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	And now, the event. - Well, we're certainly delighted today to have as our featured guest, a dear friend of mine, who's done brilliant work abroad a wide range of subjects, He's a historian of science primarily.
	He contributed to the Encyclopedia of Astronomers, the entry on Isaac Newton, Easily historically the most important figure.
	He's also an expert on false flags.
	His book Terror on the Tube is sensational.
	Crack the case where he discovered that the train from Luton on which the four young lads had been enticed to participate in the drill That would have had to take to be at the tube stops in time for the explosions which took place as scheduled according to the drill.
	He also has published chronicles of false flag terror about 13 fake staged events in Europe and across the scene in a book that's highly explosive about the life and death of Paul McCartney.
	Nick, I'm so delighted to have you here with us today.
	We know you have a Hello Jim, and it's great to meet your other distinguished guests here.
	here for an hour.
	We want to take full advantage of that.
	My friend, welcome to the event.
	Hello, Jim.
	And it's great to meet your other distinguished guests here.
	I look forward to our discussion.
	Yeah.
	Nick, I think we have to begin with a perception from Europe of what's going on in Ukraine.
	The divergent views are hugely different.
	I have an interview with a friend from Armenia, now residing in South Dakota, who believes that Putin is a globalist, that this is all prearranged.
	Well, I have an alternative, Joaquin Hagopian.
	I'm just publishing a piece on my blog suggesting Ukrainians are welcoming the Russians as, you know, liberating the nation.
	The demonization of Putin has given Joe Biden an excuse not to focus on the calamities here in the United States, where it's overwhelmingly obvious he cares more about the border of Ukraine than he does of the United States.
	Your thoughts, my friend?
	Well, Russia today has just vanished from the airwaves this afternoon, like they said it would, and that was the one, you know, the one decent TV program, really.
	I've been very pro-Russian over the years, and I think Putin has really tried hard to get friendship between Europe and Russia, and Britain and America have set up deceptive events, I've noticed over the last 10 or 15 years, always to try and blame Russia.
	The book I've just been doing recently, I'll just show it, it's about full stories of poisoning with Novichok, with Skripal, and allegations that Russians were poisoning people, which I don't think were sound.
	So it's as if now he's being cast as the Bond villain, you know, how wicked he is, And nobody here tries to look at the Russian point of view.
	Why did the Russians go into Ukraine on 22-22?
	Why did they storm in?
	And particularly interest from our point of view here, how come it was predicted all through December and January, all the media, what Joe Biden said and Zelensky said, the Russians are going to invade, as it may be in January.
	And people were bewildered by this.
	Why did anyone think the Russians would invade Ukraine?
	And they were totally definite this was going to happen.
	And I don't think, for example, Lavrov had any intention of Russia invading Ukraine.
	And then we saw what happened in February.
	The bombardment of eastern Ukraine, Belarus and Lugansk, these two self-declared independent republics, The shelling which has gone on for eight years, which is systematic genocide of a people, is racially different from the rest of Ukraine.
	They're basically Russians, they're Slavs.
	And that bombardment was intensified.
	And partly because Joe Biden gave three billion dollars of lethal aid to Ukraine.
	And so they've got more terrible weapons with which to shell these self-declared republics.
	And this is just shelling of villages, of people.
	And in those republics, most people who can afford to leave have left.
	They've had hundreds of thousands of refugees flee to Russia.
	And that was intensifying.
	I was watching a program whereby women and children were being told to leave to go to Russia and the men were staying behind to fight.
	And that basically precipitated the Russian invasion.
	The Russians couldn't just stop and do nothing.
	They had to come in and demand what was supposed to have happened eight years ago.
	OK, they signed the Minsk Treaty.
	2014, which was co-signed by France and Germany.
	That was a peace formula.
	It was to stop the bombardment and agree to exist as one country, but with some degree of independence of these eastern little mini-states.
	They're too small to really exist by themselves.
	Europe didn't lift a finger to enforce that treaty.
	But they made no effort to enforce it and that is why we're in the catastrophic situation now.
	So I would say that is why Putin did it and the amazing thing, and you asked about European response, is that it takes absolutely no notice of this.
	The ongoing genocide, it's an ethnic cleansing process, We only hear about it in Russia today, the Russian TV channel, okay?
	I don't know, you in America, you probably don't hear about it at all.
	I mean, it's been estimated about 15,000 people have been killed by the shelling in the eastern Ukraine.
	And recently, after Russia recognized these too many states, apparently a million people from those two states have applied Russian passports.
	So it's a process of destroying a whole culture.
	And that part of Eastern Ukraine was the industrial hub of Ukraine.
	I think it was the most affluent part.
	There was a whole lot of high-tech industry going on there until 2014.
	That was when the catastrophe, this far-right Nazi government, neo-Nazi government, took power, which started from then on.
	It's been shelling its own people, okay?
	And this process is amazingly unreported in our media.
	I don't know if you hear about it at all, Jim. - Pretty much not, Nick.
	I think you're absolutely right.
	The American media is so totally controlled.
	It's nothing but endless propaganda, anti-Russian propaganda, the desire to change the focus from the state of the Union here in America to the state of the world, namely Russia, Ukraine, where
	The history here suggests that this ought to be known as Victoria Nuland's war, because of the coup that was executed in Ukraine by Victoria Nuland in 2014 to depose a pro-Russian president and replace him with a Western stooge.
	I agree with you 100%.
	I've been very pro-Russian myself.
	I admire Vladimir Putin.
	And he has been protesting the endless violations by NATO and the West of the solemn agreements entered into when the Soviet Union dissolved, and then Secretary of State James Baker guaranteed the West would not encroach one single inch to the east, which we've grossly violated.
	I think the morality, legality, and history are all on the side of Putin.
	Yeah, I mean, we're coming up to what a lot of people see in World War Three.
	If you've got more and more NATO hardware, military hardware, right up against the border of Russia, and you've got rockets targeting Moscow just a few hundred miles away, this is a totally unstable situation.
	I mean, if we want any peace in Europe to exist, we've got to have neutral states.
	A whole lot of little mini-states on the border of Russia that used to be part of the old There was something called Warsaw Pact, and that was the opposite of NATO, and that was a sort of buffer states.
	We need buffer states that are neutral, that are not pro-American, pro-NATO and not pro-Russian.
	It seems to me that if Europe's going to survive this, through the machismo of NATO, That we need something like that.
	And the question is, what Russia wanted was for Ukraine to exist as an independent state in between East and West.
	And that will be a kind of peace formula.
	That's what we had until 2014.
	So it's a question now.
	Putin did this.
	And so it's a question now.
	We had, Putin did this.
	He came in to rescue these two states.
	Whole lot of Russian troops went into those two states.
	And then it seems to me that, seems to many people, that he overreached himself.
	He's storming right across Ukraine now to Kiev, the capital city, and that's not really allowed under international law.
	Under international law, invading a sovereign nation, that's your neighbor, and going right across the capital city Apparently, we don't know quite what the war aim is.
	This is a terrifying thing.
	You don't know quite what it is the Russians are wanting to do, because are they not going beyond the original stated war aim, you see?
	That's what everyone's bewildered by, and I think that's why Russia received such universal condemnation around the world.
	I mean, we had a Security Council vote a few days ago, which was 11 to 1 against, with China abstaining.
	I think a General Assembly resolution is coming up that will be The whole world is going to condemn Russia.
	In fact, in our lifetime, have we ever seen the world so unified as it is now, with everyone condemning what Putin's doing?
	It's as if Putin has made this mistake of overreaching himself, although we sympathize with his motive.
	Has he not gone too far in wanting... I mean, just listen to what he said his war aims were.
	He wanted to denazify the government of Ukraine.
	Well, I mean, that's not a legitimate war aim, is it?
	Especially if you've got a couple of Jews running the country, you know.
	And he then said he wanted to hold trials for people who are criminally guilty.
	Or he wanted to neutralise, have a neutral country.
	Well, you can want these things, but you can't achieve that by, you're not allowed to achieve that by invading a sovereign state.
	Although I appreciate Britain and America do it all the time.
	So, I can't see he's got an exit strategy.
	I think this is the ghastly situation now.
	The Russians have moved in, they're storming across the whole of Ukraine and all of the world is supporting Ukraine.
	I can't see how Putin can win this one.
	Scorpio, let me bring you in right away here with our dear guest.
	your thoughts Scorpio Oh, yes.
	Well, thank you.
	Well, Nick, I think we've talked once before sometime back.
	Nice to meet you and talk with you.
	You know, my take on this is a little different.
	First of all, I think the level of deception from all sides we're seeing on this is really hard to unpack.
	I'm having a real problem with even believing that Russia is actually invading or about to invade Kiev.
	I don't see any credible signs of this.
	I think we're being led down the primrose path.
	I'm not seeing any indication of a real fighting war going on anywhere other than maybe in the eastern portion of the country.
	So, I'm just staggered by what's going on and, you know, this so-called, you know, world unity seems awfully orchestrated as well.
	You know, I was driving down the freeway last night near Los Angeles and I saw a big, you know, illuminated, you know, billboard Uh, saying, uh, we stand with Ukraine.
	Uh, so, you know, this off, this whole thing seems like a show to me.
