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	I'm your host, Craig James, and I hope you guys are having a wonderful day.
	It's Friday, or Friday.
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	It is Thursday, unfortunately, but that means we're pretty close to Friday, so I guess I can take that as a win.
	And you know what Thursdays and Fridays mean here on Justin Form Talk Radio?
	Our intrepid cohost joins us.
	And you know, I probably just as much as all of you look forward to these two days of the week, which, you know, if we're really nice to him, we may be able to convince him to come on for even more days.
	But I don't know, it's going to be a tough, tough negotiation, I think.
	However, without further ado, I'd like to introduce a person you all probably know, our cohost, friend, U.S. Air Force veteran, Benghazi whistleblower, and military intelligence insider, among many other things.
	Our good friend, mister Nick No.
	Welcome to the show, Nick.
	How are you?
	That's Greg, I'm doing fantastic today.
	I've been up early, you know, sifting through the news, finding some good gems, and I had a really good pop tart here.
	It was the Girl Scout cookie one.
	It was, you know, the highlight of my morning, you know, for my breakfast.
	So, are you concerned about the health?
	Is, you know, are there all the chemicals in there?
	I mean, do you just whatever?
	You don't care?
	Eh, I drink, like, triple reverse osmosis water only.
	So that kind of helps.
	That offsets the chemical pop tart.
	I like it..
	Yeah, I do the same thing.
	I have the, my weakness is those, oh, I probably shouldn't say this on air, but is those, they're not Oreos, but they're like the fake, they're like imitation Oreos.
	They're called Numinos, you know, Paul Numins brand.
	I hate that I like those, and I got to cut those out.
	Even though I'm pretty healthy otherwise, to be quite honest.
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	I've been growing all my vegetables all summer.
	I've been eating fresh vegetables from the garden with dinner every night, little brown rice, little organic chicken or wild caught salmon.
	I'm pretty healthy otherwise, but those Oreos, I mean Numinos, there ain't nothing like them.
	Although I will say this, my wife makes incredible chocolate chip cookies, and I do when I'm fortunate enough to get those, I'm very blessed for sure.
	They're way healthier.
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	Anyway, I don't know how we got onto this topic.
	It's a Thursday and I want to get to the news, but you said.
	You said pop tarts, I said Numino's.
	So I guess we got that out of the way.
	Okay, Nick, we have a lot to cover.
	I mean, there's a lot going on in the world.
	Some interesting stories that are unfolding before our very eyes.
	I guess the best place to start would be looking at what has happened with regard to this debate over Texas, right?
	I mean, and this is kind of spilling into California.
	Apparently, the Texas House was able to lock the Democrats in the chamber when they returned.
	and pull off the quorum necessary to pass the redistricting vote, which now means that Texas will be adding five congressional seats and people like Jasmine Crockett and the other senior gentleman from Texas.
	His name is Allen Allen Allen drawing a blank.
	The guy with the cane, the sort of he looks like I don't know what he looks like.
	He looks like one of the he actually does look like one of the Muppets.
	But he is, him and Jasmine Crockett and others are going to lose their seats in Congress in the next upcoming election, you know, presupposing that the Senate confirms the passing of this legislation, and I would imagine Abbott would then have to sign it into law.
	But in this interesting turn of events, again, Texas will be adding five seats for Republicans from their delegation that they will send to the Federal House of Representatives.
	And so I think that's great, right?
	But now go ahead, Nick.
	I heard you.
	You're ready.
	Late on me.
	Well, you know how I feel about the Texas governor.
	He needs to return the money that he sent to Israel that he stole from his state.
	A little unrelated, but I'll let it pass.
	So the five seats are good though.
	It's a good exchange for his, you know, bending the knee.
	Yeah, I mean, look, there are people, all people are imperfect and they're always going to do things you like and you don't like.
	Personally, I don't like Greg Abbott, just not even just because of probably what you just said there with regard to, you know, the idea that he's funding foreign states over America, but and he's done a lot of other things I don't like too, in the capitulations and bending the knee to just the Democratic agenda.
	Pardon?
	No, there's a sorry, excuse me, Craig.
	There's like a basically he's allowing these Muslim, only Muslim cities being built, and they built them really quick, to be fair, but he allowed it to happen, and there's like several of them down there.
	Well, I, you know, I so I would only push back on that because So there are exemptions.
	I don't think he necessarily and not to get sidetracked here, but I'm not sure that he allowed that to happen because he wanted that.
	But you have to understand, principally, if he were to try to restrict that, A, it would be unconstitutional.
	And I'll explain why, because there are carve-outs, for instance, to the Equal Housing Opportunity Act and other bills that passed for the creation of certain types of communities that actually were written specifically to create the ability or to protect the ability to create and operate private communities that are oriented by faith or religion,
	meaning like Christians can go and start, you know, Amish communities or and I'm not even sure what that Amish is, but I know that there are protections.
	So like if I wanted to start a neighborhood and I made it a private neighborhood, I could make it in such a way that it is a Christian, you know, like we can selectively say, hey, we're not going to sell homes to Christians as long as we do it a certain way, as long as the community is organized in a certain way.
	And that's what they were doing with these Muslims and what they are doing with these Muslim communities.
	So in a way, he's not necessarily endorsing it.
	He's saying he's upholding the president that would protect Christians who want to build their own communities, who do have their own communities, where they can restrict.
	Can Waco?
	Good point.
	But that was before that was far before, first of all, I'm pretty sure that was far before Abbott's time, Waco, if I'm not mistaken.
	And I also think that it's a totally different scenario.
	But yeah, the fact that Waco was allowed to exist and be created, I guess.
	But yeah, so there's a certain area there.
	I'm not saying I endorse either these Muslim communities that are I think that that's a political ideology and it's something slightly different that we should be very careful with, but I agree.
	There is some sort of other argument that can be made there.
	All right, we got sidetracked.
	I'm sure we'll come back and talk about Oreos and Pop Tarts.
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	I am your host, Craig James, and joined by our cohost, Nick.
	No, there are definitely some interesting stories that we're going to cover here today.
	We were talking about this Texas redistricting effort, which now has passed through the House, and we kind of got sidetracked a little bit there, and I think it was the, if you look it up, I think I said equal housing opportunity, but it was the Fair Housing Act, I think, where you have these sort of, a Christian community could be developed and protected under, you know, certain definitions.
	certain types of protections as a private organization, private club type deal.
	But anyway, I don't want to get too far sidetracked in that regard because we have stories that probably we need to get to that are slightly more pressing.
	However, Texas, they are redistricting, they've passed it now.
	The Democrats returned from their little publicity stunt where they went to hide away in Illinois.
	And what was hilarious is that it's almost like the Democrat or it's almost like the Texas legislature set a trap because what happened was, and this is a wild story.
	So if you recall, people were upset because the Texas governor and the house there, the body, legislative body, issued these arrest warrants.
	Now they're like civil arrest, civil detainment warrants that could only be administered by the, I believe it's the sergeant at arms of the house of the state legislature in Texas.
