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Operation Scorpio #80 - 11 September 21 - 9/11 False Flag 20th Anniversary Roundtable Spectacular!

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	Pretty girls beware out on the lone highway.
	Out on the lone highway.
	of the lone highway A little honey on the lone highway
	But before another of the lone highway the
	They killed Dirty Dog McGee on the Lone Highway.
	I don't know, maybe... maybe it's a magic spell. I don't know. I just feel like I'm
	Maybe that's from my beat on Skype.
	Okay.
	Hello and welcome to Operation Scorpio.
	Today's date is Saturday, September 11, 2021.
	A day that shall live in infamy.
	And welcome to the Free Range Open Air Insane Asylum.
	We call Earth.
	Well guys, here we are.
	Here we are, living in the land of fruits and nuts.
	California, here I come.
	Right back where I started from.
	Back to the state in which I was born.
	And probably not the smartest place in the world to be living right now, but here I am anyway.
	From the jungle of Ecuador right into the jungle of Southern California.
	Welcome to the jungle, baby.
	Well, guys, all I can say is it's been a real change in reality, a real shift in reality.
	A long, strange trip it's been, as they say.
	And it's quite fitting that I come back on the air.
	On 9-11.
	And coming up in just a little bit, we have quite a collection of very knowledgeable guests to talk about that day of infamy and its implications.
	And how I believe that, you know, Operation COVID Hoax and 9-11 are intimately tied together in many, many ways.
	And just briefly, you know, I'll share just a couple observations about being back in the United States after being gone for nearly five years.
	And I, you know, the thing that really strikes me the most is the absolute skyrocketing cost of living, especially here in California.
	I would estimate that the cost of living is probably close to doubled.
	Yes, doubled in the last five years.
	So, you know, that means that you're at something near a 15 to 20% rate of inflation happening in California and probably somewhere at minimum 10% nationwide, which means the cost of living has gone up at least 50% For everyone in the country.
	And of course, inflation is nothing more than a hidden tax.
	And I doubt that anyone out there has received a 50% pay raise in the last five years.
	So it's all part of this scheme to sort of gradually lower the standard of living for people.
	And, you know, when it's just a little bit at a time, I guess they say, what, death by a thousand cuts?
	That's sort of what they're doing.
	But when you see it all at once, after five years, it becomes much more self-evident.
	And briefly, I want to just mention Groper Joe's speech from Thursday afternoon that I believe will go down As one of the most tyrannical speeches in modern history.
	Certainly the most tyrannical speech in the history of the United States.
	I mean, this guy even put some of George Bush's talks to shame.
	But what was interesting is the speech was laced with tyrannical dictates, but wrapped In the siren song of guaranteeing your safety.
	And it was all so gentle and caring at the same time.
	What a con job.
	And this Groper Joe, I think he's been taken over by some kind of entity.
	His eyes were completely black during that speech.
	Very, very odd looking.
	And it's just interesting, too, how essentially demanding that every person in the country submit the sovereignty of their body over to the government, this is pretty much what it comes down to.
	Because if you don't have the right to decide what is injected into your body, then you truly have no rights at all.
	So this is it, guys.
	We are in the endgame heading towards abject slavery.
	There's no denying it now.
	No denying it now.
	If you lose the sovereignty of your own body, you truly have no rights left at all.
	And any government that can continuously take away more and more rights really shows that you had no rights to begin with.
	It was all just an illusion.
	So, we are heading down the road to slavery at a breakneck speed, aren't we?
	And in a lot of ways, this information was a lot more fun when it was just a conspiracy theory, something you read about in a book, or something you thought might happen in the distant future.
	But here we are now, living it in real time.
	And it should be clear to everyone out there listening that we are living under a government that has completely turned on the people it is supposed to govern.
	And really, when you think about it, this is the eventual fate of all governments throughout history.
	It's inevitable that the government will turn on its own people.
	Because with each passing generation of government workers and officials, the corruption and lust for power will always continue to increase as sure as the sun will rise.
	It's a guarantee And on this 20th anniversary of 9-11, how many of these security measures have been rolled back after 20 years?
	Well, of course, the answer is none.
	Because rights taken away are never given back.
	You can take that to the bank as well.
	And those restrictions will be in place forever as long as this government continues to exist.
	Thank you.
	And you know, guys, there are so many similarities between 9-11 and Operation COVID Hoax.
	And let me tell you, it is not the least bit pleasant to fly anymore, especially internationally.
	It was really quite an experience getting on an airplane.
	Between the continuous demands to see your papers, they have turned just about every worker in the airport into a little Caesar who thinks they have some kind of authority over you.
	Even the lowest ticket holder or ticket stub worker Felt they had some degree of authority to question you and to make you submit.
	And I remember the days when the stewardesses on airplanes were always friendly and smiling and just waiting to bring you another drink or a snack.
	Well, no more, guys.
	Stewardesses have been transformed into scowling mask police Controlling up and down the aisle and looking for mask violations.
	Don't even try to pull your mask below your nose.
	You will be threatened in a most unfriendly manner.
	And really, if you think about it, the airport, the whole system they have built around the airport between 9-11 and Operation COVID Hoax, They really are building a microcosm of the society they want to build for all of us in every aspect of our lives.
	It's symbolic in many ways.
	And of course, Operation Covid-Hoax is building upon the foundation of tyrannical thinking
	that began in earnest with 9-11.
	So I doubt I will ever get on an airplane again.
	And it looks like there's already legislation in process to require a vaccine just to get on a domestic flight, guys.
	A domestic flight.
	And here I was, concerned about international flights.
	I knew that was coming, but...
	They're getting ready to close the door on people who are not vaccinated, even to fly domestically.
	And of course, once these new COVID restrictions are in place and vaccine requirements are in place, they will never be lifted.
	That's the part we must remember.
	This is not a temporary thing.
	Just let 9-11 be your guide on that one, guys.
	But of course, it's all put in place to protect us.
	We don't want to take away your rights, but we have to.
	It's for your own good, don't you know?
	It's for your own protection.
	Oh yes.
	The siren song leading our ship towards The Rock of Tyranny.
	And you know, another inevitable component of any security state, like the one we live in now, is that the state will always begin with an external threat, like those evil Muslim terrorists that they had to protect us from.
	But they will always move that threat Shift the threat and make the new enemy the people who live within that country This is another guarantee if you look at how tyrannical systems operate And really if you think about it everything has been inverted now We have we have a government
	That's going to import 95,000 so-called refugees from Afghanistan, which not long ago was this great terrorist threat that they had to protect us from.
	And of course, when they first started out, it was going to be 40,000 refugees and then 50,000.
	refugees and then 50,000 now it's 95,000 and they are openly admitting that it
	will be more than that. Yes the people who are the great terror threat 20 years
	ago are now harmless refugees waiting to become loyal Americans.
	And of course, the new threat are the anti-vaxxers and the so-called white supremacists.
	Whatever that's supposed to be.
	A boogeyman.
	A shadow lurking in the closet.
	That you must be protected from.
	So it's really amazing.
	This whole thing has become inverted.
	The evil Muslim terrorists have become refugees.
	And people who do not wish to submit to tyrannical medical dictates are now being called the greatest threat within our country.
	And finally, if you recall when this Operation COVID Hoax began, they kept talking about herd immunity, of course, as though we are a herd of cattle, because that's precisely how we are viewed.
	But they kept saying that we will reach herd immunity when we have about 70% of the population vaccinated, or quaccinated, As my good friend and co-host likes to say.
	But of course that is completely down the memory hole.
	Never to be mentioned again.
	Now the agenda is to have all Americans vaccinated.
	And this evil man, Dr. Fauci, even said children that are six months of age will need this Shot this injection to be safe.
	Well, that said, I would like to bring on my main man and my co-host, Mr. Giuseppe from the District of Criminals.
	Giuseppe, how are you, sir?
	I'm living the dream, brother.
	It's good to have you back on your show.
	It's, uh, everything is right in this world again.
	Or not.
	Or not.
	Yes.
	That was a great intro.
	Going to have a phenomenal roundtable.
	We've got Already joining us is Mike Gatti, Jim Fetzer, Daryl Wayne on Skype, and I think we've got Joe Olson and Blackbird9 coming in pretty soon.
	Great, great.
	That's excellent.
	Well, let's just go ahead and kick this roundtable off.
	Oh, Dennis Camino, too.
	Here's Dennis.
	Great.
	Well, let's go ahead and kick off this roundtable, then.
	I want to thank everyone that's come aboard here already.
	Mike Gaddy, the rebel madman himself, the great Jim Fetzer, a legend, a true legend within this field of research.
	And I believe Dennis Camino has joined us as well.
	And what I'd like to do to begin with- And Daryl Wayne, Daryl Wayne.
	Oh, Daryl Wayne.
	Daryl, are you there, sir?
	Oh yeah.
	Okay, great.
	And here's Joe Olson.
	Hey, hey, hey, nothing up this sleeve!
	Okay, not yet anyway.
	Well, what I'd like to do is to start off is to get sort of a perspective from all of you.
	Here we are 20 years later from this day of infamy and I would like to just get your reflections on what 9-11 really means and how 9-11 is intimately connected to this vaccination scheme, because that's really what's going on here.
	It's a vaccination scheme to force everyone to submit the sovereignty of their body over to the government.
	That's really what it comes down to.
	So, I just want to get your perspective 20 years later.
	Why don't we start with the great Jim Kessler.
	Jim, what are your thoughts on 9-11 20 years later?
	Well, Scorpio, there's been a great step forward by virtue of the resignation of Richard Gage from Architects and Engineers, which has been running a limited hangout this entire time and scarfing up most of donations from the American public in the false belief that since they're Architects and Engineers, they know what they're doing.
	Gage wouldn't even allow discussion of who was responsible and why.
	He offered a flimsy, falsified theory about how the World Trade Center built the Twin Towers out of sprite using nanothermite and had a group out there promoting the idea that a plane had really hit the Pentagon.
	That was all bad.
	That was all false.
	And I say, good riddance to bad rubbish.
	Oh, interesting.
	We're getting some kind of feedback going.
	I'm not sure where that's coming from.
	Everyone's muted, but Joe, maybe Joe, if you can mute when, or if you have some headphones, that would be great.
	Kim, I was not aware that Richard Gage had resigned.
	That's very interesting.
	That's very interesting.
	Let's move on to Mr. Mike Gatti.
	Mike, what are your thoughts on 9-11 20 years later, sir?
	Well, due to, pardon me, due to my previous association with the internal workings of this tyrannical organization we call government, I saw it as just a continuation of the master psyop that has been in effect since 1947.
	They knew they had to do this gradually.
	They knew that they couldn't do it all at once.
	But you did have to have some epic events.
	And if you go back to the Project for the New American Century, they tried to push this event onto Bill Clinton, but Bill Clinton was all tangled up in a blue dress.
	So they had to hold off on that, and if you look at the movers and shakers of the Project for the New American Century, you will find that by some coincidence, they all ended up, or most all of them ended up, in the George W. Bush regime.
	Well, that's quite a coincidence, Mike.
	Yeah, so what we're looking at, and this Dave is something most Americans, but I'm sure that would not be the folks on this panel, but most Americans are totally unaware that this has been a massive psychological operation and has been ongoing since 1947 when we created the Christians in Action group, which Americans know as CIA, and when we Converted and gave Allen Dulles and his brother Jay Foster Douglas so much power and put them into the CIA, put Dulles into the CIA.
	And the CIA has been involved in, they were never intended to do this, but now the CIA eventually was taken over by all of the bankers.
	The bankers then begin to use the CIA to control the United States military to accomplish their purposes, and the PSYOPs that have been created through this subterfuge just continue to bring fruit for the privileged few.
	Well, that's so true, Mike.
	And we even have, I think we've reached the point too, where we have sort of a committee of psychologists and intelligence agents that sit down and write the news script for us, at least all the major events that will be happening, to have the maximum psychological impact to manipulate the population in the direction they want.
	It's like, yeah, go ahead.
	Well, exactly, Dave.
	I'm sorry, I didn't mean to step on you there.
	Go back and look.
	The CIA came out with an entire directive to bring about, so we could call anyone who caught on to their schemes, is to immediately denigrate those people by calling them conspiracy theorists.
	And, of course, they've added words and phrases after that over the decades since then to Bring everybody into effect.
	If you dare question what the government is doing, you must be either a conspiracy theorist, a racist, an anti-Semite.
	They're going to find something to call you if you publish the truth.
	Absolutely.
	I think that's the great giveaway.
	If someone says something and the people come after them as domestic terrorists or conspiracy theorists or whatever the program may be, we know that those people are probably preaching the truth.
	Absolutely.
	Another tell, too, was the fact that they chose 9-11 as the date, as though a bunch of terrorists in Afghanistan and Iraq or wherever sat around thinking, oh, let's make the the the date of our
	attack on 9-11.
	Ha ha ha ha.
	It's obviously this was chosen for maximum psychological impact
	upon the American public.
	Let's let's switch over to Joe Olson, who, you know, I believe has a very unique
	set of skills and knowledge about 9-11 and other things as well.
	Joe, thank you for coming on.
	And what what is your sort of 20 year perspective upon this event
	and how it relates to this push to make Americans turn over their sovereignty of their bodies to the
	government?
	Thank you.
	Yeah, well this has been 110 years of PSYOP operations, with the Federal Reserve and the Income Tax Illegal Acts, and then World War I, they tried to drag us in with sinking of the Lusitania, well that didn't work, they sunk the intercoastal ferry Essex in the English Channel, and that didn't work, so then after Woodrow Wilson got elected, before he got inaugurated, they came up with the Zimmerman Telegraph, in Mexico to drag us into World War I, then FDR absolutely knew about Pearl Harbor months in advance.
	Gulf of Tonkin was a staged event.
	USS Liberty was a staged event.
	I'm a trained structural engineer and I've spent probably 10,000 hours in the last 20 years reviewing all the material On 9-1-1, I was invited by Robert David Steele to write a memo to the president.
	And this was in July of 2018.
	He said, you can't have more than an 800 word presentation because Mr. Trump won't read more than two pages.
	And you have to include pictures.
