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Welcome to another Justin Form Talk Radio Show.
I'm your host, Craig James, and today is going to be a great show.
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And, you know, I have a feeling it's going to be a good day.
I'm actually, I'm actually quite looking forward to it.
Now, uh, as always, I'm never looking forward to some of these topics we have to talk about, a lot of them dark and and unfortunate, but we're also going to share with you the gospel of Jesus Christ, and there's hope in that that is everlasting, that only uh that can not only transcend this fallen world, but can also offer eternal salvation.
So there is hope, but today we're gonna get into the news because I always start there.
The idea being let's get through the things that are happening right now.
That's what you're here for.
You're here for the news, and I hope you're also here for the gospel.
So we're gonna get into all of that.
Uh some big stories to start with here today.
I'd like to begin with uh of course following up more on the Charlie Kirk saga.
So many different, you know, uh paths you can take with understanding this story.
Tucker Carlson aired a sort of uh tribute show slash memorial show, whatever you want to call it, remembering Charlie Kirk and having a bunch of different guests on, and they talked about many different things.
Tucker gave his um sort of explanation of his relationship with Charlie, and spoke a lot about Israel, of course.
Because Israel is, of course, the main topic for many.
Unfortunately, I think we should remember the themazing work for the evangelical work that Charlie did spreading the gospel, but even so uh Israel's become quite a topic.
And we talked about it in yesterday's show, but yesterday's show was chaotic and hectic, and it was difficult to get through because of if you listened yesterday, you know, you'll understand.
I'm sure there perhaps is a podcast out there that you could go listen to if you're really interested to see what kind of chaos we we were dealing with yesterday.
But I didn't get a chance to focus on a lot of different aspects of the story.
We kind of briefly hit on different things, and then we had Henry join us from God's Feeding Station talk about some great stuff, and uh we're gonna have him with us again, probably later uh in the second hour, so he may join us to kind of finish up since we kind of lost him uh about you know uh halfway through uh yesterday's show.
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And uh hopefully you guys joined us and your fast went well, and you guys got a lot of good prayers in and everything went well for you.
But uh, yeah, back to the whole Tucker Carlson thing.
So Tucker had this sort of a memorial show yesterday, and he talked about a lot of different things.
He had people like Megan Kelly and um what's that guy's name?
Oh, Scott.
I don't know why I'm drawing a blank on his name.
The guy who did the Dilbert cartoons, he was on Tucker's show.
They had some conversations and others.
Um what they talked about really was Charlie Kirk, his memory, the left, you know, the the standard talking points.
But Tucker did make a point to explain the the the relationship that was observed by him and his interactions with Charlie and uh with regard to Israel and Bibi Netanyahu.
Here's one example.
Let's play this clip.
He did not like Bibi Netanyahu, and he said that to me many times, and he said to People around him many times.
He felt that Bibi Netanyahu was a very destructive force.
He was appalled by what was happening in Gaza.
He was above all resentful that he believed Netanyahu was using the United States to prosecute his wars for the benefit of his country, and that it was shameful and embarrassing and bad for the United States, and he resented it.
Didn't hate Netanyahu.
He wasn't out there with a placard saying that.
But he certainly expressed that to me and a lot of other people.
And there's no question that Bibi's defenders on the internet will call me a liar or a kook.
But that's a fact.
And enough text messages exist that I think it can probably be verified in pretty short order, not that it needs to be, because that is true.
Shortly after that speech, there was a very intense attack on Charlie, and to some extent of me, not that I really noticed.
But on him, I have no donors.
He had a hundred million dollars worth of donors.
And so because he was involved in a different project from just yapping on the internet, which is what I do for a living.
Um he was dependent to a great extent on his donors, of course.
It's a nonprofit.
And they went after him and tormented him.
Not all, of course, many were supportive, but uh the ones who were offended by my speech, and there was a small, very intense group who were tormented Charlie Kirk until the day he died.
Yeah.
And that's just the tip of the iceberg here, because Tucker goes into people like Seth Dylan, the head or the I guess the the leader or head of the Babylon Bee, who is a very pro-Israel, pro-Zionist, you know, individual who uh you know had this relationship with Charlie that seemed to be one of contentious uh, you know, contention after the Israel stuff came out.
And even beyond that, uh, it talks about this crazy meeting that took place in the Hamptons, right?
We touched on this briefly yesterday, but apparently there was what they are calling um some kind of like leadership summit, you know, with breakout groups at a at a very you know fancy mansion in the Hamptons where uh,
you know, dozens of influencers were invited by you know very rich elites to discuss the future of America and in short order it turned into a sort of struggle session for Israel,
it sounds like and Israeli support to say, you know, you need to get on board or you know, and they were pressing pressing Charlie and his organization and and giving him apparently grief and a hard time over the fact that he was having people like Dave Smith and Tucker Carlson and Meghan Kelly and others uh attend and speak at these TPUSA conferences because they were speaking a message that was not
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And I mean, look, I've said it, I'll say it.
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And let me just say, for all intents and purposes, what's happening in Gaza and Israel is horrific.
Uh again, I I don't mean on just one side, but it is quite obvious and apparent that one side is winning and the other side is getting slaughtered.
Okay.
That's not to say that there is blame, not blame that there's no blame that could be put around, but it is crazy what's happening there, but it beyond that, even, which is a horrific thing, you know, there are Christians in Gaza being slaughtered right now, which is horrific, not to mention uh uh every anyone being slaughtered is horrific, but it's just to to put it in context for Christians here in America.
But beyond that, we'll get into the Israel America relationship thing too when we come back, because that's what this really ties into.
Stay tuned.
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I'm your host, Craig James, and we're gonna keep going in this direction that we're on.
Um not because I want to do this, be quite fair.
I I think it's important that we remember people for who they were, and and this is a part of who Charlie was in his evolving, you know thoughts and views.
And what's fascinating to me is that you're gonna see over time now how people continually try to rewrite what we know is fact and what was be bearing out, you know, being bared out through actions, particularly by Kirk and others, but Kirk in specific regard to this, you know, issue as having an evolving thought, and it was happening, and then he dies.
And then people are optimistically taking this, you know, time to say, oh, well, like BB Netanyahu goes out there and takes the memory of Charlie Kirk and instantly starts trying to leverage it to you know produce support for his war and his effort in the state of Israel, and trying to say that Kirk would you know Kirk would have wanted us to keep bombing, you know, Gaza because he was really uh he was Israeli at heart, you know.
And I'm not he didn't say that specifically, but it's the sort of you can read between the lines on that.
And I've I talked about in yesterday's show.
I played that uh great clip from Kirk Cameron where he talks about you know the fact that Israel's a state's only existed since um nineteen forty-eight, and that this was politically created state that n does not necessarily have Any actual tie back to the biblical tribes,
the the twelve tribes and and what biblically we've come to kind of recognize as Israel, which was a person then was a set of tribes, but I digress.
And I want to play some of these clips because I do think they're very important, particularly for understanding how we got to where we are.
And the first one is this clip from Tucker about the TPUSA event that he was a part of.
And it sort of goes through a lot of the claims we're talking about here.
Let's listen to it.
And I said, uh, you know, probably not going to talk about that.
I'm not going to torture you.