	So it's and perhaps could be enforced by state law enforcement there, but it couldn't be enforced, you know, across the border and Texas officials, leaders were being.
	lambastid by the right, conservatives, because they said, hey, you're not complying, you're abandoning your post, therefore you are subject to this, you know, legal action.
	And then they didn't enforce it, and people were saying it was a sign of weakness, and then they closed their legislative session.
	I think it was a special session that they had opened specifically to, in part, I guess, do the redistricting, right, which is in response to a Democrat lawfare organization's lawsuit, which is the craziest thing,
	by the way, and we'll get into that, but Mark Elias and his legal cohorts were the ones who were actually behind and Mark Elias ties back to the Clintons and Obama and everybody else, all the Democrats, but they were behind a lawsuit that was aimed at the Texas government trying to force them to redistrict.
	So what they basically did was in response to this lawsuit and the outcome of it, they said, okay, we'll redraw our districts and now they're redrawing them and it's going to end up favoring Republicans in adding five seats and I think taking away several from the Democrats.
	And what's interesting is that Democrats, when this started, fled the state and kept the state legislature from holding a quorum in this first special session.
	So they ended the special session and everybody got really upset with the Republicans in Texas because they said you made all these threats and they were empty threats and you didn't follow through on them.
	And that was true up until yesterday, I guess, when the Democrats returned.
	And what they did, which is insane and awesome, it's pretty cool.
	I've never even heard of this yet.
	They, when the Democrats arrived back to the house and entered the house.
	They essentially locked them in the chambers of the legislature and told them and started a new session, forcing them to be there as a part of the quorum and threatening them that if they left they would be arrested, meaning if they walked out of the locked chamber doors, which I think I don't think they were actually locked.
	I think it was like, you know, ceremonially or whatever it is locked, like you can't leave this house.
	They said basically that if they walked out, the sergeant of arms and whoever state police there would arrest them and detain them and force them to come.
	And then they would have to, and then a part of it is that if they wanted to leave, they would have to sign this sort of permission slip type deal.
	And I'm not sure what the deal is with the permission slip, but I know it's like, it was a way to basically ensure that they knew and agreed to the fact that they would be arrested if they left, right?
	And the permission slip, I think, I think was some sort of acknowledgement that they were resigning their position by abandoning their spot, right?
	Because it's a really complicated thing, but it's hilarious..
	Election of duty.
	Yeah, to a degree.
	So this is all like unfolding and I, and I got to get it all kind of straightened out, but this is my understanding of the situation up to this point.
	And so they've locked all these Democrats in the Senate or in the House, the state legislative chambers, they forced them to stay so that they can have a quorum.
	They called the vote for the redistricting yesterday and they passed because Democrats were forced to basically stay and vote.
	I think it passed like 88 to 52 or something like that.
	So they will now redistrict.
	the state pending the Senate approval.
	And I got to play some of the conversations from inside.
	So they had this question time with the I want to say he was the this is the head of the state legislative chamber in the House side.
	And just listen to this exchange between Democrats who are essentially being held in the House under threat of arrest and the Republicans.
	This is yeah, I voted for this and I'm okay with this.
	If I attempt to leave this chamber today Without signing a permission slip, am I subject to arrest by the government?
	As I stated today, no one will be able to leave the chamber without a permission slip.
	Mr Speaker.
	Tienosa, for what purpose?
	Parliamentary inquiry.
	State your inquiry.
	Why is an arrest under the call of the House not prohibited by Article 3, Section 14 of the Texas Constitution that prohibits members from being arrested during the legislative session?
	Tienosa, that is a general question that the Chair declines to answer.
	Mr Speaker.
	Does he know for what purpose?
	If I attempt to leave this floor today with this call of the House on me, why am I not protected from arrest by Article 3, Section 14 of the Texas Constitution that prohibits the arrest of members during the legislative session?
	That is a hypothetical and general question.
	As previously stated, the Chair declines to answer those.
	Mr. Speaker.
	Does he know for what purpose?
	Can I walk out right now of this House without being arrested or am I protected by Article 3 of Section 14 of the Texas Constitution.
	There are separate provisions under the Constitution that provide for maintaining and compelling a quorum.
	They are separate.
	Miss Hinojosa, as previously stated under the call of the House, there are permission slips that you are welcome to take.
	I mean, look, I'm not going to pretend that I understand fully what's going on here, but I love it.
	It's wonderful to hear Democrats be like, So if I leave, I'm going to get arrested.
	And they're like, Yes, yes, that's exactly what's going to happen.
	But you could sign this permission slip, you know, stating that you are abandoning your position as a state representative and leaving the House, you know?
	It's like, yeah.
	This is great.
	Yeah, because they can be arrested while in session.
	Yeah, that's true.
	But if they leave, then they're not part of the session anymore, are they?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, that's, I think that's the deal is that if you sign the presidential letter, you're basically acknowledging that you are, again, I think abandoning your position and, you know, stepping away from an active session so you are not part of it.
	Therefore, those arrest warrants that were issued previously can be, you know, served and you will be detained.
	So the Democrats were freaking out and, you know, it's like, I understand where we're getting to as a nation and nobody wanted this, right, Nick?
	Like, nobody wanted it to get to this point, but there had to be a point where it would come where we say, like, you think you're the only ones who can play dirty, you know, like, you're, and even though this is all above board and this is all, you know, according to law, but you you think you're the only ones who can play tough and hardball, you know, like, Democrats have taken advantage of Republicans.
	They've misconstrued our kindness and patience and persistence in following the law as weakness.
	And they've taken full advantage of that, I think.
	Yeah, and they're about to find out, aren't they?
	That's what it feels like.
	It feels like there's, you know, I've always said for years now that I always view the politics like a pendulum and, you know, it can swing one way, but you bet your bottom dollar that you can swing as far as you want one way but it's going to come crashing back the other way so you better be ready because you know you can only push people so far and there are certain things that are just so
	um egregiously ridiculous that they're trying to push through that you're going to have to say you know there's going to be repercussions and this is the repercussion you know democrats think that they can control everything and then the worst part is you know the hypocrisy of it all where they say,
	well, We can't believe that the Republicans in Texas would even entertain the idea of gerrymandering and redistricting to favor the constituents who are the majority in their state.
	And then you go, have you seen the voting districts in California or Illinois or New York or any other one of these, you know, major blue states, supposedly blue states?
	I mean, they're all gerrymandered to hell.
	I've seen the worst, one of the worst ones I've seen is they're like the snake districts in Illinois, which literally are just drawn like if you drew a snake, you know, like a snake's body through the state so that they just literally encompass these, you know, more democrat-leaning neighborhoods to create voting districts that are like strong blue districts that will never be broken unless the district is re-established.
	The same thing happened in Colorado, Craig.
	In a lot of places, they won't let you build.
	They won't let you buy property.
	You have to make multifamily units.
	They won't let anything else be built.
	Because that's how the Democrats stay together.
	They keep their own little communities and little high rises.
	You can influence more people that way, you know, more minds and, you know, it's and it's their model.
	You can't own anything.
	You're gonna, you're gonna just rent and be happy there in Colorado.
	You might have a good view, you might have some good fun going out and to, you know, enjoy yourself in the outdoors, but you're never gonna own anything.
	That's what they want.