	So I wrote an article called Memorandum of the President, Twin Towers Destroyed Using Clean Nukes.
	And you can see very clearly in the photo that's attached to this that you have pyroclastic flow of material flowing up out of the core of the building and cascading over the sides of the building.
	A year later I was going to be a guest on Coast to Coast and they cover the 9-1-1 events and they've had Judy Gage I mean, Richard Gage and Judy Wood's on, so I thought, well, maybe they'd want to cover this.
	So I wrote an article called Unequivocal 9-1-1 Nukes, which, by coincidence, was the same title of my first interview I had with James Fetzer, March 16, 2015.
	This shows the actual FEMA drawings showing the construction of the exterior Van der Waal trusses on the buildings.
	They're incredibly strong.
	1,350 feet tall, 205 feet wide, five acres of surface area.
	They were made to withstand 120 mile an hour wind loads.
	They had five hurricanes during the 30 years that the buildings are standing.
	They didn't have a broken pane of glass.
	So you didn't knock those down with jet airliners or box cutters.
	One of my readers contacted me and said, Olson, you need to read the Palmer Report.
	So I read the Palmer Report, which was translated by Jeff Prager and includes 40 PowerPoint slides, three 90-minute videos going through the entire sequence of those slides.
	And I forwarded it over to Veterans Today.
	Gordon Duff went, oh my God, this is a European physicist, four European physicists, independently verifying everything that Veterans Today had said in their 80 nuclear education articles, which I had read contemporaneously as those articles are being posted.
	So he posted it at Veterans Today called Breathtaking Solving Nuclear 9-1-1.
	I'll put that down in the show notes when we get this posted.
	But they did a great job and they showed, like I said, 40 slides and one of the slides mentioned something about iron having four stable isotopes.
	And I went, wait a minute, if it's got 4 stable isotopes, it's got, what, 20 radioactive isotopes?
	I look it up, sure enough, what are the other elements that make up a concrete and steel building?
	You have iron, you have carbon, you have silicon, and you have calcium.
	And together they have 93 available stable and radioactive isotopes.
	The radioactive isotopes have an average half-life of about 2 to 3 months.
	So that gives you the 2500 degree temperature in the basement of the building.
	There was a 2.2 Richter scale explosion under each of the twin towers exactly 12 seconds prior to the initiation.
	of the collapse of those buildings.
	I wrote about this in the article also posted at Veterans Today called Exposing NIST's 9-1-1 Jenga Game.
	And today I went to the only memorial service that I could find in the state of Texas in a town called Prosper, which is about 30-40 miles north of Dallas.
	So I went all the way to Dallas so I could go out to this event.
	They had it at a stadium that could probably hold 10,000 students.
	Fans it's a very large sports stadium and there was probably 300 people there they had a section of one of the wide flange columns out of the center of the building and everybody was going up touching it like oh it's like a sacred iconic object and I looked at it and I went no way that you did that with jet fuel no way you did that with Thermite, no way you did that with a satellite-based dew weapon.
	Those were bunker busters placed in Elevator 30 and exploded up through the core of the building.
	I've also written 10 great articles, several of them posted at Jane Fetzer's site.
	This one's called Right to Try Voodoo at Principle Scientific, and definitely it's the unpunished terrorists from 9-1-1 that are running the Chinese cootie plague and the genocide jab project on all of the world.
	Wow.
	That's a great connection you're making there, Joe.
	I totally agree.
	Totally.
	Let's switch over to Darrell Wayne, a retired pilot who also has a very unique perspective and is quite a deep thinker.
	Darrell, what's your thoughts on 9-11 and its relation to Operation COVID Hoax 20 years later?
	Hey, listen, it's great to be here.
	Amongst this crew of the glorious and the notorious, I guess you would call them.
	The glorious and the notorious on this infamous day of infamy.
	Well, there's so much to dig into here.
	Everybody's bringing up some great points.
	It's always very productive because you get all these different Mike and I were on a different platform about five years ago.
	ideas, like John Foster Dulles, well he's a hero. They named Dulles Airport after him.
	So, that's the significance of a hero. So in their mind, the days, they're a hero.
	So I, you know, Mike and I were on a different platform about five years ago. It's been that
	long Mike. And I identified, we were having a conversation and I identified that 9-11,
	that was the day that the Zionist corporate United States attacked America.
	Right.
	This is what we're dealing with.
	If you can't comprehend, or the people out here that can't comprehend the in your face aspects of this, you're doomed.
	And you will have no, absolutely no possibility of surviving any of what is coming, not even a chance.
	So I tend to associate myself with people who are clear eyed, clear thinking, and can work a problem.
	So Joel, Nice to meet you, by the way, Joel.
	I don't think we've ever had the opportunity to speak with each other.
	For the last 10 or 20 years, we've been slow-walked off the cliff.
	This is part of the long march of the travelers, and they have reached their destination.
	They have arrived.
	They've slow-walked everybody, the perspectives They've used pretext, pretenses, plausible deniability.
	This is what has occurred on 9-11 going forward, as the PSYOP is, is that fearful people wanted a reason.
	Goober Bush gives them a narrative.
	They're desperate to accept one.
	And so they're propagandized, and then they continue to repeat this to themselves.
	And this is what propaganda does.
	It gives you a talking narrative which you can use on yourself over and over again.
	It's like your little, you know, like your little soma pill.
	So anyway, yeah, the day that the Zionist corporate United States attacked America, By the way, that attack has never stopped, and this is why we're dealing with the destruction of what's ever left of this carcass.
	It's being cannibalized as we talk.
	So we've moved into the cannibalization process through not only Physical assets, finances, and the people!
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	They're cannibalizing the people now, and genocide, genocide.
	It's the rape of the mind, as the psychologist, Dutch psychologist, talked about.
	And this is, listen, it doesn't matter in all It doesn't matter if it's a needle or a penis.
	If they're forcing it into you and you don't want it, it's called rape.
	And so that's sort of my interesting shot across the brow.
	Good afternoon, everybody.
	I have a question, however, about why you talk about American corporations declaring war on America.
	This was a neocon Dual U.S.-Israeli strike on America in order to provide a pseudo-justification for U.S.
	forces to go into the Middle East and take out the modern Arab states that serve as a counterbalance to Israel's domination of the entire region and eventually to confront the Persian nation of Iran.
	The evidence of Israeli involvement is simply overwhelming.
	From the security team, the ICTS at the airports, to the salvage team that provided that piece of debris from a crash in Cali, Colombia in 1995, Bibi Netanyahu and Ehud Olmert appear to have been the brain trust behind all this, where Richard Gage, I mean Dick Cheney appears to have been the executive director on 9-11 from beneath a bunker.
	So, I find 9-11 the responsibility of the CIA, the neocons in the Department of Defense, most of whom came from the Project for a New American Century and were dual U.S.
	and American citizens, and the most sought, non-American corporations, though I agree, united and American, knew what the hell was going on, claiming their planes had crashed, and two of them weren't even in the air, and the other two were still in the air after they'd purportedly Ben hit the South Tower and crashed in Shanksville.
	So I think the situation politically has a very different character than to attribute it to American corporations.
	Let me jump in for a second.
	Hey, Joe Olson and everyone, if you're not speaking, please mute your mic.
	We just heard you rinse out a cup, Joe.
	And also, Scorpio, we have Dennis Camino on Blackburn 9, Frederic C. Blackburn here as well.
	I don't know if you're aware of that.
	Oh, absolutely.
	Let's get their take on things before we really get into a real discussion here.
	Let's get an opening statement for both of them, and then I want to hand the baton over to you, Giuseppe, and see where you want to take things.
	Blackbird9, first of all, Blackbird, I want to thank you for, you know, keeping the show going and filling in, and I've heard some great things about what you did.
	I just really appreciate all of that.
	Thank you so much.
	And I want to get your take, your perspective on 9-11 20 years later, and how you believe it connects to Operation COVID Hoax.
	Go ahead, sir.
	Greetings, good sirs.
	Thank you so much for inviting me to this panel.
	Like the illustrious and notorious, however, I think I probably fall over in the notorious pile, but I am pleased to be included, despite all my warts, as they say.
	But anyway, yes, I guess I'd like to thank you for letting me use the stage, and Mr. Giuseppe for helping out.
	For those who don't know, Giuseppe and I just got off of our very successful Off-off-off-off-Broadway production of 9-11 was fake and gay in three parts, and I'd like to thank you again, Mr. Giuseppe, for filling in.
	The honor was mine.
	There's a go-go in our three-act play.
	But anyway, so yes, I guess to sum up, you know, it was an act three, so 9-11, you know, okay, we This is complete synthetic material.
	We know how this works.
	This is, you know, how game theory operates.
	This is how media warfare operates.
	And so it's like, you know, 9-11 was just one of many in this long game that our adversary is playing against us.
	And I think for so many of us, it was the wake-up call of, you know, just how big this, you know, beast we're fighting really is.
	And today, watching all the known things we disproved in the 9-11 movement, you know, early on, like I tell everybody that, you know, I became a 9-11 truther on 9-11 with my, you know, oh, hell no moments with WTC7 and the magic cell phone calls.
	But I just, you know, they keep trying to push this false narrative that we have completely knocked down that talking point, yet you're using it for its war atrocity, psychological use.
	And so Shultz and Neatson said, we know they are lying.
	They know they are lying.
	They know that we know they are lying.
	We know that they know that we know they're lying, and still they continue to lie.
	And he was describing, of course, the same model when it was applied against the Russians under the Bolsheviks.
	Echo, echo, echo.
	So anyway, so that's just kind of where I'm at two decades into this.
	Back over to you.
	Well, great observations, and you know, yes, those fake cell phone calls from the airplanes have been thoroughly debunked for a long time.
	I watched a clip of the NBC Nightly News, and they even played a bunch of those clips.
	It's sort of a personal human moment in this.
	horrible history just to tug on people's heartstrings and make it all seem real and personal and
	Lastly, let's go to Dennis Camino Before I had the baton over to Giuseppe Dennis, please
	Give us your thoughts on 9-11 20 years later, and thank you for coming on sir go ahead
	Can you hear me okay on that end yes, sir All right
	Good afternoon gentlemen It's a pleasure and an honor to discuss it with you today.
	The issue with 9-11 is that it was obviously in the can for a long time before they pulled it out of their dank asses.
	The David Addington role in penning the The Patriot Act, which is anything but a Patriot Act, way in advance.
	The thing obviously took a great deal of time to pull out of some Talmudic rectum to spring it on the United States.
	But this was obviously a plan many, many years before it came out.
	And the preparation for it, for that kind of advanced planning interval in front of it is is moderately poor because any number of things, you know, we can cite for weeks all the mistakes that they made on 9-11 relative to the nonsensical crap that they pulled with the fake cell phone calls.
	You can't talk from a regular cell phone from an aircraft moving at high speed at high altitude.
	It does not work.
	cannot happen because of the way the towers themselves are looking for a six-decibel difference
	in the signal strength.
	When you're up high, you have an issue where the signal strength criterion is hard to meet
	because of the fact that the aircraft presents a universal signal strength picture to so
	many ground towers.
	So they're all seeing the signal.
	They all have to decide which one is going to handle the call.
	And at flight levels, first off, the signal strength from your handheld unit is minimal
	once it finds its way out of a porthole, which is a tiny window, because the aircraft itself
	is not an antenna.
	It acts like a Faraday cage, even though it's aluminum.
	So that doesn't work.
	You get down to 2,000 feet at slow speed, you might get a cell connection for seconds, because I've done this in a number of different venues and found out that that's the only regime you can get a cell phone to work in.
	Most of the planes' cell phones were, I mean, seat back phones, didn't exist on 9-11 because they were unprofitable.
	Nobody was using them, so it was weight you didn't need to fly with.
	Anyway, I don't want to go on and on and hog the show, but they made so many egregious mistakes, but they knew that nobody was going to point a discerning eye towards them, and that's why they got away with it.
	So anyway, guys, chime in and let me know what you think.
	Okay, Dennis, those are some great observations, and people are saying you're coming in a little hot, so if you can just back away from your mic just a little bit, I think you'll get a better sound from the show.
	But yeah, the whole cell phone thing has been debunked for a long time, and what I'd like to do now is to hand over the baton to my co-host, Giuseppe.
	Giuseppe, go ahead, sir.
	Where do you want to take this?
	Well first, I'll answer 20 years later by describing the moments where I witnessed the second plane not hit the Twin Towers, which was, I had just moved to New Mexico in July, which was only two months earlier, so we were in this wondrous new kind of experience of I take that back.
	I had moved two years earlier.
	Strike that from the record, Unit 8200.
	Anyway, my wife had called me.
	We lived outside Silver City, New Mexico, and she had already gone into work, called me.
	Back then, you had those Cordless phone so I hear the cordless phones ring, and I pick it up, and I go just turn on the TV We're being attacked, and I'm like I turned it on within five minutes to see the purported second plane hit the Hit that and I was on the phone with her live when when?
	when that happened, and I'm and I immediately said to her and she's a credible witness and That isn't real.
	That can't happen.
	And here's what I based it on.
	In the 90s, the one high-paying corporate job I ever had was I was a regional sales manager during the CD-ROM production boom.
	And so I used to travel all around the country to wine and dine and babysit big clients.
	I was the person who was responsible for that first CD-ROM inserted into Windows Magazine back in the day.
	That was the first million CD-ROM order ever and that was my client.
	So the reason I knew that it was fake is because one time I used to travel all the time.
	And airplanes.
	And one time, we were lifting off, and all of a sudden, we have to land, emergency land, because the pilot had hit a goose.
	And literally, we're getting off the plane when it swung back around, and I witnessed the damage that that bird had done to the nose of the plane.
	And so I could go on and on.
	And because I used to have to carry this heavy laptop, I'm thinking, Uh, you know, when they're telling the story about how these these little five foot three cocaine sniffing stripper loving Taliban overwhelmed planes to take control and I'm thinking,
	You know, if I was on that plane, I had a 30-pound bag full of computer things, and I'll take my chances with some little five-foot so-called Muslim with a box cutter, right?
	So everything they kept saying, I just knew immediately was a lie.
