's say Khabib takes Tony down.
And they think, oh, he has a huge advantage.
And then Tony's just whooping his ass from his back.
Elbows.
Submission game.
Stand back up.
Getting taken down.
But on the ground, Khabib constantly under threat.
How are you going to judge that?
joe rogan
Yeah, you've got to know what you're looking at.
I also think three is too small.
I think it should be ten people.
Ten people.
brendan schaub
Who cares?
joe rogan
Have them call in.
brendan schaub
It's a real shit show.
Call in.
joe rogan
Do it all with the internet.
You don't even have to be in the building.
Why even have to be there?
unidentified
Ten, though?
joe rogan
Yeah, ten people.
brendan schaub
It's hard enough with three morons.
joe rogan
Yeah, but if there's two that are smart and one that's bad, you got a shitty split decision and everybody feels weird about it.
Like, what would have happened if there was three morons there?
brendan schaub
So can we say five?
joe rogan
Ten.
brendan schaub
Ten.
joe rogan
Ten, you're gonna get the right decision almost every time.
Because ten, a few people are going to disagree, but most people are going to see it that way.
brendan schaub
The majority is going to see it this way and agree.
joe rogan
And if it's five to five, you've got a fucking draw on your hands.
And that's rare.
brendan schaub
I'm not mad at that.
joe rogan
And I think sometimes a fight should be a fucking draw.
brendan schaub
I don't have a problem with a draw.
Some guys watch it and go, man, that's too close to call.
Don't fuck over someone getting half their pay.
If there's a draw, they both get their win.
joe rogan
Exactly.
brendan schaub
That's how we should do it.
joe rogan
Exactly.
One guy moves on and the other guy doesn't, just arbitrarily.
brendan schaub
So weird.
joe rogan
It doesn't make any sense.
brendan schaub
Or you get a draw and they have to, in their contract, they rematch on whatever card they're ready to go again.
You do it again.
joe rogan
Callan the fucking address here.
brendan schaub
I'm sure he's texting me.
unidentified
There it is.
brendan schaub
Oh, you fucked up.
Callan's 75 minutes away.
joe rogan
He said he found it.
He says he's close.
brendan schaub
Is he?
joe rogan
But I don't believe that.
brendan schaub
He might be.
joe rogan
He could be.
Brian Callan.
brendan schaub
Brian the Kid Callan.
joe rogan
So what else is going on?
UFC-wise, what's happening?
What other big fights are there?
Dude, when Yoel Romero comes in and talks to Joey Diaz and me, he's getting ready to fight Whitaker.
He's going to fight for the title, even though he didn't make weight in the Rockhold fight.
brendan schaub
That's short notice.
I don't hold that against him, though.
Especially with his body type.
God, he looked good against Rockhold, huh?
joe rogan
Rockhold said he was made out of metal.
Said the guy was just ridiculously strong.
brendan schaub
Tough fight for Rockhold.
joe rogan
For anybody.
brendan schaub
For anyone, unless you're Robert Whittaker.
joe rogan
Yeah, and Whittaker with healthy needs, man.
brendan schaub
Whittaker's a nice man.
Yeah, he's going to be tough to beat for a long time.
But if someone could do it, it could be Yoel.
Yoel is not young.
joe rogan
40 years old, son.
brendan schaub
Every bit of it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Who knows?
Those Cuban birth certificates.
brendan schaub
You have no idea.
That's what I was saying with Ortiz.
They said, oh, he's 38. I went, bullshit.
That's the most shot-out 38-year-old I've ever seen.
That man has 400 amateur fights in Cuba.
There's no way he's 38. Motherfucker's 48. You think so?
Not 38. There's no way.
You see him up close, I'm like, what the fuck?
joe rogan
Did you see him up close?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
I was at the press, the weigh-ins, all that stuff for Showtime.
joe rogan
Did you see the fight live, or did you see it on TV? No, I flew back.
brendan schaub
I was supposed to work it, but I flew back.
joe rogan
I watched Kovalev beat up his friend.
brendan schaub
Beat the piss out of his friend.
joe rogan
It was like his friend.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
It was like the guy was fighting him like he was his friend and Kovalev was fighting him like some guy fucked his girlfriend in the ass.
brendan schaub
Kovalev killed a guy.
joe rogan
Yeah, and it didn't seem to bother him.
brendan schaub
He's a bad motherfucker.
He's a super bad motherfucker.
But now with that Wilder-Ortiz fight, it kind of did what I think for Wilder, what Anthony Joshua against Klitschko, where now everyone's talking about him.
So now, before, we didn't think we had Anthony Joshua-Wilder, but I think it forces Joshua's hand to fight Wilder before it wasn't going to happen, which that's the fight, man.
joe rogan
Why wasn't it going to happen before?
brendan schaub
So Anthony Joshua has to get through Joseph Parker first, early next month, which is a beast.
Joseph Parker's a nightmare from New Zealand.
I think 20-0 world champion.
No punks.
So he has to get by that, and then he's going to take one or two more fights before he fought Wilder.
Now he can't do that.
joe rogan
Because Wilder just won by emphatic nonsense.
brendan schaub
Yeah, it's like, what are you talking about?
Obviously, I'm the most talked-about boxer right now.
You have to take this fight.
joe rogan
Why do they put fights like that off?
Like, why do they say we'll take a couple more fights?
brendan schaub
That's boxing.
Well, listen, as a business, if you're Anthony Joshua's manager, it's like, alright, do we fight Dante Wilder, who's 40-0, 39 knockouts?
It's a nightmare of a fight for anybody, which we're probably favored still to fight.
Or do we fight this guy, this guy, and get paid, and then fight Wilder?
joe rogan
Hmm, but things could go wrong.
Exactly.
Joseph Parker.
Joseph Parker's no joke.
brendan schaub
Not at all.
joe rogan
No.
brendan schaub
But yeah, things could go wrong, but I'm assuming that's their way of thinking, you know?
But it's scary.
I was jumping around.
Obviously...
