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The Real Deal (20 March 2021) with Sarah Westall on COVID-19 Threats
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This is Jim Fetzer, your host on The Real Deal, where I'm very pleased to feature today Sarah Westall, an investigative journalist who continues to unearth important information of great relevance to the American people, in this case concerning their health, in the midst of the COVID crisis and all the censorship that's taking place, which is not to our benefit.
Sarah, fill us in.
Well, I created a new documentary called Humanities Decision.
It was a work of passion for me, I think.
It just came out of me, and I just feel that it's really important that this information gets out to people.
It wasn't done in a way that is political, I don't think.
It's all factual-based, and it's meant to reach more people, not people that are already Really educated on the truth, but others to get a broader base and reach people so that we understand more.
People can understand more what we're dealing with and the truth behind this because the propaganda that we're dealing with is so thick.
I mean, it's incredible the propaganda that we're seeing and I know you know what I'm talking about.
It is incredible.
It's as if there's two societies, one that doesn't believe the propaganda and looks for themselves, and then the other that believes the propaganda.
And it's becoming more difficult for both sides to communicate with each other because the propaganda is so disconnected from the truth.
And I mean, would you agree with that?
Oh, Sarah!
100%.
I mean, the censorship and propaganda, they're not giving the truth about even the most basic statistics.
They're trading on an ambiguity by not differentiating between cases that are merely test results and individuals who are actually sick.
They're equivocating on the difference between dying with COVID-19 and dying from COVID-19 because there are a tremendous number who may die With COVID-19, but only a tiny percentage who die from COVID-19.
And then, of course, all the attacks on HCQ and Ivermectin are just outrageous.
Thousands, even millions of lives could be saved if they were to endorse these readily available, inexpensive cures.
Yes.
And that's the part that is so disturbing.
And why are they forcing this vaccine on the world when there are treatments that are inexpensive and safer than the vaccine?
And people need to wake up to that fact.
And so what are the nefarious reasons behind that?
Is it just money?
Or is there something else?
I don't know, we all know that money is a big enough motivator for them to do things like this, but we also know that there's a depopulation agenda, so what's really going on here?
But if you will, I'd love to, it's only a little over 11 minutes long, I'd love to play it for the audience.
That would be terrific, Sarah, please do.
Okay, so let me start sharing the screen here.
Okay, let me share my screen.
Host disabled participants share screen sharing.
Okay, so this is the the poster for the documentary.
I need to go in and you're going to see the rest of my stuff for a quick second here while I go back to full screen.
Okay, there we go.
This is my beginning of the documentary.
So let's go.
Here we go.
Welcome to business game changers.
I'm Sarah Westall. The intention of this mini documentary is for people to share with those
family members and friends who have not heard up the volume if you can sir.
It's important for everyone to realize the first amendment is specifically there. Is that good?
People's right to access information that those in power do not want you to see.
We are in a time where medical information not supporting the official narrative is being
withheld, heavily censored, or banned.
The establishment wants you to believe that they are only shielding you from disinformation that will potentially harm you and put the health of your family at risk.
I believe there's sufficient evidence proving that this is simply not true, and I intend you to show you that evidence today.
In an enlightened, free society, people have the right to access information and make their own decisions about their lives, their bodies, and their families' welfare.
Every human being is born with this natural right, and any obstruction towards this goal is a violation of basic human rights.
The studies and data discussed is all available at sarahwestall.com.
For a vaccine to be necessary, it is important that no effective and safe treatment exists that can eradicate the disease.
In the case of COVID-19, the CDC and those in positions of influence have been telling people that effective treatments do not exist and that vaccines are the only way out of brutal lockdowns and school closures.
This is simply not true.
There are two treatments that have been shown to be highly effective with no side effects and are very affordable.
There are likely more treatments as well, but I'm going to focus on two highly effective ones that have already been fully demonstrated and tested.
The first treatment was shared by Dr. Richard Bartlett.
He shared a simple asthma inhalant coupled with an antibiotic and zinc.
He first made waves last year with his viral video about his incredible success treating COVID-19 patients with a common asthma inhalant.
He was vilified by the media.
by Dr. Anthony Fauci.
However, recent studies, including one out of Oxford University, have since validated his claim, stating that the majority of hospitalizations and death could have been avoided with this simple treatment.
I have shared his description and a link to a video describing this treatment at sarahwestall.com.
The second treatment, and one that is not only effective for COVID-19, but also for many other illnesses, including the entire family of COVID-19, bacterial pneumonia, Ebola, and many others, is called Chlorine Dioxide Solution, or CVS for short.
The treatment has been banned in the United States and has been vilified by the media, but the U.S.
Navy has successfully used it for treating Ebola.
This shows clearly that the medical establishment within the CDC and our military knows full well that CVS is highly effective and safe.
And for those that still don't know or unaware of NABY's use of CDS, they can read the studies.
The most recent Stage 3 trials led by Dr. Andreas Kalker out of Switzerland show its effectiveness.
The treatment is now being used in over 24 countries by over 4,000 doctors and has successfully treated more than 20,000 people and quite a bit more by now.
Currently, there are over 60,000 medical professionals involved in learning and sharing its effectiveness around the world.
