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	Welcome to another Justin Forum Talk Radio Show.
	I'm your host, Craig James.
	And man, we got a lot to cover here today.
	We're going to get through it all.
	You know, hopefully it'll be a good day for just getting through the news.
	We'll try to do our best here for all of you out there listening to get you informed and ready to go.
	So let's get right into it.
	I guess the first story is the same story we've been covering mostly this week.
	You know, the Epstein story continues to evolve, many things taking place over the last 24 hours, including a press conference given by Caroline Levette, the White House press secretary.
	We had a cabinet meeting that was briefly aired where Pam Bondi and President Trump made remarks on the Epstein case.
	And we had a number of other sort of developments and other clips resurfacing and all kinds of stuff happening over the last 24 hours, including an interview that just dropped between Tucker Carlson and an individual who is sort of a reporter who used to work over in the mainstream media.
	Lots of interesting stuff there.
	So we're going to try to break it all down, get you that information.
	Plus, all the other stories, there's a lot more going on in the world, but we'll try to get into all of the details here.
	And I want to continue down the path of the Epstein thing because, look, I mean, perhaps this is what they want.
	They want our attention driven in this direction, and they want us to look at it.
	So why not?
	Let's do it.
	Let's get into it.
	Let's try to break it down.
	Because, you know, the more I see this story evolve, the more I'm trying to sort of wrap my head around it.
	And there's another major story that, I mean, it probably should be the biggest story in the country right now, but somehow is not.
	The FBI launching a criminal investigation into John Brennan and James Comey.
	Yes, you heard that correctly.
	The FBI, as almost simultaneously to them announcing that Jeffrey Epstein is, there is no there.
	He's not blackmailing people.
	He doesn't have a client list.
	Nothing to see here.
	They simultaneously come out and say, but by the way, we're going to open up criminal investigations into John Brennan and James Comey.
	So this is all related to the Trump-Russia hoax, collusion hoax.
	And we're going to see where that goes.
	And we'll talk about that too here in the show today.
	So we're going to try to cover it all and get an idea of what all this means, right?
	And where we're at.
	So yesterday, yesterday, yesterday, wow, yesterday was a big day.
	A lot happening in the last 24 hours.
	Of course, you had one of the most, I guess, interesting exchanges here.
	And I want to play this whole thing.
	So basically, this is a White House meeting, right?
	And the press is involved.
	And you're listening to this sort of exchange where a reporter asks about Epstein, right?
	And he asks the question, is Epstein an intelligence asset?
	He asks all these very interesting questions to the president and Pam Bondi, who is there at the meeting.
	And you've got to listen to this full clip, and then we'll talk about it.
	I want to play it, though.
	Let's listen to this.
	You better.
	If I can ask the pretty general question, too.
	Sure.
	Your memo and release yesterday in Jeffrey Epstein, it left some lingering mysteries.
	One of the biggest ones is whether he ever worked for a American or foreign intelligence agency.
	The former labor secretary, who was Miami U.S. Attorney Alex Acosta, he allegedly said that he did work for an intelligence agency.
	So could you resolve whether or not he did?
	And also, could you say why there was a minute missing from the jailhouse tape on the night of his death?
	Sir, could I just interrupt.
	Are you still talking about Jeffrey Epstein?
	This guy's been talked about for years.
	You're asking, we have Texas, we have this, we have all of the things.
	And are people still talking about this guy, this creep?
	That is unbelievable.
	Do you want to waste the time?
	Do you feel like answering?
	I don't mind answering.
	I mean, I can't believe you're asking a question on Epstein at a time like this where we're having some of the greatest success and also tragedy with what happened in Texas.
	It just seems like a desecration.
	But you go ahead.
	Sure.
	First, to back up on that, in February, I did an interview on Fox, and it's been getting a lot of attention because I said, I was asked a question about the client list, and my response was, was, it's sitting on my desk to be reviewed, meaning the file, along with the JFK, MLK files as well.
	That's what I meant by that.
	Also, to the tens of thousands of video, they turned out to be childborn downloaded by that disgusting Jeffrey Epstein.
	Childborn is what they were.
	Never going to be released, never going to see the light of day.
	To him being an agent, I have no knowledge about that.
	We can get back to you on that.
	And the minute missing from the video, we released the video showing definitively, the video was not conclusive, but the evidence prior to it was showing he committed suicide.
	And what was on that, there was a minute that was off the counter.
	And what we learned from Bureau of Prisons was every year, every night, they redo that video.
	It's old from like 1999.
	So every night the video is reset, and every night should have the same minute missing.
	So we're looking for that video to release that as well, showing that a minute is missing every night.
	And that's it on Epstein.
	Ms. President's final.
	What?
	Okay, okay.
	I don't even know where to begin.
	So you start with Trump's response.
	And, you know, obviously, if Epstein is a CIA asset slash, you know, international moneyman for building out the money laundering and, you know, the offshore banking ties that the CIAs and their shell companies use to interact with foreign intelligence services.
	If that was his, you know, in fact, his role, then, of course, Trump's going to be like, oh, you guys are still talking about this guy?
	Like, we can't really tell you anything.
	Let's move on.
	Okay, fine.
	You know, I'll give Trump a pass on that.
	And I know people won't.
	People are like losing their ever-living minds about it.
	They're like, oh, this proves that Trump's an asset of da-da-da-da-da.
	He's Israeli.
	He's compromised.
	He's this.
	He's that.
	It's like, if you're like, I bet, I wonder if these people would feel the same way if the question was like, sir, it's been said that our country has nuclear launch codes.
	Do you care to comment on what they are?
	It's like, you're still talking about the launch codes.
	No, I'm not going to give you the launch codes.
	And I'm just saying that in the same realm because, like, yes, of course we're frustrated that Epstein was running this blackmail operation and doing these heinous things.
	Yeah, I get it.
	I'm mad too.
	But the truth on that's never going to come out, again, because this guy was working for the CIA.
	And the CIA is not going to tell you.
	Like, everybody needs to stop freaking out about this, in my opinion.
	I mean, it's fine to be upset.
	It's fine to say, you know, this is BS.
	This is not fair.
	I guess that's all reasonable and true.
	But at what point do you just realize, like, look, the guy was Working for the CIA.
	It's like, do you want the knock list?
	Do you want the non-official cover list too?
	You want us to give you all the agent names?
	I'm not saying that it's right or wrong.
	I'm just saying it's not going to happen.
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	Little girl And I never did So I'm coming to you Welcome back to Just Forum Talk Radio.
	I'm your host, Craig James.
	And, you know, we have a caller, but I want them to hold for a second if they don't mind because I want to finish this thought because I think it's really important to understand.
	People are really upset at Trump, right?
	And they're really upset for the purpose or the reason that he's not telling us the truth about Epstein.
	He's hiding it.
	Look, there are national security implications to all this.
	And I understand that we want justice.
	I want justice for the victims of the Epstein pedophile, trafficking, blackmail, whatever ring that was being run.
	And I want people to go to jail.