Being around these guys, I get close with guys, and I know Wilder, and I want him to win so bad, just because it's good for the sport.
It's not a knock on Ortiz.
Ortiz is an amazing fighter, but Wilder, he checks all the boxes, man.
He can sell tickets.
He's American.
joe rogan
He talks a lot of shit.
brendan schaub
He has a great story.
He started boxing because his daughter was born with a spinal issue and couldn't walk, and he just has these great stories, and you root for that guy.
joe rogan
Dresses well.
brendan schaub
Dressed as well.
Die in peace.
Yeah.
Knockout artist.
But him and Joshua's the fight, man.
joe rogan
Yeah.
He has won his last couple fights pretty spectacularly, too.
brendan schaub
People are so funny.
They get so mad at me.
They go, oh my god.
Oh, you're such a homer.
You love Wilder.
I'm like, well, I like Joshua, too.
They're like, you used to root for Joshua.
I like both of them, man.
joe rogan
You can't respond to those people.
brendan schaub
I don't respond.
joe rogan
But you can't even right now, you're responding.
brendan schaub
Well, it's my job, you know, we do that thing, kind of, yeah.
You know, I like both of those guys, man.
I love both of them.
joe rogan
You can like both of them.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's when Ferguson, Tony Ferguson got mad that I put Khabib's hat on.
brendan schaub
Hey, Tony, come on, man.
joe rogan
He's like, bro, I thought we were all 10th planet.
I'm like, look.
brendan schaub
Hey, bro.
joe rogan
I'm wearing the hat.
The guy gives me the hat, I'm wearing it.
brendan schaub
I like Khabib, I like Tony.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
I like Ortega, I like Frankie Edgar.
joe rogan
I want to see you guys fight.
I think it would be awesome.
There's going to be animosity.
No doubt.
brendan schaub
If someone doesn't make weight or get hurt in that fight, I'm going to cry.
joe rogan
Yeah, every day when I check Tony's Instagram or check Khabib's, I'm like, please.
brendan schaub
Just be cool, bros.
joe rogan
Please no injuries.
Please no injuries.
Everybody keep it together.
brendan schaub
Don't do anything crazy.
joe rogan
Just get there.
We're not even a month away.
Not even a month away.
Yeah.
brendan schaub
That's a fight.
joe rogan
Yeah, what is the date?
It's March 6th.
It's a month and a day.
brendan schaub
Four weeks.
joe rogan
A month and a day.
Good googly moogly.
brendan schaub
That fight is by far my favorite.
The fight has to happen.
joe rogan
It has to happen.
brendan schaub
Ferguson, Khabib, and then Stipe, DC. Those are my two fights where I'm literally like a schoolboy.
joe rogan
Look at that fucking card.
Chiesa versus Pettis?
I forgot about that.
Al Iaquinta versus Paul Felder?
Are you fucking shitting me?
Dude!
brendan schaub
Ioana.
joe rogan
Dude!
unidentified
Rose.
brendan schaub
You got Joe Loos on.
joe rogan
Ioana and Rose.
Oh my goodness.
brendan schaub
Goddamn, Evan Dunham's still doing the damn thing?
And they gave him that monster?
joe rogan
Yeah, Tysimov.
brendan schaub
Ain't no one trying to fight Tysimov.
joe rogan
They couldn't get Marabek Tysimov a good fight for a long time.
He's very, very underrated.
brendan schaub
People are terrified of that gentleman.
joe rogan
Yeah, and he's having a real hard time getting matchups, but Evan Dunham doesn't give a fuck.
brendan schaub
Bet you anything your boy Conor's there because his boy Artem Lobov's fighting and Ferguson Khabib makes sense.
joe rogan
Yeah, Lobov's fighting Caceres.
That should be fun.
brendan schaub
I'm a Lobov fan, man.
joe rogan
It's a tough dude.
brendan schaub
Salty record at 14-14, but that's life.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's interesting because there's two schools of thought with him and Connor.
He's strong and he's powerful and he's a good sparring partner for Connor, but I've also heard people say, no, Connor likes him because Connor can fuck him up.
He's just so goddamn tough?
Yeah, so goddamn tough.
Having a really tough sparring partner is probably a great idea.
brendan schaub
You get both.
Yeah, he's not exactly a technician, but Artem's so damn tough.
joe rogan
Hits hard, too.
brendan schaub
He hits hard.
You've got to watch your P's and Q's at all times.
I'm sure he's a great training partner.
And he's loyal, too.
He's not going to hurt you.
joe rogan
That's super important.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Especially now in Connor's life, that's got to be real important.
I mean, how many people are just constantly trying to get the best of him in sparring?
brendan schaub
Oh, hashtag no new friends.
There's no new guy sparring with him.
joe rogan
I was looking at this...
This dude, Katoru on K1 here.
I'm gonna send it to you, Jamie.
This dude's...
They were doing the exact kind of sparring that I fucking hate to see anyone do.
Where they were literally just going after each other.
brendan schaub
Trying to knock each other out?
joe rogan
And then...
Katoru connected with a giant bomb.
brendan schaub
And knocked him out?
joe rogan
Yes, he did.
It was awful.
brendan schaub
That's that old school fighting, man.
joe rogan
I'm gonna send this to you, Jamie.
Hang on a second.
brendan schaub
Super old school fighting.
joe rogan
Well, it's just unfortunate when people choose to train like this because this is a real knockout that this guy suffered and it wasn't an accident.
Like, this guy was teeing off on him trying to knock him out.
I just sent it to you in a text message.
It's not like the guy was knocked out because, you know, he just got caught with a freak punch or a freak elbow sparring.
Watch this shit.
Look at those guys in the back.
Look at this.
brendan schaub
Look at this.
Oh, they're playing for keeps.
joe rogan
And then walks away.
Like he doesn't give a fuck.
brendan schaub
That's so weird, man.
joe rogan
KO'd that dude.
brendan schaub
You don't get anything out of it.
joe rogan
Look at this.
brendan schaub
That guy doesn't look very good who he's fighting.
joe rogan
No.
