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The Fetz Presents (17 November 2020): Gary King and the Search for 100% Truthers

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	This is Jim Fetzer on the Fetz Presents with a dear friend of longstanding, who my regard
	is one of the few persons I know in this life who has a pure heart.
	He is a 100% good man of great integrity.
	His name is Gary King.
	Gary, I'm just delighted to have you on the show tonight.
	Yeah, Jim, we've come a long, long way in this search for truth, and we're still at it.
	And boy, at the moment, we've got things ramped up like never before.
	Well, you'll find it interesting that in announcing the show, I said the Fets presents Gary King and the Search for 100% Truthers.
	Well, that's kind of where we started at, Jim.
	When you had your conference in Santa Barbara, we met for the first time, and you said that you really liked the idea that I only associate with 100% truthers.
	And that means we don't have very many friends.
	Let me move this camera so I can kind of see you at the same time.
	Sure, just put it on gallery.
	Just put it on gallery, Gary.
	Don't you have it on gallery?
	I got it on gallery, so we're side by side.
	Yeah, that's what I got, but I want to, I'm not, I can't see you while I'm looking at the camera, so now I can.
	So I'm sipping on my coffee, but yeah, Jim, when we come to discover that as far as JFK goes, There's more people sent in to muck up the water than there are people that are really, honestly, trying to find out just what the hell happened.
	And we've come across many, many people, and for a long time, were 100% truthers.
	But for some reason or another, they seem to fall off the wagon one at a time.
	And we're down to just a few.
	I mean, I had to name Too many names on people that have done really good work with us.
	And then, you know, so I guess we have to just take a look in every direction of how we're being deceived in so many ways.
	We were talking about the election here.
	And in my mind, there's so much at stake.
	And I'm not going to even say If Trump or Biden wins, what is at real stake here is the integrity of what we were told growing up as children that we had an election process.
	And either we're going to find out what we have.
	We do have an election process, or we don't have a Department of Justice, from my observation.
	Now, they've got these bastards caught Red-handed, okay?
	I mean, it takes a crook to catch a crook, and look, let's not kid ourselves, the Republicans are not virgins, okay?
	Now, and Trump, he just seemed to think a couple of steps ahead, and he caught these people, I mean, absolutely red-handed, and had them in every way.
	I mean, even, look, I'm no Rudy Giuliani fan, You know, with 9-11, he's up to his eyeballs in it.
	But at the moment, he's got the goods on these people.
	Now, what's reminding me of 9-11 is that once 9-11 happened, there was only one narrative.
	And you had to follow that narrative, regardless of how true or not it was.
	And here we are, 2020, and there is a narrative.
	And you read the narrative, And that's it.
	And the narrative is that Joe Biden is the president.
	And there's just no two ways about it.
	Yeah, go ahead.
	Let me back up a few paces.
	We met in 2013 in Santa Barbara, as you observed, on the 50th observance of the assassination of JFK, where I'd organized a conference.
	And you guys came up and introduced yourselves.
	And I was impressed from the beginning because you seemed so sincere and intense about distinguishing between those who were truly seeking the truth and those who were not.
	And that resonated with me because I have, in the course of my research, outed Maybe a dozen different groups and individuals, some of whom very prominent in the JFK research community, including Robert Grodin, Josiah Thompson.
	I've even, you know, in many groups, lesser figures, Jefferson, Moore, Lee, you know, I mean.
	OPA.
	You know, there's a conference that has the Eugenio Blackhawk gang over there.
	I mean, I can honestly tell you, there's hardly any, there's no 100% truth in there that I'm aware of.
	I'm really not.
	Every now and then you might get a good speaker in there, like Ed Haslam or something like that, but.
	Well, and what a weird thing when you mentioned DiEugenio.
	He would launch an attack on me, not just on JFK, but on everything I've done about 9-11, Sandy Hook, the Boston bombing, the Holocaust.
	Subject where he knows nothing, Gary.
	And in relation to his two-part study published in, what was it called?
	The name of his journal at the time, which he's now changed to Kennedy's and King.
	Just give me a second.
	It was a perfect illustration of how easy it can be to lie and how complicated it can be to explain that something is a deliberate falsehood.
	Because as you know, we did, I did, a seven hour response to his two hour attack where I went through all the evidence I'd produced over all the years on all these various subjects To rebut what he had to say, actually to refute it, because the evidence really was conclusive in establishing that the claims he was making about me had no merit.
	And you know, I sent it to him, Gary, and he replied he watched like three minutes, three minutes of a seven-hour response to this utter Garbage.
	I mean, it was real bullshit he published about me.
	And the latest I've heard is that he was somehow collaborating with Oliver Stone on a project.
	I mean, how bizarre is that?
	Oliver Stone hired Robert Grodin now.
	He's not batting 100%.
	Yeah, yeah, the public may not know, you know, even those who are tuning into our conversation tonight, that Robert Grodin originally did work with Jack White that was rather good work, and then went over to the dark side.
	He was actually hired by the House Select Committee on Assassinations To look into the claim that Lee had been standing in the doorway of the Texas School Book Depository at the time the motorcade passed by.
	He claimed to have taken photographs of the party that the government would prefer to have us believe was standing there, who actually, as a matter of fact, was in the doorway, but standing beside the man whose identity was in question.
	And he took photographs of him that were fabrications and made a completely incorrect diagnosis that the pattern on his shirt, it was a black and red checkered shirt.
	It was a painful attempt.
	He had Billy Lovelady put on more a closer match.
	to the pattern on the man in the doorway than the shirt Lee Oswald was wearing which is rather astonishing result considering the man in the photograph was in fact Lee Oswald as we've been able to prove.
	Yeah but didn't Grodin actually do the Billy Lovelady shirt?
