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March 15, 2023 - Just Informed Talk - Craig James
01:26:47
Trump vs. DeSantis, BIOWEAPONS, COVID Lab Leak, QANON, & MORE ft. AN0MALY | JustInformed Talk
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Welcome to another episode of Just Informed Talk.
Today, I'm joined by a very special guest.
He's a musical artist, a news commentator, and a man of many talents.
But you guys probably know him as Anomaly.
And he's joining us here today to talk about some very important issues happening in our culture.
And we're also going to talk about some of his new music.
And we're going to try to connect that and make a really interesting show for you guys today.
But with that being said, I want to say thank you to Anomaly for joining us.
Welcome to the show.
Hey, thanks for having me and great meeting you last year in person.
That was fun.
Yeah, that was a really good time.
We met out in Palm Springs at an event out there in the desert.
And we had some good times and we got to hang out.
We got to talk and we kind of left it at the show saying, you know, I want to get you on the show and have a conversation sometime.
And finally, we got some time to put it together.
So I think we have a very interesting show for you guys watching in the audience right now coming up now.
You know, watching you over the years, I gotta be honest, your work has been quite inspirational to me.
I've, you know, looked at it over the last year, five years or so, I think, is how long I've been kind of following you.
And I've always been inspired, especially by your music.
You know, you have these commentary videos you do on YouTube, and everyone should go check out your channel.
I'll leave a link to it below.
But The music, I think, is what really grabs the culture, and I think you know how to capitalize on that, and you're incredibly talented as well.
So, with that being said, you've put out a few, whatever they call it these days, the bangers, as the kids would call it.
I want to talk about some of your songs and kind of connect it to real world issues and what your thoughts are and how that came to be in the music.
So the first song that I'm going to play a clip of here in a second is Thought Leader.
This is a newer release from you, and it is just an incredible song, but it's incredibly poignant in certain ways where you call out the fact that there's one verse in the song where you talk about there's two.
There's a right and a left paradigm, and then there's two wings on the same eagle.
You know what I mean?
It's like two sides of the same coin, I think, is what you were trying to get at.
And with that, watch this clip real quick, and then we're going to talk about it.
There's levels to it.
I'm a better student.
I want retribution for the revolution.
This is God talk, not devil music.
I'ma shine the light, make a better movement.
It's one nation under Zionism.
When you tell the truth, they gon' cry the victim.
Every politician lobby like they take a dollar over making honest living.
Right wing full of gatekeepers.
Left wing full of fake speakers.
Two wings of the same bird and I ain't playing with fake eagles.
I ain't got no hate in my heart.
Really here, just play my part.
I'm sick of all these double standards and hypocrites.
I'm different like...
This is the realest I hope.
This is the realest I hope.
Okay, so that was the clip.
And the first question I have for you is, you know, you talk about the right and the left and how they're kind of two sides of the same coin.
How did that how does how does that evolution come for you?
You know, being somebody who I know has been a little bit more conservative lately, but now you're starting to call out the conservative side just as much.
And I think you're making good points.
What's your take on that?
I feel like I've kind of come full circle because I think when I was younger, like 18, 19, I was into quote-unquote conspiracy theories, also known as not being stupid and realizing I was being lied to, trying to put the pieces together.
And I always kind of, when I dove into YouTube, back when the conspiracy theories were good there, before they were censoring, they're talking about Freemasons, Rothschilds, bankers, you know?
So I started actually from this, like both parties are corrupt, but I always thought the Republican Party was worse.
Maybe that was because of George Bush.
And that's the era I grew up in seeing what he was doing.
And then, you know, I kind of had a full circle, I think 2016 with Bernie and then with Trump, just kind of wanting to believe that there was going to be an outsider to some extent.
And then I think I almost ended up where I started, which is like, okay, I think that that control system that I knew about when I was younger is even more powerful than I wanted to give it credit for.
So I think, you know, I forget exactly what I say in that verse, something about one nation under Zionism, when you tell the truth, they're going to cry the victim.
Every politician lobbied like they take a dollar over making honest living.
Right wing full of gatekeepers, left wing full of fake speakers, two wings of the same bird.
And I ain't playing with fake eagles.
You know, that's just kind of...
Just kind of seeing certain patterns that, you know, even some of my favorite politicians seem to kind of cave to.
And yeah, that was the inspiration for that.
Just one of those things like everyone's like, don't say that.
You know, I actually, they wrote an article saying I was like an anti-Semitic rapper and like some left winger from L.A. And I'm like, that's not true.
I didn't even say anything negative or, you know, it's like saying big pharma lobbies politicians.
Am I anti-pharma or am I just saying, you know, what happens?
Yeah, I think observing the truth is really dangerous in today's culture for certain individuals because you're always going to be painted as one way or the other.
And the reason I like your work specifically, especially beyond the music, what you do with your commentary and analysis, is that you will dive into an issue and you will go into the specific details of something.
You won't let them paint you with that broad brush, you know, the anti-Semite, the anti-whatever it is, you know, the racist, the bigot, blah, blah, blah.
They always want to put those labels on people so that they can dismiss what they say and what they are saying, what facts and statistics and things they like to point to.
And I found that very interesting.
So tell me more about, you know, lately you've been catching a lot of heat on social media.
I've caught a little heat for my audience as well because I'm not...
I'm a fan of the idealization of Trump.
I don't want to idolize the man.
I, as a Christian, and I know you're a Christian as well, I believe there's only one man who was also God, and that is the Messiah, Jesus Christ.
So beyond that...
You have this culture, right?
This cult of personality which the left had adopted.
And now it's starting to rub off into the right and the conservative movement with Trump and what he's done.
So I guess the first question I would have in this is, you know, there's this Trump versus DeSantis, which you've called on social media a false paradigm.
Explain what you mean when you say that there's a false paradigm being created between Trump and DeSantis as if they are, you know, separate entities and not related.
What do you think of that?
So I say it's a false paradigm because I think at the bottom of it, I think the same people are like semi-controlling them.
I think they both have their pros and cons and things that they'll do and won't do.
But I think people are almost painting it as if like Trump is the outsider, the anti-establishment, and DeSantis is the one who sold out.
Here's the part that's really confusing me because I understand.
I'm not one of those people that like go psycho at people if you want to vote for one or the other.
I see the pros and the cons to both of them, from foreign policy to big pharma.
But I have to say this.
You know, it's starting to kind of weird me out where, say, like DeSantis does an interview with Jeb Bush behind him or something, you know, and like Jeb Bush and him seem like they're friends.
And, you know, there's donors that are backing DeSantis.
I'm all for calling that out, right?
I don't think...
I don't think politicians should just be babied.
If they're going to take hundreds of millions of dollars of donor money, they're probably going to do something for that.
So I'm all fine with people calling DeSantis out.
But I feel like there's delusion where if Trump goes on stage with Lindsey Graham and says he's a friend of mine, he's closer to Lindsey Graham than he's ever been.
Why don't people want to call that out?
I just don't understand the whole dynamic of, like, you know, when Trump ran for office, he said he wouldn't take donor money.
He ended up taking Sheldon Adelson donor money.
He took hundreds of millions of dollars from corporations.
He took money from Pfizer.
He hired pharmacy lobbyists.
He hired Mitch McConnell's wife.
He endorsed Mitt Romney.
He said nice things about Paul Ryan when he left.
He hired people like John Bolton, Pompeo.
You look at his cabinet.
It's like, you know...
I'm just saying, I want to see the base kind of challenge DeSantis and Trump, but I think Trump's kind of painting this false paradigm where it's like, I'm the good guy, he's the bad guy, I would never sell out.
It's not like Trump's an outsider anymore.
He had four years in the White House, and for Pete Buttigieg's Secretary of Transportation, Trump actually hired Mitch McConnell's wife, who's obviously corrupt.
So I'm not saying you have to hate Trump or you have to love DeSantis, and people are trying to paint it that way.
That's the false paradigm.
If you're saying that about Trump, you must obsess over DeSantis.
I have a preference of who I'd vote for if the election were tomorrow, but really what I want people to do is if you're going to go crazy over Marjorie Taylor Greene backing Kevin McCarthy— But then Donald Trump does the same thing and you act like it didn't happen.
I feel like people are acting very emotional, very childish, and it's almost like a fake fight at this point.
It's like when the Democrats say Russia collusion.
We just waste three years.
It's like Trump didn't collude with Russia.
And they're just saying that to waste our time.
To me, Trump, I don't know if he's doing it as a power grab, or I understand there's going to be a primary, but I feel like he's painting this false paradigm of now, all of a sudden, if you have questions about him, you must love DeSantis.
And if you like DeSantis, then you're corrupt, as if Trump doesn't hang out with neocons, warmongers, and lobbyists of sorts.
He absolutely did, and...
You know, what I'm concerned about as an American, I guess, is if both sides aren't challenged, I just think the same cycle is going to repeat.
So I'm not telling people to hate on him.
I'm not saying to dig into Trump's personal life.
The left has done that enough and it's obnoxious.
I'm just saying, you know, stand by your morals, stand by your values, and challenge him the same way you challenged DeSantis.
Don't give him a pass for doing the same things DeSantis is doing.
That's it.
I couldn't agree more.
I've said this on my channel a few times now.
At least a half dozen times.
I've made it very clear that my opinion is If you don't challenge your leadership, then expecting it to change is an exercise in futility or insanity or whatever you want to call it.
You have to challenge these ideas that you disagree with.
We both seem to disagree on Operation Warp Speed and the vaccine and it being pushed by Trump.
And we're going to talk about that in a second because you did a very incredible song on it that I'd like to reference before we get into that conversation.
