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Nov. 28, 2022 - Jim Fetzer

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ARIZONA et al. ELECTION(S) COULD BE NULLIFIED

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	So if you have an uncertified machine and you put a ballot through it, is there some way an uncertified machine can create a certified vote on the other end?
	You cannot.
	And so if these are uncertified ballots, you cannot certify an election.
	People may go through the motions, they may play an act, but lawfully, it's an uncertified election.
	And this is serious business, not only in the state of Arizona, but with every state across the United States that has adopted the HAVA Act.
	This same problem applies because it's the same voting machines and it's the same test labs.
	There are only two test labs that do this.
	So it's the same two test labs that travel around the United States to certify voting machines.
	And if both were expired, then the problem permeates across the United States.
	And this is something that I believe can change not only our election, but other states' elections.
	But people have to take a look at the laws and in the case of Arizona, it's Arizona revised statute 16-442B as in Bravo.
	16-442B as in Bravo says that the voting machines must, not shall, must be certified.
	They must be certified.
	Well, by who?
	By an accredited test lab.
	An accredited test lab.
	Not an expired accreditation, but accredited.
	And these labs were not.
	And this can turn into, I think, a great blessing for our country.
	And we pray that this information gets out, people come to understand it, and we'll do something about it.
	And the people need to stand up.
	It can't be just five guys on the front lines.
	People have to stand up about this fact and bring it.
	All right, Michael Schaefer has been looking into some of the anomalies leading Michael Schaefer has been looking into some of the anomalies leading up to and during the election in Arizona, specifically Maricopa and
	And he joins us now to discuss what it is he's found.
	And I do believe, like I had been saying, there will be a little bit of a fight in Arizona.
	Definitely Carrie Lake's campaign pushing back, but other investigative journalists' analysis are finding some odd stuff too.
	And that's why right now, they've even said there were so many problems, they're going to pause certification.
	So, Michael Schaefer joins me now.
	I mean, Michael, all the anomalies, the voting machines shutting down, the people being turned away.
	I mean, what is the biggest story right now, from your perspective, out of Maricopa County?
	I think the biggest stories, Owen, and thank you for having me, are ones that can lead to the nullification of the elections, not only in Arizona, but as many as 34 other states that support the Help America Vote Act, known as the HAVA Act.
	I think the solutions, the path there, is the most important thing we can be talking and hear about.
	So talk about that, because that's not something that I really hear much about.
	Appreciate that.
	So I happen to own a laboratory which is accredited to the ISO standards, the same standards that the test labs receive an accreditation to.
	They have another accreditation that pertains to the HAVA Act and the EAC, the Election Assistance Commission.
	And if we go back in time, 2018, their accreditations had expired when the voting machines were certified.
	So if you're not accredited, you can't certify.
	If your accreditation has expired or you don't have an accreditation, it's just like if you and your girlfriend go to your neighbor and say, will you marry us?
	And he's not an ordained pastor or chaplain, you're not married.
	Pretend you're married.
	You may think you're married, but you're not.
	So it's like an expired driver's license, kind of?
	Yes, you can't drive.
	If your police badge is withdrawn, you can't go do police work.
	It's like anything, but realtors, if you lose your license, you can't sell real estate on and on and on.
	We understand that very well.
	And so these labs had expired accreditations and they I'm not sure how they represented themselves, and I'm not sure why our Secretary of State didn't figure this out, but... You're talking about Katie Hobbs, Secretary of State?
	Yes.
	Oh, how convenient.
	That's Secretary of State.
	I don't know how she didn't figure it out either.
	Well, going back to 2018, she ran against a man by the name of Steve Gaynor, who also recently was in the primaries for a governor seat.
	So the two of them ran this race.
	Those machines were not certified.
	They cast the boats through the machines and Steve Gaynor won the election the night of the election.
	Ducey, the governor, congratulated him according to the story that I've heard.
	And he woke up the next day to find out that something very unusual had happened during the course of the evening.
	Ballots came from somewhere and changed the election from Steve Gaynor to Katie Hobbs.
	That show, she won her first election and became Secretary of State.
	So, fast forward into 2020.
	The labs had not updated their accreditations, but what had happened, and we have a team of great people that have been keeping eyes on this over the years, these published accreditations, interestingly, had changed information.
	So they went from a two-year to a three-year accreditation.
	The problem with that is the law and the rules under the VSTL manual in accordance with NIST are two years.
	So you can't have a three-year accreditation.
	Over further time if you look at and investigate this there were signatures that were signed the accreditations that according to the manual were not allowed to sign those accreditations and so that the facts have changed over the period of time to try to go back in time and make what was right or sorry what was wrong right and you can't go back in time according to the maxim maxims of law change something in the future and make it apply backwards and make something
	That happened that was unlawful in the past become right.