	And, uh, unfortunately I'm beginning to think that, uh, Vladimir Putin somehow is part of this, this deception.
	And this is, um, a.
	A huge attempt to essentially destroy the economies of the West and really slow the economy down worldwide and do some serious damage to actual, the real economy and then spur on the need for green energy.
	I mean, if they remove Russian oil and gas from the market, We're going to see incredibly high gas and oil prices.
	This is going to be mind-boggling.
	So what are your thoughts on this?
	Because I'm just not seeing any real indication of a real war happening.
	You know, I'm just not.
	So maybe you could comment on that.
	Yeah, well, I do see that.
	There's lots of reports in the news of Kiev, this and that, but other people say, no, this just isn't happening.
	And, as you say, it's terribly difficult to ascertain.
	There's supposed to be a whole load of Russian tanks driving along the main highway, about to reach Kiev, but I mean, who knows?
	But there certainly is an extraordinary orchestration of fake images and bogus pictures, which I suppose is just part of the modern world.
	We expect that with anything to do with Britain and America, don't we?
	Yes, and Nick, you know, the other thing that I'm seeing that's just really strange is they keep showing, oh, you know, the Russians are bombing this city and that city, and I'm not seeing any direct hits on the buildings.
	I'm seeing damage, but like, if you're really, I mean, the Russians aren't stupid.
	If you really want to blow up something, you do a direct hit and pretty much level the whole building.
	I'm just seeing buildings that have some minor damage to them.
	With lots of rubble out in front, and there's always lots of burned cars put out in front of the building as well.
	So, you know, I'm not sure what to make of all this, but I'm not buying the narrative at all on either side.
	No, well, I think we need to focus on the one thing that is kind of supremely important here.
	It's an ongoing genocide, and that really, really is happening.
	And if you walk down Donetsk or these bombed out towns in the east, You see all the shattered, broken homes, churches, schools, public buildings and a few old people still there who can't afford to leave.
	This really is the destruction of whole culture and it is so extraordinary and amazing the way the West has just decided to gloss over this and just let it happen and make a hero Admire the government that's doing it, and supply arms to the government while it's still doing this.
	All the prattling about human rights is just allowing this to happen.
	I could just point out a sort of subtle legal argument here.
	Normally, if a small bit of a country votes to be independent, it can't just have a vote and then break away.
	That's not allowed, okay?
	like Texas couldn't just vote to be succeed for America, could it?
	But these two little, for example, if Scotland voted to be independent of England, of Great Britain, United Kingdom, it could.
	Right?
	If it had a vote for independence, that would be recognised because Scotland long existed as an independent nation entity before it became part of the United Kingdom.
	So it'll be allowed to separate.
	And the same goes for Crimea.
	Crimea was, you know, for 100 years, it was a federation not affiliated with Ukraine.
	And that is why If you accept that, it was legitimate for it to vote to become separate and rejoin the Russian Federation.
	That seems to me a legal, legitimate point of view.
	Let's bear in mind that the main government, Kiev, is cut off all electricity and water and gas and finance from these eastern republics.
	There's no pensions, no social security, There's just a barrier and the only thing that the main government is providing is shelling the country.
	So, de facto, the main Kiev government was treating these mini-states as being separate.
	It wasn't treating them as part of the same country.
	So, from that point of view, they've got a perfect right to declare themselves independent.
	And the other thing is that the Minsk Agreement, that was the peace formula in 2014, That was co-signed by these two little states, republics.
	And they argue the fact that they got to co-sign this international treaty means that their independence was recognized.
	Does that make sense?
	So, from that point of view, Russia then recognized them quite recently, immediately before.
	And from that point of view, they have got a legal right to declare that they are independent people's republics.
	And then, obviously, immediately Russia recognised them.
	They then invited Russian troops in.
	So, legally, it was not an invasion.
	It was Russian troops being invited in by these two little mini-states.
	And I think that was all perfectly legal and actually rather admirable.
	Normally, we're always used to Russia being very scrupulous about international law and adhering to treaties, it seems to me.
	Someone like Lavrov, Sergei Lavrov, is very scrupulous about treaty adherence.
	And so that's why it's rather baffling what the Russians seem to be doing now.
	They're becoming the bad guys.
	The Nuremberg Principles, 1947 or something, they define a war of aggression as being the worst crime.
	They tried to define it as the worst international crime of all, they said, a war of aggression.
	And everybody seems to feel what Russia is doing now looks like a war of aggression, storming across If you omit the fact that they're there to try and rescue these Slavs, the whole culture of Eastern Ukraine, then it does look like a war of aggression, doesn't it?
	From one point of view, Ukraine is a country that I'm not sure if it should really exist, because the two sides of it are so different culturally, the East and the West.
	Can they really get on together? - Well, Dr. Callstrom, I'm a huge fan of your work In fact, this guy wrote a book, Breaking the Spell, and that's what we need now, I think, because it seems like the average citizen of the first world is entranced by just watching this.
	You're probably familiar with that famous movie of, I don't know, 20 years ago called Wag the Dog, where essentially Robert De Niro and I think it was Dustin Hoffman, they essentially created a fake war on TV that everybody believed.
	And this appears to me to be Wag the Dog 2, the sequel.
	And none of this makes sense, just like you're outlining, unless you pull back and look at the globalist, the Rothschild control of this world via the globalist media, control of their traitorous operatives in every first control of their traitorous operatives in every first world government,
	And you pull back and you see, well, how does this relate to the so-called Great Reset, the Build Back Better with the small b's as sixes, 666, the New World Order, the big push that began in earnest a little over two years ago.
	How do you relate Putin's actions to that idea that this is all part of the same psyop by the World Economic Forum, which are the operatives of the Rothschild globalist empire?
	Right.
	Right.
	I mean, we saw it was a woman.
	In the news yesterday she was beseeching our Prime Minister Bojo to set up a no-fly zone and she was very passionate and tears and stuff and turns out she was one of the World Economic Forum protégés of grooming these young politicians for tomorrow and she was one of Klaus Schwab's young influence makers of tomorrow.
	They're working hard on this.
	And as you say, it's it's all just it's so much image and presentation that we hardly know.
	We don't really know what's going on, do we?
	Certainly not when RT is cut off.
	I think RT was the one, you know, credible, fairly credible account of what was going on.
	And they've just been taken off the air today.
	Right.
	And that is a major Well, it means that all the stations are seeing from the same hemisphere, really, isn't it?
	They're all giving the Empire's point of view.
	So we're getting a very restricted perspective on what's happening.
	I was slow to pick up on the wag the dog ass, but I think you and Scorpio and Giuseppe have been right on top of this.
	That's exactly right.
	The propagandistic use of video, some of which is ancient, showed a Ukrainian soldier being crucified that turns out to be from this neo-Nazi brigade of Ukraine itself.
	I mean, there's a lot of horror stories coming out here that is fabricated to create a a monolithic impression of what's taking place.
	Whereas you observed that RT being shut down.
	That's just the opposite of what should be taking place.
	If there were interest in discerning the truth and sorting this out, which of course there is not on the part of the mainstream.
	Your point about this being a Clown Schwab stooge is very telling.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I mean, let's all, let's remember this very deep history here, which us that are all probably quite ignorant.
	If you go back to the 9th century, Kiev was where the first beginning of Rus, what was called Rus, the peoples of Rus, which became Russia and also Belarus.
	It goes back to the original kind of nucleus was in this very area.
	So there's terrific ancient history of Russia in the Ukraine, in this area.
	This is a country, In Vladimir Putin's words, I think he said, it's put together by Lenin.
	So it was given its modern borders and also around World War Two, it was a time of most frightful trauma, the Holzmer, about seven million people were killed.
	So there was some really, really killed and so there's amazing horror in this part of the world and trauma that has to heal slowly.
	It has to be allowed to heal.
	We have to go over what were the issues that really, you know, who's responsible and so on and try to find some degree of sovereignty in this country
	I feel America just came in, in a very glib kind of way, and America's interest is always how to break up Russia, you know, how to get at Russia, and I would say they haven't got a lot of real interest in the people of Ukraine, whereas other countries around it possibly do.
	Mike Whitney has published them.
	Yeah, we'll be right back with Nick Colerstrom after this break.
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	Well, Nick, Mike Whitney has published a brilliant piece suggesting that the real target is not Ukraine, but Germany.
	That this is all engineered to sabotage the Nord Stream 2 pipeline, which would create very tight economic commercial relations between Russia and Germany.
	And if that happens and those relations improve, as would be inevitable under those circumstances, there's no use for NATO, expensive US military equipment, the United States is left on the side with regard to European security because there's no need for these extravagant expenditures.
	I think he put his finger on the key.
	Your thoughts?
	Totally, yeah.
	Absolutely, Jim.
	America saw, with this whole Nord Stream 2 pipeline, there was a grave danger of world peace breaking out.
	I mean, friendship between Russia and Germany is the one thing that America cannot possibly endure.
	Those two great nations, both heavily vilified and ethically damned by the axis of evil, Britain and America.
	If those two nations were to become friendly, and that's what would start to happen if the pipeline flowed, A huge source of natural gas for Germany at a low price.
	And Germany desperately needs it because it's abandoned its nuclear power plants, hasn't it?
	And closed its coal mines.