	He tried to match the Billy Lovelady shirt and uh is that isn't that correct?
	Gary, what he did was to take the man in the crowd who was wearing, you know, this big husky guy, I refer to as the gorilla man, who was wearing the red and black.
	He was trying to claim that was Billy Love Lady, but Billy Love Lady had already been photographed by the FBI.
	On the 29th of February 1964, wearing the shirt he wore then, which was a red and white vertically striped short-sleeved shirt that looked nothing like the shirt on the man in the doorway, nor the red and black checkered shirt, totally different, It was pathetic, but he participated in a scam to support the HSCA conclusion that it was just a false rumor that Lee had been in the doorway when the Warren Commission staff had been going crazy trying to conceal the fact that he actually had been there.
	Well, number one, Robert Groden is an op, all right?
	That's one of the most obvious ones There's been a few coming up lately.
	When they had the Oswald trial.
	I mean we had a bunch of those.
	Larry Schnapps.
	Let's get to that, Gary, in just a few minutes.
	Robert Grodin also maintains to this day that this Bruderfilm is authentic, just as Josiah Thompson has claimed that this Bruderfilm is the closest thing we have to absolute truth about the assassination.
	When, as you well know, we've established, not only did they take out 100 frames when turning from Houston onto Elm because the driver, William Greer, swung out too widely and nearly hit a concrete abutment, had to pause to get back in line, but that, as Larry established, after Greer actually pulled the limousine to the left into a halt to make sure JFK would be killed, Which was such stunning evidence of Secret Service complicity that they had to take it out.
	That appears to have been another 400 frames.
	And when you consider how they merged together, the shot to the back of the head where Jack slumped down
	and then Jack eased him back up and was looking him right in the face when he was hit in the right temple
	by that frangible or exploding bullet, and then slumped to the left and took out so many frames,
	you got this violent back and to the left motion that no one in Dealey Plaza had observed.
	I mean, for Robert Grodin to be insisting that the film is authentic when it's provably false,
	John Costella, as you know, did a brilliant job in looking at the internal features of the film itself
	that show that it's a fabrication.
	Meaning they took original film and then altered it using the techniques of optical printing and special effects, including putting a new set of spectators in the front using footage that had been taken earlier when the pilot car passed, so that in this instance, the only place in the crowd where the spectators aren't waving and cheering wildly, you had them just sort of passively looking calmly as though Nothing was driving by but an ordinary police car, which of course hadn't been the case at the time that footage was taken.
	So, you know, I mean it goes on from there.
	But do you know how many people in the JFK community refuse to believe that anything more than a slight frame has been flipped or altered?
	I mean, this is hardcore.
	Look, you go to Black Op Radio, they believe that all of this Altered Z Film stuff is a bunch of hogwash and I mean you have a book about it for God's sakes.
	We've got more evidence than we can amass and that's what's kind of killing me these days is how a lot of times you can't convince people with evidence.
	And Josiah Thompson, I don't know if I ever told you this but Jack, I think I helped him buy it, had obtained one of the first DVD players.
	And I was invited early to a Lancer where Josiah Thompson and his running mate wanted to debate me about the film.
	And asked if Jack could bring his DVD player.
	So Jack brought the DVD player.
	I never heard a word about it from Josiah Thompson and his running mate.
	And when Jack returned to his car later, he found it had been broken into and the DVD player was stolen.
	Gary, I don't know if I ever told you this story.
	Clearly, this was Josiah Thompson using me to set up Jack to steal his DVD player to see what he had.
	I mean, it was disgusting.
	Yeah, it's a rough world out there.
	So, we're down to just a few now.
	On the JFK Show, which we kind of backed off with this major things that have been going on.
	We're gonna try to do at least a show every month.
	Well, I wanted to let the audience know that you have been the host of the new JFK Show for years now.
	We've been doing them at about the rate of once a week on Wednesday evening.
	And we have, how many, Gary?
	270.
	270!
	Don't think about it.
	Think how many years that represents.
	At 50, that's more than five years.
	That's, you know, and you and I and Larry have been the constant elements where intermittently we would bring in a guest.
	Right.
	And I can't tell you, Gary, how many times I've been blown away by Larry's new work.
	I mean, he has been so on top of it.
	We do have 100% truth in Larry Rivera.
	Now, you want to know what happened in JFK?
	Then you read Larry Rivera's book.
	Okay?
	Now, Larry is He's the number one JFK researcher in the world today, by far, and still finding things.
	Now, when you hear someone say that the JFK documents of 2017 yielded no results, I beg to differ.
	You need to talk to Larry Rivera.
	He's found more in those documents, and being able to speak Spanish helped out a lot.
	Come to find out that every single president of Mexico was CIA from head to toe.
	Well, there were three who were in the era surrounding the assassination who were CIA assets.
	And what's fascinating, of course, is that we invited Judith Barry Baker onto the show, during which I explained to her that the only issue that I'd ever disagreed with her about was whether Lee had gone to Mexico City, which caused her great distress.
	Mind you, for background, for our Audience in the chat room.
	I had been Judah's champion for a very long time.
	Early on, I was participating in the Education Forum, which at that time was the leading area for debate, the leading forum for debate in the world about JFK.
	And I I was engaged in a thread that had 2,000 entries where I was supporting Judith from her various attacks.
	I was among the very first to do interviews with Judith.
	We did about 10 short interviews, each one only about 10 minutes long, about key aspects and how her relationship with Lee had developed and then going on basically a double date and a whole lot of stuff and being introduced to Carlos Marcello, all that stuff.
	So when Judith took exception to, you know, the fact that I said the only issue on which I disagreed with her was whether Lee had gone to Mexico City, because I did not believe that he had.
	Larry's proven that I didn't.