	Yeah, and you know what I want?
	I want freedom.
	Dang it.
	But and Craig can deliver for you.
	He's a real estate agent.
	Yeah, I am a licensed real estate agent.
	So if you'd like to move out of the Democrat run Sasspool cities, please feel free to reach out.
	I'll help you out.
	But regardless, like, and I'm obviously being facetious there for whatever reasons, but you have to really do take into account the fact that what's happening in Texas now is going to be responded to in California.
	And it is rather hilarious.
	I talked about this in yesterday's show, but now that they the Democrats have done this, it looks like California is going to follow through on their threat to redistrict.
	And I just really can't imagine how much more.
	disproportionate the representation is going to become in California, where, I mean, at the moment, I'm pretty sure it's like 40% of the population is represented by 18% of the representation.
	And if they cut that down further, I mean, people in California are going to get completely screwed.
	And it's par for the course for them.
	I live there.
	It's kind of like, you know, for the people that live there, it's like, well, what's new?
	But I don't think they're going to take it lying down because there is a large amount of conservatives there who are going to be very.
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	Welcome back, Just Form Talk Radio, I'm your host, Craig James with Nick No.
	So Nick, we have some more to get into other stories.
	Of course, we're talking about what's happening here in Texas, but that again leads us into what's happening in California.
	But real quick, I just want to play one more interesting clip.
	You know, this is what they're trying to frame this a certain way, right?
	And the Democrats' only rebuttal to this is that you're shutting us out of the process.
	We're being held hostage here.
	And it was interesting to hear this exchange on the floor of the Texas State De Legislature.
	We weren't asked any questions and were engaged in the process at all.
	You left 17 to 18 days.
	You could have sat with me.
	Would you believe it would be a great process to include the public in a way that they could see what's going on, or do we want to do the things in the cloak of darkness here?
	Well, you've been gone in the cloak of darkness for 18 days.
	That's not Jermaine to me.
	No, it is Jermaine to me.
	No, it is not.
	That's not Jermaine to what you're talking about.
	I mean, when we do it, it's okay, but when you do it, it's evil, she says., I mean, it's like, who buys the stuff they're selling at this point?
	It's so weak and pathetic and ridiculous.
	You know, the argument that they're being shut out of the process is like, Lady, you and every other Democrat fled the state and hid out in some private bunker for 18 days only to reemerge after the session ended that you could have been a part of to debate this whole thing and taken as much time as you wanted to do it.
	Now, you're claiming that.
	their effort to move quickly and execute the agenda that they were elected to do is somehow removing you from the process.
	You removed yourself from the process, you know?
	Yeah.
	You know what they tried to do?
	Think about it this way, Craig.
	Just like you said, they would have been able to argue it on the House floor or whatever, you know.
	But guess what?
	If they did, they would destroy the Democrats and their whole idea, it would be logically destroyed and they would have no recourse.
	And then that model would be used all over the United States.
	But that's why California California has basically gone with the inverse and doing the exact same thing except in an even more egregious way where the Republicans are actually standing and fighting for and trying to battle this,
	but they're literally shutting them out of the process in real time, which is, you know, the opposite of what happened here, but the narrative framing is all that matters because politics is perception, right?
	And this is why, I mean, everything they've done is very calculated.
	Like you said, if they had had to stay and argue based on merit why the redistricting was not going to benefit the people, they would have lost in the I believe in the public court of opinion.
	And that would not have been as effective as this again, as I called it earlier, publicity stunt, which they pulled to help frame a narrative that they are now selling, right?
	They withdraw themselves from the process, they hide away in a different state, they come back and the process is pushed through because they, you know, by force, essentially, and they have now created this victortim,
	you know, this appearance of victimhood that they can exploit on national media as an appeal to not only the public but to other states, hey, this is what they're doing to us, we're victims, now you have to do this to them in other states when in all reality everything that they did or the only thing that they did was run a moderately successful PR campaign to create this narrative that they are now using and pushing through the fake news apparatus.
	And this is why I hate politics, to be honest, and I don't hate a lot of things.
	I certainly try my best not to hate people, but I hate politics because politics breeds this sort of deception, manipulation, and complete and just utter degradation of any morality and integrity that people have.
	It's just so disgustingly slimy, you know?
	I just, this is why I, and I think this is why most people don't like politics or politicians, generally speaking, is because this is the kind of thing they do.
	And even the people who aren't as nuanced or maybe informed on what's going on, you can just in some cases, you can just sense the dishonesty and the deceptivity of it all, right?
	Yeah, they're disingenuous.
	Even when they read from the teleprompter, hello, it's like that guy on, what is it called?
	The movie Office Space, when he comes up, Orlando Jones or whatever the actor, he comes up, he's like, hi, I was addicted to crack.
	I am now clean.
	I'm just sticking for money to support my family.
	It's like, okay guys, we believe you.
	Right.
	Yeah.
	And who's your biggest donor?
	APAC?
	Oh, interesting.
	You know, I don't know.
	It's, you're right.
	It's, it's, it's mucky too, because all the other, don't, you know, not just APAC, but all the other promises they have to make to everybody to get there.
	And I think Citizens United was one of the biggest mistakes that we ever had in politics, because the money should be raised from the people and not corporations, because corporations do not have vested interests in America.
	They can operate abroad and, you know, and do whatever they want in different places.
	But they're still treated as people.
	That's the biggest mistake we've ever made.
	But then they have no look, they get treated as people, but then when it comes down to it, nobody goes to jail.
	That's the thing.
	There's no punishment for misbehaviors.
	For example, Pfizer had one of the biggest judgments against them for lying about the efficacy of their drugs and other things and mis off label use encouraging that and so on.
	And nobody bats an eye.
	It's just part of doing business.
	Part of doing business killing people is we expect ten thousand people to die when we make fifty billion and then we'll pay two billion in restitution.
	It's much more profitable, Craig.
	It's the same way that these politicians do this.
	So what we need to do is fix the citizens united thing, and then also, if anybody, you need to make it a law, anybody that knowingly tries to pass a law or legislation that is depriving us of our rights, deprivation of rights under the color of law is treason, period.
	Don't even mention it.
	Don't even try it.
	And especially if there's already a recent Supreme Court decision, they use that lawfare to continue attacking our rights.
	And if they do, they should just be taken to Guantanamo Bay.
	All right.
	You had your fun.
	See you later, buddy.
	Gone.
	Problem solved.
	Look, it's a, what's it called?
	It's an insurrection.
	It's like, you know, trying to subvert our rights is just absolutely unacceptable and something has to be done.
	about it.
	Well, i'll tell you what i agree with you to a large extent on many of those topics that you just went through you got to be honest we got to be honest with ourselves as a nation at this point and just admit that There has been, you know, our government's captured.
	We're slowly, incrementally trying to take it back.
	It's a uphill battle.
	You know, perhaps at some point drastic measures will be necessary.
	I guess that's the best I can do as far as my bags on back order.
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	I'm your host, Craig James with Nick No.
	To continue this discussion, we have to look at California quickly.