But when you get into the concept of exactly what you're saying, it's 100% true that Trump is...
I'm a part of this establishment now, and he has made some very bad decisions in the past.
Now, if we don't challenge him on those decisions, we can't have an expectation for him to change.
He's going to think he can get away with it because he can.
And I do agree with you in that regard that you have pointed out.
And I think that there's an idea that you've mentioned in your tweets that I've read about and you've talked about in your analysis where Trump has created this kind of almost victim mentality complex on the right now.
This was a developing, a complex that we saw emerge, I guess, more overly with the leftists where they created this victim mindset where it was, I'm the victim, woe is me, feel bad for me, and then that eventually evolves into the cry bullies who are punching you in the face as they're crying.
And Now it's like Trump, because he was persecuted for so many years in 2016 and going forward, that we had developed this natural defense mechanism where if anybody says anything bad about Trump, it's like you have to immediately jump into action to defend him.
And I think a lot of people are just fighting that impulse at this point.
Or they're not fighting it, I guess would be the better way to put it.
So what do you think about, because I wanted to get your thoughts on, do you think Trump's victim mentality that he's kind of given to the conservative movement, you know, especially given the 2016 or the 2020 election, which I agree, in my opinion, it was stolen.
In my opinion, there was enough evidence that there was fraud.
In my opinion, we're going to get into the whole lab leak theory and how that might be connected.
And we'll talk about that in this video a little bit later.
Yeah, I want to start by saying, you know, people, when I say one thing, they'll try to paint me as this.
But if you follow me from 2016 to 2019, I backed Trump a thousand times.
I defended him every time they lied about him.
I got, you know, honestly, hundreds of millions of views.
Convincing people that Trump was the better option and that he was being persecuted.
And honestly, I've gotten thousands of stories of people that were like, hey, you woke my parents up.
They used to watch CNN. Now they like Trump.
And, you know, I had his back.
I'm not one of these people that just sits and, you know, bashes him all the time.
And I'm not Joe Walsh, that, you know, phony Tea Party guy who's like a Democrat now.
That's not who I am.
With that being said, I think as a CEO or a quarterback of a sports team, you know, it's good to take accountability for certain things where I understand the persecution.
But I think, for instance, his cabinet, I look at a lot of the people he hired.
And when I talk to people just like on ground level about what's going on, it's always a victim thing.
It's not like, hey, maybe Trump next time should hire better people.
It's like, oh, it's not his fault.
Oh, well, he did this.
Oh, well, he got fooled by Fauci.
Well, if you're the quarterback and you get fooled by Fauci, is that not your responsibility to not get fooled by Fauci?
You understand?
So I think he's almost painting this thing where he's not responsible for anything he's ever done.
If he did a good thing, it's great, and I appreciate it.
But if he did something wrong, it's never his fault.
You know, he hires Mitch McConnell's wife.
It's not his fault.
He hires Christopher Wray.
It's not his fault.
He hires Bill Barr.
Bill Barr sucks.
It's not his fault.
Mike Pence didn't overturn the election.
Well, who put Mike Pence there?
Did he put himself there?
No, Donald Trump put Mike Pence there.
So if Mike Pence wasn't to be trusted, which I think he wasn't ever to be trusted, that's Donald Trump's fault.
You look at Trump's Surgeon General, his name is Jerome Adams.
He blocked me on Twitter because he's a loser and a liar.
But, you know, Jerome Adams, the Surgeon General, is Mike Pence's guy from Indiana.
Why did Trump hire him?
DeSantis, I'm not saying everything he does is good, but he hired Joseph Latipo for his Surgeon General, who was one of the guys on the front steps of Washington saying that lockdowns were bad.
Like, DeSantis picked an actual outsider for Surgeon General.
Trump doesn't pick anyone that's an outsider, it seems like.
And then Peter Navarro said that Fauci was lying during the lockdowns, and Trump actually told him to shut up and not criticize Fauci.
That's a bad idea.
So that's the victim mentality I'm talking about.
And even with the election, as a quarterback, it's like if you mess up And then the ref does something at the end.
Even I think a quarterback will say like, yeah, that happened, but here's what I could have done.
So for my thing is like mass mail-in ballots everybody knows about.
And like, how did that all come?
Well, because of the lockdown.
Well, who was in on 15 days to slow the spread?
Donald Trump.
Here's the crazy part too, and I'm not like a huge Brian Kemp fan, but Georgia tried to open up early against Trump's guidelines, you know, where he was trying to advise people to stay locked down.
And Georgia was one of the first ones to open like tattoos and spas.
And Trump came out, this was like two months after the lockdown, he said, hey, I disagree with Governor Kemp.
I don't think you should open up.
You know, he's like, I'll let you do it.
I'm not a tyrant, but I don't agree with you and I want to let you know I wish you'd stay locked down.
So is he also not partly responsible for the election when you were kind of in on how it got lopsided?
Because, you know, I'm one to believe that they use that as an excuse to really like, you know, I mean, mail-in ballots are always a thing, but not to this extent.
I think they mailed one to every single person in California and then locked you down and then told you to vote.
You know, I agree that the whole thing was like a setup, but I feel like he walked into it.
So that's what I'm talking about, where I got his back when he does the right thing and the Democrats lie about him.
But I'm kind of tired of his leadership of like nothing's ever his fault.
If a CEO hires 95% bad staffers, you think a CEO is going to blame someone else?
No, you're the top dog.
You're the quarterback.
You know, and that's for me as a voter and me as a person, I don't lie.
It's annoying at this point.
I'm like, I'm tired of making excuses where I'd love to see him be like, yeah, no, my cabinet sucked.
You know, next time I'm going to hire a great cabinet, then I would vote for him.
But if he can't even say that, you know, I don't understand why I'm asking for too much here.
So I agree with you, and we might have a slight point of, you know, debate here that's probably very healthy to be had because I have a few things, right, to comment on what you're saying.
I was kind of taking notes as you were speaking because I have a few things that I think maybe we should think about more closely.
First, Trump is a man who we know is a business minded individual.
And we know that in the business of politics, there are political calculations that you make.
And I think that Trump's realization is based on political calculations that he has to reach this middle independent voting base and that he can afford to ostracize people like you and me because the calculation is simple.
We know that there's no better option.
There's probably no way we would vote Democrat unless it was like a ticket with maybe Kennedy, Robert Kennedy or something.
Like, I don't know how that would work, but we might do that in that case.
But if it's him against Joe Biden, it's almost, I mean, literally a no-brainer.
I agree.
That's the first thing, is that it's a political calculation for him why he pushes the vaccine, why he takes these unpopular stances on things.
I disagree with him fervently on his stance on abortion.
He just made these ridiculous comments about how he thought the 2020 election was lost because abortion was pushed too hard.
Now, I know Lindsey Graham was trying to sabotage with the pushing of what he did right before the election.
I get all that, but For me, as a person who is pro-life in the most severe form you could be, I guess.
Like, I do believe it's murder.
I don't think that it's a political football.
I think it should be a hard stance you should take.
But he can afford to lose.
Not even lose.
He can afford to play to the middle more on that issue because, like I've said, if it's between him and Joe Biden, we know who we're picking.
Second thing is that when it talks about I guess we'll get into it here right after this point because it's kind of leading into the next one.
You know, when it comes to the vaccine and it comes to Trump and his calculations with who he hires in the deep state and all that stuff, first off, we know he was a newbie, so we give him a little bit of a pass for the first two years maybe.
And then once he had his feet beneath him, then we kind of like, well, what are you doing?
And then as it went into the run up to 2020, then we're, you know, where you're making those points about who he's hiring, why he's bringing in all these deep staters while he's calling them out, he's putting them in his cabinet.
Nothing makes sense.
And except to say that if the CIA and the intelligence services are as nefarious as we may think they may be, right?
And they had two to four years to do an entire work down of your personality, your characteristics, your character flaws, how to manipulate you.
Trump, we know, is a germaphobe.
We know he has that in his, you know, we talked, it was like very widely reported on up to that point.
So playing on that, I mean, that's how they could have If they were manipulating him, if they were trying to deceive him, they could have played on his weaknesses.
I mean, when they release a pandemic, they probably knew that that was going to hit certain nerves, and they knew how to play that against him and against himself to say, well, you need to make this decision, sir, because it's the health decision that you would make.
I don't know.
I don't want to get into an apologist position on Trump for that because I think he's, like you said, accountability.
The quarterback CEO, in my opinion, and it sounds like in your opinion, integrity matters.
Integrity, as they say.
But integrity matters, and I think in Trump's case...
It does show a little bit of a lack of integrity that he does keep deflecting.
And even though he's the victim in a lot of ways of this malicious assault by the deep state, which I, and trust me, you talk about somebody who's been a Trump apologist for, I spent four years during his entire time in office.
I basically defended him to the wherever and back.
I've gone through the hell for that man because I knew that he was being wrongfully accused and he's being wrongfully persecuted.
So I guess that kind of ties into this next question I have, because let's take a second, though.
Yes, yes, yes.
Go ahead.
Yeah, just real quick to the three things, really quick.
So it's like, with the pro-life thing, I agree with you, and with the Lindsey Graham thing, I agree with you.
So why, if Lindsey Graham sabotaged him during the election, why would he be the first person on the stage?
He could put anybody on stage, right?
You know, Trump, like, he doesn't need Lindsey Graham.
Lindsey Graham needs Trump more than Trump needs Lindsey Graham.
So why is he showcasing him and saying they're friends?
If that's who sabotaged him, is that as a voter, am I supposed to feel good about the person who potentially sabotaged his election and really helped start the war in Ukraine?
