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The Raw Deal (31 May 2024) with Vance Green
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Is there any chaos here because my guests and my co-hosts can't connect for a reason I cannot explain.
I'm going to repeat we've begun with a trial which is a travesty where Paul Craig Roberts has it exactly right God damn God
damn God damn I believe I'm going out now.
Let me hope.
Again, I repeat, tyranny is upon us.
Tyranny is upon us.
Law and juries are weaponized.
Finding Trump guilty.
What else do we have with a total mobilization?
Another drone attack on a strategic facility of the Russian nuclear forces.
Meanwhile, NATO is cooking up something big.
Putin is ready for all-out war.
Putin is ready.
The NATO wants to fight, but Putin is ready.
Very big.
According to excellent journalist and friend of the show, Eva Bartlett, quote, I've heard from several contacts now who've gotten the same nearly verbatim emails and questions.
NATO's mouthpieces are cooking something up.
Now, if you know Eva, she's one of the finest journalists in the world.
Okay.
Hands down.
Very few people even come close to her.
She's not given to hyperbole.
Okay.
She's not one to say NATO's up to something.
No, she's basing that in fact, and it's deeply, deeply concerning.
I'll tell you, a hot war with Russia is happening, folks.
We need to wake up right now.
The Biden administration, led by Antony Blinken, because President Biden is not leading this administration.
It's Antony Blinken.
He's president, basically, of the United States.
Blinken hints U.S.
will allow Ukraine to strike Russian territory with U.S.
missiles.
He made the comments in Moldova, where he is right now, getting them to shut down their state media.
to enable them to stop any kind of Russian information that's coming to their country.
Going to give millions of dollars in aid for that country right now, as long as they stand in lockstep with us right now.
Anyway, he said that the U.S. may allow Ukraine to strike Russian territory with U.S.-made missiles, which would risk provoking a major response from Russia, of course.
Last night, Blinken actively pushing to allow NATO to strike Russian territory with U.S.-made missiles.
made missiles.
I don't care how you spin this.
We are not stupid.
This means the U.S.
is attacking Russia.
A physical, hot, kinetic war with Russia.
This is how they will control us.
This is how they will remain in power.
Think you have an election to worry about coming up in November?
Not if we're at a full-blown war with Russia.
They won't have to even worry about election.
We'll cancel the DNC.
We'll cancel the Democratic National Convention.
We'll make sure that all of you get a ballot mailed to your house.
You don't have to leave the house.
There's a security risk.
Why would you want to go to a grocery store?
Why would you want to leave your house?
After all, Russia could hit you.
This is how they will control us.
Remember, Tucker Carlson warned us about this.
Right after he was let go from Fox News, he talked about a hot war with Russia and how they tried the COVID strategy.
They actively want a hot war with Russia.
This is how they will control us.
Watch.
Here's my view of it.
I think the lies are unsustainable.
Lying is always unsustainable.
You're always found out in the end, whether in your lifetime or posthumously, but your lies are always revealed by their nature.
These lies are so big and so obvious and so stupid that it's going to be very clear to the majority of voters before the election that the Biden administration has no idea what it's doing, that Joe Biden is not running the government, and that it's not working at all.
And I think by that point we're going to have a real economic contraction.
We're going to be in the teeth of a very tough recession, and that makes everything much more intense.
And so if your goal is to maintain power, and if you think once you relinquish power, the problem with everything becoming, the problem with criminalizing politics is the people who do it imagine or know that it will be done to them.
So once you start indicting your political opponents, you know that you have to win or else they're going to indict you if they win, right?
Right.
And so they can't lose.
They will do anything to win.
So how do they do that?
They're not going to do COVID again.
I know everyone on the right is afraid they're going to do COVID and mask mandate.
They're not going to do that.
They can't do that.
If they've already been exposed, that won't work.
There's going to be... No.
What are they going to do?
They're going to go to war with Russia.
That's what they're going to do.
There will be a hot war between the United States and Russia in the next year.
Really?
Yes, of course.
They want it anyway.
I don't think we'll win it, but that's a separate analysis.
Now, that was nine months ago?
Pretty prescient.
Then the mainstream media playing right along with Biden.
Here's the New York Times in lockstep.
From allies and advisors, pressure grows on Biden to allow attacks on Russian territory.
President Biden is weighing fears of escalation with a nuclear armed adversary as he considers whether to let Ukraine shoot American weapons into Russia.
First of all, do any of you believe for a hot second that President Biden is weighing anything on his brain?
I mean, honestly, I don't say that to be rude, but I mean, do you honestly, do you think advisors are sitting around wondering, the president, he's up there sitting at the coffee table by the fireplace, like Franklin Roosevelt, you know?
I think they just give him an ice cream cone and they talk about the things they want to talk about.
He's not, he's just sitting there with his ice cream and they're just, they're planning the destruction of the United States.
Just melting in his mouth and he's not weighing anything.
There's nothing that he's weighing right now.
There are people that are running this on purpose, and this is exactly what they want to have happen.
From allies and adversaries, right?
pressure grows on Biden.
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And now we return you to your host.
We're still having a challenge getting my co-host John Carmen on today and my guest Vance Green.
I will be scheduling him for another time, I think.
Meanwhile, we have a report.
We've just been hearing NATO is cooking up something bad.
Putin's ready for all-out war.
We seem to be provoking it.
Here we have another report.
Lew Rockwell, Paul Craig Roberts, talking about what's going on here.
Very, very bad.
Satellite photos show Ukrainian drone strike damaged Russian radar station.
Here is Paul Craig Roberts.
Hey everybody, back again with us once more is Paul Craig Roberts to talk about a recent column on his site which is about the Ukraine escalation and what it portends for the future.
Is it more indication that we are heading towards a major conflagration, maybe even World War III?
So Paul, what signs do you see indicating this progression and this escalation?
Yes, they're mounting rapidly, Larry.
Perhaps the most frightful one is the recent Ukrainian attack on the early warning system, the early ICBM warning system of Russia.
They managed to hit radars central to Russia's early warning system With long-range missiles or drones or something that we gave them.
Now, this strikes me as probably the most reckless incident to date, because although I'm no expert, I think under Russian nuclear doctrine, an attack On their early warning system is regarded as a nuclear attack, and it justifies their use of a nuclear response.
Of course, Putin is too careful and too responsible to do something like that.
But what it shows on our part is a growing recklessness.
We're pushing Harder, we're getting more provocative.
And we see another equally, almost equally as disturbing development in the growing support for allowing Ukraine to use the long range missiles we provide to attack deep within Russia.
You know, we have this U.S.
Republican committee chairman in the House advocating that we get out of Ukraine's way and let them use this.
We have the NATO Secretary General saying that Ukraine has to be able to use the weapons we provide however they want and so on.
So, it looks like the intended provocations of Russia are getting more and more serious.
Also, Paul, Victoria Nguyen, the neocon, former undersecretary of state who engineered a lot of what went up to this, she's recently come out and made another statement, an aggressive statement about this, so she's resurfacing now in some form.
Yes, her departure remains a mystery.
So, NATO and Washington are advocating to let Ukraine use the long-range missiles to attack deep within Russia, and the Russian response was to conduct an exercise and the Russian response was to conduct an exercise simulating the use of tactical nuclear weapons against Europe.
Now, these three together should scare us a great deal, and yet we still see no inclination whatsoever of any fighting in the West to and yet we still see no inclination whatsoever of any fighting in the West to sit down and talk to Putin and see if this can
It's quite amazing that with Biden's term almost over, he has never met with Putin.
Yeah, good point.
Yeah, he's never met.
And there's no inclination anywhere that I can see in any Western leadership, other than Hungary, where people were concerned about the recklessness, increasing recklessness of the Western pressure on Russia.
We're also talking about NATO troops more and more.
More and more.
I think I got John here.
Am I right, John?
You're with me?
Uh, this is Vance.