I know your donors hate this when I say that.
Um and also Epstein was in the news, and it was clear to me that, you know, Epstein's probably not like a Mossad agent or something, but Epstein clearly had contact with Israeli intelligence and American intelligence and French intelligence, but the only one you're not allowed to talk about is Israeli intelligence.
But it's it seemed true to me, and I had done uh some work on that, and I knew a bunch of people pretty close to that story.
So I thought that.
And I said that to Charlie, and I said, But I'm not going to say that because I don't want to make your donors mad.
I know it's just going to be like an endless flurry of texts telling you to stop or you're going to lose a bunch of funding.
And he looked at me, I'll never forget it, and said, Go all the way.
Do it.
Go all the way.
I said, Man, I, you know, a lot of things I can talk about.
I don't need to talk about that.
And he said, do it.
So I did it.
By the way, I think that that conversation hit a mic on, and so did I, probably exists somewhere on somebody's server, but that's I think a faithful rendition of what he said.
Um by the way, I'm not trying to blame him for my remarks.
You can agree or disagree with those remarks, but I'm saying this only because I was uh shocked and sickened by the reaction of the ghoulish and really repulsive reaction of the Prime Minister of Israel, Benjamin Netanyahu, to Charlie's death.
Basically made it all about him and all about his country, immediately trying to take the energy, the sadness, the grief that people felt over Charlie's murder, and redirect it towards support for whatever project he's involved in.
And by the way, Benjamin Netanyahu is not the same as the nation of Israel at all.
Uh Bibi is despised by many people uh in Israel, and if you know people who live there, you know that that's true.
Um there are huge divisions within the Israeli government.
I mean, there are certain parts of the the Intel world uh in Israel that do not support some things that Benjamin Netanyahu has done recently.
So it's not the same as attacking Israel, attacking Bibi, but I I don't think I've ever seen anything lower than his attempt to hijack Charlie's memory and use it for his own political ends, particularly because what he said was completely untrue.
Charlie didn't hate Jews, he loved Jews.
He had tons of friends who were Jews, he loved the state of Israel, he loved going there.
He did not like Bibi Netanyahu, and he said that to me many times, and he said to people around him many times.
He felt that Bibi Netanyahu was a very destructive force.
He was appalled by what was happening in Gaza.
He was above all resentful that he believed Netanyahu was using the United States to prosecute his wars for the benefit of his country, and that it was shameful and embarrassing and bad for the United States, and he resented it.
Didn't hate Netanyahu.
He wasn't out there with a placard saying that.
But he certainly expressed that to me and a lot of other people.
And there's no question that Bibi's defenders uh on the internet will call me a liar or a kook.
Uh but that's a fact.
And enough text messages exist that I think it can probably be verified in pretty short order, not that it needs to be, because that is true.
Um shortly after that speech, there was a very intense attack on Charlie, and to some extent on me, not that I really noticed, but on him, I have no donors.
He had a hundred million dollars worth of donors.
And so because he was involved in a different project from just yapping on the internet, which is what I do for a living.
Um he was dependent to a great extent on his donors, of course.
It's a nonprofit.
And they went after him and tormented him.
Not all, of course, many were supportive, but uh the ones who were offended by my speech, and there was a a small, very intense group who were tormented Charlie Kirk Until the day he died.
Two days before he died, he lost a two million dollar donation because he had publicly pledged to bring me to the next turning point conference in December.
And he told me over the past couple of months he was losing a lot of donations over that pledge.
They put out a flyer basically saying that I was going to be at this event giving a speech.
And so he would text me and say, Man, I'm really taking a lot of heat for this, and people are really mad.
The American Jewish committee called in a statement, Charlie Kirk, an anti Semite, and quote, dangerous.
Charlie Kirk, an anti Semite.
Yeah.
Um, he was not an anti-Semite.
He was the opposite, and he was not dangerous.
He was a great lover of people and a purveyor of peace.
He was the opposite.
And he was very stung by that.
Those of us who've been called names for a long time are a little bit harder to offend.
Charlie was deeply offended by that and expressed some of those feelings on Megan Kelly's show and in other places.
But that did not let up.
The reason I'm telling the story is because he called me and then came to see me at my house about this topic.
And uh I said to him every single time, look, uh, it's you know, I I've got my own way to communicate my views.
This is actually not the most important issue to me.
There are lots of things I can talk about.
I don't need to come to turning point.
I can take a year off, no problem.
I hated seeing how much he was suffering, the hassle he was getting from people, uh, and I was being attacked too, by the way.
It was a huge effort.
Uh I wasn't fully aware of it, actually, because I don't go online that much, but there was a huge effort by people, some of whom I know and have helped and like Seth Dylan of the Babylon Bee, for example.
Someone who had his own problems with free speech, who was famously canceled.
Um, and I like Seth Dillon.
I had him on a couple of times.
I had dinner with him to show support.
Seth Dylan was out there demanding that Charlie Kirk take me off the roster, pull me off stage because I had said things that Bibi didn't like or that he didn't like or whatever.
Shocking that someone whose whole persona is wrapped up in the idea that we all get to speak, and if you don't like it, make a more compelling case, that that person and many others like him were advocating for me getting pulled off the stage because they don't like what I'm saying.
This is a trend and one that we should be really concerned about.
It's not just about Israel, by the way, at all.
The trend is really simple.
People with power don't want to hear disagreement.
They don't want to be challenged ever.
That's why we have free speech to acknowledge that even those of us or people with less power still have a right to talk because they're human beings.
You don't own them.
So time after time, Charlie would call me or come to see me and let me know.
Wow, or show me text messages.
These people are really mad that you're speaking.
And I would always have the same thought.
Like, I f I feel pretty moderate, actually.
I'm I've never been an Israel hater.
Obviously, I'm not an anti-Semite.
I just don't want to more wars, and I don't want a foreign country humiliating my country and telling us what our laws have to be.
I mean, this seems like pretty basic America first stuff, and he would say, I totally agree with you, but they want you off the stage.
And I would always say, no problem.
And he would say, no, it's important.
It's a matter of principle.
I want you to be there.
Great.
By the way, I'm not accusing anyone of being involved in that murder.
I'm not trying to mutter darkly or imply anything.
We don't there's a lot we don't know about who murdered Charlie and why, but I I don't know, and I'm not gonna pretend that I do.
But I think it's important to say that out loud because it's a fact, and there are many liars out there trying, BB Netanyahu, number one among them, shamefully, who are trying to distort the truth, uh, a truth that I know and can prove.
Wow.
Yeah, that kind of summarizes a lot of it, what Tucker just went through there.
Um not only that, yesterday Candace Owens had a huge podcast about, you know, Charlie Kirk and Israel, and then also went into these donors and this leadership summit in the Hamptons that he attended with Bill Ackman,
this um, you know, I think billionaire Wall Street finance guy who's funding TP USA to a large amount and who happens to be very pro-Israel, who happens to also be pro-Zionist and pro and he is Jewish, it seems.
And and we have to lay these caveats out because they have a very highly weaponized system for basically denigrating your character if you speak negatively about Israel.
And then there are other people out there who speak negatively about Israel who have incredibly sort of vitriolic language that they use.
And they use that with broad generalizations.
Which I, for the life of me, I've tried to tell people it doesn't help your case.