You know that Trump's now closer to him than ever and giving him a platform.
With the vaccine thing, I understand pushing it or funding it, but nobody's asking Trump to say it saved 100 million lives.
That's a lie that no one believes.
No one's asking him to say it's the greatest human achievement.
Even Bill Gates admits that there's three problems with the vaccine.
So now Trump is more of a salesman, in my view, than Bill Gates.
Even Bill Gates will be like, yeah, there's three things that could have been better.
Trump's selling it like it's a MyPillow.
It's the greatest thing ever.
I don't think that's a popular stance, and I don't think he needs to do that to get Democrats.
And with the third thing, like you were saying, with certain hires and him getting tricked or fooled, it's like a weakness where he kind of got to...
That's the sort of thing where it's okay that that happens, but voters are going to look, did you learn your lesson?
You know what I'm saying?
Because everybody goes through a game that they play bad.
That's totally understandable.
But...
But are there signs that he really learned from that?
Or are there signs that he just didn't?
And that's kind of, I think, perception.
Because some people think, yeah, he learned.
He'll do it better.
Me?
I'm not so sure.
But I see both sides of it, for sure.
Yeah, I think it's interesting.
You don't hear a lot of Trump saying it, but you hear a lot of Trump's kind of people saying that.
Like, oh, he's going to do better this time.
He knows the swamp now.
I heard, like, Kash Patel.
I've heard Dan Scavino, I think, even talk about it briefly.
I've heard others kind of mention it in passing, saying, like, well, you know, he had a lot of bad people before, but now he knows who the bad people are, so he's not going to do that again.
And then, just really quick, you know, with the Lindsey Graham thing, If you're going to go, and I don't like to do this, the whole 40 chess, so it's all like, you know, whatever.
Keep your enemies close.
I don't know.
That's what I would say to that.
But let's get into the next topic because it is what you were commenting on very briefly there about the vaccine and the bioweapon.
And that talks about your song called Bioweapon, which I want to play for the audience really quick.
Why don't you guys watch a clip from his song, Bioweapon?
They jealous because I'm effective enough.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Now we quarantine like Julian inside the embassy.
Viruses filled in my environment.
Communism coming.
I ain't talking about the Cooper now the state is shutting down and you thinking about your future I'm not making music Okay, so that is a song that I thought was incredible.
And this was, you know, talk about timing and when this all came out.
I mean, you were on Twitter, you know, the receipts are there.
We've seen your stance from the beginning.
You were one of the sound voices, I think, in the beginning.
I don't know if it was distrust of the big pharma companies, which I don't think pharma is all bad, actually, because there are medicines they create and produce that save lives every day.
I'm not one of those people who throw the baby out with the bathwater.
I think it's being run by people who are motivated by profit, which is obviously bad when it comes to health, but that profit they use to do research and make medicines that some people use to live every day.
And that's debatable.
So we can have that debate, I think, in a different realm.
But as far as this virus goes, what are your thoughts about the bioweapon?
And I want to start with what you were talking about earlier about Trump and Robert F. Kennedy Jr. points out in an interview, and I saw this over on your Twitter page, so I know you're familiar with this.
He talked about how Trump appointed, and you referenced this earlier, he appointed two Pfizer lobbyists after they donated a million dollars, and they were the ones who removed RFK from the Vaccine Safety Board.
So what are your thoughts on that whole situation when it comes to Trump and the vaccine and Operation Warp Speed, but specifically with the pharmaceutical companies and their influence over him?
Yeah, well, I'll try to go with evidence and also just say that I think Big Pharma has, like, swallowed up the country.
You know, I don't think it's, like, just Trump, obviously, and just Republicans.
Obviously, the Democrats seem like they're more in on it with the mandates.
But if you look at Big Pharma, like, every television ad is a Big Pharma ad.
And I agree they have good medications.
But what's crazy and kind of...
I don't like to buy into fear, but it is kind of scary to me that when I talk to my mom and I talk to my grandma, like cancer used to be super rare.
Now, it's not so rare.
And you watch these pharmacy commercials that are 90% of the TV ads, and they're saying it's a side effect in all these pills.
You know what I'm saying?
Sometimes the side effect is worse than what they're trying to cure you for.
So to me, that tells me where these diseases might be coming from besides all the other things.
They've swallowed up Monsanto and Bayer.
I think this happened during Trump's administration and the Justice Department greenlighted it.
They merged.
So you have Bayer, one of the biggest drug companies out of Nazi Germany, for those who care.
And, you know, Monsanto, which almost sounds like Monster, properly so, Merging the foods and the drugs.
So big pharma is a huge, huge problem.
Now you get to Donald Trump, because one of the theories is that Trump just doesn't know.
Like, he's a boomer, he just doesn't know about vaccines, and he's, you know, that's kind of his thing.
I think evidence proves otherwise, because can I say whatever here?
Like, it's going on, what, like, rumble and bit shoot?
I don't want to get it censored, but can I say anything?
I've already been canceled.
so you can say whatever the hell okay because i know like vaccines and autism is something that they don't allow on the major platforms and you know trump was tweeting about that he was like i'm not anti-vax but i see some sort of connection there like before he was in office he tweeted about vaccines and autism and uh you know it got him in a lot of trouble because even back then big pharma was swallowing stuff up so trump isn't clueless of the pharma industry and side effects he He's not.
He called RFK, RFK told this story many times, before he got into the White House after he won, because Trump was like, you know what, I want to look into vaccines.
I don't know what's going on, but we need to put a safety council together to see what's going on.
And Trump was going to work with Robert F. Kennedy Jr. on a vaccine safety commission.
The stories told by RFK that Trump, after the inauguration, Trump actually took 100 million plus dollars from corporations, more than Obama and more than Biden.
And one of them was from Pfizer, a million dollar donation.
After that, he hired for HHS, which is over Fauci.
HHS is actually the one who declares the emergency for COVID.
He put Alex Azar there, who was a Eli Lilly lobbyist slash executive, big pharma guy.
And then he put Scott Gottlieb at the FDA, who after he left FDA, he went to Pfizer.
You know, it was a big pharma guy from the jump.
So it seems to me like Trump kind of caved like other politicians to pharma.
And here's where it gets interesting.
You know, it's not to say it's all his fault.
And it's not to say that Hillary would have been better.
Obviously, she would have been a nightmare on every front.
But it's just like, if you give big pharma that power, and you give that industry just the open gates to the government, bad things are going to happen, in my opinion.
In 2018, this is another really interesting thing.
Everybody can look it up.
In 2018, Bill Gates came out to the press and said, I just met with Trump and I told him about a universal flu vaccine, this idea of like a universal influenza vaccine.
And Bill Gates said that Trump even offered him a position in the White House that he declined.
Is that true?
I have no idea because no journalist has ever asked Trump, but I wish they would just to know.
In 2019, before the lockdown, Trump actually passed an executive order that matched exactly what Bill Gates said.
It was like a universal flu vaccine executive order that was going to modernize influenza vaccines and change vaccines forever.
And it brought together the DOD, the FDA. I mean, you name a government agency, Department of Homeland Security, it brought everyone together over vaccines.
This was like five months before the lockdown.
I thought that was interesting.
And then when it comes...
Obviously, Operation War Speed, it's just a socialist vaccine scheme.
It's not capitalism.
It's the government buys it.
The government funds it.
It's all government pharma corruption.
You know, so that's just what it is.
And I think my solution is I voted for Trump in 2020 because I could give you a thousand reasons.
But one of my main reasons was I knew Biden was going to mandate the vaccine.
And I knew Trump wouldn't, even though he sells it.
I knew Trump wasn't going to mandate it, so I still think it's a great vote.
I mean, Biden is garbage on every level, but Biden's federal mandate is still there for incoming travelers.
You still can't come to the U.S. without a vaccine for people who aren't citizens, which is insane.
But that's kind of what's going on.
So I think, in general, not challenging that.
Is a mistake.
And I think with DeSantis, even though I don't fully trust him, I do see the donors swarming him.
It seems like he's a little bit more keen to turning around, like a U-turn.
You know, he was selling the vaccine, then he kind of turned around.
And he hired Joseph Latipo, who was on the front steps with Stella Emanuel and Simone Gold.
Like, that's who DeSantis put as the Surgeon General, a real doctor that was fighting pharma.
I just want to see.
It's not like, oh, I love DeSantis and I hate Trump.
It's more like, Trump, who are you going to put in Surgeon General next time?
Who are you going to put at HHS? Who are you going to put at FDA? Because who you put there matters.
You know, you mentioned Kash Patel.
In my view, that's one of the only good people he put in a position.
You know, Kash Patel.
Some people say Ben Carson.
Besides that, you look at his cabinet.
It's like not a lot of winners there.
So I don't think it's unreasonable to ask him this stuff.
And it's not to fully blame him, but I think when you give big pharma too much power, bad things are going to happen.
And they're doing too much.
Kids are on too many pills.
Mandates are insane.
Pfizer just made a cash cow off Operation Warp Speed.
It's like they got to chill out because our country is now fat, addicted to pills, vaxxed up.
And for the health of America, Our food is a disaster compared to even Europe and stuff.
In my view, metaphorically and pretty much literally, I think we're being poisoned.
They make some good products.
I'm grateful for modern medication, but it's gone too far.
I mean, if you look around yourself, I mean, I wake up every day sometimes, especially out here in California, in Central California where I'm at, you look at the sky, they're poisoning the air with these chemtrails.
You look at the water, you know, you know it's got, I have to, you know, I have to RO filter everything I drank and then re-mineralize it and do all this crazy stuff just to have water that's drinkable.