I just called in from my cell phone.
Oh, Vance!
Okay, Vance.
Hey, terrific.
Glad to have you here.
Now, listen, we've been- I'm so sorry about this.
Don't you worry.
It's not a first and won't be the last time there's a problem connecting.
Now, I have been It began with this story about Trump being found guilty of falsifying record of Biden campaign, being, you know, wildly enthusiastic about what's happened here.
Paul Craig Roberts bemoaning what's happened because it's a case where there was no complaint.
Get this.
What is frightening is that legally this is a case for which there are no legal grounds for bringing it.
At the Bar Association, the law school, the media said nothing.
Getting Trump was so important that law was sacrificed for the purpose.
Vance, is that your impression?
It is most certainly mine.
I'm just shocked by what's happened here.
Your thoughts?
Well, first and foremost, I think it's a distraction.
But, I mean, I'm a Trump supporter.
But the whole suing him for supposedly falsifying business records, All of this is just, it's annoying and disgusting to me because I immediately started thinking about Kennedy's affair with Marilyn Monroe.
And the only difference between Stormy Daniels and Marilyn Monroe is there will never be posters plastered all over the United States of Stormy Daniels.
America has a love affair with this woman, this homewrecker, Marilyn Monroe.
If Marilyn Monroe had slept with any other woman's husband, women in America would be furious.
But for some reason, the media has succeeded in turning almost all of America against Donald Trump because of some so-called salacious affair.
Nobody... Jimmy Swagger didn't get dragged through the mud like this when he had an affair.
He cried on TV and America forgave him.
So the idea that somebody would wait all these years after this mess happened to decide that they want to sue him, to come after him, For falsifying business records.
That's when I started really paying attention.
I already liked Trump when I saw that Chuck Schumer was having a conniption fit because he met with Putin behind closed doors.
And Schumer had a veritable conniption fit.
Oh, this is unpresidential.
The president shouldn't be meeting behind closed doors as if he was the only president to ever have met with a foreign leader.
So that's when I really got on board the Trump train when I saw the People like Chuck Schumer were holding press conferences just to criticize this man for talking to a foreign leader.
You're supposed to talk to somebody.
You're on the verge of war.
Gang members even sit down and talk to each other, for God's sakes, when they're getting ready to slaughter each other.
You mean the leader of the free world is being excoriated for meeting behind closed doors with Putin?
And as you just said, before I got onto the call, Biden has never sat down and met with him.
It's because all of Biden's advisors telling him that he should not sit down and meet with Putin.
You're supposed to sit down and meet with your adversary.
My bosses have been doing it before most of us were born.
At some point, two level-headed people realized this is a zero-sum game.
If we go to war, neither of us is going to survive, and neither will our kids.
So we should sit down and talk this over.
So there was a great episode in Game of Thrones.
I don't know if you're familiar with the show.
They had a meeting, and one of the people who was reluctant to have the meeting was telling the two powers, you two need to talk.
There won't be any empire, there won't be a throne for you to rule over if you two don't talk.
That's the same scenario played out today with Biden and Putin, or whoever replaces Biden thereafter.
But my entire childhood life, I was taught to hate Russia because of the people who were whispering in Biden's ear, who were whispering in Trump's ear, and Trump said no.
And I think what got Trump in the crosshairs is when he refused to listen to them, whoever his advisors are, the CIA, the Defense Department, and actually decided, you know what, I want to hear what Putin has to say.
And ever since then, they've been telling us that he's a, he's a foreign agent.
Russia put him in the White House and all this other nonsense just because he sat down and spoke to the man.
This is the only time in my history, I'm only 52, this is the only time in my young years on this planet that I've heard a president dragged through the mud repeatedly because he talked to our enemies.
That's when I started respecting Trump.
All the other stuff, the salacious details about him having extramarital affairs, dalliances and all that other stuff, and they kept harping on that for a whole year.
I'd never heard that about President Kennedy.
So that's when I started liking the man.
If all the dirt that you have on him is that he had sex outside of his marriage, then almost no one on this planet, he who without sin, cast the first stone.
Nobody should be throwing stones at this guy.
I'm sure we got 535 members of Congress.
I'm sure more than half of them had extramarital affairs, and they're probably being blackmailed for it, but we'll never hear about that.
But the whole thing is that he had sex with a stripper, and paid her off, or a porn star, whatever the heck she is.
And paid her off.
That's their most damning evidence against this guy.
Not that he's bad for the country, he tried to stage a coup and all this other nonsense.
They couldn't get him on anything else, so they just decided, let's prosecute this guy for falsifying some business transaction.
This is the dumbest public trial I have ever seen in my life.
It's nuts.
Yes, I couldn't agree more.
Well, Trump has now disappointed me with his call to Hannity, where he's expressing enthusiasm for the genocide, saying it's a horrible thing, but it's got to be done.
His only complaint was they were slaughtering the Palestinians fast enough, and now he's gone on to tell a group of Jewish donors that if he becomes president, he's going to stifle all the student protests, which are as American as apple pie.
I can't imagine a more worthy cause of protest and genocide and even talk about deporting.
He talked about deporting foreign students or other proposals to send the protesters over to Gaza so the IDF could take them out.
I mean, that is just so grotesquely undemocratic, un-American, unpatriotic, so violative of the First Amendment and the freedom of speech, freedom of the press and the right to peaceably assemble for redress of grievances.
I could hardly believe my ears when Trump was saying it because I've been a very Strong supporter of Trump.
I mean, he has done some things that I could not forgive him for, such as the assassination of Qasem Soleimani, and other stuff that I thought was inappropriate and wrong, like moving the U.S.
Embassy to Jerusalem, claiming that Golan Heights belonged to Israel, and unfunding the UN Refugee Agency, dealing with Palestinians.
But heretofore and before that phone call, I was pretty staunchly in his corner.
Now, if we're confronted with a choice between more of Biden, that's obviously unacceptable.
I can't even believe there's any real chance he'll still be on the ballot.
And in RFK Jr., who has recently asserted that he sees no evidence of any genocide taking place in Gaza.
We're pretty much out by creek now.
Now we have redacted here, uh, reporting that, you know, with, if there's a war with Russia, then they can, you know, secure the nation and do all the balloting by mail, which will enable them to manipulate any outcome they'd like.
Go, go for it.
All, all the above or any.
Yeah.
Uh, I didn't, I did not hear.
That recent call from Hannity.
I haven't been listening to Hannity in a while, but yeah, that definitely would have turned me off from him.
I get why he has to say that.
As you pointed out, these are obviously his donors.
RF Kennedy, Robert Kennedy saying that there's no genocide in Palestine.
Well, yeah, obviously they're in his pockets too, but that just goes to show you the more you hear stuff like this, this pro AIPAC, Pro-IDF, pro-Israeli stance from, from Trump.
I mean, his daughter married into the family.
So his daughter married into the tribe.
So he made clear where his familial loyalties are and following those loyalties tied to his family.
It's either them or the entirety of the country.
And if he's getting money from, from AIPAC or these mega wealthy Jewish donors, Anybody get money.
I mean, I always think of this as me being a kid getting allowance.
I only got allowance if I was doing what I was supposed to be doing around the house.
Helping out around the house.
So Trump's beholden to his benefactors.
Listen, you didn't hear it.
I got it right here.
Let me play it for you because it's just shock, shock.
This is like three weeks ago.
When you look at the anti-Semitism, the hatred of Israel by so many people, you go back 10 years, I mean, Israel was protected by Congress, and now Congress is just doing numbers that are unbelievable with, I think, a very, very small group of people within Congress, and it's got to stop.
But we have to go back to the roots.
We have to protect.
We have to stop the anti-Semitism that's just pervading our country right now, and Biden has to do something.
You have to get the job done.
It's a horrible job to do, but they have to respond where there's an attack.
A sneak attack, like on October 7th, that's so violent and such hatred.