You can hear Dr. Kalker in his own words on how this treatment works and how medical professionals can learn more about how to legally administrate it to patients on my website at sarahwestell.com.
Both of the treatments mentioned cost only a few dollars each to administer.
They also could easily be widely available if governments allow their use.
While I just showed you that there are effective and affordable treatments that exist, the establishment, however, still wants everyone to take the vaccine.
For a vaccine to be necessary, a set of conditions need to exist.
First, no effective, affordable, and widely available treatment exists.
Two, the vaccine is safe and effective.
And three, the disease is sufficient enough risk to warrant a vaccine.
Since we already established number one, the other two conditions do not matter.
But for the sake of this argument, and since the medical establishment is still heavily pushing the vaccine, it is important to cover the safety and effectiveness of these vaccines.
There are multiple indicators now that show that COVID vaccines are not only not safe, but also not very effective.
After all, the CDC in its latest report said that they do not know if those taking the vaccine will still contract the disease and spread it to others.
Regardless of its effectiveness, there exist serious concerns about the safety of the vaccines.
According to data released March 5, 2021 by the CDC, the number of injuries and deaths reported in the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System, also called VARS, following COVID vaccine continues to climb.
Between December 14, 2020 and February 26, a total of 25,212 total adverse events were reported to
VARS, including 1,265 deaths and 4,424 serious injuries.
Here's a graph showing how the total adverse events break down.
While these adverse effects seem bad, as a percentage of the population it's not that extreme if no effective treatments exist.
But effective treatments do exist and I've already shown that the data shows that those treatments will produce less deaths and less side effects.
But there are more potential safety issues with the vaccines and these potential issues are far worse.
I'm I'm going to show three areas concerns have been pointed out by studies and medical professionals regarding the vaccines.
There are likely more risks but I'm only going to focus on these three.
The first concern is whether the COVID vaccines cause permanent infertility.
I previously published a report and a mini documentary on this issue that you can find at sarahwessel.com.
report states former Pfizer head of respiratory research Dr.
Michael Yeaton and the former head of the public health department Dr. Wilking Woodard have
filed a petition for a stay of action asking the European medicine agencies to suspend
phase three of the clinical trials for Pfizer, BioNTech vaccine and all other clinical trials.
They cite significant safety concerns and request all trials are halted until specific criteria
outlined in their stay action is met which will ensure efficiency and safety. Yeaton and Ward on
claim that it's not only possible the vaccine could provoke serious unwanted antibody and
immune reactions but it must be absolutely ruled out that a vaccine will not render
women infertile by disrupting their placentas should they become pregnant. Again you can see
the petition of studies and my report or documentary at sarahwestcell.com.
The second concern is whether RNA-based vaccines inactivates tumor-suppressing proteins, which would produce significantly increased cancer rates.
Scientists at Sloan Kettering found in their recent clinical research that the information-carrying molecule, messenger RNA, can instruct human cells ultimately in the same way as cancer drivers playing a major role in causing cancer to
thrive while inactivating natural tumor suppressing proteins that human body creates to save
you from cancer. You can learn more about this study if you go to the Sloan Kettering website and
search for the article, scientists find cancer drivers hiding in RNA not DNA. It is important
to note that they state that the specific RNA cells discussed in the research are not
involved in mRNA-based COVID vaccines.
But there was no follow-up studies to show that their statement is factually true.
In the world of ethical science, further studies would need to be conducted to prove that fact.
A simple one-line statement does not suffice considering the broad function found within RNA cells and our primitive or infancy understanding of how RNA really works.
The third and most concerning issue is whether RNA-based vaccines cause long-term adverse effects that are worse than the disease they're trying to treat.
A recent study by Clawson Immunotherapies on 1-1821 raises some serious questions about the long-term consequences of RNA-based vaccines.
The study points out that vaccines have been found to cause a host of chronic, late-developing adverse effects.
Some adverse effects like type 1 diabetes may not occur until three to four years after a vaccine is administered.
Further, it states that RNA-based vaccines offer special risks of inducing specific adverse events.
One such potential adverse event is prion-based diseases caused by activation of intrusive proteins to form prions.
A wealth of knowledge has been published on a class of RNA-binding proteins shown to participate in causing a number of neurological diseases, including Alzheimer's disease and ALS.
Further, the study states that prions are known to cause ALS, front temporal lobar degeneration, Alzheimer's disease, and other neurological degenerative diseases.
The enclosed finding, as well as additional potential risks, leads the author to believe that regulatory approval of the RNA-based vaccines for SARS-CoV-2 was premature and that the vaccine may cause much more harm than benefit.
Again, you can find the study at sarahwestell.com.
The concern that the COVID vaccines can cause more harm than actual disease it's targeting has been sidelined in the quest to get a vaccine to everyone.
Considering that very effective therapeutics for COVID-19 exist that bring the fatality rate and side effects at near zero, why are we even remotely considering an unproven and potentially risky vaccine?
Other preventative options and treatments exist.
However, you will not find them easily in the mainstream media.
In fact, the propaganda media and establishment has been working hard to persuade people from believing anything effective exists outside of taking a vaccine.
You just have to look at the fake and shocking Lancet study they did on hydroxychloroquine to come to that disappointing conclusion.
