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March 15, 2025 - Jim Fetzer
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JFK: Who was Responsible and Why? Dr. Jim Fetzer - March 15, 2025
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Hello, this is John Coleman from Apakista Stasis, an Institute for the Humanities, an alternative college and high school here on New Milford, Connecticut, USA. This live broadcast is day two of our two-day conference on geopolitics.
And yesterday we had a whole gamut of presentations from our high schoolers who set us up with various...
Treatments of the Cold War, the CIA and KGB, educational models and weapons technology.
And we had, after that, a great afternoon of looking at propaganda, looking at international law, the war in Syria I presented on.
And today we have a chock-full schedule as well.
And you can see our website ticking along in the bottom and in the description.
Today, in this particular slot, we have Dr. James Fetzer, the FETS, and he and I have done a news show for about half a year now, and it's a great experience.
But Dr. Fetzer has a great deal of insight into the JFK assassination, and momentarily he will be presenting on who was responsible and why.
Before I hand things over to Dr. Fetzer, Oh, thank you, John, and I'm so glad you're presenting this series.
I'm very pleased to be a part of it.
I've been studying the assassination since 1992 when I began bringing together the best experts to ever study the case, and have published four books about it, innumerable articles and video presentations.
Everyone knows, of course, the official account, Three Shots Fired from the Sixth Floor of the Texas School Book Depository by Lee Harvey Oswald.
Conclusion of the Secret Service and the FBI, the day of the event, was that there had been three shots and three hits, that Jack had been hit in the back, that Connolly had been hit in the back, and Jack had been hit in the back of the head, killing him.
Oliver Stone in 1991 challenged the official account with a magisterial presentation, his film JFK, which is...
The most accurate, complete, and detailed presentation ever given to the public through the mass media, with three exceptions.
He did not know that Lee Oswald was actually in the doorway of the book depository at the time that JFK Motorcade passed by.
He posited three teams of assassins, when in fact, remarkably enough, there turned out to have been eight.
He did not know that the home movies of the assassination had been extensively edited and revised.
All, I believe, attributable to the fact that in addition to Jim Mars, an expert who was steering him in the right direction, Robert Roden, another expert, was steering him in the wrong.
Realize, after all, when Malcolm...
Killed him.
The acting press secretary explained that JFK was dead.
He said it was a simple matter of a bullet right through the head while pointing to his right tampon.
Notice, that's not among the three shots fired from the sixth floor.
Therefore, it's a conundrum as to what's going on here.
Indeed, if you go back to the live coverage, the afternoon of the assassination, such as On NBC, where you will witness famous newsmen of the day like Chet Huntley shown here.
They're talking about two shots in great detail.
A small clean puncture wound to the throat attributed to Malcolm Perry, MD, a physician at Parkland, very skilled surgeon who performed a simple tracheostomy incision right through the wound.
And who three times during a press conference held after Malcolm Kilduff's announcement of JFK's death, described it as a wound of entry, that the bullet was coming at him.
In addition, we have much more details about the shot that entered the right temple that was attributed to Admiral George Berkeley, the president's personal physician.
And I believe that...
Because this was done in such detail so thoroughly that afternoon, when the Warren Commission would eventually publish its claim that only three shots had been fired from above and behind, that the public subconsciously knew something was wrong.
Even during this broadcast, which you can find on the internet, later in the evening, when the story began to trickle in that the FBI and the Secret Service had Concluded there had been three and only three shots fired from above and behind.
Frank McGee, who is nobody's fool, says this is incongruous.
How could the man have been shot from in front, from behind?
But if you notice, these shots were all fired from different directions by different shooters.
So already at this point we have the shot to the back.
Fired from the top of the county records building.
We have the shot to the throat, fired from inside the triple underpass.
We have the shot to the back of the head, which was fired from the Dow Tax.
We have shot to the right temple, fired from the intersection of the triple underpass and the picket fence.
That's already four different shooters.
And of course, we got the shot to the back of Connolly.
That's five separate shooters.
Already.
Meanwhile, David W. Manning, with whom I began collaborating back in 1992, who is the leading expert on the medical evidence and the assassination, has a new book explaining how, in addition to that shot to the back of the head and the shot to the right temple, there was an additional shot to the side of JFK's head near simultaneous.
Meanwhile, framing a patsy.
Lee Harvey Oswald was actually in the doorway when the JFK motorcade passed by.
They made him remove his overshirt.
Before doing mug shots to not allow the direct comparison to obfuscate that he looked so much like the figure in the doorway.
He told Will Fritz he'd been out front with Bill Shelley, who was one of his supervisors in the book compository.