No, he doesn't.
And I mean, he is swinging from the hips.
brendan schaub
Oh, that dude's like KO'd.
Yeah, he's flatline.
joe rogan
Yeah.
How do you say his last name?
brendan schaub
Are you talking to me?
I'm the worst to ask that.
joe rogan
How do you think you'd say it?
K-1 Takeru.
Takeru.
T-A-K-E-R-U. Takeru.
brendan schaub
And then he posted that?
joe rogan
Yep.
It's awful, right?
brendan schaub
It's just a tool move.
joe rogan
It's awful.
Well, it's just, maybe it wasn't him sparring.
I don't know who was getting KO'd like that.
But that should be an example of just what not to do.
brendan schaub
Are you Vandley Silva from Shootbox back in fucking 97?
What are you doing?
joe rogan
Does it show the translation?
Eh, who cares.
Either way.
brendan schaub
Either way, don't post that.
joe rogan
That's how it used to be.
That's how guys spar.
brendan schaub
God, back in the...
For sure, educate yourself.
joe rogan
I know.
That's why when you see something like that today...
brendan schaub
It's hard to see now.
joe rogan
It's not smart, it's not good for you, and it's not a good way to train.
You're not learning from that.
brendan schaub
You're also going to break all your toys so people go, oh, you fight like that?
No, we're good, man.
unidentified
Right.
brendan schaub
We're good.
joe rogan
Or you have to be a guy who can hang in there in that gym and do that.
But all of you are going to take unnecessary damage.
Can you do it?
Yeah, you can do it.
brendan schaub
That's how we used to do it.
Everyone used to do that.
joe rogan
You can do it, but is that smart to do it?
Definitely not.
That's not the right way to do it.
brendan schaub
Especially at his level.
We know you're tough, man.
You don't need to knock guys out.
He's finding K1. What are you doing?
joe rogan
Did you watch Glory this past weekend?
brendan schaub
I'm not huge into Glory, Joe.
I watch all combat sports.
unidentified
Who are you?
brendan schaub
I know.
I know.
joe rogan
You don't like kickboxing?
brendan schaub
It's alright to me.
I enjoy it.
I appreciate the art, stuff like that, but I was really into K1 when it was in its prime, but it's hard for me to get into Glory.
And there's some amazing guys in there.
I only have so much time on my hands where Glory's not priority.
That's true.
joe rogan
Yeah, I don't know.
To me, I like it better than boxing.
How dare you?
I'm sorry.
brendan schaub
It's like I don't even know you.
joe rogan
Being honest.
brendan schaub
I appreciate it.
joe rogan
A real good glory fight to me is more interesting than a real good boxing match.
brendan schaub
You're fucking crazy.
joe rogan
I like kicks.
brendan schaub
You're crazy.
joe rogan
I like knees.
I like Muay Thai even more.
brendan schaub
More than boxing.
joe rogan
Yep.
brendan schaub
A good boxing match.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
You'd rather watch that than Canelo Triple G. You got your goddamn mind.
joe rogan
Well, that's an exceptional once-in-a-lifetime match.
brendan schaub
That Wildo Ortiz fight, man, one of the best I've ever seen.
joe rogan
But say if it was like...
Buakau versus Sanchai.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
I would be just as excited about that.
brendan schaub
Yeah, that's fair.
joe rogan
You know what I mean?
Like those two levels.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
That level.
brendan schaub
Yeah, not so extreme.
joe rogan
That's a crazy fight.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
You'd want to see what happens.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I don't know.
Again, I can appreciate when there's a good fight.
I'm down, but I'm not going to shut down my night and order pizza and watch Glory.
joe rogan
Damn, I will.
I will, for sure.
brendan schaub
But I don't miss, which is weird, I don't miss any MMA, UFC, Bellator.
I don't miss any boxing.
I shut everything down.
joe rogan
Did you get excited about the Kovalev fight?
brendan schaub
No, I get excited about it.
Super excited about it.
This past weekend, I was just so happy because I knew I had freaking Showtime boxing on with Wilder versus Ortiz, which is a great fight, and then you also had UFC 222. And that ended before the co-mate event, so I get to see all of it.
That makes my weekend, man.
joe rogan
Did you see that dude...
Alexander Hernandez, starch, Benil Dariush.
brendan schaub
God, did he ever.
Dariush has hit a rough patch.
How about your boy Hector?
joe rogan
Yeah, Hector Lombard, that wasn't good.
brendan schaub
What are you at on that?
joe rogan
Cheap shot.
brendan schaub
Cheap shot, you think?
You don't think it was an after-action combo?
joe rogan
The first punch you can get away with.
brendan schaub
I agree.
joe rogan
The second punch, he knows the bell's already rung.
brendan schaub
Yep, the first one, I said, alright, you're in motion, but that second one that knocked him out, that's where I get a drill line.
I don't think he's a bad guy, but it's also a natural counter to kick like that, to throw that straight right or the left hook.
So maybe there's that, but you can't have the fight carry on.
joe rogan
Well, he definitely naturally fired back, but he knew in his head that the bell had rung, and he fired back anyway.
I mean, that's what happened.
Why did he do it?
I don't know.
But here's the thing.
We can't speculate.
We don't know.
No one knows it was on purpose.
All you know is the bell rang.
The rules are real clear.
The bell rings, the dude throws a punch, and then another punch after the bell.
100% foul.
There's no gray area.
They're going to appeal that, to me, is crazy.
And Hector was saying something like, the guy was talking, he was fine.
brendan schaub
He was saying, what happened?
Where am I? That's what CB Dollar was saying.
joe rogan
Yeah.
He said it over...
I kept saying that he was saying...
I was letting everybody know because he was saying it over and over again.
And we all know what that is.
We've all seen that.
When a guy gets knocked out and just keeps saying, what happened?
brendan schaub
What happened?
unidentified
It's a nightmare.
joe rogan
It happens so often.
brendan schaub
Yes.
joe rogan
That is what always happens when people get KO'd.
brendan schaub
They go, oh shit, what happened?
