April 7, 2010 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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| I might do a show with Diaz in New York. | ||
| Boom! | ||
| Live? | ||
| Jamie's giving me the not sure look. | ||
| Yes! | ||
| You and Joey Diaz talking about doing a show in New York? | ||
| Maybe, man. | ||
| Damn. | ||
| Maybe, brother. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| You don't want to talk about it? | ||
| Yeah, no. | ||
| You need to find one here. | ||
| I got a Joey Diaz story. | ||
| We're going to do a show with me and Joey and Yoel motherfucking Romero. | ||
| And he's going to talk to him if he gets confused in Spanish. | ||
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That's going to be amazing. | |
| Because Joey's from Cuba. | ||
| Dude, are you kidding me? | ||
| So Joey Diaz is going to translate? | ||
| It's totally Joey's idea. | ||
| Joey says, bro, I've been talking to him. | ||
| I love this fucking guy. | ||
| We'd have an amazing podcast. | ||
| You and me, you throwing the questions at him. | ||
| If shit gets weird, I'll come to him in Spanish. | ||
| We'll understand each other better. | ||
| It's a brilliant idea. | ||
| This is what Joey said. | ||
| He said, he goes, tell him that I want to be on his podcast because he has love for Cuba. | ||
| He understands Cuban love. | ||
| Love it. | ||
| I was like, all that shit that he was doing to Luke Rockhold after he knocked him out, it's like, that's intense. | ||
| Bro, back up. | ||
| That's intense. | ||
| Give me a few minutes, you just knocked me into freaking... | ||
| That's intense. | ||
| Give me a fucking second to get my wits about me and then kiss me on the lips or whatever the fuck you want to do it. | ||
| His ability to just be calm and then explode is very terrifying. | ||
| It's only helped by him telling you he loves you. | ||
| He's more terrifying than ever. | ||
| It's scary because he's such a nice guy outside. | ||
| Dude, he is the nicest guy. | ||
| He's very friendly. | ||
| Remember the champ, though, was like, oh yeah, that's what you do. | ||
| Whitaker, you know, Whitaker's a monster, man. | ||
| You gotta go back to that Tim Kennedy fight, though, man. | ||
| Talking about Stoolgate? | ||
| Yeah, that Tim Kennedy fight was crazy. | ||
| It was like, look, I know what you're doing is very slick. | ||
| This is very smart. | ||
| I mean, this is Angelo Dundee did that to Muhammad Ali when he fought Henry Cooper in London. | ||
| He got cracked with a left hook. | ||
| Henry Cooper dropped him. | ||
| He was in real trouble. | ||
| They cut the glove, baby. | ||
| Suspect. | ||
| Cut that glove, baby. | ||
| We gotta get the other pair. | ||
| Oh, it's out there in the dressing room. | ||
| Be right back. | ||
| It's all fair and loving more, my man. | ||
| Yeah, it ain't the right way to do it, but you gotta realize that this guy had gone through the whole amateur wrestling system as a representative of Cuba. | ||
| Matt Brown and I did a podcast last week, and Matt Brown spent... | ||
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Love Matt. | |
| He's a great guy and fascinating dude, man. | ||
| Intense, smart motherfucker. | ||
| Matt died. | ||
| People get a chance to... | ||
| He did. | ||
| He died, and they brought him back. | ||
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Matt died. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, we talked about that. | ||
| I was like, you and Court McGee both have this, like, creepy thing to you. | ||
| Because you both crossed over to the other side, and you don't give a fuck. | ||
| And how was it? | ||
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Woo! | |
| Both guys, man. | ||
| You gotta beat them. | ||
| They don't beat each other. | ||
| You literally have to take them out. | ||
| Or they don't beat themselves, rather. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, Matt Brown ain't beating himself. | ||
| Like, he's a human. | ||
| What's he doing now? | ||
| He is going to fight Carlos Condit. | ||
| Oh, that's right. | ||
| He's coming back for a while. | ||
| He ended on that dope-ass knockout of Diego with the elbow. | ||
| Maybe behind the air, but all's fair. | ||
| A little bit. | ||
| I thought he was going to ride off to the sunset, and now he's fighting Carlos Condit. | ||
| So he was explaining about his camp that he did in Cuba. | ||
| It's an amazing story. | ||
| Amazing. | ||
| He spent like six weeks in Cuba. | ||
| Matt Brown? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| His white ass was in Cuba? | ||
| His white ass was in Cuba with the wrestling team for six fucking weeks for one of the camps for one of his fights. | ||
| He boxed in Cuba against Cuban boxers and he wrestled in Cuba. | ||
| That's a tough go. | ||
| And he lived in a Cuban fighter's house. | ||
| They had him there and they fed him. | ||
| How long ago? | ||
| Which fight was it that he said? | ||
| Try to remember which fight. | ||
| If you pull up his record, it was fairly recently. | ||
| He's a bad motherfucker, dude. | ||
| He's just trying to get better, man. | ||
| He's just trying to get better, and that's what he figured was the move. | ||
| He has one more left, though, yeah? | ||
| Let's be real here. | ||
| He's on the Masters Tour. | ||
| He knows I love him. | ||
| He's on the Masters Tour. | ||
| I think he said it was for the Tim Means fight. | ||
| I'm pretty sure he said it was the Tim Means fight. | ||
| Well then after that, let's get back to Cuba. | ||
| So rude. | ||
| So rude. | ||
| I'm just saying. | ||
| But look, man, he fought Damien Maia, okay, who is the constrictor of all constrictors. | ||
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Nightmare. | |
| If Damien Maia can get you to the ground, I don't think, most people don't understand what that kind of jiu-jitsu feels like. | ||
| I've rolled with a few guys that were my size that just went through me. | ||
| Jake Shields is what I talk about him all the time. | ||
| Wrestling with him is like wrestling with a chimp. | ||
| Carl Parisian, same thing. | ||
| It's like holding on to a chimp. | ||
| Like, good luck, bitch. | ||
| You might look like me. | ||
| It's a nightmare. | ||
| You know, it's like you see a guy, like maybe he does CrossFit, you're like, oh, that guy looks fucking strong. | ||
| No, there's a different, there's like a Ben Askren strong, where it doesn't even look strong, just looks like a fit, athletic guy, and they grab you and you're like, what in the fuck is going on here? | ||
| Why can't I move? | ||
| And they twist you up. | ||
| It's a different kind of strong. | ||
| They move different. | ||
| It's a different kind of strong. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| Damian Maia's got that strong to strong guys. | ||
| True. | ||
| He does that shit to guys like Carlos Condon. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| I mean, he's the motherfucker of motherfuckers when it comes to strangling people. | ||
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That's a terrible fight for Matt Brown. | |
| That's a terrible fight for him. | ||
| And what he did to Neil Magny, he just kept closing, closing, closing. | ||
| It was like watching a goddamn snake. | ||
| It was like watching a snake take out a deer. | ||
| It was terrifying. | ||
| Slowly get to that back, just tighter and tighter. | ||
| And every time he corrected, it got tighter and tighter. | ||
| You see Neil Magny just drowning. | ||
| Like, fuck! | ||
| He looked like that zebra in the alligator's mouth. | ||
| Just like, yeah! | ||
| You know, I'll tell you what was equally impressive, man, is Rafael dos Anjos in Neil Magny. | ||
| I was like, holy fuck did I read that wrong. | ||
| Me too. | ||
| I thought Neil Magny was going to give him a real good fight. | ||
| Because of his cardio reach? | ||
| Cardio reach, footwork, movement, discipline, sticks to the game plan. | ||
| Neil Magny's a difficult guy to fight. | ||
| Now Carlos Kahn did fight. | ||
| Unless you get him down, his jiu-jitsu is an Achilles heel. | ||
| Well... | ||
| He, I mean, Damian Maia obviously got him, but the way Dos Anjos got him was like, holy fuck, at 170, Dos Anjos is more aggressive and stronger, it seems to me. | ||
| He's a motherfucker. | ||
| Doesn't it seem he's stronger? | ||
| He's way better. | ||
| He looks healthy. | ||
| He moves. | ||
| He has more power. | ||
| He's putting his combinations better together. | ||
| And he's just on the lighter side of being one of those big guys, so it seems like he's got more speed. | ||
| He reminds me kind of like Robert Whittaker. | ||
| To me, people go, he's a little small. | ||
| He's almost perfect. | ||
| He's not huge. | ||
| He's not muscle-bound. | ||
| He can do everything really well. | ||
| Whittaker stuffed Yoel Romero's takedowns with a blown-out knee. | ||
| He got his knee blown out in the first round, and he still stuffed takedowns. | ||
| Whitaker is a fucking savage! | ||
| I'm all up on that Australian train right now. | ||
| I think it's another thing where the guy was cutting weight, making 170, just struggling. | ||
| Man, just struggling. | ||
| I really wish the way that Ben Askren described how 1FC is doing it, where they're doing this hydration test. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| They're doing a hydration test when you weigh in. | ||
| They're doing a hydration test leading up to the fight. | ||
| And everybody bumped up a weight class. | ||
| And he's like at 185, because that's really what he weighs. | ||
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Exactly. | |
| Not to change subjects, but I listen to Ben Askren. | ||
| I've always been a huge fan of Ben Askren. | ||
| I think it's such a shame he never fought in the UFC. I think he beats anyone in the world in the UFC. I really do. | ||
| Well, we would like to see, at the very least... | ||
| If I had to bet on it, and I'm a betting man, I'd put a lot of dollars on Ben Askren. | ||
| That being said... | ||
| He's very articulate. | ||
| That man needs to do his own podcast. | ||
| He needs to do something as far as entertainment. | ||
| He does a wrestling podcast. | ||
| I'm just saying there's more he could do. | ||
| Yeah, I agree with you. | ||
| I thought he was brilliant on that. | ||
| He's a brilliant guy and he's just smart and unique as a person. | ||
| And you can either appreciate that or not. | ||
| That's marketable, man. | ||
| Well, it is marketable, in my opinion, but it might not be, because I'm just coming at it from a point of view as a fan. | ||
| I mean, I'm a fan. | ||
| Which is what we want to hear. | ||
| Listen, for me, it's a no-brainer. | ||
| You want to see the best versus the best, and he has been able to do weird shit to people. | ||
| Has he been hit, what, three years? | ||
| Dude, he said his last two fights he didn't get hit once. | ||
| He goes, I haven't been punched in the face in three years, Joe. | ||
| When I hear that, I'm like, dude, that's so marketable. | ||
| It's like the Floyd Mayweather thing. | ||
| Super articulate, super smart. | ||
| Speaks well. | ||
| Smart dude. | ||
| Good looking. | ||
| Great guy. | ||
| Good dude. | ||
| He's a character. | ||
| He's a coach, for God's sakes, wrestling. | ||
| Kids. | ||
| I'm not a promoter. | ||
| I'm not a promoter. | ||
| I have no say. | ||
| And I don't want it. | ||
| I don't want it. | ||
| I'm too busy. | ||
| Let me holler at you, Don. | ||
| Listen, I know you're stressed at the gills. | ||
| Look, he knows how to promote. | ||
| He's a promoter. | ||
| I don't know jack shit about promotion. | ||
| I could be wrong. | ||
| I might just be such a purist that I want the best to fight the best so much I don't give a fuck what I look like. | ||
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You know the sport. | |
| You know the sport. | ||
| Don't sell yourself short. | ||
| I guarantee you we could sell Ben Askren. | ||
| If you and I put on a promotion, I guarantee you I could sell Ben Askren. | ||
| I guarantee I could get into people's heads why this is important. | ||
| It's important if the art form is important. | ||
| If it's just important to put on a good show, then, you know, you could always have guys just stand in the middle of the octagon and throwing lead at each other, and let's see what happens. | ||
| There's no longevity in that. | ||
| There's no longevity in that, but it's very entertaining, and there have been moments like when Francisco Rivera and John Lineker just fucking threw down at each other until one guy broke. | ||
| That's... | ||
| I do not recommend anybody fighting like that, but that shit is crazy to watch. | ||
| It's undeniable. | ||
| That's gonna get the people out of their seats. | ||
| That's gonna get people freaking out about it. | ||
| You gotta sprinkle that kind of style in every now and then. | ||
| That's fun. | ||
| But as a sport, we can't do that. | ||
| I think, but every now and then, when something like that happens, like with Ricardo Lamas and Max Holloway, when Max Holloway pointed down at the ground, it's like, come on, bitch, a fight he was already winning! | ||
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Motherfucker. | |
| That shows you who Max is, man. | ||
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I love that guy. | |
| That's real shit. | ||
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That motherfucker's bad. | |
| Look, it's bad! | ||
| I'm such a fan. | ||
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Me too. | |
| I'm such a fan. | ||
| I love him. | ||
| With this new Showtime show I'm doing, I interviewed Frankie, and it's tough for me because I love Frankie, but I'm such a Max Holloway fan. | ||
| It's tough for me not to show the favoritism. | ||
| You know what, man? | ||
| I might be a... | ||
| I love both of them. | ||
| I might be a... | ||
| I've known Frankie longer. | ||
| Yeah, I know Frankie way better. | ||
| I'm a giant Max Holloway fan, but I have to do this thing that I do, where I don't want anybody to win. | ||
| I just want to see what the result is. | ||
| See, I don't want anyone to lose. | ||
| I'm not good at that. | ||
| You're one of the best in the world to do it. | ||
| It's still hard, though, man. | ||
| I'm not good at that. | ||
| I don't want anyone to lose. | ||
| I love Yoel Romero, and I love Luke, but I've been... | ||
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I love you! | |
| I love you, gay Jesus! | ||
| But I... I know what those guys feel like when they lose and there's everything on the table. | ||
| I know for Luke how he changed camps and sometimes that's just you're on a boat and there's holes and you think if you paddle further away from the original camp you're going to fill these holes and it doesn't work like that. | ||
| Well I think maybe he just needed a fresh look. | ||
| I mean it might have been a good move for him but he fought Yoel Romero. | ||
| I mean the reality is Yoel Romero is fucking horrifying. | ||
| He's horrifying. | ||
| Luke can beat him. | ||
| Luke can beat him. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He might be able to, but he also might be able to get hit exactly like he got hit in that fight every time they fight. | ||
| Dude, you don't know, man. | ||
| I'm saying I don't know. | ||
| I've seen a better version of Luke. | ||
| To me, as far as skill-wise, besides Whitaker right now, he's on another level. | ||
| But I look at the roster, and to me, Luke is the most complete middleweight in the world. | ||
| I can even see him being the light heavyweight champion. | ||
| Gus Finn might give him some problems. | ||
| Besides Gus, there's going to be some issues for those guys. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| Maybe him going... | ||
| I mean, he's been talking about an inevitable climb to 205. He might be just like Whitaker and just like... | ||
| Who else were we talking about? | ||
| Rafael dos Anjos. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He might be a better fighter at 205. He might be so fucking lean, man. | ||
| The problem there is what made Luke so great was that swagger. | ||
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Like... | |
| People are like, oh, he's so cocky. | ||
| I get that. | ||
| I actually want my fighter like that. | ||
| I liked how he was so arrogant and cocky. | ||
| Sometimes people don't gravitate towards it, but for a guy like Luke, he just thrived off that. | ||
| And now when I see him, in the Branch fight, I didn't see it as much. | ||
| I thought that fight was a little suspect. | ||
| Not taking anything away from Branch, but that should have been easier for Luke. | ||
| And I see the Yoel Romero fight. | ||
| That killer instinct wasn't there. | ||
| I know you have five rounds, but he would let Yoel explode and reset. | ||
| When you reset, you've got to Go, man. | ||
| You gotta go. | ||
| Branch might not have the best results inside the octagon, but when it comes to technical skill, he's a super high-level fighter. | ||
| His skill level and his capabilities, I don't think, have matched up to all of his performances. | ||
| And you saw that when he's attacking Luke. | ||
| He's fucking good, man. | ||
| He put him in real trouble. | ||
| Oh, I'm not saying he's not good. | ||
| Oh, he's very good. | ||
| Oh, I'm not saying that. | ||
| And his ground game's very good, but it makes Luke's win even more impressive. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| In World Series of fighting, he became light heavyweight champion, middleweight champion. | ||
| He's a monster, right? | ||
| In the UFC, he hasn't found his groove yet. | ||
| And he never has. | ||
| A lot of it's level of competition. | ||
| His first fight in the UFC was boring. | ||
| And then you get Luke Rockhold, which is no walk in the park. | ||
| So I do think Dave Branch is a monster. | ||
| Henzo Gracie Black Belt. | ||
| Well, this is his second round in the UFC. Remember he fought Gerald Harris and he got KO'd with that crazy slam from the guard? | ||
| He didn't have a good career before. | ||
| That was nuts. | ||
| That was crazy. | ||
| Gerald Harris is a powerful man. | ||
| Monster. | ||
| I'm just saying with Luke, it was this swagger when he thought he was the best in the world. | ||
| He was in Strike Forces when he got to the UFC when he was champion. | ||
| And then in the Bisping fight, he gets clipped with that left hook and he has problems with the left side for him. | ||
| So, you know, Bisping lands that, knocks him out, that short-notice fight, he thought he was going to walk through him. | ||
| Then he takes that long layoff, and he's trying to be a male model, and, you know, arguing with the UFC. It's just, it's somewhere along the lines that he lost a little bit of swagger. | ||
| When he gets that back, we're in good form. | ||
| Well, I'm curious to see what his journey with Henry Hooft, where that comes up. | ||
| How long have they been together now? | ||
| Like a year? | ||
| Maybe a year, yeah. | ||
| He moved out there. | ||
| Henry's an interesting coach, man. | ||
| He's a fucking powerful guy. | ||
| He's one of the best. | ||
| He's a very powerful guy. | ||
| You know what he doesn't have? | ||
| Is DC, and Cain Velasquez, and Khabib, and Josh Thompson, and these monsters. | ||
| You're surrounded by just these monsters. | ||
| Who's he training with? | ||
| And has he addressed that left side where he keeps getting hit, you know? | ||
| Which, what put him out? | ||
| You always left. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Two lefts. | ||
| Two lefts. | ||
| That uppercut was like a free-for-all. | ||
| Like, Mark Gardner, get a little closer. | ||
| You gotta get a little closer. | ||
| That would've been hard to get in the way of, though. | ||
| So you don't have your marrow just fucking... | ||
| Think about it. | ||
| It's hitting as hard as you can. | ||
| Yo, Romil, smash. | ||
| Literally, he's punching a human as hard as they can. | ||
| I didn't think it was a bad stoppage because he had his head up when he went down, and you've got to give one guy a chance to hit him. | ||
| Now, looking at it after the fact, you go, man, I wish he didn't get hit with that uppercut. | ||
| The fight was already over. | ||
| But In the moment. | ||
| In real time, I agree. | ||
| What if it doesn't happen? | ||
| I'm talking shit. | ||
| With Mark Goddard, I hear you. | ||
| Unless he ran up 4-2-40, you're not getting over it. | ||
| I think it's a perfect stoppage. | ||
| I think the first one, you don't really stop it yet. | ||
| You've got to see what's going on. | ||
| Let's flatline this motherfucker. | ||
| Let's flatline him. | ||
| You never know. | ||
| I hear you. | ||
| That one you kind of know. | ||
| Kind of, but after the fact we're saying that. | ||
| I still have the angle of video. | ||
| Let's talk about Frankie Edgar. | ||
| That fucking guy's a zombie. | ||
| He comes back from the dead. | ||
| He gets cracked by Gray Maynard in two fights to the point where it looks like it's over. | ||
| I'm glad you brought this up. | ||
| It's over. | ||
| He's been rocked and he comes back in the most incredible way. | ||
| When I sit down with him, we're talking about that, and we're talking about concussions and CT because he has kids and stuff. | ||
| And I said, like that gray maniard fight, you know, you were concussed, and he came back. | ||
| He goes, what's crazy about that, Brendan, is I wasn't concussed. | ||
| No signs at all. | ||
| I went, I'm going to stop you. | ||
| I'm going to stop you. | ||
| Who told you? | ||
| He goes, didn't even throw up. | ||
| I went, so that's your sign for... | ||
| Not concussed? | ||
| You didn't throw up? | ||
| I said, that is such bro sign, Frankie. | ||
| Look at me when I tell you this. | ||
| You had brain trauma in that fight, man. | ||
| Fucking telling you, bro. | ||
| There's no way he didn't. | ||
| It's impossible. | ||
| I mean, maybe he'll recover 100%, but the fucking heart that it took to come back from that and draw in one fight and then KO him in the second fight. | ||
| Legend, brother. | ||
| Fucking crazy. | ||
| What's crazy if you look at Frankie's record, you know, when they toss him the Yair Rodriguez's, you know, these young cats, he eats them up like Kobayashi. | ||
| Now Brian Burr's Cup Swanson fight? | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| He does this to these young kids, man. | ||
| Brian Ortega's a totally different animal, though. | ||
| Totally different animal if he gets a hole in your neck. | ||
| You cannot fuck around with that dude on the ground. | ||
| We're talking real high-level jiu-jitsu. | ||
| He beat Cup Swanson basically twice. | ||
| Saved by the bell and then got his neck again. | ||
| I don't think people who are watching him are yet 100% aware of what he's capable of. | ||
| He's a fucking killer on the ground, dude. | ||
| He cinches shit up at one of the highest levels I've ever seen in that debate. | ||
| You should see him in training and practice. | ||
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I can't imagine. | |
| I've known Brian forever, and he's a guy where, you know, one of the reasons why he got so good, remember, he teaches at the Gracie Academy in Torrance nonstop. | ||
| Right, that's a big thing. | ||
| He's constantly teaching, helping everyone. | ||
| He's a great kid, man. | ||
| Monster. | ||
| Dude, his triangle is one of the best I've ever seen. | ||
| It's so quick. | ||
| He's so fucking nasty off of his back. | ||
| He's a million setups. | ||
| And the fucking dexterity of his legs, man. | ||
| And when he cinches shit up, it's super high level. | ||
| And I've talked about it for a long time, with guys with that high level jiu-jitsu, you know, a lot of them want to wrestle non-stop, but the wrestler hasn't caught up to their jiu-jitsu. | ||
| With him, he's not afraid to jump to guard, he's not afraid to do flying triangles, he's not afraid to jump to half guard, he doesn't give a fuck. | ||
| That's how he's raised into this, where Henner Gracie and Huron Gracie just, hey man, don't be scared, off your back, you're beating dudes. | ||
| Yeah, it's a really interesting combination of boxing, because now he's become a very good boxer. | ||
| So his hands, which he's very comfortable boxing, and then guys are trying to take him down, right? | ||
| And that was the fight before this last one, right? | ||
| The dude tried to take him down and got guillotined? | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And he was pulling things out. | ||
| It went late, and then he'd pull off these late submissions. | ||
| These guys would tie, but you give him an inch, he takes a mile with your neck. | ||
| When he got a hold of Cubs' neck, you could see. | ||
| Like, it's just a whole nother level of squeeze and technique and sharpness, and everything's in the perfect place, and everything has perfect leverage, and when he grabs a hold of something, he cinches it up real quickly. | ||
| And he believes in it wholeheartedly. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| Like, if he gets, he goes, Oh, this is over. | ||
| Yeah, he's done it to everybody. | ||
| He's done it to so many people in training. | ||
| He does it to every high, high, I won't say names, high, high-level dudes in training where you're like, holy fuck. | ||
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Super legit. | |
| Super legit. | ||
| That is a fucking dangerous fight for Frankie to accept on short notice. | ||
| How gangster is Frankie? | ||
| I'll take that killer. | ||
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Gangster as it gets. | |
| Legend, man. | ||
| Gangster as it gets. | ||
| Different fight. | ||
| Brian Ortega has a different fight on his hands, too, because... | ||
| It's going to be tough to take Frankie down, but what Brian does have, he has a size advantage. | ||
| Doesn't have a speed advantage, doesn't have a wrestling advantage. | ||
| I think Frankie puts everything together better. | ||
| As far as killer instinct, Brian Ortega. | ||
| That's his X factor. | ||
| I read the other day that Frankie's never been finished. | ||
| I went, wow! | ||
| That's incredible. | ||
| That's incredible. | ||
| He's never been submitted? | ||
| And he also has that... | ||
| Ricardo Almeida is his jiu-jitsu coach he trains with every day. | ||
| And he's with Marlon Marais, too, right? | ||
| They have Marlon Marais, they got Frankie, they got Eddie Alvarez, who's a monster, and they're training every single day. | ||
| Oh, and Barbosa. | ||
| That's their camp. | ||
| Oh, and their leader happens to be the best mind in the game, Mark Henry. | ||
| Dude, that's a hell of a camp right there. | ||
| That's a hell of a camp. | ||
| It's ridiculous. | ||
| And for Eddie Alvarez and Frankie and Barboza, it's just like this perfect storm of killers. | ||
| And you have this brilliant mind, the Einstein of mixed martial arts and Mark Henry, who's just this fucking savage, man. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's brilliant what they're doing up there. | ||
| Yeah, it's one of the hot camps, right? | ||
| I asked Frankie, I said, were you surprised what happened with Barboza and Khabib? | ||
| He goes, dude, Barboza's a motherfucker to take down. | ||
| Eddie and I have struggled, man. | ||
| I said, think how good Khabib is. | ||
| Scary. | ||
| Scary! | ||
| That Khabib-Tony fight, son. | ||
| It's my number one fight I want to see this year! | ||
| There's just people that I think have evolved from generation after generation after generation of grappler. | ||
| There seems to be something happening with those Russian folks and those Dagestan folks, and especially him with his dad being this fucking amazing trainer. | ||
| He's just... | ||
| Just tougher than us, Joe. | ||
| Tougher. | ||
| We're not the same. | ||
| Something happens when he grabs ahold of guys that you just don't see. | ||
| Barboza's face was like, what the fuck? | ||
| He's just getting run over by a freight train. | ||
| Just a guy with unstoppable pressure. | ||
| Constant punches to the face. | ||
| You're never getting up. | ||
| You feel it. | ||
| You know you're never getting up. | ||
| And if you do get up, it's going to cost you so much energy to get up, you're going to be exhausted. | ||
| And then you know this guy can take you down again. | ||
| If he takes you down again, you're three quarters helpless. | ||
| Three quarters helpless. | ||
| Next round, you're going to be half helpless. | ||
| Next round after that, you're basically helpless. | ||
| You're just tough. | ||
| You're just surviving on your toughness. | ||
| And you know he's going to take you down again and beat your face in again. | ||
| It's like ISIS torching, man. | ||
| I'd rather just get murked real fast by Francis than fighting Khabib. | ||
| It's a savage, slow death. | ||
| It's a savage, slow fight. | ||
| But here's the thing. | ||
| He's never fought anybody like Tony. | ||
| Tony is so different. | ||
| He's so different. | ||
| Completely different animal. | ||
| He's so different. | ||
| He's so dangerous on his feet. | ||
| He's hard to take down. | ||
| He scrambles like crazy. | ||
| He's well aware of what it takes to protect himself on the ground. | ||
| He takes a tremendous shot. | ||
| He's got crazy Darces. | ||
| He pulls Darces up on people that are like, you know, he did the barboza. | ||
| Remember that fucking crazy ass fight and he slaps that Darce on him. | ||
| That Darce is tight, son. | ||
| His Darce is world class. | ||
| Here's the X Factor with Tony and Khabib, is to me, Tony's getting taken down. | ||
| I swear I'd bet my life saving that he gets taken down. | ||
| That's not the fight. | ||