You have to clean it out.
You have to clean out the cancer and you have to let them do their job.
And frankly, it has to be done fast because this is not sustainable for anybody.
The job has to be done.
It has to be done fast.
The United States has to get courage and the United States has to speak up.
Nobody knows where the U.S.
stands right now.
I think Biden is not on the side of Israel.
And he's making a tremendous mistake.
You have to clean up the terror that we witnessed on October 7th.
But the bottom line is they have to be able to finish the job.
You have to let them finish the job.
You have to support them.
But they have to do it quickly.
And you can't let scenes like this.
The head of Columbia should be ashamed of herself.
The job that she's done.
She should no longer be there.
She should be absolutely ashamed because she let this take place, Sean.
Vance, if you haven't heard that before, it's probably pretty shocking, because it was so disillusioning to me.
Your thoughts?
You know what?
Usually I listen to Hannity when I'm in a... I'm a truck driver, actually.
That's my profession.
So usually when I'm in a truck, I would listen to Hannity at the end of my day, and sometimes I get lucky and call in.
Sometimes he'd say something so crazy or so stupid that I would have to call in.
And in an instance like this, I'm sure I wouldn't have been able to get on because the phones would have been flooded after Trump calling in.
But I would have kept calling and calling.
We have to do something?
Getting Congress on board?
Basically, there's a veiled threat there to clamp down on the First Amendment.
This is the kind of stuff that the people who are outside in the streets in New York, and I'm in northern New Jersey, so I'm like 20 minutes from New York.
This is the kind of stuff that people in the tri-state area, Should be putting their money into banners and signs and all that other stuff.
Instead of laying down in the street and blocking traffic.
I mean like tangible, meaningful protest efforts.
Like this is the kind of stuff that will turn me away from Trump.
Saying stuff like we need to get Congress to clamp down on free speech.
You know they already passed a law here now saying that it's a hate crime to criticize Israel or to criticize Zionism.
This poor ignorant man keeps saying it's anti-Semitic to criticize Israel.
Palestinians are Semites.
I've been arguing with people about this on the internet for months now.
Palestinians are Semites.
So how can... But see, this is his training.
These are his advisors in his ear telling him.
And he's probably reading from a teleprompter.
Maybe he's... I mean, this was a phone call.
Maybe it was off the cuff.
He's a businessman.
He's an extremely busy person.
The average American, most of us, most of the people that I even argue with, and they're mostly truckers on the trucker website, saying anti-Semitism.
It's a knee-jerk reaction.
People are throwing around anti-Semitism and don't even know what the hell Semites are.
I drive a semi.
Semi is Latin for half.
A Semite is half.
It's half African, half Hebrew, half Assyrian.
Palestinians are Semites.
So when you say anti-Semite, No one is anti-Palestinian.
You may as well.
It's a euphemism to incorporate or to just narrow the definition.
What used to be historically, and I have a very old dictionary here.
I'm sure in most modern dictionaries, if you look up semi and Semite, it shows you the origin.
Semite, first of all, Semite, as you well know, Semite was a language.
It wasn't a people.
It wasn't until some German, and I don't remember his name, I think it was 1839 or 1859, decided to lend that connotation to a people.
But up until that time, Semite is and was a language.
I'm going to take a picture of it from the front page of this dictionary and send it to you.
So people saying ridiculous stuff like, it's a veil.
Go ahead.
No, I was just going to agree with you.
Yeah, it's a linguistic distinction.
They're the Semitic languages.
But your point's impeccable.
The Palestinians are modified Semites, and it turns out that because the modern-day Israelis or Khazarians are descendants of the region now known as Ukraine, they're not Semites.
So ironically, it turns out that Israel is the greatest practitioner of anti-Semitism in the world today.
You've got it exactly right, Vance.
I'm so glad you said that.
This morning, I received another confirmation link from the UK National Archives, and I sent you some of those photos.
So just to prove, because I, for the listener, for the listener who's hearing this stuff and saying, oh, these people are nuts.
They're not Khazarian Jews.
In the UK's files from 1948, they were talking about one of the Jews from the Stern Gang, the terrorist group, the Levi or Leumi, Leumi, Lehi, Levi, Leumi, which is the Jewish phrase, the name, the full name for the Stern gang.
And they were identifying one of the members and pointing out that one of these members had originated.
He was born in Poland in 1897.
I'm going to find that document and send it to you.
Born in Poland.
And immigrated, moved to Israel.
So to your point about them not being historically so-called biblical Israelites who were born there and God gave them this land.
No, a lot of these, a lot of the Jews that are there now immigrated into this area from outside of, from Europe, from places like Poland.
This is, it's nuts that people don't know this and they're in, Cling to this nonsense claim about God gave them the land and there was no such thing as Palestine.
There was no place that existed.
When there's video of President Truman on YouTube from the 1940s discussing the conflict in the Middle East, standing in front of a really old map that clearly has the words Palestine on it.
The training and the indoctrination is so deep and it is so intense.
That even when a person is confronted with evidence to the contrary, even before they look at the evidence, they will just immediately say, no, that's not true.
I was raised in a religious household.
My parents were Baptist first.
And then my, and then as I became an adult and moved out of the house, they switched over.
My father became a Catholic and obviously my mother joined them.
So like many people, like millions of us, we were brought up in this household in a religious home.
So.
Your parents tell you these things as a kid.
You trust your parents like you trust a weatherman today.
Mom and dad said this stuff came from God.
The Bible came from God.
You don't question it.
You're brought up to respect the Bible.
You're brought up to respect authority.
You don't question the Bible, and you don't question your government.
And if you don't shake out of that indoctrination, if you don't shed that indoctrination, expand your worldview, Hey, okay, mom and dad did lie about Santa Claus coming down the chimney.
What else did they lie to me about?
What else isn't true?
Love it.
Love it, man.
It's crazy.
It's crazy that people 30, 40, 50 years old have not posed that question to themselves.
These little white lies, the same people who found out that mom and dad lied to us about Christmas continue to lie and lie to their children.
Okay, it's a little white lie.
Fine.
You're supposed to do that.
You don't want to tell an eight-year-old or five-year-old or three-year-old that Santa Claus is not real.
I get that.
I understand that.
But when your kids get a little older, 16, 17, 18 years old, you should start introducing these young adults to critical thinking.
Hey, there's more to learn than what you learned in high school.
There's more to learn than what you learned in college.
I'm arguing today with another truck driver, with many of them, but another truck driver on CDL Life.
Who also is a military veteran.
A lot of truckers now are ex-military.
And these people are deeply, devoutly religious and pro-Israel.
Because they got it into their heads as young children and even as young soldiers.
God, country, and family.
And to them, God and country, God means the God of the Hebrews, the God of Israel, the God of America.
So God and country to them means God, country, Israel.
And since they keep being told every single day, Israel is America's friend, if you tell somebody that over and over and over again for decades, and you even hear that from your commanding officer, I've never been in the military, you even hear that from your commanding officer, you hear that from your brothers, you hear that from your family, and everybody you know has a cross around their neck or a cross on their body somewhere, that indoctrination is seeped into you like the ink in your tattoos.
But nobody wants to get their tattoos removed.
Nobody's getting the cross removed.
You know what?
I gotta tell you this.
Two days ago, I saw something... No, actually, I think it was... It was Monday.
I saw something really, really sick.
And I've seen it my whole life, but I never paid attention to it.
Even though I did hear a comedian talk about it.
Hold that... Yeah.
Hold that thought.
We'll be right back with Vance Green.
A very simple truck driver who's got a lot of opinions and are very well found.
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Well, I'm very pleased that Vance Green, my guest today, and I were able to connect after several hits and misses.
is Modern technology, of course, has great benefits, but can also be problematical when things don't work right, just as if we haven't Electromagnetic pulse set off over the United States.
It's going to be catastrophic because nothing's going to work.
