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The Raw Deal (Sept 122025) WHO DID 9/11? with special guest, Nicholas Kollerstrom

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	I need somebody, not just anybody.
	You know, I need someone.
	I was younger, so much younger than you did.
	I never needed anybody's help in any way.
	I know now these days I've gone and I'm not so self-assured.
	I've changed my mind.
	I'm not so close to the door.
	Help me if you can, I'm feeling down.
	And I do appreciate your feelings around.
	Help me if you can get my feet back on the ground.
	Won't you think the music cannot be?
	This is Jim Fetzer, your host on the Raw Deal, where I'm very pleased today to be joined by my dear friend and colleague from the UK, Nick Kohlerstrom.
	We're going to be looking at not only issues related to Charlie Kirk to kick things off, but who was responsible for 9-11,
	where Nick and I have drawn similar conclusions, and where I believe, in fact, that the reason for taking out Charlie Kirk in terms of its timing was to flood the news with his assassination before a major 9-11 truth conference could begin in Washington, D.C., which would go for three days, today being the third of those days.
	Dozen or more excellent people addressing the issue hosted by Ron Johnson or featuring Ron Johnson, my senator here from Wisconsin, the redacted guy making daily reports, Richard Gage chairing.
	They wanted to preempt so people would not turn to 9-11 and get hooked.
	Among the anomalies I would cite in support is we had Benjamin Netanyahu, the prime minister of Israel, expressing condolences for the death of Charlie Kirk before the American public even knew he was dead.
	Rather astonishing.
	Then we had Donald Trump, President of the United States, making an announcement Charlie Kirk was dead.
	Now we have a follow-up.
	We have the President of the United States, Donald Trump, announcing that the alleged shooter has been apprehended.
	I'm telling you, this is extraordinary.
	There's no reason in the world why the Prime Minister of Israel ought to be making such a premature announcement or why Donald Trump ought to be participating from the White House making these announcements.
	Just think back in the past, it's always been local authorities who have been making the declarations and for all the right reasons.
	They're on the scene.
	They know what's going on.
	How in the world could the president at the White House know what's going on?
	And yet he's the guy.
	Here it is.
	Trump announces Charlie Kirk assassin is in custody.
	And notice, even if they have a suspect in custody, how could they know this was the Charlie Kirk assassin?
	It's all wrong.
	These are classic signs of a cover-up.
	Here you have Bibi calling Charlie Kirk a once-in-a-generation figure.
	Says you'll think of him for all my life.
	Well, let me assure you, he may be thinking of Charlie Kirk for all his life, but it's not because he regarded Charlie Kirk in high esteem.
	Indeed, what was going on with Charlie Kirk was a transition.
	Charlie Kirk had been a Zionist.
	Charlie Kirk had been on the Israeli side of things, but Charlie Kirk now was changing his tune.
	Charlie Kirk was now visiting Israel, going to the wall, recognizing the whole story about the wall as fishy, explain why it's not anti-Semitic to think there's something funny going on here.
	Not only that, not only that, but Charlie Kirk was calling for the release of the Epstein files.
	McDonald cannot have been happy about that.
	Charlie Kirk was suggesting something is wrong about what happened on 9-11.
	They cannot have been happy about that.
	Charlie Kirk had originated as a supporter of Ron DeSantis, a supporter of Ron DeSantis.
	And when DeSantis faded, he shifted to Trump.
	He was an organizer of the youth.
	He was brilliant.
	He was articulate.
	He was charismatic.
	He was influencing a new generation.
	And guess what?
	That new generation he was organizing was supportive of Hamas overwhelmingly over Israel.
	I believe Charlie was learning from the very young people he was supporting.
	There were reasons to take him out, but they had nothing to do with anyone who was critical of Israel because he was coming around.
	I believe Donald Trump was concerned.
	Bibi Netya, who was concerned, and they orchestrated the event.
	More to say about it.
	There's so much pressure on him now already that Bibi's actually being called upon to declare Israel was not behind the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
	You got Greta Van Stustern with the Beebe the Butcher.
	Before I let you go, I want you to address one thing, and it's just the absurdity of it, some of the internet rumors that somehow Israel is behind the Charlie Kirk murder.
	And I don't believe it for one second, but I want you to make a statement.
	It's so absurd.
	That's insane.
	That's insane.
	Israel also changes the orbit of the moon.
	Israel pushes the sun.
	I mean, the whole thing is, it's not only insane, it's I think it's so absurd, so stupid, it's so stupid and so ridiculous.
	You can't believe that people are saying that they just found the perpetrator.
	They'll get to the bottom of this.
	But they go, you know, they have no limits.
	When you hate Jews, when you hate the Jewish state, you're willing to say anything and promote all these absurd, absurd rumors.
	And by the way, they're willing to kill us all the time.
	I mean, that's what they're doing.
	And, you know, over the centuries when Jews, especially in the Middle Ages, the horrific Middle Ages, the worst things were said about Jews you couldn't possibly believe.
	We were poisoning the wells.
	We were drinking the blood of Christian children.
	You name it.
	I mean, these things.
	That continued actually up to the Holocaust.
	The Nazis said the same thing.
	You know, we're carrying vermin.
	We're spreading disease.
	And people believed it.
	And every time they believed it, this was a prelude to a greater and greater massacre culminating with the worst massacre of them all, the Holocaust.
	Well, since then, we've learned, A, when people spread these lies about us, prepare yourself for the assault.
	And, you know, they're trying to delegitimize the state of Israel.
	Charlie Kirk said to me that it won't be this detailed editor.
	You have to fight the slander.
	These untruths, these vilifications have consequences.
	And he was right.
	But I'll tell you one thing.
	We're fighting on the battlefield against the terrorists and winning.
	And he was fighting in the battlefield of ideas.
	And I think he was winning.
	He was going to win.
	That's why they shot him.
	I hope they don't silence him.
	I don't think people will give in to these ridiculous, ridiculous lies.
	Before I let you go, calling it ridiculous lie doesn't make it ridiculous or false.
	And I dare say, Nick, there's an awful lot of evidence here that's developing that the alleged sniper on the roof was merely the Patsy.
	He turns out to be a young kid.
	He wears blue jeans and, you know, these kind of casual shoes.
	The weapon he's alleged to have used, he's supposed to have broken down, but it's very difficult to break down, requires a wrench, extremely tight.
	He doesn't appear to be very strong.
	I believe the shot actually was taken by an Israeli sniper.
	They pride themselves on their marksmanship, picking off Palestinian kids.
	Best guest talking with an expert in this area, probably from about 400 yards back.
	And when he shot Charlie Kirk, the Patsy was startled.
	He got up.
	He tried to run.
	He jumped down.
	We find the weapon off in the woods.
	Before you know it, a private jet is taking off from a nearby airport.
	And it turns out they didn't change the number.
	The private jet turns off its transponder.
	It's making an illegal departure.
	And guess what?
	It's owned by Chad Lubovich.
	I'm telling you, Nick.
	And look at him appealing all the way back to the Holocaust, which was one of the great lies of all time.
	Bibi is one of the monsters walking the face of the earth today.
	Given what I just guessed, what is your take, my friend, Nick Kohlerstrom?
	Oh, well, Jim, I'm sure you're right.
	I'm sure you're right.
	But I haven't looked into this, I'm afraid, so I can't really comment.
	But something everyone seems to be talking about.
	But I'm sure you're right.
	This is to block out awareness of the big 24th anniversary of the 9-11 event.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, that is exactly right.
	And why they had to use Trump and Netanyahu to do it.
	That would guarantee it would become a huge story.
	If it weren't Trump and Netanyahu, it might have taken hours.
	See, this was very, very timed exquisitely.
	The event in New York was going to begin at 5 p.m. Eastern time.
	The shooting taking place, what, around 3.30, just in time to make the news.
	And because you got Trump and Net Yahoo promoting it, big news, swapping out all other news.
	Here we got the alleged shooter.
	He's just a little kid, 22 years old.
	As they say, how many assassins wear blue jeans and clogs?
	I guarantee you he is merely the patsy.
	Meanwhile, there was an FBI president.
	Did anyone see that press conference by the so-called FBI?
	Something's wrong.
	I know I shouldn't do this.
	I'm risking an awful lot to go up against this FBI, the MAGA FBI.
	Something's very wrong with what I just heard.
	I mean, I watched it.
	I was hoping that they had caught the bastard who shot Charlie.
	So we saw a video of a person jumping off the roof.
	It looked very legitimate to me.
	However, there was no rifle in his hand.
	Now, the Mauser does not break down very easily, incidentally, for those of you who know weapons.
	Something's wrong with the whole thing.
	They're trying to claim he removed the barrel from the Mauser and fit the receiver and stock in his backpack and barrel in his pants, like all in two seconds.