| The fight starts once it hits the ground, because Tony Ferguson off his back is a monster. | ||
| A monster. | ||
| Elbows to his triangle, like his triangle with Kevin Lee. | ||
| Now, Kevin Lee's a different grappler than Khabib, but still, his setups, but his elbows, if you rest, he's going to whoop your ass from his back. | ||
| So to me, that fight happens on the ground. | ||
| You've got to be careful of who's judging that fight, because... | ||
| Tony can win even if he's whooping his ass from his back. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| Yes, it is entirely possible that Tony could be hitting him and trying to attack with submissions. | ||
| And you don't like doing MMA math, but they both fought Barboza and Tony was able to finish him. | ||
| Tony has a better resume, for sure. | ||
| Well, he finishes guys, you know, I mean, he catches guys that are really high level with jujitsu techniques. | ||
| I mean, especially that darts. | ||
| Super dangerous. | ||
| Khabib, you know exactly what he's gonna do. | ||
| You know, his striking isn't world-class, but his grappling, his pressure, everything else is world-class. | ||
| We also haven't seen him five rounds. | ||
| Five rounds with Tony is a tough task, man. | ||
| It's a tough task. | ||
| Because Tony gets better. | ||
| But he thrives in that kind of dog situation where he's just going, going, going. | ||
| So to me, for Khabib, if he goes that fourth, fifth round... | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| Well, we don't know. | ||
| That's why this fight's so good to me. | ||
| That's why it's my number one fight this year. | ||
| I swear to God, if either one of them gets hurt, I'm going to cry. | ||
| Oh, you get me so excited. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then think about, let me just fucking get your dick out, Stipe DC. That's a great fight, too. | ||
| That's a super fight. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's a fucking super fight. | ||
| We talk about all these super fights. | ||
| That's a legit super fight. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That is a super fight, right? | ||
| It's such a close fight! | ||
| It's a very good fight. | ||
| And DC's undefeated at heavyweight. | ||
| Was a former world champion from Strikeforce. | ||
| It's also when you see DC wrestler Vulcan, you go, oh, there are levels to this shit, kid. | ||
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Come back! | |
| Oh, Vulcan, you got time, son. | ||
| You got time. | ||
| You got time now. | ||
| You got time to work on your wrestling. | ||
| I'm just kidding. | ||
| I love you, Vulcan. | ||
| But the thing is, it's funny, but he actually looked really good. | ||
| I've been in that clinch with DC, and that is no picnic. | ||
| He threw me around like a rag doll. | ||
| He did real good until he didn't do good anymore. | ||
| And then DC did exactly what he said he was going to do. | ||
| By the end of the round, he had his neck and he just was saved by the bell. | ||
| And then when we went to the second round, you know, you could tell what was going on. | ||
| How great is DC? DC's amazing. | ||
| He's amazing. | ||
| That just shows you how fucking great John Jones is. | ||
| That's the whole top of the pyramid. | ||
| If you're John Jones... | ||
| You go to the top of the spear and you go, what? | ||
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Okay. | |
| Jesus, how good is this guy? | ||
| Yeah, and John trained for one week and was high off his ass. | ||
| Yeah, listen, man. | ||
| That's how good he is. | ||
| He's a fucking wizard. | ||
| He's on another level. | ||
| Best of all time. | ||
| PEDs. | ||
| Phenomenal. | ||
| However, if you're John, you're sitting at home right now in your underwear thinking about the bad decisions you've made and hopefully that you're going to get back in the UFC, DC's taking your career path. | ||
| Because John always wanted to go to heavyweight, wanted to fight Stipe, wanted to do all this shit. | ||
| DC goes, oh cool, hold my bear, and then just does his thing. | ||
| Dude, can you imagine how big DC would be if John comes back and DC beats him? | ||
| Do you know how big he would be? | ||
| Do you know how crazy that would be? | ||
| That'd be crazy. | ||
| How about they fight at heavyweight? | ||
| Well, they're going to fight at heavyweight. | ||
| You think so? | ||
| Yeah, DC gets that belt. | ||
| Kyle, there's a 95% chance that Jon Jones fights in the UFC in 2018. So you're saying there's a chance. | ||
| You're telling me there's a chance. | ||
| That's his agent, though. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
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That's his agent. | |
| Is his agent Jim Carrey? | ||
| Yeah, right. | ||
| So you're telling me there's a chance. | ||
| You can't really listen to agents. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| Yeah, that guy, first of all... | ||
| My agent thinks I'm going to be the next Rock. | ||
| He's full of shit. | ||
| You know, if you talk to him, I'm the greatest thing walking this earth. | ||
| It is entirely possible that he accidentally took... | ||
| And people are saying that I'm being paid to say this. | ||
| I'm going to tell you right now, UFC's never paid me to say anything other than the truth. | ||
| The reality about it is they don't know what he took. | ||
| They don't know what happened. | ||
| They don't know how he got it. | ||
| And the theory that I talked about is just a rumor that was going around that someone was trying to explain one way it could have happened, and it's through tainted creatine. | ||
| That was backed up by Nowitzki, the golden snitch, who is an actual employee of the UFC. And he explained it. | ||
| The UFC does not pay you to say anything on this podcast. | ||
| No. | ||
| You're a commentator. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| They're not telling you things to say. | ||
| But here's the thing, to their credit, they've never tried. | ||
| They've never, ever, ever tried. | ||
| Well, they know better. | ||
| But if they ever talk to me about something, it's something we all agree with. | ||
| Like, you know, like maybe Dana and I have conversations about, like, this is a big fight. | ||
| Are you pumped for this? | ||
| I'm like, fuck, dude. | ||
| I can't even wait. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Are you kidding me? | ||
| You can't put in a word for Ben Asker. | ||
| You son of a bitch. | ||
| Dude, I've talked to him about it in the past. | ||
| Once you start insulting him and fucking with him, he's like, I'm busy. | ||
| He's forgiving, no. | ||
| Oh, you gotta talk to him. | ||
| He doesn't hate me anymore. | ||
| No, he doesn't. | ||
| I hope he doesn't. | ||
| I think if Ben and him sat down and I could be there, maybe I could help. | ||
| You gotta be the middleman. | ||
| I would do that. | ||
| I'd 100% be willing to do that. | ||
| You helped me out when I was going through the Reebok thing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, I think Ben is underutilized and not understood and underappreciated. | ||
| That's what I think. | ||
| It's a real shame, too, because the father's time, you know, you can't wait that long. | ||
| Did you see what he did to Korshkov? | ||
| You see what he did to Lima? | ||
| These are top-flight, super-powerful guys. | ||
| He ragdolls them. | ||
| And Khabib wants to give this fight 55 and go to 70. What's up, son? | ||
| And, you know, he had that interesting conversation about when he fought Jay Huron, which is his toughest fight in Bellator. | ||
| A long time ago, yeah. | ||
| Split decision. | ||
| But he said he wasn't wrestling. | ||
| He said he fucked up. | ||
| He said he was trying to just work on his striking, and his wrestling was off. | ||
| And I was like, that's incredible that someone as good as him still needs to be constantly doing it to stay sharp. | ||
| He forgot what got you to the dance. | ||
| I'm like, that's amazing. | ||
| And so ever since then, he's concentrated on his wrestling and he's just taking everybody down. | ||
| Like, when he concentrates on his wrestling and he's constantly doing it... | ||
| That's the way to do it. | ||
| And even Curtis Blades, I text you, I'm like, dude, this Australia card's ridiculous. | ||
| Yeah, I was fucking hate on it, getting it over with. | ||
| But that card was amazing. | ||
| But Curtis Blades goes, listen, man, you guys want to boo me? | ||
| Hate to tell you, I don't enjoy getting punched in the face. | ||
| I'm not trying to get punched in the face. | ||
| Not by Mark Hunt. | ||
| I'm just trying to get, by anyone. | ||
| I'm just trying to get paid. | ||
| How good is Curtis Blades' chin? | ||
| It's the beard. | ||
| Dude, he took some shots. | ||
| Mark Hunt put it on him, man. | ||
| Blast him. | ||
| He was almost out of it. | ||
| Yeah, and he gets the double. | ||
| Like, fuck yeah, that's what you're supposed to do. | ||
| This is fighting. | ||
| That's exactly what you're supposed to do. | ||
| And I'm biased as fuck as Curtis from my old camp, and I see those guys, I talk to them, they tell me how much of a monster he is, and I love Mark Hunt. | ||
| I didn't want anyone to lose that fight. | ||
| When I see Mark Hunt getting taken down, Mark Hunt to me is like the white rhino, the last white rhino. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| He's the last remaining white rhino. | ||
| We gotta protect this guy. | ||
| Don't give him the fucking just wrestler. | ||
| He's a legend. | ||
| Don't give him that guy. | ||
| Give him Francis. | ||
| Let's see how that plays out. | ||
| You know, not JDS, but you know what I'm saying. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| How dare you give him a fucking Juco National Champion and send it to Australia? | ||
| How dare you? | ||
| He almost won by knockout, though, and Mark's hard to take down. | ||
| I think it was a good test. | ||
| I think it was an important test. | ||
| Look, they tried to do the same thing with Derrick Lewis. | ||
| They gave Derrick Lewis a test at Mark Hunt. | ||
| Mark Hunt shut him down and stopped him. | ||
| Derrick Lewis is one of the best fucking heavyweights in the division. | ||
| Whoa, whoa, whoa. | ||
| One of the best heavyweights, not one of the best wrestlers. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But he still is one of the best guys. | ||
| He's a knockout artist and a promising up-and-coming guy. | ||
| They give him to Mark Hunt. | ||
| He cannot get past Mark Hunt. | ||
| True, but Mark Hunt... | ||
| This could have happened with Chris Blades, too. | ||
| Not really. | ||
| If it happened in Australia, but if it happened in Australia with all his fans there from New Zealand, dude, that's a big fight for him. | ||
| It's a smart fight. | ||
| Smart fight for who? | ||
| For both guys. | ||
| If Mark Hunt won, if he connected with a couple shots more, or if Curtis wasn't as tough and as good as he is, he could have knocked out anybody at that night. | ||
| For Curtis, it's a smart fight, right? | ||
| For Mark Hunt, it's a smart fight, too. | ||
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Not really. | |
| He's already a legend. | ||
| Yeah, but if he wins the way he almost won by knockout in Australia, it jumps you up even further. | ||
| Not really. | ||
| He's ranked fifth. | ||
| Yeah, but the excitement of the Perth crowd, you're as good as your last fight. | ||
| If he had two KOs in a row like that, that's big. | ||
| Yeah, I agree. | ||
| To me, stylistically, it's a bad matchup. | ||
| I understand what you're saying, but he's 40, and he's legitimately one or two big wins away from another title shot. | ||
| Think about what you have, right? | ||
| You have DC versus Stipe. | ||
| Whoever fights that, who are they going to fight next? | ||
| Mark Hunt knocks out... | ||
| Hold on a second. | ||
| He knocks out him, and then he knocks out someone... | ||
| Next. | ||
| Like, who could it be? | ||
| Okay. | ||
| You could try Overeem again, but the problem with Overeem fighting for the title again is he just lost to Stipe by knockout, and then he just lost to Francis by knockout. | ||
| And he got 13 there as well. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's number one, actually. | ||
| Yeah, you've got some fucking real interesting fights, but all it would take was Mark Hunt to beat one of those top guys, and he's in consideration again. | ||
| There's a small pool there. | ||
| Heavyweight's super small. | ||
| That's why Overeem keeps getting shuffled back to the top, as tough as he is, and it's not taking anything away from him. | ||
| There's not a lot of new blood being fed into the top tiers of the group. | ||
| There's no new blood, really. | ||
| Well, it's hard. | ||
| It's a fucking hard division to find talented guys. | ||
| I think it's the most difficult division. | ||
| Well, I think heavyweight's better off than light heavyweight. | ||
| Light heavyweight's like, Jesus Christ. | ||
| That's a shark tank. | ||
| Light heavyweight's got a lot of crazy shit going on right now, right? | ||
| Like, what happens if DC loses, or leaves, rather? | ||
| DC's gonna win the heavyweight belt and bounce. | ||
| So if he goes to heavyweight and stays at heavyweight... | ||
| Wins, bounces. | ||
| And think of that, man. | ||
| This is crazy, right? | ||
| Is it? | ||
| Imagine Kane going to 205. That's not happening. | ||
| He's too old. | ||
| He's going to fight at heavyweight. | ||
| Get away from them tacos. | ||
| Come on, Kane. | ||
| I've seen that show. | ||
| That dude eats. | ||
| He gets down with that Mexican food. | ||
| I don't blame him, man. | ||
| He's earned it. | ||
| However, Kane will fight. | ||
| He's not going to fight for the title right away. | ||
| He's going to fight once this year and then hopefully a title fight. | ||
| But I think what they're planning on is DC beats Stipe, vacates the belt, and then Canning a fight for the interim belt towards the end of the year or beginning of the early next year. | ||
| Damn, Stipe does not want to hear that kind of talk. | ||
| People just love to overlook Stipe Miocic. | ||
| It's fucking crazy. | ||
| Look at the heavyweight division though. | ||
| It's fucking land of the dinosaurs. | ||
| And then light heavyweight. | ||
| Well, Francis is terrifying for everyone on the planet other than Stipe Miocic. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| So Francis would lose. | ||
| I'm back off the train. | ||
| You're off the Francis train? | ||
| Goddamn, I'm off that train. | ||
| I didn't know he can't wrestle at all. | ||
| I didn't know he was like, how do you spell wrestling? | ||
| Listen, so Curtis Blade smokes him. | ||
| Cain Blasquez smokes him. | ||
| Smokes who? | ||
| Francis? | ||
| Yes, all day. | ||
| Really? | ||
| So you think Curtis Blades, when they fought the first time, just wasn't ready for him? | ||
| Remember, that got stopped via Dr. Stoppage in the second round. | ||
| I think he goes, hold up, you have zero wrestling? | ||
| You just hit mitts and lift weights and talked to employees at the UFC Institute? | ||
| The fuck? | ||
| Yeah, I'm gonna wrestle your ass. | ||
| I want to point out that I do not agree with that assessment. | ||
| I'm sure he trained his wrestling. | ||
| I'm sure he was in the best shape he could be. | ||
| That's not what he told me. | ||
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No, I'm just kidding. | |
| I think he burned down the first round. | ||
| I mean, I've watched it. | ||
| He definitely needs some more. | ||
| There's no technique as wrestling there. | ||
| From the very get-go, his sheer strength got him through some of those takedowns, but you look at his hand placement's hips, it's not there. | ||
| Now, it can come. | ||
| It's a tough business to be in and try and pick those skills up. | ||
| And you look at that list, you know, Derek Lewis, he can double leg your ass. | ||
| Mark Hunt, obviously a good matchup. | ||
| Curtis Blades, nightmare. | ||
| Cain Blasquez, nightmare. | ||
| Fabricio Verdum, fucking nightmare. | ||
| Al Stroverin can wrestle if he wants to. | ||
| Stipe, obviously nightmare. | ||
| We saw what he did to him. | ||
| The thing is, he's so fucking powerful that every one of them could get nighty-nighted with one shot. | ||
| The sport's evolved, my brother. | ||
| The sport is definitely evolved. | ||
| To be world champion. | ||
| Right, but you're looking at it through the eyes of someone who fought Stipe Miocic, right? | ||
| He fought Stipe Miocic, Stipe figured him out, Stipe beat him, right? | ||
| But Stipe is a very, very unusual character. | ||
| And there's some shots that he got hit with in that fight that a lot of dudes would not have been able to take. | ||
| I agree with that. | ||
| However, if Fabrizio gets you on the ground, and I promise you, if he got you down that often, he would have choked Francis unconscious. | ||
| That's a different animal. | ||
| On the ground, that's a different animal. | ||
| So is Kane, though. | ||
| Kane will beat you up on the ground for sure. | ||
| Stipe on the ground, he's not a big finisher. | ||
| He's going to fuck you up and he's going to wear you out. | ||
| He's not a huge finisher. | ||
| He doesn't look for submissions. | ||
| I'm sorry, Verdun will fucking get a hold of your neck. | ||
| He'll look for submissions. | ||
| And then think about Kane. | ||
| His ground pound's ferocious. | ||
| Ferocious. | ||
| Super accurate. | ||
| And the reps he puts in, bang, bang, bang, bang. | ||
| He breaks you. | ||
| Where Stipe's very controlled, he's going to take you down, he doesn't give a fuck. | ||
| He's going to wear you out. | ||
| Yeah, Kane has a crazy output. | ||
| Like, his output's disturbing. | ||
| Nuts. | ||
| You know, you watch the sheer volume and the pace of the takedowns and chaining takedowns together and beating you up on the way down. | ||
| You're like, wow. | ||
| What? | ||
| Javier Mendes said this once. | ||
| We were in the back and it was him and Crazy Bob Cook. | ||
| And I was like, dude, I think he was just... | ||
| I forget who it was that he fought. | ||
| But I said, I think he was just expecting to ride the storm out. | ||
| You know, like, because he just couldn't keep up with Kane. | ||
| And Javier goes, this storm doesn't ever go away. | ||
| He goes, that storm is there forever. | ||
| Like, you don't understand, there's no ride in this storm. | ||
| Yeah, you better fucking just gear down and try to match it. | ||
| I mean, they even talk openly about it. | ||
| Like, he's a freak. | ||
| Like, he'll take three weeks off, come back, and just runs through everybody. | ||
| There's something going on there. | ||
| There's something going on. | ||
| Unless he fights in Mexico. | ||
| Yeah, there's something going on. | ||
| Wow, that was a fucking mess, man. | ||
| Nobody could do that. | ||
| Nobody, even Cardio Kane, can't go to 7,000 feet without being there for a while. | ||
| It's a nightmare. | ||
| It's just too much... | ||
| Now, think about that relentless... | ||
| Sorry, I don't mean to interrupt you. | ||
| Think about the relentless approach, and DC's fight's very similar, against Steve Bay. | ||
| And to me, that's where I see when it first came out, I went, oh my god, it's a super fight. | ||
| Let me think about this. | ||
| What are my initial thoughts? | ||
| I always go, what's my initial thoughts about what most people are going to think? | ||
| Well, Stipe has knockout power. | ||
| His wrestling's good. | ||
| He puts everything together well. | ||
| But the cardio of DC's going to be an issue if DC can get past that third round. | ||
| That's a big, you know what I'm saying? | ||
| That's tremendous cardio, but so does Stipe. | ||
| And here's the other thing. | ||
| Think about Stipe, what we was able to do with Francis, right? | ||
| He caught Francis, who was the most dangerous guy in the division standing up. | ||
| The most dangerous guy in terms of making mistakes. | ||
| Hands down, yeah. | ||
| Hands down. | ||
| He caught him with some strong shots. | ||
| He tagged him several times. | ||
| And now think... | ||
| The difference in size between Stipe and DC. You've got a guy who doesn't hit as hard. | ||
| DC's definitely formidable on the feet, and he showed that in the Volkan fight. | ||
| He cracked Volkan. | ||
| His stand-up is very good. | ||
| But he's not absolutely terrifying with his punches. | ||
| He's not a technician. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Well, he is a technician. | ||
| I think he's a technician. | ||
| He gets away with something where he'll leave his hips and he'll pull back, which at heavyweight you're going to be in a little trouble. | ||
| Now, saying that, he is on the feet as a heavyweight, so... | ||
| Well, I was very impressed with his hands in the Volcon fight. | ||
| He was the one that was landing shots. | ||
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| He played that game. | ||
| And beat him. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And Volcon is fucking dangerous. | ||
| His stand-up is very, very dangerous. | ||
| So I'm impressed with him. | ||
| Yeah, me too. | ||
| I think he is a technician. | ||
| But he's like 5'11". | ||
| Stipe's 6'4". | ||
| Stipe's long, and he's very good at knocking out heavyweights. | ||
| I'm thinking of the way Stipe knocked out Verdum, the way Stipe was able to crack Francis. | ||
| Overeem. | ||
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| He knocked out Overeem. | ||
| Dude, he's a beast. | ||
| Junior Dos Santos, what he did to him. | ||
| Think about what he did to Mark Hunt. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Orlovsky, what he did to Orlovsky. | ||
| Dude, he's a beast. | ||
| This guy's heavyweight of all time in the UFC. Right now, you have to say he is, because he won the title three. | ||
| He's the only guy to defend it three times. | ||
| He's a fucking animal, so you got a tall order for DC. It's interesting because of his wrestling and his just ability to figure out how to win and how good he looked in the Volkan fight, but Volkan and Stipe are not the same. | ||
| Stipe is the heavyweight fucking champion of the world, and for whatever reason, people seem to want to look past him. | ||
| I don't understand it. | ||
| I don't know why. | ||
| I do it too, and Stipe's a buddy of mine. | ||
| Stipe's a buddy of mine. | ||
| Dude, you look past him now? | ||
| It's very strange. | ||
| You and I did the Wilbur together. | ||
| One of the fan questions, how Stipe beat fucking Francis? | ||
| I went, come out in a singlet and do not strike at all? | ||
| I'm scared for him, man. | ||
| But you look at it, Stipe just pulls it off, man. | ||
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He pulls it off. | |
| I don't know what it is. | ||
| He's a winner. | ||
| That's what it is. | ||
| He's a straight winner. | ||
| He's a winner. | ||
| He knows how to win. | ||
| But you know who's a winner and is an Olympian? | ||
| And to me, besides Jon Jones, is the greatest of all time? | ||
| Daniel Cormier. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| He has some other gear in him. | ||
| But also, at heavyweight, he's going to come in around 230. Right. | ||
| And then his leverage, and he's cockstrong. | ||
| That motherfucker in the clinch. | ||
| So there's Division I wrestling, Stipe, Cleveland State. | ||
| Then there's Oklahoma State wrestling, Olympic wrestling. | ||
| You're talking about WNBA to NBA All-Stars. | ||
| There's a complete difference there. | ||
| That's Ben Askren, for God's sake. | ||
| You can see it. | ||
| Remember when he fought Dan Henderson? | ||
| You're like, holy shit. | ||
| Remember when he picked up Josh Barnett? | ||
| Slammed him. | ||
| What he did to Dan Henderson, that was insulting. | ||
| That's a goddamn legend. | ||
| Dan Henderson is also an Olympian. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| He picked him and spiked him on his head like he was a four-year-old. | ||
| He threw him around like you never saw anybody do to Anderson before. | ||
| Show a little fucking respect. | ||
| And then he showed respect to Anderson Silva. | ||
| Well, that was a fight Anderson took on short notice, remember? | ||
| Otherwise, he probably wouldn't have got paid. | ||
| Still, how are you going to spike Dan Henderson, the goddamn American beauty? | ||
| Choked him out, too. | ||
| I know. | ||
| How dare you? | ||
| Dude, this is him versus Josh. | ||
| Oh, that's Josh Barnett. | ||
| That's Josh Barnett. | ||
| It's all three. | ||
| Josh did have a broken hand in that fight, though. | ||
| This is Dan Henderson. | ||
| That's insulting. | ||
| That's rude. | ||
| He's just so strong. | ||
| Look how strong he is. | ||
| That's Gusvin, who's 6'6". | ||
| How fucking strong DC is. | ||
| It's nuts, man. | ||
| It's not just technique. | ||
| The technique's amazing. | ||
| You gotta be so strong to be able to do that to Josh Barnett. | ||
| That is crazy. | ||
| He flips him through the air, and he's literally throwing him around like I would throw a 10-year-old. | ||
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I'm such a DC fan, man. | |
| Literally. | ||
| That's how I throw the tires in the gym, and that's difficult. | ||
| It's hard. | ||
| That's difficult. | ||
| He's such a beast. | ||
| I'm such a fan. | ||
| And you know what? | ||
| I like that fight, man. | ||
| What's crazy is DC slowly becoming the face of the UFC. He's becoming this world-like star. | ||
| He's becoming a superstar. | ||
| I think people are starting to realize, first of all, he's a really good guy. | ||
| Like a really, really good guy. | ||
| Like a genuinely good dude. | ||
| He's beautiful. | ||
| There's no act. | ||
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He's a beautiful person. | |
| And he's a fucking beast, man! | ||
| He's so tough! | ||
| And he throws dudes around, like, right there. | ||
| We're looking at his highlight reel right now. | ||
| What did he do to Dan Henderson? | ||
| He's a fucking insult in D.C. Dude! | ||
| Look, he gets a hold of Josh Barnett and he's like, nope, dude, I'm going down. | ||
| I don't give a fuck what you think. | ||
| Oh, you're the War Master? | ||
| Very cool. | ||
| Check that out. | ||
| Congratulations. | ||
| You're on your back. | ||
| It's just how he does it, man. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Boom! | ||
| His wrestling is just so many notches above most of the people he fights, which makes you even more fucking impressed with Jon Jones. | ||
| Oh, dude. | ||
| That's what makes me even more impressed. | ||
| Jon Jones took him down. | ||
| When you bring Jon up to me, it's heavy. | ||
| It hurts. | ||
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Fuck. | |
| Jon took him down. | ||
| Jon took him down. | ||
| If I had one of those men in black things where I'd erase people's memories, I'd erase everyone's Jon's fights. | ||
| Dude, you can't erase the best. | ||
| He's the best. | ||
| I know, but it's like... | ||
| You look at his performances, like, the fact that he was... | ||
| Think about how goddamn good DC is. | ||
| And think of John head-kicking him and stunning him and then putting him away. | ||
| And remember, in the first fight, John took him down. | ||
| Took him down! | ||
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First round! | |
| And there's a picture of DC literally like, oh shit, he's getting double-egged. | ||
| Yeah, well, he said after the fight, he really underestimated how strong he was. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| John's on many levels. | ||
| Many levels past what most people understand. | ||
| And you think about all the distractions, all the shit that guy's been through, and he still is able to perform at that level. | ||
| All the crazy shit. | ||
| Almost went to jail. | ||
| Fucking crashing into a pregnant lady's car. | ||
| All the fucking craziness, man. | ||
| Dick pills, cocaine. | ||
| All of that. | ||
| I'd be willing to bet if you gave Jon Jones literally like, hey bro, you're gonna have to fight in three days. | ||
| I would still put my money on Jon to beat anyone in the world. | ||
| That's how crazy this is. | ||
| He's something special, man. | ||
| Jon something special. | ||
| Depressed, whatever the hell he is, I'll take Jon. | ||
| He's something special. | ||
| And you know, you really see it in the fights where he's losing. | ||
| That's where you see how good he is. | ||
| But the Gustafson fight, where he barely trained and just showed up and did work. | ||
| When I say did work, you're talking about one of the greatest light heavyweight fights of all time, and it was a five-round war. | ||
| And John took over in the last half of the fight. | ||
| It's nuts, man. | ||
| And then how about the Vitor fight? | ||
| He gets his arm basically bent sideways. | ||
| And then submits Vitor Belfort. | ||
| And then submits him. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Gets out of the arm bar, which looks fucking horrific. | ||
| The arm bar, it's like you see how far it's bent, and you're just thinking about what his elbow must be doing right now, popping and cracking, and he still didn't tap. | ||
| And then he went on to coach the ultimate fighter, remember? | ||
| He couldn't use his arm right. | ||
| Like, one of the reasons why he wanted to coach was because he couldn't train for a while. | ||
| It's nuts, man. | ||
| Dude, he wouldn't tap. | ||
| He's such a monster. | ||
| He wouldn't tap. | ||
| He wouldn't tap. | ||
| He'd get his arm bent sideways. | ||
| I know a lot of guys do that. | ||
| Don't get me wrong. | ||
| But you've got to understand, a lot of guys that are as talented as John can't get through adversity. | ||
| It's one of the things that makes him special. | ||
