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The Raw Deal (15 March 2025) with Featured guest Nannette Carley

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	I need somebody, help!
	Not just anybody, help!
	You know I need someone, help!
	When I was young, so much younger than today, I never needed anybody's help in any way.
	But now these days are gone, I'm not so self-assured.
	Now I find my gentle mind, I don't burn up the doors.
	Help me if you can, I'm feeling down.
	And I do appreciate you being around.
	Help me get my feet back on the ground.
	Won't you please help me?
	This is Jim Fetzer, your host on The Raw Deal, right here on Revolution Radio Studio B, this 14th day of March, 2025.
	Brian Davidson, co-host, is on a special assignment.
	I do have a featured guest who's experiencing problems of a kind that could affect one and all, involving the seizure of her home.
	It's truly outrageous.
	I think you're going to find this story as disturbing as do I. Meanwhile, much going on in Eastern Europe.
	Trump reported negotiators were headed to Russia right now.
	Daily Mail reporting.
	This was from the 12th.
	President Trump said Wednesday, negotiators are headed to Russia right now.
	For talks on a possible ceasefire with Ukraine after Kiev agreed to a 30-day truce.
	Trump did not give further details, but the White House later said his special envoy, Steve Witkoff, was going to Moscow this week.
	People are going to Russia right now as we speak, and hopefully we can get a ceasefire from Russia.
	Trump told reporters in the Oval Office.
	During a meeting with Ireland's Prime Minister, now bear in mind, Russia has won the war.
	Russia has all the cards.
	Zelensky has none.
	Yet he continues to act as though he were in control and could manage the outcome.
	Here we have a preliminary report.
	Putin signals he's open to ceasefire as Witkoff.
	Arise for talk.
	This is now dated the 13th.
	Russian President Putin has signals he's open to a ceasefire in Ukraine, but that he has questions about the 30-day U.S.-Ukraine proposal that need to be discussed.
	Indeed, the idea itself is the right one.
	We definitely support what Putin said, according to the New York Times.
	But there are questions we need to discuss.
	I think we need to talk them through with our American colleagues and partners.
	The American leader lists potential conditions for a 30-day truce going to guarantee Ukraine would not be supplied with more weapons.
	We also want guarantees.
	That during the 30-day ceasefire, Ukraine will not conduct mobilization, will not train soldiers, and will not receive weapons.
	Yes.
	He also questioned who would monitor the ceasefire.
	Who will determine where and who has violated a potential ceasefire agreement along a 2,000-kilometer line?
	Who will attribute blame for any violations?
	These are all questions that require thorough...
	Examination from both sides.
	The man is nobody's fool.
	Meanwhile, we have Zelensky declaring, Kiev won't see territory.
	What strong U.S. response if Russia rejects a ceasefire, once again I say.
	He's acting as though he were in control of the situation when he's actually already lost the war.
	And how can he...
	Claim there won't be any territorial concessions.
	Russia is not going to abandon what it's taken from Ukraine, including Crimea, the Donbass, several other oblasts.
	It's not going to give up that territory.
	And what can Ukraine do about it?
	They have lost.
	President Zelensky expressed his understanding of the ceasefire proposed by Ukraine in America officially this week, saying his country would not make any territorial concessions.
	Additionally, he expects strong steps from President Trump should Moscow reject the plan.
	In other words, this is a tale wagging the dog.
	Discussing a ceasefire proposal on Wednesday, Zelensky said, we are fighting for our independence.
	How the hell is that the case?
	Therefore, We will not recognize any occupied territory as Russians adding.
	Our people have fought for this.
	Our heroes died.
	How many injured?
	How many passed?
	No one will forget about it.
	This is the most important red line.
	We'll not let anyone forget about this crime against Ukraine.
	Well, on the contrary, the whole problem originated in 2014 when Victoria Nuland, He engineered a coup in Kiev to depose the Russia-friendly president at the time and replace him with a Western puppet, of whom Zelensky is a successor.
	And virtually from that transition, Kiev has bombarded the Donbass, whose population is...
	Almost entirely ethnic, Russian-speaking, Russian-friendly artillery barrages that have killed over the years as many as 2,000 in the Donbass.
	Indeed, it was learning that Kiev was about to initiate an all-out assault on the Donbass that would have brought about a slaughter comparable to what's going on in Gaza against the Palestinians by Israel that prompted Putin to intervene with his special military operation.
	And he used that designation because he didn't want this to be exaggerated, blown up into a war and all that.
	He was really to protect the people of the Donbass.
	None of this, of course, is being acknowledged by Zelensky to wit that they are the offenders, that they are the aggressors, that Putin only intervened in defense of a population under siege.
	Meanwhile, Charles Freeman says, are we talking about Minsk 3.0?
	I mean, what's happening here?
	Minsk 3.0.
	Here we have some discussion.
	Great day.
	I am joined today by Charles Freeman to discuss diplomacy, and this is something that...
	Ambassador Freeman can inform us about as former U.S. Assistant Secretary of Defense, who also worked with Nixon to open up China in the 1970s, former ambassador to Saudi Arabia, and also, of course, having a role in constructing the European security architecture after the Cold War.
	And we were just saying before we turned on the camera that We are not living in a golden era of diplomacy necessarily.
	And I thought we can start by addressing some of the discussions which have been going on now between the United States and Ukraine.
	I refer to them as diplomacy.
	You had a different opinion.
	So how are you reading this situation?
	Because I find it very, very confusing after all these talks about recognizing mutual security concern.
	Addressing the source of the war that is the broken down European security system.
	And suddenly we ended up with a 30-day ceasefire with no political solution, no plan for what should happen thereafter.
	And of course, the US and Europeans appear to want to use this time to rearm Ukraine.
	And of course, Ukraine will continue mobilization.
	How are you reading this?
	Are they setting up?
	Trying to set up Ukraine as a frozen conflict?
	Or how are you reading the situation?
	No, I don't think that's it.
	I think this is all pretty tactical.
	If you start out, if you go back to where we began, Europeans have no idea whatsoever about how to make peace in Europe or in Ukraine.
	All of their discussions are about weapons and armies deploying and armies which, by the way, they don't have.
	But anyway...
	Peacekeepers when there's no peace to keep and various other things that aren't very realistic.
	So the first thing that had to be done was to set some parameters with the Russians for a discussion, for diplomacy, in which the Europeans could eventually join.
	But that happened in Riyadh, I think.
	I'm not privy to everything that was discussed there, but very clearly The United States made a grand gesture of an opening to Russia, which was well received, and offering both geopolitical and economic cooperation.
	So that was the first thing.
	The second thing was, Ukraine has consistently refused to negotiate.
	So it has agreed on several occasions to cease fires.
	It did that a couple of times.
	During the civil war with the insurgents in Donbas, the separatists, it did it when the Russians were in the suburbs of Kyiv as part of the Istanbul talks.
	It's never kept its agreements.
	But anyway, Zelenskyy was gladly refusing to negotiate.
	So he's now agreed to negotiate.
	That is an achievement.
	He also has put forward an American suggestion and an offer of a 30-day ceasefire.
	Well, a ceasefire between the Americans and the Ukrainians, presumably, because the Russians are not part of this.
	And we're very sure the Russians do not want a ceasefire.
	They want a peace.
	And they are prepared to carry on negotiations while fighting.
	Much as the Chinese and the North Koreans were, and the South Koreans, in the Korean War.
	So what just happened in Judah was essentially a repositioning of Mr. Zelensky in Ukraine in favor of negotiations.