	And it's chased this pipe dream of green energy, which doesn't really supply very much.
	So it desperately needs this gas pipeline.
	And the trouble is, Germany isn't really a sovereign nation.
	It's just occupied from the last world war.
	with American troops, British troops, theoretically French troops and Russian troops.
	It has no peace treaty of its own.
	So it's very difficult for Germany, almost impossible, to reach sensible sovereign decisions in its own interest.
	It can be very easily manipulated by Britain and America.
	And that's what's happening there.
	America did everything it could to stop the pipeline being completed.
	And now it's complete, they're figuring out how to stop it being
	are used and switched on and they said oh it's got to be checked and inspected and certified and everything so that was all going on and uh so i think as you say jim we should appreciate the timing of this whole new war this totally brewed up intentionally created uh conflict um first of all it's to stop as you say it's a pressure germany to stop it accepting the russian pipeline
	And there's also another feature, I'll just point out, is the whole Covid narrative was just collapsing.
	We've had two years of this mad derangement, as if there's some dreadful new disease and you all need to get vaccinated.
	And it really didn't exist, did it?
	It was just the flu.
	And there was a danger, a whole lot of turret backlash there, a whole lot of people being fed up, saying, hang on, why are we wearing all these masks all the time?
	And what's the point of these vaccines?
	And what are these vaccines anyway?
	I think there's a lot of danger of that.
	And especially in this country, there was no excess mortality this year at all, quite the opposite.
	And I think they needed some distraction.
	And we certainly got it.
	This whole thing suddenly switched over for a bad, evil Putin.
	And Covid's gone off the headlines.
	So I think the timing, by what I mentioned before, in December and January, there was continual statements that Russia was about to invade.
	This was all timed and blueprinted.
	And Germany's been put under this pressure now.
	American diplomats, politicians like Madeleine Albright, correctly understood that if they could get this war going, then Germany would not switch on the pipeline.
	And as you say, a lot of people believe this whole thing was therefore brewed up very much in order to stop that happening, which is America's top priority.
	Scorpio, your thoughts?
	Well, yeah, Nick, I think you're hitting on some important points here.
	We can't overlook the timing here of, you know, just as the COVID narrative is collapsing.
	You know, isn't it amazing how we had, you know, two years of, oh, well, if you don't get the shot, you're going to die of COVID.
	It's extremely dangerous.
	We have to shut down the economy because of it.
	Sorry, guys.
	And now it's like, well, it's a bad case of the sniffles.
	Learn to live with it.
	Learn to live with COVID forever.
	It's no big deal, though.
	It's just amazing the switch that went on and then at the same exact time this war starts.
	I don't think we can overlook that and dismiss it as coincidence.
	So that bothers me quite a bit and I just see a massive orchestration going on and the other key thing you're talking about is the pipeline.
	I heard yesterday that the owners of Nord Stream 2 have already declared bankruptcy and fired all their employees, which I find to be awfully sudden.
	I mean so quick to declare bankruptcy.
	Yeah, I mean this whole, everything we're seeing, It just seems to me to be a show, and orchestrated in this whole unity of the world against Russia.
	This is a show, and I'm just seeing that the governments that we are shown on television, really, it just seems to be for public consumption only, and the real power is behind the scenes.
	These governments are all toothless tigers, and there's something else driving the train here.
	What are your thoughts?
	Yeah, bear in mind, that is the world's longest gas pipeline, isn't it?
	And it was Germany that originally asked for it.
	Russia built it, mainly, but it was Germany who asked for it.
	So it's quite mad to build this absolutely vast pipeline and then politicize it as if gas flowing had some political implication or might change some political position, which it won't.
	Well, I don't think it will, really.
	So it is extraordinary the way it's being used, but it was very much the position of Britain before this war broke out.
	Britain was trying to persuade Germany not to switch it on.
	Britain has been working hard to declare Russia as the enemy since, I think, about 2015 or 2017.
	That they've actually declared Russia was an enemy.
	We thought that was all over, you know?
	We thought that the Cold War was a thing of the past, of the last century.
	And why did it suddenly come back again?
	But when it did, we got terrific demonization of Russia.
	We've had it about the last five years, haven't we?
	Suddenly, for no particular reason, it's the New Age, and Putin keeps being accused of things that I think are rather not very sound.
	Your point about the bankruptcy and firing the employees is just staggering, Nick.
	That means whoever was in charge of the position to do that was in on it.
	I mean, this is just disgusting.
	How would you be able to reconstitute the company under those circumstances?
	I find that very, very telling.
	Yeah, yeah, right.
	And it's awfully sudden, you know.
	abrupt, right?
	I mean, my presumption was the Chancellor was just going to put it on hold until Ukraine blew over, and in a couple of weeks he'd go forward with a certification process, not that this was the end of the line.
	The timing is just incredible.
	Giuseppe, Giuseppe, join the conversation.
	I think that Scorpio and Nick are making the excellent point, and I would harken back to we had Dr. Lorraine Day on the event going on a year and a half, and she said,
	well, you know, the fact that the scandemic well, you know, the fact that the scandemic could shut down the entire world and lock down the entire world means that we already have globalist communist government and that the individual nation-state puppets are essentially giant Just dancing marionettes to the Rothschild tune, and it seems to me this is the same case, especially if you consider that what do the
	Financial usury oligarchs like to do is to put something out of business and buy it for pennies on the dollar So somehow they are now trying to seek control over the Nordstrom pipeline So that could be one possibility.
	I'd like to get your thoughts on the other possibility is that if you recall in the late 19th century
	The Zionists of the day, Moses Hess, Theodor Herzl, declared a blood libel against the Tsar of Russia and against Kaiser Wilhelm of Germany because they blocked the effort by the parasitic Zionists to create their one world banking system then, and they swore that They would destroy those countries completely.
	And what are they doing, right?
	Yeah, right.
	That's a good point.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Just to come back to what I was saying, the British Prime Minister in 2017, that's Theresa May, she's declared at an EU summit that Russia had become the enemy and plans to designate Russia as a hostile state.
	And she was going to spend 100 million pounds over the next few years to pursue this aim.
	So we've had institutions in Britain that are overtly Cold War, to build up this demonising of Russia once again, to re-establish the hostilities.
	So I think Britain has had a key role, obviously together with America, in re-establishing this Cold War, but it's far far more dangerous than it was before.
	Because we've got all these little mini-states joining NATO now.
	NATO's got about 30 different members and there's no kind of buffer between Russia and these NATO countries.
	So if NATO's got 30 members and officially got Russia as the enemy, this is a totally unstable situation and there can't be peace in Europe as long as there is this situation.
	And Russia's Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov warned today that a third world war would be nuclear and destructive amidst the country's invasion of Ukraine.
	I mean, Putin has been trying to signal how serious this is and how the West needs to back off and stop encroaching on its borders and putting all these missile systems there.
	And Americans don't seem to understand this.
	Communist China had missile batteries along our border with Mexico and again along our border with Canada.
	Americans seem utterly incapable of seeing things from another point of view, Nick.
	I mean, it's a parochialism that is just stunning.
	Well, it is, yeah.
	Let's say what America really wants isn't as such nuclear war, although they did, to be honest, they did benefit greatly from the two previous world wars in Europe and a war in Europe Maybe quite congenial for America, but they say that what America really wants is its posture of escalation dominance.
	That means that it can threaten and bully other nations by having enough missiles and military around them.
	So if it's got all these weapons on NATO soil, And mind you, if there were a nuclear war, you could not do a better job of decimating Earth's population, which is the globalist agenda.
	Scorpio, your thoughts?
	Well, yeah, I don't know if it's going to come to that, but what I do see coming is this is going to set up really slowing down the world economy.
	It's going to greatly increase fuel costs.
	I mean, Russia produces something like a third of the global energy, you know, gas and oil output.
	So if you take that off the table, other than it'll probably all go to China, of course, and I think this is what they're setting up, too.
	They're setting up the pieces on the board for a coming, a real world war.
	That's going to be, I think, several years off still.
	And the third thing is we're going to have to go green now.
	We don't have enough gas and oil.
	We have to go green because gas is $6 or $7 a gallon now.
	And then Russia is talking about retaliating by various means, including basically taking the dollar off the table as the world exchange currency.
	And if China goes along with that, we're going to see inflation like we've never seen before in the United States.
	This is going to be incredible.
	And they're also talking about an embargo on minerals from, you know, not selling minerals, industrial minerals, to the West.
	So what are your thoughts on that, Nick?
	Because I see this coming economic storm and this all fits together very conveniently with the World Economic Forum's, you know, model for a great reset by really slowing everything down, creating massive inflation and greatly, you know, increasing this, you know, what do you call it?
	Shipping chain problem, you know?
	Right.
	Well, I'm afraid my crystal ball can't quite foresee the outcome there, Scorpio, but Perhaps in a year or so we'll have a better idea.
	But yeah, this is going to undermine everyone's prosperity.
	That's for sure.
	I'd just like to come back to this theatre and instability in Europe that's developing now.
	For 30 years in Europe, the fear of nuclear war has gone away.
	For 30 years, since around about 1990, people stopped being frightened of nuclear war.
	And why is this coming back again?
	The reason it disappeared is because of something called the INF Treaty, the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Weapons.
