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We have quite the show for you.
Hope you guys are doing well.
The big story of the day is, though, that Donald Trump is making good on his promise to take on the deep state.
And this time, it is something that they hold near and dear to their heart on both sides of the aisle of the deep state, that is.
And that is U.S. aid.
Otherwise known as the U.S. Agency for International Development, has been put in the crosshairs by President Donald J. Trump.
As has been reported, Elon Musk shut down the organization with the approval of Donald J. Trump hours after taking control of it, and they locked out the 600 staffers.
From attending their jobs overnight.
So the staff were shocked when they woke up on Monday to emails instructing them to stay out of the agency's D.C. headquarters.
It became apparent that it's not an apple with a worm in it, Musk said of the six-decade U.S. aid, International Aid and Development Agency.
What we have is just a ball of worms.
You've got to basically get rid of the whole thing.
It's beyond repair.
We're shutting it down, he said in a quote on his ex-platform.
Now, USAID has quite an extensive history of malfeasance and corruption as has been documented.
Just the waste, fraud, and abuse alone is worth shutting down this organization and never allowing the doors to reopen, but...
When you couple it with the statecraft and espionage and sabotage and running of coups from their organization and so on, it really becomes a matter of national security to get rid of this corrupt and broken entity which has been completely inundated and infiltrated by the deep state, quote-unquote, whom Trump has vowed to counter.
As a part of his presidency.
Now, look, this is the general overview of the situation.
Of course, there is much more nuance and complexity to it.
And as we get through some of these stories and these reports, hopefully that will become clearer and clearer as we go along.
But the truth of the matter is that we all know what USAID has been a party to.
In one form or another, we could recognize their work if we were basically shown a portfolio of their crimes.
It would be very clear.
They had a hand in terrorism in the Middle East and ISIS and the creation of it, yeah.
They had a hand in toppling governments in foreign countries, yeah.
They had a hand in laundering money to the corrupt politicians who signed off on the illegal operations of the deep state, yeah.
They've had a hand in practically everything.
And the way you know that this is...
Striking at the heart of what we have identified as the deep state, this internal bureaucracy, uniparty establishment that doesn't care who's democratically elected because they control the levers of power in perpetuity, or they did at least for quite some time.
The way you know is because every corrupt politician on Capitol Hill, practically, from Ilhan Omar, To AOC and Jamie Raskin and Chuck Schumer and the list goes on and on and on, have been clamoring, scrambling and rambling at the top of their lungs about how this is a threat to democracy.
I mean, some of the news reports on this are absolutely...
Very telling.
I'll just put it that way.
For instance, let me pull up to give you an example of how this is being reported on by leftist media.
Here is a short clip of Jen Sakai talking about what is happening right now at USAID. This should tell you a lot of what you need to know.
Listen to this.
Because what's happening right now is a hostile takeover of the U.S. government.
There's no other way to describe it.
It's happening clearly across our justice system where just a few hours ago, a deadline passed for FBI employees to fill out a questionnaire detailing their involvement in January 6th cases.
In other words, they were asked to fill out basically a loyalty test.
That comes after an unprecedented purge of the FBI on Friday night when the Trump administration forced out top FBI career officials, multiple FBI field office leaders, and a number of DOJ prosecutors who worked on January 6th cases.
Tonight I'm going to talk to one of the prosecutors who was fired on Friday.
His name is Jake Strubing.
He was back at the U.S. Attorney's Office in D.C. this morning where he was escorted to his office to pick up his things, drop off his computer, his phone, and his credentials.
This is going to be his first interview since he was fired.
He has a lot to say, and he's going to be at this table with me in just a moment.
But of course, as you all know, it's not just law enforcement where there is a hostile takeover of the government.
And it's not a takeover at the hand of Trump alone.
I mean, this takeover is also happening at the direction of his unelected best friend, Elon Musk.
His latest target was the United States Agency for International Development, and that agency is the one that not only leads on humanitarian assistance around the world, but also works to combat corruption in foreign aid programs.
It's a big part of what they do.
I kind of see how that could make Elon Musk a bit uncomfortable.
So, what do you think he did?
You may already know.
Well, he removed two of the top leaders of the organization who wouldn't do his bidding over the weekend, and then overnight, last night, Uh-oh.
So you hear the panic in their voice.
You remember Jen Sakai, of course, famously for her role in her short period of time before she was replaced.
Inevitably by the DEI hire Korean Jean-Pierre, the first black whatever, whatever, whatever woman of color and who's gay and blah, blah, blah, who was the press secretary for the White House.
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She's a high-ranking player in the former administration of the Biden corrupt regime, that is.
And she's coming out and saying this is a hostile takeover.
I mean...
How else could you describe a democratically elected executive exerting his authority over an institution run by non-elected bureaucrats who've used and abused this agency to a point where it's been weaponized against the will of the American people?
I mean, that's a hostile takeover if I've ever seen one.
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I'm your host, Craig James, And we're talking about USAID, the Agency for International Development, which has been an organization that has been abused and misused by our bureaucracy for quite some time And as I said before, you know, I played you the reporting from the left-wing media, MSNBC, about what's happening, right?
And when you hear them use these words, like hostile takeover, right, and they use all this language that insinuates that this is, you know, an open coup they're running against the organization that their corrupt bureaucracy has been using to overthrow governments through coups and other things, you know that Trump's hit a nerve, right?
And if you think this is bad, folks, I got news for you.
Wait till Trump goes at the Department of Education.
And you know that that's coming, by the way, if you've been paying attention and just looking at the tea leaves, as they say.
But wait till they go off the Department of Education.
These people will really lose their minds.
But in order to understand what USAID is and what it does, first I think you have to understand kind of the...
Outward veneer, the outward, you know, projection of what it's supposed to do, right?
And it kind of is explained through the name.
It's the Agency for International Development, meaning they are an agency that's been chartered to work with, you know, NGOs, non-governmental organizations to go into foreign countries and help Create jobs by, or create, you know, charities work, or to enact charity work and help countries develop, etc., etc.
Well, what does that look like in reality?
Well, the truth is very simple, but I'll get into that in a second.
I have some clips.
Mike Benz does a great job sort of explaining what...
USAID has been doing for many years and how it's been used by our government to do some pretty shady and nefarious stuff.
And the main talking point, though, right now from the Trump administration is that this organization has gone rogue, essentially.
Unaccountable, uncontrollable.
It is one of the epicenters, one of, there are several, of the deep state's operations.
It's one of the places from which they gather aid and funding and resources and government resources, money particularly, which is why a lot of these politicians have started rushing over there to stage these photo ops outside the building, which they did yesterday, right?
As I said, Elon Omar and Jamie Raskin and the rest of the corrupt bunch started, you know, having their little temper tantrums on the stairs of the USAID building because, guess what?
The slush funds that pay them the kickbacks for signing off through Congress on these development programs and their funding have all been shut down now.
And it's like they're over there basically saying, in no uncertain terms, they're saying, how dare you shut off the source from which I will become a millionaire while I'm in office?
