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I'm your host, Craig James.
And I, again, as always, hope you're having a wonderful day.
It is Wednesday, October 9th, 2024.
And we are that much closer to the election, less than one month away.
And boy, things are looking really strange all over the place.
From what people are alleging to be weather modification patterns that are seemingly...
Geoengineering and steering storms to places that is now reportedly affecting changes to the way elections are going to be run in 2020 to some other interesting weather patterns and we have a lot of other stories to cover here today.
So today is Wednesday and most of you, uh, usually are used to our friend
and special guest cohost, Nick, no joining us on Thursdays and Fridays,
but it's going to be a bit of a different show today.
We're actually going to be joined by, uh, our good friend and
special guest cohost, Nick.
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And we're also going to be joined by a very special guest in the second
hour, uh, an individual by the name of Matt Cubbler.
We'll tell you more about him.
Later when he joins us, but what we're going to be talking about mainly in today's
show is a book that is going to be released this Friday that Nick had a big part in
helping to create, and he's going to tell us about it.
It tells the story of, um, an incredible story really of, of deceit, lies,
treachery, and everything in between murder, you name it.
And it's the story of Osama bin Laden, SEAL Team 6, and everything that's happened from Libya to Iran and Pakistan and what the official story is versus what the truth is.
In regard to everything that's happened with those events.
We'll get into that in a second.
But before we do that, first I guess I'll just welcome our good friend Nick.
Did I do a good job on that, Nick?
Yes. Yes, Craig, thank you very much.
It's gonna be dynamite, I'm telling you.
This stuff in this is gonna have people's jaws on the floor.
Once you get through the introduction, it explains who Alan is and how we got here before we reveal everything.
But I'm telling you, it's going to make some changes.
There are going to be some people that are Alright, well, just, you know, for your information, your microphone's cutting out, so I'm sure that's a complete coincidence.
It has nothing to do with what we're going to talk about here today.
Nothing can stop what is coming.
Yeah. No, it's like every time we have stories like this, it's, you know, just...
Coincidental technical difficulties.
But that's neither here nor there.
One other thing I want to make an announcement of here earlier.
I'll make more announcements of it in today's show later and tomorrow's show.
We'll talk about it more specifically.
But, Nick, me, you, and Jay Deplorable from Swamp Fight will be putting on a special show on Friday live from Aurora, Colorado.
At the rally that's going to be held by President Donald J. Trump, yes, folks, we will be there in attendance, and it's going to be huge.
It's going to be huge. And it's funny, Nick, how...
Huge. Isn't it strange or funny how Trump chooses the day that your book's being published to come here to Colorado?
I mean, I'm not the kind of person that thinks in those kind of terms, but it's funny that...
He's coming to Colorado and we're going to be there on the same day that your book is being published, is exposing all of this, right?
That's divine providence.
Amen. And you know, yeah, it's serendipitous, if nothing else.
But interestingly enough, wasn't it interesting how, you know, we talked about this briefly the other day, last
Friday, but when this story originally came to light, it was Donald Trump who, through a tweet, brought it to
national prominence, right?
That's right. So, Alan and I and Mr. Trump...
Charles Woods, father of Ty Woods, who was killed on the rooftop in Benghazi, we all made a presentation together and it all started with me and some other whistleblowers bringing our stories together from different commands, you know, so that way we had a full picture of what really happened, at least within the military.
And once we got through that, then I was introduced to Alan Perot who brought the intelligence aspect, you know, pure intelligence aspect.
That was kept from everybody that unlocked the entire mystery of what was happening and why.
The whys. Why did they do it?
Why did they allow it? Why did they want everybody to die in Benghazi?
That was my biggest issue.
I could never figure out why did they want them to die?
Why? Was it just because they're evil?
No, there has to be a motive.
There had to have been. And we found out what it was.
Yeah, and we're going to get into that today.
And for anybody out there who's wondering who you are and what this is all about, if you're new to the show and you're just tuning in or if you've listened and you've never caught this part, Nick is known as the Benghazi whistleblower.
He's the one who came forward with information from one of the combined central commands that was overseeing operations in Benghazi on that day that the embassy was overrun and that all those people were killed, and there was a bigger story there that you exposed about gun smuggling and this operation to arm the quote-unquote moderate Syrian rebels against the Russian fighters in Syria, and that those weapons ended up falling coincidentally,
mysteriously, accidentally, And some people say possibly intentionally into the hands of ISIS and other fighters and all the way up into Afghanistan even, where that's where Matt Kubler is going to come in later in the show.
He's going to talk about Extortion 17.
He's going to talk about the official story about What Rob O'Neill says happened versus what may have actually happened.
He's going to talk about how there may have been stingers used to shoot down that helicopter.
You've talked about this.
I mean, am I getting too ahead of everything?
Yeah, may I interject?
So Matt started out, I'll let him tell the rest of it, but he started out because one of his friends asked for some help on an issue.
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Welcome back to Just Form Talk Radio.
I'm your host, Craig James.
And we have a lot to cover here today.
And it's so unfortunate because, gosh, there's so many news stories to cover.
I mean, we have a massive wildfire up in Wyoming right now.
Tens of thousands of acres on fire, which is why we're covered in blanketed and smoke down here in Colorado as we speak.
You have this, like I said before, this massive hurricane that is rolling in that is going to devastate Tampa Bay, which, you know, no big deal.
I think there was literally...
The hurricane's named Milton.
And there was a movie made back in 2009 called Category 6.
And it was all about a hurricane named Milton slamming into Florida.
But that's, you know, complete coincidence again.
And... There's all types of information about Weather Wars and Project Sirius and things we could get in there.
There's the ditty tapes.
I mean, gosh, Nick, the stuff I'm hearing about these ditty tapes is horrific.
I'm hearing that there's underage kids.
The tapes are being shopped around Hollywood right now because they do exist and they're out.
And they show everyone from Justin Bieber to Ashton Kutcher to you name the big celebrity name.
And they are doing... Heyness things on these tapes and Then on top of that You have Tina Peters here in Colorado just getting sentenced to nine years in prison, and she's released all of the data that basically shows how they wiped the systems and they gave...
That's federal crime.
They're supposed to keep the evidence for, I think it was 18 months, and they wiped it right after she did what's called an imaging of it.
It's an exact copy of it.
So basically, imagine your computer, and that's what she did.
And she's the one going to jail for nine years, by the way.
Yeah, and they showed the fraud.
The fraud was in the error logs, Craig.
The fraud was right there, and then they erased it, which is a federal crime.
And then she was the one attacked.
How is this even possible?
Thank God for Tina Peters, because if she had not done that, then she would not have shown the problem.
The error logs is where they do it.
They change everything, but the error logs keep track of everything.
And if they can get rid of the evidence after the elections, that's like they did.
That's how they get rid of it, because they use Hammer and Scorecard to hack, and then use the hardware and then the software, and real-time monitoring.
It sounds an alarm. It tells you exactly how many ballots to send where.
And that's what they tried to use in 2016, using President Obama's VPN. They are so stupid that they thought they could use his VPN. They're so stupid.
Listen, it gets worse, Nick.
It gets worse. Because God knows that we're praying for Tina and she's a strong woman and she's already been through so much with the loss of her child and now to have to deal with this.
But God bless her because, like you said, she's doing the right thing.
But now they're going to steal the election in North Carolina, which is a swing state.
So after this devastation, right, they've...
It's called an emergency election change.
The Board of Elections have made emergency election rule shifts, and this includes easier access to absentee ballots, more time to apply for ballots, drop off anywhere in the state, and quote-unquote assistant teams to go collect ballots and bring them God knows where.
So this whole thing's going sideways where people are pointing out like, hey, If you don't have to vote in the county in which you live, there's going to be absolutely no way for them to track the votes.
And when they track turnouts, remember how in Wisconsin they were seeing like 110% of the registered voters voting in certain counties?
They won't even be able to track that now.
So what you're going to see in North Carolina is going to be a complete you-know-what show,
and it's all going to be fraud, and they're going to bust people in, and they're going
to print the ballots, stuff the boxes, and who knows where they came from.
