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May 18, 2025 - Jim Fetzer

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Unwitting Assets: Dr. James Fetzer on 9/11 (17 May 2025)

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	We're fighting a global conflict where one system is trying to change the other system.
	It deals with gaining the objectives short of nuclear war by the various themes that it promulgates.
	What I call a wilderness of mirrors.
	They can have you believe whatever they desire you to believe.
	Joining us now, the co-chairman of Scholars for 9 /11 Truth, Professor Emeritus at the University of Minnesota at Duluth, James Fetzer.
	Professor, thank you so much for being with us.
	First of all, is this a required course?
	Can you hear me?
	Yeah, go ahead.
	Is it a required course?
	Well, you got your facts foxed, I'm sorry to say.
	In fact, I created an organization of faculty and experts to study 9 /11, not to teach in courses, but I must tell you what we have discovered would certainly qualify as material for an important course the universities ought to be teaching.
	I want to be clear here.
	You're not teaching a course in this.
	No, you're confused.
	And I hope that Fox usually does a better job on their research than this.
	But I did create, I created an organization of faculty and scholars to study 9-11.
	And we discovered that practically everything the government has told us about it is false.
	I want to get into that in a moment.
	I just want to be clear.
	So as far as you know, there is no course on 9-11 conspiracy theories being taught at your university or any place else that you know of?
	That's right.
	But it's a great idea.
	I would certainly support having such a course because there's a lot of material to work with.
	All right.
	And what evidence do you have that the government was involved, that Cheney knew, that anybody in the chain of command knew ahead of time that this was going to happen on 9-11?
	Can you give us any piece of evidence that would substantiate that argument?
	Absolutely.
	For example, Norman Mineta testified...
	To the 9 /11 Commission that he observed Dick Cheney in an underground bunker when a young aide came up to him and repeatedly told him, "Sir, it's 50 miles out.
	Sir, it's 30 miles.
	Sir, it's 10 miles out.
	Sir, do the order still stand?" Cheney turned around, jumped on him, nearly bit off his head and said, "Of course the order is still stand.
	Have you heard anything different?" The order had to be to not shoot down the plane that was approaching the Pentagon.
	After all, the order should have been to shoot it down.
	Shooting it down would be the obvious thing to do when you consider that.
	You're going to lose the passengers and the plane if you shoot it down, but if you don't, you're going to use the passengers and the plane and also, of course, all the personnel and property at the target.
	Let me ask you, I want to go back to something in the exchange that you and Alan just had a moment ago.
	In fairness to our producers, when they talked to you earlier, you said that courses are being taught in which these conspiracy theories are advanced to the students.
	Am I correct?
	No, you're not correct.
	What I said to him was, in courses on critical thinking, sometimes issues related to, for example, tax cuts or global warming or reasons for going to war in Iraq might be discussed as examples, but I know of no courses as such that are being taught that way.
	So let me ask, how big is this group of professors that you've put together, this organization you've formed, that gives credence, if you will, to the theory you just advanced about 9-11?
	Well, there are over 300 members, Colonel North, including about 200 with advanced research skills, and about 85 that have affiliations, including physicists, mechanical engineers, pilots, aeronautical engineers.
	We've discovered that the Twin Towers were brought down by controlled demolition.
	We've discovered that the Osama bin Laden appears to have had nothing to do with it.
	Help me out here.
	Having been involved in a couple of controversial undertakings over my years in government service, How many people in the government were part of this conspiracy that you envision?
	Hundreds?
	Thousands?
	No, no, Ali.
	I think it's a small number.
	You know about classified, controlled operations where everything's compartmentalized.
	Do you know, Ali, that the FBI has confirmed that they have no hard evidence relating Osama bin Laden to the events of 9-11?
	Are you aware of that?
	Well, Osama bin Laden himself claims that.
	I mean, they didn't manufacture those tapes.
	This is the FBI, Ali.
	This is the FBI that has affirmed in the last couple of weeks they have no hard evidence tying Osama bin Laden to 9-11.
	And so all of these people that died on 9-11 Welcome to Unwitting Assets.
	Today, Dr. Jim Fetzer is going to join me to discuss one of the darkest days of my adult life, and that is the events that happened on 9-11.
	So please welcome Dr. James Fetzer.
	It's just a delight to join you again.
	I think you do such good work.
	It's my pleasure to be here today.
	I think what we want to do, James, is to go back to the events.
	If you were just watching television on 9-11, what you might have experienced that very day.
	No second plane.
	It was a bomb.
	Bomb in another building, not second plane.
	It was a bomb.
	Who said the second plane?
	That's what we're told.
	The second plane, we saw it on television.
	All right.
	Thanks a lot.
	This is...
	...how much of the plane actually impacted the building.
	You know, it might have appeared that way, but from my close-up inspection, there's no evidence of a plane having crashed anywhere near the Pentagon.
	The only sight is the actual...
	The side of the building that's crashed in, and as I said, the only pieces left that you can see are small enough that you could pick up in your hand.
	There are no large tail sections, wing sections, fuselage, nothing like that anywhere around, which would indicate that the entire plane crashed into the side of the Pentagon and then caused the side to collapse.
	Now, even though if you look at the pictures of the Pentagon, you see that the floors have all collapsed.
	That didn't happen immediately.
	It wasn't until almost about 45 minutes later.
	That the structure was weakened enough that all of the floors collapsed.
	Jeff, it's a United Airlines plane.
	It's believed to be at that site outside Pittsburgh, isn't it?
	That's exactly right, John, with 45 people total on board.
	And one of the more profound things today, the imprint of terrorism seared not only on Wall Street but also on Main Street.
	Here you have an area 80 miles to the southeast of Pittsburgh in this plane which went down at about 10 o 'clock this morning.
	We have rescue vehicles that came in earlier in the day and they have turned up nothing.
	No one believed to be alive from this crash.
	Some of the media just getting back to the scene which is about...
	A quarter of a mile up on a hill back behind me, and so some of the first pictures just starting to come in within the last hour.
	I want to get quickly to Chris Kanicki.
	He's a photographer with the Pittsburgh affiliate, a Fox affiliate.
	He was back there just a couple of minutes ago, and Chris, I've seen the pictures.
	It looks like there's nothing there except for a hole in the ground.
	Basically, that's right.
	The only thing you could see from where we were was a big gouge in the earth and some broken trees.
	We could see some people working, walking around in the area, but from where we could see, there wasn't much left.
	Any large pieces of debris at all?
	No, there was nothing that you could distinguish that a plane had crashed there.
	Smoke?
	Fire?
	Nothing.
	It was absolutely quiet.
	It was actually very quiet.
	Nothing going on down there.
	No smoke, no fire.
	Just a couple of people walking around.
	They look like part of the NTSB crew walking around looking at the pieces.
	How big would you say that hole was?
	From my estimates, I would guess it was probably about 20 to 15 feet long and probably about 10 feet wide.
	What could you see on the ground, if anything, other than dirt and ash?
	You couldn't see anything.
	You could just see dirt, ash, and people walking around, broken trees.
	Oakland says that City Hall in Oakland will remain open.
	It will be business as usual.
	He is urging people to remain calm.
	Given what is going on, remain calm.
	Oakland City Hall will remain open.
	But in San Francisco, City Hall has been closed.
	We're also just getting word here now that a second United Airlines jet, Flight 175, from Boston to Los Angeles, is now missing again.
	If you're just joining us, there have been four separate plane crashes.
	Three of those planes were en route to California.
	Two were heading to LAX.
	The third was heading to San Francisco International Airport.
	That was specifically the one heading to SFO United, flight number 93 from Newark to SFO.
	It apparently crashed in Pennsylvania, fairly close to the border of Maryland and not too far from Camp David.
	Why is that significant?
	One of the groups possibly claiming responsibility for all these terrorist attacks is the Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine.
	And it was this week, in 1978, that the Camp David Accords were reached.
	Is there a connection?
	At this point, we don't know, but it is important to be aware of that situation.
	In Washington, D.C., many congressional leaders have been transferred to a secret location.
	Some senators have described this as a second...
	Pearl Harbor.
	And President Bush was in Florida this morning, but he made a brief announcement when the first attacks were clear on the World Trade Center and he was heading back to Washington, D.C. At this point, we don't know exactly where he is.
	They're not really broadcasting that information, but we are told that the president is safe right now.
	We're waiting for a press conference to start in San Francisco from the Office of Emergency Services to discuss what the situation, what the city's reaction to all of this is going to be.
	But again, right now in San Francisco.
	Wow.
	Wow.
	Let's talk about what we've just seen, James, because there are a lot of clues in there.
	In retrospect, they're not to be so...
	Terribly important, but we're utterly missed.
	Now, number one, you got the Shanksville, and there's no sign of any plane being there at all.
	In fact, we have two reporters later say that the early aspect of the plane crash site is that there's no sign that any plane crashed there, and that's because no plane crashed there.
	Then you got Jamie McIntyre, who was CNN's best reporter.
	He's at the Pentagon.
	He's saying, from my close-up inspection, he's on the scene.
	There's no sign of any plane having crashed anywhere near the Pentagon.
	And that's because no plane hit the Pentagon.
	I mean, there it is.
	He's saying it.
	We got the stuff from New York, and they're talking about...
	It says, I think it's supposed to be the popular front for the liberation of Palestine.
	I think these guys had nothing to do with it.
	I mean, the propaganda themes are coming out already.
	And they're talking about, you know, Camp David.
	The Palestinians, my goodness, they would have had no prospect whatsoever of pulling off a complex operation like this.
	So they got all these hops.
	And of course, the very first...
	You've got a witness at the scene saying, no plane had bombed.
	And the reporter there says, no, no, no plane.
	We saw it on television.
	That's the key.
	A single stream.
	I don't know if you ever saw Capricorn 1. Capricorn 1 about taking a moon landing.
	You know, it's got a great cast, James Brolin and even O.J. Simpson.
	I was about to see O.J.'s in it.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, he is.
	Well, they fake a trip to Mars, and they do it using a single grainy feed, and they're manipulating.
