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Nov. 18, 2024 - Jim Fetzer
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The Raw Deal (18 November 2024) with Jerome "Jerry" Corsi, Ph.D.
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Not just any father.
You know, I need someone.
I was younger, so much younger than today.
I never believed anybody's help in any way.
Now these days have gone out and not so self-assured.
I'll find out if I'm in the channel line.
I'll open up the door.
Help me if you can, I'm feeling down.
And I do appreciate you being proud.
Help me get my feet back on the ground.
Won't you feel it?
Please help me.
This is Jim Fetzer, your host on The Raw Deal, this 18th day of November, 2024.
As we approach the 61st observance of the assassination of JFK in Dallas, Texas in 1963, I'm very pleased to have a return engagement by Jerome Corsi, where Jerry and David Mantico authored a book about the headshots, where David is a leading expert on the medical evidence in the world today.
We're going to turn to that after we begin by reviewing some international news developments, which are more than a bit disconcerting.
In particular, big trouble before exit.
Joe Biden approves U.S. targeting systems and long-range missiles for Ukraine to strike deep inside Russia.
Sundance.
It's not Joe Biden per se.
He is simply a useless pawn.
This action is coming from the people deep inside the IC, that's the Intelligence Community and State Department, who are committed to fomenting a serious conflict with Russia and Vladimir Putin, and the White House is about to change hands.
We previously said to watch out for this lame-duck session.
In response to a previous discussion about this, Russian President Putin said he had clear eyes on what long-range missile deployment inside Ukraine really meant.
Ukraine does not have the targeting systems or satellites to use long-range missiles for strikes into Russia.
If long-range missiles were used by Ukraine, they originated from the U.S. NATO and are deployed with the targeting of U.S. NATO. Putin clearly stated, if such weapons were used, Russia would not pretend or ignore this as a direct provocative engagement by NATO against Russia.
Knowing this, the people around Joe Biden have just deployed exactly what Putin warned about, Washington.
President Joe Biden has authorized Ukraine to use a powerful American long-range weapon for limited strikes inside Russia.
In response to North Korea's deployment of thousands of troops to aid Moscow's war effort, according to two senior U.S. officials, the easing of restrictions on allowing Kiev to use the Army tactical missile system to hit targets inside Russia is a significant reversal in U.S. policy,
and comes as some 10,000 elite North Korean troops have been sent to Kursk, a region of Russia along Ukraine's northern border, to help Moscow's forces retake territory gained by Ukraine.
The Biden admin fears that more North Korean Special Force units could follow in support of this effort.
The move preceded by two months, a return to the White House of President-elect Donald Trump, who had signalled he intends to end the war between Russia and Ukraine, but without offering details of how he will do so.
Thus, the precursor for direct conflict.
Joe Biden approved U.S. military advisors in Ukraine.
Joe Biden approved U.S. G.B.R. long-range missiles for Ukraine to strike deep into Russia.
Joe Biden's CIA interfered in the Georgia election and failed.
Joe Biden's CIA interfered in the Moldova election and succeeded.
Joe Biden is departing the White House.
This is the most dangerous time.
Putin will only take so much before he strikes hard.
Our government is under the control of the intelligence community.
Hooray!
Here we have Marinov while tweeting, Russia unleashes massive strike on Ukraine.
Russia fired 120 missiles and 90 drones, killing seven, crippling Ukraine's power grid.
Our defenses intercepted 104, but Kiev and several regions suffered severe damage.
Meanwhile, Michael Yan, U.S. government has gone insane.
He's writing from Buenos Aires.
I visited twice in 2008-2009.
Mind dump!
Russia has been threatened with annihilation by drug-addled children with nuclear weapons and long-range delivery capability.
President Putin understands a threat is ready to respond with nuclear weapons.
The worst loss of all this would not be Washington, D.C., but all the museums and Library of Congress.
A detailed record of our short but exciting national history.
Poof!
Gone like a Biden on crack.
Putin knows if Russia fires one nuclear weapon, Russia should go ahead and cast them all into the fire.
Russia will have little chance to survive, and should go full war without plan of eventual treating or reconciliation.
Putin knows he must totally devastate USA, Israel, and significant parts of Europe.
Some generations ago, the Allies put Japan into a similar circumstance.
This led to Pearl Harbor and other simultaneous attacks.
But before Japan's breakout attack, Japan tried very hard to negotiate peace.
We would not have it.
American allies did not want peace.
They wanted it.
Japan did.
Before the Pearl Harbor and other attacks, allies were strangling Japan of fuel and other resources.
For Japan, it became a case of now or never.
For the U.S., UK, Netherlands, and others, the object was not to negotiate peace with Japan, but to instigate war with Japan, and to pretend it was all Japan's fault.
Many Americans still apparently believe Japan just woke up one day and attacked us at Pearl Harbor.
And finally we dropped two nuclear weapons on civilian targets.
USA is today waging war on Americans.
This means nothing is off limits.
I have said from the beginning of this war with Russia, It would not be surprising to see U.S. create a causeless belly to make nuclear war on Russia.
This appears to be unfolding.
I would not be surprised to see U.S. false flag attack Americans or other allies or just skip the preliminaries and go full vampire on Russia.
The U.S. government has gone insane.
Russia has allies such as China.
Russia can arm Iran with nuclear weapons just as US armed Israel with weapons of Armageddon.
Israel is doing the national level equivalent of running amok doing an international school shooting completely insane as if on drugs.
Everyone can see U.S. and Israel waving their nuclear weapons in the air while shooting all the neighbors, their own people, and their pets.
Russia sees the cults running apart.
Russia has hypersonic missiles, basically nuclear sniper rifles.
Israel and U.S. are defenseless against hypersonic weapons.
Infantile adults have cheered their own demise.
And here, standing on the edge of nuclear combat, many adult minds cheer all this, saying it's cool to distract America and troll Kamala with happy meals that poke Putin in the chest.
Think this through.
Here from the Daily Mail.
Biden gives Zelensky the green light to fire long-range American missiles into Russia for the first time.
Raising chance UK will follow suit with all eyes on Putin's response.
President Joe Biden has lifted a ban on Ukraine's use of US-supplied long-range missiles being the war-dorn country to now strike deep inside Russia, sources say.
The decision is a major U.S. policy shift.
It comes as Biden is about to leave office and President Donald Trump has pledged to limit American support for Ukraine and end the war as soon as possible.
U.S. officials briefed the New York Times on the move in the wake of one of Russia's biggest aerial bombardments of Ukraine in the war on Saturday night.
Jerry Corsi, I'd welcome your thoughts, your comments on this very, very disturbing development.
Well, I think you've covered it pretty well, Jim, that you've got a situation here where Biden has escalated tremendously the potential for nuclear war at a time when Putin has been warning repeatedly not to allow these long-range missiles to be used.
Putin has made clear that The Europeans, you know, the Ukrainians don't have the satellites needed to provide the intelligence these weapons require, these high-precision, long-range Western-made missiles.
And the Ukrainian troops are not trained how to fire them or guide them or to operate them.
So it's not really a question about Whether or not these weapons are going to be used, it's really a question about whether or not NATO, and specifically the United States, are going to enter the war directly against Russia.
And the Biden administration seems willing to do that.
Now, to me, that's a reckless decision.
But again, if you try to figure out a logic behind it, The only logic you can come up with is that the deep state is determined to raise the war in the next two months to such a level that Trump will not be able to end it.
And that, again, secures their interest in perpetual warfare, will continue the money flowing to the arms dealers, and will probably, they would think, insulate Trump from removing these generals from office.
A lot of the military now realize that going back to the 2020 run-up to the 2020 election, when various military officers, including Milley as chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Refused to allow their troops to be used.
President Trump had then used the Insurgency Act to call out the military to stop the Black Lives Matter and Antifa riots that were going on across the country, including attempts to burn down St.
John's Episcopal Church from across the street, across from Lafayette Park, from the White House.
So these generals, I think, are trying to preserve their position and preserve the war.
And so again, I'm asking the question whether this is in fact a military coup that has taken over the Biden White House.
And again, I think this is a very dangerous moment in history and one that I don't think people fully appreciate how extremely dangerous it is.
I think it's foolhardy that this decision was made.
I would encourage that Trump should come out with a statement pretty soon indicating that he's aware of the problems and just call it exactly like it is.
In other words, a statement should say something like that That Trump should say, maybe Rubio make a statement to the fact that the Biden's administration of these long-range missiles is an unprecedented act of a desperate state to escape the investigation, prosecution, and court-martial of treasonous generals, spies, the FBI, and the Department of Justice.