Trust me, I know people who have strong opinions on this, and I tell them it does not help your case to go out in public and say it's the Jews.
And say, Oh, it's all the Jews.
Because A, that's not true.
And they and the people who are saying it is no, it's not true.
And they either are like exhausted to the point where they don't care, which is where I think they want you to be.
They want you to be at a point where you get careless and reckless and you make broad generalizations that make it easy for your argument to be you know destroyed and and to be you know turned around and weaponized against you.
But also I think there's you know, there's just a high level of influence coming from organizations with affiliations that and allegiances that are outside of the United States of America.
And those organizations are very good.
I don't know, I'm trying to think of a good word.
They're very good at what they do when it comes to psychological warfare, manipulation, um, you know, using the the media to spin narratives.
I mean, look at the ADL, look at what they're able to do.
Look at what uh APAC's able to do with their influence in Congress.
Look at what you know, some of these, you know, what we we see and and pres what they present as themselves as being like these these Jewish protectorate organizations, right?
What they're able to do.
I mean, uh Jonathan Greenblad of the ADL is a great example.
I mean, if if you even question Israel, you'll be labeled as an anti-Zemar on their website.
If you even question anything, I mean you're a racist anti-Semite bigot, misogynist, and they're identical to these organizations like the Southern Poverty Law Center, or you go through the list.
There are other organizations that are not uh affiliated with the state of Israel or Jewish community that do the same thing.
So look, we'll come back and keep going, but but there's a lot more to it.
Stay tuned.
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I am your host, Craig James, and this is a tough topic to talk about, to be quite frank.
And the reason is that it's less so now than it really has ever been, but and it and it partially is due to the fact that you know political factions like the left have used words in ways that are so ridiculous that they've made those words lose their meaning to a large degree, like racist and bigot and misogynist and and now anti-Semite.
Because if everything's anti-Semitic, nothing's anti-Semitic, right?
Just like if everything's racist, nothing's racist.
Or whatever you want to inject there.
So they've they've in many ways, they are destroying themselves, but perhaps that's intentional because you know, when you blur the line so drastically, you create uh, you know, chaos and you create confusion, and that's where many of these organizations thrive and end up taking more power and more control.
Many people are saying that now one of the big efforts is going to be uh Patriot Act 2.0 in the wake of Charlie Kirk's death.
They're going to try to use this shock event to do things like restrict speech further, lockdown, which you can't say.
Because I mean, look, look at look at Great Britain and Australia and other countries where you're being arrested for tweeting.
I mean, China.
If you even speak to your family about the C C P in an unfavorable way, you could end up in prison.
But I mean, in Great Britain, if you make a joke about someone, or you uh, you know, say, I don't want my country taken over by these people that aren't from here who are invading our nation and coming here illegally, you'll be the one thrown in prison.
And they may want to bring that to America.
They may want to try to do it here.
And I don't know what, to be quite honest.
I I'm always uh the kind of person if I've said this about Trump.
If he does stuff I like, I commend him if he stuff does stuff I don't like, I say it's wrong.
And whatever the hell's going on with Pam Bondi and this hate speech garbage and this idea that we're gonna have, you know, legislation that's gonna reform speech laws in regard to quote unquote hate speech, or we're gonna prosecute people, it's insane.
Okay.
It's ridiculous.
It's unconstitutional.
It's not right.
And Trump needs to get his head out of the clouds and figure that out quick.
Because Pam Bondi is absolutely she's she's equivalent to Jeff Sessions.
She is Trump's second term's Jeff Sessions.
If you recall, Jeff Sessions, very weak, very ineffective, and quickly washed out as attorney general under the first Trump administration.
But beyond that.
I guess the point I'm trying to make is that you can't talk about stuff because then they'll try to cancel you.
They'll try to cancel me.
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That's the sort of at least the modern progression of your how you are demonized and then attacked in this country.
Or you're beaten over the head with a bike lock in in the street, or you're, you know, chased down an alley and bludgeoned to death.
Or you, you know, you're walking home at 4 a.m. and you get shot by some MS 13 gang members who and then they themselves get shot the next day.
So I just gotta be honest, it's crazy.
We had some texts, and I want to read one of them.
It says, I would guess 75% 75% of the American public, even higher around the world, with these lobby groups, organizations, and the threats from Mossad.
Does it even matter that masses are against what Israel is doing?
I guess they're saying 75% of the American public are against what Israel is doing.
No, it doesn't matter because uh look, you can often I think of that movie Wag the Dog, right?
Where they s and I don't remember the name the movie in great detail because it was probably watched it 20 years ago.
Yeah.
I am that old.
When you start thinking about things in decades, you go, oh wow, man, I'm getting a little older, huh?
Well, it must have been 20 years ago or so when I saw that movie for the first time.
And I recall that when I watched that movie, I mean, it's like the premise or plot of the movie.
I think it's got Dustin Hoffman and some other you know, big A-list actors, or at least that time A-list now.
Who knows what list they're on, right?
Um But there's some actors in there, and they're and it's all about this war in I think it was a fake country.
And it's a fake war, and they just sell it to the American people to I I don't remember what the end goal of it was.
It was like they were selling a fake war to the people that they just manufactured and put on TV that wasn't even real, and the American people believed that it was real, and it was to get more, I guess, contracts for defense, or to it was actually, I think it was to distract from some domestic pol or domestic scandal.
Like kind of like a Bill Clinton Monikalinski type of scandal that they wanted to distract from, so they got some Hollywood producers in and manufactured a fake war, sold it to the American public, and it completely changed the media environment and and shape and shifted the narrative away from that domestic scandal to this foreign, the fake foreign war, right?
And oftentimes, you know, that movie, it kind of uh comes into my mind because I feel like that's what what we see time and again, and it happens in a more in a different way, maybe a more calculated way, maybe a more thoughtful way, Right.
But at the end of the day, I just see that and I'm like, man, that's interesting.
There's some very strange dynamic there of...
Perhaps what we're seeing, I don't know.
What do I know?
But uh I want to play this clip.
This is Megan Kelly with Target Carlson talking about Charlie Kirk.
And uh well, perhaps we'll play it when we come back, so we're about to hit another break.
But yeah, I guess you know, it's hard to talk about this stuff, especially to have a uh public voice about it, like for instance, I'm not Charlie Kirk by any means.
Um but when you talk about this stuff, you become a target.
I know because I've been targeted for talking about a number of things throughout my career.
I mean I'm like banned for life from YouTube, and my all my original accounts on various social media platforms were all deleted.
And I'm not talking about like uh not that it matters, but I mean I was deleted with hundreds of thousands of subscribers and tens of millions of views.
Which today probably doesn't sound like that much, but you know, ten years ago or you know, six, seven, eight years ago, that was that was a lot of traffic.
You know, now you know, some guy sneezes and it gets a million views on TikTok.
But getting long form com content, millions and millions of views was not easy, and I'm I'm not doing it to brag, but I'm just saying they deleted me.
They'll delete you.
If they can't if they delete you and it doesn't work, then they'll delete you in real life.
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I'm your host, Craig James, and...
And you know, like I was saying, if they can't shut you down digitally, if if they if you create a platform like Charlie did where you're unable to be shut down by just cutting you off and throwing you in the digital gulag like they they've done to so many of us, then they will delete you in real life.