	I'm watching this and I'm astonished at what I'm witnessing and so to me this goes back to the roots are in the early 20th century with the Frankfurt Group and the next hundred and ten years of the study and implementation of mind control because how could anybody believe that story?
	And so I would I'd like to ask the panel, and I guess we'll begin with Jim Fetzer, is, Jim, when did you realize it was a scam?
	Because to this day, people believe the official story, at least probably, I would, I don't know, somewhere between 40 and 60% of the American goyim cattle believe this lie.
	And so Jim, when did you wake up to that this was not what it seemed?
	What was watching the description of the Twin Towers coming down as collapses, which I knew was physically and from an engineering point of view impossible, I remember so clearly thinking to myself, as this was shown on television, This isn't even possible!
	But when will I ever be in a position to do anything about it?
	Ironically, it would turn out in December 2005, I was in the midst of a discussion thread with, oh, two dozen experts from all over the world, when the idea occurred to me of founding a loose affiliation, a society that could bring all the resources together, promote lectures, publish articles and the like, and founded Scholars for 9-11 Truth.
	But Giuseppe was witnessing the impossible on television, and the way it was being described, where anyone can see these buildings are blowing apart in every direction from the top down, all the floors are remaining stationary, waiting to be blown to kingdom come in the memorable phrase of Morgan Reynolds, they're being converted into millions of cubic yards of very fine dust, and when it's over, There is nothing left!
	Had these been a collapse, then as in the case with Building 7, there should have been a stack of debris equal to about 12% of the original height.
	That 47 floors yield 5 1⁄2 floors.
	There should have been 13 1⁄2 floors!
	Look at the image that the Wisconsin State Journal put right on the cover.
	They don't seem to understand that showing that absence of those stacks of debris means the buildings did not collapse and something else was at work, which ought to have been obvious, but you see the power of suggestion.
	This is why they ran up the Harley shirt guy to say, oh, well, whenever, you know, everyone's scratching their head wondering what the hell happened.
	He rushes up and says, oh, the intent fire from the jet base fires must have weakened the steel so it collapsed, and then the falling floors brought down other floors.
	Preposterous!
	I have a retired high school math, physics, and chemistry Teacher who calculated that for every unit of downward force from those top floors, say in the North Tower, there are 188 units of upward force.
	Collapse wasn't even possible.
	In fact, it's fascinating.
	Even Donald Trump, the day of 9-11, was interviewed on local television and explained how the same builders So it constructed the World Trade Center.
	We're working for him now.
	And it's not possible that the jet fuel could have caused the buildings to collapse or the buildings could have brought about their destruction.
	Something else had to be involved.
	He mentioned bombs, by which he meant, of course, an additional source of massive energy.
	He was spot on then.
	And it's only a tragedy that he was Somehow inhibited from following through on this, among as many other proposals to reveal the truth about 9-11.
	You know, everybody here has stories that I'd like to get to on the panel about when you knew it was a fake and gay.
	And I'd like to ask Daryl Wayne, though, because his story is amazing.
	He was the first commercial pilot to fly over 9-1-1.
	And Daryl, you could describe what you saw when you saw that smoldering wreckage and also how you and other professional elite pilots attempted to replicate that masterful flying job piloting the plane into the Twin Towers.
	If you could describe that, Darryl, that would be great.
	Sure, sure, sure, Gouverneur.
	Before I address that, I just want to Uh, respond to, to Jim's, uh, Jim Fetzer's, uh, comment.
	And it, I apologize, Jim.
	I, I, uh, I tend to be a little hyperbole sometimes and it's just my nature.
	And so when I, when I refer to design as corporate United States, I'm referring to the deep state.
	So, uh, I, I don't think the, uh, airliners or America had anything to do with that.
	It was the deep state.
	Well, actually, actually, the airlines were complicit because they were
	confirming these plane crashes, which had not taken place, had taken place.
	And I think they're using it for leverage, you know, against
	the government ever since.
	It's like Biden has made an exception of the postal workers from these mandatory vaccines.
	That's because the postal workers know how the election of 2020 was stolen.
	So we have all these complex interactions and blackmail going on within the United States by various groups and factions.
	It is stunning.
	Well, I, I think that whatever exact language we use and impart upon that, I think we can all agree that there's collusion at the deepest and darkest and highest levels.
	So, uh, I think we can, we can all agree on that.
	Uh, specifically me on the day of 9-11, um, I was in Milwaukee.
	I flew for Midwest Airlines.
	I was a, at that time I was a junior captain.
	And I had a friend from Chicago who was a captain for a regional airline on the highway.
	And he was he was staying at my home in Bayview, Wisconsin.
	We call him a crash pad, you know, where pilots get together and hang out between their trips.
	And we were sitting there having breakfast.
	He was getting ready to go to Washington DC at Reagan National and I was scheduled for flight number two for to go to New York LaGuardia that morning and we're so we're both in uniform having whatever we were eating for breakfast.
	My friends wife from Chicago calls and says are you watching the TV?
	We go no.
	She goes turn it on.
	And so we turn the TV on and.
	About like Giuseppe, about five minutes into watching this, we see what appears to be a wide-body jet airliner doing a high-speed descending arcing turn into the Second Trade Center, where there's following an explosion, and we just sort of look at each other.
	And as I remember it, the first comment to each other was, well, I guess we're not going to work today.
	And So, we both just sat down on the couch and watched, and... Okay, Daryl, hold that thought.
	We're at the top of the hour already.
	So, we'll be right back with hour number two.
	Stay tuned.
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	Hey, I found that Harley guy clip.
	Maybe right after the break I'll play that, Scorpio, to bring in Hour 2.
	What do you think?
	Yeah, let's play that, and then we'll let Daryl finish up his thought, and we'll continue around the roundtable.
	That sounds great.
	Okay, sounds great.
	Yeah, this has been phenomenal.
	Salute to every one of you gentlemen.
	Daryl can't hear us, but you guys are just... This is what a roundtable should be, you know?
	Succinct, vital descriptions and commentary without a bunch of blather.
	You guys are doing a phenomenal job.
	Yeah, I want to thank everyone for coming on.
	This is just a fantastic collection of great minds, let's say.
	Joe, you've pointed this out before in your discourse, that one thing that's so interesting about the mini-nuke theory is that it really sort of whittles down the potential subjects to a handful, maybe five or six maximum, You know, it's not some Doctor No character, you know, operating from the shadows somewhere.
	I mean, there's literally only a handful of entities that could have possibly done this.
	And they were all state players.
	You're talking highly sophisticated nuclear weapons that probably didn't weigh more than 300 pounds.
	And if you follow the 80 article series of Veterans Today, they describe exactly how they were brought in.
	under diplomatic cover by Israeli agents and stockpiled at Fort Dedrick area across the
	river from the island and they show exactly how they were brought into the buildings.
	We know all this stuff.
	But the bottom line is it's more than just Israel because Israel's just the hitman for
	this group.
	It goes back to the Privy Council and the Crown and the East India Company, and it's the City of London banking system.
	So we can get into that briefly in the next segment.
	Absolutely.
	And you know, I think one thing that it's easy to sort of get caught up in this quagmire of thinking there's all these different groups, there's all these different corporations.
	And you know, one thing that we've seen with Operation COVID is that they're all operating under the same exact ideological perspective, the same worldview.
	And so, really what it comes down to is, they have a unified front, and if Operation COVID hasn't proven that one thing, you know, that's certainly an obvious tell here, is that we have such an ideological unity at the top.
	I think it comes down to the fact that the proto-Zionist Or, you know, they're in the fore of everything.
	I mean, they're at the heart of all... Okay, everybody stand by.
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	Okay, here we go, Harley Riders.
	It was approximately several minutes after the first plane had hit, I saw this plane come out of nowhere and just scream right into the side of the Twin Tower, exploding through the other side.
	And then I witnessed both towers collapse, one first and then the second, mostly due to structural failure because the fire was... You see, there were a lot of people inside the buildings at the time from the 7th Precinct.
	There you go, Harley guy.
	He sussed it out real quick.
	He was a pretty bright Harley guy.
	A lot of those Harley guys that you see, they're like real men, but they're not thinkers.
	But that guy turned out to be a thinker, too.
	Hey, easy now, Double G. Well, it's amazing how they got the right costume on the guy just to make it look like he's just an average guy on the street.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I enjoyed the Harley guy there.
	Five minutes after.
	So, Darrell, why don't you finish up your thought that you were starting at the top of the hour.
	Yeah, yeah, I enjoyed the Harley guy there.
	We all know that most of these guys are material and structural engineers and we appreciate that.
	So, moving forward here, I'll go quickly here.
	I want to hear what the other guys have to say.
	Over the course of today, I knew that none of the protocols or procedures associated with Air Intercept cockpit activities had taken place for the narrative to be correct to overcome and taken Command of four separate airliners in four separate situations would be improbable from the standpoint of my training and as also as a flight instructor for the airlines.
	So anyway, all the flights were canceled.
	There was nothing in the air.
	On the next day, let's see, what was it?
	On the next evening, I get a call from crew scheduling.
	They say that they have secured a special flight waiver for a flight to be conducted Thursday evening to Columbus, Ohio to position a DC-9 and crew.
	I was to be the captain And they already had the crew lined up, the flight attendants and the co-pilot.
	And I said, well, okay.
	So I show up Thursday afternoon.
	The crew joins up.
	We discuss what we're going to do.
	We board the craft.
	We position it to Columbus, Ohio.
	Spend the night in Columbus, Ohio.
	We get up very early, Friday morning and depart from LaGuardia.
	We approach from the south, we come over the water, fly over the Statue of Liberty, which I refer to as the Whore in the Harbor, and we fly up the East River.
	I'm the flying pilot.
	I actually had my camera with me, which I always carried.
	So we were flying the arrival into LaGuardia.
	It was the mass death tank arrival and I transferred controls over to my co-pilot.
	He was flying the aircraft and as we flew over the top, over the East River, I was able to look straight down into the smoking holes and I took a bunch of pictures and you could actually see the Still glowing embers of whatever it was down there that was still glowing just two and a half days later.
	We transfer controls back to me, fly the Arrival into New York LaGuardia.
	It's a very strange, surreal experience.
	I think other pilots and Dennis will understand it.
	There was no radio chatter, there was nothing else in the sky.
	I landed LaGuardia, it's like out of a Stephen King movie, and the Langoliers.
	Usually when you land in LaGuardia, you know, you get the nose wheel on, you get some forward pressure on it, and you get the buckets out, and you're in the reverse, you know, to get these pit pigs slowed down.
	And as soon as you turn off, you've got to be ready to take a rapid-fire taxi clearance from a New York controller, and they don't mess around.
	And there was nothing there.
	There was no other planes.
	I got the strangest taxi clearance.
	It said, yeah, taxi to the gate.
	Definitely.
	It's just, you know, find your way to the gate.
	I mean, that would never happen at New York LaGuardia.
	And so we get there, we pick everybody up.
	They're kind of freaked out, the passengers, and we pretty much had a plane load.
	I think I probably had, I think I probably had about 90 passengers.
	we're flying back to Milwaukee and that's the end of the story. So, um,
	why, why do we, why do we take, why did I take away from all that?
	Well, we were kind of thrown out there without really any instructions.
	Management didn't talk to us.
	They called us up.
	They said, go fly.
	And so we followed all of our procedures and our common training as a crew would.
	And we talked amongst ourselves.
	If there was any trouble, what we would do.
	Because we were sort of, you know, left out there to our own resources, so to speak.
	Yeah, as time went on, and I listened more, and I watched more, and more information came out, it became readily apparent, I was extremely aware that no intercept protocols had been followed.
	As far as I could tell, crew procedures of a common strategy weren't followed.
	You have to understand that, and I don't know, I'm sure Dennis is aware of this, but I don't know how many other people are, but inside those cockpits in every airliner, whether it be a 757 or the DC-9 I was flying, standard equipment on your equipment list is too heavy.
	Besides the pilot, you have a, about a two foot long, 18 inches, something like that, a crash ax.
	This thing looks like something out of the movie Conan the Barbarian.
	Okay.
	It's this, it's this, it's, it's very sharp and it's designed to cut through, uh, plastic, uh, steel, aluminum, and anything else that gets in the way.
	Okay.
	And so all four of those cockpits that were supposedly overcome with plastic box cutters, those guys were armed and would have known that they had a crash axe.
	I can assure you they would have used it.
	So I just want to make one quick more comment here.
	I listened to Dennis And you, Giuseppe, and Jim on your show on Thursday, wasn't it?
	No, the event is Wednesday.
	Wednesday, I'm sorry.
	I just have to shout out to Dennis.
	That was a master class.
	You taught me a few things there.
	Absolutely, it was a master class.
	I'll pass the baton here.
	I know we got a lot of Good guys here.
	Well, Daryl, just let me ask you a brief follow-up question on your experience.
	What were your thoughts when you saw this smoldering red hole in the ground when you flew over it?
	it.
	And quite honestly, Dave, I didn't spend a lot of time.
	I was trying to document it.
	I honestly quite honestly Dave I didn't I didn't spend a lot of time. I was trying to document it
	I really wasn't trying to analyze it and
	So I did a lot of I did a lot of thinking and analyzing later
	to be honest about it. So I Thank you.
	I mean, I could say this too, as the years went on, all of us pilots, after the captains, we had to re-qualify every six months and we would get simulator training at different places.
	And very expensive simulators, and we would complete our training, our re-qualification, and then we always had, you know, 10-15 minutes, sometimes a half an hour of extra time.
	The simulator time's already paid for, so you might as well use it.
	And on, I just can't even tell you how many times that we, to hit the buildings, the towers in the simulator, and the Pentagon.
	And, uh, and there was a, uh, a number of really hot pilots at Midwest, some really good ones and, and ex military pilots.
	And, uh, uh, I I'm not aware of anybody ever successfully completing any, uh, hitting the towers or, uh, the Pentagon and, you know, in a, in a simulator by no one, no one's ever done it.
	If somebody out there has, you know, I'd like to see the fly track.
	You understand that according to the reported operating speeds of 500 miles an hour or 500 knots, and I thought Dennis did a brilliant job of discussing the aerodynamics on that, but And he was absolutely right.
	But at 500 knots at a mile out, you're covering the ground at about six seconds a mile.