	We had real diplomats in those times, real American-Russian diplomats, who worked hard and they got this treaty.
	And that INF Treaty meant that all the horrible intermediate-range weapons in Europe, like cruise missiles and stuff, were cleared out.
	A whole lot.
	And that means in Europe we didn't have nukes targeting each other.
	That was the terrifying thing, because if you've got nukes targeting each other, there's only a very short response time, you know, 10 minutes or something.
	Now, that treaty was allowed to expire in 2019.
	This is one thing the Russians have been extremely bothered about, and they're about the only people who are bothered about the expiry of these treaties, which gave us stability and security at the nuclear Balance, okay?
	So, the reason people weren't frightened of nuclear war was because of that treaty being in place in Europe.
	So, you only had the big strategic missiles threatening each other in Russian America.
	So, those intermediate-range nukes are now coming back, I believe.
	I think America is putting them in Germany now, under very high-speed rockets, and Russia will therefore have to target Germany is the balance of things.
	It will have to target Germany with nuclear missiles.
	And so you'll get this fear of nuclear war will gradually develop.
	So in all this, I see Russia, Putin and Lavrov, as very concerned about the breakdown of these treaties, which brought stability And the West just seems to want a machismo posture of blaming Russia.
	It doesn't really seem to be looking for stability.
	And let's bear in mind that NATO expenditure on military is at least 10 times Russia's.
	I mean Britain has much the same military expenditure as the whole of Russia these days.
	So you can't possibly regard Russia as a threat.
	It's obviously the other way around.
	You've got a whole order of magnitude more military expenditure from NATO countries than you have from Russia.
	Giuseppe?
	Well, I would like to get Nick's thoughts on the following scenario.
	I believe that Paul would support Russia, but Fall will support Ukraine.
	Well, there's a picture behind me you can see of I have the same picture on my wall, Nick, by the way.
	Oh, right.
	Yeah.
	I think I'd rather blow my logic circuits, except if I started to switch over onto that subject.
	I'll rephrase it.
	I just thought you guys would get a kick out of that joke.
	So my question is, Who benefits other than the One World Government Rothschild crowd from this level of escalation and a possible World War III?
	I mean, how does Russia benefit?
	Why has Putin gone all in so boldly?
	And who benefits from this?
	Well, it might be that he's just lost his marbles and this is absolute power corrupting somebody.
	I mean, we get a terrifying picture of one old man apparently able to define the war aims of Russia.
	We don't get the impression of a cabinet that has to agree with him.
	And has he just gone too far?
	Is he just too enraged?
	I mean, that may be a very inadequate view, but that is The way it initially appears.
	Well, Nick, in the beginning, you were explaining how these provocations and the massive shelling and all that more than justified Putin intervening in Ukraine.
	Yeah.
	You also added you think perhaps he's gone further than he originally planned or intended by taking the whole country, which may or may not have been part of the original agenda.
	So how do you reconcile those aspects?
	Well, that is the puzzle.
	We're all bewildered by this.
	And the terrible thing is that him going too far, is your expression, going right across the country, means that all the media pundits don't have to comment about the original cause of this conflict, of a ethnic cleansing policy, deliberate by a bunch of neo-Nazis.
	They don't have to comment, and they don't comment on it.
	They just talk about, oh, Let's stand with Ukraine, the poor people of Ukraine, against this evil Russian invader, who obviously is a megalomaniac and wants to restore the Soviet Union or whatever.
	So the media people don't have to talk about the original cause of Russia coming in.
	That is the way it's working over here.
	I feel it's so tragic that if Russia had stayed focused on its original limited aim, if only he hadn't set any other war aim, if only he declared his sole aim was to stop the bombardment of those republics and enable them to live in peace and rebuild their villages and towns, if only he said that was the sole aim,
	I think you would have had a lot more sympathy in the world, instead of claiming that he wants to change the government of Ukraine.
	Scorpio.
	Scorpio.
	Well, you know, the other thing that's so fascinating about this conflict, and again, I have doubts about what's really happening, I want to see some footage of the 190,000 Russian soldiers, by the way.
	I want to see that, because that's the size of a pretty decent-sized city.
	Where are they all?
	It's like these ghost soldiers.
	There's not any footage of, you know, Thousands upon thousands of Russian soldiers invading it, and I want to see some footage of that.
	And the other thing I find fascinating, guys, is that all of a sudden the Western media is very concerned about civilian casualties, you know, which is legitimate in a sense, but, you know, after 20 years of smart bombs and, you know, just sort of, just glossing over basically like the million people, civilians that were probably killed in Iraq, Not one mention of that, not one mention of all the suffering caused by the West from this.
	Now we're talking about war crimes and the crisis unfolding.
	It's amazing, you know, it shows you how this media, what I call the enemy war transmissions, known as the mainstream media, really you can't rely on them for any reliable information.
	It's all spin, it's all lying by omission and the molding of people's minds.
	Yeah, well perhaps if we come back in a month or so, perhaps we could be able to answer this great question that you're asking, Scorpio.
	Are there really these Russians in the country?
	Is it really happening?
	Is it just molded by the media?
	And perhaps we should come back in a month or so time to be able to answer that.
	That's a good attitude because there's, you know, I'm not saying I know for sure that there's no invasion, but I want to see some real signs of it.
	That's the problem I'm having.
	I think it's a very good point, Nick.
	Let's come back in a month and see where all this is.
	Yeah, the other thing, as you say, it's incredibly racist the way the Caucasian Europeans, if they're inconvenienced, oh, poor people in You know, in the capital city, in Kiev.
	Oh, they're really frightened.
	Oh, Russians might be coming.
	And the actual extermination of people racially different is literally not mentioned.
	It's just not there.
	So this is incredibly racist.
	I mean, America is a country that always bombs people of a darker skin color.
	If you look at about 80 different countries' bombs since World War II, only one of them was white.
	If I may just point that out.
	Giuseppe.
	Well, I'd like to thank Dr. Nick Kallstrom.
	Next time, we'll have to hopefully have you for two hours, and we'll get you back to us.
	Yeah, apologies.
	It's actually, I stopped the wall meeting.
	See, in town, people like Jeremy Corbyn are coming to talk about this whole subject.
	Nick, we can't thank you enough.
	Good luck, my friend.
	Great pressure, yeah.
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	We were hoping to have Holly join us today, but her computer wouldn't handle StreamYard.
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	Let me just introduce one crucial issue.
	I mean, Biden obviously took advantage of the situation here to not address the calamities.
	That has befallen the United States in the year that he has been in office, where 62% of Americans don't believe that Putin would have invaded Ukraine if Trump were still president, and 59% believe Putin invaded because he believed Joe Biden was weak.
	That's very plausible to me, but there's more going on here.
	Scorpio, your thoughts?
	Well, guys, you know, I think the problem I'm having here is I want to see some footage of the 190,000 Russian troops.
	I mean, I think it's hard for people to wrap their head around, like, just how big that is.
	That's the size of a city.
	And the problem I'm having is I'm not seeing any footage Anywhere that shows this.
	I mean, I'm seeing, you know, there's a few tanks and supposedly, you know, unarmed Ukrainians are just going up to the tanks and telling me, hey, go home.
	And, you know, so this, I mean, you know, where are the 190,000 troops?
	I mean, it's certainly possible.
	I'm not saying I know for sure it's not happening, but, you know, where are they?
	And, Jim, the other thing that really is bothering me here, they're showing footage of, you know, the Russians bombing, you know, cities and just blowing up, you know, buildings.
	But if you look carefully, there isn't a direct hit on the building.
	I mean, if you actually hit a building with a modern missile – It's going to level or at least partly level the building.
	What I'm seeing is, you know, minor damage and then lots of debris out front and then some burned cars out front.
	So I want to see some, you know, some footage that that actually shows that there's a large-scale invasion going on because at this point it seems fairly theoretical But what is real is the implications of the economy and fuel prices, and it's going to have an incredible effect upon the lives of Europeans and Americans.
	That part is going to be very real, and I don't even see why Americans should give a damn one way or the other what's going on in Ukraine, quite frankly.
	Well, you made a very telling point about the rapidity with which the Nord Stream 2 company disbanded, declared bankruptcy, fired all its employees.
	I mean, that's incredible!
	We're talking about a few days into this.
	It's a massive project.
	It's been in the works for, what, some five years?
	And they're going to just pivot like this and abandon the whole thing?
	That just smacks of duplicity and intervention of the World Economic Forum, the Rothschild banking empire.
	I mean, that's just stunning.
	It is, and I think, Jim, we have to accept the possibility.
	I'm not saying I know this for sure.
	We have to accept the possibility that Putin is in on this show.
	I'm not saying I know that, but there is footage of Klaus Schwab saying that, you know, Putin was a young global leader in this program, and Russia did go along with the whole, you know, COVID thing.
	They made their own vaccine, made people wear masks, they shut down the economy.
	And the problem I have with Putin's actions is the timing of it.
	It's just the timing is so perfect.
	Right when the whole COVID thing is falling apart, at least for now, it'll probably come back at some point when they need it.
	But the timing of it is just awfully coincidental, let's say.
