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	Welcome to another Justin Forum Talk Radio show.
	I'm your host, Craig James.
	Hope you guys are having a wonderful day.
	A lot to cover here.
	And I just got to be quite honest at this point.
	I mean, it feels like I've gotten into a time machine and awakened in the year 2017.
	And I'll tell you why here in just a minute.
	But I mean, that's what it feels like right now.
	That's kind of the way that the news is reading today.
	As I said, it feels like we've gone back in time because what are the big headlines of today?
	We have one of the biggest headlines is breaking news that Obama and the intelligence community and the law enforcement agencies and the DOJ conspired to frame Trump as a Russian agent.
	And also, Hillary Clinton's private emails are apparently were hacked.
	I mean, I'm starting to think that they are recycling some of these news stories to keep our attention averted or diverted away from something else because that's the only thing that makes sense at this point.
	You know, obviously the war in Ukraine is still ongoing.
	The temporary ceasefire between Iran and Israel is holding, but just by a thread.
	And there are other things happening.
	You know, the Epstein clientless blunder, which seems to be continuing to haunt some of the officials.
	News story out about that, actually.
	Pam Bondi announcing that she's going to make a visit to see Ghislaine Ghislaine Ghillane Maxwell in her prison cell, I guess, to do some kind of interview there.
	Hmm, that's interesting.
	But, oh, and by the way, Hunter Biden, he's back in the news.
	So I do feel like we've stepped into a time machine here of sorts, especially how we got to this point.
	It's just a little strange.
	I mean, you know, truth be told, of course, myself and many others want to have justice for all of these things that have occurred.
	Clearly, there is an obvious desire for that.
	But I mean, I don't know.
	It feels so strange to be covering these stories again.
	And is it the definition of insanity to have a different expectation for the result?
	Right?
	Am I crazy to believe that we may actually get actual indictments and people may actually face consequences?
	Am I a fool to believe that?
	I mean, fool me once, shame on you.
	Fool me twice.
	As George Bush would say, the point is, I'm not going to get fooled again.
	So is this just a very well orchestrated distraction away from things that are failing in our own, in the new Trump administration, which, you know, look, I'm going to give Trump credit where it's due.
	He's done a lot of great stuff, you know, especially with immigration.
	I'm really, I'm happy about that, although I think it should be more expansive, but we'll give it time since the funding just came through.
	ICE has gotten, you know, whatever $40 billion or whatever the budget, you know, allocation is.
	So we'll give time for that to sort of continue to grow.
	And, you know, I mean, the big, beautiful bill was good and bad.
	You know, a lot of bad stuff with regard to certain allowances and liberal funded causes and other taxes going to other things that weren't able to get removed.
	But, you know, there are some tax cuts in there that are good.
	There's some positive stuff in there.
	Jerome Powell, you know, still too late Powell, not lowering interest rates, keeping the American economy locked up, you know.
	But Trump's done well with the tariffs, I guess, to a degree.
	I think they're doing net positive.
	So it's like a mixed bag.
	But of course, again, you know, some of these promises that were made on the campaign trail obviously fell short.
	As I recall, I heard many times being told that on day one, the Ukraine-Russia war would be over.
	And here we are in day, you know, 180 or so, 190, 200, and still no resolution there.
	So it's kind of a mixed bag, but to one degree, I'm happy and glad that the Justice Department is actually picking back up on these cases that were, you know, sort of summarily forgotten by the people in control of the last few years.
	But simultaneously, I'm kind of like, as I said before, I'm starting to really worry that if I start having an expectation that is the same as what I had before, is that the dev, am I crazy?
	You know?
	So what are the headlines?
	Well, Obama's squarely in the Russiergate crosshairs again, which I recall in 2017, 18 making a number of videos and reports about this very thing and saying almost exactly the thing I'm hearing on Fox News now once again, which is that Obama's going down.
	We got him, boys.
	We got him.
	And look, I'm not trying to be pessimistic.
	I'm actually quite optimistic, believe it or not, as far as my outlook on the world goes.
	But I'm realistic as well, and I'm pragmatic to a large degree in understanding how these things work.
	And, you know, everybody's saying Obama's got executive privilege and immunity that he can assert.
	And, you know, we'll see how that all plays out.
	But when I saw this morning that Hillary Clinton's emails are back in the news, I was like, really?
	I mean, I had kind of given up on hoping for, I mean, not given up on hope, but I had given up on the expectation that there would be some sort of, you know, retribution.
	Not retribution necessarily, but justice for what had been done there.
	Right.
	And now I see people say, like, Seth Rich is back in the news this morning.
	And I'm like, what is happening here?
	How are we going backwards?
	And of course, again, I'm not saying I don't want justice for all this.
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	I'm just saying that it does feel a bit odd to wake up this morning and see these headlines and think, man, it's been what?
	Eight years?
	And here we are, nine years, ten years in some cases.
	And we're back where we started.
	Maybe it'll be different this time.
	Here's the hoping: we're going to take a break.
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	Welcome back to us Forum Talk Radio.
	I'm your host, Craig James.
	Yeah, that's my name.
	I forgot for a second.
	And I want to play some clips here because I think it's important to understand sort of where everything's sort of coming from.
	There was a set of remarks that was delivered by President Trump, which I think give you a very good insight into what's happening here.
	These remarks were made a couple months ago, it seems, by President Trump, and it seems to be playing itself out now.
	Okay, so let's watch this, or let's listen to this clip, and let's kind of see where we're at.
	This is a remark given by Trump at the NRCC dinner from April of 2025, and we'll compare it to what is happening right now.
	Let's listen.
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	Did you cut off...
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	No, we need people that are going to love our country.
	So that was just a portion of the remarks made by Trump.
	But I mean, if you think about it, what Trump said at the beginning of that set of remarks there was talking about treason.
	And I think he obviously was intending to mean it beyond just the implication of the border invasion, right?
	Especially given what we've seen now.
	And I'll stand by this.
	You know, I've gotten some, you know, pushback from certain people who have certain beliefs that, you know, most people, if you have a predisposition to not like Trump or trust Trump initially, you know, from the get-go, then I understand it's going to be difficult to convince you of this because in your mind,
	you know, I don't want to say that they are ideological purists necessarily, but they are definitely the kind of people who have a very I don't want to even say narrow, but a very specific worldview that they subscribe to and they see things a certain way.
