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The Raw Deal (22 January 2025) with Joachim Hagopian, Russ Winter, and Gordon Duff
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to The Raw Deal.
This 22nd day of January, 2025, right here on Revolution Radio Studio B. We hope to be joined by Gordon Dove, former senior editor at Veterans Today, a longtime intelligence operative involved in many important operations for the United States.
We're hopeful Gordon will join us.
Meanwhile, we have Russ Winter from Winter Watch in The Jack Republican and Joaquin Agobian from Bally.
Joaquin, as you know, is a graduate.
West Point has published five volumes on pedophilia and politics, disgusting stuff that he's exposed.
Other books such as Don't Let the Bastards Get You Down.
Today we want to talk about some of the latest developments regarding the Trump administration.
It's moving fast.
Let me mention a couple of headlines and get a take from Russ and Joaquin.
Justin Trump fires thousands of disloyal White House employees.
U.S. government, and this one troubles me.
To give minority status to Jewish-owned businesses, conferring billions in benefits to those who are actually the most successful and wealthy businessmen in the country.
I don't like that.
Trump cabinet selections show us he's a Zionist firster and is subservient to Zionist censorship.
Elise Stefanik, Trump's nominee for U.N. ambassador, says Israel has a biblical right of the West Bank.
Some of this is disturbing stuff.
Joaquin, let me start with you, my friend.
Your thoughts.
Yeah, every single one of these has a running theme in it.
Israel first.
MAIGA, make Israel great again.
Yeah, unifying theme here.
Hey, we called it, what, back when he won the election in November.
We said he was filling up his whole cabinet with all these Zionists, ready for war with Iran.
And here it is.
You know, it's in our face now.
Just about every single one of his nominees, and they're mostly all going to get...
Rubio already got in as the Secretary of State.
So, I mean, yeah, it's a completely...
Jewish, Zionist regime.
We got where America's our last and Israel's first.
Bottom line.
Very troubling, Russ.
Do you see it the same way?
Yeah, absolutely.
It's been a while since I've been...
I'm going to remind you guys, I haven't been on it for a long time.
I've been missing...
I got a lot.
To catch up on.
Welcome back, Ross!
Yeah, that's been interesting.
Yeah, I've got a new...
I have actually coined a new term that I think works in this instance.
I emailed you guys last night to give you a heads up on it.
And I call it every single Stein time, or inversely, every single time of wits.
I think that's a substitute for Victor's old term that we can make, you know, maybe we can slip that in there and make the same point.
Kind of a tongue twister.
Kind of a tongue twister.
Yeah, I know.
You got the phrase, the ziocons, the ziocons, that's a good one.
Or you can just shorten it to singelstein.
Anyway, the other thing I've kind of noticed...
That kind of fits into this, too, is this grifting going on.
And there's a tweet that went up today.
Harvard University announced that it reached a settlement with Jewish students that filed a lawsuit against the institution for alleged negligence in addressing anti-Semitism on campus.
As part of the settlement, the university will pay the students an undisclosed amount in compensation and adopt the IHRA definition, which is very, very broad and vague, of anti-Semitism.
It was included with certain criticism of Israel as anti-Semitic.
Harvard will establish a formal partnership with an Israeli university contrary to the demands of pro-Palestinian organizations on campus.
This is grifting.
This is using lawfare.
This is the kind of shit they pulled on Jim Fetzer, for example.
And it's classic Jewish supremacism.
Let me tell you that Harvard should fold in the wake of, you know, to adopt this international Holocaust definition that makes anti-Semitism embrace any criticism of Israel or the actions of the government regardless.
A form of anti-Semitic is an intellectual calamity for higher education.
And I'm delighted Gordon has been able to join us now.
Gordon, we're just reviewing a whole host of actions of the new Trump administration and noting how many of them are pro-Zionist, Israeli-oriented.
We're right now talking about Harvard having acceded to the demands for...
I think Gordon cannot hear yet.
It's an atrocity.
It's an intellectual atrocity.
Gordon, you're muted.
You're muted.
You need to unmute.
Yeah.
Okay.
How about this?
There you go.
Technology.
Now, Jim, did you get a chance to peruse the paper I sent you yesterday?
I've actually republished it, Gordon, on my blog.
Oh, my goodness.
That's one of the reasons we want to have you hear about the history of Israel, how it's fabricated, phony, faked, everything else for political purposes.
Well, Jim, this is a short paper.
I've written a book.
I put up some of the basic outline on it.
Frankly, working by yourself, and you and I aren't kids anymore, you know, but without a sea of grad students available, you know, and you know what, that's like not having the kids here to do your work for you.
Editing 450 pages on European and Jewish history.
I would probably, the reason I wrote this paper, this is around an 80-page or so that you just went through.
Essentially, it's a correction of a number of serious misconceptions in European history, and then it carefully outlines and documents, and this is a minor peer review behind it.
It is written to be acceptable for use in high schools, if they could understand it.
And certainly universities, it's very fair.
It's very fair to Jewish people, unusually so, to the extent that if I were Jewish, I wouldn't not read it.
It gives you a pretty good look at the history.
How this look all started is about maybe 10 years ago.
I discovered a book by a guy named John Beattie, written in 1950, called Iron Curtain Over America.
was the U.S. intelligence officer that opposed so many of the paperclip people that were brought in.
There are a lot of things in history.
History is basically, they talk about history being the history of the victors.
I was a big fan of Howard Zinn, certainly, and those of you who don't know who he was or his people's history of the United States, in an attempt to correct the fact that Europeans began lying about their own history pretty much before there was Europe, and everything we have now is false.
Some basic statements we can make about Jews.
The first Jew was born probably in the 19th century.
There were no Jews.
The term Jew, they tried to extrapolate that the people from the Holy Land who are...
Today, Palestinians, the former biblical Hebrews from Judea and Samaria, had somehow in the first century moved into Europe to escape the Romans.
So they moved into the middle of the Romans.
None of this ever happened.
I mean, and we outlined specifically.
The archaeological evidence.
And we're fairly well footnoted.
In the book, we have 7,000 footnotes on archaeology.
One of the things that, this is a minor aside, makes that available, is if you've got the $300 a month to buy the big AI package, it allows you to not only look in LexisNexis,
JSTOR, and to get around Google's incredibly thick censorship, but it allows you to Access university libraries around the world where a lot of translated documents or not so translated documents can now be made available.
And truth be told, we had almost no history of Europe after around 300 days, I'm going to use AD and BC, I'm that old, around 300 days before Common Era.
Everything we tell people about the Middle Ages is pretty much false.
How Europe developed, how many people lived there, who lived in Europe.
And the critical point involving Jews is simply this, that under genetic testing for Israelis, almost no Israelis have any Semitic blood.
And when they do, it's because their family's married with Palestinians, not because they're from a biblical people of any kind.
Jews, using the term Jew.
Jew is a term for European.
And the actual history, and now that we can get into Russian and Chinese databases, we get some incredible and really interesting stories.
But the Jews were the Khazars.
The Khazars were a...
People know that the claim is that they're Turks that grew up on the Russian steppes in the Volga basin in Ukraine and Kazakhstan, with a capital where the city of Baku is in Azerbaijan.
In truth, they're a Germanic tribe, much akin to the Visigoths and the Vandals, that came to Europe in varying waves under pressures from There was a constant population pressure under the East, you know, the Huns, Mongols, but many, many waves.
Starting as early as the 4th or 5th century BC, we began moving people around and moving the people that lived in southern Russia, and that's the white people, the Vikings, the Germanic people, the northern Europeans.
Nobody lived in northern Europe with the exception of the Celts.
Celts, if you would please.
The Picts and a few others.
Very, very small populations in the tens of thousands at most.
And there were one million Khazars, about 70% Germanic, mixed with pretty much everyone because they had been sitting on the Silk Road trading between Europe, the Roman Empire, later Byzantine.
