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I'm your host, Craig James.
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We have a lot to cover here.
We're going to get into some of the stories.
I mean, the big story still is the Epstein story.
You know, there are just so many holes in it all.
If this were a ship, it'd be at the bottom of the Atlantic, as they say.
But, you know, what's interesting is I found a thread to all of this that I think makes a lot more sense than a lot of the other theories that I'm hearing bounce around on the internet, that is.
Of course, you know, I've heard everything from, you know, Trump's in on it and this is the big cover-up, which seems less likely to me to, you know, the evidence was already destroyed, so there was nothing to find anyway.
But I found some information that I think gives much better context to what actually is happening here, and I'll share that with you here in just a bit.
And it has a lot to do with the CIA, and it has a lot to do with the history of Jeffrey Epstein and his connections to the CIA, which a lot of this information I'm sure a lot of you out there were not probably aware of, or you are aware of in part but not full.
So I'm going to get you that information, but I want people to understand one thing.
The United States is connected to the rest of the world.
And with that in mind, you have to understand that by default, if certain intelligence gets released, it could cause worldwide chaos and mass suffering.
And Although we should want to get to the information, the truth about any of these things, we should also keep that in mind, as I've said for years now, literally, that the national security component to all of this has to be taken into account.
And I know people don't like that.
I don't like it.
I don't like it that people are put in positions of power who are bad people who do bad things.
I don't like that.
I don't like that people are hurting children.
I think that's evil and wrong.
And I think anybody who is engaged in it should suffer the consequence of their actions.
But I do understand also that oftentimes what will happen with these people who are engaged in a lot of these bad things, evil things, is that they entrench themselves within systems so deeply and so profoundly that the implication of their guilt,
even the implication alone of their guilt, could be earth-shattering, you know, disastrous, chaotic.
Could bring on a full and total destruction.
Now, I understand there are some people out there who are like, all right, yeah, burn, let it burn.
The system's broken.
It's corrupt.
You know, it needs to be destroyed anyway.
But I've always said this, and I'll always say it.
You have to take into account A, the collateral damage, you know, and the innocent people who will have their lives destroyed because of some evil person's actions.
So you're basically, you would be essentially signing off on creating more chaos and suffering for innocent people to essentially take justice upon a single individual or a group of individuals who, again, should not be allowed to get away with these things.
I'm not advocating for that, but ultimately were allowed to get away with things and to put themselves in positions where if they are found out or caught,
it would become a sort of dead man's switch for them if they were to go to face trial in a public setting and have the full breadth of the dirty laundry aired for full public consumption.
And I mean, I understand there are people who listen who think this is not right, this is evil, this is wrong, it's not fair.
And I say yes, I agree 100%.
I agree 1,000%.
It makes me sick to my stomach to think of the things that people will get away with under the, and be protected from prosecution under the auspice of defending and protecting national security.
But I mean, you see this in movies all the time, right?
This isn't like a theme that we're not, I mean, perhaps it's predictively programmed into us to be desensitized to this reality to a degree.
But at the same time, you have to consider that with everything we know about how the world works, you know that our enemies are doing the same, if not worse.
So it's not like we're the only ones engaging.
And I'm not saying that, again, as some sort of justification or excuse for these things to take place.
But if you think all of our enemies are not doing the Jeffrey Epstein operation and then some, then, you know, I think that's, personally, I think that's a naive thought to have.
And I'm not saying that, you know, again, that any of this should be excusable, but you have to take a second and remember that there are lives at stake and that each decision that's made, particularly when it comes to, let's say, just particularly the Epstein case, but in so many different other cases, there are decisions that have outcomes.
And there has to be a certain level of containability that goes along with accountability.
Because what happens if you have a scenario where things are uncovered that create, again, a threat to national security?
And you know, it's sad because they do it on purpose that way.
They do two things.
In a lot of these intelligence operations, they A, build plausible deniability in before they do anything so that in any circumstance they can plausibly have the deniability to say we weren't involved, right?
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And again, they're playing more dangerous games anyway.
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And we've seen that probably more times than we know when people end up dead or people end up missing or people end up in other compromising positions.
So when we come back, I want to play a clip that's kind of the backstory of Epstein that gives full context to why I would imagine they've decided not to Go forward with the releasing of the files.
And it has everything to do with the CIA, it has everything to do with Iran, and it has everything to do with Israel, and it has everything to do with the controllers' games and their money men.
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I'm your host, Craig James, and we're going to get right into it.
Here's the truth about Jeffrey Epstein, if you want to know it.
Here's the full truth.
Epstein was not just a man running a blackmail ring for intelligence services.
That was not his only profession.
His actual profession, his original profession, before he probably developed a taste for that kind of thing, living the lifestyle of, you know, a man who was doing the things he was doing, was he was a money man, a fixer for weapons, arms dealers connected to the CIA.
And then he ingratiated himself with people inside of the offshore banking world where corporations and intelligence agencies had a propensity to hide money and put it in shell companies and Cayman Island accounts, as we all know commonly is the kind of archetypal scheme.
So listen, I have this clip, Mike Benz, explaining the history of Jeffrey Epstein.
And I think this is, you want to know why the Epstein client list disappeared or whatever.
You want to know why he's probably either actually dead or in some witness protection program thing or whatever it is.
You want to know why they're not going to touch this.
It's not just because, it's because, listen, the evidence is in classified documents that cannot be disclosed to the public because they were all involved in CIA-backed operations and money laundering operations and obfuscating government oversight operations with money laundering.
So I want to play this clip because I think it so clearly explains what is actually happening here.
If you can put the pieces together with this, then it becomes fully transparent.
Listen to this.
Describe what you think.
I mean, I'm assuming some of this is theory because we're never going to know.
But what do you think Epstein was to the CIA?
Well, I think Epstein was working with the CIA in the early 1980s at the very start of his career after he left Bear Stearns.
In 1981, right after leaving Bear Stearns, Jeffrey Epstein created a one-person for-profit company in his one-bedroom New York apartment.
It was called the Intercontinental Assets Group.
And it held itself out as an international bounty hunter for high-net worth individuals to both recover money and shield money internationally.