	Well, that's what happened here on 9-11.
	Single grainy feed, manipulated, what they want to say.
	It's typical.
	I mean, this is the, you know, not to anticipate the bottom line, but Israeli ops, they always blame the Palestinians.
	Yeah, it's a little...
	Giveaway, huh?
	Yeah, perfect illustration.
	RFK.
	They blame Serhan Serhan why he was a Palestinian.
	I was thinking the same thing.
	I'm telling you.
	Yeah, I mean, Israel had a larger role in taking out Bobby than they had in taking out Jack.
	There was an Israeli shooter in Dallas, but there were seven others.
	I mean, you know, it's...
	I didn't know there were that many Palestinians per capita in the United States that...
	You know, the odds would be that that would be the person that takes the rap for shooting Bobby Kennedy.
	And did you notice in that clip, the CNN clip, I think, she said, some are calling it the second Pearl Harbor.
	Right.
	Those talking points are in there.
	That was the whole thing.
	Exactly, James.
	Exactly.
	That's right.
	That was so important.
	We should begin here, see?
	Because right there, these themes are being pushed right off the bat.
	Second Pearl Harbor, give me a...
	Give me a break, you know.
	And of course, it's all distraction.
	It's all to be misleading.
	But there you had witnesses.
	Look at the reporters, the real reporters, the guy there at the World Trade Center.
	No plane bombs.
	He had it right.
	Bombs.
	The guy in Shanksville.
	No sign of any plane having crashed there.
	Jamie McIntyre at the Pentagon, no sign of any plane having crashed anywhere near the Pentagon.
	And then the theme, oh yeah, it has to be the Palestinians do this very complex high tech-off.
	Are you shitting me?
	They wouldn't have the motive.
	It's just ridiculous.
	Do you remember Benjamin Netanyahu?
	Say again?
	I think Benjamin Netanyahu on that, he said, this is very good for us.
	Oh, yeah, he would say subsequently, right.
	This is very good for us.
	Oh, I don't mean, I only mean, now you know what it's like for us in Israel.
	It was an Israeli op, but maybe Netanyahu and Ehud Ulmer were the brain trust behind it.
	They contrived this in order to motivate America to send U.S. forces to the Middle East.
	To take out the modern Arab state that served as a counterbalance to Israel's domination of the entire region.
	This was an Israeli op.
	There were like 200 Mossad agents in New York.
	Actually, James, it was a big plan.
	They were not only going to take down the Twin Towers, they were going to blow up the Lincoln Tunnel, the Holland Tunnel, the Brooklyn Bridge.
	They were going to isolate Manhattan as an island.
	It was a much bigger op.
	But because NYPD were so damn good, they were able to stop them, arrest them.
	You know, a lot of it had to do with this Liberty State Park in Jersey across the Hudson, where these five Israelis were filming the destruction of the Twin Towers.
	And, you know, a woman said, this is very strange.
	They're high-fiving.
	They're taking selfies.
	I mean, why would they be doing that?
	It's interesting that the technology...
	Go ahead.
	Do you remember...
	We didn't have the phones we have now.
	And so a lot of people...
	Wonder, like, was it documented?
	Did everybody take out their cell phone?
	Like, no, people didn't have...
	They weren't ubiquitous at that time, similar to not being on airplanes for the same reason.
	Yeah.
	Well, the so-called...
	What cell phones or where couldn't have operated?
	A.K. Dudney from Western Ontario is a professor of computer science.
	Took three different types of cell phones.
	Because we had these alleged recordings between the passengers and their friends or relatives, and he found that at speeds over 200 miles an hour or altitudes above 2,000 feet, they wouldn't work because the relay towers couldn't transfer the messages fast enough from one relay tower to another.
	So all those cell phone calls that were supposed to be such an important part were phony.
	They were fabricated.
	They were done in advance.
	The whole thing was very carefully crafted.
	And I'm my candidate for the guy who did it.
	His name is Philip Zelikow.
	He's a professor of history at UVA, which I find rather touching because I taught at UVA twice.
	And he had as his area of specialization, the creation and maintenance of public myth.
	Public myth.
	Public myth.
	So he wrote the script, and then when Henry Kissinger declined because he didn't want to reveal all his financial entanglements, they put Philip Zelikow in charge of the 9-11 Commission.
	Who better to maintain the myth than the guy who wrote it?
	He had a draft of their report a year before he shared it with any member of the staff because he had created it!
	I'm convinced it is a guy who gave us a script for 9-11 and they put him in charge of the 9-11 commission, James.
	That's how it's done.
	This ushered in a dark era.
	That was the idea from the planning perspective to have a moment like a Pearl Harbor that bifurcates the timeline into before and after.
	So after we're mobilized for war, right?
	We stir up jingoism.
	And we claim falsely it was an intel failure, so we have to reorganize the government, the Patriot Act, which basically dramatically limits our freedoms, our civil liberties.
	It takes 35 independent federal agencies and consolidates them in this mammoth Department of Homeland Security.
	The plan, James, was based on the Stasi, which was a German...
	Secret East German service that were the most effective.
	So we brought the German Stasi to America by way of 9-11.
	And now we have, and this is wonderful, this Rembrandt of Luna, who looks like a pretty tip-of-the-spear person, good, calling for repealing the Patriot Act.
	That would be the best thing we could do, repeal the Patriot Act, get rid of that mother.
	Because it compromised the Constitution and all of our rights.
	Get rid of it.
	And Trump should get rid of all the emergency.
	You know, we're still operating under emergency.
	The TSA?
	Flying used to be fun, right?
	Yeah.
	Before 9-11.
	Yeah, they've been eroding our freedoms.
	And Department of Homeland Security, by the way, Gets itself in other problems.
	There was somebody, and this could only be anecdotal, but somebody that I know well said that they were involved in instigating some of the 2020 shenanigans and riots.
	You know, it wasn't the FBI.
	It was Homeland Security.
	And it's become this behemoth in the days since 9-11.
	I mean, an entire new infrastructure.
	But I think you nailed it when you said that this was a movie engineered, created, written, edited for the American public to watch.
	And then we see this later on.
	Now they really just do things with that tool.
	Now we know about Operation Mockingbird or things like that, but it's very...
	I don't know how many people...
	I think that all these news stations could be in on it.
	Would it be that they're just getting a common feed?
	Oh, look, look, look, look.
	Zionists, Israel, Rothschilds, oh, they own Reuters.
	Right.
	So virtually all the news stories, except for local, are filtered through a Zionist lens.
	I mean, we do not have a free press.
	Some newspapers, like the New York Times, Sometimes called the Jew-Nork Times.
	You know, they're just publishing propaganda.
	And what's tragic, James, is the New York Times is officially our nation's newspaper record.
	And what's published in the New York Times is supposed to be the official history of the United States.
	And it's rubbish!
	It is.
	Rubbish!
	Rubbish!
	I had friends when I was teaching at the University of Kentucky, my first academic position in the early 1970s.
	I was dating and actually became engaged to a gal who was a PhD student in clinical psychology.
	She was addicted to the New York Times.
	She couldn't have a day without the New York Times.
	She'd read page after page, every single page.
	And, you know, I never...
	Quite fell for it.
	But I mean, it was, at the time, regarded as completely authoritative.
	And I guarantee you now it's become nothing but a Zionist propaganda reg.
	Bad, bad.
	All since 9 /11.
	And of course, there was JFK.
	They were participating in the conference.
	But that was huge.
	That was huge.
	CIA had people everywhere.
	They were convincing him Jack was a communist.
	They had to take him out.
	And they had to keep seal it.
	They had to blame it on a lone gunman.
	And I'm telling you, the whole thing was a crock, man.
	I mean, they come up with a cover story.
	Like, we're supposed to have 19 Islamic terrorists commandeer these four planes.
	You know, when Alex Jones at his American Scholars Conference in June of 2006, he actually had me as a keynote speaker.
	And during the C-SPAN, they had this panel discussion with four members of Scholars for 9-11 Truth, which I founded in December, which had taken off like a rocket, brought in hundreds of experts from all around the world.
	And my part of that was on the top ten reasons we know the hijackers are fake.
	And one of my reasons, Americans would have beaten them to death with their luggage.
	I mean, you know, the whole thing was a crock.
	It was so ridiculous, James.
	So ridiculous.
	Did you know that Alex Jones' father was very tight and worked for LBJ?
	Well, see, LBJ was the originator of the...
	I just think it's interesting.
	As you know, yeah.
	But you have...
	One thing before, because I know you have a wonderful set of slides.
	What's interesting is what also happened after this date in terms of Russia.
	We broke a lot of our agreements and we started to have NATO encroach to the east, you know, breaking our deal that we wouldn't do that.
	And, you know, the Cold War was over and military industrial complex needs a new boogeyman, right?
	And I'm just curious.
	And Putin just rises to power around that time frame, too.
	All very interesting.
	And we famously used Osama bin Laden in the 80s, right?
	He was a CIA asset that we used against to drive the Soviets out of Afghanistan.
	And it's weird.
	And so then we create our own folly by going in there.
	So I just think it's interesting.
	And I wonder...
	Yeah.
	Like...
	I'm just curious.
	Putin might not have had a lot of power at first, but developed it over time, knowing that we were not a reliable partner.
	So they had to start thinking long-term about...
	The well-being of their people from their perspective.
	But I always wondered why NATO continued after the wall fell and we were allegedly good neighbors with Russia, what used to be the Eastern Bloc, right?
	You're making such a telling point here.
	I think NATO...
	With the fall of the Soviet Union was converted from an offensive alliance to a prospectively offensive attack on Russia.
	They want to carve up Russia.
	Russia has the greatest resources in the world.
	We like to balkanize nations because then they are less of a threat than when they are all centralized.
	Look, Putin inadvertently, I don't think he's just said this, said the wealth, the national resources of Russia were $88 trillion in value.
	Wow.
	Man, they got every banker salivating over that.
	The West, which is going poor and running out of steam and shooting itself in the foot, would like nothing better than to chop up Russia.
	There are even maps out there, James, where you can see where Russia has been divided to seven or eight different regions or states.