	But again, as I've tried to lay this out throughout the week, there are third, fourth, and fifth order effects of all this that go far beyond people facing prison time.
	I mean, you're talking about global stability.
	You could have wars break out where you could have, you know, not, you know, you have this relatively compared to the size of the world list of victims involved with the Epstein stuff.
	And yeah, I get it.
	There's corruption in our government.
	But the CIA has been running these exploitation operations as well as every other government.
	When you go make a deal with Epstein, people think that's horrible and heinous.
	But Trump went and shook hands with Kim Jong-un, who has probably murdered more people than most of you and I know on an individual basis and probably done some of the most heinous and sick things to children and women 10 or 100 times or 1,000 times worse than what Epstein ever did.
	And you make deals with these people.
	So I'm not sitting here trying to like, I just think people need to wake up and live in the real world.
	You can't keep acting like children when it comes to stuff.
	I want to see Epstein.
	I've wanted to see Epstein go down.
	He did.
	He's dead.
	He's either dead from suicide or murder, or he's basically blanked out as a human being, living in some, you know, podunk place in witness protection program or wherever he may be, right?
	Never able to be a citizen or a public person again.
	Anyway, I had to get that out because I just, I see these people complaining and I'm like, I get it, but do you get what the implication of it all is?
	Like, this guy was helping the CIA launder.
	And you want to, you want to, I know, you want to disintegrate the CIA and spread it into a thousand pieces and throw it into the wind.
	Great.
	You do that internally.
	You do that quietly.
	You don't do it in front of the whole world so that all of our enemies can use it as, you know, for recruiting videos to launch attacks against us, to say, look at how evil this empire is.
	We need to destroy it and topple it.
	Anyway, I can go on and on and on.
	Let's go to the caller because I'm sure there's something interesting there.
	Caller, you're on there.
	Mr. James, Mr. James, Mr. James.
	First of all, God bless you.
	Thank you.
	Glad you're still spitting out truth.
	I love it.
	This is Eric.
	So I've been listening to a lot of the Tucker, Candace, and some of Alex Jones, and even more so, Owen Schoyer.
	I don't know if you're familiar with Owen Scheuer.
	Oh, yeah, for sure.
	He's also...
	Over 90% of the MAGA supporters, the regular people, I'm not talking about these new MAGA influencers that are on Trump's side, you know, the ones that were a never-Trumper before and now they're all bandwagon.
	I'm talking about the ones that have stuck with them.
	I'm talking about the regular people, okay?
	Over 90%, they want and they're upset.
	You're absolutely right.
	I think more so that not so much that it didn't come out, but the way he did it.
	Like, he could have taken a different tact to it.
	You know, he could have just said, it's still under investigation.
	They could have said nothing.
	You know, Pam Body could have said nothing.
	They could have just been like, we're still reviewing it.
	We're still trying to search for the file.
	They could have said like minimal comments.
	But the way they did it is what I think upsets everybody more than anything.
	Honestly.
	I agree.
	Look, do you think I don't think they handled this well at all?
	I think they couldn't have handled it probably worse, to be honest.
	But at the same time, this was one of those things where it's like, damned if you do, damned if you don't.
	There was no win.
	It's like, like I said before, there are certain things the government cannot admit because of the implication, because of the third order effect on the world at large, right?
	And this is one of those things.
	International bankers, corporations, international corporations.
	No, no, no, no, no.
	I'm talking about foreign diplomatic relations.
	I'm talking about wars, you know, between nations that are, you know, currently...
	Again, if the CIA said, yeah, we run color revolutions in countries, what do you think those countries are going to do?
	Are they going to just sit down and go, oh, yeah, that's great.
	I guess we just all got duped?
	This is something that they can never admit.
	Now, we all probably know it.
	We all probably have a good idea of it.
	We all probably have a very, it couldn't be more obvious to some people and perhaps even to those countries.
	But it's like you don't admit it.
	You have to, for whatever reason, because this is how the global chess game is played, you cannot acknowledge or admit these things publicly.
	Otherwise, you will, again, as I said before, you'll give the enemy or your allies, quote unquote, everything they need to start, you know, abandoning you and working with each other against you and fomenting this hatred of you.
	And then you're basically giving them what they want, which is a reason to hate you.
	And now I'm not, look, this is where it gets crazy because it's like, I'm saying all of this pragmatically.
	I'm not saying this as like, oh, I love that this is the world we live in or that I think it's fair.
	It's not fair.
	It's not great.
	It's ugly.
	It's brutal.
	It's just the truth.
	And I don't know.
	I'm kind of torn in this position where it's like, yeah, of course I want to know about Epstein, but we already know everything about Epstein.
	We have all of it.
	There is nothing about Epstein we don't already know.
	The only thing we don't have is the government coming out and saying, yep, you're right about everything.
	So this is where I get a little frustrated with people because I'm like, what about Epstein do you want to know that we don't know already?
	Would be my question.
	Well, here's another point on that.
	Okay, so we both follow Christ, right?
	We believe in that.
	We are devoted.
	That's our foundation for life.
	Amen.
	Right?
	Okay.
	So with that said, doesn't this pull on your principles?
	Doesn't this kind of like make you feel like, I mean, for me, I'm like, this is children are involved.
	You know, okay.
	You know, it's one thing if they're grown women, consenting women, adults.
	Grab it.
	We're talking about children, though.
	And I get it.
	You know, we know everything about FC.
	I'm positive that all this country is.
	Let's assume he's gone.
	If he is dead, which, you know, who knows?
	People say he's in.
	He's one of many.
	He's one of many.
	Right, right.
	Let's be honest.
	Look at the timing of it.
	You're saying children...
	There are children being sex trafficked enslaved on the Mexican border.
	There are children being sex trafficked in Korea.
	Are we coming with the same thing?
	Let's be honest, all over the world.
	Right.
	So what I'm saying is, I get it that Epstein's this bad dude who did bad things, right?
	And I know that you're invoking sort of this Christian principle of, you know, we should have, and we should have a righteous indignation against this.
	But again, what does the Bible say?
	If we're going to go to scripture, Eric, what does the Bible say?
	Vengeance is mine, says the Lord, not mine, not yours.
	And, you know, I can rebuke those things and say they are evil, but at what point would taking vengeance in my hands or calling on others to take vengeance in their hands, is it me trying to sort of, you know, again, put myself in a position where I don't think I belong, but I can, I mean, rebuking it.
	Yes, this is all, I'm rebuking it.
	In the name of Christ, I rebuke these evil people who hurt children anywhere, all the time, forever.
	And I will do what I can on a personal level to stand against it and to call it out.
	But what am I saying, you know, what are the, what is Alex Jones and Owen Schroyer and all these other people sitting and myself as well, what is it, us sitting behind a microphone talking about, oh man, these people are so corrupt and evil, you know, that doesn't do much except you guys are powerful.
	Well, let me say this.
	But I'm just saying, Eric, I'm just saying that we can affect change, yes.
	But in this regard, the way the system operates, right?
	The expectation is so far removed from reality, if that makes sense.