	My name is Bailey Moody.
	I play wheelchair basketball.
	I'm sharing my game day rituals with Mary.
	He's making a lot of key points about Ukraine and its recalcitrance.
	Meanwhile, this may be the most important report we have at the moment.
	Putin in no rush to follow Trump time ceasefire proposal.
	Here's the report.
	Well, let me get it here.
	I think we have it.
	Putin playbook author Rebecca Cawthold joined Fox to discuss why she believes Putin in principle approval of the ceasefire is not authentic.
	Get this.
	He has serious questions for President Trump and that the two leaders may need to hold a phone call soon.
	It was a very promising statement because other people are saying different things and you don't know if they have anything to really, if they have any meaning.
	I don't know.
	I think some of them were making statements.
	He put out a very promising statement, but it wasn't complete.
	And yeah, I'd love to meet with him or talk to him.
	But we have to get it over with fast.
	Rebecca Kappler is a former Russian-born former U.S. Defense Intelligence Officer and the author of Putin's Playbook and joins us now.
	Rebecca, good morning to you.
	So yesterday, the headline was that Vladimir Putin agrees to a ceasefire in principle, which sounds good, but you say this is really a no disguised as a yes, which means things are about to get complicated.
	So what is Putin demanding here and where do things go?
	Sure.
	So Putin's demands have always been the following.
	No NATO membership for Ukraine.
	No U.S. boots on the ground on the battlefield.
	And no security, peacekeeping forces there.
	And also, in addition to that, Putin wants— To transform the entire relationship between Russia and the U.S., and that means to completely reverse everything that took place during former President Biden's term, and that is bring the Russian diplomats back, which literally a lot of them are intelligence officers.
	Open back the consulates that were shutting down, that were basically bases for spying operations for Russia.
	Remove the sanctions.
	He's not saying all of that in that speech, but you have to basically read between the lines.
	It is my assessment that Putin is not going to accept.
	The peace deal.
	Some of what's on the table in the proposed ceasefire, an immediate 30-day ceasefire, the U.S. resuming security and intel to Ukraine, and a prisoner exchange.
	But there was also a leaked document, Rebecca, showing Russia's plan is to prolong this war for years, past 2026. Russia, of course, denies that.
	Do you believe that ultimately what's in that plan is their plan?
	99.9 percent.
	I mean, remember, in Putin's playbook, my book, I laid out very clearly what Putin's playbook is, his strategy, which is a multi-pronged strategy that he spent a quarter of a century developing.
	Okay?
	And we—remember, three years ago, we were here on the show, and you asked me, Todd, how do we start Putin's playbook?
	And what was my answer?
	I said, It was almost impossible.
	Why?
	Because I know that we don't have a counter strategy.
	Every single war game that we conducted back in the intelligence community ended up in Russia winning the war.
	And neither us nor the Europeans.
	Never bothered to develop a counter-strategy, even though 10 years prior to the invasion we knew about it.
	So I'm confident that that leaked document is correct.
	Okay, so Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent said on CNBC yesterday that Trump is willing to apply maximum pressure on both sides, including sanctions that reach the highest scale on Russia.
	Would that be considered a counter-strategy?
	It's just one piece of it.
	A counter-strategy usually involves several prongs.
	It's military, it's intelligence, it's diplomatic, it's what we call dive.
	Informational, you know, cyber warfare, space warfare.
	This is just one prong.
	And sanctions, we've been sanctioning Russia for since 2014. That's a decade, right?
	What did it do?
	Some of it actually backfired at Europeans and at us, and Putin...
	Sanction-proofed his economy seven years prior to the invasion.
	He took several measures, including de-dollarization of foreign exchange reserves, import substitution program, demanding that the Russian military-industrial complex...
	It produces their own stuff indigenously and everything else, so they don't depend on the imports, right?
	They believe, the Russians that is, that they can weather these sanctions because so far sanctions have not changed Putin's behavior.
	My assessment is that it's going to be tough for them.
	This time, but they think there's nothing that Besson can do that Biden hasn't already done.
	Well, NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte was with President Trump yesterday.
	This was, of course, a big topic of conversation.
	He's going to be on Fox& Friends later this morning as well.
	They're finally picking up their end of the bargain, you know, defending themselves as they are.
	I think that she's pretty good, that she knows what she's talking about, that Putin has already sanctioned the Russian economy, certainly.
	Since the U.S. imposed all these sanctions, the ruble has become stronger.
	Russia has thrived and survived.
	BRIC is becoming more important.
	Meanwhile, Zelensky claims Putin not interested in peace will delay a deal.
	This is pure propaganda.
	President Putin will drag out a deal for a ceasefire because he's not interested in peace.
	Ukrainian President Zelensky warned Thursday night, last night.
	While President Trump remained optimistic about progress of the discussions, the Ukrainian president, during his evening address to Ukrainians, said Putin's response to the ceasefire was very predictable.
	He added, Putin has demanded so many preconditions that nothing will work out at all, or that it will not work out for as long as possible.
	He also argued Putin pretending to be willing to accept the agreement, but at the moment he is, in fact, preparing to reject it.
	Putin does this often.
	He doesn't say no outright, but he drags things out, makes reasonable solutions impossible.
	But there's nothing reasonable about him having another siege fire that would enable Ukraine to rearm.
	We stalk its forces, which is what happened under the Minsk Agreement, as even Angela Merkel, who was a signatory to the Minsk Agreement, acknowledged in retrospect, Putin's not going to fall for it again.
	Meanwhile, there's a fascinating story about how Russia conducted a pipeline operation in order to defeat the Ukrainian forces in Kursk.
	This is really something.
	They might make a movie about this.
	A mission to help liberate Kursk took place under harsh condition.
	Soldiers explained remarkable bravery, forcing the enemy to retreat.
	And we've already explained how Ukrainian soldiers have been allowed by the Russians to return to Ukraine absent their weapons.
	They're being very humane about it.
	Is conducting a major counter-effective in Kursk, which was invaded by Ukrainian forces in August of 2024. In just the past 24 hours, Russian troops have liberated 12 settlements, recaptured over 100 square kilometers of territory.
	This week, the industrial zone in Sudsa, the largest...
	Russian city under control of the armed forces of Ukraine was also retaken.
	Ukrainian forces are retreating.
	This was made clear by the AFU commander-in-chief, General Alexander Siersky, who said that units are taking timely measures to maneuver the favorable defense lines.
	The dramatic shift in the situation on the front can be attributed to the success of Russian top secret Operation Patek or FLOW. A unit of 800 Russian soldiers walked, actually crawled, miles through an empty gas pipeline to infiltrate Ukrainian positions.
	Lower the details.
	Yes, 800. It was four and a half by four and a half pipeline.
	They had to make their way through it with their weapons to get behind the Ukrainian forces to surprise them.
	Prior to January 1st, 2025, gas was transported from Russia to Europe via the Urengoy-Pomery-Yuzkod pipeline, which passes through Ukrainian territory.
	Although Zelensky halted gas transit, the pipeline remains.
	Russian fighters decided to utilize the pipes to secretly approach the fortified positions of the Ukrainian armed forces near Sudsa.
	Preparation for the operation took about four months.
	The mission started in early March.
	It lasted just over a week.
	The primary goal was to conduct sabotage operations in enemy territory, compel Ukrainian forces to withdraw from occupied areas in Kursk, and move toward Sudsa, where they would be met by Russian troops.
	And it worked like a charm.
	I've been discussing this with a friend of mine who was a stuntman in Hollywood, and he just expressed admiration for how it was done, as do I, a former...