	It is not easy to remove a Mauser barrel or index it after reinstalling and remain accurate.
	We are not hearing or seeing reality.
	And by the way, the photo of the rifle allegedly left in the woods has the barrel installed.
	So we're supposed to believe a guy is on the run after killing Charlie Kirk, and he pauses in the woods to reinstall a barrel and then he leaves it for us to find the FBI to find.
	I don't believe a word of it.
	I shouldn't do this.
	I know I'm putting myself at risk, but I can't take it anymore.
	I can't take the bullshit from this fucking government.
	It's lying to us.
	Something's wrong.
	Good man.
	Something's so wrong.
	It's sickening.
	I'm very impressed with this guy because he's absolutely 100% correct.
	The idea that they parked the rifle in the first place would have required a great exertion, requires a special ranch that he then is fleeing.
	But when he leaves a rifle in the woods, he puts the weapon back together again.
	Meanwhile, here we have Colonel McGregor.
	They don't believe how toxic this is.
	Very troubled by what's going on here, and rightly so.
	That skip is coming out just minutes ago.
	The FBI has photos of the person they believe that they tracked up the stairwell onto the roof and then jumping off the roof after the shot.
	So, you know, this may only be for my Utah audience.
	I don't know if this is someone from Utah or from out of state or out of the country, but this is what the FBI has put out just minutes ago.
	Well, I had done some interviews with Charlie up until about a year, year and a half ago, when he no longer spoke with me because of my position on the Israeli campaign of mass murder and expulsion from Gaza.
	And I simply disagreed with him.
	I also felt very strongly from the very beginning that 7 October was allowed to happen.
	It was a deliberate event.
	I think that he changed his mind later on, but I never really reconnected with him at that point.
	But I thought he was a very nice person.
	I mean, I didn't see anything that I thought was necessarily criminal or evil or anything else.
	I mean, I think he was just a normal, average, decent, honorable person.
	I also know that he had $40 million in his organization's bank accounts.
	And a lot of that appears to have come from Israel supporters.
	And I've seen all of the communications back and forth about his own statements to people like, I guess, Tucker Carlson and others expressing concern about the possibility that his donors would be angry with him because he was changing his views on what the Israelis were up to.
	So I think it's tragic.
	It's awful, but here's something else that also occurs to me.
	I don't think we know a great deal about what happened in Butler, Pennsylvania.
	I think that that particular event was also another professional operation.
	Now, people said it was an assassination attempt.
	I don't think so because the assassin would have put the second bullet through the president's temple.
	I think the person whoever fired that round fired it as a warning to the president.
	I don't think it was his intention to kill him.
	I mean, it's very quick if you've ever had a good sniper rifle, probably the best in the world is still the M14.
	And I've shot that many times and you punch all, you squeeze off a round.
	If you miss by an inch, you squeeze off the next one immediately, and it's over.
	But we've never gotten the truth out of that.
	We had this poor kid on top of a roof who couldn't hit water if he fell out of a boat.
	He's killed instantly, or at least after the president is shot at.
	Then all the material associated with him disappears.
	Within 24 hours, his body is cremated.
	We know nothing.
	So now we're seeing a lot of things show up on the internet.
	And the FBI has said something, as you pointed out.
	I don't believe anything the FBI says anymore.
	So I absolutely know confidence or faith in that institution that I once did.
	So I don't think we know.
	We have now a plane that belonged to someone named Derek Maxfield, who is a big contributor to Chabad, a major Jewish movement to try and buy up and reclaim land in places like Ukraine.
	And he seems to have had his personal aircraft there that suddenly takes off after the event and then turns off its transponder, which is against the law, then turns around and lands again.
	So people are pointing fingers at him.
	Is that legitimate?
	I have no idea.
	I think we have people casting about for anything that they can find to explain the terrible tragedy and killing of Charlie Kirk.
	And I don't think we're going to find anything out.
	I think we're going to be very frustrated ultimately.
	I'd be surprised if we ever find anything out.
	And anybody they point to, I'm suspicious of.
	You know, even Lee Harvey Oswald looks more and more today than ever as a Patsy.
	And he had a rifle.
	It was Italian-made.
	It was standard issue in the Italian army during World War II.
	And it was so grossly inaccurate and such a poor piece of equipment that the Italian soldiers readily threw it away in the desert in North Africa in 1940 and 41 and tried to pick up German or British rifles because their own rifle was so inaccurate.
	And that thing is supposed to be the one that Oswald used to kill the president.
	Doesn't look right.
	I don't think we know what happened then.
	I don't think we know what happened to RFK when he was shot.
	I don't think we know the whole story on what happened in Butler, Pennsylvania.
	And I don't think we are going to know very soon what happened to Charlie.
	That was really, really good.
	Nick, let me just add a few more comments.
	Yeah, that Italian weapon.
	They had to have an odd weapon because you could have bought a superior weapon on any corner store in Dallas without even showing ID.
	So they had to create a paper trail.
	It was fabricated, phony, purchased to be blamed on Lee Oswald.
	The weapon was so bad, as the colonel explained, it was known as the humanitarian rifle in World War II for never actually harming anyone on purpose.
	He's also right.
	Butler, I looked very closely at Butler.
	That was a staged event.
	I do believe there was a plot to kill Trump because he had 29 million Donald J. Trump stocks were shorted, meaning you're making a wager that their value is going to drop.
	If Trump were dead, they would drop dramatically.
	But Trump, who is an actor, he's engaged, you know, in worldwide wrestling phony stunts.
	I think that he had a blood packet.
	His ear was not shot.
	There was minimal blood.
	They moved the photographers around to get the fist pumping shot for propaganda purpose.
	That was completely staged.
	I think what we've got going here is that as the colonel was observing, Charlie Kirk was changing his views.
	He was no longer unqualifiedly supportive of Israel.
	That was going to be a big problem because of his key role within the mega movement.
	And as I've already observed, a polling was showing that Gen Z has gone like 65% in support of Hamas and against the IDF and Israel.
	And he was coming out now in favor of releasing the Epstein files.
	The role of Bibi Network in expressing condolence before the public knew he was dead.
	The role of Donald Trump in announcing his death.
	The role of Donald Trump now in harassing the suspect, those are all totally inappropriate, but make perfect sense.
	If you understand, they were trying to create a big news story that would swamp the initiation of the 9-11 conference.
	Remember, they were worried.
	Once you tuned into the 9-11 conference, it's going to go three days.
	You're not going to relent.
	You're going to continue to follow it.
	They had to preempt that from happening.
	Nick, I realize you haven't been studying the Kirk shooting, but just given what you know now, how much would you think there's plausibility in my account?
	Oh, I'm sure that's what happened, Jim.
	Yeah, especially what Douglas Pegregor said.
	I would hardly discuss it.
	Yeah.
	Really, it's fascinating stuff.
	And there's actually a lot more here today.
	Watch today.
	This is just recounting from yesterday, turning the tide, conference speakers, 2 p.m. Pacific, 5 p.m. Eastern.
	This is what they wanted to preempt.
	Here we have reports widely spread.
	Kirk shooting, F you.
	We all know who did it now.
	Blaming the Charlie Kirk shooting on a Muslim the day before 9-11 isn't going to work this time.
	Prime Minister Netanyahu.
	Tomorrow is September 11th.
	We remember September 11th.
	On that day, Islamic terrorists committed the worst savagery on American soil since the founding of the United States.
	Except it wasn't Islamic terrorists.
	That was a cover story.
	They were the Patsies.
	Here we have Henry Macau reporting, September 11th, did Mossad murder Charlie Kirk?
	Here we have Charlie Kirk splitting with Trump on anti-Semitism crackdown.
	Warren's free speech rights are under attack.
	Here's Henry Macau, himself a Jew, but hyper-critical of Israel for good reason.
	My guess is that Mossad murdered Kirk because he was starting to question Masonic Jewish control of the West.
	The assassin was not a doofus like Thomas Crookes, the pimp squeak that supposedly took a shot at Trump in Butler, PA.
	This was a professional job by an experienced sniper.
	Kirk represented a potential threat to Jewish mind control.
	Now, the FBI is helping Mossad by pretending a college student did it.
	Reader, Harrison Smith at the 49-minute mark of hour two of Alex Jones today said multiple people from the White House are telling him it's Israel who killed Charlie Turk.
	All the bluff and bluster of Alex and his guests went right out the window.
	Meanwhile, Charlie New accusing Jews of funding cultural Marxism, pushing the hate against whites they claim to suffer from.
	Here we have, if we can view it, Charlie Kirk making statements about the kind of claim he doesn't want to generalize, but he's explaining about it and doing so, in my opinion, accurately.