So the right of way, in 1981, he starts this company that basically that helped royalty and high-net worth individuals basically recover loan debts or assets owed to them that were held in cryptic offshore bank accounts, as well as helping them structure their own assets in a way that would make it difficult or impossible for others to collect those assets.
And in 1982, just one year into that, he got a fake passport, an Austrian passport listing his residence as Saudi Arabia.
This is a fake passport.
This was recovered by the FBI in 2019 when they drilled a hole in Jeffrey Epstein's safe and recovered this, prosecutors held this passport up at the Ghillain Maxwell trial.
Now, this fake passport was so good that it was able to go through four different country checkpoints.
It had a false name, Jeffrey Epstein's photo, so that he could get back and forth.
And why Saudi Arabia?
Well, because Jeffrey Epstein, one of his main clients for the group that he set up in 1981, was Adnan Khashoggi.
Adnan Khashoggi was the CIA arms runner for the Iran-Contra affair when Congress blocked the U.S. federal government through a congressional law called the Bolin Amendment, with the Democrats controlling the House of Representatives, banning any U.S. funds from being directed to the overthrow of the Nicaraguan Sandinista government.
And the Reagan White House and National Security Council and Central Intelligence Agency wanted to do it anyway, they were left with a problem, which was that the CIA had been neutered during the Jimmy Carter years.
There have been prohibitions on the categories of covert activity it could do, and the Boland amendment from Congress blocked them from using U.S. aid funds or State Department funds to run the operation.
Enter Jeffrey Epstein and Adnan Khashoggi, his client.
During the Iran-Contra affair, which dogged the entire Reagan administration when all this came out, the U.S. was selling arms together with Israel to Iran, which is kind of ironic as the current geopolitics of Israel-Iran play out around missiles flying overhead earlier this month between those two countries.
Israel and the U.S. were selling weapons to Iran at that time through Adnan Khashoggi, the Saudi arms dealer, who had been working with the CIA for 30 years.
In fact, this all came out in formal under oath testimony from the Paris office of BCCI, which was the Bank of Credit and Commerce International, one of the largest banks in the world, which was effectively a CI proprietary bank for running arms to the Mujahideen when the CIA was creating the Islamo-terrorist network that would later become al-Qaeda and then ISIS.
Adnan Khashoggi was a client of that bank together with the CIA, and the head of the Paris branch said that Adnan Khashoggi personally told him that he was working for the Central Intelligence Agency, and Jeffrey Epstein was his money bundler.
This is at the height of the Cold War, mind you.
And so you see this relationship going back to the early 1980s.
In 1985, Jeffrey Epstein becomes linked up with Les Wexner in Columbus, Ohio.
Les Wexner was the head of what at the time was the largest retailer in the entire United States, Limited Brands, famous for Victoria's Secret and many, many others.
Les Wexner's tax attorney, Arthur Shapiro, was murdered in a gangland-style assassination in 1985, the day before he was set to testify in an IRS grand jury investigation.
The IRS had been looking into the Wexner Empire's finances and failure to, I think, file taxes for something like five years and seven years of investigation.
Arthur Shapiro, who ran that, was supposed to testify to the IRS grand jury just one day before he was gunned down.
It was right after that that Jeffrey Epstein appears to meet Les Wexner and then go on to have durable power of attorney over the entire Wexner enterprise.
It was then in 1993, Jeffrey Epstein personally negotiated the sale, the transfer of Air America, which would then become Southern Air Transport, a CIA proprietary airline, straight from Miami, where it got busted as part of the Iran-Contra gun trafficking and narcotics trafficking in order to run this illicit operation in Iran-Contra.
That very airline used Jeffrey Epstein was a critical part in the structuring of this CIA operation.
He then negotiated the transfer of that CIA airliner straight to Columbus, Ohio, where the Wexner Empire was based, for the primary purpose of transporting the limited cargo between Ohio and Hong Kong, which is another one of these narco-states.
Hong Kong was won by the British during the Opium Wars and has been kind of a lawless gun and drug-running zone ever since.
How does one get to be the financial bundler for the CIA's main illicit arms trafficker in the Middle East without having any scrutiny from the Central Intelligence Agency?
How does one personally negotiate the transfer of a CIA proprietary airline?
By the way, Southern Air Transport declared bankruptcy in Columbus, Ohio, the very day the CIA put out an acknowledgement of Air America's role in the gun running and narco trafficking in Iran-Contra.
Subsequent to that, the U.S. State Department personally made Jeffrey Epstein the tenant on the lease for one of the second largest residents in all of New York City.
This residence was seized from the government of Iran as the U.S. was putting sanctions on it and then personally leased out to Jeffrey Epstein.
How do you have the State Department as your personal landlord?
Do you think you or I, Jesse, could score something like that?
The State Department then ended up in a legal dispute with Jeffrey Epstein because Jeffrey Epstein subleased that apartment to the defense lawyer for the French Connection and Pizza Connection drug scandals, where you had CIA involvement in narco-trafficking that was effectively dealt, you know, hushed over in this trial through this very defense lawyer that Jeffrey Epstein then leased the State Department building seized from Iran from.
What I'm trying to communicate here is that every aspect of the Jeffrey Epstein story is part of the restructuring of intelligence work after the scandals of the 1970s when the CIA was barred from doing activity directly.
And that's when USAID came into the picture and took the baton from CIA and the NGO apparatus that we're now living under with the National Down for Democracy and Internews and the U.S. Agency for U.S. Institute of Peace and the web of private contractors and private financiers in order to be the frontmen for CIA operations.
Jeffrey Epstein was present at creation of that entire apparatus.
There is zero chance on God's green earth that there are no CIA files on this guy.
And the fact that this Justice Department has effectively pointed us to the FBI when this is a CIA job is not a good look for transparency.
Well, there you go.
And look, this kind of goes to what I was saying about you'll never know that, like, they're never going to tell you about it.
And I believe that the stuff that Epstein got into with the blackmail And the sex trafficking, it seems as though that was just his sort of, I don't know, I don't want to say hobby,
but he developed, I want to say he developed a proclivity toward it after he had already started this work, you know, as a money bundler and a finance, a financial, you know, sort of Sherpa for the intelligence agencies, helping, you know, guide them through this offshore banking industry and get them to the point that they needed for all these different, you know, operations that needed to be ran outs off the books.
Right.