	And, you know, if somebody thinks that are right, it's hard to convince them otherwise usually.
	So we'll leave room for that to be what it is.
	But if you're not of the opinion that, you know, if you don't have the expectation that there are perfect politicians, right, because I've often heard people say, well, you know, I would like this person to be the president, and then they will be the one to do it.
	And you're like, in my mind, my first thought when I hear it is always, you know, what happens when that person does something you don't like?
	Do you know what I mean?
	What would you do in that scenario?
	Would you automatically assume that they are compromised?
	Would you just chalk it up to a difference of opinion?
	Or would you have some other, you know, way of explaining it?
	Perhaps, you know, something, some other explanation.
	I don't know.
	And that's where I kind of come from on all, because when I voted for Trump three times in a row, I wasn't doing it necessarily because I agree with Trump on everything that he ran on, every platform.
	And I did not do it because I believe that he was the perfect candidate who embodied everything exactly the same as I believe.
	Matter of fact, there are many things he believes that I don't believe in, like restrictions on free speech or the implementation of some sort of window for abortion to take place.
	So those are things I disagree with.
	However, my understanding of politics made me see clearly that by voting for Trump, I'm voting for the fact that I agree with him on the majority of issues that he represents publicly, at least, because that's all I can know.
	I can't know what his inward private thought is on anything, really.
	And that in aggregate, more good would come out of him being our leader than bad as compared to the alternative, which was Kamal Harris.
	And, you know, third parties, look, I get it.
	A lot of people will vote third party as some sort of protest of the whole system or with the true belief that there is a candidate that can overcome the sort of two-party system.
	And maybe there will be that in the future.
	I bet that that is something that could happen.
	But at this point, that doesn't seem very likely, at least in the near term.
	And so that's where the logic lies.
	So with all that being said, it would be hard to convince somebody who's sort of of that specific belief, framework, or whatever, that Trump is not some sort of duplicitous, you know, evil villain working both sides and playing for the other team.
	Right?
	And so when I come out and say there's an explanation that makes sense here, I'm only saying it because there are only so many scenarios that could play out from this set of circumstances.
	And as I've said before, I think if you look at the aggregate of it all, right, let's presume some things to make arguments that I think are cogent and sound.
	Let's presume Jeffrey Epstein's an intelligence asset who's worked with the CIA and Mossad and whoever else to frame very rich elites.
	Would it not stand to reason that, and again, this is not Trump apologism and this is not mental gymnastics.
	This is just simple logic.
	Would it not stand to reason that whether you're guilty or not, there is guilt by association and that could have been a part of the whole plan and that may be a part of all plans that are conducted by these intelligence sort of honeypot blackmail operations, right?
	Think of it this way.
	There's always contingencies.
	So if plan A is to use an asset to have an island to, you know, to not only launder money through in his banking scheme, but also to lure politicians, celebrities, and other high-profile individuals to be blackmailed in this way, right?
	If that's plan A, you think they don't have a plan B?
	Like, you don't think that as a part of the planning meeting for that operation, they owe, well, they don't sit there and say, well, what if he gets caught or exposed?
	How do we, what is that, see, because that's where I always, I've kind of, I've thought that this needs, this goes without saying, but I think it does bear looking at and talking about because it is something that maybe some people don't think about.
	That imagine, again, they're planning this operation, and the operation is we're going to have a first we're going to use him for money laundering and you know washing money for our shell companies and NGOs that work with USAID and that fund our you know coups and other things in foreign nations.
	And then, oh, wow, this guy's great.
	So maybe we should use him as an asset for this blackmail operation, too, because he's now very wealthy and he's ingratiated himself or sort of embedded himself within the cultural elite.
	So he knows all these people.
	He's rubbing shoulders with them.
	So let's have him do this because then we can use that for exploitation.
	You don't think that they planned like, okay, so this is what we do if he gets caught.
	This is what we do if he turns on us.
	This is what we do if he gets exposed publicly and they figure out what we're doing.
	It's the same thing.
	They have built-in layers of plausible deniability.
	So the point I'm trying to make is, you don't think one of those contingencies would be, well, we'll have the blackmail on those who participated on this, so we'll control them.
	And then if his pub, if this becomes public knowledge, right, that he, obviously plausible deniability, it was all him.
	Jeffrey Epsey was working alone, if you believe the media.
	So he's running this blackmail operation for who knows what reason, just because it was like a fun pastime, apparently.
	No connection to the intelligence community, if you ask most fake news mainstream reporters.
	But I mean, so could not, or would it not stand to reason that then they would say, okay, well, another way we can maintain cover and plausible liability is to threaten anybody who tries to expose this with this guilt by association tactic, which can also be, you know, a simple frame job.
	Manufacture some evidence that makes it appear as though somebody is engaged in untoward things with this person, then use that as a threat against them to say, if you decide to pursue this further, we will make sure that as you uncover the truth about this, you will be wrapped up in it as well.
	And some people would say, hey, it's as simple as this, Craig.
	Quite simply, you're making this more complicated than it has to be.
	Because the simple answer is that Trump is being blackmailed in this operation, that he is a part of this blackmail pickup.
	And that that's why he's pulling away from it.
	Listen, I understand that, and I think that's plausible too.
	Perhaps even slightly more likely.
	But just because something is likely doesn't mean it's true.
	So this is a very elongated way of saying that, as I made the reference to earlier, this operation to go after Comey and Brennan and the rest of Obama could be Trump saying, fine, you want to pull the gloves off, let's pull the gloves off.
	You're going to try to, if you spent the last four years in charge of the FBI and the DOJ and you use that time to put things inside of the Epstein case that would implicate me, then we'll just go ahead and do what nobody wanted to do, which I guess is go after Obama.
	I mean, and nobody being nobody in the national security apparatus.
	So, I don't know.
	It's all getting very convoluted.
	So, forgive me.
	But we'll try to cover this story.
	Stay tuned.
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	And, you know, I do understand this is starting to feel like, you know, inception.