	Well, just yesterday I did an interview with my friend Archie from Armenia, now residing in South Dakota, and he was portraying Putin as being a globalist, Putin being a puppet of the World Economic Forum, that this whole thing is to bring about the goals of the
	I can no longer write that off, although it breaks my heart if Vladimir Putin turns out to be a scoundrel when I felt he was a man of great honor and integrity.
	Giuseppe, your thoughts?
	I thought Nick Kallistrom brought an excellent point to the table.
	And by the way, we thank Dr. Nick.
	And next time, which I hope will be soon, we'll have him for the full two hours.
	But what a brilliant guy.
	I love his books.
	I own several of them.
	I think that he brought the key point up that if Putin was just looking to free Donbass and Lugansk, which are naturally part of the Russian sphere of influence, and he stopped there and made a point, that would have made Putin the hero.
	But Putin is going way, way too far, too quickly.
	And why?
	Where's the benefit to Russia?
	I mean, my God, they're just savaging Russia economically now and vilifying them, and so why would he go along and push this so far so fast?
	It doesn't benefit him, it doesn't benefit Great points, Giuseppe.
	I totally agree.
	It doesn't benefit Russian interests, which are all about oil and gas.
	And why did, like Scorpio point out, why did the Nord Stream 2 pipeline, the ownership collapse so quick?
	I mean, why didn't they wait a while and see what happens?
	None of this adds up to me.
	Great points, Giuseppe.
	I totally agree.
	Yeah, Scorpio, elaborate.
	Well, none of it adds up.
	I mean, that's the thing.
	I don't have any definite conclusions.
	I have more questions than I have answers.
	And I'm not saying, you know, some people are, you know, sort of mocking me, saying, oh, I think everything's fake.
	No, I just want to see some actual evidence.
	I mean, there's cameras everywhere in today's world.
	Why isn't there any footage of the 190,000 Russian soldiers?
	I mean, that is, I mean, think about that.
	That's the size of a city.
	And the logistics you would need to move that many soldiers into an area is just tremendous.
	And like Giuseppe said, where is the big payoff?
	I mean, let's face it, whether you like Putin or not, whatever you think of him, he's a smart man.
	I don't see the benefit here if you run the cost analysis here.
	There's no benefit.
	But what is really interesting is that if you take Russian gas and oil off the market, We're going to have to go green, guys, you know, and that makes sense.
	And the impact this is going to have on the economies, I mean, this fits right into the World Economic Forum global reset and this need to basically build back better.
	We have to destroy everything first.
	You have to shut the economy down.
	This is certainly a step in the right direction, isn't it?
	Scorpio, you're so right, and that's such a telling point.
	The effects would be catastrophic.
	I'm just grief-stricken at the very possibility that Putin is not the guy I thought he was.
	We do have a caller standing by, a very familiar caller, but we're always glad to hear from him.
	Paul from California joined the conversation.
	Well, Jim, let me jump in one second, because we know Paul is currently And route to Ukraine where he is going to dress like a woman in heavy makeup and put a daisy in the barrel of one of the evil Russians' guns.
	So thank you, Paul, for doing something for world peace.
	Nice point.
	I actually would have preferred and instead of but.
	So for example, but we're always glad to hear from doesn't sound as nice as and we're always glad to hear from.
	So, okay, Fetzer, here we go.
	I got some marbles for your quest.
	Even though I got news for you, they've already got all the marbles and you're not going to get any.
	However, I will support you in your Don Quixote-like quest.
	I have $500 ready to go right now for your GoFundMe.
	I just want three things.
	Three admissions on the air and in writing on your website.
	One, Hitler was one of the greatest men ever.
	Two, We're not on a spinning ball and three nuclear weapons don't exist.
	Go ahead and just submit those things right now.
	I'm half inclined to agree with the first.
	I think Hitler's got a bad rap, but the earth is a spinning ball and nukes are bona fide.
	I wish, Paul, it weren't the case.
	But, you know, as a professor of philosophy, you earned a PhD in the history of science and the philosophy of science.
	The history of science is dominated by the history of physics and astronomy and locating The Earth as a planet in space orbiting around the Sun, where the Sun is one of a minuscule number of billions of stars.
	I mean, I can't buy into pseudoscience and false belief, Paul, so while it's generous of you to offer, I couldn't possibly accept those contingencies.
	Giuseppe, your thoughts about Paul's proposed offer?
	Before Giuseppe's reaction, I just want to say it's to your credit.
	You're a man of honor.
	You can't be corrupted.
	How about $10,000?
	Well, I couldn't under any circumstance, you know.
	I mean, I'm a truth guy.
	Truth, all the truth, nothing but the truth.
	And believe me, I'm dismayed that so many have been played.
	I don't believe a flat Earth is even physically possible because of the laws of gravity that Celestial objects and every other celestial object is, of course, roughly spherical.
	I mean, you look at the odd shape of asteroids and all that, but they're exceptional in not being more rounded.
	Nevertheless, nothing in space satisfies the concept of a flat object in space.
	It's just not there, I'm sorry to say.
	I mean, and I know people I respect Evidently, including you who hold that belief, but it's not scientifically sustainable.
	I would just say this before we get Giuseppe's reaction.
	I would thoroughly enjoy a show where we had on three of the best minds, okay, such as Mike Williams, such as David Weiss, and such as Sophia Smallstorm.
	These are not stupid people.
	Ed Henry also.
	That would make it four.
	Ed Henry is a brilliant man.
	As you know, he wrote a book, 1100 pages.
	It says something in there.
	There's some content to it.
	It's like what I used to say about Henry Ford's book.
	I said it's 900 pages.
	You think there's anything in there?
	So I'll say, Jim, things are the way they are.
	It's just whether we have grasped them yet or not.
	And I'll leave it at that.
	Paul, look, we have so many of these low-level space flights now.
	No one who's ever been up in space holds any faith in a flat Earth.
	I mean, it's just nonsense.
	I'm sorry to say it is nonsense scientifically, historically, astronomically.
	It's completely untenable.
	Well, let's not turn this into a conversation about flat earth.
	I agree.
	That was Paul's imposing these conditions on supporting my effort to get to the Supreme Court.
	Go ahead, Scorpio, your thoughts.
	Well, I'd like to hear, you know, Paul's thoughts on what's going on in Ukraine.
	And I want to know where the 190,000 Russian soldiers are, because I'm not seeing them anywhere.
	They're supposedly amassed on just outside of Kiev, ready to storm the city and take Kiev.
	Well, let's see some footage from all the satellites and, you know, and there's cameras everywhere.
	So where are the soldiers, Paul?
	Touche, you know, it's like the Pentagon, right?
	Where the cameras that were ringing the Pentagon and what did they release, you know, as far as the plane that hit the Pentagon.
	And of course, the timestamp was wrong.
	That was covered right away in Eric Huffman's film.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Eric did brilliant work right off the bat, Paul.
	His early book was one of the best early studies of 9-11.
	He was basically right across the board, so I agree with you there completely.
	I actually looked him up and had a phone conversation.
	He's in California.
	Down there in Santa Barbara, that's where I went to school.
	You know, here's the thing, okay?
	We can't trust anything that we're told.
	I mean, that's our position.
	You know, the guest, Nick, said a very interesting thing among many.
	I think it was the discussion about the, you know, the supply chain or the energy, you know, aspect.
	And he said, well, we're going to have to come back in a year and see where we're at.
	And see, this is a problem for us, you know, men of the West, okay?
	We're just sitting around waiting to see what they're going to do next.
	And you know, if you were to sum up all my calls going back to 2016, it's like, well, as Giuseppe has said, where are the warriors?
	You know, where are the men that are going to take it to them?
	I mean, that's all we need to do to win is just take it to them instead of just sitting around and waiting for them to take it to us, play all these mind games and mount all these psychological operations because they own and control all the media, right?
	All the flow of information except for the internet.
	And I'm sure they would love to get that.
	But they have owned and controlled the flow of information in the media for a hundred plus years.
	Henry Ford talked about it, you know, and how their influence on publishing and Hollywood was, you know.
	I just recently listened to William Pierce again.
	You know, I do it periodically, even though I have a couple hundred hours into William Pierce.
	And he talked about this conversation that took place in 1972 between Billy Graham and Richard Nixon.
	Billy Graham thought that this Jewish power was taking our country down the drain.
	And Richard Nixon says, boy, I believe you, but I can't say it.
	And, and, and, you know, you can hear it if you want.
	It's online.
	And so Pierce made the point that, well, what do we have here?
	If the president of the United States who could take all these people out in a couple of nights, a couple of days, right, he could round them all up and he could do whatever he wanted to do.
	If he says, I can't say it, then what are we talking about?
	This is in 1972, and by the way, about 30 or so years later, I believe it was in 2001 or 2002, Billy Graham groveled and apologized for it.
	For something he said, you know, 30 years prior.
	You know, that's not any kind of a man.
	We just need men to take care of this.
	I'm just tired of it.
	I'm sick of it.
	Well, Paul, I admire your spokenness about these issues, and you've been utterly consistent throughout.
	Giuseppe.
	Giuseppe.
	Well, Paul, I have a compelling offer for you.
	I'll agree to all three for $7,500.
	for $7,500.
	You slut.
	No, it's, you know, it's to me these days and start with all three of you, gentlemen, start with Paul.