And that if Zelensky does use such missiles, the U.S. will...
We'll stop all the aid to Ukraine.
We'll not move a finger to stop Russian armed forces to annihilate Ukraine.
They should also advise Britain, Germany, and NATO that the U.S. would rather pull out of NATO than be part of a nuclear war started at their sheer stupidity.
Trump can speak about it himself because he will not put himself in danger of being accused of getting us into a nuclear war.
And Trump is compiling a list of generals to court-martial.
And so I think these generals understand they'll stop at nothing to eliminate this threat.
So I'm beginning to question whether we're facing a, you know, essentially a military coup d'etat here where Biden is issuing the orders that the military have dictated to him have to be ordered in complete contravention of Trump's expressed desires to end this war once he's in office.
Jerry, I think that's an incredibly insightful analysis, really quite brilliant in my opinion.
I admire everything you said, and it makes perfect sense.
The generals feeling themselves at risk or willing to risk the nation's future because there aren't going to be any further arms transfers.
There aren't going to be a general fired when Putin has to take out the eastern seaboard of the United States.
If this happens, there's no way we will lose less than one-third of the American population.
We'll lose over 100 million citizens and non-citizens thanks to Biden bringing in so many of these miserable illegal migrants.
I would target the Pentagon, Langley, Boeing, General Dynamics, Raytheon.
Right off the bat, it's going to have to be a massive strike.
I think the original analysis there got it perfectly right that if Putin knows if he launches one nuke, he might as well launch them all.
Because that one nuke is going to provoke a massive retaliation.
And The West has so overplayed its hand here in Ukraine, Jerry, it's embarrassingly bad, insulting really beyond belief that we have put ourselves in this situation, which of course initiated began back in 2014.
When Victoria Nuland engineered the coup in Ukraine to depose a Russian-friendly but democratically elected president of Ukraine and install a Western-friendly stooge of whom Zelensky is the successor, And it's been all downhill from there.
I mean, even participating in the Minsk Accord, which was going to be a peaceful settlement of the conflict, but using it merely as a cover to build up Ukraine militarily What the West didn't anticipate was how robust, how superior Russia would prove to be.
And Putin has been so kind and gentle up to this point, Jerry.
It's just astonished me he could have had this over In a matter of days, weeks, max, had he gone directly for Kiev, which he chose not to do, and I believe only because he doesn't really want to take all of Ukraine, but I believe now he will be forced to, presuming, of course, that we survive what looks as though a Western-provoked nuclear exchange is about to take place.
Your further thoughts?
Well, I don't think Putin wants to take over Western Ukraine.
It's always been aligned with Germany.
It's still neo-Nazi.
Poroshenko was sending in neo-Nazi brigade units to go after the Freedom fighters have wanted independence in these two provinces in the western part of Ukraine that speak Russian.
And as Putin pointed out in his interview with Tucker Carlson, have been aligned with Russia for a thousand years.
So again, Ukraine's always been a divided country.
And I don't think Putin wants to take over the whole country unless he had no other choice.
But the point is, I think here, is that...
All this discussion about a peaceful transition of power is nonsense because I think we can't disregard the fact that this deep state has no intention of allowing Trump to rule without undercutting him at every step of the way.
And so, therefore, protecting themselves, and these generals might come to the conclusion that if they're going to be charged with treason, or charged with court-martialed, first of all, and possibly charged with treason, that they would rather cause a nuclear war than suffer that consequence.
So, in other words, it's a coup d'etat.
It's a preemptive strike against Donald Trump before he's inaugurated to remove his prerogatives To achieve peace in Ukraine.
And I think our military is now completely out of control in terms of its desire.
And by the way, the war in Ukraine started in 2013 when Hillary Clinton started receiving money from Ukrainian oligarch...
What's his name?
It ends with a P. I'll remember it in a second.
I've written about it extensively, but I'm escaping the name right now.
But she began taking money from Ukraine for the Clinton Foundation while she was a Parashenko, from Parashenko.
And she began taking money from him while she was in the State Department and running a private email server that allowed her to simultaneously conduct Clinton Foundation business and arrange State Department policy for these oligarchs who would pay for it.
So in other words, Hillary Clinton was engaged in bribery schemes while she was Secretary of State.
And when her private email server got exposed, she decided she would start the Russian collusion issue to cover that all up.
So you've had one lie after another lie after another lie.
And the State Department, I think the Democratic Party, has wanted to go to war with Russia ever since the fall of the Berlin Wall when Russia renounced communism.
The Democratic Party today is a communist party.
And they detest a country who has rejected communism.
And so, therefore, the hatred that the Democrats continue to exhibit towards Russia is all out of proportion to a former president, John Kennedy, who made every effort impossible in the Cuban Missile Crisis to come to terms with Khrushchev and avoid going to nuclear war.
Now we have this a complete contrast The Democratic Party are changing its motives on Russia.
You know, completely, I'm 180 degrees, completely reversing where they were in 1963, 62.
Jack Kennedy, you know, my book with David Mantic is The Assassination of John F. Kennedy, The Final Analysis.
It comes from that speech that John Kennedy gave at American University before he was shot, just before he was shot.
Which he said that, you know, we all live in a small planet.
We've all got to coexist.
We all breathe the same air.
He was trying to go for a nuclear test ban treaty, which he achieved.
He wanted to reduce nuclear armaments.
And again, he didn't want to go to war in Vietnam.
And those were factors, I believe, that contributed to the decision to commit a coup d'etat and kill John Kennedy, which I think our book, David Mantic's book, David Mantic's research with the X-rays proves.
So this is a extremely dangerous moment.
But, you know, I consider the State Department to be the diplomatic arm of the CIA. And I expect that they are all pursuing these deep state policies which have really no regard for the United States people or the United States Constitution.
Certainly the United States people voted overwhelmingly for Trump and embraced his proposition that we'd end the war in Ukraine.
And again, I think that we've got to understand that this may be the beginning of a coup d'etat And where that ends or how that proceeds, You know, what steps would the military go?
Would they cancel the inauguration?
Would the military engage in provoking Russia to the point where Russia did engage in nuclear, tactical nuclear weapons in use in Ukraine?
And the problem with nuclear weapons from the beginning, since World War II, once the Soviet Union got nuclear weapons, followed by China, is that the Calculations on nuclear war were that as soon as one side began using nuclear weapons in any capacity, the propensity for that to escalate rapidly into a thermonuclear war, that's an all-out thermonuclear war, increased dramatically.
So therefore, once that threshold is crossed, we're entering into very dangerous territory that we may not be able, we might lose control over.
We get...
Missiles being fired at Putin and Putin reacts.
Putin's already declared that he knows that these require U.S. troops and U.S. satellites to operate these U.S. long-range missiles.
And so Putin's already made it clear that their use means that the United States is now at war with Russia.
Jerry, I think that's a beautiful delineation of the situation we're in, as horrific as it is.
We need to understand what's going on here and now, and I believe you're correct.
This is, in essence, a military coup to preempt the policies that Donald Trump would introduce that he's already announced.
Which the military in general finds highly threatening, as does, of course, the military-industrial complex, is what happens to their profits if there are fewer wars in which the United States is engaged.
I think that was sensational, Jerry, much, much appreciated.
Meanwhile, Ann Galter has a very deft division of what happened here with regard to the election.
Black girl magic beaten by white male competence.
In retrospect, maybe running the DEI hire for president was not a good idea.
On the other hand, President Joe Biden's revenge plan worked perfectly, as reported by the New York Times.
After his catastrophic debate, Biden's White House staff kept presenting congressional Democrats with data, proving he still had a much better chance of beating Trump than his vice president had.
Then the moment he was defenestrated, guess who Biden endorsed?
Kamala Harris.
The candidate he told them could not win.
But she was a black lady, so checkmate.
Inasmuch as a sole motivating factor of the modern Democratic Party is identity politics, Democrats were forced to drop their plans for a stronger candidate like governors Josh Shapiro or Andy Becher.
No Democrat would dare suggest that Kamala was not absolutely the most qualified person for the job.
Just look at her!
A woman and a minority!
Harris's race and gender was how Biden got stuck with her in the first place.
An amazing choice for VB considering that she'd accused him of racism during the primary and that she had won a single vote.
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Just to continue what happened here, Ann Coulter's analysis, I believe, is very daft. I believe, is very daft.
Harris is not only a beneficiary but a tragic casualty of affirmative action.