No electricity, no television, no communication, no cell phone.
Your car won't run because of all the computerized components.
And the estimates have up to 70% of the population will not survive.
Vance, you have many virtues.
You're so clear-minded, you're so direct, and there's a down-to-earth quality about you that I really like and appreciate.
I'm just delighted to have you here today.
I've got this Bobby thing I want to play for you, too.
Yeah, go ahead and respond and pick up wherever you like, but I got this Bobby clip for you to hear, too, where She's saying, so far as you can see, there's no genocide in Gaza, which is just ludicrous.
Go ahead, Vance.
So, thanks for having me, but I just, for your listeners, I just want to make clear, because if I'm on the internet and I'm listening to this, I would be thinking, why is a luminary like Mr. Jim Fletcher talking to some nobody truck driver named Vance Green that I've never heard of?
Well, probably because of my involvement in the, and I hate the term, the 9-11 Truth Movement.
So I got involved in the 9-11 Truth Movement because my second oldest sister, Diane Green, she's now deceased, worked at, she was a paralegal at Cantor Fitzgerald.
So I still have the ID, by the way.
I went to go see her on August 10, a month and a day before 9-11, August 10, 2001.
I still have the very poorly faded Guest pass ID that I got from visiting her.
So, like most people, I guess it was, oh no, it seemed like 24 hours.
It wasn't a full day.
I think she called maybe around midnight or one in the morning.
But for several hours, I was brainwashed by the news and I believed every single thing that the government told me.
All I know is that I couldn't find my sister.
My parents were crying and nobody wants to hear your mother crying, ever.
And we all thought my sister was dead.
So naturally, coupled with that emotional anger, the media is manipulating that fear and that anger from all of us who are almost lost and for those people who did lose somebody on 9-11.
So when this CNN poll came out on TV about, should we nuke Afghanistan?
I actually called, actually I called for two reasons.
I called CNN crying because I was screaming and yelling, stop showing the pictures of the plane going into the tower.
Cause I didn't know where my sister was yet.
I've never called into the news networks before.
I've never called into a radio show.
I didn't care about politics at all.
So, April 2001, I got my CDL.
I just became a truck driver.
Five months later, 9-11 happens.
I didn't give a damn about politics.
I stayed out of the government's business.
I was too busy just trying to make a living, trying to make ends meet like everybody else.
I did not care about this stuff at all.
I only started caring about it because the government, Tried to murder my sister and did murder almost all of her co-workers at Kenneth Fitzgerald.
I don't know how many people who worked with my sister at Kenneth Fitzgerald survived, but I know a good portion of that company was decimated.
They had several floors.
It wasn't just the 104th floor.
But most of my sister's co-workers, save for the few people that were off that day, are dead.
But I distinctly remember getting off that second elevator, because it's a horrible trip to get to the 104th floor.
From the lobby, and I'm scared of heights, from the lobby, you get up to, I think, the 60th or 70th.
You take a flight to the middle, and then you got to get onto another elevator.
For somebody who's scared of heights, it's terrifying.
I got off on the second elevator, and everybody on the floor just screamed, hi, Diane's little brother, because they couldn't remember my name.
I'm not going to wax poetic and say I think about these people every day.
That'd be bold.
I don't.
But I think about a lot of them often, and that greeting, because I had this image of New Yorkers.
I had never been to New York a day in my life before that.
Well, that's not true.
I took the train there accidentally.
I almost had a panic attack.
I got lost, and my sister came down.
And because the last train from New Jersey, from northern New Jersey, was to the World Trade Center.
I must have fallen asleep on the train.
I woke up at the World Trade Center.
I didn't know where the hell I was, so I called my sister.
Once I saw the signs, she came downstairs and took me up to her office.
So that was my first time in New York.
But I turned around, got on the train, and went right back to where I was supposed to be.
So I didn't actually walk the streets of New York.
So on this occasion, coming out to purposely visit her, that was my second time in this ginormously terrifyingly large building.
Again, for somebody who's scared of heights.
So this is why I got involved in 9-11.
I did not know until a month or so.
As a matter of fact, my mother slipped up and told me the same day on 9-11 that my sister survived a bombing in 1993 also.
And it was because of that.
That's the only reason she survived 9-11.
She was downstairs in a lobby waiting in line to buy some bagel or muffin for someone.
She lost a bet with one of her church friends over a gospel singer.
And so she was in line.
The bet was a muffin or a bagel.
So she was waiting in line to get that lady's payment.
For her losing the bet.
She misidentified this gospel singer.
So she was getting a muffin, because she lost.
And while she was waiting in line, she felt the entire building shake.
And she remembered, thought of 1993 immediately, pushed as many people as she could out of the building, and got the hell out of there.
But I still didn't, and I didn't talk to her until several days after.
She let my mother know, once the army got her over to, I think it's Hoboken, in a ferry.
She called my mother.
Because, of course, you're going to call your parents at first.
Nobody's going to call their little brother.
I'm the youngest.
So she called my parents to let them know that she was alive and she was OK.
Of course, she was terrified and crying and everything.
And then I talked to her a couple of days later.
But this is 2001.
It wasn't until I saw these, no disrespect, they were kids to me.
It wasn't until I saw the kids, Burmese and Avery, who made loose change.
I saw this clarion call, for lack of a better term, when I saw them on C-SPAN.
Talking about, hey, we're going to be in New York.
The government lied to you about 9-11.
Now, I had seen one film from Alex Jones in 2004.
Somebody gave me this film.
I think it was Tyranny or Truth or Tyranny or something like that.
But he was the first to start poking holes in the government's explanation.
So that was a paradigm shift for me.
What?
This was like finding out that Santa Claus is not real, but as an adult.
So that was my introduction to Questioning the government.
My dad was... I'm an army brat.
My dad was in the army.
It was yes, sir, no, sir, your whole life.
I mean, yeah, yes, I was a bad kid, as bad as you could get away with, before I had to deal with the consequences from my parents.
But I wasn't one of these people that grew up questioning the government all the time.
It's not that I actually ever trusted them, but I wasn't into activism or all that other stuff.
I worked, I kept my head down, I minded my business and tried to make a living, like most people do.
So I did not get into the I was not born into being an activist.
Absolutely not.
I want to make that clear to the listeners.
So why the hell would you be talking to some nobody truck driver?
Well, this nobody truck driver just so happens to live less than 10 minutes away from where our so-called best friends, the Israelis, two members of Mossad, a Mossad cell, were detained.
I want to use the right word because the local police department is adamant that they did not arrest them, and technically they didn't.
So for those of you who don't know, on 9-11, while the buildings were collapsing, while my sister and probably your friends or your neighbor, everybody knows somebody who almost died on 9-11 or who did die on 9-11.
While all of this was taking place, as the first plane crashed into the World Trade Center, this is 8:46, but at 8:30 to 8:40, there was a woman in western New York, which is part of Hudson there was a woman in western New York, which is part Who was asked to look?
Over to the World Trade Center and see what's going on because she's this woman.
The neighbor saw smoke coming from New York.
Almost think of like Canadian forest fire smoke.
So the woman, the one woman calls the lady whose name starts with an M. Don't want to say her name because her family and don't doesn't want all this publicity.
Anybody who has seen documents knows who this lady is.
So the friend calls Lady M and says, hey, could you look over at the World Trade Center?
Look over to New York and tell me what's going on.
I see smoke.
There is nothing on the news yet.
There's just smoke billowing from New York, and it's coming all the way over to New Jersey.
Western New York and Union City, New Jersey, I'm sorry, is facing the New York City skyline, facing the World Trade Center.
So she asked Lady M to get her binoculars and take a look.
Lady M is only focusing on where the smoke is coming from, what the heck is going on that's clouding the skies in New Jersey now.
As she's focusing on New York, only asked to look at New York.
She sees men in the parking lot of her building.
It's high rise apartment building.
Men, two at least, on the top of a moving van.
