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Welcome to another Justin Formed Talk Radio Show.
I'm your host, Craig James.
Hope you guys are having a wonderful day.
It's Friday.
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You guys know him.
Mr. Nick No is with us today.
We're going to be talking about a lot of different subjects, going through the news, covering what we can.
Nick, welcome to the show.
How are you doing today?
Good morning, Craig.
I'm feeling great.
I know it's going to be a good day.
We got some news to get into, and then some fun for Tinfoily Friday and later part.
Yeah, exactly.
We're going to try to get through a lot of stuff today.
We're going to cover some of the stories that have really not gotten a lot of coverage with the uh whole Charlie Kirk thing.
But I guess we'll start with Charlie Kirk because it is the biggest story in the country still today.
Obviously, for clear and apparent and obvious reasons.
Uh but it looks like something has happened here with the um timeline.
And what it appears to be is a uh big hole that's been blown in the timeline as Candace Owens of all people released a photo that seems to capture Tyler Robinson, the alleged shooter at a Dairy Queen in Oram, Utah, which is the same city where the university uh was where Charlie Kirk was shot.
And this sort of punches a hole in the whole entire timeline and sequence of events because they somehow were making the claim that you know Tyler Robinson was at that point, he should have been probably halfway to St. George, Utah, which was about three hours away in Southwest Utah.
Now, I don't know if you know this, but I've actually spent a lot of time in St. George, Utah.
It's it's uh a place that I frequented often for uh nothing other it's it's actually this closest major city to Zion National Park.
So many people who've been there know that if you're gonna go to Zion National Park, there's only a few places to stay near it, and St. George happens to be one of those.
There's also a little town kind of right next to it called Hurricane.
Uh gorgeous town, beautiful town.
Kind of a town I don't like to talk about because I don't like people, you know, going there because it's such a great place.
I mean, it's it's uh it's a wonderful sort of vacation destination, but uh that aside, having been to St. George for uh, you know, enough times to know that the area fairly well, um, I can tell you right now that you know, coming down from Oram, it's a straight shot.
There, I think there's a major highway, I forget which one that just is a straight shot down from there because it orum's up there near, I think, Provo, which is up kind of in the northwest side of the state, kind of central side part of the state, near Salt Lake City.
Provo is kind of like the the ski, the fancy ski town of Utah, kind of like I guess Vail is here in Colorado.
And um, I mean, the idea that this kid was just you know, walk walked away from this site, and he's over at Dairy Queen having a snack, and doesn't look like he got a care in the world, not trying to hide his identity or cover his face.
He's just in a Dairy Queen eating some food.
It's just strange, Nick.
I mean, what do you think?
And again, how far is the the how far is that drive?
So the drive is from the university to the Dairy Queen is about 15 minutes, and then the timestamps are what mess with it because I think the official story, and I'd have to look at the exact facts, but the official story is that Tyler went straight back to St. George, which I think it's roughly three hours, I want to say, from Orum.
Maybe a little, maybe closer to four, three and a half, four hours, but regardless, the the timeline doesn't seem to line up.
And And so you're just like, why are they giving us these crazy timelines that don't aren't even real?
And why is this guy standing in a Dairy Queen eating, not trying to hide, not he's not doesn't seem to be worried about getting caught.
Did he really think he got away with it?
I I don't know.
Uh maybe there's some MK Ultra stuff going on here where maybe maybe look at it this way.
Remember that guy that the donor that was going to give his father a million dollars.
Maybe he was gonna turn him he it was all a setup for him to be the Patsy, and then he would have this Burger King and other alibis, so this would get dragged out forever, and then they'd have a million dollars to pay the attorney's fees and stretch this out for six, seven months before they figure out oh, this guy's innocent, and then by that time, obviously all the evidence and everything's gone away.
Um if you do it that way, think about it, you know, if he did it that way, it would be um Yeah, I mean, it's just strange.
I don't know, but I do know that him climbing off of the roof is kind of like it's it.
I there's no real good video evidence of him like bringing a rifle up.
It just it's kind of like here he is walking up a staircase, here he is jumping off a roof, uh we don't really see much.
And then one of the other things that caught my eye about this whole thing is there's this video that's kind of going around on the internet, and it's of in the moments after I guess Charlie Kirk's assassination after they carried his body off.
There are some people who are kind of dressed in you know civilian clothes.
They look though, they have the look of like, you know, military or law enforcement, kind of, you know, with the black shades and the you know, the kind of you know the vibe you get when you see a cop, they they have a different demeanor, and posture even.
Yeah, posture and uh language, body language, yeah.
And there's this video of what seems to be like moments after Charlie Kirk's shot of this guy come up with black shades on, he's in civilian clothes, kind of looks like he might be security or some he has to probably be working with the event somehow.
He pulls the chair that Charlie Kirk got shot sitting in over, steps on it, and takes this camera down that's behind Charlie Kirk, and then appears to be like removing the sim card out of the camera, is the best guess I have.
So he pulls this camera down, pulls the sim card out of the camera, it looks like, and then puts it somewhere and kind of like looks around like suspiciously, like makes sure nobody's watching him, and then kind of just like disappears.
And we never hear anything about this guy, we never hear anything about the camera.
And my question is, why have the police not said anything about the fact that we clearly have video evidence of the crime scene being tampered with in the moments after the shooting, right?
Because isn't the whole idea that when you have a crime like that, it the scene should be secured immediately, and I would imagine that part of the crime scene is includes the chair that the guy who was shot was sitting on and the camera sitting behind him recording the whole thing, right?
Yes.
So what what's that all about?
Well, I think that has to do with that plane that took off, Craig.
That's what George uh Webb was saying, interestingly enough.
Uh so I don't know.
This is I I was skeptical at first, but now I'm starting to realize that there's a lot more of this.
Stay tuned, we'll talk about when we come back.
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I'm your host, Craig James.
And in an amazing event last night, by the way, I believe it was last night, 10,000 people showed up here in Fort Collins, right up the street from the station at CSU, Colorado State University, one of the bluest colleges in the bluest cities in this state.
10,000 people showed up and filled up the CSU stadium there for a memorial for Charlie Kirk.
So that was an amazing event.
Unfortunately, I wasn't able to make it down there, but it looked really amazing, and it was it was a really clear message, you know, that there are conservatives here in Colorado, many, many conservatives, and just because we have these deep blue cities doesn't mean that we are a deep blue state.
If you go outside the cities, I mean mostly you're gonna find very conservative, patriotic, you know, God fearing Americans all across the state.
I know because uh I live near 'em, I know 'em.
Now they're probably uh touch more liberals out here than you'd like to admit, but um in all this speculation about Charlie Kirk's death and what happened, I just want to make clear a couple things.
A I will never forget, and I hope we never forget that Charlie was a good Christian patriot who uh professed the gospel and and was just a strong advocate for Jesus Christ, and uh his faith and courage is what we'll remember him for.
But uh B that no matter what who killed him or how he was killed, he is dead, uh unfortunately, and he is with our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
I I so nothing that I want to be clear that nothing I'm laying out here isinuating that There's a storyline where this like didn't happen or I I mean he was clearly shot and killed in front of everyone there.
