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Dec. 16, 2020 - Jim Fetzer
01:45:25
The Fetz Presents (15 December 2020) with Ted Elden.
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I got my seatbelt on.
Ha ha ha ha ha.
That's a mammoth pile of books behind you there.
Wow.
You've read a few of those just along the way.
That's just a handful.
At the university I had 10,000 and I had to abandon 90% when we moved to Madison.
Let me get us, well we're actually already on the air.
This is Jim Fetzer, where tonight I have the pleasure on the Fetz Presents to have as my featured guest, Ted Eldon, who has an extensive background in the law, and where we have many issues to discuss that are related to the current situation here in the United States, which is incredibly messy, Ted, you know, I just received a new article from the Gateway Pundit that the AMA has just reversed its position on hydroxychloroquine.
Which we've known since at least 2005 was a miracle drug in relation to coronavirus.
That it'll not only cure it if you have it, it'll prevent it if you don't.
I took it a whole long time ago.
But the AMA, as well as Anthony Fauci, to whom I refer affectionately as Tony the Rat, Have massively attacked HGQ and the article and the pundit was suggesting it was because they wanted to harm Trump.
And I'm thinking that's certainly part of the story.
I think they're trying to destroy America, that this whole hydroxychloroquine really is intended, as David Icke pointed out almost off the bat, to take out the middle class, really to deprive Americans of having the opportunity to make any income.
So we'll be completely dependent on the state Which is then going to negotiate with us to pay off our mortgages, our credit cards, our student loans, provided we agree to surrender all of our property and assets.
And submit to a inoculation regimen, where if we do not do that, we're going to be put into a FEMA camp as an enemy of public health.
And if we continue to protest, I'm convinced our heads will be separated from our bodies.
That this is a part of the Great Reset, a key aspect of which is creating all digital currency So if we misbehave, they can cut us off.
A phenomenon well illustrated on a lesser scale in the wonderful movie Enemy of the State with Gene Hackman and Will Smith.
Do you know that film?
I just would like your opinion about what I've just sketched, because I don't think it's a fantasy.
I think it's the fact, the real situation we're in.
And they cut off hydroxychloroquine because they didn't want there to be a cheap, readily available solution to the problem.
They wanted to use it to collapse the economy of the United States.
And now we have a guy who, if he were to be inaugurated on the 20th of January, is promising further lockdowns as though the economy were not thoroughly decimated already.
This is just for an opening subject for our conversation.
Please offer any thoughts, reflections, agreement, disagreement, whatever.
Everybody has a way of thinking, and many people have college degrees.
I do myself.
But I think that generally speaking, as a society in America, and even the world, we have become overly dependent and submissive to authorities.
People get into high rank, whether it's government or scholarly or whatever,
and we're just respecting the titles and not looking at the substance of things.
But now there are many people, whether they're doctors or lawyers,
that I believe that I can find information that they won't consider
because it would jeopardize their income or their licensure.
So I think we need to get our feet down on the ground again.
And you're talking about the cures and everything.
My first argument is that I think that there's a great falseness about the magnitude
of the problem.
And people have been dying every day since time began.
And I don't know that the numbers worldwide have increased.
They've just labeling.
If I kill myself on a motorcycle, I had COVID, obviously.
Or if a house falls on me, I obviously had COVID.
So I like to get down to the foundation issues.
By the way, even today, I was watching you on your Your website, I was looking through all your materials about the moon landing and that's one of my favorite topics in the sense that to me it is all very obvious.
I studied architecture.
I was at an architectural firm for 40 years.
I served on the board of architects.
I'm a logical guy and I know material sciences and 9-11 and Sandy Hook and certainly the moon Landing hoax.
Many of these subjects are just so shouting out but you have to come to a position where you will look at the information.
People believe different than we believe because they're watching TV and they've filled their head with information and they can't take any more information and they've locked out truth.
Now I sort of backed into this in 2005 when I studied 9-11 I just had time on my hands and I looked for a hundred hours and then a thousand and then a thousand and a half.
I thought, wait a minute, government, universe, everything, it's all messed up and we're living on the surface of appearance of things.
So regarding the vaccinations and the cure and all that stuff, I think we first need to look at the severity of the real issue.
And there are many doctors, thousands and even thousands of lawyers gathered together to protest all this nonsense going on.
One of my favorite doctors is Dr. Thomas Cowan.
He wrote a book, Contagion.
You can get it for $15 online from Barnes & Noble.
He's explaining that a virus is a name of a set of symptoms.
It's not a bug or something you can see.
It's a set of symptoms.
It can be caused by 3, 4, or 5G.
It can be caused by pesticides and Preservatives that we eat or breathe or whatever.
We're just filling our body up with junk.
And when the body naturally tries to dump all this stuff, we feel feverish and we go through the winter flu, etc.
So we're so far away from just ground zero on what's going on.
We have a tendency to get into a panic.
The coming vaccination and the certification and all that stuff.
I think this is a great fear thing.
I don't know the reality.
The point that I'm making here is, I've been in a courtroom and I was quietly speaking to a judge who was shouting at me radically.
I was pretending like I was not afraid.
I think anymore if I go to a courtroom, I'm no longer afraid.
I mean, what can they do?
They can tase you, they can lock you up, they can fine you, but they can't affect your soul.
But anyway, the point is, I have learned how to essentially bluff.
A sheriff's deputy came to me and he said, put your arms behind your back.
I'm going to arrest you.
And I understand that's an offer.
And I instead raised my arms and I said, do you have a warrant?
And he said, no.
And I said, well, you can't do anything.
You can't work without a warrant.
And I don't think anybody ever told him that before.
So I'm a little West Virginia guy.
I look at life very simply.
I stand on what I know, and often it prevails.
For instance, the two-cent mail that I've sent you.
I learned an idea, and then I practiced it many, many times, and I go forth with that.
But many people want things written down.
They want an authority.
They want a government.
We're too dependent on people that are bought out and not working to our advantage.
That's our main problem right there.
Oh, Ted, you've said so many things with which I agree a hundred percent, especially that COVID is just a matter of relabeling.
They're not making the distinction between dying with COVID because virtually everyone has COVID.
I just played a program made by the president of Tanzania back in May, where he tested goats and sheep and motor oil and Almost everything was coming up with COVID.
I mean, here is a guy who's got a scientific orientation.
He knows that observation, measurement, and experiment are fundamental to science.
The whole COVID thing is just a mountainous pile of bullshit promoted by authorities that the government, the population in general, is unwilling to question or challenge.
Why I refer to him as Tony the Rat, in my opinion, this guy has done more damage to the United States than all of our foreign enemies combined.
Say, Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, Emperor Hirohito, Anthony Fauci has done more damage to the United States than all of them combined.
And everything else you're saying, I agree with too.
John Rappaport had a recent piece about the difference between with and from.
A simple, trivial ambiguity where they're trading on an elementary fallacy because of equivocation.
Because the word case can mean different things.
It can mean you had a positive result on a test that turns out to give like around 98% false positives.
Or it can mean you actually have the symptoms of this disease, which is you astutely observe, really.
are symptoms that are associated with many other sources, 3G, 4G, 5G, as you very well put it.
And, you know, it looks as though there's an awful lot of deception and deceit going on here,
and none of it is intended to benefit the American people.
On the radiation, I don't remember...
Arthur Firstberg or something, but the title is The Invisible Rainbow and Dr. Thomas Cohen refers to that.
First we had Telegraph.
Later we had City Lights.
Then we had radio, and then we had radar, and microwave, and now the various phone technologies, 3, 4, 5G.
The thing is, as we increase the electrification of the world around us, there is a small part of our population who suffers from that, getting sick or even dying.
And each magnification of the electrification of our world has brought forth more and more problems.
Now, I believe that's The primary cause of the suffering we're seeing today, but of course they want to shift our attention away from that and blame it on a bug or a virus or something else.
See, that's the whole thing is to keep people away from the primary idea.
On 9-11, I don't believe there were planes.
I don't believe there were men in planes with little knives.
on the moon landing.
Just the fundamental thing is where I diverge.
But when we get into discussions or arguments with people, they want to go to the higher realms
and deal in things that are sort of beyond our reach.
But if you go down to the foundation, you see there's no game going on here.
So- Yeah, no, I mean, you know,
I've done a huge amount of research on 9-11, founded scholars for 9-11 Truth in December of 2005.
I've been flown around the world.
I give talks about 9-11.
I've organized conference on 9-11.
You're 100% correct.
None of the alleged 9-11 aircraft actually crashed.
They faked each of the crash sites, albeit in different ways.
And in New York, it was particularly sophisticated.
But something I emphasize is if you're watching an impossibility, then you've got to know it cannot be real.
So when you have what's supposed to be flight 175 disappearing its full length into this building, and the same number of lengths it passes its whole length through air, you know that's physically absurd unless a massive 500,000 ton steel and concrete building provides no more resistance to the trajectory of an aircraft in flight than air.