I've worked some menial jobs.
I was a mover.
I worked for a moving company.
These men working at a moving company in a clearly marked van that says Urban Moving Systems.
She noticed these men happy and celebrating.
Remember, Lady M gets a call from her friend.
Hey, look at New York.
What's going on?
I'm a little concerned.
So the friend is concerned.
Lady M is concerned.
These men are celebrating.
Like their team just scored an athlete.
These men, at least two of them, were Jews.
From Masaad, I know it sounds absolutely BS.
It sounds stupid.
I've heard all of the refutations a listener could think of.
Oh, you're absolutely nonsense.
You hate Jews.
You're anti-Semitic.
The woman I just, we just recently separated.
But for more than 20 some odd years, and especially when this happened, my girlfriend was Jewish.
So knock it off with the you hate Jews stuff.
You guys, the refutations have to be more evidence based than you're only saying this because you hate Jews.
September 12, 2001, it was in our newspaper, the Bergen Record, when the police from the East Rutherford Police Department in Bergen County, by the way, I'm getting a little too far ahead.
So Maria sees these men celebrating.
She's terrified.
She's home alone.
Thank God she kept her mouth shut.
Thank God she stayed quiet about it.
Her husband was away from jury duty.
This woman was terrified.
Her husband comes home around three or so.
Yeah, it was exactly three.
She tells her husband what she saw.
He calls the police department in their town.
The detectives take the report.
They call the FBI.
The FBI swarms that building, swarms those towers in Union City.
So because of her timing, because of her fear, and because she stayed quiet, this is the only reason that the FBI issues will be on the lookout.
For these men, there are now five of them driving around in a clearly marked van.
They're posing as movers.
They look like movers.
They're posing and they're driving a van labeled Urban Moving Systems because of her fear and keeping her mouth shut and waiting for her husband to get home.
That's why these men were intercepted.
If she had called right away, who knows?
Maybe they would have gotten, maybe they would have, would not have been caught.
But because of the timing and because of the timing of the Bolo, These men were intercepted on Route 3 East in East Rutherford, New Jersey.
Anyone skeptical of this, you're welcome to contact me or Mr. Fetzer.
This stuff is all over the internet.
I will gladly send you the September 12, 2001 Bergen Record article.
You can easily find it.
If you can't find it, I'll send it to you.
Send it to anyone.
So the East Rutherford Police Department, responding to this bolo, sees these men heading back to New York.
This is about 3.30, 3.45, because again, thank God this lady did not tell anyone she was crippled by fear.
Understandable.
3.30, 3.45, these men are stopped.
Five men in the moving van, which is, by the way, highly unusual.
Anyone who's ever been moved by a moving company, you know five people don't show up unless you own a big home.
It's usually three guys.
There's the foreman and there's two of us.
Not five people.
Especially not five people in one van.
There may be two vans with about six guys if you have a really big mansion, but not five men moving crew in one van.
No.
I've worked for a moving company.
There was never five of us.
So the East Rutherford Police, see this, see the van.
It's a license plate off and there's video of the officer who's now retired.
He left the police department.
Recounting, seeing the van, telling his sergeant, hey, I think that's the van, but it's one letter off.
They stopped the van, they being the East Rutherford Police, stopped the van on Route 3 East, heading back to New York, heading to New York.
And they ordered him out of the van.
They refused to comply.
And as they're being dragged, because they had to be removed forcefully, according to the police, they had to be pulled out of the vehicle.
And on the way to being pulled out of the vehicle, One of the occupants says to the officer, who did without prompting from the officer in his report, the person, the occupant of the van said, we are not your problem.
We are Israelis.
Your problems are the Palestinians.
Your problems are our problems.
Your problems are the Palestinians.
This is on September 11, 2001, 3:30 to 3:45 in the afternoon when people are crying, still watching the news, Terrified.
Every emotion you can think of, not knowing where your husband, your daughter, your son, your aunt, your neighbor, whether or not they made it out of the building.
Everybody knows somebody who lived down the street from somebody who used to work at the World Trade Center.
Everybody in the Northeast, in Northern New Jersey, Essex, Hudson, Bergen, Passaic County, knows somebody who worked at the World Trade Center and died.
So at 3.30, To four o'clock, none of us still know where our people are.
And these individuals, while we're still watching C-SPAN, waiting for our phones to ring, even though it wasn't until hours later that we realized the lines were jammed, you kept getting a busy signal as soon as the call went through.
So while we're still in shock and traumatized and not knowing where our sisters, our fathers, our aunts, our grandmothers, our babysitters are, our dog walkers are, over in Northern New Jersey, five men are being yanked out of a van.
And the person being yanked out of the van, his first words to the cops are not what we would usually say.
Good afternoon, officer.
Did I do anything wrong?
Is there something I did wrong?
Could you explain to me why you put?
No.
His first words were, we are Israelis.
We are not your problem.
Your problems are the Palestinians.
The Palestinians are our problems.
Now, years later, this is 2001.
I didn't know this until.
I don't know.
2009 was when I filed my first FOIA request with the FBI.
So from 2005, Alex Jones film, 2004, Loose Change 2005, 2006.
It took me five, it took me about four to five years from 2005 to 2009, 2006 to 2009.
About three to four years before I finally decided, you know what, let me, let me ask the FBI because I was asking everybody I knew.
Every activist I knew.
Oh yeah, I believe that there's videos on YouTube.
Videos on YouTube is not enough for me.
This is personal to me.
So I needed to get the answer straight from the source.
So I filed a FOIA request to the FBI and asked them for their records about intercepting Israelis, especially two Mossad spies, on 9-11.
Because it seemed like nonsense to me, Jim.
It seemed like absolute nonsense.
I'm sure somebody hearing this for the first time, it seemed like absolute BS.
Not knowing at the time, a year after the fact, this is March 2002.
There's a weekly publication that comes out every week in New York.
It's a Jewish newspaper called The Forward.
I've never heard of it before.
Maybe many of your listeners haven't either, especially if you don't live in this area, why would you?
It's pretty well known, Vance.
And I've reported on this many times in my research on 9-11, where I founded Scholars for 9-11 Truth in December 2005 and brought together hundreds of experts from around the world, but I'm loving your story.
This is just wonderful.
Continue.
It's actually, it's well known to those of us in the movement now, but then we always forget, and this is why I respected the time And the experience from standing next to activists, because after Loose Change, I started going to Ground Zero every Friday, Saturday, and Sunday.
There's Loose Change New Jersey, and then there's a young man in Jersey City, New Jersey, Glenn Zarminoff.
He's the one that got me off my butt and asked me to come out to their group in Jersey City, watch them, see what they do, and maybe offer some tips.
I don't know why the heck he asked me, because I wasn't an activist.
He just wanted another family member out there.
I guess there were maybe three or four 9-11 family members, aside from Manny Baddia, or including Manny Baddia, obviously, who were on the side of the so-called truthers.
Everywhere else they were being shouted down and called names and told they're stupid and they hate America and all this other nonsense.
So I guess to them it lended credibility to have family members standing side by side with them.
So that's why I started going to Ground Zero.
And my approach was different.
I wasn't yelling 9-11 was an inside job.
Although I did do that the first time I met Alex Jones.
Hell yes.
When I first met him, I mean, I didn't actually sit down with him, but he was on, he was at Ground Zero in 2005.
Actually, this was 2006.
This was the same time that Burmese, the makers of Loose Change was on C-SPAN calling all of America, hey, come join us in New York.
I said, hell yeah, I'll be there.
Of course.
So I brought the Northwoods documents with me, which I'm sure your listeners know.
So by the, it just, the timing was perfect.
As he was, as I was turning the corner and I could hear his voice and the young man Glenn was saying, Hey, that's Alex Jones.
He's over here.
Let's follow him.
So as I'm hearing him talking about the Northwoods documents, I said, Oh, this is perfect.