They'll just say, hey, it came from this county or that county.
So there will be some people who can't vote because of whatever.
They may have left the state.
The numbers are going to be insane.
It's going to look like, I mean, you're probably going to see 150 percent of the registered
voters voting in that election in North Carolina.
And I'm sure, you know, it won't be...
It'll be like 100% of the votes found at one ballot box went to Kamala Harris, you know?
That's the kind of stuff we're going to see in North Carolina.
And now they're going to try to do it to...
I think they're going to try to do it to Florida, too, with this next hurricane they're going to plow through there.
Yeah. So that's a story.
I mean, Nick, there are so many stories right now.
Yeah. And I feel like this is...
You know, I told people, and I've been saying this and you've heard me say it before, that
they shot their shot too early with COVID in 2020 and they were still able to pull it
off, but they shot their shot too early with COVID.
They thought the Black Lives Matter riots and the Antifa riots and COVID would, you
know, carry through the election, but then it didn't.
It waned and then they had to get desperate.
And that's why you saw, you know, 3 a.m. trucks pulling up, dumping ballots.
You saw all this stuff because they were desperate and they were going to get whooped by Trump.
And then they desperately had 18 wheelers full of ballots driven from Pennsylvania down to who knows where.
That's true. And they did all these crazy things.
But this time...
They're not going to make the same mistake twice, okay?
They are hitting us with everything they have right now.
They have weather weapons.
They have elections being rigged in broad daylight without a COVID emergency.
But now the COVID emergency is the weather.
Oh, the worst Category 5 hurricanes.
Did you know, Nick, that there will be Another Category 5 hurricane after this Milton hits.
They're saying another Category 5 hurricane is going to...
Now, then it's going to plow through Louisiana.
And we're going to have another Katrina.
And it'll all be right before the election, too.
And this is highly going to affect voter turnout.
and you know these these naive leftists sit around and say oh, serves your right for denying
climate change and they ignore all of the evidence and facts that these
weather weapons a hundred percent exist and one of the people who I like to
follow the most about all this is this guy named Ben Davidson from Suspicious
Observers and he's been very critical and outspoken against people
who think that the weather weapons exist. He mocks people and chastises
them saying that you know it's all a psyop, right? That it's all...
Why would the government let Jesse Ventura and the History Channel tell us that HAARP is manipulating the weather, that that in and of itself is a psyop to make us believe they can do it when they really can't, but they can do things, but not to the level that they say.
But then he'll also say in the same breath that the stuff that they have is super secret and they would never let us know about it.
So, which is it, Ben?
I mean, honestly. Is it that we're all being psyoped into believing they can control the weather?
Or is it that the programs, you just don't know about them?
You know what I mean? And I think it's obvious to most people watching this.
That, you know, look, I understand weather happens.
I understand there are hurricanes.
But, you know, three Category 5 hurricanes in an election year.
Just, I mean, make it...
With the eye being smaller, the eyes of the hurricane being smaller than ever in recorded history.
It is absolutely engineered.
And here's the thing. It could also be the sun.
I mean, we have a sun that does crazy stuff right now.
But maybe the sun in coordination with some weather weapons.
I mean, we have all types of stuff, but we have been hit by some of the biggest geo-space storms in history, like these solar flares.
We had an X-9 solar flare the other day.
We have another massive solar flare coming in that's going to cause storms all over the weekend.
So I think it's a combination.
I'm going to let the cat out of the bag.
I know a lot about this stuff.
I know the person that made it.
The very first model ever made before they made the harp up in Alaska.
All right, I know the man.
He told me about it.
The Russians had this too back in the 80s, but they didn't understand how to steer it.
They didn't know how to start stuff.
They couldn't steer it very well.
And it doesn't even take very much.
You can use sound waves, you can use Doppler, but there's scalar waves.
Scalar waves are going to steer the atmosphere all the way up to the ionosphere and push
it upwards and so on.
You can do all kinds of different stuff, but you can use a couple of tugboats.
Well, not tug, but a little bit bigger boats.
Take them out there and you can start stuff up.
And I saw lasers that were documented being used, you know, on the weather pattern.
You can see how the Doppler radars could even be used to steer by creating depressions and stuff like that.
When it comes to weather, you know, high and low pressure and stuff like that, you can create it using electromagnetic energy, like a vacuum that would steer things certain ways.
It's very, like, there's all kinds of different ways.
What's happening now is not fringe.
There's many technical ways to do it.
What I've seen, though, is not just amateurs.
What I've seen so far is a state sponsor.
We're talking people with technology that's Weather weapons that have been developed well beyond most governments.
And what they're doing is attacking the United States.
And I have an idea of what country that is, but I can't prove it.
Yeah. So, and look, I don't know.
I don't know. Are they doing it?
Who knows? Regardless of if they're doing it and steering these storms or if there's just like, oh, coincidence, you know, there are coincidences, I guess.
They are certainly seizing upon this to exploit it.
And achieve the goals, the ends that they're trying to get here with regard to the election.
I mean, as Kamala Harris sits on Colbert, drinking beer with him, pretending to be a normal human being, she's, you know, again, doing the same thing she did with the first hurricane.
And... I just, I don't know.
I don't want to spend the whole show on this, Nick, because we have, we really, like I said, I just wanted to tell people, hey, there are a lot of stories out there, and we're going to try to cover them.
I'll try to get into all of those in more detail in tomorrow's show, because they're all going to still be there.
Certainly, we're going to be seeing the effects of Milton as it makes landfall in Tampa, which
by the way, happens to be where, what is that?
That's where our military central command is for the SOCOM, right?
We have a lot more intelligence stuff going on there than just that.
Yeah, but that's one of the main SOCOM bases, the command centers.
Yes, what's happening now is targeted attacks.
They are targeting the United States in certain ways, in exact locations.
And right outside of Tampa, We're good to go.
If it's coming from a satellite, it's very hard to mitigate, especially if you've already got a whole bunch of cover.
The way it is, you have to use satellite wars.
You have to send something up.
It's going to be a very complex war to mitigate it.
At this point, I think they're just going to let them do what they do, and there's already a backup plan because you've got to let them use enough rope to hang themselves, and that's what they're doing right now.
Well, whatever it is, it just seems strange that this is all happening at this point in time.
I mean, this is to me, Nick, this is exactly what I predicted would happen, that they would, in the last 25th hour, right before everything was about to go down, they would pull out every trick and thing they had in their playbook, and they would just do it all at once, and it would bombard us in a way that, you know...
If they can keep us on our heels, keep us on our laurels, that's the plan.
It's the same reason that the Venezuelan commandos are running the Venezuelan gangs.
They're not operating by themselves.
They have protections and they have been trained well by Venezuelan commandos.
And they're the ones controlling them.
So I think after they hit a few of the bases that they want to hit, then we're going to see an assault start to happen.
Personally, I hope it doesn't happen, but there are enough people in our country that have come through the border that I think after they hit us a couple more times...
You're going to start to see aggressive attacks, sabotage.
The Air Force has already been sabotaged with some of their aircraft and other stuff going on.
There's a lot happening now.
We are in full-on war, Craig.
This is going from fifth-generation covert war in the shadows to in your face.
It's going to go hot soon in America.
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Welcome back to Sform Talk Radio.
I'm your host, Craig James. And we've talked a little bit about some of the stories happening today.
So we have a guest coming on the second hour, and I want to make sure we get through some of your story, Nick, that's coming out here.
So let's just, I'm going to give you the floor for a second.
I want you to tell the whole audience basically about the book.
What's it called? Who wrote it?
What's it about?
And it's being released this Friday.
And why it's going to be so important.
This might become the October surprise.
If it gets any amplification, it could be a book that really does shake people.
And I think we'll see if Trump, you know, elevates it.
But you tell us about it.
Well, Craig, basically it goes all the way back to when Alan was in the Middle East.
There is a documentary film made about him.
Okay, tell us who Alan is.
You keep saying his name, but people need to know who he is.
Alan Perrault is the foremost expert in falcons.
Ornithologists have nothing on him.