And this is why the Epstein file will never go anywhere because at the end of the day, do you think the CIA wants to open or the federal government, anybody in any intelligence agency wants to open this can of worms?
Because like I said before, you have to understand the world is connected.
By default, certain intelligence cannot be released.
Otherwise, it would cause global chaos.
It would be like them saying, okay, well, yeah, let's get to the truth of Epstein.
Okay, well, he was money bundler for the CIA who developed an airline to traffic drugs and weapons around the world from Ohio with the guy who founded Victoria's Secret, who probably was the guy who got him into this whole sex trafficking world, right?
Because we know Les Wexner, when you follow that thread, it takes you into the whole model industry and where the Paris fashion shows and Rachel Chandler and you can go down that rabbit hole and find out where the kids were coming from, right?
And so this all is at play here.
And I think people like, you know, you watch these people online freaking out like, oh, they're Epstein.
They're not going to tell us about the Epstein files.
It's like, look, we already know.
I mean, that, what Mike Benz, I'm going to put my money on what Mike Benz just laid out there as the history of Jeffrey Epstein is why they will never, this is why Bongino gets to the FBI.
Patel gets to the FBI.
Bondi gets to the DOJ.
And they all look like, oh crap, the Epstein thing is untouchable.
I can't do anything about it.
And they've tried to play the people off.
And I think, honestly, what I think is happening here is that there's a lot at play, but think about it from this perspective too.
They want you to focus on the sex trafficking blackmail aspect of Jeffrey Epstein.
Because it's salacious.
Many people, you know, it's like when you watch one of those celebrity trials and you're kind of, you know, these people treat it like it's a soap opera.
You know, it gets people's attention.
And I'm not saying that this excuses what Epstein was doing.
Please do not misinterpret what I'm saying here.
I'm not saying that one thing is worse than the other or vice versa.
What I'm saying is they would much rather have you focus on this sort of vile, salacious story of sex trafficking and blackmail that plays out like some Tyler Perry movie,
as opposed to the moneyman, offshore banking Sherpa for CIA trying to obfuscate federal laws and work outside the framework and outsource work from CIA to these private entities.
So that's what it is.
But I don't know.
I'm just saying, stay tuned.
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And you know, what's interesting to me, you know, about the whole Epstein thing, and especially in watching people's reaction to it, is this whole idea that, you know, people are like, oh, we've been betrayed.
And I'm like, you know, I mean, what don't, like, first of all, let's work under the assumption Epstein's dead, okay?
Because, you know, if he's alive, he's probably in witness protection or something.
And either way, there's not going to be a public trial of Jeffrey Epstein, right?
There's never going to be a public trial of Jeffrey Epstein.
Let's just be clear about that.
So work under the presumption he's dead, right?
For all intents and purposes.
Well, what don't we have here that people want?
Now, I know what you're going to say.
The Epstein list.
I want the list.
I want to know who was visiting his island.
We need prosecutions for the people who were hurting children, abusing children with Epstein, right?
Probably Bill Clinton, many others, I'm sure.
Okay.
There is no way you can have those kind of trials without bringing all of this other stuff up.
And let me ask you this.
Let's take it to another level, right?
Let's presume that what Mike Ben said is true, that Jeffrey Epstein was a money bundler, money man.
You know, he helped the CIA obfuscate federal laws and basically helped them to be a place where the CIA could outsource, essentially, could outsource its work to obfuscate federal laws and other things, other restrictions, other ways that they were handcuffed, right?
And the development of the USAID program.
Let's presume that even, I mean, I don't know what the percentage would be, but let's just say a high percentage of the people who are visiting Epstein Island, who are friends with Epstein, were also cooperating with the CIA in other ways besides being, you know, diddling kids on this island.
Let's presume that those people who you want, who we, not you, we, I want this too, but I'm trying to lay this out, that we want to see prosecutor, let's say that they are working with the CIA in some form or fashion, whether it's helping to establish offshore banking accounts with Jamie Dimon and that.
Let's say Bill Gates was helping with some CIA networking security programs.
Let's say you go down the list, right?
All the people that we say were on it, Bill Clinton with the national security apparatus, all the people that Epstein was like bringing to his island to do these things with that we want to see prosecuted.
Let's presume they're all essentially assets of the central intelligence agency.
Are you starting to understand why Cash Patel and Dan Bongino and Pam Bondi and even Trump are, I mean, Trump to the larger degree has the authority, but how they recognize what the implication is.
Okay, so let's put Bill Gates on trial.
What's his defense going to be?
Oh, nothing.
Like, I mean, beside the fact that he's probably, he has access to the top legal minds and he's, you know, very wealthy and he can afford to, his trial would be a crazy thing.
I mean, how much of the trial, the public wouldn't even be able to see the trials?
Do you know what I mean?
The public would not even be able to see the trials because the information in the trials would be classified because Bill Gates is going to say, well, I was just working with Epstein because the CIA asked me to.
Because we were working on some network security stuff with Microsoft.
Or I was funding one of their offshoot programs with some of my money.
So this is why the Epstein stuff is such, it's a threat to a bigger thing that's never going to get uncovered.
Because to uncover the Epstein thing would be to pull the veil back on the entire sort of transplantation, is that the word?
Of the entire intelligence agency outsourcing its work into this private sector to avoid oversight from the federal government, which obviously since the 70s and the church committee and the findings that were there and then Jamie Carter, what Mike Benz was saying, how he gutted the CIA essentially and handcuffed them through Congress, that they had to do this.
They had to establish the USAID programs to outsource their work and then to get all of the money into this outside apparatus that was now being held in shell corporations on offshore accounts that were being run by people like Jeffrey Epstein or at least created and structured and that were being secured technologically by people like Bill Gates,
that were being covered up by people like Bill Clinton, that were being basically organized, operated, secured, and protected by all of the people who were going to Epstein Island that we want to see prosecuted.
So those people will never be prosecuted because it's not just about the blackmail that the CIA has on them.
Like, let's say it's not the blackmail, it's that they were already working with the CIA.
And again, their defense would be, well, you can come arrest me and put me on trial, but I'm going to tell them everything about our agreement and how you told me, you know, if I played ball, then I could basically get away with murder.
Anyway, looks like we have a caller.
Caller, you're on there.