You know, like you said, the food is practically poison.
You talk about Monsanto, you talk about glyphosate, you talk about The drugs, the zombie-like, you know, status that most of these people live in with the Xanax and the pills that they are popping, the fentanyl and the opioids.
And then you look at everything.
I mean, everything you said is true.
There's nobody, I think, that can argue in good faith against everything that you just pointed out.
And when I say that, I don't like to throw the baby out to bathwater with big pharmas because, you know, if we got rid of it tomorrow...
It would have a detrimental effect on a lot of people's lives.
But they take advantage of that, which is why it's even more evil, because they know people depend on them.
They know that when you get cancer, you're probably going to go bankrupt, and they're probably going to take the majority of what wealth you've amassed for your whole life.
And so there is a financial incentive for everything.
Why they keep us fat, dumb, and basically uninformed, or whatever you want to call it, and unwilling to move.
So that is...
You know, truthfully speaking, everything you pointed out, all the appointments, everything you talked about with Ron DeSantis, I think was true.
You know, we're smuggling.
We're trying to smuggle now.
What is it?
Novak Jovic over in a boat into Florida so he can play in a tournament because of the Vax mandate you were referencing.
You know, and DeSantis, in my opinion, I've said this on my show several times, and I said this way back before.
I was saying this when it was wildly unpopular.
Before Trump started attacking him, I said, DeSantis to me looks like George Bush did, W. Bush, when he was in Texas, and they were grooming him to be the president, and he was just being this guy's guy, man's man, drinking beers out on his ranch, and just, he was like Governor Abbott, and then all of a sudden they slip him in, and 9-11, the Patriot Act, Iraq, Afghanistan, and it's like, everything's just gone.
And so that's what I feel like would happen with DeSantis, because he's doing everything right.
And another thing I don't like about DeSantis is that when he came on the scene, like when Trump did the endorsement, did you know that he did...
I mean, did you ever notice that the mannerisms, he did the hands like Trump, and he started talking like Trump, and he did all the things like Trump, and he still does to this day.
He impersonates him and his mannerisms and all that stuff.
So that's my opinion, is that...
DeSantis is the true Trojan horse that they are trying to sneak in because the deep state needs another.
I mean, he's a Harvard-educated kind of a lawyer.
It's like these are not the people who are going to be represented.
Now, Trump, as imperfect as he is, I do think represented a true threat to the establishment.
Otherwise, they wouldn't have done what they did to him.
And they wouldn't be trying to throw him in jail and ban him from the Capitol and do all this stuff if he wasn't still a threat.
Now, Whether he realizes and is working with people who are motivating him or influencing him to do things that are antithetical to what the base that elected him wants is a whole other debate against what we can talk about and what he did, the good things he did do.
And that kind of goes to the next question I have, is the idea that Who do you think is more to blame?
I mean, I know this is kind of a generic question, and it's kind of a, who do you think is more to blame for the COVID tyranny?
Do you think it's Trump, who, you know, was president when the lockdowns happened?
Was president when the virus spread?
Was president when all this happened?
Or is it Biden who's continued it?
What's your opinion on that?
I mean, that's a tough question, but I would say the COVID tyranny came in 2020.
But I mean, I wouldn't be like, it's Trump's fault.
It's a systemic thing.
I just think that really showed that, you know, say, why do you vote Republican?
For a million reasons, but one would be to prevent from like a psychotic communist insane lockdown.
You know what I'm saying?
But...
Voting for Trump didn't prevent that.
I'm not saying it's his fault, but it's like a sobering reality.
And I think that's why so many people are coming up with theories of like, oh, it must be to arrest the pedophiles and we're locking down Europe to go after the Vatican.
It's like a fun theory to tell yourself because it's sad when you're like, damn, this guy couldn't even stop the big pharma lockdown.
He couldn't stop.
He couldn't stop this stuff.
So I would say they're both responsible to, in some extent, Biden's responsible for the mandates.
Biden's responsible for printing too much money on top of the money.
But I mean, you know, Biden wasn't there when it first started.
I think McConnell, Pelosi, Trump, big pharma, you know, the media, obviously, obviously, In some cases, both parties, you know, I said Mitch McConnell, whatever the other guy's name is.
That is not, and people might say that's like a political answer.
I think that's probably the most honest answer a person can give because it's so true.
There is on both sides.
For my history, you don't know, I had a YouTube channel.
I don't know if you know specifically about my channel and everything that happened.
You know, it's a long story, but I'll summarize it very quickly.
I had a YouTube channel.
I had about 300,000 subscribers.
I started in 2017.
And by 2020, I was, you know, really big, 60 million views, 100,000 a video.
It was like, you know, a big thing.
And I was covering all the QAnon stuff.
And I was one of the accounts on October 15, 2020 that got, you know, disappeared and, you know, thrown into the digital gulag, as it were, where I lost YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, Patreon.
I mean, my whole career was basically, it was like Thanos-ed overnight.
And, uh, what I know for a fact is that as a person who was deeply in the whole trust the plan kind of mentality, um, I kind of snapped out of it because I've, I've adopted the new philosophy, which I think is more appropriate, more appropriate as the trust, but verify.
And I think I did fall victim to the, the ID, the idolization of Trump, not necessarily the, but the cult of Trump, uh, More overly, where I was in that, you know, kind of, well, everything he does is for DHS. And we can't know.
And it's like, who knows?
You know, this is all part of a secret plan that we can't know.
But now I've come to realize that, regardless of whether that's happening or not, that I have to be, you know, on top of what I can control and what I can see and verify.
Outside of that, that's all speculation.
That's all conjecture.
That's not going to help anyone.
And it's not going to help people if we just keep presuming things are happening that we can't know.
Now, I have sources in military intelligence.
I have sources from all over that have told me things.
And I used to have people that would tell me, you know, and these are like high ranking, you know, people who would know, let's just say.
And they would tell me, look, it's all happening behind the scenes.
You know, you just got to trust this plan.
It's all going to happen.
It's all going to come out.
And maybe this is because there's still people that believe in this continuity of government idea and they believe in the devolution concept, which I don't know if you're familiar with that.
Or if you have any thoughts on it, because that wasn't really in the questions, but I just thought, wow, that's an interesting question, and that will lead us perfectly to the next topic.
If you want to give your comments and thoughts on the QAnon operation going into the continuity of government, going into the devolution, going into whatever you want to pick out of that and talk about, I'd love to hear your opinion on it.
Yeah, well, I'll say when it first came out, like the Q stuff, like I was early, I'm not going to say the earliest, but I have friends that'd be like, yo, check this out, check this out.
And I'd done interviews or maybe debates rather with like Jordan Sather and Praying Medic since 2018 because I'm a reasonable person.
I didn't look at QAnon early on and just say like, oh, it's all bad.
It's like, yeah, I saw they're posting research links.
They're speaking in codes.
They're posting videos.
You know, for a lot of people, it was education.
It was like a research team.
And I saw nothing wrong with that.
But then, even when I talked to—there's actually a pretty epic clip from maybe 2018.
I did a debate with Praying Medic, and I was like, I see a lot of the things you're seeing, but I was like, but it sounds like you're saying, like, martial law would be a good thing because you think then Trump would arrest people.
And for decades, people have always said martial law would be bad because— It's big government kind of like, you know, taking over, the federal government taking over.
And he was like, yeah, you know, I mean, I don't know the exact words, but, you know, it was almost like a pretense to the lockdown of me being like, if this happened, that's actually bad.
And he was like, no, it's good.
So when the lockdown happened, you know, I was opposing it.
And a lot of the biggest opposition of me was like, Q people saying, no, the lockdown is good.
Get out of the way.
This is the moment we've been waiting for.
You know, and then two months later, I think people figured it out like, oh, this wasn't what we wanted.
This is bad.
And it's sabotaging Trump.
So, you know, I think it's what you really made of it.
But I, you know, at the end of the day, I understand people want to have hope.
I have hope for America.
I'm not a pessimist.
I'm not like, oh, it's over.
People think I'm a pessimist because I don't.
Believe in the political system so much.
But to me, that means people have almost created a religion around a politician or a religion around something where if I don't believe that Donald Trump is going to save everything, it doesn't mean I have no joy.
It doesn't mean I have no hope.
To me, I just think I'm not a side character in this game of America.
You know, I think God gave you Like your voice, when the cameras are off, you're you.
You're not Trump.
You're not me.
And that's the beautiful thing if everybody plays a part.
And I believe playing our part is realizing when these entities are kind of swallowing up people we like.
I look at a politician at this point like a stripper or a car salesman or a realtor.
I'm not saying they're bad people, but the stripper doesn't always necessarily love you.
They want the money.
The car salesman doesn't always love you.
They're finessing a really tough situation and basically going behind doors and kind of coming out and basically finessing both sides of the coin.
Some people think that just having faith in Trump will save the world.
To me, I think...
Basically treating him like other politicians and being like, yeah, that's not good.
To me, that's how you stop it.
And I just want to use an example real quick.
You know, George Bush fooled everybody, like you were mentioning with DeSantis, who I think you're right.
I think he talks like a politician.
I think he should be scrutinized.
And people should not worship DeSantis.
But George Bush fooled people by saying, we got to go fight the Muslims and the terrorists.
And if you don't, you're a terrorist.
If you don't want to go to Iraq, you're a bad person.
You're with them.
And they use things like the Patriot Act.
You're a patriot if you want to spy on American citizens.
I always was against the Patriot Act since a kid because I saw through that, luckily.
I see similar things with Trump.
Operation Warp Speed, Freedom Cities, they're branding things that...
A federal government city?
That sounds nightmarish to me because eventually a Democrat is going to have control of that city.
