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June 10, 2024 - Jim Fetzer
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The Raw Deal (10 June 2024) with Keith Rodgers and special guest Ash Robertson
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I need somebody.
Not just anybody.
You know, I need someone.
Alex Jones is so much younger than today.
I never need anybody's help in any way.
But now these days have gone and I'm not so self-assured.
But I'll find a change of mind.
I'm open up the door.
- This is Jim Petzor, your host on The Raw Deal.
This, what do we have, the 10th day of June 2024?
We're on the show, and we're on the show.
I'm joined by Keith Rogers, my regular Monday co-host out of Montana, and our featured guest today is Ash Robertson, who trades in futures, including cryptocurrency and Bitcoin.
He's a man of many hats, many talents, and like Keith, One of the smartest guys I know, and because he deals with futures, I thought he'd be a wonderful contributor to help us sort out where the hell we are and where the hell we're going.
Ash, welcome to the show.
Thanks, Jim.
I appreciate it.
Ash, I think you're really good, very talented, and you recently sent me a A list of about a dozen problems facing the world today, especially United States, and I wanted to build on that.
Where are we, Ash, and where the hell are we going?
I think it's all bad.
It doesn't look good.
I think that the BRICS group is going to be meeting in November and firming up their commodity-based Currency.
And what Biden did when he seized almost a third of a trillion dollars in Russian assets, it gave a message to the other countries of the world.
If we don't like what you're doing, we'll steal all your money.
So Silently and slowly, countries around the world have been liquidating treasuries, United States treasuries, and the Fed has gone in hyper mode to buy those treasuries.
So, China already has a commodities exchange that deals in Settle up in gold by the end of the day.
So, you can't manipulate their markets like here.
Like Chase, they can infinitely short gold and hold the price down and just wipe out all the longs and keep prices down.
In China, it's a little bit harder to do.
So, China and Russia have both been silently accumulating gold for years.
And right now, Comex in New York doesn't have any gold that used to be the vault for settling.
And Chase Bank was the last entity to take all their metals out of there.
So we're dealing purely on a paper basis.
And when the BRICS nations, and they all keep getting more and more nations joining, they're going to be competing as the world reserve currency for the dollar.
So Biden basically, by stealing, you know, $350 trillion from Russia, was the dumbest mistake they could ever make.
And it just forced Russia when they basically lit the printing press on fire and forced Russia to Do something else so they could trade in the international markets.
And that's what they've done.
And there's no stopping them.
There's nothing we can do about it.
And most of our currency that we have is all overseas.
And so when that currency comes flooding back to the United States, which it already is, you're going to see inflation exponentially keep increasing and less and less countries will want to buy it.
And in the meantime, more and more trillions of dollars are going to be repatriated back to the country, and I have no idea what's going to happen after that, but...
Well, actually, of course, you meant $350 billion rather than trillion seized in Russia, but that was indeed an abuse of the currency system involving the International Monetary Fund, the World Bank.
It essentially vitiated any confidence a country could have because politically you were not aligned with the United States.
You risked having your assets seized thereby, even Turkey.
Ash, as I'm sure you're aware, has now joined BRICS, Turkey, of course, being a NATO member, but a rather independent-minded NATO member.
I won't be surprised if other NATO members join.
In fact, I predict a dissolution of NATO out of its incapacity to deal with Russia.
They thought it would be a piece of cake.
Get this, I have a report here from Jen Stolenberg claiming NATO underestimated Russia.
The level of Russia's weapons and ammunition production since the start of the conflict with Ukraine has surpassed NATO's expectations, the Secretary General of the U.S.-led military bloc has acknowledged.
Speaking to Sky News Monday, Jen Stoltenberg was asked to comment on a study released last month by the consulting firm Bain & Company, revealing that Moscow is generating artillery shells at more than three times the rate of all NATO members combined.
It's correct.
Russia has been able to build up their defense industry faster than we expected, and it's correct that NATO allies have spent more time than they should in rambling up our production, Stoltenberg replied.
The reason for Western nations lagging behind is that after the Cold War, we actually built down our defense industry.
However, The situation is now improving, with all the NATO allies increasing the capacity to produce ammunition and weapons.
There were delays and gaps in deliveries to Kyiv in recent months, but this is really changing, and the flow of ammo into Ukraine has increased over the last week.
Russia's advances in Kharkov in recent weeks demonstrate the need for us to step up our support for Kyiv.
This support will continue, even if former President Trump wins the election in November, because it's in the interest of both Europe and the U.S., Stoltenberg insisted.
Trump has for months expressed skepticism on donating arms to Ukraine, arguing the U.S.
should stop giving foreign aid unless it's structured as a loan, insisting the bulk of the support should come from Europe.
A Russian victory over Ukraine will make the world more dangerous and us more vulnerable, Stoltenberg warned.
A paper by Maine and Company said Russian factories are projected to make or refurbish approximately 4.5 million artillery rounds this year.
Compared to the West's combined output of 1.3 million pounds, the figures given by the firm suggest the average production of a 152mm shell for Moscow stands at $1,000, while the price of 155 rounds used by NATO is up to $4,000.
In late May, Russian President Putin said domestic ammunition output had increased by a factor of 14, drone manufacturing a fourfold surge, the assembly of tanks and armed vehicles risen by a factor of 3.5 since the outbreak of the Ukraine conflict.
I gotta say, Ash, I think that's all accurate.
It all indicates, in fact, that NATO has already lost the war.
I don't see a point in continuing.
The points he's making are too little too late.
Your thoughts?
Yeah, absolutely.
I mean, it's just beyond even what those initial things look like on the ammunition.
You've also got the fact of The defense contractors have been ripping off the United States government for the last 20 years.
It used to be when you would have a product, you'd go to the government and say, hey, we've got this product, you want to buy it?
And the government would say, yeah, we'll take it.
And now it's kind of come to a point where, yeah, we got this tank we're going to build and you want to give us an advance.
And so what they do is for the These planes and tanks and ships, all of these things that they've been doing, they've just been collecting money up front for decades sometimes, and then actually the product isn't feasible or doesn't work, and they scratch the whole thing.
In the meantime, Russia has been spending all of their time, energy, and money on research and development into munitions.
Now they have the hypersonic missile, which basically means by the time you see it on your radar, your ship is dead.
And we aren't even close to even competing.
And we're a decade out, they say, of us getting hypersonic weapons.
They're trying to downplay it like, oh, they're not that important.
But really, they've spent time on that.
And Russia is known for the number one missile defense system in the world.
And the second, distant second, is Israel's Iron Dome and, you know, the US Patriot.
And both of those are 30-year-old technologies.
And the sad part about it is Putin asked to be invited into NATO years ago.
And, of course, that would wreck the entire military-industrial complex scam, you know.
They They bribe politicians and they give them all this funding and buy a bunch of crap and then in return they kick back to their campaign funds and it's just been going on like that for the last 20 years.
So Russia has really been able to increase their technology and they keep saying that Russia, you know, he wants to take over Europe and
All of these crazy things that just aren't true, you know, he just wants to be at peace and wants to live, you know, originally like the West, you know, but we've lied to them so many times and going back on our word and he's just had it and, you know, they try to talk about regime change and believe me, Putin is battling it out with his inner guys because
They want to really show what they can do and he is the most moderate one out there.
You get rid of Putin and you're going to have some hardliners come in there and we're going to have real bad news real fast.
No, I couldn't agree more.
I think you're spot on and All the signs are bad.
I mean, Russia's prepared to fight a war it doesn't want to fight.
The West is eager to fight a war it's not prepared to fight.
It's going to be lopsided.
Now, when you mentioned the Iron Dome, Iran demonstrated its weaknesses by launching quite a brilliant attack with a whole lot of drones.
The U.S.
and Israel spent about a billion bucks defeating the drones when the real targets were the two airfields from which the attacks on the The Iranian consulate in Damascus had been launched, and they fired seven hypersonic missiles, every one of which succeeded in hitting the target, including a command and control center that took out 40 or more IDF Mossad officers who had been directing the operation.
I mean, that was so telling, Ash.
That Iran actually has control of the situation because of its hypersonic missiles, which may or may not have been provided by Russia, where Iran has provided Russia with these very sophisticated and cheap drones.
I mean, this costs a billion bucks by the West, but maybe a million for Iran.
That's quite a return on your investment.
Absolutely.
You know, what's really, this is one of the most powerful things that is going on right now.
This is what's so significant historically, you're going to find out.
You know, they made the biggest mistake ever when Israel decided to be cute and blow up their embassy in Lebanon and killed a couple of their generals.