And that's exactly what I think happened, Charlie, to be quite honest.
That's what I think happened to Charlie.
I think he started thinking for himself.
But I think on in regard to certain topics and issues that he had never taken the time to really look at, or that had evolved in a way that he realized was not only uh problematic to the people in the grassroots organization he ran,
but also problematic to himself morally as a Christian, as a father, as a husband, as an American that as soon as he started thinking for himself on those things and and developing opinions that were not popular, look what happened.
And you know, you can say all you want about the trans and the left and this kid who shot him.
But it's it.
I doubt it's that simple.
And I said it before, and I'll say it again.
When intelligence agencies get involved with these kind of things, if they do, if there is some nefarious set of individuals working, you know, secretly to to pull off something like this or to influence something like this, they will not get involved without plausible deniability.
That is already built in.
They have an entire narrative that they shape and feed you.
But let's listen to this, Megan Kelly and Tucker Carlson.
There are definitely people who hit Israel who are not anti-Semites or people in Israel who are anti-Semites.
There's a whole range, and then there are like people who have like, you know, religious reasons for wanting to blow up Israel.
Those are all threats.
Why would they be attacking you and let me uh get that clip going again?
Who are not anti-Semites or people in Israel who are anti-Semites?
There's a whole range, and then there are like people who have like, you know, religious reasons for wanting to blow up Israel.
Those are all threats.
Why would they be attacking you and Charlie?
And honestly, I feel like me.
I mean, what is that?
Why attack people who are pretty reasonable, who don't want to get into a fight on the topic, who just want to like have their country thrive.
Why denounce them as dangerous anti-Semites?
What is that?
And let me just underscore for your audience what I had said.
I mean, the sum total of what I had said when they started coming for me, just to show the absurdity of this.
I had said on Piers Morgan that Israel was losing the PR war, that they had lost the Democrats and the Independents, and we're starting to lose the Republican Party in America, and it was time to wrap it up, which was a quote from Donald Trump who had said it a year earlier when he was still a candidate.
Time to wrap it up.
That's what I said about Israel.
And then at turning point at the at the student action uh summit with Charlie, we talked all about Epstein and my appearance there.
It was all about Pam Bondy, frankly.
Right.
And we talked about whether he might possibly be an asset for someone, and I said he might be.
And Israel, yeah, would make sense to me.
Didn't know, but that's one of the things we should consider and look at.
And that will conclude the list of things I said about Israel.
That after two years of going on the air and defending them every week, turned some weird crowd into she's an anti-Semite.
So, I mean, F these people, because it's a lie.
It was even More of a lie about Charlie, who had said even less than me.
He had said nothing.
Like absolutely nothing.
And they and they use those terms about him because he was on the other side of me when we had that discussion.
And because he hosted you, and because he had the nerve to invite Dave Smith in a in a debate because he allowed one side to be represented, and he had the Israel side fully represented too.
So this was just such an unfair accusation.
And I don't know why.
Um the you know, these very ardent advocates don't accept friendship when you offer it.
When you when you've proven that you are genuinely a friend.
I've said openly, Tucker, there's no I'm not, I don't want to debate.
I'm on their side.
There's no reason to put somebody on this show so they can convince me that Israel's right.
I'm on their side.
I agree with that.
But in response to those comments, and then ultimately having Marjorie Taylor Green on where we we criticized APAC.
I mean, who defends a lobbyist group?
Um, they treat me like I was Medi Hassan.
Not everybody, you know, but like the loudest Israel defenders.
And though and to turn around and call Charlie Kirk an anti-Semite is such a disgusting smear.
Then you're right, he's young.
You know, he will he was young and wasn't used to being attacked like that by people who supported him and people whose donations are actually really important to the ongoing existence of his organization.
And it took a lot for him to say no to them, and it took a lot for him to be honest about the fact that his opinions had evolved.
And let's face it, Charlie was like an unofficial spokesperson for the youth of America, in particular, conservative youth.
And I don't know if people have checked, but they no longer support Israel.
And everybody under 30 is against Israel.
Charlie was 31.
And so, as a friend, he's he's saying to them, the same way I, as a friend, I'm saying, I am telling you, you you've lost Dem's independence and you're starting to lose Republicans.
It you need to wrap it up.
You've had a two-year long leash.
I know you want your hostages back, but it this cannot go on until you have every hostage back.
That's just not going to you're you're going to lose every friend you have.
And that's what he was saying because that's what he was hearing from his constituency.
And so what he did to them was brave and noble to the donors who who were very, very pro-Israel.
It was brave and it was noble.
He did not deserve to be smeared over it.
Yeah.
Well, interesting.
I mean it gets crazier too.
When you start hearing about this Bill Ackman, Hampton's retreat, influencer summit, whatever you want to call it.
It just gets crazier.
Um so we'll we'll talk about that a little bit and uh just keep going.
Stay tuned.
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It's interesting to see the conversation shift.
I mean what are people in the media talking about?
Well, they're talking about Israel and they're talking about it nonstop.
Because I think and I believe wholeheartedly that people like Megan Kelly, people like Tucker Carlson, and many, many others suspect,
they may not know, but they suspect that there was some kind of Israeli involvement in the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
Now they may not say that publicly, they may not even know it privately.
But they I think they in their gut have a feeling.
And they know that they themselves will most likely become the target going into the future.
I got an email from a source who I trust that said this isn't gonna stop.
Now I they were just saying that they made a prediction a while ago that this was something that is it was a possibility that these sort of threats would be would shift and then become targeted at podcasters and high profile influencers.
That those after this was after the Butler assassination attempt.
I have a source I've had him here on the show before.
He's very um got a very let's just say intelligence background.
Right?
We've had him here on before.
And he remains, you know, anonymous for safety reasons.
But he's spoken here on the show, and he said to me in in private, and he said in public with us here that this was what was gonna happen.
And I just got a message from him the other day saying, hey, expect expect more of this.
Okay.
And to be careful.
Because everybody who speaks out against Israel or against these perceived dark, shadowy forces, whatever they may be, Israeli or otherwise, intelligence backed, nefarious, deep state related, that then you will become the target.
And I don't share this stuff because I want to, trust me.
I life would be so much easier if I didn't have to talk about any of this stuff.
It really would.
I I don't get up in the morning and go, man, I can't wait to go on air and talk about the upcoming threats against people who speak out against this stuff and how they're gonna be targeted.
So that's where we're at, folks.
So I've been told that by a very trusted and a very reliable source.
Let's just say close to intelligence.
Alright.
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I'm your host, Craig James.
It's hour two of the Justin Formed Talk Radio Show.
And you know, before the break, I was telling you guys about uh an interaction I had with one of my sources, you know.
And we're also gonna be joined by Henry Loki in the second hour here, so I'm gonna bring him on in a second, but I want to finish that thought.
The message basically said that podcasters and the like would be a big target down the line when things start to get out of hand because they're gonna look for people.
They're gonna look to defeat Trump and his ideas in the U.S. through removing all the mid to low level support since they cannot get to the high-end support and connections.
So the people who this person referenced were Charlie Kirk, Tim Poole, Osmond Gold, Matt Walsh, Candace Owens, Jesse Kelly, just to name a few.