	There's some where it's chopped up even more.
	They want it.
	I'd say Russia was extraordinarily fortunate to have a leader of the quality of Vladimir Putin, who's a highly intelligent, geopolitically savvy.
	Deep thinker.
	He is, in my judgment, the only true statesman that stride the world stage today.
	And Russia is fortunate to have him.
	And because Russia doesn't have capitalism, doesn't have contractors, private companies like Boeing, Raytheon, General Dynamics, producing weapons where they deliberately put out substandards so they get maintenance contracts and double or triple their profits.
	The Russian military complex has been sensational and developed the best weapons in the world today, both offensively and defensively, and we have nothing to compare.
	And I say, Russian people can thank God for Vladimir Putin, if only we had a leader of his caliber.
	Right.
	And he's got such institutional knowledge, you know, for being in the KGB before the Soviets fell.
	He's been in charge over there through many of our administrations.
	So he's got this institutional knowledge that will go away when he does.
	You know, I can't think of a Western equivalent that's got that legacy from so far back.
	Yeah, yes.
	Yes, I agree.
	But I also, you know, I think...
	He is trying to make goodwill gestures, and, you know, we witnessed in Ukraine, again, you just mentioned all these defense contractors.
	Sometimes I wonder if, you know, there's a lot of money laundering and weapons sales going on.
	it's there's almost a little bit like the operation gladio itself kind of um changed its um skin in the same way that you said um it nato morphed into something else um because nato was always really responsible for a lot of those um you know our narco trafficking we you know um using the vatican bank um or other things and i think something happened um whether pivoted to turkey
	I'm not sure, but it's just interesting.
	The dark side of our history continues on.
	So let's go to your slides, Jim.
	Sure, James, James.
	I'm kind of tickled about all this because all the slides I'm going to present are going to substantiate themes we've already established and the extent to which they had to go to fabricate.
	It was like JFK.
	They had to create a scenario that was so complicated that if you actually figured out how they did it.
	You'd look like you were a nut.
	But that's how they did it.
	You know, it's a question of how far you go in your research.
	For example, it was when I started to identify each of the shooters, the shots they'd taken and the effect they'd had, and I realized, well, my goodness, this guy's a Dallas deputy sheriff.
	This guy is an Air Force expert.
	This guy is a mob shooter.
	This guy's an anti-Castro-Cuban.
	I realized what they had was a master plan with sponsors, each of whom put up their own shooter.
	And when you come to 9-11, it was just so complicated how they did it all to create the idea, the false impression this was a new Pearl Harbor, and where they had set it all up by transferring the World Trade Center to private hands of a prominent Zionist,
	a personal friend of Bibi, Netanyahu, Larry Silverstein, where the New York Port Authority was dominated by Zionists.
	They were all in on it.
	They wanted to get it out of public into private just six weeks before the event happened.
	So he fires a security firm that's been looking after.
	The World Trade Center, since it first opened in 1970, replaced him with a Jewish firm, redoes his insurance policy, so it includes anti-terrorist clause, so when there are two planes, he can claim two attacks, and got double indemnity, pocketing like $4.5 billion on $114 million investment.
	They say they don't call him Lucky Larry for nothing.
	I want to add something for the viewers, just for nuance.
	When we're talking about Israel with different people, there are a lot of amazing Jewish people in Israel that also do not like...
	Whenever Benjamin Yetinyahu gets into power, or before or right after, things tend to happen.
	But there were...
	There are people that want reform in that nation in the way that we want reform in our nation when we talk about our CIA or what have you.
	And I'll give you an example.
	Yitzhak Rabin, the prime minister who was assassinated, he wanted to support a Palestinian state, right?
	Yes.
	And so there was the clean break document, and these were the neoconservatives that came into power.
	And they wanted, the clean break was away from the Oslo Accords, the idea of giving the Palestinians a state, and in a similar way that there was reform movements in the, like before in the 80s and the 90s, I believe.
	But these hardliners, these, you know, I would call them fascists in a way, but, you know, it's just, it's their form of fascism.
	And so the clean break was to go away from the peace process with, you know, and so look at what we're living through today with Gaza.
	And it breaks my heart.
	And Rabin was a good guy, a man of principled integrity.
	They let the assassin walk right up behind him within his security team.
	I mean, they let him.
	Shoot him in the back of the head.
	They'd let it happen.
	Just like the Secret Service was involved in JFK.
	They, you know, they left two agents behind in Lovefield.
	They put the vehicles in the wrong order.
	They didn't weld the manhole covers.
	They left the windows open.
	They let the crowds fill into the street.
	It was a total setup.
	Total setup in both cases.
	They're taking basically peace candidates, peace guys, and wiping them out.
	So they can move forward with their war plans.
	In this case, it was Vietnam.
	And now, of course, we got Mimi on the verge of finishing the job with the Palestinians, the slaughter.
	And, you know, 9-11 was used to justify, just as they did October 7, which was another stage event where the Israelis were killing other Israelis to run up the number.
	But it's so totally disproportional.
	You know, you've got the slaughter of the Palestinians and, you know, the publicly reported genocide videos every single day.
	It's had a tremendous cumulative impact, James.
	Absolutely.
	The irony.
	You know, when George Bush said, they hate us for our freedoms.
	It's just a way of our freedoms.
	In the wake of this, what we would do is want to show the world that we are not going to get rid of our freedoms, right?
	Mysteriously, we bring down the Panopticon.
	Yep, that's right.
	And it's definitely something that the new generation will have to revisit.
	It was to my generation what JFK might have been to yours.
	Yes, yes.
	You know, there's talk of, you know, when they talk about releasing certain files or declassifying things, I sometimes wonder when something's on this level, this big, you know, to have that transparency, the state of Israel would not be allowed to exist, in my opinion.
	And so I'm not making an editorial.
	I'm just saying if...
	And I don't think it was just Israel, by the way.
	It was definitely elements within our national security apparatus.
	A secret government, if you will.
	So let's get into your slides, Jim.
	I mean, in my book, I mean, it's compliments of the CIA, the neocons, and the DOD, and the Mossad.
	Yeah, here we got the four flights, and would you believe the same Israeli security team was doing security at all the airports from which I originated?
	These are funny flight paths, and we'll get into each of them individually, but the key here is just to recognize how Israel was involved in every aspect of this whole operation.
	Next.
	Okay.
	So here we are in Shanksville, right?
	You saw a similar image.
	Did you get that dimension he was saying?
	Well, it was like maybe 15 or 20 feet by 10 of the plane.
	The plane had a 125-foot wingspan.
	It had a tail that's 40 feet above, and there's no damage.
	Keep going.
	Keep going.
	I mean, there's no parts.
	So this is what it should look like.
	Yeah, your real crash is Amsterdam, Missouri, Russia, Shanksville.
	In fact, that smoke, I even think that smoke was added.
	You're barbecuing right there.
	Yeah, that's right.
	Bratwurst.
	This is actually a gift that's not plane, but the claim is a plane disappeared into an abandoned mine shaft.
	I mean, it's just absurd.
	So, no, stay there a second.
	Okay.
	Whoops.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Abandoned mine shafts.
	Well, we know what to do with miners who are trapped in abandoned mine shafts.
	We break out the heavy equipment and the bright lights and dig 24-7, and we might recover.
	Well, in this case, We didn't even make any effort to recover the bodies.
	I mean, that's just absurd.
	Talk about a tell.
	Ridiculous, James.
	Now, yeah, now you can go forward.
	So, turns out that pilots for 9-11 Truth were completely brilliant.
	They traced air ground communications and found that the plane used for this flight was over Champaign-Urbana after it officially crashed in Shanksville.
	Over Champaign-Urbana!
	Well, obviously, that's a problem.
	Go right ahead.
	I think you might be able to activate them, too, on your side, just in case.
	Oh, that would be good, because I think we missed one or two, but the fact we talked about Chris Konecki, we already did.
	Well, the Pentagon only released five frames.
	You've got to understand now, the Pentagon is the most heavily surveilled building in the world, okay?
	They've got cameras everywhere.
	If they wanted us to know what had happened, they could have done it.
	Instead, they released only five frames.
	And notice the very first conveniently labeled plane.
	And right here above this gate mechanism, you have a white plume.
	And what could possibly be a plane?
	Pilots and engineers have told me a white plume is not what you get from jet exhaust.
	That would be black.
	But it could be from a missile being fired into the building.
	And you notice here we have this growing explosion that's supposed to have taken place.
	But will a leader find evidence to believe that that wasn't even real either?
	Keep going.
	Next.
	So here I asked a friend, Jack White, who is legendary for his work on JFK, to scale the image of a Boeing 757.
	And in Shanksville and Pentagon, it was supposed to be 757s.
	New York, 767s.
	And look at that.
	The plane is so much larger if it had been a 757.
	Obviously, it wasn't a 757.
	In fact, it doesn't even appear to have been a commercial liner.
	Go to the next.
	You'll see Jamie Magnum.
	Yeah, here's the hit point.
	Okay, it's about 10 feet high, 16, 17 feet wide.
	There are two automobiles in the foreground, two spools, a cable.
	Some unbroken windows.
	Well, what you don't have is a massive pile of aluminum debris from a 100-ton airliner.
	You don't have bodies.
	You don't have luggage.
	You don't have wings.
	You don't have tails.
	You don't have seats.
	Engines are made of strong material.
	You'd have engines.
	Yeah, of course.
	The engines are virtually indestructible.
	Not even the engines were recovered from the Pentagon.
	Next.
	Okie doke.
	Yeah, now here you have these lime green civilian firetruck just happened to be in the area, and they came in to put out the very modest fires.
	But look at the lawn.
	It's perfectly breathed.
	There's no debris there whatsoever.
	And you'll discover how important that is as evidence that the whole thing was a sham at the Pentagon, just as it was at Shanksville.
	Here's what's supposed to have happened.
	A plane is supposed to have taken this fantastic spiral descent that professional pilots say they couldn't have done, and it was supposed to have been done by this handy-hand juror who couldn't even fly a Cessna.