Indeed, everything Oswald told Fritz has turned out to be true.
Here's the most famous photograph taken.
During the assassination by AP photographer James I. Couchens.
If you look closely right here, you can see in the windshield a small white spiral nebula with a dark hole in the center where the bullet passed through en route to Jack's throat, where his left ear would be as if his left ear were visible.
He's holding his hand up, clutching his throat.
Here's the figure in the doorway we're addressing.
We'll take a closer look as we move forward.
But who many have believed and we have proven was indeed Lee Harvey Oswald.
Here's a window in a uranium mining company in the Daltex on the second floor from which three shots were fired with a Mannlicher Carcano, the only unsilenced shots fired that day to create the acoustical impression of only three shots having been fired.
And notice.
JFK's security is looking around as though they have no idea what's going on.
Lyndon Johnson's detail is already responding.
Thus, we look closer, and we see, oddly enough, there's a figure that appears to be behind it in front of Lee Oswald, or let us call him the doorman, not to beg the question, which is, of course, an anatomic impossibility.
Here you have a figure holding his hands up to his face, but his face has been blacked out.
The fellow behind and in front of the doorman is referred to as black tie man.
The individual whose face had been blacked out, black hole man.
Notice his shirt has been obfuscated as well.
And oddly, there's the face of a black man here, which turns out to have been to obfuscate features of the shirt doorman was wearing at the time.
Thus, if you compare Lee when he was arrested with doorman, you find there's striking similarities.
Richard Hook, now deceased, regrettably, began by identifying seven similarities in doorman and Lee when he was arrested and worked his way up to 50 or more.
He did brilliant work.
Meanwhile, as I indicated, Lee said, Lee remove his outer shirt and have his mugshot taken in his T-shirt to obfuscate comparisons with doorman.
Meanwhile, Ralph St. Kaye observed that we know the man in the doorway was Lee Oswald because of the height, the weight, the build, the shirt, and the T-shirt he was wearing, which are the same as the height, the weight, the build, the shirt, and the T-shirt.
Lee Oswald when he was arrested.
Here we have a gif that's seemingly not plain, where you can actually see how Larry Rivera has done a superposition to establish that the man in the doorway was indeed Lee Oswald and not Billy Lovelady, a co-worker who was also there in the doorway.
And indeed, It's really quite striking.
To see the gifts actually in play, you'll need to go to one of my blog entries, JFK Special, for example, of 18 November 2021, which I dedicated to Oliver Stone, and you see the gifts that make it decisive.
That indeed it was Lee Oswald, the doorman, and where it turns out, Black Hole Man was Billy Lovelady.
So indeed they were both in the doorway.
The FBI actually invited Billy Lovelady in for an interview, asking him to wear the clothing he'd worn at the time, which included blue jeans and a short sleeve, red and white vertically striped shirt.
So that he looked completely different than the man in the doorway, but where Larry has created a reconstruction of what the scene in the doorway would have looked like had it been in color and more accurately portrayed.
Lee in the dark reddish brown long sleeve shirt, Billy in the red and white vertically striped short sleeve shirt.
Meanwhile...
Those who knew him best fingered LBJ. Madeline Duncan Brown, with whom he began an affair in 1948, bore him a son, Stephen, in 1950. Billy Solastus and Barb McClellan also knew the parties involved.
Roger Stone has laid out the case for LBJ having killed JFK. Not personally, of course, but having been the source of the plot.
E. Howard Hood explained the chain of command to his son St. John when he was on what he believed to be his deathbed.
He actually recovered, but he presented the information to St. John of the chain of command.
Madeline, with whom I had over a hundred conversations, knew Lyndon up close and personal.
Because of their relationship, widely known in Dallas, she was invited to many social events where he or other powerful players in Dallas would be present.
The night before the assassination, she was invited to an event at the home of Clint Murchison Sr., a powerful oil man, and she reported other prominent figures were there.
It was a relatively small gathering of only a few dozen.
J. Edgar Hoover was there.
H.L. Hunt, another powerful oil Texas man, was there.
Although a competitor with Murkison, they had a common cause.
She believed perhaps the event had been to honor Edgar, who would stop in Dallas and wait to California.
Where he'd visit the Del Mar racetrack, and invariably, when he put down bets, his horse would win.
Well, turns out the track was owned by Merkison Sr., so pretty convenient arrangement.
Late in the evening, unexpectedly to her at least, LBJ showed up, and the heavy hitters disappeared into a boardroom.
Let me add, by the way, Richard Nixon was among them.