	Well, the point I'm leading up to, Gary, is that, yes, with the additional revelations and new documents,
	which are not online, so that you have to go through each of them hand by hand,
	you cannot do an internet or a scan, a search electronically.
	Larry has nevertheless been able to piece together the incredibly elaborate scam to create a false impression
	that Lee had gone to Mexico City.
	And I have no idea where Judith stands anymore.
	In fact, the last time I participated in a conference with her,
	she had been hinting to me how she would like to give me and David Mannick an award.
	So I pointed out to her, this was the perfect opportunity.
	Not only did she not give me or David Mandik an award, she gave one to Robert Grodin instead, who had betrayed the entire research community and falsely testified to the House Select Committee that it was not Lee in the doorway, which would have been the ultimate vindication for Judith that her boyfriend in New Orleans was innocent, which she professes to be her lifelong object.
	I know.
	I like Judith a lot, but to give Robert Grodin the highest honors.
	At one time, that was one of the biggest conferences going.
	I think it's really slacked off a lot, you know.
	And look, we have to admit, we've been bamboozled, I think, on our conference that was supposed to be in Austin this year.
	What do you think?
	Bamboozled?
	Yeah.
	It's got every guy.
	Remember we were going to do a conference in New Orleans?
	Oh yeah, Gary, Gary.
	Ron's okay.
	He just had too big a production in mind.
	And because of the hazards of COVID, going to Austin to be physically present was too risky.
	We could have all been tied up for two weeks of quarantine.
	So I told him I thought we ought to go virtual.
	Much easier to produce.
	Everyone can do it without having to travel or run the risk of a quarantine.
	But that, he balked, and that's when I took over.
	He didn't want to go forward, so I'm taking it over to refashion it as the False Flag and Conspiracies 2020 Conference, which will be online on the 5th and the 6th of December, Gary, where I now have, as you know since you're one of my speakers, Two dozen of the best on the various topics they'll address, and where I will be hosting, which anyone can pursue by going to falseflagconspiracies2020.com.
	I'll put it here in the chat room, the URL, because it's gonna be sensational.
	I think if someone were to go to one conference in their life, and here they don't even have to go I'd leave their homes if I can get the typing to go.
	Yeah.
	All I know is since Ron came around with his big production and all that, we don't have the conference in New Orleans nor in Austin.
	Good guy or not.
	You know what I'm saying?
	I was really all in on it.
	I wanted to continue the New Orleans conference because it had become a big thing, but then Judith and Mike McClellan, Trying to remember his name.
	Chris McCullen.
	McCullen, yeah.
	They had stopped doing it, so I thought it was a great opportunity, you know, to jump right in.
	But I have some surprises there for my presentation at the conference.
	Oh, good, good, good, good.
	I'm just trying to get the link right here for some reason.
	There it goes.
	We have a member of the chat room, by the way, who's recently had a conversation with James Files and is going to have an additional.
	And I want to tell you, Gary, David did a long interview.
	I'm talking now about David W. Mantic, for everyone who may not know, who has both a PhD in physics from Wisconsin, an MD from Michigan, and is board certified in radiation oncology.
	Which means that he's an expert in the interpretation of x-rays.
	He is a leading expert on the medical evidence in the world and did a lengthy interview with Jerry Corsi going through his discoveries.
	Which include, and I don't believe I actually had understood this fully, a third shot to the head.
	So David had previously established Jack had been hit in the back of the head by a shot that was fired from the Dow tax, but which the physicians had identified, and also by a shot that entered the right temporal and blew his brains out the back of his head.
	But when he had gone to the archives the first time, he had discovered a trail of metallic particles from a frangible exploding bullet.
	James Files had always insisted he had used a mercury bullet, which would leave such a metallic trail, but since we knew who had fired the shot that entered the right temple, Frank Sturgis, who may have been the best marksman in the world at the time, who was at the intersection of the picket fence and the triple underpass, I didn't see any wound that could be accounted for by a Files shot.
	But Gary, David has now established there was another shot to the head in the vicinity of the right ear, and that I think now would be consistent with Files' claim.
	So I'm now seeing where we may have evidence of the hit in two ways.
	The side entry and the metallic distribution Which David has now explained to me is not consistent with a shot that would have entered the right temple.
	I now see a medical justification for Files having been a shooter, too.
	From behind the fence.
	Yeah, from behind the fence, as he claimed.
	And of course, he said he cripped, you know, he bit onto a shell casing and buried it there, which was subsequently discovered.
	So, you know, there's something going on there.
	Yeah, I've always, um, I've been 100% sure with About Files, but hey.
	Well, I haven't been open-minded about it particularly until now for the reason that he never talked about the limo stop which set up his shot, which seemed to me he would have had he been there since it was indispensable.
	I'm adding an address if someone wants to write to me here.
	Jim at moonrockbooks.com.
	There it is.
	So you have, I put in the chat room both a link to the False Flags and Conspiracies 5 and 6 December virtual conference, but also an email address if anyone writes to me.
	I am very intrigued now.
	When Files' Confessions of an Assassin first came out, Gary, I watched it twice at the request of a local TV station.
	It explained why, although it seemed to me he knew a great deal about the assassination, I gave him an 80% truth rating, meaning 80% of what he had to say appeared to me to be true.
	The 20% disqualified him because he never spoke about the limo stop and because he said he was invited to participate in the assassination that morning.
	Yeah.
	Which is frankly absurd.
	Now, according to files, he and Chucky Nicoletti, who is a well-known hitman for the mob, were the shooters.
	But we have now established eight different shooters.
	I've identified six of them by name, rank, and serial number.
	Only Domogard is seventh, with which I agree.
	So the only one we haven't identified, Gary, was by the tree on the opposite side, where I've seen two different photographs, one in the possession of Rick Russo, the other Ed Tetreault, of a guy there holding a rifle, and these are two different photographs, which is really incredible, because you could not have seen him.