It would be impossible to fake that, I think.
You just can't.
Now where the bullet came from and who shot him and who orchestrated it and all of that, I think still up in the air.
Right, Nick.
Yeah, it's there are a lot of uh video evidence of people doing some weird things, such as like you said, taking out the memory cards and tampering with the evidence.
Uh before that, some handoffs between the bodyguards with and they try to conceal something they put in their pockets, and then that guy who was sitting just to the right of standing just to the right of Charlie, he had uh from uh pictures of him from his front side,
and you can see the that there's this special kind of gun where you can collapse it, it looks like a credit card uh size and has two shots, and uh that guy could have had one of those in his um in his hoodie that he had on.
Um there's a lot of a lot of things that go on, and of course the two patsies that pretended first you had the guy said he was a shooter and he wasn't, and then he was somehow a witness to 9-11 and then also called in a bomb threat, and then and then he was arrested for child pornography after that uh just yesterday or day before.
Then you had the other guy who who had a pellet gun on his dashboard, okay, so not even country folk put their guns on their dashboard.
That's insane.
They would never do that because they respect the dangers of guns.
All right.
Um and so it wasn't, you know, so that person wouldn't have been just a person in the wrong place, wrong time going by the road, you know, so that was intentionally done to get pulled over and be a distraction, and that person uh, you know, they let him go because they just had a pellet gun, but at the same time, it's like uh I I feel like our FBI is so incompetent when these kinds of things happen.
Um they let the people go that are suspects.
You need you know, obviously, if there's ever something like that that big, you don't let the people go, you hold them until you figure out what's going on.
Uh and and that happened, so um there seems to be a lot of people involved in it, and possibly part of our government was involved too, even helping with the getaway.
Yeah.
And what I talked about earlier with regard to the photo.
I kind of have more details on it, but it's it's a little complicated if you're not following the case s very closely, right?
But essentially what the photo basically dictates is that as opposed to him tr immediately traveling out of Orem going straight down to St. George, which is like four or five hours, actually.
It's uh it's a little longer than I even thought.
Um that he was he actually stayed in that area for a few hours afterwards, which you know, does that necessarily make sense?
Would you stay there if you just killed someone there and then go to Dairy Queen and just hang out?
And like you were saying, you know, it fits kind of this MK Ultra profile.
Um then it calls into question like who is this and then there's the the weird thing with they were saying that he disassembled the rifle, and I don't know to what extent they mean he disassembled the rifle.
Do you know what I mean?
Yeah, for that particular rifle, you would have some parts pop off, but then the to get the barrel.
He didn't ha like they're like, oh, well, you need an Alan Ranch and you need to do this and that, and I saw a guy disassemble one, and I'm like, well, he took off the barrel with a screwdriver, and then he you know, to get the scope off, he would have had to have done some other stuff, but do we know if it was a partial disassembly, a full disassembly?
I mean, you know what I mean?
Yeah, yeah.
I just don't see it happening.
And then that guy showed up at the Dairy Queen 17 minutes after he was assassinated, and you said it's a 15 minute drive, right?
If you drove Oh, I don't know that because that's that's the post I was looking at, but actually um that doesn't align with anything, right?
Because but but but that's that claim is not like he the the person who wrote that I think is Spencer Huckamian, the the guy on Twitter here.
I I don't I don't think that the claim is that he was there 17 minutes after.
I think the claim is that he was there.
It took 17 minutes to get there by car.
That's a misleading post.
It's not it's not what that video, if they went and got the evidence there of that guy, let's assume that he was there, and then the FBI went and grabbed it, then they would see also Hugh B limping.
I don't know if you've seen this, but when he was going to almost making it home, his neighbor had a doorbell camera, and you can see him limping from jumping from the top of whatever it was, whoever the person uh him, the guy, if it was him, and he was limping as he walked home, and it was like he it is as if he had really injured his leg enough so he couldn't run.
So he couldn't have run to the Dairy Queen.
Whoever's clearly walked.
And and I don't I think we're this might be even semantics now, is like, where is it, the Dairy Queen?
George Webb was saying something to the effect that you know the only way he could have been at this Dairy Queen and then been in St. George, Utah so quickly was if he was on a plane.
And I don't know if that's true either.
I don't, you know, George Webb, he's a great guy, I like him, he does a lot of great work, but he'll say things from time to time that are just like I'm not sure about.
You know what I mean?
Like I don't know, like you ever get the feeling, Nick, when you talk to some people that they may be working for, I don't know, intelligence agencies.
Yeah, definitely.
And sometimes you're like, okay, well, if you're working with an intelligence agency and you're out there spreading information, I just take everything you say with a grain of salt.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, and I think a lot of his sources are CIA too, which is a good one.
Well, I didn't want to say I didn't want to say that, but I mean, I'm just saying.
We've you gotta understand people.
Uh I wouldn't I I wouldn't talk about people like this unless I've like, I've met these people, we've we've met these people, we've hung out with them, we've you know, we know we see them when you know they're hanging out and who they're hanging out with and how they act and what they say.
Sometimes it's like, oh, okay, I see what's going on here.
Like you get it.
Like you don't I don't how I don't know how to describe it, but you just know, right?
Yeah, yeah.
Um it's it's pretty it it kind of it's kind of fun in a way, but at the same time, uh you never know for sure who they're working for, but you have you know, you can tell from their body language and and from their hearts if they're have good intentions, you know.
I don't know.
It's really tough to know for sure on that stuff, but uh yeah, I I think that it's that's possible, man.
It's uh well and then some people want to say if somebody texted and said, um you ever heard of Squib Special Effects, where's the bullet, two guys giving signals right before, did you know the CIA is in Oram?
So I don't know anything about the CIA being an Oram.
I don't know if you know something about that, Nick.
Maybe you can enlighten us.
But um I do know that you know, I think squib is a special effects, like where you have it's like those blood packs, I'm assuming, where you like you get shot and it it shoots blood out.
I mean, look.
I don't know how to say this without sounding like I'm being rude, but uh if you believe that Charlie Kirk is clearly there speaking, and it's not just on video, I mean in front of thousands of people, it's clearly Charlie Kirk.
It couldn't be more clear.
And you clearly see his body go from being alive and talking one second to the next second, a big hole in his neck, shooting blood out.
I mean, and in his neck of All places.
You can't like a squib pack, you would put in I mean, like, this would suggest that he showed up with makeup on and a fake neck prosthetic.
You know what I mean?
Like and to what end?
Right?
I mean, like what they're like, okay, Charlie, put on this fake neck.
We're gonna explode your neck, shoot blood out of it, carry you off, put you in witness protection program for what for what reason we don't know.
Remove you from society.
I mean, it's like to do what?
To like I don't even understand what to what end it would be.
Right.
Yeah, the uh the only thing that I would say that even points to the possibility that that could be true was that they took him and put him in an SUV after he was shot in his throat and thought that was the fastest and best way to get him to the hospital or any kind of treatment.
Well, what else are they gonna do, Nick?
What else are they gonna do?
First of all, I'm almost certain that the guys who were there were like military, right?
Like his security.
Or law and I don't know.