So it's like, you know, it almost feels like whether Trump knows it or not or whatever his role is, that they're basically using people's love of his personality and character and words to basically turn a blind eye to the actions.
And I've already gone through this too much.
So, you know, I have hope, I have faith, but I do think that, you know, God put everybody in a position to really like Not be a follower.
You know, you don't have to follow George Bush to Iraq and you don't have to, you know, listen to what Obama says or Trump.
I don't see it that way.
Wow, I mean, that's fascinating.
And I agree with you on a lot of different points you made there.
I mean, specifically talking about how, you know, you look at the cult of Trump, you don't have to follow him.
I made the mistake, and I've been open about it, and I've talked about it on my show about how I made the mistake of going all in on this cult of Trump.
And, you know, it is like George Bush, fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice.
Point is, I'm not going to get fooled again.
You know what I mean?
So, I've kind of come to the point now in my life where I trust in God alone, in Jesus, His Son, our Lord, and the Holy Spirit to guide me, and I don't put my faith in man, ever.
And I will never, ever make that mistake again.
But I'm open about it, and I say it like it is.
Like, I made that mistake.
Now...
I think at least the ones who, you know, watch often and everything respect me is because I've been willing to put myself out there to say, okay, well, this is where I got it wrong.
This is where I got it right.
Let's build on what was good and kind of look at what was bad and then move along.
And looking back at QAnon, I agree with you on the idea that the research was good.
This is what I've said day in, day out.
The cult mentality that came from it was not good.
This secret cult society thing that has grown from it is not as good as the research that was about Jeffrey Epstein, about You know, the cults in Hollywood, the Satanism that truly does exist.
People just think it's not real.
I mean, you got people like Sam, whatever his name is, at the Grammys, you know, dressed up like the devil and worshiping Satan in an open theater.
And everybody's clapping like seals.
And this is like, you know, your idols, these idols that they create, not you, but the people out there in culture, they worship the devil.
And they are of the devil in a lot of ways, in the way that they act, in the way they present themselves, in the way that they reject God and ignore him.
So I think this will take us, because, you know, talking about Q&A and all this stuff, it takes us perfectly to the next one, which is a song you made.
Go back to your music.
Called Ukraine Flag in the bio.
Now, it's a hilarious song.
And as a Christian man, I can't lie.
I can't really watch the video, but I do listen.
I listen to the words, right?
You can watch the video.
It's not bad.
But it's a married man, more importantly.
But when you look at that song...
It questions this.
It's almost like, I don't know how you would characterize it, but I call it like a mockery of society.
You're like mocking this, the way that people are driven like sheep into these ideations.
And like what you talk about is like this phenomenon of people putting the Ukraine flags in their bio.
You kind of break it down.
And then you make fun of it, which is probably the best thing you could do as an artist, in my opinion, is to mock these things that are so ridiculous.
But when it's in music form and it's funny and it's clever and it's catchy and it's good, it gets people to maybe...
Even doubt and question themselves.
And the people we're targeting, you know, I think you're targeting with your music, I should say, is more like people who are maybe the ones with the flag in their bio.
And they may think, oh, this is a cool song about how virtuous I am.
And then they listen to it and they go, what am I doing with my life?
You know, like talk about that song.
Wait, let me play a clip from that song real quick for the audience.
Watch this.
Watch this.
I'll be the realest.
Y'all going to feel it.
High is the ceiling.
I'm in the building.
the building I'm going to have to go and match it.
Y'all think the villains are really the heroes?
Stuck in De Niro.
It's about to get spiritual.
Tell Jesus Christ I've been trying my best.
So the girls on the gram now, I see them flex.
Sometimes I feel this crazy world to test.
Oregon Trail, I'm about to move west.
Rockstar Eddie Vedder music.
Trailblaze, Meriwether Lewis.
If you didn't get that reference, you should have been a better student.
Yeah.
My baby hot like a Ukraine bio lab.
WMD where them Hussein vials at.
You thought that martial law was just a conspiracy.
Then they locked you in your house and brainwashed you to think differently.
Okay.
And so talk about Ukraine flag in the bio and what it meant to you.
Where that song, where was the inspiration from?
I think we guessed where the inspiration was from, but where was it from?
Yeah, you actually nailed it.
And I want to say this.
I mean, I wouldn't call it not a success.
But basically, when I released it, it's still not on Instagram.
I don't think it's on TikTok.
And I really made it for social media.
So it never really took off.
And maybe it wouldn't have anyway.
But like, the whole point of it was to be an Insta stories like and and Shareable.
You know when people wanted to share a Ukraine song?
So I actually tried to make it as a disguise song that people that were pro-Ukraine would play.
Because the hook is kind of ignorant and the hook is kind of like sneaky where I'm saying, baby with the fit girl booty have a Ukraine flag in her bile.
Actor that I'm watching in a movie have a Ukraine flag in her bile.
World War III on the beat got the whole club jumping like a riot.
Like it's supposed to be like a club banger where people are like, yeah, I got the...
But I'm actually kind of mocking it where I'm just like saying it's sheep and, you know, like...
I purposely tried to make it something that maybe would blow up and people that were pro-Ukraine would play it, not even realize that I'm not that person.
So it was kind of like an experimental song.
But yeah, that was it.
And I have to say too, this is something that I'm pretty happy about as far as my reporting, because when Zelensky came out and the war started, I would say 98% of the conservative pages I follow were pro-Zelensky in Ukraine at the beginning.
They were posting Snake Island and Ghost of Kiev.
Like, big Republican pages.
It took them a couple weeks to figure it out.
I never did that.
I never once fell for it.
I did the accurate reporting, and I got my Instagram demonetized at the time for being right about the story, saying it wasn't real.
No one did it.
Not Fox News, not Daily Mail, not any of the influencers.
And the reason I knew not to trust Zelensky in Ukraine...
It's because I covered the story years ago about how he was an actor-producer, you know, with Kovartal 95, like a production studio.
He was the president on television for three years, and then he became the president, and his production studio turned into his political party.
Like, the whole thing just is like the greatest psyop of all time.
Like, literally a psychological operation to tell the people of Ukraine that he's the outsider president and then make him president.
So that's why I never fell for it, but...
Yeah, I mean, the Ukraine flag in the bio, it's just like, you know, non-playable characters programming them.
I know a few people from Ukraine, and I don't hate on them.
You know what I'm saying?
You're from Ukraine.
You love your country.
I get that.
But if you didn't even know where Ukraine was on a map four months ago, and now all of a sudden you're the biggest Ukraine flag fan, you know, like, where is it on a map?
I don't know.
Would you replace your vaccine card with a Ukraine flag?
Like, it's...
You know, it was definitely a sneaky mockery song to try to, like, make it a viral hit and have people almost not even realize that I wasn't pro.
But the rapping was so fast.
It was like club versus, like, you know, dropping some lyrics that were, like, people, oh, yeah, wait, what does he think?
So...
I swear, I mean, I listened to that song for the first time and I thought, it wasn't like, it struck me like you said, like a club song, like you'd be at a bar and a club and like that would be what's on because it's kind of, it's upbeat, it's kind of fast and it's good, but I watched the video,
I have to admit, and then I listened to it, you know, you listen to the words, and And I was laughing so hard to myself thinking, you know, like he's done this incredibly genius thing where he's taken this concept of the flag and the bio and he's going to get people that are not really paying attention to watches and it's going to really get people.
Like you said, maybe it didn't take off.
Maybe there are certain factions at work that don't want that kind of thing to take off, to be honest with you, because we all know how the intelligence services are basically...
They basically have an embedded set of agents at every social media company, so they probably flagged that immediately, and we're...
Let's be honest.
But without getting too conspiratorial with things that we can't prove, this is a great segue into Ukraine.
So you've given your kind of general thought on Ukraine, which I think is important now.
Talking about the conflict more broadly, like what's happening in Ukraine with Zelensky, I know you've been covering this very well.
Like you said, you've been doing kind of stalwart reporting on it from day one.
You've been not falling for these tricks.
I was the ghost of Kiev and da-da-da-da-da.
It just sounded like Jussie Smollett to me.
I'm like, I'm going to hold off on this one, you know?
When I saw Sam Hyde and I was just like, oh gosh, what is this?
I'm like, these people, they still never learn.
So if you think about Ukraine as the country goes, right?
We can go into all the different motivations around it, but there is one central theme that I think a lot of it has been, it's almost insane how our society and culture has just ignored and glanced over that, the whole relation between Ukraine, Zelensky, Hunter Biden, Joe Biden, Arisma, Metabiota, these biolabs that Russia keeps telling us exist all throughout that country.
Speaking of the biolabs and Metabiota and Hunter Biden, first off, I guess...
What's your take on the media's complete disregard for and basically covering up of the fact that Hunter Biden's laptop seems to prove that Joe Biden was involved in bribery schemes and that his son is a degenerate crackhead, sex trafficking person?
Drug trafficker?
I don't know how to put that.
He traffics women, it seems, with his prostitution proclivities and he traffics drugs because we have videos of him weighing out 20 grams of rock cocaine, which his father would have lobbied 20 years ago or 30 years ago for mandatory minimum sentences for him to go away for a long time on.
What is your...
Kind of overall, like your 40,000 foot view on the hypocrisy, the lies and the cover ups with Ukraine and Biden and everything else.
I want to take it back real quick to 2014 because there was something, they call it the revolution of dignity where like 100 people died.
It was basically a regime change or a coup or some sort of revolution in Ukraine where a pro-Western leader took over after a revolution.
You know the West is in on it to some extent or they liked it because they call it a revolution of dignity.