	I mean, obviously he was lying down there, well camouflaged, and I have yet to discern What shot he would have fired or what effect it would have had, which I can account for in the case of all the other shooters now, except for the
	The Israeli shooter who was in the Pergola area, Clyde Forshaw, with a mob up in Toronto representing the Bronfman family.
	Because we have a Dallas deputy sheriff on the county records building.
	We have an Air Force expert inside the triple underpass.
	We have Frank Sturgis, as I already mentioned.
	And by the way, the Air Force expert is named Jack Lawrence.
	The Deputy Sheriff's name is Harry Weatherford.
	Then we have Roscoe White, who was a police officer tied to the CIA who may have had the easiest shot.
	He was right there on the grassy knoll, but which he pulled Because it would have hit Jackie, and they were under strict instruction she must not be harmed.
	We have in addition then an anti-Castro activist, Nestor Tony Escadro, who was in the Daltex, who filed three shots, the only unsilenced shots, with a Mannlicher Carcano.
	There you have Lyndon Johnson's personal hitman Malcolm McWallace in the book depository, but on the opposite side firing as many as three shots at John Connolly in the mistaken belief it was Ralph Yarborough.
	Because as you know, Lyndon And Jack had a huge argument that morning where Lyndon wanted to get Connolly out and Yarborough in, but which Jack overrode on the ground that Connolly, as the governor, was a chief executive of the state who should ride with a chief executive of the United States, but there wasn't time to get the word out to the shooters.
	So you see Connolly's looking pretty grim just before getting into the motorcade because he knows he's going to be in the line of fire.
	Well, I mean, so do you go up from 80% to 90% with files?
	Well, it is peculiar.
	So I wanted to interview him to talk about some of this stuff.
	Because it's ridiculous to think anyone would be brought into the assassination of the president by morning of the shooting.
	I mean, that's just ludicrous.
	They don't operate like that.
	And he also seems to me to be part and parcel of a scheme to blame it on the mob.
	But when you look at the various organizations and entities involved, you got Dallas Police, Dallas Sheriff, Air Force, Lyndon's personal hitman, Soldier of Fortune, Sturges.
	You know, I mean, anti-Castro-Cuban.
	It looks to me, Gary, as you've heard me say before, that each of the different groups who were sponsoring the assassination put up their own shooter.
	I had to put a knife in Caesar.
	Is that right?
	Well, that's for persons who are friends or allies.
	I mean, you know, really, it goes back to Lyndon, who always wanted to be president of all the people.
	If anyone wants to read one book about Lyndon Johnson, the book to read is LBJ Mastermind of JFK's Assassination, By Phil Nelson.
	You cannot read the first few chapters and not understand the character of Lyndon Johnson.
	Yeah, I got it right over there.
	Yeah, now that's one of our guests we had on at least once a year.
	Probably had him on five times as Phil Nelson.
	Had Ralph and Kay quite a few times.
	Sometimes it's a wild ride with Ralph But he's done a lot of good work, especially- Oh yeah, I wanted to add that about Ralph Sinque.
	Ralph has surprised me again and again.
	I think he has to be one of the most maligned on all of the, you know, the various JFK discussion boards.
	And I really don't understand exactly why it was Ralph who convinced me we could identify the man in the doorway based upon his height, his weight, his build, his shirt, and his t-shirt.
	Even if the facial features were indistinct, where what Larry added and was going to produce at the mock trial for Lee Oswald, but where agents who don't want the truth to come out blocked him on completely ridiculous grounds because his work was so good.
	My photo overlays have no question who's who standing in the doorway.
	And Ralph had already nailed it before Larry came along with the photographic overlays.
	I wish you could share a screen because I got it right on my desktop, where it just completely matches Lee Oswald and Billy Love Lady, and with no question.
	And that's probably one of Larry's biggest discoveries, but not the only one by any stretch of imagination.
	Well, all of Larry's work on the limo stop, you know, doing interviews with Four horsemen, as he calls them, the four motorcycle escort officers has been completely brilliant, Gary.
	And Larry's number one in the world for a reason.
	And we're happy to have him on our team.
	And, you know, the new JFK Show, which you can get them all from $185 to $270 on 153news.net.
	They're all still there.
	And I think there's a place called Rockfin.
	Jason Burmas, who's used to, he didn't lose change with 9-11.
	He's going there because they've had many, many huge purges on YouTube.
	And he was, he just knows that his days are numbered.
	So he's going to Rockvin.
	I think I'm going to post the JFK shows there.
	And I think there's some sort of Bitcoin involved where you put up the shows and you can watch them for a while.
	But if you're a premium, you can watch all of them, something like that.
	But I think that's where we're going to go with from 1 to 185.
	But you can still get all the things we're talking about.
	We covered a lot of stuff from, see, we had from show 1 all the way to 185 completely deleted from YouTube.
	Now, Jim and I, see, everyone's complaining about YouTube purge that just happened a few weeks ago.
	Well, we were in the first wave.
	Of the Purge.
	Jim and I is, oh Jim is just a magnet for deletion is what he is.
	It would appear, it would appear Gary, that's, I think you got it right.
	You know it was Sandy Hook, but I had a YouTube channel and I'm not gonna exaggerate.
	I was making around eight, I think around eight hundred dollars a month as far as residuals towards the end because so many people were watching it.
	And so many people went to it, and they just pulled the plug on that channel.
	I mean, kaboom!
	And it is because of Sandy Hook.
	When they really clamped down on that, we had at least 20 Sandy Hook shows, Boston Marathon shows, basically all the false flag that go on today.