That those are people that are gonna be in the who are not controllable.
Let's just put it that way.
And then they, you know, told me some other stuff that I don't I don't want to share on air because it's not good.
But, you know.
I don't get up and do this because I'm, you know.
I'm afraid, so.
Anyway, let's let's get to our guest.
I want to bring on our good friend from God's feeding station, uh, which I'm so glad he's joining us today.
Uh, Mr. Henry Loki.
Henry, how you doing, sir?
Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no, not again.
Okay.
We're gonna have to reset the system because you're I don't know why you're coming in with that voice again.
Um I don't know what's going on here, folks.
Okay, we're gonna reset.
Uh go ahead and call back.
I'm gonna reset my system.
All right.
So that's mildly horrifying.
It's a good way to start the start the show off in the second hour here.
I don't know what that is.
That might be just some kind of weird system glitch that we're gonna have to work through.
But another thing I wanted to talk about is I shared that message not because again I want to.
It's because it's what I think's the right thing to do.
So I would prepare yourself to I would prepare yourself to see more of this kind of violence.
I pray I'm wrong.
I pray that it this doesn't happen.
I pray that our nation cools down and that there's no more of this politically motivated senseless horrific violence, right?
But at the same time.
I mean, all I know is that what I've seen what I've heard you know, is that this is the kind of thing they have planned.
This is what they have coming down the pipeline.
And so what's so fascinating is that I do want to get into some other stuff, but I don't want to jump the gun on it because there's more but I mean there is some element here that maybe we're being told without being directly told, and that is people are noticing something interesting.
Cash Patel's been using the number 33 a lot.
And for anybody who is unaware thirty-three is the number that is closely related to the highest degree of Mason, I guess you can become a Freemason.
So right after the shooting, he had a press conference and he said this right here.
Uh let me play this clip.
Myself and Deputy Director Bon Gino arrived on the scene at approximately 5 30 p.m. on 9 11.
The governor led a press conference last night at approximately 8 p.m.
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You can get into the esoteric stuff all you want, but it is strange that he's bringing up 33 a lot.
And and it I don't know if there's he's giving us some like coded message, like, hey, this is a direction you should be looking.
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Are we better?
Oh, we're much better now.
You don't you don't sound uh terrifying.
I don't know what that is.
I think it's a it's a problem on my end.
I just I think it's the system.
It It has a some sort of glitch in the matrix there.
But uh I think I think we we need to pray over our gear.
Yeah, yeah, I think we do.
We need to have a freaking exorcism on this computer.
I don't know what's going on.
But two days in a row.
Yeah, no, it but it's happened other it happens to Nick too, and it's I think it's the system.
I don't think it's uh anything about us um particularly.
Um but yeah, Henry, welcome to the show.
Henry Loki from God's feeding station joining us.
We're hitting a break literally in one second.
So we'll come back and we'll we'll go because I I did want you to come back and finish what we were talking about yesterday.
And I think it's good to talk about today the the whole idea of having you know faith over fear.
And especially in regard to that message I shared.
You know, I can talk about it more probably in more detail with you as we go.
But um the threats are real, folks.
Just trust me on that.
I know all too well, and we all know now that we saw what happened to Charlie, so stay tuned.
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Now, back to the show, we got our good friend Henry Loki joining us.
Henry, I know we got cut off by the break.
It's uh it's been interesting.
It's all good.
Trying to get you on, so um I was talking about this whole idea that I've personally done this crazy thing where uh I've met all these people over the years, and I have these crazy people, and I say crazy as in they uh uh I can't even tell you what they do because I don't necessarily know myself, but I'm I know that you know, when you meet these people, you you know who they are.
It's fairly obvious.
Because they know a lot more about you than you know about them.
That's one thing that always happens, right?
But uh, but yeah, no, they they have told me a lot of things over the years, a lot pretty much all of it's come true, and they did warn myself and I think this audience that this is exactly what was going to happen, what we saw happen with Charlie Kirk, and here we are.
Yeah, I think um there's a lot of people that doth protest too much.
Um I don't I don't I have no idea who killed Charlie Kirk.
But uh, and you know, I want this conversation covered by the blood of of Jesus, but um it's starting to feel more and more to me, right?
Again, I you know, I'm just going on how I feel and the things that I see and what I'm reading, and this is starting to feel more and more like a JFK type thing.
Um here's my thing, right?
Charlie went into enemy territory, right?
He went into the heart of the system that is brainwashing our youth into all these I'll say leftist ideals, right?
And he went in there and he preached the truth of the gospel.
Um, and I think, and he just happened to be a conservative, and I think being a man of God, I don't know how you don't fall onto the conservative side, but you know, I'm sure there are people of great faith that are on the other side that don't buy into the far left um ideals, right?
So Charlie went in to enemy territory, the heart of the beast, um, the home of the enemy, and and preached the truth to our youth.
And when you when you start to put some of these puzzle pieces together, and you go, okay, he's unbrainwashing in some sense what what these universities uh are doing, right?
He he started to unravel these cords of lies that our education system now has put in place.
He was a man of God, he wasn't conservative, and people were starting to talk about him as a possible presidential candidate.
When you put those pieces together for me, and and and you look at how Charlie was a man, he was only about the truth.
That was it.
He wanted the truth, he was a pursuer of truth.
Um from God's perspective.
You look at that and go, there's no way they're gonna let this guy ascend to the presidency, let alone continue to do his work.
Now, whoever they are, I have no idea.
Right?
I have no clue.
I know.
You know, but when you put those when you look at those puzzle pieces, I was thinking about this this morning.
You put those puzzle pieces together, and I I kind of look at it and go, Well, yeah, I'm uh I guess I'm not surprised that that this has happened.
Now you take into account what your your sources said, and I think if this does continue, we need to look at um with spiritual discernment who's being attacked, what they're saying, and why.
Interesting, Marjorie Taylor Green, about An hour ago on X posted this.
She said Charlie Kirk invited me to speak at Amphest a few weeks ago before he was martyred.
This was after I called for APAC to register under Far Farah, F A R A, and said that the nuclear armed secular government of Israel was committing genocide in Gaza and killing innocent children, Christians and people.
He asked if I wanted to debate about APAC, but made it clear not against him.
He said we, him, TPUSA, would do whatever I want on the issue.
If you don't know who to believe, between Bibi Netanyahu, a foreign country's leader or Charlie's personal friends, Candace Owen, Tucker Carlson, I'm posting my last text message with Charlie.
And she says, believe Candace Owen and Tucker Carlson.
Right?
And at the same time, always remember Charlie Kirk is an American Christian.
He was a devoted, loving husband and father.
He uh was a Christian movement leader, a giant in American history, a Christian martyr for Jesus Christ, a free speech warrior, and was committed to nonviolent debate.
Do not allow a foreign country, foreign agents, and other religion to tell you about Charlie Kirk, and I hope a foreign country and foreign agents and other religious and and another religion does not take over Christian patriotic turning point USA.
And she posted the text from Charlie to her.
You should speak at Amphest.
Would you want to also do a debate against APAC, etc.?
Not with me, no pressure.
We'll do whatever you want.
So does one have to do with another?
I have no idea.