	And some people will, you know, say that this is, you know, I'm doing mental gymnastics and this is, you know, I've been, somebody said it was a Trump apologism or apologist for Trump.
	And it couldn't be anything further from it.
	I think what it is, and again, this is like inception level stuff, to be honest with you, when you have to look at it in the aggregate.
	But listen, I've been around enough of these stories for the last decade or so and talked to a lot of these guys that do these things to a degree, one degree or another, you know, people in intelligence, et cetera, et cetera.
	And I've kind of figured out that it's all intentionally convoluted.
	They muddy the waters intentionally and they make it look, I mean, because this is what it means to have the built-in plausible deniability.
	And remember, the intelligence agencies will not get involved in operations that don't have that built-in plausible deniability.
	And the more complex the operation, the more complex the built-in plausible deniability will be, and the more watertight it will seem.
	Because if you make things seem implausible, then it makes it less likely to be attributable to your organization.
	And that's the whole goal, right?
	There is no such thing as no paper trail.
	But if you can shred the paper and throw it up in the wind into a thousand pieces, that would be the paper trail.
	You know, it would take a very long time to put all those pieces together to figure out what actually was happening.
	So that's why to some it may seem as though this is sort of a convoluted mental gymnastic, you know, exercise.
	It's because you have to think deep, long, and hard about all this.
	And remember, I hate to say it, but the easier it is for us to put together, the less likely it is to be true.
	Let me say that again.
	The easier it is for you and I to put these, to connect these dots, to put the puzzle together, the less likely it is to be true.
	And you say, well, what does that mean?
	Well, it means exactly what I'm trying to get the point across of, which is that oftentimes they want us to put things together.
	That's called narrative building.
	That's how they frame the narrative so that they can sell it to the public.
	Oh, you got us.
	You figured us out.
	Epsy and Trump.
	Oh, man.
	Yep.
	There you go.
	They're together.
	Meanwhile, you know, the most telling thing is I don't hear a peep about any of the Democrat donors that I don't hear a peep about Reed Hoffman.
	I don't hear a peep about Bill Gates.
	I don't hear a peep about Bill Clinton.
	I don't, I don't, you know, and you're thinking to yourself, okay, well, I've learned that the fake news is always misdirecting and they're always trying to frame the narrative that they want us to believe.
	Picking and choosing.
	And again, this is where it gets into like inception level stuff because it's like, if you've ever seen the movie Inception, it's a Christopher Nolan film.
	It's like, it's about perceived reality versus, you know, it's basically about perception and it's about dreams and it's about things that can be changed and how you can misdirect people in their dreams.
	It's a very strange movie.
	But at the end of the day, what it is about is perception and how there are layers of depth to perception that can be manipulated in this film to get you to a point where you don't know what's real and what's false.
	Maybe that's a terrible explanation of the film inception, but it's, I think, a fairly good explanation of the concept of the plot.
	And that's what intelligence is, oftentimes.
	Intelligence operations, they depend on blurring the lines of perception between false, you know, between what's real and what's false and fake.
	And it's all about deception and perhaps I'm just like completely out of it today.
	Because even it's confusing me as I talk about it.
	And that's the point.
	It is supposed to be confusing.
	It is supposed to keep you off kilter.
	It is supposed to keep you incapable of perceiving truth from fiction.
	And in that, the majority of what we see publicly in the news, for instance, is a part of that massive deception.
	So that's what makes it so difficult to see the truth.
	Because you have to parse through all that and then start analyzing what is actually going on.
	And this is a very like meta sort of existential thought, but it's intentionally made to get you to a point where you give up.
	You stop trying to figure it out because it is too impossible to understand.
	Again, because people's motivations are hidden, the truth of events are hidden.
	And the entire objective of certain operations is complete.
	It could be that an operation can have an intent that is completely used as a cover for another intent.
	If that makes sense.
	Like when they plan an operation, they could say, well, we're going to make this operation so it appears as though the intent is to do this, but reality, we're trying to do this.
	I know, this is fun.
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	I'm your host, Craig James.
	And I know what some of you are thinking out there after the first half of this show.
	And I have a clip that kind of summarizes it.
	Let's listen.
	Mr. Madison, what you just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard.
	At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought.
	Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it.
	I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
	Okay, a simple wrong would have done just fine, but you remain one.
	Yeah, see, I can make fun of myself.
	I get it, because that's what it feels like when you try to explain an intelligence operation to people.
	And it's like it's just an insane, rambling, incoherent response.
	And again, I guess my point is that that's what they want.
	That is the point of how these operations are set up and how they are planned and how the contingencies are planned and how it all will look to somebody who either A isn't in sort of the sphere of people or around the kind of people or have experience with the kind of people and organizations that do this sort of stuff.
	Or B, similarly, I guess, to just the average person.
	So yeah, I don't know.
	I thought that was kind of funny because I was like thinking about it over the break.
	I'm like, yeah, that's basically what it sounds like to somebody who's not really paying attention.
	It's just like, what are we doing here?
	How does any of this particularly thing?
	How does any of this particular thing make sense?
	And I will put it this way that I personally have looked at a lot of these things and I'm just trying to give you the full breakdown of it all as best I can.
	So back to the story at hand, right?
	So I guess, again, it's Groundhog Day or it's back to the future.
	We've awakened in a time warp and it's 2017 and the top headlines of the day are Hillary Clinton's emails and Trump-Russia collusion hoax.
	Now, it's a little bit, you know, sad, but here we are.
	And I want to keep drilling down into the point of a lot of this, which is that, for example, there was a segment over on Fox News, which, you know, every now and then they get stuff correct, it seems.
	But this kind of explains how Obama's playing in all this.
	Matt Taibbi explains, let's listen.
	And James Comey were the focus of criminal investigations that have been opened by the Justice Department.
	But these new documents that were released by Tulsi Gabbard and the Director of National Intelligence make it clear that the investigation is now aimed at the Obama White House and in particular at Barack Obama because of decisions that were made in early December of 2016 to suppress a presidential daily briefing and go ahead and order a new intelligence community assessment that ultimately would have much more aggressive conclusions about Trump and Russia.