The combination of nearly 100% effective therapeutics for COVID and a propaganda media and establishment that is working hard to obscure the existence of those treatments while pushing untested vaccines, implementing draconian lockdowns, that are increasing suicides, depression and other illnesses, while destroying small businesses and delaying children's education, is why lawsuits charging crimes against humanity have been initiated and are desperately needed.
The lockdowns and economic destruction have increased starvation around the world.
It is estimated by the United Nations that over 100 million more children who are in poverty will die or are dying of starvation due to these measures.
We have never experienced in the history of the world so much death and destruction inflicted upon our human family caused by the decisions of other human beings.
Nazi Germany, the Russian Bolshevik Revolution, and Chinese Mao-led communist takeover does not compare to this level of suffering.
We must look at the bigger picture if we are to evolve as a human race and not revert to barbaric short-sighted
actions and remedies. You can learn more about the important lawsuit charging crimes
against humanity at sarahwestall.com.
Please share this very important documentary with those who are still shielded
from this important information. Thank you for supporting independent journalism and my work.
God bless.
Okay.
Sir, I think that was a very significant piece of work and the fact that you have clear criteria
such as the disease should be serious enough to warrant a vaccine, that there should not be
more readily available cheaper effective methods and that the vaccine should not have
serious side effects are not satisfied in this case.
I mean, your enumeration of the side effects of Infertility, cancer, even the formation of prions.
I mean, that's shocking!
And it's clear that individuals such as Dr. Anthony, I call him Tony the Rat Fauci, were actually fulfilling his role within the structure of the National Institutes of Health.
He ought to be pointing out that Because based upon these criteria, the vaccines do not qualify.
They ought not to be used when in fact he's arguing precisely the opposite to the detriment and harm of the American people, indeed of the world's population.
Well, that's why it's crimes against humanity.
You know, Israel government, the government of Israel, just petitioned to do a case for crimes against humanity for their forced passport and their forced vaccination.
There's the other one that it was pointed to in this documentary.
And I actually got this information from you, that the Council of Europe has determined that mandatory vaccines is against human rights.
You know, what is going on here?
This is against the Nuremberg Code.
This is against the Geneva Convention.
It's just basic common sense that you shouldn't be doing this.
Why are these treatments being censored and banned?
You have to ask that question.
It's because they don't make money for Big Pharma, that they don't advance a depopulation agenda of the World Economic Forum, they don't advance a Great Reset.
I think it's increasingly obvious that we're in the grip of a conspiracy, the dimensions of which boggle the mind.
It's over the top, I know.
And that's why this this documentary doesn't get into much more than just questioning those things.
Because I did it on purpose, you know, I mean, I don't know, that was what I was, it was kind of like this download, I was supposed to do this.
And I just, it's not meant to be political.
It's not meant to point at all the things that we both talk about, the Great Reset and all these things, which that's right behind the scenes on this, you know, depopulation, the Great Reset.
I mean, these are all the reasons.
But the documentary doesn't go into that to reach as many people as we can to start getting them to question.
I mean, you've got to question these basic things.
By the way, I've been staggered in my personal life to learn that six of my closest and dearest relatives, including my favorite niece and nephew and one of my brothers, have already taken the jab I mean, I'm telling you, it's a very serious matter, particularly when the consequence, the effects, only manifest after a delayed period of time, such as Dr. Sherry Tenpenny has explained that the infertility dimension, the sterilization, clicks in three to six months after you take.
And of course, it would be quite a while before the prions would develop.
That requires a The activation of various proteins that then organize to create them, which of course is a brain-killing disease.
This is also known as mad cow disease.
And the very idea that we could be injecting a large percent of the world's population with vaccines that would promote a brain-killing mechanism like that is horrific.
Horrific.
Do you think the lie is too big for people to even grasp?
I mean, it's hard for me to believe, even though I have all the facts, that they would actually depopulate with this thing.
That they are serious.
You know what I mean?
It's like, oh my gosh.
You're absolutely right, Sarah.
Goebbels, Hitler's propaganda minister who advocated the big lie, because ordinary people are used to telling little lies, you know, where they were, where they weren't, who they saw, who they didn't, what they did, what they didn't.
But to imagine a lie of this order is simply beyond their comprehension, which is why When it's introduced and then repeated over and over, and when you have a population that wasn't skilled at research anyhow, but used to passively receiving information, when they hear it from multiple sources, they tend to think that's independent verification, when in fact the multiple sources are all controlled by the same sources of information.
They're being played.
Hence, it turns out that television in particular is the greatest brainwashing mechanism ever designed by the hand of man.
Yeah and that's why my second documentary series that I'm working on and I put up part one is called Mind War and it was based on the military's how they went from just basic propaganda to psychological operations to mind war and what the differences of that are and how psychological operations is an accessory to war And it gets people to support the war and they claim that they didn't win the Vietnam War because they didn't win the hearts and minds of the people because they lost the psychological operation.
The Vietnamese did a better job.
The Russians did a better job against us than we did against them and against our own people.
So they since then they went to this mind war concept where mind war is the war.
And that convincing the people things are a certain way is the war.
And that's what we're waged, is being waged upon us and what we're fighting against.
You know, on top of, you know, people talk about spirituality and everything else, but this is really the military tactic.
And I started with the leaked document from 1980, a military document.
And that's what I focused on first.