This is how Democrats ended up running a dingbat who cheered on the BLM riots, enthusiastically released violent criminals from prison, insisted on taxpayer-funded sex change operation for prisoners and illegal aliens, compared ICE agent to the Ku Klux Klan, completely believed Jussie Smollett's hoax hate crimes, supported defunding the police, and said she wanted to decriminalize illegal immigration.
Indeed, Harris was the lead player in the administration's decision to defy federal law and fling open the border, sending millions of foreign criminals and mental patients to every corner of America.
The Democrats' obsession with dragging in the third world is itself part of the party's DEI framework.
Why do we have to admit tens of thousands from Haiti and the Congo?
Because they're black.
When Biden and Harris came in, DEI was instantly made a priority of every government organ.
The military, NASA, FEMA, the judiciary, on and on.
An astonishing 66% of Biden's judicial appointees have been non-white.
Even Barack Obama only managed to get up to 37%.
Biden's one Supreme Court appointee was, of course, a black woman, despite the fact that only 2% of the nation's lawyers are black women.
But he promised during the primaries to exclude 98% of lawyers from consideration in congressional testimony.
Biden's FEMA Administrator Deanna Criswell, herself a diversity pick, stated that FEMA's number one goal was to instill equity as the foundation of emergency management.
She boasted that she prioritized the hiring of now and wise.
When her agency subsequently failed in its response to Hurricane Helene, Criswell attacked anyone who mentioned her equity agenda as spreading disinformation.
Earlier this year, the incompetence of the gender-feminist head of the Secret Service nearly got Donald Trump killed.
The closest we've ever gotten to turning DEI into DOA. Thus, Kamala is a perfect representative of today's Democratic Party.
Her entire life has been one of a permit of action promotion after another.
She even got into law school on the basis of her race, as the law school has bragged.
And this week, she almost made it to the top on the basis of race and gender without doing, let alone achieving, anything.
Harris is not only a beneficiary, but a tragic casualty of affirmative action.
She can't really be as stupid as she sounds, can she?
Consider this classic Kamala philosophizing.
We were all doing a tour of the library here and talking about the significance of the passage of time, right?
The significance of the passage of time.
So when you think about it, there is great significance to the passage of time in terms of what we need to do to lay these wires, what we need to do to create these jobs, and there is such great significance to the passage of time.
As you can see, she's a loon, but we were required to act as if she were Zarathustra, for every utterance profound.
It's the same phenomenon that lead rich or very good-looking people to develop such terrific personalities, except in this case, the constant flattery is being done to a whole race.
Harris...
Jim, I've got to take this.
I interrupted to...
I had an interview scheduled, so let me take this and I'll come back to you.
To be on your show, I did...
Yes.
Oh, how long are you gone?
About 15 minutes.
Okay, do it, do it, do it, Jerry.
Hi, Jerome Corsi.
You gotta...
I'm doing good, thank you.
You gotta disconnect, Jerry, and then come back.
You gotta drop, because we're hearing you.
Harris has never had a moment of self-doubt.
Why would she?
No matter what she did, everyone was always telling her, You go, girl!
Instead of demurring from Biden's endorsement and suggesting a stronger nominee, perhaps a governor or a Democrat from a red state, Harris accepted her coronation as a matter of right.
She then proceeded to run as the angry black woman.
Backed up by other angry black women, like Michelle Obama and Oprah, actoring voters to make her president.
That always works on Democrats, so why not the electorate?
The problem with liberals using intimidation tactics to bully people into staying quiet about the incompetence of DEI hires is that the only way they ever have to register an objection is in the privacy of a voting booth.
And on Tuesday, boy, did they!
Wonderful.
Meanwhile, given Jerry's doing a short interview while we converse, E. Michael Jones appeared with Kevin Barrett to talk about False Flag Weekly News with a discussion of Trump's cabinet nominations, including the good, RFK Jr., Tulsi Gabbard, and possibly Matt Gaetz.
The bad, Kristi Noem, Chris Wright, Doug Bergen, and the ugly, Mike Walz, Mike Harkaby, Howard Lutek, Marco Rubio.
Actually, Trump's foreign policy team is beyond ugly.
It's a World War III cabinet.
But among all those horrid nominees, one name stands out as the most hideous, indeed, so far beyond ugly, that blocking confirmation is a matter of existential urgency.
That name is Keith Hegsath.
Who the hell is Hegsath?
That's a milder version of the question military and foreign policy professionals were asking when word of the nomination leaked, who the F is this guy, said a defense industry lobbyist granted anonymity to offer candid views.
Lobbyists said they'd hope for someone who actually has an extended background in defense.
That would be a good start.
Hegseth is a genocidal Fox News blatherer with no relevant experience.
He's best known for his enthusiastic support for war criminals and war crimes.
During Trump's first term, Hegseth successfully lobbied Trump to pardon some of the most horrific war criminals in U.S., even world history.
Murders of the children and elderly and homeless prisoners, rabeless scumbags, who kick in doors and slaughter entire families after violating the girls and women.
These are Hegseth's heroes in his raison d'etre for public service.
Why, devoted itself to helping child rapists and mass murderers of a justice, Hessep refers to a longer, a larger, and more ambitious project, saying off a nuclear World War III that would kill the majority of Earth's population.
He is one of the most fanatical members of an Armageddon Cult that seeks to unleash global nuclear war by blowing up the Alaska Moth and building a blood sacrifice temple in its place.
According to Armageddonite Christians, the war thus unleashed will kill all Jews and most of the rest of the world people, excluding only themselves.
In some versions, familiar from Jack Chick's rapture comic books, the cult that will be beamed up by Jesus, While everyone else suffers horrific death, Jewish eschatologists make the difference.
According to the messianic millenarian fanatics in Netanyahu's cabinet, starring World War III by blowing up Alaska, will lead to the destruction and subjugation of all non-Jews, otherwise known as goyim, who are considered subhuman beasts worthy only of extermination and enslavement.
The Jewish Messiah, known to Christians and Muslims as the Antichrist or Dujai, will then rule the world unopposed from the rebuilt blood-sacrificed impulse.
Crazy cults that yearn for the end of the world are dime a dozen.
Despite their ubiquity throughout thousands of years of history, the world has stubbornly refused to end on schedule.
But putting those cultists in charge of the world's biggest military, which possesses thousands of nuclear weapons that could destroy human civilization many times over, could grease the skids for a self-fulfilling prophecy.
According to middle-of-the-road pundit Daniel McAdams, President-elect Donald Trump designated Secretary of Defense as a certifiable lunatic.
A cultist in the manner of Manson, literally, someone who needs to be in a mental hospital, who craves an apocalyptic war to end all of mankind so it's twisted understanding God, will come down and slaughter all, including Jews, who do not convert to his cult belief.
This is a truly dangerous person.
This is a person running our military machine.
The madmen have taken the asylum.
I think that's all very, very reasonable, all very, very appropriate, sad to say.
And let me give us some background now regarding what Jerry will be joining and discussing with us when he returns.
The book he did with David Mantic, The Assassination of JFK, The Final Analysis, has been reviewed by me on uns.com.
New book, Nails How JFK Was Taken Out into Ellis.
Background as we await Jerry's return.
A new book by David W. Manick, M.D., B.H.D., and Jerome Corsi, B.H.D., The Assassination of JFK, The Final Analysis, 2024, was published on 8 March 2024, and it sold 4,000 copies by 15 March, The Ides of March, which reflects the public's thirst for truth about the death of our 35th president.
David and I began collaborating in 1992 in the wake of Oliver Stone's magisterial film JFK, which presents the most accurate, completed, detailed account of what actually happened in Dealey Plaza on 22 November 1963, ever offered to the American people through the mass media.
But now we know more.
Having published three collections of expert studies on JFK with David Banty, Assassination Science 1998, Murder in Dealey Plaza 2000, for which he suggested the title, and The Great Uprooter Film Hook 2003,
I would like to explain the dozen-shot, five-hit account of what happened that day in that place while recommending everyone should follow the lead and obtain this book, which presents the most authoritative analysis of what actually happened based upon the research of the leading expert on the medical evidence regarding JFK in the world today.
Two shots from the front.
Everyone knows the official narrative of three shots fired from the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository by the lone gunman Lee Harvey Oswald.
What most do not know is that the FBI and Secret Service had concluded that evening.
That JFK had been hit three times.
Once in the back, five and a half inch and below the collar just to the right of the spinal column, a shallow shot, then only went in as far as the second knuckle on your little finger.