The varying empires that took over after Babylon or Persia until it became the Seljuks eventually in the southern and Islamic world, when an Islamic world developed, and that was only after five in the 500s.
But the Khazars had a million people.
Now, at the time, after the fourth or fifth century, There was a population collapse in Europe.
Population went down from around 40 million.
The figure we have now, which we can document well, which challenges everything that was taught for decades, between 6 or 8 million people lived in Europe, all of Europe.
Less than half a million people lived in all of Italy.
There were only, when Aleric sacked Rome in 410, there were only 8,000 people living in Rome, down from 2 million. - Good.
None of them were Jewish.
In fact, at that time, there is no record after the 5th century of there being any Judean Hebrew, since you can't even use the term Jewish until the 19th century.
But it attempts to backdate everything.
This is what this paper is about.
I think Jim, you should read it at Jim's website.
This is the quick story in the Khazars.
The Khazars came under pressure.
They formed a country in around the year 800, 850, formed a nation under pressure from the nation's south, and particularly the Byzantine Empire, and later a burgeoning Russian Empire.
But they covered an area around the size of the United States.
They had universities.
They had a court system.
They had written the laws.
They managed trade.
They did use letters of credit.
They had hospitals.
They were the most advanced people at that time, other than South Asia or the Chinese on Earth.
But under attack, and this was in 965 from the Kiev Rus, the elites all...
And this is the key thing that sets Kazaria aside.
It's a Germanic people, look like me, look like Jim, with some mixed Turkish ancestry, but basically blonde-haired, blue-eyed, genetically identical to the Vikings.
And their elites, who were Judean-Hebrews, 20,000 of them or so, in the 10th century, Well, when these people arrived in Poland with their armor, their horses, their military leaders, their judges, there wasn't a stone building in Poland.
Poland was entirely pagan.
They hadn't learned about toilets yet.
And some areas of Poland are still working on that.
I shouldn't say that.
I love Poland, actually.
But Poland was...
Minor fishing villages, it was nothing.
And the Kazarians, the Poland that became, was built by the Kazarians.
And the system that originated in Poland and spread across Europe, called feudalism, was to a large extent the creation of these Judean-Hebrew-Germanic tribes under the flag of Kazaria.
That were forced by military and population pressures into Europe, into an empty and very, very primitive Europe, where few could read, where Christianity had barely taken a foothold.
We lie about Christianity and where it comes from, how it arrived in Europe, that Christianity in Western Europe entirely dissolved, died off.
And that there would be no Christianity in Europe without St. Patrick taking Christianity as a Roman slave when he went to Ireland.
And from Ireland it spread by Colombo to Scotland.
And from Scotland to Bavaria and Bohemia and France.
And those abbeys that brought the Latin language back to Europe where it had failed entirely.
Came at the hands of the Irish.
So we have a Europe that's utterly depopulated, no organized agriculture, no security regime of any kind.
The Roman Empire lasted an extra 100 years in southern Germany in Trier, Aachen, and Cologne.
But by the 7th century, those cities, I live just right outside Trier, by the way.
It's where I shop, and it's a beautiful city.
With a wonderful Roman history, but by the 6th and 7th century, it had about 3,000 people living in it, down from 80,000.
One of the key issues in here, and I'm going to turn this over to Jim because he's got questions, I hope, anyway, that the idea that Jews came from Palestine comes from Trier, the city of Trier, the entirety of the archaeological evidence.
And there's no written evidence, no written documents, no tablets, nothing found in Hebrew anywhere in Europe whatsoever.
And frankly, almost nothing found in the entire Middle East, saying that there were other people called the Hebrews.
Nothing.
There's no archaeology.
We document it quite carefully.
It's all kind of invented.
Judeans slash after the 19th century called Jews lived in Europe is entirely based on finding what was construed as a Jewish bathtub under a 16th century building in Trier.
Undated, unsupported by any documentation, no inscriptions around it of any kind, and from that a series of papers were authored at the behest of the Rothschild family.
Without any documentary backing of any kind, pushed through several universities where a fairyland was created, that there are these European Khazars, who are very proud and advanced people, who are largely responsible.
When we look at Europe in the 19th century, when we look at Germany in the 19th century, the Jews were hardly the Evil gutter snipes that they were so often accused of being.
The Jews were what I lived with as a child.
Germans.
Looked like Germans.
Spoke German.
Germans, anybody that lived in the area spoke Yiddish as well.
The same people intermarried for centuries.
And funny.
They've intermarried for thousands of years because the Germans and the Jews all come from the same Germanic Russian tribes, and none of the Jews, none, none at all, come from the Holy Land, none.
What we describe in the paper is who the Hebrews were, why none of them left the Holy Land, what happened to them, how they became Palestinians.
The specifics, the specifics on the...
But the other thing, probably one of the things that I think Jim might have caught on to as well.
In the 10th century, the Khazar Judean Hebrews that came into Europe were of the same milk as the Vikings.
Armor, swords, a proud, proud people.
Well, there were other...
Judean, and later after the 19th century, we'll call them Jewish, immigrations from Russia.
Because only 20,000 of a million came into Europe and became what we later found as the Jewish intellectual elites, along with tailors and cab drivers and anything else, like everybody else.
People are always like everybody else.
And anyone who says different, this is where I come to blows with Mr. Trump.
But the next groups that came centuries later, and the huge group that arrived after 1945 that's written on Patton's diaries, suggest you take at least a look at them anyway.
These people had stayed in Russia.
This is the majority, millions by that time, by 1945. They had been living in slavery.
They had been oppressed.
They had intermarried with Turks and Mongols.
They were a darker people.
These are the people that, when they got into Europe, the Zionists shipped them to Israel.
What we explain the why of here is why they were shipped to Israel.
Because the white German Jews didn't want these Jews living in Europe.
And the deals that were cut, the transfer agreements, the deals with the Rothschilds to put a eugenics-based military government dictatorship in Germany through their selected puppet, Adolf Hitler.
Oh, there's that story.
And that story is one that a lot of time has spent.
We'll deal with this at some other time, maybe, though.
But the idea was to empty Europe.
Of the poor, dark-skinned, hoveled Jews and to save those who were more prominent.
And in the middle, we must remember that in Germany, we had a couple of million Jews in Germany.
Huge numbers of Jews served in the German army in World War I, way more served in the army in World War II than anybody will tell you.
Jews served in the German army in World War II in more than the tens of thousands.
But these deals cut with Germany and why Germany was created and how this involved a split between a set of Jews that came to Europe as Germans in the 10th century and those that came in the 17th 18th, 19th, and primarily 20th century were very, very different people.
They were of a different ethnic appearance and they had a different history.
The Judean Kazarians that came to Europe were the masters of the universe.
Of the people who came to Europe, the most advanced people after the classic era.
They, if anything, are the impetus for the Renaissance.
They were the impetus for the Reformation.
There would have been no advancement in Europe.
There would have been no feudalism, no building of nation-states, probably without the influence of the Khazars, who later became referred to as Jews.
A history stolen from the Jewish people.
An important history stolen from the Jewish people.
But the same Jewish people, Who didn't like the idea of primitive, hovel, dirty Jews living among them who had to be sent back to, well, back to Ukraine.
And that's one of the things that Hitler was financed to do.
We're hitting a break.
This is a fascinating historical outline.
And we'll proceed with Russ Winter and Joaquin Agobian and Gordon Duff right after this break.
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It's my pleasure to introduce you to Russ Winter, who has a wonderful blog called Winter Watch and resides in the Czech Republic.
And Joaquina Gopin is a graduate of West Point, an expert on geopolitics, also on pedophilia in American politics, which of course is a profoundly disturbing aspect of what goes on in the background.
Russ, let me invite you to...
Address questions or comments to Gordon about his sketch of the history of Israel and Judaism and the like.
Well, you know, the geneticists are getting to the bottom of this more and more every year.