	That's my whole point.
	My point is not that this stuff, I'm not saying the stuff's not evil.
	I'm not saying that this stuff is, you know, is all good and I think we should just forget about it.
	But again, like I said, what do we need, what do we, what do we not know about Epstein that we want to know or want to happen?
	And you say, and people say they want the client list.
	Who on the client list don't we know?
	And don't we, we know about John Lupernell.
	We know about Les Wexner.
	We know about his entire network, Bill Gates, Bill Clinton.
	You go down, like, we have the names.
	We know the connections.
	It's like they've given us everything, everything except a public apology, which is what I think most of these people want.
	They don't even, you know what they don't want?
	And I'll tell you this, and this is my, my, I'll let you speak in a second.
	I'm sorry for interrupting.
	But you know what they want?
	They want a public apology.
	They want the people out there who are yelling about this, they want to be told, you were right, we were wrong, so that they can feel better about themselves, so that they can go out and say, look, I was right about everything.
	And I'm trying to tell you that if that's all you want, look, I'll say it.
	Everybody was right about Epstein.
	Everybody was right about the child trafficking and blackmail rings.
	But what does that do?
	You know, Epstein's dead, presumably.
	All these other people have been exposed and have been basically taken out of positions of power or influence.
	I mean, anyway, if you have anything else, Eric, I'm just my opinion.
	I get it, but this is the thing.
	All this shows is that there's one rule for me, another for thee.
	And it's basically that if any of us did this, oh, we'd be locked away.
	We'd be, you know, our families would be oppressed for the time.
	The CIA has had, I'm sorry to interrupt again.
	I need to stop that.
	But the CIA's got a license to do these things.
	Like, we've given them, and I'm not saying it's right or wrong.
	But, I mean, like, did I sign off on running a color revolution in Ukraine in 2014 to replace that government?
	No.
	It was Obama and, you know, Susan Rice and Valerie Jarrett.
	And that's what people are upset about, sir.
	That's upset, too.
	People want justice.
	People want justice.
	Like, okay, you committed this crime.
	This is like treason.
	Arrest them.
	Go to jail.
	Because if somebody is a whistleblower, oh, they're a traitor.
	They're charged with treason.
	You know, I mean, who's the guy in Russia, the NSA whistleblower?
	I forgot his Snowden, right?
	Julian Assange.
	Charged with treason.
	You know, Nick would be the guy who talked about this because he talks about the uniform military code of justice and the UMCJ.
	And he talks about these these tribunals that are coming, which if that's all on the horizon, I'm all for it.
	But I think people are just upset because they don't feel that the scales of justice are balanced.
	That's the problem.
	No, no, no.
	Ultimately, I've been studying this in detail, like very closely for a decade, and I've known that since day one.
	And it's not changing with this situation, unfortunately.
	And look, I'm not trying to be pessimistic and blackpill everybody, but there are certain expectations, like I said, that are so far removed from reality that it becomes sort of this show in and of itself.
	But we got to take a break.
	If you want to hang on, I'll bring you back.
	But anyway, we'll stay tuned.
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	Welcome back to Just Forum Talk Radio.
	I'm your host, Craig James, and it looks like our friend Eric decided to stay on the line.
	So, Eric, let me just go through my case real quick.
	Well, actually, you know what?
	I've cut you off too many times.
	Please finish any points you have because I'm sure you've been very patient with me.
	I just want to point out these three things.
	The timing of it, terrible.
	Diddy gets off.
	Netanyahu is back in the White House, right?
	Didn't somebody nominate him for the Nobel Peace Prize, something like that, right?
	Bibi handed Trump a letter nominating Trump for Nobel Peace Prize.
	Oh, okay, okay, that's what it was.
	Okay.
	Well, and at the timing, he's in the White House.
	Epstein files are closed.
	Diddy gets off.
	And they are one of many.
	That's the thing.
	It's not like, oh, Epstein was the one guy.
	No, there's tons of them.
	And here's the thing.
	Okay, everything had to go through.
	Oh, we need to extend the debt ceiling so we can pay our border agents and get more border agents and have the personnel to do what was mandated, right?
	Like let's clean up the illegal situation, all the illegal aliens and foreign entities, all that kind of stuff, right?
	But then when Israel needs money, check signs.
	Money same.
	Automatic.
	Boom.
	Israel needs weapons, son it.
	Send it.
	Send it.
	People need, the American people need things.
	Oh, infrastructure.
	Oh, we got to debate with Congress, and we don't have the money to take care of American citizenry or our infrastructure.
	It's, bro, it's crazy.
	And I think people are getting fed up with it.
	At this point, it's like Israel has a chokehold on our government.
	I don't know how else to see it.
	Okay, so 9-11.
	Yeah.
	So, okay, so you're I think we're conflating the Epstein with the Israeli situation because that's like a whole other conversation.
	I know they're tied through like that intelligence nexus, but I don't think that they are necessarily like, again, this is like two different can of worms.
	No, it can't be.
	Well, to the extent that that's a much bigger conversation.
	Well, I was just saying, that's a much bigger and broader conversation than what we're talking about with the Epstein expectations.
	And perhaps it is.
	Israel needs their image to stay clean.
	That's what it is.
	So perhaps there is an inside.
	But again, I think it's provable beyond almost a reasonable doubt now that Epstein was an asset of the CIA and that the Mossad intelligence was working with the CIA and that they just shared him as an asset.
	It wasn't like he was solely and exclusively working for Israel.
	I think it's more provable that he was working for Mossad because he was blackmailing American.
	No, we know he was working for Mossad, but I'm saying it's nearly undeniable that he was working for the CIA and the Mossad simultaneously.
	Yeah, the CIA and Mossad are basically like twin sisters.
	Well, just like anything else, French intelligence, British intelligence, they're all working together in some form or fashion.
	Right.
	So my point is that...
	Are the intelligence agencies going to...
	You know, you want justice, yes.
	But when you...
	Then they should have never opened their mouths.
	They should have never opened their mouths.
	But when they're in intelligence, think about it this way.
	There's ways you have to think of this, in my opinion.
	A, do you believe our government should have in intelligence, whether it's military or the CIA or NSA or whatever, do you think they should have operational secrecy?
	Well, yes.
	Okay.
	Do you think that a part of that operational secrecy entails understanding and mitigating threats to national security?
	Okay, yes.
	Well, let me ask you this one thing.
	Do you think that the CIA should be running operations on our own Congress to blackmail our own Congress to coerce them to do things that they want for their global agenda?
	Well, did you know that as a part of their legal framework for existing, they are technically not allowed to do that?
	Yeah, exactly.
	But they do it all the time.
	Exactly.
	So this is more of a legal and an ethical constraint you're talking about with the CIA not necessarily a constraint on their secrecy and classification and their ability to mitigate national security threats, right?
	Well, at this point, the CIA is corrupt as, you know, excuse my language, but they're corrupt as a rotten bag Of meat.
	I mean, they're just corrupt, right?
	I mean, the FBI, a bunch of those FBI agents were fired and then brought back.