	In six seconds, you've covered a mile at those speeds.
	And if you are just one degree off at a mile, within the next six seconds, you have to correct for that.
	And the controls You don't have the time to do that.
	You won't be able to respond to it or correct for it.
	So in a descending left-hand, right-hand turn by inexperienced pilots at a mile out, they would have had six seconds to correct.
	And let's see, the math is if you're just one degree off at a mile out, you're going to miss it by 100 foot.
	And so that That sort of addresses the impossibility of these guys pulling any of this off.
	Let me just comment that Rob Bassalmo, the founder of Pilots for 9-11 Truth, who has recently expired, claimed that he was the only one of the members of Pilots and Simulators who could succeed after the group had tried like 27 times, he three or four, and was able to do it once or so he claimed.
	Yeah, well there, that pretty much supports the experience that I had, Jim, and everybody else I knew.
	So, anybody who is still holding on to these ideas that any part of this narrative is accurate, is, you're, regrettably, you're lost.
	And you have You have fell into this extremely deep hole, cognitive hole, and I'd like to share with you just what that hole is.
	It's this thing called cognitive dissonance, yeah?
	And this cognitive dissonance is manifest in a society or an individual When it's observed that contradictions have been reconciled irrationally, and this is what people are doing, they're irrationally reconciling these contradictions, and I don't know what... Jim, guys, I don't know what specific additional piece of individual information anybody's ever going to supply to any of these people that have been consumed and subsumed their
	Reality as it's been presented to him, I just, I have no hope for him.
	Yeah, when you talk about preposterous piloting, you got Hany Hadjour, who's supposed to have executed this, like, 360 descent that no pilot has been able to replicate in regard to the G-Force, because it's so great it would have been impossible to actually take a plane through that, where Hany Hadjour couldn't even fly a Cessna.
	And the idea you could put him into a 757 and he could manage his way is simply absurd.
	Yeah, that sums it up quite well.
	I think you want Dennis to comment because he heard some very flattering remarks and I do think Dennis was superb on
	the event.
	Oh yes.
	You guys throw way too many accolades my direction, but I sure appreciate it.
	The thing that was kind, you know, I watched it.
	I was in a test lab at Lockheed Martin in Eagan, Minnesota and a co-worker came in.
	I usually was in there first like at 5 in the morning, but he showed up and told me that this has happened and I asked him what was the weather and he said clear and then I said Was anybody on their tail, you know, were they intercepted?
	He said no.
	And then we got a TV working and looked at it.
	And all I had to see was one shot of the South Tower entry and the plane effortlessly, without
	any reaction between the building and the plane, slide into it like the plane was a
	hot knife and the building was warm butter.
	And I looked at it and I said, ìThis is bullshit.î And Wagner, David Wagner, my co-worker, he
	goes, ìWell, what do you mean itís bullshit?î I said, ìWell, itís impossible.
	This canít fucking happen like that.î And, you know, after about an hour other people
	came down to the lab and asked me what I thought and I said, ìItís just fucking bullshit.î
	We're looking at computer-generated crap.
	It's not real.
	And then, within two or three hours, management came down and, you know, my boss, Bruce Peterson, came down and said, you can't talk about that like this in this building.
	You know, you can't say that here.
	And I said, it's the fucking truth.
	You know, what do you want me to tell you?
	I said, you know, based on what I've heard, you guys tooled around and controlled airspace in the positive control area for more than an hour without intercept?
	Are you fucking crazy?
	I've been intercepted, you know, not because I broke the rules, but because I was going through military airspace on my way to Inyokern Airport for an interview.
	And I had to go right past the test facility out there at Edwards.
	I had a couple left 16 so one was on my ass and one was on my wing and we saluted each other and everything when
	everything broke off, but But there's no way on this planet that these guys would
	have been able to breach their clearances So egregiously without you know multiple airplanes going to
	see him, and I I covered why it didn't happen They couldn't they couldn't have these pilots. You know and
	interceptors Trying to lock radar onto a target that didn't exist
	because it wasn't in that space So, you know, the whole thing was nonsense and complete utter bullshit.
	And I knew it instantly that it was bullshit.
	And I was, and when I told other people about it, you know, half the people, because they knew I was a pilot, they said, well, what the, what the, how the hell can they get away with this?
	You know, I said a lot of people had to be in on it from the very highest levels for this kind of crap to go on.
	So, the American public, unfortunately, is very gullible and very stupid, and cartoon crap that they put on, which is exactly what 9-11 was.
	It was an elaborate cartoon and a hoax.
	That's something, after watching Wile E. Coyote and all that other crap, that's the mindset Americans have.
	I'll leave it to you gentlemen to pick it up from there, but it was just bullshit, utter nonsense.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	The lack of resistance, just sliding right into the building like it was butter, that's a very good analogy.
	Let's hear from the Rebel Madman, Mike Gatti.
	Mike, what's your perspective?
	When did you realize something was really wrong?
	Well, at the time, Dave, I was living with my family in Tucson, Arizona, and I had an order that day to proceed to Flagstaff, Arizona, to pick up some important folks and to make sure that they arrived safely in Albuquerque, New Mexico.
	And that morning before I left, I watched on TV the second plane And when I also saw the inaction of the Secret Service at the school and the goat story by George W. Bush, I knew it was a hoax.
	I knew protocol from the Secret Service.
	I knew that they would never let him sit there, George Bush, sit there and read a book about goats if America was under attack, which was obvious.
	I knew then that it was false.
	As I was traveling that day, And talking with various personnel, including some people I had served with in that oxymoronic field of military and government intelligence, I began to get calls from people I had who were also operators back in my day, and the consensus was from all these people that this was one classic
	Wonderful, wonderfully executed operation, and I really appreciate, Dennis, your explanation there, because it was exactly right, but one of my cohorts called me.
	I had not reached Flagstaff, Arizona yet, And I got a phone call from one of my ex-cohorts and he said, hey, he said, we are on Operation Nexus.
	And I said, what?
	And he said, yes.
	Well, for people who are unaware of that, that means that the command structure of the United States is in an underground bunker in Berryville, Virginia.
	Now, and that was Cheney.
	And as soon as I heard that, I was also totally aware that this was a planned operation.
	Because there was no reason, and then another caller called me later and said, do you realize that the F-16s that operate out of Andrews Air Force Base, that fly CAP for Washington DC, never left the ground all day long.
	That had to be a stand-down order.
	So again, the things begin to come into Focus for me that this was all classic, uh, classic operation.
	And, uh, you know, and I kept thinking of Operation Northwoods as I listened to this.
	And, uh, then it, uh, there were just so many things that happened.
	I finally arrived in Albuquerque.
	Albuquerque was like a ghost town on the night of September 11th.
	I arrived in Albuquerque and I, uh, went to the hotel where I was supposed to, uh, take my folks and pick up another group of folks.
	And, uh, The folks that were to arrive there hadn't arrived, so I was left in Albuquerque for three days.
	During that time frame, I talked with an awful lot of former associates, and one of my associates with the No Such Agency gave me a fantastic scenario of what had happened.
	And of course, it's no way that can be substantiated.
	But he went into great detail about where those three planes, once they took off, where they all landed and what was done with the passengers from that point forward.
	Of course, that is an unprovable event.
	But anyway, that was my day.
	And then As I was approaching Albuquerque about 5.30 that afternoon, and I heard about World Trade Center Building No.
	7 going straight down, and then I also had a friend of mine call me and said, hey, did you know that the BBC announced World Trade Center Building No.
	7 fell 12 minutes before it did?
	And so, before, I knew when I saw it that there was something wrong, but by the end of the day, I knew it was a complete farce.
	The announcement was at like 4.57 and it happened at 5.20.
	It was actually 23-24 minutes prior, but you're spot on.
	Yeah, he's the one who told me like 12 minutes, but that was his description.
	I was in a vehicle and there was no way I could have seen it from where I was, but when he told me I had heard the news report come over about World Trade Center Building No.
	7, and the announcer said, and World Trade Center Building No.
	7 was not hit by an aircraft.
	And it went down because of fire, and I said to myself, well, that's total bullshit.
	That never happens.
	And then, when I actually saw it later, but his description that BBC announced it before it actually happened, I said, well, you know, gosh, guys, we're sitting right in the middle of probably one of the biggest lies in history.
	Yeah, no steel structure skyrise has ever collapsed from fire in history except for what we were told about 9-11, which was pure, unadulterated bullshit.
	You made several key points.
	Well, Jim, one of the things that I have always believed, and I have said over and over and over again, that Americans, the ignorance of the American public wouldn't be so bad if they weren't so damn proud of it.
	Yeah, that's true.
	I want to get Blackbird9's thoughts next.
	I think I realized something was seriously wrong when they announced maybe two hours after the so-called collapse of the buildings that they knew that Osama bin Laden did it.
	They had a picture of him up on the screen and everything.
	They knew that he was responsible There's just no way they could have possibly known so quickly on top of the other fallacies that you gentlemen have already pointed out.
	Hey, Dave.
	Yes, sir.
	May I add one last thing and then I'll shut up because I want to hear these other guys.
	They got much more valuable information than I do.
	But please go ahead.
	The one thing that I was thinking about, you know, during this whole thing that just absolutely made no sense to me.
	And I looked at it and it was like, you know, why is this happening?
	And, uh, Well, there was a couple of things, and it's probably going to lead me into a longer dissertation than I should get into.
	Let me hold that back for a little while, Dave.
	Go ahead.
	Well, are you sure you don't want to finish up your thought, Mike?
	No, go ahead.
	I just realized that by the time I get into this, it's going to take me several minutes to explain it, so I'm going to have to try to explain it by working around things I can't say.
	Okay, well, let's get BB9 in on this.
	Suhr, go ahead.
	Oh, just, I am thoroughly enjoying the discussion.
	I'm sitting here taking notes going, oh, great point, great point, good point, yes.
	But one of the things that just really was over the top to me was, in that trauma-based programming, you immediately have to establish what's called the Cartman Drama Triangle.
	And basically, you know, you're setting up the victims, you're setting up the aggressor, and you're setting up the rescuer.
	Right?
	And so, America is the victim, obviously, right?
	And here on the BBC, you have Ehud Barak basically doing a, you know, parlor scene of whodunit.
	The towers hadn't even collapsed yet, and here's Ehud Barak On the BBC saying this was, you know, obviously the work of Osama Bin Laden and Al-Qaeda.
	This marks the beginning of the war on terror.
	And then he brings in, of course, this is our common enemy.
	This is the common enemy of not only Israel and America, But of World Jewry and Western Civilization.
	We must all join together.
	And what's amazing is you go over to CNN, you know, and who was CNN under?
	And you have Jerome Hauer giving the exact same parlor scene.
	This was Osama Bin Laden and al-Qaeda.
	And everybody remembers, you know, a year ago that USS Cole was mysteriously attacked and that introduced the world to the new boogeyman Osama Bin Laden and Al Qaeda, right?
	That was also a very synthetic event.
	So, that just always comes to mind.
	Who's at the seed of the official story?
	How do they possibly know that that's what the 9-11 commission report would conclude years later?
	Right?
	Those alakalas.
	So, that was my big thing on that morning of immediate, we know who did this, before anybody could even know.
	We didn't even know we finished up being attacked yet.
	You know, you talk about the goats and you're breaking POTAR, the goat story, and Bush is breaking the protocol with Secret Service.
	You know, how did these guys at Rumsfeld know no more planes were going to hit the Pentagon?
	Rumsfeld's out there doing photo ops, you know, and, you know, helping rescue people and, you know, that kind of thing.
	How did they know that, you know, this was all there was going to be?
	You know what I mean?
	Yeah, it was all self-convenient and happened immediately.
	Just incredible, absolutely incredible.
	Let's see, who have we not hit upon for a second time here?
	Well, that throws some weird dots out about 9-11, since that's what I'm notorious for, is just some weird 9-11 dots.
	Oh, please, please, go ahead BB9, excellent, go ahead.
	One of the 9-11 flights That, yeah, it's very curious to me that after, you know, our Transportation Secretary Norman Mineta grounded all civilian airplanes at 9 45 a.m., right?
	Get those birds down.
	Everybody's got to be on the ground.
	They're going to take them down, right?
	Well, at 4 11 p.m.
	out of none other than New York's JFK Airport, a fully loaded Israeli El Al airliner, commercial airliner, left to go to Ben Gurion Airport in Tel Aviv.
	And wouldn't you love to have a passenger manifest for that flight?
	That everything else was grounded, but somehow this LL flight to Israel from New York, the crime scene, you know, manages to get, you know, out at 411 that day.
	Can I chime in real quick?
	Yeah.
	I think it might have been the crews of the E-4Bs that were over D.C.
	and over New York that day, part of it, for sure.
	But go ahead.
	But yeah, that's just one of those curious, stubborn data dots that, yeah, you got special treatment somehow.
	And then you're talking about the history of the weird 9-11 numbers.
	In 1931, Jewish organized crime, on September 11, 1931, staged a nationwide coup where they basically went out and assassinated, I'm trying to remember the exact number, over 30 of the old bosses.
	So it was just this, you know, decapitation movement on that specific date of 19, in 1931.
	This is the day for power shift coups, and that established Meyer Lansky and Murder Incorporated as the gang in the United States.
	And of course, backed up by the Stern Gang and the Ergun and the Purple Gang and all the other Jewish gangs.
	They were now in control of Organized Crime in the USA.
	And that was a 9-11 story.
	And the other thing, we were talking about the Patriot Act, that was Michael Chertoff, who was a titled THAAD operative.
	And he brought in Marcus Wolfe, who was the head of the East Germans, to help him design the Department of Homeland Security and the Patriot Act and the TSA.
	So that's just an interesting little tidbit about 9-11 when you start looking at who's
	really behind it and who benefited.
	We have Joe Holstenbeck.
	Joe, why don't you... What do you want to add to the conversation, sir?
	Yeah, to paraphrase a colloquialism, never bring a box cutter to a crash jack's fight.
	Yeah, some other little, other dots we need to connect would be Susan Landauer who had
	CIMI information on hijacked airliners crashing into Michigan.
	The Trade Center Building.