Okay, he is obsessed with falcons.
He knows more about them.
that lives, okay? That's why the Middle East loved him because they don't go
they don't go drink some cognac and smoke cigars in a room play cards
together and gamble. They don't do that. They go falcon hunting together. It's so
sacred that even when warring tribes or corals are going on, they're all put
aside for this falcon hunting because it's sacred to them.
And they all go together.
They put all their differences aside.
And that's when everybody's super relaxed and it's sacred.
So it's kind of like...
If you remember the mafia, the Don or whatever, he has someone show up and say, you asked me for this favor on my daughter's birthday, you know, whatever.
It's one of those moments kind of thing.
It's like you're catching them at the best time to ask mom and dad for a favor type thing.
So that's why terrorists would go there and try and get money.
They begged and begged and begged for a long time.
And look, quite frankly, the Arab The sheiks, they were indifferent.
They were like, leave me alone.
Quit pestering me. Eventually, they gave them some money and some other stuff happened.
Of course, our government was involved in it.
I want everybody to understand that in this book, there's going to be countries that look like they're in a bad spot.
I want everybody to understand that That you cannot punish people for the sins of their fathers.
There are people who made decisions in the past that are affecting us today from those countries that are no longer in power and they're not a threat anymore.
We need to work with these new leaders that have come in because they want to modernize Islam.
They want to modernize, at least not westernize, but just modernize their countries.
And they want to make sure they're compatible and they can trade well and they don't have any issues with other countries.
And they're trying to get rid of terrorism to themselves.
At least they're really amping it up.
All right. So let's hold on.
I think we're kind of skipping over some important parts here because you're kind of just you're jumping into the deep end before we've gotten through the shallower.
Okay, so Alan is an expert at Falcons.
Okay, how did you meet Alan?
How did this relationship start?
And then what's the name of the book, and is Alan the author?
Alan is not the author.
Alan was...
The subject of the book.
The subject of the book, and he was a very good friend of mine.
Who is the author of the book?
The author of the book is from Steve Lachelle.
He is a gold star parent, friend of a gold star parent, that helped them write their books.
He's got a PhD. He's a real smart guy.
And he's doing it out of the kindness of his heart.
What is the title of the book?
It's called Extortion 17's Why, an Analysis of Narratives by Alan Howell Perrault, interviewed by Nicholas Ngo.
So it's a transcribed interview of you interviewing Alan, who you've explained to us is a falconer Who ingratiated himself with very powerful people in the Middle East who gave him information that illuminated a story that our government has been trying to hide for the last 10 plus years.
Yes, our government is just completely, as a lot of people know, there's a petrodollar where the U.S. dollar was used to make purchases for oil only, so that's what gave a lot of value to the U.S. dollar.
The Strait of Hormones was protected because of that, and that's all gone now.
But Alan was in the mix of all of this because he was the foremost expert in falcons, and so he would help breed them.
Actually, and he also was on a track, too, where he was helping To stop smugglers that were taking, you know, basically capturing wild ones and taking them over to Saudi Arabia and so on because they were depleting the populations of them and they were actually, some of them, you know, got almost endangered because of it.
And Alan's work actually helped stop that.
And he helped teach them that you cannot breed a falcon that's from the Arctic with a falcon that's from, I don't know, let's say Belize or something, whatever.
You can't do that.
They were doing stuff like that and then harming...
I mean, the offspring basically had no chance.
Like, they're super hot territory.
All right, let's stay on track.
We know about Hawks and Falcons.
They're cool. His passion for Falcons is how this all came about.
And in the book, you'll find out...
So you're interviewing Alan, right?
And tell us the story that Alan tells you.
So, in the book, basically, Alan started from, he tells me his whole life story, you know, how it all started for him, and how he ended up in the position he's in, and was in, and then he even talks about, you know, his relationships, interpersonal relationships, and with the sheikhs and kings and things like that, and Later, there's a movie he made about his time over there.
He came back to America after 20 years or so.
And decided to retire.
And there's a documentary called Feathered Cocaine about it, where Alan is in the documentary, and so is General Paul Vallely, who also is the same general who validated the existence of Q, by the way, and a good friend of mine.
Well, apparently he's also the guy who set up the meeting between Trump and Putin.
Oh, yeah, he did say that, didn't he?
I think he did say that publicly recently.
Yeah, so basically, you know, he, okay, look, so, okay, this is a really important part.
So General Vallely was the one of the, he was the guy who was put in charge of creating the Special Forces.
He created it, all right?
And what happened was right before the Special Forces launched his baby, that he was going to be the head of it, they threw in a State Department head in charge of it.
And the State Department really is an extension for tax-exempt foundations like the Clinton Foundation, the Ford Foundation, the Carnegie Foundation.
That's really what the State Department is, and their policies are not in line with America.
And then so Kennedy had created...
The special forces to mitigate the deep state.
And then the very first thing that happens is they headed it off by putting their person that was in charge of the State Department, a State Department head in charge of it.
And that's what ruined everything, the plan to stop the deep state.
And then they got Kennedy.
That's a whole other story.
So Alan here, in Feathered Cocaine, he talks about how...
You know, he was in the middle of these camps and he saw these terrorists exchanging money and doing things.
And all he did ever was just basically he would stay quiet and just say nothing.
He would try to make it so that he does not interfere with their business ever.
Okay. Let's take a break.
I want you to come back and keep going.
This is the story that's important.
This is what's going to be exposed in this book.
Stay tuned, we're coming right back.
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And, Nick, just pick up where you left off.
One of the most important parts about the book that's going to lead into what Matt talks about today is that the way they do business is completely different than the West over there.
For example, if someone was trying to sell Falcons, they wouldn't go to Dubai, Abu Dhabi, and then another place all trying to make a deal, even though the Falcons Even if, like, let's say you didn't make a deal, the other guys will find out about it.
And by the time you even get there, they're not interested because it's like secondhand Falcons, even though they never purchased them.
All right, so what they do with a proper way to do business there is called Hadiyah.
And you'd bring in priceless gifts in a tradition of Hadiyah and you would, for example, Alan brought his falcons to the UAE to President Sheikh Zayed in 1981.
He signed a contract and essentially, you know, he negotiated directly with the president for $12,000 per falcon for each 10 falcons.
And having lived in places and learned about Hadiyah, he'd learned that the President would
ask, they would say how much.
And this is what they're supposed to do properly.
If they're a good businessman, they'll say, oh, it's not for money, this is a gift.
Bada Hadiyah.
Bada Hadiyah.
This is a gift.
And in their tradition, the host, the sheikh, would then say, hold on, I must give you more than it's worth.
So for example, if it's worth $30,000, they'll really press you to get how much it's really worth.
Let's say it's $30,000, then they'll give you $40,000 or $50,000 for each bird.
Or they'll give you $30,000 with a $10,000 tip for each falcon or however they do it.
But usually... Usually when they do business, it's always offered.
There's always some sort of gift offered first.
And there's some funny parts to it.
And it has to do with their culture and how they do things.
For example, one time Alan, he said, I'm not going to accept any money.
And then they threw an envelope over it and it landed on his lap, right?
It's got over $100,000.
Over a hundred grand just in his lap, and he throws it back at him.
And they throw it back at each other, and then they do that for a couple minutes, and they both stop just laughing hysterically about how funny it was.
And they said, no, I don't want it.
This is Adia.
And that's the way their culture works.
And then eventually he kept the envelope.
Yeah, I hope so.
So that's how it works, right?
And so whenever we talk about how bin Laden was not actually killed in Afghanistan, the whole argument Alan is saying is not that it had to be the gold team as people have tried to pigeonhole him and say he's lying, it's the gold team. No, that's not how it works.
That's not how their culture works.
In their culture, they see things tribally.
So, whenever Bin Laden got out at the last second, his son was killed.
So, he wanted something called DI. Wait, wait.
Please, you need to explain some more before you just jump into this, okay?
Oh, yeah. Okay, so...
So, let's back up, talk about Bin Laden.
So Alan found bin Laden in Iran, and he is so smart, and he just does not let details go.