And I try to drive at home!
Because, you know, the situation is just ridiculous.
We're being played again and again.
And yes, absolutely, 19 Islamic terrorists with knife cutters had nothing to do with it.
The man in the cave in Afghanistan was our man in Afghanistan.
He was actually an officer in the CIA, Colonel Tim Osman.
He was responsible for getting Stinger missiles into the hands of the Mujahideen.
They used to shoot down Soviet helicopters and planes.
He was actually visited by an official from the agency, and shortly before his death, while he was in a hospital in Dubai, he died in Afghanistan on or about 15 December 2001.
There were local obituaries.
He was buried in an unmarked grave in accordance with Muslim tradition.
By 26 December 2001, Both CNN and Fox News had reported that Osama Bin Laden was dead, but Barack Obama found it politically expedient to resuscitate him and have him try again to position himself for a triumphal re-election as the man who got the most mud and men in the world when it was all total bullshit from the beginning.
I mean, And it's just monstrous the way the American people have been played.
And I've been doing everything I can to expose these hoaxes, including publishing a whole lot of books by bringing together experts on different aspects of these cases.
JFK, 9-11, Sandy Hook, Boston bombing, you know, Orlando and Dallas, Charlottesville, Parkland, Las Vegas.
I mean, every one of those was a scam.
And it was facilitated by the same guy, Barack Obama, who nullified the Smith-Munn Act of 1948, which had precluded the use of the same techniques of disinformation and propaganda within the United States that were being used by the Smith-Munn Modernization Act of 2012, just in time to bring a Sandy Hook Which was another staged shooting.
It was a two-day FEMA exercise where they faked the kids using photographs of older kids when they were younger, where one of my research colleagues, Mona Lexis Presley, has even discerned some of the parents used photographs of themselves when they were kids to be the scenes from the mass shooting at Sandy Hook.
I mean, it's just stunning, Ted, how all this plays out.
But you see, the thing to me is we need to go down to the foundation and establish some basic truths and build from, because we're building on so many false premises.
Now, here's a problem.
Many people, when they're teaching from elementary school, high school, college, they have wrong ideas in their head, which is their foundation.
So when they roll back the things that I'm talking about to the foundation, they have a false start.
And so they can't throw out things that you and I know are false.
Because they have bad ideas in their foundation.
So that's a really hard one to crack.
And generally, people like to huddle together.
They conformity and get along with other people.
And that's just a bunch of nonsense.
The mask thing is huge.
I don't ever wear a mask, and sometimes it frightens older people, so I try to just stay away from them, not to frighten them.
But it's just a shame.
There are a lot of single people in the world.
They watch TV and radio to fill their time.
They think it's like a friendship or a partner, but they're just filling their head with junk.
I really haven't watched television since 2000.
Don't have one anymore.
Don't have any channels.
Do use a lot of stuff on the internet.
But you know, what we believe is based on the information we can get.
And you and I are sort of logical.
We can go out into the internet and sort things out.
But a lot of people just soak in.
I went to a friend's house 10 years ago and watched TV for 10 minutes.
And I turned to them.
All they conveyed to me was we were to hate one person and not another.
But I couldn't understand any of their... I couldn't understand what they were talking about on the television.
They just don't make sense.
They just get emotional.
Try to drive hate and separation among us.
Crazy world.
Well, you're 100% correct.
It may have been Mark Twain who observed that A man's better off having no beliefs than to have false beliefs, and that's what we're getting from television, which is the greatest instrument for propaganda ever designed by the hand of man.
And it's been used with such great success to demonize, for example, Donald Trump, And even hydroxychloroquine, which as I say, the AMA is just now reversing itself.
But you know, how many people could have survived?
Except we both know that actually it's just a label that hydroxychloroquine is a fraud, that if you look at the normal distribution of death, it has persisted.
Only now they're saying everybody's dying from coronavirus.
Well, people are dying because they choose to fall into the group and hide in the group, and if we individually start thinking... See, I believe that junior high and high school people can figure this out if they have access to the information, but a lot of people are afraid of the internet.
That's where I live.
I love the internet.
I get a lot of material there, and you can follow ideas, but when you're just downstream from newspapers and television, you're just not getting two views of a thing, and when you see We believe a thing of which we only have one view.
What's the alternatives?
But when we think of the alternatives or see them, we can judge them to be right, to be true right away.
But many people don't ever get to see the alternative or the other view.
That's the important thing.
I believe that people need to see information.
Now, when I go searching on the Internet, I'll find one article and it leads me to another one.
But I often do what I call a phrase search.
I'll take three or five words out of one article and put quotes on both sides.
So when I search for it, I can find other articles that have the same clue in them.
And so I can get right through all the censorship and all the junk that they try to block on the internet and find things very quickly.
I have saved, I have 8,000 books digital on my computer.
I have 400,000 files that I've collected on my computer.
Videos, articles, books, documentaries, interviews.
And I can figure things out by looking at how they fit together.
But some people who are trying to give you the answer right away, they die in a sudden death or they have, you know, the world of information is where the game is.
And we can play by looking rather than by waiting for what comes to us.
And I think that people need to do that.
They need to learn how.
You know, you're venturing out.
You get out of the conformity group.
But Ted, you're absolutely right.
But of course, you know, Google and YouTube are now imposing so much censorship.
In fact, in just the last couple of days, YouTube announced it would not allow any discussion of voter fraud, even though it's in the courts.
The evidence for it is simply overwhelming.
We've just had a forensic analysis of the Dominion machine used in one county In Michigan, and they found all kinds of disasters, adding hundreds of votes, more voters than were eligible.
You know, they had one with like 632 votes cast when there were only six eligible voters, and of the six, only three had actually cast votes.
I mean, is it something beyond belief?
And everyone now seems to think that because the electors have cast their votes, Today?
Yesterday?
That somehow Biden is therefore guaranteed to be president.
I don't think it's going to happen.
The theft is so monstrous.
But I was shocked, truly shocked, when the Supreme Court declined to take the Texas case.
Because it was so elegant, Ted, it was so elegant.
And it laid together so many big picture pieces about the four states of Pennsylvania, Georgia, Michigan, and Wisconsin.
In my judgment, the court had the obligation to take the case.
Allegedly, the dismissal means they didn't want to get involved in politics, but every decision made by the Supreme Court is political.
That's what they are.
They are non-violent, presumably rational mode of decision-making, arbitrating disputes between parties that are political, And they had an obligation to take it, and I therefore hold them in contempt that they have not, because they claim Texas didn't have standing, very parallel to 1857 when Dred Scott, an escaped slave who was in a free state, was denied standing.
And of course, that was a contributing factor for our first Civil War, as I believe this may be a contributing factor to our second.
I believe what Trump is doing is he trying to bring to consciousness the calamity around us and the great corruption and everything.
He could solve these things in one way of his own, but rather than do that and then have uprests among the people, he's trying to expose the voter fraud and the Electronic control of the votes from overseas.
He did that executive order in 2018 where he would capture and seize the assets of people, foreigners, who were involved in interfering with our elections.
So that gives him jurisdiction to travel the globe and collect all these people.
And they captured the computer servers, I believe, out of Frankfurt.
And that was quite a violent takeover too.
Yes.
But anyway, I think Trump's doing the masterful thing.
See, I think that's where Kennedy may have failed.
He's a good man with good ideas, but I don't think he had the military behind him.
And I think the military basically just brought Trump into this calamity to help us straighten things out.
But he's bringing it to the consciousness of the people so they can see the magnitude of the things that Google and the media is blocking.
I think you're spot on.
Ted, I think you're spot on.
I think that's exactly right.
Yes, Jack had antagonized the military because he hadn't invaded Cuba against their unanimous recommendation.
He'd gone ahead and signed an above-ground nuclear test ban treaty with the Soviet Union against their unanimous opposition.
And now he was going to pull all of our forces out of Vietnam by the end of 1964, which the chiefs felt was completely wrong and would weaken our resistance to the expansion of international godless communism.
It even appears that Curtis LeMay had a special new rifle, one of maybe a handful that were made that was used by one of the shooters in D. Lee Blanc.
It was inside the triple underpass and fired through the windshield, the shot that hit Jack in the throat.
What else you're saying I think is completely right, too.
The executive order of 12 September 2018 gives him the authority to seize the property and to prosecute the personnel of any foreign entity involved in manipulating our election, where Dominion is based in Canada, though interestingly there are signs that it was actually bought by China.
Cilla is in Spain, and of course the servers were in Frankfurt, Well, Special Ops Raid not only seized them, but took into custody Gina Haspel, our director of the CIA!
I mean, how bad is this?
Now, what's fascinating, too, Ted, is that it also enables him to seize the assets of any who propagandize to promote this theft of the election, which is going to include The New York Times, The Washington Post, CNN, MSNBC, and more.