Right?
Because if you think about what happens is this, and I'll break this down as simply as I can just to give you one example, but there's thousands of other ways that this could happen.
But here's just one example.
I'm a congresswoman or a congressman, and I have a charity or organization, something from which I do philanthropic work, but I have separation built in.
Maybe a family member runs it, maybe a friend runs it, maybe some level of separation that's necessary to avoid tighter regulation or overview.
And that organization then is...
Contracted through USAID to do work here or there, internationally perhaps, right?
Well, the congressman or woman who has an affiliation somehow or a tie with this charity or this NGO, non-governmental organization, will lobby as a part of budgetary line items.
You know, when they're putting together their omnibus budget, which is intentionally 3,000 to 5,000 pages long so that nobody can read it.
And it's stuff full.
When we talk about the corruption in the budgeting process in Washington, D.C., this is particularly what we're talking about when it comes to, like, pork barreling.
Which pork barreling is just another way of saying, you know, throwing on these extra spending addendums.
right?
More and more spending, right?
And it's like, it's horse trading, and that's another way of saying, like, negotiating.
So these senators will say, well, I want, you know, a million dollars for this charitable organization in my district, and then I'll sign off on this part of the funding bill for this part of the government, right?
And this is what they do.
They jockey behind.
But in a lot of scenarios, these organizations...
Are basically, you know, shells of shells of companies that either work for intelligence or work for other, you know, sort of gray area corrupt business entities, which then inevitably will funnel that money back to...
The corrupt congresswoman or man who signed off on the budget to get the money there in the first place.
It's called a kickback, right?
But it can't be a direct kickback.
It's got to be indirect.
So the money gets laundered through, you know, two or three or four companies, but it eventually makes its way back into Elon Omar's bank account or Jamie Raskin's bank account or AOC's bank account or Chuck Schumer's bank account or Mitch McConnell's bank account.
Or Kevin McCarthy's bank account, or, you know, you name the corrupt politician, it doesn't matter, Republican or Democrat, this really doesn't matter.
This is how it works on both sides of the aisle, which is why they're so sensitive and afraid of it.
So this money gets kicked around through these organizations, then it comes back in what we call basically a slush fund, which is a place that is offshore in most cases, where funds are held and then redistributed back as kickbacks to the Government officials, a percentage of whatever amount they allocated toward the corrupt agency or organization.
And that's what keeps the business, that's what keeps the cycle going, right?
Because they get their kickback, that's how they become millionaires while in office or right after they step out of office.
And then, you know, that's how Bernie Sanders gets two homes or three homes when he tells you, you can't have more than one, you know?
Or having one is evil.
So this cycle happens, and USAID is a very central part of this operation, because it's the place from which these funds get distributed.
It's how they launder the money out of government to get it into some NGO, some private entity, which then can launder it through a couple shells or a couple other corporations, that then it comes back to the Congress member.
Right?
So this is why they're freaking out.
And this corruption's been going on for a long time, and not only do they do that, but then they funnel all this money into the USAID program to do all kinds of other corrupt activities, right?
And this is explained very clearly and precisely by Mike Benz on...
He was on Real America's Voice yesterday, and he explains in detail...
Sort of the different things that this money can be used for, for statecraft running coup d'etats.
I mean, they've said that.
I mean, I can play you the compilations of people like John Bolton going on national television saying, well, I've run a lot of coup d'etats in my day.
Well, not here in America, of course, but, you know, just abroad.
So they don't even hide it, but...
They also don't want the gravy train to stop because they understand that this is how the bureaucracy is more powerful than the executive and the elected officials.
It's how they control them.
It's how they bribe them.
It's how they pay them off.
Let's listen to Mike Benz explain USAID and what it actually does.
Under the cover of humanitarian work, they so-called advance U.S. U.S. national interests by accomplishing some goal in the region.
Now they don't actually accomplish U.S. national interests in the region.
What they do is they accomplish The commercial or political goals of a very small secular elite within the United States and their international partners.
So, for example, I've published about hundreds of different USAID scandals from them claiming to run AIDS prevention clinics in Cuba and all over South America.
And it turns out that the AIDS prevention clinics were actually Covers for undercover agents to sow anti-government dissent and to try to organize a revolution in the country.
You had the case of Zunzuniyo, where USAID took humanitarian funds earmarked for Pakistan and created a fake knockoff Twitter social media site where USAID... Documents explicitly stated in their own internal documents that the plan was to get 100,000 people in the country to join up to this social media service,
luring them in with news feeds predominated by sports news and hurricane updates, and then at the appropriate moment, once enough people were onboarded, to hit them with messages to overthrow their government and take to the streets in smart mobs.
You see this time and time again.
You will see all over the news and all over these USAID HQ protests today and all over X from the intelligence community and military and statecraft blob folks.
You will see them say, but USAID is funding irrigation canals and famine.
If they are doing irrigation canal work, it is because they are trying to control the river systems in the country, in Ethiopia.
Or, for example, when they were irrigating the fields in Afghanistan.
Well, guess what they were doing there?
They were growing the heroin supply.
As their companion, the U.S. Institute for Peace, was lobbying the Taliban.
To keep the heroin supplies flowing because it would be bad for Afghanistan and the world if they shut down the poppy crops.
USAID was funding the irrigation of those crops in order to keep the supply of heroin flowing.
You see this time and time again.
If they are doing famine relief projects, it is to control the food supply and therefore control the population.
And supplement that with sanctions work to make people angry against their government or dependent on the U.S. to dole out that food.
And take, for example, the job fairs.
I just posted this just yesterday, and I've talked about this many times in the past three years.
Mark Milley and Joe Biden in 2021 and their special forces perspectives game-planned how USAID could do job fairs in poor countries in order to get people to take to the streets and riot.
And go on strike from their jobs and so that it would help U.S. military operations by having USAID give free no-show jobs to Africans striking in race riots in Africa in order to basically, you know, so it's a humanitarian job fair.
But no, it's actually not.
It's actually serving the dual purpose of rent-a-riots being organized by USAID. So USAID is just a mutant baby of the CIA and the State Department, with a little top-up support to the U.S. military.
I could go on and on about this, but there's a lot of moving pieces to this story.
Yeah.
A mutant baby of the CIA and the State Department is a good explanation, but one thing that Mike Benz doesn't touch on there, which is the interconnectivity of it all, right?
How this bureaucratic blob works in a self-serving way, right?
USAID needs funding.
I mean, look at the programs that are being cut out of USAID. It is absolutely ridiculous, some of the things that I've seen put on the chopping block with USAID. I mean, they've...
Cut a billion dollars out already, and some of the programs are as absurd as you could imagine.
A million dollars to put LGBTQ books in libraries in some foreign nation.
It's like that kind of stuff, right?
And that's not, I don't know if that's a particular program, but it's something in that vein.
And there's countless examples of that.
Well, those programs aren't really doing that.
Maybe a small portion of the money goes to that, but the majority of the money will end up being both funneled into black sort of gray ops of the deep state.