	By the way, here's a good question.
	Europeans have talked about conducting a rump operation where Macron especially has been outrageous in suggesting France could provide a nuclear umbrella for European nations, a coalition of the willing to fight Russia.
	Or it turns out he was blowing smoke.
	Because even under French law, French nukes aren't allowed to use for any other purpose than to defend France.
	Here we have a YouTube discussion about whether Europe...
	Could actually succeed.
	in ukraine daniel davis watching very carefully to see what's going on between first of all the united states and ukraine to try to come up with some kind of an agreement upon what they're going to negotiate with russia and then now even as we speak uh u.s representatives are on their way to moscow to to take those messages to russia and to vladimir putin to see what he's going to agree to a lot of people have been saying a lot of things of late uh and we're going to get into a lot of that to try to figure out just exactly where are we
	Are we any closer to actually ending the war?
	And is there a possibility that the United States could hand off to Europe and that Europe may be the one to pick up the heavy load and to see if they can either continue the war with Ukraine or with Russia or if they would themselves will reach a negotiated settlement?
	A lot of more moving parts here, very much unsettled as to what's going to happen right now.
	And to try to make some sense of it, we have Matthew Hovec, one of our favorite guests.
	Former State Department official, former combat Marine, good friend and friend of the show.
	Matt, welcome back.
	Hey, Danny.
	Good to see you.
	Well, listen, there's been a lot of moving parts here of late, so a lot to discuss.
	Obviously, in the current zone here, we had the big explosion in the Oval Office between Trump and Zelensky.
	A lot of the fallout that happened after that.
	A lot of glad-handing and back-slapping when Zelensky went to Europe afterwards.
	You know, they were always thumbs up, but then they're kind of like, yeah, but not much more than a thumb.
	I'm not sure how much more stuff we're going to give you because they're saying we're still relying on the United States.
	Meanwhile, the U.S. and Ukraine got back together again in Riyadh of late, and they said they agreed to, which surprised a lot of people because Zelensky was going in saying, I'm only going to agree to an air and sky ceasefire, but that's all.
	And he said he also wants a bunch of other stuff.
	They want freedom to do whatever they want.
	They want the possibility of joining NATO. They want a strong national defense, et cetera, all of which are empathetical to everything the Russians had been saying.
	But then he comes out of that meeting, and he completely changes to it.
	He said, OK, no, actually, a 30-day total ceasefire is cool.
	And then Steve Witkoff went off to Moscow to try to see if he can get the other side onto this.
	First of all, I wonder if you could just kind of comment on this dizzying.
	What activity that's been going on here and just where you see that that leaves the men who are actually fighting on the ground?
	Sure, Danny.
	I mean, essentially, this shows what we've been saying for years now, that to end this war, it's just a question of the willingness of the Americans and the Europeans to do so.
	And it's important to note that this war did not have to even begin.
	It didn't need to take place, except the Americans and the Europeans.
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	As I previously observed, I have a special guest today who is in a predicament that could affect virtually any of I have a special guest today who is in a predicament that could affect
	It appears to me, from what I've read of her brief, before the Supreme Court of Texas, that she's been subjected to a kind of scam to steal her home.
	Her name is Nanette Carley.
	She's been doing her best.
	to get some kind of justice here.
	Nanette, welcome to the Raw Deal.
	Please tell us a bit about your situation and how you came to submit a petition to the Supreme Court of Texas.
	Well, thank you so much for having me.
	I appreciate that.
	It actually began when The local taxing authorities began charging me a business property tax on a non-existent business in an empty house.
	And then they took that business property tax and attached it to all of my houses.
	And when I didn't pay it, they sued me for it.
	So that was the first suit where it started.
	They sued me for these business property taxes.
	Just for background, reading the brief.
	The property has an estimated value as specified in the brief of $750,000.
	So this is not like a woodshed.
	I mean, this is a very substantial property.
	And you are not conducting any business.
	You suggest it was actually vacant at the time.
	You are not residing there.
	So this initially looks really suspicious.
	Please do continue.
	It's even more convoluted than that because the house that they actually took was in another county, but under the same school district.
	So they originally charged the business property tax on a property in Harris County, Texas.
	But they seized my property in Montgomery County, Texas.
	The one in Harris County at the time was probably only worth about $150,000.
	But my one in Montgomery was, like you said, worth $755,000.
	So at that time, I dug my heels in and began to fight.
	And I have been disabled since birth.
	I have several genetic disorders that have caused me to, at times, just go to sleep for days, weeks, months.
	It's even happened for years.
	So I never knew.
	Early on that it was genetic or if it would ever go away or I would be healed or cured.
	So I knew I needed to take care of myself and shore myself up.
	So I worked like unbelievably for years on end with no vacations, no Christmas, no Holidays, no weekend at the Brownsville, nothing.
	And bought my properties and built my business all on cash.
	And then at the end of 2019, I went to sleep because of my illness right in the middle of my case.
	And the judge got a default ruling against me.
	Now, I had never had even a day in court.
	And she took a default ruling against me seizing the property.
	And I did try to get a rehearing.
	Of course, it was denied.
	I didn't find out that my house had even been sold or this had happened because this court won't send you its rulings half the time.
	And I didn't even find out.
	The house was sold in December of 2019. I didn't find out until April of 2020. And I had to move...
	And just for clarity, which house was it, the 150 or the 755?
	The 7.55.
	And I found out that I had to move by June.
	So that gave me two months.
	And I'm just waking up, so it takes me a while to become fully conscious.
	And I was just terrified.
	And, you know, when you're in fear, you can't think.
	So I just quickly moved out.
	And then I began to look at the property law and realized I could redeem the property.
	And I asked the purchaser to send me a bill.
	He did.
	And he way overinflated the bill by adding things that are not stipulated that he can add in the property code, per the property code.
	He also wrecked my property.
	I had a food forest for the church on my property and he completely changed the topography of the land and he took down my trees and filled in the swales with the berms and just flattened it.
	I was intending to sue him.
	Meanwhile, he sued me, saying that I didn't fully pay him.
	What had happened on the payment is it says in the Texas Property Code that if he and I can't agree on a price, then I can add it up myself, take an affidavit to the assessor-collector.
	And she will have that witnessed by two people.
	And when I file it into the property records, it's notice to all.
	So I went to the property records and I paid $101,650.
	$101,650 cash.
	And I got my receipt.
	And I took that and I filed it into the property records.
	Same day.
	And then I went to my property.
	And it just so happened the purchaser was there.
	I didn't know who he was.
	And I told him to get off my property.
	And he told me to get off his property.
	I called the sheriff.
	The sheriff deferred to the constable.
	The constable came out and said, if I stepped one foot on my property, he would take me to jail.
	So I made a tactical retreat.
	I looked again at the law.
	I thought about it all, and a couple months later, I went back.
	And I called the constable, and I said, I'm going back to my house.
	Come arrest me if you want.
	And I took a couple of YouTubers with me to film.
	And we went there and I called him and he didn't respond.
	And I changed the locks and gained entry to the house where I found they had torn up my house.
	They had taken off built-ins.
	Removed carpet.
	And so it took me another several months to get it back into shape and move in.
	Meanwhile, he was suing me for more money and I'm suing him for damage to the property.
	We go to that court and come to find out his attorney Is the husband of the judge that took the house in the default ruling.
	Wow.
	Yeah.
	What a blatant conflict of interest.
	She should not be ruling on this case whatsoever.
	Right.
	Right.
	So we go back into court.