This appears to have been a ratification meeting to go ahead with the assassination.
And when 10 or 15 minutes later, after it broke up, he strode over toward her, and instead of whispering sweet nothings in her ear as she expected, he told her in a hateful tone of voice, after tomorrow I won't have to put up with embarrassment from those Kennedy boys.
That's not a threat, that's a promise.
Interestingly, she's also reported the following day Lyndon called her and repeated the same message in the morning.
Six weeks later, they had a rendezvous on New Year's Eve at the Driscoll Hotel in Austin, Texas, where she confronted him with rumors rampant in Dallas at the time that he had been involved since no one stood to gain more personally.
And Lyndon...
Blew up on her and told her the oil boys and the CIA had decided that Jack had to be taken out.
Billy saw Estes in his book, A Texas Wadgen, about himself, as by now he had had conversation with Cliff Carter, who was Linden's chief administrative assistant, and Mac Wallace, who was Linden's personal hitman, together, and that He became suspicious that they had been involved.
Mack Wallace, in fact, had murdered a dozen people for Lyndon, including one of his own sisters, because she talked too much.
Mar McClellan actually worked for a very famous attorney in Texas by the name of Ed Clark.
Where a lot of the planning for the assassination took place.
And because he was there, he had access to a lot of inside information, which he published in Blood, Money, and Power, How LBJ Killed JFK. Meanwhile, Roger Stone has also published a book, The Man Who Killed Kennedy, The Case Against LBJ. Roger has been a longtime student of the assassination.
And it's another book that I recommend as to what really happened in Dallas on 22 November 1963. Extremely interesting is The Last Confession of E. Howard Hunt, which even Rolling Stone published about.
When he was on his deathbed, as I explained or believe, he laid out the chain of command to his son St. John, whom I have met and confirmed.
Telling him that the orders went from LBJ to Cord Meyer, who was the head of covert ops for the CIA, to David Attlee Phillips, who was CIA in charge of the Western Hemisphere, to William Harvey, who was in charge of CIA assassinations worldwide, to David Sanchez Morales for the specific hit in Dallas.
Putting the pieces together.
George H.W. Bush and Edward Lansdale were on the ground in Dallas.
Exposing the cover-up narrows the range of possible suspects.
Noel Twyman was the first to lay out the dimensions of the plot.
It was hatched in Los Angeles in 1963 at the DNC convention.
Here, I may have been the first to recognize that the figure in this photograph of individuals standing in front of the book depository was George H.W. Bush, who, of course, claimed to have been elsewhere at the time the murder took place.
Here you have a number of CIA individuals who, at the corner of the intersection of Main Street and Houston, paying their last respects.
Clear indication of foreknowledge.
Meanwhile, we have the three trams who are escorted through Dealey Plaza.
Now, they are, by proper identification, Charles Rogers I, also called Frenchie, who used the alias of Richard Montoya.
Charles Harrelson, the tallest in the middle, who is the father of the actor Woody Harrelson.
And Chauncey Marvin Holt III, not E. Howard.
This is Chauncey Marvin Holt, H-O-L-T, not E. Howard Hunt, carrying the bag.
I actually met Chauncey at a restaurant at the Rose Bowl in California during a visit there and confirmed various aspects of the story where he told me that He had been working at the Los Angeles Stampin' Stationery Store as a counterfeiter and forger.
He was a very talented artist, painter.
I have one of his sketches of charcoal changing of the guard on my wall here, which he endorsed for me.
He told me that he was involved in preparing 15 sets of Secret Service credentials for use in and around Dealey Plaza.
That he was instructed to leave them in a red pickup truck that would be found in a parking lot beyond the grassy knoll, which was used by the Dallas police.
That when he arrived there, the truck wasn't present.
So he wandered around Dealey Plaza.
He told me he saw more hitmen and assassins than you'd find at a Soldiers of Fortune convention.
He returned to the parking area and found the truck.
He left the credentials there.
And per instructions, he and the man he knew as Richard Montoya, actually Charles Rogers and Charles Harrelson, headed to a boxcar at a railroad yard behind the parking area where they were instructed to look for a boxcar that would appear to be locked but be unlocked.
When they climbed in, they discovered it was loaded with explosives, ammunition, and weapons.
They thought they were free and clear when the train started to pull out, but in fact it was called back.
The railroad supervisor thought something was wrong.
The police arrested them and walked them through Dealey Plaza.
This was all done in a highly inappropriate fashion.
My belief is that had Lee not worked out as a lone demented gunman, that Harrelson, Rogers, and Holt would have been the backup.
Patsy's held to be responsible.