And when he knows he's right, he does not stand down.
I'm telling you, this guy, when he's right, he's right, so you better watch out.
So when he found him, He did the right thing and went to our State Department, said, State Department, I found bin Laden.
Let's go get him. No answer.
And then he went to the CIA. He even went to other people who were former intelligence who all said, yeah, you found him.
Let's go do this. And they start to put together a coalition to go pick him up.
Bill Richardson being one of them and some other people.
And as soon as they got it all ready and they were about to take off and do their thing to go basically catch bin Laden and pick him up, then the CIA director, Panetta at the time, called and said, if you go over there and you get bin Laden or try to, we're going to tell Iran that you're there.
And they're going to pick you up and torture you to death.
All right? That was from the CIA director.
So to put that together, Bill Richardson, the former governor of New Mexico, was approached by Alan Perot, and then they...
They went to prep school together, yeah.
They went to prep school together. Which Bill Richardson is a famous Epstein client, but that's another thing.
They put together a coalition with special forces saying, okay, we're going to go to Iran where we know bin Laden is to pick him up.
Our own government says if you do that, we're going to expose you and we're going to basically turn you over to our enemy.
Yes, that's correct.
Okay. And that, to him, so Alan uses waypoints and triangulation.
He's a very smart person.
He does not think in a linear way.
And he also has the ability to yogi.
Wait. And explain how Bin Laden got to Iran.
John Brennan, none other than John Brennan himself, took him from the hospital in Tora Bora, where I think he's on
kidney dialysis, he took him personally over to Iran.
And look, everybody says, oh my god, he's on kidney dialysis, he can't live forever. Yes, yes, yes. But look, this guy
has 30 kids, you know, 40 kids.
I'm sure one of them's willing to give him a kidney.
Alright, one of them's a match.
Alright, so let's just put that to bed.
Alright, so this guy's over there with his son.
He's probably his favorite son.
He's trained the most in that.
He's a part of Al-Qaeda.
He's leading these same people to attack on jihad, right?
And so Iran makes the deal with Saudi Arabia and the United States, mainly just John Brennan and the Bush family, to keep bin Laden in Iran on one condition, that he does not attack the United States or the other countries that are part of this agreement.
Wait, so he keeps destabilizing the Middle East to keep the requisite existential threat that keeps us there militarily to push China and Russia out, right?
Right. Hypothetically, this is what he's doing.
To a degree. It could be.
It could be a long-term goal, yeah.
Yeah, well, that's what it starts to sound like, right?
We're taking a quick break.
We're going to come back.
I'm trying to make sure we keep focused on the story and getting all the details.
So stay tuned.
We're coming back after the break.
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There's a man with a gun over there, telling me I got to beware.
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Okay, Nick, getting, so, okay, so he's taken from Tora Bora to Iran by John Brennan, Osam bin Laden, that is.
That's right. How does his family get to Abbottabad?
Does he go from Iran to Abbottabad?
That's in Pakistan, right?
That's right. There's a double agent in Iran who was working with Pakistani intelligence to have that happen.
So I'm not sure that Iran even knew at that point that it had happened, but they were interested in just handing them to us.
Iran was just going to give them to us into coalition custody.
It's against their religion.
Even if they're the most heinous criminal in the world, they will not allow a coffer or non-believer to punish a Muslim.
It's not allowed. It's haram.
All right. So, you know, so basically they were going to do – Iran was like, dude, all right, you got us, you know, and they actually didn't want to be a part of it anymore, I think, at that point.
But the reason it all happened, that he was discovered and that Brennan messed up, is because – Al-Qaeda that was in Iran went against—it was bin Laden's son.
He went against the deal.
He broke the deal by trying to kill bin Naif, who is a Saudi official, and they tried to kill him with a car bomb and almost killed his son.
And then he was irate.
He knew it was them, and he lost his mind, and he went on— He said, you better get John Brennan down here to come fix this right now.
We had a deal in 2001.
We had a deal.
It kind of reminds me of Eric Cartman.
He said, we had a deal, Kyle.
He was so angry.
I want to make sure, because you have a brain that goes very fast, and I want to make sure we keep it slow for people like me.
Osama was in Iran.
Presumably as a part of a deal brokered from back to 9-11, right?
Yes. And he's the existential destabilizing force there in the Middle East.
So then we fast forward and there is a deal that's broken between...
Explain the deal that was between Saudi Arabia and Iran that was broken.
It was a deal between Saudi Arabia, Iran, and the United States, mainly John Brennan and the Bush family.
Yeah, to protect the Saudi-Bush interest in...
And they're not allowed to attack the country.
They're not allowed to attack Saudi Arabia, the United States.
So Osama's son breaks this, but Iran won't hand him over to...
Iran will not hand him over to the U.S. because it's Haram.
Yes, yes. Is this the point when Iran starts blackmailing the U.S. with the fact that Iran or the fact that Assad was there?
And is this how we get the JCPOA and the Iran deal and the pallets of cash?
That comes after, so Alan, he has different waypoints.
That was one of them. That document that he has in his possession, it proves the deal was in existence, and they refer to the deal several times explicitly about the deal.
Some of the very key details of the deal going back to 2001.
And then, of course, he has other stuff.
He has audio recordings of John Brennan and other people like that.
These people are retarded.
Forgive my language. That's probably not politically correct.
They're stupid. And Alan caught them all.
He caught them. And then after he caught them all, he said, look, guys, even to our State Department, he said to Iran...
He said it to the State Department.
He said it to Saudi Arabia, too.
He said, look, I got you.
All right, so let's figure out a way to work this out.
And he gave him six scenario options.
And then one of the scenario options was the trophy kill.
Oh, okay. The trophy kill, which is what we all were told happened.
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So Nick, I mean, we got a Matt Kubler on the phone.
I'm hoping I'm pronouncing that name correctly.
Um, he's joining us now.
And Nick, do you want to give us kind of an introduction?
Yes, Matt was, I met Matt through Jeremy Slayton.
And I met Jeremy when I saw him.
Basically, I saw on Instagram, he summarized and put together in, you know, short order, because it doesn't have much time, exactly all of the information combined that was available that was not assembled together.
He did that really well and succinctly, and I thought, man, that's great.
So I contacted Jeremy, and along the way, that's where I met Matt.
Matt is relentless and he started his path down this path when he started investigating a murder that happened inside the wire in one of the commander's bunks for the Navy SEALs.
He'll tell you more about that in his background in law enforcement.
I'd rather have him explain it for everybody.
Absolutely. So, without further ado, let's welcome to the show our guest today, Matt Cubbler.
Are you there? Hey, how we doing?
Do you guys hear me all right? Yeah, we can hear you just fine.
And thank you, first of all, for joining us.
There's so much information on PAC here, but I'm going to give you the floor, Matt, for the next couple minutes until we hit our first break.
Tell the audience your story, your background, and how you've come to where you're at today.
Sure. I appreciate the opportunity, and thank you to Nick as well for making this happen.
Anytime I get a chance to tell Commander Drake Price's story, even if it's part of a larger story, I always seize the moment.
So I'm a 30-year veteran cop.
I retired last June, a year, a little over a year ago.
I was an Army Intelligence Analyst in the late 80s, early 90s.
I had a long career of investigating and analyzing information.
And in 2012, Commander Joe Price, Commander of SEAL Team 4, was found dead in his bunk with a single gunshot wound to his head.
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He was one of the most determined human beings I've ever met in my life and super smart and three-sport athlete, captain.
He was just the epitome of resilient and hardworking.
So when I heard he had supposedly committed suicide, it didn't sit right.
But who am I to question that narrative?
And back in 2012, I wasn't thinking the same way that I do today.
Most of us weren't. So, fast forward to 2019, I started a podcast back in 2018 and was doing interviews, and I thought a great interview would be Job's sister, Bronwyn, to talk about her brother, just to share who he was as a man and as a brother and a son and all that.
I requested that of her, and she's like, well, can you come meet my father and me at the house?
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I called his murder book. And it's 350-some pages, and they said, you know, something's not right with what happened to Job.