Right?
Um I'm, you know, I'm just I'm throwing the information out there.
People need to pray over this stuff, think about it, but again, go back to what we talked about yesterday.
Whatever is at the root of this, right?
Whatever the what whomever the people are who did this, the root of this is Satan.
This is evil.
And Satan is the father of evil.
He's the father of lies.
And that's what we need to focus on.
That's what we need to pray against, starting there, and then praying for hearts, uh fallow ground of hearts to be broken up so that the ground is good for the seed that is now being scattered, you know, of the gospel as a result of this, right?
We heard about all these people going back to church and that kind of stuff.
My worry, we saw this after 9-11.
A lot of people went back to church, and then there was a huge falling off.
So some of that seed was fined.
Just like everybody is waving the American flag, and then now, you know.
Right, exactly.
And so we've seen this happen before.
My prayer is that the ground is more suitable for the seed of the gospel to take root.
But I I don't know that we need, you know, I don't know that we need to really I mean we need to talk about it because we need to understand what's going on, but we need to we need to be praying for spiritual discernment and making sure that you know we're not jumping to conclusions or of course.
And and yeah.
I'm not the I'm of the opinion, Henry, uh very similar to you.
It's like I don't know for a fact that there is any nexus between you know Israel and this assassination, but I do know that it is quite strange that this is happening, and it does seem like the people who know Charlie, who knew Charlie,
who were friends with Charlie, are coming out and talking a lot about Israel for some strange reason, and I'm getting the strong sense that people like Tucker and people like Megan Kelly and people like others have a have a probably know that they will be next if they keep you know and that their targets and they're gonna choose to keep talking about it, right?
Because they know sunlight's the best disinfectant.
Exactly.
But this is what they want to stop.
Yeah.
Yeah, no, that just this is what they want to stop, right?
Whoever did this, right?
Again, like I said, I don't know.
I'm just throwing information out there, you know, and you can you can decide for yourself.
And I didn't mean to imply that you were jumping to conclusions either.
That wasn't that I wasn't implying that.
I didn't know.
Okay, good, good, good, good.
Yeah, I it's just that that uh we have to um you're fine, you're fine.
I want to get into this.
I want to get into the whole story too, because I uh you're here and we only have so much time.
Right.
So Ben Shapiro, okay.
Mm-hmm, is now going to be I think him and and some others are going to be sort of trying to take over Phil Charlie Kirk's position at TP USA.
It looks like Shapiro and the Daily Wire donated a million dollars to TP USA.
And and listen to what he says.
And I and I and I want you to comment on this, because this is the wildest thing to me.
He says that Daily Wire and Ben Shapiro, the you know, pro Zionist, pro-Israeli Jew, who I you know, he's Jewish.
I'm I'm not saying that is it it's just he's saying now that he's gonna work to bring people back to Christ and bring people back to church and build and build back to biblical values.
I I just I I want to make sense of this.
Here, listen to this.
Okay.
I know we at Daily Wire, we trust you at TP USA to do it.
I mean, that's really the answer.
We're we're willing to provide and we are providing any level of material support, any level of support on the program, boots on the ground, helping you to do what Charlie would have wanted to be done here.
And I think that the reason that everybody trusted Charlie, the reason we're all mourning Charlie, is because nobody did it better.
You spelled out two of Charlie's goals.
You said, you know, he wanted to bring people back to Christ and bring people back to church and back to biblical values, and he wanted to keep the MAGA coalition together.
And expand it.
And expand it.
And the question is how you do that.
And the answer is you focus on the first, and the second is a byproduct.
Okay, the answer is that as Matt says, you have to unite around something.
And yeah, we can unite in the short term around the fact that there are a bunch of people who hate our guns and want to murder us.
Uh, which of course is true.
But long-term unity, big movement change, which is what Charlie was really trying to drive, and why he went to talk to people who disagree, is about building around those core values.
And so the long-term vision, yeah, we'll have our petty squabbles, and yeah, some of those squabbles will be more than petty.
But the long-term vision has to be built around those original biblical conservative values that Charlie stood for, things like the Bible, things like free markets, things like family, you know, all those things are things Charlie stood for.
You gotta build the coalition around values because we can't build it around the man, but we can build it around the values that he left behind and that he spent his entire life fighting for.
And you know, we couldn't be frankly more honored to to join you guys as much as we can in the fight.
Thank you for that, and thank you for donating uh the Daily Wire a million dollars, uh breaking news on this show.
Thank you guys for honoring Charlie so well today.
Okay.
I'm thoroughly confused that the hardcore pro-Israel, you know, pro-Zionist person is telling him that he's gonna help bring people back to Christ.
I didn't think believe in Christ.
He doesn't.
I have a clip right here.
Him on Joe Rogan talking about it.
Listen to this.
Yep.
You know, from from a Jewish point of view, or we don't believe in the divinity of Christ.
I think that the there you can make an argument that the the gospels which were written.
He was just a prophet and significant No no no, we don't even believe he's a prophet.
What do you think he was?
What do you guys think?
I mean, I what I what do I think that he was historically?
I think he was a Jew who tried to lead a revolt against the Romans and got killed for his trouble, just like a lot of other Jews at that time who were crucified for trying to lead revolts against the Roman and got killed for their trouble.
So he became legend and story and it became a bigger and bigger deal as time went.
Yeah, I get a group of followers, and then that gradually grew, and then resurrected.
No, that's not that's not a uh Jewish belief.
Okay, I just want to say no.
Or we're not into oracle stories.
No, that's that's no.
You don't have any miracles?
No, not not not by Jesus.
They're they're ones in the old testament.
Like I can't join a church, I assume.
I don't believe the things that people in the church believe.
You probably could if you donate.
You've got to give the right amount of money.
Well, I don't believe in the Jesus.
So there's the there's yeah.
That's not my thing, right?
I mean, so that's I mean, how prophetic was that conversation, though?
I don't believe in Jesus, but you could join the church if you donate enough money.
Well, what do you know?
He gives a million dollars of TP USA now.
He's he's preaching the the you know, gospel of Jesus Christ all of a sudden.
Where'd that come from?
Uh and a guy who doesn't.
They won the checkbook, that's where it came from.
Can't have the checkbook.
Yeah.
Guy who who says he doesn't believe in Christ is now gonna help bring people to Christ.
That doesn't make any sense.
Right?
I mean, am I crazy, Henry?
Am I crazy?
No, no.
No, no, no, no.
We'll talk about it on the other side.
Yeah, but no, it's still it's well, this is what Marjorie Taylor Green, I think, is warning us about.
Stay tuned.
We're coming back.
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And Henry, you know, I just hate that it has to be like this, but I don't even I I sometimes, you know, it's I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.
Like you feel like you're the only person who sees the ridiculous nature of what's happening here, right?
Right.
Well, it's called spiritual discernment, right?
That's and and that I'm not I'm not bragging about that.
I'm honored that you know, I have the spirit of God in me that you have it in you, and you're able to see that God is showing us certain things.
And again, we're not making concrete conclusions.
We're just saying, look, this is what we see.
Everybody else, you need to pray about it and and and have a look at this spiritually and allow God to show you what's really going on.