You don't remember anything.
joe rogan
And you tell them, and then five minutes later, what happened?
And then you tell them, why am I here?
What happened?
They forget over and over again all night.
You gotta stay up with them.
brendan schaub
Hector's in a tough spot because he's lost five in a row now.
So I'm not sure what they're gonna do with him.
joe rogan
Well, I mean, I would imagine if CB wants to do a rematch, they would do a rematch.
Because there would be some interest in that fight.
Because either one of those guys is not generating a ton of interest.
Correct.
Hector's lost a lot of fights.
CB's lost two?
He got knocked down by Marquardt.
Remember that?
brendan schaub
Yeah, that was bad.
joe rogan
That was bad.
And that was, it seemed to me, like one of those fights where he thought Marquardt was done.
brendan schaub
The last thing to go.
You know, Nate retired.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Officially retired, yeah.
joe rogan
I'm glad.
I'm glad I'm tired.
But there's a thing that happens to fighters where, you know, they just can't take a shot anymore.
They've just been doing it too long.
It's just a fact.
And so guys go after them.
But the last thing to go with a guy like Nate is power.
brendan schaub
Yeah, it's terrible.
joe rogan
He knocks out CB. After CB, you know, CB came back.
And who did he beat?
brendan schaub
I thought CB won two in a row, and then they got Hector, or did he lose one in decision?
But I'm pretty sure after Nate, he won one.
joe rogan
Well, you know, he got fucked up in an elevator accident.
brendan schaub
He's in a lawsuit with the UFC over it.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's like permanently fucked up.
unidentified
Is he?
joe rogan
Is that bad?
brendan schaub
What happened?
joe rogan
He was on an elevator, and it just dropped.
The elevator just dropped and slammed onto the bottom.
brendan schaub
I'm sorry, how is that the UFC's problem?
joe rogan
I don't think he's in a lawsuit with the UFC. Is he not?
brendan schaub
Am I crazy?
joe rogan
He's in a lawsuit, I think, with the hotel.
I thought it was with the UFC. Maybe I'm wrong.
brendan schaub
It doesn't make sense if the elevator, then I have misinformation.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
It wouldn't make sense coming after the UFC if it was a hotel elevator.
joe rogan
Oh, you didn't know that it was the elevator accident?
brendan schaub
I knew it was the elevator.
joe rogan
So yeah, it doesn't make sense if they'd come after the UFC. No.
That's what I heard.
But apparently there was quite a few people in that elevator, and when he dropped, a lot of them got fucked up.
Damn.
I think there was more than three or four people in the elevator, but he got fucked up bad.
brendan schaub
Was it a Steve Wynn hotel or what?
joe rogan
I don't know.
I don't know who owned it.
I don't know where it was.
I do not remember.
brendan schaub
That's such a shame.
Jamie, you looking it up?
joe rogan
Yeah, but he did go and fight again.
So they would probably be arguing like, hey, you're still professionally competing.
brendan schaub
That's what I was going to say because he's in that lawsuit and then you fight this weekend.
The courtroom's going to be like, hold up.
You're saying your back's an issue and they fought Hector Lombard?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
What are you talking about?
joe rogan
Yeah.
That's true.
The best argument would be, did not fight until the lawsuit settled.
And then shoot some stem cells in there down in Panama.
brendan schaub
Yeah, it's not like we're dying to see you versus Hector.
joe rogan
Van Halen on the headphones.
Panama!
jamie vernon
There's a Wyndham Hotel in Cleveland.
brendan schaub
Ah, Wyndham's.
Don't stay at Wyndham's.
joe rogan
Yeah, or do.
So they'll sue the shit out of those people.
We'll see what happens.
But yeah, the elevator apparently was getting funky on people before.
And people were still riding it.
brendan schaub
Don't more people die in elevators?
Because when they're talking to their friend, they assume the elevator's there, and they're walking, and the elevator's not there, and they go down?
More people die like that than you would imagine, yeah.
Why the door?
joe rogan
Why is the door open?
brendan schaub
Because something's wrong, it goes ding, and they're like, yeah, I got it!
joe rogan
And they fall to their death.
brendan schaub
It's a bad one.
So always look at the elevators there.
joe rogan
That's a fucked up way to end it.
brendan schaub
Shitty deal.
You don't want to go out like that?
joe rogan
No.
I'd heard a story about a dude who got trapped in an elevator and the elevator went up and he was trapped in the door and the elevator went up and just sheared him in half.
brendan schaub
I saw that in Final Destination 2. Maybe that's what it was.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I made it up.
No, I'm pretty sure it was real.
brendan schaub
That'd be a terrible way to go.
unidentified
Awful.
brendan schaub
Well, it's like that actor who was in Star Trek and he was in Alpha Dog.
He lived right up here, man, in Hollywood.
Hollywood Hills.
He lives on an incline.
And he was getting out of his Jeep to close the garage door.
And he didn't put the Jeep in park.
And it rolled over and killed him.
Trapped him against the garage door.
joe rogan
Fuck.
brendan schaub
Young actor, too.
Phenomenal actor.
Fuck.
joe rogan
Wow.
Back straddling the elevator, one leg in the elevator, one leg in the second floor.
He was helping the occupants get off the elevator when all of a sudden shot upwards, beheading him.
That's it.
His body fell into the second floor lobby.
His head fell onto the floor of the elevator.
His head and the two remaining passengers in the elevator shot up to the ninth floor.
One of the passengers described the scene.
I can't get it out of my mind.
The head was there, but the body wasn't.
He still had the Walkman earphones on his head.
Holy shit.
There had been many problems with the elevator, and the service repairman was at the building that day to work on it.
The elevator had been inspected November 1, 1994, and passed the inspection.
brendan schaub
That's some dark shit.
joe rogan
That's a way to go, baby.