	The number three under Cash Patel, the number three guy, the one right underneath Dan Bogino, he was against Trump and he worked in the Russian collusion, and he just got promoted to the number three position.
	He was fired?
	So let me ask you this.
	Do you agree?
	What about Comey's daughter?
	Let me ask you this.
	What about Comey's daughter?
	Yeah, well, I'll address that, but just let me ask you a quick question.
	Do you agree that these intelligence agencies with the government, military, whoever's involved, have to balance accountability versus national security?
	In other words, do hard decisions have to be made where you compromise one for the other or vice versa?
	Yes, but that's only because at this point, we cause, like you said, all these color revolutions.
	Well, look, I'm going through all these questions, and I'll address the Maureen Comey thing quickly.
	Let me ask you this.
	Okay, then with that point, let me ask you this one thing.
	Do you think that the FBI or the CIA are not involved in our own kings protest or the BLM riots or the NTV?
	Do you think that they don't have any kind of hand at all in that?
	I think there are many things that go into those things, and a lot of it is foreign influence operations, and that that is perhaps a reason that they would justify their involvement to counter foreign influence operations.
	So, yes, they are probably involved to the extent that they justify it by saying we are countering foreign influence operations in America, and that becomes a really nasty gray zone where a lot of things go on that can be interpreted either way.
	So I'm not saying that they don't participate.
	I'm saying that they can justify their actions in a number of ways if they are participating.
	And like, look at what Edward covered.
	I mean, they're spying on us.
	They've been spying on us forever.
	So it's not none of the things that were like, if we really wanted to change it, there would be a groundswell and we would change it.
	But again, they control the mechanisms of narrative control and a lot.
	But look, we're getting, I love your conversation, Eric, but we really, we were like balancing.
	I know, because I see things similar to you.
	I know it's all connected, but it's very difficult to have a conversation when you're going from no kings to, you know, the CIA's involvement in Epstein.
	No, you asked that question.
	Did you ask the question?
	No, I was asking general questions about intelligence and how it operates.
	But anyway, look, if you want to keep this conversation going, please stay online.
	We're coming back.
	I think this is good radio.
	Stay tuned.
	Stay tuned.
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	I'm your host, Craig James, and our good friend caller, frequent caller, Eric, is on and we're talking about interesting stuff.
	Eric, I really, I really, you know, I completely agree with you in so Many ways, and your sentiment, moreoverly, in so many ways.
	And I'm not even trying to play devil's advocate because I don't like to do that.
	I'm just again, I'm trying to pull the expectation into the realm of where it's reasonable.
	And, like, I guess the things that I try to consider are like, for instance, if we're discussing the necessity for operational secrecy or national security, you know, threat mitigation by these intelligence agencies versus the legal and ethical constraints with which these intelligence agencies must work in,
	and we're trying to say that there has to be a balancing act for accountability versus security, right?
	And we've acknowledged, you've acknowledged yes to all those questions I asked saying like, yeah, these are all things that are reasonable expectations for our government.
	Does it not also stand to reason that our own government, like you have to ask yourself, first off, does the benefit outweigh the detriment, right?
	And I would argue that, yes, our country has done some crappy, terrible things, but overall, we're a force for good in the world and that we can fix it.
	Some people want to go in and smash it up like an Antifa riot and just leave the hollow husk of a broken system in the ash heap of history.
	And I'm just not ready to advocate for that.
	I'm saying reform comes internally, and a lot of the reform is never going to be publicly disclosed because you have to remember that what if you're giving foreign adversaries,
	terrorist organizations, criminal networks, everything they want to exploit vulnerabilities, to evade being detected, to give them an interest in retaliating against the United States.
	And that's what I'm trying to convey without sitting here saying, oh, yeah, I think Epstein should just, you know, we should just forget it.
	But that's how Trump said it.
	Again, I don't think he did it well.
	I don't think Pam Bonnie did it well.
	I think they couldn't have done this worse, really.
	But I think at the end of the day, this is the internal conversation that's taking place.
	Okay, but here's another point.
	So you're talking about terrorist groups and criminal organizations.
	The CIA, there's no criminal organization that the CIA does not work with, does not get a piece of, does not get a cut.
	But again, what is their operational objective?
	It is to infiltrate these organizations.
	That is their whole...
	It's like when the FBI sends a mole to go work in the mafia and the guy has to do some awful stuff.
	Well, I mean, to a degree, it's not.
	And I'm not, but look, again, this is where I feel like I was fighting on the fort of the government.
	I'm not.
	This is so bad.
	But see, here's the thing.
	I worked with the Tijuana cartel and these other cartel members.
	I worked with them.
	The CIA just wants a piece of that pie.
	Money coming in that is not on the Congress budget that they could use.
	That's what it comes down to.
	And so they get a piece of a pie from all of them.
	100%.
	Now, I don't even want to go into this.
	I just want to say this.
	black budget do you remember everything that cashed Do you remember, and it's basically like, we'll let you keep working.
	They don't take any of these criminal organizations down.
	If they wanted to, they could take them down in one day.
	They could eliminate the Jalisco.
	Well, the Cash.
	I mean, but Eric, you're talking about invading a foreign country.
	You're invading a foreign country.
	You know that, right?
	We can't just launch airstrikes into Mexico.
	I'm pretty sure that they are sovereign nations.
	I'm not saying that.
	I'm not saying that.
	The CIA is very powerful.
	They got assets all over.
	If they wanted to tickle down, they could crumble up from a titanium.
	I'm not saying I think you're right.
	They could, but you're declaring war on a nation at that point.
	You're basically going around the Mexican military and committing combat in there.
	How is that any different from Ukraine?
	How is that any different from Hong Kong or Ukraine or Hong Kong?
	Because we're not officially at war at any of those places, and we have assets there just like we do in war.
	I'm saying the CIA assets.
	I'm saying the CIA assets.
	Well, we have CIA assets.
	We're not talking about the psychs.
	We're not talking.
	Yeah, and they're not taking them down.
	They're just getting a piece of the pie.
	Operations.
	They're just getting a piece of the pie.
	That's what we talked about.
	They're just getting a piece.
	They're not doing anything for the American people.
	They're not stopping the fentanyl coming in.
	There's more drugs that come in now than ever before in history.
	Listen, I understand everything.
	You're going to beat that.
	I think you're going to be able to do that.
	Do you remember Dan Bontino for six years?
	Cash Patel for the last four years?
	All the things that they said.
	Do you remember their words?
	Because I think that's the thing.
	All the people that are upset, remember everything that they said.
	If I was in, I would do this.
	If I was in, I would do this.
	You know, I have to point out that there are levels of classification and secrecy that if they violate, they go to prison themselves.
	Okay, so they're basically like politicians.
	Words don't matter.
	That's what it comes down to.
	Words don't matter.
	Words don't matter.
	No, no, it's like this.
	You're a private citizen and you can say whatever you want because you're not under the constraint of the National Security Act that dictates that when you are given classified top secret materials, you cannot disclose them publicly.