	So, I mean, the whole story, the cast of characters, is absurd.
	But it's supposed to have come in just barely skimming the ground at over 400 miles an hour to hit.
	And any engine...
	A plane traveling at that altitude would have torn up the lawn.
	But it turns out it's not even possible.
	Aeronautical engineers explain to me.
	Because of what's known as downdraft, or the plane couldn't have got, that plane at that speed couldn't have got closer than 60 or even 80 feet to the ground, which is higher than the Pentagon at 71 feet is tall.
	So we're talking about an aeronomically impossible event, just like the magic bullet for JFK.
	Spinal vertebrae, cervical vertebrae intervening.
	It wasn't even anatomically possible for a bullet to enter here and exit here.
	Similarly, it's not even possible for this plane to have had this trajectory, that speed and altitude.
	Next.
	Here we actually have what happened.
	It appears to have been a global Hawk unmanned aerial vehicle that fired a missile into the Pentagon, into the West Wing.
	Donald Rumsfeld announced the day before that the Pentagon was missing $2.3 trillion, and he directed the section chief to come with all the documents and records and the accountants and the budget experts.
	So when I looked at the casualty list, 125 with the Pentagon, and found three dozen accountants and budget experts, I knew something was really wildly wrong.
	And it was as though Rumsfeld knew something were going to intervene.
	And the public would just be distraught and forget about the missing $2.3 trillion so we could waltz into Congress and ask for hundreds of billions more in defense spending, which is exactly what happened.
	Next.
	So here is supposed to be the official trajectory taking out these lampposts.
	One, two, three, four, five, six lampposts.
	Well, the effect of a plane traveling over 400 miles an hour hitting the lampposts Which are stationary.
	It's the same as if the plane had been stationary, hit by Lambos traveling over 400 miles an hour.
	That's right.
	Ripped open the wing, it would have mixed with air and exploded.
	There would have been debris all over, cartwheeled all over the lawn.
	But you notice, there wasn't any debris.
	That means it didn't happen.
	That means we're being told a tall tale.
	Bullshit.
	By any other name.
	Next.
	Yeah.
	And there you got...
	Jamie McIntyre explaining from his close-up inspection, there's no sign of a plane having hit anywhere near the Pentagon.
	He got it exactly right.
	And those little pieces he said he could hold in his air were from the Global Hawk, which is made of synthetic material.
	So when the Global Hawk actually hit the building, it just dissolved into little tiny pieces you could hold in your hand, just as he explained.
	Next.
	Now, this is most interesting.
	This is one piece of debris.
	It's actually from a 757 found on the lawn of the Pentagon, but it wasn't there originally.
	This didn't show up for 45, 50 minutes.
	And guess what?
	There are particular features here.
	Notice, it's not all crunched up, as you'd expect from a violent collision.
	It's more like it's been peeled off.
	There are no signs of being subjected to an intense fire, as we saw from those flames, right?
	Notice here, we have a segment of Vine, not indigenous to the Arlington, Virginia area next, so that there's an attorney, attorney from Columbus, Ohio, who recognized, you know, 757, very safe aircraft, very few crashes, tracked this debris back to American Airlines 965 near Cali, Columbia in 1995 where it crashed, and guess what?
	An Israeli firm did the salvage.
	And what happened here is the pilots lost track and plowed through a jungle where these vines grow in abundance.
	They had the side of a mountain, and the Israelis salvaged it.
	So they could, well, you know, have it around, just happen to put it on the Pentagon lawn.
	And here it turns out now, Edward Hendry, very, very smart guy.
	Realize that the Bureau of Transportation Statistics keeps records of every commercial flight in the United States.
	Takeoff, landing, you know, gate time, wheels up, wheels down.
	But for flight 11, I mean 77, there was no record.
	Because the flight never took off, the flight was not even in the air.
	Unlike 93, which was over Champagne or Vanda.
	Flight 11 was never in the air.
	Now, they did fly a plane toward the Pentagon.
	It wasn't Flight 11. And then it swirped over the Pentagon just before this explosion, you know, from a missile hitting took place.
	So that was very clever.
	Do you remember back people arguing about this?
	There were the people that were like, of course, I saw a plane.
	And it's like, yeah, I think it flew over.
	That's what you saw.
	That's right.
	Remember the gas station?
	They were different interviewed communities.
	I got a friend from 9 /11 from JFK Research.
	Go back.
	I got a friend from JFK Research who Roy Schaefer had a friend who was a trucker in front of the Pentagon at the time and he saw the plane fly toward and then swerve over the Pentagon.
	A lot of witnesses seeing a plane come down.
	But controlling for the actual hit itself, you know, they would have screened that off.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Well, the fact is, he saw the plane swerve over.
	Now, there was also a group at the Citro Station there, and they were recording seeing a plane, but it was to the east.
	Of the Citgo station when it had to be the West in order to be legit.
	So, I mean, it was just crazy what we had here.
	Well, Henry captured Flight 11. Keep going now.
	And I realize now I reorganized the slide to do all the planes initially.
	Here's Flight 175, approaching the South Tower now.
	Turns out it's traveling too fast for a Boeing 767.
	Because the wings would shear off.
	Because the plane would come apart in flight.
	At sea level, they can't go that fast.
	Next slide.
	Right.
	This is pilots for 9-11 Truth again.
	They've created a documentary, 9-11 Intercepted.
	And they explain what would happen at that altitude.
	The mistake they made was assuming that a 767 at 700 to 1,000 feet.
	Could fly at the same speed.
	It can fly at 35,000 speed, where the air is only one-third as dense.
	So in fact, the plane would have come apart.
	Couldn't have even made it to the South Tower.
	It would have been traveling as fast as we see in the videos.
	And there are like 52 videos of Flight 175.
	We'll talk about that more.
	Continue.
	Yeah.
	So you've got the plane just disappearing into the building.
	What happens is it doesn't crumble.
	What should have happened is it would have crumbled external to the building if it were a real aircraft.
	And then we'd have bodies, seats, luggage, wings, tail on the ground.
	But beneath each facade, we have photographs.
	No bodies, no seats, no luggage, no ground.
	I'll show you the photos.
	Continue next slide.
	Can I add one thing here?
	Sure.
	I compare this to imagine you drink a Coke.
	You have an empty Coke can.
	And you go to your fridge, and you throw that Coke can at your fridge.
	Is the Coke can gonna melt into your fridge, come out the other side?
	Do you know what I mean?
	I remember arguing with Kevin Barrett, and Kevin Barrett's like, well, if it's fast enough...
	Do you remember that?
	A long time ago...
	I know, it's funny.
	I mean, it's not funny, but...
	You know, I'm a huge fan of Kevin.
	I have been supportive of Kevin for decades.
	We did a radio show together.
	I love the guy, but he's got some blocks.
	He's got some blocks about 9 /11 and about Sandy Hook.
	I can tell him the monstrous amount of evidence of proof of Sandy Hook, the FEMA manual.
	The fact it's on the Connecticut schedule as exercise L366, that they even sent out a map how to get from Bridgeport down to Dickinson Drive, that it wasn't even an elementary school, that I have contacts in the community who reached out to me because they didn't like the way I was being abused by the courts and gave me a whole bunch of additional information, including that the school had been closed by 2006, that it wasn't even an elementary, it was a special needs school.
	That Eric Holder came down and offered the community $114 million if they do it.
	That they had auditions.
	That they signed non-disclosure agreements.
	Not my contacts, who are cast by their mothers involuntarily, didn't sign the non-disclosure and are free to talk about it with impunity.
	That they still receive benefits.
	They don't pay any taxes.
	How do you like that, James?
	If you participate in Sandy Hook, you don't pay any taxes.
	You get free college.
	Kevin, for some reason, none of it registers.
	And he thinks the idea that nobody was killed is ridiculous.
	Well, it was a FEMA drill, Kevin.
	The only people who would have died is if they stepped on a live wire by accident and were grounded.
	I mean, you're not going to be able to recruit people to participate in these stage events.
	Some of them wind up being dead.
	That's the change in our modus operandi, I believe, what you just pointed out.
	And it's challenging to explain to people, but for that reason, they want to minimize blowback.
	I don't know.
	It's a matter of intellectual follow-through.
	Once you get involved in this, you ought to carry it all the way to figure out what really happened.
	Now look here.
	Flight 175 was intersecting with eight different floors.
	Now, each of those floors had a steel truss.
	This was a tube within a tube design.
	You have the 47 massive core columns inside the inner tube.
	Then you have the 230 external support columns.
	The outer tube connected by steel truss is filled with four and eight inches of concrete because there are 208 feet on the side.
	That's an acre of concrete on a steel truss for each floor.
	And the external columns were massive.
	So here you have intersecting with eight.
	There's no way a plane could have got in there.
	No real plane could have done it, which is why they had to contrive an alternative way to create the impression of planes having hit the building.
	Next.
	So what should have happened?
	Crumbling external to the building.
	But it didn't happen because they were not real planes.
	Next.
	Here you have, this is the Evan Fairbanks, looking straight up.
	And what you see is a plane approaching a building, and it's passing its own whole length through the building in the same number of frames that passes its whole length through air, which makes sense only if a massive 500,000...
	Tons, steel and concrete building provides no more resistance to the trajectory of an aircraft than air, which is obviously absurd.
	And at the bottom left there, you see the nose out phenomenon.
	You may or may not remember, James, when all of a sudden you were watching the South Tower and it faded to black.
	That's because of a hand-eye coordination problem and they had an image they didn't want the public to see.
	The nose of a...
	Commercial carrier, like a 767, is the most fragile.
	It's loaded with electronics.
	If this had been a real plane, you couldn't have had a nose out.
	So they had to fade to black.
	You're recording the most traumatic event in American history, save the assassination of JFK, and you shut off your cameras right in the middle?
	That required extraordinary reason.
	It was a failure of hand-eye coordination here.
	Next.
	So here, this is beneath the facade, as I said.
	No bodies, no seats, no luggage, no wings, no tail.
	There's no debris.