And, you know, everyone has denied us the ability to dig deeper, and we wanted to know if he'd be interested in doing that for us.
So I looked at it.
It took me about a week.
I had a lot of questions, and a lot of things just didn't add up to me.
And I said, all right, I'm in. I'll do an investigation into this.
So that was in 2019.
We're now five years into this, where I, you know, volunteered my time for the founder, and I'll never ask for any money or anything like that.
I was able to, on my own, without getting a whole lot of help from anyone, especially no one within the Big Navy or NSW, determined that certain things could not have happened And many things that did happen point to an alternative answer other than suicide.
So to, I'd say, 2022, I kind of backed off.
COVID was crushing everybody.
There was no... I had lost all my momentum as far as the investigation went.
And I'm like, I was burned out.
And so I stopped.
And had it not been for Jeremy Slayton, the JCL USA podcast...
We wouldn't be having this conversation today.
So, just to give a little background on how I met Jeremy, I watched him on his stuff on Instagram, and he had posted a conspiracy with Pipe Reel about whether Ben Limean was killed or a body double or whatever.
And Rob O'Neill commented on it.
So, through Joe's investigation, I was brought in with a lot of my sources to a lot of information on other things that They wanted me to look at as well, and I really didn't have the time, but I always kept it in my brain.
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Yeah, all right. So let's hold that right there.
That's a great point to start from when we come back.
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I'm your host, Craig James.
We're with our special guest co-host, Nick Ngo, and our guest for the hour, Matt Kubler, is telling us a pretty incredible story that really is very interesting.
But, Matt, let's pick up where you left off.
You're on Instagram.
You see Jeremy Sladen, who is a friend of the show.
We've had Jeremy on here before.
He has a pretty great story himself.
But you see one of his conspiracy videos about...
The Bin Laden assassination, which apparently Rob O'Neill, the guy who supposedly killed Osama Bin Laden, responds to it, and that's where you kind of left off.
Let's pick back up right there.
Yeah, so I'm a...
And then I think that's where I see somebody like a Robert
O'Neill commenting on a conspiracy video and adding his
two cents about what he supposedly did. I took that as
an opportunity to control him a little bit, so I did. And he
engaged with me and we had a little back and forth and I
dropped a couple little things I might now, but that's
kind of where it ended. And then about six months later.
Jeremy and I've been on the show a bunch of times and
we've been online and we had a lot of good, um, conversations
about many different topics, said, Would you like to come on my show and interview Rob O'Neill?
I'm like, Hell yeah.
I would certainly love to do that.
So, in January, I had the first of three interviews with Rob O'Neill.
The first one was directly about the Osama bin Laden raid.
And I need to preface that, you know, my only goal has always been to find out who killed the oppressed.
And any opportunity I have to talk to a SEAL about Job and get them to comment on it is valuable to me as an investigator.
I came at the Osama Bin Laden raid and death from an investigative perspective, not a conspiracy-minded person.
And I had to go off of the known context of whatever Rob O'Neill was going off of.
And I had counter information that proved that what he was saying was not true.
So I had to work within that box.
So I didn't really stray outside into the body double kind of stuff.
Very linear in the investigative process.
We had our interview, and I let him talk, and he was very cordial.
And Rob's one of those guys that if you sit at a bar, he'll talk your ear off and you'll love it.
He's got a great charismatic personality, but he's also, in his own words, a sociopathic narcissist.
So that doesn't surprise me.
Most people at that level in special ops and those that go public have to have some narcissistic concerns.
So, long story short, he tells his story, the same story he tells every single time.
If you ever watch a Rob O'Neill interview, it's pretty monotonous, the way he does it.
So I let him talk, and then I came back, and I had him walk me through certain things that I had counter-narratives to what he was saying, and I caught him off guard with the red, who was the guy that actually shot Bin Laden in this complex of the conversation, who was the point guy.
And I know who Red is.
I know his name. And Rob knows I know his name now.
And I asked him about Red.
And he kept saying, I'm not going to tell anyone else's story.
And I'm not going to name any names.
I'm like, well, you don't have to. I know his name.
Let's just talk about what he did.
Because you were very clear in every interview you've ever done that the point man did some jiu-jitsu level shit, some amazing tactical stuff.
On that raid when he called out Bin Laden's son and made him poke his head over and killed him in two different dialects, and then they went to the third floor, and he dove on the women who supposedly might have had suicide bombs attached to him, and he should get a Medal of Honor, but he doesn't want to identify who that person is, or at least acknowledge that it's red.
So I get him with that, and then I have him walk me through what happens after the raid.
As far as how long they were there and where they went afterwards, I was aware of a recorded debrief that happened with just the team members and whoever was on the ground on the raid.
It's kind of what every SWAT team, military, the first debrief, which is where everybody says what happened, good, bad, and ugly.
So, Matt, I don't want to interrupt you, but I just want to interject that I don't care, but we are live radio, and this is FCC rules, so we've got to watch the language.
But keep going. I think that word is allowed.
Oh, okay. Good.
Well, I know that that might be allowed, but then I don't know where it's going after that.
You know what I mean? Yeah, I won't drop it in my phone, no problem.
Okay, thank you. So...
I tell him that I heard the recording, and at no point in time, during that recording, did he mention killing Osama Bin Laden?
And that took him aback, and he said, yeah, I regretted not saying that at that time, but that's not where we would brag about what we did.
I said, well, it's really not bragging. It's an overview of what happened.
Like, everybody tells their card what they did.
I breached this door. I used this much C4. You know, whatever they did, that's kind of when that happened.
After that interview, he kind of wanted to become chummy, and Rob's go-to move is to ingratiate you and make you feel you're close to him and one of his friends, so we got him to agree to two more interviews.
And from that moment, I realized that an opportunity to get Job's case more publicly heard on a larger scale by using these opportunities talking to famous seals to interject and bring in his case.
It was, you know, swung up our defenses, hoping it would work, and not really having a lot of hope that it would, but the O'Neal thing sort of went viral, and I got him to talk about Job's case, and then subsequent interview, I got him to talk about Roberts Ridge, I got him to talk about Red Wing, I got him to talk about Extortion 17, and all, you know, obviously there's questions about all those things, and some have been vetted already, like Roberts Ridge, they know what happened, but, you know, Mark Luttrell and his story and what happened with extortion is still very much up in the air.
So I haven't talked about those things.
So my goal was to get Job's name interjected every time I was on an interview talking about another topic, just so Job got the light shone on him at some point in time.
And it worked. I went on a bunch of other podcasts and Hundreds and hundreds of thousands of views.
I got whistleblowers coming out from the SEALs and the Marines.
Hundreds and hundreds of thousands of views.
Joe's name is always brought up in every one of those.
So it kind of just grew into this I'm latching on, and people don't like that I did this, and I honestly don't care, because my only goal is to find the truth about what happened to Jared Price.
So when I was attacking or verbally calling out Jack Willink or Mark Sattrell or what Chris Kyle may or may not have done while he was in country, Sean Ryan, it created a lot of turmoil for me, but it created a lot of views and comments on the videos and podcasts.
The plan worked well, so much so that I got contracted by a very prominent documentary film company and signed a deal.
You don't get paid as part of a documentary, but I signed an exclusive agreement to do Joe Price's story as a documentary film with an Academy Award-nominated director and producer.
They both won a couple of Emmys.
They're very well respected in the community.
The plan worked to get Job, in his case, to be brought to the forefront because it never happened.
You only get the ones that are the war story hero cases like Mark Siltrell or Chris Kyle who get movies made about him or Rob O'Neill who lies out through his teeth and gets millions and millions and millions of dollars to do so.
So I've spent this time, this last eight months, nine months, Working this plan so that Job's case will get uncovered.
And from that, the final piece of evidence that has been the most vital to me is that I'm not a forensic expert.
I've been on a lot of crime scenes.
I've been on a lot of suicides, a lot of homicides, but I'm not a forensic expert.
I know what's not right and what is right, but I really don't know that I'm not in the weeds with it.
So from this, we now have five independently certified forensic experts who all say Job Price was murdered.