	Now we're in front of another judge.
	But we're in the same county where all these people work together.
	So I never got any hearings granted.
	And they would make excuses.
	I have recordings.
	I always record them.
	And, you know, one of my court dates, they said, oh, well, you didn't notify the court.
	And, well, I have a stamped green copy that you signed for it.
	So they kept denying me court dates.
	Meanwhile, they give Sal Wechter, who is the purchaser, they give him two hearings.
	In the first hearing, they gave him back possession of my home.
	And they said the reason that they were doing it is because the affidavit that I filed with the assessor-collector used the wrong word.
	I used the word acknowledged instead of sworn.
	But that's not the law in Texas.
	The law says it's the intent, not the verbiage.
	That's first.
	Secondarily, the same judge, Judge Vincenzo Santini, has accepted the same worded affidavits before and after my case.
	So he accepts them regularly, but he didn't accept mine.
	There is no law in Texas by which you can undo a lawfully done redemption.
	Yet, with the stroke of a pen, this judge gave possession of my home back to this other man.
	And they notified me to move out.
	Now, at that time, I'm pro se in these cases, but I do have counsel.
	And I called and spoke to him and said, should I move my things out again?
	And he said, absolutely, get out now.
	And I said, but this is all illegal and it's all void.
	And he said, yeah, they're going to steal everything.
	Get it out.
	And thankfully, I listened because that's twice that he saved me.
	So I moved everything out, save a few things.
	My dog, after this being the third move, was so wigged out, she got sick in both bedrooms of my brand new carpet.
	So I left my Kirby vacuum there and a few decorations and a stepladder, just some things so I could go back and clean up.
	And then I get a call from the constable that says, your stuff is out on the curb.
	I said, oh my lord, they've taken possession of the house again.
	So I flew over there.
	It's only six miles away.
	And I got there, and there was no Kirby vacuum.
	So I continued to fight.
	I did an appeal.
	And apparently, they didn't even read my appeal.
	They had everything out of order saying that against objections, I moved back into the home in April of 2020, or 2019. No, 2020. But I hadn't even left in April.
	I didn't even find out until April, and then I moved in June.
	So he had stolen out buildings off the property, stole my pool table, which the constable was supposed to put into storage.
	Just a lot of things.
	I've been out of my home now for five years fighting this thing, and when I took it up to the Supreme Court, I was denied cert, so they refused to hear my case.
	So now I have a case filed in the federal court, and this is a RICO case.
	Because it's quite apparent that I've been given the runaround.
	Now, I didn't tell you about the second hearing that Sal Wechter got.
	And that second hearing, after the first one, I called out the court's corruption.
	And I filed that pleading.
	He responded with a motion.
	That I should be a motion for sanctions.
	And he said in his motion that I should be given a guardian ad litem or I should be locked in a mental institution or I should be put in jail for the outrageous things I said in my pleadings.
	Suddenly, the judge said, even though I was bedridden and under ADA's Americans with Disabilities Act accommodations with the court to do my hearings from home on video, all of a sudden the judge said, yeah, you need to come into court for this hearing.
	Well, you've just threatened me with confinement in a mental institution or jail.
	And now you're ordering me to come in there when you know I'm bedridden.
	So, of course, I didn't go.
	And Sal Wechter was granted sanctions against me.
	A pro se litigant.
	And the sanctions called for me to pay $33,000 to the county, $5,000 to his attorney, and have all my pleadings stricken from the record.
	Now, if I'm so crazy that I should be locked in a mental institution or jailed...
	Why not let everybody see that in my pleadings?
	Why strike them from the record?
	So, as I began fighting the other cases and working on filing the current RICO case, Sal Wechter continued to keep up his criminality.
	Criminal behavior.
	And he did several things.
	And one is that he filed a case to have the money that I had paid for the redemption.
	He never did go collect from the assessor-collector.
	So that means he abandoned it.
	Now he's going back and telling the assessor-collector to take that money and to put it into the court registry and pay him $33,000 for my sanctions.
	So I received a lawsuit that said Sal Wechter versus the tax assessor-collector versus me.
	And I'm like, what is this?
	Well, he's suing her for $33,000 of the redemption money.
	And she turned around and sued me to drag me into this.
	And the county attorney called me and I said, I have nothing to do with it.
	That money was Sal Wechter's from November of 2020. When I paid it.
	And so I don't have anything to do with this.
	And I wasn't any further notified on that.
	And the second thing that he did, now remember the sanction, the $33,000 was ordered to be paid to the county.
	But now Sal Wechter is wanting it to be paid to him out of the redemption money, which they're saying never happened.
	They're saying I never redeemed the home because my affidavit.
	The other thing they did is have a civil trial in absentia.
	So when I didn't show up for that hearing, they just went ahead and had a trial introducing evidence into the court record.
	So it was just a weird, bizarre, unlawful placing of evidence on the record.
	And they did that to show.
	That I supposedly owed Sal Wechter $165,000.
	So he's going after this $33,000.
	And he's also saying I owe him $165,000.
	And while all that was going on, Sal Wechter's pulling other hijinks in the background.
	I sold a property to pay expenses on these cases and keep moving.
	And he tried to put an IRS lien on that home.
	And he did that through a fraudulent filing at the Harris County Property Records.
	I received word of it.
	When the property records clerk sent me a letter saying, I'm returning your filing unfiled along with your filing fee because a homeowner cannot file an IRS lien on a property.
	It has to be filed by the IRS. And I was like, what is she talking about?
	And I flip it open, and there's a money order made out in my name, not with my handwriting.
	And it's using the address of the house that I sold a month previous to the money order being purchased.
	Now, I had already heard from the title company that Sal Wechter had called them.
	And told them I had an IRS lien and couldn't sell that house.
	And they said, no she doesn't and it's none of your business and the house is already sold.
	So what he did after that is I had three other houses in Harris County.
	And one of which I've tried to sell again because I need to keep paying expenses.
	I've been without water for 11 months now because I can't afford it.
	And so this house should have been sold a while ago.
	I had a contract on it and the contract fell through because I found out that after he was unable to make that filing What he did is he turned around and took that same notice of IRS lien from Montgomery County,
	attached an affidavit to it saying this is a true and correct copy, and he filed it on all three of my properties in Harris County so that I couldn't sell them.
	So when I tried to sell my property so that I could keep afloat, The title company wouldn't insure because they said, you have an IRS lien.
	And I said, no, I don't.
	Because number one, that's a notice, not a lien.
	Number two, it has to be placed by the IRS, not a person.
	And number three, none of this is correct.
	It's not even on these properties.
	But the title company refused to insure, so I lost the sale of that property.
	So he's preventing me from even being able to fight them on this.
	And as I said, now we're currently in a RICO case.
	So that's where we're at right now.
	Nanette, I'm just floored by all of this.
	I can't believe.
	Your recollection, your command of the details, your mental clarity, you've explained all this in great detail with precision in a relaxed fashion.
	I cannot believe how this party is attempting to take advantage of you.
	These are opinions.
	I'm offering here based upon your reconstruction of the case, but this looks completely outrageous to me.
	It has been to everyone who has looked at it.
	At every stage, we said, surely he can't do anything else.
	And I've left out some details for brevity.
	I really didn't know how much time we have today.
	So I wanted to get it as much in there as I could.
	But it's been appalling to everyone that's looked at it.
	And here's what's even worse.
	This is not only happening to me.
	This is happening to people all across the country.
	It's called asset stripping.
	And it's happening to mostly elderly, disabled, or otherwise disadvantaged.