	So a lot of this December of 2016 into January of 2017, I'm assuming also.
	You know, but Trump's people were in there for four years.
	And the current CIA director had his job for eight months at the time.
	I just, did his people fail him?
	Why wasn't there more urgency on this and Trump 1.0 as there is now?
	Yeah, that's a complaint I heard a lot over the weekend from people who have been following this and even from former officials who are close to Trump.
	One of them said to me, a former high-ranking Trump official said there was, quote, so much corruption in the last Trump presidency that this shouldn't have been overlooked, that these documents should have come out, absolutely.
	But the overall sense I get is that everyone's happy that they finally are coming out and they're looking forward to what is likely to come out this week.
	Okay, another question about Russia.
	Is the allegation they were trying to influence our election or is the allegation that they actually changed votes?
	I think we need to be clear on that.
	What can we say?
	So it's both.
	The Democrats are making a lot of hay over this apples and oranges issue that there was never any question that they didn't actually change vote tallies, but they did influence the election.
	Actually, there was some question about whether they had the ability to influence the election.
	There were quotes earlier from that year with the FBI saying they didn't have any evidence that they had done so and they were uncomfortable making that statement.
	There were also quotes saying that they lacked evidence that Russia had the ability to impact the outcome of the election.
	So all of this would have been passed on to somebody like Michael Flynn because presidents elect are entitled to receive the presidential daily briefing.
	That's why this is important.
	It's not so much what the PDB did say.
	It's what it didn't say.
	It didn't say that there was a sweeping conspiracy to help Trump.
	And if they had that, it would have been a very different political picture going forward.
	Okay, it looks like it's the DOJs calling next, and we'll see what they do.
	Matt, thanks for coming on.
	Matt Taibi, good to be okay.
	So, wait, did he just say that are we still litigating whether or not Russia was involved in the 2016 election?
	Hold on.
	At this rate, I think it will be the year 2033 when we finally Get around to uncovering what happened in the 2020 election.
	So we have that to look forward to.
	Just another eight years, guys.
	This is insane.
	The fact that we're still litigating the 2016 election is just beyond me.
	It's baffling.
	Fox News, they're only 10 years behind.
	All right, stay tuned.
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	Watch that sound everybody look what's going down Welcome back just forum talk radio.
	I'm your host, Craig James.
	And, I mean, look, you can say whatever you want about anything, I guess.
	But what I believe seems the case is that they left some sort of booby traps, if you will, in the DOJ.
	One of them seems to be the Epstein investigation.
	They, I believe, and you can disagree with me, that's fine.
	I encourage it if you think I'm wrong.
	But I think they left some, you know, sort of traps.
	And one of the traps was the Epstein file.
	And that's what Trump came out and said, this is another Russia hoax, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, because he believes that.
	Okay, now, you can say what you want and say, oh, Trump's guilty or, you know, whatever.
	That's fine.
	But it does seem as though, at least from what we're being told, that's what we can read into that and, you know, take it with a grain of salt, obviously.
	But now we're going back to Obama and the Russia hoax and all of this is coming out.
	So it's interesting to see it all play out.
	Here's Mike Flynn talking about the presidential daily briefing and other things, the overall office meeting that he had in 2016.
	And let's listen to this.
	Obama clearly had his hand directly involved in this.
	And I think that this new revelation of the 8th December 2016 Oval Office meeting, to me, is very clear that that happened.
	You know, for Kennedy, Kennedy, of course, JFK, was replaced by Johnson, who hated Kennedy, and he wanted the job.
	So nothing really happened.
	There was the commission after Kennedy.
	It ended up in nothing.
	And what did we learn?
	We learned it, you know, because Trump released the files, we learned that the CIA was directly involved in the assassination of a president, Nixon.
	The person who ended up replacing Nixon was...
	was Gerald Ford where is where did Gerald Ford come out of the U.S. Senate and what did Gerald Ford sit on he sat on the commission that investigated the JFK assassination I mean it's just unbelievable what happened back then that we're elements of our government were basically conducting subversive activities and we now know it right we now know it only because President Donald J. Trump had the guts to run again and as much abuse as he took and we all know this and
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	You know, we're very much in the midst of trying to get to the bottom of all this.
	And I'll tell you what's interesting to me, you know, is, of course, we're here sort of going through Russia Gate again.
	We're going through the Obama, what they did.
	Now, granted, it's new information that perhaps is going to, you know, lead to some sort of, you know, culpability for these people for what they did, some sort of justice for us against these people who wronged us so egregiously.
	But I'm not going to hold my breath, of course, and I'm going to be cautiously skeptical, particularly given the past and the track record of the agencies involved, right?
	DOG, FBI.
	I'm thankful that they have good people working there now, but this is still a machine that works a certain way that I'm not so certain is inclined to change as quickly as we may hope it will, and I hope it does.
	You know, I hope I'm wrong.
	I truly do.
	I hope that my skepticism is proven invalid.
	But that being said, I do find a slight bit of irony to the same people who are now coming out and saying that nobody ever said the Russians hacked the election, of course.
	You know, that's going to be their news storyline.
	And then you just play them this sort of compilation from over the years.
	Let's listen.
	Russia hacking the election to elect Trump.
	What is the end of our democracy?
	Votes were definitely affected.
	Russia hacked the election to tilt it to Mr. Trump.
	The Russians definitively hacked the election.
	Russia did hack the election.
	No doubt.
	The Russians hacked the election.
	Yes, Russia hacked the election.
	In fact, Russia hacked the election.
	President-elect Donald Trump still not sounding convinced that Russia hacked the election.
	The president does not want to come to terms with the fact that the Russians hacked the election.
	President Trump says he still wonders if, if the Russians hacked the election.
	If you can get him to accept that Russia hacked the election, see if you can get him to accept who won the Civil War.
	If he admits it, it casts a shadow on his victory over Hillary Clinton.
	Russia hacked the election.
	Russia hacked the election.
	Let's be clear.
	Russia hacked the election.
	Definitively, Russia hacked the election, and Russia is doing it again now.
	Election-related cyber hacking.
	Cyber hacking of U.S. elections.
	Cyber hacking of the election.
	Russia was cyber hacking the election.