And a small portion of that money, of course, will be put through the Shell Company circle to come back as kickbacks for the congressmen and women to sign off on the budget.
So that's what this all is.
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And it is interesting to see this all unfold.
I mean, the spectacle that was made in front of the USAID building in Washington, D.C. after Trump shut the doors and barred the employees from entering was something to be seen.
I mean, Congress...
They're corrupt officials.
People like AOC. I don't think AOC was there, actually.
I mean, Elon Omar, Jamie Raskin, and a bunch of other, you know, plutocrat criminals who run this country.
Went over there.
They rushed over there to give these speeches on the steps because they wouldn't be allowed in the building, and it's like, we're Congress.
We have the right to oversight of these organizations.
You mean you want to see, you want to make sure the doors are open back up on how they launder money back into your back pocket so you sign, and this is where the money scam happens.
This is a sampling of what we heard yesterday.
Here is Ilhan Omar.
...a sad day in America.
We are witnessing a constitutional crisis.
We talked about Trump wanting to be a dictator on day one, and here we are.
This is what the beginning of dictatorship looks like.
When you gut the Constitution...
And you install yourself as the sole power.
That is how dictators are made.
What Trump and Elon and all of their cronies are trying to do is take away the constitutional power of Congress.
We get to decide.
We have the power of the purse.
We get to decide where money is allocated, and it's the executive's power to make sure that that money gets to where it needs to get.
When we talk about civil servants being let go, what we are talking about is not saving money.
It's essentially saying they can get paid while they're home and their work doesn't get done on behalf of the American people.
It is us, taxpayers, who are being ripped off.
It is us, taxpayers, who are not getting the resources that we paid into.
So I ask the American people, do you want people at home and getting a paycheck and not providing services to you?
The answer is no.
Do you want the executive making the only decisions in this country or do you want the elected representatives that you sent to Washington making those policies?
What is she even saying?
Can somebody help me here?
I am exceptionally upset about USAID. I lived in a refugee camp for four years as a child surviving civil war.
Tell us more.
It is the essential programs that USAID provided that kept my family and I fit and safe.
It is the resources that so many people around the world rely on.
And it is our soft power.
Oftentimes people interact with our country through the military.
That does not create love for us, and it certainly does not keep us safe.
When the world...
What an odd thing to say.
She goes on and on about, you know, insert foot in mouth.
I mean, some of the congressmen behind her and women are like, what is she going on?
What is she saying here?
She's saying the quiet part out loud.
I mean, we get to decide where the money is allocated.
Well, you make a budget.
But that doesn't mean that the money can be spent to undermine the objectives of our diplomacy abroad and undermine the objectives of the executive who's democratically elected, or so we're, you know, in the process of understanding, believing.
This is like, everything that she just put out there is so fascinating to me.
Because she's very stupid.
And that's just, you know, the fact of the matter, right?
We're dealing with somebody who's not of a very high IQ. She's given these talking points beforehand.
You know, she has a very limited understanding.
She knows that the money that goes to USAID helps basically get her the kickback.
So she's like, I was in a refugee camp!
And if USAID hadn't come and given me food...
I would never have been brought to the United States to become a subversive and to run in Congress and to advocate on behalf of dissidents who hate this country and want to destroy it from within.
USAID made all of that possible and more for so many others.
The military is big and bad and evil and scary.
But USAID is nice and kind and benevolent, and they gave me, they gave me Twinkies and snack cakes, and then brought me here and helped fund my, illegally fund my campaign, most likely, but we're not going to talk about that.
It's funny, it's funny, it's funny.
I mean funny in a strange way, not funny as in like, ha ha, comedic, comical.
I mean, funny as in, like, this is just so strange that they come out and say it, although I think they're being backed into a corner right now.
I don't think they have any other choice.
And they have to frame, remember, everything Trump does to counter what we've identified as the deep state, everything he does to counter that, has to be identified as a threat to quote-unquote democracy.
Right?
Democracy is dying!
If, you know, Washington Post, what is it?
Democracy dies in darkness.
Darkness is coming over the doors at USAID. And for anybody who's, you know, of a mind similar to mine, and maybe yours out there, who want limited government, small government, I mean, this is really...
Just one of many steps that are ahead to rein in this uncontrollable beast of a government that we've allowed to metastasize and grow.
And here's the fact of the matter as well.
When you hear the anger and frustration and just outright...
Exhaustion.
You can hear it in their voice, right?
They're exhausted.
They're like, this is hostile takeover.
This is the end of democracy.
We have the power.
We allocate where money is spent.
We say who gets what and where and when.
Well, to a degree.
But, I mean, I find it interesting because, you know, like Marco Rubio, I think, put it very succinctly as to what, You know, is being dealt with here as far as people and how they're acting.
And I want to play this clip real quick.
Listen to this.
You're now the head of USAID. The head of Doge, Elon Musk, called USAID a criminal organization and added that it is time for it to die.
Do you agree with that?
They have basically evolved into an agency that believes that they're not even a U.S. government agency.
That they are a global charity.
That they take the taxpayer money and they spend it as a global charity, irrespective of whether it is in the national interest or not in the national interest.
One of the most common complaints you will get if you go to embassies around the world from State Department officials and ambassadors and the like is USAID is not only not cooperative, they undermine the work that we're doing in that country.
They are supporting programs that upset the host government for whom we're trying to work with on a broader scale and so forth.
So they're completely unresponsive.
They just don't consider...
Consider that they work for the U.S. They just think they're a global entity and that their master is the globe and not the United States.
And that's not what the statute says, and that's not sustainable.
Can it be reformed or does it need to die?
Well, that was always the goal was to reform it.
But now we have rank insubordination.
Now we have basically an active effort.
Their basic attitude is we don't work for anyone.
We work for ourselves.
No agency of government can tell us what to do.
So the president made me the acting administrator.
I've delegated that power to someone who's there full-time, and we're going to go through the same process.
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You know, we're talking about this USAID thing, and as Rubio put it, I mean, this is what he's described as what's happening and what's been happening.
This is a rogue organization that has basically decided that it's not accountable for its actions to anybody but itself.
And it's working, obviously, against the best and better interests of the United States as a whole.
And now, this has continued for quite some time, right?
This has gone on and on and on, to a point now where Trump's finally stepped in and done something, but this is like, it's striking at the heart of the issue, one of the hearts, right?
One of the vital organs, let's just say, of the deep state, if it were to be made in that comparison.
USAID is just one of many facets, but it is a critical one.
And as I've explained here in the show so far, I mean, it's one of the pivotal points from which the laundering of money out of government into the private sector and back into congressional slush funds That, this is one of the places from which it begins.
Okay, there are many stops along the way.
That's how money laundering works.
You have to wash it, you know, across several entities to make it look as though it's clean.
Right?
But, this is where it all, this is sort of the nexus.
This is the heart.
This is why Trump is going after it, but like I said, wait until Trump goes after The Department of Education.
Wait until Trump goes after the National Endowment for Democracy.
Wait until he starts going after some of these other institutions.