	This is in the category of cruel and unusual punishment.
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	And it is also troubling.
	and I'm My impressions, this is a predatory practice.
	I want you to elaborate on asset stripping, but look, he comes in.
	He's not actually interested in the properties, interested in stripping it apart.
	I'll bet you he actually sold.
	That food forest you had there.
	He probably took up the trees and sold them individually.
	He's taking you appliances out of the house.
	He's no doubt selling them as well.
	I mean, this is grotesque in my opinion.
	And because I myself have been subject to a defamation suit, I'm being more circumspect in my description than I would be otherwise because this is a...
	Appears to me to be a completely unscrupulous operator who's going about doing everything he can to exploit you and your disabilities and the disadvantages you have by virtue of being an older person who suffers from this unusual sleep problem.
	I mean, Nanette, I'm just stunned.
	Please tell us about asset stripping and what's going on with others across the country.
	I have been stunned as well.
	It seemed surreal all the way through.
	I keep wondering, what am I doing sitting in this other house?
	He actually ended up moving in, so he's enjoying the benefits of my beautiful home.
	I'm sitting over here packed in like a hoarder because I had more stuff than house where I'm currently at.
	And I had everything for the church, you know, and so that was a lot more furniture and instruments and everything for the church was right there on the property as well.
	I'm going to give your listeners, if I can get them to help me, I am going to give your listeners a huge, huge bonus.
	And that is to tell them one of my secret weapons, because he happened to be a victim of asset stripping as well.
	And they've gotten three of his properties.
	They've so far gotten two of mine.
	I'm about to lose three more to predatory loans just to stay afloat.
	And so they'll have all of my properties.
	And so they basically took a disabled person who has always sustained herself and set herself up for retirement.
	And not only that helped the community, I gave away more money than I retired with.
	And I've spent over a million fighting this.
	And now I'm living on dollar store food and without running water in my home, wondering how I'm going to pay for my next mailing.
	But one of the blessings I found is another victim of asset stripping who happens to be one of the smartest legal minds.
	I've ever encountered.
	And a lot of your listeners may know his name, and that is Richard Kornforth.
	So I want to encourage your listeners, if they've heard of him or they haven't, to look on YouTube for Secrets of the Legal Industry videos.
	Secrets of the Legal Industry.
	And you will get some of Cornforth's teachings there.
	And then I want to encourage you to go to his website and buy his books.
	I would have never made it this far without him.
	I would be homeless.
	I would have lost all my stuff.
	And he's just been a godsend.
	He's another victim.
	And also, there's...
	A YouTube channel called Dolcefino Consulting.
	And Wayne Dolcefino was very well known in Houston.
	He was an investigative reporter with one of the local stations here for decades.
	And now he's gone mercenary.
	So he's doing his own investigations and videos and posting them on social media.
	And he has done some stories about asset stripping.
	One woman, they were able to get out of it.
	But what it takes to get out of this is media attention and law enforcement that will go after these guys.
	Those are the two things I don't have.
	And it doesn't matter if what How well you know the law or how well you fight your battle in court, if you're in a corrupt judiciary, you're going to lose.
	So until people look at our filings and briefings and my timeline of events, I would ask them to reserve judgment that as a pro se litigant, I just don't know the law and messed up because You have to look at it and see.
	So it's a very concerning problem.
	We have a problem with the corrupt judiciary.
	We have corrupt law enforcement.
	And we have no media coverage.
	So anybody who has any contacts in any of those, in the DOJ, with the FBI, with any...
	Media contacts of any kind, especially big social media, alternative media, anywhere we can get this message out to help the victims of this and stop it and stop these corrupt judiciaries and make law enforcement do their jobs is more people that we're going to save from this.
	I have a veteran up in Washington, lost his property.
	I mean, it's just happening all over the country.
	And they have about four or five different ways that they do it.
	Sometimes it's through a guardian ad litem or locking you up or taxes or whatever they can find to do.
	And they often work through or with attorneys and...
	Real estate developers.
	So that's the short of it.
	Well, you're welcome to elaborate on the four or five methods that they use.
	I think everyone here would welcome additional information.
	You are quite a repository of knowledge about this, having survived.
	The horrific abuse of the law taking place here.
	I mean, it just boggles the mind of what you've had to endure, and you have all my sympathy.
	This is just as outrageous as it gets.
	It certainly doesn't seem like America.
	I mean, I've sat here and gone, where am I? What's happening here?
	How did I lose my home that I paid cash for?
	And remember, I paid all taxes.
	I've overpaid taxes because I paid that business property tax.
	I paid all penalties, fees, interest, attorney's fees, and redemption.
	And somebody else is sitting in my house.
	I'm living without food and water.
	I'm about to lose the rest of my homes.
	So, you know, any help that I can get, as I said, with media coverage, with, you know, donations, supporters, law enforcement would be greatly welcomed.
	As far as the methods, As I said, they look for any way in.
	And they often work with real estate developers.
	And I'm going to give your listeners another tip.
	One of the ways that we found out, and I didn't discover this.
	Somebody else did.
	And I wish I could give them credit.
	I just unfortunately at the moment can't remember who it was.
	Somebody discovered that the way these corrupt judiciaries and attorneys and district attorneys get their bribery money is that you know all these public officials have to post their financials for the public to see.
	And what you'll notice is that as soon as an attorney either starts working with a real estate developer as a client, or has one in his wife's court who's a judge, or once he makes district attorney, you'll notice all of a sudden he's got all these property loans.
	That he can't possibly pay off on his pay.
	Who's paying those loans?
	Who's paying off these real estate loans that these DAs can't seem to afford?
	And it's the same with judges.
	You'll see as soon as they make a judgeship, all of a sudden they have all these real estate loans.
	So it could be that they're working with real estate people.
	It could be that they're working with attorneys that do asset or guardian of litem ship.
	And so they seize all the person's assets.
	Now they can do whatever they want with the person and managing their property.
	And that's what the case Dolcefino reported on.
	That woman had $12 million in assets.
	And these attorneys had seized it all.
	She was perfectly in her wits.
	They took her away from her family, locked her up, and she fortunately had a family that would fight for her and that hired Wayne to do the investigations and the videos.
	And get some publicity on it.
	So they ended up getting her free.
	But that's one of the ways they do it.
	They claim you're out of your faculties.
	They get the judiciary who they're working with to rule in their favor.
	And then they just lock you up.
	And you can't get out.
	And they turn over your assets to the attorneys.
	Or they throw you in jail.
	And then your stuff gets seized by the county and they just sell it off.
	In this case, in a tax case, they sold it off to their friend, you know, the husband's, the attorney husband's client.
	And you can't tell me that an almost million dollar property only sold.
	For $75,000 at an auction.
	This was a home, was a four bedroom home with a jacuzzi tub in the master.
	It had three bathrooms in the main house.
	Then it had a clubhouse, which also had two more kitchens and another bathroom.
	And then we had An outhouse out in the food forest, which had a porcelain toilet, a shower, a sink, everything.
	So it was a three kitchen, four bedroom with a guest house, five bath with a pool, a hot tub and two acres.
	You're going to tell me that sold at auction?
	It was beautiful.
	And that sold at auction only for $75,000?
	No way.
	There's just absolutely no way.
	So that's how they do it.
	They do it through a corrupt judiciary and a lot of DAs who are also on the take who won't bring them up on charges.
	Yeah, the auction business is easy to manipulate.
	You know, few people may even know what properties are up for auction and they can manage the outcome so they get a steal.
	I mean, that's what we're talking about here.