Not good.
brendan schaub
Painless, though.
joe rogan
Yes, but you will be awake for a couple seconds.
brendan schaub
Yeah, don't they say once you, like a chicken, right?
joe rogan
That doesn't make sense to me, though, because how come you're not awake when you get choked out?
Right?
brendan schaub
Well, because when you get decapitated, right, everything's still firing, some of the energy's still up there firing, so you can see.
joe rogan
Maybe.
I heard about that chicken that didn't have any head.
Lived for 18 months without a noggin.
After a farm in a failed attempt at slaughter axed off the head, but missed the jugular vein.
brendan schaub
We really don't know, right?
joe rogan
Chickens are fucking dinosaurs, man.
I've said that many, too many times, but that kind of shit is what you need to see.
Just realize it's not a person.
brendan schaub
Although a pterodactyl is not a dinosaur.
It's so strange to me.
joe rogan
I know.
I think pterodactyls might have had feathers.
They don't know.
They're thinking now that a lot of dinosaurs had feathers.
But when you think about what a pterodactyl is, we always assume it had like bat wings.
But now that they think that dinosaurs have feathers, I wonder if they...
brendan schaub
A giant bird?
joe rogan
Yeah, I wonder if they've decided to look into that and look at it as a possibility.
brendan schaub
You ever see that giant picture that it's the T-Rex covered in feathers?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Get that shit out of my face.
They didn't look like that, bitch.
joe rogan
They might have.
unidentified
No!
brendan schaub
They think raptors did.
Raptors covered in feathers like that?
joe rogan
They think raptors had feathers.
They look pretty dope, too, man.
brendan schaub
Have you seen the pictures, Jamie?
That bullshit T-Rex covered in feathers?
joe rogan
Yeah.
That one's furry.
unidentified
It looks cute.
brendan schaub
That one looks cool.
joe rogan
Yeah.
See that one?
We showed it before.
It's at Bozeman Science Museum or some shit in Bozeman, Montana.
Pretty cool place.
And they have a replica of what they think a raptor could have looked like if it was covered in feathers.
Because they think it's very possible that that's what those things looked like.
Remember, Jamie, it was on the floor.
There was an actual model.
We pulled up the image before.
If you go to images.
brendan schaub
It's some science shit for the feathers.
joe rogan
That's what they think because they found some that have feathers.
They know that they've got some fossils that have very clear indentations where feathers must have been.
brendan schaub
Well then everything I grew up on with dinosaurs is wrong.
joe rogan
Well, they think that's true anyway.
They used to think the T-Rex was a predator, and now they think it's a scavenger.
brendan schaub
I thought you were going to say vegetarian.
joe rogan
No, they think he just waddled around.
That's why the teeth are so big, to crush dead animals that are just laying around.
That's it right there.
That's what they think that thing looks like.
Which is kind of even more nightmarish.
brendan schaub
Yeah, it's more freaky.
joe rogan
Big old feathered fucking lizard that runs and guts you with its claws.
brendan schaub
My brain's trying to analyze it.
It doesn't really work.
joe rogan
Well...
brendan schaub
Because how we know dinosaurs, you know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
Yeah, but think of an eagle, man.
I mean, eagle is a lot like a fucking dinosaur.
It just has a hatchet for a head.
brendan schaub
That beak.
joe rogan
Instead of teeth.
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
But you look at an ostrich, you look at their legs and shit, you can see a dinosaur in it.
joe rogan
100%.
unidentified
Their feet.
joe rogan
Yeah, but nobody has teeth like that.
There's not a single bird that has, like, leopard seal-type teeth, you know?
brendan schaub
God, leopard seal.
Underappreciated animal.
That thing's mean as fuck.
joe rogan
One of the coolest animals of all time.
brendan schaub
We're in La Jolla and we're on these scooters and went down and there's all these leopard seals and there's some people taking pictures.
Some Asian dude walked up, got nose to nose with this thing.
I told my brother, go get your camera out because that thing will rip his face off and this is going to be awesome.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
brendan schaub
They're fucking killers, man.
They're so big, too.
You know what I'm saying?
They're leopard seals for a reason, man.
joe rogan
You know, I didn't even know they were a real thing until I watched that March of the Penguins movie.
I went, what?
brendan schaub
You didn't know they were real?
joe rogan
I didn't know what a fucking leopard seal was.
I'd never heard of it.
brendan schaub
Yeah, they're gangster.
I think I'm scared because since a kid I was in Mexico and there's one going up in the water and I thought, oh cute, look, that's like the ones I see on cartoons and my dad's friend who's in the Navy was like, do not go in the water.
Those things are mean as fuck.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
I was like, really?
He's like, yes!
They're out there fucking killing shit right now.
joe rogan
Yeah, they've eaten people before.
There's one of them.
brendan schaub
Look at that poor penguin.
joe rogan
Some scientist, actually, a female scientist in a rare attack got killed, I want to say about 10 years ago.
brendan schaub
Those things are gangster, man.
joe rogan
They're pretty stunned.
Because they have giant mouths and huge teeth.
But look, like with his mouth closed there, looks so fucking cute.
Like, hey, buddy.
brendan schaub
That's what that Asian dude was doing.
Nose to nose with his fucking thing.
joe rogan
Hi, buddy.
Now, get me a picture of his teeth, like right above with his mouth open.
Go large on that.
That's not even a good one.
brendan schaub
That thing looks like a tremor.
joe rogan
Yeah, right there.
Oh, Jesus Christ!
brendan schaub
They look like tremors.
joe rogan
Look at that, man.
I mean, that doesn't look like a real thing.
That looks like a fake animal.
brendan schaub
It looks like that movie Tremor, that shitty CGI Tremor.
That's what it looks like.
joe rogan
Yeah, there was earthquakes because there was worms living out of the ground.
brendan schaub
That movie's awesome.
Shout out to Kevin Bacon.
joe rogan
I was thinking this about the Oscars.
Go to that one on the lower left.
Look at these fucking teeth.
unidentified
Jesus Christ.
brendan schaub
See, he looks friendly to me.