That Texas Governor John Connolly had been hit by a shot to the back, and JFK, by a second shot that hit the back of his head, which killed him.
During the afternoon and evening of the day of the assassination, however, Two shots were widely reported over radio and television live.
A shot to the throat, described as a small, clean wound of entry three times by Malcolm Perry, MD, during the Parkland Press Conference held following the announcement of his death by Malcolm Kilduff, acting press secretary.
Kilduff had pointed to his right temple and explained that it was a simple matter of a bullet right through the head, A finding that was widely reported and attributed to Admiral George Berkley, a president personal physician.
When you combine the shot to the throat and the shot to the right temple with a hit to JFK's back and to the back of his head, you arrive at a four-hit scenario, which is a very close approximation to the final analysis Manning provides in his latest book.
The Warren Commission bamboozled the public by falsely asserting there had been only three shots, all of which were fired from above and behind.
The shots, widely reported on radio and television to the throat and right temple, had to be suppressed, since their existence contradicted the official three-shot lone gunman narrative.
The cover-up commences.
Obviously, shots from more than one direction would imply more than one gunman and therefore that JFK had been killed by a conspiracy.
But the facts were elementary.
If you put together the two shots agreed upon by the Secret Service and the FBI, two hits agreed upon by the Secret Service and the FBI, which were supposed to have been fired from the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository, but were actually fired from the top of the county records building in the case of the shot to the back.
And from the second floor of the Daltex building, in the case of the shot to the EOP, external occipital protuberance, that small bump at the back of your head where you'd rest if you were reclining in a bathtub, with a shot to the throat, fired from inside the triple underpass and to the right temple.
From an above sewer opening at the intersection of the triple underpass and the big fence, there were inescapably four hits.
But instead, the mainstream media, led by the New York Times, went into cover-up mode and promoted the lone gunman theory, claiming three and only three shots had been fired on the sixth floor of the book depository, even though the reports of those two shots, to the throat and to the right temple, have been extensive, detailed, and compelling.
The vast majority of Americans have listened to or watched those reports, yet now are being told there had been only three shots, all of which had come from above and behind.
Can there be any doubt that many felt that something was wrong?
Whether or not they could put their finger on exactly why, Most were willing to hold their concerns in suspense and give the government all the time it needed to conduct a complete investigation of what many regarded as the crime of the century.
Little did they know that the government was busy concealing basic facts about how JFK had been taken out, especially those shots from in front, and that their designated Patsy could not have done it.
The CIA would soon adopt a massive psyop of characterized citizens who could add and conclude that JFK had been hit at least four times as conspiracy theorists, which would become SOP moving forward.
Oswald was in the doorway.
Lee was actually standing on the upper steps of the depository watching his JFK motorcade pass by.
One report, 1964, claimed the man in the doorway, called Doorman, was instead his co-worker, Billy Lovelady.
But the FBI had interviewed Billy on 29 February 1964, wearing the same clothing he wore on 22 November 1963, which was a red and white, vertically striped, short-sleeved shirt, completely different than the closely textured reddish-brown long-sleeved shirt that was worn by Oswald that day, where Larry Rivera has rendered a reconstruction of what the doorway looked like at the time.
It was so obvious that Billy was not a figure called Doorman, that he obfuscated his face by blacking it out, known as Black Hole Man, the students of these images, and whited out his shirt.
Notice other obvious indications of alteration, where black-tie man is both in front of and behind doorman at the same time, which is an optical impossibility, and by itself proves the photograph is altered.
Some of the best research on this issue has been done by Richard Hooke, Ralph Sinkey, and Larry Rivera.
You can find Larry's detailed research in his brilliant book, JFK Horseman, 2018.
David exposed X-ray alteration.
As board certified in radiation oncology, David was ideally prepared to examine the JFK autopsy X-rays in the National Archives.
Where?
Just before his entry.
He told me he thought he would find evidence of a second shot to the head, but also that the X-rays had been altered.
He found both.
Using a technique from physics known as optical densitometry, he discovered that a blowout at the back of the cranium had been covered with material too dense to be authentic.
I discovered that in frame 374 of the Abraham Zapruder film.
You can see the exposed brain the patch was used to conceal.
Notice resemblance of area P with exposed brain matter, often called brain matter.
The pink extension was a still-attached skull flap, three inches crescent shape.
This substantia had the bullet trajectory through the head that entered at the right temple.
At this point, therefore, we had confirmation of the four-hit scenario, but question remained as to whether or not a shot had also been fired from the curbside sewer opening, as many students had long since concluded.
In advance of Oliver Stone, JFK revisited, I summarize our state of knowledge of the assassination at the time, the Real Deal JFK Special, 18 November 2021.
Dedicated to Oliver Stone.
I knew that David believed there had been another shot to the head, the first to the back of the head, the second to the right town hall, but mistakenly inferred it had been from the grass opposite the knoll, where we have two different photographs of the same gunman standing beside the lone tree there holding his rifle.
It's only with the publication of David's new book that I understood his position, and lingering pieces of the puzzle fell into shape.
The longstanding dispute about the origin of the headshot from the above-grant sewer opening at the intersection of the TUP and the picket fence or the curb sewer opening would be resolved.
The curbside sewer shot.
Lawyer Rivera had taken photos of the above-ground sewer opening at the intersection of the TUP and the Bigot Pants, which aligned perfectly with the entry ruined in the right temple and the blowout on the back of the head.
I had identified this location as the one from which that shot was taken in my JFK Special of 18 November 2021.
At least in part, I had discounted the curbside sewer opening because years earlier, David and I had taken a close look, where David even climbed inside the sewer itself, and included that the directory was not right for the shot that entered the right temple.
Using a sophisticated 3D modeling technique in Dealey Plaza, Larry had ascertained the view of the limo as it approached the sewer opening, which impressed me greatly as to the prospect of a headshot having been fired from that location.
And indeed, it turns out that David resolved the differences between those who located a shot to the head from the above ground sewer location and from the curbside sewer opening because both were right.
JFK had been hit a third time in the head from the curbside sewer opening, virtually simultaneous with a shot of the right handball from the above-ground sewer opening.
So JFK had actually been hit five times.
First, in the back by a shallow shot, only penetrated about as far as the second knuckle on your little finger.
Second.
In the throat by a shot, it passed through the windshield en route to its target.
Third.
In the back of the head, after the limo is brought to an abrupt halt.
Fourth.
In the right temple, by the shot that blew his brains out the back of his head, fifth.
In the right side of the head, by the virtually simultaneous shot from the curbside sewer opening, where the combined floors led a triangular piece of skull known as the harbor fragment and debris galore.
The limo stop.
The occurrence of the limo stop was such a stunning proof of Secret Service complicity that it had to be removed.
Indeed, while the original 8mm already split film developed in Dallas was taken to the National Photographic Interpretation Center in Washington, D.C. on Saturday, the substitute, a 16mm unsplit film developed at the secret CI Photo Lab Hawkeye Works,
Adjacent to Kodak headquarters in Rochester, New York, was brought there on Sunday, and the substitution of films was effected.
David Lifton, best evident in 1980, had already sorted this out, but would be Douglas Horne, Inside the ARRB, Volume 4 of 5, 2009, whose work on this exchange is definitive, and John P. Costello, PhD, who proved the accident film to be a sophisticated fabrication.
David and I had both been struck when Newsweek, on 22 November 1993, published a diagram locating the limo about 30 feet further west than the X mark on Helm Street, officially designated as a place where he was taken out.
But that difference corresponds to the location of the curbside sewer and was improperly located for that reason.
Indeed, Yellow Point had been applied the night before and was still wet, which, it turns out, was used to define the precise location in which the driver, William Greer, should bring the limo to a halt in case the target was still alive.
These photos capture what would have been the view of the shooter inside the curbside sewer when the limo was brought to a halt.
And this accounts for the location of the eighth assassin who fired that day at JFK in an elaborate conspiracy to remove the 35th president of the United States and replace him with Lyndon Johnson.
Who my and others, including Phil Nelson and Roger Stone, have identified as the mastermind behind the assassination of JFK. David has thus finally completed the task of accounting for the medical evidence in the case of John Fitzgerald Kennedy, for which he richly deserves our gratitude.
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- Well, what exquisite timing, Jerry, 'cause I just went through the review of your book that I published 'cause I just went through the review of and I set it up for you to give us commentary, explanation, and analysis.
And I'm glad to make you host, which will enable you to do screen sharing.
