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I'm your host, Craig James, with, of course, our intrepid co-host, who joins us Thursdays and Fridays.
Here, we're so thankful, again, to be joined by Mr. Nick No.
You guys know him by now, but if you don't, he's got an incredible background history.
He's the Benghazi whistleblower, U.S. Air Force veteran and military intelligence insider, who gives us the breakdown of all breakdowns every week here on the show.
We're very thankful to be joined by him once again.
And today we're also going to have a special guest joining us in hour two.
And I'll let Nick tell you more about who that is.
But yeah, Nick, welcome to the show.
Thanks, Craig.
We got Lynn Scott coming on today.
She's actually a person that, well, long story short, she'll tell you her story.
But she went through some things as a child that is a lot more common than people think.
And it's basically going to teach every one of the listeners about the realities that these families and these practices are all really taking place.
And that all those rumors of Hollywood and everything like that, they're all very real.
And her story will help bring it down to earth and take away the mythology of it.
And I'm glad that she's coming on to talk to everybody.
And also is going to bring awareness for people.
Signs, things to look out for, you know.
A lot of times the things that are happening that she's going to be talking about, which I know is really dark stuff in the realm of like, you know, ritualistic abuse and that kind of thing that happens inside of these families that, you know, from the outside appear pretty normal, right?
Yeah, they seem completely normal.
They'll go to church regularly, like regular Christian church, and then they will, you know, every quarterly when there's like a moot, like, you know, whatever their dates and everything matter, you know, then they go out and do their rituals and stuff.
You know, it's at least hers might be different, but you know, like her experience, but that's kind of how it is.
And it's all hidden there in plain sight.
And it's wild to think about these people walking among us.
Yeah, it's going to be interesting, to say the least, I guess, for hour two.
We're going to make sure we get to that.
But before we get there, we've got to get through hour one.
And then, you know, what else is in the news beside the never-ending, you know, saga that continues here?
Once again, we have the Epstein story and apparently Ghislaine, Ghislaine, Gillane, whatever you want to call her.
I don't know how to say her name still to this day.
But she, Maxwell, that is Robert Maxwell's daughter, Jeffrey Epstein's right-hand woman, who is serving a 20-year sentence down in Club Fed in Tallahassee, Florida.
She was interviewed by DOJ officials yesterday for about five hours.
And it seems as though we're not sure what came out of that other than the fact that she was pictured with some sort of package as she re-entered the prison after her meeting with the DOJ.
We don't know what was in there, but we do know that at this point, there is an expectation that her testimony will be taken via, I think, deposition.
I don't know if that was started with the DOJ yesterday or if that's coming later in the future here, but she was slated to testify, I guess, before Congress, or at least that's what they were trying to get done.
But of course, being that our government is so broken and corrupt and completely full of waste, fraud, and abuse, they're going on a month-long vacation, one of their many vacations that they get as Congress members.
Man, they have a great schedule.
I wish I should, no, I shouldn't say that.
I was going to say I should run for Congress, although I don't think I would enjoy the other parts, you know, the whole like attempted blackmailing and extortion and bribery that they would probably try to do against anybody who tries to get in that position.
But, and then you have to lie, and I don't like lying either.
So I guess the point, though, is that they're taking a long break.
And I think that whatever testimony that's going to end up being given or taken is going to be done presumably by, it sounds like staffers of Congressmen and women on Capitol Hill and possibly some members of Congress.
And it'll be done while Congress is on break.
So that's an interesting little tidbit about it all.
But Nick, if you had to pontificate or guess as to what the contents of the discussion were between the DOJ officials and Gillane, Gylane, Gylane Maxwell, what do you think they were talking about?
Well, they probably talked about what AIPAC has on each individual congressperson.
That's what I'm guessing, because that's what matters right now.
Because we're about to go into session, right?
We're going to go into a recess, whatever.
They're not going to be in session.
And the only time you can arrest a congressperson for crimes outside of treason or high crimes and misdemeanors or whatever is when they're not in session.
So as soon as they go home, I believe August is going to be a very, very hot month, man.
That's a good point.
I guess you can't.
There is like some weird rule that when the House is in session, congressmen and women have some kind of like, I don't know, it's like some kind of immunity to a degree.
I don't know how broad it is, but I think they can't be arrested on the floor.
I think that's sort of the, I think if they leave, they can.
But either way, that's an interesting thought to consider.
And when you say AIPAC, I mean, APAC is a political organization.
You're making the inference to foreign intelligence services blackmailing U.S. Congressmen and women, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, sure.
Yeah, I mean, it's Israel, but then again, you know, Israel and the CIA both are in on it.
Yeah, but you don't think MI6 is doing it.
You don't think Australian intelligence is doing it?
You don't think, you know, Chinese intelligence is doing it.
Oh, yeah, they all have a terrible.
It's a terrible dark arts practice.
Yeah, and it's terrible, but they do, and it's been going on for too long.
I just think we focus too much on Israel.
We lose the, you know, you kind of, you have to keep it in perspective to say, perhaps, yes, Israel is doing it, but if I was a betting man, which I'm not, but I might, you know, I might be in this regard.
I would wager a hefty sum that every intelligence agency in the world practically is attempting to blackmail or bribe congressmen in the U.S. and women.
100%.
The CIA actually found out that that's way more effective than breaking in and getting caught all the time doing stuff.
They're just bribing.
Yeah, well, Watergate didn't end too well for them.
But now they just, if they're going to do Watergate, they don't even need to break in.
They just hire the, you know what I mean?
They just have somebody get hired and then use them from the inside.
So they figured out, they learned their lesson there, unfortunately for we, the American people.
But we're going to take a break real quick, of course, and we're going to come back and keep going.
There are some other interesting stories to look at as well, including the ever-developing...
The Obama and Clapper and Brennan and Comey spying and Rushgate, it's still developing.
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I'm your host, Craig James with Nick No.
And Nick, I got to be honest, at this point, the whole story about Russia gate, it's the same thing as Epstein.
It's like we already know what they did.
They just keep giving us proof.
And there's two ways you could sort of interpret what they're doing, right?
And I know I've heard both interpretations among many others, but the two I think are most likely are A, they're preparing to, you know, have these arrests like you've been saying, and that there's really justice on the way and that it's all going to be, you know, coming soon.
And I think that's possible.
And I think, you know, again, I'm a TrustPa Verify guy, so I'll wait and I'll believe it when I see it.
I'm not going to hold my breath, right?
I've learned that at least much.
Fool me once, right?
Shame on you.
Fool me twice.
The point is I'm not going to get fooled again, to quote George.
But I do want to point out the other alternative reality where this is something they've done often where they will commit a crime and then flagrantly and then lie about it flagrantly and then some years after the fact come out and tell you, yes, by the way, we did commit that crime.
And then the fact that nothing happens, nobody gets arrested, no trials, no nothing is a form of like demoralization.
And it's a way to sort of put basically to break people's spirits, right?
It's how you like break a horse, you know, you basically condition the population to accept their subservience.
So, Nick, I mean, as we see more information coming out, and John Brennan is on Jen Sakai's show on MSDNC, The Briefing, and he's saying things like this.