So, If states in the executive order, the Director of National Intelligence is to submit a report to him about possible foreign interference in the election 45 days after, which just happens to be Friday, and would you believe some very astute individual asked Kelly McEnany about the report,
And she said, no, they have no idea what report they're talking about, which I take to be just a smokescreen because I believe this is going to change the whole equation.
Jim, there was a, I think it was a priest, but anyway.
The expression is octum's razor.
Sure.
Which means if you're trying to describe something like 9-11 or the demise of the building, whatever, the simplest thesis would prevail.
If it's compatible with the evidence, Ted.
Right, right.
I believed in that for a long time, but you're right.
The evidence or the longer period.
And so I think that much of the public would like to just accept these simple but silly and ridiculous ideas about the moon landing and 9-11, etc.
They just don't want to go into the big thing, the analysis and the reports and the science and the reasoning, you know.
So, Octum's Razor, in one way, is sort of a cop-out that people can just say, no, that couldn't have happened that way, it's too complicated, the simple way.
But, you know, there are not that many that really get into the detail.
I didn't have a plan to change my life when I looked at 9-11.
I had one email that led me to a seven-minute video about the Pentagon strike, and I just watched it and was curious.
So when I first saw that information, I knew of course it wasn't true, but I chose to investigate.
And the more that I looked, the more that I found it was true.
So you can blow things off all the time at the surface level, but the deeper that you get, the more involved you are.
I remember one of the early searches I made was I just said 9-11 World Trade Center explosives and I think I had 14 million hits and I thought what's going on here?
The deeper you get the more exciting it is until we're committed that we have to go with the truth and we have to step away from the lies.
That's right, that's right.
It was actually the Pentagon that was my first object of fascination with regard to 9-11 as well.
The complete absence of any wreckage on the Pentagon lawn, for example, that didn't show up to, well, that section of the building didn't even collapse until about 45 minutes after the alleged hit.
And you have this opening on the ground floor, and it's about 10 feet high, 16 or 17 feet wide, much too small, For a 100-ton aircraft with a wingspan of 125 feet and a tail that stands 44 feet above the ground, and you look and you look and you see, well, there's a chain-link fence, there are a couple automobiles, there are two enormous spools of cable, but there's no massive pile of aluminum debris, there's no wings, there's no bodies, there's no seats, there's no luggage, there's no tail, not even the engines!
Ted, we're recovered from the Pentagon.
I mean, how ridiculous can you get?
I think that they had a fire at that location and there was a traveling fire truck just out on practice and they came by quickly and put it out.
Well, that didn't fit the theory.
They had to get the fire going again.
So the facts are just beyond comprehension for most people.
But if you just stay with them, it all fits together.
And unlike the stories that they tell us, they just don't connect.
They don't have the facts.
They're shifting on the evidence.
Well, even Jamie McIntyre, who was the best reporter for CNN on the scene, was asked by his anchor about the plane that had hit the building.
He said, well, you know, from my close-up inspection, there's no sign of a large plane having hit anywhere near the Pentagon.
There are these very small pieces of plane, but there are no wings, no tail, no nothing that would suggest that a plane had actually hit the Pentagon.
Later, under pressure, Ted, he was forced to retract, and he said, he did it this way, he said, only a fool would deny that a plane had hit the Pentagon, meaning he'd been a fool to think he was supposed to report the truth, rather than a propaganda line, and of course he retired from the business, I think it was too much heavy water, too much for him to bear.
The man was a soul of integrity, he was very smart, very articulate, But he was too much dedicated to the truth.
Obviously had no role for him in mainstream media.
I remember his initial report as well and I've heard the recording of it many times.
Thierry Maison had a son who created a website based on Thierry's research.
He, he, he's a good guy.
He's a Frenchman, brilliant intellectual.
He maintains the Voltaire.net, Voltaire.org blog.
We actually published a piece I'd done with a guy in Buenos Aires about the bombing of the Israeli embassy, which was to be blamed on Iran.
This was punishing Argentina because they've been cooperating with Iran on the peaceful use of nuclear energy.
But it only killed a small number of people, maybe 18, whatever.
So they did it again with the Jewish Community Center, and they killed 84 to get a more spectacular effect, claiming, again, it was a car bomb.
And guess who they brought in to investigate?
Because there was no presence of any car.
An Israeli expert who said, oh, it was the blast was so powerful, it blew the car under the ground.
And he came up with one piece of the car that had a VIN number.
This is so fraudulent, it's embarrassingly bad.
Does happen to be a piece with a vendor.
When I talk with people, sometimes they have a little mantra about what happened.
It was the knives or the box cutters or the terrace, whatever.
And I just listen to what they say.
And I don't believe, even though they said it, that they're consciously thinking about what they say.
Their things are just so ridiculous.
Well, that can't happen.
That can't be.
You know, when that lunar lander supposedly set off its jet blast to land on the soft sand of the moon, and it didn't disturb anything, and then there are no tower tracks from the lander to the... There are just hundreds of...
And your video on the website there is pretty good about all that.
Excellent, excellent, excellent.
I'm real tickled that you took a look at some of that stuff.
That's excellent, Ted.
Well, there's just hundreds of things out there that are just crazy.
But people believe that we just have to fall in line with NASA and that they have powers of vision.
And I don't know what NASA is doing.
But I heard today their budget is $64 million a day.
I could live on that.
Yeah, your image is frozen, Ted, but we can hear you very clearly.
I don't know what caused that, but there are lots of reasons.
I get a certain amount of interference from the outside, you know, because they don't like... I'm committing a hate crime because I'm telling too much truth and they hate the truth, just as you are here.
And I'm very pleased, you know, your own research has led you to conclusions that are parallel to my own.
Well, the reason that we're united is because we look.
The people who don't agree with us will not look.
They just accept the surface.
And you see, the surface condition about them is superficial looking.
Applies to law and medicine and history and banking.
Everything has a superficial layer of how the world is and how things work, and most people just never penetrate it.
Now, some people used to say to me, well, there's something wrong with 9-11 and I don't want to know, but there's nothing wrong with banking or law or history.
And I say, no, once you pierce the conspiracy in one place, you can use the same logic to go to any conspiracy and unravel them.
But people don't want that on their desk.
You know, just, that's not for me.
I have a family man.
The Congress and the courts will settle that.
No, they won't!
Yes, I think it's a triumph of psychology over logic and evidence in the form of cognitive dissonance, that if you confront evidence that threatens your core belief, you suppress or deny.
Like the woman who discovered evidence her husband had been molesting their daughter, and when the truth eventually came out years later, She was at a loss to explain why she never did anything about it.
It's like most Americans want to believe the government is there to support and protect them, and the very idea that the government would become complicit in an act like 9-11.
Or JFK conspired to assassinate the duly elected President of the United States or to bring about the death of some 3,000 Americans to benefit a foreign country, to draw the United States into the Middle East, to take out I think that Ted is gonna, you know, he'll get back to me and we'll continue the conversation.
Any of you who have any questions out there in the chat room, for example, go ahead and lay on while I get Ted back.
I think he won't take long.
Let me see if I can find.
Try again.
The guy is super smart.
I'm just delighted with him.
And, uh, I mean.
I already want to have him back.
So let's hope that he comes back.
Well, I've so enjoyed our conversation to this point.
I'll be very, very disappointed if I don't get him back.
Let me see what I can do here.
If any of you have any questions really go ahead.
Thank you.
I'm gonna call him.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I want you to see how much I'm enjoying our conversation.
and I think you're terrific and I'm really pleased.
So you shouldn't, you.
Well, you just, it was just a real pleasure to discover you.
Yeah, try the same link.
It ought to work.
You can stay on the phone while you try and reestablish.
I didn't remove you.
Yeah, just send it.
I'll get you back in.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, well, you and I have arrived at similar conclusions across a wide range of subjects.
That's really terrific.
Are you getting anywhere?
Is it downloading?
I'm entering the meeting number and the passcode, but I just did this.
Ah, I think it's sabotage.
I got this guy who created this lawsuit with me, totally fabricated.
It was a slap suit, a strategic lawsuit against public participation.
See if you can use the phone number.
Isn't there even a phone number there you could use to join?
I don't really know why it's not 1798. If you could...
Well, but we're talking on the phone, but it's not going out to the audience.
There's a phone number there with the link, isn't there?
You go down the list, there's a phone number.
Yeah, yeah, try that, try that, try that.
Yeah.
Yes, they were fake heroes.
Barbara Olsen was supposed to be on Flight 77.
You know, because she was well-known, it was supposed to create a little ethos, a little sense of tragedy, somebody people knew of had been on one of the flights.
It was all completely staged.
Flight 77 wasn't even in the air at the time.
It wasn't scheduled for flight that day, just as Flight 11, North Tower, wasn't in the air that day.
And it appears that Barbara Olson actually went to Europe and had some cosmetic surgery and then came back
to the US as Lady Booth and remarried her husband Ted Olson, who of course had been the solicitor general for W
and almost certainly was complicit in the plot, as far as Todd Beamer and the whole let's roll bit,
seize the control of the plane.
It's just a ridiculous story.