	Russia was cyber hacking the election.
	The CIA, the FBI, NSA.
	All of these intelligence organizations.
	17 intelligence agencies all conclude that Russia hacked the election.
	If we find out that Donald Trump just theoretically was colluding with Russia while they were hacking the election, that is completely impeachable.
	This dossier alleged a conspiracy between the Trump campaign and the Russian effort to hack the election.
	The director of national intelligence, the head of the national security agency, the head of the FBI, all of these intelligence experts saying Russia hacked the election.
	The FBI, the CIA, the NSA, the former director of national intelligence, James Clapper, I mean, they've all said this.
	So to believe that that's wrong, you have to believe they're all involved in an elaborate conspiracy to get Donald Trump, which seems a little far-fetched to me.
	Yeah, that'd be a little far-fetched.
	Except it's true.
	But it's completely, you know, to believe that they're all involved in a grand conspiracy of sorts to lie to us, so that we would go on our fake news programs and say things like definitively.
	And to be clear, the Russians hacked the election.
	It's like, it's almost like everything they told us was a lie.
	Man, I can't believe the intelligence community was lying to us.
	What are we going to do?
	You know, it's, and I don't know what sort of protection they have in the intelligence community because if you think about it, they do have like a certain layer of what I guess would be either equal to or comparable to like qualified immunity.
	You know what I mean?
	Where you're actually allowed to lie to the public if it's for, you know, certain endeavors.
	I think that's part of the many people point to what Obama did.
	I think it's the repeal of the Smith-Munt Act or a portion of it.
	But regardless, the idea that we are In this position that now they're coming out and basically, Tulsi Gabbard gave definitive.
	I love it.
	Let's use their vernacular.
	Definitive proof that our intelligence agencies lied to the public to deceive, to deceive us so that they could launch a coup against the sitting president.
	Well, that seems strange, wouldn't you say?
	But it's all a joke anyway.
	You know, it's a little bit, it just feels a little like too little too late.
	I mean, I'm glad if it does lead to something, it's great.
	You know, hurrah, great, woo-hoo.
	I would say this, there are people out there, right, who have the complete misconception that Russia is still somehow involved in all of this because they were lied to so flagrantly.
	And we're at a point now where some of those people are starting to come around, but even then, they don't have any reason.
	I mean, it's either the cognitive dissonance that's keeping them from admitting it, or they just have a complete disdain for Trump, so they don't care what the truth is.
	Either way, those people are a part of.
	They're victims to a large degree because they've been lied to.
	We're all victims to a degree.
	And there has to be retribution or justice, I should say, more accurately.
	But we'll see.
	Stay tuned.
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	By the way, we have a lot more to cover.
	I do want to keep going.
	You know, I just thought that was funny to sort of give the clip that gives the full context to the lies that were being told, particularly during the whole Russia, you know, fever dream that we all lived in from 2016 through 2020 and beyond, it seems for some still.
	So if you think about it in those terms, everything they told us was, of course, a lie.
	And that for many, I think, is sort of the juxtaposition we find ourselves in, where there is an element of hesitation in wanting To believe that the organizations and institutions that have lied to us and betrayed us so flagrantly,
	egregiously, whatever you want to say, that those institutions are somehow capable of fixing themselves and doing the right thing that they should have done a long time ago.
	So I just, for whatever it's worth, have my doubts, let's say, about all of it.
	But at the end of the day, I am going to, you know, hold out hope that ultimately good will prevail in one form or fashion.
	At some point, these people are going to get what's coming to them, whether it's in this life or the next.
	And I do believe that.
	I do believe that.
	So we'll see how that all plays out.
	But let's take a second and listen to another clip.
	This is General Flynn with Benny Johnson talking about a lot of things here.
	Let's listen.
	What do you see happening next?
	Yeah, well, a couple of things.
	And I have made this recommendation that I think that all of these people that are involved, starting with Obama on down, they all ought to have their passports revoked.
	And people need to be checking private airplanes and private airfields for anybody trying to abscond the country and get the heck out of Dodge here.
	So that's number one.
	I do think that just as was done to President Trump when they raided his home at Mar-a-Lago, because they thought that there was, and they planted evidence there in that case.
	But I do think that what the DOJ should be considering, if not getting ready to conduct, is a raid of Barack Obama's home up there at Colorama in Washington, D.C., where he's been since he physically left the White House.
	He's been running the White House all during the Biden regime.
	And I do think that there's some other places that need to be raided where there are likely a lot of evidence, a lot of receipts, so to speak, in many of these people that are part of the Obama White House, as well as the Biden White House.
	I mean, I just heard the great David Schoen talking about the former Deputy Attorney General Monaco, who also was the Homeland Security Advisor to Barack Obama.
	So that's number one.
	And those are things that need to be considered right now.
	And I was ready to wake up this morning to hear about some of these raids that should have been going on.
	There should, as a minimum, be a task force assembled of federal law enforcement authorities, as well as an assigned dedicated prosecutor at the DOJ level, at the Attorney General level, someone who is working directly for her and for the President of the United States.
	This has got to happen very quickly.
	Well, I agree.
	I mean, I think it would only be fair that if they rated Donald Trump for the taking of papers or whatever it was, that if a guy engages in a treasonous coup plot against an incoming president to overthrow our government and
	stifle the will of the American people, then maybe we should raid his house.
	I don't know.
	Maybe we should put some of his people in jail who were doing this, obviously.
	Because, I mean, I guess, and I've said this before, I think it's interesting that what they did to Trump, I don't know if they realized what they were doing with what they did to Trump, but they were setting precedent by arresting Trump and arresting Giuliani and arresting Peter Navarro and arresting Steve Bannon, imprisoning Navarro and Bannon, attempting to imprison Trump.
	And the line goes all the way down.
	You know, Sidney Powell, Roger Stone, the list goes on and on and on.
	I think it seems as though they were either wittingly or unwittingly establishing a precedent for the future that now Trump could and should hold up to them like a mirror and say, okay, you dictated the terms of this, so now we're going to follow your established president.
	And nobody, I don't think anybody would be surprised.