	But it seems to me that it's just nothing more than SIOP on top of SIOP that are woven together like, you know, your grandmother used to crochet an afghan or blanket.
	You know, it's just, it's impossible to discern what is true anymore.
	What do you think, Paul?
	Well, you know, we can make our best guess, right?
	But in the end, you know, we're not there.
	And so it's all based upon what other people say.
	And, you know, we can use the gift of perception that we've all been given.
	And some of us, you know, it's unfortunate what they're doing.
	I really do believe this, that they are killing our humanity, our God-given humanity.
	with all these weapons that they're using upon us.
	I really do believe, just like you say about the spiritual component, the perceptions and the level of intelligence that we would normally have is disappearing generation by generation.
	It's clearly a war upon us.
	There's a guy on YouTube that made a great point.
	He lives in Kiev.
	He's an American.
	And this video was posted on Mammy's or Mammy's, however you want to say it.
	I'm sure maybe one or two of you saw it.
	But he talked about the fact that the awful, terrible thing that Zelensky's government has been doing, handing out AK-47s to people, because it's just going to get a bunch of people killed.
	I mean, not only are they not trained soldiers, but if you are a civilian and you got a weapon, what choice does a Russian soldier have but to shoot you?
	Right.
	And it just once again points to the nature that to the extent that this is real, it's all about getting Gentiles killed.
	I mean, if you look at the history of what's going on, it seems that freedom and democracy requires a lot of Gentile bodies filled with bullets and shrapnel.
	I mean, that's the Jewish formula for freedom and democracy.
	And, you know, there's not a bunch of Jews that are going to be fighting on the ground in Ukraine and Russia.
	This whole thing just pisses me off and makes me sick.
	And again, it's just one of those things where we just have to sit here and, you know, allow other people like Fox News, okay, our great friend, the conservative Fox News, Oh, Paul, I agree.
	I agree.
	The nonsense coming out of a lot of Fox has just been embarrassing to me.
	Scorpio, with all due respect to Paul and his independence of thought, do you think it's reasonable to believe that nuclear weapons are not a reality, a very grim reality?
	Well, boy, I'm a little on the fence on that one.
	It's possible.
	I wouldn't discount the possibility that that's been overblown.
	I'm certain that nuclear power plants are real.
	But as far as nuclear weapons, I think they probably are, but I wouldn't discount the possibility that that's a hoax, too.
	I don't have enough information to have a definite opinion on that.
	That's pretty dismaying, Scorpio.
	The history of nuclear tests and nuclear weapons is just devastating.
	Hiroshima, Nagasaki, and beyond, all the Americans who've suffered the effects of nuclear exposure.
	Yeah.
	I encourage everyone.
	I think the most important film ever made was Stanley Kubrick's Doctor Strangelove.
	And then everyone on planet Earth ought to watch that at least once a year.
	We got another caller here, Paul.
	Hang on.
	Scott from San Diego.
	And then we'll get back to Scorpio.
	Scott, go ahead.
	Join the conversation.
	Hey guys, thanks for taking my call.
	Hey listen, I know you didn't want to turn this into a Flat Earth show.
	But now we're going to do that, huh?
	I've looked at Flat Earth, and I'm open to the idea.
	I'm not closed off.
	But there are two things that I feel that can't be really explained without a Flat Earth model, which is a lunar eclipse and the sunset that shines the clouds from the bottom.
	Listen, there's a huge amount.
	I've done shows before on flat Earth, and it's simply not productive in this context to divert ourselves.
	So, Scott, I appreciate that.
	I appreciate that.
	I mean, the evidence is that Aristarchus estimated the circumference of Earth and estimated it was circular in like around 300 B.C.
	I mean, this is just ridiculous beyond words, in my opinion.
	If you actually study the history of physics and astronomy, You cannot adhere to a flat earth theory, which as I'm saying, does not even appear to be physically possible, because the laws of gravitation, that everything with mass attracts every other thing with mass.
	According to Newton's laws, it's going to generate round objects, not flat ones.
	And we have all the evidence from low Earth orbit.
	People are actually observing it.
	You got the mass of ships disappearing as they sail across the sea, the seasons, you know, I mean, the day and night.
	Okay, Paul, we just can't go there.
	Scorpio is right.
	We don't want to devolve into that.
	We have much more important issues on the table, but I'm dismayed anyone in this day and age would have doubts about the existence of nuclear weapons, if only, if only.
	Giuseppe, your thoughts.
	But, but Tim.
	Giuseppe, Paul, Paul, Paul, Paul, I don't want to go there.
	Giuseppe, Giuseppe, your thoughts.
	On Trinity, you never read it.
	Giuseppe, your thoughts.
	I, uh, yeah, I, I think that, uh, The flat earth thing isn't really productive.
	And it's interesting and it's fascinating.
	And Paul's right.
	There's some brilliant people who have put a lot of time into it.
	And to me, it's more of an idea I'm more interested in – Is this a simulation?
	Are we like in some kind of consciousness thing?
	That seems more realistic than is the earth flat or not.
	I don't think that's really where I put my time into it.
	And it's interesting.
	And the people who are dedicated to it really believe in it.
	I respect that and willing to discuss anything.
	You know, that's really neither here nor there when we're looking at this, you know, some of the more front-burner issues, which is, we just got through two years of a mass genocide, death-jab-scandemic, and suddenly, I grabbed this meme the other day, and now suddenly, COVID's gone, and the sheeple are looking at the Ukraine, and it's just, I don't know, man.
	The power, I think the key point that Paul has is that where is the warrior class?
	Why are we putting up with this?
	Why does a sick subhuman who looks like Montgomery Burns of the Simpsons and his minions get to do all this?
	I mean, why are their heads still attached to their torsos is what I want to know.
	Let me reiterate the calls we're taking.
	540-352-4452.
	540-352-4452.
	Paul, we're coming up against a hard break.
	We'll keep you on, of course, and we'll take further thoughts from you when we return.
	Meanwhile, 540-352-4452.
	Giuseppe, just to squeeze that in, do you have any serious doubts about the existence of nuclear weapons?
	No, I'm pretty convinced they exist.
	There's a lot of these bright people who go down these rabbit holes.
	Yeah, I think if you have nuclear power, you obviously have nuclear weapons.
	That's the whole reason for nuclear power is because they developed the weapons and then they figured out something to do with the waste product of creating the weapons.
	We'll come back and we'll take further comments from Paul and Scott, if he's there too, and others who are welcome to call in 540-352.
	The mechanic has joined us right after this break.
	Thank you, Jim.
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	And now we return you to your host. - Well, for diversity of opinion, we've been joined by The Mechanic, and I'm very glad to offer we've been joined by The Mechanic, and I'm very glad to offer the opportunity for his thoughts on all Please do share your observations and perceptions, Mechanic.
	Well, thanks for having me on, Fetzer, Scorpio, and...
	Giuseppe, listen, I sent a video to Giuseppe here about 5-10 minutes ago through Skype.
	Let me get this whining taken care of here.
	And it's, I don't know, it looks like 30, maybe even 50,000 troops at the Chechen border right now.
	Is this a Globe Earth thing?
	No, no, this is the potential World War III, Russian troops at the checkpoint.
	No, no, no, I know, but is it Global Earth?
	What is the video?
	How are we perceiving it?
	I sent it to Giuseppe, if you want to take a look at it.
	Did I send it to Dave?
	No, I have it.
	I can, let's see.
	Well, I just screen share it, Giuseppe.
	Here, hold on.
	Here, I can play it.
	Yeah, I'll do it right now.
	Here we go.
	Okay, so let me...
	Here it is, courtesy of the mechanic.
	That's quite a few soldiers there, Scorpio. - No.
	Yeah, but they're in Chechnya, right?
	Right, they're in Chechnya, but I believe that the narrative behind this gathering is to inform them of the future plans.
	And I think they're going to be fighting on behalf of the Russians.
	Maybe so.
	We'll see.
	Anything's possible.
	There's a glimpse.
	Now that you wanted a glimpse, there's a glimpse.
	Yeah, but they're not in Ukraine.
	They're not in Ukraine.
	That's a fact.
	They're not in Ukraine, but you wanted a glimpse.
	I am not in the position that... I don't agree with Jack.
	I don't agree with a lot of these people.
	I think the CNN has completely lied to us.
	All these mainstream news, of course that's what they do.
	There is no full-on takeover of Ukraine.
	The Russian stance here is that NATO has gone too far.
	If NATO comes into Ukraine and they make a deal, there will be missiles pointed at Russia with inside of Ukraine.
	That's a problem for any country.
	It's interesting that they're using words like Russia invaded a sovereign country!
	It's funny, because isn't America a sovereign country and aren't we being invaded right now?
	And they're doing nothing about it.
	So I wanted to bring that to the table.
	Also, Fetzer, just to let you know, man...
	When NASA puts in their website a couple of things, it's very eye-opening.
	One, everything from space to CGI.
	Two, that they lost the technology to go back to the moon.
	These are things I find unbelievable.
	Number three, I mean, I could go on and on and on.
	I don't feel like I'm spinning.
	You know, if you read the Bible, it mentions the firmament.
	If you're a believer in the Bible and you just want to pick and choose what you want to believe in, you can't just dissect the Bible and say, okay, I don't want to believe in the firmament.