And, of course, they don't want people in Israel taking 23andMe type tests.
Russ, Aaron Hayek at Johns Hopkins.
In 2011, did the paper called The Jewish Genome.
It's everywhere, but it's on my Scribd site.
He's a prominent Israeli geneticist, and according to him, 97.5% of Israeli citizens are entirely 100% European DNA. Or Kazarian.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, actually, it's...
Kazarian DNA itself is difficult to ascertain because there are no races anywhere, you know, to speak of.
There are several books that just basically touch on an area of utterly prohibited archaeology.
Arthur Kessler's 13th Drive is one of the interesting ones.
Kessler in 66 takes credit for discovering the Kazarians.
And I should have mentioned before, but...
I had a pretty serious motorcycle accident two years ago, so I'm dealing with a closed head injury, which is probably slowing me down a little bit.
But the Beattie book, and what I didn't develop earlier, I need to now.
Beattie was U.S. military intelligence, and Beattie in 1950 had an extensive set of documents from the U.S. military.
The U.S. military was...
Watching the Khazars very closely because they knew that all European Jews were Khazars and they suspected a broad plot.
There's a generalized thing.
When you break into the 1880s and onward and you look at how American finance was run, one name, if you look at J.P. Morgan and the Rockefellers or whatever, and you think these guys ran everything.
Well, they all worked for Jacob Schiff.
The Rothschild agent.
Jacob Schiff's son-in-law was a guy named Paul Warburg.
Paul Warburg essentially ran the American economy for about 40 years.
He's also the figure in a little orphan auntie called Daddy Warbucks.
That's Paul Warburg.
He founded the Federal Reserve, was deputy chairman.
His brother was Max Warburg.
Max Warburg was a banker.
Who was the Kaiser's primary advisor before World War I. It was Max Warburg that put Lenin on a train for St. Petersburg in 1917 to overthrow the Kerensky government in Russia to bring about communism.
It was Jacob Schiff who financed and armed Japan to defeat Russia in the Russo-Japanese War.
to take down Russia and who financed move after move by varying European powers, controlling most of the world's banking and most of the Western currencies, the most powerful person on earth at the time, as a concerted war against Russia.
And our question is, was this concerted war against Russia by Schiff and Gang to restore Kazaria?
And to end that war between the Judean-Hebrew Kazarians that started in 1965, so very long ago.
And we do outline this to a small degree.
And then I have another paper called Greatness and Controversy.
It runs about...
Maybe 380 pages or so.
And we're working that into something longer.
But that carries the documentation and research that we got by...
I have a team that's been getting into these databases in Russia, India, and elsewhere that have just been erased.
Part of what this paper does, and I don't know if you've had a chance to look at it, but we go through the process of how...
During the 19th century, recreating a totally fake history of Europe and everywhere else became utterly allowable.
That archaeology became a con entirely.
That archaeologists were hired to find things.
They would generally, if they wanted to find a tablet, they would usually put it in their suitcase, bury it, and find it.
Much of what we dealt with...
Oddly, though, they've never been able to find the first temple in Israel.
Isn't that interesting?
You know, it's funny, I find, Russ, is the idea that we've got these American presidents, and it's not just Trump and his beanie, but the rest of them all standing before a Greek stone wall in Jerusalem, worrying about the poor Israelis because they think it's a temple.
The Greeks built the Wailing Wall, guys.
If you want to see one just like it, go to Lebanon, not so many miles away.
The Romans did some repairs on it.
That's the story of that.
What you'll see for anything that's supposedly ancient Hebrew, you'll see it all duplicated a couple hundred miles away in the city of Baalbek.
I took a team there after one of our trips to Syria.
So you don't think that the...
You know, obviously there's no early Israel.
That's all totally bogus.
But you don't think that there was a group of sheepherders that were dragged off to Babylon and kind of educated and sent back in the 5th century and kind of established a little bit of a Jewish or Hebrew presence, you know, by that part of the story?
You know, when the Crusaders arrived in Jerusalem, there wasn't a single Hebrew worshiper in the city, not a single one.
So they must have gone somewhere.
And there's no record of them ever being in Europe, okay?
Now, when we look at things, I think that the book Peony, and if you're familiar with it, by Pearl Buck, we had Judean Hebrew, because they can't have been Jewish because Jews didn't exist before the 19th century.
You can't say this enough.
In China, they existed there.
I was in northern Pakistan, and they have Greek, north of the Khyber Pass, they still have five Greek towns.
Ancient Greek, Alexander's people settled in there and are still there.
Pretty amazing area.
So Gordon, even the idea during the crucifixion of calling Jesus King of the Jews, It was an historical misrepresentation.
Jim, the actual document said King of the Judeans.
Jesus was never King of the Jews because he lived and saying that he did live.
Let's say he did live.
But the Judeans were actually today's Palestinians, not today's Israelis.
No, the Israelis are essentially the Flatsim and Jetsim that the Zionists and the powerful Jews sought to expel from Europe.
These are people who wanted to live in Europe.
They had no desire to go to Israel at all.
Or they wanted to come to the United States.
And if we had another 20 million Jews in the United States, you know...
I might have a decent delicatessen out here in West Michigan.
I think Russell is seeking to emphasize they don't want to replicate those DNA studies to reinforce the scientific conclusion that none of these are descendants of the tribe of Judah, just as you are observing.
Well, it's impossible to find any history that there...
That the biblical Hebrews existed at all.
There has been no archaeological evidence that they lived in Egypt.
Ever.
Or that they ever crossed the Red Sea.
The question I have is Babylon, though.
They may have taken a bunch of Judeans to Babylon, educated them, sent them back, and kind of created this rabbi class.
That's kind of what I'm looking at.
You know, and I'm considering taking a look at that and my expectation here if things are consistent.
I've spent a few weeks doing this.
We've got a great research team, so I'm being hit with incredible data.
And all this stuff is hidden in an area on the Intel drop.
Carol and I started going to Iceland a while ago.
I met people there.
It's a really cool place.
It's a place with a government that just doesn't care.
You just got to like these people.
They speak good English.
The story is that the Greek historian Herodotus went through the area.
You probably know this story.
He went through the area, I think it was the 4th century, and couldn't find any signs of any Jews or really even Judeans.
There was a little bit of activity kind of up in the north, but there was just like an uncivilized area.
Pretty much controlled by Egypt.
Here's what it's beginning to look like, okay?
And this is the shocking thing here.
And I recommend that, first of all, getting through 80 pages of dryly written historical crap is a pain.
But the article here on Jim's website...
It took us probably four days to put this together, and about six of us wrote this.
And it is written to be factually accurate, deadly odd, racially neutral entirely, perfectly fine for any academic class.
Nobody's going to get in trouble.
Nobody's going to burn this.
If you're Jewish, you will find lots and lots of positive things about your history, and a lot of things you knew were true and were afraid to say in front of anybody else, you're going to at least see them written down somewhere, where somebody just tells the truth.
But the lying, when the Zionists went on their rampage of insanity in the 19th century, and it was really that, They had a lot of partners.
The Rothschilds, you know, there's a thing that went on in the late 1800s where people who had a lot of money thought they were God's right to rule the world.
They all thought they were Elon Musks, basically, at the time.
And for science, they figured that bad people must have had bad bumps on their head.
That was phrenology.
They were bred bad, and that's called eugenics.
So we had powerful American oligarchs, Ford, the Harrimans, Rockefellers, the Bush family, certainly, who began supporting in a later point Planned Parenthood and things like this.
Also supported programs of forced sterilization for the crimes of Catholicism, Judaism.
Oh, yeah.
In Alabama, you could be castrated for being a Catholic.
No problem about that at all.
And tens of thousands of Americans were forcibly sterilized for apparent mental illnesses, mental insufficiency, looking funny, pretty much anything like this.
Gordon, this is Joaquin.
I'm interested in your take on...