Then they're really going to lose their mind.
But this is just sort of a sampling of it.
Here I have a clip.
Another one of Mike Benz with Steve Bannon.
Talking about how USAID has played a role internationally, and I want to play a little bit of this.
This might be a little overlap from the previous clip, but let's listen to some of it here.
Brother Benz, why is it a bad thing to have something like the USA? The sounds on the surface of it, you just saw the big crocodile tears are crying on MSNBC. It's for humanitarian projects.
It's for development projects.
It's to help bring water to the village.
And that's a pretty good cover.
Why is USA—why did we rip the mask off and say it's a CIA? And what is the advantage to the American people?
You mentioned that it gave the money to the same sort of folks throughout the world.
Who are those folks, and why is it an advantage to the populist nationalist movement and the American working man and woman to basically rip the mask off, face what it is, and then shut it down, sir?
Well, this is a very, very complicated question, and I really hope that Trump World foreign policy folks understand the open-heart surgery they're conducting on the way our foreign policy operates around the world.
And in terms of why it's a bad thing that USAID does what it does, this is one of these questions that, you know, I've known and followed this stuff for many years, but I never made a crusade about taking it on.
Until USAid got in the business of censoring the internet.
And at that point, censoring Americans on the American internet and censoring American social media companies as a foreign-facing humanitarian NGO sponsor that everyone knows is just...
It's just the CIA's plausible deniability layer and funding conduit.
But when it started to be used against Americans on American soil, that to me was the final straw, that no matter how useful it may be to spend...
$40 billion a year bribing warlords in Africa, bribing oligarchs in Ukraine, bribing and recruiting terrorists in Afghanistan and Pakistan and Syria, disguising medical supply bans in Venezuela with boxes of AK-47s and military supplies.
The fact is, it is no longer a foreign policy instrument.
It is a domestic control instrument.
It's the final straw.
You can't do that to Americans.
Yeah.
Yeah, I think that's why it matters.
That was the part I wanted to tell everyone.
And, you know, one of the funniest things yesterday was this line on Congress.
Listen to this.
This is Chuck Schumer.
Also know this is just the beginning.
If Doge attacks USAID today, then you can be sure they'll move on to another target tomorrow.
Who knows?
Maybe it'll be the Postal Service, or the IRS, or even the Social Security Administration.
They could be next.
Or maybe our national security agencies.
Oh, no!
No!
They'll shut down the IRS or the intelligence agencies?
Oh my gosh, could you imagine?
No!
Chuck, we have to stop this, right?
I mean, I'm sure the American people don't...
Want anything to happen to the IRS? I mean, for the love of all, that's good.
Could you imagine what would happen if somehow, someway, the IRS were to disappear or get shut down or be reformed in a way that made it more efficient and less abusive of the American public?
Oh my gosh, Chuck!
Chuck, we have to stop this.
Now, I'm being facetious, obviously.
I may have laid it on a little thick there, but the point is, like, if this is what is coming down the pipeline, sign me up.
And, of course, they always wave around the Social Security thing.
Look, Social Security is bankrupt.
It may be able to get saved somehow, some way.
But I'll tell you what's not going to save Social Security, and that's funding.
USAID and billions and billions of dollars for what they were getting into.
So the point is that if Trump goes after the IRS and Doge goes after the IRS, I'm in.
Sign me up.
Where do I... Can I enlist?
Is this something that we can join in?
Because...
Yeah, I think that's what the American people voted for.
Isn't it?
Maybe I'm crazy.
Let us know what you think.
877-536-1360 is the number.
We're going to keep going.
More stories to cover.
But, uh, no!
I mean...
Heaven forbid they went after the IRS. I mean, man, that would be shame.
That would be terrible.
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Everybody look what's going down Welcome back to Just Form Talk Radio I'm your host, Craig James.
Now, here's the thing.
I'm going to play this clip, and I'm going to describe to you what's happening here.
And I'm going to describe to you the irony of this clip.
In graphic detail, but you have to hear it first.
This is from a protest.
The Democratic representative, Jim McGovern, in front of the USAID building, you know, this big, dreary, gray, you know, thick stone building in Washington, D.C., you know, with the emboldened gold letters of USAID on it with a crowd surrounding him with signs held up saying, USAID saves lives!
And here he is.
Listen to this.
To all the employees at USAID, thank you, thank you, thank you.
You keep America safe, and you help people all around the world.
And I want to apologize.
I want to say I'm sorry that you have to put up with this offensive bullshit coming out of this White House.
Okay, so let me describe this to you, because you have to, I mean, some things don't translate in radio, so I have to translate it.
This is a man standing in front of, as I said, this big gray stone sort of building here in Washington, D.C. They've all been locked out, right?
So this is a crowd.
And who is in this crowd?
It's congressmen and women, corrupt congressmen and women, their staffers, and the employees who have been essentially locked out of their jobs at USAID. Those are the three.
Components of this crowd here.
So it's basically like you heard Mike Benz talk about the rent-a-riot, you know, how they make these fake protests and use them to overthrow governments, right?
This is their shabby attempt, last-second attempt, you know, put together on a fly, on a whim, at creating a visual To sell to the public that people care about USAID. You could ask,
you could poll a hundred people on the street and ask them if they have strong feelings about whether or not USAID stays or goes in the government, and I guarantee you a hundred out of the hundred people will go, what's USAID? What the hell is that?
They wouldn't even know what it is.
Okay?
And they want us to believe that A hundred people have gathered with signs that look like they were written by children.
USA saves lives!
USA works together!
Democracies are dying in America!
Right?
Like, these are, these are, this is psychological warfare that is so, I mean, and it's all framed up for the television cameras, so it can be Put on the nightly news so the sound bites can be clipped so that the every,
like, it could not be more staged in the way that has been described the intelligence community uses in statecraft abroad.
You know, destabilizing sort of, you know, subterfuge, sabotage operations.
This is it.
They're doing it here in America.
It's like, I'm like that meme, I'm pointing at the screen and saying, look, they're doing the thing!
You know?
They're doing the thing they do in all the foreign countries!
But they're doing it here!
So, remember this.
That, in closing, USAID is just the beginning.
There is more to come.
Mark my words, folks.
If we're lucky, as Chuck Schumer says, we might go after the IRS next.
But when we come back, we have a lot more to cover.
Everybody keep it locked in.
I'd love to hear your thoughts on it all.
877-536-1360.
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so there's a lot to cover still I I mean, I could go on and on and on about the USAID thing because it is so deeply connected to...
Not just the foreign interference campaigns that undermine U.S. diplomatic endeavors, not just the laundering of money through charities and non-governmental organizations that then are put into congressional slush funds and used as kickbacks for expansion of funding,
but also for planning, plotting, and executing operations Abroad, that are then turned and used against American citizens.
One particular instance is the example that we've been given time and again here of looking at how USAID used taxpayer money to fund, for instance, COVID-19.
Here's a clip from Tucker Carlson talking about this.