I would kick it with him.
joe rogan
Look at those teeth, bro!
brendan schaub
I'd share a fish talk with that guy.
joe rogan
I'd be really happy to eat your asshole.
unidentified
Hello!
brendan schaub
100%.
joe rogan
I want to take a bite out of your dick.
brendan schaub
100%, man.
They're fucking killers.
What were you going to say about the Oscars, though?
joe rogan
Oh, I was thinking...
brendan schaub
Speaking of killers?
joe rogan
No.
I was thinking, like, when are we...
No one can possibly see all the movies.
Because we keep adding to the library.
Every week, new movies come out.
They don't take movies away.
brendan schaub
No, you have to hit a certain period where they're going to preview that movie so you're up for the awards.
joe rogan
That's not what I mean.
I don't care about the Oscars.
I don't care about the awards.
I'm saying the number of movies...
That we produce as the human race is fucking crazy, and it's never-ending.
brendan schaub
Yes.
joe rogan
Like, every year they put out more, and movies don't go away.
So the database is just stacking and stacking and stacking.
brendan schaub
It's tough to follow.
joe rogan
And it's only been happening for a hundred years.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, and that was silent in the beginning, right?
So there's been a hundred years of these movies just stacking up.
And all the premises, like, if you think about premises, like, oh, the robots get smart and they want to kill the people.
Okay.
Oh, the monkeys get smart and they want to kill the people.
Okay.
Like, there's all these premises that just go, oh, there's worms that live on the ground that cause earthquakes.
brendan schaub
Great movie.
I'm in immediately.
joe rogan
It must be so hard to come up with an original premise for a movie.
There's so many fucking movies.
You think it's hard to come up with a new joke?
Or a new premise for a joke?
brendan schaub
Why do you think you get a recreation of Jumanji and Rocky and Predator?
They're running out of ideas.
How many buddy-buddy movies can we see?
Can we put The Rock and Kevin Hart in so many goddamn movies?
It's just this regurgitation of all the same shit we've already seen.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah.
brendan schaub
There's so many movies.
unidentified
There's so many movies.
brendan schaub
Yet there's not that many paid actors, is there?
Like, it's a struggle city.
Less than 1% make a living acting, but there's a jagillion movies.
joe rogan
Is it less than 1%?
brendan schaub
Less than 1% make a living.
joe rogan
Really?
brendan schaub
Making movies.
joe rogan
Of all actors?
brendan schaub
Yes.
joe rogan
Wow.
That's crazy.
brendan schaub
Like a quality living of all the actors, less than 1%.
joe rogan
That's pretty crazy.
brendan schaub
Crazy.
Think how many comics make a legit living?
Think how many comics are?
joe rogan
The difference being that for a comic, it's more up to them.
brendan schaub
Correct.
joe rogan
It's more up to them to go.
And you're a good piece of proof of that.
Obviously, you have the boost of being famous from the UFC and then being famous from your podcast.
Those two things helped you as a boost.
But also the hustling.
And that's the thing that, like, an actor can hustle, but you have to be hired.
You gotta be hired to do something.
brendan schaub
And there's a million moving pieces.
joe rogan
A million moving pieces.
brendan schaub
You gotta track well, you gotta test well, people have to like, you gotta be right for the royal.
A million.
joe rogan
You could just go up on a showcase night and do like 15 minutes and kill, and you're in the money, you know?
brendan schaub
Acting's a motherfucker.
joe rogan
Hard gig to get good at, too.
brendan schaub
You know?
Acting?
joe rogan
Yeah, I think.
brendan schaub
Oh, my God.
joe rogan
To get good at, like, Daniel Day-Lewis style, I was watching There Will Be Blood the other day, and I was just thinking, like, this guy's, like...
brendan schaub
The butcher?
joe rogan
He's putting out so many...
Yeah, ooh, New York.
What is that?
Gangs in New York?
Gangs in New York.
But I forgot how good There Will Be Blood was.
I watched it the other day in a hotel...
And I was near where it happened because I was doing gigs in Fresno and Bakersfield.
And I didn't know that, but Tehachapi Mountains, that's where there will be bloods all about.
That's where they were drilling for oil.
That's right over there.
brendan schaub
Amazing movie.
joe rogan
Dude.
brendan schaub
I think it's funny.
Sometimes fighters, whoever athletes go, I'm going to go to Hollywood, get into acting.
Like, man, you need to sit in on a classroom.
You need to watch someone do like a dramatic role and see if it's for you.
I mean, you're talking about it's a legit craft, man.
joe rogan
Some people are just good at...
There's a thing that they're doing where you're compelled by their words.
You're compelled by what they're doing.
It's not easy to achieve that spot.
Not a lot of guys do it.
brendan schaub
No, it's a true art.
That's why it's so tough to get casted in those roles in TV and movies.
There's a reason why it's so goddamn tough.
joe rogan
I've been watching that Viking show.
You watch that Viking show?
brendan schaub
That's on history, right?
joe rogan
All in, baby.
Yeah, you get it on Apple.
I got it on iTunes.
It's fucking good, man.
It's a good show, and it keeps getting better.
And they're really good actors.
I'm on season two right now.
brendan schaub
I need some shows, man.
I ran out.
You've seen Punisher on Netflix?
joe rogan
I have not.
brendan schaub
Changed your life.
joe rogan
That good?
brendan schaub
You would love it.
joe rogan
It's a lot of shoot-em-ups.
brendan schaub
Hell yeah.
joe rogan
Bang, bang, bang.
brendan schaub
But legit, I just don't like action.
That doesn't do anything for me.
I like a good story.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Punisher's dope.
Went through El Chapo, went through Narcos.
jamie vernon
You've never seen The Wire?
Have you ever seen The Wire?
brendan schaub
Seen The Wire.
I got like season five.
jamie vernon
That's all there is.
They just did release it in HD, so if you haven't seen it, you could watch it.
brendan schaub
Some people say greatest.
jamie vernon
It's probably the best series ever.
joe rogan
Ever?
jamie vernon
Yeah.
brendan schaub
That's a strong statement.
joe rogan
Easy for you to say because I haven't seen it, you fuck.
brendan schaub
It is true.