What do you got?
Hey, good morning.
Blake from Arizona.
In my opinion, the whole Epstein thing was to capture the donor class, because if you capture the donor class, you've got everybody underneath of them.
Ryan Dawson on Rumble does a really good job.
And he does a deep dive.
And the way that he does his research is he went through all the testimony, and he calls out the people that were brought out in trials and everything.
So his theory is if you capture the donor class, you've got everybody underneath of them, which is a good concept.
May I interject?
I want to say this.
Look, you don't need to capture them if they're already cooperating.
Does that make sense?
If Bill Gates has already been tasked by the CIA to help develop network security through Microsoft for their offshore banking endeavors that fund the USAID programs that are their shell intelligence agencies that they use, then the blackmail is perhaps some, it's just a byproduct of it.
It's not that that wasn't the catalyst for it.
It was that they were already working.
The whole thing that Mike Benz just laid out is that they were all already working for the CIA.
You know what I mean?
So I think that you can miss the forest for the trees when you get focused like everybody else is on this blackmail thing because I think they want us focused on the blackmail thing because then we don't ask questions about all of the other stuff like what was laid out with the air the airplane, the airline that was in the Iran-Contra and then was bought by Les Wexner through Jeffrey Epstein that was running drugs and guns through Hong Kong and who knows where else.
So I think if I'm thinking out loud here that the blackmail is just almost like a distraction, but it's a byproduct of people who are very sick.
Anyway, Blake, I appreciate it.
Thanks for the call, brother.
I got to look into that.
Yeah, you compromise to control the individual.
And if you compromise, the clouds.
I got to go.
All right, buddy.
Yep.
Cheers.
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And so, I mean, so Blake called in and had a great point referencing the fact that, you know, the compromise, right?
The compromising material and how it works.
And I appreciate it, but I mean, I'm fully aware of how compromising material works.
And I'm fully aware of the implication that has been made and the insinuation or allegation that is out there about how these people have been blackmailed and then controlled.
But I think what people perhaps are missing, if I may be so bold as to suggest, is that the people being blackmailed are not these like helpless little children, if that makes sense, right?
Because oftentimes what I hear from these, in many cases, these more conservative influencers and media people, it's they'll be like, well, it clearly is the case that all of these people, Bill Clinton and Prince Andrew and Alan Dershowitz and Gislayton Maxwell and Leslie Wexner and the list goes on and on.
Bill Richardson, Jean-Luc Burnell and Kevin Spacey and all of these people, right?
They're saying Epstein was blackmailing them all, right?
Therefore, they were all assets of Epstein and this was all about control.
Okay, perhaps.
Perhaps.
I'm not saying it's impossible, but I'm also going to say that blackmail goes both ways.
And I would also say that not only does it go both ways, but again, to act as though these people, Bill Gates, Bill Clinton, and all these others, that they're like helpless, you know, oh, children in all of this.
They're not.
You don't become the richest man, one of the richest people in the world or the most powerful person in the world by being a helpless little child.
Okay?
And they fully understand and know how to play the game.
So what if it went more like this?
These guys start working for the intelligence agency in whatever form or fashion.
Again, whether it was helping with, you know, establishing network security protocols or offshore banking syndicates or national security apparatus protection, whatever it is, right?
And then they decide they have a proclivity toward doing these heinous things that Jeffrey Epstein eventually became a provider of that service.
I mean, you got to know that they would engage in those activities knowing or at least believing in their mind that they had the upper hand and that they had the control.
Right?
And I don't think that's a crazy thing to think that perhaps the people who are on this client list that we keep talking about, which we already know because we have, you know, the flight logs and we have the contact list, which is in Epstein's address book and all of this, right?
Perhaps those people thought they had dirt on Epstein and that he was doing what they wanted because he was compromised to them.
Has anybody ever thought of this angle of it?
Am I the first one to come up with this?
Because I hope not.
And that not only, I mean, you could go as far as to say that they probably thought they had the upper hand or else they would never have engaged in the things they did with him, allegedly.
And then you must ask the question, what did they think they had over Epstein that made them believe that they were untouchable?
Which obviously they are, or otherwise they would be under indictment now as we speak.
There is no reason why the people who were allegedly engaging in this blackmail operation with Epstein, there is no reason why they shouldn't be under indictment now unless they were right in their belief that they were untouchable and that they, in fact, were the people who had the upper hand in the blackmail exchange.
Is this all tracking?
I wonder.
Because to be quite honest, this is why nothing about the Epstein case makes sense.
This is why I think people who are not read in fully on this make these comments about how there's more there, there's more there, there's more there.
Cash Patel, Dan Bongino, to a lesser degree, Pam Bondi.
And then they get read into it, even Donald Trump.
And then they get read into it.
And all of a sudden they're like, well, you know, I don't know, maybe there's not really much there.
Why do you think they would say that?
They would say it because this is all about national security.
This is all about protecting the people who are working for the government who perhaps have blackmail on, who have the upper hand in this leverage game, right?
Because what is blackmail all about?
It's about leverage and control.
And again, whose name is on every headline right now?
It's not Bill Clinton.
It's not Bill Gates.
It's not Alan Dershowitz.
It's not any of the people that are on the lists or on the flight logs.
It's Jeffrey Epstein.
So at the end of the day, guess who had the lower hand in the leverage game in the blackmail operation?
The guy who's either dead or in witness protection program and his handler who worked for perhaps Mossad.
This is such a simple thing to understand.
Somebody just texted in and said this theory is all over the board.
Explain to me how this theory doesn't make sense.
Please.
Because I want to know.
This makes perfect sense to anybody who is, I mean, at least familiar with how these things go.
I feel like it makes perfect sense.
Anyway, what do I know?
Stay tuned.
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I want to take a second and clarify all of this.
Okay?
Because some people don't seem to get it, what I'm saying.
And I think, fair enough, I'll try to simplify this and put it in terms that are more easily understood.
The whole thing that's coming into question here is the client list.
Because that's what people want.
Why did the DOJ come out and the FBI come out and say there is no client list?
Why is Trump doubling down with Cashfell and Dan Bongino and Pam Bondi that there is no client list?
There are no people who are going to face indictments for engaging in the things that we allege that they are engaged with, with this black male sex trafficking operation that Epstein was running.