And so one of them looked like the same guy that was at Trump's uh attempted assassination, that guy that was famous.
I don't know right now.
Maybe, maybe, maybe.
I don't know.
But let me just ask you this.
You were in the military, right?
And you probably knew people who are in like combat action, right?
Yes.
You think those guys don't know when someone's dead, like when they have a chance and when they don't.
So my assumption is that one or some of those guys who were in his security detail probably have seen combat, probably knew what a the difference between a fatal wound and a and a survivable wound was.
And you're saying, like, you've even said you we said it yesterday, even if there was a trauma surgeon there with a full medical kit, they couldn't have saved Charlie's life.
He was dead on impact, basically.
Right?
So you're saying that you're saying that playing what?
They would have had to have his blood type and his blood.
Yeah, they would have had to have his blood stitch and stitch it up.
Well, and then you're gonna remember your your your carotid artery is like one of the two main veins that brings blood to your brain.
Your if your blood, if the your brain is not receiving blood for a long enough period, a short enough period, eight.
You're dead.
You're basically brain dead.
Yeah, yeah, eight eight minutes, yeah, about eight minutes, and then in this.
So you think they're gonna be able to reconstruct his carotid artery in eight minutes that's been blown up by a bullet?
I mean, no, even then, you wouldn't have to do it.
It would take hours just to reconstruct the the vein, right?
I would imagine.
And so anyway, you don't think those guys knew this guy's fatal shot, he's dead.
We're gonna get him in the car and get him to the hospital, because it's like, what else can we do?
We're just not gonna leave him here on the ground.
So that's what I think.
Um they knew he was dead.
I I think.
Stay tuned for it.
Yeah.
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Welcome back to Just Form Talk Radio.
I'm your host, Craig James with Nick No, and you know, we're still talking about this Charlie Kirk's death.
It's horrific.
And I was just commenting, you know, with regard to the idea that it never happened, you know, I just it couldn't be more uh clear and apparent that he did die there that day.
Now the the the why and the how um we're still not sure about.
I mean, even as more of this official narrative gets released, more contradicting things come out about it.
Somebody pointed out it's similar to Luigi Mangioni on the text line.
Um I think Luigi went to like Starbucks after he murdered that that uh CEO or whatever the healthcare United Healthcare CEO, or I don't know if he was the CEO or if he was a top executive, I don't remember his exact title.
But you know, I mean, it is strange, and I talked about it in yesterday's show.
You know, the idea that somebody like Tyler Robinson could be radicalized to do it is not far-fetched by any number of ways, including up to and including, you know, state-backed intelligence operatives working to flip and convert some guy into a homicidal maniac, right?
But the idea that he's a Patsy, which implies that he didn't do it, I've I've doubted because it seemed clear with the evidence we were being given that he did do it.
But now I'm thinking, you know, probably he did do it.
I I don't know.
I mean, I don't remember.
Remember whatever in real remember when we were Craig, we were talking about in on air in real time as it was coming out that that report was happening, and then we saw the first photos, and the first photos looked like a Ukrainian person, completely different person, and then they started show showing the pictures of Mangione or whatever, and we talked about what what it would mean if it was a person who was who is uh living locally and you know could do something like that.
We talked about how they would have been a person that's well to do, um, you know, that would have gone to get a Starbucks after that.
Um and anyway, like if you're like an actual assassin, you know, you can shoot somebody and then go have a latte and eat some McDonald's, you wouldn't it wouldn't affect you.
Yeah, I still think that like I said, there are other pictures that looked like a completely different person, it looked like a Ukrainian.
I I think so released Magioni.
Yeah, at the same time, I still have Marchived and that and uh they looked like completely different people.
So um, you know what's crazy?
I just want to add this to that, what you're saying, because this is this goes with it.
this is where I think AI is gonna be crazy, and and it already is, but it's gonna get worse and worse going in the future where you're not gonna be able to trust anything.
So apparently with regard to Tyler Robinson, there was this viral image I saw, right?
That was going viral, like in when the FBI first released the photo of him from one of the surveillance cameras, and apparently what somebody had done is they took one of the photos of him and used AI to like doctor it, and then they posted it and said, Look, this this guy doesn't look anything like Tyler Robinson, this is a different person.
And that video that picture went viral, and then it only came out like a little bit later that the person doctored it with AI to make it look like it was somebody else, which again it's like I don't know why these people are doing it,
other than I can imagine some leftist who's thinks they're you know trying to muddy up the waters to help this Tyler Robinson out putting it up there or or who knows what other entities you could imagine would be doing that and and you're like man, this is what the future's gonna be like from here on.
You know, it's like you're not gonna be able to trust anything you see anymore because AI can take something and make realistic alternates, like alternate realities that uh digitally that you'll just be like, I don't know what's real.
I don't I don't know who's in that video.
I don't even know if that video is real.
Yeah, it's getting to that point.
I mean, I I was kind of fooled by that too, because I was looking for a clear picture of him, and sometimes like people like yourself that are good with Photoshop, they can use filters and then sharpen and stuff like that.
That's different than using AI to make uh an image.
And I thought that would initially it was an image from someone that actually knew how to use Photoshop and then sharpen the image, but it turns out it was AI, and it could have been, you know, AI can do whatever it wants to it.
Yeah, AI can basically take a picture and just make it whatever it wants, and you would have you know almost it to the naked eye at least, it's nearly impossible to distinguish between that and reality.
Yeah, it it is.
And uh, you know, that that's that's what they wanted.
I think you're right about that, and that's what they wanted to money the waters about everything.
Um that's why I'm saying like I I mean it's getting close to the point where you're you're like, can I trust anything I see online?
And I feel like that's where they want us.
I mean, talk about a state of you know, ambiguity and confusion where you're like, I I don't know, I don't know what's right, I don't know what's up and down, I don't know what is real.
And then when you don't when you when you're incapable of perceiving reality, then you're perpetually looking to the authority to tell you what is real and what is not.
Yeah, and that's what they want.
They they uh they want you, and then on top of that, they're gonna say, Oh, we're creating an AI that'll be completely objective and not have any agenda, and then and then you can use just use that just like we do, or something like that.
You know what I'm saying?
And then just like Google became the standard.
Everybody Googles stuff when they go to look for stuff.
I don't do that anymore because I don't want to give them the satisfaction or or the clicks.
But uh there are other search engines out there that are just as good.
Um I don't know about just good, but there are other search engines.
You know, Israel just paid Google hundreds of millions of dollars to make it just like when Hillary during her campaign, whenever you'd search anything bad about her, it wouldn't come up anything about her server, uh bleach bit, none of that stuff.
It would it would say Hillary is the best when you type in word Hillary, that sort of thing.
So it's somebody that got too.
There's a viral thing out there where it's like go look up um, you know, if you go to Google and go to image search, and then you type like black family, you know, white family.
If you type, you know, Asian family, if you type white family, it just it all it pulls up are you know black or Asian or other like minority families, but if you put like black family in, it'll give you a black family, you know, like and it's like why does it do that?
It's like I don't know.
