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We're going to go through the news, and to do that, we're going to be joined by our very special guest co-host.
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Nick Ngo, Benghazi whistleblower, U.S. Air Force veteran, military intelligence insider, and amazing person all around.
Nick, it's good to have you on the show with us today.
How are you?
Thank you, Craig.
I'm doing great.
It's a beautiful morning here.
Just had my coffee and I'm ready to go.
All right.
Yeah, we're all caffeinated and ready.
So that's always a positive thing.
But, you know, talking about the news...
It was day.
What's that?
What's that?
Oh, sorry.
There's a lag, but it's going to be...
Okay.
Well, you're breaking up, so that's okay.
We'll figure that out.
Hopefully it'll...
That'll dissipate as we go further.
But, um, there are a lot of things to cover in today's show.
We're talking about, um, a little bit about the Luigi Mangione thing.
The United Healthcare CEO, uh, assassin is in custody.
Alleged assassin, at least.
We haven't had a jury or a trial yet to decide whether or not he is guilty.
However, uh, Most people are running with the story anyway, saying this is the assassin.
We've got him.
Now, I talked about this a lot in yesterday's show, Nick, and, you know, we talked about it in our pre-meeting a little bit today.
But since you weren't here with us yesterday and you have some thoughts on it, just briefly give your thoughts on Luigi Mangione, the whole situation.
What's your take on it?
Well, so the CEO, I found out yesterday, the CEO of the UnitedHealth, he was actually working with Nancy Pelosi on a project.
That was published yesterday.
It was in an interview, like some sort of interview with the guy.
Am I still staying in the...
Can you hear me well?
Yeah, I can hear you well now, but I just want to make a programming note, which I made yesterday.
So there is a video online.
That is circulating.
That is showing a man by the name of Brian Thompson giving a speech where he talks about working with Nancy Pelosi.
Now, what has come out from that, which is just the craziest thing, Nick.
The guy's name is Brian Thompson, yes.
The guy is a high-ranking tech CEO, yes.
But it is not in fact the same Brian Thompson that was murdered.
It is actually a different Brian Thompson.
He is a tech CEO of a tech company in Silicon Valley, and it is a different.
But what's crazy, Nick, is I understand why people are confused, because this guy is named Brian Thompson.
He's an executive who works with Nancy Pelosi.
But Nancy Pelosi is connected to this story still nonetheless, who also could happen to be the doppelganger for Brian Thompson.
You can't make this stuff up.
He may be his, like, long-lost twin brother, You know what I mean?
So I understand the confusion there.
But nonetheless, Nancy Pelosi is still directly connected to this through her investment in Palo Alto Networks.
Which was the cybersecurity firm that was contracted to do the investigation into the cyber attack on UnitedHealthcare shortly after they were ransomware attacked and gave away a $22 million crypto ransom in Bitcoin and also had the company lose over $700 million.
And that was all insider trading, and that connects back directly to Nancy Pelosi.
But the thread that you were pulling on, I kind of went down that for a second too because it's very misleading.
It looks and sounds just like Brian Thompson, and the guy's name is Brian Thompson, but it's a different Brian Thompson.
And isn't it strange, Craig, that the guy's name is clearly, I think, Italian, Luigi Mangione.
Okay, so remember what we talked about and how the mafia has to bless anything that goes down inside the city, and the Jewish mafia, too, for that matter, because they're both equally as powerful there now.
So this Luigi Mangione guy, he's the suspect.
He's friends with Moses Hetfield, and there's only a few people he's friends with on Facebook or whatever.
And Hetfield is one of Mangione's Facebook friends.
They grew up right down the street from each other in Maryland.
And Moses is the son of Mark Hetfield.
And Mark Hatfield is the president of the Jewish organization NGO HIAS. Okay, so if anybody remembers this, the listeners, HIAS has been paying the illegal immigrants to come to America.
And I think it's Israeli...
And just Jewish owners in general, too.
I think Jewish people can donate, too, to the NGO. I'm not 100% sure, but it's NGO Israeli.
And, of course, the guy who's in charge of our homeland security is good friends with this guy, of course.
And they help with the illegal immigrants coming to the United States.
And the funding came from DHS, the money that they're getting.
And Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas was on the board of HIAS before he was appointed as DHS Secretary by Joe Biden.
Moses' mother is Miriam Hetfield who works with DHS with Alejandro Mayorkas.
She works in citizenship and immigration services.
What are the odds of all of this going down with one of the guy's best friends being a part of the people who are the deep state?
What are the odds of that?
Yeah, I mean, I don't know if we can infer they were best friends, but they were acquaintances at minimum, and that speaks volumes, especially to the point you were making that there weren't many friends associated with Luigi via Facebook, and then to make that connection so quickly and so closely really does raise a lot of questions when you can find that little degree of separation between I
think it's a combination of things I talked about in yesterday's show.
We talked about it a little bit in the pre-meeting today.
But, you know, we'll put a...
We'll put a little bow on this as far as what we know so far when we come back, and then we'll get into some other stories because we have a lot more to cover.
But yeah, strange coincidences that should be looked at more closely, I believe, but we'll have to wait and see.
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I'm your host, Craig James, with Nick Ngo.
Nick, you know, we're talking about this Luigi Mangione character.
And, you know, here's one of my takes on it that, you know, really is something that's disturbing me.
And maybe you can speak to this just as far as general, you know, ideas.
Because I'm trying to figure this one out for myself.
You have this character, right, who...
It obviously pops up out of nowhere, disappears, then pops back up, and conveniently...
I mean, some of the things that they're telling us about this case are insane, especially, like, for instance...
This guy, they say he printed his own gun with a 3D printer.
That suggests a high level of intellect, which we've already established, via the bona fides of his educational background.
He's Ivy League educated.
He has multiple degrees.
He's valedictorian of his high school class.
And they pick him up at a McDonald's.
With a backpack that's got the gun that he still has the gun on him that he used for the murder and a 270-ish page manifesto saying not only did he do it but he did it alone.
And it really just smells like a lot of people are making the comparison to, for instance, Ted Kaczynski, right?
And we all know that it's come out in where we're at now, that Ted Kaczynski and Charles Manson and all these other guys were actually a part of MKUltra Experimentations.
It's true, yeah.
And that's why I've made this inference that I think, and not only me, but people who text into the show, by the way, if you want to text, the lines are open, 877-536-1360 is the number.
We'd love to hear your thoughts on all of this.
Basically, this guy was some sort of MKUltra, Patsy, Manchurian candidate scenario where he was trained to do this hit.
And I said yesterday, in the show yesterday, that it was a proof of concept.
That if they could train somebody with no criminal background, Ivy League educated, you know, the, you know, very wealthy, low inclination toward violence, it seems, in a short period of time to go and do this targeted assassination.
I mean, that has ramifications for other things societally, including, you know, but not limited to, of course, Donald Trump and his administration and the obvious threats on his life.
So that was my read on the situation.
And then on top of it all, to see how the left are lionizing, idolizing, and romanticizing this guy, Luigi, in such a perverse way, first of all, but also in like this sick sort of, you know, but also in like this sick sort of, you know, maniacal ego.
evil way to say, you know, we're so happy he murdered this guy in cold blood.
Look, There's a part of every person out there who understands how corrupt some of these agencies are, right?
The insurance companies, etc.
But with indiscriminate violence, as it was in this case, which was just, oh, this guy's a CEO. I'm going to murder him in cold blood without even as much as an investigation into what he's doing.
That kind of, you know, violence is really reprehensible to a civil society, right?
And people are cheering it on blindly, and not only that, they're romanticizing this figure in Luigi.