It's because black male goes both ways.
And as Blake from Arizona's point was that the standard operating theory is that Jeffrey Epstein was blackmailing people to control them.
But you asked, to what end was Epstein using this black male to control people?
And that's where a lot of people fall short.
Because they'll say he was doing it on behalf of Mossad.
Or they'll say he was doing it on behalf of the CIA.
Or he was doing it on behalf of both.
Okay.
But then to what end were those people being controlled?
We can make inferences, but we don't know exactly.
What I'm saying is the reason that there is no indictments against the people who were going to his island and doing these untoward things is because that the people on the list that we know exist, but now, now doesn't believed that they had the upper hand in the blackmail operation.
Now, what do I mean by that?
If you're a rich and powerful person, you do not engage in the behaviors and activities that have been described and attributed to Epstein Island willy-nilly.
You don't just go do it with anyone.
You would only engage in those behaviors with somebody you thought was either on your side, but you wouldn't even do that.
You would most likely do it with somebody who you thought you could control.
In the sense that if you're going to go commit a crime and you're the boss, let's say you're the most powerful rich person, you're not going to go just pick some random guy off the street.
You're going to pick one of your guys that you control, or at least that you believe you control, right?
Or that you have enough dirt on, and it's like mutually assured destruction.
If I have dirt on you and you have dirt on me, then we can, that's why when you enter a gang, they'll oftentimes have you go commit a crime and they'll watch you do it, say, okay, now we have evidence of you committing this crime.
You're in our gang now.
We're all criminals together.
So, my point is that the people on the list aren't being indicted, and the list is disappearing because those people had blackmail or control or leverage.
And where did that control or leverage come from?
The same place that Epstein had his, allegedly, which was these intelligence services.
So, what I'm saying is all of this is the reason why the Epstein list is disappearing because nobody wants to open this can of worms.
It's too much destruction, chaos.
Stay tuned.
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And I think I've done my best to try to explain this in a way that is simple for people to understand.
And to be quite honest, there is some people out there who want to, you know, ask questions.
And I think that's fine.
And I think I've explained it the best way I can.
So if it doesn't make sense, I apologize.
But ultimately, I believe what I laid out there makes good sense.
If you listen to what Mike Ben said and put that in context with what we know and why the client list isn't being released, it all should be pretty clear that the people who are being quote unquote compromised through blackmail that was manufactured by Jeffrey Epstein,
which people say the government is withholding, are, in my opinion, not as weak, innocent, or dumb as they are being portrayed by many people in the sort of social media influencer content creation media community.
I think that they are far more clever and far more dastardly, to use a fun word, than most people give credit to them for being.
And that it would only stand to reason that, you know, as I watch, the whole thing comes from me watching all these influencers, you know, cry about, I mean, Alex Jones was literally crying about this, about the F-Scene list not being released, which I think he knows very well why it's not being released.
I mean, he said it in no uncertain terms a number of times that these people are all connected to the CIA and that it's, you know, connected to the Mossad.
And I think oftentimes the conflation between the Mossad or the conflating of Mossad and CIA is intentional because, again, the CIA does not get involved in operations where they don't possess plausible deniability to explain away anything that could be considered blowback onto them, right?
So this is why they use these cutouts in USAID.
This is why they're more than happy to have the public believe that the Mossad is this all-powerful intelligence agency.
I'm not saying the Mossad is not a powerful intelligence agency, but that the lionization of the Mossad by especially conservative influencers is almost impressive in the way that they,
if the Mossad is everything these people say they are, it's like, wow, they're just the most powerful and powerful entity in the world, more powerful than the United States of America and our intelligence agencies, which I don't believe.
So call me naive.
Call me whatever you want.
You know, some people say you're an Israeli agent.
It's like, okay, there you go.
But I think that the CIA has every reason to play into that narrative, just like they play into the blackmail narrative, because they don't want you talking about Les Wexner,
and they don't want you talking about the airline that was operated by the CIA that was then sold and brokered through Jeffrey Epstein to Les Wexner, who was then using it for who knows what trafficking,
guns and drugs and people, children, for all kinds of nefarious purposes, probably to facilitate many operations run by the CIA through these USAID cutouts.
They would much rather have you talking about celebrities and politicians on an island and then associating that all with Mossad than connecting it to what it probably is most likely connected to, which is the CIA.
And look, again, I will say this very clearly.
Our enemies are doing this stuff, and I'm not even saying that as an excuse for why we do it, but that is the reasoning, I would imagine, behind a lot of these things is that we have to run drugs to, it's like why they, the whole thing with Iran-Contra and the Sandinistas and why they were running, you know, these guns down there and all this other stuff.
It's like they always have the justification of, you know, we have to stop communism or we have to stop the Chinese expansion or whatever, you know, We have to stop the destruction of the petrodollar.
There's always going to be a reason for them to do these things, right?
And there's always going to be a reason for them to get involved in it.
So, yes, they want the plausible deny built in.
They want you hyper-focused on Jeffrey Epstein.
They want you hyper-focused on the lionization of Mossad and this plausible deniability it creates for them to just go under the radar.
Oh, we're just the CIA.
We're just a bunch of bumpkins who don't know what we're doing.
Those Mossad guys, though, they really know their stuff and they've outsmarted us every single time.
Heck, they probably control us through their superior operating intellect.
And that's why their country is being bombed by Iran right now, and that they can't stop missiles from hitting key infrastructure and all that.
That's why they depend so heavily on the United States to subsidize all their work because they're so much superior, more superior in advance than us in Israel.
See, that's where it all falls short.
And so, you know, don't blame me.
I'm just the messenger.
You know, I don't have any.
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I want us to be a prosperous nation that ultimately puts Christ first above all things.
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And this is how I know that they want you to react this way is because CNN put together a montage of all the different conservative media figures from Alex Jones to Steve Bannon to everybody in between, essentially losing their mind over the whole Epstein memo that came out.
Listen to this.
This is supposed to be about the most transparent administration ever.
What on earth is going on?
Was Pam Bondi set up by deep state FBI career officials?
Is she stupid?
Is she so clickthirsty that she got out over her skis trying to make news in a Fox News star?