Now, here it's very interesting.
This individual walking past him has been identified by L. Fletcher Proudy and by Charles Kulak, a very celebrated Marine Corps general, as Edward Lansdale, who is responsible for assassinations around the world, especially the...
Project Phoenix in Vietnam, assassinating community village leaders suspected to be Viet Cong sympathizers.
He had a distinctive ring, a distinctive gate.
There's no doubt it was, in fact, Edward Lansdale who is walking past.
And here you'll see not only we have George H. W. Bush there in front of the Book Compository, we have Lansdale waiting to speak to him.
No doubt to debrief him of what took place here, where Lansdale appears to have been responsible for positioning the shooters and determining the sequence of shots.
Now, Noel Twyman published a brilliant book in 1997 entitled Bloody Treason, where he addressed the issue of how could this have been a large-scale conspiracy and no one have talked.
And on a single page, he enumerated a whole bunch of figures who did talk, meaning the question is predicated on a false assumption.
Carlos Marcello bragged about it.
Santo Travagante as well.
Joseph Miltier said he'd be shot with a rifle from a building.
Johnny Roselli told Jack Anderson, Ruby was their man, ordered to silence Oswald.
David F. Phillips, you know, who, as I said, was in the chain of command, spoke about it.
Madeleine Brown, of course, said Lyndon implied before he was killed it was going to happen, and you know more.
Marita Lawrence, CIA, stated in a deposition.
Frank Sturgis told her he and a group of anti-Castro Cubans were involved.
Sturgis, indeed, appears to have been the one who fired the shot that entered the right temple.
Sam Giancana confessed to the crime of being involved in 1966. There's been a major movement to try to blame it on the mafia, but it was far more elaborate than that.
Chauncey himself even went on A radio show talked about it in his role.
Charles Harrelson admitted that he'd been involved.
Jim Hicks said he was a communication guy.
We got a photograph of him with a walkie-talkie hanging out of his back pocket.
Jack Ruby, you know, talked about this would never have happened if Annalise Stevenson had been the vice president, among other comments.
And, of course, we know Billy Saul and the others.
So, if you recognize that, in fact, the alterations of the evidence include editing the x-rays that conceal a massive blow out to the back of the head as David Manning discovered, substituting another brain for the brain of JFK, as Bob Livingston, a world authority on the human brain, concluded that a film had been massively edited and revised.
While under control of the CIA, as John P. Costello, for example, has established.
Then you've got to recognize that many of the suspects who've been advanced could not have performed these acts.
The KGB, for example, could not have extended its reach into Bethesda Naval Hospital to alter x-rays under control of agents of the Secret Service and medical officers of the U.S. Navy.
Pro or anti-Castro Cubans couldn't have substituted another brain for the brain of JFK. The mafia could not have got its hands on the Zapruder film and the other home movies to massively edit them, which means you're reduced to a very small number of alternatives.
That was a black op, primarily with the CIA, or that it was a coup d'etat led by Lyndon Johnson.
For which the evidence is substantial and detailed, as I'm explaining here.
Meanwhile, here's an old book about bloody treason, 1997, where he was the first to lay it out.
I saw the most perfect combination with the greatest probability of success was the combined CIA military with the Secret Service, with the Mafia, with LBJ and Hoover.
With LBJ and the...
Conspiracy group Hoover could have been relied upon to fall in line, and really in his role as the FBI director, to manage the cover-up.
Thus, he talks about the alternatives.
All the mafia had to do is get the CIA involved and have CIA recruit Secret Service and LBJ. All LBJ had to do is recruit the CIA, who'd use the mafia as needed.
And the Secret Service.
And indeed, that's how it fell out.
Thus, if you want to look at the big picture, the sponsors, the individuals and groups who want to jack out, primarily for reasons of policy, except in the case of the anti-Castro Cubans, for the sake of revenge,
because they believe that Jack had betrayed them at the Bay of Pigs, even though he had, in fact, insisted that there should be no overt U.S. military engagement.
Included the CIA. Jack was threatening to shadow it into a thousand pieces.
After the Bay of Pigs, he'd had Bobby and Maxwell Taylor investigate what had gone wrong.
He discovered...
That the Soviet Union had learned the date of the invasion, that they'd shared it with Fidel Castro, that the CIA had learned that the Soviets knew and Castro knew we were coming, so everyone involved was aware except for the commander-in-chief, who undoubtedly would have called it off, and Jack, as a consequence, was threatening to shatter the CIA into a thousand pieces.