This all very much reeks, to me, of some kind of PSYOP MKUltra operation, because this is like, they're...
I have clips I could play here.
For instance, this is Jimmy Kimmel last night.
And this is sick to me.
This made my stomach turn when I listened to this.
But it's so true.
He's reading text messages from people who work on his show about this cold-blooded murderer assassin because he happens to be handsome to some people, I guess.
Listen to this.
So many women and so many men are going nuts over how good-looking this killer is.
And there's a huge wave of horny washing over us right now.
It's like when one of the guys you work with says, I had a dream about you last night.
When it's the FedEx guy with the big muscles and the rolled-up sleeves, you're like, oh!
But if it's the bald IT guy wearing Crocs with black socks, you're on the phone with HR. It's kind of...
That same dynamic.
Our staff today, I have never experienced anything like this.
These are screen grabs of actual exchanges between our members of our staff and their friends, relatives, whatever.
I've changed the names to protect the guilty, but let's see.
Lorraine C. asks, do you guys think the United Healthcare CEO killer is hot?
Friend replies, yes.
I love Luigi.
I think he's gay though.
This is an exchange between two of our producers.
We'll call them Elphaba and Glinda.
My TikTok is flooded.
My mom chain's going nuts.
That's my TikTok.
Everyone is obsessed.
People are saying a New York jury has the power to find him innocent because we all love him.
I'm not mad at him.
This one's from Suzy D. She got hurt.
This text from her mother.
Am I the only person wondering that if the gunman had tweezed and reshaped his eyebrows, he would have never been caught?
Aha, good point.
His eyebrows are very defined.
Please tell me you're as obsessed as I am with this handsome CEO killer.
Yes!
So many questions!
Like, can I fix you?
And Veronica says, I need him so bad.
No, like, so bad.
So, so bad.
Okay, so I would visit him in prison and bake him cookies, maybe.
Perhaps more, but I haven't thought that far ahead.
And it's not just women.
This is from the husband of one of our staffers.
Did you see the assassin?
Yes, I'm so upset.
Like, excuse me, LOL. I'm about to be a jailhouse bride.
Because damn Shorty is so fine.
I'm dead or willing to be.
And one more from a young woman in our segment department.
Texting all my friends in New York that I hope they get called to jury duty.
God, I want to do jury duty so bad.
Well, at least it's stirring up a passion for civic duty, I guess.
What is going on?
There are dozens of...
Products for sale on Etsy with his face on them.
There are look-alike contests.
There's Luigi Mangione Crypto.
People are making fan cams.
Do you know what these are?
I learned about this thing.
These are tribute montages like this.
Alright, you get the point.
So...
Nick, so this evokes a lot of things in me as far as, you know, what I think this is as far as understanding.
You know how they do like A-B testing in, you know, tech when they're rolling out a product, a new app or something, they'll start doing their A-B testing and, you know, beta testing and all that stuff.
Sure.
So, my theory, it actually goes even deeper than what we talked about before.
It goes into this idea that this is setting a societal, you know, construct that if the kid...
Like, imagine if, God forbid, somebody assassinated Trump, but he also happened to be a handsome, Ivy League-educated, you know, person like this Luigi character.
The left would, you know...
I mean, could you imagine?
Because this same scenario, just replace Brian Thompson with Trump, right?
And in the same scenario, and I don't think the reaction would be that much different.
Do you know what I mean?
And I think they're A-B testing on how they can do it without destroying their legitimacy.
Do you understand what I'm saying?
Because again, this is all a diversion away from all of these connections that we've already made.
You know, the Mayorkas connection, the sort of deep state implications to it all.
I mean, all this stuff is just being ignored.
And as a matter of fact, it's being completely, the attention is being diverted away from because Jimmy Kimmel is talking about, and his staff are talking about how handsome this guy is.
I don't know exactly how to understand this fully yet.
I'm still putting the pieces together in my mind.
But I can tell you right now, it is very disturbing, not only to see this happening, but I mean, think about how sick these people are.
This guy just murdered some random person in cold blood, and they're, you know, fangirling over him on national television.
I've never seen anything like this before.
Well, I kind of expected that, Craig.
Honestly, the first day we were looking at these images here, as I was saying, the...
You called it.
You called it.
Yeah.
The brow ridge fits the face, the ratio 1.618.
Yeah, so that's why I knew right away that that was going to be a major distraction.
But one thing you can notice, though, is if you go look at these photos, this guy has a unibrow, all right?
This...
Mangione guy.
He has a unibrow and if you look at the distance between the eyebrows on the brow ridge...
From the images that were first released, the very first ones that were just kind of from the top, and you can see the nose and brow ridge, they don't match.
This guy's brow ridge has at least a distance of, it looks like, two to three inches in between eyebrows, and then this guy's are touching.
He has a unibrow.
Well, think about this.
Remember the story that we were just told last Friday from Judith Berry Baker about Lee Harvey Oswald and how he was a patsy and how he was set up?
He was set up because, or by the intelligence agency because he figured out he was going to be a Patsy, right, according to her story.
And when he became the Patsy, there wasn't much he could do at that point because he was working for the CIA. What if Luigi was working with the CIA before all this?
Right?
I say it's high probability considering, or Mossad.
Or Mossad.
Let's say, hypothetically, he's working with Mossad.
That's why he can't just go scream, I'm innocent.
it was just like the same reason Lee Harvey Oswald couldn't say he was innocent because he would have to say they would say well why are you innocent he would have to say well because I was working for the CIA and he knew he would be killed right that was why he was in the double he had the double jeopardy thing there where it was like he couldn't profess his innocence really Because in order to do that, he would have to expose his cover, which would definitely make him dead, a dead man walking.
And in the same case, perhaps, this Luigi guy, if it is the same person as did the actual hit, which we don't even know that, but even if it's not and he is just the patsy, then it would stand a reason that that same scenario could be playing out.
Yeah, absolutely.
And as you were saying, though, this guy is top of his class.
This is how they recruit these guys.
He's top of the class.
He's a single guy.
He's top of the class.
He's wealthy.
Yeah.
This is like...
Perfect.
Ideal candidate.
Yeah, it's your ideal candidate for someone because this is the type of guy that would have enough money to travel internationally if he wanted to for a vacation or whatever, and it would be a perfect cover story.
And they keep telling us that he was a remote worker.
They don't tell us who he worked for.
That's right.
Maybe he worked for Booz Allen Hamilton remotely.
Or you get the point.
Maybe.
You know?
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know, what's really funny is that one guy we were talking about, um, the Mark Hetfield, um, you got Moses Hetfield who is related.
It's his son, Mark, to Mark Hetfield.
It's his friend, uh, Mangione.
But then that Mark Hetfield guy on his page says, welcome stranger, protect the refugee, uh, For we were once strangers ourselves.
And he doesn't put the word God.
He leaves out the O. He puts G hyphen D. Told us this 36 times.
Listen.
Retweet.
So that has to do with, I think, his faith.
But if you look at his image, it's actually of the Ukrainian flag.
All right?
So full circle.
Full circle, Ukraine is involved with all of this stuff.
I think that he probably got trained.
Think about this.
What if he got trained in northern Syria with those other quote-unquote Antifa people?
Remember how concerned I was that they would allow the Kurds to train?
And the Russians allowed it too.
They allowed all these Antifa people to go to the Kurds to get trained and then leave.
They didn't do anything to stop them.
And yet neither country did that.
So that means it was an intelligence op.
Okay.
And if that's the case, then it's very likely that this guy has been to Syria at one time in his life.