And then I'm going to move into in the next parts, The actual books that were put out by various colonels and generals and people that work for the Pentagon on mind wars.
And then the technology, you know, I've started on the technology that, you know, the ionization and the things they can do with EMF waves to get a person to be more apt to believe things and the different methods.
But the next one will be just how, because that was 1980 that they talked about it.
So, okay, what happened in 40 years?
What now?
They're so sophisticated.
They're so good at it now.
And that's what we're up against.
And how do we break through that?
And the average person and the average mind, are they able to break through it?
I mean, it's much like a cult brainwashing.
Because if you give somebody something in a fearful environment, if there's a fear-based situation, which COVID is, And then you tell them lies over and over in a fear-based environment.
If later you tell them the truth, they won't believe it.
No matter what.
I mean, they just will not believe it.
It's something about the human condition that they cling to that lie.
And so there's all these things going on.
And what makes it that certain of us are not as prone to that.
Why are we always needing to see the facts and the critical information and we don't believe anything until we see, you know, proof of it?
And then others are just completely malleable.
They are just, they can be brainwashed.
What is that difference?
And how do we convert somebody from a person that can be brainwashed really easily into somebody that can start critically thinking for themselves who cannot be brainwashed?
No, no, those are the challenges that we have.
Those are very searching questions, Sarah.
As Mark Twain observed, it's easier to fool a man than to convince him he's been fooled.
So once they're hooked on the propaganda, they have to admit that they've been taken in, and most humans have a difficult time doing that, even though it might be in their best interest to acknowledge they've made a mistake.
Your case of the Vietnam War is an interesting one because we were there picking up the reins of a neocolonial effort by the French, which had exploited Vietnam as a source of natural resources.
All the propaganda in the world wouldn't have worked there, in my opinion, because, first of all, the Vietnamese people are fiercely nationalistic.
Second of all, we don't look like them.
We were the invaders, and any nationalistic population is going to come together when confronting the threat of a foreign invader.
And in the third place, we had no good reason for being there in the first place.
JFK wanted to get us out.
He'd actually already signed a directive that all U.S.
forces should be out of Vietnam by the end of 1964.
But of course, he didn't live to see that fulfilled, and it was one of the reasons why he was taken out.
Yeah, but imagine if they had the propaganda machine they have now.
What could they and could they could the Vietnamese be completely all the same factors that you just mentioned?
But the Americans were completely cut off from them.
And the news media that was being projected to us was all fake.
Kind of like, you know, I was watching when Germany with this COVID situation, they claim that the protests in Germany were shut Down because people weren't social distancing and masking this was like last June or something I don't remember the date and I've searched on the internet and it was media article after media article talking about how they shut down these protests and then I was on YouTube and other video places watching things live and there were millions of people in the street talking and it was
It was the biggest protest going on in the world.
However, the American people only saw the propaganda unless you went directly to the video shoots from independent sources.
And I'm wondering, you know, with that level of control, what would we have now?
You know what I'm saying?
Well, Sarah, it wouldn't work, I think, in Vietnam because of the other differences I described, but it can sure work right here in the USA, particularly in restricting access and special pleading and only selecting the evidence you want to present to support your version of the events versus the evidence that would contradict it, just as you so nicely illustrated here with the protest.
Claiming they were blocked down by social distancing, which turned out to be absurd.
They were protesting against social distancing.
They were not social distancing.
And they were out there by the hundreds of thousands, even millions.
Over two million.
Over two million, yes.
Well, let's not let the American people see that because they might get the idea that something very bad is going on, something sufficiently threatening to draw two million Germans out into the streets in protest.
Let's give some version of this story that reinforces the narrative we're attempting to promote, which is the extensive threat from the COVID pandemic Even though if you do your research, you'll find that a study that slipped through the cracks from Johns Hopkins showed that when you compare different age groups in 2020 versus 2019, there was no increase in any age group.
And that if there had been all these deaths in hospital, it would have increased the consumption of oxygen, but there was no increase in oxygen tanks or for IV stands and drip, so it shows a whole thing is an elaborate hoax.
elaborate hoax Sarah right down to the bottom line the claim that all these people it is
go ahead you know what Jim I had the CDC original data back in March timeframe, no, May timeframe, something like that, showing that there wasn't a statistical increase in death.
This was 2020 in May, end of April.
And there was no statistical increase in death.
And this was 100% of the districts, or I don't know, they call it areas, it's not quite like voting districts, but they have districts or regions that report up to the CDC.
100% reporting, and I compared it four years back, and there wasn't a statistical increase, especially when you accounted for the population growth, right?
And then, once you know it, in June, they went back and changed the numbers.
The CDC went back and changed the numbers.
And I had, I compared my original spreadsheets to the new numbers.
They just changed them!
They didn't say they changed them.
They didn't say why they changed them.
They just changed them.
So nobody knew, unless you were like me and you downloaded all those original stats and analyzed that stuff and had copies of it, no one would even know.
They went back and changed it and doctored it to make it look like there was an increase in deaths.
It's like, well, these deaths, how could there be an increase when after 100% of reporting?
Then you went back and changed the numbers after 100% of the deaths were already reported?
I'm telling you, I caught them cheating or changing these numbers.
And so I didn't go into number three in my analysis.