| He thrives in it. | ||
| Well, yeah, when the chips are down, he's not giving up. | ||
| There's no giving up. | ||
| It's not happening. | ||
| He almost prefers it, though. | ||
| I think... | ||
| If you told John Hay on this comeback, we're in a 12-week camp, ease your back, you eat right every day, there's no hookers, there's no dick pills, I don't think it helps him. | ||
| I think he needs a little bit of chaos. | ||
| I've known other absolute ultimate winners who need a little bit of chaos. | ||
| When everything's going perfect, they go, whoa, whoa, whoa, we need to throw a wrench into it. | ||
| Well, maybe. | ||
| You might be right. | ||
| But I just gotta think that just the actual chaos of fighting, if treated correctly, could fill that void while he's doing these training camps. | ||
| I think he still hasn't reached his potential. | ||
| I think we may have seen it in a couple of fights where he had a great training camp and he didn't fuck around and he didn't party. | ||
| He didn't get caught. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, whatever it is. | ||
| We don't know. | ||
| I don't know what he's doing. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know if he goes through cycles of partying. | ||
| We know he's a wild motherfucker. | ||
| Self-proclaimed. | ||
| Self-proclaimed. | ||
| But you have to be... | ||
| Self-proclaimed, sir. | ||
| He says he's a wild motherfucker. | ||
| We know he's a wild motherfucker. | ||
| He's also that Wildness is one of the reasons why so fucking good you have to have the whole thing You got to have the whole thing. | ||
| He is an artist a lot of ways. | ||
| You got to have the Wildness you got to have the physical talent and you got to have the brain to understand Pathways to be creative to take chances to do things wild risks like flying knees on Shogun or spinning elbows on Stefan Bonner and this is all like when he's fairly new to It's striking, right? | ||
| You also got to be able to have that bit of craziness where you can only train for two weeks and then still go in there with a world-class athlete like a Ryan Bader or a Gus Finn and still have the confidence to go, I'll figure it out. | ||
| I know he's been training 12 weeks and he's one of the best in the world. | ||
| I got this. | ||
| That's a different switch that 99.9% of professional athletes don't have. | ||
| But imagine... | ||
| Full dedication. | ||
| Full, perfect diet. | ||
| Nah, why you gotta do that shit, man? | ||
| Why you gotta do that to the guy? | ||
| You think he wants that? | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I gotta let him free like Shamu. | ||
| Don't put him in the fucking container that people look at him. | ||
| Let him out in the ocean. | ||
| Shamu never got released. | ||
| He didn't know how to live in the wild, bro. | ||
| Well, all John knows I'd live in the wild. | ||
| Now you want to toss him into the fucking container and put him in a blazer and some khakis and no dick pills. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| Like, let him live, man. | ||
| Is it a crime to take pills and a little coke? | ||
| Come on! | ||
| The problem is not that. | ||
| The problem is, is he getting enough recovery so that he's training enough to reach his full potential? | ||
| And what is more important? | ||
| Is that more important? | ||
| Or is it nurturing the wild nature that lets you do crazy shit? | ||
| There's a balance. | ||
| He should be able to do both. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| He's not hurting anyone doing coke or doing dick pills. | ||
| But as you get older and your body gets more and more tired from war, right? | ||
| I mean, think the battles that guy's been in. | ||
| That's the nature of the beast, though. | ||
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Right. | |
| That's everyone. | ||
| But that's going to be a problem if he's not fully dedicated as time moves forward. | ||
| Even if you are fully dedicated like a Cain Velasquez, he has a cage around his spine now. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| Like, no matter what, it's going to take its toll on you. | ||
| If you perform at your best, you party until 3 in the morning and then show up training drunk, That's your path, man. | ||
| We shouldn't put these guys in boxes and force them to live like this and you have to do this and this is the way to do it. | ||
| John goes, that's not my way, man. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| It's not? | ||
| No, I'm actually undefeated. | ||
| Yeah, my only loss is to Mark Hamill from whooping his ass so bad. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| That's my only loss. | ||
| So you wanted me to do what? | ||
| I gotta act like the rest of these guys? | ||
| That's not fair, man. | ||
| It's bullshit. | ||
| That's an interesting perspective. | ||
| I like what you're saying. | ||
| Not everyone fits into these boxes that they want to put him in. | ||
| He's not hurting you in what he's doing. | ||
| See, the problem is you hear about someone partying too much and you always wonder, like, man, are they happy? | ||
| I know, they're trying to fill them. | ||
| Are they happy out there partying? | ||
| What are they doing? | ||
| You ask him while he's high, he's going to say, hell yeah, and the ball's deep in these dime pieces because he's the best fighter in the world. | ||
| Go ask Michael Irvin, who partied to... | ||
| Had some legendary parties. | ||
| The Dallas Cowboys. | ||
| They had a White House. | ||
| They called it the White House. | ||
| All three of them, the most famous players, chipped in on a mansion. | ||
| They called it the White House. | ||
| And every week, they would throw the most epic parties of all time. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| Some of the best teams of all time. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| Why do they check these boxes off? | ||
| Let them have a little fucking fun. | ||
| They're not like you 9-5ers. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| Yeah, look, you got a real point there. | ||
| The only argument against it would be if there was someone in his division that was like him, but was dedicated. | ||
| There's not. | ||
| There's not right now. | ||
| There's DC who puts up the best fight with him, but he's lost twice, second time emphatically. | ||
| And he's dedicated as fuck. | ||
| Dedicated as fuck, yeah. | ||
| They don't have to be the same to get in that cage, man. | ||
| It's not fair. | ||
| Yeah, it's interesting. | ||
| I know. | ||
| It's an interesting point of view, because, like, is he so talented that he can get away with not training as much as everybody else, or is it just that His ability to say fuck it and his ability to just not give a fuck and be wild is one of his talents. | ||
| That's a talent that most people don't have. | ||
| Along with obvious physical talents. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| He was born with these God-given talents and he was born with this cowboy attitude. | ||
| And for him, that works. | ||
| There's no mental coach. | ||
| He doesn't need any of that. | ||
| That's a good point. | ||
| Yeah, see, it's almost like he needs a Frazier, right? | ||
| Like, Ali needed a Frazier. | ||
| Sugar Ray needed Tommy Hearns and Roberta Durant. | ||
| They need each other. | ||
| They do. | ||
| They need each other. | ||
| To bring out the best. | ||
| I bet DC did bring out the best in him, and that's what he said, that DC brought out the best in him. | ||
| But he needs someone else now. | ||
| He needs someone else. | ||
| Maybe it's Stipe. | ||
| Yeah, because if he fights DC again, boy, you can make that fight for sure, especially if DC wins the heavyweight title, but John just KO'd him. | ||
| In the last fight. | ||
| It's pretty emphatic. | ||
| And I know the fighter in D.C. and the winner in D.C. wants that fight again, especially at heavyweight champ. | ||
| I get that. | ||
| But as a D.C. fan, I don't want to see that. | ||
| Some guys just have your number. | ||
| It's just not in the cards. | ||
| He's not John's equal. | ||
| John goes to another level when he fights him. | ||
| But maybe it's a Stipe. | ||
| Maybe it's Verdum. | ||
| I think Verdum, John's a tough fight for John. | ||
| Stipe's a beast of a fight for him. | ||
| I'd love to see John versus Francis. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Maybe there's one of these heavyweights out there who can control, you know, because John's not a knockout artist. | ||
| So he has to be in there for five rounds with these super heavyweights who hit like a Mack truck. | ||
| You know, John does get hit, so there's these variations. | ||
| Isn't that one of the craziest things about John is he's not really a knockout artist? | ||
| And we love him. | ||
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| Yeah, that's right. | ||
| And DC's impossible to fucking knock out. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's never been knocked out. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Maybe John's sitting on his punches and kicks better now. | ||
| But what's amazing is how terrifying he is without having ever done that. | ||
| Or done that, but not done it to the extent of some of the best guys in the division, like Jimmy Manawa or one of those guys. | ||
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| Vicious, vicious. | ||
| Like you don't have that Anthony Johnson power where you're like, oh, if this lands, it's over with John. | ||
| He's going to slice you up. | ||
| He's going to break your will. | ||
| Oh, you're getting wrestling? | ||
| He's going to wrestle you. | ||
| Oh, you're a Jiu-Jitsu black belt like Vitor? | ||
| He's going to submit you. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Ozdemir hits harder than him. | ||
| A lot of guys hit harder than him. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| Ryan Bader probably hits harder. | ||
| Look what he did to Ryan Bader. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, he's just a combination of things. | ||
| You know, fighting spirit, indomitable fighting spirit. | ||
| It's just that motherfucker does not give up. | ||
| Crazy wrestling talent, super strong, just knows how to win. | ||
| And has a checkered past, but when it comes down to it, he might not have a 12-week camp, might not have eight hours of rest, probably didn't eat right, might be balls deep in a whole bag of gummy bears. | ||
| But when he shows up, he's going to fuck you up. | ||
| Yeah, he's on another level. | ||
| It's almost like he needs someone on his level. | ||
| And there's a few of those guys out there. | ||
| Is there? | ||
| Yeah, outliers, man. | ||
| Outliers. | ||
| In the sport? | ||
| We might not see one yet. | ||
| It might be coming up. | ||
| It might be a guy that's on the way. | ||
| He might be emerging a year and a half from now. | ||
| It's just what happens with these guys. | ||
| I mean, we can never pretend that the talent that exists today is the only talent that we're going to see in a year from now. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| And I think those guys, they're gonna be better, man. | ||
| Everybody's gonna be better. | ||
| They're all watching Khabib. | ||
| They're all watching Tony. | ||
| They're all watching Barboza. | ||
| They're watching Ben Askren. | ||
| They're watching all these people. | ||
| Everybody's just getting better. | ||
| They're just getting better. | ||
| But notice, every guy you mention besides Tony is a specialist who's great at one thing. | ||
| Every guy you just mentioned. | ||
| There's something to be said for a specialist, man. | ||
| There's something to be said for a person who's like a Gokhan Saki. | ||
| You just don't want to fucking stand up with him. | ||
| It's just too high level. | ||
| I'd watch him and John. | ||
| John would take him down. | ||
| He's not ready for John. | ||
| I'll pay to watch that guy fight every year. | ||
| I'll pay to watch him fight anyone in the world. | ||
| He got hurt, for Christ's sake. | ||
| But if Gokhan can get his wrestling skills and continue to hone them, he's a guy like a... | ||
| True, but he's a guy like a Krokop who's so explosive and powerful that if you just get him some takedown defense, it's going to be fucking hard with the cage to take that guy down. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know? | ||
| I mean, Krokop became, like, very short, very quickly, he went from being a guy who fought Vandalay Silva in a special rules match, remember? | ||
| Beats him standing up, and then he had some deal where he can only go to the ground for, like, 30 seconds or something like that. | ||
| Some Japanese weird shit, yes. | ||
| By the time they fight the second time, he destroys him. | ||
| I mean destroys him. | ||
| Just beat him senseless and then head kicked him. | ||
| He fully emerged into that wrestling world. | ||
| And he also, you know, Verdum, before he was even fighting, was his jiu-jitsu coach. | ||
| Do you know that? | ||
| So Verdum was hoping... | ||
| So was Dean Lister. | ||
| Yeah, so he brought all these guys in so he could learn the ground. | ||
| He's also younger than Gokhan at the time. | ||
| So when I see guys like... | ||
| And I'm not hating on people. | ||
| Like, oh, you hate on Francis. | ||
| No, I don't hate him. | ||
| What happens is when you're... | ||
| He's still ranked number one in the world. | ||
| When you're Francis, you're ranked number one in the world. | ||
| There's no gimme fights. | ||
| There's no warm-up. | ||
| The UFC can't do it. | ||
| So you're at this level where you don't really have time to make up for it. | ||
| You can't take three years off at the age of... | ||
| 34 and learn how to wrestle. | ||
| You don't have that time. | ||
| You just don't have that time, man. | ||
| It's a bummer. | ||
| It's like getting to the NFL, playing for the Patriots, and can only go to the left with routes. | ||
| And going, ah, I'll try and learn to the right. | ||
| Like, what are you talking about, man? | ||
| You can't go both fucking ways. | ||
| Like, no, but I'll learn. | ||
| Like, get the fuck out of here. | ||
| We got someone to do it, man. | ||
| You know? | ||
| It's a weird reference. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| No, I know what you're saying. | ||
| It's fucking weird. | ||
| Jamie might have got it. | ||
| I know. | ||
| I know what you're saying. | ||
| I kind of get it. | ||
| That high of a level. | ||
| Yeah, I totally understand. | ||
| But seeing as this guy, five years ago, couldn't do anything, right? | ||
| Five years ago, he just gets into MMA. Five years later, he's... | ||
| Speaking about Francis. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Five years. | ||
| In five years, he becomes a number one heavyweight contender, a terrifying... | ||
| Betting favorite over the champion who, if he wins, breaks the record of the most ever successful title defenses in UFC history. | ||
| So even though he's won two title fights in a row against world-class competition... | ||
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Still underdog. | |
| Still underdog. | ||
| Fuck you, America. | ||
| Five years in. | ||
| So just imagine... | ||
| If this guy has the kind of appetite for learning and continuing to grow that he showed there, think about GSP. GSP had zero high school wrestling, zero college wrestling, started picking up quick, was training with Russian nationals up in Montreal, did a lot of technical work, learned the basics of it, and as the kind of athlete that GSP is, he just started implementing it, started getting good at it. | ||
| Francis would have to do something like that. | ||
| Literally have to. | ||
| Or, you know, at the heavyweight division, maybe he doesn't and he's just that guy, you know, that he knocks people out and that's what he wants. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Oh, he wants to be the best, man. | ||
| But I think that he can be. | ||
| But there's going to be some guys that are going to be able to take him down. | ||
| When you say some guys... | ||
| do it for the next 10 years. | ||
| He's always going to be able to get taken down. | ||
| There's a certain level where even if you hire freaking Ben Askin as your coach, he can't teach you enough to make up for those gaps against a DC, against a Cain Velasquez. | ||
| Not against DC. | ||
| Even against a Blades, a Curtis Blades, who's a national champion. | ||
| Curtis Blades is also a big guy. | ||
| Curtis Blaze is a big athlete. | ||
| Powerful. | ||
| Very powerful athlete and really good wrestler. | ||
| So he's not the same level as Daniel Cormier, but he's a much bigger man. | ||
| Those shots that he took against Hunt, holy fuck, dude. | ||
| I was going like this. | ||
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I was flinching. | |
| He's ready to drop. | ||
| I'm like, he's going to drop. | ||
| I'm like, God damn, he didn't drop. | ||
| And then he took him down. | ||
| I was like, wow. | ||
| I texted his corner man, Cody Donald, my best friend. | ||
| I'm like, bro, if you tell him to throw his right hand again, I'm going to fucking bust. | ||
| He should literally double jab and get into the legs. | ||
| He needs to quit throwing that slow right hand because Mark Hunt's such a high-level striker. | ||
| He sees it coming from a mile away. | ||
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| It's so amateur. | ||
| So him and Francis, if you could put those together, you have the best heavyweight of all time. | ||
| You have one guy who's fucking phenomenal at striking. | ||
| I know you got phenomenal at wrestling. | ||
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Can't wrestle, can't strike. | |
| You put them together and you got this fucking transformer ninja turtle who just fucking does work. | ||
| Curtis can strike, he just can't strike. | ||
| At the same level that Marcon has, but what he can take is a fucking tremendous punch. | ||
| Which is a huge, huge... | ||
| For now, for as long as it lasts, right? | ||
| And will it last against a guy like Francis in the second fight? | ||
| I'll tell you this, I'd rather be, if I had to pick, I love both guys, I'd rather be in Curtis Blade's shoes than Francis, I will say that. | ||
| Where I have a grappling background, because what happens if I'm a striker, Francis, I can't control if you want to take me down. | ||
| Francis can control, I'm sorry, Curtis can control whether the fight goes to the ground or not. | ||
| He dictates where the fight goes. | ||
| Francis does not. | ||
| After the first round. | ||
| Francis does not. | ||
| After the first round. | ||
| The only thing that could change, now here's the thing. | ||
| Is Francis putting on any weight due to strength training, or is he just that big? | ||
| He used to fight at 205, you know that? | ||
| He did? | ||
| He fought at 205 before? | ||
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When? | |
| When he was like 13. No, I don't know. | ||
| Look it up, Jamie. | ||
| I'm pretty sure he used to fight at 205. How is that even possible? | ||
| I have no idea. | ||
| He's only been fighting for five years. | ||
| I'm pretty sure he's fighting at 205. Am I batshit crazy here? | ||
| 205 what? | ||
| Yeah, 205 in African stones, which is really 265. Do you know what a stone is? | ||
| Like English, proper English stone. | ||
| It's so weird. | ||
| What is it? | ||
| I think it's like, is it 13? | ||
| 14. 12. 12? | ||
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I think it's 12. I'm half English, I should know this. | |
| How come you don't know that, but we know who your president is? | ||
| 14. Good call, sir. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Let's not call things in stones, though. | ||
| It could never be 13. That's an unlucky number. | ||
| They would never use 13. That's why I said 12. That's good. | ||
| I was in a hotel the other day. | ||
| It didn't have a 13th floor. | ||
| Most of them don't. | ||
| Most of them don't. | ||
| Also grow up. | ||
| We really believe in it. | ||
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It's so stupid. | |
| It's dangerous. | ||
| It's so stupid. | ||
| They're coddling to people so bad. | ||
| Do you take Friday the 13th off, for God's sakes? | ||
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Oh, I take a while, Todd. | |
| It's a dangerous day. | ||
| God. | ||
| It's the day of the devil. | ||
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Hey. | |
| No 13th floor. | ||
| So weird, man. | ||
| People are super goofy with shit like that. | ||
| Some people get real goofy. | ||
| Strange, man. | ||
| Dude, how about your boy Tyson Pedro? | ||
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Dude. | |
| It's fucking good. | ||
| Tyson, you have my seat on JRE, by the way, man. | ||
| Anytime I'm here, you have my seat. | ||
| Come on down, dude. | ||
| Yeah, come on down. | ||
| Come on down. | ||
| Dude, his show and mine. | ||
| I'm a huge fucking fan. | ||
| He's a bad motherfucker, and he's a fun guy, too. | ||
| Bad motherfucker. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| All of Australians just put on a show. | ||
| It's an emerging hotspot. | ||
| Well, it's been a hotspot for a long time. | ||
| But Australia... | ||
| It's been a hotspot, yeah. | ||
| Like John Wayne Parr from Muay Thai, obviously Ray Sefo from New Zealand, and Mark Hunt, and a few other guys too. | ||
| You've got Robert Whittaker, you're a champion. | ||
| Yeah, Robert Whittaker, Australian. | ||
| Yeah, that whole part of the world. | ||
| Tyson Pedro, Monster, and then the heavyweight, the big heavyweight, forget his name, he fought in Monster. | ||
| Dan Hangman from New Zealand. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| They got a lot of monsters. | ||
| It's killers. | ||
| You got killers there. | ||
| Have you done shows in Australia? | ||
| Yeah, I had a good time, man. | ||
| Such a great place to do. | ||
| I did Melbourne. | ||
| What's up there? | ||
| UFC weigh-ins for Rangano. | ||
| Okay, so he started at 250. Well, no, I'm saying... | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| But that's the best I could find. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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I'm most positive someone told me he spent at 205. How is that possible? | |
| Because that would mean he put on 50 pounds in, like, two years? | ||
| Is that possible? | ||
| Uh-oh. | ||
| Skeptical face. | ||
| I'm not saying anything. | ||
| What are you saying? | ||
| I'm saying when he was 12, he fought at 205. Are you not saying anything you're saying? | ||
| When he was 8, he fought at 205. When he was 8, he fought at 185. I know what the fuck you're saying, dude. | ||
| No, I promise you I'm not saying that. | ||
| I would never do that to that man. | ||
| No, what the fuck you're saying. | ||
| Who said that he thought he was like 40 years old? | ||
| He was lying about his age. | ||
| Somebody said that. | ||
| Someone did say that to us. | ||
| Is that Derek? | ||
| It's probably Derek Lewis because he's so funny. | ||
| No, Derek didn't say that, did he? | ||
| Did he? | ||
| No. | ||
| Derek's fighting this weekend. | ||
| Who's he fighting? | ||
| He's fighting that Russian cat. | ||
| He's a bad motherfucker. | ||
| God, I want Derek to win. | ||
| It's a good fight. | ||
| He's got a real shot. | ||
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Then give Derek Francis. | |
| Derek Francis. | ||
| Black on black crime. | ||
| What's up, Black Panther? | ||
| Sick fight. | ||
| Derek's a beast, man. | ||
| I like watching him fight. | ||
| He was talking about retiring. | ||
| Okay, yeah. | ||
| Marcin Tibura. | ||
| Yeah, why did he want to retire? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Goddamn, they're still pushing Sage Northcote on us, huh? | ||
| He's learning and growing. | ||
| Kids only 18 years old. | ||
| Why are you mad about Sage Northcote? | ||
| I'm not mad at his haircut. | ||
| I'm not mad at Sage. | ||
| I think he's a phenomenal athlete. | ||
| Do you know I like pretty boys? | ||
| No, I mean, he's a pretty dude. | ||
| Is that what it is? | ||
| He's a twink is what we call him. | ||
| So if he was Mexican, would you be cool with him fighting? | ||
| No. | ||
| A Mexican karate guy? | ||
| They're just forcing him on me. | ||
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You know what I'm saying? | |
| Like, alright, alright, I'm in, man. | ||
| I would love to see him and see him punk, I gotta be honest. | ||
| I mean, he's the first fight on the main card. | ||
| Is that really forcing him on you? | ||
| No, I get it. | ||
| It's like the Paige Van Zandt stuff. | ||
| We get it. | ||
| They're good looking. | ||
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Cute? | |
| Yeah, they're cuties. | ||
| They're cuties. | ||
| Hey, all honesty. | ||
| It's just me and you listening. | ||
| No one's listening. | ||
| You and CM Punk, if you fought, how fast would you beat him? | ||
| I'm not even asking if you would beat him because I'm not going to insult you. | ||
| How fast would you? | ||
| Look at me. | ||
| We'll kick his face off. | ||
| Well, it would certainly be quicker than how badly or how quickly I would fail the drug test. | ||
| It would never take place. | ||
| The way I described it, that drug test, I would piss in the cup, they would put it in the machine, and it would go off like... | ||
| You ever that Bugs Bunny cartoon when they fucking hit the hammer on the toy, and the thing slides up and it hits the bell, the bell goes flying through the air? | ||
| That's what would happen. | ||
| You would take the piss test, they'd go, get out. | ||
| They'd be like, he's on everything. | ||
| The last time we saw this was Vitor Belfort. | ||
| Get the fuck out. | ||
| And he's high right now. | ||
| Bro, let's say Dana gives you that weird Brock Lesnar exemption. | ||
| Yeah, not interested. | ||
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No! | |
| I'm saying, man! | ||
| Yeah, I'm not interested. | ||
| I wish the guy well, but... | ||
| Me too, I wish him well. | ||
| I actually like him as a person. | ||
| What he's doing, I would have never recommended. | ||
| I would never recommend you climbing Mount Everest without a guide. | ||
| I would never recommend you even making an attempt at running a marathon if you've never run a step. | ||
| And I know that he's had some training. | ||
| I know he's had some training. | ||
| But to jump right in to fight in the UFC against a kid like Mickey Gall who's a fucking killer. | ||
| He's really good on the ground. | ||
| Way better than you on the ground. | ||
| The idea that someone would think that that's a good idea. | ||
| I know it's probably a shit ton of money they gave him, and that's all well and good. | ||
| Short-sighted. | ||
| But if you wanted to do it right, this is what you say. | ||
| You say, listen, dude, we've got to get you an amateur fight against a guy who's, well, he might not be. | ||
| It depends on what he's trying to do. | ||
| But if you wanted to get an amateur fight against someone who is of similar skill level and similar experience level, so you feel what it's like to be going after it. | ||
| Jeff Mayweather on Floyd Mayweather's MMA move, he might actually whoop CM Punk's ass first. | ||
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Oh! | |
| Floyd or CM Punk? | ||
| I will sell the shit out of that fight. | ||
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I will be on Showtime going, good to see you, Joe. | |
| This is an amazing fight for the fans. | ||
| We got one hell of a fight coming up. | ||
| My heart. | ||
| Be still, my heart. | ||
| They might do that. | ||
| They might do it. | ||
| Oh my god, my heart. | ||
| And you know I'm going to be involved. | ||
| My heart. | ||
| I can't take it. | ||
| My heart is flying out of my chest. | ||
| If I saw Floyd Mayweather across from CM Punk, I'd be like, this is not real life! | ||
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Yes. | |
| Dude, that's the fight, right? | ||
| Well, listen. | ||
| We know that Floyd can't fight Conor in an MMA fight. | ||
| I mean, he can. | ||
| Let's take that out of the equation. | ||
| He can, but the odds of Conor losing are so astronomically small. | ||
| Minus 100,000 favorite. | ||
| Like, whatever the fuck Vegas puts on it, that's cute. | ||
| I don't care if it's 10 to 1, 100 to 1. I don't think they're going to do that. | ||
| No, they're like, we don't have odds for this. | ||
| You guys can't make money off this. | ||
| Fuck you. | ||
| I bet it's going to be like 900 to 1. It's going to be something ridiculous. | ||
| Some Buster Douglas madness. | ||
| Buster Douglas is only like 42. It's crazy. | ||
| This is going to be insane. | ||
| If they're smart. | ||
| Because Conor's going to kick his legs out. | ||
| He's not even going to get a chance to come close enough. | ||
| He can do whatever he wants. | ||
| Conor's going to kick his fucking legs out. | ||
| He doesn't have any chance. | ||
| And then if Conor decides to shoot in and clinch, he's going to clinch and he's going to ragdoll him. | ||
| Well, he could jump to half guard and literally name a submission. | ||
| Nine! | ||
| That's a slap in Conor's face. | ||
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Nine! | |
| Minus 900. Who the fuck made those? | ||
| Oh, this is nonsense. | ||
| No, that's a joke. | ||
| These are real odds? | ||
| At Bovada? | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| These people are crazy. | ||
| Can I put my life savings on that? | ||
| That's the easiest money of all time. | ||