They'll say January 6th was worse than 9-11 in Pearl Harbor where like a couple people died and it wasn't from what they even said.
But when 100 people die in Ukraine, it's a dignity revolution?
Are you serious?
So just the name alone tells me everything I need to know.
Is that the Maidan revolution, if I'm not?
Exactly, yeah.
The Maidan revolution, or they call it sometimes the revolution of dignity.
And then in 2016, that video came out of Lindsey Graham and John McCain over in Ukraine, essentially waging war on Russia in Ukraine, basically being like, we gotta go, we gotta fight.
That was before Trump even got into office.
You know, they were over there.
And then, you know, as they called everybody from 2017 to 2020, everybody's Russian.
If you like Bernie Sanders more than Hillary, you're a Russian.
You're a Russian bot.
If you like Trump, you're Russian.
You're a grandma who's conservative.
You must be working for Russia.
So they had this war boiling for six years, you know, and it was basically like, you know, this is the one great thing about Trump or maybe not the one great thing.
But I do think that, you know, they wanted to start that war earlier, perhaps.
And him being there really bothered them.
And the fact that he toned it down in Syria and stopped funding rebel groups who were probably just terrorists and Trump actually cut a two billion dollar, I think, CIA program to stop funding rebels, which is one of my favorite things he did.
You know, Russia was helping Syria, so, you know, they were pissed at Trump for that reason also, you know, because Russia stepped in, and now it looks like Trump's working with them, but really what Trump's doing is stopping a war and saving people in Syria.
He did a great job there.
Not perfect.
Some people in Syria will be like, he bombed a few times.
But compared to Obama, in my opinion, Trump is a saint there.
And then, you know, you get to Biden and all that stuff with the laptop.
And, you know, it's just like a...
And the guy who funded Zelensky, his name was Kolomoisky.
He's banned from the United States now.
That's who basically bankrolled Zelensky to get into office.
He had some massive billion-dollar bank scandal, and he's completely banned from the U.S. There's corruption from front to bottom there.
And it's like they wanted that war so bad.
I think they poked the bear, metaphorically, you know, in Russia, like a hundred times, and then he jumps across the line, and then they act like they don't know why it happened.
So it's like, you know, all the corruption there.
Did Romney have something in there too?
Or I can't remember if it was like, was it Mitt Romney or whose family was it?
I think it is Mitt Romney's family.
It's also Paul Pelosi and the rest of those guys.
So it's Mitt Romney's son.
It's Mitt Romney's kid as well.
Christopher Hines is the stepson of John Kerry.
He's connected to Hunter Biden and Metabiota and Burisma.
They were working together.
You forgot to mention, though, that Zelensky was the voice actor for Ukrainian Paddington Bear, which I always find the most fascinating thing of all.
Not to mention the fact that he was basically astroturfed in the presidency, as you referenced.
I didn't know that.
Yeah.
Oh, he was, yes.
The Ukrainian Paddington Bear.
He's the voice actor.
That's hilarious.
Yeah, it's a fun fact that not many people know.
And then on top of all that, you have him being basically astroturfed in by Kolomoisky with that TV show he was in where he plays the president.
Of a political party that didn't exist, then they make the political party in real life, and he becomes the president magically.
And the guy who was pro-Russian before him, I think it was Poroshenko, is just magically overthrown in this election.
And real quick, I just want to...
I just want to say, the production studio became his political party.
Like, it would be like if NBC made a movie with Jimmy Kimmel, and then Jimmy Kimmel won the election, and NBC literally just becomes his political party.
It's like the actual production studio almost, like, doubles as a political party.
Like, the same thing.
Like, oh, we were a production studio, now we're all, like, politicians and stuff.
It's such an obvious, like...
I mean, it's kind of like an intelligence.
It's like the CIA's wet dream what happened over there, you know, and all that coming together the way it did, obviously.
And, you know, obviously it's all, you know, just a coincidence that Zelensky's pro-Western, pro-Biden, pro-Kolomoisky and his corruption and, you know, prosecutors getting fired, all that stuff.
We can't ask questions about that.
Well, we can now because we're not on YouTube anymore.
But If you're on YouTube, you can't say these things, unfortunately, or else it will get canceled because there are still thought police.
And that's bringing us perfectly into the next topic.
So you did a song, which was amazing, called All My Friends Are Shadow Banned.
And it's actually really, it's a catchy song.
It's got just this kind of tight beat that's like really gets you.
You know, I get the little goosebumps when you listen to it.
You know, you get that good feeling.
You're like, yeah, this is a good song.
And as somebody who's been Shadowban, And I consider myself a friend of yours.
You know, we know each other at least.
And it's like, it is so true.
The words in the song, and you have Bryson on it, and who I love, you know, he's a good friend of both ours.
And it's like, that song speaks so...
Clearly to people like me, but more broadly to the censorship regime on the internet.
And like, for instance, in doing just a little, I wanted to get some topics together for the show today with this interview.
And I went to go on Twitter and I was like, you know, I've been seeing your tweets all morning, but I wanted to pull up your page.
So I went and I typed anomaly in the search.
Nothing came up.
Your profile didn't come up.
Then I typed legendary energy, which is your Twitter handle on.
Nothing came up.
Until I searched legendary energy and then a tweet from Bryson Gray that had mentioned you popped up, but not your profile, which I just thought was like insane.
So tell me, how has the censorship of the internet affected you and your channel and your music and what you're doing these days?
Yeah, I'll say real quick, with that song, the inspiration was...
Oh, wait, wait, wait.
Hold on.
Let me play a clip of that song for the audience so they know what we're talking about.
You guys listen to this right here.
We're our shadow band.
We call out World Economic Forum.
You ain't righteous.
All your censorship is boring.
All my, all my friends are shadow bands.
Still we got more famous than you weasels.
Hollywood is filled with pedophiles and treaters.
They treat us like we're the Taliban.
Just cause we love Jesus flagging freedom.
Swear they treat us better if we were illegal.
I know the feds watching.
You're working for the free entertainment.
I know that China's plotting.
But I still got love for all my Asians.
I know some blood be clotting.
And they tell you to blame the climate change and big pharma making profits.
They can lie and never make a payment.
No liability.
Their product's killing me.
They love anomaly out in the Philippines.
Y'all can't get rid of me.
This is my symphony.
Simply put, you ain't getting no sympathy.
All my friends are shadowbenders.
It's a mystery.
They can't debate, so they got to do censorship.
I got the soul of Jefferson.
It's effortless.
The control of everything is destiny.
Yeah.
They shadow ban you for big pharma.
It's a cover up like Cocoon Lara.
These left wing doctors are depressed because they can't handle that big karma.
The Bible told you to trust your God.
Then listen, now you got monkey pox.
And if the kids got it in a rainbow household, then I think it's time to 911 the cops.
All right.
So tell us how is the censorship of the internet affected you, but But first, tell us what you want to tell us about that song, which is called All My Friends of Shadowband.
And all these songs, ladies and gentlemen, are going to be linked in the description below this video.
Yeah, it wasn't just like a gimmicky song that I thought of to capture that audience.
It was like my buddy Mike Yoder, who's a lawyer, we were at a thing together, and I went to tag him, and it said, like, you can't tag him in your story.
And I'd never seen that before on Instagram, but it was basically like, yeah, he exists, but you just can't tag him.
And I'm like, what the hell is that, dude?
He's like, I'm shadowbanned.
They won't even let you tag him.
So the first lyrics are, all my friends are shadowbanned.
I can't even tag them in my story.
We're all shadowbanned.
Evil people want to take our glory.
We're all shadowbanned.
We call out World Economic Forum.
Because it came to my head where I was like, all my friends are shadowbanned at that moment.
So that was the inspiration of not being able to tag them.
With Twitter, I've heard that.
I haven't complained about it too much, but everybody keeps telling me the last couple weeks they can't search me.
How that happens, I'm not sure.
I guess how it's affected me, I'll say two things.
One, I'm very, very grateful because I've been able to reach a lot of people and I've been able to kind of like calm the waters to some extent.
But, you know, Facebook, I've probably gotten like six, seven, 800 million views or something.
I lost count, like a lot on there.
And I've never been kicked off, but I know I'm swimming against the grain.
You know what I'm saying?
If they wouldn't have done certain things, I know at certain points, it's like nobody could see my pictures for three months.
They demonetized me for three months.
They take away my live stream for a week.
Anytime I've gotten a lot of traction, they cut it off and basically make me start over.
YouTube, same thing as Twitter.
If you search my name, you'll find a video of someone interviewing me with 500 views, but it's hard to even find my own video sometimes.
It goes in and out.
You know, Instagram, I had a back and forth with a fact checker.
They responded to me and they said that they had the right to say my video was false, even though it was true, because someone in the comments said something and my video misled them in the comments.
And like they went to my face, but like it's insane the type of stuff they're doing.
So I have to say it's affected me, but at the same time, I'm banned from TikTok now.
My whole TikTok got deleted with hundreds of thousands of followers.
So it's happened, but I'm not a victim by any means.
I've been able to kind of weather the storm and find a way to reach people.
But you do wonder, just like with, say, like Trump, how...
Everything they show about them is negative, where it's like, what would America look like if they just gave everyone an even playing field?
Like, you know, what would my Facebook page look like if they never did all that stuff?
But if you look at my page even now versus Shapiro, you know, he buys a lot of ads and stuff.
He's got 9 million followers.
He's got no engagement, you know, like nobody's commenting, nobody's liking.
So, you know, I've somehow been able to weather the storm, and I think...
I will say this, too.
And maybe you've noticed this, or maybe you haven't.