	This all involves property theft, looting, exploitation, asset stripping, as you observe.
	Shocking!
	And you can see you have the combination of...
	Judges and attorneys and real estate developers and predatory entrepreneurs, as I would suggest you are targeted by.
	I mean, it's practically a foolproof scheme in the sense that they can exploit to their delight and the targets are virtually incapable of doing anything about it.
	This is outrageous.
	It is, and I've been to everyone.
	The state AG, the USAG, the DOJ, the FBI, the local sheriffs.
	I even have a recording of an assistant DA out of Harris County who admitted...
	That out of what had been reported to him in my affidavit of criminal complaint and probable cause for arrest, he admitted that he saw the state crime of tampering with a government document.
	He also admitted he saw RICO crimes.
	And in the same breath, in the same conversation, which I have recorded, Turned around and told me this was all a civil matter and the DA's office would not be picking this up or doing anything further.
	Outrageous!
	We've been outraged all along the line, just shocked at every turn that this could go this far at every step.
	We couldn't believe it and yet here I am.
	And I've, like I said, been out of my house for five years.
	Mind you, at my house, I would have heat, which I don't hear because the water goes with the heat.
	So I have no gas, so I have no heat.
	At my house, though, that he's sitting in, when I left, there was about 800 gallons of propane.
	And I had a well.
	So I wouldn't be living without water and heat this past winter.
	Wow.
	Give us the name of that legal beagle you highly recommend.
	His name again, I want to pull it up here.
	Richard Kornforst.
	On YouTube, you can see him in some teaching videos if you look up Secrets of the Legal Industry.
	Secrets of the Legal Industry.
	Yes, I see.
	He's got a book.
	Richard Wayne Cornforth.
	He's now dead.
	No.
	Wrong Cornforth.
	Wrong Cornforth.
	He's very much alive.
	Okay.
	Richard Luke Cornforth.
	This is Richard Luke.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	And I was blessed and fortunate and favored enough by God to be...
	Led to him and then to have him favor me and take me under his tutelage and under his wing.
	And as I said, without him, I would have never made it this far.
	So he's an absolute legal genius.
	And he's even taught me things that I have taught other attorneys.
	I had my cases dismissed three times by the other side calling Rooker Feldman.
	Oh, you know, this should be dismissed under Rooker Feldman.
	In other words, they were saying I was judge shopping because I was a state court loser and that I wasn't allowed to do that.
	I talked to Richard and he said, oh no, that was interred over a generation ago.
	And it's right there in his books.
	He tells you exactly when and where that was done.
	So, you know, and then I had another attorney tell me, well...
	They use that all the time to dismiss.
	And I said, I know.
	Even after we called them out already several times in court over that, now in this new RICO case, guess what they came back with?
	Rooker Feldman.
	Why, you idiots?
	We already told you we know the gig is up on that.
	That was interred by the Supreme Court over a generation ago.
	The Supreme Court said it's a no-go.
	And we've already told them we know that, and here's the case.
	And yet they still keep trying it.
	So I encourage people to look up Richard, because like I said, I had my cases dismissed three times under that, and I couldn't defeat it.
	Until I found him.
	He has knowledge that is just beyond compare.
	And his books are worth at least double what you pay.
	Well, I sure want to encourage everyone to follow up on this.
	Are there ways they can reach out to you, Nanette, to help you specifically?
	Yes.
	I am on YouTube.
	I do have a Facebook.
	On my YouTube, I also have a channel called Lay Law, where I teach people the law and things that I've learned.
	I haven't been able to work on it as much as I want because I'm too busy trying to fight these cases and stay afloat.
	I was hoping that, you know, I could sell that houses and then I wouldn't have to worry about money for a minute and I could make more videos and teach people.
	But I haven't been able to do that so far.
	The channel is hard to find because I'm very small, but it's called Laylaw and I have a black and white logo that is circular.
	with the scales of justice in the middle and it says lay law and you'll see me on there discussing law and I have blonde hair so that's how you can recognize my channel and I give you contact information in the description.
	As I said, that's going to be kind of hard to find, but you can find me if you look.
	Yeah, I'm looking at...
	I'm finding lay low, but of course you're talking about lay law, as in layman's law.
	Yes, L-A-Y-L-A-W, one word.
	It's a black and white logo on YouTube.
	You may have to put in Laylock Channel.
	Laylock Goodman.
	There's some group called Laylaw.
	They have albums, believe it or not.
	Yeah, I think that's a music group.
	Like I said, it's kind of hard to find my channel.
	But if you look, you can find it.
	It's a little bit hard, but...
	I'm trying to find it now.
	Let me say, we are going to open the lines for callers.
	The number is 608-957-8727.
	To speak to Nanette and me about all of this, 608. 9-5-7-8-7-2-7-NANET. I can't believe what you've had to go through.
	This is just outrageous.
	And I get it.
	And I'm still going through it.
	I know.
	You're still going through it.
	And Richard Cornforth, he looks like a splendid resource.
	Well, you know, when all your assets are tied up, you're handicapped.
	Stand by.
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	On the net, we have a first caller from the 408 area called I believe it is Paul.
	Please join the conversation, 408. Well, thank you.
	Interesting show.
	I missed the beginning and the introduction, in other words, the genesis of all of these issues.
	So perhaps I'll go back later and listen to it again.
	But I'll start out by saying...
	What a friend of mine used to say, who is quite familiar with the way this world works, he always used to say, so welcome to America, how do you like it?
	I guess the how do you like it part, very similar to how about them apples.
	Paul, just appalling, the first 30 minutes, of course, was my updating with news about Ukraine and Russia.
	But I just explained that Nanette, you know, is in a position here of having legal issues in Texas that I felt would be of importance to us all.
	And I think you've got most of it, but Nanette can give you a sketch, whatever you may have missed.
	Well, so I'll just say this, though.
	I have a couple of stories.
	So, by the way, I have one of Richard Newkornforth's books.
	Until you did the work on the show, Jim, I was going to call in to say, okay, it's Richard Luke Kornforth, I believe.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I became familiar with him.
	I'm not sure exactly when, but around the time I was looking into the law and guys like Mark Stevens, you know, Adventures in Legal Land, and then, you know, there's Dean Clifford, Carl Lentz, all these people.
	And a lot of what they do and they say is great.
	It's all, you know, truth-based and in many cases based in the law.
	But as I've told you many times, Jim, and Nanette, you may or may not have ever heard me, but it doesn't matter.
	Jim found out the hard way that the law, case law, legal principles, all that stuff is absolutely irrelevant in any court case where they want to, when they want to get their way and to screw you over.
	A friend actually became friends with this guy.
	This goes back to probably the late 80s, I would say.
	I was a kid coming up.
	I was working at an RV lot selling RVs and got to know this man.
	And he was older than me at the time.
	I forget.
	He was probably in his mid to late 40s or something like that.
	And, you know, hey, what's going on with you?
	How do you end up here?
	And so on and so forth.
	Well, come to find out, he told me that...
	I went through a divorce with his wife.
	His wife was cheating on him.
	And the man his wife was having an affair with was the local sheriff.
	So infidelity, of course.
	The sheriff's brother, I believe, was a local judge.
	And it turned out also that he, the lawyer that he was using, actually, he supposedly went to law school with either the judge or the other.
	His wife's attorney, I forget which one it was, but to sum it up, you know, like in a Hollywood movie, bada-bing, bada-boom, he lost everything.
	He basically became more or less homeless.
	And, you know, that was what I would call an introduction to the way of the world, so to speak.