So, consider it done, my friend.
Okay, thank you.
Your timing couldn't have been better.
It's been a very busy day for me today with all this going on in Ukraine.
Yes.
And I'm trying to get an article published here about it in American Thinker because I think there's some out-of-the-box thinking we need to do to get this problem solved.
But it's timely that we talk about the Kennedy assassination because one of the reasons I think Jack Kennedy was killed was he refused to go to war during the Cuban Missile Crisis.
And then, you know, the Joint Chiefs, especially Curtis LeMay, We're willing to risk nuclear war with Russia in 1962 because Curtis LeMay thought we had a first strike advantage and Kennedy was appalled by it.
As you know, we settled it by taking out by back channeling to Khrushchev and we took our missiles out of Turkey and Russia took their missiles out of Cuba.
Of course, we hid the fact that we took ours out of Cuba, out of Turkey and we didn't do it immediately.
But that was the deal.
And Kennedy wanted, in fact, did get a nuclear test ban treaty done with Khrushchev.
And that's opposed to what we're seeing today when it's clear to me that our military, again, is willing to risk nuclear war with Russia.
And the president's gone along with them.
Of course, I don't think Biden does anything except take orders.
And I think it's the military-industrial complex wanting the war be perpetuated.
They're very deathly afraid that Donald Trump will come in and end the war, end their money laundering scheme in Ukraine, etc.
But the point is, it's important to contrast where a Democratic president was in 1962 and where a Democratic president is today.
Jack Kennedy was determined to dismantle the CIA. I think he made the mistake of saying he was going to break up the CIA into a thousand pieces.
He said that at the time of the Bay of Pigs, which had occurred earlier, when the CIA had lied to him, and didn't do it immediately.
I think you should do these things and not talk about them.
Talk about them after you've done them, because you just put people on notice.
And I think, again, our Joint Chiefs are on notice that That Donald Trump will probably bring them into court-martial and maybe even charge them for treason for, in 2020, refusing to obey orders.
Milley, who was chairman of the Joint Chiefs, directly told Donald Trump that he would not put the military in the field if Donald Trump invoked the Insurrection Act to use the U.S. troops to stop the Antifa and the Black Lives Matters Violence that was destroying the country in 2020.
That's insubordination.
That's a court-martial offense.
And I think now you can even say that perhaps they were traitorous.
And so I think the deep state today is deeply afraid of Donald Trump coming into office, cannot afford to have him come into office, and is demonstrating that by trying to create a situation in which the war escalates and Donald Trump won't be able to end it.
And they want the war perpetuated in Ukraine, even if it's not winnable, without going to a nuclear war, which is insanity.
Now, what this brings us to is the proof, and it was a great honor and privilege to work with David Mantic, because David Mantic, as you know, Jim, you were publishing David Mantic's work way before anyone else,
going back to your books on the forensic examination of the Kennedy assassination, that you did several books on that, and included David Mantic's articles in at least two of your books, Murder in Dealey Plaza, and the other one was on the...
Science, Murder in Dealey Plaza?
Assassination Science, yes, and Murder in Dealey Plaza.
You probably see David Mantic's work in both of those.
All three.
All three.
That's right, in all three.
The third one as well.
Now, David Mantic, he's both a radiation oncologist and he has a PhD in physics.
So his PhD was about radiation science.
And so he's practiced medicine for over four decades.
And his specialty is reading x-rays for cancer patients.
And so he has seen the x-rays, the JFK skull x-rays, from the autopsy.
There's three of them in the archives more than anyone else, nine times.
And he took in a densitometer, which is a scientific instrument that measures the amount of light coming through an x-ray, millimeter by millimeter, And he's able to tell exactly what he's looking at.
Now, I'm going to pull up a couple of files here.
It'll take a second to get them into my computer.
And then I will begin sharing the screen and pointing out some things.
But I think what David Mantic has proven is that the government knew from the beginning that John Kennedy was shot twice from the front, And once from the back, and none of the shots came from the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository, the headshots.
None of them did.
And in fact, from everything that Lee Harvey Oswald said after he was arrested, only about an hour and a half after the assassination, is that he was a patsy, and that in fact he was not involved in shooting anyone that day.
He failed the paraffin test, as you know.
And he was killed on the Sunday after the Friday assassination, so he never faced trial.
And I think he was silenced.
As we look at this evidence from David Mantic, it's absolutely compelling that David Mantic has done the final analysis in that it's absolutely clear that the shots that killed Kennedy were a crossfire.
And the crossfire included shooting from the grassy knoll and also probably from the other side of the grassy knoll, the south side, where someone was positioned most likely in the railroad yard above the triple underpass.
So you had a triangulation of shooting that killed Jack Kennedy.
Now, I'm still trying here to find the file for a minute.
It'll take me a minute to get it.
And then I'm going to start displaying some of the things from the book on the screen.
But the other thing about...
This book took a year to write.
It was a very hard book to write because it was so complicated.
It had so many intricacies to it that we ended up, David and I, writing and rewriting this book many times.
And so, therefore, it was a...
And David and I both have studied the literature.
We also had the help of Douglas Horne.
Douglas Horne had done the five-volume study on the Assassinations Records Review Board, which he participated in in the 1990s, and was one of the...
I mean, these...
He knew more about the autopsy and the pre-autopsy surgery that was done on Jack Kennedy's head to erase again evidence of frontal shots.
Now, I want to show you a picture that shows you how detailed Dr.
Mantic's work was.
Let me find here, and I'll share it in just a minute.
I've got the manuscript here in front of me and I'm able to search it for different figures, etc.
that I want to show.
Okay, now here we go.
Just bear with me for a minute.
Okay.
I'm pulling it up now.
Okay, hold on.
Thank you.
Oh, here we go.
Okay, now let me share my screen.
Okay, here you can see, this is one of the, this is David Mantic's work from the archives.
And you can see this is JFK's skull from the x-ray in the autopsy.
The part to the left is the back of his head.
And then to the front, where you can see the dark space, is the front of Jack Kennedy's head.
And all these little notations in here, I'll try to zoom it up so you can see it even better.
You can see he's made optical density measurements at each point along here.
So he did thousands of measurements to know what he was looking at.
David Mantic was able to demonstrate that this white area here was exceptionally white.
It was far too white to be within the range of a normal x-ray.
In other words, it was a patch, a white patch, that was inserted at the back of JFK's head to mask evidence of a frontal shot.
And I think as you've detailed already, let me pull up some of the cover here.
I want to go to the cover, final cover.
If I can get the cover picture here.
Here we go.
Yes, here's the cover.
I'm going to stop sharing this and go here and share another part of my Okay, here we go.
And I think, Jim, you've talked about this.
Here's the cover of the book.
And if we center this and I zoom it up.
Okay, so the three shots that hit Jack Kennedy, the first one, first shot that hit him came through the windshield and it hit him in the throat.
Now, Jim, you and I differ a little bit about where these shots came from.
But again, the striking of Jack Kennedy's head, this yellow arrow, a shot hit him in the back of the head at frame 313, and it blew out part of his forehead up here, which was the, in frame 313, you can see a head flap, and you can see the blood and gore shooting out from Jack Kennedy's head going forward.
Within, at frame 320, I'm going to show you frame 320.
Very few people focus on it.
But a shot hit Kennedy right by his right ear in the temporal bone and it blew out the back of his head in a huge exit wound.
And that came from the grassy knoll.
And there's no doubt that that was a frontal shot because it also threw Jack Kennedy violently back into the left.
That's at frame 320.
In the process also, there was a shot to the forehead.
The shot to the forehead entered at the forehead in the front of his head by the hairline.
And you can see the bullet fragments are breaking up as it goes, that blue line.
Those are the bullet fragments breaking up.
And the largest fragment is at the back, which had the most weight.
And when a bullet breaks up within the skull, the largest fragments will travel toward the back.
Okay, so when you see these clear images in the x-rays, I'm going to show you now how the x-rays demonstrate all of this.
And again, we'll show a couple more pictures of David Mantic's work.
But the point is, this book is now almost a 500-page book.
I mean, that's the book.
It's a thick book.
And it is heavily, heavily illustrated all the way through everything we're talking about.
We inserted all of the images that explain what we're talking about so you can see them and go to them in the originals.
It's heavily footnoted.
So again, the book is meticulous in its detail.
I think you would agree on that, Jim.
Absolutely.
Yes, Jerry.
It's hard to read this book and not come away with the conclusion that it's absolutely convincing.