And if they find that out, wouldn't it be interesting if just because this guy got caught, they're like, "Oh my gosh, our cover's blown.
We've got to move in Syria now." And then they move there.
They took over Syria to prevent any information coming out from northern Syria being connected to it.
And also, of course, Ukraine and the CIA. I don't know.
All right.
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And I didn't know that we were going to spend this much time on this, Nick, but Golly, the things that we kind of peel back the layers on when we get together, it's rather crazy.
And I'm not so...
I'm not fully convinced that, you know...
I know the official story probably isn't true, given what we've uncovered just so far.
But, man, it is crazy that we had Jim Scott and Judith Ferry Baker on the last two Fridays.
And we really talked a lot about the crazy story behind the JFK assassination.
And I see so many similarities between...
You know, this Luigi guy and Lee Harvey Oswald, and I know it's, you know, apples to oranges in regard to, you know, the level of assassination, right?
One's a president, one's just the CEO of a healthcare company, but still, there could be some overlap in the stories there, especially like you said, if it ties to either U.S. intelligence or some foreign intelligence agency like MI6 or Mossad, You know, there's a lot to unpack in all of that, right?
Yeah, especially considering Nancy Pelosi and her brother Thomas D. Alessandro III are connected to Luigi Mangione, the murder suspect, and the death of Unite Healthcare.
CEO Brian Thompson through his grandfather, Nicholas Mangione.
In 1989, Washington Post's article, DeSala D'Alessandro, the former mayor of Baltimore, defended Nicholas Mangione's reputation, calling him a big-hearted, Despite investigations into human rights violations and regulatory shortcuts tied to his business practices, this becomes even more interesting because Nancy Pelosi made a suspicious trade the same day UnitedHealth had cyber attack and the company she traded was chosen to investigate the breach.
Isn't that weird?
Yeah, Palo Alto Networks.
It's a wild story.
What you said before is something that sticks out to me where a lot of people are saying that this Luigi guy and the guy who did the hit may be different people.
And that...
It is like exactly what most people believe, or a lot of people, maybe not most, but a lot of people believe happened with JFK where Lee Harvey Oswald was a patsy and there were other shooters involved.
There were other people, you know, who actually pulled the trigger.
And...
Like I said, I mean, this guy just shows up at a McDonald's in Altoona, Pennsylvania, with a 270-page manifesto saying, I did it and I acted alone, and the gun, you know what I mean, and everything on him that they would need to basically make a case to put him away for the rest of his life.
Again, if he was, hypothetically, in that scenario with Lee Harvey Oswald, the reason he couldn't scream out, like, I'm innocent, and tell on everyone was because he had been working for the agency, and he knew that if he said anything about the agency's involvement, that he was definitely going to be killed.
So he had to just shut his mouth and hope that the evidence would pan out that he didn't actually do it.
But they never even got that far because he was assassinated, obviously, by Jack Ruby as he was leaving the police station, right?
In this scenario, I said, I don't know how long it'll be until this kid gets Epstein'd if they do that route.
But even if they don't, I mean, hypothetically, if he is involved with any of these intelligence agencies, he has to know that he can't use that as a defense.
That would be...
Basically, again, signing his own death warrant.
He has to hope that perhaps the system will work in his favor, which, you know, who knows?
Maybe he was...
You know, could you imagine?
They're like, okay, wear this mask, here, hold this bag, and somebody's going to meet you here in like 20 minutes to pick this up from you.
It's like his last assignment...
waiting for another, you know, intelligence agent to come pick up the bag.
And then the police show up and he's got this bag and they're like, hey, what's this kid?
And he's like, what?
You know what I mean?
What, dude?
That sounds like a more plausible scenario, because why else would he be sitting there with a bag like that?
That's what I'm saying, dude.
Rich people don't eat at McDonald's?
No.
I'm telling you, that's why this whole story stinks to high heaven.
Because I, I mean, like, just, it's crazy that we had...
Maybe there's a little influence in my mind from listening to Lee Harvey Oswald's crazy stories over the last few weeks, but imagine you're this guy, right?
You work for the intelligence agency.
You have this back problem, so just like Lee Harvey Oswald, they're not going to invest in moving you up the ladder, so you're basically an expendable asset, right?
And they're like, okay, here, take this bag, put this mask on, you know, your contact will be here at, you know, 12pm and you'll do the drop and then just go, because that's just like a normal, that's statecraft or whatever it is, you know, spycraft stuff, right?
Yeah.
And then, and then next thing you know, the Altoona police show up and he's like, like, what's in your bag, kid?
And it's like the gun with the silencer and the 278 page manifesto.
And everybody says, you know, he was totally normal.
We didn't see this coming.
Well, no kidding.
Right?
Yeah, it makes perfect sense that he started to become, started working covertly for the government because that's why he dropped off.
Maybe his friends were horsing around too much with Let's say they smoked pot or whatever, and that could be bad for them if it got tied back to them because he's doing that kind of work.
Maybe that's why you stop talking to all of them and make sure they don't get in trouble for their normal activities that they do.
I don't know.
I think the back thing is real.
I think that he was recruited before the back problem got bad, and He has this back surgery, right?
Because when you're disabled like that or whatever, you have that disability, then you're not going to be moved up the ladder in the agency because you're not going to be a good field agent if you can't...
Do your duties, like, effectively, and you have back problems and you're in pain all the time.
So then he becomes this expendable asset, aka a useful patsy, right?
Oh, man.
And then they set him up, and then what's he going to do?
Say, no, no, no, no, no, I didn't do it.
I worked for the CIA. Or I work for Masada.
I mean, CIA, whatever.
Intelligence.
Even then, they could have lied to them.
You never really know, because even with the CIA, if you're working for the CIA, you never even know for sure 100% you are.
That's if you're working as an asset for them.
Right.
Because it could be anybody.
You don't even know your handler's real name, usually.
So this guy could say, it was my handler.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
So this guy gave me a backpack, and he gives me $10,000 in an envelope every month.
You know what I mean?
He told me to stand here with this backpack and wait for somebody to pick it up.
Yeah, who do we know that he knows from intelligence?
And that would be the same people involved with the DHS over there.
I think it was the DHS that set him up.
And the DHS, from the start to finish, set him up, acting like he was going to be an agent.
And like I said, if you work covertly, there's two different types.
You can be either a confirmed asset of the CIA or whatever, and then they can trade other spies to get you.
Or you're a ghost.
And I understand that world very well.
And so, uh, basically if you get caught, you're on your own, no matter what country you're in or anything, there's, they, there's nobody coming to save you.
It's called a non-official cover.
And this guy would have had a great non-official cover, at least in his mind too, because he has his own family company.
He doesn't have to do anything for, and he just basically has idle time.
Um, Yeah, he's a perfect patsy, and he got set up.
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Oh, we'll sneeze there.
We're back, and we're talking about Luigi Mangio.
I don't want to take too much more time because I feel like we've said almost everything can be said.
However, I will say this, Nick, and I'll let you finish your point.
Somebody pointed out a line I think is a very good point.
They couldn't identify this guy for three days because he had a mask on, right?
And the facial recognition, whatever, couldn't pick him up.
Then they pick up a guy who looks kind of like what we think he may have looked like, even though some of his facial features seem to be different, including his unibrow is totally different than the one of the actual killer.
Yet, and they did this all in a matter of what, three to four days, right?
From the point of the assassination to where we're at now or where they were when they got him.
But then...
At the same time, they want us to believe that in the last four years, they have not been able to successfully identify the assailant who planted the pipe bombs on January 6th at the RNC and the DNC because he was wearing a face mask and a hoodie in the exact same way that the killer in New York was.