I don't even understand what that is, other than they're trying to make it impossible for you to find a white family, some see something to do with critical race theory, I'm sure, something to do with some you know, woke HR department of you know, head saying we need more diversity or something.
Like Yeah, and oftentimes those families not they would be mixed too.
They'd have like a mixed family too, um, races always.
I mean, with that exception, you know, if they do deviate from anybody but white people.
Yeah, and it's like I don't care what if people want to marry people of another race, but I don't know why that has to be the case in every picture or every commercial on TV.
It's like I mean, and it's probably it's a little less now because I think the woke people have kind of gotten rooted out to a degree, but it's still still prevalent to a small degree, or probably a large degree.
I don't know.
I don't watch TV anymore.
I stopped watching it a long time ago.
But I don't know.
I want to talk about more.
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Believe it or not.
Um some interesting stuff.
I didn't have on my bingo card.
For instance, I did not have on my bingo card in the wake of this shooting.
I apply what Nick Fuentes is now doing.
So we'll talk about that when we come back.
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I'm your host, Craig James, with Nick Ngo.
And I was just watching, you know, this stuff is just scroll through so Sometimes people are impossible to to miss online.
And uh on, you know, fortunately or unfortunately, depending on how you look at it, um, Nick Fuentes has become this, you know, major figure, right?
I don't like him.
I don't like the way he talks about people.
I don't agree with him in his characterization of many different things, but there's no it's undeniable he's a intelligent young man.
And you know, it could get into the whole idea of what I think about him, which is pretty simple.
I just think of him as a uh a sad person.
I think he's he's very sad.
You know, living in your mom's basement, and he's got these we know, he's got this Groper army with him, and he he's uh he calls he's is it am I right?
He calls himself an incel, I guess, which is an involuntary celibate, I'm assuming, but I don't even know if he identifies as that anymore.
I think he did at one point or another.
And you know, the way he talks about people is just the sign uh the largest sign of an immature person, right?
But at the same time, you know, it's interesting, people follow him.
I follow his uh work occasionally just to see what he's saying, to understand because I like to hear all sides.
And uh he's come out now and been very strongly stating that he does not believe Israel was involved in this assassination, which is a reasonable, I think, thing to say, given the fact that you know, we don't have a direct line of evidence linking Israel, we just have all this, like you said, we've said circumstantial stuff and you know, these coincidences, you know, the conversations leading up to his assassination, etc.
Text messages and the weird meetings in the Hamptons.
It's all very circumstantial.
It's not there's no like concrete say, oh yeah, here's how Israel, here's Israel's connection.
And he's come out now and he said, A, you know, that he doesn't think Israel was involved, and his reasoning is that if Israel was involved, he said it would be a an act of war, right?
He says this is if this is the case, then this would be an act of war.
And and if that were the case, then Trump and Vance would have to, you know, declare war on Israel for doing it.
So I read the situation probab maybe different than some.
I think I my immediate read on the situation is the fact that Nick has already had people show up to his house.
He's a very small person.
I mean, I don't know if you know Nick's like, you know, he's got that Napoleon complex.
He's one of those little guys, which you know, there's nothing wrong with being short.
I love short people.
But you know, he's he's a little guy, he's not probably not capable of defending himself very well, and I think he's afraid.
I think he knows that if a guy like Charlie Kirk's gonna get assassinated, you know, the the most moderate of moderates, really, when it comes to conservatives, one of the the few people in the conservative movement who engaged in you know uh free debate and and you know was an advocate of let's talk things out, let's have a conversation.
I mean, he's he's gotta be terrified because his you know rather to me, disgusting rhetoric at times, the way he says things, the way he characterizes people,
the way he incites people, as smart as he may be, as intelligent as he may be, um, he he does it in a very vicious way with you know very little concern for for other people's you know feelings, as they say.
And I'm like thinking to myself, my initial reaction to his comment was you know, even if he did think it's Israel, that would be all the more reason for him to say it's not Israel, right?
And maybe he is his his evolution on the the position of On Israel may begin now, knowing that his life's in danger.
Is that makes?
I mean, because I know when I was doing this, like bigger on a bigger level, like the the YouTube podcast was huge, and I was going to all these events.
You can't help but start feeling paranoid when you're talking to people and you're not sure if they're who they say they are, right?
And you're out in front of audiences, you're giving speeches.
I've given a number of speeches.
I mean, uh, most notably, I was on the cover of the New York Times giving a speech in front of the Washington Monument in DC in front of the White House.
And I mean, you get death threats, you get people who get intelligence agencies trying to befriend you and and use your platform to leverage for their influence operations.
You get like we saw with Charlie Kirk, crazy people who want to kill you.
And who knows who those people are working for or with or who are they being manipulated by or from.
So the paranoia is real.
And it and it could go to any level.
I mean, you could be talking about anything.
I mean, we I don't even want to get into some of the stuff because it's uh I don't want to get into some details on some stuff that I've been through.
And I'm sure you've experienced Nick, because you've had the same level of notoriety, if not more, than me.
So it's like I mean uh that's the way I read Nick.
Well, what do you am I what do you think, Nick?
Yeah, I've had a couple of those encounters where they thought that uh I wouldn't know any better, and I let them let them believe that, and then uh collected that and that didn't, you know that uh I don't know if that was an operation to it could have been one to deceive me, who knows?
But there's there was a something that I was involved in where there were people who used to work for the CIA and knew they did, and uh, you know, of course, so I didn't trust them, but I did try and find any information I could from him when they were talking to me.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, I mean slip.
But I guess the point I'm making, and and that that's a whole nother thing.
I your stuff, I've heard some of your stories are crazy.
I mean, not they're just like out there wild, right?
But it's impossible to not let that paranoia you know infiltrate the way you think, the way you act, the way you operate, because it's you're not paranoid for there's a good reason for it.
So anyway, we'll talk about more when we come back.
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And I don't know.
I mean, I try not to let the paranoia you know get to me ever.
Because there are just certain things you can't control, right?
But a certain amount of paranoia is healthy because it keeps you safe.
It gives you a uh a level of skepticism, right?
A level of you know clarity, especially when and discernment when you're dealing with things that you're you should be skeptical of and should be discerning with.
Um these people that you see online, I want to be I want to make it very clear.
In the same way that the fake news mainstream media, we acknowledge the fact that there and and it's been admitted and it's all you know factual, that there were operations actively working to infiltrate to control and disseminate narratives to control narratives to disseminate news narratives,
everything in the fake news media, they are doing the same thing to the podcasters and the influencers and the social media people.
If you have a big following, right?
If you're allowed to exist with a big following in this thing, because look, like I don't care what anyone says, like they will crush you if you do not play ball with them.
They will remove you, they will censor you, they will deplatform you.
And so if you have a channel and it's on YouTube, and you have a lot of people and a lot of influence, you're being worked by operatives.
Sometimes you can build alternate platforms.
I think the platform he streams on is an independent one.
But even when you get to those independent platforms, do you think they're gonna just stop trying to influence you?
And do you think that if they figure out that they can't influence you that they're not gonna maybe take more drastic measures?
I mean, Nick, am I am I crazy?
Or is it because this is what I observed when I was in the circles, you know.
What they did to Charlie was textbook.
