Truth vs. NEW$ 2nd Hour (7 September 2021) with Don Grahn, Scott Bennett and Holly Seeliger
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You can't handle the truth!
And welcome back, folks, to Truth Vs. News here on September the 7th, four days before
9-11, and all kinds of things have been happening and are going to happen this powerful week,
and something else is all happening in this America.
Take it away, Jim.
What's next?
Well, Don, you're right about that.
Very good, Scott.
Very good.
Meanwhile, as we approach the 20th observance at 9-11, the Taliban spokesman has asserted that there's no evidence that Osama bin Laden was involved in 9-11, about which he is 100% correct.
Many forget that the Taliban said, when the American government asked to turn over Osama, That they'd be willing to do so if they could produce some proof he'd been involved.
We did not do that, but instead invaded Afghanistan.
The fact of the matter is Osama was our man in Afghanistan.
He was instrumental in getting Stinger missiles into the hands of the Mujahideen.
They used to shoot down Soviet helicopters and planes and drive them out.
He was an officer in the CIA, Colonel Tim Osman.
He was visited in a hospital in Dubai shortly before his death by an official of the agency.
He died on 15 December 2001 from his medical maladies.
It's tough to get those dialysis machines in and out of those caves in Afghanistan.
There were local obituaries.
He was buried in an unmarked grave in accordance with Muslim tradition.
CNN and Fox News both caught up to his death by the 26th of December and published it.
David Ray Griffin has a whole book about it.
Osama bin Laden dead or alive.
Barack Obama, however, found it politically expedient to resurrect him and have him die again in a fake raid on a compound in Pakistan a decade later, on the 2nd of May 2011, in order to position himself for a triumphal re-election as a president who got the most wanted man in the world.
But it was a monstrous fraud.
We now have the fascinating prospect that Richard Gage, who has been the head of architects and engineers, has stepped down, which some regard as a great loss.
I, on the other hand, knowing him well, regard this as a significant step forward.
Richard Gage was running a limited hangout.
Architects and engineers were focusing exclusively on how the World Trade Center was destroyed, really more exclusively on Building 7, which they insisted was a controlled demolition.
But where Dan Rather already the day of 9-11 had observed it was a controlled demolition.
And in my judgment, Richard Gage brought us no further toward the truth of understanding what happened on 9-11 than had Dan Rather that very day.
Right.
He was promoting a false theory involving nanothermite, which is a feeble explosive, only one-thirteenth as powerful as TNT.
Indeed, one of the fellow proponents of nanothermite, Niels Harit, who is an associate Professor of Chemistry Emeritus from the University of Copenhagen calculated it would require 29,000 metric tons of nanothermite to blow apart a twin tower.
Also, Richard Gage was instrumental in having a group who were defending the thought that a plane had hit the Pentagon.
It was outrageous and false, so getting Richard Gage out of the way may in fact be a step forward.
Scott and I did a three-part series about the real events of 9-11 on his America Media Periscope Great Awakening show, and I was very pleased to do that.
Preliminary comments to just these initial reports before we turn to the evidence, for example, That the Pentagon was in fact not hit by any plane, which is so extremely telling, since as America's control and command center of the military, if the Pentagon plane attack was fabricated, the whole event was a fraud.
Scott, what are your thoughts?
Well, you're exactly right, Jim.
The work that we did in revealing 9-11 and many others is the holy grail, the gold at the end of the rainbow, a little leprechaun revealing that all Americans need to see and understand because Science doesn't lie.
Facts don't lie.
The laws of physics don't lie.
My father was an aviator.
My uncle was an aviator.
They both said it was impossible for that size of an aircraft to maneuver in the way that it did based on, you know, aerodynamics and density of air and speed of the aircraft and the construction of the aircraft.
Aircraft are all essentially big tin cans.
And without a mark on the grass, there was no airplane that hit the Pentagon.
I drove by the Pentagon the next day when I was doing my doctoral at Catholic University, and I remember to this day looking to my right and seeing a big hole covered with a blue tarp.
No plane, no wheels, no yellow tape, no engines, no bodies, no baggage, nothing!
So this is the greatest fraud that's ever occurred in the history of mankind.
It's sad that it comes out of a nation whose media and government and military constantly celebrate and parade themselves as virtue, you know, paragons and warriors and policemen of the world.