Not to mention the fact that D.C., Arguably may have more security cameras than New York, given its high level of, you know, security priority.
So, just throwing that out there.
But Nick, continue with your point that you had before the break.
They're trying to say that this guy used magic mushrooms and that's why he ended up going to shoot people.
That's absolutely 100%.
That doesn't make sense at all.
I actually have done research on this in college because I had to do write papers about this.
I think we all did research on it in college.
You know what I'm talking about?
But for real, very seriously, it makes people more open-minded and less standoffish for at least one year on average.
So I highly doubt that.
Because he's more...
That would make him more social, if anything, and less antisocial.
So I don't believe that for one second.
Yeah, I don't know.
I just think that the whole thing reeks of cover-up to me.
And...
I don't know who's involved, but I do know that this story stinks like a fish market after the cooling units go down for a few days.
So there is a lot more to this story, but I'm sure we will never know because this is all going to be, for national security purposes, of course, kept under lock and key, and nobody will ever be able to get to the bottom of that.
Because that's how these things seem to work.
National security.
Yeah, national security.
National security.
Very sensitive.
Very sensitive.
Yes, it would be very detrimental to our government and the deep state bureaucracy if we ever found out the truth about it, I'm sure.
So some of the stories I want to cover here.
You pointed this out to me online.
I thought it was a very interesting story.
So the Biden administration has extended the emergency declaration for COVID-19, which in effect extends liability protections for the COVID vaccines through, get this, And I'm sure it's just like with Hunter Biden, where he just picks some random dates.
2029, more specifically December 31st, 2029, which, Nick, I don't know if you're good at math, but by my calculation, that would make it so that Donald Trump's administration that would make it so that Donald Trump's administration will never be able to prosecute anybody who's involved in manufacturing the vaccines with emergency use authorization.
That is.
I'm glad you bring this up, Craig, because those people believe they're safe and they're totally not.
Because the only way that it's legal, the key word legal, legally authorized, is if there are no other alternatives.
It's in the language.
No other alternatives.
We have ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, probably fembindazole.
All these different options, President Trump made it clear that those were options, and then they all lied and said it wasn't.
So all of those people that lied to say it was authorized in the first place are going to go down, and then the people that reauthorized it are going to go down, too.
Because you know that Comirnaty or whatever has never even been manufactured yet, so instead of having...
Or whatever they wanted to call it.
The production would have even started until this year, but they ended up not even seeing the production last year.
And so even then, none of them will be technically legal vaccines or legally produced vaccines where they get mandated anyway, because even for any reason, and they can't anyway, but because of that.
So this whole thing is just going to crumble as soon as Trump takes office.
I wouldn't worry about that too much.
Yeah, I mean, and honestly, it's a desperate attempt, I think, in lieu of the pardons, because that idea was being floated.
And so, you know how this stuff works, right?
They float it to the press to see if the public will, you know, if it passes the smell test with the public and they don't call BS. And the public called BS, thankfully, in saying, you know, What the hell is wrong with you?
You're going to preemptively pardon people?
Well, that's logically an inference that those people are guilty of crimes, right?
You don't just pardon people because you think, you know, I'm just going to throw out pardons to anyone.
You're innocent, right?
Here's a pardon.
No, you give pardons to people who are guilty, i.e.
the Hunter Biden pardon.
So in this scenario, of course, doing this is, I think, in lieu of the pardon because the pardon didn't fly with the public.
So this is their sort of backdoor way of trying to, you know, indemnify those who are involved with this.
So that's the way I read this.
What do you think?
That's a very good assessment, Craig.
I think you're right on the money, and they're not going to give them blanket pardons is what it looks like to me.
I think you're right about that.
This is going to offer them maybe two weeks of protection before the people are fired that would protect them, and then they would just take care of the problem.
Unless we go to World War III or, you know, Luigi Mangione gets acquitted and then takes up a job at the Trump White House or something.
And I mean that facetiously, obviously.
Sarcastically, probably more appropriate there.
But, look, we got one more segment.
We're hitting a break.
I mean, we'll keep talking about some of these other stories I want to hit on.
And of course, second hour, hopefully we're going to be joined by Amy Robbins from Parler.
And we'll get some interesting information from her.
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I am your host, Craig James.
We've got a short segment here before our final break.
Ahead of the second hour.
And I guess I want to take a real quick minute and talk about one of these stories that, you know, is kind of flying under the radar.
Not a lot of people are talking about it, which is strange because this is a big story.
But if you guys will recall, there was a man who went by the name of Ryan Ruth.
He was the lone gunman, quote-unquote, Trump assassin or would-be assassin, who...
was in lying in wait at one of Trump's golf courses down there in Palm Beach, trying to assassinate the president.
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And then we did this deep dive into his background.
And he was doing strange things, like acting as a sort of a recruiter for mercenaries to go fight in Ukraine.
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A lot of people made some very logical conclusions that this meant he was most assuredly tied to some sort of intelligence agency, most likely the CIA or something in that realm, and that that was a strange coincidence, just like everything else seems to be these days, especially with regard to him deciding to just take it upon himself to go down to Mar-a-Lago and try to assassinate Trump.
We're getting more information from the government and these documents that are coming out.
The first story is this, that prosecutors have sought to indefinitely delay the trial of Ryan Ruth over what they claim is, quote-unquote, complex evidence.
Okay?
And the complex evidence that's being referred to here is the fact that At the same time that the government is claiming that Ryan Ruth is a homeless man who just decided to pick up a gun one day and go try to kill the president, they're also telling us that He was in possession of 18 cell phones with five different phone companies.
He had three computers, three tablet computers, five external storage drives, all of which totaled, get this, over 4,000 terabytes worth of digital information and footprints.
A lot of people are saying, 4,000 terabytes.
That's an absurd number.
4,000 terabytes, if you actually do the math, is approximately, for those of you who know things more closely in gigabytes, 4 million gigabytes worth of digital information.
This is an absurd number, given the amount of devices that they are And many people are saying that that number is not true.
It can't be true because it's too large.
However, the official court document and the government submission here directly says 4,000 terabytes of information, videos, images, text files, and audio files.
Nick, how many homeless people do you know who have 4,000 terabytes worth of digital information?
No, and I'm not sure I know any person that has 4,000 terabytes of information, Craig.
It's a lot.
One terabyte.
Shoot, I got a couple of terabyte things, right?
And I put everything I own, every bit of digital footprint I've had for 20 years is on that thing, and it's less than a terabyte.
Okay.
So this guy's got 4,000 terabytes.
Brian Roos is living many lives, it seems.
He's got a lot going on.
All right, we're hitting our break.
I think he really was a recruiter.
I think that's fairly obvious.
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Okay, so without further ado, Nick, if you don't mind, I want to bring on our guest today.
As I said before, we're going to be joined here by Amy Robbins, and I'll just reintroduce her, Executive Director of Media Relations and National Spokesperson for Parler.
Amy, are you there?
Hey Craig, how are ya?
I'm doing very well, Amy, and I'm really thankful to have you on the show today.
I think we can have a very interesting conversation about sort of Parler, the app itself.
But really quickly, Amy, you know, I gave your kind of title, but let's give you the floor for a second to kind of introduce yourself to our audience really quickly.
Yeah, absolutely.
So I am the new Director of Media Relations for Parler and their national spokesperson.
And it's been a really interesting, really, really interesting time with Parler because I don't know how many of your audience members remember the old Parler before Parler got completely colluded against and censored from major corporations including AWS, their cloud server, and Google and Apple.
And so it has been such an incredible journey.