	And it's unfortunate, I feel terrible, for you and all sorts of people like you that have to go through this kind of thing.
	It always pays to know biker friends.
	If you have biker friends, it's always a good thing to keep in your back pocket.
	Much appreciated, Nanette.
	Yeah, and you know, as we said before, it's been shocking to us as well.
	You know, it's surprising that In America, this could happen because we have an unresponsive law enforcement to keep our judiciary under wraps.
	And when you're in a situation like that, if we don't get responsive law enforcement, we lose everything.
	So what they're doing is they're taking productive civilians.
	And making them destitute.
	I mean, here I am having been disabled my entire life, never having been on the government dole, fully sustaining and would be for the rest of my life, and now they've come in and made me destitute and dependent.
	And the same with your story with your friend.
	And I'm sure they will do it with many, many more people if we don't stop them.
	The only way we're going to stop them is by exposure and getting good law enforcement and judiciaries in place.
	Right.
	Well, I would just say, and this is just my opinion based upon, I mean, stopping them would entail...
	Well, nothing short of a revolution, in my opinion.
	I've been on this show, and I've been on other shows, other podcasts, where I basically, my opinion is we have to take a wrecking ball to the whole system.
	There's so much wrong with it, I don't think it can be fixed.
	Because Jim experienced himself, and I told him what was going to happen, because it happened to me with my little, my adventures.
	Like I said, Mark Stevens wrote a book called Adventures in Legal Land, and, you know, mostly dealing with tickets and taxes.
	And that's most people's interaction with the justice system is traffic tickets and taxes.
	And I, you know, spent a lot of time looking into things.
	I bought copies of the vehicle code.
	I looked into case law.
	I was ready and I used to help other people myself, you know.
	But I saw so much of what you experienced, which is they often will not read your pleadings.
	Or even if they do read them, it wouldn't matter because they're not going to rule in your favor if they don't want to.
	In other words, they use the law when they feel like it.
	And I had multiple times where I really couldn't believe what occurred because I had everything.
	I had the law books.
	I had the case law, citations, whatever it was that I needed to prevail.
	And yet, somehow, I didn't.
	And I used to say that it's not a real world.
	In other words, you go to the hardware store.
	And, you know, things work the way they should.
	You know, you put a half-inch nut on a half-inch bolt.
	You don't put a 9-16 nut on a half-inch, you know, bolt.
	That sort of thing.
	In other words, real-world stuff.
	But in these courts, in many cases, you just make it up as they go.
	Absolutely.
	What are you going to do?
	That's absolutely correct.
	They just do their own law, and they rule.
	Against Supreme Court rulings and against everything.
	And you said a mouthful when you said there is so much wrong with it.
	There is.
	There is so much wrong with it.
	And hopefully very soon I'm going to have an interview with somebody I have recently counseled with here in the area.
	And he had traffic tickets.
	And by doing what I told him to do and saying what I told him to say, he's gone in and gotten, I think, about 13 traffic tickets dismissed here recently.
	And of course, I've been on him to knock it off and quit getting tickets.
	But he has seen...
	That, you know, what I say about the law is true, and we've got them.
	And so we'll discuss that hopefully on one of my upcoming shows, what advice I gave him and what I told him to do, that he ended up getting all of these dismissed.
	Because you're absolutely right, that they go outside the law.
	Now, what I've observed with this latest...
	A guy that I'm about to do the interview with is that some of the judiciaries are turning around.
	And there's a very popular channel on YouTube of Judge Fleischer.
	He's down here in Houston, in Harris County.
	And Judge Fleischer has done a 180. He used to scathe.
	Pro se people or people without attorneys and did not make the greatest rulings in line with what they should be.
	And he's done a complete 180. He's releasing tons of cases on probable cause.
	So that's an indication that our judiciary is changing back for about 10 years, well, 12 really.
	We couldn't win a case for nothing.
	We were winning, winning, winning, winning on this strategy.
	All of a sudden it quit working.
	Nobody could win anything.
	All across the country, none of us.
	We're winning anything for over a decade, and now all of a sudden we're winning again, which tells us we are getting control of some of our courts.
	We're just not done yet.
	And another important thing to realize is we do have all the remedy we need.
	It drives me bonkers when people start wanting to make a new law because it's already there.
	We just don't know where it is and how to use it, and that's what we need to learn because we do have remedy.
	All we need is good law enforcement and good judiciaries.
	But here's the thing, though, and again, we don't want Jim to go into his whole case again because he's done it many times, but he experienced firsthand.
	None of that really matters.
	It's all out the window when you can have a single man.
	Such as a judge or a single woman, make a decision or a ruling, and that's it.
	And then, of course, in many cases, if you appeal it, they will be backed up by another single man or woman, or, as an example, a panel.
	I remember way back in the day, probably early 2000s or something like that, I appealed a traffic case.
	It was a red light camera ticket that I should have never lost.
	And, you know, went before some three-judge panel.
	And, you know, it just was ridiculous.
	You know, they barely considered what arguments I made before, which were all ironclad and had already previously been used in another case.
	In fact, a case that was actually circulated.
	It's called Khalid v.
	State of California.
	And, you know, it didn't matter.
	They just ruled against it because they made a decision.
	It's like somebody once told me that this is a huge revenue stream, billions, not just millions or hundreds of millions of dollars, but billions of dollars, and they're just not going to give it up, no matter even if it's against the law or legal principles or their own previous rulings.
	You have what's known as essentially a corporate revenue-raising policy.
	It's not masquerading as law, but in many cases there isn't the appropriate legal backing or foundation for all the stuff that they do.
	But that's okay.
	That famous saying about the reason treason never prospers is because it prospers.
	Nobody will call it treason.
	Something like that.
	I butchered it, but you got the idea.
	Yeah, and you're absolutely right about what you're saying, and that's why I'm saying we need to keep exposing, we need to keep putting the pressure on until we get all of our courts and our law enforcement in line.
	Because the young man that I'm going to interview, this was three separate courts.
	He went into, and he's gotten dismissed in all three courts, and we never had to file anything.
	We didn't have to do any paperwork.
	All he had to do was show up in court a few times and stand on what I told him to stand on, keep saying it, and he walked out of all of them.
	Now, that wouldn't have happened five years ago, I guarantee it.
	We couldn't win anything.
	Are these traffic tickets you're talking about?
	Yes.
	Okay, you know, we'll have to...
	Traffic tickets, I believe, are an important subject because most Americans that get entangled with law enforcement, it happens through traffic stops.
	Well, sure.
	And I was going to say maybe after the show, Jim can provide contact information.
	I'd like to know what it is you're referring to.
	I know that in my case, I also have basically just forgotten about paperwork and motions and all the stuff that I used to file.
	And I can typically win or cause the matter to go away by just some very uncomfortable questions I ask at arraignment.
	Just one or two questions that I ask at arraignment.
	Typically, they know what's going on.
	They know who I am.
	And then in the end, they might not give me a win in the court.
	This has happened to me a couple of times where they continue the case and they continue the case.
	So they put me to the end of the calendar when the courtroom is empty.
	And they quietly dismiss it, quietly and unceremoniously and possibly even in a hallway.
	Not only that, I had my files one time.
	My files disappeared from the courthouse because somebody went to go get a look at them and they couldn't find them, they said.
	But just quickly before we run out of time, I had another story.
	Of course, you can multiply this story by, who knows, across this country by the millions with variations of the content.
	But I say it just to say, you know, you have a lot of company out there in terms of being...
	Screwed over.