Pam Bondi, all of it, all those videos are saying, yeah, she's seen the videos, it's all coming out, and then now it doesn't exist.
I mean, what?
What?
The Jeffrey Epstein case, you do not know all the details of this thing, I promise.
There are a lot of really obviously powerful people.
This part you know, but the specific names we may not know.
There were so many individuals that were hidden and kept secret and not been held accountable.
What you're going to see, hopefully, tomorrow is a lot of flight logs, a lot of names, a lot of information.
The DOJ may be releasing the list of Jeffrey Epstein's clients.
Will that really happen?
It's sitting on my desk right now to review.
That's been a directive by President Trump.
So what happened to the Epstein client list that the Attorney General said she had on her desk?
Well, I think if you go back and look at what the Attorney General said in that interview, which was on your network on Fox News, John Roberts said, DOJ may be releasing the list of Jeffrey Epstein's clients.
Will that really happen?
And she said, it's sitting on my desk right now to review.
Yes, she was saying the entirety of all of the paperwork, all of the paper in relation to Jeffrey Epstein's crimes.
That's what the Attorney General was referring to, and I'll let her speak for that.
This seems like unforgivable behavior.
How could she give us those phase one binders that contains nothing while bragging about the cover sheet that she made, the most transparent administration in history, and tell us that the SDNY had the real goods, the binder was just proof of a deep state cover-up.
That was the real story she told us.
Only to now say, sorry, there's nothing.
If I'm President Trump, I wouldn't tolerate it.
She's a liability to him.
She's not worth it.
So that's the reaction from what people would say, like conservative ink or whatever, you know, this class of people that I was so graciously excused from in my early media career.
I was rubbing elbows with a lot of these people, and then it seemed as though when it turned out I wasn't, you know, able to be bought or blackmailed or whatever, they were like, yeah, no, we're not so interested in having you around anymore, which is fine.
I'm very happy and thankful for that.
But it's funny because they're all like losing their minds and, you know, and you're like, wait, doesn't this all make sense, actually?
Like, they've literally, and think about it.
They've told us the whole truth without telling us.
The only thing they haven't done is publicly acknowledge that Jeffrey Epstein was an asset of the intelligence service.
But you can literally take all the circumstantial evidence and the evidence of his history and past, like Mike Benz did, and put together in like the clearest and most certain terms that he was working for the CIA.
He was a money bundler and then he was a financial sort of offshore banking Sherpa who then, you know, sort of extended into this foray into like a weird degenerate evil, you know, trafficking business of and the.
Like he was just blackmailing people with child sex trafficking.
When in reality, it seems as though he was doing all the banking stuff.
He was helping offshore all of that.
He was, you know, establishing the whole network of transportation for these illicit activities, whether it was guns or drugs or people or who knows what else.
And they don't want you looking at that.
They want you focused on this.
So when I watch these people lose their minds, I'm like, look, you're clearly, clearly missing the forest for the trees here, or whatever that saying is.
So I think, yes, it's connected to Israel in the sense that, again, what do we know?
That it seems as though Epstein was running the, was helping prepare the financial infrastructure that was used to traffic weapons into Iran to help form Afghanistan's,
you know, al-Qaeda, ISIS, the iteration of, you know, the Mujahideen, which then became Al-Qaeda and Iraq and in Afghanistan and then ISIS later in Iraq and Syria.
And he was like one of the linchpins for all of that.
At least one of the mediators, right?
Or facilitators.
And that he was doing that on behalf of the United States and Israel.
So yeah, Israel's involved for sure.
And you know, it's funny is that, you know, Bibi Netanyahu is in Washington, D.C. right now, as was pointed out by one of our textures, breaking bread with Trump at the White House.
And it's interesting timing that the FBI and the DOJ decide to release that document and that video, like literally the day before that meeting takes place, is taking place, thereby bringing into the narrative in the news cycle this Epstein story,
which presumably should be dead by now, which you would think is probably another leverage point for the United States and its negotiation with Israel to get them to come to the table.
Because remember, what did we hear earlier in the show from Mike Benz when he was breaking it all down about Epstein's early, starting in 1981, when he made his financial services company that was helping royalty and elites offshore their accounts and track down people who held debt to them in offshore accounts?
It was that that later turned into the organization that helped facilitate a deal with the airline that was being used to smuggle weapons into Iran, to sell weapons into Iran that were then given to the Mujahideen, that were going to be used to fight Russia, which then ended up being used to create Al-Qaeda, which, you know, and all that stuff.
So you have to think that's a leverage point in Trump's negotiation with Bibi to be like, look, I can make this go away or I can make this public.
You play this card however you want, perhaps, if I was thinking out loud.
Right?
Trump's probably sitting there with Bibi Netanyahu today saying, look, you can either go and make this peace deal and agree to it with Iran and listen to me, or I can change my mind and make this whole Epstein thing come back and we can get to the real truth of it all.
Because of course they can create the narrative and shape the narrative and structure it with this whole conservative influence operation that they run.
And they control the media to the degree that they can shape narratives.
And so they could selectively release parts of the deal to make it look as though Epstein was working with Mossad to do all this stuff.
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Oh, really?
You know, Trump goes, oh, no.
Epstein was working with Israel to give weapons to Iran.
Well, that wouldn't look good for Bibi Netanyahu and his government, especially now.
And maybe the blackmail goes both ways in that regard, too, where Bibi's like, well, you know, Bibi's going to put the leverage pressure on Trump to say, well, you do that.
I'll do this.
I don't know what's going on.
Can we all agree on that?
I don't think any of us do.
I think we all think we have a good idea of what's going on.
And that's as far as I'll take it because this is what seems most logical to me.
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I'm open to all interpretations, but this just seems to be the one that makes the most sense.
So when we come back, I have more stories, I promise.
We'll get into it.
But ultimately, I would say to summarize this whole story, because it is an all-encompassing story, as it were.
The truth is, I think, stranger than fiction.
And I think that the narratives they shape for us to believe and understand are just a piece of the story and not the whole thing.
So if you think about it from that perspective, this all makes sense.
There's a lot of jockeying going on.
And it looks as though perhaps one of the negotiation points for this all is to say this all has everything to do with Israel and Iran.
This all has everything to do with Trump trying to broker that deal.