And Iran was going to have to do something and a brilliant strategy.
What they did was they called up, you know, the United States, they called up other, I forget which of the other countries, Egypt and this and that.
Iran not only told them when the attack was going to happen, on what day, to get all your civilians out of there because this is the way it's going to go down.
So, as prepared as the U.S., Britain, and Israel were, Iran sent 300 drones at $25,000 to $50,000 each, all at the same time.
And, of course, the United States and Britain probably spent, you know, between a billion or two billion each.
And Israel spent $1.2 billion to knock all this junk out of the sky.
And the seven that didn't identified the radars where their iron dome is, and they took those out.
And that was the most devastating thing.
And you could just, you know, you couldn't tell by watching on TV, but you could just know that that was bone curdling.
So Israel had to save a little face.
So they flew over like one drone and then It was something and then it was shot down by Iran or something like that.
And then Iran didn't even mention it.
I mean, you're talking about good diplomatic players here with Putin.
Iran didn't mention it and quelled it.
That's the way it should work out.
But now, Israel, they can't afford a billion dollars every time You know, Iran sends out a bunch of 20,000 drones and now they know where two of their defense radars were and imagine 50 more attacks like that all going on at the same time.
Israel has no chance.
There's six million people in a tiny little space and they're done.
It's like now it's a matter of saving face and how to survive The state of Israel is going to have a very difficult time surviving without a nuclear war or some kind of diplomatic or total re-imaging of their policies.
I don't know how they're going to do it, but it's going to be interesting to see how they try.
I don't think they can survive even with a nuclear war.
Keith, give us your thoughts about all of the above, my friend.
Well, let's go back to what has transpired over the decades.
When we look at battlefields or battlefield conditions, which I don't endorse at all, we had America's most treasured ally who was giving U.S.
technology of missile technology to China.
We have Jonathan Pollard with the radio frequencies and or nuclear information.
That Israel has been selling the United States out for the longest time.
We also have the Iron Dome, as mentioned, that the United States funded a billion dollars for and then turned around and was buying the missiles from Israel.
You'd think that they would have been carte blanche, that they would have been given to America for funding that entire program.
But we have the MQ-9 Reapers and stuff that Iran has shot down.
What we see is America's so-called alleged enemies.
That are gaining more and more U.S.
technology from the battlefield, just like the Seas Bradleys.
Another two Abrams were caught or destroyed last night.
And as Ash had mentioned, you think back to the Pentagon Wars, the movie, what they were doing with the Bradley, this supposed great, great Bradley like that.
Well, we see how great the Bradley was.
It was A massive amount of loss of taxpayer funds that just kept escalating and escalating as they were trying to build this fortified Bradley tank, which may have performed, as Douglas MacGregor would say, great in the Iraqi theater, but not over in the Ukraine area where it's mud.
You know, it's not sand.
You mean armored personnel carrier Bradley?
So when you take out a Bradley, you're actually wiping out, you know, 13 or more us troops when you do it, or whoever's occupying the vehicle, continue, continue.
Yeah.
Well, it's the same.
Uh, and then of course, I don't know if you, if you're familiar with vehicles, but if you ever want a wiring harness, like I had to replace a entire, uh, ignition system or whatever, you got to realize that these tanks, when they're recovered and you see them recovering these on the battlefield, What they're basically doing is they're scooping out the remains of those soldiers who were on the insides with spoons, probably, and then bringing them back.
And then they put new harnesses in those to, you know, replace what was burned up like that.
And then they put the tank back out in battle again.
But there's a new thing here on the telegram a few minutes ago here that China has learned so much from what U.S.
tanks have done over there in Ukraine.
So again, this failure of the technology that was put into use.
And I guess the problem there is because the U.S.
was sending all of their old The Germans were sending all their old stuff like that, you know, but all that old technology has been built up over the years like that to sit there and capitalize on where to put the armaments, all this stuff.
Uh, and that's why these, uh, little, uh, grenade dropping grenades with drones.
So it wasn't the front of the tank or the rear of the tank, uh, that was most important.
It was the top of the tank by dropping a simple grenade onto the top of the tank on the turret there.
Uh, you could blow the entire insides up like that and you just watch those things burn, you know?
Uh, and I feel sorry for all the suckers like that, that are lured into these things thinking that this is some great, uh, uh, it's kind of like a destroyer versus an aircraft carrier thinking that they've got some fortification inside of a tank that sure it might stop bullets and stuff, but look at what Hamas is doing over there in Israel with those tanks.
Uh, a simple charge placed on the side of that walked up and put on the side of a tank there and it blows the entire tank up.
Of course, these are properly placed.
They know exactly where to put them.
Uh, you always study the so-called enemy.
And so when doing that, you study the enemy's, uh, uh, armaments too.
And, uh, even Ray McGovern had just commented there with the judge this morning.
The fact that when Mr. Putin over there in Russia gave North Korea one of its biggest ICBMs, it shows that the U.S.
is mucking around, pushing things to this.
It might be an ultimatum of war.
Now we have the Soviet style nuclear powered submarine down there in Cuba, along with that armada of ships and stuff.
Which is just showing the United States how it feels to have missiles and stuff in Poland or in Ukraine or whatever like that, you know, that Russia today is doing the exact same thing, which was repeated years ago when the U.S.
broke every single treaty there was, whether it be the IBM missile treaties, all this stuff.
So the U.S.
is finally getting a taste of its own medicine.
And as Asher correctly pointed out here, This is based on basically the entire financial system of the United States.
It's hegemony.
It's dollar supremacy.
It's all going to come to close.
And with that, the only thing I could think of, Jim, on this is it's like a repeat of history.
When Germany got rid of its dollar dependency, Time Magazine came out with Hitler's Man of the Year.
They called it the German miracle.
It's a repeat.
Russia's doing the same thing.
It's getting rid of the U.S.
hegemony.
And what you can see is that Russia is excelling because it's no longer tied to the dollar.
And all these countries like Ash mentioned there with BRICS, they're starting to see like when Marco Rubio was talking about Venezuela and he says, well, that means we can't sanction them anymore.
Well, when you sanction a country, you cause starvation of millions of people just to prove a political point.
Or when you tell people that they can't buy this or that unless they You know, the IMF loan comes with these conditional strings, which means that you have to buy U.S.
GMO grains and all that stuff.
You know, people are getting tired of this.
It is.
It's a mafia.
That's exactly what it is.
It's a mafia that controls every single asset of the future.
And every time that you do a transaction, the mafia in D.C.
gets a cut out of every transaction.
Yeah, yeah, I think that's all right.
And of course, the tanks are useless on the battlefield.
They consume so much gasoline, they can only be out there a couple hours and they require maintenance.
I mean, ashes is one of the worst designs of all time, but it's just those Wrapped, corrupt military industrial suppliers making huge profits and really assuming they're never going to actually have to enter into combat so they can put out as inferior a product as they want, pocket the difference, and who gives a damn?
Because it's all going to come down to the U.S.
nuclear arsenal.
Colossal blunder.
Your further thoughts, Ash?
Well, I think we do have a saving grace, Jim.
They are coming out with a new electric tank and can go even less farther distance in a shorter period of time, but it's going to be green.
You know, we won't have that pesky diesel fuel polluting the battlefield.
We could just have it sitting there on the battlefield, you know, with all those charging stations there for hours!
This is so ridiculous, Ash!
You got the lunatics running the asylum without any doubt!
Is that like Bill Gates trying to dim the sun and then Then want everyone to go solar so you have no son to go solar with?
Equally absurd, equally absurd.
I want to turn to what's going on in Israel because, I mean, Biden at least appeared to want to pause any weapons there.
Without those weapons, they cannot continue the slaughter of the Palestinians.
This is one of the most grotesque Acts of our lifetime taking place, being covered 24-7—South Front, War News 24-7, Sputnik, Al Jazeera, Middle East Eye—they're covering it nonstop.
We've had genocides in the past, but we've never had one that was being broadcast 24-7.
Ash, your thoughts?
Yeah, it's kind of ironic exactly what happened to them.
All right, sorry about that.
We hit a break.
We'll be right back with Ash Robertson and Keith Rogers.
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We're going on for months and months and months, and we're seeing the slaughter, we're seeing the body count, we're seeing the unrelented aggression.
The International Court of Justice has called it out as genocide.
The International Criminal Court has called it out as genocide.
The United Nations has called it out as genocide.
RFK Jr.
says he sees no signs of genocide.
I'm just dumbfounded.
Biden actually hesitated there, paused.