	Otherwise, you yourself face incarceration and punishment.
	They shouldn't have said anything.
	They shouldn't.
	They didn't know.
	They didn't know.
	They hadn't been Read in yet?
	So they were speaking out of ignorance almost.
	And now they know and can't because they're constrained.
	You're giving everybody a pass.
	I'm not giving them a pass.
	I'm just going to go.
	I agree with you.
	They should all come out and violate their secret oaths and their constitutional oaths and tell us everything.
	I agree.
	They should do it.
	I'm not going to jail if they do it.
	So yeah, they should do it.
	Anyway, stay tuned.
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	I absolutely think the world of Eric he is an amazing listener and when he calls in he has always got such great things so I can't thank him enough for calling in.
	I know he had to jump off but that was a great conversation and I hope it was you know came off as cordial.
	I really he made some great points and and I agree with him strongly in so many ways.
	I think the only thing we kind of disagree on is how you go about fixing it and what constraint level there is on what can be said or done about it.
	And that's, you know, and that's, I mean, man, I feel I feel like it's almost like I feel like I'm the one defending some of these actions.
	But at the end of the day, I'm just trying, again, to adjust expectations to reality.
	You know, I mean, if you have unrealistic expectations, yes, you're always going to be disappointed.
	And a lot of the expectations that we've established, and I'm not saying I'm innocent of this, because I've probably over the past, in the past, established these expectations myself of full disclosure and transparency.
	Yes, it's ideal.
	It's what we want.
	It would be if we had lived in a fair and just world where everything was, you know, everybody did the right thing, we would have that full disclosure.
	But we live in a world where, as Dostoevsky said, tolerance will reach such a level that intelligent people will be banned from thinking so as to not offend the imbeciles.
	You know?
	That's the world we live in.
	Unfortunately, for better or worse.
	But even beyond that, like I was saying, and I was trying to lay out, the whole system works in this balancing act where you have to balance legal and ethical accountability versus operational secrecy, national security threat mitigation.
	And this is how the justifications are made for why the information isn't released.
	It's very easy to say, oh, well, it's because Israel told them not to say anything.
	And maybe there's a key component within the decision made that includes, or certainly there probably is with the Epstein stuff, that includes Israel.
	But again, Israel is facing conflict on a much larger scale with its neighbors in the Middle East.
	And if the United States' best interest is to avoid that conflict, then, again, this is where you get into the mitigation of risk to national security.
	Is it in our best interest To have another giant war in the Middle East?
	Probably not.
	And then the balance comes in.
	Where is it like, is convicting all of Jeffrey Epstein's compatriots, you balance that against a war that will kill hundreds of thousands, if not millions, in the Middle East?
	I mean, and I know it's bad.
	I hate it.
	I don't want.
	Do you think this is why I'm glad I'm not the president?
	I don't want to make these decisions.
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	Caller, you're on the air.
	What's up, brother?
	Good morning, Greg.
	How you doing, brother?
	Oh, man.
	You know, it's good morning.
	And I really have enjoyed the callers so far, the caller.
	So I'm sure this is going to be just as good.
	Not to set high expectation for you, but please, what do you got for us today, Kevin?
	Well, I have to say, first of all, Eric, I love his passion.
	Yeah, me too.
	I love it.
	He is very passionate, and I really enjoy talking to him.
	And he's a great guy.
	He's also a truck driver, isn't he?
	I believe so, yeah.
	Yeah.
	Who knows?
	I may meet him on the road here one day.
	That'd be great.
	Yeah, that'd be cool.
	However, you know, he's wanting all the beans spilled.
	And, you know, I understand that once you're read in to, like, director of the FBI, the second at FBI, when you're read in and then you're shown classified information, if you divulge that in any way, they could probably be charged with treason.
	Yeah, definitely.
	Well, there's definitely some harsh penalties for it.
	Yes.
	But I'm reminded of Luke chapter 8, verse 17.
	For nothing is secret that shall not be made manifest, neither anything hid that shall not be known and come abroad.
	All these secrets are going to come out.
	It doesn't matter who's the director of the FBI or CIA.
	When it's time for those to come out, God will reveal those things.
	I agree.
	I mean, and that's, thank you for giving the sort of scriptural context there because, you know, it's so easy to get, you know, wrapped up in the things that are of this world and forget that, you know, there is an eternal God that is so almighty and powerful that, you know, all of these things that are dark will be made light.
	And regardless of whether we get the full, you know, if our in our lives we don't find the full truth, there will be a full truth given, an account given at judgment that we all must face.
	And, you know, I think we should always temper ourselves with that understanding because at the end of the day, you will drive yourself mad if you, it's like the definition of insanity if you keep having the same expectation and the same, you know, results, you know, you're doing the same thing, expecting a different result, I should say.
	So we got to temper ourselves in that, the word, and the understanding that God is in control.
	And these evil people, they will be repaid tenfold, a hundredfold, a thousandfold what the evil they reap into this world.
	They'll sow it.
	So I would say that there's reason to take solace in that knowledge alone.
	But, you know, again, it was to Eric's point earlier that he was saying, you know, we as Christians should be, you know, fighting against this because we are commanded to.
	And I agree.
	And I think we should rebuke it in all of its forms.
	But again, vengeance is mine, says the Lord.
	And we can only do so much.
	We have to be humble enough to leave and have the humility to leave room for God's judgment and to understand there are certain things that are outside of our control.
	Now, perhaps we can talk about it and bring light to it and protest, or there are other things that people in other positions of power can do.
	But understanding your own limitation in that regard, and I think admitting and submitting to the sovereignty of God is what I try to do as well as have an understanding of it all.
	The best thing anyone can do is put it in God's hands.
	He will handle it.
	He has a plan.
	He's had a plan since he created us.
	And when, you know, this information, whatever it may be, when it's ready to be brought to the light, trust me, it will be brought to the light.
	I agree.
	And there are people out there who aren't happy with that.
	And I understand the frustration.
	But as a believer, that's what I believe.
	And I know you believe it too.
	And I'm pretty sure that if Eric were here, he would agree with that in so much as to say that, you know, we are all going to be submitting before the sovereignty of God, and there are things that are out of our control, and this may be one of them.
	But I agree.
	I mean, it's frustrating as a believer, and it is something that you can feel righteous indignation toward and rebuke, and as I like to say, rebuke evil in all of its forms, which is, you know, commanded through scripture.
	So I think there is that understanding, the spiritual understanding, which is eternal.
	And then there's the temporal understanding, which is like what's of the world and where we're at and trying to understand and make sense of it on a purely, you know, human level.
	And a lot of this stuff you're never going to be able to make sense of because it is, as it was written in scripture, you know, evil has existed since the dawn of man and Adam and the first sin, you know, with Eve.
	So we've been in this sin state for that long.
	And great points, though, Kevin.
	Thank you for chiming in and giving us that spiritual perspective.
	Anytime, brother.
	Eric, have patience.
	It's all going to work out.
	Just remember, our good friend Nick No reminds us every week, God wins.