And again, I attribute...
My role in this was...
I was aware of David Mantic's work quite a while ago.
I interviewed him maybe five or six years ago for the first time.
And I was astounded by seeing, especially the shot...
To the forehead, where you could see the bullet stream, and it was clearly a frontal shot.
And I was astounded that the lying had gone on for as long as it had.
Now, to David Mantic's credit, he'd been publishing this, and Jim Fetzer, Jim's been publishing it in his books, so it's been known for 30 years.
But the problem is that David's writing is very scientific.
And so it's hard for the average person to read.
It's done in really a...
I would say almost...
First, it's...
Optical density measurements are done as logarithms.
Now, most people today don't even know what algorithms are.
They may have been taught it in school, but I'm not even sure school teaches it anymore.
I studied algorithms in high school.
But again, I had to explain things.
I said, David, let's write a book because one of my skills is taking very complex things and making them understandable.
And let's make this book understandable to the average reader.
So they don't have to have a degree in physics, PhD, to read the book.
And a lot of David's writings are challenging because of their complexity.
Now, I'm going to share again my screen.
I'm going to show you one of the x-rays.
Let me get it up here.
This is the left lateral x-ray.
It's coming through the right side of his head, the right lateral x-ray.
And it is, again, showing the back of the head, front of the head, over on the right.
And this highlights the bullet that came through the front of the head.
And you can see the fragments of it are all in yellow.
Okay, now I believe this was a, and David does too, probably a liquid mercury bullet.
Because in the pre-autopsy surgery, which we'll discuss in a minute, you couldn't remove these because the tissue itself was stained.
So they were stuck.
Boswell and Humes, who were the two doctors who did the autopsy, who did pre-autopsy surgery to alter these wounds, could not remove this.
But if you take a look, and there's also quite a lot of corroboration of this work.
Dr.
Michael Chesser Another MD independently studied these x-rays and showed the same conclusions Dr.
Manta came to.
Here's the frontal shot entering the front of the head.
At the beginning, there's little tiny fragments from the bullet.
The way the bullet breaks up with little tiny fragments.
And then as it goes to the back of the head, that's where it entered.
You can see the knob where it entered, the front of Jack Kennedy's skull.
And as it goes across the top, here's another Not colored version where you can see the fragments from the bullet trail that entered the forehead and that blue box and trailed across the top of Jack Kennedy's head.
That's just remarkably clear indications of frontal shooting.
Okay, that's why I consider this to be scientific evidence because these are things that are scientifically measurable.
I'm going to go to another figure.
Here, which talks about the keyhole fracture that hit the side of his head.
Can you see this, Jim?
This is the keyhole fracture.
Yes.
So a bullet that hits tangentially in the skull.
In other words, it's not going to go square through the skull as the shot in the ear does.
This was tangential.
So it hit by the ear and it exited the back of his head.
It didn't transit the whole skull.
It did, but at an angle, like a tangent to a circle, for those of you who remember geometry.
It enters in a circle and it blows out, and a keyhole fractures the bone ahead of where the bullet enters.
They call that a keyhole fracture because it looks like a keyhole.
Okay, now, the x-rays, these are enhanced x-rays of JFK's skull by the ear, and you can see there's the keyhole fracture right by the ear.
And it does form the keyhole structure.
So, again, there's very clear evidence that Jack Kennedy was hit twice from the front.
Okay, now, the back wound, the one that blew out the back of Jack Kennedy's head, is another one I want to concentrate on for a minute.
And I want to show you in the Zapruder film how you can track this And see with Clint Hill, who ran to the front of...
He got off the Secret Service car that was trailing Kennedy's limousine.
At the time of the shooting, he ran towards the JFK limousine, and he grabbed a hold of the back handrail, and he climbed onto the back of the hood, and he was splattered with Kennedy's blood and gore as it came from the side of Kennedy's head.
I'm going to again pull this up.
And I'm going to go to the part of the manuscript where this is covered.
This is figure 411 in the book.
Okay.
And...
I'm going to show you this and enlarge it here for a minute.
This is frame 390, the Zapruder film.
Kennedy's already been shot in the back of the head, and I'm going to enlarge this.
I'm going to do an extreme enlargement of it.
This frame is rarely shown, but you can see Kennedy's head literally explodes on the right side.
And that's where the massive impact of this tangential shot that hit him by the ear and exploded out the back of his head.
Now, as Jackie...
Okay, so there's, of course, a reaction.
This is frame 3.20.
It's within less than two seconds after the shot at 3.13 that created the head flap from the shot, the low angle, probably the Daltex building.
And I'm going to go a little bit less on the zoom and show you a couple more of the photographs.
So you see that Kennedy is thrown violently back, this frame 343, violently back into the left.
Here's Clint Hill.
You can see he's on the left and he's running to get the handrail.
Clint Hill is splattered with JFK's brain and tissue matter, as is the officer here in the inboard motorcycle on the left.
And in this frame, which is 346, if I enlarge it a bit more, you can even see the Kennedy's blood and gore.
You can see the red on the left of the trunk, which means that's a shot from the grass.
You know, he's thrown back to the left.
Jackie begins to come out of the car.
She's pushing Jack down.
And she's probably in a blackout, but she's reaching towards the left of the car.
And with her right hand, she's picking up a piece of Kennedy's brain that's on the trunk.
When she gets it, she starts going back into the car.
Clint Hill tries to help her, but she's got what she wants.
And she, at that point, begins to put it back into Jack Kennedy's head.
Now, this is some frames a little bit later on.
This frame's 458 after the limousine is going under the triple underpass down the road.
It's just a few seconds later.
Here's Jackie.
You can see her.
You can basically make out JFK's head.
Ray Kellerman is in the jump seat of the limousine in the front seat of the Secret Service.
This frame, 456.
If you look here, you can see Jack Kennedy's head.
His face and the critical part is you can see the blowout, the gaping wound, the black space at the back of his head.
J.F.K. Zapruder films were altered.
We're not going to discuss that in great detail here today.
We may mention it.
But this is one frame in which the back of the head blowout was not masked.
And the other part of it is that Jackie had Jack Kennedy sitting upright.
Put this stuff back in his head, put his head back together, and sat him up as if he could fix it all, and he was alive.
Well, he was completely dead at this point, and she quickly gave this exercise up.
But Jackie's in a blackout here.
People sometimes break a bone, think the first thing you do is just put it back together.
You break a wrist, just put it back together.
Well, you can't do that.
But it is a psychological...
Impulse when you are in this kind of a trauma.
Again, Mary Moorman's photograph shows Kennedy being shot, and the shooter is up on the grassy knoll, possibly here in the location by the bend, maybe a little farther up.
But the point is that it's clear that Jack Kennedy was hit three times in the head, and two of the times were from the front.
Now, again, there can be debate about where the shot's coming from.
And I know Jim puts one of the headshots from the sewer in front of Jack Kennedy.
I'm not convinced of that.
But these are, in a sense, details that we can argue about.
What is scientific evidence?
Just let me make a point, Jim.
The scientific evidence is that the x-rays show two shots from the front, regardless of where they came from.
Go ahead, Jim.
Plus, of course, the shot to the throat, which was also from the front.
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Well, it's my great pleasure to feature Jerome Jerry Corsi here today, who co-authored the book with David Mantic on the final analysis about the headshots.
Jack was hit a total of five times.
He was hit in the back.
I shot five and a half inches below the collar just to the right of the spinal column.
He was shot in the throat by a shot that passed through the windshield.
But he was still alive.
And the driver, William, grabbed the limousine to the left and to a halt to make sure he would be killed.
During that halt, he was hit in the back of the head.
He slumped forward.
Jack eased him back up, and he was hit in the right temple.
Bullet that distributed a series of mercury particles to the brain and then near simultaneous from the side of the head by the ear with a bullet whose impact was massive blew the brains out the back of his head and he slumped to the side dead.
Jerry, you're doing a wonderful job.
I love having you here.
Please do continue.
The problem that was here for the conspirators Was that the body, Jack Kennedy's body, showed shots from the front.
I mean, the doctors at Parkland Hospital, when Kennedy was brought in, they had no doubt that these were frontal wounds.
They even gave a press conference and said these were frontal wounds to kill Jack Kennedy.
Because what they saw was they saw a puncture wound to the throat.
And they saw the back of the head blown out, an exit wound.
They didn't know whether the throat wound had caused the blowout of the back of the head, but they knew they saw evidence of frontal shooting.
They didn't see any evidence of shots from the rear.