You know, the thing that people don't in this country understand is that the Ukrainian military is selling about half of the arms they get from the United States into international black markets, and they're winding up, in some cases, with the drug cartels in Latin America.
That's a fact.
Okay, it's a fact.
fact.
And you can buy them.
And I spoke to someone who did buy some, actually, so I know this is a fact.
And they're bragging about it.
So they're selling conventional weapons, including weapon systems that are very dangerous and very destabilizing that would make commercial air travel impossible, for example.
And so what are they doing with the pathogens in those bio labs?
And does the Biden administration have a manifest?
Do they know exactly what's in those labs?
And will they turn it over to the Trump administration so we can keep track of these things?
And the answer is no, actually.
The answer is no.
I know this.
So that's like the scariest thing that's ever happened.
Ukraine war has the potential to destabilize the world more than anything that's happened in my lifetime.
What the hell?
That's why I'm saying this right now, because I hope this is widely disseminated, because I think it's like the scariest thing I've heard in a long, long time.
So, what you just heard there described is a continuation of what we already know, right?
USAID funded these BioLabs, in part, and helped funnel the money to them, right?
And those labs were not just made, or did not just aid in the development of things like COVID, but also other pathogens, which we don't know where they all are now.
That country's been torn asunder, and who knows?
If the weapons are being sold onto the black market, as we are clearly aware of, acutely aware of, you know, the weapons that we send in aid packages to the Ukrainians, How do you think the generals are getting rich over there?
They're taking those weapons packages, they're selling them to not just cartels, not just the Mexican cartels, but they're selling them on the black market to anybody who has the money.
I mean, we're talking about African warlords, we're talking about the Iranian military, we're talking about ISIS, we're talking about anyone who...
Has the money to purchase these things.
They're getting access to these weapons on the secondary market, the black market.
And as Tucker points out, you know, you have these weapons of mass destruction, these biological weapons, which could be anywhere at this point on the black market as well.
And never forget that the person who was in charge of USAID under the Biden administration was a woman by the name of Samantha Powers.
Now, if you don't know Samantha Powers, she's a very controversial figure, to put it mildly.
She is a deep state crony, Obama lackey.
I think she had a movie made after her in Hollywood where she was glamorized for, you know...
Helping create ISIS and then go fight it, you know, quote-unquote, while arming the moderate, quote-unquote, rebels who are also ISIS to fight other ISIS rebels.
It's like these people are sick, sadistic, twisted, evil people, okay?
And she was the one who was charged of USAID, and that should tell you everything you need to know about USAID and what its primary function was.
Here's a great exchange between Samantha Power and Rand Paul.
Listen to this.
Ms. Powers, did USAID fund coronavirus research in Wuhan, China?
We did not fund gain-of-function research, as you know.
The question is, did you fund coronavirus research in Wuhan, China?
Before my time, there was the PREDICT program with which you're familiar, which ended in China in 2019. This is a $200 million program, and the GAO has also identified that some of these grants went directly to the Wuhan Institute of Virology, where there is a suspicion that the lab leak began that began the pandemic.
Has USAID awarded funds to the Academy of Military Medical Sciences in China?
Not to my knowledge, but I'd have to give up.
I think the answer is, once again, yes.
GAO has found that there have been subawards of NIH money, probably as well as USAID money, that went to the Academy of, not just medical research, military medical research in China.
Now, part of the unknowns here is we can't get the records to look at this.
So I've been asking for months and months for records.
In September of last year, I wrote Ms. Powers, USAID, a request asking for records from the PREDICT program.
These are not classified.
These are simply records of scientific research, and we want to read the grants to find out what they were doing and whether the research was dangerous or not.
The response I got from your agency was, USAID will not be providing any documents at this time.
They're just unwilling to give documents on scientific grant proposal.
We're paying for it.
They're asking for $745 million more in money, and we get no response.
So two weeks ago, the ranking member, Rish, myself, and 25 other Republican senators, unfortunately, so far, signed a letter once again.
It's still no response.
We're not asking for classified information.
We're not asking for anything unusual.
20 million people died around the world.
You're supposed to be an agency that cares about the death of people around the world.
We, you know, talk about starvation and famine.
And 20 million people died from a virus, and you won't give us the basic information about what grants you're funding around the world and who you're funding.
Should we be funding the Academy of Military Medical Research in China?
They're now off limits.
But did we fund them?
And who was making the decision?
You know who ran the PREDICT program?
UC Davis.
Have you had any conversations with UC Davis about research in China and whether it was advisable?
So again, to set the record straight, first of all, the PREDICT program ended in 2019. We have people...
And yet it goes on in other forums and other names.
That's certainly not USAID program.
Well, you have a program called Emergency Pandemic Threats Program still, don't you?
If I could just finish in response to the first set of allegations, we have provided hundreds and hundreds of pages of documents related to the PREDICT program for the very reason that you say, because we are in...
Not to us.
We are, again, as I know you had an exchange with Secretary Blinken as well, consistent with longstanding practice.
Not going to give them to us.
We have been responsive to the committees of jurisdiction.
Not going to.
You've been consistent in not giving us any information.
That's not true.
We've provided hundreds of pages in response to the current ranking.
To who?
To the Senate, Homeland Security, and Government Affairs Committee.
For example, we've had extensive engagement with this committee.
We've been requesting this and gotten none of it.
I'm on that committee.
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This is from April 2023, but it tells you everything you need to know about USAID as well.
The thing is, is what we get from you and from the State Department at large is that if Senator Menendez signs it, you'll give us documents.
Until then, you'll give us nothing.
And we have got nothing, zero.
You said we'll not be providing any documents.
I now have 25 senators have sent you a letter and you aren't responding.
And we want to see the scientific grants.
We give you the money.
The taxpayers give you the money.
We deserve to know where the money went, whether it happened.
Look, you're right.
It ended in 2019. When did the virus come about?
In about 2019. Some of the research proposals...
That came about in 2018 where Wuhan Institute of Virology asking for money to create a virus with a furin cleavage site in it.
A coronavirus, a SARS-like virus with a furin cleavage site.
That's exactly what COVID turned out to be.
They wanted money to create such a virus.
So we want to know, are there other research proposals that you either granted or denied that were on the same veins of creating viruses that could have become COVID-19?
We can't tell because you won't give us information.
Again, consistent with long-standing practice, we are providing extensive documentation.
We have a whole team of people.
That's just not true.
Nothing other than look back and predict.
That is not true.
It is factually accurate.
That is not true.
Everything we have asked, we have not gotten.
I have not seen one document on the Predict program.
I understand that.
Again, consistent with common practice across the administration.
Consistent that you're not going to give it to any senators for that.
No, no, no.
We're providing...
All of the kinds of documentation that you're describing.
You are not.
You're being dishonest.
You're being dishonest.
No, I'm not.
We haven't gotten one scrap of paper from you.
Not one scrap of paper.
Again, with the committees of jurisdiction, we are providing all of the paperwork.
You are not.
I'm on the other committee.
I'm the ranking member on the other committee, and I haven't seen a scrap of paper from that committee either.
Well, that is...