| They're off by a factor of 10. Listen, if this fight takes place, Floyd doesn't have a chance. | ||
| What about Floyd CM Punk, though? | ||
| Now you've got a fight on your hands. | ||
| Floyd's got a real chance. | ||
| Yeah, Floyd KO's him. | ||
| Yeah, Floyd's got a real chance. | ||
| Unless CM Punk feels out a way. | ||
| Well, also, CM Punk way bigger. | ||
| Okay, let's be honest about that. | ||
| CM Punk is a guy who is wrestling probably like 190 pounds, cut weight to get to 170 to fight in the UFC. You saw that, though, son. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, he's not on anything. | ||
| I don't think he's on anything. | ||
| WWE's pretty loosey-goot. | ||
| WWE is like it. | ||
| Right, but I'm pretty sure he's, at least according to everybody that I've talked to and everything I've heard about him, he's a real straight edge. | ||
| No drinking, no drugs, no steroids. | ||
| Oh, 100%. | ||
| I'm not saying he is. | ||
| And he looks like it. | ||
| He looks like he is. | ||
| Right now, he is clean as they come. | ||
| Right, but I think he always was. | ||
| I really do. | ||
| And I don't think he's lying. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That said... | ||
| Floyd Mayweather is the fucking greatest boxer maybe of all time. | ||
| At least on paper he is. | ||
| I mean, with his accomplishments through multiple weight classes, undefeated, 50-0. | ||
| I don't care if the last fight was Conor McGregor. | ||
| He's still 50-0. | ||
| That's fucking insane. | ||
| Insane. | ||
| Yeah, dude, he's on another level of everybody who's on another level. | ||
| What this fight is like, it's like you and your buddies at a bar and Floyd walks in and your buddy goes, who has no background ever, maybe did some performance arts in high school, and you look at him and go, can you beat up Floyd Mayweather? | ||
| And then you guys find out, you can get punched in the fucking face very fast and multiple times. | ||
| The question is, can Floyd fight the same way he fights with big gloves, with MMA gloves? | ||
| The reason why I say this is because Floyd's broken his hand multiple times. | ||
| He's had some serious surgeries on his hands. | ||
| Now maybe they've cured it, and maybe it's fine, but we all know that for the longest time, Floyd preferred like a puffier glove when he fought. | ||
| Yeah, a bigger glove protection. | ||
| But he hasn't had hand problems in a while, so maybe he did fix it, and his hands looked fucking great against Conor. | ||
| How many pay-per-views does CM Punk Floyd do? | ||
| And where do we stop? | ||
| This is where you gotta come in and cut this shit out. | ||
| Because I heard Morgan Freeman throws a mean sidekick. | ||
| He could sell pay-per-views. | ||
| Do we fucking sign him up? | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| Do you know what I'm saying? | ||
| George Clooney? | ||
| No, Larry King. | ||
| Morgan Freeman vs. | ||
| Larry King. | ||
| To the death. | ||
| They're going to die no matter what. | ||
| Someone's dying. | ||
| Someone is dying before they make the change. | ||
| Once they start swinging, we might lose them both. | ||
| Good God, man. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| It's crazy we're even talking about it. | ||
| It's crazy there's odds of Conor vs. | ||
| Floyd in a mixed martial arts match. | ||
| And you know what else is crazy? | ||
| Floyd's actually considering it. | ||
| Floyd's talking to Espinosa at Showtime about an MMA fight. | ||
| I think he's going to make a half a billion dollars. | ||
| Me too. | ||
| I'd fight anyone on this planet. | ||
| I'd fight Francis Khabib in the same night for half a billion dollars. | ||
| Half a billion. | ||
| It's really possible. | ||
| I mean, they really might rake it in with that fight. | ||
| Floyd might be willing to do it. | ||
| Imagine if they made a deal to do two. | ||
| He goes, alright, I'll tell you one more MMA. Well, I'll do one MMA and one more boxing. | ||
| God, just... | ||
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Woo! | |
| And you know there's a market for it. | ||
| I guess I'll fuck him up again! | ||
| And you know there's a market for it. | ||
| Dude, that would be crazy money. | ||
| And the actual MMA heads are turning over in their graves. | ||
| They fucking hate this. | ||
| I think you could sell it. | ||
| I think if Conor decided to give, like, five, six months for a training camp, Conor McGregor in talks over a stunning $500 million rematch with Floyd Mayweather. | ||
| Ha ha ha! | ||
| Ah! | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| I can't wait. | ||
| Get your money, man. | ||
| I can't wait. | ||
| Get your fucking money. | ||
| I cannot wait. | ||
| But I would say CM Punk, because this is what happens. | ||
| CM Punk over Floyd? | ||
| CM Punk would have to figure out how to get the takedown. | ||
| If they could agree to me at like 160, something like that, maybe CM Punk would make 160. Dude, if I'm CM Punk, I tell Duke Rufus, take this one out, and I army crawl over to Floyd, because he can't kick him in the face, and I just get ahold of his leg. | ||
| It's a complete shit show. | ||
| And I fucking just sweep his knee, that little tiny scrawny ankles out, and I crawl on top mount, and they stop the fight. | ||
| What if Floyd Mayweather knows karate? | ||
| We'll kick his head off? | ||
| Seriously, what if we've never seen it before, he's been hiding it behind closed doors, and then he comes out sideways and starts throwing sidekicks, and you're like, no! | ||
| And C.Punk goes, fuck! | ||
| Can you imagine if Floyd starts throwing perfect Muay Thai leg kicks? | ||
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Swap! | |
| This is like me and my buddy in sixth grade talking about crazy fucking mutants fighting in Street Fighter. | ||
| But let me ask you this, in all honesty. | ||
| You and I are grown men. | ||
| If you are a world championship boxer, you're gonna be exposed to a certain amount of kickboxers. | ||
| Wouldn't you say, hey man, show me how to do that? | ||
| How do I do that? | ||
| And what part of the leg you hit? | ||
| Messing around, yeah. | ||
| Like right here? | ||
| Oh shit, that hurts! | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Oh shit, now show me how to do it. | ||
| Show him how to do it on the back. | ||
| I kinda like Floyd Mayweather pick up kicks like that. | ||
| Mastermind. | ||
| The way that he can punch. | ||
| One of the smartest people I've ever been around. | ||
| The way he learns how to dig his body into things, he just transfer that to his legs. | ||
| Brilliant. | ||
| And he would start snapping front kicks on people, roundhouse kicks. | ||
| Next thing you know, you can't get close enough. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| This sounds like the movie of Kickboxer. | ||
| Like CM Punk's warming up in his locker room. | ||
| They hear this... | ||
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And he goes over. | |
| It's Floyd just on the thing. | ||
| Kicking like Pete Spratt. | ||
| And CM Punk's going, what the fuck? | ||
| No one told me this. | ||
| Dude, remember Pete Spratt? | ||
| Pete Spratt had some vicious kicks. | ||
| He's a monster, man. | ||
| God, I forgot about Pete. | ||
| He's a monster for a long time. | ||
| He would hurt your fucking legs, man. | ||
| Pete Sprout's another dude, like when you watch him kick the pads, he'd be like, yikes. | ||
| Yes, there's certain guys. | ||
| Yikes. | ||
| No one that I've ever seen kick anything other than a person may be more terrified than watching Pedro Hizzo kick a heavy bag one day. | ||
| Well, that's fucking Rennie Couture about it. | ||
| Dude, I'm telling you, I've seen a lot of powerful guys kick a heavy bag. | ||
| It sounds different. | ||
| Like, I've seen Maurice Smith kick the fucking heavy bag, dude. | ||
| Maurice Smith's another one. | ||
| Terrifying. | ||
| Boom! | ||
| Powerful kicks. | ||
| Powerful kicks. | ||
| He showed me a lot of shit. | ||
| He, like, corrected a lot of things. | ||
| I had, like, a Taekwondo style of throwing my kicks, and he was showing me a bunch of different ways that he delivers things, dude, and he would kick my bag. | ||
| Boom! | ||
| Fuck your bag up. | ||
| Pedro Hizzo hits twice as hard. | ||
| Is there anyone like that today who kicks this hard? | ||
| Dude, Pedro Hizzo would kick the bag at Beverly Hills Jiu-Jitsu and I would just sit there like Macaulay Culkin. | ||
| He hits so hard, dude! | ||
| Is there anyone like that that kicks today? | ||
| Not really. | ||
| There's not a lot of heavyweights who kick. | ||
| Well, at that level, Overeem. | ||
| Name a heavyweight who kicks like that. | ||
| Overeem can kick like that. | ||
| Not anymore, really, though. | ||
| Well, he's having a hard time taking the shots that he used to take. | ||
| But when he fought Brett Rogers in Strikeforce, that was one of the first things he did, is crack Brett Rogers in the leg. | ||
| When he fought Brock Lesnar. | ||
| I mean, that's when he was at his best. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| When he body kicked Brock Lesnar. | ||
| Yeah, dude, he's just been through the ringer, man. | ||
| You gotta think of him. | ||
| He's still doing it, man. | ||
| He's still doing it? | ||
| He's still like, good luck beating that dude. | ||
| He's a nightmare for, you look at the division. | ||
| He has an amazing ability to, oh, this is horrible. | ||
| He kicks this dude, this poor dude, oh no, he's gonna kick his leg. | ||
| Oh, he made him get rid of the bag? | ||
| No, don't do it. | ||
| Don't do it. | ||
| Don't let him do it, man. | ||
| Tell me he breaks his leg. | ||
| Oh, he probably would. | ||
| Forrest Griffin broke a dude's leg doing this. | ||
| Watch this. | ||
| He just does this. | ||
| Just touches it. | ||
| That dude got a terrible charlie horse from him just touching him. | ||
| See if you can find a video of Pedro Hizzo kicks the heavy bag. | ||
| It's got to be a video. | ||
| That's it? | ||
| You can kick him. | ||
| Google the Randy Couture fight. | ||
| Randy has a permanent death. | ||
| Oh, here it is. | ||
| This guy's going to hold the pad. | ||
| Pedro's jacked. | ||
| Watch this shit. | ||
| The fucking power. | ||
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| Shit! | ||
| That guy flew through the air and landed on his back. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Boom! | ||
| That guy said, I'm doing it for the grams, son. | ||
| Dude, come on. | ||
| God, he needed views so bad. | ||
| He took a leg kick. | ||
| I'm telling you, man. | ||
| I've never seen anybody kick a bag harder. | ||
| No, I ain't doing that. | ||
| When I saw him thudding into that bag, I was just imagining my whole body shutting down. | ||
| Like, one of those leg kicks. | ||
| Your whole body would just go... | ||
| That ain't for you. | ||
| That ain't for you. | ||
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Damn it! | |
| On a smaller scale, I guess maybe Barboza. | ||
| Barboza is an accumulation guy. | ||
| He definitely could knock you out with one shot. | ||
| He has great kicks, though. | ||
| He's got more dexterity, for sure. | ||
| He can do more different things. | ||
| Wheel kicks. | ||
| And his switch kick is just fucking insane. | ||
| What Pedro did harder than anybody was leg kicks. | ||
| Barboza is the only guy that's ever stopped someone twice. | ||
| He stopped two different guys. | ||
| Monster, man. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| How about, I would love to see, and it's starting to come out now, Dos Anjos-Woodley. | ||
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Dude. | |
| That's the fight. | ||
| I know Woodley wants a super fight and probably deserves it. | ||
| What the fuck is going on with Woodley and Dana White? | ||
| I don't know, call your brother. | ||
| Calling each other liars and some craziness. | ||
| I thought the, I thought... | ||
| I was talking to Woodley and I thought I was going to get the Diaz fight, which is a good fight. | ||
| It's a great fight. | ||
| Yeah, but here's the deal. | ||
| It doesn't make sense. | ||
| You know, numerically, rankings, but fuck rankings these days. | ||
| They don't really count. | ||
| You look who votes for him. | ||
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Right. | |
| It doesn't really count. | ||
| Belts don't matter. | ||
| So it's all about super fights these days, which is unfortunate. | ||
| For Woodley, though, that's why he wants the super fight. | ||
| Well, why wouldn't you? | ||
| You'd have to be crazy to not. | ||
| That's how you make money. | ||
| That's why you make money. | ||
| That's why you guys want it. | ||
| And that's a big fight. | ||
| You have Nate Diaz fighting him. | ||
| And here's the thing. | ||
| Both guys, whether it's Nate Diaz or Dos Anjos, are going to provide the kind of fight that I think Tyron needs. | ||
| Me too. | ||
| Because I think Tyron fought two super difficult guys. | ||
| Fought Damian Maia, which you cannot take to the ground. | ||
| And then he fought Wonderboy Thompson, who's super awkward. | ||
| Two fights where there wasn't the kind of action that everybody wanted, but really the only way to successfully fight Wonderboy. | ||
| Yeah, you can't hate on Woodley. | ||
| But Woodley gets a bad rap, and you look at his track record, how many times he fought last year and defended the title, and his finishes, and the quickest knockout in the division. | ||
| He's a monster, but he gets this hate because you're only as good as your last fight. | ||
| So you have the Maya fight, which house are you going to fight, Maya, man? | ||
| And again, the Thompson fights. | ||
| He tore his shoulder early in the fight. | ||
| But I agree, Dos Santos ain't going to bring it, which is exactly what Woodley needs, man. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| Dos Anjos is a dangerous fight for anybody. | ||
| If I'm Woodley, I take that fight because you need it. | ||
| If you don't fight, you're out of the public eye. | ||
| Especially the fight fans. | ||
| You can be in all the movies you want. | ||
| You can do that TMZ show. | ||
| That's not moving the needle, man. | ||
| You gotta fight. | ||
| But for Dos Anjos, it's a super dangerous fight because he's gotta get inside that danger zone where Tyron could put anybody to sleep. | ||
| You gotta think, Tyron is the only guy out of all... | ||
| I mean, Matt Brown beat the shit out of Wonderboy, but that was early in Wonderboy's career. | ||
| And also, the word was that Wonderboy came into that fight overtrained. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| He was working on his wrestling, working on his take-down defense. | ||
| He was flat going into the fight. | ||
| And Matt Brown's just a fucking animal, right? | ||
| Other than that, no one else has really hurt him except for Tyron. | ||
| And in both of those fights, you've got to think, Wonderboy's the big-time striker and one of the best kickboxers to ever fight in MMA, especially that American karate style, sideways style. | ||
| One of the best strikers ever in the UFC. Phenomenal. | ||
| There's already been he might be the best, but yeah. | ||
| Phenomenal. | ||
| Top of the food chain. | ||
| Top three. | ||
| Woodley hurts him. | ||
| Blast him in the face. | ||
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Twice. | |
| Both fights. | ||
| Both fights, Woodley's the one who almost wins by stoppage. | ||
| You've got to respect that. | ||
| That's incredible that he was able to catch him. | ||
| It's incredible that he has the kind of power that even the fourth round, he could still put a fucking hurting on him and almost put him away. | ||
| Woodley's a monster. | ||
| And also remember, Wonderboy beat, ready, Robert Whitaker. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Whitaker's last loss. | ||
| Yep, KO'd him. | ||
| But that was also Whitaker at 170. He was having a really hard time making that win. | ||
| I'm just saying, like, that's still fucking... | ||
| I think that was what prompted him to move up, or one of the fights. | ||
| One of them. | ||
| He's like, eh, maybe not. | ||
| But either way, for, I think, Dos Anjos, I remember Dos Anjos striking out there at Kings with Verdum and those boys, and Rafael Cadero. | ||
| I'm going to fucking strike. | ||
| At 70, he's a nightmare. | ||
| And also, he can grapple, man. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Very dangerous on the ground. | ||
| Wrestling is dangerous to play with them. | ||
| Yeah, what he did with Neil Magny, too. | ||
| It's like, Jesus Christ. | ||
| Just chews him up. | ||
| Just chewed him up, man. | ||
| He's a fucking animal. | ||
| It's a good fight for Woodley. | ||
| I wanted to get the DS fight for him personally and get paid, and it's a great matchup for him, but that Dos Angeles fight's a motherfucker. | ||
| Here's what I think. | ||
| I think Woodley in any other situation other than that lineup of Damian Maia and two Wonderboy fights. | ||
| Take those fights out of the equation. | ||
| You got Robbie Lawler who he starches by knockout. | ||
| You got Josh Koscheck who he puts into another dimension. | ||
| You have all these people he's smashing. | ||
| The Jay Heron fight. | ||
| I mean you're looking at a smasher. | ||
| He smashes people. | ||
| So you give him a couple other fights of people that Are forced to stand with him. | ||
| I know. | ||
| People that are in that division, if there was a different lineup of contenders, he would have gone through these fights, and if he had emerged victorious like he did, it would have been an amazing face of the UFC. Yeah, amazing results, right? | ||
| And he's great on TV, he's a great talker, he's smooth, he's articulate. | ||
| Great story, bought his mom a house. | ||
| Yeah, and he's very even. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| He doesn't have crazy ups and downs when he talks, he's very easy to listen to. | ||
| I mean, he's got a tremendous belief in himself, but every champion does. | ||
| They have to. | ||
| So all he needed was the right kind of matchups. | ||
| I know those three fights kind of fucked him. | ||
| Both of these fights we're talking about are that right kind of matchup. | ||
| They're both the right kind of matchup. | ||
| Nate Diaz is the right kind of matchup. | ||
| Nate is going to fucking bring it. | ||
| That's going to be a crazy fight. | ||
| And for sure, Dos Anjos is the crazy matchup at 170. And when you remember what Dos Anjos did to Nate at 155, you got to go, you got to give the shot to Dos Anjos. | ||
| Have to. | ||
| Especially after Dos Anjos just his last big win, man. | ||
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Unless... | |
| He agrees to step aside for a little piece. | ||
| Who? | ||
| Maybe he agrees to step aside. | ||
| For who? | ||
| For Nate. | ||
| Listen, man, I know you guys gotta get that money. | ||
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Just give me a taste. | |
| I'll sit back. | ||
| Just give me 50. 150. Give me 150. 150 to do nothing. | ||
| But did you hear Rashad Evans? | ||
| He thinks Woodley's making a mistake and you know Rashad had the same problem where he was arguing with Dana not focusing on his career. | ||
| Rashad goes, it'll fuck you up man. | ||
| You put all this energy into Dana and the business side and you're not taking care of the fight business. | ||
| That fight business I don't understand so I don't want to judge but I don't You don't want to get involved with that. | ||
| Unless, and I say this and it's frustrating, but unless you're a Conor McGregor type of draw, there's not a lot to argue with, man. | ||
| Dana's always going to come out on top. | ||
| And it's not a knock on Dana. | ||
| If I'm Dana, I don't know if I run any other way. | ||
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Right. | |
| It's like my show or the highway, my man. | ||
| What are you going to do? | ||
| That's the way you run a big, giant-ass business like that. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| You're a dictator. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There's another way to do it. | ||
| Well, I mean, maybe there's another way to do it, but it hasn't been done before. | ||
| It's possible. | ||
| I don't have any experience in it. | ||
| I don't want to talk about shit that I don't have any experience in. | ||
| I like talking about shit I don't know about. | ||
| I know there's a lot of nightmares, scenarios that they've encountered on both sides. | ||
| But I think that I just would never want to have arguments with the fighters. | ||
| I feel like, especially calling each other liars and shit, it just seems crazy to me. | ||
| It seems crazy for both people. | ||
| I'd be like, It doesn't help anyone. | ||
| No. | ||
| Because if you're Dana, you go, he's a fucking liar. | ||
| I don't know what he's talking about. | ||
| He's a boring fighter. | ||
| Well, he makes you money. | ||
| You're diminishing your product. | ||
| And if you're Woodley, you go, you're a fucking liar. | ||
| You told me I was going to donate Diaz. | ||
| But that's part of his appeal. | ||
| Now Dana goes, all right, well, now I don't want to look like a complete dick and liar, so I'm not giving you that fight. | ||
| I said I didn't want to do it. | ||
| Maybe I told you behind closed doors we're going to do it. | ||
| You just called me out in public. | ||
| Well, now I can't go back on my word. | ||
| You're not getting that fight. | ||
| Well, I think they probably brought it up to him. | ||
| That's what they're saying. | ||
| Dana said a lawyer brought it up. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| He said a UFC lawyer who's very invested in UFC and makes a lot of matches, a lot of calls. | ||
| The name slips my mind right now. | ||
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A lawyer brought it up? | |
| A lawyer who works for the UFC actually tried making the fight happen. | ||
| That's weird that you say that because he said that the lawyers contacted Tyron and told him to stop saying that. | ||
| Well, I'm sure after he gave him the offer and Dana goes, what the fuck? | ||
| Take that out. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know how that works. | ||
| Me neither. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| But the point is... | ||
| When he was on your show, did he talk about it at all? | ||
| No. | ||
| I don't think it had been brought up then. | ||
| You know, he had just gone through shoulder surgery. | ||
| He just had his labrum fixed. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Which is another thing, like, hey man, how long does that take to fix? | ||
| You gotta make sure that shit gets fixed right. | ||
| Yeah, it's due in July. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, hopefully it'll be done, right? | ||
| But that's four or five months. | ||
| It's touch and go with shoulder injuries. | ||
| You really don't know. | ||
| Especially his style. | ||
| That shoulder needs to be 100%. | ||
| He's a fucking exploder. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| He explodes on that Jay Heron fight when he storms forward and fucking throws that giant overhand right. | ||
| Like, woo! | ||
| That's a fucking explosion. | ||
| Yeah, because they were going to try to make him come back quicker because they were trying to fill that UFC 222. Because you got Frankie and Ortega, right? | ||
| And then Cyborg versus a girl we've never heard of. | ||
| One thing, though, he's like super proactive on his recovery. | ||
| He's talking about PRP and stem cells. | ||
| He's a professional, man. | ||
| Tyrone's a complete professional. | ||
| Woodley is as professional as they get. | ||
| As they get. | ||
| And I also think he's probably going to be smart about it if it's not 100%. | ||
| So maybe he's planning for it to be 100%, and maybe they're a few months out. | ||
| If it's not, they could always readjust. | ||
| But he also has other forks in the fire where he goes, you know, I got the UFC Tonight gig, I got this TMZ Sports show, so he can force my hand, but I got these other gigs over here too. | ||
| He's smart, and he's also got his YouTube thing that he does, you know, Champ Life. | ||
| He does his own... | ||
| Oh, it's like an embedded thing? | ||
| Yep, he does his own... | ||
| What is it? | ||
| Is it called Champ Life? | ||
| I think it's called Champ Life. | ||
| Find out what it is. | ||
| I'm pretty sure Tyron Woodley's show is called Champ Life. | ||
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Which is smart. | |
| You gotta do your thing. | ||
| Very smart. | ||
| He means diversifying his output. | ||
| It's very smart. | ||
| Well, I think a lot of guys are learning from you. | ||
| A lot of guys are learning from you. | ||
| I mean, they gotta realize that you're funny. | ||
| Bitch, you better be funny, too. | ||
| Champ life. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| The champ life. | ||
| Tyron Woodley. | ||
| But I think it's smart to try to make some sort of a transition. | ||
| What separates you from a lot of these guys is you're very funny. | ||
| And that's... | ||
| You either are or you aren't. | ||
| I don't know if Tyron's that funny. | ||
| But he's definitely a bad motherfucker. | ||
| And I want to see what he's up to. | ||
| I think that's interesting. | ||
| I think that these kind of shows... | ||
| Look, would you want to watch some kid electrify dead rats? | ||
| Or do you want to watch how the baddest motherfuckers That's such a great reference. | ||
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170 in the world lives his life. | |
| Don't you want to watch that guy train? | ||
| The fuck is that guy doing? | ||
| He's electrocuting dead rats after being suspended. | ||
| My bad, my bad. | ||
| Alright, check this out though. | ||
| Tyron Woodley's fucking everybody up on the planet. | ||
| I mean, wouldn't you want to watch that? | ||
| That, to me, is the guy... | ||
| It's a fine line, though. | ||
| And I like what Woodley's doing, stuff like that. | ||
| And you have to have almost another team control it. | ||
| You know, with Frankie. | ||
| Frankie has the UFC gym. | ||
| He has all these other business endeavors. | ||
| He goes, I don't deal with it at all. | ||
| I have a team who deals with it. | ||
| I focus on fighting. | ||
| Because for Woodley, he's very hands-on. | ||
| That's what made him world champion. | ||
| And if you're not focused on things... | ||
| And I said this to Cowboy. | ||
| I said, what do you think... | ||
| Darren Till was doing when you're on these movie sets, man. | ||
| He's kicking bags. | ||
| He's thinking about beating you. | ||
| It's a fine line. | ||
| It's a super fine line. | ||
| You don't see the NFL athletes or the NBA athletes trying all these other avenues because they're making banks so they don't have to do it. | ||
| Anything is distracting. | ||
| Anything that you have to do... | ||
| It's taken away from your art. | ||
| If you've ever been on a movie set before, have you ever done a movie? | ||
| I've been on set, yes. | ||
| You've been on set when you did those shows that you and Callum did together. | ||
| It's a lot of fucking work, man. | ||
| It takes a long time. | ||
| We wrote all those, so it was even more work. | ||
| But yeah, when you're on set, it's hurry up and wait. | ||
| You're not doing anything else. | ||
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Right. | |
| And if you are a guy who has to be in shape for a world title fight or a world-class fight like that, like anybody trying to do a movie before a big fight, man, you better spend a lot of time to get back in shape. | ||
| Look at Ronda. | ||
| I hate to go back to old Punt, but you look at Ronda, it's just... | ||
| You have the wrong people in the air, and oh, you can do this, you can do this, and now WME controls UFC, and we'll put you in this movie, we'll put you in this movie. | ||
| God, I don't know, man. | ||
| You gotta strike where the iron's hot. | ||
| You know what's really interesting, man, is how many times that story repeats itself over and over again. | ||
| I mean, that's the theme in Rocky. | ||
| Always, man. | ||
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Remember? | |
| Before Rocky fights Clubber Lang, he's getting all soft and shit, and he's in movies and shit, he's in movies with Hulk Hogan. | ||
| Remember that? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, all this crazy shit. | ||
| Was it a movie with Hulk Hogan, or it was a TV show? | ||
| It was an exhibition? | ||
| Exhibition, yeah. | ||
| Me and him are going to move around. | ||
| And then Hulk's all serious. | ||
| Dude, wrestlers are no joke, man. | ||
| You could say all you want that wrestling is fake. | ||
| I'm into WWE now. | ||
| But the fucking athleticism those guys have and the toughness to slam each other around like that every night. | ||
| And they work like 300 nights a year, man. | ||
| It's a monster. | ||
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He threw Stallone into the fucking crowd. | |
| How jacked is Hulk, though? | ||
| Now, who's catching Stallone? | ||
| Is it a team of stuntmen, you think? | ||
| Yeah, for sure. | ||
| They must have practiced that shit. | ||
|
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You know what? | |
| That looks like a dummy. | ||
| That's not a real person. | ||
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What? | |
| That looks like a fake person. | ||
| Is it? | ||
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I thought, but it has to be him. | |
| There's no way they could have pulled that off. | ||
| You don't think so in the 80s? | ||
| No, I don't think so, man. | ||
| You look at the body. | ||
| That shit's real. | ||
| I don't know, fellas. | ||