But then everything about it, the deeper you get becomes worse and worse.
There's a very interesting piece about Flight 93 that was produced by Art Olivier.
Where Art is a very interesting guy.
He was actually a vice presidential candidate on, I believe, the Libertarian ticket a few elections ago.
And he's done some highly original research.
You want to check out Art Olivier on Operation Terror.
So, you know, this whole 9-11 thing, all the All the crash sites are fabricated or faked, albeit in different ways.
And in fact, I've done a previous show with With On 9-11, where I spell it all out, many over the years, but one here, right at the Conspiracy Guy.
So I'd say, you know, it's a really good idea to follow up by going to the Conspiracy Guy and checking out what I present there.
Because remember, this is a distillation of collaborative research.
What I do As my specialization is bring together groups of experts who contribute their own insights and discoveries to sort things out, which I've done again and again and again, beginning initially, of course, with JFK, where I published three books that had the effect of shattering the cover up.
Assassination Science, published in 1998, then Murder in Dealey Plaza, 2000, and The Great Zapruder Film Hoax, 2003.
Dealey Plaza, 2000, and the great Zapruder film hoax, 2003.
I think what I may have to do is to send a new link to my guest.
So there's gonna be a discontinuity here.
I'm going to sign off and then I'm going to bring him back in.
And I should be back within five minutes or so.
And I apologize for that.
But I can't see an alternative way to get him back on.
So I'm going to try it.
With your understanding, and just know that I'm, you know, I like this guy a lot, so if I can't get him back on tonight, I would plan to bring him back a week from tonight, the next Tuesday.
He's a very, very smart guy, and he's got a lot to say.
So forgive me now while I'm going to end, and then reconvene the meeting, hopefully with him, And let's just say, if I'm not back with you by the top of the hour ten minutes from now, just assume I was unsuccessful, but that I'll bring him back next Tuesday.
So I'm very sorry about all of this, but I'm going to make an effort to bring him back now, within the next ten minutes, and we'll see if I'm successful or not.
Thanks.
Stand by. Are you there?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Holy moly.
Holy moly.
I got your back already.
That's fabulous.
That's fabulous.
Well, yeah, I'm good.
We've got the telephone working.
I'm going to try to keep logging into the video, but we can talk by phone.
Okay.
Okay.
I hope you're still here there.
Everyone out there in the chat room and so forth.
I'm here already.
I should have checked before, but there he was.
There he was.
There he was.
There was Ted.
So we're going to continue now.
Ted, go ahead and give me some thoughts in response to everything we've been talking about.
Go for it.
To me, it's a thinking game, and it's not really that complicated.
But as I said in the beginning, I think we've become overly involved with accepting authorities around us, and we don't want to rock the boat and everything.
Jim, we can study.
That's one thing to do.
But another is we can test things.
And I've done a lot of things.
I didn't really know what was going to go down, but I just tested it.
I've been in courts on occasion.
I've spoken to policemen or lawyers or whatnot.
Sometimes I do a thing that I'm pretty sure is going to get me in trouble, but I don't really know because I haven't done it.
So I do something and I'm quite surprised with the results.
Now, I'm a little West Virginia kid.
And maybe you big Ivy League city people can't understand what I'm talking about, but I think that there are two ways to approach the world.
One is by research and reading and thinking, but another is by actually testing.
And I've found that many things are very different than I thought they would be, but I tested them and I found new ground.
Now, sometimes you learn a thing and when you try it, it doesn't work.
Well, that doesn't mean you should quit.
You just need to keep trying and do slight variations until you bring it home.
But to me, I learned about 9-11, you know, in a few months' time.
But to me, having looked further at money and banking and history, everything around us is in the same situation.
We are living in a sea of deceptions cast by the people who are now in power, and they hold their power by keeping us In the deceived position where we don't really know our rights, we don't know what makes us healthy, we're just confused.
And the CIA, I believe, I don't recall the director, the first director, was it Casey?
Anyway, he said in a meeting, and I have second-hand witnesses of that meeting, he said essentially, when the American public, when everything they believe is false, then we've succeeded.
And it's a ridiculous thing that they said that, but I think that basically they've achieved that.
So many things around us.
We have a false belief about how it works and our involvement with it, etc.
And we live with that belief because we don't have the courage to test things.
We have a house.
We have a family.
We have a car.
We have a job.
We're trying so desperately to cling to what we have.
We don't want to raise any rubble.
So I lost my house in a court case.
The whole thing is just ridiculous.
But because I've lost everything, don't have a car anymore, just a bicycle and such, I'm the great test dummy.
I can do things that others are afraid to try because they don't want to lose something.
They don't want to lose their job or their reputation or property or whatever.
And I glibly go forth and do all sorts of crazy stuff.
Crazy and brilliant are the same thing.
It's only labeled after the event happens and what the results are.
I do many things I thought were crazy, but when they work, I think they were sort of brilliant.
So crazy and brilliant are the same thing.
It just depends on your outcome.
Well, that's all very, very interesting, because I've been put in a similar situation where a slap suit, a strategic lawsuit against public participation to punish me for bringing together a group of experts and exposing that Sandy Hook was a hoax.
Where, by the way, we've just had the most recent observance on the 14th.
That would have been yesterday, where it was a two-day exercise on the 13th and the 14th, which were then a Thursday and a Friday of 2012.
It was a two-day FEMA drill.
We even have the manual.
So I brought together a group of experts, and we established the school had been closed by 2008.
Now, it was loaded with asbestos and other biohazards damaged by a hurricane.
There even was a major flood in the area in 2007, but there weren't any kids there.
They'd all been moved to another school, apparently at Chalk Hill in Monroe, where Wolfgang Halbig has uncovered documents showing that food that was supposed to be going to Sandy Hook Elementary was being delivered to the Shock Hill School in Monroe, and that it was all an elaborate pretense to keep the school, create the administrative facade of it being a functioning school, where actually it's very interesting when we look at this guy.
He was supposed to become the next president of the United States, Because, well, they've been using a body double since the first debate.
This is a guy very different than Joe Biden.
He's far more articulate.
He can present a short speech or a statement in a clear, articulate fashion, largely without doing a lot of verbal gaffes.
He has physical features that are different.
His skull is somewhat narrower.
His eyes are brown, whereas Biden's are blue.
Biden has a more rounded chin.
This guy has more of a cleft.
But his ear, his ear uh his right ear attaches directly to his skin and as it comes down and is continuous and smooth whereas Biden has an upward turn so he has a kind of a hanging earlobe right a pendant earlobe so it's clearly not the same guy
It seems to me, Ted, that all by itself invalidates the Democratic Party campaign in that, you know, if this were to be exposed, then of necessity the Democrats would forfeit the campaign and Trump would be elected by default.
I regard that as the simplest solution.
But I believe your depiction of what's going on here, to wit, That Trump has been allowing everyone to see the monstrousness of the deception the world in which they're living, which involves collusion and corruption and conspiracy between governors and secretaries of state and officials, government officials across a whole, you know, half a dozen or more states,
And where, you know, all of the propaganda coming out of the various networks is further encompassed by his executive order of 2018.
I really do hope he drops a hammer, Ted.
What is your assessment on the prospect?
I think you're right on these things.
I have a gut feeling that Trump is pushing forward on this warp speed vaccination, but maybe the warp speed is an entirely different program.
And I think that as he secures his position on the second term, that he will reverse his position.
I think he'll make it non-mandatory for a beginning.
I think that Trump draws his enemies in closely, like Burke and Fossey and others, so that he can watch over them.
And then at some point, he's going to fire them and change the The nature of things going on.
So I think he's a very strategic player way ahead of my intelligence to sort of lure people into a position where he can expose their great misdoings.
And he has to expose their evil.
He can't just attack them where they are.
He has to let them fail in some regard.
And I think he's done that several times before and he has more to come.
I think you're completely right.
That's my take, too.
It's pretty obvious that his own son, Barron, has suffered adverse effects from a vaccination.
I cannot believe that Donald Trump would therefore be a wholesale proponent of vaccinations when he's seen up close and personal the damage they can do In fact, I'm about to publish a new blog that goes through like a hundred different vaccines and lays out all of the damage they have wreaked.
I mean, most of the world is unaware that these vaccines do tremendous damage to their recipients.
The H1N1, for example, causes brain damage.
Gates A polio vaccine in India paralyzed 500,000 Indian girls.
We know, of course, the usual vaccines that are given to children have either heavy metals, mercury or aluminum bases that appear to be correlated with autism, so that there's a perfect statistical pattern of the increase of autism parallel with the increase of the use of these vaccines.
Whereby some projections by 2050, half of our children will be autistic.
Half of them, Ted.
Half!
It used to be like 1 in 10,000.
I mean, the numbers are rising quickly.
Yeah, the vaccination is a terrible thing.
Of course, when I came to that issue some years ago, I thought that vaccinations had a history of being useful, etc.