	I do think, however, though, there are a lot of mentally ill people that exist in this country, unfortunately, because of drugs, because of lifestyle, and or some cases, unfortunately, genetics.
	There are many, many mentally ill people who are just waiting for an excuse to go out and pull another Black Lives Matter Summer of Love or pull another January 6th style Fed surrection,
	which, again, if you understand the truth about those things, then you understand what their true intent was and how they were operated and where they came from.
	So that's my only concern, I guess, is that as a form of leverage or security that they have, they have the National Security Committee to say, well, if you arrest us or send a raid to Obama's house, there are mentally ill people who will go in the streets and commit acts of violence.
	Now, there was a lot of protesting after Trump, and that did cause a huge groundswell, and it could have some unintended effect there and we would have to wait and see, but these are all a part of the calculations one would imagine.
	You know, like in the same way that going after Trump sort of made him into a kind of martyr for the cause and all of his surrogates into sort of martyrs for the cause that then elevated their profile and gave them more, you know, street cred, I guess, or whatever.
	I would imagine that the same thing is being thought of on the opposite side.
	Well, if we raid Obama, we're going to lionize him and make him into a sort of martyr, right?
	And then the left will.
	And so it's all messed up.
	I don't know.
	This whole thing's broken.
	Our whole system's broken.
	It really is disgusting how all these things are operated.
	You can be fed up with it.
	I know I am.
	I'm tired of the whole thing because they want us to live in the left-right paradigm.
	But the way I've always seen it is that there are just those who believe in the Constitution and law and order and doing the right thing.
	And then there are those who have no qualm with doing the wrong thing if it benefits themselves.
	And then it's all subjective.
	It's like what's right and what's wrong.
	That's why they want us always perpetually living in this state of moral relativism, right?
	Where everything is, the morality of society is relative to the individual.
	It's not, there's no standard of morality that we all agree on.
	That's why they want us fractionalized.
	That's why they want us atomized and separated so that they can control us by keeping us at war with each other.
	And that's the whole like secret.
	That's how it all operates, right?
	And this is why as a Christian, I'm strong in my belief beyond just my belief in Jesus Christ, even, which is my first and primary belief and where my faith lies.
	But I understand that societally, the reason they get rid of the Bible, the reason they want to, you know, separate church and state, and by separate church and state, I mean, you know, get rid of Christianity and eradicate it from society and whatnot,
	and give you this sort of atheistic or maybe agnostic secularism, is so that, again, morality is subjective and that there is no popular agreement on what is right and wrong.
	And then the most heinous and evil people at the top take advantage of that to get away with murder.
	So when you have a society that is in agreement that there is, for instance, one true God and that there is a divinely inspired word of God that we can use as a reference point for having discernment and understanding right and wrong,
	and you predicate a society builded on an outline from the biblical understanding of morality, you can't just withdraw that and then expect society to continue being prosperous and successful, which is exactly what they've done.
	And I know that's sort of a, I've digressed away from the point that, you know, they're talking about doing these raids and stuff, but I guess my point was that I'm pretty upset with the fact that they have to take into calculation that,
	you know, if they raid Obama's house for whatever reason, I don't know why they would raid his house because who knows what he's keeping there besides some, you know, probably weird stuff, but that, you know, you have to worry about riots and people burning down federal courthouses and, you know, entire cities coming under siege.
	I mean, if you look at what they did in just, let's say, 2019, 2020, for instance, I mean, they did, in fact, lay siege to entire cities.
	Look at Seattle.
	Was it Seattle or was it Portland where they had the Chaz, the Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone?
	And nobody did anything.
	They just kind of like stood there and go, oh, well, you know, those kids with their lawless societies that they build inside of major metropolitan cities.
	So I don't know.
	The answer to me, my only answer is.
	I put God first.
	There's no answer to fix this broken world outside of Jesus, in my opinion.
	Anyway, stay tuned.
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	Welcome back to Just Forum Talk Radio.
	I'm your host, Craig James.
	And speaking of other news, I'm going to get into some other stories here today.
	You know, you have the story of what's happened and happening to Colorado, right?
	And President Trump has come out today and he's made an announcement through Tom Holman and his officials at DHS that the new target of these sort of immigration enforcement raids is going to be sanctuary cities.
	And we know here in Denver, we have a sanctuary city.
	And there was a story that came out where it looks like now the state officials are trying, or I guess they have passed a law that makes it so that ICE or that state governments cannot work with ICE officials to allow the deportations,
	which essentially is saying that the cooperation is going to be deemed illegal by our government, our state government, to cooperate with the federal government to enforce federal law.
	Which I don't know how they think that they can get away with that, but these people are deranged lunatics, who clearly would like to see this state fall apart and just be completely destroyed with their good intentions paving the way straight to hell.
	But it is interesting because in response, it seems to this and other things that have been happening, Tom Holman, our quote-unquote borders are, and Christy Noam, our DHS secretary, came out and made this statement about sanctuary cities and how it's going to be addressed going forward.
	Let's listen.
	I'll say it again.
	Sanctuary cities are sanctuaries for criminals.
	And I want to work very hard with Secretary Noam to keep President Trump's promise and his commitment several weeks ago that sanctuary cities are now our priority.
	We're going to flood the zone.
	You don't want to let us into jail to arrest a bad guy in the safety and security of a jail.
	You want to release him into the street, which makes it unsafe for the community, makes it unsafe for the officer, makes it unsafe for the alien.
	Because anything can happen on a street arrest.
	So what we're going to do, we're going to have more agents in New York City to look for that bad guy.
	So sanctuary cities get exactly what they don't want, more agents in the community and more agents in the worksite.
	If we can't arrest that bad guy in the safety and security of the county jail, then arrest him in the community.
	And we'll arrest him in a jail.
	And when we arrest him in the community, if he's with others that are in the country legally, they're coming too.
	I'll say it again.
	Sanctuary cities are sanctuary.
	So that was sort of the gist of the statement that was given.
	And I think any rational person who believes in borders and law and order would agree with the sentiment there, which is that, you know, at some point, if you don't have a border, you don't have a country, et cetera, et cetera.
	These people don't care about borders.
	They want open borders.
	They don't want country.
	And they have no, you know, grasp on just something as simple as the economic implication of that, I would imagine.