I mean, just give me your thoughts on all of it.
And listen, this was John Brennan just the other day.
Tulsi Gabbard, you know, she may be impaired on the ethics front, certainly, but she's not impaired on the intellect front.
And so I can only presume that she is doing this intentionally, intentionally mischaracterizing, misrepresenting, and lying about what she has found.
Tulsi's lying, I tell you.
We totally were very above the board.
What are your thoughts?
I mean, because in the moment, because there are no indictments and because there are no investigations that seem to be like we've been told there are investigations, but we can't really know, it does feel like sort of a conditioning us for demoralization campaigns.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
The media is going to try and spin it and then make it seem like, oh, you can accept this and gaslight us into accepting it.
And the demoralization process is part of that.
For example, every time we think that justice is going to come, you know, let's see, Clinton, oh, she had all these classified stuff she was selling to people in Russia or whatever.
Oh, nothing to see here.
I'm sure everybody was like, yes, finally, someone going to jail.
And then Nothing happens.
And over and over and over again.
And we talked about this before, and you pointed it out perfectly.
They designed the system this way.
After 9-11, it's too political.
We can't prosecute people because they move the responsibility over to the FBI.
It's a big problem.
And now they're unraveling it.
And I think with John Brennan's comment there, you know, that guy, I can't tell if he's just really, really narcissistic and is too self-absorbed to understand that he's not good at what he does and he's gotten caught every time.
I think that sounds very likely to me.
I think, yeah, because either his track record, there's an air of arrogance with him that is like, you people are beneath me type of vibe.
Yeah, it sounded like he almost as if he had taken a wine glass, ripped one, and then sniffed it right before he went to his interview, man.
Yeah, the heir they do that.
And those fancy clubs in D.C., that's what they do.
No, I agree.
I think, I don't know what you were going to say alternatively to that, but I assume it was something like he's not very smart or something, or he's just evil.
But I do think that he's arrogant enough to believe that, you know, whatever he's doing, it's almost like he's presenting himself with the knowledge that he's untouchable.
Yes.
And I don't know if he is untouchable, but I do know that the media is certainly portraying that.
And I think also he understands the more he gets into the spotlight, the more he puts himself in front of the cameras, the more he puts himself in the public eye, the more difficult it will be for him to be culpable or to face culpability because that in and of itself is a sort of protection for him, right?
Yeah, but what Brandon doesn't know, well, he probably does know, is that the military tribunals that started for 9-11, after 17 years, they now have the evidence, we're talking files and audio recordings of him, you know, the evidence of him being a part of 9-11 and an orchestrate being part of the orchestration.
He even signed off on the passports.
His signature is on there.
He's the most R-word spy in history.
He's an insurance policy for him, though?
Ah, yes.
He thinks he's untouchable because he's going to bring everybody else down with him.
Yeah, I guess so.
But whoever talks first wins.
I don't know why I laughed at that, but that is funny.
I do think it is funny that that's what is going to happen here.
It's just going to be, it's like what we're seeing with Tulsi Gabbard, which is interesting, is as she's uncovering all this stuff, we're having all of these whistleblowers come forward.
And I think it is like a race to, it's like the memo was, it seems like there was a memo put out internally that was like exactly what you said.
It's like the first to come clean wins immunity.
And I think a lot of people jumped on that, which is why a lot of people are saying it was Obama, it was Brennan, it was Clapper.
These guys were the ones telling us what to do.
We were just following orders.
And now I don't know.
I think Trump, what does Trump have to lose?
Susie Gabbard, you know, she may be impaired on the ethics front, certainly.
What does Trump have to lose with regard to he doesn't need to get reelected?
He has no, you know, I mean, besides the midterm elections, I guess that's the only thing he really needs to consider politically at this point.
So perhaps all this stuff will draw into the midterms and then go, and then it will really begin in earnest after the midterms.
Does that sound like a timeframe that you've kind of thought of?
Yeah, but if I was them, this is what I would do.
I would arrest all of the people who are guilty of treason, whether the Republican or Democrat, doesn't matter.
Because when they do, it'll be more than enough to keep the level of people participating in Congress below a quorum, so they cannot vote on anything.
So it won't matter anyway, and Congress will be basically ineffectual until it gets cleaned up after that.
If they arrested all those people during this August, then Congress couldn't even do anything to try and mess with them or mess with anybody until they clean everything up.
And that's what I would do.
It would just take that piece off the board.
There's no worries now.
That's gone.
The crazy politicians that are captured doesn't matter anymore because at that point you arrest them all, then they can't vote against the wishes and best interests of the United States any longer because they won't have enough people to do it.
That's what I would do.
I think that's a good idea.
I think I agree 100%.
So with that in mind, I want to play this clip.
Tulsi Gabbard went on One American News with Matt Gates the other day and gave this explanation on sort of a further explanation of it all, which I think is interesting to listen to.
Let's hear it.
I've always wondered this, Director Gabbard.
Who was the highest ranking person in the U.S. government who knew that there were Russian subsources in the dossier when it was used in the intelligence community assessment?
Well, what the documents show that we've released, and again, this is not my view or my opinion, but the evidence is there for those who choose to actually read what we released, which is that these senior CIA officials specifically pointed out to CIA Director John Brennan that the sources that he wanted to use to support this manufactured intelligence assessment that President Obama ordered be created were basically so
trash, They didn't meet traditional intelligence community trade craft standards, which is why they were never used before.
And in these four main pieces of evidence that were used, in every example, John Brennan basically overruled their objections and said, nope, you've got to use them anyway.
I think the other important point here is that one of those key pieces of so-called sources that Brennan used for this fake assessment was a seal dossier.
They knew it was discredited.
These senior CIA officials wouldn't even think of using it because they knew that it was not a piece of credible intelligence, nor was it a credible source.
John Brennan told them to use it anyway, tried to hide it by highly compartmentalizing and classifying this document, and then went and lied to the American people and lied directly to Congress when he was asked very specifically, did you use the steel dossier in the creation of this intelligence assessment that was published in January of 2017?
And in both cases, both to Congress and the American people in an interview, he said no.
Emphatically, he said no.
It was not used in any way to create this intelligence assessment that President Obama ordered.
It was used.
I was that congressman he lied to.
I was the one who deposed him in 2023, and his willingness to disclaim any involvement in that was striking even at the time.
All right.
So there's a theory going around there out there that, and you can comment on this, Nick, because I'd love to hear your perspective on it.
But the theory is they need a metaphorical scalp here to take in D.C., and somebody high up has to go.
And it's not going to be Obama.
That's the, I don't know, I think they're manufacturing sort of a consensus around that in the fake news right now.
Like pretty much all of the gatekeeping, you know, right and left-wing news organizations are saying in lockstep, Obama's untouchable because they're citing things like executive privilege, presidential immunity, et cetera.
They're saying that basically Obama's untouchable, but Trump wants a metaphorical scalp to take here, and it has to be somebody high up.
And people are saying that it looks like it's going to be Brennan.
And in that scenario, let's say that that is what's going to happen, Nick.
Would you be satisfied with that outcome if Obama gets off and Brennan goes down and nobody else really of any substance is taken?