Trump's trying to put pressure in certain places and trying to make promises to protect things that ultimately very powerful people want to keep protected and hidden.
But Trump wants something in exchange for it.
With any luck, that will be a negotiated peace in the Middle East that is moderately sustainable.
But who knows?
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And a lot more to sort of unpack here.
As we said before, Trump is currently meeting with Bibi Netanyahu in the White House.
They're having an exchange.
One of the interesting exchanges of that meeting, of course, was apparently an exchange of pleasantries and flatteries clearly meant to appeal to Trump's ego,
which I don't know if that's going to work, but Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, otherwise known as Bibi, presented President Trump with a letter nominating him for the Nobel Peace Prize.
And I just think, you know, look, they understand the art of the deal.
They've read all of Trump's books.
They've studied his personality.
I think they believe that they can influence Trump with this sort of flattery, which maybe they can.
I don't know.
But it would seem as though this is all falling short.
And it's just kind of ironic that, you know, they're nominating him for the Nobel Peace Prize and he's trying to stop them from going to war with Iran.
It's like, does anybody else see the irony in that?
That him trying to restrict their government's effort to ostensibly or essentially destroy an entire nation has yielded the nomination of a Nobel Peace Prize by that nation.
I don't know.
I just find that rather interesting.
It doesn't seem as though Trump's going to buy.
I think there are people surrounding Trump to a large degree who have pro-Israel sentiments.
But I also think he's done a decent job, not great, but decent enough, I guess, of putting people around him who have different opinions as well.
And with any luck, the support for any government that is engaged in sort of activities that we've seen coming out of Israel would be at least cause for scrutiny, at least cause for concern to say, hold up, we don't want to have full-scale war in the Middle East.
And if he can broker a peace, that's great.
Why wouldn't we want that?
It's what we should want.
Peace is good, as I was told by all of our left-wing friends for so long.
And war is bad, as I was told again by many of our left-wing friends for so long.
But now it's kind of the Unit Party in Washington, D.C. is like just one big lobbying group for the military-industrial complex now on both sides.
And there's very few like small government conservatives who, I mean, personally, like I think are a bit of grandstanders and a little bit of, you know, have different things that they've done over the past that I don't agree with.
But, you know, ultimately, you should try to at least see eye to eye with those people and say, hey, you know, limited government conservatism really does not have much of a place for the never-ending, you know, expansionism of, you know, imperialism predicated on,
you know, this military industrial complex system that is like a machine that just feeds endlessly on smaller, vulnerable countries who are incapable of defending themselves to a large degree.
So I don't know.
We'll see what happens with the whole BB Netanyahu story that surely will play itself out in certain ways.
But another story I thought was interesting is the White House came out today.
Interestingly enough, or I think this was, no, it might have been yesterday, today or yesterday, I think maybe yesterday.
They've come out, or I don't know, I got to get the timing of the story right, but they basically come out and said that they're cracking down on China and other foreign governments owning farmland nationwide.
So I think that's interesting.
And that definitely will, let's say, put a new spotlight on what's happening here across the country.
I have a clip here.
This is a remark from the Secretary of Defense, Pete Hegseth, on just that issue.
Let's listen to this.
I want to know who owns the land around our bases and strategic bases and getting an understanding of why foreign entities, foreign companies, foreign individuals might be buying up land around those bases.
That's something I should be paying attention to on behalf of the American people, on behalf of my department, and on behalf of the President.
It's common sense.
And so food security, just like energy resilience, just like where we get our water, that's all national security, especially in a contingency.
So we would be asleep at the wheel if we were not fully a party to an effort like this to ensure that our nation had the food supply it needs.
But specifically, our troops have what they need on our basis so that in those moments you can rely on us here in the United States to provide that security.
So no longer can foreign adversaries assume we're not watching and we're not paying attention and we're not doing something about it because we are.
So, Brooke, thank you.
Yeah, I don't think that they ever were not paying attention.
I think half the time it felt like they were turning a blind eye intentionally so that, you know, because of whatever deals that were made, you know, like the New World Order was this like amalgamation of all these different globalist corporations saying, you know, we'll just all get along and work together and enrich each other.
So it'll all just work out.
We'll just live in peace, kumbaya.
You know, we'll exploit this country's labor, this country's banking, this country's military, and we'll just do it all together.
But of course, that, you know, was doomed to fail anyway, and is inevitably doomed to fail when you have those competing interests.
Like the Chinese system and the U.S. system will never mesh.
Although they want it to, they really do want that sort of, you know, communist capitalist system.
I mean, they have it pretty, they have the communist part pretty good in China.
They have the capitalist part okay in China, not great.
They have the capitalist part great in America, and they're really working on the communist part here in America.
So it's like they're trying to meld these two systems, and I don't think that's going to work, fortunately for us.
Although they're going to keep trying, I'm sure.
I don't think they have any intention on, you know, stopping that anytime soon.
So when Pete Hexa says, you know, we weren't paying attention, now we are.
I mean, that's clearly him saying, you know, this is a practice that was perhaps allowed under a different person's watch, but won't be allowed under mine.
That's the way I read it.
And good on him.
I mean, we don't want these countries infiltrating our border and, you know, setting up these.
Like, is it good that China owns farmland all around our military bases and other land?
Probably not.
But I mean, anything that can be observed from, you know, the outside perimeter of those bases are things that can be easily observed from satellites in space, probably.
So it wouldn't be as compromising as you would think, but still doesn't look good.
And you know what they say?
It's that old saying, right?
They say, keep your friends close and your enemies closer.
So maybe that's what we're doing.
Although it looks a lot like collusion, like we're just working with them.
So who knows?
Who knows?
We'll try to get to a couple other stories here as we wrap it up.
Keep it locked in.
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I'm your host, Craig James.
And it's interesting that there was a press conference, I guess, that was rolled out this morning, I'm assuming, from the White House.
They talked about the Chinese, you know, foreign entities owning land around military bases.
They also talked about the mass deportations and those efforts that are underway.
Now, again, you can criticize the Big Beautiful Bill all you want in many different ways because there's plenty of waste, fraud, and abuse that can be pointed to and fair enough, rightfully so.
But one of the things it did was it expanded funding for ICE and DHS, particularly for the immigration services to Border Patrol to be engaged in these deportation operations.