	We had Sybil Edmonds giving translations of Terrorist Scatter to the FBI, which was ignored.
	And then you had the two FBI agents, Harry Samet and Colleen Braulette, who arrested Zakhar Masari, hijacker number 20, in Minneapolis on August 16, 2001.
	Okay, I'm hearing that we have an echo going on.
	You just have to believe in conspiracies.
	You can add those to the mix.
	So let me drop out of the stream yard moment.
	And do this, and do this, and do this here.
	Let's get more from Dennis in the meanwhile.
	The one thing that we didn't get a chance to cover on the last show was an important thing,
	and I'm sorry I missed it.
	I missed it but uh...
	And we talked about it earlier here a little bit, but there are protocols for takeovers and cockpits that go into place that allow crews to surreptitiously let people on the ground know what's going on without saying a word over the radio.
	And we're not going to talk about them for obvious reasons, but airline pilots know what these are.
	And unfortunately, the general public doesn't.
	But they were not used in any way, make, or form on 9-11.
	And I wanted to quickly go to another issue about something nobody's talked about.
	It's that the plane that was the American Airlines aircraft that was used for the flyover at the Pentagon.
	On 9-11, when it was pushed back to depart, the crew apparently was unfamiliar with how to deal with the ground guys that are pushing your aircraft back.
	All airline crews know how to deal with them, but military pilots really don't, unless they had a civilian background where they flew for a carrier.
	A lot of clearance delivery stuff now is ACARS stuff, which is datalink, and it's not the laborious thing where you get it from ATC on the radio and you read it back, and then if you make any mistakes on the readback you get corrected.
	It's all usually done with ACARS.
	The plane that pushed back for the flyover was apparently being flown by a military person.
	By the way, the position where it departed was was not the one that they said the gate that it left from.
	So that was another clue.
	But anyway, the lack of the protocols and this crew in the 757 that was probably under lease from America to do the flyover like they did a year earlier for the flyover to record the data that they used with the SPH-2 apparatus.
	When they did that flyover, you know, with Citizens Investigative Team, a very Excellently covered and NEIT 428, the cemetery worker, is in the National Archives discussion when he was interrogated about what he witnessed.
	I wanted to point out the fact that the investigator said, well why do you think that nobody has really wanted to interview you or talk to you about this further?
	And I guess what he said is he said, well, I guess I'm just not important enough.
	But his unbiased eyes that had no aeronautical, no nothing experience other than digging graves and shoving coffins in them was probably the most important set of eyeballs that day because he had no reason to be biased in any direction and he saw the flyover occur.
	So I'm going to turn it back to you guys and let you handle that, all right?
	Could you expound upon what you mean he saw the flyover?
	Tell us more about that please.
	What happened is that he was working, because there's a hill between the gas station and the Pentagon where it really restricts your ability to see the building directly, you can see the environment but not the building itself, he was in a position at Arlington to actually see Uh, what, you know, he didn't really get into detail about what he saw, but he saw the aircraft come down and do a low approach right over the top of the building and bank off and fly away.
	And this is something that the public was not aware of because they, you know, they heard all these accounts of the plane slammed into the building.
	Nobody can dispute that.
	Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
	But here we had a cemetery worker identified as NEIT 428, an interviewee.
	We know his real name.
	It's in the record.
	But this gentleman saw this airplane come down, do the low approach, and fly away.
	If the public knew this, if the general public was aware of the fact that that happened,
	and in addition to that, this C-130.
	By the way, you don't just hop in a C-130 and fire it up and take off in five minutes.
	You've got to pre-flight it.
	It takes a while to get yourself in the air.
	That guy was in the air, encircling over the Pentagon, and of course he lied about his whereabouts, officially, about Commander O'Brien, the guy that It provided the guidance for the Global Hawk and the Maverick missile into the building.
	But these airplanes, a complex airplane like that, you just don't fire it up in two seconds and get in the air.
	All these things happen in a sequence, and he was already pre-cleared and allowed to be in that airspace, flying over it and circling.
	All of these things had the public known that the flyover occurred at the Pentagon and that there was this aircraft providing guidance for a missile attack via Global Hawk circling over the area.
	If the public would have known that, I think they might have had a little bit less reason to believe the official stories, because the question would beg itself, why is this happening?
	And then one more point I want to make, if they knew that the E-4Bs were orbiting, and holding patterns over New York City and Arlington
	at high altitude and were visibly seen by many, many people that zoomed their cameras on them and positively identified
	them as white Air Force E-4B aircraft, that they were not on radar,
	that that rat would have stunk pretty bad and they would have had to address that issue.
	But go ahead and ask another question if you have one for me.
	Well, what I'd like to do now is sort of get people's, you know, take on what are the connections between,
	you know, Operation COVID Hoax and 9-11, because obviously this is, you know,
	a very, like a continuation of the same game in many ways.
	I saw that very clearly at the airport, how the new restrictions from COVID are really building upon the foundation of what was brought forth from 9-11, this restrictive and tyrannical mindset that they want to create Uh, for society and that they've already created within the airports.
	I mean, you have everybody but the janitor at the airport thinking they have some kind of authority over you, making you submit, uh, to this, that, and the other thing at every turn.
	So maybe you guys could draw some connections of what you think the significance of these connections are.
	Maybe, uh, Jim, maybe you could go first, sir.
	Well, you know, since you first brought it up, Scorpio, I was interested in your elaborating on the parallels, certainly the idea of control, but what we had in the aftermath of 9-11 was the reorganization of the government using the Patriot Act.
	Separate agencies were consolidated, including numerous intelligence agencies, which is a bad thing.
	It's well known that having separate competing agencies is the best way to get at the truth, because they don't want to be outdone by the other.
	Consolidating them all into a mammoth, where there's only one voice speaking, was a bad idea, but that was part of the plan.
	And to compromise, you know, American national security.
	Remember, that's driven as an Israeli plan.
	I do agree that, you know, using COVID to divide and destroy America is taking pace at a breathtaking speed where Biden, there's something very strange, I agree, about this figure who's coming out there.
	I mean, as you well know, since the very first debate where you and I and Giuseppe were commenting, it was evident this was not the senator from Delaware.
	Who had been pursuing the presidency for 35 years without winning a single caucus or a primary, but some imposter was being introduced in his stead, which has been confirmed not only by the difference in eye color, as James Wood observed, that suddenly detached, becoming an attaché lobe, the difference in the skull, The way he ties his tie and other issues, but by a pharmacist to confirm that the signature of the new guy is not the same as the signature of the old guy.
	So, you know, I mean, I'm very interested in more of how you see Scorpio, this as an extension.
	I mean, I'm absolutely open to it.
	But I'm not quite to the point where I see exactly what it is you're describing.
	So I would invite you to tell us more.
	Well, absolutely.
	Well, I just think I saw that my experiences at the airport as a, you know, sort of a microcosm of and symbolic of what they want to create for our greater society, which is sort of this First of all, an atmosphere where everyone is suspicious of one another.
	In the airport, everyone's afraid.
	Everyone has COVID.
	Everyone's wearing a mask.
	You're walking around with your COVID papers, proving you're not a super spreader.
	At every turn, you're asked to show your identification multiple times, for no reason, when you're already... I mean, how many times in 15 minutes are things going to change?
	Not that much.
	And I just saw it as really building upon the foundation of 9-11, of restriction of movement.
	That's a very important thing, and I believe that they're going to try to actually make Even driving across state borders is difficult.
	You're going to have to have a proof of vaccine or a negative COVID test to cross state borders.
	And so this is, you know, building upon this idea that we have to restrict movement, and that really ties into the environmental, so-called environmental agenda as well, which is, well, you're creating too much carbon.
	You can't just get on an airplane and go wherever you want, man.
	You're destroying the environment.
	I think these three agendas dovetail into each other, and I just believe that 9-11 laid the foundation for all of it, at least in modern times, to really kick off this surveillance state and the air of suspicion that exists today, only now it's all for your own good.
	And you know, Jim, what was so incredible about Groper Joe's speech, or the actor playing him, or the entity playing him, Uh, is that, um, you know, it was sort of the essence of the speech was, well, you know, we don't want to take away your rights, but we have to because of COVID.
	And it was all very loving and soft and, hey man, we care.
	But really it's just demanding you turn over the sovereignty of your body to the state.
	And it's just, all of it is an extension of 9-11 in many ways is how I see it.
	But maybe someone else could jump in.
	Mike, what are your thoughts on this correlation between these two events and where do you want to take this?
	Well, one of the things I think that very few people ever mention when it comes to 9-11 is the fact that under Ronald Reagan, he took two men, Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld, and put them in charge of creating a continuity of government operation under his aegis from 80
	to 88.
	Here is, and they wanted to create something in case of a national emergency.
	Well, we do know that on September the 11th, that night, George Bush implemented a continuity of government
	operation.
	And it was directed by Dick Cheney with Donald Rumsfeld as Secretary of Defense.
	Now, there are people who will tell you that this didn't happen, but there are actual directives that, and in 2007, Bush renewed them with a national authorization.
	So, in essence, we have been under a continuity of government operation Obama renewed it twice.
	Those are available.
	I can provide those links for anyone who doubts it.
	We have been under a continuity of government operation for all these years, and this is just not mentioned.
	We don't talk about it, and people will say, well, you know, hey, that has to be, there's something wrong with that.
	Well, people, I would direct you to, and Absolutely, the Washington Post is no source.
	But why did they post this on March the 1st of 2002?
	And it says, President Bush has dispatched a shadow government of about 100 senior civilian managers to live and work secretly outside Washington.
	That's the Berryville, Virginia, underground operation.
	Activating for the first time long-standing plans to ensure survival of federal rule after a catastrophic attack on the nation's capital.
	Execution of the classified Continuity of Operations Plan resulted not from the Cold War threat of intercontinental missiles, but the scenario rehearsed for decades, but from heightened fears that the Al-Qaeda terrorist network might somehow obtain a portable nuclear weapon, according to three officials with first-hand knowledge.
	U.S.
	intelligence has no specific knowledge of such a weapon, they said, but the risk is thought great enough to justify the shadow government's disruption and exposition.
	So, stop and think about this, guys.
	If you'll go back to the trials of Oliver North, someone brought up the continuity of government movement.
	One of the attorneys brought that up, and you would have thought Daniel Inouye had had a heart attack.
	And he said, then, we cannot speak about this.
	This has to be an executive session.
	We have been on a continuity of government operation which supersedes the Constitution and the Bill of Rights since September the 11th of 2001, and it has been renewed repetitively with natural authorization and executive orders.
	Can I jump in real quick and add to that?
	There's two directives.
	I think it's National Security Policy Directive 20 and another one, Directive 51, that went into effect, and they've not been rescinded.
	They've been in continuous effect.
	They get signed into effect every January, and there's never a word on any media about this.
	But the other thing I wanted to add before I digress too far is that All this thing is right now that has been set in front of us with the announcements about the pandemic, as we call it, from the living glory hole, as Giuseppe calls them, is that this is the backdoor implementation of martial law.
	This is all it is.
	It's exactly all it is.
	Well, that's very well said, Dennis.
	That's exactly right.
	And it's all under the guise of your protection, like everything.
	All deception.
	Joe Olson, please give us your thoughts on any correlations between these two events and how it all ties together.
	What's the big picture for you?
	Yeah, John Hopkins has had multiple planning events for a plandemic going back 20 years.
	They had their first one in June of 2001, but surprisingly enough, in July of 2001, NASA had a day-long conference called Future Wars 2025, in which they said that in order to have a continuity of government, That the public need to experience trauma based mind control.
	And this presentation had 100 PowerPoint slides and it was covered extensively by Aaron Dykes and Melissa Dykes at Truthstream Media.
	They did about an hour and a half long video showing plates from that slide presentation, and just
	the plates are horrifying.
	And they don't mind exterminating people doing anything they can because fear is the trauma-based
	motive operation.
	It's absolutely horrible.
	There's nothing that's accidental about any of this stuff.
	Like Ian Fleming said, once is an accident, twice is a coincidence, and third time is
	state action.
	What we've had is continuous state action against the Republic of America for at least, what, since 1776.
	They did the War of 1812, they state-set the Civil War, they've drug us into every war since then.
	All wars are bankers' wars, a great 45-minute documentary by Michael Rivera, I recommend that anybody that's the least bit curious about why there are conspiracy theorists in this planet is because there's just wall-to-wall conspiracies.
	Well, guys, if I... Go ahead, Mike.
	I'm sorry, Dave.
	I'm sorry.
	No, Mike, go ahead, sir.
	I wanted to throw in here for the people who would like to research this and would like to look at it.
	On May the 9th of 2007, George Bush renewed the Continuity of Government Act with Presidential
	Directive 51 and Homeland Security Presidential Directive 20.
	Thank you.
	Now, only the unclassified portions of these directives have ever been published.
	When Congressman Peter DeFazio of the Homeland Security Commission asked formally to view the classified portions of the Presidential and Homeland Security Directive, his request was denied.
	Congress is not allowed to see these directives.
	If that doesn't tell people something, I believe that this pandemic and everything else has occurred under this continuity of government operation.
	And Jim, very astute observations because I have noticed on several occasions and I knew At my tenure with the U.S.
	Government Intelligence Agency, that at any time, each president had at least three stand-ins that could be used at any time that something was amiss, so that they could present the image of everything is fine.
	So I'm not surprised at all, and I don't even watch TV, but I am not surprised at all that we're seeing different people under the direction of Well, this guy is actually demented.
	He's cognitively incompetent.
	He doesn't understand the meaning of any of the words he says.
	He's the perfect tool for those who are manipulating him like a puppet to take these actions that are completely disastrous for the United States and its population.
	Where he is given the responsibility but actually is so totally unaware of what he's doing that it's ridiculous beyond words.
	This is just the most insulting situation to Democrats.
	...have shown that they despise the United States and Americans by treating us with such disrespect and abuse to put people of the low caliber of Joe Biden at Kamala Harris ahead of their ticket.
	What a disgrace!
	If you stop back and consider, they appear to be doing the Zionist bidding, however, that they might as well be an instrument of the Rothschild banking empire.
	It begins to make just a bit more sense.