I think it'd be strategic when they take out Brennan, and that's what I would do too.
Because if you take out a lower guy, that will, okay, during recess, right, in August, when all these congresspeople who are corrupt are going to be like, oh, my gosh, and then they're going to start talking.
They are going to go nuts.
All of them are going to go bonkers.
Even the corrupt people inside the government are going to say, oh, no, oh, no, oh, no.
And they're going to start talking to each other.
And when that happens, they're going to catch them.
They're going to catch even more people than they thought they would.
I'm sure of it.
But when they take Brendan's scalp, if they do that, I think it's the best move.
He's going to sing like a canary.
He only has loyalty to himself.
Yeah, I could see that.
I mean, yeah, I don't know.
I don't know.
I've thought about that over the last, you know, 24 hours or so.
Just would I be satisfied with that?
And I guess the answer that I came to was basically, what other choice do I have?
You know, at some point, you got to just take a victory where you can get it.
And, you know, we've talked about the implications of arresting a guy like Obama and how they're just not going to do it because of that.
So it may be the best we can hope for.
All right.
Stay tuned.
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I'm your host, Craig James with Nick No.
And, you know, Nick, it's an interesting thought that we kind of are pontificating upon here.
But somebody texted in, our good friend Henry texted in and said, if these people get arrested and if they go to trial, how would you ever find a jury in D.C. that would convict?
Well, I would say, A, there is always an option to take them into court or take them into a jurisdiction that obviously is less biased.
I think you can move trials.
That is an option.
Now, would they be able to?
You can petition the court to say that, you know, this jurisdiction is not, you'd be incapable of having a fair trial here, so they move it.
And I don't know if that's a move or a petition that usually comes from the defense as opposed to the prosecution, because in that case, it would probably have to come from the prosecution, of course.
Because if you're Brennan, you'd want to be in a D.C. court because you would get a favorable jury trial.
But, Nick, you're saying there is going to be no jury trial.
This is going to be a court-martial or a U.S. military court.
Yeah, I'm convinced, Craig, and I'm convinced because of the things that Cash Patel said and because Dan Bongino got angry.
I know why he got angry because he wanted to take a crack at them and he didn't get to now.
And now he's mad because now he's working for the, you know, law enforcement, and now he can't talk about it.
Now he can't do his show, and he's angry because he doesn't get to do anything.
Well, also, I think you'd imagine that Bongino's pissed because he spent the last however many years railing against Obama and saying he's guilty of everything.
And now they're basically coming to the conclusion and Epstein.
And they're basically saying, like, none of this is ever going to come out.
And, you know, the Epstein can't come out because he's probably been briefed and read in on like the whole Adnan Khashoggi and the Iran-Contra deal that Epstein was basically working for the government.
And that makes him that's what that's what made him untouchable, not the blackmail stuff.
And the blackmail stuff was a convenient cover they used to make it seem as though that's why he wasn't going to be prosecuted or at least he was that the contents of the trial would never come out anyway publicly.
But, yeah.
I bet he was involved with Khashoggi when he I bet you he was involved with him.
And that's how he was at Khashoggi.
But Khashoggi provided the weapons to Ben Talal and his helicopter pilots that shot up Las Vegas.
That was Khashoggi's people.
That was Jamal Khashoggi.
That was Adnan Khashoggi's son or nephew or son or something like that.
And that was the guy who got chopped up at a Saudi embassy and boiled in acid, apparently.
Yeah, because he wasn't just a journalist.
He was the guy who was still doing his dad's job.
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly.
There's a great we played a few clips from it.
Tucker Carlson did a great interview with Daryl Cooper.
Three hours.
I watched the whole thing.
And it was just on the history of Jeffrey Epstein.
And it's I encourage anybody who hasn't seen it to go watch it because there's so much information in there that is so pertinent and valuable to understand why.
Why the government is saying what they're saying about Epstein and how he can't be how there's no list and everything.
It's all it's not because of the blackmail.
It's because trust me.
It's because of the money laundering.
It's because he was working for intelligence services in their money laundering operations.
And they don't want that.
You can't have a trial without opening up Pandora's box with regard to the illicit movement of money into and out of Jeffrey Epstein's bank accounts.
So, yeah, go ahead, Craig, I suspect that it was common practice and it's acceptable for most like CIA directors and other people to go around the world doing illegal stuff for the government, but then still get to keep some of the money.
I think that's what's been going on the whole time, because how else can you I mean, 100 grand.
Look, you got spies.
Right.
But one of the biggest issues is that they'll turn on you.
Right.
And, you know, the military, they got, you know, pretty tight controls on everything.
They, you know, obviously they sign away your life.
They can monitor you, whatever.
But on the other side of it, it's, you know, it's kind of loose.
Well, what they said in that interview, which was interesting between Tucker and Daryl, was they were kind of basically they were implying that what happened was Epstein was basically a, you know, we worked at Bear Stearns for four years on a desk, basically helping people offshore their money and obfuscate and circumvent tax liability.
And he got really good at that.
But then he had a major SEC violation.
So they had to fire him.
But that put him in a position of vulnerability where he was compromised enough to be recruited by,
by the intelligence services to work as doing the same thing but off the books for you know their offshore businesses and and things that they you know funnel black money dark money through right black budget stuff and that's what the he how he got involved with anon khashogi and that's how he got involved with iran contra and that's how he got involved with all of that and that's how he made his money and then later after he did that for a while he realized That because he was doing this stuff for these intelligence agencies,
he had a very high level of protection.
And then that gets into the crazy story of Les Wexner, who apparently gave him power of attorney and all of a sudden gave him access to his entire fortune.
And basically, overnight, he became the most powerful person in Les Wexner's company and next to Les Wexner.
And there's no explainable reason other than basically Epstein figured out that he could just blackmail the people he was working with.
And then they had to, like, he figured out how to do that very well.
And that's a lot of, like, the blackmail was not just sexual, which it was surely part of it.
But a lot of the blackmail was financial.
I mean, if you're, if you cook the books for Les Wexner, let's say, and help him offshore a bunch of money and become a multi-multi-multi-billionaire or protect his money or whatever.
And then you just say, oh, well, if you don't give me control of your company, I'm going to leave an anonymous tip with the SEC and you're going to be basically securities fraud.
You're going to be going to jail for the rest of your life.
Then the guy gives you full power of attorney over his whole life.
And then you basically have that wealth plus whatever other wealth you can take off the top from your other deals.
And that's what Epstein was doing, it seems.
So that is sort of the that is, of course, why Epstein is never going to mount.
That's why Trump keeps coming out and saying, look, there's nothing here.
That's why the FBI and DOJ said there's nothing here.
Because there's too much liability that they open themselves up to by investigating this case further, not to mention the fact that most likely whatever's left in the Epstein file, because it's been, what, 20 years almost since his original arrest, is whatever's left is probably some trap set by the previous administration to try to get Trump.
So it's like it's a no-brainer when you think about it in those terms.
But of course, the media is selling all these lies, and it's just, that's what's making this whole thing terrible and difficult to parse through.
And yeah.
Thoughts, Nick, generally?
Well, this is how Tim Burshett sees it, and I guess I kind of see it the same way, and I'm reading directly quotes from him.