Louis Pasteur brought in the pharmaceutical world and a competing doctor about 1880, I think his name was Bekamp, B-E-C-H-A-M-P.
But anyway, to simplify their views of medicine, if you had a sick fish in a dirty fishbowl, Pasteur would say, vaccinate the fish, but Bekamp would say, clean the water!
And the fish will get well!
Just radically different approaches.
And then, of course, there was the Flexner Report, 1920 or so, where Flexner went around to the various teaching medical centers and he flushed out all the natural healers, would give no funds from Rockefeller, but Rockefeller funded all the The colleges that would honor the pharmaceuticals.
The oil converted into medicine.
Rockefeller took control first of the oil worldwide, then he took control of medicine.
And these things are just so terrible, but people don't have the information.
These things are not taught in school.
We're taught almost a mirror image of reality, and we can't blame our third grader teacher, our high school teacher.
They didn't know any better.
They were doing what they were told to do.
But it's rare to find people that really know the truth, and it's hard to find any people who want to listen to the truth.
Well, I'm just really impressed with the research you've done, Ted, because it seems to me You've been able to sort out some of the most complex recent events of our history, including 9-11 and, of course, this contemporary scene with the coronavirus.
What, then, is your take on the Great Reset, which basically was where we began with my sketch of what appears to be the agenda of the World Economic Forum?
The International Monetary Fund and the World Bank to essentially seize control of the entirety of planet Earth, hook, line and sinker, where no one else who's a resident on Earth actually owns any property.
We all function as serfs and slaves at the will and whim of our masters.
I mean, it's to me stunning And it's ambition and profound in its degree of corruption.
I mean, this appears to me to be an exemplification of the true meaning of the word evil.
Jim, if I hear a disturbance or something, people gathering, sirens, whatever, I often sort of go in the opposite direction because that's quicker to where the action is.
We're distracted in many ways now.
There was a writer, I think it might have been Feynman, I don't remember.
He was a mischievous kid, maybe in junior high school, and he mixed together some chemicals from the lab, and he essentially made a bomb, and he put it out by a tree and blew up a stump of a tree.
But then when the explosion went off, he ran towards the explosion because he thought that would prove his innocence.
Nobody who had caused it would go to the incident.
They'd be running away.
Anyway, I thought that was interesting logic.
But on this great reset, there is this plan that we should have digital currency or crypto money or whatever.
And some people think that it's Anonymous.
Well, a dollar bill and or a silver dollar, those are anonymous.
Pass them around to who cares who's tracking.
But you have a checkbook or a credit card or this crypto, somewhere you have to register a phone or a computer.
You have to give them a name, an address, whatever.
So I might use cryptos to buy a bicycle from Russia, and he may ship it to me physically in America.
But we may never know each other's addresses or phone numbers or whatever, but somewhere there is a record kept and somebody can get to that.
Some people put security systems around their house like little videos so they go on vacation and they can go to their phone and they can look around their house through their little cameras.
Well, if you can get into that system, so can somebody you don't want to can crash through all that and look around your house and see if you're home or not.
So there's a lot of falseness going on about what makes people secure.
But I don't like the idea of crypto at all, because again, it's somebody watching over What I would do with my money or my time or who my friends are.
I just don't think we need all the surveillance.
I'm not planning to do anything bad, but the thing is, if people get information, they can misconstrue it until it looks bad, and then we have to spend all our time and money to get out of a false accusation.
But on the reset coming, I know it's been a long time coming, and I don't know how quickly it'll happen, but even astrologically, there's a lot of stuff going on in the skies above us.
There's something very big coming, and I think it's coming soon, and I think it could be great for us, or it could be horrific against us, but our intention and our prayer somewhat affect what's coming.
I rest.
Well, do you have an idea of what it would be, and from what source it would come?
I mean, I'd like to think Donald Trump is going to drop the hammer, but I have friends and colleagues who have become cynical and skeptical because we thought something was going to happen long since, such as lock her up, which has yet to take place.
Though I do believe the circumstances now are perhaps the most auspicious Uh, of all time for him to affect a real massive draining of the swamp.
I mean, he has talked about it forever, and I cannot believe that a man of his intelligence and farsightedness, this is a very smart guy, could not have laid a trap that would be most efficacious, you know, in accomplishing that goal.
I think Trump's the real McCoy, and evidently he has a lot of people around him that have knowledge and ability as well.
I think, well certainly, he's a thousand times better than the alternative, whether it would be Biden or even Hillary.
But there is a limit to what he can do by himself, but I think he has a lot of support.
I think there's momentum coming.
I think that there's a lot of lies and deceptions around this.
I think they will be exposed.
I think that the monetary system is going to change.
I don't know how it all pan out. When I was studying the cryptos, I watched a seminar with
Edmund Griffith, who's a great guy, and for 50 years, he's been saying the same darn thing,
and he's right the whole time.
But anyway, he had a seminar about crypto, and he had a man speak for it, and then a man speak against it, and then a man speak for it and against it.
It was real interesting the way that proceeded, but one of the crypto guys suggested that many of the cryptos that we see coming to the marketplace Are sponsored by a bank.
They just changed the names of who the sponsor is.
And we don't see that it's the same game by the banks in a new outfit, in a new robe.
But I think that we're all going to be driven.
I think that even voting might have something to do with, I don't know the word, the phrasing for quantum something, quantum crypto or something.
But even our voting might be so verified.
But there's going to be something significantly happens in the financial world.
I think that Nassara is coming.
I believe that it passed in 2000 or 2001, perhaps that Clinton signed it.
I don't know how they could have kept an act of Congress silent for 20 years, but somehow they did.
But I believe that it's coming forth, and I hope soon, and that's going to wipe away income tax, forgive all debt.
It's going to have money for humanitarian purposes.
Do you know about Nasara?
Now, there's a false replica of most subjects.
There's the original, then there's a counterfeit.
There's an original and a counterfeit.
For instance, we used to have silver dollars and silver and gold coins, and now we have the Federal Reserve notes, which are a counterfeit of money.
They're actually a debt, not a positive attribute.
But I think there's another phrase that people try to steal the limelight or deflect you from really understanding Nasara.
N-A-S-A-R-A, standing for something.
But I don't remember the counterfeit one.
But are you aware of Nasera, and do you expect it soon?
I'd like to hear you elaborate on this, Ted.
That would be welcome.
Well, let me back up.
1980s.
There's a fellow, James Rink, who explains this both in video and text.
Horizon.
Something about Horizon.
If people were to email me.
By the way, my email's simple, a like apple at abodia.
Abodia is the word body with an I.
A at abodia, A-B-O-D-I-A dot com.
And my website is abodia.com with thousands of links.
But anyway, there was a guy, Schlesinger I believe, who came back from military service
and perhaps his family or other families in the Midwest area were losing their farms to the bankers.
See, the bankers would loan them money and have all these conditions
and they couldn't meet the payment.
Then they'd foreclose on the farms, et cetera.
So the Midwest, which was once thousands of individual farmers, is broken down more and more
to be single ownership of large corporate farms.
And they don't treat the food in the same manner that the smaller farms did.
But anyway, he followed this in court and of course he probably lost many times.
But eventually, they brought it forth in 2000 or 2001 and they established the NACERA,
which was the release of the forgiveness of all debts, the abolishment of income tax and some other plan instead,
and some other factors.
Now, they passed this act, I don't remember if it was 2000 or 2001, but I...
I cannot understand how they passed it, and yet the Supreme Court or somebody silenced it so they can't bring it to the public.
Now, they were going to announce it on the 9th of September 2001, but that's when the buildings were destroyed and the whole world went into a panic, so that delayed it.
But I think that for all these many years, nearly 20 years so far, Nacera has been in place, but they've never brought it forth.
And I think that something that Trump did, like on November 5th of the election, might have been the trigger that starts the 120-day countdown, four months, so that on March the 4th or 5th, they may announce Nacera and bring forth all of its attributes.
Jim, anything that I say is sort of, well, I don't remember all the details so well, but you've got to go down to the foundation.
Now, many would say that Nasser is non-sex, etc.
But if you can find James Rink, Change on the Horizon, either YouTube or as a text file on the Internet, or contact me and I'll give you the information.
But he explains all this in great detail.
Just these things are incredible, all the things that they bring together.
but Change on the Horizon is talking about what's happening.
And we see this on a daily basis, how corporations are going out of business
and how corporate officers, CEOs are fleeing their businesses and such.
The changes are coming on very fast now.
And I think in the end, it's all going to be good.
See, I didn't believe in taking the stimulus package.
Many people did.
But I think that that's sort of tying you into an old system.
And if we just stand free, we get a better deal in the future.
But the bankers would like... See, the bankers own the world, essentially, through liens and paperwork, etc.
I don't understand money all that well, but I have this idea that A dollar bill or a hundred dollar bill has a value because maybe I'm paying off a student loan or I have a mortgage or whatnot.
As long as there's debt out there and people are paying into it, the monetary system exists.