See, here's what the American people...
I can tell you what has happened.
Actually, I can't tell you what happens at the committee.
The American people think this.
That because you won't respond, because you respond with a non-response, that you have something to hide.
I don't know if you have anything to hide or not.
I want to see every grant proposal that had to do with coronaviruses that went to China from the U.S. government, from all facets of the U.S. government, and every bit of the Biden administration is stonewalling us and will not give us the information.
It makes us think and makes us suspicious that you're hiding something.
And it wasn't even you.
This was the previous administration.
We go back to...
Two or three administrations.
We just want to see the information.
And yet you sit there and you say we will do something, we are doing something, which is absolutely the opposite of the truth.
You are not being honest.
So I think this is what Marco Rubio was alluding to.
When he talked about USAID's non-cooperation, right?
And how they've basically gone rogue and established within themselves some kind of self-proclaimed authority to supersede any and every sort of oversight the government has built into the check and balance that is, you know, congressional oversight, executive authority, compliance, etc., etc.
So, this is what has been identified.
And Samantha Powers, right?
I mean, these people are all connected to operational aspects of the deep state.
You know, what it does, how it operates.
And that's the whole point.
That's why I think, you know, it's like when we talk about tariffs.
It's not the most sexy or...
Enticing or provocative thing, and it's intentionally framed in such a way to be sort of benign or non-exciting.
It's supposed to be, you know, it sounds like, well...
The USAID, well, it sounds good.
It's the United States aiding people.
It's the Agency for International Development.
Oh, well, we're developing internationally.
That's good.
That means we're growing, right?
No, it is exactly the opposite.
It is one of the centers for the expansion of bureaucratic control over our government, right?
It's how they tap into everything.
It's how they fund their little operations.
It's how they got away with COVID. It's how they got away with all of these crimes against our nation.
And look, when it talks about China, a lot of people will say, well, that was in 2019 under Trump.
Yeah, that's, I think, why Trump's going after it.
Here we are 14 days, 15 days.
Into the Trump presidency.
He's going after it right now within the first two weeks because it has been identified as a blind spot, a weakness that was exploited against him in his first administration.
I think we should give credit where it's due.
And then, you know, you want to blame Trump for not pointing this stuff out.
My gosh, could you imagine the national security implications of all this in totality?
I mean, the reality that the U.S. and their own institutions, their agency for international development, is actually just a front for a rogue element of our government, the bureaucracy, staging a coup.
Against the sitting president and waging this psychological and chemical or biological warfare against the American people.
Of course Trump has to go out there and blame China.
He doesn't, I mean, he cannot say the truth because the truth, people will be rioting in the streets.
Let me ask you a question, and this is a serious question.
And we talk about national security and what it really means.
If Trump came out tomorrow and said, I have uncovered that there is a vast conspiracy within our government using the tools,
resources, and assets of the United States to deploy a biological warfare component You, the Americans,
you the American citizen, and it's being run, funded, and operated through the intelligence agencies, compromised parts of our defense department, compromised elements in our own military, all working in conjunction with our enemy abroad.
China.
Using China as a layer of cover for this operation.
What do you think people would do?
Do you think everybody would just...
I mean, at this point, I hate to say it, but most people are so dumbed down and complacent that they may just scroll to the next story on Twitter and completely forget within 30 seconds, you know, because that's...
You know, they'll go tune into the Grammys and watch some, you know, promiscuous women dance around in scantily clad outfits and then flip on the Super Bowl and watch the scripted outcome of the sports game, the bread and circus, you know, take place.
But I would imagine that people are still awake enough, in this country at least, That they'd be pissed off, and they would be rightfully pissed off, and then they would most likely get together and probably go after the government, and then this would be exactly what they want.
They want a civil war.
They want an excuse to further subjugate and enslave the American people.
They want an excuse to turn the...
Power of the government inward against its own people more aggressively.
So it's a catch-22.
Right?
You're damned if you do, damned if you don't.
And I'm not saying that that's the case.
I'm not saying that that's what happened.
That's for you to decide, not me.
I don't...
I don't know either way.
Okay?
I'm just saying, yeah, that's why Trump doesn't just say, hey, this is what's happening.
He says, China.
It came from China.
Now, whether he's talking about China, the nation, or China, the region of Ukraine, where there was a biolab, apparently, or he's talking about both, I don't know.
Doesn't, I guess, matter, really, at this point.
To quote Hillary Clinton at this point, what difference does it make?
Right?
The point is, That Trump's in a position now where he's made mistakes and he's trying to make good choices going in the future.
And in any battle of this nature, there's a sort of triage that takes place.
When you walk into a disaster zone and they set up a medical...
You know, or an ER, right?
An ER. Every night they basically do what is known as triage, right?
You prioritize the level or the immediacy of care based on the necessity of the patient.
So if some guy walks in with a broken arm and some other guy walks in five minutes later with...
A gunshot wound to the chest.
The guy with the gunshot wound to the chest goes ahead of the guy with the broken arm.
And so on and so forth, working its way down.
Well, in that same way, Trump's walked into a triage situation where he has to decide which are the most important levers of power that need to be reined in.
So he's decided USAID. He started off with the border, obviously an imminent threat.
Now he's moved on to how money flows into these aid organizations that then go and manipulate and undermine and create subterfuge against U.S. diplomatic interests abroad and U.S. aid.
And as we go down the line, surely we will touch on organizations like the Fed.
And the IRS and Department of Education and so on and so forth down the line because those are less priority than the imminent threats which are placed against the American people.
And this is why people are getting desperate.
This is, in my opinion, take it with a grain of salt, why planes are falling out of the sky, why Black Hawk helicopters are ramming into air jets, why, you know, disasters.
You know, pop up out of nowhere, fires, etc.
Because there's a level of urgency behind it, a desperation.
And cornered animals are the most violent, vicious, and desperate.
And this is what we're dealing with.
We're cornering these quote-unquote animals, not to be dehumanizing, but that's what the analogy calls for.
They are lashing out.
They are acting in self-defense, self-preservation mode.
And this is the battle that's being waged.
Now, it's the same thing with the vaccines.
If you want to go down that route, because people say, well, why does Trump say the vaccines are so great?
Why does he promote the vaccines?
Why did he just create a U.S. sovereign fund that is going to benefit from the vaccine makers getting billions of dollars and the U.S. investing in it and then enriching themselves from it?
Well, there's a number of reasons for that, I would imagine, and I'm not going to say that Trump's perfect and that he has figured it all out, but if I had to take a guess or stab at it, I would say it's very similar to the whole COVID-19 came from China thing.
What do you think would happen from just purely a national security standpoint?
What would the reaction of the people be if you came out tomorrow and said, if Trump came up on television and said, yes, you were all right.
Pfizer, Albert Bourla, the executives of the top pharmaceutical countries in the country who manufacture drugs that do save lives, by the way, that do keep people alive.
Put a vaccine out there with some nefarious intent behind it to murder or depopulate people.
Do you think people would just sit back or do you think there would be pitchforks and torches heading toward every Pfizer, every CVS pharmacy in the country?