Anytime an election comes around, I feel like they tighten the grip.
I think they know, statistically, if we do this to the Hodge twins and Anomaly and D.C. Draynor or whoever the big accounts are, I notice that every election season.
I think they're purposely doing it, and I think they have an algorithm of, like, if these people are reaching hundreds of millions of people...
If we just turn it down 40% for six weeks and then give it back to them after the election, I think that's one way that they're rigging elections is that they're manipulating algorithms, twisting it at certain times, and they have the data.
If I have all the data that Facebook and YouTube and Google has, I could sell you stuff.
It's so powerful, and I think that's the unspoken way that they're rigging stuff.
People know about it, but I think they're rigging stuff extra hard for the couple months or a couple weeks coming to an election, whether it's a midterm or a general.
Well, I mean, and look, God bless you, sir.
And I know one of your slogans is God bless, right?
I love that about you.
It's God's slogan.
I know.
You like to use that phrase a lot, and I love it because I say that often as well.
It's just a general wonderful thing to share with people.
It's the blessing of God, right?
But God bless you for the fact that you weathered the storm you got through because I didn't.
I got deleted off YouTube.
I got deleted from Twitter.
I had 70,000 on Twitter.
I had 300,000 on YouTube.
And it was a big impediment.
But in a way, it was good.
And I know God always has a plan.
He closes the door, opens the window.
And I always have faith that whatever happens is in His plan.
So if I'm not meant to be on there, that's fine.
It's all good.
But...
It's good that at least some people got through.
And that's why I'm so thankful that you came on the show today because I wanted to share your story with our audience so that they could see that a man who can still speak the truth can make it.
I mean, maybe you were probably a lot more political than I chose to be at that time, but I was just purged.
Like, you talk about elections.
Two weeks before the 2020 election, Myself and about at least a dozen or 20 other people, we tried to sue Google over this.
They deleted us and they gave no real cause.
We got no strikes, no warnings.
They just took us off the platform.
And I feel like Especially with the advent of AI and everything, this is only going to get worse.
It's only going to get more pervasive and more prevalent and more obvious.
And I do pray that you continue to survive because we need people who are rational-minded and who are logical thinkers who can critically think outside of a paper bag, as it were, because that's pretty much all they want to leave on is people who don't think very hard about many things because those are the people that are easy to...
But speaking of Twitter, Elon Musk, what are your thoughts on Elon Musk and the Twitter files and Twitter in general and its new restructuring?
I want to get your take on that speaking of censorship.
Yeah, I mean, I kind of look at him like DeSantis.
They're different, but basically, like, I think he's interesting and funny, and I do think he's revealed a lot at Twitter.
Like, at the end of the day, Elon Musk doesn't owe me anything.
He could be like Bill Gates and never do anything for me.
He could be like, you know, Zuckerberg and do less.
So, just the fact that he did that, I appreciate, but...
I'm skeptical of the space stuff.
I don't really believe a lot of stuff he's doing, or I'm skeptical of it.
The Neuralink, the computer chips in the brain, obviously is a massive red flag.
I don't need to tell your audience how that could go wrong.
So I'm not idol-worshiping him, but honestly, what's interesting, too, is he's kind of like Trump was early in the Twitter days, where he's easily accessible.
Like he'll respond and say funny things a lot.
He was one of the first people before even Trump, before Republicans, to really bash the COVID thing.
And, you know, I posted a Illinois doctor, it's like Azike, I forget her name, but she basically was the health director of Illinois.
And they were like, you know, is everybody who dies with COVID?
And she was like, well, technically, if you have COVID and you die from something else, we're still calling it COVID.
You know, that was one of the first videos of people like, oh, they're counting crazy.
And Elon actually somehow found my tweet and responded to it and said, you know, it would be helpful if they said with COVID or from COVID. And then he went on Joe Rogan and really spoke the truth about COVID in May 2020.
So...
I've always appreciated him for that.
He's retweeted me before where I talked about population collapse.
You know, all the billionaires say, oh, we don't need babies.
You know, like population growth is too crazy.
He's one of the only ones saying it's the opposite.
Like people have to have more babies.
Population collapse is a problem.
So I would say I appreciate it.
I think just like when Trump retweeted people, it's always nice for someone to share you and reach out across the aisle.
But yeah, I'm not one of these people that's like, oh, he's my savior, Musk 2024.
He said before he wants carbon tax.
Personally, I'll say it on your channel because it's on Rumble and Bitchute.
I think I've said it on mine too, but I don't believe that he really sent a Tesla into space.
To me, it looked fake.
So it's like, I'm not drooling over the guy.
You know, I appreciate cool things he does.
He didn't have to do what he did for Twitter.
In some ways, he helps us more than most Republicans.
I think what he did with Twitter has been more helpful than anything 99% of Republicans has done.
But I'm not running into his brain chip or anything.
You know, I'm like healthily...
I'm grateful for what he's done, but not foolish to plant a chip in my brain.
No, I mean, look, I agree with you.
And as somebody who was retweeted by Trump back in the day, I know what that feels like.
I know what that is.
I know it's kind of like a big deal.
And you're like, all right, regardless of what you think of that person, I love Trump still, even though he's a flawed man and I disagree with him on a lot of things.
And I want to challenge him to help make him better.
It's a cool thing, right, to have that kind of connection.
My only thoughts on Elon are essentially, I've talked about this on the show, so you guys probably know, but maybe if we're getting a new audience because people are following you and seeing this, my thoughts are simple.
You know, he wears that Champion of the Devil outfit in his profile pic.
Right.
You know, he's in bed with the communist Chinese.
He's praised the WeChat, wants to turn Twitter into WeChat, which is the social credit system in China.
And like you said, the implanting of the chips in our brain is, to me, you know, the next step in the Mark of the Beast type technology that they're going to want to unleash on us all.
But other than that, you know, he's in the Twitter file.
So what are we going to say?
With RFK Jr., he's great on vaccines, but he's a Democrat and, you know, he still, I think, kind of buys into some of the climate change narrative.
I think it's healthy to be like, dude, I love RFK on that.
But, you know, it's not all or nothing.
I think it's okay.
Especially as, like, you know, I don't know.
I call myself a news analyst, but some would say journalist, reporter, whatever, influencer.
I really do think it's our job to, like, you know, ask questions.
Like, not be a dick and not hate somebody.
But, you know, like, we can't have this false paradigm of the left just asking stupid, crazy questions.
The right just, like, lap-dogging everybody, you know?
So I think with Elon or Trump or anyone...
It's good to be skeptical.
Everything you said is absolutely things that should be asked to him in an interview.
It shouldn't be like, Elon, are you going to run with Tulsi Gabbard?
Are you my hero?
It is what it is.
I've asked him to no avail on Twitter, of course, because my account was reset.
Now I went from $70,000 to $500,000, which I don't know if that even matters, to be honest with you.
I know it doesn't matter because it's just a number, but I guess it matters with your reach.
I agree with you on that, and that kind of brings us to the last song that I wanted to reference here in our amazing conversation.
And by the way, thank you for having it, because you've been very honest and candid, and I really appreciated your answers.
You did a song with a mutual friend of ours, Seth, from Venice Beach Dub Club, called Fundemic.
Now, this is...
Probably one of my favorite songs you've done.
And it's not necessarily because I appreciate your rap and everything, but it's just such a positive and uplifting and inspirational song that with you and your lyrics and your verses and your kind of spirit you bring to that.
And then him, Seth, and the Venice Beach Dub Club Band and their kind of reggae and the tone and the vibe that they bring to it, the positivity, which I love their music.
Otherwise, you know, Pure Bloods and other things they've done, which is really great.
You should go check it out if you haven't already.
Let me ask you this.
Before we do, I'm going to play a clip from Fundemic, the amazing song here for you guys to watch and listen to.
Let's watch a little clip right now.
I can really rap just a little bit.
Tastes like cinnamon when you feel the flavor I'm living in.
I don't swear to critic.
I'm in the city replenishing.
Drop top.
Truman show like experience.
Sunlight beaming.
Smoking earth for the evening.
I ain't bulimic.
I'm eating food and I'm cheesing.
You got one life living.
eating me or you being it ain't up to me you do you i'm in the season of reason i got a reason i'm speaking and it's an easy to leak it but i got stoned with the preachers i climbed the rope to the bleachers and i was hoping for peace through the balance of good and evil yin and yank me the sequel the black and white make it equal but i ain't lying deceitful i make mistakes we are people a human being to reach you the great area teach you this way scabrior trying to make the barriers see through the lives from the politicians
they red and blue like the policeman brothers and sisters we're moving up i'll be going higher and higher i fly like a pilot and no like the violence i want no baby don't worry all right
so that's an amazing song and And I actually just, I think it's probably one of my favorite songs just in general, like of all music.
You know, I listen to a lot of Christian rock and Christian alternative.
That's pretty much all I listen to.
And then I listen to, and I consider you guys Christian like rap, like you and Bryson Gray, because you guys bring a Christ-centric, you know, philosophy to your music.
But what is...
your philosophy in your music and in life in general because that fundemic just felt like it captured something that i believe when i watch you you you always leave people or you try to not in every situation because no we all none of us do that but in in a lot of ways you try to leave people with this positive message that
And I think that leaving people on a positive note is so important, especially in these days where we can get so pessimistic and down, and things can look like they're going in the wrong direction.
What is your philosophy in life, I guess?
Should I give you the most existential question I could think of here?
Yeah, well, I guess I'm a Christian, but if you listen to my music over the years, I've been making it since 2008.
It's been a journey.
You know what I'm saying?
I've been in my 20s.