	We talked about this in yesterday's show, but essentially what's happening in California is that in response to what is taking place in Texas, California said, well, if Texas is going to redistrict and add five congressional seats, this means that we need to.
	redistrict and add more Democrat seats.
	That way, it offsets or even, you know, sort of invalidates the effort made in Texas on a national from a national perspective, right?
	And this is a very controversial thing because, like I said before, you have a situation in California where, what is it?
	It's 40% of the population is already underrepresented and only represented by 18% or so of the elected officials, right?
	So it's already imbalanced, but they're say saying now to offset what's happened in Texas, because the Democrats are losing seats while also gaining the Republicans gain seats, they're going to have to do something about it.
	So Gavin Newsom and the Democrats who have a super majority, just like in Colorado, the Democrats have, they got together and basically decided to completely sidestep the traditional conventional system for redrawing districts,
	which in the state of California in 2008 and 2010, it was basically established that they would use these sort of independent commissions to redraw voting districtsts to avoid a situation where an incumbent governing political party would use their majority to redraw districts to further favor their political
	power and position, right?
	And this was an independent, so the independent commissions are compiled or comprised of both Democrats and Republicans, and they're meant to be a balance and a check in balance against, again, one party.
	getting in and saying we're going to just steamroll the other party and redraw the districts so that they never have a chance at winning ever again.
	And this has been the case in California again for the last what fifteen years or so?
	Well, they've decided to say, hey, well, we're just not going to do that now, and because of these unconventional methods and tactics that are happening in a separate state that is not California, California must now essentially, as they, as Gavin Ussen said, fight fire with more fire and do this untorid, unscrupulous, you know.
	nefarious thing that they have been lambasting their opponents for doing because it's the only way to combat what's being done.
	Now that is the pretext for which we come to the understanding of this I think a grand scheme by the Democrats.
	Twofold, there's one side of this that is predicated on the fact that we heard yesterday in the show, I played you the clip where the state senator Chris Cabaldon explained in detail that because Trump is going to redo the censuses across the nation and that when they are not counting illegals as a part of those censuses,
	that California is not only going to lose a portion of their seats in Congress because that's how they're portioned by the census, but that further, this is why they have to do this redistricting now because they need to offset the losses that are going to occur when the census comes in.
	Now, this again brings us the twofold.
	The second part is how did this all get started?
	Well, I'll let the congressman from California explain.
	Republican congressman explains here exactly how this came to be.
	That's a question that we actually need the media to expose.
	What kicked off this entire redistricting portion and what happened in Texas?
	Texas was sued by far left groups and they have a legal basis to change their maps.
	What California is doing here is a response to that.
	It's not that they don't like the redistricting, it's that they don't like the results of their lawsuit.
	They opened the door.
	Look into the Elias group.
	Look into what happened in Texas.
	That's what's started this redistricting war.
	Not Republicans, not the president, not anyone else.
	A far left progressive group sued the state of Texas, forcing Texas to redraw the maps.
	What California is doing is playing corruption and using issues in other states to rig our own elections.
	There is no legal basis to it, and the media needs to expose that.
	That's what's happening in Texas, not the same conditions that we have here.
	California voters already spoke.
	They said we want our districts to be in an independent fair commission, and we said that.
	When other states do this, it's not our job to react what other states are doing.
	It's our job to be better.
	But this governor is dragging us down instead of showing us by example on what to do.
	That's your legislative body here.
	That's the super majority in Sacramento.
	They're the ones saying, We'll bring you down when we believe others don't do what we want.
	Instead of showing by example that we can do it better.
	What me and this other group of assembly members is saying, Let's prove to the rest of the nation how the fair redistricting process in California is better than anywhere else.
	So you notice the difference between Democrats and Republicans because when Democrats were faced with this issue in Texas, they fled the state.
	And when Republicans are faced with it, look at them.
	They're standing up in Congress saying exactly what they think and how this is wrong and why this is happening, explaining it clearly to the public to understand, not hiding away in some bunker in Illinois or some other, you know, Pica or a red state, rather.
	So this is absolutely going to dominate effect into other states.
	I just, I have a feeling, this is going to be a trend that may occur here in other states coming up here very shortly.
	And it may get pretty ugly.
	But you know what?
	The Republicans have the advantage because unlike the Democrats, we haven't attempted to use our majorities in red states to gerrymandering the states to further extract disproportionate representation.
	And if we choose to go this route, it's not going to end well for the Democrats.
	I know that because they've already gerrymandering every state that they control already.
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	Welcome back to Just Forum Talk Radio.
	I'm your host, Craig James.
	And I'm joined by Nick No.
	And Nick, we're talking about what is happening with the California State Legislature in response to the Texas State Legislature.
	And what I think is the one thing you can definitely take away from the clip we heard as we went to the break is that the Democrats started this whole thing with a lawsuit in Texas that backfired on them, to which now they're responding.
	But did it really backfire?
	Was this the intended consequence?
	Did they seek this outcome and now they're exploiting it?
	Because again, as I pointed out and as was pointed out by the state senator in California so eloquently in yesterday's show, when the new census is conducted, California is going to lose congressional seats because they're not going to be counting the illegals.
	And that is going to very severely affect the apportionment of seats for the state of California.
	So with that in mind, you have to take a step back and think, did they intentionally light this powder keg in Texas because they want it to go off in California and other states where particularly California because that's the state of California because that's the state that's probably going to be most severely affected by Trump's attempt to or Trump's new census,
	which is going to count in an accurate way the citizens who are actual constituents in that, you know, in the respective states in which they live.
	What do you think, Nick?
	Well, yeah, it sounds like a ploy.
	Obviously, whose house did they stay at?
	Whose place did they stay at?
	It's probably one of It was Pritzker.
	It was JB Pritzker in Illinois, the Democrats.
	It wasn't a house.
	It was like a compound, and I think it was arranged through it was arran it was connected to some prominent democrat donor.
	Oh, they got to watch out for those compounds if ATF shows up.
	Yeah.
	Well, it was it was some strange place out there in Illinois.
	It was like some secretive compound they all stayed at.
	But yeah, I think that generally speaking, this is what's happening.
	And so this is the kind of analysis you're not going to get on MSNBC or CNN or Fox.
	They're going to give you this sort of, you know, topical, oh, this is so bad, man..
	These, these Democrats are so bad.
	It's all very clever and strategically laid out, even though it sometimes looks like they're stupid.
	They're they're not as stupid as they seem and they're actually the ones that are smart as Trump would say are quite dangerous, you know?
	Yes, but they're going to do it's law fair.
	This they're going to California is going to start the law fair.
	It's going to have to go all the way to Supreme Court.
	They're going to drag it up to the next election.
	Yeah, they'll probably try something to that effect, but there's not much you can do law fair wise when it comes to state legislatures.
	If the legislature passes it.
	and it's signed into law.
	It's it can be challenged, I guess, but it's not it's not the same as if a judge were to make a ruling.
	It's a little bit more difficult for that process to go through the courts, but this is definitely going to be something that I guarantee you will probably come to Colorado sooner or later.
	They're already talking about wanting to redraw the districts here.
	And it's like, how much worse could it get?
	Well, I hope we don't have to find out.
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	Okay, so again, it's hour two, joined by our cohost Nick No.