Okay, so I've been told we could bring down governments and places all over the world if we release the Epstein files.
And then his comment was, well, if they're built on this, dad gummet, we ought to bring them down because they're doing business with evil.
And I'm sure Mr. Epstein's dealing with him right now.
Yeah, and I think, well, what happens is that they make the decision in Washington particularly that they're going to clean house internally and that they're not going to air.
Like the last thing they want to do is air our dirty laundry for the whole world to see.
You know, and I think because there's too many implications of that.
So we have a caller online.
If you want to hold, we'll bring you on after the break.
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But it wouldn't mean nothing.
Nothing.
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About a woman or a girl.
Yeah.
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No, Nick, we have a caller.
What do you say?
Should we pick him up?
Pick him up.
All right.
Caller, you're on the air.
What do you got?
Yeah, good morning, guys.
This is Blake from Arizona.
It's my understanding that the Supreme Court chief Nominates and appoints the FISA court judges.
That would be Roberts appointing the FISA court judges.
And it's also my understanding that Epstein coordinated and helped Roberts adopt his two children.
So, anyway, that's about it.
And I'm looking forward to the second hour of guests.
So, you guys have a good weekend.
Thank you, Blake.
And that talk about the fox watching the hen house, right?
That's like, you know, it's just one of those things where, again, all of that, what you just said, if it's true, which I have to look into that, but what you just said, plus what we kind of went over previously is like, these are all the reasons why the full Epstein stuff can never come out or will never come out for better or worse.
I'm not saying I like that.
I'm not saying it's what I want, but it's all just sort of common sense at this point that this is why they're doing what they're doing.
But thank you for the call, Blake, and thank you for the information.
Yes, sir.
Bye-bye.
God bless you.
Take care, Nick.
Hey, thanks, Blake.
Blake, I actually heard the same thing that Robert's kids were adopted.
Well, that they even illegally, they did it.
Okay, first off, let me ask you the question.
Why would a person that's a man of the law want to do an adoption that's shady?
Okay, why does it have to be specifically these people and you have to do a shady deal to get your kids?
Okay, what's going on here?
Why is it Jeffrey Epstein?
I've heard that.
Now, if it's true, I think, Craig, you're right.
Maybe that is one of the main reasons we can't talk about that stuff.
Yeah, I mean, it stands to reason that all of the above would be very reasonable reasons, reasonable reasons, for this all not to be able to come out.
And that, you know, what I think is happening here, and the gaslighting from the press is impressive.
You got to give the fake news media, like, you got to give them credit where it's due.
The level of gaslighting that they are capable of engaging in is so far beyond anything that you could even, like, you write this in a movie script.
They laugh you out of the studio because it's that implausible and unbelievable.
But the fact that these fake news reporters can get on their soapbox and tell us now, after eight years of denial and eight years of play, you know, basically running cover and eight years of just sticking their head in the sand intentionally, that, you know, that they've always been for the full release of the Epstein files.
Now that they know that the Epstein files can't come out, or they've already known, or they know that Trump can't let it out because of whatever, or he's made the decision not to because of the reasons we outlined earlier, it's like, it's almost impressive, to be honest, the level of gaslighting here.
You know, it's like, we always wanted the Epstein files.
As a matter of fact, the only reason that, you know, we didn't talk about it is because we knew Trump was in it and we were trying to protect him.
It's like, what?
What world do they think we live in, man?
Am I right?
Am I wrong?
What do you think, Nick?
Yeah, it's disgusting.
And you know what?
They're considered accessories after the fact, at the very least, and they're all guilty of misprision, of treason, and they all should go to jail.
Yeah.
In an ideal world where we had a single tier of justice system and there was the equality of law for all and blah, blah, blah, it would be nice, unicorns and rainbows and whatnot.
But in the real world, unfortunately, they're going to get away with it probably with little to no repercussions because at the end of the day, it's not even them.
They put these little puppets on the screen to read.
They're basically Muppets that read teleprompters and get paid millions of dollars to do it.
I don't know how much Brett Baer or Jen Sakai or any of these other insufferable D-bags that go on air, get paid.
But at the end of the day, those are the clowns.
And you can say they're guilty of misprision of treason.
And it's probably in part true.
But at the end of the day, it's like whoever's writing what's on the teleprompter is really the master, right?
Or whoever's approving or directing.
Like, I remember when James O'Keefe was doing those sort of in-depth reports on behind the scenes with a friend of both of ours, what's his name?
Nick Carrie Porch, who came out.
He was a whistleblower there.
And, you know, it was like you're listening to these phone calls.
You know, they have these company-wide conference calls between Jeff Zucker, the then head of CNN and all the subordinates.
And he's like, we got to go after the Trump star.
You see, like, all right, we're going to, we're going to, he's totally guilty.
So you better write that up and do it.
And it's like, so, you know, and then, and then, and even then some people will be like, well, then, why don't we go after Jeff Zucker?
It's like, Jeff Zucker is just a puppet of, you know, the forces above him, you know?
And, and you don't know the names mostly of the people who are running the show in reality.
But.
Yeah, I bet it's like three layers deep.
You get to the next one, there's another one.
Yeah.
The next one, there's another one.
For sure.
For sure.
So it's kind of like an exercise in futility to say, oh, we're going to, you know, Chris Cuomo or whoever for mispreaching of treason, it's like they'll just put another Muppet up there who will read it for a million dollar salary.
You know, these people have, you know, they go to journalism school and then, you know, take that ethics class and then they immediately forget everything they learned in it as soon as they walk out of the building and get their first multi-million dollar anchor deal.
or their first $100,000 reporter job.
So it just to me...
Like, there's just, there's a, like, within yourself, you know it.
But some people, it's just more cathartic and convenient to be like, it's all the people on the television's fault.
It's like, well, yeah, but, you know, Yeah, and they're reading a teleprompter, and then it's like, who's writing teleprompter?
And then who's telling them what to put on teleprompter?
And who's telling them what to put on the teleprompter?
It's like inception level.
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So Nick, we're back, and it looks like we have a caller.
What do you say?
Should we pick them up?
Yes, it's our caller for the next hour, actually.
Oh, okay.
Then we'll wait on that.
So if they want to hang on, we're going to bring them on just after this next commercial break.
But, Nick, I do want to say that somebody texted in very interestingly, they said from the 970, they said, I'm wondering how many suicides will happen.
Obviously, that's a reference to what ends up happening with a lot of these people, which I think the more I think about the Epstein thing, the more I kind of believe that it probably is in fact that he is dead.
I don't think that Epstein would have given any, like there would be no utility to keeping him alive.
It would just create another liability and a loose end.
And I believe that, you know, at the end of the day, the more I understand about what he did, who he worked for, and what he did as a job for intelligence agencies, which was far beyond the blackmailing stuff, I tend to believe that, you know, it was far more convenient for him to be eliminated than it would be for him to be kept around.
Just like, interestingly enough, I believe it was Jean-Luc Brunel, one of the other people that Epstein ran around with, and he was another guy who they got involved with the sort of procuring young women through modeling, promising modeling jobs and that kind of scam.