And that's what the story, the documentary film is going to focus on, is the evidence.
And I can go deep dive into that.
But Robert O'Neill is, I will thank him for playing along.
Even if he didn't know he was playing along.
Well, Matt, can I ask, you know, with regard to Joe, because I think, you know, his story does matter, and I'm glad that you're doing all this, because we can't forget about, especially the people who, you know, don't get the notoriety or the publicity, like you said.
Can you share with us...
Well, can you share with us any working theory on why he was murdered?
Yeah. Absolutely.
So, Job was always a rule-following kind of guy.
He was an order and very disciplined, and that's how he led the leader in the Navy SEALs.
And when he got his first command assignment, it was Commander of SEAL Team 4 in Afghanistan.
He wanted regulation air cuts.
He wanted good order and discipline.
He didn't want guys running amok like they had been for years.
You look at the stories...
With Rob O'Neill and Mark Sancho, they were just Jocko and Ramadi and how they ran that city into the ground.
If you just look at the way they did business, it was very gang-ish in the way they approached their job.
And Job wanted to create more of a well-oiled military machine with honor and dignity and discipline.
So that created a problem.
He had a lot of people who didn't like him.
There was...
Joe took over for SEAL Team 2's deployment.
They were the ones that rolled out when SEAL Team 4 rolled in.
There had been an incident where a detainee was killed by a couple SEALs and some Afghani local police, and the Taliban had swore out retribution against the SEALs.
And Joe was never told about it when he took over command.
And then shortly after taking command, a couple Special Forces guys were killed by an Afghan national police officer.
I'm investigating. They were, like, talking to a detainee and the Afghani National Police killed the Special Forces guys.
And then two of Job's Seals were killed in ambushes in the month of November.
And one of them was, everyone that I spoke to believes this one would be the one, the second one, which was Kevin Ebert, who was killed, and that's the one that was the retribution.
And Job, you know, was a caring man.
He was a perfectionist.
He wanted his team to do well and for his tour to be successful.
And it had been marred by controversy and death from the beginning.
And not to mention the fact that they hated him for being a tough leader.
But, you know, there was some criminal activity that went on.
There was $30,000 up and I've heard even $40,000 missing from ASOT money, which is
basically CIA money for operations in theater for paying off families of
members who were killed accidentally or buying information from murals.
Bye.
So that money went missing, and a couple days before Joe died, he had confronted the SEAL that was responsible for that and said, listen, you have two days to get this money returned, or else there's going to be a problem.
And then two days later, Joe responded in his bunk.
And it was very clear to me from the get-go that There was a lot of staging going on.
In fact, I mean, I get in the weeds as far as how NCIS screwed everything up and how they gave access for nine hours to his gloom and his body after he was discovered dead to the SEALs and how anything could have happened to the crime scene.
Everything that did happen was manipulated.
They washed his entire body.
They moved the bags in his hands, which would have contained DNA and G.S. gunshot residue.
They washed his whole body and dressed him and then put the bags back on.
I mean, there was a lot of That was done by the SEAL team.
So, a lot of covering up type actions and criminal actions.
I mean, it's against the law, you know, tamper with evidence, and nobody was ever held accountable for anything.
And when you look at that from the 35,000 foot view, it looks bad.
But when you get granular with it, it's real bad.
And so that's what kept me moving forward, that knowledge that you don't cover up a suicide.
You don't need to alter evidence.
It sounds to me like he was a good man trying to do the right thing, and he paid the price for that, and now our government decided that it would look bad if they told the true story, so they gave you a fake story, right?
Yeah, and they withheld reports like the GSR report, the DNA report.
I just got those, fine.
I've been doing FOIAs for eight months and finally just got one with those reports.
And the reports, all they did was validate murder.
They didn't do anything to show he committed suicide.
There was no GSR testing on any part of his body, which is literally law enforcement investigator 101,
is you need to have that.
You take samples at the scene, but then you also preserve it
so more samples can be taken later.
Well, apparently no samples were taken at the scene.
They didn't preserve anything because they let him wash his body.
And for our audience, GSR's gunshot residue This is a normal, standard investigative procedure that you would do when somebody fires a weapon, right?
To determine who fired it, when it was fired, etc., right?
And the right bullets, too, matching powders and stuff.
Yeah, and, you know, they did show on the report that the gun, bullet, casing for all, the gun was used to fire that bullet in that casing, but it doesn't show that there was any DNA on any of those things other than the bullet because it landed in a, supposedly, placed, I believe, in a pile of blood.
I think that gun was fired outside of the ring because nobody heard a gunshot.
And not one person.
And this is one of those concrete metal bullets, you know, they call it a Green Mile, where you fire it at one end and you can hear it at the other.
And, you know, these are trained warriors, so if you hear gunfire, you're going to know it's gunfire.
So no one heard anything.
You know, so there's a part of that as far as whether it's a suppressed weapon.
The gun Job had in his hand was not suppressed.
I don't doubt that the gun and the bullet and the casing all matched.
I'm just saying they didn't get shot in that room.
And they were shot and planted.
Well, look. There's the musical cue.
Yeah, there's the musical cue, but it's okay.
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I'm your host, Craig James.
We're joined by our special guest co-host, Nick Ngo, and our guest for the hour, Matt Cobbler.
He's just told us an incredible story that really we're glad to be able to shine some more light on.
But Nick, I wanted you to jump in here and kind of go whatever direction you had planned for Matt as far as just talking about Extortion 17 and this book that's coming out on Friday.
I want to kind of let you finish that thought because we kind of had to cut off that at the break to give Matt a chance to kind of tell his story.
But let's go back in that direction if you don't mind.
Alright, so let's do that real quick.
So with Extortion 17, I'm not sure that I watched that interview with him to hear Rob O'Neill's comments on it.
Could you share with us what he shared with you?
Well, he shared the narrative that it was, you know, Why they chose to put everybody on one helicopter, all the narrative stuff that's already out there.
And then I questioned him about the RPG and told him that I didn't tell that it was a stinger.
And he told me that I was wrong.
That was towards the end.
That was the last topic we covered. He realized that I wasn't going to become his best friend.
So you're starting to get more agitated.
As our interviews went on, we had like eight hours of interview with him.
It's all gold. It's all great stuff because I let him down a path to where I needed him to say certain things, and he did.
He went on, I'll just give you a little side note, and I think I sent this to you, Nick.
He did like a two and a half minute diatribe about me and Jeremy and how we're a bunch of...
Jackwagon, I think was the term that he used, and that we lied and made up stuff, and that we're conspiracy theorists, and we question everything.
If you go back and listen to everything, everything he said was completely false, and he's the one that actually brought up a lot of those conspiracies.
Yeah, I watched that.
You guys were pretty polite, actually, with the whole thing.
I thought so. So I did watch the one where you talked about Extortion 17, and it was funny when I noticed the point when you said, you know, that these were Stingers.
He was like, well, I was too close to be a Stinger.
And they just, they hit the helicopter blade with an RPG. And it's just, you know, you could tell he was certainly reaching, you know?
And I think that, Nick, to go back to what you were saying with your interview of...
Alan Perot and this book that's coming out on Friday, you know, we've talked about this whole kind of sequence of events.
Now, could you talk, Nick, a little bit about the, what is it, the Hadia?
And that, like, kind of the why gold team...
Forgive me, I'm forgetting which one was the team that was in the helicopter extortion and which one was the one that took out SEALs.
It was a gold team.
So why that would work in Islamic culture?
Oh, yes, because that's what Alan was really getting at.
It's his narrative, and it's what he talks about as an Arabist.
With the Hadiyah, the gift thing, where you don't actually go in there to try and sell something.
You're like, here's a gift. And then they say, oh, how much do you want for your gift?
I don't know. And then you go back and forth.
It's kind of like when someone tries to get the check at the end of a meal.
All right. So, you know, that's kind of how it was.
Yeah. He also went on to explain that there's even a going rate, how much it costs.
Going back at that time, for example, if you accidentally ran over someone and killed them or something, and you're like, oh my gosh, I'm so sorry.