You know, there has to be three things, like the disease has to be warranted.
I didn't talk about that because you could Talk about the flu, you know, because I, you know, this might all be the flu, this COVID, or it might be another strand.
There's something out there, okay?
And so you could argue, well, there's still 60-some thousand deaths from the flu, and some people say that's not real, but let's, let's say at least it's in the CDC numbers.
The other stuff has been fabricated.
So you've got to argue, is that worth it or not?
I don't know and I don't want to argue.
I can't argue whether deaths are worth it or not for, you know, a vaccine.
But you sure can argue when there's an effective treatment that doesn't have side effects.
That's why I didn't get into number three.
And it wasn't even, it's not even a necessary argument or debate.
But yeah, you're absolutely right.
What the American people don't understand is the CDC is basically a private entity, and it receives lots of funding from organizations like Bill Gates, and it represents a marketing arm of big pharma, so that in the past, they weren't selling enough flu vaccines, there weren't enough flu deaths to motivate people to get the vaccine, so the CDC invented a new notion of flu-associated deaths.
And then the numbers when they called it flu-associated deaths went up, and the vaccine sales for the flu vaccine went up, and they've done a very similar thing here.
They are now simply reclassifying all the flu deaths as COVID-19 deaths.
They're doing that.
It's so blatant.
They're just changing the numbers where you caught them with their pants down.
Boldly changing the numbers.
And then, as I mentioned before, they're equivocating between dying from COVID, the percentage of which is minuscule, and dying with COVID, most of which is made up anyway, because they're using the PCR test, which is known to give 97% false positives.
So they're taking anyone who gets a Positive tests from PCR, which is almost certainly going to be false, and using that to identify a death with COVID as though it were a death from COVID.
It's a massive scam, Sarah.
It's a marketing tool.
And the problem is, it's not just for Big Pharma to increase their profit margins, which they're doing astronomically.
But it's actually to promote depopulation of the world and the introduction of the Great Reset, which is going to deprive all of us of everything that ever gave meaning and joy and happiness to our lives.
Well, and that's the scary part.
The reason why I compared the statistical difference is just to show there is no pandemic.
There has to be a statistical increase of deaths in order for there to be... I mean, I don't care what's happening.
If there's no statistical increase, then what are we doing?
But regardless, you're absolutely right.
I mean, this is beyond just COVID.
We're talking about the depression and the suicides and the starvation.
The starvation might be the worst part of the immediate death situation, you know, because they always talk about how they want to, this great reset, they want to reduce poverty.
Well, you're immediately reducing poverty by making sure they all die.
Is that your way of reducing poverty?
Because I guess you're going to get rid of, I just saw the last date, the world A food bank says that 270 million more people are going to die of starvation.
I said 100 million from the UN in the documentary, but that's children.
They're talking about 270 million people.
So is that how you're going to immediately reduce poverty?
Because you're just going to let them die of starvation?
I guess you did succeed, you know?
I mean, is that their reasoning?
They're out to extinguish six to seven billion, so what we're talking about there is just a drop in the bucket to kick things off.
I know, I know.
They are serious about this, I have no doubt.
Remember, Edwin Deagle had the deagle.com website where he has now just departed this earth, but where it shows a projection of the U.S.
population from around 330 million in 2020 to only 99 million in 2025.
So that's a reduction.
I think it's gone down.
That's a reduction of 230 million.
I think it's gone down. That's a reduction of 230. I think it's like a 70.
It's a reduction. I think they've reduced it to like 69.
In five years, Sarah, 230 million.
That's two out of three Americans are going to be dead in five years.
Within five years!
Look around!
Well, I think they reduced it to 69 million just to make your day.
But I did do research into that website and are you sure it's this Edwin Deagle?
Because I did research into him and they spelled Deagle, his is spelled D-L-E and theirs is G-L-E versus G-E-L.
And then there was a site that said that it was not related to him.
It doesn't mean that it's still not valid.
I'm just saying I don't know if it was his or not.
And then I did some more research where we looked at the source code and tried to figure out where it's coming from.
And they're using Yandex, which is like Google, you know, they have Google tools that a lot of corporations use, or Amazon tools.
A lot of corporations use all these tools to do their websites, the broader, more sophisticated websites.
Well, they're using Yandex, which is the Russian-based version of Amazon type tools.
And so they know what they're doing is the bottom line.
You can't get into their code because it's all just a function calls to Yandex
and their data is hidden behind Yandex.
And so it's a very well-written software application, which I was surprised to see.
So whoever's doing it has some pretty good software developers developing it
and they're using some pretty good tools.
And it's Russian-based tools.
It doesn't mean it's Russian, it just means it's Russian-based tools.
Yandex is, there is a new, in Silicon Valley they opened a new division there, so it's becoming worldwide, but it is Russian-based.
I thought that was interesting.
You know, because what what the hell is this?
The other thing is, is they have information on military stuff going on every day.
They have new articles that are geared for the military.
So who the heck is updating this daily?
It may have nothing to do with Edwin Deagle, but did I understand you to say that they've even dropped the estimate for 2025 from 99 to only 66 million Americans?
69 is what I saw last.
Good God!
I don't know, it fluctuated.
Just to throw that out there for you.
I don't know.
And why is that?