	Nick, what do you know?
	What do you think?
	We have a lot of other stories to get into here today and I really, I mean, there's just so many.
	My favorite one, Craig.
	I got one that's big for Colorado.
	Tina Peters.
	Let's go ahead and get into it.
	I want, is that the one you're talking about?
	Oh, yeah, yeah.
	Yeah, let's get into it.
	So President Trump's been putting out some posts about Tina Peters and I think what this is all in response to is a tied to Trump's previous tweet about mail and ballots.
	Trump has made clear, we talked about earlier in the week, through a few comments and posts online that he intends to sign an executive order which is going to remove mail and ballots from the voting system.
	And also it's an attempt to get paper ballots with highly comprehensive watermarks involved that will then eliminate the need for hopefully these voting machines that are so corrupted and broken.
	Trump's been pushing this and he faced a lot of pushback.
	We played Earlier in the show in the week here, all the clips of Janet Griswold, our Secretary of State here, going out and saying, Hey, Trump's basically I remember yesterday, Nick, you'll love this.
	We were playing clips of the Secretary of State, Janet Griswold, saying that Trump's playing into Putin's hands, that Russia will hack our elections if we don't use their cheating mail ballots and voting machines, and that, you know, President Trump is Vladimir Putin's, you know, agent.
	So they're going back to the Russia hoax.
	That's all they have is to accuse him of being in bed with Russia by trying to reform our elections.
	But this, I think, is how Trump got into the Tina Peters thing because in response, I believe to her and other prominent Colorado Democrats coming out and saying that they are against and are going to fight Trump in court on this mail and ballot executive order that he's signing.
	Trump started posting again about Tina Peters, which I look, Tina Peters is one of the bravest and most heroic women and she's in a tough place right now.
	She's very sick and she's in jail right now because of our corrupt system.
	And President Trump made this statement, which I will share here.
	He says, Quote, Radical Left Colorado Attorney General Phil Weiser ignores illegals committing violent crimes like rape and murder in his state and instead jailed Tina Peters, a sixty nine year old Goldstar mother who worked to expose the doc and document Democrat election fraud.
	Tina is an innocent political prisoner being horribly and unjustly punished in the form of cruel and unusual punishment.
	This is a communist persecution by the radical left Democrats to cover up their election crimes and misdeeds in twenty twenty.
	The same Democrat party that flies to El Salvador to try to free an MS thirteen terrorist is cruelly imprisoning perhaps for life a grandmother whose brave and heroic son gave his life for America.
	Colorado must end this unjust incarceration of an innocent American.
	I am hereby directing the Department of Justice to take all necessary action to help secure the release of this hostage, quote unquote, being held in Colorado prison by the Democrats for political reasons.
	Free Tina Peters now.
	And not only did President Trump say that.
	He went further in posting again today about Tina Peters by saying this, free Tina Peters, a brave and innocent patriot who has been tortured by crooked Colorado politicians, including the big mail and ballot supporting governor of the state, let Tina Peters out of jail right now.
	She did nothing wrong except catching the Democrats cheat in the election.
	She is an old woman and very sick.
	If she is not released, I am going to take harsh measures.
	You understand what that means?
	Well, what I've heard.
	The word put forward by people who seem to be in the know is that there's going to be a push by Pam Bondi to take Tina Peters into federal custody, which will in effect supersede the state custody, and then that she will cooperate as part of the broader investigation into the 2020 election, and that that will, you know, it will be a very comfortable position that she's put in.
	If that happens, wouldn't that be, you know, for her being released and somebody who has been victimized by a captured state?
	I say captured state for a reason.
	Trump has acknowledged that it has been captured.
	The way he said it, talking about Phil Weiser, the AG, is basically saying he's lawless and he's allowing the illegal aliens to harm people and thrive in his and the state.
	And then, and then, meanwhile, the citizens are being treated or mistreated by him.
	You know, and then, of course, the mail and ballots, they cheated in the election, everybody knows it.
	And then they put Tina in jail for exposing it.
	When she exposed that, she actually showed not only did they commit fraud and, you know, they didn't really win the election.
	She showed that, you know, Once she published that, the Dominion people went and erased all the data after the fact, but they didn't know that Tina already had an image of it.
	So they committed a felony.
	You're supposed to have that for at least, I think it was 22 months or something.
	You have to have all the records and they destroyed them in less than a couple of weeks after the election, which is a felony.
	So if anything, those Dominion and Slidell and Slidell, whatever company software they use, they need to be investigated.
	And as we just talked about, they were captured because they cheated in the election.
	Okay?
	So what does that really mean, Craig?
	Just imagine DC got captured and there's a bunch of troops from other countries showed up, you know, from Venezuela, Trinidad Aragua and other people like that.
	And then they just took over the state.
	Are we just going to let them?
	No.
	No.
	We're going to get rid of you know, get rid of habeas corpus.
	He's going to go in there, kick some doors in and, you know, put bags over heads.
	I think it's coming, man.
	I really do.
	Because look, it's captured.
	It's a captured state.
	It is not a legal and legitimate operation of government.
	Yeah, I think you're right.
	And I think that we'll talk about this more when we come back.
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	All right, Nick, we're back.
	And there's a lot more to cover here.
	I mean, the Tina Peter story is definitely something that I don't know what turn it's going to take.
	And I know that you have a, I want to say, a propensity.
	propensity to be slightly dramatic at times now will you be vindicated ultimately only Only time will tell.
	We can't say whether you will be right or wrong, but I do think that what you've described situationally is what most people who believe in law and order and believe in the facts that surround these varying crimes would probably want to happen.
	The outcome that they would desire, right, is that the people face accountability for the crimes that they've committed.
	And when President Trump uses certain language, I don't know if we've been, like, desensitized as a nation because of Trump's sort of, his way of speaking, or.
	or if it's some other thing that we've been demoralized by the media or if it's some combination of all those things.
	But when he says things like cruel and unusual punishment, torture, when he says that the politicians in the state are cheating in elections, from the position of the president of the United States, the executive, the commander in chief, those are very serious accusations, right?
	They are very serious accusations.
	The very first contingency operations that I ever trained on was for exactly this moment in time in our history.
	It's not going to turn out very well for California.
	It's not going to turn out very well for the Colorado.
	Are they finally going to roll out Jade Helm fifteen?
	Is that what's coming?
	All I can say is that they're very foolish and they think that they have allies that they don't and they don't understand the amount of weight that will come down on them is something that will.
	that would it will be inescapable and shock and awe will probably be the best way to describe it.
	Yeah, I mean, you could hope, I guess, if you think about it, again, those types of claims coming from the executive of the nation, the chief commander in chief, that's serious.
	If I, you know, you're saying that cruel, unusual punishment, torture, these are crimes against humanity, right?
	These are very serious allegations and that's essentially what's happening to Dina Pears.
	And you know, as a Coloradan who lives here.
	here, you know, I can tell you that our state is being run by very bad people.
	Let's put it this way, very corrupt people.