He removed the deputy directors involved at the time, including Richard Bissell and Charles Cabell, who was a lieutenant general in the Air Force, and the brother of Earl Cabell, who was the mayor of Dallas at the time of the motorcade.
The Joint Chiefs threw in because they felt Jack had become an obstacle to combating communism.
Not only had he refused to invade Cuba, Contrary to the unanimous recommendation, he'd also gone ahead and signed an above-ground test ban treaty with the Soviet Union, contrary to their unanimous opposition.
And now he was pulling all of our forces out of Vietnam by the end of 1964, where they believed a stand had to be taken against the expansion of international godless communism.
Many of you will recall The domino theory.
That if Vietnam fell, so do with Cambodia, Laos, Indonesia.
It would extend to the Philippines.
It was all utter nonsense.
And in fact, the Vietnamese were fiercely nationalistic.
They were not under the influence of Red China, whom they would have, you know, as adamantly opposed militarily as they did.
The French initially, who were defeated at Den Ban Phu, and then the Americans who picked up this colonial war.
Well, let me add, the only explanation I ever got for our being involved in Vietnam was a half-an-hour presentation by Walter Cronkite.
This was around 1968, where he showed a map of the Continental Shelf off of Vietnam.
And how the international oil companies had already subdivided it because they believed it was rich with oil.
That was only broadcast once.
It was the only explanation I ever had for why we were there.
I've already explained the anti-Castro Cubans feeling Jack had betrayed them.
Then we had the mafia.
They may have believed they had an agreement with Joe Kennedy that They would ensure that Chicago went for Jack and Illinois to guarantee he won the election.
But Bobby and Jack would never have agreed to such a thing.
And in fact, after Jack appointed Bobby, attorney general, he brought about more indictments and convictions than ever before in the history of the mob.
Edgar had sex dossiers on members of Congress.
He used to blackmail them, but the mob had a sex dossier on Edgar in, shall we say, compromising position with his close personal aide, Clyde Tolson.
So that they were able to blackmail him into remaining silence about the existence of organized crime until the Joe Velocci hearing.
where it was all spelled out in such detail.
It was no longer...
Politically possible to deny the Fed.
The eastern establishment surrounding the Fed was upset with Jack because he'd had the Department of Treasury print United States notes rather than Federal Reserve.
I recall as a young Green Corps officer holding one of these in my hand and said United States note red in Boston instead of Federal Reserve green because Jack thought it was absurd.
For the United States to be paying interest to a consortium of private banks for publishing the currency of the United States when the Department of the Treasury could print it at no interest whatsoever.
And let me observe, the overwhelming majority of our national debt is interest on interest owed to the Fed.
It's absurd.
Jack wanted to end it.
With any luck, Trump might actually do it.
The Texas oilmen were incensed because Jack was threatening to cut their oil depletion allowance, a massive tax write-off, close to 25%, on the ground that oil was a finite resource.
And by pumping it out of the ground, they were putting themselves out of business.
It was a fantastic claim.
And we now know, of course, that oil is naturally produced by Earth in abundance.
It's an endless supply of oil naturally produced by Earth, which had it been known at the time would have made all the more the claim they deserve such attack right off absurd.
Israel.
Jack was at loggerheads with David Ben-Gurion, a founder and the first prime minister of Israel, over Israel's desire to develop nuclear weapons, which Jack thought would lead to a nuclear arms race in the Middle East and adamantly opposed.
Reports have it Ben-Gurion became enraged and directed the Mossad to participate in the assassination while submitting his own resignation.
And of course, Lyndon, who himself wanted to become President of the United States.
Now, if you look at the mechanics, the shooters, the supervisors and coordinators, we have eight different shooters, one for each of the sponsors.
You know, when I began looking at this and discovered the shot in the back was fired by a deputy sheriff, Harry Weatherford, from the top of the county records building, that the shot in the throat had been fired by Jack Lawrence, who was an Air Force expert.
From inside the triple underpass, using a weapon, by the way, that appears to have been given to him by Colonel LeMay, the head of the Air Force, so he'd be acting in assurance that this was in the best interest of the United States, I began to piece together and discovered that, indeed, each of these parties had their own hit man, including Lyndon Mack Wallace.
It was firing at John Connolly in the mistaken belief that was Ralph Yarborough, a liberal Texas senator whom Lyndon despised.
They had a huge fight that morning where Lyndon wanted to get Connolly out and Yarborough in, but Jack overrode him on the ground that the chief executive of the United States should ride with the chief executive of the state.
Plus, then, we have the facilitators.