	And I've gotten to the point, Jim, where How many times have we seen how sloppy and ridiculous these false flag events are and I at one time I was not naive enough to believe that they were going to get caught and then someone's going to come in and arrest these guys and do something but I believe that that's put in there on purpose.
	I really think the whole goal is to cause a reaction So you have a false event, half the people believe it, and
	then they leave enough stuff in there where other people are just outraged at how
	ridiculous it is, but there's just something, some sort of spell that the
	people are in that all they can say is, you can feel it, all the time.
	I did on Sunday an overview.
	You'd been suggesting I needed to do an update on JFK, Gary.
	I actually did one Sunday.
	What happened to JFK?
	Did the Warren report get it right?
	And it's available at several places.
	It's on my Twitter, Jim Fetzer.
	It's on a BitChute site.
	I think if you put in BitChute Jim Fetzer, you should be able to find it.
	But also I've asked that it be archived at jimtheconspiracyguy.com.
	Well, I have over 60 shows now since I began that website earlier this year at the rate of three shows per week.
	So I guess...
	Three times 20 is 60, so I've been doing it for at least 20 weeks.
	But I would like anyone who is interested, and I noticed Ron Frey is having interaction with James Files.
	I'd really like if Ron, for example, got a chance to take a look to see how much What he's hearing from Files is consistent with everything else we know about the case.
	Because while I'm open now to Files having possibly been one of the shooters, I mean, that kicks the total up to nine shooters.
	I mean, even Lyndon, I think, wouldn't insist it was a whole firing squad there, but that's the equivalent of what was assembled.
	It was raining bullets in Dealey Plaza.
	Unbelievable.
	Unbelievable.
	So I'm just going to say, you know, to Ron that I'd like to correspond with him about his discussions with Files, who has declined doing an interview with me now, because I was previously more skeptical not having a medical justification for an hit by Files, but now together with the Distribution of particles, and with the wound to the side of the head, that may be the shot files fired, but there's much more going on there.
	I'm worried about those who go full court press to make it out that the mob shot JFK, because really it was basically a Lyndon Johnson operation.
	It involved the CIA, the Joint Chiefs, Anti-Castro Cubans, the mob, the Texas oil men, and Israel.
	I mean, they all want to jack out and so far as I can tell, each of them put up their own shooter.
	Yeah, Lennon wasn't underneath the dashboard before the shots started firing for no reason, all right?
	He was hiding out on the radio.
	So look, Lennon Johnson's, I mean, I don't know.
	He's guilty of sin.
	Ron Frye is saying that Files was a CIA shooter.
	Ron Fry is saying that Files was CIA shooter.
	And that's entirely possible.
	I mean, George- George-
	He's saying he got hired the morning before?
	Well, that doesn't sound- Well, yeah, he said that Chuckie Nicoletti invited him
	to participate in the assassination of the president the morning of the 22nd.
	And I frankly find that completely absurd.
	you Yeah, we're gonna... We've always welcomed any and everyone to bring their evidence on the JFK Show.
	If he didn't want to come, then I guess we could observe whatever else he brought forth.
	Now Ron's denying it here, but I got that from the confessions of an assassin when I watched it a couple of times
	for the local TV outlet.
	And if I get new evidence, I will change my mind.
	And that's why discovering that David now believes there was a third shot to the head and that the metallic particles actually didn't come from the shot to the right temple, therefore not from the shot fired by Sturgis.
	That leaves me open to Files, who always claimed he'd used a mercury-loaded... Yeah, in this Remington Fireball, it was a high-velocity varmint weapon, so-called, with a shoulder extension.
	I mean, it was a pistol, a high-powered pistol.
	And I've always said of Files that the weapon interested me more than the shooter.
	But now I'm open to possibly Files having had a role.
	So we'll pursue that.
	Right, you always did say as evidence comes forth you may have to re-evaluate your opinion on things or your theory.
	Did you want to talk about the Boston Marathon a little bit?
	Absolutely, Gary!
	And by the way, let me mention That you and David Mantic and Larry Rivera and Ralph Sinque will all be speaking at False Flags and Conspiracies 2020 on the 5th and 6th of December.
	I mean, the lineup is phenomenal.
	Yeah.
	And you, of course, are going to be talking about the Boston bombing.
	That's easy for me.
	That was just a piece of cake.
	I think I'm going to be able to handle that one in about 10 minutes.
	Then I'm going to go on to my surprise, which I'm going to tell you what it is.
	All right.
	All right.
	You got like 55 minutes, so, you know, you can surprise me.
	Okay.
	Well, we really need pictures for you to better understand what the other one is, but this one you totally know.
	All right.
	Of course, we have, you know, William Casey.
	We'll know our disinformation program is complete with everything The American people believe it's false, and they all believe that Joe Biden is the president.
	However, it's not the case yet, but I guess that's the CIA doing their thing.
	Now, to me, Jim, the Boston Marathon is, I've said this probably too many times, has to be one of the most embarrassing, ridiculous, false flags ever perpetrated on the American people.
	However, I'm not I'm not excited that this much obvious evidence doesn't seem to change people's mind.
	And that's the real difficult part of all this.
	But we have things like the Boston tweeting out that there's going to be an explosion, you know, at the 600 block of Boysen Street.
	And guess what?
	It happened.
	There will be a controlled explosion opposite the library within one minute.
	as bomb squad activities.
	So I mean that right there, I have a picture that I'm gonna be showing.
	I call it Baby Strong.
	There's a child in a wheelchair with his foot blown off and he's not even sniffling, not one cry.
	That's what you call a Boston Strong.
	Boy, I'll say what a hero.
	What deceived the American people is, you know, when you peered in through the smoke,
	There were bodies there missing arms and legs.
	But as Lorraine Day, who is the head of trauma surgery for San Francisco General Hospital for 25 years, has observed, It's a physiological impossibility to have arms and legs blown off by explosives and there to be no blood.