I don't remember what Jean-Luc Brunel's business was, but it was something closely related to Les Waxner and what he was doing similarly.
But, you know, coincidentally, Jean-Luc Burnell was arrested, I believe, in France, and then he ended up, you know, coincidentally dying of hanging himself in a jail cell in France, I believe.
So, you know, it's kind of like, and you look at the fate of Adnan Khashoggi, you look at the fate of Robert Maxwell, you look at the fate of all these people.
They all end up dying from, you know, quote-unquote accidents or suicide.
And that's how The intelligence agency cleans things up, right?
It's like that final scene from Some of All Fears where all the people that were involved in the scheme end up just dying, either getting killed and bombed or strangled or stabbed, you know, and they just quietly just get rid of him, you know?
Yeah, that's why I would never go work for the CIA.
They just kill you at your baby.
Yeah, well, yeah, that's probably one good reason not to get involved there.
Anyway, stay tuned.
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You know, usually this would be like a tinfoil Friday type of segment where we get into some deep dive on considerations.
And that might very well end up being what we do here.
But until we figure it all out, I want to take a second and welcome onto the show our guest for the second hour.
This is Lynn Scott Hagerman.
And she's got quite a background.
I'll let her sort of explain it.
But we're going to be talking a little bit about, you know, survivors of child trafficking and the care that children need who are rescued and end up surviving that type of trauma.
So I think that, among other things, is what we're going to get into here today.
So without further ado, Nick, did I do a good job on that intro?
Or is that like...
Okay.
Good.
All right.
Well, let's just bring it on.
Lynn, welcome on the show.
It's good to have you on here with us.
Oh, God bless you for having me on.
It is just such an honor for me to be on your show today, truly.
Well, I really appreciate that, and we appreciate having you on here.
And I guess where we should start is, as we start with most guests, tell us a little bit about yourself, Lynn, and why you're here today with us on the show.
I appreciate that.
I'd like to start with who I am today, and then I'd like to go back in time and tell you what used to be.
So today, I'm an award-winning international human resource consultant.
I help small businesses to Fortune 100 companies.
I'm a podcaster, an independent lifeway distributor, a marathoner, a weightlifter, child of God, follower of the Lord Jesus Christ, friend of Holy Spirit, and God is absolutely good.
My background, let me dive into that.
I was in a child trafficking ring from the time I was born until I was five years old.
I was experimented on in an underground facility connected to an above-ground U.S. University medical center in conjunction with the government through their MKUltra program.
I also went to national satanic conventions and experienced satanic ritualistic abuse.
I saw God all the time and Jesus, angels, demons, went to heaven a lot, and I still do.
I've been in deep healing with the Lord and a marvelous trauma therapist for many, many years.
And in January of last year, God activated me for such a time as this.
I'm here to speak, to honor the many children who did not survive, and the little girl in me who survived and helped some of the other children survive.
I am a voice to the voiceless, and I'm on a mission from God to help the child and the trafficking survivors who are adults, as well as anyone else affected by trauma of any kind.
And God gave me a plan for years to do this and had me create a website last year called Q, the letter Q and the word grit, G-R-I-T.org.
Q stands for Quantum, because God's going after this problem big time.
And he named that website after that old John Wayne movie, True Grit, about that little girl that goes after the bad guys.
So that's where I am today, too.
Wow.
That's really impressive.
And I got to be honest, you know, listening to you kind of talk about what you've been able to do in spite of, you know, what you suffered at an early age, but also listening to you talk about your faith and how that motivates you still to this very moment, it seems, it's really inspiring to me.
And I'm thankful that you're being, you know, pushed in that direction by the Lord and have the strength to come out and come forward and talk about your story.
So, you know, I mean, obviously what you do now is very important.
And it is very important work to help these children and to be a voice for the voices that, you know, we can't hear anymore, particularly those who are not with us.
But I guess where we can begin with you and your story in particular is, you know, you kind of gave us a very interesting beginning where you talked about this abuse you suffered.
You said from the age of one to five, you were beneath the university.
Can you expand on that and tell us how, you know, how that all happened and how you came to be there, you know, the story of your parents perhaps and how you just got to that position?
Yes, so it actually started from birth.
And I'll start with my family.
On my mother's side, there's generational pedophilia.
And if any of your audiences are familiar with Kathy O'Brien, who gave testimony on MKUltra in Congress, maybe in the 70s.
Anyway, she's become a good friend of mine now.
And she'll talk about generational pedophilia and the effect that that has on people.
When my mother survived that, people either come out harming others or not.
And I don't know why it happens either way, but she was very mentally ill from that.
And so she is the one who sent me to the trafficking house in the neighborhood.
And it was a local and a regional trafficking house where I saw people from every walk of life, people in religious garbs, law enforcement, these were the customers, businessmen, businesswomen, military.
Simultaneously, I was taken to the U.S. University.
And I call it U.S. University Anywhere because this is happening around the country and worldwide, actually.
Can you forgive my interruption, but when is, what's the timeframe for this?
What years are we talking about?
So what I do is whenever I speak, there are three, before I start speaking, the Lord talked to me about things he wanted me to share, things he wanted me to hold off for a bit until at least he releases me.
So he said, answer any question I'm given, absolutely, except three.
One is the town I was raised in.
He said to call it anywhere USA, because that's true.
The name of the university, because it is in so many right now.
I have friends that have a list of up to 17.
And I also don't give the age range for the same reason because the government developed this program in the 1950s and it's still going on today.
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I'm your host, Craig James, and we're joined right now by our guest, Lynn Scott Hagerman.
And as we were going to break, I apologize for cutting you off there, but we have these hard commercial breaks we have to take.
And, you know, you were saying that there are three things that you've been kind of given discernment on whether or not to share by the Lord with regard to your, you know, story that you're telling us about the abuse you suffered as a child.
And we're trying to shine a light on that, I think, to give people, perhaps there are people out there listening who, you know, have gone through something and they've yet to come forward.
And maybe hearing your story can encourage them in a way to help them, you know, start to heal or start the healing process.
But it sounds like you don't want to talk about the town, the university that you were being trafficked through or the dates that were involved.
But other than that, it sounds like you're open to discussing the details beyond that.
So I guess the question I would have for you without getting into any specific details on those three issues would be, you know, you said that you were being trafficked at a trafficking house in this town, and this is from the age of basically birth until you were five years old.
And you said you saw a lot of powerful people come through.
Do you think that your family outwardly presented themselves as like, because we hear a lot of stories about it's the people you wouldn't expect.
You know, they present themselves outwardly as upstanding members, or were you in sort of a broken home to begin with and already in a tough situation?
That's an excellent question, Craig.
My family, they were the pillars of the community.
They were the regular Churchgoers, they were the active people in church that held leadership positions, small business owners.
They were the pillars of the community.
Oh, wow.
So, with that in mind, I mean, do you, and you said that you've shared a lot of similarity between what you experienced with Kathy O'Brien.
And I know that Kathy O'Brien had made some interesting claims about MKUltra and a project known as Project Monarch, which involved mind control that was sort of intermingled with the ritual abuse that she's described through her work.
And you're saying that what you went through was something similar to that?
Yes, it is the same thing.