But I think we're seeing that the cup that's clean on the outside is full of dead men's bones on the inside, full of filth and lies and Deceit.
The Taliban and the Afghanistan situation, that's going to be very interesting as it evolves because there should be a 9-11 discussion.
There should be a revelation about what exactly has happened.
Essentially, the Taliban and the Afghanistan chapter, the preamble to the 9-11 terror wars has been sealed.
We've never had conversations with them about this.
I know when I was in Iran, I met with interesting people.
We'll say enough about that, say that they were very interesting.
They were also very high up in the intelligence circles that were telling me Iran had nothing to do with 9-11.
In fact, look at all this evidence that we have on 9-11.
Doesn't this look like it was done by your country?
Absolutely it was!
And that's when the Iranians were accused by the court in New York of being involved with 9-11.
And I said you should come back to New York and testify and bring Jim Fetzer and Kevin Barrett and Richard Gage and Barbara Honiger and everybody to testify about the facts.
And all of the facts that you use in your defense will be used to expose the complete fraud of 9-11 and the impossibility and the scientific ridiculousness of the 9-11 claims.
And it will lead to war crimes against Cheney and Bush and all of these people.
And that still needs to happen.
These people, including digging up Rumsfeld and hanging his skeleton by the neck until dead, that should happen.
And look at all the military people in the Pentagon that participate in this lie.
Very few of them have honored the Constitution.
I did.
I took an oath and got a direct commission as an officer.
I didn't join the military to find my identity.
I went into the military to improve it and to be able to win a war that I was told was started by bad people in another country halfway around the world.
That was a lie.
And I've seen people and people that I knew that were crippled and injured and lost their legs and have come back traumatized beyond all recognition because of this lie!
So yes, this is something that needs to be fully exposed and scrubbed like road rash out of our tissue, because until we do, we will suffer the constant infection of these endless terror wars and a culture and a government that is sick with lies and obsessed with continuing the lie and the strategy of tension on the American people.
So Jim, we have to continue to continually bang the gong of 9-11 as the, you know, the shot that was fired in the air that started this horse race of damnation and suicide.
We have to constantly bring this back to the public and unite with other nations to expose it and that inevitably will roll back and disintegrate and put on the retreat and hopefully throw over the cliff these agents of evil that we've been suffering under for the past 20 years.
Jim?
Holly, your thoughts about these opening observations?
Well, I know we're going to be talking about this topic a lot more next week, and I look forward to doing that.
I do just want to say that I think 9-11 was a massive occult ritual, and I think part of that, the Occultation of what really happened is that when you design, when these people design something like this, you have so many different rabbit holes or cul-de-sacs that you can go down, whether it was thermite, whether it's nuclear, whether it was a missile and CGI was used, all this type of different ways in which people who want to find out the truth can get
Uh, can fall down and then we can start fighting each other about whether it was thermite or whether it was a nuke or, uh, I thought it was kind of interesting that, uh, people are, uh, supposedly Biden has released 9-11 documents which seem to, uh, imply Saudi Arabia's involvement, so that's another rabbit hole that can be, uh, chased, you know, people can fall down instead of us looking at what really happened as far as the planning, the building of these towers in an occult ritual as, uh, The two towers of Joachim and Boaz or the towers of Gog and Magog to try to create the Third World War.
We've seen the 9-11 symbolism in movies and films.
There's a famous magazine cover of Rockefeller with the 9-11 towers in the background with the clock set to 9-11.
So they love to give each other a wink and nod.
And I like how Scott had brought up Rumsfeld's Digging up Brumskull's body reminds me of the Skull and Bones ritual, where they dug up Geronimo's head and kicked it around, and the family of Geronimo literally had to sue to try to get the bones back.
So, I think, you know, whether or not in this lifetime or the next, the people who have perpetrated this massive illusion will get their comeuppance, and I think that's why they are so intent upon trying to perpetuate the lie even 20 years later.
And Jim, let me say this.
The only people that can articulate the 9-11 truth is us as Americans.
Only we as Americans that can stand upon the podium of the world and say, ladies and gentlemen, nations of the world, we have a truth to declare unto you, and that is that this 9-11 event was not as what the government of the United States and the military of the United States and the media of the United States have said it was.