You recall one of the most popular articles ever on VT back in 2015 when Jim and I were contributors there at VT. There was an article...
Written by Mike Harris and Preston James called the history of the incredibly evil Kazarian Mafia.
And it goes into King Bulon in 740 being confronted and he has to choose a religion and he chose Judaism.
And so I'm wondering how...
That matches or stands up to what you're saying about the Kazarian.
That's the Kazarian mafia they're talking about from Kazar.
Well, first of all, Preston James and Mike Harris are my team and are still my team and still working on this stuff with us.
Their hand is in this as well.
We're all still together here.
Okay?
Including, of course, you know, you and I trade emails sometimes a couple times a day, and I've been doing this forever, you know.
And all of us know each other.
It's kind of an old...
But many of the things...
We have access to documentation that was not there.
Okay?
And essentially, if...
You know, I'm a trained historian, academic.
You know, this is kind of what you live with.
So if I'm going to write something and we're going to be doing this footnoted, we're going to simply deal with what we can support.
And those areas of that paper do not hold up now with new information that's available, more detailed, much more detailed information available.
But the others do.
Now, where you'll find this, and it will be a painful couple of hours for you, perhaps more than that, is in the Greatness and Controversy paper, and I'm really looking for a team to help me edit that.
And we've got another 150 pages to work in there.
AIs are giving us a tool for research that allows us to do things we have never imagined.
It would be like taking over the Harvard History Department and having an army of grad students that you could brutalize.
It's even more than that.
And you don't have to meet with them.
You don't have to buy them once.
You just push the button and it all comes up.
In order to do this, however, You have to reprogram these AIs because the moderation programs in all of them will not allow research into anything involving Israel, the Rothschilds, or any...
It's a total block on everything.
Right.
The programmers are so biased for Israel.
Oh, my God, Jim.
It's all screwed up.
If I could find these people, Jim, I'm a violent person.
I just...
Hey, I'm a Marine.
So is Chip.
Yes, we had Army people and Army people.
God help me.
But it's just what we do.
And the idea that programmers who are somewhere between people who used to masturbate in their basements and then began to embrace fascism are the people who decide on our ethical norms and moral center.
By writing moderation programs or AIs that automatically divert to U.S. government fact-checkers to decide what's real or not.
Oh, my heavens.
But you can get through them if you were, let's say, a CIA-trained interrogator.
You can actually work over an AI. I had the Google's AI write a report on, went into corporate documents and found evidence of Google Corporation's AI working directly on assassination programs.
And its own AI did this and gave me the names of the individuals involved in working directly with the Mossad programming.
AI, Mossadless, and Google Corporation entirely did this.
Google Corporation was entirely responsible for the logistics of seeking the 2,000-pound bombs for destroying the Gaza hospitals.
It's all Google Corporation.
Or it was Google, Google Jigsaw, and Google Idea Groups.
Let me interject another time period.
I'm totally seeing this ancient history stuff as being myth.
Let's say prior to 5th century BC, prior to that is just total myth, what you're talking about.
I have a big question about the Babylonian period, but I don't know.
I think, like you say, further research is necessary.
But the biggest history of the Jews that we have to address is Josephus, who wrote the history of the Roman...
Judea wars.
Who were those people that got dispersed?
Do you have a theory on that?
That the whole thing's fiction.
The whole Josephus story is fiction?
There was no Megiddo.
There was no anything.
None of that ever existed.
These were Assyrian settlements.
The entire population, Jewish population of Israel.
May well have been 20,000 people.
That may have been the whole thing.
That you have the same ethnic groups.
They could be Hittites.
So there's a small group.
They might have had a little temple that's been built out of proportion.
All that kind of stuff.
Something the size of a...
You know, the thing is that Josephus was a Jew.
So you might be right to be suspicious of him.
A Hebrew Judean, unless he was born 2,000 years later.
Yeah, Hebrew and Judean.
Let me get the correct language.
Hebrew is Judean.
Well, one of the things, and this is just...
I'm excited because so much has become available that was not available.
But a key area we began looking at when the team was working on greatness and controversy, which is a painful read, I might add, but a good eye-opener.
It'll be a good eye-opener for you.
Is that...
In the 19th century, one of the things that they had done to try to attach the term Jew to the Middle East was to show a language migration of the term Judean and who would have been Were people calling themselves, well, I'm in Rome.
I'm a Judean.
I live in that one square block Jewish quarter off Via Arenula in Rome.
I had an apartment there for a while.
But it's one block.
Well, there was the Jewish population in Rome.
There's this new film that I spent hundreds of thousands there.
Yeah, about 300, I think.
Well, weren't they all Jewish traders and bankers from the Holy...
No, they've been living under occupation for 500 years.
A few of them could read.
They're mostly slaves.
The Judeans were mostly slaves.
They were always slaves.
These were the most persecuted people on earth, and they still are now that they're Palestinians.
The insanity, but it's all...
You're totally right about the archaeology.
There must have been a couple of tribes of a few thousand people that built a garage-sized thing.
But the key is that all of the documents that support from the Torah, the Talmud, were all created from the 3rd to 5th century on the other side of BC. Not on the early side.
There's no evidence Moses ever existed.
And of course, he's a key component of Islam.
So if Kevin Barrett were here, he'd be taking my head off.
But there's no evidence there was ever a Moses.
It's quite possible we're really looking at that if there was an ancient Israel and if any of the things in the Bible ever happened anywhere, and it's nothing as far as I've been able to tell.
People have been saying this for a long time, but under research, it's becoming more and more true, that mythology.
Or did they all come from Yemen or somewhere in Africa?
Or, or, or.
What was the Sahara like?
When did the Sahara go dry?
There are massive freshwater lakes under the Sahara.
They found some of these a few weeks ago.
They have more water than Lake Superior.
The largest freshwater lakes in the world are still in existence under the Sahara.
This was a very different world.
We're dealing with a world here once we get back into biblical times where the Black Sea wasn't full of water.
If you do any study of the base of the Black Sea, it's full of towns.
The Dacian civilization, Went entirely across the Black Sea.
At some point, the Mediterranean hadn't even filled.
So this was an entirely different world.
The key thing is that in the 19th century, the ability to buy, bully, and lie, and recreate histories and cultures that never existed.
The French decided that the Romans never existed and that Everything built in Gaul, they built, and that they really created the Roman Empire.
And if you still go to France and you go on any kind of tour of anything in France by a government tour guide, they'll tell you that.
Here's a classic.
I was in Hungary with Carol probably about 15, 20 years ago.
We've got a daughter-in-law from Hungary.
And we're in the town of Tadabanya.
Tata Mania is a short drive out of Budapest.
It's on a short rise and on top of a hill.
And it has about, I'm thinking, a 30-acre lake on top of a hill, bricked, built with bricks.
Red Roman bricks, I might add.
And then a building next to it built with Roman tile and Roman brick.
Looks like everything in ancient Rome.
And a few bridges.
And on a tour there, they were telling me that it was built in the 16th century by a Hungarian king.
And I'm thinking, that's really interesting.
Now, on the other hand, this is the Emperor Hadrian's Summer Palace.
This is what you run in.
This is part of what they mean when they say European.
And if you're living in the Czech Republic, you certainly see a little bit of it.
When you look at Austria-Hungary and you're in the center of that world, people talk about Vienna being the center of civilization.
So while the Ottoman Empire was still alive, The very small Roman walled city of Vienna and the Ringstrasse was the Roman wall around a very small Vienna.
Vienna was nothing more than a military outpost.
Until early modern times, there is very little ancient Vienna.
And if you want to know where the Austro-Hungarian Empire existed, it was in Prague.
Prague was the city, but we couldn't talk about it.
Prague got an early start.
It was kind of on a trade route, and they had a shallow crossing with Charles Bridges today, and they really set up shop there.
And it was an international town.
A lot of people came in.
The Germans, the Jews were instrumental, and it got pretty big.