I reached in my bag and handed them to him.
So he's reading passages from the Northwoods documents to the people, to everybody who was up until that point, you know, of course he's talking to a group of supporters, but there's always those people.
In New York.
Oh, you're an idiot.
You people hate America.
Some, they shut up.
Having the documents, the proof in front of you.
So the reason why I bring that up is I'm talking to the people who are listening to your show, the truck drivers, the crossing guards, the cops, the EMTs, the doctors, the cashiers, the bartender, the waitress, the dog walker, the people who are still on the fence who don't know who, yeah, this stuff is all over the internet.
Yes.
But I got to a point in my life where I decided, if I'm going to say something, I need to treat everything like a presentation.
The moment I say something, I need to prove it, tell you where the source is, tell you where you can find the information.
It's not enough in 2024 to just say something and say, OK, well, yeah, these people know what they... No, they don't.
Because there's people alive today who weren't even born on 9-11.
And maybe somebody's stumbling through the web, looking for something to listen to, and then they stumble onto your show and go, oh, I heard about this stuff.
One of mine could be some eight, 17-year-old college kid.
18 year old high school kid.
Oh, I heard a friend talk about this, but I never really looked into it.
So when we tell these people, I always try to present this as if I'm telling somebody who's hearing it for the first time, even though I, you were in this movement long before I was, I know that.
But I just want to make clear to the people who say, Oh, well, you, that's some Palestinian rumor.
That's a Muslim rumor.
The Palestinians were celebrating in New Jersey too.
I can't say they weren't.
If I'm in one part of New Jersey, I cannot say what was going on in another part of New Jersey.
The only reason I could talk about what happened six miles from my house is because, unlike any other person who's talked about the Israelis' involvement, the Mossad's involvement with 9-11, I got off my butt and went to the police station and talked to the cops.
I wanted to meet these people.
I needed to know if this stuff was real.
Yeah, of course they didn't tell me anything other than confirming, yeah, we, you know, we met them, we pulled the guy, we encountered him, we pulled him out of the van, Yeah, they did say this, but the van was empty.
One of them is, I believe he's a captain now, or captain or lieutenant.
He's a white shirt now.
So these people protected their jobs.
This dovetails into my efforts lately.
So I've been making a video, it's about 58 minutes, criticizing tactfully though.
I don't want to go burning too many bridges, criticizing the politicians in New Jersey, Who are still being silenced.
So I start this program by saying it's been 20, it's been 23 years.
Uh, I forget the number of hours and weeks and the nine 11 coverup is still going ongoing.
So if you're a mayor in New Jersey, you're responsible.
If you're a police officer in New Jersey and you are on duty on nine 11 in Essex County, Burden County, Hudson County, you're responsible, especially to officers in New York.
All these people who say, I love America.
And I'm sure they do.
Some of them served like you.
Then joined law enforcement, but unlike you, they're protecting their jobs.
Like this human stain, Mark Rossini.
There's this program 9-11 Science and Conspiracy or Fact and Fiction or whatever.
There's a segment.
Oh, no, I'm sorry.
It's called the Spy Factory.
I'm wrong.
It's called the Spy Factory.
This retired FBI agent, Mark Rossini, is explaining his pangs of conscience and why he didn't speak up and Risk his security clearance by telling his supervisors at the Washington D.C.
FBI Bureau why he did not tell them that the so-called hijackers Nawaf al-Hamzi and Khalid al-Madar had slipped into the United States because some woman named Nancy above him overruled him.
Some woman at the Alec station, I think it was, in the CIA prevented him from telling his superiors at the FBI that the hijackers had slipped into the country.
Now, of course, it's absolute BS, this whole hijacker business.
But I don't doubt for a second that they had some assets inside of these groups, like the Mossad, who were part of this plan to blow up and destroy the world tracing in the Pentagon and set off some device in Shanksville. who were part of this plan to blow up and I don't doubt for a second that they had some people, you had to have some people on the ground to at least give this the appearance of authenticity.
But this guy, Mark Rossini, his former FBI agent, is explaining why he chose his career, not his exact words, but why he chose his career.
What he did say was, if I had broken protocol, I would have had my security clearance stripped.
I would have been escorted from the building.
I would have been breaking the law.
So I juxtapose that with the buildings burning.
Hang on, Vance.
Hang on, Vance.
We got another break.
We got another break.
Wonderful.
I'm so glad you're here.
We'll be right back with Vance Green.
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Well, my guest today is Vance Green, who's a very smart guy, intellectual truck driver, They have sorted a lot of things out, and I'm really enjoying hearing what he has to say.
Vance, go ahead.
Give us more.
Grant.
Yeah, I'm here, sorry.
Sorry, I'm here.
Go ahead.
You were muted, no doubt.
Yeah, go ahead.
Yeah.
So dovetailing on the commercial there during the break about the government's acknowledgement that 9-11 was a conspiracy, but the government also having a hand in it with the Mossad.
I want to talk to the listener, not just the people who are in the know, but maybe most of us in the know.
We always have someone, some skeptical friends, sit down and listen to a program with us and watch a program with us.
Anyone hearing my voice who's thinking, Oh my God, how could you listen to these people?
They're stupid.
They hate Jews.
They hate Jews because Jews are the chosen people.
They're God's chosen people.
You guys are just a bunch of dumb, hateful, angry anti-Semites.
The woman I just separated with for almost 15 years, we've lived together, she's Jewish.
Yeah, we did argue about this, but when I showed her the evidence, there was no more arguing.
So I didn't make the connections thoroughly because I was going all over the place.
I wish we had gotten, had not had a technical difficulty so I would have done a better job of making a coherent argument.
9-11-2001.
How do we know with any degree of certainty that the Mossad was involved?
It's a stupid assertion.
Jews, the Israelis are our friends.
It's insane for anybody to say that our friends would do anything to hurt us.
It's just ludicrous.
I urge anybody listening who knows how to use microfilm to go to the New York Public Library or any federal deposit library where you live.
Looking at stuff on the internet is one thing.
That's great.
That's fine.
Put a pin there just for a second.
To prove that everything that there is to be known is not on the internet, I have been, over the years, me and dozens, hundreds, if not thousands of other researchers have been requesting the 9-11 Commission's investigative files from the National Archives.
There's a very nice lady named Kristen Wellhelm, she works at the National Archives, who pointed out to me more than four or five years ago, and I'm sure they're still in the basement, there were Dozens of boxes from the 9-11 Commission investigation.
Yes, the investigation was BS.
Those of us who followed it, we know this.
But they had to give it this air of authenticity anyway.
The government investigated themselves and found out it did nothing wrong.
What a surprise.
But Ms.
Wilhelm pointed out to me that there were dozens of boxes from the 9-11 Commission that are not available on their website, as they are now.
The memorandums for the records, those of us who want to know what took place behind closed doors, Which, again, this kind of dovetails with the whole Chuck Schumer thing, having a commission fit, because Trump met with Putin behind closed doors.
The 9-11 Commission met with several people behind closed doors.
I didn't hear Chuck Schumer throwing a fit then.
I didn't hear him throwing a fit when Bush and Cheney insisted that they meet behind closed doors to be interviewed in private.
No cameras, no recordings, you couldn't take notes of anything.
I didn't hear a word from Chuck Schumer then.
And I have most of the video.
A good friend of mine, Willie Rodriguez, everyone knows him.
He was the last man out of the World Trade Center.
Willie has given me a lot of videos and a lot of news clips that I didn't have access to.
I have not seen one video clip of Chuck Schumer bemoaning George Bush meeting behind closed doors the way he threw a fit when Trump met behind closed doors with Putin.
But nonetheless, there are boxes, dozens and dozens of boxes from the 9-11 Commission report that are unprocessed.
Most of us are satisfied that the records are online, and we're happy to download those PDFs.
And many of us have listened to the audio files.