It was a lie, it was a fabrication, it was a false flag, it was engineered, it was theatrical, it was designed for all these other things.
And we as the American people are standing up to expose it.
Only we can do this and save our nation and our life and our future.
If we fail to do it and think we're going to get away with something and think if we just hush hush and don't talk about it, it's going to go away.
No, the damnation and the punishment and the blood for blood that God will demand from this country is coming upon us now.
So there is a spiritual duty to stand up and expose this and proclaim it to the world To resume our life and to create a better world.
We claim to be leaders.
This is the essential leadership position.
I said it when I was in Iran.
I've said it on Russia.
I will say it always, and I know you will too, Jim.
Go ahead.
Well, as founder of Scholars for 9-11 Truth in December of 2005, I brought together research experts from around the world, including engineers, structural, chemical, electrical, civil, pilots, Aeronautical.
Here is one of the five frames that were released by the Pentagon, four of which show a growing fireball that appears to be fake, where I asked Jack White, an expert on photos and films from JFK Research, if he could size the image of a Boeing 757 to the image of the tail here above the gate mechanism with a white plume of smoke.
Now, he did that, and as you can see, it's more than twice the size of what we have here, which turns out to be, it appears, an unmanned aerial vehicle, a Global Hawk, where the white stream of smoke is not the jet exhaust from a jet, which would be black, but a prime missile into the building.
Now here's the alleged hit point.
It's only about 10 feet high, 15 feet wide.
There's chain link fence, unbroken windows, a couple of automobiles, and two spools of cable.
What's missing here is a massive pile of aluminum debris from a 100-ton airliner.
No bodies, no seats, no wings, no luggage, no tail.
Not even the engines were recovered, which are virtually indestructible.
And notice in the facade of the Pentagon, there's no entry hole for the engines to have gone.
About 45 minutes later, you had the collapse of a part of the building, which I believe Donald Rumsfeld directed, because the facade of the Pentagon didn't look seriously damaged sufficiently.
Here is why I think the fireballs are all a fraud.
This is doing excavation in that area that had collapsed.
You notice here on the third floor, there's a stand which appears to be an Oxford unabridged dictionary.
It's made of wood, but it's unsinged.
I see no evidence here of any massive fire having occurred at the Manningham.
Now, according to the official trajectory, this plane barely skimmed the ground at over 400 miles an hour.
Well, guess what?
It turns out that, as aeronautical engineers and pilots have explained to me, because of the phenomenon known as downdraft, sometimes called ground effect, that plane at that speed could not have got closer than 60 or even 80 feet to the ground, which is higher than the Pentagon at 71 feet tall, is high!
So it's a fantasy scenario.
As Scott was observing, moreover, two civilian lime green firetrucks were there almost immediately by coincidence being in the vicinity and extinguished the very modest fires that remain.
Notice no debris whatsoever.
We have hundreds and hundreds of photographs showing no debris on the Pentagon lawn, which only began showing up about 45 minutes later, of which this is by far the most interesting piece.
It is from the fuselage of a Boeing 757, but Does it look as though it was involved in a crash, a violent crash against the Pentagon building?
It would be all crumbled.
Does it look like it's been exposed to an intense fire?
No.
Interestingly, however, it does have a section of vine here entwined in the fuselage.
A vine not indigenous to the Arlington, Virginia area.
Well, guess what?
A retired attorney, James Hansen from Columbus, recognized that Boeing 757s have a very safe record.
He tracked it back to a crash near Cali, Colombia in 1995.
Where the plane went off course, traveled through the jungle where these vines are present, and smashed against the side of a mountain.
It was excavated by an Israeli salvage firm, only to wind up on the Pentagon Law on 9-11.
We'll get this.
Also, according to the official count, the plane encountered a series of lampposts, stationary lampposts, en route to colliding with a building.
Well, by Newton's second law, equal and opposite response, the effect of a A plane traveling over 400 miles an hour hitting a stationary lamppost would be the same as if the plane were stationary, hit by lampposts traveling over 400 miles an hour.
They would have smashed the wings.
The fuel stored there would have mixed with air.
There would have been an explosion.
It would have cartwheeled across the lawn, but as we discovered, the lawn was perfectly clear and green Until that debris began showing up, which I believe was dropped by a C-130 that was circling the building.