So now all the Jewish support, the big donors, are shifting to Trump because he made such outrageous statements.
That, you know, in support of the genocide, they're just not doing it fast enough, Ash.
It's like the problem is the Israelis aren't slaughtering the Palestinians fast enough.
It's enough to make a gag.
Your thoughts?
Yeah, you know, it's... Where do I start?
You know, one of the issues that recently I think that's important for people to talk about is that They recently put out a bill that would make referencing anything about Jews in some sort of way or another would be anti-Semitic and it would be a felony.
Now, when you ask for the definition of anti-Semitic, You don't say, okay, let's go look at the law books and see what it is.
No, we don't do that.
What we have to do is we have to go to a Jewish group that decides what is a non-government NGO, non-government organization that has a list on their website of what can be considered anti-Semitic.
So for the first time in history, our laws are based on a foreign country's definition of words.
And that is frightening.
And it had full support on both sides.
And I'm sure it's already signed into law, if not already.
You know, that is something that is any normal American should Take notice of and be very, very concerned.
I mean, of course, but it'll never get up to the Supreme Court, I doubt.
But if you know, it should be, I don't know.
Well, I think it'll definitely get up to the Supreme Court.
I mean, it's totally outrageous.
Total politicalization.
It's like the category of hate speech.
There isn't really hate speech.
I mean, freedom of speech, it doesn't matter if it upsets people, but that's what they're doing.
They're using a subjective criteria.
Someone upset by what you said and someone's upset by what you said.
That's hate speech.
And then you're not supposed to be able to say it.
That's just absurd.
You should be able to say the most inflammatory, controversial...
You know, I may disagree with every word you say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it.
I believe that Thomas Jefferson said such things.
God knows that's the American way.
And the idea of allowing a foreign nation to dictate the laws of the United States is like Netanyahu saying he thought the state should call out their National Guard to suppress the pro-Palestinian, the anti-genocide students on their campuses.
Ash, this is nauseating.
I mean, this is ridiculous.
This is absurd.
Yeah.
You know, I've always sided with the Jewish side.
You know, there are arguments made more logical sense to me.
It hasn't.
I did a full 180 on this right now because of the fact that the ATL, their absolute complete You know, support of the woke thing and bringing woke to our society and voting Democrat and, you know, and now basing policy, you know, where we have to stand against every single nation on earth in the United States or U.N.
declarations.
You know, we were the only country that is supporting Israel.
And when everybody is saying, do one thing, They're, I mean, I think it's great because what they've really done is they've brought it out in the open just how much of an influence they do have over our government and our culture.
And, I mean, they brought us wokeness.
And I don't know, it doesn't make any sense.
Usually Jews are very intelligent, but how do they just think wokeness Is a good thing.
I mean, do they believe that or are they just doing it to destroy our society?
What's your thoughts?
Steve, go ahead.
Yeah, it's culture wars.
You know, E. Michael Jones has brought this out several times here, but if you look at anything that we would ourselves, it doesn't matter whether or not you're called yourself a Christian or agnostic, whatever, anything that you think is destructive to our culture or anything like that, If you're anti-globalist, you're anti-Semitic.
If you're anti-homosexual, you're anti-Semitic.
It tells you exactly who's behind all these groups like that.
So why would they be pushing this?
And of course, I was relating this earlier to a friend of mine on the phone when they talk about the Muslims of how they deal with homosexuality and stuff.
Well, remember, the Muslims are a fast growing people.
They have lots of children and stuff.
And so when they come into an area, the entire demographics of an area changes, which we've had Barbara Lerner Spector that says that the Jews will be hated for their multiculturalism.
Even Kissinger, right before he died over there in Germany, says that our multiculturalism has failed because what it did is during the Palestinian uprising and the groups all across the world, we commented on this before there, Jim, you and I, That all these Palestinian flags and stuff showed up around the world.
The point was, is they had to relabel those groups from pro-Palestinian to pro-Hamas.
So that's how they're trying to shut these things down, is trying to make the groups themselves look like they're all terrorists.
And you yourself have mentioned that a lot of these people that were arrested were Jewish.
And the problem with what I see is that most societies have cleaned themselves.
That's why we have prison systems, laws and everything like that.
And when everything is running amok anymore, where criminals are allowed to steal what they want, they can not exceed a certain value of money.
But see, all those costs and stuff of the theft and stuff are passed on to the other consumers and stuff by higher payments, whatever like that, you know.
And this woke-ism is killing this country.
And as far as this thing with the banking, I think that the only way the United States can get out of this is to do this actual jubilee, a debt jubilee, is to cancel all debts, Get rid of all and start anew, and then start this slate with the United States actually working for the betterment of the entire world, much like BRICS, where it's built on this multi-union of all these countries able to trade with one another, use their own currencies.
I remember as a kid having to go to the bank and change our Canadian coins into US value.
Why isn't that today, see?
Well, it's because they take them out of circulation faster than hell, you know?
But America's gonna have to change its debt structure, or we're gonna look like the Weimar Republic.
Because this is exactly what happened, because after Germany had done so well, like Russia, this morning Lindsey Graham said that Russia cannot win in Ukraine.
And then he cited all the trillions of dollars in wealth That will be distributed between Russia and China.
See?
Well, the point was that that was the same thing they used in Afghanistan.
Remember the trillions of dollars of these minerals and stuff over there?
All these wars are not for your freedoms.
They're not for our democracies.
How many governments have the CIA overthrown that were democratically elected?
Like Putin, his last landslide over there in Russia.
These are people that elected their own president.
And what's the United States say?
Well, we have to oust Biden himself.
You know, we have to regime change Russia.
Who is the United States to sit there and dictate who can be a leader of a foreign country?
Keith, I like the idea that you believe in ash.
Is it feasible?
Could it be done?
No way in a million years was it feasible or Is it going to happen?
What's going to happen is that's going to be forced on us.
It's not going to be a choice.
You know, nobody wants to buy our debt.
And, you know, I did a thought experiment with my AI bot and asked her at the rate of acceleration versus our income.
We kind of calculated all the numbers that we're looking at about eight to 11 years.
Before we reach a point of no return where we're not even making enough income on our GDP and our tax revenue than the interest payments.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So again, we're going to have another national bankruptcy.
It's going to be forced on us.
Right now, if you look at the stock market from any sane person looking on from the outside in, For the stock market to be hitting all-time highs is staggering.
It boggles the mind, which I attribute to the last push, push as hard as they can.
What they want to do is they want to inflate it so much because when they short it, it's going to be a massive, massive windfall.
And what's going to happen is They actually have a figure where professional money managers usually keep about 5 to 10% of their cash, if their investment portfolio in cash, just for emergencies or also good opportunities.
But right now, there's about $6 trillion in Money sitting in cash, which is about 35% of their money in cash.
And it's not in bonds or this and that, it's liquid cash.
And you see the idiots on CNBC and they're asking the experts, hey, what's going on?
Oh, the market is great.
And this $6 trillion is just waiting for a good opportunity to buy cheap.
And that's just the exact opposite of what's going to happen.
They're all waiting for the right time and the right trigger because the big dogs, when one of them pulls the trigger and just does a massive short, it's kind of like everybody is going to jump on that thing.
And it's going to look worse than the 1929 crash by 10.
It's going to completely crash.
So they're going to make a fortune.
They know what they're looking for.
They don't know when and they're all watching.
So am I. And as soon as that trigger gets pulled, boom, everybody with money is going to pile on and dump as much as they can and then completely drain the funds.
All your pension funds and your middle class and stuff is going to be gone.
All of that is gone.
And Then they're going to buy all the companies back for pennies on the dollar and the U.S.
middle class is going to be wiped out.
And this almost happened in Britain because what had happened was interest rates were at close to zero for such a long period of time.
Retirement funds were not paying enough yield for people to Retire and make a sustainable income.
So what they did is they allowed these retirement funds to trade in bonds at, I think, 5X leverage.
And so basically what happened when we started to raise interest rates, interest rates started to go up
When interest rates go up, the price of those bonds goes down, and so those retirement funds, they could have gotten liquidated and all of them wiped out in Britain, but the government stepped in and prevented that and saved them from that, and that's something similar that's going to be having to contend with here in the United States, but it's not going to
You're not going to have any time or any money to be able to do that with.
So when the market does the crash, you'll know it and you're going to be, it's going to be a world and a whole new world that you never thought possible.
I don't know how the average American can do anything whatsoever to protect himself.
I mean, you can't.
No, see, I'll tell you what happened, Jim.
I'm at financial bankruptcy right now.