Oh my God, Jim, hopefully we do another follow-up one day where we just talk about just the war games and just the behind-the-scenes interview, the audio.
The memorandum for the record is one thing to knock your socks off, reading those PDF interviews.
But those are just snippets.
They're snapshots of the entire 40-minute, 90-minute, sometimes two-hour interview From people in the Air Force.
But there are dozens of boxes of 9-11 records that are not processed.
So they're not on the Internet.
Everything that there is to know about 9-11 is not on the Internet.
And that's courtesy of, that's proof from Ms.
Wilhelm at the National Archives pointing out to me that some of the stuff that I was looking for, there were references in some interviews, and I would ask her, where are these files?
Listening to this interview, this Air Force captain mentioned this, Where's his interview?
Oh, well, that interview is probably in one of these boxes.
It's a record group, whatever, and that box is unprocessed, meaning that the National Archives hasn't even gone through it yet because they don't have the staff to go through all of that material.
So when you try to discuss 9-11 with someone, and especially somebody who hasn't even bothered reading a 9-11 commission report, if you don't even know the basis of their first lie, how are you arguing with anyone, me or any other, certainly a family member, Or any activist telling us what we do and don't know and what is or is not true, when you haven't even bothered doing the most cursory, the most basic examination by even reading what the government says about 9-11.
As far as it being a conspiracy and a Mossad was involved, again, how do we know it's Jews?
We have the Bergen record from September 12, 2001.
We have the Jewish forward, March 15, 2002.
Where a Jewish reporter, Mark Pearlman, points out that after doing his due diligence, through his sources, he confirmed that two of the men in the moving van, posing as movers, were in fact Mossad spies.
March 15, 2002.
The forward.
It's on the front page.
Spy rumors, gusts on winds of truth.
I'm looking for that paper.
As we speak, but we have proof from a Jewish reporter in the New York area who also looked into this, wanted to know whether or not it was true, and did his due diligence and found out that two of the men that this Lady M saw celebrating on the day my sister and all of her co-workers were running for their lives, at least two of these men who were laughing as people, as our friends, our loved ones, were dying or trying to escape death, at least two of them We're Mossad spies.
So when, so I'm speaking specifically to the people who say, oh, you guys hate Jews.
No, I hate the two or 10 or more who were laughing while my sister was running for her life.
Those are the Jews that I hate.
Those are the Mossad people that I hate.
The ones who were laughing while people were dying.
This isn't some high school kids where we played around and we, you know, we would be walking behind our friends and we would kick their foot.
And laugh when they tripped?
No.
These were people who were dying.
There's nothing funny about 9-11.
There's photos.
The FBI has photos of these guys.
And by the way, I'm sure you know, but for the listener, the FBI's 5,000-page report about these Mossad spies here in northern New Jersey, and in Pennsylvania, by the way.
It wasn't just here.
The file is called the High Fivers.
Why?
People incorrectly call them the dancing Israelis on the Internet.
No, the FBI called them the High Fivers because there's photos of them high-fiving each other.
When people from wherever you live in America come to Giant Stadium, well it used to be Giant Stadium, it's MetLife Stadium now.
In 2001 it was Giant Stadium.
That's how you know I live in northern New Jersey, in Bergen County.
It was Giant Stadium.
It's MetLife Stadium.
So when you come here for a Taylor Swift concert or the football game or whatever, you come to the Giants Stadium for.
Vance, did we lose you?
Yeah.
Thank you.
Did we lose your friend?
Just terrific, just terrific stuff.
Uh, did we lose him?
Yeah, maybe, maybe he can come back.
I didn't have a chance to play the Bobby clip, of course, but here it is.
We hope Vance is going to rejoin us.
You know, I don't believe that there's a genocide going on, and I don't think Israel's intention is genocide.
I don't believe there's any evidence of genocide.
There is genocide going on in the Mideast, but it's a genocide of Jews, and it's a genocide of Christians, and nobody's complaining about it for some reason.
And there are much worse wars than what's happening in Gaza right now, but for some reason, People don't want to complain unless it's Jews who can be blamed.
The idea of saying that there's a genocide going on in Israel because people die in war.
And in every war that's going on in the world today, there are civilians dying.
And the average death rate, civilian to combatant death rate, according to the United Nations and the Institute for the Study of Urban Warfare at West Point is about 9 to 1.
But in Gaza, it's about 1 to 1.
Oh my goodness, I'm sorry.
Vance, I played the Bobby thing.
Listen, here's where he's saying... Let me back it up so you can hear this, and then I want you to continue.
You know, I don't believe there's a genocide going on.
And I don't think Israel's intention is genocide.
I don't believe there's any evidence of genocide.
There is genocide going on in the Mideast.
But it's a genocide of Jews.
And it's a genocide of Christians.
And nobody's complaining about it for some reason.
And there are much worse wars than what's happening in Gaza right now.
But for some reason, People don't want to complain unless it's Jews who can be claimed.
But the idea of saying that there's a genocide going on in Israel because people die in war.
And, you know, in every war that's going on in the world today, there are civilians dying.
And the average death rate, civilian to combatant death rate, according to the United Nations and to the Institute for the Study of Urban Warfare at West Point is about nine to one an In Gaza, it's about 1 to 1.
Well, they've achieved a better, they protected in the most challenging conditions, the Israeli government had, the IDF, has protected civilians better than any army in history.
John Spencer said it is the...
This is disgusting.
It is an order.
Hang on.
He's just finishing.
He's finishing.
I wanted to share that, Vince, because it's just unbelievable.
I mean, this is...
I would have taken a bullet for his father.
I was huge fans of RFK and JFK.
You know, they're among my heroes.
But to hear him mouthing, essentially, Israeli propaganda...
I mean, what an embarrassment!
He, it makes me wonder what's, who's buttering his bread, where the money's coming from.
He's a distraction too, but I'm kind of, I'm kind of glad we did that because I have a document on a screen from the National Archives that I got about the, and again this file is Jewish terrorist activities in the UK.
I sent this document to you.
This is from 1948.
This helps all of us to understand why people like Trump and RFK are pandering to the Israeli lobby.
And there's, oh, there's a, there's a genocide against Jews.
The hypocrisy here is that I'm sure RFK would say that the Ukrainians have a right to defend themselves.
against the Russian invasion.
However, the Palestinians do not have the same right to defend themselves against a Jewish invasion, to which I'm sure he or anybody else here in this would push back and say, oh, well, there's no Jewish invasion.
There's no such thing as the Palestine.
They were named the Greeks or the Philistines.
They called them the Philistines.
All this other non-historical, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, Resist the Russians, they have a right to resist occupation.
Palestinians don't have a right to resist the occupation because God gave the Jews that land.
So that, that's, that's their rationale.
The Palestinians do not have the same right to resist as the Ukrainians do.
Okay.
October 7th, was that resistance?
No, that was straight up, uh, Captain John Smith, the Indians and, and the colonists fighting I'm sure some Europeans, some Americans kidnapped some Indians.
As a matter of fact, I'm looking at this book in my living room right now from Larry McMurdy.
It's called, Oh, What a Slaughter.
And on the beginning, it's a massacre in the American West, 1846 to 1890.
So the first settlers here did the same thing to the Indians that the Jews are doing to the Palestinians.
Our so-called founding forefathers did the same thing to the British.
We used terrorism to get the people out of the land that we didn't want here.
The Palestinians were not included in negotiations pre-Balfour and post-Balfour declarations.
Nobody asked the Palestinians.
All we keep hearing is, and even truckers are saying this today, oh, well, it's because of the Holocaust.
These are the same people who would say, oh, well, no, No white person alive today had anything to do with slavery.
So we shouldn't be paying.
Nobody should be paying reparations because of slavery.
Well, guess what?
Palestinians didn't have anything to do with the Holocaust.
So why the hell are they be responsible?
The justification is, oh, well, we need to take this land and settle the Jews here because they need a homeland.