	So, how did they do it?
	They used amputee crisis actors, Gary!
	I mean, it's amazing!
	You can look them up in the Yellow Pages.
	They're in the Yellow Pages.
	They really are.
	Now, we even have a picture after the race.
	I mean, this is a screenshot When you're looking at the screen and they're talking to the wheelchair race winner and it's the race is complete.
	We've got the women's race is complete and the men's race is complete and the explosion hasn't happened.
	So they're showing you right there on television that all of the races were complete.
	Then they came in with the exercise or, um, Well, it was a drill that most of the people didn't realize it was going to turn live.
	And most of the people there didn't even realize that it wasn't a fake event.
	All right, now we've got insane evidence.
	Like, when there's this lady named Jeb Too, she was the winner, and she's holding her hands up in the air.
	And if you look behind her, there's a huge, I mean, it's got to be, Maybe 30 yards long and 15 yards deep monitor screen behind her.
	But then you look later on when the bombs go off the monitor screen's gone.
	So what does that mean?
	That means that the guy who had the million dollar monitor screen they were using told them to get that the flock out of there and there's going to be bomb squad activities.
	So they jacked it.
	I mean they put on the truck and they hauled it up. Right? So that's called
	ridiculous evidence right there.
	I've got many pictures of them showing. Yeah Ron thinks it was Blackwater but it wasn't. It was
	international, Kraft International, not Blackwater.
	And they were all wearing these khaki trousers, black jackets, and a black baseball cap with a skull insignia, where the motto of Craft is, violence does solve problems.
	How bad is that, Gary?
	Violence does solve problems.
	Okay, we got you.
	All right, now let's talk about Jeff Bauman, for God's sakes.
	Jeff Bauman, sure, of course.
	Wasn't he a hero in Boston, Gary?
	Oh, man, this guy's really good.
	I mean, he's miraculous, you'll find out, in many medical ways.
	All right, so come to find out.
	See, his name was Nick Bolt.
	And there's pictures of Nick Bolt, and Nick Bolt's got a problem.
	He's he lost one of his fingers in Afghanistan and so he's a nine-fingered guy.
	Also he has lost his legs up to his butt.
	All right so that's obvious and you can see There's actually quite a few pictures.
	You can see him laying on the ground at the Boston Marathon.
	You can see his finger is missing.
	He's holding up a t-shirt where it's missing.
	Let's see.
	Here we go.
	It's very interesting that Ron Pryor here is suggesting that actually Blackwater was impersonating Kraft International to smear them.
	Could be true.
	Alright, so now What happens 17 days later, all right?
	Now, you gotta imagine, this man has lost both legs and they weren't surgically removed in the operating room.
	They were blown off across the street.
	And so, in 17 days later, which is a medical impossibility, we all know that, it's as cheesy as this guy is out of Boston Bruins hockey game, waving a Boston Strong flag, and you'll never believe it, but he's got 10 fingers, okay?
	Isn't it amazing?
	So one of his fingers grew back, Gary.
	I told you he's a medical.
	That guy's good.
	He's like a crab.
	He can grow a leg back when he loses one.
	So he's got kneecaps on the second picture.
	So far we have two Jeff Baumans.
	The first one, as far as I can tell, after the day of the Boston Marathon, he said, I didn't sign up for this and basically disappeared.
	I don't know of him ever getting in front of the camera again.
	He was just part of the footage.
	He was part of the amputee actors that were there.
	He got paid and he did his thing, but I don't think that he realized that he was going to be Broadcast worldwide with a guy with a cowboy hat pushing him around.
	Carlos Arredondo.
	Right.
	And then, I mean, this one gets really bad.
	I mean, the guy's prosthetic leg falls off in the street and then they run around and grab it and stick it back on.
	It wasn't a leg, Gary, it was a fake bone extension that had been applied when he was lying there under the smoke, and we see this fellow in a hoodie putting the fake bone extension, and then when they wheel him off in a wheelchair, which is the wrong thing to do with someone with lower extremity damage, because the gravity will draw the blood out, The vibrations of a wheelchair cause a fake bone extension to fall off and they have to stop and reattach.
	I mean, how bad is that?
	It gets bad, but you know, if you tell... Was it Kelly Watt that coined this phrase, you cannot convince people with evidence?
	That has made a lasting impression on me, when she said that.
	And as much evidence as we're showing here, You can show people this, and they will look at you and say, you sound like a conspiracy theory.
	I mean, look, and I'm personal friends with the guy whose dad, they came up with that term, Jim Garrison.
	So just to make it worse, Jim, on the Jimmy Kimmel Show, they haul out a third Jeff Bauman.
	I mean, I've got pictures of all this stuff, and I'll certainly have them for the conference, but There's actually, now this guy has no legs, no knees whatsoever.
	So when you, the guy at the, at the hockey game, he does have knees and 10 fingers.
	And then the next guy does not have knees and is just a different person.
	I mean, it's obvious.
	It may be kind of easy to find a pair, two people that kind of look alike.
	But it's not easy to find two people who look alike that are double amputees.
	It makes it a little harder, you know, to try to get.
	So they really didn't.
	I mean, if you look at these pictures, it's not the same guy.
	I mean, it's obvious.
	And to know that we're paraded with things like this on an ongoing basis to this day, all the way to, you know, Believing that Joe Biden is the president already, and he's not.
	I mean, like him or not, he's not.
	Yet.
	Well, not only that, but this guy who's out giving the talks and all that isn't even Joe Biden.
	I mean, you know, have we talked about that, Gary, that they're using a body double?
	Oh, you're killing me, Jim.
	No.
	Don't tell me that.
	No.
	I know, it's unbelievable.