But if all the debts were paid, then a dollar bill wouldn't have any value.
There's nothing behind it, nobody paying into it.
So the bottom line is I think that if you computed The value of all the houses and all the cars and all the businesses in the world, you would find that there is greater debt than there are physical attributes.
So that system just has to implode, and I think it's coming soon.
I think a lot of things are going to fail.
The money's just going to evaporate.
Heavy time's coming.
And I think we see that astrologically in the heavens.
People that know how to read the stars, the conjunctions of Saturn and Jupiter.
Big stuff happening and soon.
I don't know what, but soon.
Well, Tana, it was U.S.
Congress that passed this forgiveness of debt business?
I mean, you know, That's hard to imagine, given how many congressmen and senators are under the control of the very interests that would be compromised by such a transformation.
Now, I do understand Trump seems to have folded the Fed into the Treasury Department.
He seems to have exercised or executed the National Security Action Memorandum 57 that John F. Kennedy didn't live to activate, that Took away the CIA's operational capacity and reverted it to an intelligence gathering organization.
He appears to have done that.
These are very deft moves that could only be carried out by someone with an absolute starling intellect and a backbone of steel.
Yeah, I think Trump has done some miraculous things.
I don't pretend that I understand what they're all about, but I think he's brilliant to figure out how to do these things.
I think that he traveled to foreign nations and he essentially got Approval or consent for him to act for the world on a worldwide scale.
Saudi Arabia.
I don't remember the several nations he went to.
Well, we went to Korea and we didn't go to war.
There hasn't been a war.
The United States has not been four years without war in their 250 year history.
This is unprecedented.
Yes, yes, yes.
And the guy deserves the credit.
And it's amazing how the Democrats have become the party of war, and the globalists.
They want to, you know, create the North American Union, and they want to get rid of borders, and they want to bring in mass numbers of immigrants who are going to transform the nation just so they can maintain political power.
Ted, it's just disgusting, their idea of packing the Supreme Court, of making the District of Columbia and Puerto Rico states, So they can gain more senators that they presume for good reason will be Democrats.
Biden's already talking about executive orders.
I am 100% opposed to that.
I believe most Americans, certainly most Americans who value the Second Amendment, are not going to take that line down.
I mean, he could do things that all by themselves could initiate a violent reaction from patriots who care about the future of this nation.
As he, it's manifest, does not.
I mean, this isn't even the real Joe Biden.
This is a body double.
I mean, give me a break.
Jim, you mentioned the North American Union.
I haven't studied that for a number of years, but I do remember when I did study it, coming out of Mexico would be a highway, and it comes midway into our country, and then it divides into two, and both of those go north to Canada.
The plan on this was to have this highway Fenced in and everything, so you could enter it at the Mexican border and you could go all the way to Canada and you would basically never be in American soil.
You're just on this private... Trucks without proper licensure, without proper protection could travel on it.
It would be a breach in just the land motion around in our country.
Anyway, many would say that this is a ridiculous idea, but I've seen them buying the land.
I've seen this thing coming to be.
Rand, I can't think of the full name, but Rand was a think group and they did a lot of underground tunnels and such.
Some people like Xerox and others build underground facilities and I think that our U.S.
government has built underground air force facilities and just all sorts of things going on underground.
These things were originally shown in public media but then they grow silent on them and there's no more reporting.
To me this is similar to the idea If a tree falls down in the forest, certainly there's sound, but there's nobody that hears it.
Now, in our country, there can be huge things going on, but if the media doesn't mention it, people just think, well, there's nothing going on there.
But there are huge things going on.
I got an interest in Area 51 years ago, and I studied it a bit.
I have a cousin who's a Brigadier General in the Air Force, retired.
But I believe that I might have seen things that he hasn't seen.
How did I see the year changes of the advancements on the surface at Area 51?
Well, I found a website that had Russian photographs of that site developing.
But anyway, the information is out there if you just stay with it.
The Black Vault, I think, is a guy who might have... He started as a teenager writing letters for your request.
I think he might have 10,000 files on his website.
But it's funny to me...
When I was young, it never occurred to me that I would know deep and complicated things.
I thought I would just know the things of my interest.
But if you just follow ideas and you use the Internet, which can bring you law cases and reports and whistleblowers, the Internet is not all information, but it certainly makes it easy and quick and inexpensive to get a lot of information.
And I think it's just fun to follow things around on the Internet.
Here's the simplest statement I make about myself.
I've looked at many things that I knew could not possibly be true, but I was curious why somebody would say them, like Tex Mars.
I remember somebody saying his stuff is not backed up, there's no authority or no evidence.
But I investigated Tex Mars, and he does have a lot of evidence, and he proved many things to me that I wouldn't have imagined were true.
But most people don't spend time and energy to pursue something they know is wrong or void or not there.
You know, you and I will look under every little rock and stone until we find things that other people just can't see.
And then when you start putting them all together, you get a whole picture.
Anyway, I think the thinking game is a lot of fun, but I really think that even teenagers could do what we do if they were motivated and they realized that we are a part of it all and we need to understand these things rather than just letting other people manage them.
That's pretty fascinating stuff.
I've just had a warning for all Patriots.
Let me share it with you.
Please echo this advisory to all Patriots.
Make sure you and your family have an adequate 10-day supply of food and bottled water.
You may also want to purchase an old-school CB radio for communication purposes while you can still get one.
At some time, between December 18th and 24th, President Trump will tactically implement the sanctions from his 2018 Executive Order on Voter Interference.
This will freeze the money and assets of people and entities to include Facebook, Twitter, the Fake News Corporation, and Chinese U.S.
financial accounts, also why we have prepared our land and sea borders against invasion.
Be prepared to assist the National Guard in the military commands in defense of our nation.
Make sure that you have your weapons at the ready, but do not interfere with the operations of the military.
During this time, local law enforcement will have no authority, so assemble small patriot teams to patrol and secure your own and surrounding neighborhoods.
Now, someone might think that's crackpot, but I'm telling you, Ted, I think that's probably spot on.
I think so.
Yeah.
I mean, and it's consistent with what we've been saying.
You know about the executive order, which gives him this authority, and I mean, look how look out of the public.
Has seen all this corruption.
I mean, it's so massive.
It's so extensive.
It involves, you know, the leaders of many states and secretaries of state, their election officials, their governors, Nancy Pelosi.
And of course, Chuck Schumer and all of these Democrats who were involved in this elaborate scheme to steal our election.
I mean, this is pretty damn fascinating stuff going on here.
Most Americans wouldn't believe it, but I think many, many more are having their eyes open and their minds ajar because of the massiveness of the corruption surrounding us.
Yeah, it's huge.
Jim, another way that I back up, My view of the world is I think that when you boil it all down, well, first of all, it gets down to your relationship with God or Yahweh and, you know, caring about other people.
But in another perspective, it gets down to responsibility.
Now, in my old world, I thought there were three forces around us.
There's the courts and, what are the three forces?
The courts and the police, perhaps, and I can't remember the third one.
Well, it wouldn't have to be the military.
Oh no, here it is.
It's the media, the universities, and the government.
We thought that these people were out there defending us, and they're not.
That's the problem.
But you see, most people think they've got their job, and their root, and their family, and their house.
They don't see that they have anything to do with the world outside of them.
They believe that the media, the government, And the universities are going to solve our problems, but those people have all been bought out.
They're not looking at our problems.
See, the legislature is not acting on the problems because the media hasn't told us that we have a problem.
So you see, we're in this great void where everybody's just denying what exists, and that's a problem.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, I agree, Ted.
I do agree.
I do agree completely.
Well, I think you and I, you know, really have come to very similar conclusions about what's swirling around us.
Absolutely stunning stuff.
And even what the near future may hold.
I most certainly do believe that Donald Trump will continue to be the President of the United States and not this You know, Miscreant, who isn't even the guy who is a senator and served as vice president of Barack Obama.
So that, you know, Obama and Hillary and Michelle, who's actually, as I've explained many times after doing rather thorough research on this, is actually a man with breast implants and a huge shaving bill.
You know, all these people, I think, will be caught up in this massive net.
It's utterly fascinating what may be taking place here in relatively short order, my friend.
Yeah, I think the time is near and we need to be ready.
I shut my computer off and brought it back up again to see if it might do any good.
But it still says the host removed you from the meeting.
No big deal, but I'm just telling you what the message is.
Yeah, I of course did not do that.
I mean, I was so enjoying our conversation.
I'm glad you were able to come back on the radio.
And let's reiterate how people can reach you at t-a-b-o-d-i-a, t-a-b-o-d-i-a.com, t-a-b-o-d-i-a.com.
Do you have a blog or anything like that, Ted?
I certainly have a hundred and maybe even a thousand links on my website to things on the website and things otherwise.
But if people will communicate with me directly, I can guide them on how they can best use my website.
But I have a lot of other things beyond my website.
Sometimes I mail out to people.
And you've experienced that I've mailed to you for pennies, which I've done thousands of times.