First they try and influence you.
If it doesn't work, then they try to bribe you.
Then if that doesn't work, then they kill you.
So uh so I'm sure he's been warned.
And uh I'm sure he won't take a bribe.
So his options are to either try and protect his life by uh you know deflecting the Israel uh overwhelming evidence to uh to keep the attention off of him.
I don't know, it's it could be a good strategic move at the same time.
Um what is he gonna do?
He doesn't have a choice.
I mean, it's literally they make you an offer you can't refuse.
And and look, I'm a guy who was very I wasn't the level of Charlie Kirk or Nick Fuentes or Alex Jones or any of these like people.
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But even at that level, I saw it.
And I didn't play ball with them.
And then my channel got deleted.
And it's just like, yeah, you didn't invite me to the events anymore.
Sorry.
You're not in, you're not in the club anymore because you won't play ball.
And if they can get rid of you that easily, then that that's fine.
Then they leave you to be because you know you're out in obscurity.
But if you say no and continue to grow, you become a target.
Trust me on that.
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Nick, I mean, I want to keep going.
A couple other stories perhaps, but uh, it looks like we have a caller.
What do you think?
Should we bring them on?
Bring it on.
Caller you on the air.
What do you got?
Oh, yeah.
I was just wanting to.
I don't know if you guys have seen it.
There's an interesting video on a YouTube, and the guy goes into the ex-military and uh saying that it looked like it deflected off his body armor.
That's why it comes into his neck.
It's uh the channel is Paramount Tacticals.
They got to put the video out on the 11th, the first one about it.
I've seen the clip from the video, I think.
Yeah, I've seen the video.
I've heard the explanation of the body armor deflection.
But I've also seen other people, I think I saw that same guy actually later say that he said he was wrong because he said he doesn't think he was wearing body armor because there's a point in the video where you can clearly see, you know, for lack of a better term, the outline of Charlie Kirk's nipple, and he said, I don't think they make body armor with nipples.
So there was a later one he looked at it and decided depending on the size of the plate, how big a guy Charlie Kirk was, you could still have a plate on and have a nipple showing.
Yeah, I guess that's true.
I didn't think of that.
He also got some flack about people saying, Oh, you're saying the body armor killed him.
No, just ballistics.
Yeah, no, it's the body, I mean breakdown on it.
I'll have to check out the the after videos.
I've saw the two videos.
I saw the one where he explained the the deflection, and then I saw the follow-up one where he said that he didn't think that he had body armor on, but I didn't see the third one.
Because they do, you're right, they do sell certain kind of plates, chest plates that are kind of like smaller that sort of just protect your heart and and there and and that main area there.
So that I I think you're yeah.
No, I mean I I saw it.
I don't know.
I mean, uh, what do you think, caller?
I I thought the breakdown on that first video was real good, and the way the shirt reacted, and it looks like there's something up below his shirt that goes up and then drops back down, and the hit definitely appeared before the mark on his neck.
Yeah.
You could see the impact before the mark on the neck appeared.
Yeah, and it was funny because I remember like in the day of the attack, right, or the day of the assassination, the there were people online being like, Oh, this video is fake, it's AI, because look, there's the F like disappears on his shirt, and I'm like, do you people not understand how fabric works?
Like it it folded and the letter became uh you unable to be seen because the shirt like crinkled or wrinkled.
Like I don't know.
So it jumped a lot.
Yeah.
And that said that there was something under it that moved it because the bullet would just pop right through a shirt without even a big thing.
It's an interesting theory, and and I and it I don't know, I'm not a ballistics expert.
I mean, I would defer probably more to Nick, uh, because he's you know, um been in the military, fired weapons, knows a lot more.
I mean, I'm I'm a I can I'm pretty good shot, I like to shoot, uh, but I'm not a an expert at ballistics by any means.
Nick, what are your thoughts?
Uh I think that there's there's a lot of different things that uh like is you're talking about the but the body armor and everything like that.
I usually when I would see people get shot, they would because it's a larger caliber bullet, you know, there'd be a huge mist, you know, of a blood sp uh spatter when it happens.
Yes.
So I think that the theory that a ricochet is a good one.
Or it could have been um I think maybe there could have been a subsonic round in there from someone out from another location.
Uh I don't know, but uh the exit that that uh whole you know the bullet hole in his neck was rather large.
It could have been an exit wound even.
Well uh Yeah, if the bullet deflected, it would be going sideways and spread out even if it was an FMJ.
And I'd say we wait till the on top of the be able to track the bullet channel.
If it didn't come out backside of him, it's probably stuck in his cranial area somewhere.
Yeah, I think the the the idea that the the deflection of the bullet would cause a larger entry wound for sure, right?
Yeah.
Damn it, and it if it because they were they were saying that with the deflection, the bullet would then be on an upward trajectory, so instead of you know, piercing and going through and out the back, it would be going more up and like you said, toward the cranial cavity.
And that I mean, and that's another thing, like that's a kill shot.
Like you don't you just don't survive that.
I mean, there there's no I don't know.
I'm not again I'm not doctor, but I mean I've heard doctors talk about it.
I've heard a couple actually.
That sort of injury is you have like a point zero one or zero zero one percent chance of surviving that.
So with all the arteries.
Your your nerves and everything in your neck area is very well, and then they were also saying that it that trajectory also could have hit the spinal cord, which is another instant death injury, right?
So it's like I mean, I I mean, and it's it's horrific that we even have to talk about this really, but they pull it out.
Anyway, all right.
I appreciate the call, and and that's a good point.
I mean, it's something to consider the body armor aspect.
They haven't released anything publicly.
But for one man still drinking it it's reasonable based on what we saw to say that it was possible.
I think that ginger ginger guy did a good breakdown on it.
Okay.
Well, we'll check it out, yeah.
All right, brother, thanks for the call.
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Your host Craig James, and uh we're with Nick No, our co-host.
Nick, I I think that the caller brought up a good point, you know, about the body armor aspect and the idea that it could have been a deflection.
I don't know.
I think I saw the videos he's talking about about explaining it.
I again I'm not a ballistics expert, so probably have to defer to somebody who's an expert on that to To really get an idea, but and whatever perhaps the autopsy says or whatever, but it explains some of the the weird things.
Like you were saying a bullet coming through, there'd be like a mist, right?
And and you don't know, maybe the mist didn't translate the camera.
I don't know.
And the bullet hole would probably be smaller.
But again, I've actually also seen videos where the bullets, you know, they create a large cavity when they enter because of the the expansion of the air, right?
In a place without air.
Yeah.
So that might be I mean, that's literally what we saw is there was a his his whole neck got like bigger like a frog or a toad, you know, when it blows up its neck.
And it's because uh A, he's obviously his body's going limp because he's losing blood so quickly, and he's kind of like slouching back in the chair.
Um, but B, then you see the blood come out.
It's I'm sorry if this is too graphic for air, but it's just it's it's what happened.
So Yeah, there's some stuff you can't fake.
Uh the physiological reaction that happened after you got hit is is uh something you can't fake.
You can't go from being alive and talking to that it's just not fakeable.