	Lives Matter.
	It is true that some of the largest financiers of left-wing anti-white causes have been Jewish Americans.
	They went all in on woke, and it wasn't just ADL.
	It was some of the top Jewish organizations in the country that have done that.
	In fact, we have seen this with the recent retreat of Jewish donations that are no longer going to be administered to colleges, right?
	Mark Rowan, Leon Koffman.
	Can we get that full list?
	It's very powerful.
	The part of the, so that's totally true.
	And by the way, Tucker Carlson reinforces this.
	So I'm going to kind of, it was quite a day on the internet.
	Tucker Carlson was interviewing Candace Owens.
	We have Candace Owens coming up next hour.
	And Tucker Carlson mentions that Jewish Americans have primarily been financing cultural Marxist ideas.
	We said this, by the way, last week and people came after us.
	We were talking about it.
	We actually said it in a different way.
	We said, I'm glad that Jewish Americans are reconsidering their financing of cultural Marxism and people misunderstood it intentionally.
	Stand by.
	We'll be right back with my special guest, Nick Kohlerstrom.
	Yeah.
	So Jim, have you got the signs ready?
	Yes, I do, Nick.
	Yes.
	Fine.
	Yeah.
	We'll be right back after this lesson.
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	So I have concluded that by taking out Charlie Kirk, timed as it was, a manner to killing two birds with one stone, because they're not only taking out a guy who's turning on Israel.
	getting wandering off the Israeli reservation, he's even promoting freedom of speech.
	He thinks all the anti-Semitism legislation for anyone who's critical of Israel is wrong.
	He's even supporting the release of the Epstein files, which has to piss off Donald Trump.
	And I think they realized they had to nip in the butt.
	This guy was a real force with young people.
	Young people were already turning on Israel.
	As I say, the poll results.
	He was going to become at least as big or bigger than Candace herself, who's been such a brilliant critic of Israel.
	And they timed it to make it distract everyone to flood the news.
	Remember the saying in the newspaper business, in the news business, if it bleeds, it leads.
	And this is why they had to promote it rapidly since the beginning of the conference was going to be at 5 p.m. Eastern.
	Had to get this story out in advance to flood it as a massive form of distraction, which is why you had BB.
	I mean, who the hell is a prime minister of Israel to be extending condolences to the American people for the death of Charlie Kirk?
	He had no road, no business doing that.
	And then who is the president to be the one who's announcing his death?
	It ought to be local authorities.
	Who's the president to be the one who's announcing the arrest of the suspect?
	I'm telling you, this reflects consciousness of guilt, deliberate effort to manipulate the outcome.
	Why then were they so concerned in distracting attention from a major 9-11 truth conference?
	Nick Collerstrom is here to tell us why.
	My friend, begin.
	Well, it's great to be back here again, Jim.
	And we're going to focus on, in a way, the most difficult aspect of 9-11.
	Not what happened, but who did it.
	I was a founder member of the old 9-11 group in London, in England, and it rolls on until 2010.
	It was a very dynamic, exciting group.
	But it was basically kept with a mantra: 9-11 was an inside job, and it would never accept anything that would be called anti-Semitism, you know.
	So, in a sense, it wouldn't go there.
	What I would argue today wouldn't go to the real central perpetrators of this event.
	It would keep blaming US intelligence.
	And this is, as you're well aware, Jim, it's a Webster Tarpley type perspective.
	He's a brilliant US commentator, wrote the classic book, Synthetic Terror, on 9-11.
	And he would always say, Israel, Israeli spies, whatever, they were just observers, that was all.
	And it was organized within the US military.
	Now, up to a point, as we'll see, it was.
	There certainly were elements, so Rumsfeld and Cheney, who knew it was going to happen, and they were complicit.
	And they were looking forward to what they would get out of it.
	We could put it that way.
	But the total organizer of it, who really did it.
	Okay, next slide.
	Now, about 20 years before it happened, we get remarks in Israel and also a book published by Benjamin Netanyahu talking about what was going to happen.
	In his book, 1996, a nuclear bomb in the basement of the World Trade Center.
	That's what Netanyahu predicted in his book was going to happen.
	And we also get with Netanyahu extraordinary foreknowledge of the London bombing in 2005.
	When he was actually there, he was right there in London, Liverpool Street, where it went off.
	He was there when it went off.
	And he predicted it to get, he likes getting attention of himself just before it happened.
	Okay, so there are stories of Israeli foreknowledge, Israeli Mossad foreknowledge.
	There were various intelligence agencies around the world, quite a lot, who warned America that something is going to happen.
	There'd been a story got out that America better be careful, some sort of strike was going to happen.
	But these various reports didn't know exactly when and didn't know exactly what.
	I think it was only Israeli Mossad sources that seemed to hone in on exactly what was going to happen.
	Okay, next.
	There's only one people in the world, one group of people who were seen rejoicing and glad when the event happened.
	Now, immediately after it happened, pictures of Palestinians rejoicing were shown on television, but it turned out this was from some quite different event.
	Whereas, we'll see there were the five dancing Israelis who were literally rejoicing by the Hudson River.
	And here is what Netanyahu said on the day.
	He said, it's very good.
	Well, not very good, but it will generate immediate sympathy.
	And then some years later, he said, we are benefiting from one thing, and that is the attack on the Twin Towers in the Pentagon.
	And there was a US report saying, there's right after Nalam saying there is no question that Israel is feeling relief after this attack, because it could claim that Muslims had done it, and therefore that they had the same enemy as America.
	That Israel is being severely criticized for the way it treated the Islamic neighbours.
	And if they did this to America, the pressure was off Israel.
	There was sympathy.
	Here's an actual cartoon years later in the newspaper Haretz, which was supposed to be a cartoon, but it was thought of as having gone too far, a plane saying Israel flying into the towers, which might be a bit sort of rather near the bone of what happened.
	Okay, next.
	There's a conversation Sam was having with a director of Mossad in Shimbeth called Issa Haral, a conversation and a well-known author.
	a religious author called Mike Evans.
	He'd written loads of books on Christian Zionism, and he asked about Arab terrorism and would it come to America?
	And Harel replied that Arab terrorists would strike the tallest building in New York City.
	So that Mossad director was in, this was 20 years before it happened, was in on the premonition somehow, the premonition that something was going to happen.
	And the question is, to what extent does that foreknowledge indicate that they were making it happen?
	That's the question.
	Okay, next.
	So the US intelligence analyst George Freeman, the big winner today, intended or not, is the state of Israel.
	There is no question that the Israeli leadership is feeling relief.
	Okay?
	And there were five Israelis who turned out to be Mossad agents who were on just by the Hudson River and on the top, I think it's on top of a lorry.
	They set up photographic equipment pointing at the towers before the impact.
	Okay?
	And this Maria, a news Jersey resident, was watching them and seemed to be how happy they were, like they were taking a movie, exchanging high-fives with each other, and they didn't look shocked.
	So let's follow through what happened.
	That's a key evidence of who did it.
	Okay, next.
	Okay, now Those five were arrested.
	They were in a truck, moving, a moving company and furniture moving, front, front company for Mossad, furniture removal company, and they had trucks, and they were arrested.
	They had lie detectors given to them and failed them.
	In other words, they were lying.
	And then Michael Chertoff was his senior, what was his role, Michael Chertoff?
	Deputy Attorney General.
	Deputy Attorney General.
	He got them, got them off and sent back to Israel.
	His Israeli mother was one of the first Mossad agents.
	So we're going to see this is how the whole event came about for dual citizens who do not have prime loyalty to America.
	Okay.
	Now you see there the symbol of the Mossad intelligence, the fearful, terrible Mossad intelligence agency of the seven branch candlestick.
	And in Hebrew, it's written, by way of deception shall you wage war.
	Now, there's two qualities I'd like you to bear in mind about Israel.
	One is this skill in the art of deception, okay?
	And the other is the official use of terror as a state activity.
	Early prime minister of Israel frankly stated that we use terror as a means to assert ourselves.
	And what they wanted for was endless expansion of the territory, eradicating of their neighbors.
	So terror is the one nation which officially has endorsed terror and which states in its motto that it works through deception.
	So let's bear that in mind as characteristics.
	Okay, now here are the photos which those Israeli agents took.
	Okay.
	And we're not allowed to see them.
	This is a part of one photo when he clicked open a lighter with the towers flaming behind him.
	And you can see pictures of them as they're rejoicing and laughing and clicking open a cigarette lighter.
	And the all important thing, the most important thing stated on the day of 9-11, what was the most important thing?
	Sorry, in relation to 9-11, I think they were asked on television what were they doing there?
	And they said, we were there to record the event.
	Okay.
	So that could be stated on Israeli television.