	This is a little different matter.
	This turned out to be criminal.
	But I met this guy in a coffee shop, right?
	And he was a former contractor.
	He told me a story.
	So he had a little house, a little business.
	He was doing well, had clients.
	He had a, you know, truck, tools, a boat.
	You know, he made his little, you know, made his little mark here, mini American dream.
	His house was not in the best neighborhood, but it was his, right?
	Well, anyway.
	She got involved with a woman, a girlfriend, and come to find out she's a little bit of a crazy, you know, and had a little drug pass with some druggie friends.
	So one Friday night, they, you know, got in this argument.
	Okay, they'd had a little, a few tiffs here and there, but now this is a pretty serious argument.
	He was telling her he was done.
	You know, I want you to move out.
	Don't want to...
	See you anymore.
	You know, this is it.
	I don't like this.
	Well, of course, she just flipped out and it was a huge scream of mass.
	She picked up a knife from the kitchen counter and there was like a struggle, basically, and she got cut.
	And of course, you know, police got called and, you know, she's bleeding.
	She's cut.
	She lied and said that basically he attacked her.
	Okay, so here in California, domestic violence, you know, they're taking you in.
	So he got cuffed up and taken, you know, to county jail, right?
	And because there was a weapon and, you know, with this bodily injury and domestic violence, you know, it's a real big deal here.
	So he had a super high bail, like I think it was like $750,000, something like that, right?
	And, you know, he couldn't post that.
	He didn't have the 10% that he needed, okay?
	Well, He didn't know about waiving time, and I've mentioned this on the show before.
	Most people don't.
	Most people that encounter the criminal justice system, they're not properly informed on the speedy trial provision, where if you say you do not waive time, they've got to bring you to trial within 30 days if you're in custody and 45 days if you're out of custody.
	And, of course, he waived time, as he was advised to do by his public defender.
	And long and the short of it is he was in there for seven months, and when it all came down to it, they ended up dropping almost all the charges.
	Meanwhile, his house was assets stripped.
	They stole everything because word got out in the neighborhood.
	You know, the neighborhood he was in was not the best neighborhood, and word got out that he was in jail and he wasn't getting out.
	So they took truck tools, boat, furniture, and of course he lost the house because he couldn't make the payments.
	And welcome to America.
	How do you like it?
	Poor guy.
	That's an awful ball.
	Just awful.
	Nanette, by the way, may I share your address and phone number?
	Absolutely.
	Is it correct?
	The address would be 14090FM 2920 Roads Suite G. Would that be a right mailing address?
	That would.
	Tom Ball.
	T-O-M-B-A-L-L, Texas, 77377, and Paul, for contact with Annette, the phone number, 713-494-4727.
	I repeat, 713-494-4727 to get those tips about...
	Traffic tickets and whatever, Paul.
	I'm really pleased you called in today, Paul.
	I'm very, very happy.
	Annette, your further thoughts?
	And on YouTube, my username is atlaylaw.
	One word, both L's are capital, at L-A-Y-L-A-W, atlaylaw on YouTube.
	And it's Laila is the name of the channel.
	It's one word together.
	And you should be able to find me there as well and watch the videos.
	Paul, I'm just appalled that this is the way America is working today.
	And it's just shameful.
	I mean, it's disgusting.
	It's repulsive.
	It's beyond belief.
	This is just the opposite of what this country is supposed to stand for.
	Stunning.
	The story I just told, too, believe me, I met plenty of people that were, I mean, you can, if you listen to radio or read the newspaper, you'll find out all the time about somebody that they're in jail for a year, a better part of the year, some cases more, 14, 16, 18 months without going to trial.
	And that's because they waived time.
	They will ask you any court arraignment, and I'm sure Nanette knows this, maybe not for her cases, but in any criminal.
	Court, you can hear them ask if you waive time.
	And a lot of people, they do not know anything about this.
	And attorneys are not going to really tell you because they make money based upon how much time the system grinds you out, how many appearances they can make in court, how they bill you by the hour in many cases.
	So the last thing you want to do is to waive time.
	That's the last thing you want to do.
	However, I have found in being in these courts and working with those timelines, even if you don't waive time, they have about a thousand ways they lie and wiggle their way out of the time limit on speedy trial.
	You'll never get them on speedy trial.
	Well, I mean, I can tell you this, my own, I have one experience myself in terms of I did not waive time and I didn't actually enter a plea.
	We went back and forth about that whole thing about, you know, not entering a plea because when you look up, you know, what does a plea mean in a law dictionary?
	It's a voluntary submission to a court's jurisdiction, you know, among all sorts of other little tidbits you can find out.
	So, no, they let me out after 29 days.
	They couldn't keep me anymore because I was in custody.
	Again, traffic-related matters.
	So at least in my particular case, it worked because they did not keep me any longer and they dropped the charges on the 29th day.
	Well, after 29 days, they've collected more than the fines and fees in their payment for housing you.
	Likely.
	Yeah, yeah.
	That's the other thing I learned once I went into the system.
	And again, this goes back to the late 80s, right?
	You know, I was a little bit more stubborn and so forth.
	And I, you know, I had my so-called principles, but I was informed and I was shocked to learn this as a kid.
	But apparently, you know, everybody gets reimbursed for you being in there.
	Right.
	The county gets money from the state.
	The state gets money from the federal government for basically every inmate house.
	They get a budget.
	And what I found out, a guy told me one time, he said, yeah, I said, you watch.
	Because I went to court, it was like 9.30 or 9.45 court, and I got dismissed and said, you'll get released tonight about 1.30, maybe 2 o'clock in the middle of the night.
	I just go, why?
	He goes, because they get credit for an extra day past midnight.
	And sure enough, multiple occasions when I was incarcerated, and I would typically be in there for four days, three days, five days, depend, multiple times for basically not paying tickets or not showing up to court.
	That was all it ever was.
	I was always released, always released after midnight.
	After midnight, yes.
	And they could have easily let me out during the day or, you know, but no, that's just the way the system works.
	You're basically a piece of a...
	Revenue generating protoplasm.
	That's what you are.
	Yeah, and that's why we've got to get exposure and we've got to get people actually involved before it happens to them.
	Many people can't afford four or five days in jail.
	Four or five days in jail is enough to make many people homeless.
	That's a week.
	That's a week's worth of work.
	That's, you know, you take away a week's worth pay and, you know, now they're either eating or paying the rent.
	God.
	So right, Nanette.
	You're so exactly right.
	You and Paul are just...
	Laying open the corrupt core of America today.
	It's just ghastly.
	And I understand most people's reluctance.
	I used to try to help people and tell them, encourage them, please, to fight your ticket or to don't pay it.
	Because if everybody fought it and everybody didn't pay it, the system would collapse.
	But most people are, in the end, afraid.
	I felt, you know, the way I came up is my defiance went hand in hand with my self-employment.
	You know, I started out pretty early on working for myself.
	So therefore, I didn't have the normal fear of losing the job.
	But yeah, the average person, you know, just to get arrested for something in many cases in this country, you'll be fired.
	And now, you know, this has been covered the last few years with this whole woke culture.
	There's people that are losing their jobs just because they say the wrong thing.
	It's just really exciting.
	Right.
	Right.
	And that's why we have to bust it.
	Nanette, I cannot thank you enough for coming on today.
	This has been informative and illuminating in a very distressing way.
	And Paul, I can't thank you enough for coming on.
	You just made this discussion.
	Wonderful and valuable.
	We love everyone.
	Spend as much time for your family, your friends, the people you love and care about.

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