| That's not rubbery enough. | ||
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Let's find a video. | |
| And his legs adjust in mid-air, man. | ||
| You can tell the difference between someone's legs adjusting and they're not adjusting. | ||
| Yeah, you might be right. | ||
| I had a buddy do a movie with Rocky, and they said Sylvester Stallone will tell real fight stories from his movies, like they're actual fights. | ||
| But I remember when I was in there with Hulk Hogan, I remember through this left and I saw the Cormier and I was like, not today. | ||
|
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What? | |
| Yeah. | ||
|
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What? | |
| He's so, like, in that fight world. | ||
| And he'll talk about his old fight scenes like they were actual fights. | ||
| But is he doing it for fun? | ||
| Or does he really think that they fought... | ||
| Here's the thing. | ||
| When a guy gets old enough and they get famous for saying crazy shit, that's definitely him. | ||
| He adjusts. | ||
| He lifts forward when he throws him in. | ||
| He pulls his head back away from the ground. | ||
| Hulk was my favorite. | ||
| Dude, I ran into Hulk Hogan once. | ||
| I met Hulk Hogan when I did the UFC. I had to interview him once. | ||
| And it was one of the funnest fucking interviews of my life. | ||
| First of all, I couldn't believe I'm sitting there talking to Hulk Hogan. | ||
| But he's pumping up wrestling. | ||
| And so I got fucking super pumped up about it. | ||
| I got jazzed up. | ||
| Hell yeah. | ||
| Mugging for the camera. | ||
| It was so stupid, but it was one of the funnest times I've ever had ever interviewed anybody. | ||
| They're showmen, dude. | ||
| Oh, look at you, man. | ||
| Sports and entertainment. | ||
| Huge personality. | ||
| The one and only. | ||
| What's up, brother? | ||
| Welcome aboard, sir. | ||
| How are you? | ||
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Thank you, my brother. | |
| You know, to be here with Joe Mania, it doesn't get any better than this, brother. | ||
| These guys are going to war out here. | ||
| It's unbelievable. | ||
| Now, you've been in some MMA fights before. | ||
| Are you a UFC fan? | ||
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Oh, I'm a huge fan, my brother. | |
| I sure am. | ||
| Now, I understand that you have recently announced a partnership with TNA Wrestling and his president, Dixie Carter. | ||
| And you're going to be moving to Spike TV. We're going to see some Hulkamania on Spike TV. Now, is this the same organization that Billy Corgan owns? | ||
| Does he own... | ||
| Which one does he own? | ||
| I'm pretty sure he owns TM. I don't remember which one he bought. | ||
| I'm pretty sure he bought this one, yes. | ||
| Yeah, I'm pretty sure he bought this one. | ||
| I listen to that podcast. | ||
| He owns that one. | ||
| How cool is Billy Corgan? | ||
| I want to be friends with him, bro. | ||
| He just decides to buy a pro wrestling organization. | ||
| He knows his shit, though, as far as wrestling goes. | ||
| I know, but how funny it is when you hear him talking, he's like, yeah, everybody wants me to be all emo, but... | ||
| I like watching pro wrestling! | ||
| I love it, man. | ||
| I used to hate on... | ||
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Go ahead. | |
| He bought the National Wrestling Alliance. | ||
| Oh, NWA. So that's TNA and then NWA. And Hulk used to be part of NWA, too, though, right? | ||
| NWO. That's New World Order. | ||
| NWA was Ric Flair, right? | ||
| Wasn't that Ric Flair? | ||
| What's that? | ||
| NWA. It was Ric Flair, and then they wanted him to go WWF, but it was too late. | ||
| That's right. | ||
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Woo! | |
| Dude, I have Ric Flair t-shirts now. | ||
| You should. | ||
| You should. | ||
| Ric Flair is a bad motherfucker. | ||
| I'm trying to get him on my show. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You should have him on here. | ||
| I would love to have him on here. | ||
| Ric, if you're out there, sir, open invitation. | ||
| Dude. | ||
| I'm into wrestling now. | ||
| Have you seen that video of the football players in the green room? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Or in the locker room? | ||
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Yes. | |
| Repeating it and then in between Rick the Nature Boy Flair saying it back and forth. | ||
| No, I haven't seen that. | ||
| You haven't seen it? | ||
| No, please bring that up, Jay. | ||
| See if you can find it. | ||
| I forget the team that was doing it, but they were yelling out his slogan and in between Rick- Limousine riding, tuxedo wearing, and I'm having a hard time keeping these gators down! | ||
| Here it is, here it is. | ||
| Give it to me for the beginning. | ||
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Rolex wearing. | |
| Diamond ring wearing. | ||
| Kiss Dillon. | ||
| Wheel and Dillon. | ||
| Limousine ride. | ||
| Jet fly. | ||
| Son of a gun. | ||
| Son of a gun. | ||
| Holy cow. | ||
| And a Ric Flair. | ||
| Now they did this and then they spliced it in with Ric Flair. | ||
| See if you can find that. | ||
| It's them saying one line, and then, RIC FLAIR saying the second line, and then going back to them, it's fucking amazing. | ||
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I'm having a hard time holding these alligators down! | |
| Yeah, dude, it's fucking amazing. | ||
| I don't think that's it. | ||
| See if you can... | ||
| There's a video out there. | ||
| Someone has it. | ||
| Dude, I've never been... | ||
| Someone send it to Jamie on Twitter. | ||
| I've never been more moved by a documentary than when I watch this 30 for 30. This is it. | ||
| This is it. | ||
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Diamond ring wearing! | |
| Kiss stealing! | ||
| Woo! | ||
| Wheel of dealing! | ||
| Limousine rack! | ||
| Jet flying! | ||
| Son of a gun! | ||
| And I'm having a hard time holding these alligators up! | ||
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The greatest! | |
| I mean, when he comes to just someone, like, a catchphrase, like someone saying something that just gives you goosebumps and makes you fire it up and makes you start fucking clapping. | ||
| Dude, to this day, if you say Ric Flair on stage and hold the microphone out, the whole audience will go, woo! | ||
| Even Australia. | ||
| While Matthews was like balls deep with a guy gouging his eyes out, you heard, woo! | ||
| Yeah, dude. | ||
| Everybody. | ||
| All over the world. | ||
| All over the world. | ||
| But it's like an amazing, weird occurrence that happens every now and then, where a guy just nails something and becomes a part of pop culture forever. | ||
| But think about it. | ||
| Floyd, Connard, they're all ripping off from him. | ||
| That's where they got it. | ||
| Remember, he was way before all of them. | ||
| Muhammad Ali was before him, though. | ||
| Muhammad Ali was talking shit like that in the 1960s. | ||
| Not like that, though, right? | ||
| Not like boasting about his riches in women. | ||
| Are you kidding me? | ||
| Not to that level. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| Not to that level, though. | ||
| Right, Joe? | ||
| Dude, Muhammad Ali would write poems. | ||
| I know poems, but not about money and splurging and limousines and bitches and alligators. | ||
| Maybe not about bitches and allogators, but about how great he was. | ||
| It's different, though. | ||
| You talk about how great he was, how he's finished being around, stuff like that. | ||
| I've seen that. | ||
| I'm saying as far as boasting and almost that low-level rags-to-riches. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| Maybe he did. | ||
| I don't know, but I know he would belittle people to no end. | ||
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For sure. | |
| He said about Jimmy Terrell, he said... | ||
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Jimmy Terrell, if he dreams he beats me, he better wake up and apologize. | |
| Like, he would say shit. | ||
| He's a poet. | ||
| Who he fought? | ||
| You said that? | ||
| Whoever he fought. | ||
| I thought it was the Frasier where he said if he even dreams about beating me. | ||
| I don't think it was, but, I mean, there were so many of those fucking interviews where he talked so much crazy shit. | ||
| He would talk shit, but I'm talking- Yeah, give me something. | ||
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...the world's greatest. | |
| He must fall in five rounds, but if you talk about me, I'll cut it three. | ||
| I'll never fight another fella tough as Doug Jones, not even that big, ugly, bad son of Lester. | ||
| Is he your next fight? | ||
| Well, after I now late this Henry Cooper, I want that bear. | ||
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I want him bad. | |
| What's gonna happen to him? | ||
| He might be great, but he'll fall in eight. | ||
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I'm the prettiest fighter in the ring today. | |
| That's my label. | ||
| He was a smart guy, man. | ||
| He talked crazy shit. | ||
| Super smart. | ||
| I'm too fast. | ||
| But it was always about his skills. | ||
| It wasn't like, I have this much money, I have a limo, I have a Rolex. | ||
| Where like Floyd and like Ric Flair took that to another level. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He took the I'm a rich guy thing to a new level. | ||
| And like bragged about his riches because he was a heel. | ||
| So he's like, I got money, I got bitches, I got gators for coats. | ||
| What's up? | ||
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I'm having a hard time holding these alligators down. | |
| Give me that one more time. | ||
| Yeah, give me that again. | ||
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Looking at a guy out here hollering my name when last year I spent more money on spilt liquor in bars from one side of this world to the other than you made. | |
| You talking to the Rolex wearing That is the best line of all time. | ||
| I'm just happy that's a real person. | ||
| Me too. | ||
| You know, I mean, that's like every now and then someone creates a character, right? | ||
| They nail something. | ||
| Whatever the fuck it is. | ||
| It's just when a guy can do that and it gets to everybody. | ||
| It's so hard these days to be original like that because there's been so many great figures before us that give these lines. | ||
| When's the last time you heard someone come up with a new quote that someone's inspired by? | ||
| It's all old, man. | ||
| You know what the worst thing is? | ||
| When someone tries a quote but it doesn't work. | ||
| There's nothing more painful. | ||
| There's nothing more painful. | ||
| But I thought about it. | ||
| You're not going to come up with some new quote that we haven't heard before. | ||
| It's been done before, man. | ||
| Yeah, there's some wacky ones out there, though. | ||
| Some people try super hard for a quote. | ||
| Especially hot girls with Instagram. | ||
| Like, don't fuck with Einstein's quote and post your ass. | ||
| How dare you? | ||
| It's a good move. | ||
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Hypothesis. | |
| I do like him, but how dare you? | ||
| Pythagoras Triangle. | ||
| Dude, did you see Elon Musk? | ||
| Have you seen this? | ||
| Where Trump goes, thank God to SpaceX, stuff like that. | ||
| Shows you how basically something about Americans. | ||
| And Elon Musk goes, I'm from South America, dumbass. | ||
| South Africa. | ||
| South Africa, that's right. | ||
| Did he call him a dumbass? | ||
| Dumbass. | ||
| That's hilarious. | ||
| Hilarious. | ||
| It's false? | ||
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I just googled it. | |
| Is that fake? | ||
| Nope, says it was false. | ||
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Damn it! | |
| I want to believe! | ||
| My friend sent that to me. | ||
| I thought it was hilarious. | ||
| I want to believe. | ||
| Yeah, well, how do you not love a guy who shoots a fucking car into space? | ||
| And then put, this was built by humans. | ||
| Let him do whatever he wants. | ||
| Hey, man, if I said to you, hey, Brendan, let's go to the White House and ask them if we could shoot a car into space. | ||
| You're like, what the fuck are you talking about, man? | ||
| What the fuck's wrong with you, man? | ||
| No, I think I'm going to go there. | ||
| I'm going to just tell them. | ||
| I got this idea. | ||
| I got, like, a tube and some gunpowder. | ||
| I'm going to light the bottom part on fire. | ||
| Send this white Tesla. | ||
| I've never done it before, but I'm pretty sure I could shoot a car in space. | ||
| I'm going to have a mannequin at the car. | ||
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It's fucking nuts. | |
| Well, where's it going to go? | ||
| It's just going to float around in space. | ||
| Try to get to Mars. | ||
| We're going to overshoot, though. | ||
| This is one of the things. | ||
| Who was saying this? | ||
| Oh, Duncan. | ||
| We were like, what if the spaceship shot this car into space and this car hits an asteroid that sends it hurling towards Earth? | ||
| It's just like a bomb. | ||
| It changes the direction of this asteroid. | ||
| Because it's one of the things they've always said. | ||
| Like, if an asteroid is coming our way, they would shoot something at it. | ||
| It would bounce it out of the way. | ||
| Yeah, like Armageddon. | ||
| And that would save us. | ||
| The movie Armageddon. | ||
| Bruce Willis did it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But what if it bounced it towards us? | ||
| What if this asshole shoot in his fucking car with David Bowie on the stereo, he fucking clips this asteroid and it goes straight to Manhattan. | ||
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Boom! | |
| Elon Musk, biggest dick of all time then. | ||
| Or what if we shoot that car into space and it hits an alien spaceship that's coming here to give us wisdom? | ||
| Just completely fucked up. | ||
| Right through the windshield. | ||
| That's a negative way of thinking. | ||
| Is this the Flat Earth guy? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, that guy's crazy. | ||
| He's only raised $110 because you're a dumbass. | ||
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That's weird. | |
| Because you're a dumbass. | ||
| Hold on. | ||
| It's only $110 out of $10,000 goal? | ||
| Listen, you Flat Earthers, you need to put your money where your mouth is. | ||
| I'm starting to believe that you don't really believe in this cause. | ||
| Yeah, send my boy Michael Hughes $10,000. | ||
| You get your liver-spotted hands off my mother. | ||
| He's had a couple of shots at it. | ||
| He bailed on the first shot. | ||
| And he fails, right? | ||
| I don't think he's actually... | ||
| Has he launched himself into space yet? | ||
| I think they got delayed a few times. | ||
| The first time he was going to do it, the government got involved and was like, yeah, you can't do that. | ||
| Yo, that is such a crazy move. | ||
| I'm surprised Eddie doesn't fucking, he has $10,000. | ||
| If Eddie, you think they're flat, fucking give this guy some money. | ||
| Well, what about that B.O.B. character? | ||
| Isn't he super wealthy? | ||
| He hasn't had a single in forever. | ||
| Well, it's because he's been too busy with flat earth theory. | ||
| Wasting his money. | ||
| Listen, man, once he understands the fucking real true image of the earth, and then you have a wall that surrounds the outer realm of the earth, and everybody thinks the worth is round, you've got some shit to tell to people. | ||
| It's more important than your rap songs. | ||
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You're right, man. | |
| Oh, you made things rhyme. | ||
| You've got to get people woke. | ||
| Look at the guy from Blink-182. | ||
| He went, fuck this noise. | ||
| He moved on. | ||
| Y'all got to take this flat earth shit to the next level. | ||
| Fuck the flat versus round argument. | ||
| Let's talk more about the simulation. | ||
| And... | ||
| And whose programming it is. | ||
| That's how both sides get benefit if it's round or flat. | ||
| Oh my god, it's crazy. | ||
| Sounds like B.O.B.'s going through some shit. | ||
| Fuck this flatter stuff. | ||
| What else can we talk about? | ||
| Well, here's the thing. | ||
| And this is something really important for anybody who's listening to this. | ||
| You've got to not hang yourself on your ideas. | ||
| I've done it. | ||
| I did it in the past. | ||
| When you do that, you're not really paying attention. | ||
| You're only looking for things that support your idea. | ||
| It's called confirmation bias. | ||
| Everybody's susceptible to it, me included. | ||
| I've done it a hundred times to myself in the past. | ||
| But once you realize what it is, if you keep doing the same goddamn thing, then you're being stupid. | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| So once you know what it is, and you know it's possible... | ||
| Let's just look at this. | ||
| Look at all the overwhelming amount of evidence from super geniuses that say it's round. | ||
| You gotta walk away. | ||
| It hurts your view of the world to believe that. | ||
| Because you can't believe it if you're really paying attention. | ||
| So if you believe that, what you're saying is you have a very limited box in which you're willing to operate in. | ||
| You're not willing to accept anything outside of what you've already got as a preconceived idea, and you're ignoring massive amounts of data that points to the fact that you're wrong. | ||
| So by doing that, you limit your own view of yourself. | ||
| You don't trust in the way you view things anymore. | ||
| You're boxed in. | ||
| It's very dangerous to be committed to something you know is not true. | ||
| It also shows a level of intelligence. | ||
| Because when you got these geniuses who spent their entire lives doing this stuff in astrophysics, you're telling me that they're part of this scheme, too, and they believe that it's... | ||
| This is 100% of the problem. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| It's adopting an idea too soon. | ||
| That's 100% of the idea. | ||
| Because once you adopt that idea and then you hang on to it, now you're fucked. | ||
| Like Bigfoot, man. | ||
| Bigfoot was a big one for me. | ||
| I was convinced that Bigfoot was real. | ||
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Really? | |
| What's wrong with you? | ||
| How long ago was this? | ||
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Not when I... Not when I'd known you. | |
| Yeah, man. | ||
| When I did this TV show, that's when I totally let it go. | ||
| I'd kind of let it go before then, but Duncan and I actually went to the Pacific Northwest, and we went to hang out with real Bigfoot experts, searching for Bigfoot all the time. | ||
| When you say real Bigfoot experts, you mean con artists? | ||
| No, it's not that. | ||
| Dumbasses. | ||
| The way I describe them is unfuckable white dudes. | ||
| Who have nothing to do. | ||
| They're just a bunch of fellows. | ||
| We decided to call ourselves a rap band. | ||
| We're going to call ourselves UFWD, unfuckable white dudes. | ||
| And you didn't find anything. | ||
| You didn't find shit. | ||
| You found camp spots. | ||
| A lot of spit, shells, and beer cans laying around. | ||
| You're better than that, Joe. | ||
| No, this is what I found out. | ||
| People want to believe in things. | ||
| And once you want to believe in something, instead of looking at it objectively and going, well, I'm not sure, you automatically go towards any information that would point to the fact that the thing is real. | ||
| Not to the whole body of information. | ||
| Look, how crazy are these people? | ||
| When you meet the people that believe in Bigfoot, the ones that have seen it, the ones that claim to have seen it, almost all of them were clearly lying. | ||
| And a little, like, out of it? | ||
| There was one lady. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| Yeah, but some people are just liars. | ||
| They can't help it. | ||
| They make stories up to make themselves feel better. | ||
| Like, they're just crazy. | ||
| And you can't really say it to their face because you don't really know. | ||
| But sometimes it just gets ridiculous. | ||
| And this one lady was one of the only ones that didn't seem like that. | ||
| This one lady was telling me a story about how she was going through the woods. | ||
| And she saw some big thing that was standing up and it was like seven feet tall and it was moving through the woods and she saw this thing and she was like, oh my god, it's an ape. | ||
| And then she realized it was Bigfoot and she saw it for a few steps and then it was gone. | ||
| At the time, I was fascinated. | ||
| At the time, I was like, maybe she really did see it. | ||
| But now I know for a fact, an absolute fact, that where she lived, there's a lot of black bears. | ||
| And black bears will often walk on their hind legs. | ||
| They'll walk like Bigfoot. | ||
| They really do. | ||
| There's many, many, many, many videos. | ||
| I've seen it. | ||
| With my own two eyes, I saw a bear walk for several steps, like six, seven, maybe even ten steps on its hind legs, roaring at another bear, and they were gonna fight with each other, and they fought with each other, standing up. | ||
| They went after each other. | ||
| Dope. | ||
| But dude, he walked towards him, like that. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| That does look like that. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| See that bear? | ||
| This is a bear that had injured paws. | ||
| And sometimes they'll get their paw bit off in a fight, they duke it out with each other, or maybe they get caught in a trap. | ||
| You know, some fucking assholes that set traps out there for them too. | ||
| So they're forced to walk like that. | ||
| They bite their own foot off to get out of a trap. | ||
| Damn, man. | ||
| That's real, man. | ||
| They get wolves that way. | ||
| They catch them in traps. | ||
| Jesus. | ||
| Traps are scary shit. | ||
| Hell yeah. | ||
| But these animals, you know, when they get a hurt paw, they'll walk on their back legs like Bigfoot. | ||
| So she probably saw some shit moving through the woods. | ||
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Holy shit. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Dude, they just stand there. | ||
| That's terrifying. | ||
| I know. | ||
| And they can walk like that. | ||
| That's terrifying, but it's... | ||
| Clearly not a fucking Bigfoot, you morons. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| See, you say that, but dude, I'm telling you, when you're in the Pacific Northwest, you cannot see 15 yards in front of you. | ||
| Duncan and I were talking about it. | ||
| Because, you know, we had to hang out up there and go wandering through the woods. | ||
| We're like, if there was something right there, like five trees away, and then it moved into the back, how long would it take before it disappeared? | ||
| Two steps? | ||
| Three steps? | ||
| It's so dense, dude. | ||
| It's like a Q-tip box. | ||
| You know how you get Q-tips out of a box? | ||
| Yeah, it's a nightmare. | ||
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It's just... | |
| There's so many of them. | ||
| There's no gaps in between these trees. | ||
| Have you been to the Pacific Northwest? | ||
| Like the rainforest up there? | ||
| No, I've never been in there. | ||
| I mean, I obviously drove through it going to shows or some shit. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| And here's the other thing about it. | ||
| It's all pine needles. | ||
| So you don't even make any noise. | ||
| Yeah, but I would see a standing figure like that in my educated brain. | ||
| I'd go, oh, that's a fucking giant bear. | ||
| No, because you'd be looking at a hill like a hundred yards away. | ||
| And you would see this thing walk through the tree standing up. | ||
| And you'd be like, what in the fuck was that? | ||
| And then it's gone. | ||
| So then your imagination starts running wild. | ||
| Your imagination starts filling the blanks. | ||
| I don't think it's a coincidence that... | ||
| Am I high or not? | ||
| For sure you're high. | ||
| Well, then I'd probably think it's Bigfoot. | ||
| You're in Seattle, man. | ||
| Okay, then it's Bigfoot. | ||
| Why would you not be high? | ||
| You're eating mushrooms. | ||
| You're high as fuck. | ||
| Oh, I'm on shrooms? | ||
| Everybody up there's on shrooms. | ||
| Then that's a walking brown unicorn. | ||
| You're walking down this road in the forest and you see something that's in the woods and you see it briefly a hundred yards away for three or four steps. | ||
| Your brain starts filling in the blanks and you get excited. | ||
| You saw a fucking Bigfoot and I will go to my grave knowing what I saw that day! | ||
| And everybody wants to be special. | ||
| So everybody wants to pretend they saw a giant monkey in the woods. | ||
| But when you really talk to them, that was the only lady I knew that wasn't lying to me. | ||
| She saw something. | ||
| She actually thought it was Bigfoot, but it was a standing... | ||
| If I had a guess, if I had some money to bet, I'd bet almost 100% what she saw was a bear. | ||
| You did the show, and after coming back from that show, you're like, you know what? | ||
| Bigfoot's bullshit. | ||
| It's the same feeling I got talking to everybody. | ||
| Psychic readers... | ||
| Same feeling I got talking to UFO experts. | ||
| Same feeling I got. | ||
| Everybody wants to believe. | ||
| Everybody wants to believe. | ||
| See, the UFO I can fucks with. | ||
| The UFO makes sense to me. | ||
| There's so many kind of X factors there. | ||
| I can buy a UFO. It could be real. | ||
| It could be real. | ||
| Bigfoot, come on. | ||
| Here's the thing about Bigfoot. | ||
| The reason why it's so attractive is because it used to be a real animal. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| It was a thing called Gigantopithecus. | ||
| Bring that shit up. | ||
| They didn't know about Gigantopithecus until I believe it was the 1920s. | ||
| They found a tooth of this primate in an apothecary shop in China. | ||
| And they're like, what the fuck is this? | ||
| Someone was selling it? | ||
| Yeah, they were selling it. | ||
| And someone found another tooth. | ||
| And they said, oh, there's another. | ||
| And the primatologist who checked it out, that was a real animal. | ||
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God. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Dog. | ||
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Dog. | |
| Eight foot tall, gigantic, orangutan-looking thing. | ||
| It still doesn't look like a human, guys? | ||
| It was in the orangutan family. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Dude, it doesn't... | ||
| Well, Bigfoot's supposed to look like that. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| That's what it's supposed to look like. | ||
| Yeah, it's not supposed to look like a human. | ||
| Well, I thought it was like a hairy-human combo. | ||
| There's a photo of a man standing next to a proportionate man, the average-sized man standing next to a Gigantopithecus statue. | ||
| See if you can find that in there. | ||
| I know it's in there. | ||
| Gigantic Picethys. | ||
| Yeah, that's it. | ||
| That was how big it was. | ||
| So that was a real animal. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| Now, they're not 100% sure that it walked on two legs. | ||
| But they're pretty sure. | ||
| And the reason why is the shape of the teeth. | ||
| That animals that walk on their hind legs, animals that walk upright, have a different shape to their jaw. | ||
| So that's what they found. | ||
| They found a jawbone, and they found some teeth, and they found it all on the same site. | ||
| And then they realized that they're dealing with a totally different animal. | ||
| And he was around how long ago? | ||
| 10,000 years ago. | ||
| So this thing existed somewhere in the neighborhood of, I think that's right. | ||
| Wait a minute, that might be wrong. | ||
| I think I'm thinking of the Flores man. | ||
| Was it the Hobbit man? | ||
| The little three foot tall dude? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| That dude was like 10,000, 14,000 years ago. | ||
| That was really soon. | ||
| Like really recently. | ||
| Definitely lived alongside people. | ||
| This might be 100,000. | ||
| What makes it attractive, though, is where that thing lived is exactly where all the animals came across the Bering Land Bridge that connected Asia to North America. | ||
| So this Bering Land Bridge was where they think everything came across. | ||
| Short-faced bears, even people. | ||
| One of the things about Native Americans, it's a funny thing how they found this out. | ||
| They found this out through crazy Mormons who wanted to prove that all of the Native Americans were actually the lost tribe of Israel because that was... | ||
| Mormons are crazy, bro. | ||
| At least they got something right, though. | ||
| So, they got one thing right. | ||
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Yes. | |
| Dying wise, baby. | ||
| Keep that party rolling. | ||
| That's why nobody's fighting over there. | ||
| Depends what state you're in. | ||
| Let's chill. | ||
| So this guy who's like some rich Mormon guy spends a shit ton of money. | ||
| Turns out he gets the DNA tested. | ||
| They're all from Siberia. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yup. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They came down from Siberia. | ||