It's called MK-Ultra.
So during World War II, the Hitler-Heimler research, they discovered how to do mind control.
And they called it MK-Ultra, which is mind control with the K. In Germany, controls with the K. When we lost World War II and our government imported all the Nazis into the United States, they dispersed them throughout every system in the United States, every system, including the medical system.
In the medical system, the National Security Archive in December of 2024 released documents about this project, MK-Ultra, Project Monarch.
There are about 150 mind control projects, so people can go and look at those documents, 1,200 new documents never before released.
When I saw them, I gave them to Kathy and I said, you know, are they regurgitating stuff that you've known?
Because she's read like 100,000 of these.
And she looked at them and she said, these are brand new documents.
So people can learn more there.
Wow.
So I guess, you know, without, you know, sparing us the graphic detail, obviously, you know, what do you remember?
You know, one to five years old, I don't imagine you remember much as an infant as much as you do in those later sort of three, perhaps to five years.
And tell us about, you know, what was the end goal?
Was this just a straight up trauma-based mind control?
You said there's an aspect of Satanism involved here.
What is the, I guess describe to us in general what you were experiencing.
So in general terms, MKUltra mind control, what it is at a very basic level, because they brought this, you know, what was done to me below ground was brought above ground during COVID because they knew how to do it from the experimentation.
So basically what mind control is, is mental and physical torture to where you believe that your life is in danger and that you could be killed.
And to make it all stop, the mental torture, the physical torture, you become willing to do absolutely anything to make it stop.
And there comes the mind control.
Again, it was brought above ground through COVID.
They terrorized everyone, said everyone was going to die if they didn't do certain behaviors dictated by the government.
And some people, you know, God has not given us a spirit of fear.
That's an actual demon.
I've seen it.
But power, love, and sound mind, that's Holy Spirit.
And unfortunately, people succumbed.
And I understand, you know, we're human, but people succumb to that.
That whole program is a perfect example of MKUltra.
So I guess I understand that there are certain details you probably can't share or haven't gotten to a point of wanting to share, but what other details have you shared publicly about this abuse and what happened?
And obviously we can't know where it took place, it seems, or when it took place, but what made you come forward and want to share these parts of your story?
Obviously, you said it was the spiritual aspect that you felt called by God to do it.
But beyond that, I mean, what do you hope to accomplish?
It sounds like what you're doing now is trying to help children who are in this position, and this QGrit organization sounds like it's working toward that end.
So is that the objective here is to bring awareness and then provide support?
And again, what other details can we have?
Because I'd like to understand better, and maybe our audience could benefit from understanding better what specifically you went through and what you can recall so that perhaps if they're experiencing something similar or they have experienced something similar, they can sort of identify with it and understand it better for themselves, maybe.
Those are all excellent questions.
So briefly today, through theqgrit.org, my mission is a six-phase plan that God's provided.
It's his plan.
It's his plan.
And initially, it's to share on as many podcasts as I'm able to to get the word out.
And then all of the aftercare is coming for the children.
And I'm beginning to help now as I can one by one.
Although there's a college in my town, I would love the day whenever it's bought to help the children.
But that's a bit down the road.
So let me go back in time to help your listeners.
There's a, whenever I became five years old and it stopped, God did something that I consider a gift.
He did a brain wipe.
He repressed 95% of my memories.
And he held my soul, my memories in the palm of his hand until I was able to get to where I felt safe and was able to process out the trauma.
And probably in 2011, I had the first, it might have been 2010, I had the first repressed memory.
So repressed memories are God's way of whenever we're in a safe place, physically, emotionally, support, the memories start coming back.
And I was in my house out of the blue.
I remembered Being harmed in my crib, and when the repressed memories come back, it all comes back.
You feel it physically.
My body will morph into wrist restraints or whatever, IV marks.
And the smells, the sights, the sounds, it's like a photographic memory with all your senses.
It comes in like a flood.
And it dropped me to my knees and just in a puddle.
And later that day, I was in my car talking to God about it.
And I said, you know, Papa, I could have lived a lifetime without knowing that.
Little did I know that was the first of a bazillion memories.
And I looked up, which is always a good thing to do when you're in trouble.
And there was a billboard that said, it's never too late.
So it's never too late.
And that was the first repressed memory.
And they've come like a flood ever since because it's important.
It's like cussing a womb is how God described it to me.
So it's important to remember so that that way we can process out the trauma, which is why I can talk to you about it calmly today.
And so I'll start sharing some more about the trauma while being very gracious with my terminology.
So you feel free to interrupt me whenever you need to for your commercials.
So whenever I was little and in the trafficking house, it was a child trafficking house.
And there were some children who were what I would call permanent regulars.
The vast majority were brought in and then they were moved out.
Whether they were kidnapped, brought across the border, sold by their family, lost, I don't know where they came from, probably a mix of all of that.
And the pedophiles, they paying customers all the time.
And if you can just imagine whenever those with a depraved spirit who are Luciferian satanic pedophiles have little ones that they are able to do anything their depraved mind is able to do.
That's exactly what they do.
And some of the, I saw many, many children who didn't make it because their little bodies and minds couldn't take the horrors of what was happening to them.
It's unfathomable, the heinous crimes.
And then, so that was ongoing at the house.
There was also adrenochrome harvesting.
And then at the University Medical Center, whenever I remember that, all the children were taken.
I went there on a regular basis.
They were taken first to the performing arts center.
And the children, anytime you go in a performing arts center, there's usually an entryway and people greeting.
So that's what it was like.
And the children were separated by those that had a home to go to and those that did not.
And I was in the group of children that had a home to go to.
And then we were sent backstage where we would all perform for the pedophiles in the audience.
And I would watch the, there's those folding tables that people pay money at at most performing events.
So if you imagine that, the pedophiles would come in.
I'd watch them pay money for me and all the other little ones.
And the little ones, the age never exceeded probably seven or eight at the oldest.
And so then all the children would perform.
It's a slave auction.
Slavery is very alive and well in the United States and worldwide, but it's the children now.
And so then the pedophiles would buy us.
At night, we'd be in a gym, and they would set up the children in beds, rows and rows and rows of us.
And the room would be dark, and the pedophiles would come through in groups, laughing and giggling, doing what pedophiles do.
And then next we'd be taken underground in the laboratories.
And in the laboratories, people will ask me, this isn't like a mining cave where it's rude and crude.
There are sophisticated facilities underground.
And for example, we all know the Pentagon, I think, has 19 stories below it.
It doesn't look like cave.
I've never been there, at least I don't think, but I haven't remembered yet.
But there are, it's like a whole community underground.
It looks identical to above ground, but flip it and it's just underground.
So there are an extensive medical facilities underground at the universities.
As a matter of fact, the military in, I think it was 2019, our military asked DARPA for access to the underground facilities under all the colleges so they could practice tunnel warfare.
And so in the tunnels...
Yes.
I want to make sure the audience understands, okay, the Cold War, during the Cold War, a lot of the universities built underground facilities just to have a safe place for the students, too.
So a lot of those were built and not used for a while.
And now what you're talking about, these underground facilities are everywhere.
It's very normal.
All right.