I started with them this summer and I'm really excited to be here today just to tell you guys about what we're doing and the vision of where Parler is going because it is definitely not the Parler that you guys are used to.
Yeah, you know, I was a huge fan of Parler when it came out because I was one of the people who got censored off of Twitter, of course, in The Purge.
And so I went over to Parler and I immediately had like 15,000 followers within like a week or two.
And then, of course...
Amazon steps in, they take away their servers, and the whole site just goes down.
And eventually, it went down.
And it was just a nightmare, really, because I was such a fan of Parler.
I was rooting for them.
And then they just got completely, you know, wiped off the Internet, it felt like, by Amazon.
And there was some collusion, I think, going on there behind the scenes.
But tell us a little bit about that story, because I don't think a lot of people...
A, may even know about this story because this was a few years back, but they also may not understand the breadth, the full story.
Is there anything you can tell us that we don't already know?
Yeah, absolutely.
And you're exactly right.
So I was in that camp, too.
I remember I did the same thing.
I switched over to Parler, was so excited.
There was this really quick, accelerated growth that most people saw very quickly on Parler.
And that is because within a matter of days, they got around 18 million new users.
So it was the fastest growing app.
In the App Store, and the reason for that is because it was the very first free speech platform that was offering an alternative to the other big tech platforms.
So, if people don't remember this, the reason for the insane growth, not just because they were personally getting censored, but what opened everybody's eyes was that then-President Trump got kicked off of Twitter.
Which was absolutely unheard of.
You know, you have a sitting president who all of a sudden, a big tech platform decides that they're using, he's going against their community guidelines.
I think they quoted hate speech, misinformation, I mean, you name it.
We're all aware now of these kind of ambiguous community guidelines that at any point any of us could be in violation of.
And, you know, he got kicked off of their platform.
And that was very eye-opening to a lot of people like you and like me because we said, look, if this can happen to a sitting president, the most powerful person in the entire world, well, what's to keep them from doing the same thing for somebody like me who's a nobody?
And it was happening.
It was happening every day.
So luckily, Parler had actually already been around for a couple of years, but they did not take off until that moment.
And it was at that moment that people realized we need a place that we can feel free to not only seek out On political issues that, you know, are different than what the big tech platforms are typically allowing.
But people were seeing during the medical freedom movement during COVID that their voices were being censored and suppressed if they spoke out against the vaccine mandate, if they offered alternative medical treatment to COVID. And so, people even beyond just the conservative political environment were actually starting to experience this censorship, too.
And so, when you had Parler come out and say, well, please come over here.
This is going to be a safe place for you to come and share your information.
We're not going to be the arbiters of truth.
We're not going to shut you down.
We're going to let this platform be a true free speech platform.
That resonated with millions and millions of people.
And if you think back to what was going on during that time, the big tech platform had so much power that people weren't even really fully aware of.
And, you know, so when they moved over to Parler, it was a matter of, and I don't remember the exact time, I wasn't involved with the 1.0 version of the company, but I remember that it was within a matter of days.
I got on the platform, I tried to reopen it, and I just remember it just never reopened, and I never knew what was going on.
And so probably like a lot of people, they didn't realize that they were hosting all of their services in AWS Cloud.
And then, of course, in order to have an app, you have to be in the Apple or Google store.
And so, yeah, overnight, AWS pulled the plug on their cloud server so the services were no longer running.
And then Google and Apple just took them out of the app store so that nobody else could redownload the app.
And it basically died overnight.
So can you tell us a little bit?
We're hitting a break here in about 40 seconds.
Maybe start a little bit telling us about what they've done to protect themselves from this happening in the future.
And we'll start there because we only have 30 seconds.
So just hit on that real quick and then we'll take a quick break and bring you right back.
Absolutely.
Great question, and we can really dive into it, but the new owners knew that if you were not autonomous and you did not own your private cloud, you were always going to be beholden to a third party that could potentially shut you down.
So the new owners were a technology company first, And are providing some really great, innovative technologies that are going to allow Parler to not be worried about getting shut down again if any of your audience members get back on and re-engage in the platform.
And we can definitely jump into that in a second.
Let's get into that, and then we'll let Nick ask some questions.
I'm also interested to hear about who the new owners are.
That would be very interesting.
So, listen, everybody stay tuned.
Just hold on.
We're coming right back.
Quick commercial break.
But Amy Robbins from Parlors here.
We're going to bring her right back on the other side of the break.
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I'm your host, Craig James, with Nick Ngo and our guest, Amy Robbins.
She is the Executive Director of Media Relations and the national spokesperson for the social media app Parler.
That's spelled P-A-R-L-E-R, in case you're wondering.
And she's telling us this incredible story.
She's told us about sort of the history of Parler, which is a fascinating history with regard to censorship and how they were targeted and what happened to them.
But now she's telling us a little bit about what the future is looking like for Parler, going into everything from, you You know, sort of securities they're building into their systems to make sure that this sort of censorship like they saw with the Amazon Web Services, you know, censoring and everything else can happen in the future.
She was going to tell us a little bit about the new owners as well.
So, Amy, take it away and then we'll kick it over to Nick because I'm sure he has some interesting things to contribute or ask.
Yeah, absolutely.
So the new owners, we are a privately owned company, and the new owners are just a group of patriotic, freedom-loving people that believe that this freedom, not just our freedom of speech, but really freedom in general is not just an American thing, but people around the globe.
Are, you know, really rooting for organizations and companies like Parler to succeed because people around the world are also experiencing censorship and they're wanting outlets and ways to express their I guess like their dissent with what's going on politically in their own countries.
And so what the new owners understood, they were actually a technology company before.
They owned a private cloud, which a lot of people don't understand why that is so important.
So, I mean, everybody, if you have a digital company, you are hosting your services somewhere.
Most people do not own their own private cloud.
Even, I think Facebook might be the only one from a Like tech platform standpoint that do outside of Parler, but everybody else is typically hosted on some of the bigger platforms, AWS being one of those.
And that is what the original Parler was hosted on.
So when our new owners came in and they already had this technology, they said, look, We're going to rewrite the code.
And I will back up really fast.
We bought the company in December of last year.
So the Parler 3.0 version has only been around a little under a year.
And we have made some great headway during that year.
So we basically had to rebuild the entire social media app.
From scratch, hosted in our cloud, but with a big focus on decentralization.
So we had some really great ideas of what we wanted to do with Parler, not just from a social media app, but we wanted to actually build an entire ecosystem that was centered around this idea of privacy, security, safety, financial freedom, autonomy, just all of these Wonderful things that we knew in order to do that, we had to be more than a social media platform.
So the plan from the very beginning was not just to revive a dead social media platform.
It was to do that and then to build alternative ecosystems to everything that big tech has to offer right now.
So while platforms like YouTube have been kind of reigning supreme for decades now, we are still seeing content creators going on there and having their voices suppressed.
We see demonetization happening to You know, content creators in certain sectors all the time.
We're seeing deplatforming happening, and so we really have not had just a wonderful alternative to that platform, and so we built it.
We just launched Play TV a couple of months ago that is going to provide this idea of freedom for content creators.
So we just launched that.
We launched some really incredible features within that that are going to rival TikTok and Instagram Reels, and that's our burst feature.
So now content creators who have worried about what's happening with big tech and censorship can actually come over to our platform and know that they're safe there.
Know that they have a home and a place where their voice is not going to be censored or suppressed, and they're going to have the ability to get their message out to people.
And so, yeah, so that's just, those are just a few things that we have been doing over the last year.
Wow, that's really incredible.
And owners are...
Working diligently to try to make a platform where you can speak freely.
I mean, I myself am still a digital refugee.