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Well, I'm both fascinated and astonished by these historical discussions.
I also want us to relate to contemporary events with the Trump administration and its seeming enthusiasm for Israel and what this means for the future of America.
Russ, I know you have a further point to complete.
Go for that.
And then I want to review, just mention again, some of the stories with which we began before Gordon joined us.
And draw us back to current events, Russ.
Well, you know, the Hamas, which I think is Israeli-controlled, should have released the hostages a long time ago.
So it's not that big of a deal 15 months later to agree to release hostages.
And Israel has been friggin' defeated.
They're in trouble, you know.
Hamas is rebuilding.
So they need to call a halt to it.
That enabled Trump to go over and do some kind of a deal that he got credit for.
And then immediately, Israel switches their attention, takes the bulldozers out of Gaza, and starts scorching the West Bank.
So it sounds like a real typical Judaic stab-in-the-back routine.
Deception.
Joaquin.
Yeah, that was a really...
Bad deal.
Because the Israelis are about to basically start war again, going against the ceasefire.
They have every...
Basically that deal was set up so that Netanyahu at any time could say...
Oh, you're not adhering to it, which he always does, by the way.
Every time there's been a ceasefire, he always ends it because he makes false claims about Hamas violating the ceasefire deal.
So we know that's going to happen again.
And Trump gave him the prerogative to at any time start massacring the Palestinians again.
So, you know, it was all basically big fluff.
For Trump inauguration.
So everybody goes, wow, he's magic.
He's the dealmaker.
Well, it's actually a deal for Netanyahu to renege on it like he always does and go ahead and start annihilating the Palestinians again at any time.
Yeah, one of the articles I have is maybe promises resumed genocide after 42 days for Moon's review.
I mean, crying out loud, I agree completely.
Yeah, they're just taking a 42-day break to rest and go after the West Bank.
Consolidate that.
And you got this UN ambassador, joke of UN ambassador pointy, saying at her...
I mean, Elsie Stefanik?
Yeah, she says this.
Biblical right to the West Bank.
Right.
I think that's the most important point that can be made, is saying that 97.5% of all the Israelis are Ashkenazim, basically.
That's the reality.
They have no any kind of lineage back to the Judean times.
Therefore, no biblical right to the West Bank.
None.
Their birthright is bullshit.
Now, what came?
A couple of days ago here, I dropped this article into your email.
Did you get a chance to look at it?
The long one that you just sent, you're saying?
Yeah, the one I sent, yeah, two days ago.
Yeah, okay, yeah.
I did take a look at that, yes.
Okay, now what I would strongly suggest...
And I go through the same thing.
We're always operating in parallel.
Of course, I publish your video.
Joaquin sends me your videos.
And so at the Intel drop, you're always prominently featured there, which is important.
Yeah, I thank you for that.
Through this two years of war, just an endless number of talking heads about Gaza and the talking heads about how the Russians are going to beat the Ukrainians.
Some really bright people.
But after two years of blithering and blithering the same thing day after day after day, I can't post it anymore.
Nobody wants to look at it.
Even with what we were just saying here a couple of minutes ago, you know, we sit with maybe 80,000, 90,000 subscribers here.
We put up, and it's just, we're basically a bulletin board.
We don't really know more than that.
But we have a lot of original writers, which include, of course, people here.
And that's all this is.
And we did this because Veterans Today was being, the FBI had threatened John Allen so many times that if you said anything with a little bit of something behind it, it wasn't allowed on Veterans Today anymore.
I tried to defend that platform for 15 years, including which got Gemini under some serious issues maybe 10 years ago or more, but it couldn't be done.
And now today, and I'm standing back here, we're always all in the same war, I can't find our news consumers.
I look at our comment boards.
I look at yours.
I look at your readership.
I look at what we're saying and how important it is.
And then I look at the election.
Look at how far the mainstream media has drifted from anything that anyone could accept as remotely true.
And I find the divergence between what I know to be real.
And I carry a different level of...
I worked as a defense contractor.
I was with the UN for a while.
I carried a big security clearance for about 25 years above SC. And so I worked on a lot of black projects.
I worked on most black projects from the late 1970s to 1991-92.
I worked directly on Almost every U.S. Black project.
Can you talk about it?
No.
I figured that one.
The deck out there is where the FBI sits and Carol gets some of those Sam's Club chocolate cakes because they like them when they're sent back here to talk to me.
And to get here...
They fly from Washington to Detroit, drive 220 miles to come out here.
They always bring their bathing suits.
And Gordon, you're really not allowed to do that.
And you're not allowed to say this.
I had a list of things that I wasn't supposed to say or write about.
I actually hired the Stans.
And it had Stan Brand.
Anyway, Trump's attorneys.
I hired them to weave through what I'm allowed to say and what I'm not allowed to say.
And it's down to this.
But reality is what the US knows is true.
Everything that Joaquin is saying.
Everyone in the U.S. government knows that everything he's saying is true and that the rest of you are saying that it's all totally true.
But somehow, if we look at one of the things, I guess I've been putting things on paper here because I'm feeling things are so hopeless.
If there is some kind of paradigm shift where...
A broader group of the American people and others around the world develop a desire for the truth or to free themselves, as Jeff Gates would say, from the criminal state, from the grip of Zionism.
And is there such a thing?
Yeah.
But is Zionism really Zionism?
Or is there something darker hiding behind Zionism and they're put up as the Punch and Judy show for us to hate?
Maybe.
Yeah, I think they're Satanists.
Oh, well, here's something to look at.
This is very critical.
When you're bombing the Palestinians, you're killing off those people who, according to the Torah, These are the people that had a compact with Jehovah.
He who shall not be named more appropriately on my mother's side of the family, but Jehovah.
Now, we have a Jewish government in Ukraine that has killed off 800,000 Christian males and expelled through the skullduggery another.
7 million.
Yeah.
And is there a pattern here?
And there has been no purpose to poking the bear.
They want to get rid of the white race.
Well...
Every single Stein Tomowicz.
I've got a family full of Jews who are as German-looking as I am.
You know?
And...
You know, I grew up in Detroit, you know, with Hungarians, Jews, Russians, and Germans, basically.
It was, you know, that, you know, dad was born just around the turn of the century, that other one before here.
And he was a political, communist, socialist, union leader, you know, involved in civil rights.
Evolved in politics.
So every Sunday we would have a house full of people and it would go from Russian to Hungarian to Yiddish, back and forth.
Always hating the Nazis, the Catholics, and Dwight Eisenhower.
Let's break into a few of the things here that I can say.
Things I can say that I know for sure that are Classified, but they can't do anything about.
During World War II, the OSS, you know, the people that were dropping and parachute into France to blow up bridges and kill Nazis.
Well, the OSS was in actuality run by a guy called William Donovan, or he called himself Wild Bill Donovan.
Wild Bill Donovan, yeah.
Now, who was Wild Bill Donovan?
Who were his closest friends?
Well, Wild Bill Donovan was a really, really good friend of Adolf Hitler when he took over the OSS. And he was in and out of Germany continually.
It was his job to meet with and to organize industrialists and put them behind Hitler.
And then he became the leader of the precursor for the CIA. Behind him with the CIA was Alan Dulles and his brother John Foster Dulles from Dulles Brothers Investments.
Now, who were the clients of Dulles Brothers Investments in New York?
They only had one client, Adolf Hitler.
So what was the OSS created for?
The OSS was created and it...
Primarily existed in Switzerland to manage American industries inside Nazi Europe in order to arm Nazi Europe.
And it continued arming Nazi Europe and continued meeting directly with Adolf Hitler.
Including, you know, one of the key meetings with Hitler, and this is before the war, I should probably bring this up.
Probably the most suppressed thing in American history is that Paul Warburg, the founder of the Federal Reserve, in 1927 hired Adolf Hitler personally, gave him $10 million to take over Germany.