	Amen, brother.
	I couldn't be more appreciative for that phone call.
	Thank you, Kevin.
	We'll talk to you later, and we'll come back after the break and get into some more news stories.
	So everybody, keep it locked in.
	You're listening to Justin Form Talk Radio.
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	And I wanted to break down something from earlier because we listened to a clip earlier in the show, and I wasn't able to fully break it down because there were some interesting things that were there.
	So let's do that, and then we'll talk about the Comey and Brennan criminal investigation that's dropped, and we'll get into some other stuff.
	So I told you before that let's replay, just for context, Pam Bondi's response to the question about whether or not Epstein was an asset of the FBI or an asset of the intelligence agencies and why they implicated they had this client list and then they said they didn't.
	Listen to this.
	Sure.
	First to back up on that, in February, I did an interview on Fox, and it's been getting a lot of attention because I said, I was asked a question about the client list, and my response was, was, it's sitting on my desk to be reviewed, meaning the file, along with the JFK MLK files as well.
	That's what I meant by that.
	Also, to the tens of thousands of video, they turned out to be child porn downloaded by that disgusting Jeffrey Epstein.
	Child porn is what they were.
	Never going to be released, never going to see the light of day.
	To him being an agent, I have no knowledge about that.
	We can get back to you on that.
	And the minute missing from the video, we released the video showing definitively the video was not conclusive, but the evidence prior to it was showing he committed suicide.
	And what was on that, there was a minute that was off the counter.
	And what we learned from Bureau of Prisons was every year, every night, they redo that video.
	It's old from like 1999.
	So every night the video is reset.
	And every night should have the same minute missing.
	So we're looking for that video to release that as well, showing that a minute is missing every night.
	And that's it on Epstein.
	That's it on Epstein.
	No further questions.
	Again, I agree with Eric and Owen Schroyer and whoever else in that this was like, could not have been a more bumbling, stumbling way of addressing this.
	Like, first of all, she's like, to address your question, I basically said that just the files on my desk, not a client list, that definitely never existed, even though I insinuated did.
	And all those videos were stuff he downloaded off the internet.
	It wasn't him actually abusing these children.
	Okay, so like those first two things, you can reasonably be like, all right, I understand.
	Perhaps it's true, right?
	Perhaps it's true.
	But then she gets into some other stuff where she starts talking about how, well, as far as him being an agent, I have no idea about that.
	I'll get back to you.
	Yeah, I'm not going to hold my breath on that one.
	Because as we've established here in this show with the evidence being circumstantial but very strong, the likelihood he was an asset of intelligence is nearly in the 99.9% range, right?
	Almost certain.
	And then she, and then, and so like that is what I've been talking about this whole show.
	It's the operational secrecy versus a national security mitigation versus, or threat mitigation versus the legal and ethical accountability and that balance.
	They've made, it seems like they've made the decision.
	Epstein's, the national security threat posed by the truth about Epstein and his operation and the people involved far outweighs the legal accountability they have to the law.
	And they've made the decision in sort of a triage fashion, you know, that it's just not going to be released.
	That's what it seems like.
	And again, as I've said, and I was saying earlier, like at this point, we have the whole story, essentially.
	For all intents and purposes, we know who Abseem was.
	We know who he was working for.
	We know what he was doing.
	We know who he was working with.
	We know who was going to his islands or his island.
	We know who he was, you know, working on behalf of, what he was doing, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
	So we know.
	The disclosures happened.
	They told us.
	They told us or we extracted the information through FOIA or whistleblowers or whatever.
	So they've basically just made the decision that public trials would open doors to things that would create threats to national Security that they can't allow to happen.
	Because, as much as it would, you would do a cost-benefit analysis, and as cold and as heartless as that sounds, the cost-benefit analysis to use an economic term is, you know, would it cost us more than it would benefit us from our sources and methods,
	operational security, national security threat mitigation, versus the legal accountability, the ethical accountability, and the victims justice, victims who are seeking justice.
	Would it create more victims, essentially, than it would serve the public good to have full accountability?
	And they've made that decision.
	I'm not saying I made that decision, by the way.
	I'm not saying this was like my, I concocted this on my own and thought, or I'm advocating that this is the right decision.
	Because again, what I think all of us listening here, most of us at least, surely, can agree on is that none of us have been read in on the full breadth and depth of the things that are disclosed when you are read into compartmentalized, classified, top secret programs and operations and cases, right?
	So there's that.
	They've made that determination.
	That's what they're sticking with.
	I think everybody out there online, like Alex Jones crying about it, I think people are just throwing a tantrum.
	And you know what?
	Fair enough.
	I'm pissed too.
	I think we should have full disclosure.
	But again, I'm not read into all of it.
	So I don't know what the second, third, fourth order effect is, what the threat to national security is, all of that.
	I don't know it.
	Because a lot of people always assume that it's just corrupt politicians covering themselves.
	And that may be the case, but it may not be the case.
	And finally, we have a caller calling in.
	I want to get to it, but I want to address this final point before, because I've been trying to address this all show, and I keep getting callers.
	The whole point about, she says, there is a 60-second gap in the tape that happens every night between 1159 and 12.01 that the prison is a part of their system for surveillance.
	And she says it like it's so matter of fact, like, we're going to get you a tape to prove that every night at midnight, there's a minute missing from every security tape.
	So you're telling me there's a vulnerability that can be exploited that anybody who worked at the prison could know, right?
	I mean, I mean, that's what I'm reading from that is she's saying that Epstein could have been extracted from his cell at midnight and nobody would know any better.
	They had 60 seconds to do it.
	And we're not going to be able to prove or disprove what happened in that 60 seconds.
	So there you go, folks.
	All the people who say Jeffrey Epstein's still alive, there was a 60-second window that happens every night that not only did the prison guards know about, but surely if you were in any intelligence agency and you wanted to get him out of the cell, you would know at 11.59.59, the tape stops and resets, which gives you a 60-second window to walk by the camera, open his cell door, walk him out of his cell, shut the door, and then there you go.
	Okay, let's go to the caller.
	Caller, you got a couple minutes.
	What do you got for us?
	Morning.
	Love the show.
	So I guess from the public point of view, we might be looking at something that I don't know.
	There might be three options here.
	Possibly, you know, the Trump administration folded to Deep State and they're giving all in.
	Another option would be possibly the Trump side has this list, has the information, and they're holding it to help them in the long run when it comes to other extortion stuff going on.
	And I guess one thing that we could probably look at as well is a list probably won't hold up in court without concrete evidence behind it.
	There's going to be like, this is just a list.
	What else do you have behind it?
	So I guess there's just a few questions maybe you could bring up and help us all understand a little bit better.
	Yeah, I thank you.
	I appreciate that.
	I'll try to address each one of those things.
	I mean, when we come back, I'll address them all.
	But just briefly, yes, there's a list.
	Yes, there is two options where Trump's in on it or he's using it.
	There's also a third option that you were going to say, which I think I know, which I'll talk about when we come back.
	But we got a break.