You know, Hitler wanted to send them.
So the Palestinians are not responsible for the Holocaust.
If taking people's possessions If you, me, or anyone else being carjacked, coming out of the mall or coming out of the store around December when the savages are roaming the streets looking to rob people, looking for easy victims, if them preying on us is wrong, if them, any criminal taking something from us is wrong, then how is it not wrong for Jews, the Israeli government, To take land from Palestinians.
And don't tell me this nonsense about God is the greatest real estate agent in the world, he gave them this land, you know, protest, be damned.
That's just wrong.
If taking stuff from people, if we were all taught from hopefully normal, decent, sound-minded, God-fearing parents, that taking things from people was wrong.
Most of us were taught as kids, you grew up in a two-parent household, a so-called nuclear family, Before you got to the store, you got to talk.
Don't touch anything in the store.
Don't touch anything that doesn't belong to you.
So my whole life, I've been hearing, don't touch anything that does not belong to you.
And now I'm hearing adults say, well, we can take these things that don't belong to us because God gave them this land.
God's not a real estate agent.
There's no pictures of God at Century 21, the salesman of the year, salesperson of the month, real estate agent of the month.
You can't just take stuff from people.
You can't just take stuff from people.
And then turn around and say, God said we can have it.
You know how many people?
Think of the worst prisoners that we've ever heard of.
The worst serial killer that you could think of that's on these crime programs.
Imagine if that person, imagine if Jeffrey Dahmer had said, God told me I could have these people.
God told me I could have these organs.
You would say rightfully, this guy's perfectly suited for a straitjacket.
We got a nice jacket that'll fit you, buddy.
But if you hear a group backed by our government and the UK government, which by the way, I want to tell you, I tell you this, why people are wondering, because I've been wondering, why does our government allow the Israeli government to do the things that they do?
Why, where does the power, where's this hidden power that makes people, where's the hand of JFK's, I'm sorry, RFK's, you know what, of his sphincter move in his mouth, making him say these things.
There's no genocide.
There's no evidence.
What makes these people do this?
Well, the same terrorism that the British called our founding fathers terrorists.
They used terrorism to get them to leave the United States.
The Israelis did the same thing to the British.
And this is why the British and American officials are terrified of the hidden power of the Jewish militant movement behind the Israeli government.
The Stern Gang.
So this file, one of these newspaper clippings says, I'm going to read something to you from the press edition really quick.
And I know you were in the home stretch.
We've got to wrap this up soon.
The short version is a captain named Rory Farren accidentally killed a young Palestinian child.
This is in 1948, 1949.
So this news clipping says Rex, which is Captain Ferran's brother, there's Roy Ferran, Captain Roy Ferran, and his brother Rex Ferran.
These Jewish terrorists from the Stern Gang mailed a bomb, think of 9-11 and anthrax, mailing threats, mailing substances to political figures.
Members of the Stern gang mailed a bomb to Captain Roy Faron because Captain Roy Faron was acquitted.
So this is from the press section.
I think this is May.
Oh, how fitting I read this to you.
This is May 26, 1948.
Today, this is five days after.
Rex died to save brother Roy from revenge bomb, Herald Reporter.
When Captain Roy Faron, acquitted of murdering a young Jew in Palestine, began to receive letters threatening his life, His young brother, Rex, made a resolve.
So, can't read the whole thing to you, but Rex, his young brother, Captain Roy's brother, was interceding his brother's mail.
So there's an explosion.
The brother opens the mail.
Mr. Rex Francis Farrin, 26, brother of Captain Roy Farrin, was killed this morning when he opened a parcel addressed to his brother at their home.
Houston Hills, CODSOL.
The parcel exploded and he received severe wounds in the stomach.
He was taken to hospital, but died soon afterwards with his mother and father at his bedside.
The parcel was delivered by a part-time postwoman, Ms.
Eileen Hayes of CODSOL.
It is reported to have contained a book from which the pages had been removed to make room for the explosive.
Mr. Farron was alone in the dining room when he opened it.
A younger brother, Keith, and his grandmother were elsewhere in the home.
Windows blown out.
The grandmother on hearing this explosion called Keith who found Rex severely injured but injured but conscious in the damaged room.
The walls were covered in debris and windows were blown out.
So I'm just going to skip ahead here.
The explosion occurred within three days of the first anniversary of the disappearance of the Jewish youth, Alexander Rabinowitz, a member of the Stern gang.
Captain Farron was charged with the murder of Rabinowitz in Palestine and was acquitted.
Since then, he has received many threats from the Stern Gang.
Mr. Rex Ferrin was a drowseman employed at an aircraft factory at Wolverhampton.
According to one message, the bomb was hidden inside a volume of Shakespeare's plays.
The parcel had been posted in Britain.
Captain Ferrin recently received threatening letters with the London EI postmark.
When he returned to England from Palestine last October, the Stern Gang threatened to follow him to the end of the world.
This is in a nutshell, and this is pre-USS Liberty.
It's fitting that you have me on a week before the commemoration of the USS Liberty attack, June 8th, that next Saturday.
But this is pre-USS Liberty.
The Stern gang has been sending bombs, as we know about the King David Hotel, where they set up bombs at King David Hotel to get the British military, to get the Brits to leave Palestine.
They have been mailing bombs and using bombs and blowing up and threatening public officials long before 9-11, long before USS, before the USS Liberty, long before the 93 bombing.
This is why, this is the power, this is the hidden hand that cows people like JFK, that cows people like Donald Trump, that cows our entire government, backed by the American Israeli Political Affairs Committee, backed by AIPAC.
You had to.
The Israeli government was formed by terrorists, just like ours was.
According to the British, our founding fathers were terrorists.
Anybody who fights back is considered a terrorist.
Imagine being robbed around Christmas time.
You're coming out of the mall, you got all your gifts, you got all this stuff you want to give to your family, and a bunch of thugs surround you and they rob you.
You fight back.
You resist.
They're not in control.
They don't have enough power to form a political coalition to label you a terrorist.
That's the only difference.
This power structure can call the resistors terrorists for resisting their repressive, abusive measures against them.
But you want to understand why it is our government calls to power.
It's not just because of AIPAC.
There are some other parts of this document, which I'm going to send to you.
Men of the Stern gang have actually threatened and did kill judges.
So, you know, there may be some truth to whether or not they were involved with killing Kennedy, but they have a reputation for not just threatening, but sending bombs and blowing up buildings and killing American and British political figures.
And so that's, that's how, that's how they basically kowtow our political figures.
As a possible explanation for RFK juniors.
I think you're right about so many issues.
I just really have found it a great pleasure to have you on here.
You got a big fan in me, Vance.
didn't succumb.
So, yeah, I think you're right about so many issues.
I just really have found it a great pleasure to have you on here.
You got a big fan in me, Vance.
I am your fan.
And I look forward to having you back.
I look forward to having you back.
Here's an opportunity for a final thought, Vance.
We're about to be hit with a break, end of the show.
Go ahead.
I'd love for you to have me back on.
When I get finished pouring through all these documents and I have a better understanding of them and can flow through them more succinctly and more clearly, I'd love to come back on and go through these documents with you when I get my hands on some more of them and then dovetail them to my 9-11 war games information.
The phone calls that I have had from a FOIA officer admitting to me that the lawyers at NORAD were blocking him from releasing Apollo Guardian war game exercises, and then they replaced this guy.
I'd love to come back on and talk to you about that.
The man's name was Louis Aguilar.
I'm trying to find- Count on it.
Count on it, Lance.
We'll do it again.
Meanwhile- Excellent.
Great.
Yeah, it's been sensational having you here today.
Everyone, given the imminence of what appears to be World War III on the outbreak, and honestly, I think it's going to be very short.
I don't think it'll be time to do mail-in voting because the Russians, in my anticipation, are going to be compelled to do an all-out launch.
Just remember my words.
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