I've studied the law.
I got both the FBI told me to stop.
The regional postmaster told me to stop.
And I got a letter from Washington, D.C.
once that told me to stop doing low postage mail.
But in each of those occasions, I said, I am outside of your jurisdiction and I've never heard anything further from them.
What I'm illustrating here is that you have to cut the mustard.
You need to have a standing and truth as best you can.
You need to stand and not be scared away because government or police or courts, they threaten you, but sometimes they really don't have the ability to act.
But you would never know that unless you stand.
So I've found that the world is not at all the way it perceives to be, but it's also a reflection of yourself.
So whatever your issue is, if you know it well and you stand, sometimes your adversary will just lay down their guns and go away, which is really fun.
I remember when I was in my house once, two big burly FBI guys, they could be football players, they probably were carrying a gun of a sort, I don't remember, They came to my house and they were holding letters, one letter that the postman was returning to me.
They said, you can't mail for two cents.
And I said, the postman is returning the letter because the one I wrote to no longer lives there.
There's no complaint on the rate that I paid.
And then I said to these big burly guys, you have to leave my property, they were in my front yard, because you have no jurisdiction here.
And of course they just turned around and walked away.
And of course they're muttering, we'll be back with a warrant.
No, they're not.
They just like to keep you spooked.
But you see, a lot of people can't cut the mustard and they can't keep a straight face when they're up against forces.
I've been in a courtroom where people are yelling and screaming.
And my point is, you need to maintain a semblance of civility.
It's okay if you're very frightened, but don't show it to anybody because that's what they're playing on.
When the judge and the people against you see that you're no longer frightened, their game is done.
They can't apply any force if you're not afraid.
Yes, yes, yes.
Well, Ted, this has been a really enjoyable experience for me having you on.
I'm extremely pleased about it.
Sorry about the interruption.
I actually was able to continue taping the whole time.
Jim, I've been reading your work for many years, decades in fact, and it never occurred to me that I would ever meet you.
I remember that Scholars for 9-11.
I think I got involved in that right away.
I got in about February of 05, and you started that in the fall.
It would have been February of 06.
Yeah, but anyway, when I was aware of it, I signed up right away.
Yeah, we're looking for people There are millions of people in the world, but we need a few people to connect with each other, to have strength, to do what we need to do.
I do a conference call myself once a week, and I bring people from all over the country together.
The first thing you need is somebody to sort of support you.
There's a lady has a channel or a website, amazingpolly.net, P-O-L-L-Y.
Yes, I know Amazing Polly, yes.
And she has many really excellent videos, like she explains how the Gates money has circumvented the world and it's tied everybody together.
So that's a huge thing to stop that movement on the vaccinations.
But she had a recent one about why people conform.
Now at my website, I have a link directly to that.
But there was a group of people, actors, who were in a doctor's office and they were waiting to go see the doctor one at a time when their names were called.
But every 10 minutes there, a bell would ring, and everybody would stand up for 10 seconds and sit down.
So the new person, who was not an actor, came into that environment, and after a while, she began to copy that action.
So later, after all those people who were actors had been called out to go visit the doctor, she taught that situation, you hear the bell ring, you stand up, to the next person coming in.
So, it's just amazing how people conform.
Now, here was the most interesting one.
It was a setting like Woodstock, people outdoors in the grassy area, probably music playing.
Well, one guy got up and danced very excitedly, and of course everybody thought he was a nut dancing alone.
But then somebody came and danced with him, and that made it legitimate that he was dancing.
Then a whole bunch of people stood up and went down and danced with him.
But what Bollie said I thought was brilliant, I never would have thought of this.
She said the followers didn't go down because of the leader, They went down to follow the first man who danced with the leader.
So they weren't following the leader, they were following the followers!
Anyway, what a concept!
But that's how we are, us little sheep-like people.
We look for somebody that seems to know what's going on, and then we get behind them.
And this problem is in everything.
It's in religion, It's in our education.
Everywhere about us, many of us are just sheep, and we just do what others do as if there was some reason, logic, or benefit to it.
Well, Ted, I watched that.
I thought even more impressive was The case where the girl was sitting in the office and everyone, you know, would just stand up when a little sound went off and then they'd sit back down and then they'd stand up when a little sound went off and she wound up standing up when the little sound went off.
And then when all of them had left, she was just remaining.
And she continued to stand up when the little sound went off.
And when new people came in, they started to cooperate with her.
But even more stunning than that was the experiment involving Lines of different lengths.
So you had a comparison line on the left or on the right, and three other lines, and you were supposed to determine which was of the same length.
And the other persons were picking out a line that was obviously not of the same length, and he eventually was induced to agree with them about something that was blatantly false.
I mean, it was just stunning!
Stunning!
And then there was that Sanford experiment, they did it at Princeton and Stanford, where people were hired to be like a prison guard and to torture their subject until they gave the right answer.
That has a name, I can't remember of it, but it's just incredible when you look at the psychology of people, the way that they act, etc.
Now, Jim, here's the joke, I myself am doing many irrational things also, But I haven't figured them out yet, or people haven't told me, but I hope that I change quickly when I discover the absurdities in myself.
I once heard this at a lecture I thought was great.
They had pigeons in little cages, and they just observed them.
And maybe after half an hour, one pigeon was jumping up and down on one leg, and in the next cage, a pigeon kept picking under his wing, etc.
So what they surmised was, each pigeon they dropped like a little pellet of food, like every 15 or 20 minutes, and maybe when the pellet of food dropped, the pigeon was on one leg, and he thought standing on one leg would cause it to happen, so he kept jumping up and down on one leg.
Now when that guy was done with the lecture, he asked us, what are the behaviors that we are now doing that are divorced from or not effective against the cause
that we want. We're just sort of doing it habitually without it. So the thing when I tell people
about these ideas, I say I am equally at fault. I just haven't yet discovered things that
I'm doing that are senseless. But I hope when I do see them that I'll change.
Ted, you're a very wise man and I've enjoyed this conversation immensely.
Is there anything you'd like to add before we part?
I'd like to have you come back on other of my shows.
I think you have a lot to contribute.
Jim, I was actually frightened to come on your show because I don't consider myself great in detail and memory.
I'm more of a principles and overview of things.
But I do try to guide people to my website where I post all sorts of things.
I just try to... I bring the information out of the vast world around us, and I try to focus it and present it where other people can manage it.
And I also know that you can't go into deep waters until you've first waded through the shallow waters.
So I really like to draw people into my website, but as you've given out my email, t, like the letter, t, like Ted, or truth, t at abodia, A-B-O-D-I-A dot com, or my website, assemblyabodia.com.
I do a conference call weekly, as you do, and I try to connect people to each other.
People call me about law, and I show them other people interested in law.
People call about health, et cetera.
I just try to connect people together.
The way I see the world, well initially, at first I discovered all this stuff, and then I got a bunch of books to back me up, but people generally are not interested in these subjects.
But I try to connect people together because many of us, People who figured out that the world is in great confusion, they don't know who to talk to.
If they talk to anybody in their neighborhood, family or friends, they just shoot them down and they want to stay away from them.
They ostracize them.
So I just try to bring people together that they can talk to each other and see that there are real events going on.
And I'm way past my own intelligence and ability because now I'm in, I must get 50 emails a day, people showing me all sorts of things.
They bring me information because they don't know how to radiate the information as I do.
I bring it in, I put it in my group calls, I put it on my website, I broadcast the things that I think are important.
And the things are happening so quick these days, all this stuff about the voter fraud, and they're just huge things going on.
I understand there might have been 50,000 Chinese troops up in New England, that there was some conflict with them.
They're just huge things going on, and most people pretend they're not happening because they watch the TV.
What a killer the TV is!
It could have been our best method of education, but in fact it's just...
Run us into the ground, the TV and the propaganda on it, and even people that watch silly little soap operas.
They're loaded up with little subtleties, almost subliminal, that get you to think we did go to the moon and we can go to Mars.
I mean, everything around us is just loaded up with all this junk, and we have to think clearly and step away from it.
But it's fun in the end, but it's frightening in the beginning.
Ted, I think you're a terrific guy.
Super smart.
I like the way you utilize the internet for research, as do I. You seem to have figured out some very clever ways to get around censorship by taking a key phrase or clause of what you're investigating, putting it in quotes, and then having an internet search that will Sweep right through, cut right through all the censorship and get you to the sources you need to compare ideas and research and evidence.
I like that tremendously.
I sure enjoyed this.
I want to thank you for being my guest tonight.
Jim, I remember when I, see, I cut my teeth.
I learned how to do this stuff on 9-11, but once you learn how to do it, you can do it on any subject.
Cancer, disease, history, law, education, all sorts of things.
But when I started, I think this is really interesting.
When I started, I read a lot of things I didn't think were true.
But I didn't just throw them away.
I kept the link or I kept an article or whatever.
And so after a while, I sort of look out over my table and I see a hundred elements that all fit together, all make sense, etc.