	I mean, never forget, as we said in yesterday's show, pointing out, I mean, the audacity and hypocrisy, which knows no bounds, of people like Jenna Griswold coming out and saying, we're going to fight Trump on his executive order about mail and ballots because we must protect our democracy,
	says the woman who literally put together and worked diligently tirelessly on the campaign to remove Trump from the ballot in 2024 in Colorado, you can't you just can't manufacture this level of hypocrisy without just being, I believe, inherently evil.
	Right, Nick?
	Yeah, and don't forget she put the passwords out there to cheat in the election.
	Yeah, she did that too.
	I completely yeah, I completely forgot to say that part.
	She literally leaked the bios, the passwords to the election equipment so that anybody in any state could have probably used them because they were pretty general.
	passwords to rig their machines against Trump.
	And they still lost.
	And nothing ever came of that.
	She just said, Oops, my bad.
	I, you know, I guess it was an accident.
	You know, I tripped and fell and leaked all the passwords to all the voting machines in the state, or most of them.
	Or maybe, before I was notified, I had left him up there for another week.
	Yeah.
	And once I was told, I just left him up and then got around to it once everybody had enough time to get them and copy them and disseminate them out across the internet.
	That's a crime.
	Yet she faces no.
	It's not a secret.
	It is.
	It is.
	And these people think they're untouchable.
	And I guess if history is any indicator they are at this point, nothing has happened.
	Nothing has happened to her.
	Nothing has happened to the corrupt, you know, Phil Wiser and what he's done to Tina Peters and others in this state.
	These people just march around like they're untouchable.
	And for all intents and purposes at this point they are.
	So if what you say is even remotely true, Nick, and we have any semblance of law and order and justice in this country left.
	These people will face culpability for their actions and face accountability for their crimes.
	But hey, Craig, I have something else to add to that sauce, more sauce.
	President Trump just sent down Aegis ships off the coast of Venezuela.
	Let me explain to the audience what that means.
	Maduro's out there talking trash, and remember that the largest population of trendy Aragua and Venezuelans illegals is in Colorado for a reason.
	The CIA after nine hundred eleven partnered with the FBI, and their whole thing is domestically with, what they would do is bring people from other countries to the United States, train them to be operatives for the United States against the other one, and send them back.
	But the CIA has not been sending them back.
	They are not sending anyone back.
	They're inviting more people.
	And so what's going to happen is Maduro, he's just, you know, saying, Oh, I've got my, I raised my militia, I have millions of people.
	Listen up, buddy.
	This is what's going to happen.
	That Aegis, those Aegis missiles, what they're going to do, they're going to go faster than your radar can detect.
	So as you're out sitting on your toilet tweeting, showing us exactly where you're at, you're going to get a war head.head on your head.
	Okay, Maduro?
	Warheads on your heads.
	That's a good.
	That's a good rock.
	That's gonna go.
	Yeah, Warheads on heads, Hula.
	Yeah, that's what we did.
	For a long time, I helped do that stuff.
	And I'm telling you right now, Maduro's days are, he's, he's, he's not gonna make it past this month.
	He's gonna be gone.
	And then, guess what?
	Then Colorado is on the table and they're gonna come hard, I promise.
	I mean, you come to Colorado to, you know, give them what for?
	You know, the love, the love, the love.
	lovingly adjudicate the law.
	Yes.
	Peacefully.
	We're going to peacefully adjudicate them.
	So I think it's funny, and not to switch topics too quickly, but it is interesting to look at Venezuela from a resource wealth perspective.
	I mean, the numbers are staggering as far as the gold and oil and things that are in Venezuela and how this sort of destabilized country is consensual.
	They don't want any major nation state actor to come in and have control of any part of that major national, that major resource wealth.
	So they destabilize it on purpose, leave a communist there who's going to destroy it.
	And then the American, I think the CIA is far more involved in Venezuela than we let on.
	I think it's exactly like what you're saying there, training Trende Araguas and others to go back and do their bidding in Venezuela to keep it destabilized, to keep countries like Russia and China and others from being able to develop strong, that's actually right.
	Yes.
	And so this is all over their oil.
	Their oil is dirty.
	Venezuela has dirty oil.
	It has way too much you have to put way too much energy in to get any energy out.
	It's like getting corn ethanol.
	It's it's not even worth it.
	It's like the tar sands of Canada.
	We don't even want it.
	But their whole reasoning with the State Department was like, oh, they got some oil and stuff, baby.
	Let's go a a very vast, I think it's the largest untapped gold, the largest untapped deposit of gold in the world, if I'm not mistaken.
	And I know that.
	Gold is the key factor in all of it, I think because, you know, Russia has been making in ways and trying to, and China as well, because the gold is going to be a part of the bricks.
	And this is why I think we've been destabilizing that country for so long and making sure that we I think I believe that we're propping up the Chavez or who not Chavez, Mr. Maduro.
	I think we're propping him up and we're keeping him, you know, because he's a hardcore nationalist who doesn't want any outside influence and he's willing to work with other countries, but he's not willing to part with the resource wealth.
	And I think that is intentional because if China comes in or Russia comes in and is able to tap into that gold and that oil, but moreover the gold, that strengthens their economic position for BRICS and other, you know, ventures that they're in.
	I agree with you one hundred percent.
	So it's going to get really exciting really fast.
	These navy ships are off the coast, man, at any given time.
	And that's something beautiful, too, with all these cartels that they've already been mapped out years ago.
	So whenever they go to take these cartels out, which is part of Maduro, he's been doing a lot of cocaine trading.
	Yeah, but I don't I don't think they're going to take the cartels out.
	I think they want the cartels to be there.
	I think they want these, you know, erratic, unpredictable, you know, radical, what is it called?
	Insurgent forces that are, you know, well funded and well placed so that in the event, you know, that there's any foreign influence operations that come in, that they can use these cartels to fight them and keep them from, like if China comes in and wants to develop gold mines and they just can get these insurgent forces to go destroy the mine, you know, and kill the Chinese workers.
	And so, and I think this is the dirty little secret that they don't tell us about why we haven't wiped out the cartels even though we can in an instant if we really wanted to, right?
	The very little secret is we need the cartels because they're in ways more effective and more efficient than conventional military resources at doing that exact thing, you know, basically preventing our enemies from gaining influence in South America and Central America.
	So I think that's like you've just cracked the whole code on it.
	And this is why Trump's never just said, hey, we're going to send the military into Mexico and everyone's like, why don't we just do that?
	Well, it's because we use the cartel.
	to fight off, defend off our adversaries.
	So we can't do that.
	Anyway, stay tuned.
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	All right, Nick, we're back.
	And I, and I, someone brought up an interesting point and I want to get your thoughts on it because I think that there is a lot, there's many different ways people view the Venezuela issue and it's an interesting conversation.
	So we're basically saying here on air that, you know, Venezuela, my contention is that Venezuela is sort of a vassal state that has been, It's one of those third world countries, dictatorships that's upheld and sort of supported secretly by our government because they need it there to keep other countries from coming and exploiting resource wealth that would strengthen them and undermine our sort of protectionism that we've imposed upon this part of the world,
	you know, South, Central and North America, right?
	But there's the other camp of thinking.
	that would say that we've tried this and we've failed in Venezuela.