	So if you just connect the dots, so machines are not accredited because the accreditation labs were not accredited at that time.
	So they're technically not certified.
	So if you have an uncertified machine and you put a ballot through it, is there some way an uncertified machine can create a certified vote on the other end?
	You cannot.
	And so if these are uncertified ballots, you cannot certify an election.
	People may go through the motions, they may play an act, but lawfully, it's an uncertified election.
	And this is serious business, not only in the state of Arizona, but with every state across the United States that has adopted the HAVA Act.
	This the same problem applies because it's the same voting machines and it's the same test labs.
	There are only two test labs that do this.
	So it's the same two test labs that travel around the United States to certify voting machines.
	And if both were expired, then the permeates across the United States.
	And this is something that I believe can change not only our election, but other states elections.
	But people have to take a look at the laws and in the case of Arizona, it's Arizona revised statute 16-442B as in Bravo.
	16-442B as in Bravo says that the voting machines must, not shall, must be certified.
	They must be certified.
	Well, by who?
	By an accredited test lab.
	An accredited test lab.
	Not an expired accreditation, but accredited.
	And these labs were not.
	And this can turn into, I think, a great blessing for our country.
	And we pray that this information gets out.
	People come to understand it.
	And we'll do something about it.
	And the people need to stand up.
	It can't be just five guys on the front lines.
	The people have to stand up about this fact and bring it.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	And I think that there's certainly some fight in Arizona.
	I don't know anywhere else right now.
	But Arizona, it looks like there's definitely going to be at least a little bit of a fight there.
	But I don't want to rehash the past.
	It's just I listen to you say all this stuff and it just reminds me.
	This is essentially, without the exact details, but overall, it's essentially the exact same thing that happened in 2020, where all these different states basically illegally changed, unconstitutionally changed the way that they can accept and take ballots from the mail-in ballots to the drop boxes, all unconstitutional, but they just said under color of law, under color of law and COVID, that we're going to be taking these ballots.
	And that's why President Trump said, now, wait a second.
	These are unconstitutional votes.
	They shouldn't be counted.
	And this is what they wanted investigated on January 6th.
	Of course, we know the rest of the story there.
	But I just can't help hearing everything you're saying.
	It like echoes the same story from then.
	But let's bring it to today.
	This is the relevant story.
	How much interest is there from your analysis here?
	How much interest is there from the attorney general in Arizona or rather even the entire nation, attorneys general?
	How much interest is there to actually look at this?
	So the team that I work alongside, this team has given this information to the attorney general's office one or multiple times.
	I've spoken to Jennifer Wright at the Attorney General's office about it.
	We've had it in front of Senator Fan.
	The head of the House, or Senate rather, we've had it in front of Rusty Bauer, the head of our House here in Arizona.
	It's been read on the floor of the House in Arizona.
	It's been submitted into the documentation of both the Senate and the House in Arizona.
	We've taken it to and approached the sheriffs, who we asked to, on the basis of this, investigate it.
	And if you need to, seize the voting machines.
	I've been willing to seize the voting machines, which are tools and instruments of a stolen election.
	So we have gone up and down.
	We think the gamut it's gone in front of the courts.
	Uh, for six times, Daniel Woods was a candidate that has brought the suit multiple times, along with some other team members.
	The suit's been rejected from the courts.
	The judges do not want to hear it.
	And to your point before, is that if the government is not doing their job.
	They work for the people.
	They are our servants and constitutionally, they, we, the people need to decide that they need to be removed and have an opportunity to reform a government at every level.
	And I think that this is where the skill is going for the people who have to stand up to make these changes.
	Let me ask you after this break, we'll be right back.
	Four minute break.
	Let me ask you how you think this might apply or apply it to nationwide with the voting systems.
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	Michael Shaver is with us breaking down why the Arizona elections need to be contested.
	And these are basic, I mean, we're not even talking about conspiracy theories here or shenanigans on election days, but just straight up law where the lack of certification of these machines, I mean, this isn't a conspiracy theory.
	I mean, I don't know how you would try to explain this to people.
	This is just...
	It's just basic law.
	I mean, and they don't even they don't even use it.
	But you're also talking about how this could apply to other states as well.
	So just kind of recap how this is just basic law not being followed, not conspiracy theory, not voter problems during the election day or any of that stuff, but just basic law not being followed and then get into how this might apply to other states that may be doing the same thing.
	Yes, this is just a simple element of law.
	If I Drive too fast?
	I break the law?
	I have a penalty to pay.