	It's impossible that there'd be no debris if it was supposed to be a real plane hitting the north or the south tower, not real plane.
	We know.
	There's the evidence right there.
	Next.
	There was an engine at church in Murray, so Jack White was intrigued.
	What's going on here with this church?
	It's sitting on the sidewalk.
	It's under a canopy in a steel frame.
	It was just sitting on the sidewalk.
	Now think about it.
	If this were an actual real engine from one of the planes, coming down with great velocity, it would have ripped off the sidewalk.
	Well, they didn't want to cause a city of New York a problem.
	They just brought it in.
	They've even got a dolly they used, apparently, to put it there and set it down on the sidewalk.
	We're supposed to believe it's a real plane, a real engine, remember one of these planes?
	And guess what?
	It turns out experts have observed it's got the wrong features on the engine.
	This was not in use in Boeing aircraft.
	At the time of 9 /11, and jack out some Fox News footage where you can see guys in FBI vests unloading something heavy to put it there at Church and Murray.
	I mean, more proof that this whole thing was a fantasy, a fake engine planted at Church and Murray.
	Next.
	Well, so how did they do it?
	There's a completely brilliant guy by the name of Richard D. Hall from the UK who created what he called his flight.
	175 3D radar study.
	He took those, you know, those 52 videos.
	He found like 27 that were sufficiently precise.
	You could plot where the plane was at times approaching the South Tower.
	So he created his plot.
	Then he found NIST had a similar plot, but they claimed it was based on radar data, but the radar data didn't look right to him.
	When he searched around, he found there was radar data.
	But the radar data was for a plane 1,200 feet to the side.
	All the plots he plotted weren't on the radar.
	But the plane 1,200 feet to the side was.
	Turn next slide.
	So what do we have?
	He inferred.
	Now what was going on was this plane to the side was projecting a holographic image of a plane, a 767 supposedly, which can explain the impossible speed.
	It didn't come apart because it was a holographic image.
	It wasn't a real plane.
	And the projecting plane appears to have been traveling faster than a 767 could have traveled at that speed.
	It explains the impossible image.
	Because you're not talking about a real plane entering the building where it would have crumbled and you would have had all that debris on the ground, body, seats, luggage.
	It didn't happen because it wasn't a real plane.
	The reason it doesn't show on the radar is radar bounces off of physical objects to create the image.
	But this hologram wasn't a physical object.
	There was nothing to bounce off of.
	So what he figured out was this was actually...
	Almost certainly a military plane projecting the image, and the same thing occurred with the North Towers.
	Next slide.
	So here you see the way it was projected.
	So you had the image coming up to the building.
	And let me say, here's a real tell.
	If it had been a real, if it had been done with sea, we know it's impossible, right?
	We know it's not a real plane because of the impossibility of the entry with no debris.
	There are three hypotheses, CGI, computer-generated images, video compositing, and the 17 seconds before, after an image is captured and it's broadcast, you can add the image of planes, or holographic projection.
	But if it had been CGI or video compositing, no one would have seen the planes until the video were broadcast.
	Well, we got like 500.
	I went through this with a Judy Wood guy, Andrew Johnson.
	500 reports collated by the New York Times.
	People seen planes.
	They differed wildly.
	Large planes, small planes, commercial, military.
	But they were already seen planes before the impact.
	Impossible CGI or video compositing hits.
	Neither CGI nor video compositing, leaving only holographic.
	And look at the next slide.
	I was actually sent a page from an Australian military manual of an airborne holographic projector.
	I read, "The holographic projector displays a three-dimensional visual image in a desired location removed from the display generator.
	The projector can be used for psychological ops or strategic perception management." It's also useful for optical deception and cloaking, providing a momentary distraction when engaging an unsophisticated adversary.
	Look there, you got one plane projecting the image of another, which is what happened on 9-11.
	And get this.
	Turns out that Flight 175, just like Flight 93, was still airborne after it allegedly had hit the South Tower.
	Where it was over Harrisburg and Pittsburgh and Pennsylvania, James.
	I mean, believe it or not, pilots for 9 /11 did such great work on this.
	And yet, see, when you talk about no planes, that's really a conjunction of four theses, that flight 11 did not hit the North Tower, 77 did not hit the Pentagon, 93 didn't crash in Shanksville, 175 didn't hit the South Tower, each of which is true.
	And yet, for reasons I failed to understand pilots, Won't endorse the no-plane theory.
	And, of course, it's because it sounds so odd.
	Everyone says, hey, I saw those planes on television.
	What are you telling me?
	Somebody must be nutty.
	Well, that's because they don't understand the hypothesis, namely that the only planes that we saw were not real, that they were images that, as you are suggesting, this is a made-for-TV movie, which is exactly what happened on 9-11.
	And I went further.
	FAA, Federal Aeronautics Administration, got records for 93 and 175 and discovered the physical aircraft used for those flights.
	And remember, the same aircraft could be used today, Tampa, to Chicago, tomorrow, New York, to San Francisco.
	We're not even formally deregistered or taken out of service until 28 September 2000.
	Five, which raises the following questions.
	How can planes that weren't even in the air, 11 and 77, have crashed on 9 /11?
	And how can planes that crashed on 9 /11, 93 and 175, have still been in the air four years later?
	Talk about hoodwicking the American people blowing smoke with mirrors.
	Here it is.
	If you have any questions about the four flights, then, now would be a good time to discuss, James, or we can turn to the Twin Towers.
	Let's go to the Twin Towers.
	I also thought, isn't it true that these flights weren't full?
	They didn't have a full passenger manifest?
	You're absolutely right.
	They weren't partial.
	And that's another peculiarity.
	How could a commercial carrier, American or United, make money?
	Profit if they're only partially full.
	For example, 11 only had 92 of 351.
	175, 65 of 351, because remember those were 767s.
	Then 77 only had 64 of 289.
	93 only had 45 of 289.
	45 out of 289 seats.
	Right, right.
	And it's just ridiculous.
	I mean, and I've seen, I did a debate with a guy who said, oh, no, you know, because a passenger manifest don't show the names of any of the alleged hijackers.
	That was a mistake in fabricating a manifest, because it was all fake.
	And he showed me the manifest, and the names of the hijackers have been written in in pen around the margins.
	James, it was embarrassing.
	This is embarrassing.
	That's a bait.
	I mean, it was just ridiculous.
	Now, here you have these magnificent structures.
	You won many awards for the design, 110 stories, but they're really like three 30-floor skyscrapers put together with additional floors to make it all work.
	You can go to the next.
	Here you see the way they were constructed as I was talking about the tube within a tube design.
	Massive, very solid construction.
	Next.
	And yet, here's what we have for the North Tower.
	Blowing apart in every direction externally.
	What you're not witnessing here is a collapse.
	This is not a collapse.
	In a collapse, all the floors come down at the same time.
	We had a collapse with Building 7, which wasn't hit by any aircraft.
	Didn't actually collapse.
	Until seven hours after the North Tower was destroyed, you're witnessing something completely different that required a mass amount of energy to blow them apart in every direction, as you're seeing here.
	Continue.
	Here's the design, and what is claimed by the government is it was like a pile driver.
	Because of the planes, the top floors are supposed to have fallen down on the lower floors.
	The steel, for example, it was six inches in the sub-basement, five, four.
	By the time you got up to the upper floor, it was like only a quarter of an inch thick.
	So we had a tiny percentage of the mass of the building, which would have been disrupted immediately.
	There's no possible way the official government account could have occurred.
	And I got to tell you, it's embarrassing.
	Every engineer in the country knows that wind towers did not collapse.
	Their collapse was impossible.
	Because you've got like 1.9% of the mass overcoming the lower.
	No, no, no.
	And as John Skilling, who was the chief engineer in the design, observed, they were built with a safety factor of 20. That means every floor could support 20 times what it was expected to carry, in fact, whether it was a dead load or live, meaning whether you're talking about adding the people in all their office equipment and all that.
	In other words, it couldn't have happened.
	And if there were any kind of collapse of upper floors, it would have halted virtually immediately.
	It would have been asymmetrical.
	It would have been obvious.
	This is an impossibility.
	And here, this is a wonderful guy named Chuck Baldwin.
	He's a retired high school math, physics, and chemistry teacher who calculated that in the Twin Towers for every unit at downward force, It was opposed to my 118 units of upward force.
	I mean, it was just preposterous.
	They could not have collapse.
	Next.
	But here's what actually happened.
	And look at the foreground.
	That's Building 7. Rowing.
	That's insane, looking at it from that angle.
	Yeah.
	Does that look like a collapse to you?
	No.
	But the government has told us endlessly it was a collapse.
	So what the hell is going on here?
	Continue.
	Now this, if it were plain, it's a little gift where you see the spires of the North Tower, what remain, that are dissolved.
	I'm familiar with it.
	Yeah, it sort of disappears.
	Yeah, yeah.
	You see them dissolve before your very eyes.
	Now, Judy claims this is because of directed energy.
	But actually, there's an alternative explanation.
	It appears to be the one that was responsible to win that there were many nukes in the sub-basement of the two buildings, and they destroyed the inner tube from the bottom up, and then had the effect of demolishing the outer tube from the top down.
	And that's what we witnessed.
	And to help illustrate that, with towers that big, they have to have a way...
	To bring them down that's built into the engineering of the buildings themselves.
	So the Sears Tower would be another example.
	And there have been architects that have spoken to that.
	To how they bring it down, you know.
	James, here's a trick with the Twin Towers.
	They were constructed inside of a kind of a dike, colloquially referred to as a bathtub.
	To keep Hudson River water out.
	So they had to devise an ingenious method of demolition that would not destroy the bathtub, less Hudson River water flood.
	The flood over Manhattan's downtown.
	The most valuable real estate in the world.
	So this required great ingenuity.
	Continue, continue.
	Now, we figured out how to do it.
	I mean, look, veterans today...
	Got on the new hypothesis, published as many as 50 articles about the nuclear demolition of the Trade Center, and then discovered the Palmer Report.
	Heinz Palmer sorted out how it was done and produced a series of diagrams.
	And there are seismic reads, right?