	They've come all the way to America and New York in order to record what was going to happen.
	Now, there's a question of to what extent does foreknowledge mean that you've arranged the whole thing?
	Obviously, Mossad always likes to show that it's got foreknowledge of these terror events, just to show how good it is, right?
	But it doesn't want to go too far to make you think that it's actually doing the event, which in fact it is.
	Okay, right, next.
	Now, this is the amazing two vans associated with these darks of Israelis.
	Jim, you might want to comment here.
	I think they had explosives in them.
	These were vans from urban moving systems.
	That was an Israeli asset.
	Yeah.
	When the police, because of the report from Liberty State, part from the witness who thought it was so odd apprehended, the officer walked up and the driver said, We are not the problem.
	Our problem.
	The problem is that Palestinians, they inspected the van, they found residue of explosives, they found box cutters, they found passports, they found money, and they rambly had it, as you observed, held for 44 days, failed lie detector tests, and then Michael Chertop released them, they went back to Israel three, went on Israeli television and acknowledged, as you have observed,
	they were there to document the van.
	Right, yeah, yeah.
	Okay, now let's ask the question: why did they want to paint on the side of the lorry an image of what was going to happen?
	I mean, this is if the police weren't kind of somehow petrified of Israelis, this would be enough to ascertain and determine who did the event without any shadow of doubt.
	That goes way beyond foreknowledge.
	They're kind of laughing at us.
	I mean, you might want to say Ole Zamba's view.
	He always says that the perpetrators of these events, to keep their karma clean, their karma, they tell you in advance what they're going to do.
	And if you then don't take any notice, well, you've accepted it.
	And so they're not guilty if they tell you what they're going to do.
	So there is some.
	The theory is they tell you what they're going to do in advance.
	And if you do nothing about it, then you are responsible for what subsequently takes place.
	It's frankly an absurd theory, but I believe that's what they're practicing here.
	Oh, right.
	Yeah.
	Okay, Jim.
	So we've got these two amazing pictures on the vans.
	And what do the police do about it?
	I just repeat what you said.
	I think it's so good that that quote on the morning of 9-11, we are not the problem.
	We're Israelis.
	Your problems are the Palestinians.
	They're your problem.
	So that's a kind of hypnotic technique they're using, right?
	Of just telling the police the conditioning, who is the enemy?
	We're not the enemy.
	We're not the people you want.
	You weren't the Palestinians.
	I think there's a lot to be said of some sort of hypnotism going on.
	The way Israeli Mossad agents exercise control.
	Okay.
	It's rather mysterious.
	Right.
	Next.
	Mind control propaganda, yes.
	Some sort of subtle mind control.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Now, here's Lucky Larry.
	How on earth did he get away with this?
	I mean, it's so mind-boggling.
	If you ask your friends, how many buildings were pulverized on the morning of 9-11?
	Okay, none of them will get it.
	Two buildings fall down.
	Three buildings?
	No, no, no.
	Try again.
	Try again.
	Seven, right?
	All seven buildings, World Trade Center, one, two, three, four, five, six, and seven came or were pulverized.
	Some of them didn't all collapse completely, but they were all had to be destroyed afterwards.
	And whatever it was that did it did it to all of the World Trade Center buildings and all the buildings not owned by Larry Silverstein mysteriously remained upright.
	Okay.
	I mean, does that tell you who did it or what?
	And then Lucky Luck.
	Yeah.
	I completely agree.
	And he was a close personal friend of BB Net, yeah, with whom he had a private conversation every Sunday, Nick.
	Right.
	Every week he ring up this and Yahoo, they had a rap.
	And I believe he was the biggest single fundraiser for Israel.
	As a billionaire, he had big organized groups to support for Israel.
	And so the massive scale, his support for Israel.
	He bought the Twin Towers.
	Sorry, the complex.
	What was that?
	A complex.
	That's all seven buildings only two months before 9/11.
	It was a relatively cheap price because the towers had asbestos problems in, so it couldn't really be solved by anything except pulverizing them.
	And he only came into full control management a week before.
	That is actually six weeks before he took control and he immediately changed the security firm that had been looking after the towers since they first opened in 1970, replaced them with an Israeli firm, renegotiated his insurance contract to include anti-terrorist clause.
	And then, because there were allegedly two planes, claimed double indemnity pocketed four and a half billion on $114 million investment.
	Yeah, right.
	So, uh, it said to me on the same day, I know he picks up the phone.
	The insurance company said he wanted to claim twice because two planes had slammed into the towers, allegedly, right?
	Um, so uh, if that isn't Chutzpa, tell me what it is.
	You know, he canceled his morning breakfast at the top of the North Tower with his daughter, said he got a dentist appointment, you know.
	Dirtle on skin appointment, allegedly.
	But yes, and his daughter did not have breakfast on windows of the world at top of the North Tower, even though that had been their regular practice since acquiring ownership.
	Right.
	Yeah, okay, so I mean, I think I think that's that is one of the most direct clues you got to who did it.
	Um, and let me just say, I just add, um, our publisher, John Paul Leonard of Tree of Life Publications.
	Uh, you see, the insurance companies were European, the big that Larry Silverstein insured them with were European, right?
	And that's why the American, the Mayor of New York and so on, totally supported his claim because they're getting the DOSH from Europe.
	Now, my publisher became a shareholder of one of those big European companies, a huge German insurance company.
	And he said to them, He put in a motion saying, Look, this is total baloney, this claim.
	He's the guy directly responsible for them coming down, so don't pay up.
	Um, well, obviously, I didn't tell you notice, but uh, I'm just pointing out that uh, he got was it about five billion or so to build a new World Trade Center, and uh, uh, he got that from the insurer from the European Insurance Company, which is an absolute disgrace.
	I mean, how utterly shameful of European insurance companies to cough up all that money for what is obviously a fraudulent operation.
	And the plan for the new Freedom Tower were already complete well in advance of 9 Hawaii.
	Oh, right.
	But what you told me, I remember, was that when they tried to build the new buildings over where the old ones had been, they couldn't do it because whatever sort of molecular activity had brought the towers down, whatever it was, exotic technology, it was still in some degree active.
	And so they ended up, they just had ponds.
	There are pools now of water, literally where the old towers were, because something was still a bit too active to rebuild the skyscrapers.
	Yes, and I gather the water has boron in order to, as it were, filter out radioactive elements.
	Very, very telling.
	Yes, sir.
	Wow, that's a good story.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	I just add that all the years, our group would always end up endless debates about what brought the towers down, which never got anywhere.
	None of us really know.
	I just say it's exotic technology.
	The towers turned into hundreds of thousands of tons of fine white powdery dust.
	And please, let's just leave it at that.
	There's nothing worse.
	A listen to debates about what brought the towers down.
	And let's reorient the discussion to who did it.
	Not just endlessly.
	You can go into lots of fascinating detail about which planes went where, who was hijacked, you know, what turned the transponders on and off of the planes.
	And this is what our group always did.
	And just to show that the official account can't be correct.
	Well, we know that.
	We've got that.
	For God's sake, we've sorted that out.
	We've ascertained the rudimentary central fact that of the four crash sites, bought alleged crash sites, not a single one of them has credible wreckage of a passenger aeroplane.
	Okay, so it was all a magic trick.
	It was an optical illusion.
	And let's not go into now exactly, or we don't know, but let's not try and go into how it was all done.
	And can we instead focus on responsibility?
	Okay, here are three characters who've dared at great personal cost to go into the question of who did it.
	Christopher Bollin, I think he had to leave America.
	He was assaulted by the FBI, wasn't he?
	And didn't he have to go to Norway or something?
	But he was very much focused on how Israeli Mossad agents had perpetrated this and what they got out of it.
	In the center, Alan Sobrosky, a top US military guy, he is Jewish, and perhaps that's helped him to get insight into what happened.
	And then back in Little Old England, David Icke, who did one of the best early Alice Wonderland World Trade Center, he's focused very much, as we'll see.
	Here's his whopping great New York Times bestseller a few years ago, New York Times bestseller, and it went into a maze how much he remembered of what happened and who did it.
	Okay, next.
	Just quote Christopher Bollin at every critical point where the events and circumstances of 9-11 should have been investigated and discussed.
	There has been a Zionist, a dedicated devotee of the state of Israel, occupying a key position and acting as the controller and censor of evidence, the gatekeeper of information.
	So Americans, you need to focus deeply on those words and try to, if you can, do something about the nightmare aberration you got in America that 50 million Christians think they've got to support Israel and that it's God's will and got this terrific mental blockage that they can't do anything wrong or you've got to support them.
	Well, no, you haven't.
	They are the only real enemy America has ever had.
	Okay, go back for this, the USS Liberty and before that, the Kennedy assassination.