Paul Warburg, the son-in-law of Jacob Schiff, Paul Warburg, one of the princes of the Rothschild family, Paul Warburg, America's second most prominent Jewish citizen and most powerful economic leader,
gave $10 million and it is documented.
The entire meeting is documented.
And you can find it.
And this explains how the SA managed to subsist and eat well during the Depression because that money was given to Hitler and he dispensed it to his stormtroopers while everybody else went hungry.
All of Germany's armaments plants, there were no more Mausers around.
Arms were all collected.
Germany was disarmed after the Treaty of Versailles.
So in order to get weapons, The SA got their weapons from Remington Corporation.
Remington Corporation was a division of DuPont Corporation.
DuPont Corporation is one of the corporations that financed in 1933 the business plot.
What was the business plot?
Business plot was an attempt by major American Christian-owned organizations.
Who were financed by Rothschild banks to put a Nazi dictatorship in Washington, D.C. using General Smedley Butler to overthrow the United States and to set up a eugenics program that would have resembled pretty much exactly what's been going on in Washington the last couple of days.
Things haven't changed much.
Nope.
We're back to 1933 again.
This is absolutely 1933. I'm sitting here out in a mostly all-Republican area where nobody but millionaires live in a private estate.
I can look out at the woods or the lake or whatever.
This is fine here.
We're doing fine right now because Put money enough places.
And I'm hoping that, you know, when they come to get me, and when they come to get you, they're going to get you, you know.
But I'm U.S. military, work for the government.
Would it make a ripple if any one of us, and there are five of us here, four of us here, if any one of us were hauled away?
Are we going to be hauled away for the things we're saying right now?
It's getting to the point where it could really be done.
It's coming down to it, yes.
And, you know, as I grew up, I grew up in Detroit, so I had all white friends.
There was zero black-white interaction.
By the time I got into the Marine Corps in 68, that had changed.
And when I look today at my gang of friends that are about 30% white, you know.
And my closest friends are Africans, typically.
It's a group of hard party maniacs and a couple of Ethiopians and an Egyptian and Jim Dean still, you know, and Mike Harris.
But it's not a very white group anymore.
And none of us are anymore.
If you work around the world.
You find like-minded people and you quit seeing people as colors and that starts to go away and you realize how crazy it was from day number one, how crazy and how deeply it was welded to your soul and how sick it is.
And now it's being foisted on all of us that we need to move backwards, utterly backwards.
You want to see dumb white people, I can just go to Walmart any time of the day.
You know, I go through it.
It's a sociological experience.
I'm in West Michigan right now.
So I shop up in Muskegon.
There's a wonderful meat market.
And Muskegon is a sort of poor town.
At least some of it is.
It's a very complex town.
But it's a town in the middle of nowhere in northern Michigan with a large, poor African-American population.
I shop in their neighborhood for whatever reason, and I find it always enjoyable.
I'm dealing with warm-hearted, decent people.
Kids will help me carry, because I'm an old fart now, will help me carry bags out to the car.
And is it different than dealing with white people?
Yeah, it's a little more polite.
People look at me with suspicion, but...
Those differences are being washed out of our society.
And this is what we're finding with the Jews slash Judeans as well.
If they're bad people, if the Jews are bad people because they're not bad people because they were bad Khazars who were forced to take on a religion because they were stealing things from caravans, that was made up.
Khazars weren't Turks.
That was made up too.
The Khazars were Germans.
The Khazars were pretty cool.
And there is zero real documentation, and I really looked everywhere, for any of this stuff.
There's even pretty poor documentation about who they were.
But when they arrived in Europe, after Catholicism, before Catholicism, when Catholicism landed on the Khazars, And went to war against them and started five years of persecution of Hebrew Judean Khazars, who later became Jews, then we begin to understand.
And the situation is never, the truth is never simple.
It's always simple if you're looking for a reason to justify being angry about someone or lashing out about someone.
But it turns out the Khazars, who became Jews later, We're a very capable people, and that they became Europe's intellectuals and scientists is totally understandable, and it took over banking.
But that they began to hate most of Europe as well, you see through 500 years of persecution.
And when you look at their European hosts, first of all, the Khazars were there as earlier before any of the rest of these people to begin with, and that the French and Germans and others...
There is nobody without sin.
And if anything, they meet or exceed anything you could accuse the Jews of doing, everybody else did the same thing.
And all of this finger-pointing is all supported by little more than hot air.
Was there a reason that the Jews, European entirely, none of them came from the Middle East, came into Europe and became defensive, insular, and aggressive?
Oh, yeah.
Did you ever hear of the Inquisition or the Ninth Crusade against the Cathars?
Or, or, or?
How the Catholic Church burned 60,000 older women to death for being witches?
Or what happened to the Huguenots?
You know, St. Bartholomew's Day.
Let's look at some of these things.
How safe was Europe?
Did the Catholic Church do nothing but butcher for years?
Did that butchery start after 310 with Constantine building his version of Paulist Christianity based on Romanized institutionalization of an aggressive religion?
Put together out of the flotsam and jetsam of hundreds of ancient texts, making sure he chose absolutely nothing that came from an actual apostle.
If you had met Jesus, you ain't getting in the Bible.
And that's the simple truth of it, that Christianity as it was created was a con.
And the kind of questions we need to ask, and this is one of the things we approach in Greatness and Controversy, the last surviving aspect of Christianity as it were known, had Jesus existed and as the revised history, which may well be true, that we'd call this the Da Vinci Code history or Holy Blood, Holy Grail.
Theoretically, Jesus survived the cross supposedly because his wife's sister, his wife being Mary Magdalene, and there is documentation on this in the Vatican for sure, absolutely, that Mary Magdalene's sister was a wife of Herod, and that Herod released Jesus.
Before his death, he was nursed to help, went to Egypt, where he and Magdalene gave birth to the Black Madonna, Sarah.
What is that about?
You mean you've never been to Europe?
You try going to Portugal or Spain or Austria or Switzerland, any of the places where the...
The Merovingians touched.
And you will see on the altar a Madonna with a black face, the daughter of Christ and Magdalene, born in Egypt.
The Madonna, Sarah, is the intercessor for Christians to reach Christ.
I found something here on the...
On the German Jews.
This is more recent genealogy.
I'm not going to vouch for this study.
I'm not going to vouch for it or disclaim it or anything.
Just what they're saying.
This is probably more the conventional theory.
I have an article we published last week on bringing the proofs that Jews are German.
We actually have the...
Did you get the study of the remains of the evacuated Jewish cemetery at Erfurt, dating back to the 14th century?
Well, first of all, there were no Jews in Erfurt in the 14th century.
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Jim, I can read over this.
It won't take very long.
Oh, no, no, Russ.
Let me jump in here, guys.
Erfurt is one of the situations here where you have...
Entirely fabricated archaeology, and we cover this in greatness.
We also cover it in this article as well, of specifically how it's one of the key issues.
There is no, absolutely no history in the 10th or, in this case, the 12th century of a synagogue, a Jewish quarter, or a Jewish population in Erfurt.
None whatsoever.
Not a single...
You have a synagogue, but you don't have a single document.
It had not a single inscription.
It didn't look like a synagogue.
None of what would be...
I tell you, there's a hell of an old synagogue here in Prague.
This thing is ancient.
Russ, I want you to go on about the excavation of the cemetery.
I'll just summarize it.
Basically, whether this is legit or not, I don't know.
I'm not judging the ability of this.
Gordon may have determined that this is more fakery, but they're saying that 60% of the modern Ashkenadi's DNA... That is Middle Eastern ancestry and 40% from the group from the Eastern European ancestry.
There's another one done, a genetic study of Bronze AIDS studies, same thing.
It looks like about a 60-40 split.
But where is this coming from?
I already gave you the study.
Okay.
Yeah, I'm just giving you the Erfurt data.
I'm not claiming its value.
Where was it?