But I mean, the whole and the thing that the whole the thing that that struck me with that conversation that you played, um, the first one, was that he's talking about well, we we're gonna, you know, continue Charlie's vision of establishing this coalition.
That wasn't my opinion.
That's not what it wasn't Charlie's vision.
His vision was to spread the message and the truth of the gospel of Jesus Christ.
Anything else that happened was icing on the cake.
Charlie went Out there to give people the truth about Jesus and about the gospel and about how all these things that are in this sphere of of you know arguments for lack of a better term, he took all that apart by shedding shedding the light of the gospel on all these things on uh on on racism,
on LGBTQ, on abortion, on the trans question, all these things.
He took the gospel and shin that light on these things and showed people the truth and and showed them how these things really don't make sense when you apply God's truth to this, right?
That's what Charlie did.
And if people ended up coming out of that being a conservative or whatever, I think that I think that made him happy, but it was more about getting the truth to the youth of this country.
My opinion.
There's no doubt that Charlie his mission in life was to share the gospel.
His mission was not a political mission, it was restoring the the faith in it that America had lost in so many ways that faith in Christ.
And but I would also say, like, with regard to this, is it not reasonable to be skeptical of the people trying to fill his shoes and and overtake his organization when it could not be more clear that these people do not share the same values.
I mean, the idea that a guy who you know has plainly stated that he has less than no belief, if that's possible in Jesus Christ, right?
Right.
Is now going to help bring Christ people to Christ?
I don't understand unless there's some manipulation going on here.
No, unless you know Jesus and unless you've you've given your life to him and unless unless you've accepted him as your savior, you can't bring anybody to him if you don't know him yourself.
Right.
And the Bible's very clear.
I mean, you know, the Bible's very clear to it to say that.
So I think that if we're not skeptical, uh and if we're not looking at these things through a very discerning, a very spiritual discerning eye, then we're failing we're failing Charlie, we're failing his family, we're failing his vision.
Um and I think it is up to those who want to honor him to be very precise and and and very vigilant in watching what's going to happen to turning point going forward.
Yeah.
I agree.
And I think that's crazy.
It's crazy.
We have to, you know, listen to what's being said here.
I think, you know, what you were saying earlier, though, about what Charlie was doing and why he was so effective, you know, he was deprogramming these cult members on these campuses.
You know, and this is a threat to the powers that be.
And I don't know who those powers are.
I mean, I honestly don't.
I wish I there was an easy map or uh, you know, glossary or an index I could go look up and be like, okay, these are the people.
Right.
But at the end of the day, I'm just very let's say weary of trusting any of these people.
So Henry, since we have you here.
It's like, well, Mrs. Lincoln, how is the play?
It's like uh I know, right?
Literally.
Well, here's here's the thing, right?
What what Satan wants to do through all of this, right?
He wants us to be fearful.
He wants to shut us down.
Okay?
And we can't do that.
And and I think we can get fixated on these types of things that are going on in the world, but what we need to be fixated on is God first.
That's what Charlie was fixated on.
God and then his family, right?
And then turning point, probably.
That was probably his order, if I had to guess.
Yeah, definitely of priorities in his life.
Yeah, for sure.
So yeah, so that's what we need to be fixated on.
Right.
So we need to be fixated on God.
What is my relationship with God?
Okay, and then getting to that point where Charlie got to of you know, here I am, God send me.
Wherever that may be, right?
And not to be fearful, right?
To to be in Christ is to be loved by God.
God loved us so much that he sent his son for our salvation.
And I talked about a little bit about this yesterday.
So what we need to do is we need to be grateful.
We need to accept Christ, and we need to really understand what's been done for us.
That's gonna generate when you understand that that generates a respect and a love for God that surpasses anything because you know now you've been given life.
You know that you know the creator of the universe.
Here in Colorado, we all we have to do is walk out our back doors and we look to the front range and we see the beauty of God's creation.
We are heirs to the kingdom of that God who created these beautiful things that we get to witness every day here in Colorado.
That's who we are now when we're in Christ.
And so you get that realization that gives you it gives you the power of the Holy Spirit.
Again, not to be careless, not to be haphazard, but to to step into the holy of holies now and to know that there is no punishment for stepping in there because we are worthy.
We are made worthy through Christ.
We are made worthy to come in and and approach God one on one with our concerns, with our cares, with our our um desire to know him better, with our appreciations, our respect.
Right?
We get to come to God one 1v1 now.
And then we have a desire to please him.
We have a desire to do his will because the more you do it, the more you understand his will is better.
It doesn't mean it's easier.
Right?
Romans eight said the spir uh the spirit himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God, and if children, then heirs, heirs of God, and fellow heirs with Christ, provided we suffer with him in order that we also be uh that we may also be glorified with him.
For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worth comparing with the glory that is to be revealed in us.
Right?
So we are gonna go through some of those trials and tribulations just like Jesus did.
And that's that's the other beauty of this thing.
We have a Savior who knows exactly what we're going through.
He came here and was tempted and was persecuted, was challenged, was argued against, was eventually killed and resurrected.
Let me just say I've been through it all.
I know, and let me just say I'm I feel so blessed to have um have people like you, friends like you, Henry.
You're you're you're like uh uh like a second pastor in my life.
You're like you're like you're like the guy I depend on to keep me sane.
Go check out God's feeding station dot org, guys, if you want more of this.
But uh we're gonna take a break and and I'm sorry, we had somebody on the line waiting.
And uh we'll bring you on after the break.
I apologize for the way it so uh we'll get back to it.
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I'm your host, Craig James, with Henry Locke from God's Feeding Station.
And, Henry, what do you say?
Let's bring on this caller.
They've been patiently waiting.
Uh, Yeah, bring him on.
Caller, you're on the air.
What do you got?
Yeah, good morning, guys.
It's Blake from Arizona.
Um I listened to a guy, it's called the Three of Seven Project, and uh he's talking about anger, what to do with it.
And he said, strengthen your resolve to continue on a good path.
And I was wondering what you guys can add to that, what resolve is.
Um because a lot of us are feeling angry, rightfully so.
But where do we put this?
That's my question.
So I always go if you go into James chapter one, uh, there's a verse there, I think it's verse 19 or 20.
But basically, it talks about anger in very specific terms, and it says, let me see if I can get this one up because uh I have it committed to memory, but I want to make sure I read it in its entirety.
It says it says, My dearly loved brothers, understand this.
Everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak, and slow to anger.
For man's anger does not accomplish God's righteousness.
Therefore, ridding yourselves of all moral filth and evil, humbly receive the implanted word which is able to save you.
And then it gives you what to do with that anger in the very next verse.
It says this, Blake.
It says, but be doers of the word and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves.
Because if anyone is a hearer of the word and not a doer, he's like a man looking at his own face in a mirror, for he looks at himself, goes away and immediately forgets what kind of man he was.
But the one who looks intently into the perfect law of freedom and perseveres in it is and is not a forgetful hearer, but one who does good works.
This person will be blessed in what he does.
So what's that saying?
It's basically telling you that when you look at yourself, see it clearly, realize your anger is not going to satisfy God right God's righteousness, and then commit yourself to live righteously for God and persevere through that anger through the affliction, that's how you become blessed, and that's how you take that anger and change and take that anger and channel it into the way that God intends for you to channel that anger.