Typically, the family won't try and send you to jail.
They'll just say, all right, you got to pay this $30,000 or whatever it was at that time.
And so Dia, the whole concept is you get to kill the person who killed your family member, or you get blood money, or you get to kill someone from their tribe.
And that's what Bin Laden wanted because they killed his son.
So he said, I want the blood of the Navy SEALs, right?
And that's what he got.
And they arranged it that way.
That's the way I understand it.
That's my theory about it.
I mean, it kind of goes back to what Matt was saying about Job and that cash.
I mean, that's what that CIA cash was there for, right?
You said paying families, paying people who'd been wronged, right?
Yeah. Yeah, absolutely.
Okay, go on then. Yes.
So that's not a foreign thing, and that's why the money went, you know, the pallets of cash had to go to Iran, because how are they going to explain we didn't kill bin Laden, and they'd be like, wait, you invaded an airspace, a sovereign country's airspace, to go kill someone that was not bin Laden, and how do you explain yourself?
And then they would have to say, well, I guess he was in Iran before that.
And we put him there to be the boogeyman so we could go take out all these
countries and take all of their things.
That's what, that was the biggest issue.
So they had to, so they had to cover that up.
So then you're like, all right, go ahead, make it even for him.
And then Iran's like, Hey, Hey, Hey, we want money.
We want money though.
And then they, uh, they got money that kept pallets of cash.
And then some of the money that were pallets of cash got kickbacks.
And I actually know the pilot that went to go drop off this, this money.
Um, and, uh, they were, they were kept in one of those people as a Air Force
Academy, top, top rat, you know, top of their flight or top of their class.
This guy can shoot.
He's an expert marksman sniper.
He's a pilot that can fly most anything.
Anyway, he was my boss at one point, and he would disappear and do stuff.
But he actually went over there to drop off that cash.
So what they did with it, though, is it went back to politicians, part of it.
And then, of course, the summit went to Iran.
And then, you know, for...
Bin Laden, he wanted blood, so that's why they set them up.
The Stinger missiles went from a weapons cache in Qatar, and when they went through Benghazi to be sold and then shipped over there to be used by these people to make it even or whatever, they shot it.
I guess there's some sort of way to make it so that I don't know how it works exactly because I never used one.
But I guess you have to turn it or something to make sure that it's armed.
So when you shoot it and it hits the target, it's supposed to explode, but they didn't do that.
So it hit the engine block and then got stuck and then brought it straight down out of the sky.
And this is according to an Air Force pilot or Air Force captain.
She blew the whistle on this because they had overwatch at the time.
They were flying over, and she described what she saw happen, which is exactly what that story says.
And she did this on live TV or national TV. They were told to stand down and not help them and not engage.
It's one of those big gunships.
They can just shoot a few rounds off.
It would scare the life out of them and they'd run away.
But they were ordered not to.
And then the firefight ensued.
And Michael and some of the people were still alive.
And even though they were gravely wounded and still fought to the death.
And It was all because they were covering up a cover-up.
And then that's why they wanted everybody to die in Benghazi because they're the only people that knew about the missiles going through there.
So now they're going to cover that up.
So they want them to die.
And it's all because they were criminals.
Instead of just doing the right thing and doing coalition custody and being done with it, they made up this whole entire plan and then they got caught with their hand in the cookie jar.
One thing people, and I don't know if you saw this in the video or not, Craig, but, I mean, Rob O'Neill was on that bird, him and another guy from Red Squadron.
They were running out to go help, and they were told to get off the helicopter, order off the helicopter.
No, that was Red Wing.
I'm sorry. I confused that.
That was Red Wing. He was supposed to go out on that mission, and they told him no, him and another guy.
But I did get the same intel on extortion as far as where the stinger hit and that it did not explode.
And that's why, with the crash landing, they just basically destroyed the entire bird in order to cover up the fact that the stinger never exploded when it hit the helicopter itself.
Well, I know you're...
Oh, wow, that's good. Well, and you would also point out, Matt, that there were some very strange things done with the bodies.
Yes. And, you know, Michael Strange was a silly guy, so am I, and I've become friends with him, Charlie, who just came out with a book and has a documentary film coming out about Michael.
So, like, there's a lot of issues.
And why, you know, why do you do the things you did to the bodies?
Why do you burn the bodies?
Uh, you burn the body after there's evidence you want destroyed.
Same reason you wash the body before you send it home, get rid of all the evidence.
And the thing about Job and how that the patterns are the same.
They do the same thing over and over again, and they won't get caught.
It sounds like it's standard operating procedure.
Like they follow a protocol.
And, um, and this is, this is why Job story and extortion 17 can be put next to each
other and you can say, wow, that's, that's a strange coincidence, but maybe it's not
a coincidence.
Um, Nick, I apologize for interrupting you, and I do want to kind of give you the floor when we come back and let you and Matt just go at it.
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I'm your host, Craig James.
We got our guest host, co-host Nick Noe on with our guest, Matt Kubler.
And I really want to let you, Nick, take it from here.
Okay. One last thing about Extortion 17.
The Green Berets that were in the city there actually later told Mr.
Charles Woods, Father Ty Woods, that they did not call for help that day.
So that distress, that big Chinook helicopter that came like a sitting duck out there, was not called out.
It was a fake distress call.
They didn't even make the call.
And that guy ended up actually marrying his daughter later.
That's how well they got to know each other.
And I want to next ask, Matt, what would you need or what would you ask of President Trump to help solve this case with Job?
What would we need to happen?
So, you know, now that we have this documentary coming out and Job's name has been attached to so many different big-name seals during my podcast and people now understand what happened to Job and then the forensic evidence that I would never look for That these friends, all the experts said the same things about how his body was manipulated and how the gun was placed back in the can and a bunch of other things that I can't talk about yet because we've got to save it for the film.
But there's enough evidence to prove in any court of law that Job did not commit suicide.
The problem is that we don't have the evidence to prove that somebody killed him because they washed it all away.
So absent someone flipping or someone confessing, We're kind of missing that key ingredient.
But the reality is that that would be the endgame for me as an investigator, because I want justice.
But the real justice will come when someone forces Big Navy to reopen the investigation and say, Joe Price clearly did not kill himself.
However, we don't have the evidence to reopen the case and investigate it.
And changes the amount of death to murder.
And I don't think they will, because I think it's admitting that there was a cover-up.
But The problem with President Trump, and I'm going to inform he's the best option for our future of our country, is that he has seals everywhere around him.
So our biggest hurdle is getting through the disinformation that will be produced by them to slander me, slander Job, slander the investigation, call me a conspiracy theorist, whatever.
That's going to be the biggest hurdle.
And we're hoping that the film is able to The evidence is overwhelming.
I mean, it's not even... The one investigator said, this is probably the easiest homicide investigation I've ever had to do, and I got it done in like an hour.
Like, it's so clearly a homicide.
So I would want the president to fix that.
I would want him to do what he did for Eddie Gallagher, who isn't an innocent CEO. I would want the same level of attention and effort given to Joe Price.
Wow. Hopefully he hears this.
You know, I think that the CIA is one of the biggest issues.
They need to stay out of our military.
We need to stop doing attachments to what they're doing.
And we just kind of need to dissolve them and break them up because these guys, I think, are involved with it.
It seems like they are...
No, 100%. They control the SEALs to an extent.
You know, for example, Rob O'Neill, I'm sure that he got the talk where they take him to a room that's all tile and With a drain in the middle and a seat sitting over the drain and saying, this is the last thing you'll ever see if you talk type thing.
And they need to stop. They need to stay out of the military, I think, doing any deals with the CIA. Yeah, that was a question I had, Matt.
Did Rob strike you through, you're an investigator, you can read violence.
Did he strike you as a guy who's maybe under duress for the fact that he has to tell this, you say, the same story over and over again?
And it does sound rehearsed and you know what I mean?
Yes. Well, there's multiple parts to the Rob O'Neill fame and fortune.
He was the one that was, if you know Matt Bissonnette was the other SEAL under the name Mark Owen, he came out with a book saying he was part of his son of the line killing.