I've been more degenerate, I would say, in my thought process of just what I thought it meant to be cool.
And now as I get older, I'm much more Christian and conservative, so it's definitely evolved.
Every song, it evolves.
Sometimes I look back and there's always a lyric that I was like, I wouldn't write it that way.
But...
Yeah, I would say I'm a Christian, but as far as life philosophy, something that really changed my life was self-awareness and Taoism at a certain point.
I'm not a Taoist.
Like I said, I'm a Christian, but the Taoist principles.
There's actually a really great book, I was pumped to find it, that a Christian went through Tao Te Ching by Lao Tzu, which is like the classic Tao text, and he basically showed the parallels to Christianity.
He wasn't like, oh, that's not Christian, don't look at it.
He was like, No, he made the bridge.
And I was like, oh, it's so dope that someone did that.
But that changed my thought process in my 20s.
I would say I was more envious.
I was maybe not so grateful, appreciative, always thinking about the future, the past.
And once I realized that, it's like the present moment.
God is great.
Use the resources you have.
Don't look at what other people have.
My whole life changed from that point.
So I think I combine, obviously at this point, I try to combine Christian values, but with this presence and gratefulness and appreciation.
So that's what I try to do there.
With my videos, even if I watch Fox News or Newsmax, if I'm at home and someone's putting it on, It's like scary sometimes.
And it's like, it's overwhelming.
It's like, damn, the border is like crazy because it is crazy.
But I try to leave on a positive note where I try to tell people what is good because at the end of the day, like no matter how much bad news you watch, you still got to turn off the TV and live life.
So I try to teach the principles of self-awareness, self-accountability.
You know, I believe in God as a news reporter.
I would say that I don't try to overly push it.
I try to somewhat lead by example.
I'm certainly not perfect, but it's like I'm reporting the news, but I don't hide who I am.
I say I believe in God, and I think it's important.
That's what got me into news in the first place, too, besides the fact that the media was corrupt and lying about Bernie and Trump.
Just like the toxicity of it and the negativeness of it.
And you're starting to see it now with the Trump versus DeSantis.
I don't mind a political fight, but the base, in my view, a lot of people who like Trump are being so toxic to people who like DeSantis.
And it's like, this is the energy I don't like.
I don't like when liberals do it to conservatives.
I don't like when conservatives do it to liberals.
And I don't like it when conservatives do it to each other.
You could disagree.
You don't have to like dissentists.
You heard this interview.
I'm not asking people to baby them.
But are you really going to just fight with your own people for a year and a half over a preference for a politician?
So I try to be joyful, appreciative, grateful.
And my philosophy is always changing.
But the older I get and the crazier the left gets, it seems like the more Christian I get.
But I have a long way to go, in my opinion.
Well, that's very well said, and I appreciate your honesty and openness on that.
And, you know, my faith is obviously on display, not just through these slogans that I have around where I, you know, talk about it, but I do openly, you know, I share the gospel on evangelists.
I do that every day, and that is something that I think helps, you know, will help the world more than anything else, right?
You know, we can talk about all these different things, even solutions to problems here in this world.
People don't realize, though, I mean, a lot of people, Even if they realize that they don't want to accept it, because it would be like accepting their mortality, is that we all leave the same way.
You're either going to go to hell or you're going to go to heaven.
Once you make that realization, then it's important to understand what is your life going to be?
What do you want it to be devoted to?
Do you want to build your treasure here on earth or in heaven with Jesus?
And that's kind of where I'm at.
And I appreciate you taking the time to tell us about all of that.
I cannot thank you enough for this amazing chance to interview you.
You're an inspiration.
And like you said, I'll comment real quick on, you talked about how your music's evolved from, you said 2008, I think, to today, and how you start off with a different mindset.
I was the same way, my friend.
You know, in college, before I really found my faith again in Christ, I was a bit of a degenerate, if you will.
I voted for Obama twice.
I was not living my purest and cleanest life.
And it was only when I turned my life over to Christ and basically rededicated myself.
That things turned around and everything started getting better and I started being able to help others and do things that were positive in the world.
And it sounds like you're on that same kind of trajectory where you start in a way and then you evolve into different phases of your life.
And I pray and hope that those cycles of evolution continue to bring you closer to the highest power that is Christ.
And we'll go ahead and Leave it there.
But if you have any parting words for the audience, now's a great time to share them.
Tell them about where they can find you.
I'll leave links to all your stuff in the description of the video, but tell them where you want them to go find you, what you want them to do, and anybody out there in the audience who's new to your stuff, where they can find it and everything else.
Well, I'm starting to say DreamRareLinks.com has all my links.
So if you just go to D-R-E-A-M-R-A-R-E-L-I-N-K-S, DreamRareLinks.com, it has all the links to like every social media.
And I want to say it was interesting on what you were talking about.
And I thought this in my head too, because, you know, I see that a lot of left-wingers don't like right-wingers and conservatives and Christians because they see that they're hypocritical.
And there are a lot of hypocritical people.
And, you know, a lot of people are flawed.
But here's where I think that the right is obviously in the right, where it's obviously better to be on a good trajectory.
It's, I think, impossible to be perfect.
But it's that self-awareness to know that it's wrong.
You know what I'm saying?
You can't even possibly be on the right trajectory if you won't admit what's wrong.
So you have the left saying, wrong is right.
You have the right saying, wrong is wrong.
And then they'll be like, but you messed up and you messed up.
It's like, Yeah, people will mess up, and I'm not making excuses for bad stuff, but it's like, you know, it's hard to really, like, be happy and honest and, you know, be a good person if you're lying so much to yourself.
So I think it's that awareness that, yes, that isn't ideal.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, it would be like me saying, you know, it's great that Hunter Biden's a crackhead.
You know what I'm saying?
That's just a great way to live.
It's not.
I've done drugs before.
I mean, not that heavy, what he's doing.
But it's like, I can't be a hypocrite and say, I've never done it.
I don't know what it's like.
But I can confidently say, it's not smart to smoke crack.
Where it's almost like the left is like, not in this phrase, but in other things, it is good to smoke crack.
And then that's, you know, it's an interesting thing.
So I think it all starts with the awareness to know what's wrong.
And they're almost just embracing those things and trying to make it popular.
You know what I'm saying?
And trying to make it cultural.
In every aspect of the word, which is causing this upside-down world.
But in my view, as a Christian and conservative, it's good to be thoughtful, compassionate, and I think you can convince more people when you're convincing.
If you're angry and nasty, to me, it only drives them further.
But it is what it is.
Everyone's responsible for themselves.
Well, it's like the society controllers, right, who want to push the kind of degeneracy that keeps people basically weak and unable to become leaders and unable to become financially organized or whatever it is, financially literate even in some cases, so that they can be controlled and they can be exploited.
And that's kind of a system.
And then what happens is that the people on the lower end, I think, the ones you're talking about, especially on the left, will say, you know, that, you know, wrong is right because they're like pot committed.
They don't And they don't even realize it, but they're like, you know, I'm just not going to try.
But this is why the term that I have up here is up here, and it's in all my social media, and I talk about it a lot, is God's grace and how it is greater, because grace is essentially the undeserved favor, the undeserved forgiveness even, that God gives us.
He gives it to us freely so that we can look introspectively and say, you know, we make mistakes, we're imperfect, we fall, and we're going to keep falling.
But if we strive toward becoming better and working to help others and treating others as we want to be treated, living these Christian principles that Christ came to teach us through his gospel and his life in its entirety, that's what I think I want to share with the world.
If that makes sense, that's what I want to bring to people so that when they look at themselves in the mirror, they don't see somebody who's broken and unable to be saved.
They could say, I may be broken now, but I can become better.
And, you know, there's just too many forces in this world that want to keep people exploitable and unaware and uninformed.
And I think that I know I'm trying my best to, you know, combat that with God.
And I can tell in you and your life and your career, which I don't know about your life, I guess, because that's outside of your career, but in your career, from what I've observed, You seem to be doing that same thing, sir.
And I thank you for that.
And I think if my audience hasn't found you, go to DreamRareLinks.com.
Yeah, DreamRareLinks.com.
We'll leave a link to that and a link to all the videos that we showed you here in the channel today in the description.
But any final words, my friend, before we get off?
Yeah, I'll just say like in person, it was great meeting you and everybody can't say nice enough things about you.
So anybody watching him, he's the real deal as a person too.
Super nice guy, super easy to talk to and super fun to be around.
So, you know, you picked a real one.
That's really a big deal coming from you.
I really appreciate that, man.
And I can't wait.
Hopefully we'll see each other again soon in the future.
If not, we don't see each other soon in the future.
Maybe we'll get you back on the show for another interview because this was fun.
And I actually could go through another dozen or so of your songs and do the same exact thing.
And hopefully, maybe in a year from now or whenever, there'll be so many more songs.
We can do this all over again and it'll be even more interesting.
Dude, really cool format.
Thank you for that.
I appreciate it.
Well, I got to introduce the audience to somebody who I think is really going to help change their lives, hopefully for the better.
And it's definitely something to enjoy.
And it was enjoyable having you on the show here.
So I'm going to say thank you to my good friend.
You can find him.
His name's Anomaly.
He's on Twitter at Legendary Energy.
You can go to DreamRareLinks.com if you want to find his work.
He's on YouTube.
He's on Instagram.
Apparently, he's on Facebook.
I was banned, so I don't know.
Not on TikTok, though.
They got me.
They got me.
Not on TikTok.
Don't try TikTok.
If there's anybody on TikTok that says they're him, they're not because he's not there.
But definitely go check him out.
Thanks for coming on the show.
I appreciate it.
We'll see you on the next one.
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