So let's pause there and pick it up when we come back.
It's an interesting and terrifying story, but it's important to understand that there's all kinds of evil in this world, and we have to be aware of it so we can protect ourselves and our children from it.
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I'm your host, Craig James, with Nick No and our guest, Lynn Scott Hagerman, who is walking us through some of these recovered memories that she's experienced as an adult who has survived child abuse in a very graphic and horrific way.
But this goes even beyond just your standard, seemingly typical case of child abuse.
It seems to tie into some other very disturbing programs that are perhaps associated or affiliated with government organizations that conduct sort of these sort of experimentations.
And you were telling us about having this experience that you're recalling and that there are recovered memories that are taking you to these underground facilities or one in particular, I guess, that's underneath a university where you are about to tell us about what your encounter was like.
And you're explaining that in underground, you're talking about lab facilities, actual, you know, bunker type facilities, not caves.
And just for everybody to get an idea of what we're talking about here, I mean, some people may say, well, this story, you know, this is what was happening then, but it's not related to what's going on now.
Well, I mean, we just had this story this morning.
Horrific, horrific.
10 children ages 2 through 15 rescued who were being held in a bunker and brutally tortured and assaulted for over three years.
And seven adults were arrested in this.
And this was a trafficking ring that was found in Alabama.
And that was just a couple days ago.
So, I mean, I got to be quite frank, Lynn, when I hear your story, I'm just, I'm, it's sad, it's disturbing, and it's horrific, but this stuff's still happening.
So thank you for bringing light to your story so that perhaps, again, if anybody's out there listening who's been through something similar, you know, this is perhaps going to help them in some way.
But please pick up where you left off about your experience.
And you were talking about being brought to this underground facility at a university.
Yes, so a couple things before I proceed.
If anyone in the audience has gone through something similar or think you may have, maybe you're getting a memory back, please go to that website.
I have a list of, a brief list of everything that helped me reach this point now where I'm thriving.
And if I can do it, you can do it.
And there's also a contact page.
So that's the first thing I'd like to share.
And before I proceed, I want to spend just one minute talking about repressed memories.
When the way the Lord has worked me through this, these things are as horrific for me to remember as it is for the audience to try to wrap their mind around.
So God bless everyone for hanging in with us.
This is what the Lord wants me to do now.
And when I started first remembering, I could not believe what I was remembering.
And God is so good.
He would give me one at a time where I could handle it.
So just one quick example.
I remembered at the trafficking house where they hung my cat on a clothesline to threaten me that if I didn't, it's all about compliance, to threaten me that if I didn't do what they said to, they would hang me too.
And then they hung me on a clothesline, but not in a way that would kill me, but I didn't know it because I was so tiny.
And when I remembered that, I could not believe it.
And afterward, I said, God, I said, surely there are not people that do this to children.
And 100% of the time, within 24 hours in the physical world, God will affirm my memories.
So when I went home, I was flipping through the television channels, and there was a cartoon of a cat hanging on a clothesline, being strung up on a clothesline.
And so this is the way that God confirms what I remember actually happened for my healing.
So before I go forward, I wanted to explain that.
So whenever I was, all the children were taken to the tunnels, and this is.
I'm going to say this as delicately as I can, but I sure hope children are listening.
So, the children who had homes to go to, which would have been me, through the MKUltra programming that they did, we were all placed in dental chairs.
And there was a doctor, a nurse, med tech.
They were all garbed in what would be surgical garb.
There were government employees there.
There was a flat-screen TV where other people were watching.
And I was hooked up to kind of like an EKG, but on the brain.
So I had wires and device on my brain, lots of wires coming out of me, and monitors.
So then they would do torture and experimentation, including drugs and electrocution and different things, and then watch the effect on my brain and my body.
I was a living experiment.
Again, this would be very similar to what they did in the concentration camps with the children.
And when the Nazis were brought over, they went into our medical systems.
The children who did not have homes to go to, there were rows and rows and rows and rows of little ones on metal surgical beds with wires coming out of them.
And they would do adrenochrome harvesting and then live organ harvesting before the children were gone.
Now, a couple things.
JFK has been recently posting how they've discovered above ground now, people who give permission to take their organs upon death.
Our medical system has been harvesting organs while people are still alive.
So this is not, you know, what they call my, my childhood, what they call conspiracy was my childhood.
You know, pardon my interruption, but you said JFK.
Did you mean RFK?
RFK.
I meant RFK.
Okay, sorry, RFK.
Just wanted to clarify.
Thank you.
I was like, I'm not sure JFK has been posting on social media lately, but.
Thank you so much for the correction.
So then, so, and one thing too that I want to share, because you have a faith-based audience, so I, to hopefully give a bit of peace on this topic, every child has an angel.
And the angels are still true to this day.
The angels that help the children, they're female angels and they're mothering angels.
They wear beautiful long gowns, beautiful wings, beautiful long hair, and each child had one in the trafficking house and in the lab.
So while they were harming the children, there were angels stationed everywhere.
And the little girl in me would call them the sh-sh angels.
And I'm not sure if that comes across on the radio, but it's like S-H-S-H-you know, like they're there, very soothing, like they're there.
And they would touch the children, keep their hands on them.
They have some sort of healing powers in their hands, and it would soothe the children.
And to this day, I'm fully convinced that these are the same angels that soothed Jesus in the Garden of Gethsemane, because we're told he could have called a legion.
I've seen the legion.
I've seen the warrior angels.
That's not who he called, but he was still soothed.
And I believe it's the same angels.
So as horrific as all of this is, our God is absolutely good.
And I saw him.
He was always there in the trafficking house, under the labs.
He's always there.
He was on his throne.
He has a book.
We hear about it in Revelation.
He writes in the book all the time.
You know, what amazed me was all these people didn't see him.
They didn't see this.
And they think what they're doing is something behind closed doors in the darkness that no one knows about.
But our God is right there helping the children.
And Jesus is there too.
And he would, all the time, he would bring change of, when things would get really bad, he would be there with clothing because unfortunately the children don't get to wear clothing much.
And that's who our Jesus is.
And he would bring clothing and take me up to heaven.
I went up to heaven a lot with him, especially during the worst of the worst.
And I still do to this day.
And so as, you know, awful as this topic is, I just hope people have some sort of peace or hope or reassurance knowing how good our God is and the way he and Jesus and all the angels are there to help.
Because I also saw each person had a demon and they were either inside them, attached to them, or both.
And of course, our battle is not against, you know, Ephesians 6.
It is not against flesh and blood.
These people are possessed or controlled.
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I'm your host, Craig James.
And I mean, it's our last segment here with our guest, Lynn Scott Hagerman.
And, you know, she's told us an incredible story.
And Lynn, I got to be quite frank, you know, as a believer myself and a man of strong faith, what you said, I felt God's presence in your words in what you described those children going through and the fact that they were not alone.
And I felt that very powerfully.
So I know that we are not alone.
And your story is so, it's horrific, but there is hope and there is inspiration in a lot of it because of the fact that you're here now and you're telling it.
And you even were able to see the hope in that darkness.
And that just speaks to my mind, to the power of God and to the power of Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit and his army of angels that can intervene in ways that we can't understand sometimes.