They claim that, you know, when you read their description of why they believe it's going to happen, it's because there's going to be a collapse of our economy, which I don't doubt.
Just like the Russian, you know, the Soviet Union collapsed.
When the Soviet Union collapsed, they had 10% of their population was wiped out.
But we are more dependent, and we don't have good supply channels.
We don't grow our own food.
We are not self-sufficient people.
So the amount of people that are going to die when our economy collapses is higher.
That was their reasoning.
But, you know, I don't know.
Well, Sarah, I believe you're right in that, you know, The Great Recept, or the collapse of America, or the depopulation has three dimensions.
The first is wearing masks.
Wearing masks is very damaging to your health.
I mean, you're recycling oxygen-depleted air.
That has the effect of killing brain cells, and that's irreversible.
There are many cells in the body, like skin cells.
You can destroy skin cells.
You just have a scraping on your skin.
Those regenerate.
Brain cells do not.
Also, of course, you're putting a strain on your cardiovascular system.
I mean, the idea of seeing young girls playing soccer wearing masks is just awful.
We have some of the world's leading experts saying having children in mass is an offensive criminal activity because they need oxygen to develop their brains and to promote their growth.
Then, of course, we have the shots So I think the masks are killing us slowly, the shots are killing us faster, but that the vast majority of deaths are going to come from starvation, that they're going to bottle up the food supply.
We have Bill Gates buying up farmland right and left, which is very strange until you realize he's one of the masterminds behind the whole world depopulation agenda, and it was he Who insisted now for decades that the greatest risk to mankind was not from nuclear warfare, which is overwhelmingly the case, but instead from a pandemic, because he was planning, planning to bring us that pandemic to accomplish those very goals.
Are you there?
Yes, yes.
Okay.
Yeah, I agree.
Now, there's a really good breakdown of Bill Gates and all the nefarious things he has been doing in Africa, in India, and different things with the Gavi and his Bill and Linda Gates Foundation with these vaccines.
They've been caught doing some really nefarious things over in Africa and India with children and these vaccines, and there is still a vaccine, DTP, I believe, that in Africa, don't quote me, I believe that's what it is, and 10 times more kids are dying from the vaccine than the disease itself, and they're still forcing these kids to take it.
This is in Africa.
And that's very well documented.
And it's I'm surprised that any black person in Africa at all would take a vaccine from these guys ever again.
I mean, I don't know anybody that actually knows the truth.
Why would you listen to these people?
I, you know, I'm not an anti-vaccine person, but I'm anti these guys.
I don't trust these guys.
You know, I want people that I trust and respect to doing my health care.
I don't trust Fauci.
He's wearing triple masks and double masks and telling people, vaccines, you still got to mask and social distance.
He's the one that wrote the article that more people died of bacteria infections during the Spanish flu than the Spanish flu.
And he knows darn well it's because they're wearing masks and other things that were causing it.
He wrote this darn article.
This guy is a creep.
And I am not against vaccines.
I am not against good health care practices.
But I'm against criminals running it.
I'm against these guys.
I mean, can't we find somebody better than these guys?
I mean, how do we get to a situation where the worst of the worst of us, who nobody trusts that has a brain, are the ones who are leading us?
I mean, that's the problem that we're in.
I mean, Gates?
I mean, anybody that was in the software industry knows that the guy is a horrible human being.
He used his monopoly to crush business after business after business, and then he realized the vaccine industry is much more lucrative.
And he's already, he was already a eugenicist, you know, his family has those ties.
Now we got this, one of the world's wealthiest person, Who is a eugenicist pushing vaccines?
I mean, what are we doing as a human?
And then we have the propaganda mind where people, just like zombies, believing everything they're being told.
It's really a hard thing to, for someone who's informed, to not be incredibly frustrated with how ineffective The truth is right now, you know what I mean?
I know the truth wins out in the long run, but my gosh, I mean, if we don't get the truth out to more minds, there's going to be more people dying.
And I just, that's what this documentary is for, is anybody who's still on the fence, I'm trying to reach those people.
At least give, share with as many people as you can, And tell them to please just wait.
Wait a couple years.
You've got a strong immune system.
Nobody in their 20s and 30s, and no child for God's sake, should take these vaccines.
Just wait.
Let's wait it out.
Just see what happens.
Just beg them to wait a little bit.
Just see.
Give yourself some time.
I think they can at least do that.
That's very sensible advice, Sarah.
I endorse it 100%.
And of course, everything you said about Bill Gates is spot on as well.
He's not a doctor.
He's not a virologist.
He's not an epidemiologist.
He's a computer guy who deliberately produced a flawed product So he can sell patches as new versions and make his money again and again and again.
For him, vaccines are a business.
He makes big bucks and the profit margin on vaccines is enormous.
It's like Coke and Pepsi.
The reason they can spend so much money is on advertising because the profit margin is so enormous.
If you take a can of Coke, It might cost a nickel to produce, but they make a buck.
They're making a huge return on their profit.
Vaccines, it's the same.
Cheap to produce, but they get a huge profit return.
And now he's bought in with the other sadists who want to dramatically diminish the world's population.
Yes, when you call him a eugenicist, what you're really saying is he's been an enthusiast for depopulation and has a lineage That goes along with that, which is hardly, in my opinion, a commendation.