So it's expanded that by some massive sum.
I mean, we're talking, I think, if I'm guessing I'm talking about $20, $30 billion, somewhere that maybe a little more.
But that's the number of billions they're going to be putting toward the effort to deport everybody.
And one of the things people are worried about, amnesty.
Trump's going to give amnesty.
Trump's going to do Polar Reagan.
He's going to give amnesty, and then he's going to say, we'll deport the rest, or we'll shut down the border.
And nobody, I think, at least nobody who's being reasonable is an advocate of amnesty except the left, which of course they are.
But they would let anyone in.
It wouldn't matter.
As long as you're a likely candidate to be on social welfare and to vote Democrat indefinitely, then you are welcome into our country.
No questions asked.
But no reasonable person would ever say they want amnesty, which is basically, for those of you who don't know what amnesty is, it's essentially forgiving the crimes in a blanket way of those who came here illegally and then giving them a path towards citizenship that is fairly easy, right?
And this happened, I believe it was with Reagan in the 80s, where, and if you look at that whole thing, it's crazy because that's how California became a permanent blue communist state was through this amnesty that Reagan helped provide, among other things.
And because before that, it was a pretty conservative, you know, Reagan's where he's from.
It's how he got elected.
It was the landslide.
You know, he won fairly easily out there, as I recall it.
But people are saying that Trump's going to give amnesty.
People are saying that Trump's considering it.
And I think I've heard Trump say it before.
He's made some comments about, oh, well, it's thinking about it or something to that regard.
He's never come out and said he's for it.
But, you know, people are, again, rightfully so, concerned that this is something that perhaps is on the table.
And it seems as though for now, the people in his cabinet are not in favor of it.
For instance, this is a clip from that press conference earlier.
The agricultural secretary or agriculture secretary, Brooke Rollins, here she is on amnesty.
Let's listen to this.
I think I answered the second question, where we are on farm labor, a little bit earlier.
But what I will say is that Lori Chavez-DeRimmer is our Secretary of Labor.
And the H-2A visa program, all of the programs that inure to moving in seasonal ag workers are under Secretary Chavez-DeRimmer.
She has been working around the clock with her team.
I think we'll probably hear a little bit more about this today, and the conversations will continue.
But I can't underscore enough.
There will be no amnesty.
The mass deportations continue, but in a strategic way, and we move the workforce towards automation and 100% American participation, which again, with 34 million people, able-bodied adults on Medicaid, we should be able to do that fairly quickly.
Thank you.
Yeah, those able-bodied adults on Medicaid, we can have them go pick the fields.
I don't think it's a bad idea.
It probably ultimately would be a benefit for them, make them healthier.
You know, physical labor is always a good way to get in shape.
You know, of course, they're talking about AMCA.
They're talking about the mass deportations.
They're strategic mass deportations because, of course, we need the seasonal laborers from South America to Central America to come pick our crops and do other farm jobs that most people haven't found a proclivity toward wanting to be involved with.
And, you know, this was one of the things where, you know, you have the purists who are like deport them all.
And in that regard, I am kind of a purist.
I'm not going to lie.
I think the mass deportation has to be a mass deportation.
And then you make a program, like I said, they have these developed, you know, these seasonal working visa type programs or whatever it is that are kind of aimed toward bringing people in short term.
But you have to have better controls on that.
And you have to have a better way of getting those people back.
I know people who work on seasonal visas who are great people who I think are a net benefit to this country, who are nice people who are very beneficial, but they follow the law and they go back when their visa is up and then they come back when they're needed for their work, right?
And they do this.
It's probably not the ideal situation for them because, for instance, they can't bring their family.
So their family has to stay behind, then they have to come here and work, then they go back to their family, and it's causes separation and some hardship.
But ultimately, the reason they can't bring their family in most circumstances is because of the illegal immigration.
It's because of the people who are here illegally taking up resources and the capability of our government to be able to say, hey, yeah, you could bring your family here if you're on a temporary visa.
Because at the end of the day, those people, when you talk to them, and I have, they're mad at the illegals because they're doing it all the right way.
And they're the ones who end up suffering for it.
So, you know, I think if you do it legally, then it's good.
We should want legal immigration in all forms.
Even if it means temporary visa programs for people to come here.
Let them bring their family and get rid of all the other people who are here legally so that there's room for the people to come here with their families.
And that there's resources.
And then the people who come here illegally get exploited, so it's a complete...
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It is our final segment.
You know, time flies, but I appreciate everybody chiming in on the text line, whether you're asking questions, giving comments, whatever.
It's interesting.
It's always interesting to go over there and see what people are saying.
Somebody was asking whether Christians under 40 or Hamas is more triggered by Trump meeting BB and whether or not Candace or Tucker is more triggered by Trump and BB meeting together.
I don't know.
I mean, look, to get triggered by anything is, you know, attributing it the power to compromise your personal emotions, and that is usually not healthy or good in any regard.
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And that, I think, is how you should form your opinions, not based on being triggered or not.
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It says this, Dear friends, I am not writing you a new command, but an old command that you have had from the beginning.
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Yet I am writing you a new command, which is true in him and in you, because the darkness is passing away and the true light is already shining.
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The one who loves his brother remains in the light, and there is no cause for stumbling in him.
But the one who hates his brother is in the darkness, walks in the darkness, and doesn't know where he's going because the darkness has blinded his eyes.
So friends, I leave you with those words.
And hatred is a powerful thing.
If you allow it to control your actions, you will find quickly that you will lose sight of God in your heart.
And I think that's what's being described here, is that the command being given is a command that is and has stood the test of time.
Do not be driven by hatred.
Remember what it says in James 1.20, that our anger doesn't satisfy God's righteousness.
Be quick to hear, slow to speak, and slow to anger.
I think that's the takeaway I have.
And I've tried to practice in my life.
I have nowhere near perfection, obviously, but I use these words for myself as well as you guys out there is that I try to let my life be driven by God, by hope, by my belief and faith, and not by my hatred of others.
And I try to rid my heart of that every day because it only will lead to my destruction.
So I hope those words spoke to your heart.
If you haven't accepted Jesus as your Lord and Savior, open your heart, say a prayer, call upon his name, accept him as your Lord and Savior, and we'll leave it there.
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