Lyndon of the assassination, about which I shall say more, Edgar of the cover-up, with a project manager, appears to have been Alan Dulles, whom Jack retired with great fanfare, because, of course, he knew he was atop of the pyramid.
Dulles had a very negative attitude toward JFK. Even remarking at one point, that little S-H-I-T thought he was God.
And I believe that Dulles was instrumental in putting all the pieces together.
So, here we have what is the single most important book on the origins of the assassination by Phil Nelson.
LBJ, mastermind of the JFK assassination.
It's sometimes been argued the word mastermind is not applicable here, because working out all the details would not have been something Lyndon would have done, and that is correct.
But he was the source of the origin of the plot, as I'm going to explain.
And therefore, some think Alan Dulles ought to be regarded as a mastermind.
In any case, you have the big picture here of how it was done.
There were actually 10 to 12 shots fired in Dealey Plaza, depending on how many were fired by Mac Wallace.
It was on the opposite side of the book depository from the sixth floor window, firing one to three shots at Conley in the mistaken belief that it was Ralph Yorbrough.
Now, the first shot to the back was fired from the top of the county records building by the deputy sheriff.
Harry Weatherford, shallow shot, only went about as far as a second knuckle on your little finger.
It appears to have worked its way out, by the way, at Parkland Hospital, where Sam Kinney, who was the driver of the Secret Service Cadillac, was given a bucket of water and a sponge to wash out the blood and brains, which, of course, was a destruction of evidence.
He told his neighbor he found a whole slog there.
They took it inside and left it on a stretcher.
When it turned out that one of the shots fired from the Daltecs had missed and injured a bystander by the name of James Tagg, who actually had a scratch on his cheek from a flak of concrete from having hit the curb.
They had to subtract one bullet, so now they had to account for all the wounds based on only two shots.
And that's when they contrived the magic bullet theory, claimed the slug found on the stretcher at Parkland was the magic bullet, but it was all fantastic.
As David Manning, for example, has proven, it wasn't even anatomically possible.
He took a patient with similar chest and neck dimensions to JFK and plotted the official trajectory, which was moved now from the...
Five and a half inches below the collar to the right of the spinal column to the base of the back of the neck, plotted the trajectory, and now the wound to the throat became a wound of accident instead of a wound of entry, claiming falsely it would not have hit any bony structures, but as David demonstrated, it's anatomically impossible because bony structures made the shot impossible.
So these were three shots.
Fired from the Daltex by the anti-Castro-Cuban Nestor Tony Escadro, using a man-licker Carcano in far better condition than Oswald.
The three shots, the one that missed and injured the distant bystander, one that hit a chrome strip above the windshield, and the third, after the driver, William Greer, pulled the limousine to the left into a halt to make sure Jack would be killed, the back of the head.
His shot hit Jack in the back of the head.
He slumped forward.
He was wearing a back brace, a corset, very firmly stitched, tied up, so he had very limited mobility.
Jack eased him back up, was looking him right in the face when he was hit by that bullet in the right handball, fired by Frank Sturgis, the mob shooter, from the interception at a triple underpass on the grassy note.
There's an above-ground sewer opening.
Near simultaneous, and this one is not shown here, the Israeli shooter appears to be to have been in the curbside sewer opening.
As far as bringing the limo to a halt, they actually had yellow paint on the curbing as to where Greer had to break, which was right opposite that curbside sewer opening.
That appears to have been fired by Clyde Forshaw.
Who represented the Bronwyn family out of Toronto on behalf of Israel.
That was a shot hit Jack in the side of the head.
There was another shot fired by the CIA shooter, Roscoe White, who had joined the Dallas PD. It was the easiest shot.
He had a handgun, but he would have hurt Jackie, and they were under strict instructions that Jackie should not be harmed.
So he pulled his shot, it wound up in the grass, and we had a Dallas lieutenant, by the name of the day, pick it up, but it was never seen again.
Turns out now, the eighth shooter was behind a tree here in the grass office at the grassy knoll.
You wouldn't think there was even a concealment there where he could have hidden, but I've seen two photographs in the hands of two different experts standing holding his rifle.
He's the only one of the eight for whom I do not have a name-ranked serial number, the shots they took, and the effects they had.
Meanwhile, the whole business originated in Los Angeles in 1960 when JFK beat LBJ for the nomination of president of the Democratic Party.
Jack invited Stuart Syming into Missouri to be his running mate, but he gave him overnight to think about it.
Meanwhile, Bobby went by the Johnson suite to extend a pro forma symbolic invitation to run with Jack and was dumbfounded when Lyndon jumped on it.