	I'll try to collect my thoughts on that.
	And if you want to hang on and reiterate the question on the other end of the break, that'd be great.
	If not, that's okay.
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	Come back.
	Welcome back, Just Form Talk Radio.
	I'm your host, Craig James.
	We have a caller online, and I'll bring him on in a second, but I want to reiterate what his question was.
	And then there was one, I want to make sure I'm getting it all right.
	But he said basically there were three ways of looking at what happened here.
	One is that Trump is compromised by this, and he's basically given in to the compromise, compromising material that's on the Epstein case, and that's why he's shut down the case.
	That's one option.
	The other option is that Trump's using that blackmail, which was insinuated, I think, by Alex Jones yesterday, where he said basically Trump's taking control of the blackmail and now he's using it as a way, a cudgel to beat into submission or into, you know, basically obedience the deep state at large.
	But I think that there's a third option which you didn't necessarily get to articulate fully, and that was that the evidence has been destroyed, and there is no case because previous administrations got rid of it, and you had people like Comey and Brennan who probably cleaned it up, and that that's why they have to come out with this omission, because they went digging for it, and there is no there there because the evidence was destroyed.
	Am I getting that right?
	And then there was one other thing you had mentioned, and I'm forgetting what it was, but am I getting it right for what the three scenarios are?
	Correct.
	I guess for the last portion that we're looking at, one question that could probably be brought to the light was on the island itself, when the raid happened, for some reason, FBI, CIA decided to leave the CDs with all the information and stuff on it.
	They left it there for some odd reason, and now it's just gone.
	So I think it would be more beneficial if they came out, let's just say the establishment came out and told the public, we have it, we're going to use it.
	There's incriminating stuff on there, you know, so let us do our thing.
	That would probably be a little more easing to the public compared to there's nothing there, there's nothing, we got nothing, that's that.
	So I think the public now is starting to make everybody feel better, right?
	To be like, oh yeah, we got the black man.
	We're using it against these evil people.
	I doubt that would ever happen for a number of reasons, legal, ethical, otherwise.
	But, okay, good points.
	Good points.
	Let me address each of those if you don't mind.
	But thank you for the call.
	Appreciate it.
	Yes, sir.
	Thank you.
	All right.
	God bless.
	Now, all right.
	So we've had a lot of calls and it's great.
	You guys, I mean, you guys have been calling all day today.
	This show is a good one.
	I love when you guys get engaged and call.
	You guys make this show better.
	You're always texting.
	Every day I get so many texts.
	It's crazy.
	I'm always thankful for that.
	The text line is always blowing up.
	But today I like the calls and I like the thoughts.
	So this is important.
	So there are three options of how you can see what happened here.
	Let's go over each one.
	Now, I'm not going to tell you what to think, right?
	Because whichever one you believe, that's an individual thing.
	If you believe one versus the other or the others, that's going to be up to you.
	I'm not even going to tell you necessarily what I believe other than I'll tell you what I think sounds most logical.
	So the first option is that Trump's compromised, right?
	Which I know a lot of people believe.
	They believe that Trump is compromised and that that is what is driving his decision making with regard to the Epstein case because he is a friend of Epstein's and that, you know, he was an associate and they were in the same sphere of influence in Palm Beach.
	And they have this overlapping sort of social circle and that that is proof in and of itself that Trump is compromised.
	So what I would say to that is, quite simply put, I have reason to believe that I can't necessarily explain fully because it would take too long and some of it's private personal stuff.
	But I have reason to believe that that's not the case.
	And as many have pointed out, which I sort of agree with to a degree, that if they had that evidence, they would have selectively released that particular part of it.
	And some people would say that no, they wouldn't because they would hold it back and use it for blackmail of Trump, which I'm not going to say I closed the door on entirely because that would be foolish of me to do.
	But I would say that from my perspective, given everything Trump's done up to this point, it stands to reason that that's not the case.
	And if that were the case, then why would they try to kill him, right?
	But then, and then you get in all these wild conspiracies about, oh, well, the bullets weren't real and Corey comparatory is not dead or he was sacrificed.
	I don't know.
	Okay.
	Not going to get in all that because you have to go down a lot of rabbit holes, make a lot of assumptions, and it takes a lot to get to that conclusion, right?
	But I don't think that's likely.
	But if you believe it, I understand why.
	The second one is what Alex Jones put out yesterday, which is that Trump's taken control of this blackmail, and now he himself is using it to basically extort and control the deep state that's been trying to destroy him for so long.
	And him publicly coming out and saying that it doesn't exist is like basically signaling to them, like, hey, I have this.
	We're going to make it go away if you play ball with me.
	But basically leaving open the door that we can bring this back and say new evidence has come to light and we can flush you all down the toilet if we want.
	So play ball or else.
	I also think that's less likely just because, again, the legal and ethical side is take that out of the equation, right?
	Because legally and ethically, that would be crazy.
	But again, it would just be them playing the same games that they play on each other.
	It wouldn't be that crazy, I guess.
	But I highly doubt that.
	Well, I don't say highly doubt.
	I doubt it because, again, in that scenario, you have to make a lot of assumptions and you have to make a lot of jumps to conclusions that to me, oftentimes I do subscribe to sort of the Occam's razor approach, which is that the simplest answer is the most likely answer, right?
	And that leads us to the third option, which is that the evidence was destroyed.
	Now, and that that's what Trump has uncovered.
	I think that's the most likely scenario that we're facing here.
	I do.
	And I know that that doesn't make people happy because it's not as salacious and it's not as, you know, it's not as soap opera-y and it's not like the movie where the plot twist comes.
	But I think that in and amongst the chaos of the first term of Trump and the preceding term, the Obama term, they were able to obtain this evidence and that even if they had held it for blackmail for their own purposes,
	let's say, that there had to have been a point at which they came or point to which they came where they said, if we hold on to this any longer, then we're implicated, right?
	And this is why I think this might be the big signal that we're getting from the FBI.
	They've just launched a criminal investigation into John Brennan and James Comey the day, like it is no coincidence to me that the day after, or the two days after they give you this memo saying there's nothing to see, there's no there there, there's no client list, there's no evidence, that two days after that, the FBI comes out and says, oh, and by the way, we've opened a criminal investigation into John Brennan and James Clapper.
	It's again, it's just like, you know how they, I've said, like, what do you want to know about Epstein that we don't already know?
	It's the same thing here.
	It's like, what do you want to know about Brennan and Comey that we don't already know?
	So why are they opening this investigation if not for the reason of saying, hey, we wanted to go after Epstein.
	We wanted to go after his network.
	We wanted the clientless.
	But when we went to look, there was no there.
	And we think this evidence was destroyed in the same way that they set up Trump for the Russia collusion thing.
	That's what I'm reading.
	And again, Occam's razor.
	I don't have to jump to any conclusions on that one.
	It's pretty simple.
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	Welcome back to Just Form Talk Radio.
	I'm your host, Craig James.