	Well, I agree 100%, and I believe, again, that this is all a continuation of government operation, and we're putting up a facade that there's actually a Congress, that there's actually a President, and they are using these people.
	And, of course, you would want to use the left to implement the policies to make the right hate them, so that you could do that.
	But in my years in government service, I can tell you, in the deep state, there are no Democrats, and there are no Republicans.
	They're all on the same team.
	Yeah, Mike, you're making a great point about this continuity of government.
	I think that's something I haven't really heard brought up much.
	But, you know, if you look at it from the big picture, I think you're absolutely spot on.
	And it is a backdoor route to martial law, what we're going to see coming here, because you see them building up the hatred towards the non-vaccinated.
	That's just beginning.
	OK.
	Stay tuned for the third and final hour, guys.
	We'll be right back.
	are we off of revolution radio?
	I'm going to go back to the chat.
	What are your thoughts on that?
	Oh, absolutely, Dave.
	I don't think there's any doubt.
	I think we've been under martial law since September 11th.
	They just called it Forky the Pig.
	You know what's funny is that I call him DeFakio.
	He caved in like a soggy bag of toilet paper, but when he did the inquiry, all these spineless worms that we have for politicos here in the state of Oregon, as I call it, They have, you know, jellyfish have more, you know, spine than these guys do, but there was a fighter base in Iraq that got blown up one day, and I buzzed Defakio's fact line into decommission one day asking him, how come 400 soldiers died when the base got blown up by a mortar attack, and they had a list of casualties, and I, you know, I just rang his
	His line off the hook until they finally pulled it out of the wall and disconnected it.
	But these assholes, they know what's going on.
	They pretend to initiate these inquiries, but they don't give a flying fuck.
	They're in on it.
	They're part of it.
	Well guys, I tell you what, I didn't realize, I was a newbie, but I didn't realize until at Fort George G. Meade, Maryland back in 1968 and I was down in the comm room where all the communications were coming in at the National Security Agency about the invasion of Hungary And, uh, was it Hungary or Czechoslovakia?
	Anyway, Czechoslovakia.
	I'm sorry.
	And, uh, I was there and suddenly all of these people were in probably was considered to be one of the most secure buildings in America.
	And I was looking around and I started asking some people, uh, who the hell are these people?
	They have no name tags.
	They have no badges.
	How the hell did they get in this building?
	And my supervisor came over and said, uh, you might want to shut your mouth.
	Well, I found out later that these people who were in the National Security Agency sitting in positions directing U.S.
	military forces were in fact civilians.
	Were they wearing yarmulkes by any chance?
	Well, you know, that's what I would have expected, but I'll tell you this, two of the people who were with them were Jewish members of the United States Senate at that time.
	Yeah, it doesn't surprise me.
	I call them the swedge, you know, to get around the censorship, but they're at the core of all the evil.
	They're the epicenter of evil by the cube.
	They're in the very center of all the bad that happens to this planet.
	I'm very sorry to say that, but you guys, you all know it.
	You all know it.
	How many countries have they been kicked out of?
	I think 108 and counting.
	Mike, you're bringing up something that's so incredible.
	I've always postulated that there's people who are able just to sort of walk into any agency they want to and join the show without having so-called clearance or even identification.
	You know, there's people that just walk between the raindrops and are directing things from behind the scenes.
	What you just described is really, really fascinating.
	I've never heard it said before.
	Well, I was a young guy there.
	I was 21 years old and I had been a combat infantryman before that.
	And then one day from the Department of Army, I got an assignment out of Vietnam to Fort George G. Meade, Maryland, which I could never figure out.
	And then I ended up, when I got there, I went into command and they said, hey, you're not here.
	You're over there at this building.
	Let's draw you a map over there.
	And it was the NSA.
	And I asked several people, what the hell am I doing here?
	And they said, well, you know, obviously there's something about your record that, and I found out later it was because of my ability, or at that time, what was considered to be an eidetic memory.
	Wow.
	Giuseppe, are we back on the air with Revolution Radio?
	Connecting right now.
	OK.
	Well, what I want to do now is I'd like to hand it back over to you, Giuseppe, and see where you want to take this conversation, sir.
	Well, first, I know Daryl Wayne wanted to make a comment earlier.
	And Daryl, I sent you a private Skype message that, if you could look at and reply to, it's also in the chat here.
	uh... in skype because it if you if you know uh... the person i'm asking you about i have some really
	fascinating for nation to share
	and i also would like to add that uh...
	you know bb nine does a a great job of finding these uh...
	these pondirous facts and
	uh... one of our our listeners made the point that the uh... spire like needle on top of one of the twin
	towers was twenty three percent
	the length was twenty three percent of the actual length of the twin tower exactly the same
	ratio as the needle is to a syringe
	while that's an interesting fact It's a nice coincidence Yeah, yeah, I would just like to ask
	The panel, and again, what a magnificent array of heavy hitters you put together, Scorpio.
	Salute to you.
	I'd like to ask the panel, what is it about the, as Mike, the Rebel Man Man likes to quote, the HL Menken, what is it about Boobus Americanas that they just swallow the 9-11 lies, hook, line, and sinker?
	And feel like it's their patriotic duty to, you know, honor these people.
	And they should be honored, but they were murdered by the Synagogue of Satan and its retail crime outlet, Israel.
	And traitors Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, and all those soulless dual citizen neocons, the PNAC crowd.
	This is an obvious crime that the perpetrators are easy to identify.
	Why is it that Bubis Americanas refuses to look at the obvious?
	Who's that directed to?
	Uh, we'll see you next time.
	Well, Daryl wanted to jump in.
	It was directed to everybody.
	Well, I'll just jump in real quick here for a minute.
	I just wanted to make a little comment, going back to 9-11, just a little bit, that ties in.
	Dennis made a comment about the terrain around the Pentagon, and this is something that really doesn't get discussed much, and might help some people understand about the topography of this area.
	The Pentagon sort of sits down in a hole, so to speak.
	and surrounded by Arlington and the different memorials.
	It's also surrounded by highways, raised elevation highways.
	Major highways.
	Yeah, to the south of it, you have Crystal City and High Rise, relatively, they're not skyscrapers,
	but you have some 20-story buildings, hotels, and Crystal City.
	And this is in the Crystal City also is where the military industrial complex resides.
	You know, you can you can walk around in that area and see every, you know, D.C.
	headquarters of Raytheon, Lockheed Martin and Northrop Grumman and all these people have their own little little palaces there.
	But the side of the Pentagon, or I should say the pentagram that was hit or attacked, this is located on, if you locate it according to the compass, it's sort of west-southwest in its orientation.
	And if you go almost due west of the side that was hit.
	Okay, so the pentagons on the side that was hit was more on the west side of the building.
	If you go due west of the pentagram, and you go about a mile and a half, you'll see that there's a, up on top of the hill, there is a hotel.
	And the hotel is called the Sheridan.
	And I'm very Very familiar with it, because I've spent entirely too many nights sleeping in the Sheridan.
	So, for the approach of that aircraft, supposed aircraft, that hits Panel 1 or Section 1 of the Pentagram, they would have had to negotiate past that.
	CCTV that would have seen the whole thing, okay, which was never present.
	And there's another interesting thing about the Sheraton Hotel that occurred in the subsequent years after 9-11 was that's where the crews for Midwest State, that was a designated overnight for the crews was at the Sheraton.
	And so you have pilots who lived in D.C.
	that flew from Midwest, and they would commute back and forth on the regularly scheduled flights to do their trips.
	So in 2006, I was captain of an overnight flight into D.C.
	I was flying a Boeing 717 at the time, and my co-pilot lived in D.C.
	And obviously I can't use his name, but he lives in D.C.
	and I said, well, I'll see you tomorrow.
	We're all going to the hotel.
	He went home the next morning.
	He shows up.
	We all join up to get an airplane.
	We're doing a pre-flight.
	We're going through cockpit checks.
	We're loading the box.
	We're doing all this stuff and we get everything done.
	We're sitting there talking and I go, I just sort of look over at him.
	OK, because we had everything done.
	And I look over at him and I go, well, so where were you on 9-11?
	And he kind of looks at me.
	His eyes, he kind of sits up in his seat and he kind of turns and he looks at me and he goes, I said, well, you lived here.
	I mean, where, where were you at?
	And he goes, well, I was here.
	You were here in DC?
	Yeah, I was here in DC.
	I said, where were you?
	He says, well, I was parking my car when the explosion went off.
	I go, really?
	Of course, what I'm relaying to you is a hearsay story.
	So I said, well, well, tell me, what did you see?
	He says, well, I didn't see nothing.
	I go, where was you parking your car?
	He says, well, I was up by the, in the parking lot in the Sheraton over there.
	And I go, yeah.
	He goes, I said, well, I mean, tell me what's that look like when a white body A white body Boeing comes screaming by you at 100 feet off the ground.
	And he goes, well, it didn't happen.
	I go, what do you mean?
	He goes, there was no jet that flew over the top of my car.
	He says, I was literally taking my overnight bag out of the trunk when the explosion went off.
	And I go, really?
	And he goes, yep.
	The Sheraton is about a mile and a half, a mile and a quarter away from the Pentagram.
	If you go along with the narrative in the story, it would have been, you know, at the speeds they were supposedly traveling at, this would have been six seconds.
	Six seconds from that parking lot where he was standing outside, and the direct flight path would have been right over the top of him, and he says it didn't happen.
	And I trust him And his observation skills a lot more than what I was told off CNN.
	So, um, I just, I just wanted to get that, that in because, you know, uh, I've never really shared that before, but, um, this is, these are cold hard facts.
	Okay.
	From my point of view, of course, the story I just shared with you is hearsay, but in my world, this is an absolute proof.
	So.
	The idea of how does this sort of all fit together?
	Well, you know, there's a lot of different angles we could come at this, guys.
	But I, for some reason, I consistently persist in trying to insist that I want to get through to the non-believers.
	And the only way I can do this is to, at this point, is to assault them.
	With reality.
	And they have to understand that if you don't get this by now, you have something definitely wrong.
	And you have to be grown up enough to admit when you're wrong.
	So I have a little riddle.
	I have a little riddle for them.
	And the riddle goes something like this.
	What does 9-11, viruses, vaccines, and the United States all have in common with you?
	Okay, so then we play some Jeopardy music there, right?
	Okay, and so here's the answer to my own riddle.
	They do not exist in reality as you understand them.
	Wow, that's great.
	Until you cross over that, go ahead, I'm sorry.
	No, no.
	I didn't mean to step on you.
	That's just really excellent.
	Keep going.
	Yeah.
	So, I'm just really tickled here to be with so many great guys that bring together so many different strands, and it's actually quite coherent.
	Yeah.
	If you go back into the mid-80s, early 90s, and Bill Cooper's book Behold the Pale Horse, He does an exquisite job at that time of covering continuity of government.
	If then, from 2005 up through 2010, you pay any attention whatsoever to Alan Watt and his coverage of vaccines, viruses, and the depopulation program, and you combine those two, you have exactly what's happening now.
	I don't think these two gentlemen ever get enough recognition for Having seen it decades in advance.
	And they're both gone.
	So that's how I tie it all together.
	The 9-11 lays the psychological foundation and the pretext for the Intelligence, media, police, surveillance state that now is enforcing a medical tyranny for the benefit of everybody that they really want to help.
	It's, it's, it's, you know, I don't know about you guys, but it, whenever I look at this, like we're talking about today, I keep seeing the Munchausen by proxy syndrome.
	Are you guys familiar with the Munchausen by proxy?
	I am, yeah.
	It's a good thing to bring up.
	Elaborate on that, Darrell.
	Go ahead.
	I used to spend a lot of time standing in front of a class of pilots boring into death.
	Doing ground schools, recurrent ground schools and that sort of stuff.
	And we, we would talk about the Stockholm syndrome and I've spent many hours talking about this to pilots and, and why that's important because of hijacking and, and captive situations.
	You, you want to have a mental, mental strategies for how to not succumb to the Stockholm syndrome.
	Okay.
	So, um, Most people are familiar with the Stockholm Syndrome, where the people who are being controlled by their captors start to identify with the captors and become amenable and supportive of their captors.
	That's just a very brief supposition of that.
	Now, Munchausen by proxy syndrome is a good example of that, is when, let's say, A woman has infant or very small children and she has a personality psychological disorder where she has a hero and a narcissistic and psychopathological obsession with attention as being a heroine.
	She will literally injure her children Through some means, this has been done in the past by poisoning, where her children get sick, nobody can figure it out, but yet then mom shows up and saves the day, and there's a pattern where they keep repeating this sort of behavior.
	It's very much, it much hasn't by proxy, just absolutely fits in with Okay.
	And so, but as it pertains to the victims, they experience it as, oh, my mom would never hurt me.
	And now my mom's going to save me.
	And this infantile, this infantilization of the population's mind And then internalizing this is fatal.
	I know Blackbird thinks along these lines a lot.
	Maybe other guys do too, but I call it the hybrid.
	It's a hybrid Stockholm syndrome hybrid.
	It's a blending.
	of much as a by proxy and this is how I see the performance of the deformance of our reality
	that people have internalized.
	It's their obedience, their compulsion towards obedience is a danger to all of us.
	And I'm not overstating that, so I've sort of ran into it a little bit.
	Maybe that's probably all I should pass on her.
	Yeah, that was excellent.
	Excellent.
	And, you know, so many things are a blending, you know.
	People keep saying, oh, this is a communist system.
	Well, it's really a hybrid system that they're creating that's going to, you know, incorporate multiple aspects of different systems into a new hybrid.
	Giuseppe, go ahead, sir.
	Where do you want to take this?
	I'd like to interject that people or listeners may interpret Daryl's friend not seeing the facetious plane fly over doesn't mean that something didn't fly over because my former neighbors, one of which was a retired Air Force colonel, and he Listeners, we're not taking calls today, so stop calling.
	The retired Air Force colonel, and they were in an office building right by the Sheridan, and many people, my mother-in-law, who is a State Department diplomat, was driving on one of the 66 at that time, and something did fly over.
	So, just want to make that clarification, but it's certainly laughable to think that... Well, Giuseppe, there's a significant difference between a cruise missile... Oh yeah, a Global Hawk, right?