So I want to thank you for sharing that part of your story and your whole story in general.
But we have one more segment with you.
So I'd like to just sort of end on a note that Nick wanted to bring up because Nick, you haven't been able to really participate as much as you probably would want into this conversation.
And you were wanting to play this clip here.
Is that what you wanted to get up?
It's pretty short, Stephen.
Yeah, let's listen to Stephen Miller and then we'll talk about this for a minute.
Yeah, so here's another one for you, Sean.
On top of all of that, we now believe the true number of missing children that Joe Biden traffic into the country, the Democrats trafficking into the country, is 450,000.
Not 320,000, 450.
The Democrats have committed crimes for which they can never be forgiven, Sean.
And Donald Trump is cleaning it up.
Donald Trump is cleaning it up right now.
Let me say it again.
Stephen, they have blood on their hands.
They'll have more blood on their hands.
Every murder, every rape, every violent crime.
And if there's ever one of these known terrorists, we don't know where they are, that they let into this country unvetted, if there's an attack on our homeland, they'll have a lot more blood on their hands.
I hope and pray.
They will show.
I don't think I am.
So that clip, I think it goes to our point earlier was that, you know, people, a lot of people will say this stuff's not happening or this did.
It may have happened before, but it's not happening now.
450,000 children, I mean, if you even take a very small percentage of that number and, you know, and they get wrapped up in anything similar to what we've heard here described by Lynn, I mean, it's unacceptable, and we have to shine a light on it and make sure that we prevent it from happening.
But, Nick, please give your thought there, and then we'll get our final thought from Lynn.
Well, you know, this stuff's been going on for a long time, and what's happened to Lynn is, unfortunately, more common than we think.
I think ultimately, this is something Lynn and I talked about prior to the show, is I think the best way to fix the, well, at least dampen the problem or slow it down and at least hopefully stop it someday, is to take away a diplomatic immunity.
A lot of this stuff is done with diplomatic immunity so that the people, even if they're caught in what they're doing, they don't go to jail.
They have immunity.
These people, this needs to be changed.
You cannot have diplomatic immunity for drug trafficking or human trafficking, period.
It doesn't matter if it's Saudi Arabia.
It doesn't matter if it's a United States.
It doesn't matter what country it is.
It needs to stop now.
Well, and not to mention the fact that, you know, when she was talking about that trafficking house, you know, you're talking about clergy members and cops.
And these aren't just people from, these are people that, you know, in a lot of cases are our neighbors.
But, Lynn, we're pretty much out of time.
We've got about two minutes left.
So leave us with whatever final thought and feel free to give more information about your organization, QGrit, and where people can reach you and all of that.
And thank you again for coming on.
God bless you for having me.
So I encourage everyone to go to Q, the letter Q, and then the word GRIT, G-R-I-T.org.
And in there, you will find all kinds of tips on how to recognize if you see a child who's being harmed or trafficked, what to do or not do, and if you recognize a child you love is being harmed.
I give you steps about what to do and what to not do.
And for those who just want to help in some way, I have lots and lots of ways that people can help because we are going to stop this thing together.
We the people.
We don't need the systems.
We the people, we can lock arms and we can go forward together, helping each other heart to heart, soul to soul, opening our eyes in our communities with the power of God.
We have the power of God Almighty Himself.
Greater is He that's in us than He who's in the world.
We have power, dominion, and authority over this evil.
Ephesians 6, we can claim the blood of Jesus, the most powerful things in the universe, the blood of Jesus in the name of Jesus.
So we the people can do this.
I have lots and lots of action steps on my website for people to help moving forward.
Thank you so much.
I appreciate that thoroughly.
Thank you for joining us.
One more question, really quick.
We've got about a minute.
Do you know, and this was one question I wanted to ask but didn't get to ask earlier.
Do you know why it stopped at the age of five?
Have you been given discernment or understanding of that?
It was very simple.
My parents got divorced.
My mom moved us to where my grandmother was living, which was much further away.
And so all of the places we were connected to were too far away.
Now, since then, I'm confident that I've been monitored, but left alone because of the power of the Lord Jesus Christ.
Amen.
Well, thank you, Lynn, for joining us.
Everybody, go check out her website, qgrit.com, if I'm saying that right.
.org.
Excuse me.
QGRIT.org.
Thanks for joining us, Lynn, and we're going to keep praying for you and all those out there who are going through anything similar.
There's some great tools, it sounds like, at that website where you can connect with that information and just let's all be a force against this, you know, both in the world that we can affect and in the spiritual world that we can affect through our prayer and our faith.
Let's all stand against it, like Lynn said, lock arms and at least have agreement that this is an evil that we can stop if we work hard enough and the Lord wills it, we can do it.
So anyway, everybody stay tuned.
Thank you, Lynn.
Sad topic, but it's really powerful to talk about the power of God.
So we're going to take a quick break and come back.
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I'm your host, Craig James.
It's our final segment, and that was a great guest we had.
By the way, if you guys are, you know, I always leave you guys with the hope and encouragement through scripture.
We'll get Nick's final thought.
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But Nick, final thought real quick, and then we'll do our scripture reading.
Final thought is that it's terrible that stuff's going on.
It's terrible.
And, you know, Craig and I, we talked before today the show, and I wanted everybody to know that I've been in real estate for a long time, doing real estate.
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And also, don't forget, in the end, God wins, everybody.
And we'll see you next week.
Amen.
And thank you for that endorsement, Nick.
That's really, that's really kind of you.
But we're going to leave you guys with some scripture.
And today, we're finishing 1 John chapter 3, the last few verses.
It says, Dear friends, if our conscience doesn't condemn us, we have confidence before God and Can receive whatever we ask from him because we keep his commands and do what is pleasing in his sight.
Now, this is his command that we believe in the name of his Son, Jesus Christ, and love one another as he commanded us.
The one who keeps his commands remains in him and he in him.
And the way we know that he remains in us is from the spirit he has given us.
And basically what that verse is saying is that if we live a life that is righteously pointed toward God, we give God all the glory, we follow his commands as best we can, and we get up every day with the intention of working hard for God and to honor God with our lives and have that faith in Jesus Christ,
that that will become clear in the life that we lead, and that that will become clear and apparent to us in our lives that God is with us.
So that's where I'll leave that.
But finally, somebody did text in and said this simple.
They said, if he was there, why did he let it continue?
And I think that's talking about Lynn's story.
And I want to address that too in this final segment.
And this is how I would address it.
God has a plan that we cannot see.
And there are things that happen in this world that for our perception may seem like the most horrible and horrific and heinous things.
But remember that our eternal salvation is always at hand.
So when these terrible things do happen, we know where we end up.
And I know in my heart where if those children did lose their lives, that they ended up with Jesus in heaven in a place that's so much better than this world.
But again, God has a plan, and perhaps a part of his plan was having Lynn be able to talk about it all these years later.
But that's where we'll leave it.
Thanks for listening.
Thanks to Nick.
Thanks to Lynn.
Thanks to textures.
Thanks to the callers.
All of you guys will be back on Monday to do it all over again.
God willing.
Until then, I'm your host, Craig James with Nick.
No.
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