Uh, but that's my opinion.
What do you think, Henry?
Um, I go to Matthew 543.
You have heard that it was said you shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your father who is in heaven.
For he makes his son rise on the evil and on the good and sends rain on the just and the unjust.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?
Do not even the tax collectors do the same?
And if you greet only your brothers, what are you doing?
Uh what are what more are you doing than others?
Do not even the Gentiles do the same.
You therefore must be perfect as your heavenly father is perfect.
Take that anger and you take it to God.
That's what I that's what you have to do.
And and he'll show you there are the all these scriptures that tell you how to deal with it.
And I that's where you have to go.
Um you have to take everything to God and allow him to direct you on how to deal with all this stuff.
Amen.
Is that do you think those are good ways of looking at it?
Yeah, yes.
Yes.
Um it's an internal anger, I think, for a lot of people.
And um Yeah, thanks for the scriptures, guys.
That that's beautiful.
The other thing is make sure you don't let a root of bitterness take hold of your heart.
Right?
We're warned against that in scripture too.
And it's easy in these times to get really angry so that you let uh a root of bitterness and a root of hatred take take uh take root in your heart, and you you have to make sure that that doesn't happen as well.
Yeah.
Thank you, thank you.
It's uh uh it's an observation that um the left, let's just call them the left.
Um how radical they are, and how the right is in peaceful so far, and let's hope that continues.
Um, thanks, guys.
Yep.
Well, remember, blessed are the peacekeepers, for they will inherit the kingdom of heaven.
And that's what we're meant to do, Blake.
Even as tough as it may be, we leave we live by the example set on the cross, not by the example set in this world.
And uh the the example set on the cross was one of self-sacrifice and one of perseverance and faith.
And uh I think that's what Charlie Kirk, if he had if he were to tell you what he would want you to do, I don't want to put words in his mouth, but I'd imagine it'd be something similar to that.
Um don't don't worry, Blake.
It's uh perfectly normal to have that anger, but just channeling it and understanding how to channel it and use it for positive and use it for good.
Remember, do not repay uh evil with evil, rather repay evil with good.
Um that's my thought.
Yeah, don't don't treat don't treat people as bad as they are, treat them as good as you are.
There you go.
That's awesome.
Yeah.
All right, buddy.
Well, you guys have a good show.
Amen, brother.
Thanks for the call.
We appreciate it.
Yeah, and and just for your information, w when Henry calls up, it sounds like he's in a motocross event.
I don't know what it is, man.
It is some somebody call it the I call it the robot voice.
I don't know what it is, it's something distorted with some lines get crossed.
I don't know.
But it's all right.
Well, we figured it out, you know.
We fixed it this time.
Yeah, you do exactly.
So there you go.
All right, guys.
God bless you, brother.
Thanks, Lake.
Have a good show.
Yeah.
Um the other thing I want to caution against is not to paint the entire we'll call it the left with a broad brush.
Right?
Since we're talking about Charlie, Charlie dealt with individuals.
Right?
He sat there and said, if you disagree with me, you come to the front of the line.
He dealt with individuals.
Right.
There are people I know on the left that are strong believers in in Jesus.
And yeah, they may support the Democrat Party, and I know people are gonna say, Well, you can't be Christian and support a party that that does the abortion thing and all of that stuff.
Judge not lest ye be judged, and with the same I'm gonna paraphrase, with the with the same criteria you judge others, it's gonna be applied to you.
That's what scripture tells us.
So make sure, you know, you see something online you know, from somebody on the left that you know kind of goes against what God's truth is, pray for that person individually, right then and there.
Pray for God to touch their heart.
Yeah, let's make sure we're not broad brushing people.
And you can confront them privately on a personal level.
Exactly.
That's what we're called to do.
Brother to brother says, sister to sister, brother to sister, go to one another and say, This is why I think you're wrong.
You need to to consider this.
Anyway, stay tuned, we're coming back.
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When I was broken at the bottom, I found you're my healer and redeemer, Jesus.
That's who you are.
You brought me blessings out of a tragedy.
You turned my old song into a symphony.
Yeah.
And with just in the Sodomy.
I'm a new creation.
I'm a new creation.
Oh, oh, oh, oh.
Oh, oh, oh, oh.
But it was until I stumbled and made my mistakes that I could know in my soul.
How amazing was great.
Welcome back to Swarm Talk Radio.
I'm your host Craig James with Henry Loki from God's Feeding Station.
If you guys haven't, go check out uh his amazing ministry, God's FeedingSation.org, or you can download the God's Feeding Station app.
Whatever app store services your smartphone or device, we are so thankful that you know we kind of partner up and he's here with us.
And I am so grateful for your ministry, Henry, and what you do.
And I want to make sure that people go check it out.
And thanks for coming on here today and taking us, taking the time to walk with us through a lot of these stories and giving a uh a very Christ focused perspective, which I believe that myself and our audience we really appreciate.
And uh it's just always a pleasure to have you on.
And I told you during the break that I was gonna uh let you do the God's Grace's Greater segment where we do our scripture reading at the end, so take it away.
Well, thank you for that, but I gotta give all glory and honor to God.
Uh you know, you and I are both just trying to be faithful servants and to do his will as best we can.
So give credit where credit is due.
So, Matthew 5, 21, to Blake's point here.
You have heard, you have heard that it was said to those of old, you shall not murder, and whoever murders will be liable to judgment.
But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother will be liable to judgment.
Whoever insults his brother will be liable to the council, and whoever says you fool will be liable to the hell of fire.
So if you are offering your gift at the altar and there remember that your brother has something against you, leave your gift there before the altar and go.
First be reconciled to your brother and then come and offer your gift.
The thing here is we are not to be angry with one another.
God wishes that all would turn and repent and be saved, regardless of their political affiliations, regardless of what they believe.
He wants everyone, if as many as possible to turn and be saved.
And we are the instruments of that.
We are to go out and make disciples of all nations.
And we can't do that if we have hate in our heart for others.
So that's what we all need to work on.
We all, when we have those moments, we need to take those those moments to God, and we need to pray for those people who are maybe driving us nuts, or we really disagree with, or we feel this anger starting to well up in us.
Take that and turn it to good.
Pray for those people and pray to God to show you how to pray for those people.
Because again, we're just getting snapshots.
We don't know what's going on in our lives day to day.
Right?
We're getting little snapshots on social media or sound bites, whatever.
Right?
And remember, I mean, may I add, to live by the example that was set by our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, he didn't Amen.
He he not only prayed to his father, to the Father in heaven, but he also went to the people who disagreed with him, went to the people who hated him, told them how to find eternal salvation.
And and in in I think in following that example is what we saw with Kirk when he went to the campuses and he confronted the people who were lost.
So not only do I think we should be praying, like Henry's saying, but I also think, like Henry said earlier, you know, it's a great example to see a man who will go to these people and confront them, but in a spiritual way that's led by the Holy Spirit.
So out of love.
Out of love.
That's where we leave it.
If you haven't accepted Jesus as Lord and Savior, I encourage you now.
Open your hearts, say a prayer, call upon his name.
But uh we'll see you on the next one.
Thanks to Henry.
Thanks to the listeners.
Uh God speed and God bless each and every one of you patriots.
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