Some people rank it number one.
That and Sopranos, right?
joe rogan
I've never seen Sopranos.
Well, that's a problem.
brendan schaub
You've never seen Wired, son.
joe rogan
I saw one episode of the Wired.
brendan schaub
Well, I've seen half an episode of Sopranos.
joe rogan
Sopranos was the show that got me into binge-watching.
But not binge, because I watched it every Sunday, whenever it was on or whatever day it was.
Yeah, you were excited for it.
brendan schaub
It's HBO night with your girl.
joe rogan
It was a big deal to sit and watch The Sopranos.
I was like, boy, here we go, the fucking Sopranos.
brendan schaub
That's how I was with Game of Thrones.
joe rogan
Is Brian here?
Yeah, he has a Tesla.
Some poor electric car that he half-charges.
How often do you think Brian fully charges that car?
brendan schaub
He was just in the shock because he ran into the wall or some shit.
He treats his car as like shit.
And then he goes, dude, do you think I should get a Porsche like you and Rogan?
I'm like, no.
Absolutely not.
Absolutely not.
That's not the car for you.
joe rogan
He's hitting full-on midlife crisis.
Let's encourage it.
brendan schaub
No, I want him to get a yellow Viper and braces.
I want to be that guy in a shit tan and a wig.
joe rogan
Ooh, a Viper.
Nah, he doesn't know how to drive enough for a Viper.
But he should drive something that has some balls.
brendan schaub
Yeah, Tesla's bummed me out.
I like the message, it's just not the car for me.
joe rogan
It doesn't make any noise.
I have a problem with the fact that it doesn't make any noise.
It doesn't do anything to me.
unidentified
I don't know why.
joe rogan
I'm just too used to noise.
brendan schaub
Me too.
We sound like two cavemen right now, but it doesn't have that V8 or that V10 noise, the V6, the Inline 6, that exhaust.
joe rogan
There's nothing.
And you know what's pissing me off?
That lately car manufacturers have been adding noise to their cars.
brendan schaub
Like the Maserati?
joe rogan
They put it in the speakers.
brendan schaub
What?
joe rogan
Yes.
brendan schaub
In what cars?
joe rogan
BMW. M4 does it.
brendan schaub
They put in the speakers?
joe rogan
Yep.
Sound.
They pump sound through the speakers.
brendan schaub
That's a bitch move.
joe rogan
So as the engine goes up, some of it's coming in through the speakers.
brendan schaub
It's like patting a bra as a girl.
joe rogan
That's fucked up.
Apparently some guys have figured out a way how to cut that out.
Why would you do that?
Turbocharged cars.
Can I say that five times fast?
Turbocharged cars.
When you have forced induction, forced air induction, it makes the car much quieter.
Doesn't sound nearly as throaty and rumbly.
Like my GT3, you know how raw that thing sounds?
Love that.
Because it's naturally aspirated.
unidentified
Correct.
joe rogan
And you also get instantaneous feedback from the throttle response.
Preach, I got GTS. That's what you want.
That's what you want.
When you get into turbochargers, it's all about turbo lag, which is why they have twin turbos.
They have one turbo on the low end, one turbo on the high end, but even at the very best implementations of turbochargers, there's still a perceptible lag.
brendan schaub
Slight lag.
unidentified
Slight.
brendan schaub
They're getting better and better, though.
That new Porsche is ridiculous.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They're definitely better than they used to be.
brendan schaub
Dude, how the fuck have you not been on comedians in cars getting coffee?
joe rogan
Oh, I don't know.
brendan schaub
Not your thing.
joe rogan
Nah.
I get Jay Leno's show.
I've done enough car things.
brendan schaub
That's true.
Let's take that new Porsche and get on there or something.
I can't believe you're a new Porsche.
Literally, I was like, I hit you up out the podcast.
I'm just here to see the car, and you didn't bring it.
joe rogan
It has an oil leak.
brendan schaub
I know.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, you buy it.
It's not new.
It's 1991. It's new.
1991 964. God.
Sometimes I wanted to fuck around with one of those older cars.
I like those.
brendan schaub
Love it.
joe rogan
They're small.
They're real small.
That's one of the weird things about it when you're around it.
Those things are tiny.
brendan schaub
A driver's car.
joe rogan
Yeah.
You feel everything.
brendan schaub
I love it because you're not going to see it.
No one has it out there.
It's custom to you.
It's a badass ride.
joe rogan
There's more of them now than there have been before.
People are getting into those older cars.
brendan schaub
Thanks to your boy Magnus Walker.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Chris Harris said something funny to me.
He said, why is it that four years ago I didn't give a shit about 964s?
Now I think they're the best looking cars ever.
brendan schaub
The Porsche goes through these phases where this one's cool, and this with a 68, 78, 73. It's just these weird phases.
joe rogan
Well, those long hood cars are kind of always the best looking ones.
The 1967 to early 70s, like 72, 73. You know, they have that long hood.
Those are the ones that Magnus is really into.
He's done a few of those where he redid them.
brendan schaub
He made them cool, too.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, for sure.
Well, his style, that's another level more raw than what I'm dealing with.
brendan schaub
Magnus?
joe rogan
Yeah, because his style, well, he has a 964, too, but a lot of what his older cars were were those 1969, 1971s, and he would redo those.
And those cars don't weigh dog shit.
They weigh like 2,000 pounds.
brendan schaub
Super light.
The Porsche purists think they're not really into the Singers or the Magnus Walker.
You know what I'm saying?
Your car's in the middle of that, I think.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's not modified.
brendan schaub
It's not like a Singer, which is completely different.
joe rogan
Singer's got a carbon fiber body.
brendan schaub
I actually think Singers, Porsche took a lawsuit out of them because they're selling the Porsches, but they're taking the Porsche logo off and put a Singer one on them.
joe rogan
Yeah, so Porsche's suing them?
brendan schaub
They have an issue with it, yeah.
joe rogan
That's interesting.