	Sezmic activity as well as trontium and other radioactive isotopes in the atmosphere.
	That's also true.
	These are diagrams that accompany the Palmer Report about how it was, in fact, done.
	You can download this online.
	P-O-M-M-E-R.
	You can get the whole bloody thing.
	Keep going.
	These were, you know, in the sub-basement.
	This is about weakening the building through small explosives.
	Remember, lots of they heard boom, boom, boom.
	Well, there were levers to weaken the building before they set off.
	The mini-nuke.
	Keep going.
	Next.
	Yeah.
	Here are the nuclear fizzle and flash in the tower.
	See how they're buried in the sub-basement.
	And these are low radiation to begin with.
	But nevertheless, the U.S. Geological Survey would do dust studies.
	Of 35 samples in lower Manhattan and found elements that would not have been there had this not been a nuclear event.
	Some tritium, for example, lithium, lanthanum, some of which are radioactive.
	And they only exist as isotopes continue with, because I've added a number here.
	Here's more about, you know, blowing it up.
	Notice the top here, the South Tower, it started to tilt.
	And that's when they realized.
	That they had to blow it then.
	So it was actually premature before they intended, but they did, and it just all disappeared.
	Keep going.
	Fascinating.
	Yeah, it is.
	It's stunning.
	This Palmer report is so thorough and so detailed as to exactly how it was done.
	And notice they got photographs of what you were seeing externally with what they're diagramming is actually happening to the building at the same time.
	Continue.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Here we get more.
	It's shot through the towers, grazing for the facade.
	Well, there were multiple buildings, of course, that were demolished, but the twins are the key.
	Next.
	Yeah, this is fascinating.
	This is where we get the toasted cars.
	Judy has made so much out of the toasted cars because they had these bizarre effects.
	And they're similar to what you have from directed energy weaponry.
	But it's explicable by the use of the ionizing radiation that was generated by the use of the nukes the way they did it.
	So there's no aspect of the event that nukes cannot explain.
	But there are aspects of the event that directed energy cannot.
	Those buildings were built with asbestos, correct?
	Yeah, there was asbestos.
	That was a problem.
	They confronted a difficulty that because of the asbestos, they could do a conventional demolition of the building because it would have released it into the atmosphere.
	And if you were going to remove it physically, you'd have to erect scaffolding around the buildings at about the tune of a billion bucks apiece, so it wasn't feasible.
	But if you have a convenient terrorist attack taking them out, all your problems are solved.
	And then we had Christie Whitman declaring the air was safe to breathe when it manifestly was not.
	That was a disgrace.
	Continue, James.
	Continue.
	So here we see more.
	And, you know, there was molten.
	Get this.
	There was molten metal beneath Lower Manhattan until mid-December.
	Mid-December.
	So from 9-11 to mid-December.
	Where did all that mold come from?
	It's not explicable by directed energy because they just dissolve everything instantaneously.
	But the nukes, reducing the molten metal, can explain it.
	In fact, it's not explainable any other way.
	Continue.
	This is just looking at the damage when it was all said and done.
	Another.
	Go further.
	Yeah.
	This is how you had these decayed areas.
	That's a great image.
	The viscous granite sank down and filled the explosive cavities there.
	And there are other images where you see the heat.
	Now, this is from the U.S. Geological Survey.
	Barium, strontium, lithium, lanthanum, yttrium, chromium, tritium.
	None of this stuff should have been there, not in the quantities detected, which shows that, you know, this, again, I reiterate.
	Would only have been present had it been a nuclear event.
	Next.
	And then we had debris ejected from the North Tower at a 45-degree angle.
	Well, that required tremendous energy.
	It's not explicable by directed energy.
	You had to have a source of energy.
	Huge steel beams were ejected very far distances.
	It would take a lot of explosive force and velocity.
	Next slide.
	Yes.
	So jet fuel fires, even if they burn hot enough and long enough, would cause the building to sag and gradually collapse, but it couldn't have gone very far, as I've explained.
	Jet fuel could have ejected 300 tons up at a 45-degree angle, 600 feet outward, into the winter garden.
	Now, get this.
	To explode steel, and this is regarding the nanothermite hypothesis, which is bonkers, where T. Mark Hightower and I...
	Published three articles in 2011, one of which was entitled 9-11 Truth Based Upon a False Theory.
	To explode steel, an explosive needs to have a detonation velocity of 6,100 meters per second.
	To explode cement, a detonation velocity of 3,200 meters per second.
	Kerosene, which is a principal constituent of jet fuel, It has a detonation velocity of only 1,600 meters per second.
	Nanothermite even worse.
	A detonation velocity of over 895 meters per second.
	James, it's impossible.
	This could have been done using nanothermite.
	Many nukes, however, would have had the observed effect.
	Here you have Gene Stanley, now a BBC anchor, saying this is like at 4.58.
	That the Solomon Brothers building had collapsed, which was another name for Building 7, when, and if you go to the next slide, the Solomon Brothers building was still standing.
	We'll go back one then.
	I think I edited some slides to give it more concise.
	That's the Solomon Brothers building right here.
	Behind her, still standing.
	Right.
	And they glitched that out because they realized they made a mistake.
	Yeah, yeah.
	She's talking about something that happened before it happened.
	Yep, that's right.
	Go right ahead.
	Now here.
	Back, back, back, back.
	There we go.
	This is Building 7. Now look, this is a collapse.
	You see all the floors coming down at the same time.
	They're traveling at virtually the speed of freefall.
	And when it's done, the classic experience with controlled demolitions, if you have the pile of debris equal to 12% of the original height.
	The original height here was 47 floor, 12%, 5.5.
	Next slide.
	Do you remember when Martin Sheen, who played the president on the West Wing, did a commercial asking about Building 7?
	So he was a pretty mainstream guy.
	But this was the vector by which people, if you wanted to introduce somebody to 9-11 being a deep state event, Building 7 is like maybe a skeleton key in many ways.
	You're absolutely right, which is why architects and engineers at Bush said so much.
	Here you have that five and a half floors of debris for Building 7. Well, when it comes to the Twin Towers, nothing!
	I had Father Frank Morales on my shows twice.
	He was a first responder from St. Mark's Episcopal Church.
	He said the buildings were destroyed too or even below ground level.
	Right.
	We should have had like one twelfth of the, maybe, like, but a ton of debris at the bottom.
	Because you have all these things collapsing down.
	You would have a huge amount of all of that stuff that shoots up into, you know, the real estate that goes up in New York City.
	Would have been a massive...
	But it wasn't there.
	It wasn't there.
	13 and a half floors.
	But look, here you have Building 7 over there with the 5 and a half floors, and here you have where the North Tower stood, and there's nothing.
	I mean, there's some remnants of some of the external facade, but where's the building?
	Where's the 13 and a half floors?
	It should have been more than double what we had for Building 7. More than double.
	But it ain't there.
	And whatever was there, they really got it out of there quick in those trucks.
	Do you remember?
	Rudy Giuliani, who is a mayor, had 115 dump trucks lined up.
	And as Judy Wood astutely observed, and in New York, I'd venture to take you a month to get one dump truck.
	He had 115, meaning this was all planned in advance.
	They were just hauling out the steel and the debris over the protests of the Fire chiefs and the highest officials who wanted an investigation of what the hell had happened.
	But they were bringing in tons of dirt.
	They were bringing in tons of dirt to absorb what radioactive contamination was done at Chernobyl.
	That's what they did.
	They brought in tons of dirt.
	So the dump trucks were not only hauling out the debris from the World Trade Center.
	They were bringing in dirt to absorb the radiation.
	Now, this is about a summary of what happened on 9-11 in New York.
	The video won't play.
	No, it's not a video.
	It's just a video.
	Next is a key point.
	Here's what I was talking about before.
	The dancer art students, this was like 200 Mossad agents brought under the guise and their visas were authorized by CIA.
	They were supposed to be art students.
	So you had the gelatin group that were in the Twin Towers doing external performance art.
	We should say what they were doing.
	They were taking mannequins and, you know, they had an art project that involved, you know, throwing bodies outside.
	You know what I mean?
	Like, just happened to be convenient to help with the spectacle of that day.
	Well, they had a band.
	They had boxes of few holders.
	We have, you know, they were setting up.
	They were prepping the North and the South Tower for what would come.
	And they were also, I think, creating the image of the facades, you know, those cookie-cutter cutouts, like the Wiley Coyote cartoons.
	Judy's been really good about that, which was so ridiculous.
	Well, that was a gelatin group.
	Get this.
	They were planting jammers on buildings.
	To block Port Authority dispatchers and first responder radios.
	They were planting explosives on the Jersey side of the George Washington Bridge where the cables are anchored to collapse a bridge.
	They were going to explode a truck in the Lincoln Tunnel.
	They were going to explode a truck in the Holland Tunnel.
	They were going to park trucks with demolition devices and specific parking areas under the Twin Towers.
	They were going to coordinate.
	This last claim, I think, is suspect.
	Muhammad Ana and his group, those guys were just patsies.
	They had nothing to do with it.
	They were just framed, just as Sirhan was framed, just as Lee Harvey Oswald was framed, just as James Earl Ray was framed.
	All very embarrassing.
	Next slide.
	So I hear you had an urban moving system van when that report was of the dancing Israelis, as they're known in Liberty State Park, Taking the photographs, the selfies.
	They were picked up in an urban moving system van, which is an Israeli asset.
	And inside the van, when they were approached by the cops, the drivers said, we are not the problem.
	Our problem is your problem.
	The Palestinians are the problem.
	And it turned out in the van, there were residue of explosive box cutters, passports, money.
	And one of the reasons...
	This matters to you and me.
	This happened a long time ago.
	It introduced the war on terror.
	And so what we are witnessing today in Gaza, it all began here.
	We lost a lot of blood and treasure.
	This was the catalytic event that needed to...
	Because the United States electorate isn't going to just rush off to...
	A series of wars, let alone one war.
	It's bizarre.
	There was a mural like that.
	You might wonder why they do things like that.
	It's a wink and a nod.