	I don't want to believe in the indefinite plane, but I want to believe in the rest of the Bible.
	That to me doesn't ring logical.
	I'm not a Christian or a Buddhist or a Jew or any.
	I'm an agnostic.
	We, of course, did not go to the moon.
	I've done many exposés about our not going to the moon.
	It was totally fabricated and fake, but it does not follow from our incapacity to go to the moon because we didn't have the propulsion power, the computer power.
	Uh, the communication capacity that Earth is not round.
	All the heavenly bodies are round.
	I mean, it's just ridiculous to think Earth is round.
	This is getting back to the primitive idea that the Earth is the center of the universe and all the other heavenly bodies circulate around the Earth, which has been dispatched.
	I mean, I can't tell you how many generations ago.
	We're talking about several thousand years of research in astronomy and physics.
	Well, let's keep the show on topic, guys.
	I'm not going flat earth.
	I'm not going to go flat earth on Fetzer.
	I'm a flat earther.
	Everybody in this radio station knows I'm a flat earther.
	I'm not shamed because of it.
	I just go off of my instincts.
	I don't need to prove it to anybody.
	I can't prove it to anybody.
	And you can't prove to me that the world is round.
	I do want to go on to more important subjects.
	Well, that's okay.
	Because you've been right about everything else, Spencer.
	You're right about Sandy Hook.
	You're right about Parkland.
	You're right about all the garbage false flags that have taken place in this country that have put the diagnosis of hypochondriac on a good number of individuals walking this planet.
	Not just this country.
	We are living and witnessing a cult of hypochondriacs and now we have those same individuals who are wearing a mask immediately drop the mask, drop COVID, see another shiny thing called Ukraine and say, I pray for Ukraine.
	Go ahead.
	No, no, I'll take what I can get.
	I mean, I appreciate that much of agreement over all these false flags.
	Everybody, we've got some callers.
	Let's go to area code 231.
	Your name and where you're calling from and what would you like to discuss?
	Hi, Giuseppe.
	Can you hear me?
	Yes, sir.
	What's your name and where are you calling from?
	This is Ken from Michigan.
	Hey, Ken.
	How are you?
	All right.
	Yes, the world's a stage, and the two cats that are in there right now are Biden and Putin.
	And, you know, right at the back door of Russia, Putin's just defending himself.
	So, you know, I think the propaganda is outrageous.
	I was watching Saturday Night Live, and they have all these Ukrainian corps opening up for the cold open, and it was just so ridiculous to look at that, you know.
	And hearing everybody call Putin an anti when he's just defending his country, but they're making him seem like he's the aggressor.
	You know, and President Trump and President Putin would see eye to eye on this, and not an eye for an eye, like the globalist big brother, New World Order minion, Joe Biden.
	You know, I think Putin has said many things at the The Jews ran the Communist Party, and they control the media here in the United States.
	So, Mike King wrote a book called The War Against Putin, and he respects Putin, he respects Trump.
	I would love to see where he says that.
	The Great One.
	The Great One.
	You know, so, people die from abuse.
	People die from lack of knowledge.
	People die from lack of knowledge.
	Yes, yes, from misinformation, false belief, absolutely.
	I wanted to know where Kent saw this, saw Putin say about the Jews, because you can see photographs of Putin with a skull cap and a bunch of rabbis.
	You can see him taking handles cross-wab.
	So it's like, I want to see where Putin said this.
	He was talking to all the rabbis there, saying that most of the Communist Party were run by the Jews.
	I saw it on the internet.
	I learned everything from the internet.
	From the internet, you know it's contrary to the mainstream bullshit machine.
	Sure, sure.
	Let me say, Paul, I'd love to get your opinion of the new piece by Joaquin Hagopian that I just published on my blog at jamesfetzer.org, where he has a video of Ukrainians who are dancing and celebrating because the Russians are liberating from the oppression of their Nazi government.
	Just take a look.
	We have another caller, of course, Brute.
	Brute's here.
	Brute, join the conversation.
	Well, it was two, three years ago when Putin actually came out and said, he made a statement, says, Hey, it isn't Russians.
	It happens to be Jewish Russians, Jews in Russia causing problems over there.
	And this is all related to Trump and so on at the time.
	So you have that, you know, how about that, that state of the union address last night, man, that was phenomenal, man.
	I mean, we had during the Trump years, his Zionist Jewish speech writers, and now we have the Bolshevik.
	Jewish speechwriters.
	And man, what a comparison.
	You have the bloodlust that comes out of the speeches of the Bolsheviks, when you had the hidden, you know, we're taking over your country and doing all these bad things behind your back, Zionist speechwriters.
	So you can tell the difference on the two.
	Regarding Ukraine, you know, we don't really know true narratives, but we go off of Russell Bentley.
	You know, sometimes I wonder which direction he's coming from, how this is humanitarian effort, they're liberating Ukrainians, all the scum that's there, all the, you know, the Victorian Newland and the neocons and all the oligarchs from the Clintons, the Lebronis and the Bidens and any number of people around the Lebronis and the Bidens and any number of people around the world that have been using Ukraine out of many
	It's not just Ukraine they're doing this and using it as a playground, stealing the resources, human trafficking, you know, just killing people at will, so on and so forth.
	So we have to believe that narrative in a sense.
	But, you know, as far as the troop movement goes, you know, you don't send all your troops, you know, Oh, I got 190,000 troops.
	You don't send them all in one time.
	You send them in phases.
	They had phase and the people saw the V on the equipment.
	They said that V stood for, you know, the initial force that went in with older equipment or whatever.
	Then they had a V on the next round of equipment, which actually the equipment was actually newer and so on.
	to actually come in behind as a cleanup effort and organization.
	So they got troops on the standby.
	As far as those Chechenians go, allegedly Putin, and I can double check all this part, Putin talked to the Chechenians and said, "Look, you help us out, we'll help you establish portions of Russia to run we'll help you establish portions of Russia to run as you see fit, as long as there's no terrorism and as long as extremism and all this other stuff." So they're there to back them up in regards to the way this goes.
	The third point I want to make is, you know, all this stuff Paul suggests, why can't we just go into these countries, why can't we come into our own country, United States, Canada, wherever, and round these people up?
	We're now witnessing what it takes, what kind of chaos occurs when you just try and round these people up.
	Is there a quiet way to do it?
	Or do you got to come in with force, the way they're doing it now?
	That's the question at hand, because we keep asking, well, if they know where all these people are, what to do, why don't you just go and get them?
	We keep having all that Q narrative or whatever, the White Hat narrative, where they're, you know, the power's going to go off, and during the power's being lost, they're going to do this, they're going to do that, they're going to get these people, but it never, never appears to happen.
	So they, you know, we can see going with brute force is an example right now we're witnessing in Ukraine.
	If they tried to do this in the United States, it'd be just complete chaos.
	Good stuff, Bruce.
	Scorpio, your thoughts?
	Well, again, uh, you know, I hear Bruce making some, you know, good points, I guess, but I'd still, where are the forces?
	Okay.
	He only sent a little people saying, Oh, he's only sending a little forces.
	And now, well, where are they?
	I haven't seen any footage of even a thousand Russian troops with guns storming into Ukraine anywhere.
	They're, they're telling us that Russia is about to storm the capital of Kiev.
	Where are the troops?
	I just want to see some footage and then I'll believe it.
	Until I do, I think we're being played on a colossal scale here from both sides of the aisle.
	And it's so easy to get caught up in this dialectic where, well, you think, you know, Joe Biden is lying to us and the Western media is lying to us, but Putin's telling the truth and he's not part of this.
	I just think we need to step back and consider that this is all a big shit show we're watching here, and we're going to be the big losers of all this.
	It's clear to me how they set up a phony war.
	How they set up all the pieces on a chess board and say, oh, we have no choice but to go to war.
	Look, look what's happening.
	I just think we're being played on a massive scale, guys.
	I respect your skepticism.
	There's a lot of wisdom there.
	Russell Bentley, a heritage Texan, is on the ground there.
	Been living in the Ukraine as family in Ukraine.
	You know, married to Ukraine.
	Yeah, I know about him, but I want to see some footage, Brute.
	Where is the footage of all the soldiers?
	I know about Russell Bentley.
	He's some guy that lives there that believes in the cause.
	Where are the troops?
	There are a couple of people on Twitter that are following this, so there is stuff happening on the ground there.
	Now, allegedly, Whatever we want to think.
	Russell Bentley, is he lying to us?
	We've got propaganda from both sides.
	Is he lying to us, as well as our mainstream media lying to us?
	So which side do we take?
	We've got to take a guy that we think is being truthful with us, saying, look, they're liberating, they're trying to take out these bad guys, they've got these cities surrounded and so forth.
	Do we believe him?
	Or should we just not believe anything at all?
	I want to see some footage of some Russian troops.
	Until I do, I'm not buying anything.
	I mean, if you believe it, show me the footage of the Russian troops, Brew.
	That's what I want to see.
	And I'll believe it.
	I want to believe it.
	I want to believe.
	But I don't see any indication that... First of all, Russell Bentley only knows what's going on in the two breakaway republics.
	That's a different issue.
	I think there is something going on there for sure.
	It could very well be a Ukrainian push to take those back.