I thought they liked it because it was just like bringing back interest in vintage Porsches.
brendan schaub
I think they liked it before he started making it the Singer.
You know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
Yeah, because what he's doing is taking a 964, which is that same year that I'm talking about, and then he puts all this other stuff on it and beefs up the suspension and beefs up the engine.
brendan schaub
They're like impossible to get to.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
They're so sick.
joe rogan
Well, now he has a new one that starts at 1.5 million dollars.
brendan schaub
Is that it?
Jesus Christ.
What the fuck are we doing?
joe rogan
Have you seen it?
brendan schaub
No.
joe rogan
There's a limited number of them they're going to make.
It has a 500 horsepower naturally aspirated engine.
It's got giant fender flares.
See if you can find it.
brendan schaub
Say no more, fam.
I'm in.
joe rogan
You're in.
Wait till you take a look at this thing.
brendan schaub
Sometimes when you send me pictures of cars getting made, sometimes I'll see it.
It makes me mad.
They're so sick.
It makes you mad.
There's not enough cars in the world for me.
joe rogan
Yeah, what is it about cars?
brendan schaub
I don't know.
Cars and girls, you see it and you're like, God damn!
joe rogan
God damn!
Right?
It just speaks to DNA. And it's not all men.
No.
Callan.
brendan schaub
Callan would come in here, you could show him that.
unidentified
He's here.
joe rogan
Where is he?
Is he in the dressing room?
I mean, yeah, he's walking around the gym.
See him?
brendan schaub
I guarantee you he hits that punching thing you have.
joe rogan
He's gonna break it.
He's got karate power.
brendan schaub
Or go, you know what, I would, but my wrist.
joe rogan
Yeah, maybe there's that.
But this, I mean, some men don't get into it, but it's so universal with men.
It's just, it's so normal that men, like, really get into cars.
brendan schaub
Why is that?
I don't know.
I don't know what is a battle.
joe rogan
Especially V8s, right?
brendan schaub
But, like, I'm not the type of guy where, like, I'll see a car, and my brother's super car guy, and I go, that thing, your car's dressed down on a track.
I'm like, I don't give a shit about the track, man.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
There's guys who are like those track guys, and I'm just like a road guy, fun driving car, fast enough, but looks great.
I'm about looks and performance.
joe rogan
Track is fun.
brendan schaub
But then a lot of people are track guys.
joe rogan
We should go to the track.
brendan schaub
The Porsche Performance Center.
joe rogan
Yeah, we go there, we have to take their cars, though.
brendan schaub
Fuck up their tires.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's true.
brendan schaub
Not yours.
joe rogan
That's true.
brendan schaub
You can get GT3s, GT2s.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Alright, let's do it.
brendan schaub
Let's do that.
joe rogan
Look at that.
That's the SINGER. Come on, son.
That doesn't make your dick hard.
SINGER Porsche 964 DLS. And this thing is insane.
brendan schaub
Find a better looking car than that, though.
You know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
Well, I'm going to be honest.
Those Fuchs wheels, I always felt like they're not good enough for that body style.
brendan schaub
I like how deep the...
joe rogan
Look how the wheel wells on that.
I always felt like they're classic.
Those Fuchs are quite...
They have center locking hubs, too.
See that?
Look at the fucking body on that thing.
That thing is filthy.
brendan schaub
And the ducktail on the back.
That's the only reason I bought my car, because of the ducktail.
joe rogan
Look at the back end.
Oh, my God.
That might be one of the best looking cars ever.
brendan schaub
Ever.
joe rogan
Ever.
brendan schaub
What's the interior like on that, Jamie?
joe rogan
Oh, it's phenomenal.
brendan schaub
It's orange.
It's going to be orange, I assume?
joe rogan
Look at the center locks, man.
And like people will say, all bespoke, the interior.
Look at that.
unidentified
Oh, God.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
brendan schaub
How much is it?
joe rogan
1.6 million.
brendan schaub
Makes me want to risk it all.
Yeah, right?
Sign up for it.
joe rogan
If I was Connor, I would do one of them Burger King commercials and buy one of these.
brendan schaub
Dude, if I were you, I'd get one of these fucking things.
joe rogan
It's not my style.
That's a little too...
brendan schaub
A little too flexed on them?
My car's lipstick orange, so I'm into it.
joe rogan
I got a silver Bronco already.
I got that silver Corvette that I have.
That's about as...
brendan schaub
That's your style, though.
joe rogan
...as look at my dick as you can get.
brendan schaub
I mean, you got a freaking, you know, that night red fucking Porsche.
The classic red.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a Guards red.
brendan schaub
It's Guards red.
Yeah.
It's a great color.
joe rogan
It's good.
You'll see it soon.
What's the matter?
jamie vernon
He's trying to do dips, but he's not quite doing it.
joe rogan
We're watching Callan work out on the security camera.
brendan schaub
Why doesn't he come in here?
joe rogan
Because he's Callan.
Let's wrap this up.
We'll go get him.
All right.
Let's do it.
Got any comedy dates coming up?
brendan schaub
Yes.
I'm in Oxnard, Levity Live next week.
Great club.
This is all March.
Oxnard, Levity Live next week.
Friday, Saturday.
Friday, Saturday.
That'd be March 16th, 17th, Levity Live, Oxnard.
And then the following week, I'm in Florida, Tampa the 22nd, Palm Beach 23rd and 24th, Orlando on the 25th.
joe rogan
Brendonshop.com?
brendan schaub
TFATK.com.
joe rogan
TFATK.com.
brendan schaub
And then check out Below the Belt.
First episode's out.
joe rogan
Oh, that's right.
brendan schaub
At Below the Belt, my Showtime show dropped.
joe rogan
Powerful Showtime.
brendan schaub
Powerful Showtime.
unidentified
Blowing the fuck up!
brendan schaub
What's up, brother?
unidentified
Woo!
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