	They're in our face, James.
	They are in our face.
	These guys went back to Israel.
	Michael Chertoff.
	It was at the time an assistant attorney general.
	They were incarcerated for like 44 days.
	He released them and let them go back to Israel.
	Three of them went on TV and explained to the host they were there to document the destruction of the World Trade Center, which obviously implies foreknowledge.
	I mean, they were on a mission.
	They were Mossad.
	Give me a break.
	How bad is this?
	They were...
	Quietly shipped back home.
	I think Dershowitz even weighed in at one point.
	There's another gentleman I can't remember.
	And Chertoff, you know, he was one of the architects of this as well.
	And he was invested in the airport scanners that everybody has to go through now.
	Right.
	That's right.
	That's right.
	And he became the second head of Homeland Security after Tom Ridge, who was a former governor of Pennsylvania.
	Ridge was good for the job, but...
	This guy looked like a Nazi prison guard, this Chertoff, and a bad, bad, bad guy, you know?
	Go ahead, next slide.
	Well, here, they just had to.
	So they're broadcasting this live, and all of a sudden they flip on this video of Palestinians cheering and rejoicing as though it were contemporaneous.
	And it was not.
	This had to be from archival footage of some political or religious occasion when they were joyful, and it was indeed that.
	Right.
	So the illusion they were trying to sell is that these people, or the Palestinians, were reveling in our attack.
	Tragedy.
	Right.
	And our tragedy, our pathos.
	That's right.
	And that's just not true.
	It was just a convenient image that they just juxtaposed.
	Yeah.
	This is the slightest mindset.
	This is why I say...
	They always want to blame the Palestinians for their own evil deeds.
	Just as Sirhan Sirhan for Bobby, it was actually the security guard beside him, Thane Eugene Caesar, shot him behind the right ear from an inch and a half, continued firing as Bobby fell.
	But everyone is distracted by Sirhan in the front, who kept firing, firing.
	So Bobby's security went after Sirhan when the real assassin was right beside him.
	So this is classic Israeli propaganda.
	Classic.
	May I add one thing?
	Yes.
	I believe the reason why we have Trump right now is because of a pendulum swinging the other way and it was a referendum on these neoconservatives, right?
	I'm an independent and have been since I'm 18, not a Democrat, not a Republican.
	I was very much against the wars.
	I thought Julian Assange was a rock star.
	And it's very strange.
	So Democrats today think Julian Assange is a Russian asset.
	They were all about war.
	Let's go do more.
	Let's sell more weapon packages to Ukraine.
	Do you know what I mean?
	So it's very disturbing.
	But Trump, and I'm not saying that maybe he represents that real deal.
	But I think for a world that was very fatigued with these wars, right?
	And so Obama was supposed to be like a rejection of those George W. Bush years, but then he became...
	I was disillusioned, as were every young volunteer.
	He was drone-striking American citizens.
	He escalated things, the surge.
	And we know in his second term the terrible things he did.
	And so it's in the wake of those administrations that Trump sort of walked in and he had a little bit of the fatigue from this, of being worn down for 15 years of this, just in my opinion.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	In regards to the 19 alleged perpetrators who had nothing to do with it, I mean, it's ridiculous.
	They were in the U.S. They were being followed, but they were being set up to be the Patsies.
	It's really outrageous.
	Didn't some of them turn out to be alive that they had printed?
	Muhammad ought to call his father and said he was scared to death, but he had nothing to do with it.
	That's absolutely right.
	And a good way to think about this for people watching, in the same way that...
	Lee Harvey Oswald was designed to take your eyes off of everything else.
	Follow Oswald.
	And the same thing.
	So we heard about these guys, and they went to flight schools, and they did this, and they saw strippers, and they were doing blow, and they were doing...
	If you're focused on that, you're not focused on...
	It's like the magic trick, right?
	You know, the sleight of hand, you know?
	And then you take the quarter out of your ear, you know?
	You got it.
	Next.
	Note if no planes crashed, then no passengers died, and no Islamic hijackers caused them to crash.
	If no Islamic hijackers caused them to crash, then there was no warrant or any justification for the war on terror.
	Think about that.
	Let that sink in.
	Absolutely.
	The things we could have spent money on, health care, Yeah, I understand.
	We're doing Israel's dirty work.
	Onboarding our manufacturing base.
	We could have done so many things.
	And it makes me furious.
	It's sickening.
	Here's Wesley Clark who explained at the Commonwealth Club in 2007 how he'd been at the Pentagon and a general he knew he'd encountered.
	He said, you know what's going on?
	And at the time they were planning to invade Iraq.
	And he said, why?
	Iraq had nothing to do with 9-11.
	The general says, I don't know.
	And Wesley Clark said, well, keep me informed.
	So he comes back like a month later, runs into the same general.
	He says, are we still planning to attack Iraq?
	And he says, oh, no, sir, it's much worse.
	Brings him in, he says, I got a memorandum now from the Secretary of Defense.
	Is it classified?
	Clark says, yes, it is, sir.
	So he said, well, then don't show it to me.
	But he told them now the plan was to take out the governments of seven countries in the next five years, again with Afghanistan, Libya, eventually working up to Syria and Iran, and they both agreed.
	And Syria just fell last year, so only Iran is left on that list.
	That's exactly right.
	And Obama supervised Libya.
	So there's a continuity over administration, so don't think this, you know...
	That's right.
	There is a permanent security standard, right?
	Yes, so many astute observers believe we're seeing here with a focus on Iran is just trying to complete their sweep of seven countries, taking more than five years, but there was the plan.
	Next.
	Here we got Taliban.
	No evidence.
	Bin Laden involved.
	Afghanistan evacuation.
	Taliban spokesman.
	Although there was no proof he was involved, now we've been given promises that Afghan soil won't be used against us.
	Flip to the next.
	I mean, it's just absurd what happened here.
	This is a piece by Nick Goldstrom on my blog.
	Osama bin Laden 1957 to 2001.
	Get this.
	Osama was an officer in the CIA.
	His name, Colonel Tim Oz.
	Tim Osmond, right.
	An official from the agency actually visited a hospital in Dubai shortly before his death from his medical maladies.
	It's tough to get dialysis machines in and out of those caves in Afghanistan, where he died on 15 December 2001.
	He was buried in an unmarked grave in accordance with Muslim Islamic tradition.
	CNN and Fox both caught up with his death.
	By the 26th of December, 2001, it published that Osama bin Laden died.
	But that didn't inhibit Barack Obama from resuscitating and having died all over again 10 years later.
	To position himself for a triumphal re-election as the man who got Osama bin Laden.
	Next slide, I think.
	And by the way, he made that announcement when people were talking about his birth certificate.
	And so it was almost like a contingency plan.
	Like, if X happens, we're going to play this card.
	Yeah.
	We just got, you know.
	Yeah.
	Very weird.
	Yeah.
	Here they even made a movie about it, Zero Dark Thirty.
	But get this.
	A film that may even take the Academy Award for Best Picture in 2012 raises serious moral issues, glorifies a political stunt, and is based on an historical fiction.
	It is the latest in Obama propaganda.
	Osama bin Laden was not killed on 2 May 2011 during a raid on a compound in Pakistan.
	He actually died in Afghanistan on her about 15 December 2001, and he was buried there in an unmarked grave.
	Local obituaries reported Osama's death at the time.
	Even Fox subsequently confirmed it, as did CNN.
	He was buried in an unmarked grave, and according to Muslim tradition, he did not die in Pakistan.
	Nick Colerstrom has published about it.
	Osama bin Laden, 1957-2001.
	David Ray Griffin has a book about it.
	Osama bin Laden, dead or alive?
	And Scholars for Nine Left Truth has written about it.
	As I am here.
	Is David Ray Griffin still with us?
	No, no.
	He kicked the bucket about a year ago.
	Oh, my gosh.
	What a legend.
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	What a legend.
	I was a big fan.
	Meanwhile, Richard Gage resigned from architects and engineers just eight days before the 20th observance of September 11th.
	Richard Gage, of the largest...
	President and CEO of the largest 9-11 truth group, Resign.
	He also turned down to speak on 9-11 Global Stream and from the Lawyers Committee.
	I think, you know, the fact that Nanothermic can't cut it may have had to do with this.
	He's still up and about, though, and becoming more active once again.
	Next.
	He has helped to hit home the idea of freefall.
	That, you know, when you have a structure there, it wouldn't just be so fluid in the way that we see it.
	He was all over Building 7. Now, here you have the real perpetrators, Ehud, Ulmert, and Bibi Netanyahu, conferring with one another.
	They were the architects.
	They were the planners.
	Around the late 1980s, about the time of the...
	Collapse of the Soviet Union in '91, they came up with this idea of attacking the Twin Towers as a motivation for bringing American military into the Middle East to take out the modern Arab states that served as a counterbalance to Israel's domination of the entire region through the Greater Israel Project.
	Which takes big chunks, you know, it's from the Nile, Euphrates to the Nile, chunks of Egypt, most of Saudi Arabia, Syria, all of Lebanon, Jordan, even parts of Iraq.
	That's their plan.
	Where they just need to take out Iran as the sole remaining power, contesting their domination of the entire region.
	And then one more, I think we have one more slide.
	Namely...
	Dick Cheney, get this.
	Cheney was the on-the-ground operator on 9-11 from a bunker beneath the Pentagon.
	If you want to see a classic discussion about this, when Alex Jones held his American Scholars Conference in June of 2006 in Los Angeles, I was invited to come on to Hannity and Combs the evening before.
	Now, they were going to...
	They told me...
	They wanted to learn what 9-11 scholars for 9-11 truth had discovered about 9-11.
	But when I was sitting in the waiting room, I asked them to bring in a TV.
	And when Combs said, you're not going to believe what your students are being taught by their professors.
	Oh, gosh.
	It was a hit job, a smear piece.
	Yeah, but they didn't know enough about what I was teaching.
	If someone knows you're about to tell the truth, they will try to get ahead of you and try to discredit you ahead of time.
	Very sad.
	James, get this, and everyone can watch it.