I mean, maybe it's fakeable with AI in a in a digital sense, perhaps, but you're not gonna be able to fake that in front of a thousand or two thousand or three thousand people who are standing ten feet away from you.
You know, without a lot of things that I just again I I ask prosthetic necks and and these squib blood packs and and to what end are we even doing this to Charlie and why would he even volunteer to do it?
You know, and and what's he why would he be in witness protection to what end of that?
You know, it's it's just you have to answer so many hypotheticals and unknowns, it's just it's ridiculous to even attempt to to try to figure that out.
Um but somebody texted in and said an interesting point.
Alex Jones talked about a possible shooter in the staircase behind Charlie to his right, and they asked what our thoughts are on that.
I saw that video actually, I watched it where Alex Jones breaks down this this theory on a video where he said you see a gun flash or a muzzle flash from a window, and I don't see the muzzle flash when he played the video.
I don't see what he's saying he sees.
There's clearly a guy standing at a window looking down from a corner behind Charlie.
But I mean, I I don't he he was giving some explanation about how I don't have you seen that video, Nick.
Yeah, I I don't think that that was where the shooter was, but it is possible.
Um and don't forget, there's a drone too that was flying over the top that's weird.
I saw that video.
I don't know what's going on with that drone.
I don't know if that's a drone that they were using for like videography, perhaps, for the event.
Because you know, when you're at an event like that, they use a drone to get drone shots, you know, of the event.
They'll have a drone flying around to show how big the crowd is and get to get B roll and stuff like that.
So I thought at first that was my initial instinct is like that must be the drone they're using for B roll and crowd shots.
Yeah, I figured that someone pointed out that it looks a lot like uh these really expensive drones you you could get um that the military can use that are designed to not have a recoil or move when they fire bullets out of it.
Um I thought that was interesting, but I you know obviously I couldn't see a clear enough image of the drone itself to know that would be true.
You know, that that's a good thing.
Yeah, I mean, and and I don't know.
I'm again I'm not a uh I'm I'm not you you probably would know well more about this, a lot more than that this than I do, but I don't know how easy it would be to pull off a neck shot from 200 yards with a drone that's moving, you know, however many miles per hour right because it would it couldn't have been hovering or else people would have looked up and seen it.
So it had to be moving.
It So like to I don't know that that's even like possible, I would say.
Definitely less likely, I think, but it's possible.
I'd say less likely is a good way of putting it.
So speaking of drones, um that's one of the things I want to talk about.
Okay, so one of the things that's crazy, and I want to do the show with you, Nick.
The plan was for last Friday's show or Thursday, even the plan was we were going to do this UAP hearing.
We were going to listen to clips from it and talk about it.
And this happened, this this hearing on Capitol Hill, chaired by uh Annapolly and Luna, where they brought in these whistleblowers, army and and military guys who know who said they've seen UFOs, they released this crazy video of clearly a what what you can clearly see is a drone dodging a hellfire missile.
Um I just reposted that I'm gonna repost these as clips as we go through on my my uh social media X account, which is the only really the only social media account that I use if you want to interact with me online, uh, that's at just informed the number one, so just the number one there, just informed one.
And uh I'll post these clips as we go through them, but the day before Charlie Kirk gets assassinated, they have this hearing on Capitol Hill where they talk about Bob Lazar, they talk about secret, you know, spacecraft programs, they talk about reverse engineering, alien technology, and this is not like some show on the history channel.
This is in Congress with serious Congressmen and women taking this very seriously, and this is all in the being read into the record.
And they released this video which had never been seen before, and the video shows what appears to be a UAP, an unidentified aerial phenomena, but more it's it's one of those little orbs that are moving faster than you know the mock of some of these jets,
and they have a MQ-9 Reaper drone which fires an AGM 114 hellfire missile at this unidentified object, and you literally see in real time this orb as the missile comes into the screen because it's being tracked on a camera, it you can see it literally just in real time, like just dodge the missile.
And this is like a capability that no aircraft that we know about has.
There is no, right, Nick?
I mean, at least not publicly disclosed.
There are no am I am I uh wrong that to say that there are no publicly disclosed aircrafts that the military acknowledges that we have in our arsenal or in our in our equipment that could dodge uh a hellfire missile, an AGM 114 hellfire missile in that way that you see on that video.
Yeah, where it's coming down from the top.
Uh there's pretty much nothing that you could do.
Uh you wouldn't see it coming and might have some indicator lights come on or something.
I don't know.
It I to me it looked like uh Yeah, there's some sort of uh do you see the video on Did you see the video I shared?
I I did, and it looked like it obviously as fast as it can move, it would you have to have something that cancels out the uh inertia and everything else like that, so that you wouldn't feel any G forces.
Well, not only that, I mean it could have been a drone.
Like the way it happens, though, like, so you're see you see it, because you were you were this is your territory.
I I'm not gonna try to stay up on your toes here because you're the expert, as far as I'm concerned.
This is kind of you what you did, right?
Like what we're seeing here is kind of your wheelhouse.
You and people don't know you can tell them about your your work history if you want, but um I mean you're watching this orb move, and this hellfire missile just comes, you know, and those missiles, how fast do those missiles go?
They go faster than jets, right?
I think they can Boost it as it gets closer to go faster.
I don't know what mock they go, but it's it's well above anything because I mean you you imagine for a missile to go from one to hit a plane, it has to be going faster than it, right?
So you have this missile that goes faster than jets, you know, supersonic coming in.
I think it's supersonic, but I don't know.
And I mean, this this orb just literally, as the missile's about two feet away, just jumps forward like you know, fifty feet, and just the missile just m misses it entirely.
Like that's not possible with anything we have or know of, right?
Well, that's yeah, that's public at least, yeah.
That's public, exactly.
So this is this is the video that's released.
This hearing happens, and again, the next day, Charlie Kirk has a bullet through his neck, and I have not heard one person talk about this since.
Not to mention they had the round table discussion Ron Johnson did on vaccines, where they identified that not it's not just the COVID vaccine, but it's in almost the entire vaccine schedule that is poisonous for children and adults in some cases, not a doctor, not medical advice.
But that's what they seem to be determining that they have these poisonous adjutants in it.
But they had this hearing, and they had all these different people come forward and give testimony.
Dylan Borland among them, um, Dylan Borland, they had George Knapp, um, they had uh I think Lou Elizondo.
Um, and they told us a lot of very crazy stories about these craft and what they can do.
So I want to play some of the clips of the testimony.
Let's start here with um this is George Knapp.
Listen to this.
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Starting with that, Nick.
I mean, I I know Charlie Kirk's death is big and it's important, and it and it's it's gonna be a turning point for this country.
But and in all deference and respect to Charlie's family, Charlie, and his memory, not to make it seem as though that's that's not important, but this should be the biggest story in the country right now, right?
In the world, really.
Yeah, it's it's pretty important because if we can figure out how to reverse engineer that stuff, then we we would not have any issues with power, any issues with communications.
Um the first crash we retrieved in Roswell, we got night vision from because of the lenses they wore their eyes.
Um they pop off and so basically we got night vision, we got uh fiber optics, we got lasers.
They that's where we found a laser for the first time, the one uh you know, that's powerful, like a small surgical type of laser.