	But I want to see, supposedly Putin's invading the whole country, and there's troops amassed just outside of Kiev about to take the city.
	I want to see some proof of any of that.
	And I think we're being played, and we're seeing a wag the dog kind of war, so they can put all these restrictions on the economy, take the Russian oil off the market, and greatly increase fuel prices, greatly increase inflation, Mess up the supply chain and forces, oh, we have to go green now.
	Look at the horrible implications of the climate change with this war.
	I mean, it's all, to me, it's all just fitting into a big script at this point.
	And it's really frustrating for me because I'm not seeing any proof of any of this, yet we're all supposed to believe it.
	Scorpio, you're making a powerful argument.
	We have another caller standing by.
	Area code 615.
	Please give us your name and your state and join the conversation.
	615.
	It's John Persaud.
	How are you, Jim?
	Hey, Johnny!
	What's up?
	So yeah, one of the other observations I made Scorpio is some of those bombed out buildings they showed.
	I saw like three desks.
	I mean, if you blew apart half an apartment building, I would see a lampshade or a sofa.
	So I'm not buying the footage either.
	And then my second point, well, here's the other one, because you guys know I flip on the Fox News just to laugh or fall asleep, whatever.
	But, you know, they said this 40-mile convoy has been 7 miles from Kiev!
	Not Kiev, anyway!
	Kiev!
	They've been there for 48 hours!
	They haven't moved!
	Are you going to sit there and tell me Putin is so stupid that he didn't send enough fuel to keep moving that 40-mile train of equipment?
	Really?
	I mean, that level of incompetence is something.
	And in the house, it was just this morning when I flipped on Fox and Friends, the guy had said that that actor who's playing the president of Ukraine, his grandparents are survivors of the Holocaust.
	And I'm like, oh, you just gotta be shitting me.
	I mean, really?
	You know, Bolshevik Russia is going against survivors of the Holocaust?
	This whole thing is just a circus.
	Yeah.
	Mechanic.
	Mechanic, your thoughts.
	Well, I'm going to just jump in.
	That was a great call.
	Thank you.
	Go ahead, Scorpio.
	Yeah, it was.
	Great call.
	And yeah, I mean, you could say a lot of things about Putin.
	He certainly isn't stupid.
	And there's also reports that, oh, the Russian troops are running out of bullets.
	Oh, Putin forgot to give bullets.
	That's a joke.
	Hey, by the way, let's add this to the mix.
	Isn't it reminiscent of our guy, uh, I think his last name was Williams.
	Uh, he played two parts.
	He played two roles in Sandy Hook, one, a school teacher, and then later a third role, an FBI agent carrying around a sniper rifle with full tack and a, uh, a little, uh, what do you want to call it?
	Like package protector, right?
	What was his name?
	David Wheeler.
	David Wheeler, right.
	David Wheeler.
	Two-year-old grieving father and also a SWAT team member, walking up and down Dickinson Drive carrying a weapon upside down by the magazine.
	Yeah, by the magazine.
	No one's ranking Marine Corps private with no better than to do that.
	His wife, Francine, was the assistant, personal assistant, To a woman by the name of White, who was a finance chairman for the DNC.
	This was a Barack Obama operation, and he flew the wheelers down to the White House to give a speech about Sandy Hook from the Oval Office.
	Really quite extraordinary.
	Yeah.
	Spencer, listen, you'll be pleased to know that my three-year career behind the wheel of Uber and Lyft That every time some college level student or learner got in my vehicle, they got a dose of your information.
	I would say, you know, if somebody's in a bad mood, I would be like, hey, hey, we can celebrate.
	We can celebrate.
	What are you talking about?
	This was right after Sandy Hook.
	I was driving her for a lift.
	From 2012 to 2015, and that was right during the epic time of the prime time of Sandy Hook premiere theatrical presentation, right?
	Hey, we can celebrate!
	No kids died in Sandy Hook!
	And the look on their face!
	I would get letters from Lyft, please keep all your conspiracy concerns to yourself.
	Eventually I got fired from Uber for sharing too many personal views.
	You just made my day.
	Mitchell has put a note here that's very telling.
	Russians remember Stalingrad and how it drove the collapse of the German army.
	Putin will use nukes before losing.
	I think he's got a point.
	Even if nukes existed, it's not going to use them.
	There will be no nukes used.
	That's my prediction.
	I'm sorry.
	Well, we certainly hope not, Paul.
	We certainly hope not.
	You know, Jim, let's just check with all the callers and make sure we didn't miss anybody.
	Is there anybody on the line that we didn't get to?
	Okay, I guess we got to all of them.
	I don't remember if we got to... We got 2-3-1, right?
	And we got 5-0-5, and we got Brew.
	Brew, Brew, would you like to answer?
	Hold on, hold on.
	That's Bruce from Texas.
	We didn't get to Bruce from Texas yet.
	Go ahead, Bruce.
	No, we did.
	We did.
	Go ahead, Bruce.
	Bruce.
	Bruce from Texas.
	Go ahead.
	Huh.
	Disappeared.
	Brew, Brew, are you still there?
	No, Brew left.
	I saw Brew leave.
	Okay, too bad.
	By the way, I think it's a spiritual battle.
	Okay, is that Ken from Michigan?
	Yes, spiritual battle of hearts and minds.
	I look at Putin as a believer, an orthodox Christian.
	I think Trump is a Christian.
	He's not an orthodox Christian.
	And they're believers.
	How do you know?
	Paul, let the callers make their point, Paul.
	Don't talk over the callers.
	If you don't believe it, the fact is they believe it.
	This all comes out of Judaism.
	So, you know, I do have the feeling that Putin is an orthodox Christian.
	I know that Trump is.
	And that's why they're on the same page.
	And these, you know, these other vampires and demons that are controlling the New World Order don't want that to happen.
	So even even though they're demons, too, I mean, they still fall to the most high.
	You know, I mean, there are demons that know what's going on and aren't atheistical, anti-Christ Jews.
	And they're they're taking they're taking out the underground layers to Trump and the White Hats.
	They're going to come in and turn the country around.
	The world is a stage.
	The world is a stage.
	And this brings us back to the flat Earth and you can get to the same points of destiny from a flat Earth or a globe.
	It doesn't matter.
	But the fact that the globe is going around a sphere of fire is a very peculiar state of circumstances, don't you think?
	I mean, you know, I mean, just look at the moons of Jupiter, for example, and you see, you know, what's going on here.
	But we don't want to go there.
	Scorpio was wise to divert us from that path.
	So let's not return.
	We do need to do a show with some serious people on it where we can actually tackle these issues instead of having you blast them.
	I'll go toe-to-toe Fetzer on Flat Earth, you know I will, but not myself.
	Love it all.
	Giuseppe, your thoughts?
	Just quickly, really fast, I can relate to what the mechanic said about driving for Uber and Lyft, because I was driving a limo in 2018, and it's boring if you don't talk to people, and so I indeed did run into problems too with expressing viewpoints.
	Just check out Aristarchus of Samos, who in 300 B.C.
	established the Earth was round and had a good estimate of the Earth's circumference.
	Paul, Paul, Paul.
	God damn it.
	Give me a break.
	You really shovel a lot of it, Paul.
	I'm sorry to say.
	Scorpio, come to our rescue.
	Come to our rescue, Scorpio.
	Well, you know, you can have the Flat Earth Show with Mechanic.
	It's just something I want to get into on air.
	It is interesting.
	There are certainly flaws in the things we're being told about the Earth, no question.
	It just always goes into a very argumentative place, and there's no end to it.
	That's the problem I have with it.
	But, you know, again, I just think we're being played in... You know, it's funny how we're supposed to believe all these characters.
	Well, Putin's a Christian.
	Well, maybe he is, maybe he isn't.
	I don't know.
	Trump is a Christian.
	Well, all of his family are Jews.
	He's intermarried with all these Jews.
	So, you know, I just...
	I'm really getting to the point where I think all of these politicians are actors on a stage.
	We already have a global government.
	You just have to hold it.
	Say that again?
	Because you have to renounce Jesus Christ and worship Satan.
	In order to be a Talmudic Jew?
	Is that your point?
	To be a Talmudic Jew?
	As opposed to a Torah Jew?
	I mean, you know.
	Even among the Jews, Christ was a prophet.
	He may have been crucified, but that was really the Romans doing, principally.
	He was raising rabble.
	And if they didn't, they became anti-Christ and stuck to their own evil ways.
	Giuseppe, we have about a minute left.
	I'd like for you to give us kind of a summing up here, if you would, for a very interesting, contentious second hour following a masterful first with Nick Kohlerstrom, whom we must have back again soon.
	Well, what's that famous quote, Jim?
	It's a mystery wrapped in an enigma.
	Wrapped in a riddle.
	Shrouded in a mist.
	Yeah.
	I think that we're seeing psyops on so many levels.
	And I really salute Nicholas Kallistrom, Scorpion, all the callers.
	We're all adults.
	We can talk about anything.
	And that's the point of free speech.
	And so, you know, everybody's entitled to their opinions.
	Because it's like, what's that old saying?
	Uh, opinions are like, uh, everyone has one.
	Thank you all for joining us, excellent callers, and of course special thanks to Nick Forrest, whom we all admire profoundly.

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