Every Walgreens pharmacy?
So just think about these things before you say what you say.
I don't know.
Stay tuned.
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And, you know, we're talking about this whole USAID thing.
We've kind of gone down a rabbit hole with the whole idea of COVID-19 and what the relation was there and then the bioweapons that existed in these USAID-funded biolabs in Ukraine, which now probably have circulated across the black market and could be used against us at any time.
And that would be the complete irony of it all.
If our own taxpayer dollars were, again, used to develop bioweapons, which were then unleashed against us, that would just be, you know, par for the course at this point, unfortunately, for all of us.
But, you know, I was talking about the implications of telling the public the truth about certain things, like COVID-19, and particularly the vaccine issue.
Because whether people like it or not, I know that the overwhelming sentiment, and I agree to a degree, is that, you know, all big pharma companies are evil.
They just want to keep you sick, and they want to, you know, exploit you, extract your wealth generationally through keeping you sick and dying.
But I cannot say in good conscience that all of the blame lies with them.
Yes, they may have very bad motivations.
Yes, they may be driven by corporate greed, profit, whatever.
Yes, they may even to a degree withhold certain cures that could, you know, sometimes they'll buy a patent on a medicine and then not release it because it's more profitable to keep people on a different medicine that keeps them a little bit sicker so that they can remain And that kind of stuff, I think, is detestable and horrible and heinous.
So don't get me wrong.
But, for instance, as I said before, if Trump comes out and says, yes, big pharma is to blame, the vaccines were bad, depopulation, they hate you, they want you dead, what do you think people are going to do?
You think they're just going to sit and rest on their laurels and just not do anything?
Yeah, they would be up in arms, they would be mad, they'd be pissed off.
They would probably go pitchforks and torches and burn down the CVSs and the Walgreens and all the pharmacies and target the people who, you know, administered the vaccines.
And there are perhaps some of you out there that say, well, what's the big deal about that?
Well, I guess nothing other than the fact that you'd be, in doing so, you'd be signing the death certificate of millions of people.
Innocent people who had nothing to do with that, people who rely on the medicine from those institutions, that for better or worse, whether there is some profit scheme behind it to keep you sick, for better or worse, those medicines keep people alive.
That they use daily.
You may be one of those people who has a pharmacy from which you get a medicine which helps keep you alive every day or keep you, you know, to mitigate the effect of some chronic illness or disease.
Right?
So if you think about it in those terms, of course Trump has to come out and say the vaccines were good.
Of course he has to come out and say the virus came from China.
Of course, of course, of course.
But he can also simultaneously go after, for instance, he can go after the USAID and identify it for what it is.
He can shut down the border and identify the source of fentanyl and this scourge on America.
Perhaps.
He can do all of these things.
Alright, looks like we have a caller.
Sounds like somebody's interested to comment.
Caller, you're on the air.
What do you got?
Hey, Greg.
Lovely show.
Brother, you know, I very rarely disagree with you.
Yep.
And nothing personal, but I have to disagree.
I think that Americans have become placid.
We are, you know, And I think a lot of that may have to do with, you know, love your neighbor and, you know, be kind to people who are trying to kill you.
But at the same time, I mean, we've seen how many things now, even, you know, the January 6th peaceful protest.
You know, I have to say that probably back in the day before we, you know, before we become so civilized, I think it probably would have been a real insurrection, you know, a real violent overthrow.
And we don't see that.
I mean, the most we see, even in, you know, these school meetings, is parents talking.
You know, they might get a little heated, but they're not doing anything.
And, I mean, they've had horrible things done to their children through a lot of these schools.
So I just...
I understand.
I think I get what you're saying.
And I think your remark on the placid nature of people, I think, to a point, I will concur.
But I would just argue counter to what you're saying that what is the alternative, right?
Because you're basically, at that point, you're saying that we should get rid of law and order.
We should get rid of...
The system that we understand and we work within.
And then that would lead to chaos and anarchy and violence the likes of which this country hasn't seen for a very long time that I don't think we're prepared for.
And particularly, I don't think we're prepared for anything like that, given what we've seen our culture being inundated by pervasively, like the hedonism, the self-love, the, you know, lack or the complete disregard for, you you know, lack or the complete disregard for, you know, morality and decency.
I mean, if we really do go to anarchy, those people, unfortunately, for better or worse, outnumber us.
And, you know, in an all-out, no-holds-barred contest, you know, it is basically brute force and majority rule.
This is our system.
This is why we have to preserve it.
This is how we fix it.
It may take a long time.
It may suck.
It may seem unfair.
But there's no reasonable alternative to me where things don't just fly out of control immediately.
Like, you could have the best intentions with it and say, we're going to save everyone immediately.
But it would fly off the handle so quickly that This is the only way.
The way Trump's doing it, for better or worse, whether you like it or not, is the only way to do it if we even want to have a chance at preserving peace, stability, strength, not just abroad, but domestically.
The things which, you know, you get up every day, you turn on the lights and the light switch comes on.
You turn on your water tap, the water comes out.
You, you know, you turn on the gas for your stove and it turns on.
You want that stuff?
You've got to keep the society going, and I'm not saying it's a great scenario.
I'm not saying I want it.
I'm saying I do want that, but I'm saying it's not the ideal scenario, but it's just where we're at.
Is that fair?
Craig, I mean, it's human nature, and that, unfortunately, is the truth of it.
You know, if you've read the book, you know how it ends, but it is, yeah, we could...
We could, you know, keep everybody happy and have free energy and everybody could be healthy and things could be wonderful, but there's still going to be, you know, you can call them elites, you can call them corrupt, whatever you want to call them, evil, that are still going to want to, you know, destroy people.
And they're still going to want to have, you know, their greed.
I agree with you, too.
Pretty much 100%.
I know what you were saying.
I kind of understand.
You're like, it doesn't change the fact that it's wrong what they're doing.
And I think that was kind of your point in that people are essentially allowing it to happen to a degree.
I get that.
That's frustrating.
I'm angry, too.
You know?
Yeah, we have to do, but I don't, you know, I don't think we'll use them.
I know.
Because if we were to use them, we would have already used them, and I don't think anybody wants to start open that can.
Yep, and we're hitting a break.
Thank you for the call.
I really appreciate that.
That was very insightful.
Thanks for calling in.
Thanks, brother.
All right.
All right, we'll we'll be back.
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I just want to make a correction to something I said with that caller we had on earlier because I think he had a good point, and it was a point of disagreement, but I think we found some kind of medium.
I said that we're outnumbered and that they have the majority against us, and I want to clarify, I do not believe that we are outnumbered, but I believe that we are at a strategic disadvantage.
Because the system has been skewed to favor certain individuals for so long and certain groups for so long, that it's created a strategic disadvantage that if the system were to skew away from working in the way that we know and understand it to work, and it went to anarchy and chaos, that they would, by effect of that...
Can system bias have a strategic advantage and make it nearly impossible for us to overcome the onslaught which would be thrown at us in that scenario, right?