	And Venezuela is one of the few independent countries that's outside of the Rothschild banking system.
	So you have like Iran and Venezuela and some other countries, Russia, who are outside of the Rothschild banking system.
	And that, you know, and then that gets into that realm of thought.
	What are your thoughts on that?
	I think, yeah, you're right about all that stuff.
	And think about it this way.
	CIA, State Department, they got to make promises to Maduro.
	You know, all right, you're our guy, man.
	You stay in here, keep hanging tough, hang tight.
	And he's got to be like, I need some assurances.
	Okay, what do you need?
	I need my people over there.
	over in Colorado, you know, where their CIA headquarters is domestically.
	I want my people over there, you know, just in case, you know, something pops off and then, you know, I can return in kind the tax.
	And that's what it is.
	It's like Colorado's being held hostage for Maduro to make the deal stick.
	And that's what's happening.
	And Trump, he mentions Tina Peters, he mentions the illegal elections, and then Maduro loses his mind.
	Why?
	Because he knows what comes next for him.
	He has no more protections.
	Colorado is going to get cleaned up and he's not going to have the leverage he once had.
	He's done, and he knows it.
	Yeah, it would be a leverage point, I guess, to say that if something happens in Venezuela, he can have his sort of militant militia here do bad things to us, right?
	I guess that would be the sort of juxtaposition of it all.
	But I was just saying more broadly, it's weird to have these competing ideas, because I think that there's a lot of validity to the idea.
	And there's obviously from the 40,000 foot view maybe even get a little higher, you know, you have the Rothschild banking cartel and the states that aren't part of it are the ones who end up getting targeted repeatedly.
	But I think there's also layers of deception built into all that.
	And I think it's more like what you're saying where there's negotiations, right?
	One thing we know historically, when you open up the CIA's books, right, when they do finally admit what they were actually doing in certain countries, particularly like United Fruit, right, and South America and how they were just basically getting these banana republics put in so that they could control, you know, the drugs and the resources down there.
	There's a degree of truth in the fact that these countries remain outside of that banking system, that cartel banking syndicate.
	But then sometimes I would wonder, I mean, if they wanted them in the cart, in the system, in that cartel system, they would have them in that cartel system, right?
	I think they leave them outside intentionally.
	They leave them outside because, again, you create an insurgent force.
	It's like, it's a bigger version of what the insurgency was, for instance, in Iraq.
	or Afghanistan with the, you know, Mujahideen and Al-Qaeda.
	It's just a larger version of that when you have a whole country as an insurgent force that then can destabilize a region and make it so that that region is untenable for anybody to do business in except the people who have the ground,
	who have laid the groundwork and have the inroads like, well, like you said, the CIA who already has the groundwork and the inroads to dealing with these South American nations and their resources and this protected asset that we're making sure that not only the Venezuelans aren't really able to access because ever since we destabilized and toppled it and it kind of became what it is,
	they're not extracting oil at the same rate they used to, at least as I understand it.
	They're not able to, you know, they don't have the ability to extract the wealth that they could.
	That's all left in ground and that becomes an asset that we protect as a as this American, you know, regional American power, you know, that's ours.
	We're just leaving it in the ground.
	The people on the ground on top of it are just puppets there to, you know, bad actors so that if China comes in., we can bribe the right cartel guys.
	They go kill all the Chinese miners and blow up the mine.
	Or when the oil company comes in from Russia or from China to put offshore wells, and then we can have some terror attack that's funded through Trinidad Aragua or Maduro to blow it up, or you know what I mean?
	Or some shoot of that in some territory surrounding it, like Colombia or one of the other South American nations around it.
	Yeah, one hundred percent.
	Look at the poppy fields in Afghanistan.
	That's what they really are.
	The best example, the poppy fields.
	That's a good example.
	And then when you say in ground., you know, yeah, in ground, and they don't let the state do it, but like the Black Ops people, they probably go rinse, basically use water, and you can rinse the rinse away, you know, you go to the veins and you use water, you just spray it, and then that's where you get to the gold.
	The gold gets exposed, you can just take it right out of there, and you can pay for your Black Ops that way, can't you?
	So it's a perfect setup, Craig.
	I think we cracked the code today.
	I don't know if we cracked the code.
	I just think that, and there are layers.
	I do think that there is, I guess my, I think it's true that they are outside the, obviously, they're outside the.
	Rothschild banking cartel.
	I think the debate would then become something to the effect of is that because Venezuela is so strong and able and capable or is it because this is allowed and intentional and this is the desired, you know, outcome?
	I think you got it.
	I think you got it right, man.
	Well, I mean, I don't know.
	I'm humble enough.
	I put my hand up.
	I don't know everything.
	I think this is my theory.
	This is what I believe.
	It's not doesn't mean that it's true by any means, but it definitely to me seems like the most this would be more lik logical than the alternative, which would be saying that Venezuela is somehow so powerful that it's avoided being completely overthrown and dominated by a country like America, for instance, that can do this and has shown it's able to do this in so many other countries so easily, right?
	Like if we wanted to do shock and awe in Venezuela, we would have done it already.
	We would have had the Jets drop the bombs, Maduro would have been, ended up like Gaddafi or Saddam or you name the dictator who's been deposed and we would have done that already., but we don't.
	And then you have to ask why.
	Why don't we?
	And it's because I believe we want Venezuela to be run by a dictator that is not accountable to the world.
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	I'm your host, Craig James with Nick No.
	So I think this is an interesting conversation, Nick, because you could take this even deeper and further by looking at, for instance, you know, I was thinking about it and you look at, you know, geographically where Venezuela is and what significance that has with regard to Central America and the United States and North America in general.
	you look at then sort of the significance of Gaddafi in Libya and what he was doing, right?
	And he was running a state that seemed very similar to what is happening in Venezuela, except to a little bit of a different – there's a different aspect to it.
	The tinge of he wanted to do the African currency based on gold.
	He really was trying to create this new – So like, I look at it this way.
	I think that the way that we see the resource wealth of South America as basically belonging to us, and we have for a very long time here in the United States and America, I think Europe sees Africa and its wealth in the same way.
	I think that in almost the identical way that you have Venezuela, you had Libya, and I think there's a reason why there are like neocons and deep state democrats and all these people who help facilitate the overthrow of Libya because it imploded into a state that again provides that same destabilizing force that we talked about for Venezuela.
	And South America generally speaking, a place to breed insurgent forces which can be used to destabilize any effort by other nations to come in and exploit mineral resource wealth of these third world countries.
	Like if China is building roads in Africa, well, you can get radical Islamic terrorists to go to X or YZ nation in Africa and blow up the mines, blow up the kill the workers.
	Pipeline.
	Blow up the pipelines, blow up whatever it is they're developing, right?
	Yeah, look.
	Look, you're right.
	I think you were so right that I'm making a call right now.
	This is what's going to happen and this is why this is all happening now.
	If you go look at the pictures of the White House whenever, what's his name from Ukraine came to visit Zelenskyy, if you look at the map that was in the background, there were definitely areas, there were definitely areas that were carved out.
	About a fifth of the entirety of Ukraine was going to be given to Russia.