	I've been trying to get somebody to, you know, get it to Trump because you couldn't have more positive, dispositive proof of campaign fraud that is going to disqualify the Democrats completely.
	Weren't they pulling that with Hillary too?
	I mean, look, I know Joe Biden can barely read a teleprompter, but That's just stunning to me.
	I mean, I thought—it's hard to shock me, Jim, but if they're really running around with doubles— Yeah, yeah, you can find the blog at jamesfetzer.org.
	Joe Biden vs. debate.
	Joe Biden, just not the same guy.
	And I go through and explain how you can tell, including that the ears are different.
	Joe Biden, where the ears attach to his head, they curl up.
	So he has what's known as a pedant, kind of a hanging earlobe.
	But the body double has ears that come straight down to the head.
	The body double's head is slightly narrower than Joe Biden's.
	The body double has brown eyes, Joe Biden has blue.
	If you look at their various photographs, these are now behavioral indications that could Be the same or accountable in other ways.
	They're less significant.
	But Joe Biden uses a double Windsor when he ties his tie.
	The body double is single Windsor.
	We knew before the debate that Joe Biden had had a skull implant so he could get instructions by radio without having to wear a wire.
	But the body double doesn't and therefore had to wear a wire.
	Here's the killer, Gary, in what happened.
	We had reports before the debate that the Biden crew already had the questions.
	We also had a report that A staff member had defected from the Biden team and was reporting that the anti-dementia medication Joe was taking had the unfortunate side effect of incontinence, so that they'd actually had a staff meeting debating what type of adult diaper Joe ought to be wearing that would be least visible through his clothing and make the least crinkling sound when he urinated.
	Leading me to infer that he has a future after politics, making commercials for the pens.
	And when they asked for a break every 30 minutes, these were only 90 minute debates.
	They needed a break every 30 minutes to change his diaper.
	When team Trump said no, they went with plan B. My goodness, Jim.
	When you kind of step away from some of this stuff, you might miss a thing or two.
	Oh, I'll tell you.
	I'll tell you, Gary.
	I've been sending it around because I think it would make a huge difference here.
	And it's something so obvious and straightforward.
	Yeah.
	Because there are just thousands and thousands of photographs of both the old Joe and the new Joe.
	I mean, there's no possibility of photoshopping here.
	I mean, there's just too many photographs.
	I also thought I'd take a look at body language when they're with Jill.
	And when Joe is with Jill, his wife, they're usually hand-in-hand or arm-in-arm, and Jill is just beaming, just beaming.
	And Joe has a big shit-eating smile on his face, okay?
	Yeah, when you don't have a A diaper on his face.
	No, no, no.
	Just a shit-eating smile.
	Now, when the body double is with Jill, they're walking apart.
	They're not hand-in-hand.
	She looks very grim, not beaming.
	And he's not even smiling.
	I mean, once you step back and look at it, you realize these aren't at all the same guy.
	Yeah, once you know, it's easy.
	Kind of like Paul McCartney.
	You know?
	Once you know, it's easy to spot.
	In all of this stuff.
	How long did it take you to realize that Paul had been replaced?
	Now, that one's a little tricky now.
	That one took me a little longer than normal, but we have Clarence Cohen on the case.
	I like Mike Williams.
	I've listened to and observed a lot of things that he's done.
	I talked with Don Fox about it, and after a little while, You can tell the guy's a much bigger dude.
	You know, when they're up on the rooftop playing, he's just a much bigger guy.
	He doesn't really sound the same.
	His bass lines aren't the same.
	You know, it's like two drummers.
	You can tell at once that they may both be good drummers, but They don't sound the same.
	Gary, I want you to expand on that, because many may not know that you are a musician, and that you give guitar lessons, and that you had noticed that the later Paul, whom we call Fall, F-A-U-L, but who appears to be Billy Shears or William Shepard, who was a session musician known as the Man of a Thousand Voices, that you had noticed there were distinct differences in their musical styles.
	Could you elaborate?
	All right.
	Being a musician, we're always talking about, you know, who's better, who's this, especially growing up around the Beatles.
	Now, I'm going to tell, even if you're not a musician, or if you are a bass player, put on Twist and Shout and listen to that bass line.
	It's probably one of the most incredible bass lines, and I'm telling you that Paul McCartney played so much Live with his band, and he became probably one of the most prolific bass players standing next to Geddy Lee of Rush, Chris Squire of Yes, all these bands.
	You want to talk about the great bass players?
	He was one of them, okay?
	And when Fall came along, I'm not saying that he couldn't play bass, but nothing like Paul McCartney.
	Some things you just can't acquire without years and years and years of applying your trade.
	And he was a piano player, all right?
	The guy was a good piano player.
	And see, that's another thing.
	You don't just bust into, now there are some exceptions.
	Now I've been teaching music for 21 years.
	I've only had two, no, one and a half virtuosos.
	I'm telling you, a guy that learned everything I knew in two weeks.
	All right, they're very, very, very, very, and the Beatles were not virtuoso.
	All right?
	So for Paul to go from playing the songs that they played, and if you really listen, Jim, the sets that they played when they would go out and tour from the beginning and at the very last, I'm not sure if it was Shea Stadium or not, but the last concert that they played, It was still the same songs.
	Like, she's a woman.
	They were still playing these same songs.
	All right?
	So Paul really didn't have time to become a prolific, world-class, college-educated pianist or keyboardist.
	But Paul was.
	Now, let's not take away from the guy's musicianship.
	The guy was an incredible keyboard player, but for Paul just to bust into playing, and see, it's not always just playing it.
	Sometimes you can teach someone to play someone else's music, but it's another thing when you're writing it.
	And writing music like that on piano, well, Paul could do it.
	Paul could not.
	Paul could play bass like nobody else.
	Paul couldn't.
	No, he did the best he could.