	And before that, 1930s to the mafia that was primarily Jewish, just before Israel existed.
	You need to understand the only real evident enemy that America has had in the last sort of hundred years or so.
	Okay, right, next.
	Here's what he says.
	It becomes quite obvious that 9-11 and the war on terror are both products of Israeli military intelligence and that the terror atrocity was carried out to kickstart the Zionist war agenda.
	Okay, well, that's what's happened.
	We're now 24 years later, we can see the bombing of, I mean, England, my country, bombed five Islamic nations.
	I don't know how many America has bombed, but the list, a seven-fold list, America has bombed all of them.
	And he says the war on terror is basically an Israeli stratagem developed in 9-7 to deceive the American public into thinking that Israel's enemies are America's enemies.
	That is so true.
	There is no point whatsoever, from the point of view of the benefit of America, in any of these wars we've had in the 21st century.
	Just think of that for a moment.
	Okay?
	I mean, all that ruin, all that finance, all the dead military young men.
	And has America benefited from any of them?
	Think of any country America has bombed.
	It's just getting no cohesion around the world.
	Nick, hold that thought.
	We're on a break.
	We'll be right back with Nick Kohler.
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	My great pleasure to continue with Nicola Stramon who did 9-11, Nick.
	You're featuring Christopher Bolin, Alan Sobroski, and David Icke as truth tellers who got it right from the start.
	Continue.
	Yeah, right.
	I mean, our group didn't, back in Little Old England, our 9-11 Truth group, we couldn't focus on this at all, really.
	It was only after it ended of 2010.
	A lot of 9-11 truth groups broke up then.
	I think individuals started recognizing more and more that we need to get through the smokescreen of what we've been told.
	The initial fallback position, 9-11 inside job, people like David Ray Griffin will publish excellent books.
	You know, just point out an official story isn't true, but that's as far as they went.
	And there comes a point when it's not a lot of point just telling people that.
	That's quite obviously given an absurd narrative.
	The question is: who brought it up?
	Who gave it to us?
	And most important, who did it?
	And obviously, it's related to how was it done, but they're different questions, okay?
	So if you go next, right?
	As I said, the first I mentioned, David Icke, the first one was just looking at Nilem being an inside job and the official story not being true.
	That's what we were all focused on, I would say, the first decade of this century.
	And then this further book, which got the number one of the New York Times bestseller non-fiction list, I thought it was quite remarkable.
	And it goes into great detail what tradition and kind of Jews were involved in doing it.
	He's very, very clear not to say Jews as such.
	And that's very difficult for us, isn't it?
	Jews themselves always refer to us Jews and you read Jewish newspaper, is it good for the Jews, you know?
	But I think it's rather important for us as the Goim, as Gentiles, not just to say Jews in a general sense.
	I think most Jews wouldn't know anything about the planning of this event or wouldn't approve of it.
	It's a particular thread of Talmudic Jews that plotted this.
	And I think various people like Ron Unt, for example, the last anniversary was saying this is what we've got to focus on more, who did it.
	And I suggest current geopolitical events, the catastrophic and ruinous political events we're seeing now show the importance of this.
	If the 9-11 truth movement has succeeded more and had managed to tell America who did it, then we would not be in this ghastly situation where we are now, with Israel just continuing its program of expanding a greater Israel and eradicating its neighbors.
	Okay, next.
	I'll just quote David Icke: evidence that reveals without question the foundation involvement in the attacks of the ultra-Zionist and death cult cabal that controls the state of Israel and operates worldwide.
	The ultra-Zionist agenda of regime change triggered by 9-11 has turned the American taxpayer into a cash cow to fund wars in the Middle East for the benefit of Israel's territorial and acquisitive ambitions while so many Americans sleep in the streets.
	Okay, that's a statement about the ruin of America, isn't it?
	Vast, endless funding, endless military support to a foreign nation while America's infrastructure is disintegrating.
	So this is a statement of a country that does not have sovereignty.
	This is indicating how America has lost its sovereignty.
	And you could say that's what happened with 9-11.
	It was an event which took over the sovereignty of America because Americans were not capable of perceiving what happened or who did it.
	And what it actually did was put a different group of people in charge, as we'll see.
	Okay, next.
	Okay, on the 92nd floor of the First World Trade Center, World Trade Center 1, before the event, here's a group of Mossad agents.
	There were 14 of them who got to rent an apartment and they were not US citizens.
	And there's huge coal boxes you can see all the way along.
	And the number on them, they're bomb detonator fuses.
	Got that?
	And you can see a guy in the middle is blacked out, some sort of agent.
	You can't see who he is.
	They also lift up the took off the roof off the ceiling.
	You can see they built a balcony outside, so they were kind of showing off.
	And they had temporary construction passes for the whole complex months before 9-11.
	Temporary construction passes, so they could go anywhere throughout the building, throughout all the buildings.
	Well, how about that?
	So, and one guy, there's a whole story about art students, Israeli art students that were found to be spies.
	They were around various US military buildings, Department of Defense, and claiming to be just trying to sell artworks.
	And these likewise made that claim.
	But the guy renting this turned out to be an Israeli military intel officer whose bank account was moving hundreds of thousands of dollars.
	So, not quite what you expect of an art student.
	Jim, would you like to comment on this spy ring that was found?
	Yes, they were known as the gelatin group.
	They were conducting performance art outside the buildings.
	In other words, they were actually doing events external to the World Trade Center that attracted a huge amount of attention.
	I mean, it was obviously enormously risky, but as you observed, they had these fuse holders.
	I believe they prepped the buildings to create the cutouts to make it appear as though planes had actually hit the building.
	But more importantly, as you're implying, prepared the demolition throughout the building in anticipation of the event.
	Yeah, right, yeah.
	As you say, Jim, this flat is right next to where either the plane flew in or a cutout made to look as if a plane had flown in.
	So it was at a very strategic point in the first World Trade Center.
	Okay, what about the overall group of art students, Jim?
	Wasn't this the largest spyring ever discovered in America?
	Over 200 Mossad agents were allowed into the United States visas granted by the CIA, which entails their complicity in the events of 9-11.
	So, yes, this was monstrous in that it was all done in such a way.
	Once exposed, it's blatant and obvious what was taking place.
	Yeah, right.
	And for example, the guy called himself Mohamed Atta in Florida.
	He had one of his art students in the same street as him, for example.
	So I think they were quite obviously complicit.
	And Fox News was reporting on this to give it its credit.
	And then it was shut down by AIPAC.
	Various Israeli groups descended on them and said, look, for God's sake, stop reporting this.
	You're destroying us.
	Because of terrific Israeli pressure groups in America.
	And they managed to drop the story and delete the web reports of it.
	So this is a major component of preparation for the event with all these art students.
	I have no doubt these guys were demolition experts, Nick.
	These weren't art students at all.
	Right, right, yeah, yeah.
	Right.
	Okay, Jim.
	Right, next.
	So this is what happened to the spy ring.
	Possibly art students designed to penetrate government facilities.
	How about that?
	And various Department of Defense sites penetrated them.
	And as you say, Jim, they were explosive experts, fine-tapping specialists, electronics experts found to be.
	And so, I mean, how is it possible that America didn't draw conclusions from this?
	And this is the most, if you want to know who did 9-11, what more evidence could you have than this going on from a foreign country?
	You know, what kind of mental process is involved whereby the police don't see this and don't pursue it and close it down?
	What is that mental process?
	Oh, because the government was complicit in participating in the cover-up.
	Sorry, who was complicit?
	The government itself, our own government.
	Yes.
	Right, right, yeah, yeah.
	I think it's terribly important to understand that if you just say 9-11 is our job, then there's a fatal objection to that, that the White House or the CIA or whatever couldn't keep a secret like that.
	There's a book by a White House guy called Against All Enemies.
	I forget his name.
	And he made that point.
	He said, there's no way the White House could keep a big juicy secret like that.
	If the main people organising the event were people like Chani and Rumsfeld, you know, the secret would have leaked out.
	Well, of course it was compartmentalize classified.
	I had a conversation with Holly North on Hannity and Combs in June of 2006 about this.
	But Nick, there have been big projects like the Manhattan Project involved 100,000.
	This is a development of the atomic bomb.
	There were no leaks.
	Yeah, but that was in the wartime, Jim.
	That was a wartime.
	You're motivated by patriotism to keep a secret like that.
	Anyway, I'm just suggesting that it's the unthinkable and unimaginable Israeli control of American assets.
	That is the process whereby it was kept a secret.
	Anyone would know that life would quickly end if they did try to reveal it.
	And most people don't suspect the extent of Israeli control.
	It was very much a computer crime, this with virtual reality images.
	And most people don't understand the extent of Israeli control of that.