He threatened to expose that Jack had Addison's disease and wasn't expected to live a long, healthy life, that among his dalliances had been one with a beautiful woman who turned out to be a spy for East Germany, information provided to him by Edgar.
And that if he were not on the ticket, then any legislative proposal sent out by the White House would be dead on arrival because in his role as a powerful majority leader of the Senate, he'd bottle them up.
Jack and Bobby were flummoxed.
They tried to figure a way out, but Lyndon and Adam boxed in, and they had to accede to his demand.
The only time Jack ever had to change a political decision in his entire career.
When one of Lyndon's wealthy backers learned he'd be on the ticket with Jack, he burst into the Johnson Suite cursing and swearing, because now LBJ would help JFK to become president.
Bobby Baker took him into a bedroom and explained what they had in mind.
He came out all smiles, saying he thought, It was an excellent plan.
Meanwhile, Bobby Baker would publicly state subsequently that Jack would not live out his first term and that he would die a violent death.
And in the course of events, Leonard would send Cliff Gardner, his chief administrative assistant, down to Dallas to make sure all the plans were in place for the assassination.
Meanwhile, the fourth of my books on the assassination, the first, Assassination Science, 1998, the second, Murder in Dealey Plaza, 2003, The Greats of Rudolf Helmholtz, 2003, JFK, Who, How, and Why, 2017, remains available at Moonrock Books for anyone who would like to follow up and learn more.
Meanwhile, John, I'm very appreciative for having this opportunity.
And at your leisure, if there are questions anyone would like to raise, I'd be very glad to address them.
John.
Since John appears to be disconnected, and I know he was...
Having to travel.
There we go.
And we have another fellow here.
I was just saying, Dr. Fetzer, you're clearly a radio man because you got that to be 45 minutes on the nose, so bravo.
Does Michael Fisher have a question?
Yeah, I just got here because it's 6.46 in the morning here.
Michael, you're good.
He is our next speaker, right, John?
The next one is Dylan.
Michael presented yesterday, but he's been very, very kind to drop in here.
Dr. Fisher, I had a question about JFK here, and that is...
So you've laid out a number of culprits, and do you see one being more important than the other?
You mentioned the CIA. There are others who say that they put more of the onus on Israel being behind Johnson in particular.
Well, as I explained, John, there were eight sponsors, and Israel was only one of the eight.
And I believe all of them have roughly equal weight.
So there are those who claim that LBJ himself was what is sometimes called a crypto Jew and may have had an interest in Israel.
If you read Phil Nelson's book, Lyndon was a narcissist.
He was very much into himself.
He was ruthless.
He was brilliant.
He was a political manipulator.
He could spice up a man's strength and weakness virtually instantaneously.
He was all in for LBJ. Well, I do think he did take actions, including in 1967 with the USS Liberty, that were designed to help Israel and to promote its interests in the Middle East.
This was a case of all the way with LBJ. And then another question.
The way you laid it out, and this is interesting as we're recording in the middle of March, near the Ides of March.
It seems almost just like Julius Caesar was killed by all the patricians of Rome to spread out the blame.
As you laid it out, it almost seems like the blame or the guilt of killing Kennedy...
Was spread over all of these factions almost with the same idea that you couldn't pin down a single one.
This confederacy would be so big that you couldn't really go after it.
Yeah, and by each of them having their own shooter, John, they were like tied together in a blood oak because they'd know if any one of them got exposed, that would be a threat to all of them being exposed.
So the plot itself was ingenious.
And because you can focus on any one element, such as the mob, and run up a blind alley that way, it's very clever.
It was not A or B or C or D. It was all of the above.
By the way, one of the most interesting cases is that a James Files, when the House Select Committee completed its investigation in 77-78 and published a final report of 79, they suggested there may have been a second they suggested there may have been a second shooter on the grass and roll.
He and I even had dinner together right here in Madison.
And he explained to me how once the government takes out a position, it will never stay.
And I think that's what happened here.
Now, when Files came out with his confession of an assassin, he talked about taking the shot that entered the right standpoint.
He did not talk about the list that set up his shot.
He did not talk about Jack having been hitting the head, slumped hard, knees, and back up, which had he actually been there, would have been essential to his scoring.
I therefore conclude that.
And I explained to him and his wife, and they have several books about his promoted role that I concluded.
He was fulfilling a role as the second gunman of the draft.
Oh, I see.
Yes.
Sorry about that here.
Just one final question I had here with Dr. Fisher.
I'd be interested, what was the reception of Jack Kennedy's death in Canada?
Was it such a memorable moment as it was for America in terms of even pop culture or memory?