	Like, hey, let's open our borders, have no borders.
	And like, do you understand how much worse things will become for all of us if anybody can just walk into our country and use our resources and wealth and et cetera, et cetera?
	And I'm not saying that that is a reason not to help others, right?
	I've always been a proponent of helping others.
	Obviously, as a Christian, I believe in that.
	But at the same time, you cannot help others if you cannot help yourself.
	And if you destroy yourself in an attempt to help others, and then you fail to help yourself and that person, you're really doing a disservice to not only yourself, but them as well.
	And this is where you get these sort of atheist liberals that will come start quoting scripture at you and talking about Jesus when they don't necessarily have a relationship with Jesus and they don't understand scripture to any degree other than being able to selectively take pieces of it out of context and throw in your face and say, well, that's not the Jesus I read about in Scripture.
	Do you think he would do he would turn away the migrants and he would it's like clearly you haven't read through the entire book, but beyond that, again scripture doesn't only talk about having a kind and giving heart.
	It also talks about responsibility.
	It also talks about making wise decisions.
	It talks about taking care of yourself and taking care of your family.
	All of those things work in congruence to give you the ability to help others.
	So this is where I get, you know, you can always hear the argument before it even comes.
	But beyond that even, to give you an example of what we're dealing with here in Colorado, as I said before, I guess the law that was put out is talking about I think I read the headline this morning and it said something to the effect of Colorado passes law to preclude basically local law enforcement,
	state law enforcement officials from working with federal law officials unless there's a criminal investigation, meaning that unless there's like a criminal investigation that is ongoing against this person, they can't cooperate if he's here illegally.
	And somebody pointed out very appropriately in the comments to that post, I think it was from the Denver Compost, they were like, you mean a criminal investigation like if somebody were here illegally?
	That kind of criminal investigation?
	Well, no, not that kind of criminal because that's, you know, that's not the kind of criminal investigation we're talking about here.
	We're talking about like if he committed an actual crime.
	Oh, so to be clear, illegally entering our country as a felon is not a crime.
	Well, it's not the kind of crime that we care about here in Colorado.
	It's like, it's just all a joke.
	It's like these people are completely.
	I want to say that they're delusional, but many of them are very intentionally doing the things they're doing.
	They have a purpose, they have a desire, and they know full well what they're doing.
	Great example would be Jason Crowe, our liberal representative in Congress.
	Listen to him outside the Aurora Ice Processing Center today.
	I'm Congressman Jason Crowe from Colorado 6th District, and I'm outside of the Aurora Ice Processing Facility.
	This is an ice detention center that's run by the GEO Corporation.
	And I just attempted to conduct an oversight visit of the facility pursuant to federal law.
	So Public Law 118-47, Section 527 says that members of Congress must be provided immediate access to facilities like the one behind me here to conduct oversight.
	Again, I was just in there and was just denied access in violation of federal law to this facility.
	So listen, one of my biggest obligations as a member of Congress is to conduct oversight, to show up and to make sure the taxpayer dollars are being used in accordance with my constituents' values, but also in accordance with law.
	And that's certainly not what is happening here today.
	You know, Aurora has just become a horrible place in many parts.
	Many parts is still nice, in all fairness, but it's because of leadership, if you want to even call it that, like Jason Crows.
	And what does he really want to do?
	I mean, think about it.
	What he wants to do, he wants to do two things.
	He wants to do a PR stunt to up-elevate his personal profile for his political ambition by going to this ICE facility and, you know, confronting whoever and making some grandstand.
	But even beyond that, who's to say he's not doing what a lot of other liberal politicians have been doing, which is actively impeding federal law enforcement from achieving their mission, like going into their facility, doxing their enforcement officers, that kind of thing.
	Anyway, it's crazy.
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	Welcome back to Form Talk Radio.
	I'm your host, Craig James.
	And I want to take a second and talk about, you know, sort of the same thing here.
	We started with the Sanctuary City push from the DHS and Tom Holman saying, hey, we're going to go after these sanctuary cities.
	Of course, we all know we live adjacent to at least one major sanctuary city in Denver.
	I'm not sure.
	There are like little sanctuary pockets around here.
	I think Boulder might be one too.
	But what we're seeing there then led into what I was saying about Jason Crow, our infamous liberal representative from the House here in Colorado, who was doing one of his little PR stunts in front of the Aurora Ice Facility, demanding entrance to this federal law enforcement facility because he wants to do oversight.
	In other words, he wants to make some grandstanding gesture of his own, boasting his own self-importance and elevating his political profile because that suits his ambition.
	And not only that, probably engaging in the same operation many Democrat politicians have been doing, which is trying to, as I said before, hinder and block the efforts of federal law enforcement in achieving their mission, which is to deport these people who are here illegally.
	I mean, it's just what it is, right?
	But then it goes even further, right?
	Because you have to do a deep dive into the mindset of the liberals running these sanctuary cities.
	And here's a great example.
	Kyle Clark, the liberal left-wing, you know, I think he's with NBC or one of those fake news outlets, journalist from Denver, did a sit-down interview with the mayor of Denver, Mike Johnston.
	And in this meeting, he asked them an interesting question about the city's massive $250 million budget gap, right?
	Which many people attribute directly to the money that was taken from the budget and used for things like housing, illegals, and giving illegals medical care and doing all these other things, right?
	Listen to this exchange because it's so telling about how they think about you, how they think about me, or what they think about us, and just beyond.
	Listen.
	Do you wish you had any of those dollars back?
	I wish that I had the federal dollars back that they promised us on immigration that we spent pending their reimbursement.
	I definitely wish we had those back.
	I wouldn't take back any of the dollars we spent on homelessness.
	I think when you look at the results that we've had on that investment, it's historic.
	We've dropped the homeless rate more than any other city in American history.
	That's a win.
	So I think that investment is working.
	We'll keep doing it.
	We want to find ways to make it better.
	I think on the migrant crisis, we certainly didn't ask for it, didn't go looking for it.
	That was not on our priority list.
	But we also didn't want to see people freeze to death on the streets of the city.
	So that was a humanitarian crisis.
	We had to step in.