My property went from 179,000 up to almost 300,000.
They've inflated the property market, which in turn changed my property insurance $4,000, sorry, my property taxes $4,000.
And then in turn, because of that, it changed my escrow.
So it doubled my mortgage payment.
And so I'm not paying anything other than my lights and my mortgage right now.
Screw everything else, credit cards, all this other stuff like that.
They don't care.
And as for Ash, Remember, Klaus Schwab said, by 2030, you'll own nothing and be happy.
I've actually seen the videos where a woman from the World Economic Forum says, you won't have to buy a screwdriver, you'll just rent it.
You know, this shows you the dystopian world that they have, is that no one will own anything, as Ash says it.
They're gonna start buying up this stuff, that's what they call these shareholders.
It's all been planned out.
Totally sack the United States.
And I want to say another thing here, Jim.
If you read the article Biden's minion, it's on forward.com.
It was all the elected Jews to be in Biden's cabinet.
And what we see is even like Ray McGovern this morning talked about Sullivan and Blinken.
These guys are waging their own personal wars against Ukraine, Russia, against Gaza.
They have their own They're using the United States as a tool.
They're bankrupting this country to fund their wars against Russia, whether it's from old Semitic hate from the Soviet Union or what.
And now we have the Gaza issue.
They are sending billions and billions of dollars over to these wars, which America can't afford, which does no benefit to America whatsoever, and in turn, It only increases migration more of millions of people fleeing those areas, whether it's Ukraine or what.
And what do you see?
Well, Ukrainians are getting Social Security here in the United States.
You got people here right now that are having their own Social Security being threatened.
And you have the politicians talk about reducing Social Security benefits, reducing.
Well, you're talking about people here in America that worked for three, four, five, six decades that have waited for their Social Security like that to have something and they've had everything else stolen through the savings and loan, the UBBI scandals, the LIBOR, the Enron.
The list goes on, the pensions, the 401ks, all this has been totally stolen from Americans for decades now.
And so what do they have to fall back on?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So what else is new?
I mean, exactly what's been going on.
Ash, your further thoughts.
Yeah, it's it's pretty sad when You know, we have plenty of money to give, you know, every illegal alien that comes over the border two grand a month on a Visa debit card.
And yet we've got problems here.
You know, all of these things that Keith mentioned with the, you know, the reasons for the wars with their religious this and their certain You know, this and that.
They're all true, but they're just a cover for what really is the case.
I mean, it's all about the military-industrial complex.
And, you know, everything stems from the military and them wanting to perpetuate wars.
They just come up with different excuses and different people, and that's how they do it, you know?
People, like, they look at Afghanistan.
We spend $2 trillion over 20 years.
Eh, that doesn't sound like a lot.
When you do the math, $2 trillion over 20 years, and you divide that down by day, that's $300 million a day, every day for 20 years.
That's what the numbers come out to.
And that, people can really understand.
That trillion here and there we're adding to our national debt that we're adding to our interest payment.
That's, you know, consider it, you know, look at it on those terms.
It's just something that, you know, trillions are thrown around lightly.
You remember Reaganomics?
Remember when Reagan came to power, the national debt was $850 billion.
By the time he got done with the Contras war, which under George Bush senior like that CIA, you know, that had risen up to 1.4 trillion.
And then, of course, Bush gets in there, you know, later.
But the point is, is this country has gone in debt, waging these illegal, immoral wars with their CIA death squads.
And you can call them ISIS or Contras.
Sandinista, whatever like that.
It's the same thing.
ISIS.
They've waged these wars against the entire planet to bring all these foreign governments into the so-called realm of the United States financial banking institution.
And now we see all that crumbling right now.
Hey, Jim, speaking of that, you know, when you plan all these wars and stuff, that's one thing.
But when you decimate your own populations, another one, I sent you a video.
It's about three minutes long.
I sure wish you could play that this morning.
Well, I was gonna say, why don't you set it up, Keith?
I could make you host, and we can play it from your desktop.
For me to do it, I gotta go through several convolutions, but I think you could do it effortlessly.
Why don't you do that at the break, and then we'll play it?
How's that sound?
Yeah, okay.
I don't know how to run this program here, but how do I share on this thing?
Well, just down at the bottom it says Screen Share.
It'll enable you to go to your desktop, and there are two little spots.
You have to click two little boxes in the center right that say, you know, Share Sound and Share Video, and then go to what the video you want to play and just click on it.
Okay, I'll try that, okay?
I'll make you host at the break, and you can do all that.
Okay, sounds good.
Yeah, because it's an important video.
Yeah, no, we'll do it.
We'll do it.
All right.
Ash, more.
I mean, I don't see what the average American can do to save their soul.
I just don't see it.
Well, the thing you can do is to, you know, is to liquidate all your stocks, invest in Bitcoin and be ready for the ride.
And, you know, if you own one Bitcoin, you know, You'll be financially set forever.
And I would do everything I could to beg, borrow, steal to get yourself one Bitcoin.
And, you know, Bitcoin, there's only ever going to be made 21 million of them.
And we know where most of them are.
And people that are corporations and the big banks and the new ETFs, when the Bitcoin ETF came out in January, They had eight of them come right at the very same time.
And we did just billions and billions of dollars.
And for 2023, all the combined ETFs, literally for the entire year, brought in $50 million.
So you're talking about historical I mean, just staggering.
You know, Bitcoin is a 1.3 trillion dollar market right now.
And we're, you know, only been around for since 2010, 2011.
And to become a trillion dollar asset, you know, companies like Apple, Microsoft and things like that.
Amazon takes literally 30 years or more Bitcoin's done it in a third of the time.
And there's only a few institutions now that are just starting to see the value.
And it's going to be the new monetary system.
And so what people want is they want a percentage of that.
So of those 21 million coins, if you own, you know, 21 Bitcoins, you own 0.00001% of the entire monetary chain.
And what's gonna happen is this is the way all transactions, Bitcoin is gonna keep gobbling up all the assets around the world and be turned into based on Bitcoin instead of dollars.
And so people who want generational wealth and things like that, they'll buy a Bitcoin and then they'll just borrow against it as Bitcoin keeps going up You just keep borrowing against it.
And so you never sell your Bitcoin.
And that's what the most successful corporations are starting to learn right now.
Michael Saylor has been a pioneer in that.
He's the CEO of MicroStrategies.
And what he noticed was with inflation, he had 500 million sitting around and, you know, with The way money's deflating at 25% a year in real value, he said, I got to do something.
And when he found Bitcoin, he started buying it with all of that money, got it approved by the board.
Then he issued more stocks and borrowed more.
Then he issued more bonds, bought more Bitcoin.
He keeps doing this.
And then people, MicroStrategies is basically a dying Software company, and he's made it one of the most successful, you know, Fortune 500 companies because of their ownership of Bitcoin.
So, he talked Elon Musk into getting involved, Jack Dorsey from Twitter, he's also involved, he owns Square, and they've taken a big position in Bitcoin.
So, these are just the first few insiders.
Apple's sitting on about $150 billion in cash.
Go ahead, Jim.
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And now we return you to be your host. - Well, Keith, let's see if our little experimental work, if you can do the screen share, do you feel let's see if our little experimental work, if you can do the screen share, do I think I did.
We'll try here a second.
Let me give a preface to this, what's going on.
You remember when Rachel Madcow was out there talking about the vaccines, about how if you get vaccinated, you can't transmit it.
You can't I mean, it's 98 whatever percent effective.
All bullshit.
Yeah.
So hopefully this video will work.
OK, well, you got to click the screen share.
You got to hit the green button at the bottom to do it.
Let me see.
OK.
Click the button and then you got to hit those two little boxes in order to share it, and then you go on to the image.
Let me back it up.
Let me back it up.
Back it up and turn on the sound.
Yeah.
Go ahead and back it up.
Okay.
See, I don't think it clicked those two little boxes to let the sound be shared, Keith.
Oh, let me see here.
Let me get back over here.
You're gonna have to go back.
You're gonna have to go back.
Share.
You see the two boxes I'm talking about?
They're in the center right.
I have share.
One participant can share at a time.
Multiple participants can share.
No, these are boxes right more toward the center of the screen.
Let's say share sound and share video.
Yes, I get a green thing and then I click this.
Then I should be able to go over to this.
Otherwise, we have a really good idea of what he's saying here.
I mean, if you want to talk about it, just go ahead and tell us what he's saying.
You can't hear this at all?
No.
Okay.
Are you getting the audio from it?
I mean, the video?
Yeah, we got the video, but not the audio.
I'm not sure why.