Okay, and so they went and gave a press conference, and in fact, the press secretary traveling, a gentleman named Kidoff, He gave a press conference at Parkland Hospital.
He said, Jack Kennedy, what killed him?
He said it was a shot to the head, and he pointed to his forehead as to where the shot went.
There was a shot at that forehead.
Okay, and so if you read the testimony of the doctors, I'll just read one of the testimonies.
This is Dr.
Crenshaw, and the doctors, by the way, were bullied into changing their testimony.
And threatened.
Over time, they told the truth.
And so Crenshaw said, this is a doctor in the trauma room one with Kennedy just brought in.
They're trying to treat him.
And they're trying to decide if they can save his life or not.
First thing they do is a tracheotomy to try to get him breathing.
But they're all furiously working to see if this is salvageable.
So I walked to the president's head to get a closer look.
His entire right cerebral hemage, the whole right part of his head, appeared to be gone.
It looked like a crater, an empty crater.
All I could see was mangled, bloody tissue.
The damage I saw, there was no doubt in my mind that the bullet had entered his head through the front.
And as it surgically passed through his cranium, the missile obliterated part of the temporal and all of the parietal.
That's the upper part towards the back.
And then the occipital, which is the very back, lobes before it lacerated the cerebellum, which is an organ at the very, very back of the head.
It's a different color.
It's easily recognizable by medical doctors.
The wound represented a deep furrow in a freshly plowed field.
Several years later, when I viewed slow motion films of the bullet striking the president, the physics of the head being thrown back provided final and complete confirmation of a frontal entry by the bullet to the cranium.
But the problem the government had, and of course the government was destroying evidence from the beginning.
As soon as the limousine got to Parkland Hospital, Secret Service can be seen in videos with pails of water trying to erase the blood and gore from the back seat of the limousine.
That's destroying a crime scene.
The people were seeing that the windshield had been shot through from the front because when a bullet hits safety glass in a windshield, again, it makes a puncture mark going in, and the back of the glass is shattered towards the direction the bullet's going.
In fact, Jack Kennedy's face was splintered by all these pieces of glass such that the mortician had a hard time stopping the bleeding coming from all these small cuts in his face from the shot through the windshield.
Now, the government had a problem because the doctors at Parkland had told the world that the shooting came from the back.
Lee Harvey Oswald was picked up about an hour and a half after the shooting, and he was blamed with the shooting.
But, you know, a photographer from the AP named Elkins had been standing in front of the limousine.
At the time, Jack Kennedy was shot in the throat.
Jack Kennedy's arms are going up towards his throat.
And you can see in the background is the Texas School Book Depository.
So if the shooting was supposed to have come by Lee Harvey Oswald from the Texas School Book Depository, and Lee Harvey Oswald was the lone gun assassin, which was the government's story, then all the shots had to come from behind.
So the government had a problem in a body where the shots came from the front, and a lying cover story framing the Patsy where he was supposed to be shooting from the rear.
So what the government did is when they got Kennedy's body to the airplane at Love Field, the ceremonial casket, to go back to Washington.
And by the way, they took that casket out of, Secret Service took that casket out of Parkland Hospital at gunpoint.
Because the assassination was a local murderer, and the coroner, Dr.
Rose, insisted that the autopsy was going to be done in Parkland.
The Secret Service pulled their guns and said, we're taking this body with us back to Washington.
They knew he had been shot from the front.
Again, Clint Hill had been splattered with Jack Kennedy's blood and gore.
And so when they get the casket on the airplane, put it in the back of the airplane, remove seats to get it situated there, and Lyndon Johnson's coming in to be sworn in.
It takes a little while for the judge to get there.
In the interval where everybody goes up front to witness the swearing in, Jack Kennedy's body is taken out of the ceremonial casket and stowed in one of the storage compartments of Air Force One.
Air Force One lands at Parkland Hospital.
At about 6 o'clock in the evening.
And there's a big to-do.
Bobby Kennedy arrives.
He gets into the back of the airplane.
They bring this loading cargo apparatus up to the front of the airplane.
Bobby and Jackie get into it.
They are going to offload the casket from the airplane.
They bring it down.
There's a navy gray ambulance there to which they put the casket.
And Bobby and Jackie get into the casket.
The driver and the shotgun rider and the Navy ambulance are the same two Secret Service that were driving the limousine in Dallas.
They're going to drive Jack Kennedy's body to Bethesda Hospital to do the autopsy.
Lyndon Johnson comes out and he does a very quick speech.
Lyndon Johnson is taken away and all the lights go off on Andrews Air Force Base.
At that time, they get Jack Kennedy's body out of the Storage compartment, there's a helicopter waiting.
They helicopter the body to the Bethesda Naval Hospital, beating the ambulance to get there.
They arrive at 6.30 at the back, the autopsy entrance of Bethesda Naval Hospital, and they offload in another ambulance.
Jack Kennedy's body in a shipping casket.
I might just intervene ever so briefly.
They appeared to helicopter the body, which was in a body bag, to Walter Reed, where the best forensic pathologists in the military were removing bone fragments and some bullet fragments.
And then they put it in the shipping casket, pinkish...
Gray shipping casket in a black hearse and took it to the back of the Bethesda hospital where it was offloaded while the gray ambulance was still making its way.
Please continue.
Well, we have it arriving at the Bethesda morgue at 630.
And the testimony of that is pretty clear.
You have an excerpt from, this is Paul O'Connor, who was one of the corpsmen who was there and was there to get the shipping casket and the body in a body bag.
And Paul O'Connor, his testimony was the back of the morgue opened up and a crew of hospital corpsmen and a higher ranking corpsman, Dennis David, brought in a plain pinkish gray, what I call a shipping casket.
It was not ornate.
It was not damaged.
It was just a pinkish gray casket.
They brought it up into the morgue and set it.
We had two tables in the morgue, autopsy tables.
They were back to front.
They weren't side by side.
They were back to back.
They brought it up front where we were.
At that time, we opened the coffin and inside was a body bag.
And William Matson Law, who was doing the interviewing, said, are you absolutely sure it was a body bag?
And O'Connor said, absolutely sure there was a body bag.
We unzipped it quickly.
Inside was a nude body with a bloody sheet wrapped around the head of the body.
We lifted the body onto the table.
Well, that's not how Jack Kennedy's body left Parkland.
It left it wrapped in, the whole body wrapped in sheets, not naked.
And it, and it, um, It, secondly, was in the ceremonial casket, not in the shipping casket.
Now, what's going to go on here is that at Bethesda Naval Hospital, Boswell and Humes and Boswell, Humes was the lead autopsy doctor, pathologist at Bethesda Naval Hospital, and he was assisted by Dr.
Hume.
They began...
Pre-autopsy surgery, which was documented by two Secret Service agents, Siebert and O'Neill, and it was first recognized by David Lifton in his book, Best Evidence.
David was the first really to talk about this because in their 302 report, Siebert and O'Neill say that when the autopsy started later at 8 o'clock, Jack Kennedy's body was brought into the autopsy room with the audience there.
The doctor said that there had been pre-autopsy surgery.
David, Jerry, if I might just interrupt ever so briefly.
Humes actually took a granule saw to the back of JFK's head to enlarge the wound to make it look more like something that could have been the effect of a shot fired from above and behind if he were leaning way over.
But he did it in front of Thomas Evan Robinson, who had conducted the preparation of the body for the funeral, and a radiologist.
He did it in front of them.
So what you're talking about is Siebert and O'Neill reporting Humes observing what he himself had done, namely that there were to have been surgery to the head.
Please continue.
That's right.
There's actually three different times the caskets enter the hospital.
It's really kind of like a French farce.
I mean, so at 7.17 p.m., the bronze casket arrives in the Navy hearse from the They drove Jackie and Robert Kennedy to Bethesda.
They finally get there.
They pull up to the front of Bethesda Hospital, and Jackie and Bobby Kennedy go inside up to a VIP room.
The two, Kellerman and Greer, driving the Navy gray ambulance from Andros Air Force Base to Bethesda, didn't know where the morgue was.
The two FBI agents show up in a car, Frank O'Neill and Jim Siebert.
They say, well, we know where the morgue is.
Follow us.
And they drive around to the back.
They unload the bronze casket.
They put it into the ante room of the morgue, but the Navy Corpsmen do not allow them to enter the morgue.
Because in the morgue, that's where Humes and Boswell are doing this pre-autopsy surgery.
And they do take a surgical saw, and they remove the entire parietal bone.