I still am banned on Facebook, still am banned on YouTube, still am banned on my original account, at least is still banned on Twitter.
So I've never had any redemption as far as these people are concerned for my thought crimes, which were, you know, basically saying Hunter Biden's laptop is real, you know, and COVID might not be what you think it is.
So that was a crime, a thought crime that couldn't stand.
And apparently that is something that's irredeemable in their eyes.
But, you know, let me go over to Nick because I know Nick's been wanting to chime in.
Nick, you know, what do you have for Amy while we have her here?
I want to say great job getting Parler with all of their own servers and hosting because that's a very difficult and very expensive thing to do.
I know you guys already had some infrastructure built.
That was great.
I want the listeners to understand, though, that when you go to host your website, there are basically AWS that they're referring to that's owned by Amazon.
There's also something called Microsoft SQL. They're very similar and basically they host the data to pull from an API or something that pulls from the data to populate the page.
So basically AWS, part of Amazon, who has government contracts.
This is something I want everybody to understand.
What they did to Parler was a crime.
And what they've done to us is a crime.
And not only that, I feel that Parler should be compensated.
If any company takes a dime from the U.S. government, they are beholden to the U.S. laws, the Bill of Rights and Constitution, period.
There's no getting around it if you take one penny.
And if you take one tax break, if you take whatever loophole they want to have, you are on the hook.
And so what they did was a workaround.
And even then, what they did was probably illegal.
And I'm sure that if they sued for discovery, Eventually, they'd have a good chance at getting the government back and maybe even getting some losses that the company has sustained from then.
And I want to remind everybody, too, that we got purged off of Twitter and we still don't have our accounts back.
I had 55,000 followers, 55,000.
That might not seem a lot.
They froze me at 55,000.
Dude, I had 100,000.
I had 300,000 on YouTube.
But look, I don't want to get into all that.
I get what you're saying, Nick.
Like, what's happened to Parler is an injustice.
I saw it as an injustice when it happened.
I spoke out loudly against it.
But it seems as though the old ownership has...
You know, basically signed off and now we have new owners in who really do want to relaunch this.
So that's what I think we should be focusing on is the relaunch of it because I'm excited.
I went over there recently and sort of looked at my account because, you know, honestly...
Before we got in contact a little while ago, Amy, I hadn't really looked at Parler because every time I had gone to the Parler website, it just said, you know, host not up or something.
It had some generic message and you couldn't even get to the website to see the platform.
And now the platform's back up and I'm, you know, sort of trying to re-engage with my audience over there.
But it seems like, you know, there is sort of an uphill battle you're facing.
And tell us about what that looks like, you know, as you navigate that minefield.
No doubt that it is an uphill battle because a lot of people, A, don't even know that we're back.
We've done a really under-the-radar relaunch, and, you know, for good reason.
We really wanted to make sure that we were rolling everything out in the most robust way possible.
And when you're rebuilding everything from scratch, you know, you get one shot these days with people in the social media world.
And a lot of people could be unforgiving saying, you know, well, this company is not a trillion dollar company like Facebook is and we want all the features that a trillion dollar company has.
Well, we'll get there.
We will eventually get there.
What we have been setting our focus on on the back end and with the privacy and security, those are things that right off the bat, people might not see as super valuable.
And I do want to point out something really fast that's been happening on Meta, on these other platforms, that people may not even be aware of.
And then I want to talk about how we are not doing that on our platform.
So when you go on Meta, let's say sign up for a Facebook account, and you have to read the 25 pages worth of their terms and conditions, right?
Nobody reads that.
So you don't actually know what they're doing with all of your data.
Well, I'll tell you.
They are out there following and tracking your every single move, and then they are taking all of that data and they're selling it to advertisers.
So Facebook makes around, I think the last stat I read was around $900 a day on your personal data.
Now, I don't know about you, but I have never gotten a check.
I've never even gotten a thank you note.
Thank you so much for letting us make so much money off of you.
But they know more about us.
They encroach on our privacy so much and then they make money on it to the point that people don't...
I think now we're just kind of numb to it.
Now we just kind of hand over our data to anybody in order to use platforms.
And at the end of the day, Like, that is a really scary thing that we've been conditioned to do, and that is not happening on Parler.
So, one of the things that we are flipping on its head, we're doing a complete paradigm shift, we just integrated with the Optio blockchain.
So, we integrated the Parler social media app, we integrated Play TV, we created a digital wallet called Parler Pay, and what we are now doing is that we are no longer going to make the users the product.
Of our social media platforms.
We are now, just from interacting, are giving back to all of our users through our digital reward program using the Optio digital reward system that will go straight into your ParlerPay wallet.
So if you have, like you guys said that y'all had old accounts on Parler, we can actually reinstate those accounts for you and you will have all of your old followers back.
So that's one way that we're going to help you guys re-engage with your audience.
Yes, we will be doing big re-engagement campaigns to get all of those users back on the platform, but you have access to all of your old followers, which I think is really pretty cool.
So all you would have to do to start engaging in this digital reward program is go and secure that ParlerPay wallet Which is right there on your homepage whenever you log into your Parler account.
And you will earn digital rewards not just for liking, following, commenting, reposting.
You'll also get it for engaging on Play TV. So it's a really interesting shift that we want to do, and the whole, like, reasoning behind what we're doing there is because we think that there is a future where social media can actually be used for good,
that it no longer has to be a divisive, negative place that is creating all of these negative effects on society, but we actually think that we can reward and incentivize people for good behavior on social media platforms that actually leads to a new Reward system that people can actually benefit from.
So those are other very exciting things that I didn't even touch on earlier.
But this all just happened in the last couple of weeks by integrating and becoming Oracle apps on the Optio blockchain.
So if you are familiar with blockchain technology or you've just heard about it and you want to learn more about it, you can come on over to Parler and either reinstate your old account.
And if you don't know what email you use, You can actually reach out to our support team at support at parlor.com and there are real life human beings that will answer your questions, which you just don't get that personal touch on any of these other big tech platforms.
Yeah, I encourage everybody to go check out Parler.
It was a great app when I used it originally.
And I have reinstated my account and I have been using it a little bit.
And yeah, I did get all my followers back.
But I think we're still waiting for a lot of people to come back.
That's the thing that I noticed when I was there.
But it is a great functional app.
Yeah.
I'll tell you this.
The cool thing about that is that it doesn't matter if you have one follower or a million followers.
The digital reward system that we now have in place for interacting with Parler is not based on your amount of followers, which I think is really cool.
So I encourage people to go and secure that Parler Pay wallet, start accumulating those digital rewards because we're building an entire ecosystem that will be able to utilize those rewards within our ecosystem.
We just rolled out the Parler Marketplace.
And you'll actually, after phase one, we'll be able to use some of those points that you have accumulated to actually purchase things and use towards our Parler ecosystem.
So I think that is something that's really neat too.
We're all so conditioned to thinking that we have to grow our accounts and get this insane amount of followers in order to benefit.
From the platform.
And that's just not the case with Parler.
Anyone can benefit from Parler as long as you see that wallet and you start interacting and engaging on the platform.
All right.
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We're joined by Nick Ngo and our guest, Amy Robbins.
So, Amy, sort of, let me go over here real quick to Nick.
Nick, what else do you have for Amy today?
Because I know you may have some interesting thoughts or questions that you want to contribute here quick.
Well, again, I appreciate everything that you guys are doing, Amy, and having your own hosting and everything like that.
It makes it so you cannot be taken down for transient causes, trans causes, or whatever kind of causes there are.
You never know.
We'd like to help you get back up to Parler, where you guys were headed.