Anyway, so anyway, he's talking to a journalist at CNN.
Who says he's spreading all this misinformation about the myocarditis and everything like that.
And the journalist keeps saying, well, you're bogus.
You're bogus.
Anyway, as the video goes on, it gets to the end here.
And then what do you think happens?
He tells the guy, he says, this is at Dr. Kaufman.
He says, I'll see you in a couple of years to see how you're doing, because the journalist says he got vaccinated.
And this is a part.
Where he says that the journalist passed away.
Yeah.
So, but this, this is what's going on.
See, so the, what I wanted to get out here about this, what was important about this video is they have too many programs running at the same problem.
One, a depopulation program.
When you put a bunch of kids in battle or men in battle, I have the video of Dr. Fauci telling all the Ukrainian soldiers and stuff to get vaccinated.
This made these guys the weakest as possible, like had to put on a battlefield.
It's the same thing here when they decimated through the DMED program, which Senator Johnson had brought out with Robert Malone and all those guys, that it was not a vaccine.
It was a gene editor.
When you start doing this to all the people like that, and then you now have, and I sent this to Ash on an email last night, You've decimated your own population, and then you want that population to stand up in the event of a war to defend you when they're so weak.
They're getting all these diseases, cancers and stuff.
I mean, they've got so many.
Yeah, go ahead.
We get it?
Yeah.
Absolutely.
I mean, it's an all-out battle to destroy America.
I don't think any of us have any doubt about it.
Now, here's where I'm most troubled about.
Trump says Israel needs to finish the job in Gaza.
Get this!
Pledges to restore the Israeli-lobbied power over Congress.
This is dated June 6th.
This is just four days ago.
Former President Trump told Fox host Hannity Wednesday, Israel needs to finish the job and God, he did this before, but now he's reiterating.
Pledge to restore the Israeli-lobbied power over Congress as though it needed to be restored.
He said unnamed people are telling him the October 7th attack never happened, comparing them to Holocaust deniers.
I can't believe he seems to be this naive!
Trump made similar comments in 2021 when he said Israel literally owned Congress and lamented that their grip was slipping.
How bad is this?
Here we have it.
So, number one, they have to finish the job.
Israel has to finish that job.
They have to finish it quickly, strongly, and they have to get back to life again.
Because it's taking too long.
They have to finish the job.
You're saying go in, win, and finish.
You gotta win.
Gotta win.
The attack on October 7th, and it's getting more and more demeaned.
They're demeaning it.
I have people now telling me they don't think the attack ever happened.
And take a look.
You watch the news reports.
I have the 15 minutes of video.
Sure, I know you do, and so do I. But here's the thing.
You watch these people on television and they're just like you have Holocaust deniers also.
They say the Holocaust never took... It's the exact same people.
They're saying it never happened.
AOC plus three.
You know, Israel was the most powerful lobby in the country 15 years ago.
Today, between Tlaib and AOC and all of these people, what they're doing, Israel, they don't have the back end that they once had.
You'll give it to them.
Yeah, I have.
I'm good.
I'm good.
But they don't have the backing.
Even Schumer has become like a Palestinian.
Chuck Schumer, Jewish, always strong for Israel.
He's become like a Palestinian.
Called for elections in the middle of a war.
Yeah.
It's a very bad thing.
It's a very sad thing.
And it's a very dangerous thing.
But if you look, so many people I watch on your show where they're going and interviewing these people that are protesting just recently at Columbia and the different places.
They say, we don't believe October 7th ever happened.
And they may believe that, you know.
They may actually believe that.
But they have to get the job done.
They have to get in there.
They have to get it done.
Right.
They have to get the job done and they got to do it quickly.
So the only complaint he has about genocide is they're not slaughtering the Palestinians fast enough.
I'm appalled.
I mean, I believed in this guy, Ash, and here he is selling out to Israel.
Was he always an Israeli stooge?
It's enough to make me vomit.
Your thoughts?
Well, yeah, you know, it's it's kind of a sad thing.
It's kind of a This whole Israeli thing is really like a Trump derangement syndrome in reverse, you know, just with when it comes to the Jews.
You know, I think that they're, you know, I listen to Alan Dershowitz, brilliant legal mind on everything.
But you talk about Israel and it's just ridiculous retardedness, like, you know, things they say about Trump are so ridiculous.
And I think They have, you know, maybe Israel, Israel, you know, derangement syndrome.
And yeah, I mean, I heard, you know, first of all, one, you got to get elected.
And two, you know, it's having the Jewish lobby is just so powerful.
You can't just ignore it if you're running for office.
And, you know, I know when it comes down to making the correct decisions, he'll make the correct ones.
You know, Biden just keeps literally sticking his foot in his mouth and burning both sides.
And every time he does it, he loses.
Oh, I'm going to delay the arm shipment.
Well, that pisses off the Jews, like, to no end.
He did it for one day, that was it, and he didn't change the view of the left, you know, one iota.
So, he didn't gain one vote at all, and he just lost more.
Every time he does something, he loses more.
I don't like the fact, I mean, that Trump says certain things like this, you know, I heard third party, I haven't verified or whatever, that he said that U.S.
should bomb Russia and China at the same time, or something ridiculous like that.
I don't know if he said that, or people take things out of context, but... Ash, the best I can do is figure, when he went to Israel, that he was subjected to brainwashing, I mean literal brainwashing, when he was asleep.
They do this electromagnetic treatment, they can impose thoughts in your mind, Because this is ridiculous.
I mean, he's supposed to be putting America first, not Israel.
And as Jimmy Dore said, he's not an America first.
He's only America first sometimes.
He's Israel first.
Keith, your thoughts?
Well, that screen shot I put up there.
Remember, Trump was the so-called father of the vaccines.
He made sure that Israel, who was behind all the vaccines, openly admitted that, who now If you want to look at all the death in Ukraine and all the death from the vaccines, all the death from the Gaza, it's one group behind it all.
And if he wants to sit there and do that, fine.
But, you know, he doesn't show that he's a patriot toward the United States.
Alan Dershowitz just came out with a new video saying that they are going to use some of the most immense lawfare, whatever they can do.
To go after anyone who harms the Jew.
And it's like, I have no problem with Jews.
It's just that if you've got Jews out there, then it's only this select Zionism group that want to sit there and vaccinate the world and stuff and have no repercussion from what the vaccines do and stuff.
I mean, you're talking about, what is it, 18 million people killed by these vaccines?
So it makes Ukraine and Gaza look like nothing.
Oh, I think worldwide it's gonna be a billion.
Yeah.
Nobody cares about the Jews.
This isn't anti-Jew protest.
This is anti-genocide.
That's right.
What could be more appropriate than to oppose genocide?
And then they have all these... I have a caller who made a nice variation on Make America Great Again.
He says, make Israel Palestine again.
Yeah.
They had all their patsies this morning on that Mr. was it?
No, my Lord Lebo or what it was called over on Twitter posted a video.
It was a stroll down the Senate buildings or the Senate chambers there.
Every door says.
America stands with Israel.
Every single senator.
There's a sign out there on their door.
It shows you.
So when you get these guys, especially the media, too, that are sitting there saying, you know, mandating the jabs and stuff like that, these are your bought off politicians that helped and aided and abetted in the genocide of their own people, not only here in America, but globally by pushing these mandates.
Yep, that's absolutely right.
I know.
I think it's It's kind of interesting that, you know, I didn't pay any attention to this anyway, because, you know, 20 years ago, Alex Jones told us all this was going to happen exactly the way it was going to happen anyway.
And so I knew what they were doing.
So as soon as they came out with this fax, I knew instantly, as soon as Bill Gates is in it, Hey, you know, hey, he wants to reduce the world's population by 95%.
And by the way, we want to save your life by giving you this vaccine.
And not only that, but making it mandatory and punishing people like with brutal consequences if you don't take it.
And I said, boy, that's just enough for me.
I mean, you know, there's no reason to go any further.
That's why, you know, to go down all these long rabbit holes that have already been detailed in Agenda 2030 by Alex Jones many years ago.
It's just, you know, another, another situation where, you know, people, I think it's kind of interesting that the media went so hard to shut him down And get him banned off of everything.
And I think that they were planning for the pandemic and they couldn't have him being right and being on a platform to let people know, remind them of what was really going to happen.
You know, I'm sure you're right about that.
There's another thing to think of too.
Uh, I was talking to a friend of mine, uh, I call her sis, but I said, have you done any research lately about all the biolabs opening across the United States?
Here in Montana, they got one for $17 million.
She says, what about over here in South Carolina?