	That's a point of profound significance, Nick.
	I agree 100%.
	Right.
	Okay, next.
	Now, this is again, you couldn't have clearer proof from this.
	There's the former Israeli prime minister called Ehud Barak.
	And on the morning of 9-11, where is he?
	Oh, he's in the BBC World Service studio.
	And he's all ready to give the story and tell you who did it.
	And, oh, he, this is half past 11, Eastern Standard Time.
	He twice mentions Bin Laden, right?
	So he already knows who did it.
	And so this was happening in the BBC Studio.
	Also, it's happening at American news outlets.
	That morning, they were kept waffling, oh, bin Laden, some bin Laden.
	And this is the technique of implementing, as it were, almost not subconscious, but putting through a suggestion where people are in a state of shock and trauma.
	The idea that you give them the new narrative.
	You have to give it to them while they're in a state of shock and trauma.
	And this Ehud Barak, he alluded to the rogue nations that will get bombed.
	How about that?
	Iran, Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, North Korea.
	So he's calling for a war on civilization or a war on terror.
	And then, get this, they put underneath his image the number of planes America, number of passengers American Airlines lost.
	It says it lost two planes, one five, six people on board.
	Well, I think that is the first mention of how many passengers were allegedly died from the two American Airlines planes.
	I mean, nobody could have known at that stage.
	Nobody could possibly have known.
	Oh, obviously not how many people had died.
	I would have thought, I would doubt whether anyone could have known.
	Okay, now, where does that list of nations, rogue nations?
	A few weeks later, is it a couple of weeks after 9-11 on the desk of Donald Rumsfeld?
	There appears instructions where this are seven nations that have to be bombed.
	Okay, now, as far as we all knew, that was a couple of weeks later, wasn't it?
	And yet, this guy, oh, fancy that, he already knows what's going to happen.
	And so, the war on terror is going to begin.
	And he's simply telling people of what's going to happen.
	Now, if you think about it, that in itself is conclusive proof about who did it.
	You couldn't have asked for clearer proof about who did the 9-11 operation than this event on BBC.
	Okay?
	Yes.
	Now, I'll just point out the BBC.
	Sorry, the British Intel was not complicit in making 9-11 happen.
	Usually, it works together with America, but this time it was strictly America and Israel.
	If you want a simple statement about who did 9-11, it was international Zionism combined together with US neocons.
	Those two come together at the highest level.
	And at that high level of international Zionism meeting US neocons, that is where the whole thing was gestated and plotted.
	And basically, America and Israel had different but overlapping reasons and motives for making it all happen, which we'll come to.
	And Muslims had no part in perpetrating the 9-11 events.
	That is the simplest statement you can make about 9-11.
	Muslims didn't do it.
	They were trained to fly some planes in Florida, weren't they?
	Simple planes.
	They probably thought they were just training for flying drugs into America or something, Venezuela.
	So they had no skill in flying large passenger planes at all.
	And also, Muslims were not actually on, well, we didn't go to this, but they probably weren't on the planes.
	That's the kind of detail we don't really need to go into now.
	Let's resist it.
	There's always a temptation just to start wobbling on about fascinating details of what happened with 9-11.
	And let's discipline ourselves to focus on the much harder question of who did it and what was the motive for doing it if we're going to try and make our world safe at all and rescue it from endless terrorism.
	As a founder of Scholars for 9-11 Truth, I've done a tremendous amount of collaborative research on all those details.
	But I certainly agree the most important message is who was responsible and why.
	Absolutely.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, right.
	Yeah.
	So, I mean, if anybody was capable of rational, coherent thought, you could still do that.
	Seeing Ehud Barak in the BBC studio there announcing everything.
	I mean, it might remind you a bit of what happened with the London bombing 7-7.
	Tony Blair announced that it was an Islamic crime that same day.
	He said, We know who did this.
	You know, and started telling us about Muslim terrorists before anything could be known.
	So it's part of the philosophy of setting up state fabricated terror that you have to come out with the phantom menace.
	The phantom menace is the mocked-up image of who you're claiming did it, who didn't really do it and doesn't really exist.
	First impressions, it's a function of social psychology.
	They get advice from the best in the business of propaganda.
	And they know that first impression tends to sink in and be the most enduring, even if it subsequently is proven to be false.
	Right, yeah, yeah.
	By the way, Jim, do you know where Netanyahu was on the morning of 9-11?
	Was he doing anything?
	Anything particular?
	Well, he was in very poor health.
	He would have been in Afghanistan, in all probability.
	He was actually an officer in the CIA, Colonel Tim Osman.
	All right, Tim Osman.
	So, okay.
	Well, this is enough now.
	Yeah, Bin Laden here, picture of Bin Laden.
	Here's the enemy image that the Pentagon were using.
	The various of their war plans and war drills.
	Pentagon has a lot of war drills and terror rehearsals, war game rehearsals, let's say.
	And bin Laden set up a campaign.
	What he actually did, it was to keep, it was against the Christian crusaders in the Holy Land.
	That's what he called it.
	That's what he was actually doing.
	Okay.
	He objected to Christians in the Holy Land, American bases, and he was campaigning against that, right?
	And also, he was employed, as you say, Tim Osman earlier on.
	He was employed to build various caves in the Toribora in Afghanistan, Toribora Mountains, to do with stuff the CIA was setting up.
	We didn't go into it.
	So we get this stupendous vaporizing of the towers, which you can see here.
	Something very, very awesome is taking place.
	And the idea that this guy who was actually dying or kidney dialysis towards the end of 2001, he was actually dying of kidney failure.
	And they knew it.
	They knew it.
	And he, well, the last thing he did, put out several statements, three, in fact, that he hadn't done it and he didn't believe in attacking civilians and so on.
	But anyway, that is the fun.
	Let's call it the Phantom Menace that was set up and broadcast to all the world.
	Okay, next.
	Now, let's turn to the other view.
	Was it somehow just stated within America?
	Here you have the card game called the Illuminati Card Game.
	And there's quite a lot of these.
	There's very remarkable images, as it were, predicting what was going to happen.
	That Oli Damagard jokingly says that whenever the Illuminati are going to stage some new event, they just pull a card out from this pack of cards and see what comes next.
	Well, what their 1982 card shows is rather similar to what actually happened, isn't it?
	And does this show that, as Web Society would say, that it was dreamed up within the US military, okay?
	As most books on 9-11 will say.
	Most books will say that, okay?
	Right, next.
	Okay, now look on the right-hand side first.
	June 2001, and you've got images.
	This is a big uh drill, or they call it combined joint training uh for with with various aspects Us military, and there is the bad guy in the middle right and they say, training for unconventional threat.
	Now, what does that mean?
	Um well, it might mean they've got some exotic technology.
	They're gonna show you pretty damn soon.
	Okay now uh, there's the famous remark on 9-11, is this a drill?
	Um that uh, as as the air controller guys were looking at their screens, they see blips going across the screen.
	They shouldn't be there and they'd wonder, is this for real?
	Is this a real terror plane or is it just a drill?
	So that confusion is at the heart of the process whereby uh, a drill, a terror drill rehearsal, morphs into the real thing.
	Right, only very few insiders know that this is happening, but most of all, the operators think it's a drill or they don't know what's going on.
	Now let's look at the left-hand screen here.
	September, the 10th and the 12th, Global Guardian, Vigilant Guardian.
	So this is a big exercise combining various different aspects of the Us military, which you can see, and it's got the same joint unconventional threat, uh, so something unconventional is happening.
	Then it says, continuity training.
	Now, that's a very important concept.
	Uh with, with this live fire terrorist hijacking scenario whoa, so this is really scary stuff.
	You're liable to have live fire and um, is this a drill?
	Um, and what does continuity training mean?
	Well, that was a very big uh uh, American concept that uh, Rumsfeld and Cheney spent a long time preparing for.
	And it's basically in case of a nuclear war that uh, you get a decapitation, your president is gone and the government of the Us continues from underground bunkers.
	Okay, so you get top military brass go into underground bunkers and they simulate as if they are carrying on the government of America after a nuclear war.
	That's what it's supposed to mean.
	Now, it's very important to appreciate that on the morning 9-11, that was enacted, Dick Cheney was hustled down to a bunker and cog continuity of government was switched on.
	What does that mean?
	It means that the president no longer has access to the levers of power, that the power and control of America goes elsewhere.
	And who is really in control of America?
	And then people are asking, some years after, are we still in this situation?
	You know?
	We're on another break.
	My great pleasure having Nicola Strupp from the UK here as my special featured guest on 9-11.
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	Continuing my conversation with Nick Kohlestrom of the UK on 9-11, who was responsible and why.
	Right.
	So, Jim, it's a key feature of your civilization of America ever since its inception.