You're back on track.
So how can we help you do that?
Yeah, just helping us get the word out that we're back.
That's one of the most shocking things I think I find when I talk to people, tell them what I'm doing now, and I say, look, I'm helping this company.
They're like, wait a second, Parler's back?
We had no idea.
The Parler is back message is one of the biggest things that we are just trying to get out there right now.
Number one, letting people know that if you did have an account on Parler, you can reinstate that account or you can create a completely new one.
But just letting people know that we're back, the differentiators that we have now that set us apart from the other free speech platforms.
Because the truth is, Parler was a pioneer in free speech platforms.
We were the first one over the hill.
That's why we took all of the hits.
We paved the way for companies like Gitter and Rumble and Truth and ultimately, Elon buying X. And so, because we did that and we took all of those hits, we are just trying to get that message back out to everybody and let them know that they do have a safe place.
You know, what was really interesting is that we really started discovering, as we talk to influencers and tell them, and we're talking to influencers in every space, every sector.
We're talking to people that have experienced the censorship and, you know, political commentary.
Like, more than likely, it's usually been libertarian or conservative Political commentators that were experiencing the censorship.
But then we started seeing people in the medical space that were getting censored.
People in the Second Amendment community getting censored.
They've been censored for a very long time.
And everybody wants the same thing.
They just want to have the ability to put their information out, their thoughts, their opinions, and then have discussions, have debates, let the free flow of information take place.
And so we're just letting people know that they do have a safe place in Parler.
Even if we were to get kicked out of the Google or Apple store again, we have a completely robust functioning web version as well.
And so that's something that's really exciting because we truly are uncancellable at that point.
And so if you take the time to go back on the platform, you don't have to worry about it shutting down again.
And I think that's something that can give peace of mind to people that are looking for an alternative platform to start getting involved with and start being a part of a new community.
Yeah, I think that's incredible.
So again, for our audience out there, P-A-R-L-E-R Parlor is the name of the company.
It's the app, the social media app and website.
And I want to ask you real quick, kind of my final question for the day, I guess.
You know, we see a lot of these big tech companies, social media companies, you know, they put guardrails on speech and they tell us it's for our own good.
What is Parler's philosophy on content moderation when it comes to free speech?
Yeah, that's a really great question.
So we do believe that free speech is a fundamental right to everybody.
So as far as moderating goes, we don't allow illegal activity.
We do have very clear guidelines that are written up within our ecosystem.
And that's, I think, another thing that is really important is that you have transparency.
When it comes to the community guidelines, just being transparent on what that means.
We are, I will mention this, we are a porn-free platform.
So, while, you know, there are some other platforms that do allow that to run rampant, at the core of who we are, we want to keep children safe, and we know that porn is a gateway to child trafficking, so we've just put our foot down.
And we make that very clear before we even sign up for our account that we just do not allow that on our platform.
Outside of that, as long as it's not illegal defined by our actual laws, we are not out there trying to suppress opposing views, to suppress information.
We're not even putting misinformation or disinformation warnings on anybody's posts.
We think that people should have the ability to Decipher for themselves what is true, what is not true, to read whatever they want to read and then make the decision for themselves what they want to do with that information.
So we are not the arbiters of truth.
We're not going to be.
And we don't think that that's our place as a social media company to do that.
We just simply want to provide the platform, the forum, and the freedom for people to go and have the discussions and debates that they want to have and to get out of social media whatever they want to get out of it.
So, quick follow-up.
So far, for your company, Parler, have you had any pressure from the U.S. government or any outside foreign governments to censor or take down information?
No, we have not.
And, you know, it was really interesting.
I don't think we're going to see a lot of that with this new administration, hopefully.
It was very eye-opening that Mark Zuckerberg came out and even admitted what we have all suspected for a very long time, and that is that the government has been using these backdoor coercion tactics with big tech platforms to censorize.
So I apologize for interrupting, but you don't have a liaison at the FBI writing you emails telling you what you should be censoring?
No.
No, we do not.
We do not have that.
Yeah, no.
Great question, though.
And honestly, I think probably a lot of people don't realize that that is happening at these other platforms.
I think that Elon is taking a really big stand against that, but we have definitely seen it with Mark Zuckerberg himself admitted that that was going on with Facebook.
And, you know, it got really out of control there for a while.
It's going to be super interesting to see Any changes actually happen on Facebook moving forward with the new administration.
And so, yeah, but as far as Parler is concerned right now, no, you don't have to worry about that.
Okay, Amy.
It was a pleasure having you on.
Nick, anything else before we let her go?
Thank you so much for coming on and letting us know that there's another free speech platform that's not going to deplatform us.
We really appreciate it because we don't know where to go anymore.
Well, I really want you to come over.
We would love your show, love your content.
While you're downloading Parler out of the app store, or you can go to the website parlor.com and download it, go ahead and download Play TV as well.
We would love for you guys to get a channel and start getting your content out there on Play TV as well.
We know it would resonate with our audience.
And we would love to see you guys really thrive in this ecosystem that we're building.
So if there's anything we can do as well to help you or help anyone in your audience, please don't hesitate to reach out to us at support at parlor.com.
And we will be happy to get you guys all set up.
Alright, I think we might be in touch about that, but thank you, Amy.
Amy Robbins, ladies and gentlemen, the Executive Director of Media Relations and National Spokesperson for Parler.
Parler, spelled P-A-R-L-E-R. It's an app you can download from whatever Play Store service is your smartphone or device, or you can go to their website.
It's parler.com, correct?
That is correct.
Absolutely.
I think you nailed all of it.
So thank you guys so much for your time and for having me on and for helping us spread the word that we're back.
All right.
Thank you, Amy.
It was a pleasure.
All right.
Well, there you go, folks.
That was Amy Robbins from Parler.
What did you think about that, Nick?
That was fun.
She's a lot of fun to have on.
Yeah, I thought it was a good interview.
I think we got a lot covered there.
I was a huge fan of Parler.
I was sad when it got...
I was mad, actually, when it got taken down.
But the fact that they're coming back is cool.
And I looked up online while we were having that interview who the new ownership is.
And it sounds like some pretty interesting people.
You got a former professional boxer, British, named Ryan Rhodes.
You have Jocko Boyens.
Who, of course, we all know has been a vocal advocate in the abolition of sex trafficking globally.
So, some interesting characters running the show over there.
And we should be very excited about anybody who's trying to fight for free speech.
So, make sure you guys go check that out.
And we're thankful to have her on.
We have one more segment when we come back.
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That was an interesting interview.
I'm very excited to see what the future holds for Parler and that social media app because I have a feeling they're going to be a big competitor in the space in no time.
That's just my intuition off the bat.
What do you think, Nick?
I think so, too.
See Parler succeed, especially considering what they've built, and I want to see if we can help them out, get that moving for them.
Yeah, I think we'll see what we can do there.
Now, the final topic of today I want to talk about quickly is Syria.
I want to play this clip.
Mike Benz over on The War Room with Natalie Winters on Syria and ISIS. Listen to this.
Mike, I want to pivot, since we only got you for a few more minutes, to what is going on in Syria, because you always sort of have the real, actual, non-USAID spin of what's going on there.
I sent the studio a tweet that I hope we have, but if not, I don't know if the studio's going to be able to pull it up, so you can sort of just give us your thoughts on what's going on there.
It's one for the history books.
So basically ISIS is now fully in control of Syria, completing the wish list items of the Obama administration.
This is basically the first W that the Biden administration has gotten in four years of foreign policy disasters.
It was essentially L after L after L. And then finally, the last month that Biden's in office, he gets one victory on the world stage, and that is installing ISIS as the head of Syria.