So I looked up $112 million biolab going in there.
What is it with all these biolabs, whether it's Ukraine, Yeah, they're moving them out of Ukraine.
They're moving them to the U.S.
Yeah, I was going to say the same thing.
Stop, Keith!
Yeah, when in our period of life have all of a sudden we've had a problem with all these viruses?
You know, whoa, look at all these biolabs going in.
Yeah, 47 of them should be coming into the United States, I would guess.
The exact same amount Jim said.
If that came from Ukraine, they shut down.
Wasn't that Boston that was putting in a BSL-3 right downtown to do a study on COVID-19?
Why would you put a COVID-19 lab downtown in Boston?
Yeah, nice.
Great, great thing to do.
Put it in a population center.
Did Bill Gates design that?
It is disgusting beyond belief.
All of it.
I am planning to open the lines for callers, and I can do that early.
Let me see what I can arrange here.
I'm just terribly upset with Trump.
Okay, so the number to call in if you want to join the conversation is 608-957-8727.
608-957-8727.
I put that up, Jim, because of what— You're throwing me off, Keith.
068089578727.
I put that up, Jim, because of what...
You're throwing me off, Keith.
Oh, I'm sorry.
I put that up there because of what...
I thought I'd regain the host and...
I'll leave you alone.
The only reason I put that is because Mr. Putin says, why is a Jewish president of Ukraine leading a band of Nazis?
Yeah.
You know.
So, again, it's like America is being bankrupted.
Yeah, the administration is overwhelmingly Jewish.
Ray McGovern says, basically, they're all Jews.
Yeah, the administration is overwhelmingly Jewish.
Every prominent figure you can name turns out to be a Jew.
And as I observed during the very first political speech I ever gave on 15 April 2008, during the Ron Paul Freedom rally on tax day that year on the grass outside the Capitol,
no dual citizen should ever be positioned in a no dual citizen should ever be positioned in a decision-making or policy-shaping office because you cannot know that their loyalty to the other state does not exceed their loyalty to the United States.
I mean, it's axiomatic.
Hey, general.
What about the talk?
What about a Chinese-American or an Iranian-American?
Wouldn't that alert someone like that?
Or a Russian-American?
No, because they don't have the money.
Yeah.
You gotta have the blanket policy.
We got area code 816, which I'm guessing is Brian.
Brian joined the conversation.
You know, it drives me nuts, you know, when people talk about bricks, because it was created by a guy named O'Neal with Lehman Brothers, like in the early 2000s.
And he came up with the whole concept.
And when we get bricks, I don't think we got rid of the Rothschilds to give you an idea that the head of the Central Bank of Russia is Elvira Nabulina, and if you look up the World Economic Forum website in 2016, they're talking about her as being a young global leader.
There's pictures of her with Lazard, and when Putin invaded Ukraine.
She was upset and threatened to resign her position.
So when we get BRICS, if we've got Rothschilds in charge of all the BRICS banks, what have we gained?
So that's what I have to say.
Ash, you want to feel that?
Yeah, I just have to disagree with you on that.
BRICS is an agreement between a group of nations You have Brazil and Russia, India, South Africa, and China.
And now I think there's about 17 more.
And it's basically a group of countries that do not want to trade international trade with the dollar.
Yeah.
53% of the world's population.
And they want to have a currency that is commodity-based.
It's backed by some hard assets.
It's like in the commodities, a basket of them, gold or silver, I mean, or just a whole basket.
At least you know that they can't run a printing press and go forever.
And I guarantee you, when Bricks comes online and they issue a currency, you're gonna have a lot of people with dollars are gonna instantly change those in For a non-inflationary currency to probably a deflationary currency.
It'll be one where your currency goes up in value because commodity values are going to go up just as a matter of inflation.
So, wouldn't it be nice where you have a dollar and then Next month, it buys $2 worth of stuff by just holding it in your bank.
I mean, that's gonna be appealing to a lot of people very quickly.
And you're gonna see at least people, hey, take 1%, 2% of your portfolio and buy a BRICS currency unit for diversity.
And then soon as that starts going on, You know, I mean, conspiracy theories are great, but when it comes to finance and, you know, what the purpose of them are about, it's really about just what I said.
And whether the Rothschilds get their hands in there, I have no doubt they may have or whatever, but it's really irrelevant to what we're talking about.
You saw that thing where Putin had threatened the World Economic Forum?
And he says, I know, I know what you're up to.
And I know, but he's he is.
Yeah, I mean, he's a lot of people say that he's on the WEF list was members.
It's like, as I know, I saw the list and I saw his name, but I know he hates the WEF.
He hates wokeness.
He hates all it.
He says, the United States, you can have it.
You know, you like the way your society is going.
That's fine.
You know, just don't force it on us because we don't want it.
Yeah, I think that was a political relations move.
There are a lot of people on the list who actually do not support the world economic forum or the New World Order or the Great Reset.
Well, I actually I actually looked into being a stakeholder.
You know, it was like $10,000 of any years ago, and now it's like $660,000.
And I looked into it and I just said, you know, I just hate everything they stand for.
I mean, I don't mind paying the money, but it's like, I just would have to be indoctrinated in their system.
And I think it's, you know, with Klaus retiring and everything like that,
I think that whatever magic or gift he had to con people with based on one of his stupid books, you know, 30 years ago, 40 years ago, how he did it, I don't think, you know, his son or whatever is going to have that same charisma or appeal or, I don't know, Jeffrey Epstein blackmail money or whatever.
I don't know, whatever he's got.
Yeah, there was an article from Baxter Dimitri which says Putin warns globalist terrorist Klaus Schwab his days are numbered and it shows it's fact-checked.
So this was in October 5th of 2023.
What's important to realize is I just saw an article or a video here on Bitshoot about 500,000 acres of Idaho farmland is to be plowed under, I guess?
Here you have Putin selling grain or giving grain away free to South Africa, canceling debt and stuff, giving fertilizer free.
He realizes, and I've heard him comment on this personally about the starvation of billions of people like that, and it's not going to happen because Russia is still the motherland, which is producing far outnumbered more grain and stuff than what Ukraine does.
And you see Russia Yeah, I have to agree with you.
stuff, which is all GMO free, by the way, around the planet like that.
And so I do think that there might be a glimmer of hope from a strong Orthodox Christian country over there, namely Russia.
Yeah, I have to agree with you.
I mean, Putin, when you listen to him speak, he's very diplomatic.
He's very close-heated.
He chooses his words very closely.
He's just an amazingly intelligent person.
You know, you hear Biden screaming, he's a butcher.
And I mean, it makes him look like a two year old.
And Putin, you know, his most extreme words are we need a professional.
I mean, that's his biggest criticism of the United States.
And, you know, he's he's a great Great leader.
And, you know, I wish the world had more of those.
I think that him and Trump meeting together with President Xi, he's like another good one.
Very diplomatic.
Everything they say is, you know, very, very strict.
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Brian, did you want to add a further thought?
I'd especially be interested in how you see this election shaping up when you got a choice between a guy who's been supporting the genocide by sending military bombs there, but who I actually don't believe is going to be on the ticket, Joe Biden, RFK Jr., who denies there's even a genocide taking place, which I find just incomprehensible.
And then Donald Trump, who's enthusiastic about it and says we're not slaughtering the Palestinians fast enough.
How do you see it, Brian?
Well, I really don't think the Trump we see is the real Trump.
You know, we know how they've got their body doubles and how hard would it be for them to just You know, when he took a trip, substitute one of their people and give them the voice and parade him out there.
You know, they always control both sides.
You know, it's always the same.
We never really have any true options in an election.
They control dominion.
They, you know, they control everything.
And so I don't I don't really see much hope with the election.
Well, we know we got a fake Biden in office.
I've proven it a dozen times over.
The real Joe appears to have died in 2017.
It's not beyond imagination we could have a fake Trump, though I tend to believe it's the real guy at the rallies and all that.
They do have voice boxes, however, that can give you an indistinguishable voice.
Of those who you want to be imitating.
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Hey, first time listening to you guys, and it's very enjoyable, and I enjoy listening to you, Jim and Keith.
But Brian, I gotta say, I don't know if you ever heard of a guy named Harold Rand.
He was one of the guys that started up Kaufman Astoria Studios in New York.
Uh, which does a lot of movie scenes, but Carol Randall was around the movie business for years.
And I'm telling you, if you could find a video, an audio clip, you got the same voice.
So you're the reincarnation.
I'm telling you, identical voice.
This is amazing listening, but I'm listening to you guys and Keith, you know, uh, by the way, you know who this is, right?