It really is a red flag, a sign, a warning that this man and his ideas are not good for you and me, human beings and other living things.
Yeah, I know.
And the sad part is, is we're preaching to the choir.
So our challenge is to get to those minds that are still, that we can still get to.
You know, how do we get to them?
Because we are really faced with some pretty serious situations.
And if I'm wrong, then thank God I'm wrong.
You know, if I'm Wrong.
And this ends up being not what we think it is, then wouldn't that be a nice day?
You know?
Wouldn't that be great?
We do know there's some things that we're not wrong on in the sense that there is a force trying to take down this country and that we do have some serious threats.
But it would be nice to be wrong on the fact that the vaccine is a depopulation or has some ulterior motives to it.
That would be great to be wrong on.
And that's why I'm like, let's just wait and see.
Just give us time.
And I would think we could reach more people.
I mean, what?
100 million people in the United States have already taken this vaccine.
We still have 150 million people.
I'm not sure if they're exaggerating and saying every jab when they say, Because every vaccine takes two jabs.
So does that mean that there's really only 50 million people versus 100 million people?
I don't know if they're lying in that way and creating some illusion, but I know a lot of people who've gotten the vaccine, so they could be very easily be 100 million.
So we have about 150, 160 million people out there.
How many people are in the United States?
260 or is it 360?
360 or is it 360?
I think 330 million.
330?
330?
Okay, so we have what?
230 million people that we can still reach because 100 million people have already taken it.
230 million people just in this country and then we got people all over the world because this is something that's happening all over the world.
So we probably have two-thirds of the world population that we can still reach and tell them do not Do this.
And then they're going to claim we don't have herd immunity and you need to wear the mask longer and everything else.
So what?
So what?
We will wait this out and see what really happens.
But at least we can save more lives.
So we have two-thirds of the world's population and another 230 million people in the United States that we can still reach.
And that's our goal.
We've got to reach as many of those people as possible.
And the problem is compounded in two different ways, Sarah.
On the one hand, the techniques they're asking us to employ, such as wearing face masks, social distancing, lockdown, staying at home, not getting out, breathing fresh air, sunshine, exercise, weaken our immune system.
Indeed, that appears to be the principal consequence of taking one of the vaccines.
And it actually Changes your DNA to make you more vulnerable to future exposure to hazards in the environment that you would have been able to slough off had you not taken the vaccine.
So that's on the medical side that we're actually harming ourselves and weakening ourselves by taking a vaccine we thought, mistakenly, was going to protect us.
The other is on the political side.
Team Biden welcomed the coronavirus as God's gift to Joe Biden because it meant Trump couldn't hold his massive rallies without violating the health prescriptions.
That Biden could hide in the basement where they wanted to keep him anyway because of his cognitive deterioration and where they could then explain away the fact that he couldn't get any crowd whatsoever because they wouldn't even have him out in front of the audience and where it was calculated to undermine the robust economy Trump had created so that his greatest asset going into the election would be compromised Nevertheless, he won anyway by an enormous margin, where Sidney Powell, for example, released an election map that was authentic, because all the numbers were changed, where it was virtually a red wave from coast to coast, where Trump even took California and Minnesota, which I had been predicting 410 electoral votes before they
We did the numbers, just as you're saying, just as the CDC can reset the numbers.
This was done on these various states such as Pennsylvania, Georgia, Michigan, Wisconsin, Arizona.
It's just horrific.
And then for the United States Supreme Court to be unwilling to take the Texas case that outlawed how clearly each of the states had violated their own laws And indeed, the Constitution, which requires that the legislatures of each state determine how elections should be held and their electors selected by their own secretaries of state and their own governors, was an egregious failure of the court to the American people and the Constitution.
And it may be, Sarah, that we pay a terrible, terrible price for the failure Of that institution in particular.
We've already had the Congress betray us.
We know the mainstream media is totally controlled by agents who aren't looking out for our best interests, but to have the Supreme Court as well so compromised that it couldn't deal properly with perhaps the most important issue to ever be brought before the court was simply a disgrace and a betrayal.
The enormity of which cannot be calculated and which the consequences of which are going to endure.
Well, it's the end of our country as we know it.
If you can't, voting doesn't mean anything.
But we both have seen the whistleblower testimony now and heard it about Chief John Roberts being compromised and thoroughly compromised.
So, you know, who else is compromised in that Supreme Court?
I also want to tell you there's a Pentagon report study on The flu vaccine that if you take the flu vaccine, you're 36, something like 36%.
It's in the 30s.
I don't know if it's 32 or 36% off top of my head, more susceptible to getting COVID-19.
And that's a Pentagon study.
So that's just saying right now that, you know, these vaccines are a problem and that's coming out of the Pentagon.
So you're absolutely right.
And we do we have every Part of our government.
We got the media's compromised.
We got our Congress's compromised.
We got so many judicial systems, federal judges that are compromised.
We know that our Chief Justice in the Supreme Court is compromised.
His two children were brought in so that he could use those for blackmail and now he's compromised and they don't trust him unless they got something on him.
They all got blackmail with children on them.
He takes these poor adopted two kids that were already traumatized and they just The guy is, anybody that does that to children is, I just, I can't, you know, the ones who are born into the system and we're forced to do it when they're three and four, that makes more sense to me.