	In this case, a law was broken.
	The voting machines must be certified by an accredited test lab.
	They weren't.
	Simple as that.
	We have the evidence to show that.
	So the votes can't be certified.
	They're uncertifiable.
	And like it or not, it's a nullified election.
	Then it's a re-vote and it's a hand count.
	It's a very simple solution.
	Nullify, re-vote, and hand count.
	of paper ballots.
	Simple as that.
	They've been doing it for hundreds of years.
	No reason we can't restart that.
	The machines steal the elections in many different ways.
	So the HAVA Act, the Help America Vote Act, has been adopted across the United States.
	And it's my belief that it could be as many as 34 states.
	So people look up in your revised statutes to see if your state has adopted the HAVA Act.
	And if so, this law likely applies to you.
	And it's the same test labs testing all across the country.
	It would apply to you.
	And you could assert this as well in your states.
	So I encourage you all to investigate the HAVA Act, whether or not your state has it.
	And if it does, then what we're doing, you can do.
	This is happening down in Cochise, where the Secretary State's office says, don't worry, it's all certified.
	Don't worry about it.
	Well, Cochise said, well, time out.
	Bring us the evidence.
	Bring us the evidence.
	And so we're looking forward to seeing what evidence is brought at that point in time about these voting machines.
	So tune in to Cochise County, Arizona, a meeting on Monday, 10 a.m.
	Arizona time.
	Also available on Zoom.
	If you search the Cochise County meetings, you can find that on the web and just determine what Zoom meeting.
	If you want to participate, you can come in and see what's happening there.
	You can also contact us.
	Email 2020isnullified at pm.me at pmpapamike.me.
	Mike Echo.
	Um, we have a website, 2020isnullified.com.
	You can check in there and we'll try to keep everybody informed as to what's happening here.
	There, there are boots on the ground here trying to assimilate, pull this all together to support.
	And, um, you know, we intend this to bring this, um, into the courts again.
	And we just prayerfully ask that these judges do their jobs and listen to what's happened here in Arizona.
	And make decisions for the people.
	Otherwise they're in violation of our constitution.
	They're in violation of the oath of their office and their duties and responsibilities.
	And we have a right as a people to overthrow such government.
	That's not doing their job.
	So we appreciate your time and attention today.
	We hope you've taken some notes.
	We hope that we can help you in some way.
	And we are.
	I'm convinced that this can change the outcome of the elections across the United States and potentially even go backwards to earlier elections that were similarly approved when they were in fact nullified.
	Well, thank you for laying all that out, and folks, that last, you know, 60 to 120 seconds that he just laid out is so important.
	Take that information that he just gave you, how to reach out, how to get involved, and share that far and wide so that we can at least get some more eyes and more ears and more attention on this, and the right decision can be made here.
	And so, what I like to do, though, is whenever I'm kind of trying to ballpark these things and get my foresight, I'll ask myself, if I'm a gambling man, what do I think will happen?
	Because, you know, you tend to forget your biases when you're talking about, you know, putting skin in the game.
	Michael, if you're a gambling man, how do you think this goes?
	Well, it's been an uphill battle, and I'll tell you why.
	What's missing, not only all the legislators, the sheriffs, the judges, what's missing is the people.
	When we go to the Board of Supervisors, as I did last week, Um, and worked with a great guy, Matt, who interviewed me, and he's got dreadlocks and I've got a suit, and it's two people like that working together.
	We need to work together as a people.
	Think back, what did our founders do?
	They came together, folks.
	We have to come together.
	The churches, You all, the pastors, have got to inform and educate your church, your people.
	Our people have got to come to these things.
	If we have a Trump rally in town, there's 50,000 people.
	If we're going to nullify the election, there's 15, 20 of us.
	We have got to stand up, people.
	This is your country.
	This is our country.
	And if we don't do something about it now, there's nothing that's changing in these future elections.
	We've got to fix this election.
	We have to nullify it.
	And we have to re-vote.
	It's been done many times in the history of the country.
	Re-votes.
	You can look up re-vote elections and find cases where this has occurred.
	You have to, you can't contact our legislators.
	They're not doing anything.
	The sheriffs are not doing anything.
	The judges are not doing anything.
	And we just pray that the hand of God's on us as we come together in his name to affect things here in our country, to save our country, like our founders did from the British.
	Well, we'll be praying for you and and we'll be praying that you get the people support you need to hopefully right this this terrible wrong and then use that as a as a precedent and a case example of how it wasn't just limited to Arizona.
	Michael, thank you so much for joining me today.
	Yeah.
	God bless you.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	All right, ladies and gentlemen.
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	More so than we've seen in the past, absolutely.
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