| That's why they look different as they go through the different climates. | ||
| If you look at Inuits in Alaska, in that area, They look super similar to Siberians, man. | ||
| Siberians have that strong features, Asian-looking, Mongol, like Genghis Khan-looking face, like powerful people. | ||
| Dude, that's what they look like. | ||
| They're all from Siberia? | ||
| Dude, they're from Siberia. | ||
| And so as they came down and got deeper into North America, then you got all sorts of different influences, different kind of people, but they look different. | ||
| And they start looking more and more Mexican. | ||
| When you get down to the Mayans, the Mayans are very Mexican. | ||
| Aztecs. | ||
| It's all Mexican. | ||
| And then they've got people coming in from Spain and teaching them Spanish. | ||
| But you've got to realize these people started off essentially Native Americans before the Spanish arrived. | ||
| It's really interesting stuff. | ||
| Dude, it's super interesting stuff. | ||
| Mormon found that shit out. | ||
| So Mormon found that shit by trying to prove that his shit was right. | ||
| But the problem is, all this time... | ||
| I'll just wrap it up here. | ||
| All this time is when that animal existed. | ||
| So this animal was a real animal during this time. | ||
| So during the time that all these animals were coming across the Bering Land Bridge, it's highly likely... | ||
| That there might have been one of those fucking things that came over too. | ||
| And then people started to share stories and became this folklore. | ||
| It's probably dead now. | ||
| Like it's dead in Asia. | ||
| But the Native Americans have a bunch of different names for it. | ||
| One of the things that's interesting about the Sasquatch and Native American culture, I think they have 40 different names for it. | ||
| Too much. | ||
| Well, I think it existed. | ||
| I think something like that existed. | ||
| Or it could have been the same thing about this lady. | ||
| She sees a bear walking on two legs, a story, you know, they tell a tale. | ||
| They also were smoking a lot of shit, eating a lot of shrooms. | ||
| That's right, dawg. | ||
| A lot of that goes into it. | ||
| Eating a lot of that San Pedro cactus. | ||
| Yeah, son. | ||
| Ayahuasca and shit. | ||
| I see a cat. | ||
| I think it's very good. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| Drums and shit in front of the fire on peyote. | ||
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Feeling the music, yeah. | |
| Executing people with knives and shit. | ||
| What is all that, Jamie? | ||
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All the different names for Bigfoot. | |
| Ah, come on, everybody. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| Different Native American Bigfoot names. | ||
| But are these like those gender pronouns where people are just making them up? | ||
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Yeah, the meaning over here isn't always just like Bigfoot. | |
| Ah, fuck off. | ||
| One says big man with a little hat. | ||
| Oh, that's my boy. | ||
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Harry Savage, Otter Man, Dangerous Being. | |
| Bushman? | ||
| Dangerous Being. | ||
| A lot of that could be attributed to a lack of understanding of what really is out there. | ||
| They don't have an accurate account of all the different animals. | ||
| They know there's a bunch of them that can kill them. | ||
| Yeah, we would find it by now. | ||
| The government would find it if the shit was out there. | ||
| Someone would find it. | ||
| Tim Kennedy would find it. | ||
| Tim Kennedy would find it. | ||
| If you hear about Tim Gage's new show, I don't mean to interrupt you. | ||
| Hunting for Hitler? | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Hard to kill. | ||
| They put him in certain situations to see if he gets out of it. | ||
| What? | ||
| Our boy Aubrey's telling me about this today. | ||
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What? | |
| It's on Discovery History. | ||
| Why are they doing that? | ||
| Because Tim Kennedy, you can't kill him. | ||
| He's Captain America. | ||
| They like put him in a burning plane. | ||
| He got like third-degree burns. | ||
| He makes it out alive. | ||
| They put him in an avalanche. | ||
| He gets out alive. | ||
| Dude, they shouldn't do this. | ||
| Dude. | ||
| Dude, he's such a monster. | ||
| He's a fucking animal. | ||
| He's the best human I know. | ||
| But I don't want them to kill him for a TV show. | ||
| No, you can't kill him. | ||
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Yeah, but you can. | |
| He's a person. | ||
| Nah, not Dick Kennedy. | ||
| If Yoel Romero's waiting there with a hammer, he's got a real problem on his hands. | ||
| If Yoel's waiting there with EPO and a hammer, he's in trouble. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| Crazy show though, right? | ||
| Yeah, that's a crazy idea. | ||
| He's another guy who... | ||
| I say put him on anything. | ||
| I'm interested in him on anything. | ||
| He's a fascinating guy. | ||
| Great guy. | ||
| He's a guy who's parlayed his career after fighting something great. | ||
| Well, he is a professional bad motherfucker. | ||
| I mean, that's literally who he is. | ||
| But he's not a meathead, too. | ||
| He's a smart guy. | ||
| He's educated. | ||
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Exactly. | |
| But he's a bad motherfucker. | ||
| He's got good advice for people, too. | ||
| He's the baddest motherfucker. | ||
| And just like a nice, nice dude. | ||
| Don't die, Tim Kennedy. | ||
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Please. | |
| Please don't. | ||
| You know, I heard that show. | ||
| Not for TV. I go, what if he dies? | ||
| Not for TV, Tim. | ||
| Gotta get those ratings, son. | ||
| Yeah, I just, again, wouldn't you want to just see that guy hanging around all day? | ||
| Well, I mean, if you're, do people really want to go see the Kardashian's house? | ||
| And look at my shoes, oh my god, super cute. | ||
| Do they really want to see that? | ||
| Or do they want to see Tim Kennedy at the range, talking shit, practicing killing terrorists? | ||
| I want to see both. | ||
| I don't want to see the other one. | ||
| You want to see the other one? | ||
| Well, I'm not mad at their asses and stuff. | ||
| Well, no, I don't care what they say, but I'd like to see Tim Kenney in the Kardashians' house. | ||
| Teach them how to fight. | ||
| Ooh, okay. | ||
| Like, mix it, you know what I'm saying? | ||
| Him and Kanye, do you think they would see eye to eye? | ||
| Yeah, I do. | ||
| Tim Kennedy and Caitlyn Jenner? | ||
| Jim Kennedy is like the anti-Conway. | ||
| I bet he would be interesting with Caitlyn. | ||
| I bet he'd be interesting. | ||
| He's a very open-minded guy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, he doesn't give a fuck what you do. | ||
| Just don't get in the way of the military. | ||
| No, he's the best man. | ||
| Don't get in his way. | ||
| It's not like looking to tell people how to live their life. | ||
| Damn right he has a show. | ||
| Should have a show. | ||
| Well, I think there's a lot of missed opportunities that a lot of these guys have, but what they are as unique individuals, there's people that are good at promoting themselves, and there's people that just don't have that part of them. | ||
| You're referring to fighters? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like Stipe? | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| I feel like Stipe's a can't-lose scenario. | ||
| Me too. | ||
| You just need more attention. | ||
| And people need to recognize it more and more. | ||
| And I think the more wins, like the Angano win, the Junior Dos Santos win, the Overeem win, it's like he's becoming a superstar. | ||
| He's just taking a little bit more time. | ||
| Yeah, but Dana made the comments where he goes, you know, he doesn't help us sell the fight. | ||
| I'm like, well, him being a firefighter, him being the most winning heavyweight of all time, that kind of helps, right? | ||
| How are you saying he didn't help? | ||
| What do you mean? | ||
| He's not saying he doesn't sell. | ||
| He's just saying he does the minimum as far as interviews and media. | ||
| He just wants to fight and fight fires. | ||
| You know what, man? | ||
| There's a fine line that has to be drawn, right? | ||
| Between how much promotion you do and how much training you do. | ||
| Training has to take precedent over anything. | ||
| Which is what Stipe does, which is why he's the winningest heavyweight. | ||
| It's on the promotion. | ||
| Yeah, I also wonder how much actual travel does versus how much access to him at his gym, talking to him at his gym. | ||
| Not being able to film any sparring or not being able to film any training they don't want to, but talk to him there. | ||
| Have short interviews that only take place while he's in training camp. | ||
| Like, do you want to talk to him? | ||
| Good. | ||
| The champ will meet you for 15 minutes after practice today. | ||
| So he just goes there, he sits for 15 minutes, he answers a couple questions from a guy, and then he bolts. | ||
| He says, thanks, I gotta get out of here, I gotta train. | ||
| Yeah, he goes and does all his recovery. | ||
| That way it doesn't interfere with travel and all that shit. | ||
| Yeah, I agree, but also, he shouldn't have to do that. | ||
| He's not the guy who's going to give you a soundbite that's going to sell a fight. | ||
| He sells the fight by training hard, beating people's ass, and he fights fires in his off time. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, being just a unique individual in that regard, right? | ||
| He's blue-collar. | ||
| Everyone can relate to Stipe. | ||
| More people can relate to Stipe than they can, say, Francis or Jon Jones. | ||
| Well, how many guys are world champions but still have a fucking day job, and that day job is being a firefighter? | ||
| That's actually frowned upon, though, in the UFC. Well, who else has done it? | ||
| Chris Lytle did it. | ||
| Shane Carwin. | ||
| Shane Carwin. | ||
| What was Shane doing? | ||
| He was an engineer. | ||
| He worked for the city of Greeley while fighting Brock Lesnar. | ||
| And they begged him to quit and he wouldn't do it. | ||
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Wow. | |
| Actually, I made him an offer to quit. | ||
| I remember being in his car and they made him an offer and he was like, nope, can't. | ||
| I have benefits, my kids, insurance, all that. | ||
| I'm not doing it. | ||
| Wow, that's interesting, man. | ||
| Because if you think about it, and I get it from the UFC standpoint, I get it because imagine if Lionel Messi or Peyton Manning or Tom Brady had side gigs while they're this world champion. | ||
| It's like, eesh, this is a bad look, man. | ||
| So you can still be that good, but you have to have this job to meet the bills? | ||
| Like, that's not good. | ||
| What if, like, he worked for the state of Colorado or something, didn't he? | ||
| Shane? | ||
| Yeah, as a water engineer. | ||
| The state of Greeley. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Or the city? | ||
| City of Greeley, sorry. | ||
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Why can't they give him some fucking few years off? | |
| You know, wouldn't that be the move? | ||
| Shane Greeley? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Just, like, give him a guarantee to come back. | ||
| Yeah, I don't know, man. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It doesn't really work like that in the workforce. | ||
| Like, they could probably fill his job with someone who's gonna work full-time. | ||
| I know, but wouldn't they love to have a heavyweight champion? | ||
| I don't think they'd give a fuck if you're like, no. | ||
| Greeley, you know what I'm saying? | ||
| Like, was he gonna sign some autographs during lunch? | ||
| Yeah, probably right. | ||
| I get both sides. | ||
| I get Shane, especially at the time, Shane going, nah man, I gotta look up for my family. | ||
| He knows how long I'm gonna do this. | ||
| I'm older, I have a family I gotta protect. | ||
| I have benefits and 401k and all that. | ||
| And then Dana going, dude, you're fighting Brock Lesnar. | ||
| I can't have you having a job and still trying to be the world champion. | ||
| Like, it's a bad look. | ||
| So I get both arguments. | ||
| Right, but for Stipe, it's not a bad look because people, especially to this day, it's a great look in terms of marketing. | ||
| Yeah, I love it. | ||
| Because people love first responders. | ||
| They hide it, though. | ||
| The UFC kind of hides it. | ||
| You won't see it on embedded or any of that stuff. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Not really. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| It's not put out there. | ||
| Really? | ||
| No, it makes the sport look bad. | ||
| I don't think it does. | ||
| He just doesn't want to quit. | ||
| I don't think it does either. | ||
| I'm saying this is from the UFC standpoint where they don't want a guy having a second job. | ||
| But the thing about this fire department is you get a lot of downtime. | ||
| People don't realize how much downtime those guys have. | ||
| Well, even the way they do shifts. | ||
| A lot of times they do 24-hour shifts. | ||
| They sleep at the station. | ||
| They work out there. | ||
| I had a friend from the pool hall days, Ray the Fireman. | ||
| And Ray the Fireman would explain... | ||
| Creative name? | ||
| They all had weird names. | ||
| There was White Plains, Charlie. | ||
| There was Mount Vernon, Tommy. | ||
| Everybody had weird names. | ||
| International Sal was the greatest name. | ||
| Did you have one? | ||
| No. | ||
| I was Joe the Comedian. | ||
| Again, not that creative, guys. | ||
| But they're just talking. | ||
| Was Frank the Fireman a firefighter? | ||
| They just needed to talk. | ||
| Roy. | ||
| Or Ray. | ||
| Was Ray the Fireman a firefighter? | ||
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Yeah, Ray the Fireman. | |
| He was a firefighter? | ||
| Yeah, he was a firefighter. | ||
| Well, Jesus. | ||
| He was the first guy that explained to me what a great gig it was, because he would do these 24-hour shifts, he'd do a couple in a row, and then he'd be done for the week. | ||
| And you'd stay there, most of the time you're bullshitting, guys are cooking, you work out if you like to, guys play cards. | ||
| Yeah, it's great, man. | ||
| I love firefighters. | ||
| Yeah, so Ray was explaining to me that it's a pretty good gig, but obviously when the shit goes down and the fire's burning, then it's a fucking terrifying gig. | ||
| These guys die. | ||
| You look at Stipe's Instagram, his most liked pics, a lot of it's him fighting a fire. | ||
| There's a picture of him going to work and he's covered in ash and he's just like, damn, that's a badass. | ||
| That's Captain America, son. | ||
| In a lot of ways, right? | ||
| I mean, Joey Diaz has that fucking amazing description, that immigrant mentality. | ||
| But that is it, man. | ||
| I mean, that's him keeping that name, too. | ||
| Stipe Miocic. | ||
| You know, that's not like someone changing their name to something that's more compatible with the modern society. | ||
| I mean, he looks like a... | ||
| He's from Cleveland, but yeah, I hear you. | ||
| Yeah, but look at him. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| Fucking animal, dude. | ||
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Monster. | |
| Monster. | ||
| Yeah, people don't appreciate him enough. | ||
| It's unfortunate. | ||
| When it's all said and done, he's gonna be one of the most loved heavyweights of all time. | ||
| He'll be like a Jack Dempsey type character even after his career is over. | ||
| People will love him. | ||
| That's not hating on the UFC. That's sports in general. | ||
| Like right now, LeBron, you know, the guys hate on him so much or Kevin Durant or Westbrook or even Tom Brady. | ||
| Like these greats in the sport right now. | ||
| Once they're gone, you're like, holy fuck. | ||
| Remember how good that guy was? | ||
| Stipe's that guy. | ||
| We're not appreciating what happens. | ||
| We're not appreciating Verdum or Conor or these guys. | ||
| While it's happening, you're like, ah, fuck this guy, this guy. | ||
| You pick and choose your battles. | ||
| Do you think that it's like, what is that? | ||
| What's that picture? | ||
| Boss Logic. | ||
| Poster's dope. | ||
| Oh, BossLogic made that? | ||
| Is BossLogic literally the best artist in the world? | ||
| What's going on? | ||
| Him and that dose bracket are fucking ridiculous. | ||
| I know. | ||
| Let's explain what we're seeing. | ||
| We're looking at Stipe's body with a UFC t-shirt on, like coming out of a fire with a fire mask on, fireman's mask on, holding his UFC belt and holding a hose in one hand with a UFC glove on. | ||
| It's so sick. | ||
| Yeah, he's a killer artist, man. | ||
| It's just, for whatever reason, sometimes that happens, where guys are overlooked. | ||
| That happens all the time. | ||
| While they're the king. | ||
| In sports and outside. | ||
| Football, yeah. | ||
| You're going to appreciate that guy after he's gone. | ||
| I mean, he's going to be like, oh shit, remember how good he was, man? | ||
| Look, if he beats DC, he's a shoo-in for the all-time great. | ||
| And right now, he's basically, you've got to think he's the all-time great, at least in terms of accomplishments. | ||
| Let me ask you this. | ||
| If DC were to beat Stipe as the all-time great, Where do you put DC? He's right up there, man. | ||
| Look, it's hard to do MMA math, especially when you got that Jon Jones wildcard. | ||
| That's what's the bummer, because if DC beats Stipe, whose regard is the greatest UFC heavyweight champion of all time, DC was undefeated at heavyweight, but then he lost to Jon, but then he was champion at light heavyweight twice. | ||
| You would have to prove that DC is better at heavyweight than he is at light heavyweight. | ||
| And that would be a hard sell. | ||
| I'm talking about pound for pound. | ||
| One of the all-time greats. | ||
| Unquestionably. | ||
| Top three. | ||
| Look, if he goes up and wins, just in terms of statistics alone, he's light heavyweight champion, then he beats the heavyweight champion. | ||
| The only argument against it would be both times he did it was because John was stripped. | ||
| It wasn't because he beat John. | ||
| That's the problem. | ||
| That's a real problem. | ||
| I know. | ||
| That's why you can't put him at number one. | ||
| He's fucking amazing. | ||
| You take away John Jones and he's fucking amazing. | ||
| I mean, you take away John Jones, look what he does to Rumble Johnson twice. | ||
| You know, look what he does to Gustafson. | ||
| Look what he does to everybody. | ||
| The Gustafson fight is a war. | ||
| I know. | ||
| That was a war. | ||
| I think Gustafson is perhaps the most dangerous challenger at 205 right now. | ||
| I think Gustafson, especially if he recovers perfectly from his shoulder surgery, Gustafson, when I saw him fight Glover, I was like, this guy is on another level. | ||
| Just something going on, found it. | ||
| Yeah, any given night, you know, there's kind of, to me, I look at light heavyweight, there's 1A, 1B, and 1C. And it's John at 1A, it's DC at 1B, and then you got Gustin at 1C. After that, it falls off like a motherfucker. | ||
| But those three, any given night could beat each other, I think. | ||
| I think you're right. | ||
| I think it's fascinating that Rumble is not up in there with them. | ||
| If you saw the way Rumble destroyed some of those guys, including Gustafsson, the way Rumble just puts the fucking smash on people, like when he uppercutted Glover into another universe. | ||
| Dude, he's the scariest guy ever, and the fact that he just can't get that off on DC. He's not up there as far as the top three. | ||
| But it's amazing, because you'd be convinced he was. | ||
| Did you hear Rumble's trying to do bodybuilding? | ||
| Did you hear that? | ||
| He's trying to go professional bodybuilding. | ||
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| Well, good luck with the piss test from there on out. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, fighting's gone. | ||
| Yeah, it's over. | ||
| You're going full Bane. | ||
| What he said after the fight was probably the best way to go for him, and I know he's said some different things since then. | ||
| Like he said he was thinking about coming back as a heavyweight, and he said, what fight was it that he said, let me show these guys how to throw an uppercut? | ||
| What fucking fight was it? | ||
| One fight he was tweeting after the fight was over. | ||
| It wasn't Francis over him, right? | ||
| No, it was a light heavyweight fight. | ||
| It was a light heavyweight fight. | ||
| I don't remember what fight it was. | ||
| Bulkham's fight? | ||
| Jesus Christ, it's giant! | ||
| Oh my God! | ||
| Oh, we going sizzler. | ||
| Oh my God! | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| Who's ready to hit the gym? | ||
| He ain't fighting anytime soon. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| He's like, what? | ||
| We don't need a tattoo. | ||
| We're good. | ||
| His fucking carnival bell is going to fly higher than mine. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Ding! | ||
| Woo! | ||
| Toss those weights around. | ||
| That's an interesting career move, though, bodybuilding. | ||
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Pfft. | |
| Well, I know he was going into the weed business, too. | ||
| What he said after the fight, I don't think you could ever negate that. | ||
| What he said that he doesn't really like the fight, he's just really good at it. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| I mean, boy, when a guy says that, he's just laying it all on the table. | ||
| That's the truth, yeah. | ||
| That's who he is. | ||
| I don't want to do it anymore. | ||
| Yeah, I remember we had that thing with the LA Rams. | ||
| I was like, damn, what's he going to do with the Rams? | ||
| People were like, yeah, he's going to play for the Rams. | ||
| And I went on this rant on my show how he's not playing for the Rams. | ||
| And he DMed me. | ||
| He was like, bro, I'm not playing for the Rams, moron. | ||
| He didn't call me a moron. | ||
| That's me saying that. | ||
| But he was like, dude, I'm not playing for the Rams. | ||
| I was consulting for them with some performance stuff as far as working out. | ||
| He said, clearly, I'm not playing running back for the Rams. | ||
| Clearly. | ||
| I didn't know, man. | ||
| Big dude. | ||
| What is that? | ||
| What is he doing? | ||
| Flexing. | ||
| Oh, he's just flexing? | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| He has your boy Cam Hane shirt on. | ||
| He's super... | ||
| Does he? | ||
| What does his shirt say? | ||
| No, I'm saying he has that... | ||
| Cam wears that weird top. | ||
| Cam, we've told you to stop wearing those. | ||
| Yeah, stop cutting your sleeves off, Cam. | ||
| What was the picture above that? | ||
| The one that you just had up there? | ||
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Jack! | |
| Look how big his fucking back is. | ||
| That's just him and his bros, man. | ||
| Look at the size of his back! | ||
| Oh, we balking, baby. | ||
| Dude, come on. | ||
| That's ridiculous. | ||
| That... | ||
| I mean, he's gigantic. | ||
| Bodybuilding is an interesting... | ||
| This is going to sound gay. | ||
| You know who had the greatest back of all time in all of combat sports? | ||
| Of all combat sports? | ||
| Hold on. | ||
| Give me a weight class. | ||
| Evander Holyfield. | ||
| Oh, yes. | ||
| And his traps? | ||
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Dude. | |
| His traps? | ||
| You talking about the angel wings? | ||
| Oh, bro. | ||
| They started at the top of his head. | ||
| It's a fucking call, son. | ||
| Come on, son. | ||
| Most impressive back ever in combat sports? | ||
| Those two fucking peaches hanging up the top. | ||
| Find out when he fought Tyson. | ||
| Evander Holyfield when he fought Tyson. | ||
| Just play a clip of that. | ||
| We'll watch it. | ||
| He finished third or second Olympia? | ||
| He was so dashed. | ||
| And just that caramel skin. | ||
| And just tits. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And he was one of the first guys that figured out how to in court prop. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| Jesus Christ! | ||
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Jesus! | |
| Look at that back. | ||
| He was one of the first guys that figured out how to correctly implement weightlifting training because of Mackie Shilstone. | ||
| That's right, everyone thought it'd make you slower. | ||
| Yeah, and he was one of the first guys that really pulled it off and moved up a weight class. | ||
| He was the cruiserweight champion, has a hard time making 195. He's like, fuck it, we're going up. | ||
| And first couple of fights, I want to say he was like 205, maybe 209. And he never got much higher than... | ||
| 211, 212? | ||
| Yeah, what was the highest he got? | ||
| I want to say like 220. Yeah, somewhere. | ||
| Is that the bite? | ||
| After Tyson bit him? | ||
| That was the saddest shit ever. | ||
| Holyfield overall had a better career than Tyson. | ||
| Oh, for sure. | ||
| 226. So it probably got up to 226. Is that right now? | ||
| That's not his fighting weight. | ||
| By the way, that's when they used to test you with one of them Cracker Jacks rings. | ||
| They would just wave it around you, and if it didn't show... | ||
| Didn't change colors. | ||
| Yeah, I don't know if that motherfucker was... | ||
| He was on everything. | ||
| Everybody was on everything. | ||
| There was no testing. | ||
| Get the fuck out of here with your testing. | ||
| Think if Jon Jones was just back then. | ||
| Oh! | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| The Chuck Liddell days? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Come on, son. | ||
| The Vanderlei Silver Pride days? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, in the early days, the way the best guys would put it is, you never knew who was on anything, because essentially it was an intelligence test, not a drug test. | ||
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Correct. | |
| Because they're only testing you the day of the fight. | ||
| Most of the guys have already cycled off. | ||
| You keep all the benefits for a long period of time, and back then they... | ||
| You know, rudimentary tests. | ||
| They didn't have the same kind of tests they have now. | ||
| Boom! | ||
| Look at the fucking traps on Holyfield! | ||
| Jesus, son! | ||
| He makes Tyson look smooth. | ||
| Oh, the right hand! | ||
| Dude! | ||
| Dude, he fucked Tyson up in this fight. | ||
| I mean, I remember watching this with Kevin James. | ||
| We're in my house at Encino. | ||
| Dude, he's beating the shit out of Tyson. | ||
| How great of a time was that for boxing, bro? | ||
| Did they stop the fight right there, or was that the end of the round? | ||
| That was the end of the round. | ||
| Oh, dude, give me some volume up in that bitch. | ||
| I want to hear this. | ||
| I remember Kevin and I were jumping up and down on the couch, screaming. | ||
| We couldn't believe it. | ||
| We couldn't believe it. | ||
| Everybody thought Tyson was the scariest guy ever, and that the only guy that ever beat him was Buster Douglas, and Evander Holyfield was not the same size. | ||
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He was a smaller guy. | |
| And Evander was coming after him for years. | ||
| He was trying to make it happen forever, if you remember. | ||
| And remember, Evander had those crazy fights with Riddick Bowe, who was an enormous guy. | ||
| Monster. | ||
| Boom, look at this. | ||
| Holyfield, son! | ||
| Boom! | ||
| Look at that right hand! | ||
| It's no disrespect to Tyson, but I have Lennox Lewis and Evander Holyfield ranked pound for pound over him. | ||
| Yeah, people forget Holyfield was a fucking Olympian, man. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| Didn't he win a gold medal? | ||
| Yes. | ||
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Boom! | |
| Oh no, he did win a gold medal. | ||
| He got screwed in the Olympics. | ||
| Look that up to me. | ||
| He got screwed in the Olympics. | ||
| Boom! | ||
| Nobody got screwed like Roy Jones Jr. did. | ||
| Nobody. | ||
| Nobody. | ||
| When he fought that Korean dude in the Olympics, that was one of the worst robberies I've ever seen watching boxing. | ||
| Ah, that Irish kid who's fighting. | ||
| There he goes. | ||
| They just pushed him back out there. | ||
| I mean... | ||
| How hurting is he? | ||
| And Tyson charging forward. | ||
| Dude, you know I just did a podcast with Mike Tyson. | ||
| You know I did a podcast with Mike Tyson? | ||
| He has his own podcast called Bite the Mic. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| How was it? | ||
| Oh, boom. | ||
| Goddamn, dude. | ||
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Look at the body on Evanderholt. | |
| First team all bod. | ||
| Well, Tyson just doesn't look physically the same as he did, like, just coming out of the pokey. | ||
| Like, he just does not have the same build. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| Stop the fight. | ||
| I'll tell you what, you want a fight that was just as good. | ||
| Anthony Joshua Klitschko, man. | ||
| I was jumping on my feet. | ||
| That was one of the best heavyweight fights ever. | ||
| Ever. | ||
| For me, it was so much fun, man. | ||