And I understand how they get, they are stuck in a system and I, my heart goes out to them and my prayers go out to them to have the courage to get out.
But somebody like John Roberts, if you do it later in life, And you're so, you care so much about those positions of power that you're going to do it later in life, then you have no business, as far as I'm concerned, I have zero sympathy for whatever happens to you later.
None.
You're gone.
You've lost all my, those people get zero, you know, support.
Now the people that were in the system from the time they were little, when they were three, you know how they did it.
They made them hurt somebody or sacrifice another human being when they're three or four.
That's how they get them into it.
And if they don't do it, they kill somebody that they love or something they love, and they do it in a more brutal form than what they had to do with the sacrifice.
And that's how they get these little ones to do it from the time that they're babies, you know, three and four.
And very few people could fight that, right?
And so they either lose their mind, and they're not strong enough to handle it.
Or they develop into these creatures that are now running our government.
But what I'm told from the people that I know from the inside, you know, Jesse Zoboder and others, that 95% of the people want out of the system and they just don't know how.
They think that God has abandoned them.
And I mean, I can completely get that.
She taught me, Jessie taught me so much about how all these people are in the system against their will and how they did it to them.
That makes sense to me.
I never understood it until she explained it.
She did say that 5% of those people, now that's just you know 5, 95% that's a guesswork because there hasn't been an official study on what percentages are like this, but 5% of the people are willing participants and love that lifestyle.
And those people are gone.
We need to get rid of them.
And then the other 95%, we need to figure out who those are.
We need to figure out who the 5% are.
We need the 95%.
And there's probably somebody there is a gray.
And I mean, that's the solution, but who's going to do it?
Right?
Who's going to do this?
We've got such a thoroughly compromised situation, and we're trying to unite.
Everybody I know who's an independent journalist is trying to unite right now, and trying to get as many people to unite.
But how are we going to do this?
We need the people.
We need the military on our side.
We need a culture.
We need our culture to change.
I mean, there's a lot of work to do, Jim.
We got a lot of work to do worldwide to change this phenomena that we're stuck in.
It's worth it, the job to... Go ahead.
You're 100% correct, and I think your advice about pausing, hesitating, waiting to see the consequences of these vaccines... I mean, it's just a shame that Americans are being bamboozled into doing something that's going to be so deleterious to their health, to their future, to their welfare.
You're doing a wonderful job of digging in, Sarah, getting your feet wet, doing the real task of an investigative journalist.
In the few minutes that remain of our conversation today, why don't you give us a summing up of your message for America?
Well, I would say that we have to keep fighting.
We have to have the courage.
We have to keep sharing the information.
Look for independent journalists.
Don't trust all the independent journalists either.
Make sure that your eyes and ears are very alert and that you are realizing that a lot of these independent people are also deceivers.
And so, but the mainstream media is for certain.
And so look for those independent sources that you can trust and and then keep your eyes and ears alert and then work hard to change our culture to something of caring and love and what's pro humanity versus Anti-humanity.
Because that's the only way we're going to do it, is to do it together.
I mean, I'm just one little drop in the bucket.
We need all of us to change this culture.
We need this culture to be one that's pro-human.
I'm here bringing as much awareness as possible, but the other part of the awareness is realizing that we can change this together.
If we get enough people.
The military needs to be alert.
The doctors need to be aware.
I mean, teachers need to be aware.
We need everybody to be aware of what it is that we're up against.
This isn't a left-right Democrat-Republican.
This is a right-wrong.
We would all unite from Democrat to Republican.
We're just Americans.
We're just citizens of the world.
We would all unite to change this if we knew the truth.
But I just really hope that people will share that documentary and if they can go to sarahwestall.com they can share the actual video the link to the video because my website might be too scary for people who haven't been exposed to a lot of these things and so if you have loved ones that we all got the loved ones who want to take the vaccine no matter what share this video with them that you know the ox the studies I have Oxford University I have the head of fight you know Pfizer One of the executives at Pfizer.
I have head of public health in Germany.
I have all these resources.
These, I got the top resources in these and sources in this documentary so that people can go look and prove for themselves that it's not bogus.
That it's accurate and it's legit.
And so maybe that can reach your loved ones.
And that's why I made it.
That it's a tool for you to help save lives.
And so please share that.
That's my spiel, Jim.
Let me add that Sarah Westall was among the 24 experts I brought together for the False Flag and Conspiracy 2020 conference on the 5th and 6th of December, the archives of which are now available to the public for free.
You can have them all for free.
Go to falseflagconspiracy2020.com.
falseflagconspiracy2020.com and check them out.
There's a lot there that will broaden your mind and deepen your understanding of what's been going on here in America and perhaps gain further insight into how we've become so vulnerable to being played by false information deliberately disseminated.
And while you're at it, Studies of mine about the coronavirus pandemic and about how the Democratic Party has built upon it to its own benefit and the threat that it poses are also available at JimTheConspiracyGuy.com.
JimTheConspiracyGuy.com.
Again, absolutely free and open to the public.
This is Jim Fetzer, your host on The Real Deal.
Thanking Sarah Westall for being here.
Listen to everything she has to say.
It makes a difference.
It's a matter of life and death.
That's not just figurative.
That's the literal truth.
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