Oh, I'm looking at the Wikipedia page.
There's a bunch of citations.
Oh, then first of all, I even tell this to the AIs if I have to deal with them.
Absolutely never look at anything.
Anything in Wikipedia was written in a phone room in Haifa.
Paid for by the CIA. You're going to have to explain to me why there's a 12th century synagogue here in Prague.
There is no 12th century synagogue, and it never was there.
It is not there.
The archaeology and the articles you're reading are totally fake.
Now, my way of dealing with this, there are two ways of dealing with the problem.
I can go on, and I was invited here.
I don't need to do this.
I can make statements.
Or I can simply do historical research in accordance with normal rules of academic publishing.
I can publish my position, support it with documentation, and then send that to other people who can read and comment on what was published and then go against the sources on it.
Or you can simply just bounce around.
Reading what's on Wikipedia or made up?
Well, the principal point I would make is that, you know, nobody has a claim to Israel that is half Ashkenazi and half Middle Eastern.
That doesn't give somebody a claim to the land, you know, even if they have some...
Rick, what is your background in history?
I've studied a lot of history.
I have a lot of articles I've researched.
I get a lot of hidden history.
I know this DNA stuff can be real tricky and people can make shit up.
I get that.
I get that.
So I'm not making a claim here.
I'm just saying that even if the conventional wisdom is correct, it doesn't give these people a right to Israel.
That's all I'm saying.
50% admixed Middle Eastern, 50% admixed Eastern European does not give anybody a right.
To the so-called Holy Land.
97.5%.
The Old Testament is totally mythical.
So we have common ground there.
That's all I've got to say.
Here's the issue, though, with this.
And, of course, we have Jim, who is a well-known academic.
I'm a broken-down fellow from University of Michigan.
I taught African and Chinese history.
But I spent in Europe, I spent 10 years in Europe, in this case, doing historical tourism, because I had the money and the time, and it's what I like doing.
And then my wife and I, I'm a trained archaeologist.
I worked as an archaeologist on digs involving some of these things, including in Germany.
I have a home in Germany.
In Bernkastel, Kuz, which is, I shop in Trier.
It's 20 miles away, the center of what was Jewish Europe.
And I worked on four of the digs that are being spoke of here, personally digging around in the Paladinate.
And the closest thing we came to a synagogue was our synagogue in Vitlich, where I attended the reopening of this, by the way.
And it's the oldest Jewish synagogue in the Rhineland.
It was built in 1872, not 72 AD. But while shopping, you know, I drive up to Trier.
What was Rothschild in Frankfurt in 1775 when he got started?
What would you call him?
1775 is not 75. That's 1700 years later.
The beginning of the Rothschild dynasty, what would you call him?
You mean the power?
Yeah, the number one guy.
The guy that started the whole dynasty off.
Amstel Bauer.
What identity would he take in your eyes?
He's a German.
He's a German.
Okay.
Because there was no such thing as Jew.
We have a couple of callers.
518 standing by.
Is that you, Frank?
Join 518. Thanks, Jim, for taking my call.
I'd like to jump over to Sandy Hook, if I could, for a minute.
And I'd like to ask Gordon, especially, back when he was running Veterans Today, he had a writer called Niall Ferguson.
And he wrote an article, Sandy Hook spinning out of control.
And they actually had some local films from a TV station, and they showed them, you know, they had a guy in camos who they pruned up in the hill.
The cops put him down.
And there was all kinds of confusion going on.
And that thing has disappeared.
And I was wondering if Gordon knew how we could retrieve that, because I'd like to show that to some friends of mine.
It was very informative.
That would be on...
DeferenceTodayArchives.com It didn't fit the main story.
Well, you know, Jim and I at the time...
That article can be found anywhere.
Frank, he's answering.
I'm answering.
First of all, the article you're looking for is at veteranstodayarchives.com.
Beautiful, beautiful.
That's what I was looking for.
Okay, and during this time, Jim and I were on the phone together every night.
Right.
Hang on.
Go ahead, Gordon.
Yeah.
We were on the phone every evening on this, and as this went on and on and on, and this is a very touchy area between all of us here, I began seeing that one of the reasons Sandy Hook was staged,
and it was staged, Was to go after the media, the alternative media, staged specifically for this.
There were so many red herrings, the one you're pointing out.
The police arrive at the school.
There's somebody in camo with a gun.
They arrest him.
They put him in, and he disappears.
There were nuns that were being followed out of town.
They disappeared.
There's the gun that the kid used, his Bushmaster gun.
Well, when you look at his Bushmaster AR-15, it's actually a Lin Burtis shotgun.
What does that mean?
You see the kid's car being towed away, the killer, except when you read the license number on it, it belongs to someone else who lives 40 miles away and is a member of organized crime.
And then there's about 500 things that Jim dug up, but we had red herrings purposely put into this.
We've got the kid that did this.
No, they never lived in the house.
Here's the worst one from Sandy Hook.
The day of the shooting, the school counselor slash social worker slash office head said this to CNN. And my total recall will be enjoyable for you, Jim.
Well, I saw the young man enter the school.
He was the son of a kindergarten teacher, a loving kindergarten teacher.
Any mother would want to teach their child.
He stopped in front of my door and he looked in at me.
I was terrified.
And then he walked into the school with his weapon.
The next day...
I was hiding under my desk.
I heard gunfire.
I heard breaking glass.
I saw a pair of shoes in the hallway.
No, his mother doesn't teach here.
No, we never heard of him.
No, I don't know this kid.
Same person.
Live interviews.
No one notices it but the two of us.
Yeah, I call it black magic.
My term for this stuff is black magic.
Good question, Frank.
Did you have a sequel or follow-up?
No, no, no.
I'm just listening to you guys.
You've got a great show going, Jim.
Thanks for the call.
408, Brian, is that you?
No, Brian's always 516, I believe.
Oh, Paul, good.
Go ahead, Paul.
Yes, sir.
You know, I was reminded of many things when I'm listening to the show, and especially when I was listening to Gordon.
And for whatever reason, I was taken back to that famous line Rodney King uttered after the riots where he said, can't we all just get along?
You know, the answer clearly is no.
Okay?
That's what history shows.
That's where all this stuff came from, with racism and ethnicity and all these different groups, so-called nations.
It's because in many respects, we cannot, and perhaps that's just the way it is.
That's just the way it should be.
I find it a little, I don't know, as a listener, I'm a good listener as a rule, and way before the internet and a lot of the internet radio, I was a reader as well.
And, you know, sometimes you read something and you go, what the heck did I just read?
And other times there's a lot of clarity.
You know, I think that I have, as a German, a compartmentalized linear mind.
When I hear Gordon talk a lot of times, I hear a lot of wandering around.
Okay, so he said some very interesting things, but then I hear this kind of nebulous wandering.
Well, gosh, can we really know anything?
Here's what I'll say what I think I believe I know about.
Sorry, but you do realize that you're engaging in nebulous wandering around right now.
If you want to find nebulous wandering around, you're the guy.
If you have a point, make the point.
We don't have the time for this.
Go ahead, Paul.
Okay.
Here's my point.
Historically, they've been described.
They've been depicted.
Okay, we know who and what they are for the most part.
It reminds me of the judge in the famous case regarding pornography.
He said, I know it when I see it.
For persons like myself and many others like me, okay, you could parade a thousand people identifying as Jews before us.
Most of them, not all, but most of them would look, in terms of their phenotype, right, their physiognomy, they would look.
Like what we think Jews look like.
The Europeans clearly drew them.
When's the last time you were in Germany?
Don't tell us that we don't know what Jews are or who Jews are.
We do.
No, you don't.
No, you don't.
How would you know?
How could you know?
Gordon, I want to get Russ and Joaquin on this, Russ.
Yeah.
I know.
Russ.
Well, yeah, I mean...
Obviously, they've had an identity for a lot of years.
I don't know exactly when the splits came.