	Okay, now what does that mean?
	The rare earth elements that we had been fighting for in the first place that we really wanted there, not just the food, of course, that's great, but we want the rare earths that we had found there.
	So we're going to lose those rare earths There in Ukraine, okay?
	And then in exchange for that, you know, Russia is going to take that, and then Russia, I believe, will help us.
	Yeah, they're going to stand down in Venezuela.
	That's right.
	That's right.
	And then that, so this is it.
	Okay, so then you got Because that makes sense, because Russia has been making inroads there, and we don't want that.
	So we're Exactly.
	It's like a horse trade.
	We're saying, okay.
	Now watch this, dad.
	Now watch this.
	This is what's going to happen.
	Maduro, he has two.
	He has the most sophisticated missiles right off the coast.
	And I'm not even exaggerating.
	Like, it's just like a bullet.
	It is going to go so fast that it would go faster than the radar can even pick it up.
	And literally, the tip of the warhead would go through his forehead.
	That's how accurate these are.
	He has no sense of it.
	His phone was ringing from his general saying, Incoming missile, signor President.
	Yeah.
	Wha?
	Yeah.
	Exactly.
	So what's going to happen is, Trump's going to call Maduro and he's going to say, hey, I want to make a deal with you.
	We'll get the rare earths.
	We'll get the gold.
	We don't want your oil.
	It's trash.
	listen, we're going to allow you to live as long as you do what we say, but you also have to help us with getting all the Trendy Aragua people out.
	And he'll give them the map.
	He'll give them the list.
	Think of it this way, too.
	And then he'll take them all out.
	Think of it this way, too, because I just thought of something that's interesting.
	I think the fact that you should factor in the Rothschild stuff, too, because what if another factor that we're maybe not factoring in here as much is that there were private entities like the Rothschild Bank cartel and others who are trying to extract that wealth independent of the universities
	United States right and this same thing is happening perhaps in Africa or other places and that let's presume that Trump's actually doing what he says he's doing which is trying to make America great, trying to restore American greatness and restore our economic greatness, et cetera, et cetera.
	What if he's basically made the deal to say, okay, well, we're going to stop.
	And the Democrats were saying, like, oh, yeah, we'll help keep Maduro in power, and then all the elites who are part of this cartel, who live in Russia and America, go down there and then suck it dry.
	And Trump's like, no, no, no, no.
	We're not going to have that anymore.
	But again, then he has to work with some corporations.
	That's why everybody says, well, Trump's working with Apple and he's working with all these people.
	The other alternative to that, I guess, is like state run enterprise on everything, and then it's like the USSR, you know?
	So I don't know what the alternative is to working.
	So you have to work with some of these corporations, but that's why he's sort of vetting these corporations, I guess, and making sure that they invest in America, onshore their capital, onshore their manufacturing, you know, make these deals about reinvesting capital, you know, Apple investing an extra hundred billion dollars.
	It's like, it's all so I couldn't, I don't envy Trump in his position, let's put it that way.
	And I know a lot of people can armchair quarterback a lot of things and say, if I was in there, I'd do this, I'd do that.
	But I think what happens is when you get to that position of presidency and you look at the whole world and what's going on and you have to sit down and actually start making these decisions, boy, oh boy, does it get complicated?
	It's not as simple as you think it is, especially given the history.
	I don't know, Nick, that's my thought.
	I'm wondering.
	That's true.
	That's why he's, that's why he's, he's got to make deals.
	That's why you're going to know, you're going to see in the next couple of weeks, Trump is going to call Maduro and say, hey, we need to make a deal.
	And then after that deal is made, you're going to see Homeland Security and ICE come into Colorado, clean out Trende Aragua, and then the commandoes from Venezuela that have been training them will probably get safe passage back to Venezuela because it's part of the deal.
	Under the guise of being deported, of course.
	Yes, yes.
	And then as part of the deal, then it's cleared out.
	And then the leadership of Colorado is sitting there with their pants and, you know, their hands or something.
	I don't know.
	There's a saying there.
	I can't even think of it.
	Anyway, stay tuned.
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	Welcome back to Just Forum Talk Radio.
	I am your host, Craig James with Nick.
	Now it's our final segment, Nick, final thought for the show.
	And we'll talk about this more tomorrow, hopefully.
	It's great, great topics, great, everything, but unfortunately, we hit that final segment.
	Ah, it's been so much fun wargaming this.
	Yeah.
	And that's all it is at the end of the day.
	We're just wargaming.
	We don't we don't know for sure that anything was because a lot of this stuff you know, you you have to have a certain level of clearance to even know the truth about anything, right?
	Let's be honest.
	But it's fun to speculate and sort of wargame it.
	But final thought.
	My final thought is that President Trump is going to make a deal with Maduro and we're going to get everything cleaned out.
	Colorado will be saved.
	Tina Perez will be saved.
	President Trump, again, will show us how good of a president he is.
	And don't forget, everybody, that in the end God wins.
	Thank you.
	I love that.
	And it's much I like that.
	It's a little more optimistic of a, you know, hopeful thing than some some perspectives are like a little less hopeful.
	And I don't know.
	I'm a hopeful optimist.
	But I love this verse because it reminded me of it today.
	James chapter four and we'll read a little bit of it.
	It says, what is the source of wars and fights among you?
	Don't they come from the cravings that are at war within you?
	You desire and do not have.
	You murder and covet and cannot obtain.
	You fight and war.
	You do not have because you do not ask.
	You ask and don't receive because you ask with wrong motives so that you may spend it on your evil desires.
	Adulteres Don't you know that friendship with the world is hostility toward God, so whoever wants to be the world's friend becomes God's enemy?
	Or do you think it's without reason the Scripture says that the Spirit who lives in us yearns jealously?
	But he gives greater grace, therefore he says God resists the proud but gives grace the humble, therefore submit to God but resist the devil, and he will flee from you.
	Draw near to God and he will draw near to you.
	Cleanse your hands, sinners, and purify your hearts, double minded people.
	Be miserable and mourn and weep.
	Your laughter must change to mourning and your joy to sorrow.
	Humble yourselves before the Lord and he will exalt you.
	And I love that verse because it speaks to what is the motivation and drive behind all these wars.
	Because regardless of what the logistics of these battles and wars are that are happening in our world all around us, this verse to me embodies exactly where it all lies, which is in the heart of man and the desires that men covet that are of this world.
	And they desire not only to have the things that are of this world, but to be friends with this world.
	And don't fall into that trap, my friends.
	Do not ask with the wrong motives.
	Remind yourself that friendship with this world is becoming an enemy of God and, finally, resist the devil and he will flee from you.
	And draw close to God and let him draw close to you.
	And if you haven't accepted Jesus as your Lord and Savior, I'm going to leave it there.
	Please open your heart, say a prayer, call upon his name, accept him and allow him to fill you with the Holy Spirit and bring you that relationship with God.
	But that's where I'm going to leave you.
	We'll be back tomorrow, same time, same place.
	Thanks to the Textors.
	Thanks to everyone listening.
	Thanks to Nick.
	We'll be back.
	I'm your host, Craig James with Nick Know.
	We'll see you on the next one.
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