So basically, we have been pumping up these al-Qaeda groups and these al-Qaeda spinoff groups as a way to topple Bashar al-Assad in Syria.
There's been this lightning blitzkrieg over the past week, where to many people this has come as a sort of bolt out of nowhere, because Syria had, backstopped by Russia and Iran, had rebuffed the largest CIA operation in declassified history, something called Operation Timber Sycamore, which was excluding Ukraine, in my opinion.
But it is formally the most expansive CIA regime change operation ever undertaken in U.S. history.
And it failed spectacularly, actually, several years ago.
There's been an effective stalemate, but suddenly ISIS made a huge resurgence and just conquered the entire country.
Now, they've done so through this sort of ISIS rebrand called the HTS.
And what I was asking your producers to put on screen is something that I think will live in Twitter history, in X history.
It should be framed, frankly, in the Louvre or some museum.
This is a tweet from the U.S. Embassy in Syria.
So this is the State Department in Syria.
In May 2017, And it says, we remain committed to bringing leading al-Qaeda figures in HTS to justice.
There's a big image saying, stop this terrorist.
Muhammad al-Jalani, up to a $10 million reward that the State Department was offering for this man's head.
The State Department is now backing this man to rule Syria.
He is the rebel leader of HTS. He is the military leader who is going to play a very senior role now in Syria's new government.
And just seven years ago, under Trump, There was a $10 million bounty on his head because of his role as an ISIS terrorist.
Now, this tweet is still live.
This is why I wanted to make sure we got this live on this segment, because I'm fairly confident that the U.S. Embassy is going to take this tweet down because of what a humiliation it is for exposing the U.S. use of ISIS fighters as a cynical cannon fodder faction in order to topple In order to topple foreign governments.
But the other thing that I find very strange here is the timing of this.
Trump campaigned on ending ISIS in 2016 and has declared along the campaign trail that he will essentially do a counter-jihad on jihadi forces.
Well, we've got a lot of those in reserve because they're backed, funded, diplomatically supported, and militarily armed and trained by the United States of America, our CIA. Our U.S. aid camps and our diplomatic back channels.
And so I suspect that they fear Trump will wipe out ISIS. And so they've essentially done this last minute Hail Mary to use all these assets before Trump is handed the reins and sees them for what they are and shuts them down.
But it's too late now because they are now the government of Syria now.
I mean, Nick, is that not insane?
Well, that's the typical CIA, and that's also why I was concerned about how the DOD and the CIA were fighting each other.
They had two separate opposing factions, even now, as this is all taking place.
It's not surprising because, look, you got...
The Antifa training in northern Syria and being allowed to leave the country, not apprehended or anything.
So that guy that just did the assassination is loosely tied to the CIA, it looks like.
And I just think that it could have been possible that that guy was tied to that CIA group that was in northern Syria, which also may be another reason why you'd want things to move quickly before blowback could happen.
But, you know, they're right.
I mean, that's enough motivation in and of itself is just to use all the assets they can before President Trump comes back in.
But it looks like...
I mean, like, if ISIS is a modality of an existential threat that's necessary to continue to have a presence in the Middle East, and Trump doesn't want us in the Middle East because he's trying to stop the never-ending wars and create peace in the Middle East,
And they know he's going to come in and try to wipe out what's left of ISIS. And their last move is, okay, so let's take ISIS and make them the government of Syria so that if Trump does want to take out ISIS, he has to, you know, basically betray his base and get into foreign intervention, you know, foreign interventionism, which he said and campaigned on not doing.
Like, that is wild, right?
Yeah.
Yeah, that's how far they went.
What they don't understand, though, is that President Trump can always say, well, we don't recognize him as the government, so we're sending missiles.
I know, and this would explain why Trump came out in a tweet and said, you know, we shouldn't be involved in this at all, because, you know, as bad as Bashar was in Russia and all that...
It's not our business, right?
And now we've made it our business and taken what Mike Benz points out is a high-ranking leader of ISIS who we had a $10 million bounty on four years ago or six years ago, and now we're not only allowing him but backing him and supporting him to become the head of Syria.
I mean, you couldn't make this stuff up.
It's that crazy and absurd.
But they get away with it because people are, you know, politically illiterate when it comes to foreign diplomacy.
The majority of people in this country, I hate to say it, couldn't find Syria on a map if you handed them a $100 bill and gave them 20 minutes.
So, I mean, it's just absolutely insane where we've come to today.
So, Anyway, we have more to come.
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Welcome back to Just Forum Talk Radio.
I'm your host, Craig James, and this is our final segment.
I can't believe we have made it here already.
Time surely does fly.
But I want to make it clear that we're very thankful for our guest, Amy Roms.
That was really awesome.
I was thankful for that.
And go check out Parler.
But final conclusion from our good friend, special guest host, Nick Ngo.
What do you got?
Well, Craig, well, all I got is that, you know, I want everybody to know that the good guys are winning and do be prepared for anything.
But I'm going shopping today for a couple more Christmas gifts.
It's really exciting.
But I want to wish everyone a happy holidays and Merry Christmas early.
And I want to let everybody know that God wins in the end and it's coming soon.
Yeah, so hopefully we'll have you on the end of this week if you're able, and then we'll have you on the end of next week.
But then, programming note, we are off for the show the whole week of Christmas, so we will not be here.
And then we'll probably be off on New Year's Day, depending on what day that falls on.
I'm almost certain that that will be a day where we are...
We're off, but actually, you know what?
New Year's falls on...
Does it fall on the weekend?
I don't know.
It doesn't matter.
Anyway, you know, it's our final segment, God's Grace is Greater.
We always go to Scripture, and, you know, we talked a little bit about, you know, what's happening in the world.
A lot of people are suffering right now, so I always go back to 1 Peter and look at chapter 4 and talk about what it means to suffer as Christians.
It says, Dear Friends, this is chapter 4, verse 12. Dear friends, don't be surprised when the fiery ordeal comes among you to test you as if something unusual were happening to you.
Instead, rejoice as you share in the sufferings of the Messiah so that you may also rejoice with great joy at the revelation of His glory.
If you are ridiculed for the name of Christ, you are blessed, because the Spirit of glory and of God rests on you.
None of you, however, should suffer as a murderer, a thief, an evildoer, or a meddler.
But if anyone suffers as a Christian, he should not be ashamed, but should glorify God in having that name.
For the time has come for judgment to begin with God's household, and if it begins with us, what will the outcome be for those who disobey the gospel of God?
And if a righteous person is saved with great difficulty, what will become of the ungodly and the sinner?
So those who suffer according to God's will should, while doing what is good, entrust themselves to a faithful creator.
And that's my message for all of you out there today.
Remember, if we are suffering because we are doing what's right, because we are standing for Christ, because we are living the gospel in our lives...
We should rejoice and give thanks to God because that means we're on the right path.
And as it says in there, we should not suffer as murderers, thieves, evildoers, or meddlers.
Meaning, if we're suffering because of those things, we're not on the right path.
But if we're suffering because we are living with righteousness and integrity as best we can according to the will in the gospel, The will of God and the gospel that we've been given through scripture, then we should rejoice and give thanks to God.
So let us give thanks to God that we have that opportunity.
And that's where we're going to leave it.
I want to thank you all again.
Thanks to our guests.
Thanks to everybody out there listening.
Thanks to Nick.
We really appreciate all you guys.
We'll be back tomorrow, God willing, same time, same place.
Until then, I'm your host, Craig James.
Our special guest co-host Nick Ngo signing off.
We'll see you tomorrow.
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