	...with probably some kind of depleted uranium warhead on it, and a wide-body 757.
	Oh, without a doubt!
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	No, no.
	I just did not want people to think that.
	Well, you know, Norman Mineta in the underground bunker with Cheney reported the following experience.
	A Cheney aide came up to him and said, Sir, it's 50 miles out.
	Sir, it's 40 miles out.
	Sir, it's 30 miles out.
	Does the order still stand?
	And Cheney whipped around and said, Of course the order still stands.
	Have you heard anything to the contrary?
	The order apparently was with regard to a plane headed toward the Pentagon Not to shoot it down, which would have been the obvious thing to do.
	You'd lose the passengers and the plane, but not the property and the personnel at the target.
	This appears to have been a diversion to create the impression that a real plane had really hit the Pentagon, where citizens' investigative team discovered there were witnesses at the Sitco station Who saw it approach but north of Sitco when the official trajectory was south.
	They saw it head toward the building and then a big explosion.
	But where a friend of mine from JFK Research had a trucker buddy there who watches a plane swerved over the Pentagon.
	So Cheney was deeply involved in promoting a plane which could have easily been shot down.
	I mean, the Pentagon is not only the most heavily surveyed, but the most well-protected.
	They had to order the anti-aircraft missile batteries to stand down, which Cheney was doing to promote The illusion of a Boeing 757 hit the Pentagon, which did not happen.
	Even Jamie McIntyre there at the time said, from his close-up inspection, there's no sign of any plane having hit anywhere near the Pentagon.
	No parts, not only no body, seats, luggage, no wings, no tail, etc.
	Only tiny pieces you can hold in your hand.
	He would subsequently be pressured to take it back, which he did in the following way he said.
	Only a fool would deny that a plane had hit the Pentagon, meaning he'd been a fool to think his bosses wanted him to report the truth about 9-11 at the Pentagon.
	He subsequently retired.
	I believe carrying all this propaganda was too much for him to bear.
	Well, Jim, there's also I knew personally a lady who was at the Pentagon, a lieutenant colonel for the eventually became a full 06.
	But she was on the Mideast desk at on September 11.
	I talked with her Within a couple of days, now for those of you folks who know retired and now deceased Colonel David Hackworth, she was actually his source of information about Iraq when she was feeding him non-classified information back in 2003 and 4.
	But anyway, she went outside and I talked with her like three days later on the telephone and she said, I can tell you unequivocally, no plane hit this building.
	And she talked about, if you will remember, the top structure did not cave in immediately.
	That happened later, and she was outside before it was out there.
	She said a cowling was found, one small cowling was found, but she said it would be more indicative of a missile than a plane.
	And how about just the coincidence, oy vey, what a coincidence that independent auditors within the Pentagon were about to expose that the synagogue of Satan, traitorous Jews, dual citizens, had stolen, as in embezzled, $2.3 trillion to Israel from the Pentagon, and that that
	missile just so happened to hit the area where they were all assembled by Donald Rumsfeld.
	Well, also, if you've read, and I don't know how much credence you want to give to Katherine
	Austen Fitz, but she makes a damn good case that that $2.3 million was much nearer $10
	trillion.
	Did I say million?
	I meant trillion, sorry.
	Yeah, trillion.
	You said trillion.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	No, that's all spot on.
	And I mean, this was just outrageous.
	Drumsfeld appeared to have directed the section chief to have all the documents and records there in the West Wing.
	Which had recently been completed a renovation.
	It was the only wing that was renovated to protect it from, as it were, a nuclear attack.
	So it was bereft of personnel and files, except for that the apparently naval intelligence was trying to figure out what was going on.
	They were in that wing, but then all these budget experts.
	So when I reviewed the list of casualties from the Pentagon, there were three dozen.
	Budget experts, analysts, accountants, and all that, where that was well designed, as Dennis observed, firing a missile into the West Wing to obliterate the records related to the missing $2.3 trillion, which may have been in fact as much as $10.
	It actually happened serially.
	It's been brought to light now that the $2.3 trillion happened like three or four times in the recent history.
	The $10 trillion number sounds a lot more accurate, but it's been a continual money bleed straight into Tel Aviv.
	I call it smell a fart.
	It's been going on for a long time, and I'm really skeptical about some of these
	stories that came out about how conveniently everything all the computers were destroyed
	because You know I have network certifications with with a
	Microsoft certification number assigned to it for having had to test it and prove it
	so the issue is you don't you don't put all your your Important servers all in one location, so I'm not I'm not
	going to buy the fact that all of the Investigatory files were all in that wing it doesn't make
	any sense some of it wouldn't have even been on-premises It would have been another probably
	Yeah, good point.
	Just an addendum, Dennis, I just want to get the idea out there so they can pretend it's true, and you are propaganda about it.
	that's the cover story, just like when they disappear people by making them dead, you
	don't continue to look for dead people.
	Right.
	Yeah, good point.
	Let's get a blackbird.
	Just an addendum, Dennis, I just want to get the idea out there so they can pretend it's
	true when you put propaganda out there.
	You're caught on.
	Yeah, you're right.
	Okay.
	OK, great.
	Let's get Brian Ryan in here.
	We haven't heard him in a while.
	OK, looks like he's muted out now.
	He might be away from the mic right now.
	Well, let's get Joe Wilson in.
	Joe just dropped out because his signal's going in and out.
	You're at the plate, Scorpio012.
	Choose a third.
	Who else dropped all their Okay, here we go, Blackbird.
	There he is.
	Blackbird9, are you functional now?
	Scorpio dropped out.
	Wow, what the heck's going on here?
	We're talking about their own subject.
	I'm having stream yard issues.
	This is a bad service.
	I always have better luck with Zoom and Skype.
	No, they dropped out as in they fell off for a second.
	I put him back.
	Now Blackburn has dropped off again.
	I'm having stream yard issues.
	This is a bad service.
	I always have better luck with Zoom and Skype.
	For those who are not aware of him, Field McConnell is a...
	Oh, there he goes.
	Here's Blackbird again.
	Oh yeah, I wanted to hear that Phil McConnell story.
	There's been some unusual things happen to him recently.
	Blackbird, are you there, sir?
	Can you hear me?
	There he is!
	Yes!
	Alright, that was so weird.
	I got a horrible echo then.
	Everything here said that I was sending out, but you couldn't hear me.
	Gotta love it.
	Yeah.
	Well, can I tell my funny 9-11 changed everything story real quick?
	Sure.
	Talking about these dots connecting and everything.
	Well, we know that, you know, I was telecommunication engineer.
	I was brought in by a company called Global Knowledge.
	To devise this set of third-generation telephony where we're combining the voice and data and satellite systems and everything is going to be on this one big flat network, right?
	And in addition to the telcos and the internet service providers, my clients would be like the CIA and the FBI and the NSA and state governments, etc.
	And one of the things about my level of classes is I would specialize them for the clients.
	If you were a manufacturer, I would go more technical, low-level bit stuff.
	If you were legal people, I would stay in communication law and not so much on the electronics.
	That kind of spread, that's why I was brought in to be able to do that with these classes.
	They needed that level of flexibility.
	Well, it's interesting when I was working with my handler at the NSA and I said, well, I have two versions of this class, one for American audiences that uses T1 signaling, which is what telephone systems here use, and then a European world version of these classes that uses E1
	signaling.
	So I'm assuming the NSA wants the E1 signaling.
	Well, no, I was quickly corrected that they wanted the T1 signaling,
	meaning this is before 9-11, that they were going to be using this new
	apparatus on US soil because that's the way the signaling works.
	So that was the big red flag.
	And we looked at who was in charge of the NSA at the time and it was General Michael Hayden.
	He was put in place by the Clinton administration, right?
	So, here they're setting this person at the NSA.
	The second big thing is when I was explaining to my NSA students about the Fourth Amendment and what the FISA laws are and, you know, what the rules are on using, you know, electronic surveillance on various, you know, markets.
	Well, not markets, but target areas, right?
	And that was asked to be removed again before 9-11.
	They did not really want me spending time on communication law with these NSA analysts.
	After 9-11, I would have students looking at me and they would say, and this is basically quoting what I would hear, is, we in the intelligence community can spy on anyone, anywhere.
	What the Fourth Amendment means is we just can't use what we find in a U.S.
	court of law.
	Right.
	So you can see this real pill pull logic that they're feeding to these young analysts to basically say, we want you to break the law here.
	And we're using 9-11 as a pretext.
	But again, all of this was in place before 9-11.
	The only person who bucked against this was Joseph Naccio, the CEO of Quest from 1997 to 2002.
	And he says, like me, that the NSA had approached him six months before 9-11 to make these changes on his communication network to allow for this basically a data vacuum of everything that goes through those switches would be swept up by the NSA.
	And he refused and he tried to expose them.
	And they took him out with bogus insider trading laws.
	Then the final big red flag of the NSA was the Sherlock Holmes story, The Dog Who Didn't Bark.
	The event that changed everything under General Michael Hayden's watch at the NSA after 9-11 asked me how many changes I had to make to my curriculum in the coming months.
	How many emergency meetings did I meet with senior management, military leaders, etc.
	around the world.
	How we were going to redo this curriculum to meet the challenges of 9-11.
	That would be a big goose egg zero.
	I was asked for absolutely no changes to the curriculum whatsoever after 9-11.
	In other words, it was working exactly how it was supposed to work.
	General Michael Hayden, friend of Michael Chertoff, went to work with Chertoff Industries after You know, first he went from the NSA to the CIA, then he destroyed all the evidence of all the Israeli torture in the prisons, right?
	So destroyed all that evidence.
	And then he went to go to work with Chertoff Industries, right?
	So that's my, you know, 9-11, the thing that changed everything.
	No changes were requested.
	So that's my story.
	Interesting.
	Did you ever... I want to jump in here.
	Did you ever hear of a company called Variant, V-E-R-I-A-N-T, which is really Verizon, and In-Q-Tel?
	you tell you ever heard of them? Yes, there's a whole string and the info
	sisters and other am docs. And yeah, there's basically, you know, when you
	look at them, they're all these unit 8200 affiliated, you know, Israeli
	alumni, Mossad guys that went into telecommunications, and they're pushing
	their own agenda under the guise of, you know, free trade, open
	telecommunications and those guys are waging war on the world
	But they're doing it legally.
	Yeah, you know what?
	I want to jump in here real quick and tell a little story about what happened at Lockheed
	Martin.
	I was a test engineer there working in the test lab.
	A bunch of my cohorts in the engineering department were getting sucked away into this Israeli-run
	company that was basically, you know, it was In-Q-Tel and Varen and all these guys.
	They just wanted to get anybody that basically was a spook, really, or had spook experience.
	The girl came up to me, and she was one of the managers, and she goes, would you be interested?
	I told her my little story about how CIA tried to recruit me after I got out of the Navy,
	and I told them to GFY.
	But Mr. Gray, I told, no, I can't do it.
	But the issue is that they came and sucked about 20 engineers out of our group, and then about six months later, this woman came back begging for her job, and I had a little conversation with her.
	I said, well, what's going on?
	And she goes, you wouldn't believe what the hell they're doing over there.
	And I said, oh, yeah, I would believe it, but I'll let you pick it up again.
	Well, maybe Mike could add on to what Blackbird9 was saying, having a similar background.
	Maybe, Mike, where do you want to take that?
	Well, Dave, I'm sure that some of the members of the panel here are aware, but there are three branches of intelligence collection at the No Such Agency.
	And one is what they call electronic intelligence, then there's signal intelligence, and then there's human intelligence.
	Well, Anytime I sit down at a keyboard, there, sit down at a computer, there's a short between my seat and the keyboard.
	So, uh, my area of expertise, if we can call it that, was human intelligence.
	So I, uh, most of the things I knew about the no such agency was that even in the sixties, they were collecting every signal, every piece of electronic and intelligence.
	And now they do it again in a much larger platform.
	And it all goes into the facility near Salt Lake City.
	And it takes, uh, the computers there are so large, it takes somewhere in the neighborhood of between three to five million gallons of water a day to cool the computers.
	So, uh, but my experience was from a human intelligence operation experience.
	And, uh, you know, and probably when most people think of the NSA, they think of electronic or signal intelligence.
	So my experience may be a little bit different.
	But as far as I was taught from the very beginning, there is no constitution.
	There are no limits to what we can do.
	And that was made pretty well plain.
	And when I made an objection to it one day, we were, I was with my boss, and we were going from Fort Meade to Fort, down to Fort Devin.
	I mean, we're going to Fort Devin, Massachusetts, or New Jersey, anyway.
	But anyway, we were on our way.
	And I was complaining about, I said, hey, we're violating the rights of American citizens here.
	And he made the comment to me, he said, well, Mike, you're sitting in the backseat of an automobile traveling down the highway at 70 miles an hour, right?
	And I said, yeah.
	And he said, what control do you have over the steering wheel?
	And I said, none.
	And he said, that's exactly where you are, my friend.
	Now just shut up and pay attention.
	Hey, Scorpio, I'd like to get Joe Olson.
	Ah, he dropped again.
	I'd really like to hear that Field McConnell story.
	Yeah, me too.
	Well, let's just, next time he pops up, let's try and go right to him and if he has enough... Great!
	I'd love to hear it myself.
	Yeah, because I think Field McConnell was put in jail, or is in jail now, I'm not sure which.
	Okay, he's starting to load again, so as soon as he pops in, let's just say... Joe, tell your Field McConnell story quickly!
	Yeah, he's the one that brought out the Senior Executive Service and Serco.
	Go to aimfortruth.org and look up Plumb Book Directory.
	It's the 10,000 secret agents that are selected to run all of our bureaucratic institutions, and Serco is in charge of all of the major corporations in the world.
	You've never even heard of them.
	I'm familiar with with Serco.
	If Joe comes back in a moment, this is Aim4Truth, the word F-O-R or the number four?
	I'm just trying to type it in.
	Yeah, Serco is actually a British-owned company.
	Listeners and viewers may or may not know.
	The Crown, again.
	How about The Crown?
	Let's see, is Joe back?
	There he is.
	Joe, are you there?
	Yes.
	I can hear you.
	I can't see you.