| Klitschko gets dropped, it looks like he's out, and then he comes back and drops Joshua, and it looks like Joshua's out, and then Joshua comes back and puts him away later. | ||
| Now you've got Anthony and Joshua fighting Parker, who's a New Zealand champ, who's a monster, undefeated. | ||
| And then you've got Wilder fighting Luis Ortiz, and then the winners fight! | ||
| And hopefully it's Wilder vs. | ||
| Joshua Wimbledy, 90,000, son. | ||
| Ortiz is a tough fight for anybody, man. | ||
| That guy is really good. | ||
| You think so? | ||
| Yeah, I do. | ||
| You think Wilder walks through him? | ||
| I do. | ||
| I think he stops him. | ||
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Wow. | |
| I know. | ||
| Victor Ortiz? | ||
| I know. | ||
| The Cuban Olympian boxer? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Really? | |
| What makes you think that? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I'm just not... | ||
| You're a Showtime fanboy. | ||
| Don't lie. | ||
| Well, they're both Showtime. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| They're both Showtime. | ||
| Ortiz is older, and he did piss hot. | ||
| He pissed hot. | ||
| They're supposed to fight... | ||
| Which is hard to do. | ||
| Hard to do in boxing. | ||
| You've got to be trying. | ||
| Piss hot. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| You look at his level of competition. | ||
| Wilder's 38-0 with 37 knockouts. | ||
| Did they maybe hit him with a surprise test? | ||
| The thing he tests hot for, he had a prescription. | ||
| It was a little muddy, but he's tested hot before. | ||
| It was a prescription for testosterone, wasn't it? | ||
| Some weird shit. | ||
| Deontay Wilder is the favorite. | ||
| Minus 235 to Luis Ortiz, 185. Well, you know what, man? | ||
| When you see odds like that, you've got to think maybe they know something. | ||
| And maybe Ortiz is, you know... | ||
| Wilder's a motherfucker. | ||
| We don't know his real age, you know, that Cuban age. | ||
| He might be 55 for all we know. | ||
| Oh, that's right. | ||
| But also Wilder's a... | ||
| I'm telling you, man. | ||
| He's a motherfucker. | ||
| He's athletic. | ||
| He's long. | ||
| Now he has all this confidence. | ||
| The only guy that not to get knocked out, Stavern, he walked through in the first round, put his hands down. | ||
| Yeah, I saw that. | ||
| That was crazy. | ||
| He's nuts, man. | ||
| That was crazy. | ||
| You got Anthony Joshua, who's just the biggest thing right now. | ||
| He's fighting Parker. | ||
| It's not a walk in the park either. | ||
| There's people like... | ||
| Oh, here it is. | ||
| There's a Stavern fight. | ||
| Stavern's never been knocked out, by the way. | ||
| Show that again. | ||
| Missed it. | ||
| I want to see this. | ||
| Boom! | ||
| His right hand is something special, man. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He fights long, too. | ||
| He does fight long. | ||
| He hits hard, but I just think, like, Anthony Joshua is not this guy. | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| I mean, he's just not. | ||
| No. | ||
| Stavern's a good fighter. | ||
| He's a tough guy, but Anthony Joshua is a totally different level. | ||
| He's an Olympic gold medalist in the heavyweight division. | ||
| He's a fucking super stud athlete. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, this guy's out of it, and... | ||
| Wilder puts on a show and beats the shit out of him, and that's all good. | ||
| And it was a great win for him. | ||
| Great victory. | ||
| Did you see Joshua's last fight, though? | ||
| He took it on short notice because the guy didn't make the weight. | ||
| I didn't watch. | ||
| He didn't look great. | ||
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Really? | |
| It was last second. | ||
| He fought this guy not up to his level, and it went to a decision. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| Yeah, it wasn't a great fight. | ||
| I have that one on my DVR, and I never got around to it. | ||
| Don't get around to it. | ||
| Don't get around you. | ||
| No, it's a waste of time. | ||
| No, it's like Joshua took the night off for the 90,000 people. | ||
| Do you think that he did that because he wasn't prepared? | ||
| Because he took it on short notice? | ||
| No, I think he was just like, I could beat this guy in my sleep. | ||
| I don't want to risk a lot. | ||
| Oh, so he didn't try hard? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Oh, wow. | |
| Interesting. | ||
| He didn't push the gas on. | ||
| Wilder really doesn't have off nights. | ||
| He's trying to smoke everyone. | ||
| His 37 knockouts, for God's sakes. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| Interesting fight. | ||
| Well, we know that Wilder can hit hard, and we know that Joshua can get tagged and dropped and recover. | ||
| It's such a fun fight for heavyweight. | ||
| I just want both of them to... | ||
| Klitschko is just so much more technical and classic in his movements. | ||
| Oh, Klitschko looked great, man. | ||
| Especially not Anthony Joshua. | ||
| He's moving like a motherfucker. | ||
| He looked great. | ||
| I always wanted to see Klitschko versus Wilder. | ||
| I thought that would be a really interesting fight. | ||
| I know, but he retired. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, good for him. | ||
| He fought for a long-ass time. | ||
| Oh, dude. | ||
| One of the greats. | ||
| But Wilder versus Joshua, if both of them win, you get that fight... | ||
| Oh, son. | ||
| Damn. | ||
| Heavyweight boxing's good right now. | ||
| And don't forget Tyson Fury's like, let's do it. | ||
| I'm ready. | ||
| I'm all good. | ||
| I'm not mentally unstable anymore. | ||
| Let's do this. | ||
| How'd that happen? | ||
| How'd he clean it up? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| He got his life together, started working out, got sanctioned to fight again. | ||
| And he even told Anthony Joshua, he's like, I don't need a warm-up. | ||
| I'll beat you right now. | ||
| And I got guys who train in his gym and he goes, he came in, whatever, he's like 400 pounds, just beating the shit out of everyone. | ||
| Just walked in and just beating the fuck out of everybody. | ||
| Freak, man. | ||
| I'm such a big Tyson Fury fan, man. | ||
| Did you see the video of him hitting mitts recently? | ||
| Oh, no, I haven't. | ||
| Dude, he's really fast. | ||
| He's a freak, man. | ||
| Like, really fast. | ||
| He's a freak. | ||
| Like, he throws a right hand. | ||
| Like, look at this. | ||
| This is not the video that I saw, though. | ||
| The video that I saw, but this is good, too. | ||
| The video that I saw was him throwing a jab at a right hand and then ducking up and around behind a guy. | ||
| Or under and around behind a guy like that. | ||
| The little sidestep duck that he does. | ||
| He's like 6'8", bro. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He's huge, man. | ||
| And his angles are so awkward. | ||
| Klitsch didn't know what to do with him. | ||
| No one did. | ||
| Klitschko was super confused. | ||
| He makes it an ugly fight. | ||
| I think for him, I think, you know, Joshua's a nightmare. | ||
| For Wilder, he's a nightmare. | ||
| Just because you can't duplicate it. | ||
| He's a little fat right here. | ||
| I mean, he's definitely got to keep dropping weight. | ||
| But how long ago was that one? | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| 2007, November. | ||
| Look at that fucking head movement, son. | ||
| He's a fucking skilled boxer. | ||
| The problem is a guy like him is he starts singing songs after fights and all the crazy shit that he does and you just think he's a loon. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's a gypsy. | ||
| You gotta realize, like, he's super skillful. | ||
| Oh, world class. | ||
| What he can do is very skillful. | ||
| I mean, Klitschko didn't know what the fuck to do in that fight. | ||
| No, Klitschko was like, what? | ||
| He was hesitant because he didn't want to throw your right hand because he's doing these awkward angles. | ||
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He was getting popped, too. | |
| He was getting popped. | ||
| And he realized, like, this guy might fuck me up. | ||
| That's why he's a nightmare for Joshua and Wilder. | ||
| He's my dark horse because you don't know how to fight him, man. | ||
| Dark horse. | ||
| If he gets his shit together, he gets some problems. | ||
| Okay, but why did he have, like, psychological problems? | ||
| What happened? | ||
| I just think, you know, he's mentally unstable a little bit, and he goes into this depression, and he was world champion, and when he got there, he didn't know what to do. | ||
| He thought it was going to cure all his shit. | ||
| But he never even defended the title. | ||
| I know. | ||
| He just gave it up. | ||
| I know. | ||
| That's what's crazy. | ||
| He just got fat and happy. | ||
| What's that? | ||
| Is it that? | ||
| No, this is pretty quick, too. | ||
| It's him. | ||
| There's a guy holding pads for him, and he just doesn't matter. | ||
| I mean, we're getting the sense of it. | ||
| Yeah, he's a freak. | ||
| He's just a really good fighter. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| I'm excited about that. | ||
| I'm excited about a lot of shit, man. | ||
| A lot of shit's going on. | ||
| You got Canelo, Triple G coming back. | ||
| That's very exciting. | ||
| That's Cinco de Mayo. | ||
| They had to do that Cinco de Mayo. | ||
| How do you not do that one Cinco de Mayo? | ||
| You gotta do it. | ||
| I mean, that's just a no-brainer. | ||
| You could have bet the house on that fight being Cinco de Mayo. | ||
| Vegas had the odds. | ||
| Would it be the Saturday of Cinco de Mayo weekend? | ||
| Oh, yes. | ||
| It's actually on Saturday, too, this year, I think. | ||
| Oh! | ||
| Good googly. | ||
| It's a good time to be a fight fan, son. | ||
| In boxing and fight in MMA. And that's a fight where Canelo has a lot to prove, right? | ||
| A lot of people thought he lost the fight. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| Including me. | ||
| Got that shady drawl. | ||
| Dude, I thought it was pretty clear. | ||
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Me too. | |
| I thought it was pretty clear. | ||
| I told you it was going to happen. | ||
| You did. | ||
| You said it straight up before anything happened. | ||
| You said, dude, he is going to have to knock him out to win a decision. | ||
| Shadiness, son. | ||
| Canelo in Vegas? | ||
| I was like, you think? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| You know you got Roy versus Metro Drill on this weekend. | ||
| This weekend, right? | ||
| Friday night, right? | ||
| Is it Friday or Saturday? | ||
| I think it's Saturday, right? | ||
| Yeah, Saturday. | ||
| And then Cowboys fighting Sunday, right? | ||
| Yes, it's a good-ass weekend. | ||
| Then you also got Mikey Garcia fighting. | ||
| For Showtime. | ||
|
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Ooh. | |
| Who's he fighting? | ||
| Rios. | ||
| I'm actually going out there to shoot some stuff for Showtime. | ||
|
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Friday night. | |
| Friday night. | ||
|
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Bellator Friday night. | |
| Sick. | ||
| Hopefully I'm home in time. | ||
| When you say Rios, Brandon Rios? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
|
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Really? | |
| Yeah, it's a good fight. | ||
| I mean, it's not, you know. | ||
| Brandon Rios is a tough dude. | ||
| Hell yeah, he is. | ||
| That's an interesting fight. | ||
| Wow, that's a good boxing match. | ||
| Merit Rios versus Mike Alvarado. | ||
| You know those fights? | ||
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Yes, chaos. | |
| Mike Alvarado's from Denver. | ||
| Yeah, Mike Alvarado. | ||
| He's another John Jones kind of story. | ||
| Blood and guts type character. | ||
| Wildcat. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Denver legend. | ||
| You know, I'm really glad that all this bullshit has died down with boxing versus MMA. You can like both of them now. | ||
| You can. | ||
| I deal with it all the time because of what I'm doing. | ||
| This isn't a weird segue. | ||
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Do you deal with it? | |
| I deal with it all the time. | ||
| I can't officially announce it. | ||
| There's an announcement coming out probably next Friday. | ||
| It's a teaser, folks. | ||
| I got my own show on Showtime. | ||
| But it does just that. | ||
| It's boxing, it's fighting, it's UFC, Bellator, Showtime, HBO. There's no agenda. | ||
| It's just a variety, fun show for fight fans, entertainment fans. | ||
| That's fucking awesome, man. | ||
| Yeah, man, I'm excited. | ||
| That's awesome. | ||
| But you do see that, though? | ||
| Boxers don't like MMA, MMA doesn't like boxers. | ||
| Yeah, that's what gave me the idea for the show when I pitched the show, because when I was covering the Conor McGregor stuff, I'd have these boxing heads coming in like, what are you talking about, man? | ||
| Why can't I get out of here? | ||
| Stay in the cage, MMA. This is the sweet science. | ||
| I'm like, well, I like both, though, man. | ||
| I was a Golden Globes boxer. | ||
| I like boxing, too. | ||
| Why does it matter? | ||
| That's like saying I can't watch the NFL and watch the NBA. What the fuck are you talking about? | ||
| I like both. | ||
| They get tribal. | ||
| Everybody gets weird. | ||
| Like, this is team boxing. | ||
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We're team MMA. It's very strange, man. | |
| It's stupid, man. | ||
| There was a thing like that with wrestlers and jiu-jitsu people. | ||
| Yeah, for a long time. | ||
| I mean, when Ensign Inouye armbarred Royce Alger in the UFC and got him and they ran backstage, Egan Inouye yells out, Fuck wrestling! | ||
| It's like... | ||
| How weird is that? | ||
| It was fun! | ||
| Because there was, look, there's a lot of shit talking going on between all the camps, and Royce Alger, who was a top of the food chain American wrestler, they thought he was just going to run in and storm the fucking UFC and start smashing people. | ||
| And they even said, in that fight, he said, it's time to bring in the A-team. | ||
| That's what he said, and it's like a little pre-fight thing. | ||
| And Ensign Inouye was like, yeah. | ||
| You guys know about arm bars? | ||
| Because I fucking sure do. | ||
| And Ensign caught him in an arm bar. | ||
| Quick. | ||
| See if you can find that. | ||
| Ensign Inouye versus Royce Alger. | ||
| It's hoist, but with an R, because he's an American cat. | ||
| And then he lost to, what was that dude? | ||
| The Wolf? | ||
| That dude that called himself the Wolf? | ||
| Jackson? | ||
| God damn it. | ||
| Great name, though. | ||
| The Wolf Jackson. | ||
| Those tribes are so weird though, man. | ||
| Us versus them. | ||
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It's very strange. | |
| Yeah, it's stupid. | ||
| You don't have to pick one. | ||
| You know you can DVR the boxing fight and watch the UFC fight. | ||
| You can watch all of it. | ||
| They're completely different. | ||
| They are completely different and there's some things you can do in boxing that you just cannot do in MMA. You can't get away. | ||
| There it is. | ||
| Enson Inouye. | ||
| Royce Alger. | ||
| Goddamn, man. | ||
| Dude, look, they had the old fucking, the guy that looked like Boss Rootin' on the floor. | ||
| Like, the whole deal, dude. | ||
| And these are the early days. | ||
| So this was in 1997, and I was there. | ||
| I don't know if it was in Denver, man. | ||
| That's Denver, brother. | ||
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Are you sure? | |
| It's 1997? | ||
| Are you sure? | ||
| I bet you it is. | ||
| I don't know if I went to a UFC in Denver. | ||
| That's Denver. | ||
| Are you sure? | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I feel like it. | ||
| It might have been. | ||
| Type in UFC 13, Jamie. | ||
| It was the second UFC that I worked. | ||
| The first one that I worked was in Dothan, Alabama. | ||
| And you don't remember where this one was? | ||
| I do not remember where that one was. | ||
| I don't know, I think it's Denver. | ||
| But a lot of them went south. | ||
| Augusta, Georgia. | ||
| Augusta, there you go. | ||
| Boom. | ||
| So this one is, fuck man, 97, yeah. | ||
| And so Royce Alger takes him down immediately. | ||
| And Ensign went on to submit a lot of guys, including, he submitted Randy fucking Couture. | ||
| So stop and think of this. | ||
| This is a fight at, shit, I don't know what weight they're fighting at. | ||
| It's just 200 pounds? | ||
| But Ensign went on to shoot. | ||
| Look at Bruce, handsome bastard. | ||
| 97. Let me hear this. | ||
| Listen to this. | ||
|
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Wow. | |
| Even then he had beautiful salt and pepper hair. | ||
| Dude, look at those traps, son. | ||
| Ensign was jacked. | ||
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Jacked. | |
| Omiya, Japan, 30. How jacked he was? | ||
| Damn! | ||
| He was 30 then? | ||
| Is that what it says? | ||
| He was already really experienced. | ||
| He's also real experienced and had a fucking savage mindset. | ||
| Look how Jack Denson is! | ||
| Jesus! | ||
| Just skip ahead to the actual fight itself. | ||
| He was even good back then, but how much better is he now? | ||
| Well, now he just gets fucking psychotic. | ||
| Back it up a little bit. | ||
| He gets fucking psychotic. | ||
| Oh my god, look at this. | ||
| You gotta back it up a little bit. | ||
| Are you ready? | ||
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Let's get it on. | |
| John McCartney looking slim. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Ensign moving forward. | ||
| Roy Salger shoots immediately. | ||
| Ensign goes to take his back. | ||
| Look at the guillotine attempt here. | ||
| Crucifix attempt here. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Switches it over. | ||
| Inverted? | ||
| No, he goes for the other arm. | ||
| Watch this. | ||
| Here it is. | ||
| Oh, this poor guy has no idea. | ||
| Yep, he just didn't know what to do. | ||
| Oh, he slipped out of that one. | ||
| And he's got wrist tape on. | ||
| He doesn't have anything that covers his knuckles. | ||
| Ensign doesn't. | ||
| But Algert does. | ||
| So it's smart for Ensign if he was going to get a choke or something like that. | ||
| These are the days you didn't have to have anything. | ||
| Royce is wearing shoes. | ||
| Look, he's got some fucking wrestling shoes on. | ||
| Remember guys are scared of wrestling shoes because of heel hooks. | ||
| Heel hooks. | ||
| You get a grip on the heel. | ||
| Yeah, that was a big deal, right? | ||
| Like, if you were going to fight in pride, boy, you got to be real careful of those fucking heel hooks. | ||
| Especially if you're fighting something like Josh Barnett. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| Depending on who you're fighting. | ||
| If you're fighting for doom and pride, you're going to be in some trouble. | ||
| Here it is. | ||
| He catches him from here. | ||
| Here it comes. | ||
| Setting it up. | ||
| And he's punching with bare knuckle to the eyes and the face. | ||
| It's a totally different feel, right? | ||
| It's a different experience. | ||
| Completely different. | ||
| I'm a fucking giant proponent for bare knuckle. | ||
| I really think this should go to bare knuckle. | ||
| You just can't. | ||
| Why not? | ||
| We're past that now. | ||
| We're past that. | ||
| But you're not, because the fingers are all loose. | ||
| Look, you saw this fight this weekend with the eye gouges? | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Let's talk about that. | ||
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Look at this. | |
| Woo! | ||
| Woo! | ||
| There it goes, baby! | ||
| Oh, that's the extension. | ||
| He just has no idea how to get out of it either. | ||
| This is right here. | ||
| This is fucksville. | ||
| That's fucksville. | ||
| Tap, tap, tap. | ||
| Super fucksville. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| That's a fucked up arm. | ||
| Look, his arm's fucked up. | ||
| Probably broken. | ||
| Probably broken. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's intense shit. | ||
| How jacked is that, dude? | ||
| Jacked. | ||
| Why not? | ||
| He's armbar and Randy fucking Couture. | ||
| Back in the day. | ||
| Yeah, I remember when he threw these nasty leg kicks from the butt scoot position. | ||
| It's the first time I ever saw somebody throw real good leg kicks from the butt scoot position. | ||
| Did you ever see that fight? | ||
| Because Randy was standing over him. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But dude, he would skip forward on his hand and slam that leg. | ||
| Like real power in the leg kicks, like dangerous leg kicks, but not thrusts, like round kicks. | ||
| Yeah, he would butt scoot forward and roundhouse kick him in the legs, and it's like, whoa, this is dangerous. | ||
| What was your take on that Matthews-Ling Jing fight? | ||
| Look, dude, that's me. | ||
| Look at my cute little face. | ||
| Those fucking eye gouges are bullshit, man. | ||
| They are. | ||
| My only thing with that, and I'm not condoning it, it is cheap, but it's like... | ||
| I don't know if you knew what he was poking, you know, but when the oxygen to your brain is getting cut off... | ||
| I get that, but you've got to resist. | ||
| You can't let a guy get away with that. | ||
| He'll do it again. | ||
| That's the ref. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But as a fighter, it's like, dude, I need to live a fight another day. | ||
| Holy fuck. | ||
| Yeah, but you don't do that way. | ||
| You tap. | ||
| That's what tapping's all about. | ||
| It's shady for sure. | ||
| It's straight up cheating. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| It's not just shady. | ||
| It's fucking cheating. | ||
| And they should take points away from him. | ||
| He should be sanctioned. | ||
| They should tell him, if this ever happens again, if we ever think that you're going to do this again, we're going to kick you out of the league. | ||
| They didn't even give We're going to kick it out of the UFC. You can't do that. | ||
| They did nothing. | ||
| Can't gouge someone's eyes when they're choking you. | ||
| They did nothing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, maybe it happened quicker than I thought. | ||
| Maybe if I watched it again. | ||
| Fuck's sakes, man. | ||
| I mean, it felt like the eyes were in there. | ||
| Let's watch it real quick. | ||
| Because it felt to me like the fingers were in there for long enough for him to know the fingers were in there. | ||
| Did you hear Jake Matthews about it? | ||
| I get it, man. | ||
| It's fight or flight, and you're just trying to do anything you can not to tap, and you do this thing. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| I think most fighters can understand how it happens. | ||
| I had a coach, Lisa Bongo, go, dude, you get kind of submission, you're not guilty, and you take your finger, you rub it right up in his asshole. | ||
| He goes, because they might take a point away, but you live to fight another round. | ||
| You're not going to get tapped out. | ||
| Asshole poking. | ||
| Yeah, check that oil, son. | ||
| Instead of tapping out. | ||
| Knuckle deep. | ||
| You know, I tell you who impressed me the most this weekend? | ||
| Stylebender. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Dude, that was some next-level shit. | ||
| There were some great fights, man. | ||
| Stylebender put on a show, man. | ||
| I've been telling people about him for a long time, man. | ||
| There was a lot of guys who could get a fight of the night, too. | ||
| I thought, obviously, you all looked great. | ||
| Matthews looked fucking unbelievable. | ||
| Pedro looked amazing. | ||
| Yeah, there's some amazing fights. | ||
| It was very good. | ||
| The whole night. | ||
| Stylebender's a fucking handful for everybody. | ||
| Everybody. | ||
| Everybody. | ||
| There's a lot of dudes practicing their double legs now. | ||
| Dude, you know who's kind of dropped the ball? | ||
| You know who's kind of dropped the ball? | ||
| Again, I'm on this English bandwagon right now on the train. | ||
| It's Darren Till. | ||
| The hype for him. | ||
| They haven't set him up, man. | ||
| He's waiting. | ||
| There's all this hype, and now it's like the public's like, oh, all right. | ||
| Dude, let me tell you something. | ||
| He's going to be even better. | ||
| When they see him again, he's going to be better. | ||
| He's going to be better, but we have short memories. | ||
| The public has short memories. | ||
| They'll remember. | ||
| You've got to book him, man. | ||
| They'll remember. | ||
| Fucking book him a fight. | ||
| Nobody wants that. | ||
| Gunnar Nelson does. | ||
| Does he? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's what they're going to do. | ||
| That's the fight. | ||
| They booked it, right? | ||
| When is that for? | ||
| No, they want to. | ||
| I thought he was booked. | ||
| I thought they were trying to do it in London, but for whatever reason it didn't happen. | ||
| Oh, maybe somebody got injured. | ||
| They announced the London card without a headline. | ||
| You could have had Darren Till headline that. | ||
| I don't know why that's not happening. | ||
| Well, he can't headline after one fight. | ||
| He could headline Liverpool. | ||
| You're talking about a fight night? | ||
| A fight night. | ||
| Liverpool, okay. | ||
| Oh, he's from? | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| He's a big name out there. | ||
| Okay, a fight night. | ||
| But I mean, I think the dude should be pay-per-view. | ||
| They should make that motherfucker a star. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| Put him on a big pay-per-view card, that guy's a star. | ||
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Put him on Fox? | |
| Put him on Fox? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| You got Jeremy Stephens versus Emmett. | ||
| Dude, Jeremy Stephens. | ||
| Goddamn, I'm enjoying watching Jeremy Stephens. | ||
| Me too, but if you have Stephens versus Emmett as the headliner, you can fucking put Darren Till as the headliner. | ||
| Here it is. | ||
| Boom. | ||
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I think it's in here. | |
| I couldn't find a video of it. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| He hit him with the right hand. | ||
| He hurt him. | ||
| That was a great fight, man. | ||
| This is a takedown. | ||
| Here it is. | ||
| We'll just count. | ||
| So three, four, five, six, seven, eight. | ||
| It's in slow motion, but he is just digging in that dude's eyes. | ||
| Yeah, there's no question. | ||
| No question about it. | ||
| They dropped the ball on that. | ||
| That's not Goddard. | ||
| Whoever it is, the referee fucked up. | ||
| That ref has some tits. | ||
| Here's the thing. | ||
| We have the video of it. | ||
| The UFC should do something. | ||
| Someone should do something in the Athletic Commission. | ||
| Someone should do something, even maybe in Nevada. | ||
| You've got to look at that and go, hey, man, you can't ever do this again. | ||
| And we have to fine you, and we have to say, if you ever do this again, you should be suspended. | ||
| And if you ever do this again, you're out. | ||
| You can't gouge someone's eyes. | ||
| They lose their fucking vision. | ||
| One thing, an accidental guy, we can't have any leniency whatsoever towards intentional eye gouging. | ||
| Zero. | ||
| What about John Jones and striking? | ||
| I don't know if it's intentional. | ||
| I mean, look, he's definitely putting his hand up. | ||
| If you're poking dudes in the fucking eyes, though. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| Look, I'm a one-point proponent. | ||
| I think every time an eye poke happens, whether it's intentional or not, take away a point. | ||
| Groin two. | ||
| I think it's a good move. | ||
| I think every time that happens, we don't go, hey, watch the groin kicks, because you're changing the dynamics of that fighter. | ||
| You've been kicked in the nuts, you get sick to your stomach, now trying to fight. | ||
| Look at his eyes. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| There's literally no warnings. | ||
| If you do it, there's a point. | ||
| Whether it's intentional or not, you should be getting a point taken away. | ||
| Eye gouges like that, I think is grounds for disqualification. | ||
| I just don't think you can allow any room for that because guys are going to get fucking blinded. | ||
| Guys are going to get blinded. | ||
| I mean, it could happen. | ||
| And if some, most guys are completely ethical and they would never think of doing this, but if a guy wanted to, you start poking people in the eye on purpose. | ||
| I mean, Roberto Duran did that with Davey Moore. | ||
| He thumbed him. | ||
| Blah! | ||
| I'm not saying he did it on purpose. | ||
| Travis is winning that round, winning the fight, and he gets poked in the eye and he can't see. | ||
| It's a different dynamic. | ||
| He loses the fight. | ||
| It's happened in many, many fights. | ||
| Thank God Matthews won. | ||
| But I think there should be no tolerance if it happens. | ||
| Even if you didn't mean to, we take a point. | ||
| Kick to the nuts, we take a point. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| I think kicking the nuts, first of all, we should really make sure that the guys are wearing either a Thai steel cup or some... | ||