Anyway, um I'll explain more when we come back.
Yeah, I don't I'm sorry about the commercial break.
We have these.
But um I mean, acknowledging that there are materials that are not from this world that were recovered and are being held secretly by private corporations like Lockheed Martin.
You'd think that might be a bigger story, but it now nobody's talking about it.
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Welcome back to Swarm Talk Radio.
I'm your host, Craig James, and you know, we're talking about this UAP hearing that took place the day before Charlie Kirk got shot.
And you know, this should be the biggest story in the country right now, but it's not.
And one of the weird things that happened here that another part of this story that people are forgetting or you know, not talking about anymore, is the fact that you know I think it was Grosh, David Grosh, if I'm not mistaken.
And Luna, I think.
Coming out and basically saying that, you know, they were approached by people in this, you know, in in who knows what organization or with what government NC or whatever, and they were they flashed a weapon at them and basically told them that they need to stop doing this.
I mean, this is a sitting congresswoman, too, by the way.
That they were they were intimidated.
I want to play a bit of that clip here.
Let's uh let's play this.
David Grosh, who came forward to News Nation, helped us, as you know, write the story wide open.
Um, something weird happening to him while he was on his way to meet with lawmakers.
Let me play this for you and get your take on the other side.
Law enforcement is involved, but in my opinion, if you are going to brandish any weapons at Congressional Staffers, it's very alarming.
And um I will leave it at that.
But what I can tell you is it was very interesting in timing, and based on what we've heard previously with some of these witnesses, to include some witness uh testimony that you're here tomorrow.
This is not the first documented case of this, which is incredibly important as to how do we address this in the future.
Yeah, this this made news, it made headlines last night, but it was kind of cryptic.
Um do you know anything more about that and what she's referencing, Lou?
I I do.
I I cannot comment on an active law enforcement investigation, but what I will say is what uh what Congresswoman Luna is doing is absolutely correct.
Uh she is shining light on uh the tactics of intimidation that folks like David Grush, myself, and many other whistleblowers have had to face uh simply just for coming out and telling the truth.
And I'll tell you what, too.
I think today you might hear some little bit more about that, about other types of intimidation tactics of of some of our brave men and women in uniform and what the lengths of government will go to to keep their mouth shut on this topic.
All right.
So Nick, I mean it's weird to listen to this and understand the timing of it all.
I don't think it's it's set in for me until I started going through these clips again this morning, preparing for the show, uh, and last night when I realized, you know, you have Annapolly and Luna saying that you know you have members of law enforcement brandishing weapons at her staffers, and then there's other forms of intimidation, basically threats of death if they go into this topic.
And then the very next day, the most prominent conservative political force person in the country has his neck blown open in front of the whole world.
Now, I'm not saying that there's some correlation between what happened to Charlie in this UAP hearing and and Pauline Luna.
But I mean, the timing could not be more suspicious, right?
Yeah.
It's uh it is interesting, you know, and she was threatened by a Ukrainian hit squad.
The guy who was running against her before she won had threatened her, saying that he could get a Ukrainian hit squad over to assassinate her if she doesn't drop out of the race.
And he wasn't kidding.
It it it's a real problem.
No, that's a real story, too.
That's not we're not making that up.
That was and I don't mean that you would make it up, I just mean you're not just reporting that off of some tweet you saw.
I mean, that's like a verified story.
Yes, it's true.
And to me, I'm thinking um, you know, there's there's a lot more going on here that meets the eye.
She she uh she takes money from APEC, I think, personally, so I'm not sure if it has anything to do with it.
But uh I I know that there are works right now.
President Trump is basically saying he at least this is I don't know if it's true, but that Gur Gersh or Gurish, I don't know how to say his name, Gersh or David Grush.
Rush, David Grush, uh he is going to be able to um decide or help have a panel of people decide what technologies are released and which ones are not based upon their dangers and their benefit to society.
Um kind of way that the way the MJ 12 did.
But the only difference is this time they're gonna be people that are they're only not uh only people that are not involved with these programs.
They can come and provide materials or provide uh you know equations or work that they've done, but they can't contribute to the decision on what to do with the technology.
Um there's there's that element that okay, so for example, there's a there's a government within the government, and usually the president doesn't control that.
It's like an immune system per se for the ET kind of stuff.
Um but it and then you know it it they by any means necessary, make sure it's kept quiet.
Um but at this point they no longer have that option, and uh I think that it is possible that they are and are trying to threaten him and her about it because um you know they're lashing out because they don't have control anymore.
If you don't have control over these crazy technologies, then um you don't you can't control the people, and that's taken away their their abilities, you know.
I agree.
I want to play another clip from that hearing.
This is Dylan Borland outlining an encounter he had with a black triangle UFO.
Listen to this.
Uh Mr. Borland, in your testimony, you described witnessing large triangular craft while stationed at Langley Air Force Base in 2012.
Can you explain what you observed in terms of size behavior and why you're confident it was not conventional technology?
Great question, ma'am.
Um so on barracks on the base.
I lived in the barracks.
There was a little smoke pit outside.
I was there uh on the telephone and looking across to the flight line, and I see a white light pop up and stop about a hundred feet in the air.
I thought it was a weather balloon.
I've seen tests from there before, uh weeknight, you know, normal thing, not surprising.
I uh actually finish my cigarette and I began walking up towards the flight line.
There is a track, and because I was on three months of night work, I began I would walk the track at night when we were weathered down.
And as I began walking towards the light, towards the flight line and the track, the light then flies across the base across the flight line, and as it flies to me, a triangle manifests around the light.
I can't tell you if it's active camouflage.
I can't tell you if it appeared around the light, but I can tell you that it was a white light, and then it was a triangle.
It stopped about a hundred feet in front of me and approximately a hundred feet above me.
My tell telephone got extremely hot, completely froze, dead.
Um I remember how thick it was.
It was between one and two stories thick, equilateral triangle.
I could never see the top of it, and the edges were 90 degree 90 degrees.
There were four lights in total, uh, one light on each corner and a larger light in the center, two to three times the size of the corner lights.
But what was really odd was the outside, the best way to describe it is like looking at a James Webb telescope picture where you have the colors and then the black background.
So the craft itself was this black metallic flake paint, but on top of the craft was this gold lava, plasma, some type of fluid going over and around the craft.
I'm under this for about two to three minutes.
Um, and then the center light flashes two to three times, no sound, immediately shoots up to commercial jet level minimum, in my opinion.
Um, and I immediately feel static electricity all over my body, and then I smell the smell of after a thunderstorm or lightning storm, that uh really strong summer thunderstorm smell.
Gets up to flight level.
Um, I'm trying to get my phone reset, and I can only see the center light at this point.
If I didn't actually see it take off, I would have thought it was a star.
Um, and then it hovers up there and it begins to slowly move due east out over the Atlantic Ocean.
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I'm your host Craig James with Nick No.
Nick, we heard that incredible story there from uh Dylan.
You know what it sounds like he's describing there is what we kind of commonly know as uh the UAP or not excuse me, not UAP, the TR3B, right?
Am I wrong?