	Yes.
	And then the other thing is that VARS, the Vaccine Adverse Event Reaction System, is voluntary.
	Guess who does the data management for them?
	General Dynamics.
	No way.
	Geez.
	Wow.
	Yeah.
	And then you talk about having Mick in charge of the Nick in charge of the plandemic, there you go.
	I was going to tell a little story about general, I call them genital dynamics, but they tried to hire me as a manager not too many years ago and one of the ruses that they got rid of me under after they found out That I was a 9-11 truther is that they created an artificial story about my cocaine abuse, and then they used the pretext that my drug test never came to them because I never took it.
	And of course, I did take the drug screening test and I passed it.
	But as a pilot, all your stuff that's linked to your pilot certificate goes directly to the FAA first before it goes anywhere.
	So anyway, they used that as a pretext to retract the offer, but it was an interesting thing, because I would have been in charge of a whole bunch of people there.
	Once they did the research and found out I was a 9-11 truther, they dropped the offer, and used that as a reason why they couldn't do it, because I was a druggie, and then I said, I'll sue you for defamation.
	They got really pissed off about that.
	The government lies.
	Tell me it's not so, Joe.
	That's too funny.
	Well, Joe, let's see.
	I'm trying to think.
	I'm sorry, Scorpio.
	Here he comes again.
	Let's see.
	Let's get him on this round.
	Quick.
	This is like that Star Trek with Captain Kirk where he was in the space suit and he kept fading in and people thought they were seeing the ghost of Kirk and then they figured out how to finally transport him back to the ship and save him at the end of the show.
	Alright, let's see.
	Joe, are you there?
	Yes, yes.
	Go to AIM, and then the letter 4, truth.org, and look up Plum Book Directory.
	It's got 10,000 people, and you'll be shocked.
	It's an Excel spreadsheet.
	You'll be shocked at how many common names and how many people are related to each other that are part of the bureaucracy in the government that you cannot replace.
	There's your continuation of government organizational chart right there.
	And what was the search?
	Plum what?
	Plum book directory.
	I'll put it in the show notes.
	Oh, great.
	OK.
	That would be awesome.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	Well, let's get Jim Fetzer to jump in.
	And I'm having such a... Oh, go ahead, Joe.
	I thought you dropped out.
	Go ahead.
	Yeah, I'm going to go ahead and drop out because my signal is just cutting in and out every minute.
	Well, I want to take advantage of Dennis being here.
	He has so much to say and he's so expert on so many aspects.
	Dennis, please continue.
	The thing that is so disgusting, you know, we're 20 years out now, and like I said on the show before, is that the public really doesn't care.
	They went backwards in understanding of what really took place, and I think they don't want to know it, because it's so horrible and so ugly.
	That's the component that scared them off, is they only want to They only want to hear yippy-skippy stuff that makes everybody want to, you know, get up and stick their cell phone in their face all day long.
	So, that's where we're at.
	The issue with all the truth that we can spill here, if we had six days of non-stop discussion about all the things that they did on 9-11, we couldn't cover it all.
	But the public doesn't want to hear it.
	They don't want to see it.
	One commenter, by the way, on the last one I did, the idiot put in there a statement.
	He goes, well, there were no planes, moron or idiot or something like that.
	If you were to listen to the show, you would have understood that that's exactly where we were going with it.
	That the aircraft were not part of the, you know, obviously aircraft were part of the narrative.
	But they weren't really a functional part of the destruction.
	The destruction was all controlled demolition and use of nukes and this fabricated bullshit story about Shanksville where they had to burn down their little fake repository of fake artifacts from Flight 93 that didn't exist to get rid of the evidence.
	So, like I said, the public doesn't really want to know it.
	I mean, if I went out on the street today with literature and tried to hand it out, Uh, like I used to with Robin Horton years ago.
	We went to all the ferry terminals up in Washington and stood at intersections and got screamed at and flipped off and all kinds of stuff on what we called civil informationing stuff, thing that we did.
	We handed out a lot of material, CD-ROMs, you know, with information.
	The public, by far and by large, doesn't want to hear it today.
	So, we're speaking to a dummy.
	And that's the tragic part of it.
	That's where we're at.
	We have virtually no audience.
	They'd rather look at stuff other than truth.
	Because truth is ugly.
	It's horrible.
	Well said.
	Yeah, that's true.
	Absolutely.
	I have some really interesting information from a flight attendant.
	Daryl Wayne and I have something else in common.
	A flight attendant from Midwest Express attended the Oriental Medicine College at the same time.
	She's a very cool woman and she actually was uh... in this just shows how elaborate the CIA Mossad scam was deep state scam was uh... uh... so they had this fella Marwan Al-Shihi was going on flights midwest flights several days in advance and she she's been listening to the show and she texted and she goes this guy Marwan Al-Shihi showed me his microsoft flight simulation saved into his laptop computer on the on the flight
	This guy spent the entire flight diligently calculating his routes and showing me the plan to fly, rather drive the airplane over our crew hotel and fly nearly parallel to the ground.
	So they're setting up this narrative so people can then now give this testimony, right?
	The plane I don't think that's relevant.
	So anyway, isn't it amazing that he was on flights that she was on from DC to Boston and several other East Coast flights because she was a full-time flight attendant back then.
	So, really something.
	Well, that's interesting.
	You know, we're down to the final few minutes of the show, and what I'd like to do is just sort of get a final thought from everybody on the panel.
	Maybe we can start with the infamous or famous Jim Fetzer.
	Jim, what are your final thoughts for today, sir?
	Well, Scorpio, it's terrific you got together so many excellent sources to address these issues of 9-11.
	It was a monstrous scam, and in my book, Thierry Meyssan, a French intellectual, got it right back in 2002 when he published Hunt the Boeing on a website, and Pantagate Where he was pointing out that there was no evidence of a plane having hit anywhere near the Pentagon.
	Look as hard as you might, you're not going to find a shred of proof, which indicated that the U.S.
	military command and control structure was involved in this hoax, which meant the whole thing, the whole 9-11 operation was a fraud.
	And stop and think about how many at the Pentagon had to know This was a phony, fake, fabrication, orchestrated, using explosives, pretending a global hawk to fire a missile.
	I mean, taking out the budget experts related to the missing trillions.
	I mean, this has just been a disgrace.
	And until the United States comes to grip with the reality of 9-11, we don't have a hope, not a prayer of moving forward as a nation with any integrity whatsoever.
	Great point, Jim.
	And, you know, I think our biggest impediment right now is so many people, some of these so-called normies, are just waiting for things to go back to normal if they just keep submitting to the protocols that are demanded of them, when in fact the exact opposite is true.
	Mike, final thoughts please, sir.
	Gosh, Dave, I tell you what, I'm just overwhelmed that you would ask me to be a part of this group.
	There is so much knowledge, so much intelligence here, but it has been said, and unfortunately, what we have, the message that we have, 98% of the American public don't want to hear.
	And I am brought back so many times, and not to throw a religious wrench into the works here, but I bring back so many times when I think about Isaiah and the remnant, And when God told Isaiah to go speak to the remnant, and then he told them, he said, well, Isaiah, remember, they're not going to listen.
	And Isaiah basically said, I'm paraphrasing here, he said, well, how will I know if I'm doing it right?
	And God said, well, Isaiah, if a whole lot of people show up and you make money, you're doing it wrong.
	And the thing that we stand for here, gentlemen, is truth And I am so damn proud to have been included in this group and to be included with a group of people who actually feel the same way that truth should predominate.
	Truth should dominate the whole essay.
	But Americans don't want to be free.
	They want to be comfortable.
	And they're about to get damn uncomfortable in their pursuits.
	Dave, thank you.
	Giuseppe, you guys are great.
	I appreciate it.
	The rest of you gentlemen, I feel honored to have been on a program with you.
	Thank you.
	Oh, Mike, thank you so much.
	You always bring a unique perspective to every discussion we have, and I've learned a tremendous amount from you.
	Thank you so much.
	Dennis, please go ahead, sir.
	Final thoughts.
	You've brought some incredible information out today.
	Well, thank you, and I kind of want to parallel what Mike just said, but I want to close my comments here and say that notwithstanding all the people that got sacrificed in the blood sacrifice of 9-11, I wanted to make particular honorable mention to Assistant U.S.
	Attorney Cole, who died a month after 9-11, trying to uncover the truth and trying to expose the fact that the Israelis brought that wreckage out of the Bugha jungle and that's
	what ended up in the Pentagon lawn.
	And unfortunately for his family, they'll probably never, never hear this show or come
	to understand that the reason why their father was murdered was to cover up one of the most
	heinous lies that the U.S. government could ever tell, and that traitors within his own
	organization who should have just taken him aside and said, look, you can't do this, you
	got to skip gears and get off of it.
	Instead they remained silent while he was murdered by a Mossad agent.
	And I think that in honor of him, I'd like to dedicate my part of this show to his memory
	and say thank you for trying to get to the truth.
	Thank you.
	Wow, that's great Dennis.
	Thank you so much for being a part of this.
	Joe, if you're able to connect, what are your final thoughts, sir?
	Yeah, we also have John O'Neill, FBI agent that was executed on 9-1-1.
	Excellent article on that at jamesfetzer.org.
	And then also Veterans Today has almost the full page today of about a dozen articles related to
	9-1-1, including the breathtaking solving nuclear 9-1-1.
	Okay, great.
	Thank you so much, Joe, for coming aboard.
	Sorry for all the technical problems you've had.
	Blackbird9, final thoughts, sir, please.
	Just echoing what everyone else has said, it's been an honor and a privilege to be with you gentlemen today.
	As we say here in North Carolina, to bear witness.
	If nothing else, we are bearing witness that here we are 20 years out.
	We do not believe the official story.
	You lied to us.
	We see what your agenda is, and we see that the same bad actors that carried out 9-11, like we were saying, are behind COVID-9-11.
	And, you know, you look at what their endgame is, and it does not bode well for Western Civilization, and I urge our listeners to research into what that endgame is, because I'm a Gannet.
	So, thank you again for having me.
	Amen!
	That's excellent, Blackbird.
	Yeah, their aim is the end of Western Civilization, to say the very least.
	DW, we're down to the last couple of minutes.
	What would your final thoughts be, sir?
	Well, uh, just what a, what a, just a fantastic player for me.
	And, uh, there's, I, I really don't think I can say anything different than what's been so eloquently and, uh, uh, been stated by everybody before here.
	I agree with all of that.
	Uh, I just spent an absolute pleasure.
	I can't say enough.
	About what you, Dave, and Giuseppe do to make these things available.
	Otherwise, they wouldn't happen.
	And I just want to recognize you guys and all the notorious that are on this call today.
	You know, telling the truth is quite frequently lonely.
	And I know we've all had to experience that.
	And it's days like today when you get together with like-minded men and women and a community in the listening audience and the chat room that appreciate, I believe for the most part, what we're talking about, what we're trying to bring to the table.
	I just would address to people who call themselves Christian and conservative that In scripture, it says to stand in the gap.
	And I just want to remind you, standing in the gap doesn't mean standing around.
	And if, if you think you're normal, it means that you just want to return to your vomit.
	The dog always wants to return to his vomit and we can't go, we can't go back.
	Okay.
	That it's already been cleaned up.
	You're going to have to go forward with us.
	So it's been a pleasure gentlemen.
	Excellent points, Daryl, and thank you so much for all your insight, your unique perspective as well.
	Giuseppe, why don't you take us out?
	Well, with the maudlin ceremonies today and the syrupy garbage and everybody excited for the NFL sports ball, I quote Hegel, we learn from history that we do not learn from history.
	That's great.
	What a great ending to the show.
	Thank you so much for everyone listening, and thank you to all the members of the panel.
	Until next time, take care.
	Bye-bye.
	Thanks, gentlemen.
	Thanks.
	Thanks, everyone.
	Wonderful show.
	Really was.
	Thanks.
	Let's see.
	I thought I removed...
	Oh, well.
	Anyway, yeah, what a phenomenal panel.
	Giuseppe, you'll get this show to Michael Ivey or get it up on Bitshoot, will you?
	Oh, I'll put it up myself, Jim.
	Yeah, please do add a description.
	I can do that, Jim.
	That was just incredible.
	I just want to add that, you know, I was sitting here, like Blackbird said, taking notes and learning.
	I actually learned so much from the show today.
	I just sort of try to keep my mouth shut and take notes because I'm just blown away by the caliber of every single person that was on this panel.
	Thank you so much.
	That was a great point.
	Thanks for the invite.
	Yep, and so we're still on the video.
	Scruppy, if you want to wind it down, it's been a fast but long three hours.
	Yeah, you know, the three hours just went by and again, what can I say?
	I just, I personally learned so much from this panel and you know, Mike, you have a way of sort of just breaking through the bullshit and getting right down to the brass tacks every time.
	And I've been wanting to get you and Blackbird9 together so you guys can meet and talk because you guys come from a similar place in the past.
	and have come to a similar place in the present.
	So it's been great having you two guys together.
	And Dennis, I just was blown away by your input today.
	And I really want to have you back on again and continue because this has just been tremendous all the way.
	Yeah, we have so many things to cover about the flight data recorder contents
	which were fabricated.
	There's 25 hours of data in that protected memory module and the rest of the information is also every bit as relevant as the final flight of the aircraft.
	And that's the point that I wanted to make.
	When you take the ground power off an airplane and put it on aircraft power, it forces the flight data recorder to reboot itself.
	And you can see the reboots in the memory record.
	Interrupts the memory and starts writing again and when I did the analysis many years ago and saw this it was clear that this is a Fabricated product that was possibly using some real information But by far and by large it didn't come from an operating airplane at all.
	It was generated in a lab, so Maybe we'll get a chance to talk about that, but anyway gentlemen you're all excellent, and I appreciated being on with everyone today and And it was an honor to have been able to participate on this particular day, 20 years out.
	And thank you very much for all of your inputs.
	Yeah.
	Thank you.
	And Joe, next time we'll have to have you come on via Skype maybe and avoid these technical problems.
	Cause you, you have so much input as well.
	Yeah.
	Well, it's an ongoing story.
	I've just found out that Veterans Today seems to be spiking their own

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