Colonel Michael.
Yeah.
Michael Stevens.
All right.
Anyway, I think, you know, we got to find the guy that used to do those video clips, these funny video clips and audio clips for Rush Limbaugh, because you know what we need right now?
A new version of Hey, Hey, We're the Monkeys, you know, but it's Hey, Hey, We're the Nazis.
You know, we could play this on almost every radio show now.
Michael, how do you see this election shaping up?
I mean, I'm just appalled.
You know, listen.
Every one of them go to the wall.
Every one of them put the thing on, they go to the wall.
And, you know, I'm not big on this Judeo-Christian nation thing.
This is, you know, another one of these make-believe ballroom things, you know.
We were founded as a Christian nation.
The Puritans didn't come over with yarmulkes, okay?
So it was a Christian nation, and then they fumbled and made a little here and there.
When you have this many people with full passports, like you guys were saying before, you know, like Keith said, what if everybody was the Chinese-American or the Russian-American and, you know, it's Putin, Putin, Putin, you know?
Look, this economic thing, and we just had a guy on this morning talking about the digital currency, which has been- Unblock your network, Michael.
It's 2006, 2013.
They've been working on this for a while.
They want to shut you down.
You've got to get an electric car, 15-minute city.
You know, it's evil versus good, Jim.
I mean, that's all it is.
It's evil versus good.
Well, who's the good out there, Michael?
I'm having a hard time sorting it out.
I'm saying it's Satan worshiping God versus God.
You know what I mean?
And we are now.
A degenerate, deviant, miscreant nation.
You know, we make Sodom and Gomorrah look like, you know, good guys.
You know what I'm saying?
Well, you have a whole month for pride.
Now, I don't give a shit what you do in your personal life.
Personally, if you like to go and do your thing and don't bother anybody, you know, you can play with a monkey.
It doesn't matter to me.
But, you know, we get one day, the day, one day U.S.S.
Liberty.
By the way, U.S.S.
Liberty was Keith and Brian and Jim.
Where was the celebration for the Liberty?
Where was the memorial for them?
Nobody wants to talk about that, right?
So, you know, the whole country, the whole country's under an illusion that we're really a Republican.
We're operating as a Republican.
We're not.
We haven't been there in a long, long time.
You want to respond to Michael?
I have no comment.
All right.
Yeah.
Michael is from two mics.com there.
Michael Schuwer, former CIA.
And I think what we're getting at, Jim, is we have Colonel Michael Stevens here.
We have Ray McGovern.
We have Scott Ritter, all these guys that are former intelligence that are the ones that are finally, you see them in a limelight now that are showing just like my heroes, as I say, Of, uh, John Stockwell, all these, uh, former CIA that have, that have been saying this over the year, but have been sequestered to let the American people know what have been, what has been going on in their name.
And now it's coming to fruition that the people are finally seeing that the government's been taken over.
Uh, we remember this during the Oliver North trials, where they talked about the shadow government.
And that had to be sequestered really fast where that one, uh, I forget the guy's name there, but he talked about, well, I read it in the Miami paper there about the, the, uh, Rex 84, the canceling of the constitution, you know, uh, and that had to be shut down, you know, you can't do this, you know?
So, but this goes to show this has been in the process for a long, long time.
Oliver North called it the Enterprise.
Well, apparently it's gone to the WEF and all these other surnames that they use like that, you know.
But if you get a chance over at Freedom America.
How do you pronounce that again there, Michael?
America's Freedom Out Loud.
Is that how it goes?
Oh, no.
We'll be on.
We'll be on live tonight at 8 p.m.
America Out Loud.
America Out Loud.
Yeah.
And the show is National Security Hour.
Yeah, so if you listen to the National Security Hour like that, I mean, anyone should take in as much information as they can.
And like I say, it isn't just here on this show, it isn't just on RBN.
We need a constant plethora of information to be brought in like that so we get a balanced view of everything, you know?
Michael, are you on RBN or here on Revolution Radio?
No, we're on americanoutloud.news.
We're on all the platforms, Jim.
Freedom First Network, you know, Spotify, Pandora.
Our personal podcast, we do that Monday show, the National Security Hour, and we're probably the most, you know, of five shows.
We have five shows there, Monday to Friday.
Everyone is former military or intel.
Mike and I are on Thursday and Monday.
Our own show is the Two Mikes Podcast, which is TWMike.com.
Where do you see us going, Michael?
I mean, I don't think they can possibly keep Biden on the ticket.
No, Biden will not be on the ticket.
They're going to do a shuffle.
You know, they could do like an LBJ.
You know, you get to the convention, you give away your delegates kind of thing.
You know, and he fades into the sunset wherever they put him.
Here's the only... I'm going to tell it to you three guys.
If they could sit down with the agency and whoever else is in the deep state, and they can speak to Trump and say, look, you know, we're not going to play with the machines this time.
You know, you got to just play along a little bit better, you know, get on the team.
We'll make you look like a hero.
You take the hit on the economy.
We'll try to rebuild it.
Then we'll go to the digital currency.
You know, I think they're just negotiating right now with Trump because they think there's no way they can put a Democrat in.
So it's, you know, bad guy, good guy, you know, bad cop, you know, I think they're going to negotiate with him because he's the only, what are you going to do if you don't have anybody?
And RFK, I mean, I know people that are like, yeah, we got to go.
Okay.
Forget it.
You know, whether he's in there to be the Ross Perot, whether he's in there to be the show, you know, how do you think you're going to run if they took out your uncle and they took out your cousin?
Like what trauma you had?
His father and his uncle.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Father and uncle.
Yeah.
No.
And his cousin too.
Oh, you mean JFK Jr.
Yeah.
True.
Yeah.
True.
Three guys on that one.
True.
You're right.
I don't think Teddy was kind of quite the same cloth as Bobby and Jack, myself.
Teddy, is Teddy was part of the KGB operation they were running up on Capitol Hill with certain congressmen and senators.
I don't think Teddy was kind of quite the same cloth as Bobby and Jack myself.
I don't think he represented a fraction of the threat they posed.
Keith?
No, no.
Listen, he was communicating with the KGB.
We got the paperwork now, I mean, but, you know, he didn't want Reagan around.
And by the way, also, I just saw something, a clip this morning with a Nixon clip where he mentions about Jimmy Carter making sure that the shot collapsed.
You know, St.
Jimmy Carter is like, you know, having St.
George Floyd.
You know, everybody gives him a thing called FDR, George Floyd.
You know, Jimmy Carter was a badass commie too, I mean, He did a lot of underlying things to this country in Panama Canal.
You know, he looked like the saint.
You know, he went to the Bible College down there, and then he went, you know, to Baptist Church.
He built houses, too.
He's a peanut farmer.
I could tell you something about the carter said to make your hair stand, but I wouldn't say it online, because I worked closely in Southeast Asia with some of the Burmese people, and they're not what they are.
It's a bullshit organization, that's all I can say.
Brian, do you want to chime in?
Have a thought you'd like to add, Brian?
One thing, we were talking about good versus evil, and I ran into something that just blew my mind on the internet.
Remember the movie Rosemary's Baby with Mia?
What was her name?
Mia Farrow.
Was it Mia Farrow?
Mia Farrow!
And the baby she has is the Antichrist.
Well, in that movie, she's wearing this This very distinctive dress.
It was a red 60s style dress with this white embroidered collar.
Well there's an image on the internet of Kate Middleton with her baby and what is she wearing but the same dress.
I mean it's so distinctive.
You gotta put that up Jason.
You guys gotta put that up there.
Yeah, it's this image.
I looked up, when I read it, I said, oh, it has to be some kind of, you know, photoshopped, whatever.
So I just punched in images of, you know, Kate Middleton with her baby.
And sure enough, there it is.
I mean, this white embroidered collar that's, you know, you don't see that.
And it's the exact same one Mia had, the dress that I did.
Who knows, maybe it's the same dress.
Nick Kohlerstrom of the UK and I, both of whom have done a lot of research on, you know, real false flags and phony stuff, have recently done a thing about Kate Middleton and we believe she was actually sacrificed in December in some kind of satanic ritual.
I don't think you're going to see Kate ever again.
Oh my God.
Hey, listen, I don't want to let you guys go without giving a little chime here.
I'm going to give a shout out to a book that was written in 1890s.
It's called Two Babylons, and the author is Alexander Hyslop.
H-I-S-L-O-P.
And if you just take a look at that book, it's the papacy and Babylon.
So for all you Catholics out there, We're still good Catholics.
Take a look at that one.