Yes, that's a TR3B, and um that it could have been the earlier model or the TR3B Astra.
Um so there's a there's one that used spinning Mercury in the center to zero out the the G forces so they can travel.
Um but they sounded like the more advanced one whenever he talked about it because it can't it phased in and out.
The other one has to my understanding as cloaking too, but uh the way he described the flow of the plasma coming around it, um I'm thinking that it's the newer version because the newer version has uh different different drives in it for uh omnidirectional drives and stuff like that.
Uh I don't know, I I think that it was it was our own TR3B that he was describing.
Um I've I've seen one of them that basically hit a field.
I've seen a there's a a field being generated, uh let's just say, and I've seen one where the cloaking was basically stopped because it disrupted the energy pattern that um phases it out of visual um visibility.
Basically um electrically phasing differently, if you phase it the right way, a certain percentage uh out of phase, then you can you can have invisibility, but if you go further than that point, then you go into hyperspace, and when you go into hyperspace, um you don't have physical form, there's an absence of physical form.
And that's the the issue at hand uh when you go into hyperspace, that's why you have to have a field protect you while you're in hyperspace.
So what he was seeing as the orb would be them uh you know being getting ready to phase back into this reality.
Um and uh that energy field that they're seeing is the energy field that um actually protects the pilots whenever they phase in and out of uh this existence here.
So like I said, uh when they phase into hyperspace or like you know, if they go further than just cloaking, that's when you'll see the orb type stuff going on, and you can't really shoot it or anything.
It's it's it's it's physically not there, but the energy field you can still see it because it's like it's right in between when it phases all the way across over into hyperspace.
So you're saying that the orbs that we're seeing are actually space are actually craft, but that the reason we perceive them as orbs is because they're phased in between dimensions.
Yeah, yeah, because um once you go past a certain percentage, I don't want to say what it is, because I I don't want to give that away.
Um you go into hyperspace, and if when you go to hyperspace, it's basically the absence of form.
So when I say that, the energy field that holds us together, no one ever accounts for that in physics.
They don't tell they could tell you how fast a car was going when it crunched into another car based upon XYZ, but they can't tell you what the energy, you know, the energy is that's holding us together.
And that's what you call the quantum field.
It's all one big piece.
And so when you phase out of the this existence, physical existence and into the quantum field or quantum or uh hyperspace absence of physical form, then uh yeah, you have those effects, and um that's it's pretty typical.
And I and also with those with those if you do see orbs, it could be that someone is using uh uh uh like a looking glass type type technology to look uh there and that in that spot.
I don't know.
It's let me play one more clip.
Let me play one more clip here.
Um just this is George Knapp on Bob Lazar.
This is again at an open hearing in Congress, they're talking about Bob Lazar.
Listen to this.
Back in 1989, I reported about a guy named Bob Lazar who claimed that he worked at a facility dubbed S4 out in the Nevada Desert, very near to Area 51.
He said he was part of a reverse engineering program.
He said there are alien craft that were being taken apart to figure out how they operated out there, and that's it was a pretty tall order.
I had clearly taken a dive into the deep end of the pool there.
But in the years since then, I've interviewed dozens of other people, and I've detailed what they're doing back in 19 and he went on.
I I have the longer clip, but we don't have time for it.
But um, Bob Lazar at S4, Nick, I mean.
Is that is so that's what they figured out with these craft is that they can phase into that quantum field, or they can phase out of this the energy like it's crazy because I understand in principle what you're saying that the craft are moving fast.
The reason we observe them as orbs is because they're phasing out of the perceivable field, right?
Like the perceived if you try to hit them.
If you try to hit them too at that point, even though you see it, it won't do anything.
Do you think that if you're moving that in that realm that that would explain why that orb dodges that missile so easily?
Because I mean, to them, the missile must have been coming like in slow motion.
Yeah.
Slow, slow motion.
So it's kind of uh, you know, so the fact that they waited until that moment is like uh like it was moving so slow that they didn't need to move ahead of time.
They they could wait for it to be a foot away and then just whoop, you know, like move.
Yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
That's insane, man.
I I don't even know what to say.
And I encourage anybody out there listening to go research this stuff for yourself.
Uh I tried to share it on my social media.
I tried to post all these clips for reference.
Uh at I'm on uh X.com.
My handle there is at just informed the number one.
But um it's just wild, man.
And it makes sense.
Everything you're saying makes sense, Nick.
I don't know what to make of it, but I and I don't know what if it's even remotely connected to what happened to Charlie.
But I do know that this happened on Tuesday, and then on Wednesday, Charlie's dead, and then on Thursday, I haven't since Thursday after Charlie's death, I haven't heard one person talk about this.
Um do with that what you will.
Stay tuned, we're coming back.
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Welcome back, Justin Form Talk Radio.
I'm your host, Craig James.
And uh we're wrapping up today.
But crazy, you know, that all this happened and you know, we had Charlie Kirk die, and then not much was said about it.
So fascinating to talk about, but uh it's our final segment, so we're gonna wrap it up, Nick.
Final thought for the show.
Uh if people want to know about that, look up a TR3B and then the Aurora and the SR seventy five and SR seventy-four.
Um to look up if you want to try and research that.
And they use the Bayfield Brown effect created by a large electrostatic charge.
And uh that's one of the first that was the first TR3B.
Um after that they had the more exotic stuff.
Uh so anyway, uh, if you if you want to look up that, you can, and remember that we're out here winning.
They are shaking in their boots.
We've got them cornered, they're behaving like cornered animals for a reason.
Keep pressing over that hill.
We're almost there.
And uh don't forget, in the end, God wins.
Awesome.
Great words, Nick.
Thank you for sharing that.
I agree.
And uh leave you guys with some uh scripture and and I want to talk about the folly of human wisdom.
First Corinthians chapter three says in verse 18 to the end, it says, No one should deceive himself.
If anyone among you thinks he is wise in this age, he must become foolish so that he may become wise.
For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God, since it is written, he catches the wise in their craftiness.
And again, the Lord knows that the reasonings of the wise are meaningless.
So no one should boast in human leaders, for everything is yours, whether Paul or Apollos or Cephas or the world or life or death or things present or things to come.
Everything is yours, and you belong to Christ, and Christ belongs to God.
And I want to remind everybody out there that you know we talk about some of these subjects, and they can be scary, or they can be, you know, sort of mystifying, or they can be uh in some cases unexplainable.
But oftentimes that's because we're trying to figure this things at these things out with the wisdom of man.
And what does it say there?
The wisdom of this world is foolishness with God.
So that's my message for all of you out there is that excuse me, is that if you're gonna take this, take it with the understanding that there is an awesome and omnipotent and omniscient God whose son came to sacrifice himself for our sins so that we can make sense of this world in a way that's beyond what we're being offered in it.
So that's my last message to you.
And if you haven't accepted Jesus as your Lord and Savior, open your heart, say a prayer, call upon his name, accept him as your Lord and Savior, and he will provide you with the discernment and clarity and and oh and a path and a and a grace and a hope and a living future that is really amazing.
We're thankful for that.
And we're thankful to you listening, callers, textures, uh, Nick.
Thankful.
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