	And, you know, so I want to address the final point the caller made, which was he had mentioned that, you know, that it seemed as though there was evidence that was on the island when they did the raid and that they ended up leaving on the island and that that was suspicious.
	And I would just say to that, that kind of also, I guess, lends itself more toward the evidence was destroyed or the evidence was taken by who knows?
	Like, think of it this way.
	The evidence doesn't necessarily even have to be destroyed as much as it could have just been removed or the chain of custody could have been broken on it.
	It's as simple as that, which makes it inadmissible in court, which makes it basically like it doesn't exist, right?
	So all that Comey and Brennan would have had to do, not even, they wouldn't even have had to have stolen the evidence, okay?
	All they would have had to do, again, is just broken the chain of custody on the evidence, and that could have in and of itself basically derailed any hope of having a case brought against this guy, right?
	So, and then, and then you can't just disclose that evidence because it's fruit of the tainted tree, and it's like it wouldn't even, it wouldn't even help for public, whatever.
	So that's, that's what I would say about that.
	But we have a bunch of text messages.
	I want to address them all because, my gosh, you guys, you guys are active today.
	You're calling, you're texting.
	This is like, this is very awesome.
	You guys do make this show better.
	I hope you know that.
	Let's see.
	Let's go to the first ones.
	Let's see.
	Somebody said that this was a long time ago.
	I'm apologizing.
	I'm just getting to it.
	This was from like an hour ago or a little over an hour ago.
	They said it's like denying the Holocaust, etc.
	It really happened.
	Yeah, I think the Holocaust really happened.
	I never said I, I don't, I think people deny it.
	I don't believe in them.
	Now, was it exaggerated?
	That's up to you to decide.
	The numbers, you know, all that stuff, I don't get into all that because it's kind of a lose-lose battle.
	It's just, you know, but I do think that there were really heinous things done by the National Socialists in Germany.
	Yeah, we can all agree on that, I would hope, at least.
	Beyond that, though, somebody said from the 307, they said, good radio, Craig.
	The man has points.
	So do you.
	I think that was made in reference to Eric when we were talking earlier.
	So kudos to you, Eric, for bringing it today.
	That was a great, and to Kevin and to the other caller.
	Thank you guys.
	We appreciate that.
	Somebody said there was a movement to reform about a decade ago, a decade before the revolution.
	The reform failed and many were killed and jailed.
	You cannot reform a tyrannical government, especially when compromised by a foreign entity that has no care for the American citizen.
	Trump is just proving there cannot be a reformation.
	So I understand that point, and that's a good point.
	And so, you know, I'm not sure how they meant that comment to be taken because, you know, when you're in text, it's hard to perceive.
	But if nothing else, you could give Trump credit for that.
	He's at least proving that trying to reform the system legally and lawfully is a near impossible task.
	Now, does that mean it's not a worthwhile endeavor?
	That would be up to you to decide on an individual basis.
	But he is pulling the veil back on just how broken the system is, if nothing else.
	So that's an interesting point.
	Our friend Henry from God's Feeding Station said, God plays the long game and his timing and his ways are not our timing and our ways.
	Romans 2, 7 through 8, to those who by patience and well-doing seek for glory and honor and immortality, he will give us eternal life.
	But for those who are self-seeking and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, there will be wrath and fury.
	I agree 1,000% with that.
	That those who seek this unrighteousness and try to thrive in it or with it, they will only be sowing the seeds of their own destruction, ultimately.
	And that is in this life or the next, whichever comes first.
	You can bet your bottom dollar on that.
	Somebody said if Trump was compromised, he wouldn't be president.
	Okay.
	You know, it's a simple thought, but it's a simple thought to have, I guess.
	But I tend to agree with that as well.
	I think they would have gotten rid of him.
	There's really no reason to bring Trump back.
	They wanted to kill him.
	They wanted to destroy him.
	So I don't know.
	That's just my opinion.
	I know people disagree.
	Some.
	But somebody texted and said, the fact that Trump has settled $45 million in sexual assault cases against minors since 1989 shows Trump is one of the deep sea.
	So I would have to see the $45 million settlements of cases against minors.
	This is not something that I am aware of, and I would have to look at that on an individual basis and make a judgment based on the details of the case, who is involved.
	I mean, you're talking about, you know, how many rich people have cases that they settle out of court from people wanting to get money from them, especially celebrities and famous people and rich people.
	So is there any truth to it?
	I don't know.
	And again, nobody's ever said Trump's a saint.
	We know about his indiscretions.
	We know about his multiple marriages.
	There's never been this expectation that he is perfect.
	And the fact that there's a $45 million settlement.
	They're saying there's $45 million in sexual assault cases that have been settled.
	Again, I'd have to look at all that.
	Dozens of cases over decades, they just chime back in.
	But yeah, we'd have to look at him.
	And I've always said this in that regard, I always look at things on a case-by-case basis.
	So let's look at that in that form.
	But I can't just go off of general vagaries.
	As they would say, vagaries, that's a good old-timey word, if you want to use that.
	Weren't there also two guards who conveniently had fallen asleep the night Epstein died?
	Have they been interviewed?
	That was the final comment.
	And yeah, I mean, and yeah, like the official story was so terrible to begin with with Epstein.
	But like I said before, there was a 60-second gap in the film that the Attorney General Pam Bonnie just said existed that everybody would have known about to be able to exploit.
	So the guys get caught off duty.
	The CIA, whoever shows up with either a hit squad or an extraction squad, Epstein's either dead or in witness protection because they had a 60-second window to remove him from his cell.
	And they're going to, well, we gave you seven hours minus 60 seconds, so that's good enough.
	All right.
	Stay tuned.
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	Today's no different.
	We're going through 1 John, which, you know, this is a letter that was written by John, one of Jesus' disciples, or at least that's what is agreed upon mostly historically.
	And we're getting to this part in 1 John chapter 2 where he's talking about the reasons he's writing this letter.
	And I love the way he frames this.
	And I want to share this with you.
	This is 12, 13, and 14.
	Verse 12, 13, and 14.
	Let's read it.
	It says, I am writing to you, little children, because your sins have been forgiven because of Jesus' name.
	I am writing to you, fathers, because you have come to know the one who is From the beginning, I am writing to you, young men, because you have had victory over the evil one.
	I have written to you, children, because you have come to know the Father.
	I have written to you, fathers, because you have come to know the one who is from the beginning.
	And I have written to you, young men, because you are strong.
	God's word remains in you, and you have had victory over the evil one.
	Think of that.
	Think of what he's saying there.
	He's basically saying that he's writing these words because the battle's been won.
	So these words are an encouragement to us to do what our Lord and Savior Jesus commanded us to do.
	He commanded his disciples and thereby, through them, us as well, to take courage and know the battle is won.
	The victory was won at Calvary.
	God gave his only son to die for our sins.
	And if you get up every day with that in your heart, none of this stuff that's in this world can bring you down.
	Sure, you know, we can all have moments, but if you ultimately carry that with you, there's a light that'll burn inside of you.
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	But it starts with a relationship with our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
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	And if you have accepted it, take these words as encouragement.
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