Michael, I want to go back to your analysis about Trump.
I mean, he's making all these sentiments condemning the pro-Palestine, anti-genocide protesters.
I mean, he's even talked about, you know, sending him to Israel.
I mean, nonsense like that.
He's talking about how they got to... Jim, his son-in-law is a developer, too.
And I know the opportunity they need.
They they need Miami Beach.
They need Collins Avenue, you know, over there in Gaza.
So, you know, when this is all over, there's probably the.
The resources, whether it's oil and gas, which they were talking about for a while, and then you'll have the condos, you know, the American Jews to go over.
Gerald.
Who's going to rebuild that whole area?
Kushner has talked about these luxury condos in Gaza.
I mean, it's just obscene.
Well, Israel's economy is destroyed right now.
So who's going to build all this?
Who the president was, whether it was Clinton, whether it was Bush, whether it was Obama.
You mean who's calling the shots?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because you just can't, you can't point a finger at the other guys.
And you have somebody, you know, as far as I'm concerned, when you, when you, when you had the Trump, the wealth that Trump had, I don't know how much he has now, but you know, you didn't need to be around.
You could have came to the big dinners, you know, celebrities and state dinners, you know, shook hands and mingled, but you didn't, you know, him as an advisor, come on, you know, it's like the schleps they got around him now, you know, all of these handlers, they got them, they just recycled, you know, I'm a campaign this, I'm Look, the guy that's around him, Jason Miller, he starts Getter.
Where did he get the money from Getter?
From a Chinese operative.
You know what I mean?
But Trump don't see that.
He don't smell that.
You know what I'm saying?
He knows it, but, you know, just listen.
It's going to be the lesser of the two evils, which we've had this now for 30 years.
It's always the lesser of the two evils.
917 has just joined.
917, your thoughts?
Go ahead.
Yeah, Jim, I wanted to address your caller, and he's one of many people that had heard about this book, The Two Babylons, and they bought into it without actually checking the veracity of the claims.
This stuff was put out by New Age occultists, Alice Bailey, and particularly the Jordan Maxwell, who is a disciple of Helena Blavatsky, another satanic New Age occultist.
Now, let me just say this briefly.
That book has been completely debunked by scholars, but it's being taught the way many myths are still being taught, despite the fact that they were debunked.
Tell me, what are the major claims that have been debunked, you know, not knowing the book?
Tell us a little more about it.
Okay, well, for instance, there's many claims in that book, so I can't go through them all, but I'll just tell you, for instance, He makes the claims based on Sumerian texts, ancient texts.
Those texts have been actually read and dissected by scholars of ancient languages.
What are the claims?
What are the claims that have been debunked?
Oh, for instance, one of them is that in the Catholic Church, the communion wafer is based on the sun god, Ra.
Which is absolute nonsense.
There's nothing to back that up.
He just makes the claim in an ancient text that cited— Surely, surely, surely, surely that can't be why Michael thinks the book's important or worthwhile.
Michael, what would you say are the messages of the book that Reese is disputing?
Michael, are you there?
Keith, can you pick up the issue here?
Well, I think Michael dropped off there when he went to the other caller there.
Anyway, I think we have to look at—this gets into the book of John.
When God made a covenant with the nation of Israel, it was conditional, based upon the word if—if you keep my commandments.
They didn't.
Then there came the new covenant, and in the book of John, where it talks about When Jesus held up this, this loaf of bread is my body and the wine is my blood.
The Pharisees back then could not go with that.
And if you read... Why does Michael think the book is important for current events?
I mean, obviously he believes that.
I just don't know why.
Can you help me out?
I believe it's like we see it.
It's a tale of two cities.
We have Babylon the Great.
Remember, the ancient homeland of Babylon was Baghdad.
And this was the ancient hanging gardens and all this stuff.
It was a Jewish center of worship and stuff.
What we're seeing is a destruction.
It's like you hear every day, you hear something about Roma's falling.
We're seeing a division of cultures, societies, everything.
It reminds me of Julius Caesar with his senators going around stabbing him.
What was it, 20 some senators?
I was looking at a timeline of that compared to JFK.
When you look at the timeline of when the Senators stabbed Julius Caesar, how fast the Roman Empire started to go down.
And I was trying to say, this looks so eerie to what happened right after JFK, because right after JFK, the United States swept right into its communism.
Well, we're 62 years.
Well, look how fast it, yeah.
If you read the Communist Manifesto right now and use it as a checklist, you'll see exactly where we're at.
Reese, what's going to happen, Reese, if Trump becomes president?
Is he going to be a good guy?
Is he going to close the borders?
Is he going to shut down the genocide?
Or is he going to move forward, continue to support it?
What do you foresee of Trump?
He may be our last president, if he is the president.
But getting back to the book real quickly, you know, for the 9-1-7 caller, whatever you say about the vote, just do this.
Read the Ten Commandments, and why did God say at number four, remember?
Everything else is thou, or whatever.
It's number four, it says remember.
Who changed, who changed the Sabbath to Sunday?
Was the papal, the papacy.
Honestly, theological minutiae aren't answering the pressing questions on my mind.
Ash, what's going to happen if Trump becomes president?
How would you foresee things going?
Ash?
Honestly, theological minutiae aren't answering the pressing questions on my mind.
Ash, what's going to happen if Trump becomes president?
How would you foresee things going?
Ash, Ash.
Yeah, what I think...
That other guy is rudely interrupting me.
Let me answer.
Reese, you said your piece.
I'm asking… Look, Reese, just… He's talking.
Reese!
You're asking me to respond and he's talking.
Reese, honest to God, shut up.
Ash, go ahead and tell me.
I want to know what's going to happen if Trump becomes president.
You should be telling him to shut up, not me.
You addressed me.
Oh, God, Reese.
You know, this is a problem I have with you.
It's not a problem with me, Jim.
It's a problem with you.
You asked me to respond and somebody rudely spoke over me and now you're trying to castigate me.
Here's my response.
If Trump becomes president, he's going to do exactly what he did in his first term.
He's going... Got rid of him at last.
Go ahead, Ash.
I want your thoughts.
Yeah, first of all, I wasn't rudely interrupting anybody.
You asked me what I thought.
I started speaking, didn't know.
I should have not spoken.
Anyway, I apologize if you got that impression.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
This guy has been a problem for a very long time.
OK, and he calls the different names and I have to assess whether to give him time or not.
I'm interested in what's going to happen, Ash, if Trump becomes president.
OK, I think that, first of all, he's going to on day one shut down the border.
And he's going to start the massive deportation of millions of illegal immigrants that who are set in here by Biden.
So that is going to do a huge boost to the economy.
I think that in defense of Trump, his his words about finishing the job, See, I think what he had his definition of or his his position on what is being done or should be done is different than Netanyahu's.
Netanyahu wants to keep the war going for 10 years like he's right now.
Right.
And that reason is because as soon as the war ends, he goes to jail.
Apparently, that's the most likely Cause of it because he's had, you know, he's been living on borrowed time fighting the legal system for corruption for quite some time.
And apparently the evidence there is overwhelming.
So that's that when Trump says that he should have, uh, you know, one decisively, what he's talking about is taking out Hamas quickly and effectively and not bombing indiscriminately.
I know he doesn't believe in that.
So.
What he wants to do is find out where Hermas is, and I'm sure that Israel knows exactly where they are, but the problem is if they get the Hermas leaders, guess what?
War's over, and now Netanyahu goes back and faces his medicine, and they don't get to get the Palestinians to be genocided.
What they want to do is they want The Palestinians to be taken in by the United States.
They want Biden to import 2 million of the Gaza people into the United States.
Hey, we've got 11 million on Biden's run.
What's an extra 2 million?
You know, you take them and, you know, of course, that's not what they want and they're not going to be happy.
But That's what they would like.
They want every Palestinian dead or expelled from Israel, from the land of the West Bank.
Exactly.
And 37 million people have been displaced by these wars.
And this starts from 2001.
And what have the wars benefited?
Jimmy Dore played that video clip that on the precedent of every single one of these things, whether it's Syria, Libya, whatever like that, was Benjamin Netanyahu saying that these guys had to go along with Wesley Clark saying seven countries in seven years, or in five years.
All these wars, and then look at what Benjamin Netanyahu did at the UN meeting, holding up that green map.
The green map shows Egypt, Jordan, all these.
Thanks, Keith.
Thank you, Wax.
Excellent having you here, my friend.
Thank you.
Thank you, Jim.
Spend as much time as you can with your family, your friends, the people you love and care about, because we do not know how much time we have left.
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