Not only that, but a group called Citizens Investigative Team discovered that at a CITGO station here, there were a number of witnesses who reported seeing a plane approach the building, but it was north of the CITGO station.
All the yellow or orange lines, not the green official trajectory, contradicting the account.
Moreover, that I have a friend, Roy Schaefer from JFK Researches.
Buddy, Dave Ball was a trucker who observed a plane fly toward the building and then swerve over it.
I encouraged Roy to have Dave come on my show to talk about it because these witnesses saw the plane fly toward the building and then enormous explosion and assumed, took for granted, that it had been the plane hitting the building when in fact it swerved over.
Dave was reluctant to come on the show.
I told Roy to tell him he'd be safer if he came on and told his story.
By the time Roy got back to me, Dave Ball was found dead in a building, an abandoned building.
Jamie McIntyre, CNN's best reporter on the scene, told the anchor when asking about the plane, that from his own close-up inspection, there was no sign of any plane having hit anywhere near the Pentagon.
There were tiny pieces you could hold in your hand, but no wings, no tail, no bodies, no luggage.
This was Jamie McIntyre.
He was later pressured to retract it, which he did by saying only a fool would deny That a plane had hit the Pentagon, meaning he'd been a fool to believe his bosses wanted him to report the truth about 9-11.
April Gallup was a civilian employee.
A massive explosion, she reported, took place just as he touched her computer.
She went out through the hole and saw no signs of any plane anywhere.
But felt the residue of explosives.
General Albert Stubblebine, formerly in charge of all U.S.
military intelligence, including Photograph, was interviewed in Germany and explained how he knew no plane had hit the Pentagon because there would have been an imprint of the facade of the plane on the limestone of the Pentagon.
I did an interview with General Stubblebine and we went through the evidence I had for all four crash sites and the general not only agreed with me but added additional reasons why I was right that none of the 9-11 aircraft actually crashed on 9-11.
It was fascinating later in the day when, given a rumor that the Capitol was next, members of the House and Senate went on the steps, looked across, and saw billowing black smoke, which I knew was absurd because, remember, those civilian lime green firetrucks had already extinguished the very modest fires.
When I investigated the source of the smoke, it turned out from a series of enormous dumpsters in front of the Pentagon.
In other words, this was a Hollywood-style special effect that was calculated to induce a belief in members of Congress that there'd been a massive fire and explosion at the Pentagon that continued A member of Scholars would come to Duluth and show me 44 more frames where you could see light between the building and the dumpsters.
Scott, this was a total fraud, enormous deception.
Your thoughts?
Well, outrage and aggression and anger are very healthy cleansers that push out of us the debris and the toxicity of the lies that clog our internal spiritual digestive system.
And aggression and anger and fury is very essential and natural to emotionally purge yourself when you discover all of this corruption and lies and deception.
And the revelations of the discovery of 9-11 is almost like a hyperbolic chamber coming out from a deep sea dive.
You go through an experience of decompression, of emotional outrage, of all the classical signs of coming to grips with a trauma.
This was a trauma upon us individually.
This is a trauma upon us collectively as a nation and as a world.
But we have to embrace and go towards the truth.
Assemble the facts, assemble the evidence, and get wisdom, and get knowledge, and get understanding from people and experts that can provide us with things that resonate, that make sense, that connect.
And the more we connect, the more we assemble the jigsaw puzzle of the 9-11 truth, The more we see exactly that the CIA and the Mossad and the Saudi intelligence services conspired with Saudi Arabia to create this false flag event in the hopes it would trigger a step five country who was at seven countries in five years military juggernaut and the miscalculation of course
Was that all of these Middle Eastern regimes were simple card houses that a gust of wind blown by the lips of Uncle Sam, you know, animated with the retarded stuttering of George Bush would simply Blow them all down, and we could lay a parking lot and build a Walmart, Starbucks, alternative American colonial empire economy, and they wouldn't think twice.
They would say, thank you, now we can live lives as good little Democrats.
That was the original two-dimensional psychopathic interpretation of how the world would respond.