	It has to have an enemy.
	Part of the energy and dynamism of America, you've got to tell the people who the enemy is.
	And some cultures manage to live without an enemy, but America isn't one of them.
	So, what happened was the projection in the 1990s that they needed a new enemy.
	New enemy was decided to be Islam.
	And we've had a whole massive sequence of state-fabricated terror events in these two decades since 9-11.
	So, 9-11 was the key event blueprinting the new enemy as being Islam.
	Okay.
	So, when you think of Islam, you think of terror.
	That is what the media have done and done it very successfully.
	So, you need to think who controls the media.
	This whole crime could be successful, this arch criminal enterprise, because of the control of the media.
	And I mean, we're seeing this today in a quite horrific manner, both in England as much as in America, the way the media will, you know, will defend Israel.
	I mean, even today, my radio is always sticking up for Israel and dismissing what's happening to the Palestinians.
	This is absolutely appalling control, whoever who's controlling the media.
	And I think that's very central to the 9-11 being successfully perpetrated.
	From Israel's point of view, the main aim was the creation of this enemy, Islam, and enabling it to live and successfully invade and attack Islamic nations.
	And that has been frighteningly successful.
	It all works because the people are fooled.
	The people can be fooled with this technique of state-fabricated terror that you create a bogus phantom enemy.
	And people need to wake up to this.
	We need university courses of political science students to be taught about how this is done and who is doing it and analyze each separate state fabricated terror event.
	It's terribly important for our survival that we stop fighting, imagining the wrong enemy and having pointless wars against the wrong enemy.
	And this is what 9-11.
	I gotta say, what you're discussing here about Webster Tarbly has really led me to reassess who he is and his role here.
	I went out of my way to bring him up to Vancouver for the Vancouver hearings in 2012.
	Yeah, I remember that.
	Yeah, I was there, Jim.
	Yeah, right.
	Yeah.
	Well, he was the only one who held out, Nick.
	He wanted me to fly him up there.
	He won first class.
	He wanted me to cover his hotel.
	He even wanted me to cover his meals.
	And when we were there, he was offering absurd propositions about obscure figures in the military, American military as having been responsible for 9-11.
	It should have said made in television.
	Yeah, well, but he has, surely he has got an argument, Jim.
	His argument, I'll just state what it is.
	He'd go through all the war games leading up to 91 and around 9-11, and he would say, these are organized by the Pentagon and the American military.
	And deceptive operations, these mirror, not mirror, they're an image of what is going to happen on 9-11, and they prepare people for it happening.
	And then on the day, they turn into it.
	So what would you say to that argument, Jim?
	That it's the Pentagon that's been creating these war games and terror drills, and therefore it's brewed up in America.
	That's Webster Tarpley's position.
	Yeah, except it was planned so far in advance that all these war games and so forth were put into place.
	I mean, they were diverting American fighter aircraft from the paths of the alleged, the purported paths of the 9-11 aircraft, Nick, so it couldn't interdict.
	In other words, Dick Cheney was basically the executive director of 9-11 from that bunker beneath the White House, was making sure that no American military would interfere with the orchestrated plot they already had in place.
	I'm sorry to say it looks to me like, well, what Webster is reporting about the drills on 9-11, he's not interpreting them properly.
	I agree.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Yeah, this is indicative of American military cooperation with 9-11, with the Israeli Mossad, with Blivien plotting.
	Yeah, yeah.
	So I recommend this book.
	It's a classic work, a great influence in the whole 9-11 truth movement.
	And it always misses the central point about who did it.
	So I recommend perusing this.
	And this is, as it were, how the truth movement went wrong in the whole of the first decade of its existence, at least from the point of view of the British movement, what I saw.
	And it took us quite a while to get over that and realize, because in a way, he's got a brilliant mind, Webster Darby, and a large historical perspective.
	But he's missing out the key feature.
	That's the important thing, I would say.
	Yes, we agree.
	Okay, next.
	Okay, here are the three guilty men, guilty as hell, Rancel, Bush, Cheney.
	And I suggest there's the distinguished modern American intellectual, Ron Unt, Jewish intellectual, and he analyzed this whole event.
	He said, yeah, it was Israeli Mossad Central.
	And Rancelles and Cheney were in on it, but they didn't have the motive to make the whole thing happen, to kill so many Americans and cause so much ruin to America.
	For example, Rumsfeld benefited from the event.
	For example, the day before, he announced $2.3 trillion had gone missing from the Pentagon.
	It had lost that or gone on black budget stuff.
	At that time, I'll just remind you, nobody had heard of trillions of dollars.
	It's the first time I heard about it.
	And so he announced it the day before, expecting it would be lost in all the news the next day.
	Okay.
	And what he was looking forward to getting 9-11 was his Space Force.
	He got this really exciting, glamorous Space Force.
	So after 9-11, America blueprints this new plan for world domination, which had four aspects of the U.S. military, right?
	It's called full spectrum dominance, land, sea, and space, right?
	So this thrilling new development from the US military could increase funding after 9-11, and he managed to pull that off.
	So I would say from his point of view as the war secretary, that was partly his motive.
	Would you like to have any comment on that, Jim?
	No, no, I quite agree.
	Yeah.
	He announced the missing 2.3 trillion on a Monday, which was very odd.
	Big story like that.
	You announce it early in the week.
	It's going to grow legs.
	An experienced politician would normally announce it Friday before a weekend, hopefully to get buried by other developments.
	But here it was, though, he anticipated an intervening event would justify his waltzing into Congress the following day and asked for billions more in defense spending, which is exactly what happened.
	Yeah, and also people looked up, he was in the Pentagon on that day.
	He kind of knew he was on the safe side of the Pentagon.
	And he was, as it were, showing clairvoyance or foreknowledge of, I think you're going to find this attack about what was going to come and what was going to attack the Pentagon.
	And obviously, if a plane can fly right up the Pentagon, it can't be done from Afghanistan by a Muslim.
	The official account of the plane barely skimming the ground at over 400 miles an hour isn't even aerodynamically possible because of what's known as ground effect.
	As an aeronautical engineer explained to me, that plane at that speed could not have got closer than 60 or even 80 feet to the ground, which is higher than the Pentagon at 71 feet is tall.
	We're looking at a fantasy, Nick.
	We've been sold a fantasy.
	Well, I described 9-11 as a made-for-TV movie.
	Yeah, yeah, right, yeah.
	It was.
	It was a magic trick.
	It was an image where the deaths were real, but the story was baloney.
	And none of the planes actually crashed, so there weren't any passenger deaths with many of the planes.
	There were supposed to be 125 at the Pentagon.
	36 about three dozen were budget experts, financial analysts, accountants.
	So Rumsfeld had them all go into the West Wing with all the documents on the missing 2.3 trillion so they could be taken out by firing a missile into the West Wing and killing them all and destroying the evidence.
	That's how it played out.
	Right, yeah, yeah.
	Okay, so these guys, they all kind of knew that it was coming.
	We'll never know exactly who they thought was doing it.
	But I think we can see that they did, no, they all each had a role to play and they somehow facilitated it and they knew they had to keep quiet afterwards.
	Okay, let's just say that.
	And the all-important thing I'm trying to argue here is that they were not the prime movers of the events.
	Okay.
	I'm puzzled by why Ron Unes wants to exonerate them, claiming they didn't have the motive.
	They had all kinds of motives.
	These were dirty dealers.
	These were not honest brokers.
	It's just like Cheney came from the oil industry.
	They wanted to go in Iraq and steal the oil.
	I mean, that was a powerful motive they had.
	That's true, yeah.
	Oons, who's a pretty sophisticated guy, is incredibly naive in this instance.
	Right.
	Uh-huh.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	So, but next, right.
	Now, this shows while Bush was flying in his plane, President's plane, Air Force One, from Florida, airborne, and he got, or rather, the White House got a threat.
	Angel is next.
	And Cheney was in the White House and took the phone call.
	And that was the code for, which changed every day for the presidential plane.
	Angela is next.
	And that showed that whoever was doing this had access to the highest Pentagon codes, secret codes.
	And when Cheney told Bush that on the plane, Bush, as it were, experienced fear.
	So somebody or the masters of deception, let's call them the masters of deception who ensured this operation were making it clear to the American side that they'd better do exactly what they were told.
	And so I think Bush experienced real fear in the plane, as if there was a threat, might be a threat to his plane.
	And this is just Webster Tartley's comment.
	They were, uh, uh, okay, uh, Here is Mike Ruppert's judgment about Cheney.
	Okay.
	And we come back to the concept of continuity of government, which I mentioned earlier.
	Cheney went to the White House bunker a lot earlier than was said.
	He puts it at 9.15 a.m.