But they're counter or opposite what the public believes.
You just sort of overwhelm yourself if you start looking.
But, you know, many people are waiting for the news to come to them or on the radio or TV.
That's a losing battle.
I was fortunate to turn my TV off in 2000, 2001, and I've just learned how to think outside of that.
And unfortunately, the TV, books, and movies are just so many things that are controlled by, I believe, the Illuminati still exist.
They have their secret societies where they're working through, and they're doing all sorts of evil all over the place.
Rituals, and drinking blood, and just things that you can't imagine are ongoing.
There's another guy, Marty Leeds, he did the litmus test on the flat earth, and he did something about Pizzagate.
There's just huge things going on.
And occasionally these things occur in the mainstream, but quickly they're covered up.
On the Oklahoma City bombing, the FBI people that were in that building normally, they didn't go to work that day.
Their children weren't in the building.
They discovered other bombs inside the building.
The, um, Pat, uh, what is his name?
Benjamin, uh, Benjamin, somebody's a retired Air Force guy.
He explained a lot about the explosives.
Not Fulford?
No, Ben starts with a P, I think.
The expert on Oklahoma City, Ben Parton.
Right, and he discovered that the bomb could not have been in a truck, you know, and that's too far away to cause damage to the reinforced concrete columns.
And the pattern of the damage was sort of like a linear rather than concentric circles. So they just lay out obvious stuff. Now
I know some people who can't look at obvious stuff and get it. I don't know what's
going on there, but some people just can't look at obvious stuff and understand
it. I don't know how that works, but I mean you know maybe they can cook great
or maybe they're a great painter.
I don't know what their abilities are, but it always amazes me when you put something obvious in front of people, and they just can't see it!
That drives me crazy!
Yes, yes, yes.
Ted, this has just been joyful.
I so have enjoyed it.
I want to have you back on one venue or another.
We'll do it again.
I cannot thank you enough.
Real pleasure for you to take the time to join me tonight.
And I just want to say this is Jim Fetzer on The Fetz Presents thanking my special guest Ted Eldon for being here and sharing his thoughts and reflections.
A guy who has dispensed with the television and newspapers and propaganda to do his research through the internet and seems to me to be better informed than 99% of all Americans who, of course, Suffer from the problem that they are bombarded by so much false information.
Incidentally, Ted, you mentioned you knew persons secondhand.
Well, I actually know someone who was there when Ed Casey, who was Reagan's appointee to head the CIA, not the first director, but Reagan's appointee, who did indeed declare that our disinformation campaign will be a success when everything the American people believe is false.
She was there and heard him say it.
She was a first-hand witness.
Someone I know who's also incidentally done a lot of research on 9-11, Barbara Honiger by name.
So she's a very interesting person, was a journalist.
We have some differences about the Pentagon, where she spent a great deal of work.
But on the other hand, she certainly is doing a better job of seeking to expose the truth than an awful lot of those associated with, for example, organizations like Architects and Engineers for 9-11 Truth, where a good friend of mine has had encounters with a couple of members of the organization who are trying to convince everyone that a plane actually had hit the Pentagon Well, one of my colleagues, Scott Bennett, who's a former Army Intel and PsyOps officer, actually drove past the Pentagon the following day and he observed the blue tarp and said it was very obvious that no plane had hit the Pentagon.
Well, these members of architects and engineers are trying to do everything they can to persuade others a plane really did hit the Pentagon.
It's overwhelmingly obvious, and anyone who wants to follow it up, go to JimTheConspiracyGuy.com and check out my piece there on 9-11.
You can find others at 153news.net and also on BitChute.
9-11, Who is Responsible and Why?
was an interview I did with Brian Ruh, R-U-H-E.
That's pretty thorough going, but my most recent is already listed there on the Conspiracy Guide.
Ted, I want to thank you again for coming on tonight.
A real pleasure.
Jim, I know that Architects and Engineering Group, in fact I am an architect, and initially I signed up and I worked with them, but I found Relatively early, that they're misguiding people, and that's a tragedy.
They act like they know what they're doing, and they're actually trying to take you away from the truth.
There are a lot of quotes out there that sort of sum everything up.
There was one by J. Edgar Hoover that said, this is not an exact quote, this is the idea.
He said, when the layman on the street encounters the enormity of the conspiracies around him, he just can't believe it, and he continues.
And Churchill said something about, you know, every now and then we stumble upon the truth, but we jump up and dust ourselves off and pretend nothing happened.
And Mark Twain and Rogers, Will Rogers, they said these two quotes, I don't remember which is which.
One of which is, it's much harder to convince a person they have been fooled than to fool them in the first place.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And vis-a-vis the failure of the Supreme Court to take the action of hearing the Texas case, I would add, John F. Kennedy observed that those who oppose peaceful reform, who make peaceful reform impossible, make violent revolution inevitable.
I'm very concerned we're on that path.
Well, I think that there's some things that are just obvious on what's going on, but people fall under their spell because they have authority or money or they have a presentation The truth is just not something that runs in our nature.
It's sort of elusive.
And I can see that from 20 till 60 years old, I was just along with whatever was going on around me.
I thought that there were some errors in the public world, but it didn't occur to me.
Things were opposite of what we were learning, perceiving, seeing.
Ted, it's been wonderful.
I reiterate.
Anyone who wants to correspond with you, your email address is just the letter T, the lowercase letter T, at abodia, A-M-E-O-D-I-A dot com.
Your website is abodia.com.
Ted, you're a terrific guy.
I thank you for sharing this evening with me.
Well, it's been fun, Jim.
You are a core element of how I think the way I do today, because I encountered you right away when I was looking at 9-11.
And you gave me encouragement to think these wild and crazy thoughts.
I mean, you can't do this stuff all alone.
You know, you can see the whole world is black and dark and evil, but you just can't live with that.
You need to find other people who can Look through your eyes, and that's what I do when I get a group together on my conference calls.
I used to have groups here in Charleston that gathered, but I can't get people that are very deeply thinking here in this area.
But by doing it by Zoom or telephone or Skype or whatnot, you can bring in all sorts of people from all over.
I have a guy from Switzerland.
And people from all over the country.
It's interesting.
Ideas can bring us together, and it's a lot of fun.
Well, let me mention, since you say Zoom, I just conducted a virtual conference on the 5th and the 6th of December on false flags and conspiracies 2020.
I intend to make it an annual event.
And the archives Well, I have two dozen speakers have just become available.
If you go to falseflagconspiracies2020.com, I repeat, falseflagconspiracies2020.com, on the upper right-hand corner, you'll see where you can access the archives and you can pick and choose Among the various, there actually are 26 there, because there's the additional presentation of one that didn't make it live, and then there's the opportunity to purchase the whole archive, and you can pick and choose for five dollars for the individual presentations.
If you're only interested in a few, that'll work, but I've made it available at half price.
Originally, it was $100 for the whole weekend, but I've cut it to $50.
And you can access the whole archive, all of the presentation for $50.
And I would add, half of that $25 is going to my legal defense fund.
So I'll be very grateful to anyone who decides to pick up and pursue it.
And I always felt good about giving something back.
For anyone who is willing to support me in my fight for the First Amendment, where I never quite completed the story of the lawsuit brought against me, the slap suit, Tad, that resulted in a finding for publishing four sentences about A death certificate.
I was found to have committed a defamation.
A jury trial issued a punishment of $450,000.
And then because I believe the man who'd come and given a video deposition under the name of one of the proposed fathers from Sandy Hook wasn't the same guy, because he appeared to be 20 years younger and 100 pounds lighter, Because I sought to pursue that.
The judge held me in contempt when I was seeking to locate an impeachment witness by sharing the deposition which had visual images.
I mean, get this.
Here's a guy whose image has appeared millions of times all over the world, but he was upset about sharing his visual image for this defamation.
This deposition where I pointed out to the judge that that makes no sense at all unless he's not the same guy.
And the judge found me in contempt and added the lawyer's fees another $650,000!
So I've been found, you know, $1.1 million for trying to get out the truth about Sandy Hook.
I expect to have both of these judgments overturned.
I have a very, very good appellate attorney.
Which if I had only had him during the initial hearing, which was conducted as a summary judgment, where I was simply representing myself and didn't understand all the sticky wickets involved there, I'd do much better now.
I don't believe it would have ever resulted in a finding against me in the first place.
But it's he to whom I owe You know, what remains of my legal tab, which has got to be around $40,000 at this point in time.
I've been able to pay off over $30,000 of it with help from friends and other sources, but you know, there it is.
So anyone who's interested, go to falseflagconspiracies2020.com.
Check out the archives.
I've made it available so you can get the whole archive for $50 cut rate.
And 25 of that will go to my legal defense fund.
Ted, thanks again for joining me tonight.
It's been a real pleasure.
Yeah, Jim, thank you very much for all you're doing and for leading many of us into the world of truth.
Oh, that's just sensational, Ted.
I appreciate you saying that.
Thank you so much.
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