| Well, a Thai steel cup is like... | ||
| That probably shouldn't be allowed to wear. | ||
| Because then that's worse than kicking a bone. | ||
| It's a problem with armbars, right? | ||
| As a fulcrum. | ||
| It gives you extra leverage. | ||
| But I don't think they stop people from wearing it. | ||
| Like Kenny Florian, that's what he used to wear. | ||
| That's old school, but yeah. | ||
| But that, look, dude, if you can catch someone... | ||
| If Damien Maia puts on a steel cup, you're in trouble. | ||
| Fuck yeah, man. | ||
| No shit, right? | ||
| But those things break sometimes, those cords. | ||
| Oh, Michael Bisping, remember? | ||
| Who was he fighting when his fucking cup broke? | ||
| Was that Anderson? | ||
| Was it GSP? Or was it Anderson? | ||
| GSP. He had to stuff it in his underwear, and it was bouncing around in his cocking balls. | ||
| That's not what you want. | ||
| No, you don't need that look. | ||
| No, you don't want that in your life. | ||
| That steel cup, just loosely banging around against your balls, hoping. | ||
| Thank goodness Jake won that fight. | ||
| There's no controversy. | ||
| Which fight? | ||
| With the eye pokes. | ||
| Jake Matthews. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| If he didn't win that fight, then he got a problem. | ||
| I was thinking of Jake Shields when he fought Husamar Palaharis. | ||
| Remember that? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That was horrible. | ||
| Horrible incident of eye poking. | ||
| There should be no warnings. | ||
| No tolerance. | ||
| No tolerance. | ||
| I think if you tell John, listen, you touch his eyes, man, we're taking points, he's going to close his hands. | ||
| So he's going to be way more cautious. | ||
| Right. | ||
| If you've got a free ride to just keep your hand out like that and push guys off by getting your fingers deep in their eyeballs, which many guys have done inadvertently. | ||
| But if you know for a fact if you do that, you're going to take a point away, you're going to close your fist up 100% of the time. | ||
| But also, if it happens more than once, you've got a problem. | ||
| We're not saying you're doing it on purpose, but your style is on purpose. | ||
| It's a problem. | ||
| For Jin Ling, I get why he was like, what, fight, fight, and he's trying to get out of it, I get that. | ||
| The heat of the moment, I'm giving him that, but you should still take a point away. | ||
| There should be zero tolerance. | ||
| Why is that so hard to figure out? | ||
| When you're doing that, you know you're cheating. | ||
| When you're doing that trying to get out, you're supposed to tap. | ||
| You know. | ||
| You either tap or you don't tap. | ||
| But if he got out of that headlock, or that geetie rather, but if he got out of it because the eye poke, if the eye poke kept him somehow or another from hanging on longer, that's fucked up and it's cheating. | ||
| It's fucked up. | ||
| Dude, put on Stylebender's fight. | ||
| See if you can find Stylebender. | ||
| Stylebender, man. | ||
| Don't you think with the UFC and I know it's it's sanctioned by state-to-state and when you know with like Eve Levine and Amaza Mario Yamasaki where Dana's like he's never we don't want him refereeing ever again and they don't have a lot of that power I almost feel like the UFC needs to start maybe get away. | ||
| It's gonna be a fucking nightmare So it's a long path to go down, but dealing with these commissions that they almost have too much power You know I'm saying Well, in some ways I could see that, but in other ways I could see how you wouldn't want to give the power to the organization. | ||
| You have to give it to the sanctioning bodies that are in the states. | ||
| But they all have to catch up. | ||
| Look, it's a fairly recent thing. | ||
| If you think about the amount of decades they've been doing baseball and football. | ||
| I mean, MMA. We're using the boxing commissions. | ||
| That's the thing. | ||
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| And a lot of these commissions are not that experienced with MMA. We saw that with New York when we first started doing it in New York. | ||
| Good God, did we ever. | ||
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| I mean, they just legalized it and they brought it in. | ||
| There's a lot of guys that were local. | ||
| They just didn't really, they weren't that good at it. | ||
| Took a while. | ||
| I almost feel like if the UFC had, you know, the performance center, if they had a judging center, a referee center, and they kind of built their own, then sent them out to the commission. | ||
| That's a good idea. | ||
| That's a smart idea. | ||
| But the problem is, the question would be, are they independent? | ||
| You know, you have to be independent, right? | ||
| So, like, Dana White has got to be able to publicly shit on you, but you got to be able to keep that from getting you fired. | ||
| They're still independent. | ||
| I'm just saying the UFC because judging is such a big factor in our sport. | ||
| Judging is different than refereeing, right? | ||
| Completely. | ||
| An even bigger problem, perhaps. | ||
| Way bigger problem. | ||
| Yeah, the referees seem to have more training and know what they're doing. | ||
| Thank God. | ||
| There's some judging that you just go, what? | ||
| Horrible. | ||
| What in the fuck? | ||
| I'm saying reffing and judging because it really impacts the sport. | ||
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| He said, all right, we're going to put a little money into this. | ||
| We're going to train you guys on the sport and then put you out to the commissions where your own body's sanctioned body. | ||
| You're a stylebender. | ||
| Versus Wilkinson. | ||
| You know he fought 20 times in a year? | ||
| You know that? | ||
| 20 times in a year in Japan or some shit. | ||
| He's so slick. | ||
| He reminds me of Michael Ben and Page a little bit. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| No, I don't think so, man. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| I'm saying as far as his style and his demeanor. | ||
| Not as far as the weirdness. | ||
| He's much more classic than Page. | ||
| Page is like a wild, more of a karate sport point fighter who has ridiculous power. | ||
| But with Israel, it's just vicious, technical striking. | ||
| I like his movement. | ||
| He chops at you. | ||
| He knows what you're doing before you're doing it. | ||
| And he's doing a lot of feints, man. | ||
| See that? | ||
| See that? | ||
| Do you see that? | ||
| You see that fake with the right leg and then the jab pops? | ||
| One, two? | ||
| Dude, that's some high-level shit. | ||
| But look how he goes from southpaw to orthodox. | ||
| Oh yeah, back and forth, constantly. | ||
| He reminds me, and again, he's not as loosey and dynamic as Michael Van and Page, but his movement and a lot of the angles that he's using remind me of Michael Page. | ||
| But he has better wrestling, better grappling, better takedown defense. | ||
| Well, the big thing is his striking is pure like Muay Thai. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| Like when you're watching the way he's moving. | ||
| Kind of. | ||
| He uses some Muay Thai. | ||
| He'll use some karate stance. | ||
| He's very fluid. | ||
| But look at that fucking knee. | ||
| Dude, this is some high-level shit. | ||
| And this guy just wants to take him down, too, and he's a nightmare to deal with. | ||
| He threw this fucking fake kick and then popped the jab in with zero... | ||
| There's no wind-up. | ||
| You know, there's no telegraphing at all. | ||
| Everything's firing in straight and clean. | ||
| And if he can keep these guys off him, in terms of his takedown defense, he's a dangerous guy. | ||
| His takedown defense looks pretty damn good to me. | ||
| What did he weigh in at? | ||
| He's a perfect mental weight because he's not cutting a ton of weight. | ||
| Did he weigh 186 or did he weigh 185? | ||
| Did he take advantage of that extra pound? | ||
| That's where things get interesting. | ||
| That's not a crazy cut for him, though. | ||
| Well, if it's not a crazy cut for him, god damn, dude. | ||
| I mean, this fucking guy. | ||
| Look at this takedown defense, though. | ||
| It's pretty impressive. | ||
| It's fucking legit. | ||
| But he's fighting a guy he has already fucked up. | ||
| But that guy in the first round was trying the exact same shit, though. | ||
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| Could not keep him down. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| You know what I'm saying, how loose he is? | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Look at that knee, dude. | ||
| He's a monster. | ||
| It's just the combinations. | ||
| What he's doing is just taking this guy apart. | ||
| He's faking, he's moving, and it's all super technical. | ||
| Like there, look at this man. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| The guy moves towards him and he backs up perfectly and then punishes him more. | ||
| And I like that he's a seasoned vet when you look at his record and what they're trying to do to him in Japan in these horrible matchups. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| He's gonna be a problem. | ||
| He's gonna be a problem for everybody. | ||
| He has confidence. | ||
| And they go, who do you want to fight? | ||
| He goes, I don't care, man. | ||
| I'll beat all these guys. | ||
| Whoever wants to come get it, let me know. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I've been talking to him for years, man. | ||
| When he first started fighting in China, I started talking to him on Instagram. | ||
| I'm like, when are you thinking about coming into the UFC? And he's like, I'm in no rush. | ||
| I'll come in when I'm ready. | ||
| He's fucking ready. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I met him at a UFC maybe three years ago, maybe four. | ||
| This guy is beating up. | ||
| This is just punishment. | ||
| The referee should stop this. | ||
| There's so many good fights for him at middleweight, too, man. | ||
| You look at middleweight, stop the fucking fight. | ||
| Yeah, that's enough. | ||
| He's trying, man. | ||
| I know, but still. | ||
| The dude's trying, but he's getting fucked up. | ||
| Like that heavyweight fight? | ||
| First of all, the guy who's fighting had the biggest head I've ever seen. | ||
| He just would not leave. | ||
| Dude, they just stopped this fight. | ||
| He looked like a bad guy from True Lies. | ||
| He would not go away. | ||
| Yeah, stop that fight. | ||
| The dude just collapsed. | ||
| I mean... | ||
| Look, he goes, eh, whatever. | ||
| He's like, eh, I did all right. | ||
| And he gave himself, I think, a C-. | ||
| That performance, C-. | ||
| Well, because he's that good. | ||
| That's no joke, man. | ||
| When you bring up his record, Jamie... | ||
| He wants everybody to see. | ||
| He's a nightmare, man. | ||
| You know, he just got knocked out like last year in a kickboxing match in Brazil. | ||
| He was talking about it like real openly online about, well, that's interesting. | ||
| It's the first time I've ever been knocked out. | ||
| You know, it's interesting. | ||
| The way he talked about it, the way he handled it, I was like, wow, this guy's got a very healthy outlook. | ||
| Did you hear Gates talking about getting knocked out? | ||
| He loves it. | ||
| Yeah, he said it was the greatest thing that ever happened to him. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| So 12-0 in MMA. Powerful New Zealand on the map. | ||
| 12-0 in MMA. And if you bring up his kickboxing record, I want to find out who the dude was that beat him. | ||
| I don't even know what organization it was. | ||
| I want to say it was some organization that I don't know of. | ||
| The last two losses. | ||
| Kickboxing. | ||
| Make that larger and see what the Brazilian guy's name is. | ||
| Alex Pereira. | ||
| Oh, it's in glory. | ||
| Dude, Alex Pereira is a fucking beast. | ||
| But I think that was a decision. | ||
| K.O. K.O. Okay, that's the fight. | ||
| Yep, that's the fight. | ||
| And Glory of Hero 7, was that in Brazil? | ||
| Click on that. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Yeah, okay. | ||
| That was the fight that he talked about on Instagram. | ||
| Well, listen, Alex Pereira is a fucking killer. | ||
| He's murking people. | ||
| Yeah, he's beat him twice. | ||
| He's beat him twice. | ||
| How did he beat him in that fight? | ||
| Decision, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So he beat him by decision, then he KO'd him. | ||
| That just shows you how good Alex Pereira is. | ||
| Look, there's a few guys that are over there that if they just learn how to fucking stuff takedowns, Giorgio Petrosian might be fucking everybody up. | ||
| Nobody wants any of that shit. | ||
| If that guy figured out how to stuff takedowns... | ||
| This kid's takedown in grappling looked impressive, man. | ||
| Yes, it does, and he's going to get better. | ||
| I mean, he's young. | ||
| I think Israel's only 25. How old is he? | ||
| 28. 28. Okay. | ||
| He's young enough. | ||
| He's young enough where he has a base for grappling and takedown defense. | ||
| Oh yeah, for sure. | ||
| Where he's gonna give... | ||
| You look at middleweight division, man. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's a motherfucker to fight. | ||
| He's very dangerous on his feet. | ||
| And he's not gonna take any stupid chances. | ||
| I keep going back. | ||
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| Gotta see that motherfucker fight. | ||
| Well, we could easily see Till in him. | ||
| Easily. | ||
| Good. | ||
| Okay, Till easily could be moving up to 185. He's a huge 70. He's a giant. | ||
| And with these new impositions on weight classes, you know, where they're trying to encourage people to fight at a heavier weight class. | ||
| I dig it. | ||
| In California, you have to do it. | ||
| Yeah, California. | ||
| No, it's still a suggestion, apparently. | ||
| Are you sure? | ||
| Yep, yep. | ||
| Is that what Askin said or some shit? | ||
| No, Novitski. | ||
| Oh, Novitski. | ||
| Novitski said it's still a suggestion. | ||
| I saw Novitski in Boston. | ||
| Can I tell you this? | ||
| No. | ||
| I was walking to my seat, and I'm walking by, and he goes, come on, Sean. | ||
| I'm like, no, I'm like, Oh shit, Golden Stitch! | ||
| And he started laughing. | ||
| I went, dude, and I finally got to tell him, I love Nowitzki, by the way. | ||
| I love you, Jeff. | ||
| And I go, dude, I wasn't trying to be diminished or anything. | ||
| I respect the shit out of you. | ||
| He goes, it's all good, man. | ||
| It's funny. | ||
| I love Nowitzki, too, but I also love Lance Armstrong. | ||
| I have a real conflict. | ||
| I love Lance Armstrong. | ||
| Lance Armstrong is not getting happy when Nowitzki comes on the podcast. | ||
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Oh, really? | |
| He does not get happy. | ||
| He does not enjoy it. | ||
| The fucking guy went after him in a sport where everybody was dirty. | ||
| Yeah, that's tough. | ||
| I mean, come on! | ||
| It's tough. | ||
| I'm Switzerland on this. | ||
| I love both guys. | ||
| I fucking think it is goddamn hilarious that they say that Lance Armstrong didn't win those Tour de France. | ||
| They take his name off of it. | ||
| When the guy on the list who tested, didn't test positive for steroids. | ||
| If you go back to a guy who never got popped, you got to go to 18th place. | ||
| 18th spot. | ||
| So that means everyone he's racing with is geared up too. | ||
| Who gives a flying fuck? | ||
| He goes, our psychopath beats your psychopath. | ||
| Correct, Bill. | ||
| Correct, Bill. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean... | ||
| That's what happened. | ||
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He was the best. | |
| That's the sport, though. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Who cares? | ||
| Well, they care. | ||
| Have you been watching any of this Olympics? | ||
| No. | ||
| God, I'm balls deep in it, man. | ||
| I haven't even touched it. | ||
| I'll watch it at night, might smoke a little weed, and I'm just so memorized by a lot of it, man. | ||
| Icarus got me, dude. | ||
| I watched that documentary. | ||
| I'm like, this is just some crazy shit these people are doing. | ||
| And I started thinking about it. | ||
| And the thing that really made me start thinking about it was, why the fuck are they not paying these athletes? | ||
| This show is gigantic. | ||
| It's worth billions of dollars. | ||
| Where's that money going? | ||
| Why are those people getting paid? | ||
| And the fucking athletes are not getting paid. | ||
| And I know it costs a shit ton of money to put on those shows. | ||
| I know it does. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Not as much as the sponsorship money. | ||
| Not as much as it brings in. | ||
| Ford, Coke. | ||
| There's no way. | ||
| Oh, come on. | ||
| These organizations are raking in millions and millions of dollars. | ||
| The athletes aren't getting a penny of it. | ||
| The two most corrupted things in America, all around the world, the Olympic sports and college football. | ||
| College football. | ||
| Dude, college football. | ||
| I was going to say that. | ||
| And college basketball. | ||
| I was part of it, man. | ||
| Oh, it's so fucked up. | ||
| College basketball and college football. | ||
| It's so dirty. | ||
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It's not even funny. | |
| College football, especially because they're taking damage. | ||
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| No, dude, it's so fucked up. | ||
| It's essentially a combat sport in a lot of ways, right? | ||
| I mean, you're running at each other. | ||
| You're trying to do war. | ||
| You're trying to get your fucking football across the line. | ||
| They're trying to stop you. | ||
| You got a team of aggressors going after their team. | ||
| You're clashing into each other at full power. | ||
| And in college football, you're fighting 12 to 14 times a year. | ||
| Yeah, and you can't hit each other in terms of punches and kicks, but you're running at each other full blast, wearing helmets and shoulder pads. | ||
| You can hit each other harder because you're doing your whole body, using your body like a spear. | ||
| Dude, Jamie showed me a highlight reel of dudes getting KO'd in football, done in reverse. | ||
| Oh, it's horrible. | ||
| The reverse thing I'm not a big fan of. | ||
| My stupid brain has a hard time processing it. | ||
| When I watch it in full speed or in slow motion, you see how the impact... | ||
| You see the helmets fly off. | ||
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It's horrible. | |
| You see the dudes laying on the ground with their eyes rolled back in their head. | ||
| It's a different level of KO, too. | ||
| It's a running KO. There's level to this game. | ||
| In the Super Bowl, homeboy got knocked the fuck out in the Super Bowl. | ||
| It's vicious, man. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| What's weird, I'd let my son play football and not let him fight. | ||
| That is weird. | ||
| It's weird, right? | ||
| Because football, you know, you could get into Stanford, get into education, fighting, there's no benefits. | ||
| That's true, but goddamn, dude. | ||
| And you're sure as fuck not coming out of, you know, you don't hear, and fighting this corner out of the Palisades, you know what I'm saying? | ||
| It's just not working. | ||
| That's true, but he could be a great jiu-jitsu fighter. | ||
| If he hates money, yes, he could do jiu-jitsu and dedicate his life to that. | ||
| Why don't you just dedicate yourself to coming up with a jiu-jitsu league that's profitable? | ||
| I guess I could take some time and do that. | ||
| If jiu-jitsu gets more and more popular, how much... | ||
| It would already hit, Joe. | ||
| What does... | ||
| I don't necessarily know if it's done. | ||
| It would have cut on by now. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah, I think so. | ||
| I think it's more popular than ever. | ||
| What I want to know is... | ||
| I think it's more popular. | ||
| I also think it might be... | ||
| I don't think it's ever going to be like a mainstream, like guys making millions of dollars. | ||
| It would already hit. | ||
| Well, EBI is probably the biggest one. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| And he wins the best program by far. | ||
| The best program to watch, for sure, because of his restarts. | ||
| Not even close. | ||
| The way they have the overtime system. | ||
| But... | ||
| Do people know enough about it to appreciate it? | ||
| It takes too much time to invest in knowing the sport. | ||
| What about combat jiu-jitsu though? | ||
| Where people don't care. | ||
| Combat jiu-jitsu is way easier to understand. | ||
| Why wouldn't I just watch fucking MMA? Because you see bitch slaps. | ||
| Something powerful about a bitch slapper. | ||
| I'm going to watch MMA if I want to see hitting on the ground. | ||
| That's true, but I feel like it's a lab for learning what techniques are applicable to MMA before you actually get into MMA. Basically, all the same principles apply. | ||
| If you can slap somebody in the face and you see, like, okay, in this position, this guy's very open in the face for slaps, so if this was punches, it'd be a way worse situation for him. | ||
| And some guys can get stopped with slaps, like Wagner-Rocha. | ||
| Who did he stop? | ||
| He stopped... | ||
| But when you think about the crowds booing during a UFC fight, when it goes to the ground, when Khabib's beating the shit out of someone, or Stipe's... | ||
| They were booing Francis and Stipe when he's beating the shit out of them. | ||
| Now think about jiu-jitsu, where it's slapping. | ||
| It's never going to correlate to the masses. | ||
| It's just not. | ||
| I enjoy watching it. | ||
| I'm a weirdo. | ||
| But you know what's interesting, though? | ||
| They didn't boo Khabib. | ||
| Because Khabib's mauling was so terrifying that you realize, like, nobody was like, boo, stand him up, stand him up. | ||
| No, because Khabib was just beating the shit out of him the entire time they're down. | ||
| He was beating the shit out of him, but if you look at the viewership on that, it's not crazy. | ||
| Where people are like, no one's going, you gotta tune in to this guy's beating the shit out of this Brazilian. | ||
| Wait a minute, isn't it pay-per-view? | ||
| Wasn't it pay-per-view that fight? | ||
| What was that fight? | ||
| What fight was that? | ||
| Khabib, Barbosa, and who else was on that? | ||
| I called the fight, so it had to be pay-per-view. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| Who else was on there? | ||
| No, it was pay-per-view. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| It was the good one. | ||
| What is it on? | ||
| It was 219, so it was two events ago. | ||
| Was it the co-main event? | ||
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| Was it the co-main event? | ||
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| It was a phenomenal fight. | ||
| Was that Cyborg? | ||
| That was Cyborg. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Cyborg versus Holly Holm in the final, correct? | ||
| Is that what it is? | ||
| I'm pretty sure. | ||
| Is that it? | ||
| Couple one-two punches. | ||
| But still, you know what I'm saying? | ||
| Maybe 400,000 people saw that, paid for the pay-per-view. | ||
| No one's calling, like, dude, you've got to tune in. | ||
| This Russian, or where's he from, Kazakhstan? | ||
| Dagestan. | ||
| Dagestan is beating the shit out of this Brazilian. | ||
| That doesn't translate like a Forrest Griffin-Stefan Bonner fight, unfortunately. | ||
| You have to tune in and buy this pay-per-view. | ||
| See, it's way easier to get, especially when it's a co-main event already, man. | ||
| It's hard to get people to buy in that late in a fight. | ||
| Like that late in a card, you already made it to the co-main event, and it's already going on. | ||
| What's the next fight? | ||
| Oh, it's Cyborg versus Holly Holm. | ||
| I'm going to watch it on the replay. | ||
| Once you're already that deep in the card... | ||
| Yeah, it's a little late. | ||
| But if it's on Spike TV and you call your friend up and you go, dude, you've got to watch these crazy white boys beat the fuck out of each other. | ||
| People aren't doing that. | ||
| Then you can do that. | ||
| People aren't doing that. | ||
| I'm not calling my dad. | ||
| You've got to tune in and see Khabib beat the shit out of this guy. | ||
| I don't know, man. | ||
| I don't know if that's true. | ||
| Because if that fight was on Fox, I really feel like people would have went crazy. | ||
| If you saw the way Khabib kept taking Edson Barboza down and mauling them, the way we were calling it. | ||
| The ratings would side with me. | ||
| This year's ratings would definitely side with me. | ||
| Yeah, but when has Khabib fought on Fox? | ||
| He's had fights on... | ||
| All his fights haven't been on pay-per-view. | ||
| Yeah, he's had fights on FS1, right? | ||
| Like Daryl Horcher. | ||
| Didn't he fight him on... | ||
| He's had some fights on... | ||
| His fighting style isn't the type of fighting style where it crosses over to the masses. | ||
| We love him because he's beating the shit out of people on the ground. | ||
| He's also one thing that people love, and that's undefeated. | ||
| Undefeated. | ||
| I think he's 18-0. | ||
| So is Gunn Askren, though. | ||
| Why isn't he a bigger star? | ||
| Not in the UFC. His last two fights before, or the fight before Michael Johnson, he fought Dos Anjos and Horcher were both UFC on Fox events. | ||
| And how was those ratings? | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| And he beat the fuck out of Dos Anjos. | ||
| He did beat the fuck out of Dos Anjos. | ||
| He beat the brakes off of him. | ||
| Yeah, and Horcher was a real last minute substitution. | ||
| I mean, real last minute. | ||
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That poor kid. | |
| Hey man, that dude's tough as fuck. | ||
| What about Michael Johnson? | ||
| Was that Fox? | ||
| Where he's telling him to... | ||
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UFC 205. That was... | |
| That was a terrible one. | ||
| Watch him. | ||
| Give up! | ||
| I must get my title shot. | ||
| Beat the shit out of him. | ||
| It's a fucking killer, son. | ||
| But he needed this fight, because he needed a fight where it was post-weight loss bullshit, like the weight cut, where they had to cancel the fight with Tony. | ||
| He's got a real nutritionist now. | ||
| He looked way better. | ||
| I'm very excited about that fight in Brooklyn. | ||
| Very, very excited about that fight. | ||
| Dude, I can't find a venue to do a show. | ||
| It's too late. | ||
| What? | ||
| I know. | ||
| I was going to do a show Thursday night before yours. | ||
| I know. | ||
| They can't find one. | ||
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What? | |
| Gotham's booked. | ||
| I was going to do One Night Carolinas, but it's too small, so I'm just going to come back and do a weekend in New York instead of doing a show. | ||
| Well, you have to work with me. | ||
| I'd love to, man. | ||
| All right, we'll do it with that. | ||
| You let me know. | ||
| I worked with you. | ||
| You worked with me? | ||
| Dude, I'd love to. | ||
| You tell me. | ||
| Yay! | ||
| All right, we made it happen. | ||
| Yay! | ||
| What else is going on? | ||
| It's almost 5.30. | ||
| Did we cover everything? | ||
| How long have we been talking? | ||
| We have, man, right? | ||
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Forever. | |
| Things go by fast, brother. | ||
| Three hours. | ||
| I feel like we haven't talked in a while. | ||
| I think we can talk for three hours, right? | ||
| That's how we were, baby. | ||
| All right, we'll wrap this bitch up. | ||
| So, uh... | ||
| Can't talk about that other thing. | ||
| The Showtime stuff? | ||
| But you talk about some things. | ||
| I have an exciting, yeah, it's an exciting announcement. | ||
| I got my own TV show coming out with Showtime. | ||
| It'll be on digital and the network on Showtime. | ||
| But there's certain things you can't say. | ||
| Yeah, well, right, they have to make the official announcement. | ||
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Oh. | |
| We got all the contracts in place, but they want to make the official announcement. | ||
| But you already fucked them over, then, by saying it right here. | ||
| They told me I could say it. | ||
| They just said I can't say the exact thing. | ||
| But next weekend, I'm at La Jolla Comedy Store, Friday and Saturday. | ||
| One of the greatest clubs in the history of the world. | ||
| My favorite club, man. | ||
| That's a great spot. | ||
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I know. | |
| That's as good as the Comedy Store in Hollywood. | ||
| The best. | ||
| So I'm there Friday, Saturday night. | ||
| All those tickets are almost sold out. | ||
| Two shows Friday, two shows Saturday. | ||
| And then March, I'm in Tampa, Palm Beach, and Orlando, son. | ||
| Powerful. | ||
| BrendanSchobb.com. | ||
| It should be Powerful Brendan Schobb. | ||
| Why don't you change your website name? | ||
| That's your thing, man. | ||
| Powerfulbrandshop.com. | ||
| It's everybody. | ||
| I don't think so, man. | ||
| We should all just have Powerful in front of our name. | ||
| Everybody out there, whoever you are, put Powerful in front of your name. | ||
| You'll feel better about your life. | ||
| You're right, man. | ||
| Later, fuckers. |
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