I'm going to show you some pictures of that in a minute.
And they do massive rearranging.
They mess with Jack Kennedy's head to alter the wounds.
I'm going to show you some pictures of that in a second.
And then finally...
At 8 o'clock, and there's another whole story here where the Honor Guard that was at Andrews Air Force Base went off in a car to get to Bethesda Naval Hospital, and one of the admirals from the morgue at Bethesda got into another Navy ambulance and drove them a wild goose chase around Washington so they didn't arrive at the morgue until Jack Kennedy's body was put back into the ceremonial casket.
At 8 o'clock, the ceremonial Our casket team brings the bronze casket into the room of the morgue where the audience is waiting for the autopsy, and at 8 o'clock, that's when they take the body out of the casket, and the audience gasps, and Dr.
Hume says that there was pre-autopsy surgery, and Siebert and O'Neill record that in their 302 report.
Now, I want to show you a couple pictures of the Surgery that they did of Jack Kennedy's head.
I'm first going to go to this figure, figure 6.4.
So let me get it up and show it to you.
Now, there were actually some photographs released later, many years later, that showed Jack Kennedy in the morgue after Boswell and Humes got done messing with his head.
And they're really quite graphic, so I kind of apologize for people who are queasy looking at these because, again, they're hard to look at, but they're very important to see.
So just give me a second.
I'll pull one up here.
I'm looking for it now, the one I want.
Let me add a couple words here, Jerry, while you're looking for the photographs you want.
I spoke with Paul O'Connor.
I spoke with Jim Jenkins.
I spoke with Dennis David.
And most importantly, with Gerald Custer, who was a radiation technician who actually took the x-rays.
And Gerald explained to me how he was heading upstairs with x-rays that, of course, had been Taken, but not yet developed in the company's Secret Service agent, when you notice this huge entourage arriving with a gray ambulance with Jackie, and I thought it was McNamara, but it may have been Bobby coming up the door.
I thought, what in the world is going on here?
Because Jack's body was already in the morgue undergoing an autopsy.
So that's just further confirmation of what you're laying out here.
That's correct.
The first who put all this together in his brilliant book, Best Evidence, which I consider to be the single most important book ever published on the assassination of JFK. Continue.
This is one of the pictures in the post-autopsy surgery.
Jack Kennedy's head is on a brace here.
You can see the arm of the brace.
I'm going to share the screen so you can see this.
And here you go.
This is the picture.
You can see the brace beneath his head.
That kind of closed up the wound in the back of his head.
But you can see there's kind of like a wingnut here for obscuring the shot that hit the forehead.
All the brains are messed with.
I mean, this cleared another picture of the autopsy, this one here.
You can see how badly...
There was no description at Parkland Hospital that described anything like this.
This is after the doctors got finished messing with Jack Kennedy's head to obscure frontal shots.
Jerry, with all due respect, these are Grodin photographs, he claimed, but I am convinced, and others too, that they're fake.
Grodin was doing a lot of...
Messing around to mislead research on the death of JFK. And I even believe the body you're seeing here is not actually JFK, but a person identified to Dennis David as the major who was brought in in a casket.
He wasn't allowed to log in.
So there are several of these autopsy photographs that I believe are staged using the major.
But I don't mean to divert from your assessment.
Go right ahead, my friend.
Well, I mean, I think you illustrate, you know, that there is still a lot of disagreement about various aspects of the assassination.
And by the way, Jim Jenkins, Paul O'Connor, Dennis David, all confirmed there was no aluminum stirrup there with a head in the autopsy room.
That was body taken somewhere else.
And we believe there was another building on the Naval Hospital grounds where I think they did surgery on animals that may have been used to take these photographs, which I reiterate.
Yeah, I know.
What Chuck Crenshaw said about his photographs, He had closed the eyes at JFK when he assisted in wrapping him in sheets and putting him in the bronze ceremonial casket at Parkland.
And yet here, JFK's eyes are still open.
So there's funny business out there.
Go right ahead.
Well, again, there's disagreement on various of these aspects.
The thing that distinguishes our book is the x-rays that Dr.
Mantic did are forensic evidence.
So that's hard proof.
Now, on this picture, I think you can see along here the saw lines.
The parietal bone was at the top of the head, and there was nothing at Parkland Hospital that indicated there was any injury to this part of the head.
Just like there was nothing seen at Parkland Hospital, like this wingnut formulation up here at the front of the head.
And, again, Jim and I disagree about the nature of these pictures.
I happen to think it is Jack Kennedy, and I think the pictures are the post-operative surgery.
And I think David Mantic and Doug Horn and I kind of agreed on that when we wrote the book.
It doesn't mean we're necessarily right on this, because, again, there are many aspects of the assassination that will probably be debated forever.
But the point is, the post-operative surgery was done, and Jim and I completely agree on that.
There are some in the Kennedy community who still find it hard to believe that post-operative surgery was done.
But again...
The description, when you look at the nature of how the autopsy was written, because Humes ended up writing about five versions of the autopsy and kept throwing them away because the evidence didn't really fit the government's description of how they wanted the crime described.
The problem was that Only at the setup, in the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository, where they planted a Manneker Carcano rifle and left three shells on the floor by this so-called sniper's window in the corner of the sixth floor, they were now stuck with three shots.
And the time of the shooting...
With a bold action Mandlick or Carcano, you would have had to have been a super marksman to be able to get out three accurate shots in that time.
But the point is that one of the shots was known to miss because it hit one of the bystanders who was standing on the other side of the grassy knoll by the triple underpass.
And he got hit in the cheek by one of the shots that missed It hit the curb and ricocheted off and hit him on the cheek.
His name was James Tagg.
And by the time the airplane was flying back to Washington with the body, it was known that James Tague had been hit, so only at most two shots could have hit Jack Kennedy.
And the Kennedy, the Warren Commission, our inspector, who was the chief counsel who was constructed this magic bullet theory, wanted to say that one of the bullets hit Jack Kennedy in the back, And came through his throat and then did a big pivot and hit John Connolly in the left wrist and then went through John Connolly's ribs and ended up in John Connolly's left knee.
And so therefore the magic bullet theory was the second bullet that hit.
So we had basically a, you know, a shot to the head and a shot that came through the throat.
And the magic bullet, this one magic shot, John Connolly always insisted he was hit by a separate shot from the shots that hit Jack Kennedy.
But again, the Warren Commission discounted that testimony.
And they were stuck with having to invent the magic bullet theory because the evidence that had been planted to frame Lee Harvey Oswald only gave them three shots to work with.
When I think Jim would agree with me that with multiple shooters, there were probably many shots fired by multiple shooters.
I have 10 or 12 all together, Jerry.
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, it's...
And, you know, shooting and team shooting, where it was timed, you know, one shot, then one 100, two 100, three 100, everybody shoot.
It would be hard and deeply positive to distinguish whether you're hearing one shot or five shots, because they would all reverberate together at approximately the same interval.
But what was clear from the x-rays, shot from the back of the head at 3.13 was quickly followed within two seconds by the shot to the side of the head that blew out the back of the head.
And in that interval, the shot to the forehead also occurred.
So Jack Kennedy was hit three times in the head in very quick sequence.
And there were shots that missed.
And again, the flurry of shooting that occurred and where the multiple gunmen may have been, again, these are things that are going to be debated for a long time, as well as the identity of the multiple shooters, etc.
But the x-rays are a bedrock piece of evidence, and that especially with the shot that hit the forehead, and you can see so clearly that stream of lead across the top of the head, it's unmistakably a frontal shot.
Absolutely, Jerry.
Yeah, no, I think David did a great job here at clarifying that there were actually three shots to the head rather than two.
Yes.
Before he went into the National Archives for the first time in 1992, he told me he thought he would discover evidence of a second shot to the head.
That evidence that the x-rays had been altered, and I said that was great, because we had what we were looking for, namely evidence of government fabrication of the autopsy either way, and of course he found both.
And I think you've done a wonderful service to the public, Jerry, by collaborating with David and bringing about a It's a relatively easily readable version of the book, and I think it's been extremely successful.
I mean, look, selling 4,000 copies in a couple of days, I mean, as you observe, that reflects the public's thirst for knowledge about what happened to JFK, whom I must say was our most admired and adored president.
Until perhaps today, I think Donald Trump has really won the affection of a tremendous segment of the community.
But it's in a much more controversial fashion.
Jerry, I can't thank you enough, including your comments about these developments with the military.
Extremely good stuff, my friend.
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