	I wish the federal government had come through on their promise.
	Hold on, I got to stop.
	So you didn't want to see people freeze to death in Middle City?
	I can, I actually, I might have a solution, and this might be novel to them.
	They might not have heard.
	I know a place where most of these people come from where it doesn't get that cold at night any time of year.
	It's actually an arid desert or maybe even subtropical in some parts.
	It's just south of here, a couple states, or at least one.
	It's called Mexico.
	Anyway, continue.
	Because, I mean, you know your critics, especially those on the right, many of whom don't live in the city of Denver, but care about Denver, right?
	Draw a straight line between your spending on migrants and your spending on homelessness and the city's current financial position.
	Why isn't it fair to draw that straight line?
	Yeah, I think because the facts just don't bear that out.
	If you want to look at a direct line of what's happening on the budget crisis, it is that every year in the last 15 years, the city has averaged about a 5 percent increase in sales tax revenue every year.
	This year in 2025, that increase is at near zero.
	It's at 0.3 percent.
	And so what's happened is with the global trade wars and economic recession fears and the uncertainty of the president, people are afraid to buy a new refrigerator or go out to dinner or go on vacation.
	And that is why our sales tax revenues are flat.
	And when you have a growing government and flap revenues, that math doesn't work.
	And so we'll make the hard decisions like any business or family does.
	If you've got less money coming in, you've got to find a way to make the budget balance.
	Yeah, if you've got less money, you've got to raise taxes.
	Listen to what his logic is, okay?
	His logic is, well, no, it's not that I spent more money than I had in my budget.
	It's that our tax revenue didn't increase at the same rate that it should have, you know, that it has historically.
	And it's because of global concerns.
	It's because of global fears and people just aren't sure.
	They're worried.
	I don't know.
	Maybe it's because you've let your city turn into a complete cesspool.
	Maybe it's because you've let your city turn into a third world country and people are leaving because they don't want to live in a crime-ridden, violent, horrific dystopia.
	Maybe that's why your sales are...
	We should probably raise taxes because that's what people want.
	They don't want clean cities and safe places to go, parks to see with their family, and not worried about getting stabbed with dirty needles by homeless people when you walk around Union Station for an ice cream with your family.
	No, no, what they want is higher taxes and illegals and homeless people.
	These people are insane, okay?
	I don't even know how to explain it further.
	But this is just like the insight into how their briefs were.
	Well, you know, it's global.
	What did he say?
	I got to play this again.
	He said something about like global.
	Well, they're concerned about and the uncertainty of the president.
	People are afraid to buy a new refrigerator or go out to dis with the global trade wars and economic recession fears and the uncertainty of the president.
	People are afraid to buy a new refrigerator or go out to dinner or go on vacation.
	And that is why.
	Yeah.
	Global trade wars, economic fears, the president.
	I mean, people don't want to buy a refrigerator, man.
	They don't want to go out deep.
	It has nothing to do with the marauding gangs of homeless people and illegal immigrants running around our city, getting into gun battles, killing each other and killing innocent victims and driving families out of Denver.
	It has nothing to do with that, guys.
	Okay?
	This is just a coincidence and, or it's not even happening.
	Okay?
	So, you know, whatever.
	It's just maddening to listen to these people make these justifications.
	But then again, welcome to Colorado, you know?
	Stay tuned.
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	Welcome back to Just Forum Talk Radio.
	Your host, Craig James.
	It's our final segment, and we have a bunch of texts.
	I wish I could read them all, but many of them sort of are just pointing out the hypocrisy and sort of the disingenuous nature of people like Jason Crowe and others like Mike Johnson, which I agree with and I appreciate.
	And, you know, it's just one of those things where I share your sentiment and it is interesting.
	But we do have some scripture, and I think it's an important piece of scripture that we come to here today.
	And, you know, it's very serendipitous how we land on scripture at certain days.
	You know, certain topics, certain subjects, certain things we talk about, and then we land on a piece of scripture that talks directly about it.
	I don't think it's a coincidence, and I take it very seriously to try to give these scriptures to you as best I can.
	And today, it's no different.
	We're in 1 John 3, verse 11, basically 10 to 15.
	And it says this, and I want to talk about these words.
	It says, whoever does not do what is right is not of God, especially the one who does not love his brother.
	For this is the message you have heard from the beginning.
	We should love one another, unlike Cain, who was of the evil one and murdered his brother.
	And why did he murder him?
	Because his works were evil and his brothers were righteous.
	Do not be surprised, brothers, if the world hates you.
	We know that we have passed from death to life because we love our brothers.
	The one who does not love remains in death.
	Everyone who hates his brother is a murderer.
	And you know that no murderer has eternal life residing in him.
	And I think this is a great example of one of those pieces of scripture that, you know, if it's taken, I believe, out of context and it's used in a certain way, you know, people will make an argument that, for instance, if you're not embracing everyone and doing every, you know, basically bending over backwards to please everyone, no matter what, that you're not following the commandment of scripture.
	But what is love?
	We've talked about this before.
	If you're a heroin addict, what's the more loving thing to do?
	Is it to give you the drugs to continue your addiction and watch you spiral into depression and self-harm?
	Or is it to take that away and say, no, let's get you some real help?
	In the same way, if we talk about what love is, in all things, we have to have discernment and understand and trust that the deceiver, Satan, will try to convince us that the things we do out of the love that's given to us scripturally, that we've been given through Jesus' sacrifice, that we share with others, they'll try to convince us that that's not love, that that's hate, that that's just being mean or whatever.
	And we have to be stronger than that.
	So when we see those things in this world, we've got to remind ourselves that the love that we are taught to give to others does not conform to a worldly standard, but conforms to an eternal standard that's set through the discernment that we receive in Scripture.
	So that's where I'm going to leave it.
	And if you haven't accepted Jesus as your Lord and Savior, I invite you now.
	Open your heart, say a prayer, call upon his name, accept him as your Lord and Savior, and let him do great things in you and through you with the Holy Spirit.
	But that's where I'm going to leave it.
	I'll see you guys tomorrow.
	God willing, same time, same place.
	Until then, I'm your host, Craig Jabes, Just Form Talk Radio.
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