	It was my finest, like, four and a half minutes.
	He opens by saying, "Professor, is this a required course or an elective?" I said, "Well, no, I don't have a course.
	I founded a research organization." He said, "You mean you're not actually teaching a course on 9 /11?
	No, no, no.
	I mean, I might talk about it in a course on critical thinking like I do JFK, but..." You know, it's a wonderful idea because there's so much material.
	And it went down from there.
	And Ollie North was sitting in Vershawn.
	Oh, my gosh.
	How surreal is that?
	Didn't you tell our producers you had a course?
	I said, no, I did not say I had a course.
	I founded a research organization to determine what actually happened.
	But, I mean, Ollie was just devastated.
	On it, you've got to watch.
	I've only recently run across reviews or actually stories about my appearance on Hannity and how they were trying to trap me and how I demolished them.
	Not my words, their words.
	If you have a clip of that, send it to me after and maybe I can add it.
	You got it.
	Let's go to the next one.
	And yeah, he was always going to an undisclosed location, remember?
	Dick Cheney's in a...
	Made it seem like he was more of the president.
	Listen, listen.
	Michael Rupert's book, Crossing the Rubicon, demonstrates from publicly available sources that Dick Cheney, the Vice President of the United States, was running the 9-11 op here in the USA on behalf of Israel.
	And he also got no-bid contracts, I think, for Halliburton.
	There's a lot of conflict of interest because in the war economy, these defense contractors that we talked about make a killing.
	Forgive the pun, but this is what we witnessed with JFK in Vietnam.
	There would be these Boeing, General Dynamics, Bell helicopter, different...
	They'd get maybe the contract to create a port.
	Like, huge contracts.
	And the money flows and goes around.
	It's kind of like sometimes when we send these aid packages to Ukraine, a lot of that gets laundered and goes to flush campaign coffers for people back here to keep the same system going so this unit party, the war party, can maintain Hold on power while just hiding behind a facade of democracy.
	And there's our final slide.
	I have two books on 9 /11.
	I organized a conference on the science and politics of 9 /11 right here in Madison in 2007, I think.
	And published a book called The 9-11 Conspiracy, The Scanning of America, where I gave Judy Wood three hours and unprecedented three hours to speak.
	People who think I've tried to undermine Judy, on the contrary, I sought to promote her.
	But she's attacked me because I don't buy into her directed energy hypothesis theory reasons I've elaborated here.
	So you can get this, America nuked on 9-11, one of my books that Amazon has not banned.
	And notice the subtitle, Compliments of the CIA, the neocons, and the DOD, and the Mossad, America nuked on 9-11.
	Check it out.
	I would love to know what Putin's files, you know, why in this Game of Thrones between these great powers like Russia and the West, Do they hold the cards back?
	Because obviously they know what happened on that day.
	They know what happened with JFK.
	They know what happened with 9-11.
	They know that moon landing was faked.
	They know it all, believe me.
	The Russians have superb intelligence, as does Israel.
	The Mossad is top-notch at what they do.
	But here you need to understand the truth about 9-11, because it was...
	In my judgment, the single most pivotal event in all of American history.
	I will add just a third thing, you know, because Peter Dale Scott, you know, drew a lot of the connections and called these deep state events the JFK assassination, maybe Watergate if you want to include that, but 9-11 and JFK echoes of each other.
	I would just add to that now this fiasco that we went through with COVID.
	It's yet another thing where we don't have accountability.
	It's made obscure to regular people and sets a dangerous precedent.
	And all of these things keep eroding our liberties.
	So COVID was a flagrant example.
	Literally not being able to make a living or to do this.
	Forcing the military to take...
	I just can't imagine the criminality involved and then trying to do that in the private sector with OSHA.
	Let me just make a point about these books.
	This is an edited book.
	I bring together groups of experts to explain what happened.
	None of this is just Jim Fetzer.
	I have pioneered collaborative research on the most complex and controversial events of American history by bringing together the best students to ever study them and publishing the results.
	That's why so many of my books have been banned by Amazon.
	Not only Nobody Died at Sandy Hook, but my book on the Boston bombing, Orlando and Dallas, Charlottesville, Parkland, and even the moon landing.
	Well, that's because it had a section on the Holocaust that blows apart the official theory so that the ADL asked Amazon to ban any book that questioned the official narrative, which they obligingly did and banned between 200 and 2,000 books.
	Well, they banned six of mine.
	Check them out at moonrockbooks.com.
	Say that one more time because I interrupted.
	Yeah.
	I'm saying Amazon.com has banned six of my books, James.
	Not only about Sandy Hook, but about the Boston bombing, about Orlando and Dallas, about Charlottesville, about Parkland.
	These were all stage phony events.
	Homeland Security played a large role in those, by the way, Jim.
	Say again?
	Homeland Security was the agency that did a lot of the school degree.
	FEMA was running them, James.
	FEMA was running them.
	FEMA!
	Well, FEMA is also part of our Continuity of Government plan.
	They call it Continuity of Operations.
	Now they changed the name.
	Oliver North, by the way, was one of the initial people that worked on an early version of that with, guess who?
	Donald Rumsfeld and Dick Cheney, who pioneered this idea, right?
	And they were back.
	They survived that Halloween massacre in the Nixon years.
	And then they come back.
	Conveniently, remember, the election with Gore was very controversial, right?
	Hanging chads.
	It was decided by the Supreme Court decision.
	And so maybe it wouldn't have mattered.
	But if you want to think about how they control elections now, look back.
	Because they needed to take power.
	Because if you didn't have Cheney in there, would you be able to...
	To do it the right way.
	And they created an intelligence group within the CIA.
	Why?
	Because the CIA did an assessment, a threat assessment on Iraq and said, no, they're not a threat to us.
	Give credit, give the devil's due sometimes.
	The CIA did not endorse this, and so they had to create a unique little intelligence group.
	Kind of like having the plumbers back in the Watergate, except...
	I don't remember what they call it.
	So you had Wolfowitz and...
	Yeah, yeah.
	He wanted opinions from a claimed intel group that agreed with his predetermined conclusion.
	So he created an alternative.
	You got it exactly right, James.
	And I got to tell you, I really admire the way you do this.
	You're on top of these issues.
	You know which are the most important good questions to ask.
	I'm extremely happy to be doing these shows with you, James.
	I just want to tell you, you're doing a great job.
	I appreciate that.
	God bless.
	You know, I've been getting emotional watching these things because I feel like my whole adult life, you know, and I hope to make progress.
	I'm glad that at least they're having the conversation.
	You know, Tucker famously, just not long ago, discussed 9-11.
	And I don't remember which gentleman he brought on, and you could argue maybe it's some limited hangout, but Tucker is saying, you're right, we don't have the truth about 9-11, and they did a whole show on it.
	And so it's out there in the zeitgeist, and I will look forward to, this ties back into my perennial question, which is, is this something we're going to be able to reform?
	Whatever this body is that...
	I think Karl Rove...
	I can't quote it verbatim, but he had this statement where he says, you know, you guys think you're going to figure...
	You don't understand that we write the history and as soon as you figure out one thing we've done, we've already created another thing.
	And then you'll have to go and figure that thing out.
	It was so bold and flagrant.
	He's basically saying, like, you don't get it, like, it may be the beginning of narrative warfare just being in our face.
	Peter Jennings famously got sick and died not too long after.
	And, you know, it was just an end of an era.
	And, you know...
	Ironically, in the culture, that's when we had reality TV starting.
	We had boy bands.
	We had Britney Spears.
	Remember the Dixie Chicks being booed?
	Because they...
	Question.
	Question 9-11.
	Question what the hell's going on out there.
	You can't catch up with reality because once you think you've figured it out, we've created a new reality.
	They're blowing smoke right up our behind.
	That's what they're doing.
	It's like that's their job.
	And I want to add something to viewers to understand, especially people on the left.
	I get it.
	When you think of the conservatives of the right, you think of Dick Cheney and the neocons and people who are jingoistic and they worship the FBI and the CIA and things like that.
	Things obviously change over time.
	So now, you know, you had Trump literally running on, I will declassify all the rest of the files of JFK on day one.
	I will, you know, because this is the legacy of all of this, is that, you know, we've become saturated with this, and people want transparency.
	Sunlight's the best disinfectant.
	These neocons are still out there, and it's...
	The current conflict in the Middle East is a great litmus test to judge, like, which people are a part of a controlled network or, you know, they get a little war hawkish on the left or the right.
	It doesn't matter.
	Hillary Clinton famously hawkish woman.
	And so in that election, I remember just like...
	I didn't want to support her because of what happened in Libya and many other things.
	And so what we have now in our political experience, whether people are aware of it or not, I want the left to understand this because Trump, whatever he becomes or what he's allowed to become because he's not a monarch, It's sort of a rejection of the uniparty, or at least maybe that's how he's positioned to be intentionally.
	That could be true, too.
	But the point is, some people on the left now, especially the radical left, see things through this lens and they think, like, we're endorsing.
	I'm not.
	But, you know, let's say I supported Trump.
	It was not to support these neocons that we just talked about.
	It was to try something different.
	And this is why people were happy about Bobby Kennedy being in the administration, Tulsi Gabbard.
	These are people who all have a reputation of trying to, to the best of their ability, push back on this uniparty.
	So it was Syria that Tulsi Gabbard would push back on the narratives that were developed about...
	The gas attacks and things like that.
	There's always a casus belli to go to war.
	And so I just want people on the left to understand that so they can understand the MAGA people.
	Because that's a big tent.
	It's a big tent.
	And so there's a lot of people in that that aren't your typical Christian, gun-toting stereotype of a conservative.
	That is what I believe was the mobilizing, what undergirded the MAGA movement.
	I got something I gotta attend to now, but I want to tell you, you're wonderful.
	It was a great show, and I will be sending you the clip for my interview.
	Okay, thank you.
	God bless.
	I can't thank you enough.
	All right.
	God bless.
	Over and out, and thank you so much.
	We'll talk soon.
	Thank you for all your hard work in the slides.
	I'll send you the thing when I finish it.

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