And instead, they forgot that there's iron rebar in those card houses of Middle Eastern regimes, and that is the historicity, the religious purpose and identity and memory, and the moral integrity and certain tribalism that makes up the DNA of these people all across, from Libya, from Syria, from Iraq, to Afghanistan, to Iran.
And we have completely miscalculated this.
We've suffered $2.6 trillion.
We've suffered how many American lives?
Jim, if there's anything that should justify a 1776 French Revolution in this country, it is 9-11.
And we have two types of people, either those on the side of truth and evidence and facts and speaking the truth and standing firmly upon the truth, Or those who want to continue in the lies, in the death, in the madness of pretending 9-11 was something other than a complete false flag event designed for evil purposes.
Jim?
Well, of course, we're looking here at the Pentagon and the proof that no plane hit the Pentagon, because if the government lied about the Pentagon, obviously they lied about the totality of 9-11.
Holly, your thoughts?
Well, I think we owe it to the people, our soldiers, all the people who died on 9-11, the soldiers who were sent to the Middle East and died or were maimed, injured, all the casualties there, the millions of people in the Middle East who were murdered for the wrong reasons, the countries that the United States invaded under false pretenses.
We owe it to all these people.
And the past 20 years to continue to talk about this to continue to expose it and we can't have justice and we can't have a fair society and we can't have an America without like Scott said, owing it to the people of the world.
We have to take it upon ourselves to continue to expose this.
And it's just going to get worse.
The chickens are going to come home to roost.
Everything that was perfected, the war on terror will be implemented upon us as we have known and we've been trying to blow the whistle on for years.
So every little detail, every little discrepancy needs to be continued to go forward.
And we need to teach the next generation, the kids who are born after this event, you know, the 20 years that have happened, the kids who have grown up, I do have a lot of hope for people, young people who have not been brainwashed by all of this, by the 20 years of indoctrination, who look at this event for five minutes, you know, if they can actually see the exact evidence that they're going to see this for what it is, which was a fraud.
There are reports that supposedly, you know, the Taliban is going to end the poppy fields over there, that they don't want the poppy fields there, the people in Afghanistan who want to actually grow food and actually repair their economy and not be involved in this war economy.
Over there.
I do hope that people over there can start taking their country back the way that we need to take our country back from the war economy as well.
I encourage everyone to check out the three-part series that Scott and I did on America Media Periscope.
Scott, you have a final thought?
Yeah, Holly provoked something as usual.
That's the reason that they are probably injecting everybody as quickly as possible in the military, because they know when the 9-11 revelations are assembled, when the logic is there, when all of the facts are put together, the military will have an outrage and a A sense of constitutional duty to exact vengeance upon those who did it.
It makes sense that they're trying to inoculate with a fake vaccine that will kill them, the military, as quickly as possible so that it will make them incapable of any sort of assembling and movement and any sort of, you know, rising up in defense because of the 9-11 and the children.
They need to vaccinate with this death vaccine, the military and the children, to make them idiots, retards, and die so that as the 9-11 comes to full fruition and it becomes a status quo, everybody becomes aware of it, the material's out there, you can't hide it, suddenly you are physically and emotionally, intellectually incapable of responding with the necessary vengeance and justice.
That sort of explains to me why they're in such a suicidal push for this vaccine and the military and elsewhere,
because their only means of survival is to cripple and dumb down people as quickly as possible
and make them infertile as quickly as possible.
And that's what the vaccine does.
That's why every military member should not get the vaccine, should recognize it as an order for suicide.
It is an unlawful order.
And every military person that ever occupied that building, the Pentagon, has a moral and ethical constitutional duty
to stand up and say, where was I in the Pentagon attack?
What was I doing?
What did I see?
I don't care if it's hundreds, if not thousands.
Every military officer or non-com has a duty to report where they were, what they saw, what they did on 9-11 at the Pentagon.
Because if you can't rely on people in uniform to tell the truth, you have no truth in this country, we have no military, and we have no future.
Jim?
Terrific stuff, Scott and Holly.
It's great to be back.
Don, take us out.
Oh, wow.
How'd I go out?
And we're gonna have more next week on New York at 9-11.
And it's really something else.
And so thanks so much for watching here on Truth Vs. News here on September 7th.
Get this out to everybody you can before the September 11th.
Get them to see this last half about the truth about 9-11 so they remember facts, not fantasy.