And then the big Navy smacked him down, made him turn in all the money and making that book.
He broke their MBA and didn't have permission, but Rob was given permission.
And people think that that means the Navy said, yes, we believe you are the guy who killed Bin Laden.
All they did was, because I had a book written when I was working for the government, I wrote a book and I had to go through the same process, which basically is, are you giving away TTPs or anything classified?
That's the only thing the Navy did was approve his book because there was nothing classified in their TTPs released.
So that's all the book and his validation that he tries to hold onto that the Navy said that I was the approved story.
But I do believe 100% that he was selected.
He was the one they chose because they have a psychological profile that can lie on demand and continue to do so because he has this ego that needs to be fed, and they will allow him to keep getting it fed.
But until recently, you see he's struggling because he got arrested and charged with assault and using a slur against blacks with a security guard.
Now he's suing that person, saying he can't get any work.
And I think there's the unraveling of Rob O'Neill is happening.
But the Navy's not done.
They have plausible benignability.
They TNG'd him at SEAL Team 6 persona non grata.
He's not allowed back at SEAL Team 6 command.
He's never allowed back there.
But yet he's allowed to go out and talk about things he did while he was at SEAL Team 6.
Because the Navy is going to say, we just approved the book.
We didn't approve the content.
And they have a plausible deniability.
They do that with a lot of people.
You have Chaka Rowling. You look at what he's built.
And he's on the downside because of all the things that came out throughout our whistleblowing with Eric Dunning who came out as Navy SEAL and some Marines about what happened in Ramadi and how Chris Kyle was on a rampage just killing people.
And, you know, he's on the downside, which brings up Sean Ryan.
Sean Ryan is now on the rise.
If you look at his viewership, From January when I came out against Rob O'Neal to now, because Jocko and all the things that followed from that, those initial interviews with Rob, Jack is dropping, so we need to elevate another person.
And he's being elevated. He's being controlled.
He worked, obviously, at Blackwater during CIA ops after he got out of the SEALs.
He has a pretty non-existent SEAL career, Sean Ryan.
It wasn't very long or glorious or bad.
He didn't do a lot of things wrong.
But he went and worked for Blackwater and did a lot of things there.
And then, by his own admission with Megyn Kelly, became an international drug trafficker.
And now it's Sean Jesus.
So that's his... The new model you're going to see is the repentant sinner model.
That all these guys that are going to be outed as being war criminals or doing things to cover up crimes are going to come out as faithful followers of Jesus Christ, which I am.
And if they are truly, then God bless them.
I hope they find foundation. But I also believe that there's a spin doctor behind all of this.
It's weird how they all have found Christ.
At the time when everything's falling down around them.
And I believe there's enough sympathy within people to say, you've got to do all this stuff in the name of our country, and we shouldn't hold you accountable for it, and we're suffering, and we admitted your faults, so we forgive you.
And I think that's the model. And then finally, the last part of this puzzle is going to be the Navy and Tim Szymanski, who is the guy that I believe is responsible for all of the cover-ups, And crimes oversight for the last 20 years, that he is overseeing a CTE program amongst, maybe he'll find out who has, I don't know how to put the CTE, but it's the brain damage that mostly is associated with athletes.
So they're showing now that, or at least according to this study, that maybe feel they're getting CTE. So there's going to be the repentance center that, yes, I did bad things, but I'm so sorry.
I don't know why I was told to do it.
I was willing to do it. I found Jesus, and he forgives me.
So that's one direction.
And the ones that don't get that are going to go with the brain damage.
And I don't know. My brain is so messed up that I couldn't function.
Oh, and that's why the scenario that Nick described with the tile room and the chair with the drain is what they've, you know, commonly referred to as a come-to-Jesus meeting.
When you get read into top-secret programs or you're doing something in that regard, they'll have that meeting and say, look, or compartmentalize, high compartmentalize stuff.
Yeah. All right, well, Matt Kubler, thank you so much for joining us today.
We'll hopefully have you on sometime in the future to keep this conversation going, but it was a pleasure having you on.
Thank you. I appreciate it, guys.
God bless.
Thanks again, Matt. God bless you.
All right, we'll be back after the break.
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970-800-3693 When I was broken at the bottom I found You're my healer
and redeemer, Jesus, that's who you are You brought me blessings out of a tragedy You turned my old
song into a symphony And with your spirit living inside of me I'm not afraid of
the dark You brought me blessings out of a tragedy You turned my old
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I'm a new creation Well it wasn't until I stumbled and made my mistakes Then I
could know in my soul how amazing was grace Welcome back to Usformed Talk Radio
I'm your host, Craig James.
Our special guest co-host, Nick Noen.
Wow, Nick, that was an amazing guest we just had on.
Matt Kubler. Was it Kubler or Kubler?
I don't know, but he was amazing.
Kubler. Kubler. Yeah, he was amazing.
That was really powerful information, right?
Yeah, he has every one of his ducks in a row, and that's what I love about him, and he's relentless, man.
Relentless. We've got to turn him loose.
You can tell that he was a police investigator for that long, as long as he said, 30 years, I think.
You can tell he's investigated a lot of things.
And the way he talked about his interview with Rob O'Neill was like, he's like, I got him to say all the things I needed him to say.
And I thought, that's exactly the mindset of, you know, I know guys who are, you know, homicide detectives, that kind of thing.
And that's how they have to think, because you're trying to get to an end, right?
You're trying to basically get to a conclusion that reveals truth.
So, it was great having him on.
So, Nick, real quick.
Everybody out there, yes, we are going to be live on Friday at the Trump rally here in Aurora, Colorado.
That's going to be probably the show will start around 12 o'clock.
The live show in the venue should start around 12.
The rally itself should start around 1 o'clock.
And we'll just see how that all pans out.
We'll give you more information on that tomorrow.
It'll be me... Nick Noe and Jay Deplorable all down there reporting live from the event.
But Nick, final words for the audience.
Tell them how they can get that book when it comes out because I already have people texting in that they want it.
Really? Well, Greg, it's going to be available on Friday and we're going to provide links and everything.
Perhaps you'll have to go to...
Well, maybe we could just do a tiny URL. We can make one of those and then mention it over the air.
We'll have to do it that way probably for Friday.
Okay. We'll figure something out.
But final thoughts for the audience?
Nothing can stop what is coming.
Nothing. I think clear and concise.
I agree 100%.
You know, I picked out a particular verse for today that I think speaks to exactly what we're doing here.
And this is in Matthew chapter 10.
And I want to read these verses.
It's 26 through 30, and tell me, Nick, if this speaks to everything that we spoke to today.
It says, Therefore, don't be afraid of them, since there is nothing covered that won't be uncovered and nothing hidden that won't be made known.
What I tell you in the dark, speak in the light.
What you hear in a whisper, proclaim on the housetops.
Don't fear those who kill the body but are not able to kill the soul.
Rather, fear him who is able to destroy both body and soul in hell.
Aren't two sparrows sold for a penny, yet not one of them falls to the ground without your father's consent?
But even the hairs on your head have all been counted.
So don't be afraid, therefore.
You are worth more than many sparrows.
And that's a verse that I think speaks to the courage it takes to stand up against these evil forces that exist in this world.
But we have to remember that We shouldn't be afraid of the government or these evil entities that can kill our body.
Like it says here, we should fear the one who is able to kill our body and our soul, and that is God.
And how do we put ourselves right with God?
Well, we go to His Son, our Lord Jesus, and we let that relationship bring us to God and fill us with the Holy Spirit.
And my encouragement to all of you out there is just don't be afraid.
These forces seem insurmountable.
They seem like they have the power to do such evil, but God will always take what they purpose for evil and turn it for good if we put our faith in Him.
So, that's where I'm going to leave it.
I want to thank Nick.
Hello, everybody in Northern Colorado.
You're all looking good.
I knew you would. And we'll be back tomorrow.
Sorry about that. Same time, same place, God willing.
Until then, I'm your host, Craig James.
This is Just Informed Talk Radio.
Godspeed and God bless each and every one of you patriots.
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