Yeah, so I'll be like 12, 13 years old.
I just remember, you know, coming home from school and it was interrupted on the news.
So Canada pays attention to big stuff in America.
Like, that's just a fact.
And we're so connected to your media.
So, yeah, it was a big interruption in our programming.
And so all of a sudden, you know, we're getting the news.
We see the scenes.
And it was for me personally and for Canada, I would say, just an incredible shock.
I mean...
For Americans, you know, obviously a different kind of shock, but it was.
So that tells me a lot about, you know, the cultural interplay between these two nations and a leader is a leader.
So this would be, in my experience, the first leader ever seen to be assassinated.
I don't think I've ever seen a real human murdered on television, right?
It's also that.
It's like...
As a child, you just never quite saw it.
You saw comics, you saw movies, you saw dramas, but this was real.
And so there was something about the reality of it.
And then what sunk in, I think, is, oh, the world is not as friendly as it is.
And it's right in the heart of America where we get to watch that unfriendliness.
And that's just my very narrow historical perspective.
You know, there's a bigger world out there.
America was, you know, part of my world.
I grew up in the 60s, 70s, you know, revolution time.
Go ahead, Jim.
Michael, did you have another question you wanted to raise?
I'd be glad to.
I do, I do.
And it would be, you know, of all the wonderful and amazing things, no doubt you studied, why did you jump on this with such, you know, vigor?
And so can you give me that first kernels of, you know, the...
The part of your personality, the part of your educational background, etc., that would go, I'm jumping on this.
I haven't heard that story.
When Jack was whacked, I was anchored out aboard the USS Iwo Jima, an LPH landing platform helicopter.
It doesn't need the big stable like a carrier for fixed-wing aircraft.
In Kaohsiung Harbor, Formosa.
And the officer at the deck of the mortar battery, of which I was a fire direction officer, awakened me at 3.30 to tell me Jack had been shot.
Then an hour later, they caught the guy, done it, and he was a communist.
I thought then that was pretty fast work.
When I returned to the U.S., I began casually studying the assassination.
Picked up a book by a fellow named Josiah Thompson, who is also a...
Professor of philosophy, I would become.
He had UDT. I was in the Marine Corps.
I felt an affinity.
And he actually had a lot of evidence that there was a conspiracy involved, including the double-hit theory, how in the Zapruder film they merged the shot to the back of the head, where he saw it forward, with a shot to the right temple.
And they took out too many frames to make it back and to the left, you know, violently.
So anyone who looks at the excellent version says, how could anyone doubt he was shot from in front?
Now, in 1991, in the wake of the release of Oliver Stone's film JFK, I was just lying in bed, drinking a cup of coffee, reading a paper, when my wife says, you won't believe this, came and flipped on the TV. And there was a very distinguished-looking fellow,
turned out to be the editor-in-chief of the Journal of the American Medical Association, George Lundberg, saying that they were publishing interviews with the two pathologists.
This would be Humes and Boswell from Bethesda.
There was a third, a colonel from the army named Schenk.
And that, you know, he was attacking everyone who had done serious work on the assassination, from Mark Lane to David Lifton, whose book, Best Evidence, I regard as the most important ever published in the history of the assassination, were minor sequels to David Lifton's work.
He was attacking Charles Crenshaw as a physician who had been in trauma room number one, the last physician to observe the body, close JFK's eyes.
For example, as they wrapped him in sheets.
And it appeared to me, if someone at this level of distinction were going to abuse his journal for political purposes, perhaps some of us with personal backgrounds and ability ought to become involved.
Now, I had a lot of editorial experience already as an associate editor for Synthes, an international journal for epistemology, methodology, and the philosophy of science.
And this was a case that involved Technical issues, high degrees of confidence.
And when I followed letters in JAMA, Journal of the AMA, protesting, one from David W. Manning struck me, and I reached out to David and said, let us collaborate on a long article or a book.
And he agreed.
He was about to enter the National Archives for the first time.
And he told me he thought he would discover evidence of a second shot to the head.
At that point, we only...
I thought there was one, but also that the autopsy x-rays had been altered.
He discovered both.
Others joined us, including Bob Livingston, the World Authority, and Charles Crenshaw himself contributed to the first book, Assassination Science, exposing the coprop in major elements, which was so successful it went through 14 printings, Michael.
That's my most successful book by far.
And, you know, I've become very deeply involved in conspiracy research ever since, seeking to explain that conspiracy theories are theories, and therefore they can be evaluated by the same criteria as theories in science, or my own background with a PhD in the history and the philosophy of science put me in a perfect position to pursue this.
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