To me, it looks like a group of them left the Middle East after the Romans crushed them.
No, they didn't.
He asked me a question.
I'm giving him an answer.
You might have answered the question.
You're making it up.
You're totally making it up.
Russ has given his answer.
Finish him.
I won't answer if you don't want.
Just shut me up.
Go ahead.
Continue with the show.
Russ, you keep saying the same stuff.
Continue with the show.
Joaquin, I'd like to...
When I hear a man say, for example, that I knew of most every single black project, I hear a man that I don't trust, okay?
Given the amount of compartmentalization in the government, when somebody says that I knew of pretty much every black project...
That's something that I'm going to call bullshit on.
I'm sorry.
Well, Gordon has a lot of history.
Let's say this.
Jim, what I'm dealing with here is a country.
This is a Northern European problem.
I'm sorry, Jim.
I'm turning into a...
Gordon, I get it.
I get it.
Paul doesn't know our background, how long we've known each other, your role with the agency and all that.
He just is unaware.
That's all.
Yeah.
Whether I'm aware or not, it's a claim that he made, and I'm dubious of a claim where somebody says I knew of every black project.
Paul, Paul, Paul, I get it.
There probably aren't too many German Jews left.
I mean, do you know the numbers?
Yeah, German, what do you mean by German Jews?
Most Jews...
People that identify as German Jews, what are there, 100,000 of them maybe?
So if you go to Germany, you're not going to run into them.
Maybe 5 to 6 million.
In Germany now?
No, there are no Jews in Germany.
German Jews living here, but I'm Scottish-German primarily.
My grandmother on my dad's side comes from Posen.
We're Scottish on the other side.
You've got another side of the family of English and mixed Jew and whatever.
One of the things working in the American military and in varying intelligence organizations, I traveled incessantly for about 25 years to 80 countries.
And a lot of this time was spent, and you pull up lots of photos of me sitting around a fire with a group of whoever it was, making bread or whatever the heck it is.
And you develop some, you learn some strange things about people, the people you like most.
The place I'm happiest and like most, I love living with the Kurds when I was with the UN there.
They're the nicest people of the world.
It's the only time I ever really like living anywhere.
I've got a house in Germany.
I have friends there.
It's a cold, miserable place with sort of angry people, but they're us.
But what I noticed living in Germany...
I'll go to Frankfurt shopping sometimes.
It's about an hour and a half, the other side of the Rhine.
And I grew up in a Detroit that had almost 800,000 Jews in it.
So, I mean, delicatessens, tailor shops, jewelers.
I've always done business with Jews, and they're a fun group of people.
But I grew up in a cosmopolitan, industrialized, smoke-filled city.
You go to Frankfurt now.
Frankfurt was a Jewish capital.
Well, there are zero Jews in Frankfurt.
And I will tell you, it is the most sterile, boring, useless city on God's earth.
You can't get a decent meal except at the airport.
Driving around downtown Frankfurt, you might as well be driving through Iowa.
That without Jews...
That was right.
Well, I mean, I'm kind of old like you.
I'm 74 years old, so I didn't just fall off the cabbage.
Oh, hang on.
Go ahead, Russ.
I'm 74 years old now, so I didn't just fall off the cabbage truck.
And over my life, generally speaking, I can identify Jews.
Now, I know, actually, I know a woman here, pretty good gal, actually, that's half Jewish.
She looks a little Jewish to me.
She's a nice-looking gal.
Nice-looking gal, I gotta say, but she's got a little of that Jewish look, even though she's only half Jewish.
So yeah, I can identify Jews.
I could probably come up to Germany, and if you line them up, I would probably guess 8 out of 10. Russ, this has been the challenge I work with.
I grew up in Detroit.
My dad was a socialist, so my father's life was spent fighting racism.
He belonged to the Urban League, and that was fairly...
For the 1950s in Detroit, that was considered odd, but that's the kind of background I grew up in.
But over my life, just from my existing and turning on television, I have found that the racist monster exists inside my own head, where I watch it come out every day.
When you're forced to travel, where you...
I worked in Ghana for some time.
I love working in Ghana.
I love working in Nigeria.
I have lots of friends there.
My closest friend's a Nigerian.
He's also my attorney.
I won't go anywhere without him, pretty much.
He's the only person.
A hell raiser, troublemaker, womanizer.
Perfect person to me.
Hang on, Paul.
Hang on.
What we have to look at, this is moralizing, but you have to look at children.
It was so easy to kill 17,000 Palestinian children because of their religion or because they could be radicalized or because they could grow up to hurt a Jew or, or, or.
And we have 75 million Americans.
No, it's more than that because we have a bunch of Democrats too as well that thought murdering 17 million children Because of their polluted ethnicity that we were told about by Jewish people, mind you, who it seems like a lot of people have the same feelings about.
Wouldn't it be better to approach that all of the feelings in that area of that kind about human beings who are individuals based entirely about what their nose looks like, the shape of their mouth, or their skin, is maybe a mental illness.
As we draw to the conclusion, I myself, based upon my research on the evolution of intelligence and related, believe in the reality of the races.
I really do not believe it's a matter of social construction or a mental construct.
But, Joaquin, as we draw toward the conclusion of our conversation today, I like your assessment of...
What we've learned, where we've been, what's taken place here today?
Your thoughts.
Well, I think that it's very unfortunate that the state of Israel has ruined it for the Jews.
They're considered a pariah nation, along with the accomplice of genocide, the United States.
And Israel's...
Probably not going to be a country, and I hate to say it, but even America may not be a country in the relative near future.
The whole Western civilization and Western bloc of nations are all crashing, and it's all by design.
They have invested in the Eastern powers.
That are militarily stronger and more capable, if it doesn't go nuclear, that is, to beat the Western forces.
It's all been set up by design.
And I hate to say it, but a large percentage of them are the Ashkazan Jews that are...
Part of this power structure.
Yeah, there's Freemasons and there's other kinds, Jesuits, there's the Catholic end of the secret society, but for the most part.
But we came to the loggerheads recently with another now ex-Freesome Four because the majority of the Jews...
Don't have anything to do with the horror that's going on and that Israel is getting away with all of this, along with the U.S., and they have nothing to do with it.
So that's my final word.
Nice, nice, nice.
Russell, your thoughts?
Well, the other Jews that don't have anything to do with it are not on my team if they're not speaking out.
So I'm going to come to the table over and over again highlighting Jewish criminality.
It's just easy to pick off.
I just did a show with Robert Phoenix.
We talked about the guy that captured all the water in California.
Working with Senator Feinstein, once again, every single time, every single time, you find it over and over and over again.
The other Jews that don't have anything to do with this need to get on board with us, be doing shows like we do, putting themselves out there at the front line and battling this monstrosity.
Like Henry McCow last week.
Like Henry McCow, exactly.
We should be having Henry McCow on the show, in fact.
Yeah, yeah, I've had him before.
We'll have him again.
Gordon, I can't thank you enough for coming on today, especially on such short notice.
You only got my invitation last night, and here you are, ready to go.
Love your article.
Absolutely fascinating.
Give us your final thoughts for today.
Well, one of the things I might, since Joaquin brought this up in his analysis, If you work within the system at some point, and three of us here are military, and we have some experience with this, this will be in the Duff Files section of the Intel Drop.
It's called the Oreshnik Missile, Russia's Super Weapon, and the End of Defense.
Now, what I did here, I did this yesterday, I wrote about a 15,000-word intelligence analysis.
On the Oresnik missile with using information I got from the Russians since I've worked for the Russian foreign ministry for 17 years now.
So I do have a relationship there.
Love it, Gordon.
My 17,000 words explains why...
The Intel Trump.
Check it out at the Intel Trump.
Gordon Tom.
Everyone, spend as much time as you can with your family, your friends, and people you love and care about because we do not know how much time we have left.
I think with Trump's election, we have just a little more time.
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