Just wanted to clarify that.
But it looks like we have another caller.
Let's bring him on real quick.
Caller, you're on there.
What do you got?
Yes, good morning, Craig.
Talking about vaccines, China...
It's my understanding that they pulled the Gardasil vaccination, and I don't know if anybody besides Merck is offering Gardasil, but it's off the market in China.
So that's a plus.
One thing I would like to say is I have to view everything in real simple terms.
If you put 50 red ants and 50 black ants in a jar, and you just leave them sit there, they're doing their own thing, they're not...
Paying attention to one another.
But if somebody comes over and shakes that jar, they all start fighting.
And the question should be, who is shaking the jar?
And you can insert your own opinion in that.
But the people that are shaking the jar are now shaking the government down.
And it's the reverse of...
What was the guy?
Overwhelm the system.
And I think there's so much things going on right now that the Democrats have just lost their minds over some simple facts.
And it comes down to common sense.
If you believe that everything is downstream from culture, which is a pretty common idea, concept, how do you control culture and what the media, music, Whatever, insert your own whatever.
But they're losing control of the control of culture, which is really shocking them to the core.
So the people that are shaking the jar, well, first of all, they want us to be fighting among themselves.
The reason for that is we're less likely to question the guy shaking the jar.
So anyway...
What a great show.
And earlier in your show, you did a great explanation about USAID and the understanding of that.
And Mike Benz, he is spot on as far as I'm concerned.
So anyway, you have a great show.
And if you have any questions for me, I'll stand by or I'll listen offline.
No, I mean, I would just, to respond, I think you kind of hit on three different things there.
So to respond to the vaccine thing, I do agree that, you know, it's good when vaccines are bad that they're, you know, gotten rid of.
I think that's good.
If it's China doing it, you know, I'll say it's good.
If there's anyone doing it, that's a good thing.
To my point I didn't get to make about the vaccines earlier, it was also a point I wanted to make that, you know, when Trump says what he says about the vaccines, he's always been also very clear that there's a choice, right?
You have a choice whether you take it or not.
And that's the difference, I guess, between, you know, an authoritarian, communist type of control scenario where they say, you know, we tell you what you can and can't take, we tell you what can and can't be brought to market, and our system of, you know, sort of free choice more, capitalism, etc., where there is a choice.
You know, it's like you go to McDonald's, like nobody's going to make you go to McDonald's, right?
You don't have to go eat a Big Mac.
If you eat a Big Mac, you're probably going to have some health problems because it's probably not the healthiest food.
If you eat a bunch of Big Macs, you probably will have a bunch of health problems.
If you take a bunch of vaccines, but then that gets into a gray area where the government says, you know, you have to vaccinate your kids and mandatory vaccinations to keep your job.
That's what the whole pushback was against, and I think Trump's always been on the right side of that argument.
But that's to talk about the vaccines.
To then go into the USAID stuff, what was the thing in between there?
I'm sorry, I kind of lost track.
Oh, the ants in the jar.
The ants in the jar.
Okay.
So I think with the ants in the jar scenario, you're right.
I think you were referencing the Cloward-Piven strategy in that.
Yes, sir.
Thank you very much.
Right.
And I think you were also, you quoted Andrew Breitbart there with, that was pretty good.
I like that.
Politics is downstream culture.
So I think in all of those different arenas, you're very much right that they keep us fighting against one another.
And to a degree, I think you're 100% right.
We have to look upward and see who's shaking the jar.
That's for sure what we need to do.
With the USAID thing and how that ties into the government and how we're all being shaken against each other, I think...
Yeah, you're right.
The Democrats right now are putting on the theater, right?
The spectacle.
They need to create this theater.
And trust me, it's only going to get worse because every time Trump takes an action against one of these different number of entities, whether it's USAID, Department of Education, IRS, you know, you name it.
Go down the whole list, right?
I went through a few more earlier.
Then they're going to keep forming this narrative.
They're going to keep building this narrative.
And it's going to...
It's going to hit a climax point where I think, and I've made this prediction before, they're going to bring back those riots.
They're going to bring back those, you know, as Mike Benz calls them, the rent-a-riots.
But the same thing that we do abroad is what's been done to our country.
We look back at Black Lives Matter and Antifa and realize they were...
Running operations identical to what we've run in other countries as destabilizing operations to run coups.
That's what happened in 2020. I would say you could mark my words that they'll try to bring back, but like I said, Trump's a little wiser.
He's a little smarter.
I think that's why he's going after USAID. He's got the triage list of important things.
This is a blind spot.
He missed...
USAID and the funding programs, NGOs, they were what was the vector of attack they used in 2020 to blindside them.
That's how they got in.
So, we're two weeks in.
Border, USAID, he is taking the deep state and going at the jugular.
This is why they're going to freak out and panic, and I think it's going to accelerate timelines.
But I hope that is a good response to everything you contributed there.
If I missed anything, I apologize.
Yes, sir.
That's very good.
And also, in my opinion, it comes down to equal opportunity or equal outcomes.
And I think that's really what the left, right, whatever you want to call them, is fighting over.
Do you want equal opportunity?
Or do you want equal outcomes?
No, I think we all want equal opportunity.
I really do.
And I think the outcome thing is communism, basically.
So, thanks for the call.
Always appreciate it.
We're hitting our break.
We're going to come back, do our God's Graces Greater segment, and leave you guys with that for the day.
Alright, stay tuned.
Thanks for the call.
We'll see you on the other side of the break.
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Okay, so let's take a second, though, and go to Scripture, because this is where we need to go.
Everything I've talked about today, it's good to understand what's happening in the world.
I think it prepares us, not just so that we are aware, but so that we're prepared and we can help others.
We can help others with the gospel.
That's the primary way we can help people because guess what?
We're all leaving this earth the same.
We're all not going to be here forever.
That's the thing that some people don't want to believe, but it is true.
And you have to make a decision where you want to go afterwards.
And this is why we go to Scripture and we have our faith in God and Christ, His sons, because we understand that eternal salvation has been bought and paid for.
But this is a great verse in Romans 15 is where we are now.
And it talks about pleasing others and not ourselves.
I want to share this.
This is verse 1 through 6 in Romans chapter 15. It says, Now we who are strong have an obligation to bear the weaknesses of those without strength and not to please ourselves.
Each one of us must please his neighbor for his good to build him up.
For even the Messiah did not please himself.
On the contrary, as it is written, the insults of those who insult you have fallen on me.
For whatever was written in the past was written for our instruction so that we may have hope through endurance and through the encouragement from the scriptures.
Now may the God who gives endurance and encouragement allow you to live in harmony with one another according to the commands of Christ Jesus so that you may glorify God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ with a united mind and voice.
And I love this verse particularly because it was mentioned earlier that perhaps one of our weaknesses is our desire to live at peace with one another.
And for some, if you don't have a strong relationship with Christ, that might be the case.
But I would argue, as a believer myself, Wanting to live at peace with one another is what separates us from those who are not looking toward life from an eternal sense.
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