	So he was hustled out very quickly there so they could switch on this new this concept once new government.
	Quote, I have absolutely no doubt that on the day of September the 11th, Richard Cheney was in full and complete control of a properly functioning and parallel command and communications system.
	Okay.
	The late Mike Ruppert was very knowledgeable about these things.
	So that's what continuity of government meant.
	It could be switched over into a bunker.
	It meant that anyone in the White House would not be in control.
	There was a separate, more sort of underground bunker type thing that became CLG.
	Okay.
	Now, Cheney was not himself Jewish, but he sat on the board of Jinsa, the Jewish Institute for National Security, probably the most important organization in terms of influence on Bush and admin policy formation.
	And while he took lead, his office was run by aides known to be very pro-Israel.
	So, okay, let's just leave it at that.
	And he obviously a lot of sense of him being quite a dark character.
	We also have to work through sort of the dark side, if you will.
	And I think he had a reputation for not leaving any notes or records of whatever his office was up to.
	So you couldn't really keep a track on what he was doing.
	Okay.
	Now, this shows what the point was of the whole operation from the point of view of the American military.
	So there is an one side of the story is that the US military caused the 9-11 event to happen or was complicit in it.
	Okay.
	And why did they want it to happen?
	Why would they want to sacrifice their own citizens and their own prosperity and everything with this dreadful event?
	Well, you've got 800 military bases all around the world and the old narrative of fighting communism was gone.
	That went in 1990.
	So the reason that all those military bases were rather exposed then, what were they doing there?
	Could they just pack up and go home?
	Could we have world peace instead, you know, a bit of world peace?
	That's what people were hoping.
	And so from the point of view of the US military, they had to drum up a new enemy image, or at least a new narrative that explained what these military bases were doing all around the world.
	And the quite mad meme, the war against terror, or the war against terror, about one of the maddest concepts you could possibly try to dream up, that became the new explanation of what American military bases were doing all around the world.
	And you can see here what full spectrum dominance was supposed to achieve.
	I mean, thank God this is not working, right?
	Thank God the tide is turning now, 25 years, 24 years later, and American imperialism is now on the wane.
	Yes.
	But this is the aim.
	You can see here.
	Sorry, just go back a minute.
	Yeah, you see for Russia, it's US EUCOM.
	And so it's various names.
	They've divided up the world.
	This is what they imagine full-spectrum dominance is going to achieve.
	And remember, the other president.
	Sorry?
	We have 10 minutes remaining, my friend.
	All right, okay, next.
	Right.
	Lauren Guyna, very profound Frenchman, I recommend his book, JFK 9-11.
	And I'll read it.
	The passionate attachment between Israel and the US has been going on for decades, and 9-11 is one of its monstrous offsprings.
	9-11 was made possible by an alliance between secret worshippers of Israel and corrupted American elements.
	Now, that's about the best statement you're going to get about who did 9-11.
	It's a very good formulation.
	Right.
	Okay.
	So this is, again, it's just, he's just going.
	Caden's assassination was a work of magicians.
	It was a stage trick.
	9-11 was also a stage trick of magicians.
	The same company, I believe.
	Not only did they make New York skyscrapers vanish into a cloud of smoke, magic worlds on Bin Laden, they also made planes appear and then disappear and so on.
	Okay, next.
	93 is followed by the Earth or 77 vaporized, but also 175, which supposedly hit the South Tower in 11, whose single ghostly image was supernaturally captured by the twice Emmy awarded Nade brothers.
	I'd mentioned the word Nade as an anagram of Duane Street, where they were Pharaoh mean.
	They were an Israeli asset, I have, no doubt.
	All right, okay.
	Okay.
	Now, why is old Mike Roper crossing the Rubicon?
	He wrongly thought the oil was coming to an end.
	And he found a compelling case that Israel acted as a partner with US intelligence and financial interests and seeing to it that the attacks of 9-11 were carried out.
	Israel-connected experts formed a core group at the project for a new American century.
	That was the nightmare dream whereby America is the only great imperial power.
	Other powers must not be allowed to form in the world, must be broken up.
	And it's the dream of world domination.
	American military wants to become masters of the universe.
	And thank God it's not happening.
	Right, next.
	And in this book, based upon publicly available sources, Michael Rubert establishes that Dick Cheney was running the shop on 9-11.
	Right, yeah, yeah.
	Okay.
	Now, foreknowledge is a key to who did it.
	US senators were generally warned a week before avoid air travel, but Odigo, the text messaging firm, warned all Israeli nationals.
	It was based just on a corner next to the World Trade Center.
	All nationals warned not to go into the towers that morning within minutes.
	It gave a two-hour advance warning.
	For that reason, no Israeli nationals die as the towers crumbled.
	Okay.
	Now, the main centre of Odego is in a town in Israel next door to Mossad.
	So that is key evidence of being told to keep out the tower.
	You're told by the people who are arranging the towers to be blown up.
	Okay.
	By the way, it's Israeli nationals, not quite the same as saying no Jews died.
	So just be careful about that.
	I think there are one or two visitors who didn't get the warning main Jewish who died.
	Right.
	And then the huge Zim Israel navigation company was in, I think it was at the first tower.
	It moved out a week before breaking a rent contract to do so.
	That's a huge Israeli navigation company.
	So again, that has clearly showed that they know who did it.
	General Wensley Clark was discovered from Rumsfeld this plan.
	America would attack and destroy seven major Muslim countries over the next few years.
	Iraq, Iran, Syria, and Libya, all of Israel's strongest enemies.
	Okay, that's happened.
	Leading supporters of the Palestinians.
	Right, yeah, yeah.
	This is terribly relevant today.
	And it directly echoes the book of Deuteronomy, which says, God says to Israel, I will take out seven nations greater than yourselves, and you've got to utterly destroy them, make no covenant with them.
	So this is clearly an Israeli strategy.
	Clearly comes out of the Old Testament.
	And it's been done, except for, yeah, America's bombed all those countries.
	Iran, the sole remaining survivor.
	So, yes, sole remaining side.
	What's going on in the Middle East today is to finish the job.
	Finishing the job, yeah, yeah.
	So I will say this clearly shows you who's done it.
	The ex-US Italian president put out a calm statement.
	He says, this is common knowledge amongst global intelligence agencies.
	The Nalim Terrorist Record were run by the CIA and Israel Mossad.
	No well.
	The attack was planned and realized from the Mossad with the aid of the Zionist world in order to put under accusation the Arabic countries.
	So that is a simple statement from a top Italian intelligence officer.
	Okay, next.
	Then wise judgment by Alan Sabrosky, he came out and said, you know, this is 100% Mossad operation.
	And he thought that that would have some effect.
	He expected America to respond and react by this clear, conclusive evidence of who did it.
	But obviously, that didn't happen.
	The control is perhaps greater than you realize.
	As Kevin Barrett remarks, Zabroski is so hated by Zionists that mere mention of his name can get you arrested.
	So Press TV got abolished offline from Britain because of it.
	Interviewed Zabroski.
	Okay, that's just another saying by Zabroski about the events.
	It linked treason and treachery in tandem by the people who did it.
	Okay, and here's this wise advice to the people of America.
	Does America want a future?
	Does it hope and believe it has got a future?
	And it's only the power of truth that will give America that future.
	Technology will not do it.
	Military will not protect you because the enemy is, as it were, the illusory illusions planted in your own mind.
	Where we go depends on what kind of legacy we wish to leave to our grandchildren and to posterity.
	The U.S. can be a protector and neighbor and ally, first and last resort.
	So in Israel, few would support if they truly knew what it was and did.
	Or the American people can realize they've been misled and betrayed from within and without, take back their government and treat Israel as the rogue it is, a criminal state we have fostered.
	So I urge all American citizens take that advice of Sabroscu.
	Okay, it's imperative.
	There's nothing more important for the survival of America.
	Okay.
	Well, that's just a remark by English naturalist David Attenborough about the cruelty of Israel, that no other country displays such cruelty.
	Obviously, whoever plotted the events must have, as well as access to amazing high-power technology and control over computer software.
	They bomb schools, hospitals, refugee camps, orphanages, UN feeding station, water work, power plants, ambulances, kids playing on the beach.
	They put millions in siege.
	They shoot children going to school.
	They kidnap kids and harvest their organs.
	They ingest prisoners with disease bathogens before releasing them.
	They murder by land, sea, and air.
	And worst of all, they slander their defenseless victims as terrorists.
	Yeah.
	No other country has such a depth of cruelty or can hardly even imagine such a depth of cruelty.
	So, right.
	Nick, that was absolutely wonderful, my friend.
	I cannot thank you enough.
	Marvelous having you here.
	Meanwhile, everyone, spend as much time as you can with your family and friends and people you love and care about.
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