	I want to be real sure which is which, but let me give a little background for the audience here.
	I was resistant in spite of all the clues that suggest Paul died and been replaced until I discovered the work of two Italian forensic scientists who actually set out to disprove the hypothesis that Paul had died and been replaced and wound up confirming it instead because they discovered that James Paul McCartney had bad teeth and a narrow palate.
	His replacement, Fall, F-A-U-L for False Paul, had good teeth and a normal palate.
	Paul had a very roundish, very boyish face.
	Fall, or False Paul, had a more oblong and more mature look.
	Paul was engaged to Jane Asher, who was an actress in her day, and they were virtually the same height.
	But when later, after Paul's death, and Paul was with Jane, where the Asher family obviously had agreed to go along with his charade in order to save the band, he towers over her.
	He's at least four inches taller, and therefore four inches taller than Paul.
	So there are these clear physical differences.
	It's even more unmistakable in the case of poll and fall than it is with Joe Biden and debate Joe.
	And then for those who may not know, in fact, Hillary Clinton used six or eight different body doubles.
	If you go to jimtheconspiracyguy.com, And look for my program called Fake News Issues of Identity.
	I go through Hillary's use of body doubles in great detail, and interestingly, I think she blazed a trail.
	Because a Hillary who debates both Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump is not Hillary Clinton.
	It's a younger, thinner, More attractive, much, much better looking version that, of course, they thought voters would be more drawn to.
	But the voice is indistinguishable from Hillary's.
	You can actually see in that case She's got a little metallic voice box in her mouth that gives her the same voice as Hillary.
	Now this guy has what I take to be the same voice as Joe Biden.
	We haven't figured out quite how they did that, but it's part of the mystique and how they can hook people into believing it's actually the same guy when it is not.
	Absolutely.
	All right.
	So I'm going to give away my surprise here.
	This may be something, um, Kind of new to you, Jim, but I do want to at least do part of my presentation on the Tartarian Empire.
	Okay?
	All right, now, for the very uninitiated, the Tartarian Empire, there are many, many, many, many, many maps, and it appears in some of these maps to have started in Russia and have expanded Throughout the world.
	Gary, Gary, Gary, Gary, give me the big picture.
	What are you talking about with the Tartarian Empire?
	The Tartarian Empire is a big theory right now to me, but there appears to have been a group of people that were vastly, vastly more superior in building things than we are today.
	Now, If you look at, you know the famous buildings in Russia with the big silver domes?
	Okay, those domes, I wish I could show you some of these pictures, but just imagine the Taj Mahal.
	Imagine the Pennsylvania building.
	I think it's the post office building in Pennsylvania.
	These buildings are so glorious, so magnificent, and so big.
	That you think about it, wait a minute, how did they build these things when they didn't have any diesel engines?
	They're running around with horse and buggy, and they've got magnificent structures.
	I mean, just think in all of Europe, some of these massive, unimaginably gorgeous.
	I mean, if it's not every square inch, nothing but pure, magnificent design, then they didn't build it.
	They don't have just a circle on the wall, You know, on the HGTV channel, okay?
	And I would also like to say that I believe that our music has been the same way.
	I believe that about 200... I'd say a little more than 200 years ago, music was at just levels that we barely even can imagine.
	I mean, think of the classical music and how complex they had entire orchestras.
	They had organs the size of the whole church.
	And now what do we have?
	You know, my Sharona!
	You see?
	So, a lot of things have come down.
	And when I show you these buildings and the magnificence of them, the inside of these cathedrals, they just didn't have the ability to build these buildings.
	And we're talking about Windows that have a million pieces of glass of nothing but beautiful art.
	A million pieces of glass for one window!
	What where did they have time to do all this?
	Now another thing is that the way the buildings look.
	Now when you go to Wall Street you see that your typical you know building with the uh you know um you know what uh it looks like the uh Wall Street.
	Those buildings are everywhere in every single country in the world.
	And I'm telling you that those buildings exist on the other side of the China Wall, when those people there are still having wagons drawn by people.
	Gary, this is very intriguing.
	I would like for us to have a separate conversation about that because the visual, the photographs are so important.
	Let's return to Paul and fall.
	I want you to talk about the musical differences.
	My opinion has been that his replacement was an even better musician than James Paul McCartney.
	Now, am I correct about that?
	And how would you elaborate on that question?
	That's like saying I love Trump, I hate Trump.
	You're gonna make half the people happy and you're gonna piss off the rest.
	A lot of people do not like it when you say that the replacement was a better musician, but of course that's a matter of opinion.
	Anyhow, but I'm just gonna say if you watch the concerts that the Beatles were playing live all the way to the very end, you will see a huge Transformation and from what I understand this guy said look if y'all expect me to give my life to this project but who wouldn't want to be a Beatle?
	He said let me tell you what all this boy meets girl love song stuff is over and and you have to admit from the moment that fall came in there was no more she loves you yeah yeah yeah no it was uh Let me take you down.
	You know, it's obvious after you take the time.
	He was a much more, wanted to be more serious.
	Be more... Experimental.
	Experimental, and he didn't want to do the teeny bopper thing.
	See, a lot of the Beatles fans were 12, 13, 14.
	I mean, I know they had fans all the way to 100, but, you know, the teeny bopper thing, he didn't want to do it anymore.
	And he didn't spend all his time getting a degree in music and practicing.
	You have to practice to get that good.
	You know, he wanted to have some control over the band.
	And I guess that's where a lot of the friction came between him and John.
	I mean, it must have been difficult to know that they were leading a fraud.
	I mean, you know, everything goes from the out, the penthouse to the outhouse and the Happened to the Beatles.
	They were on top of the world.
	And the next thing you know, they're living the biggest fraud and knowing it.
	You know, it's got to be difficult.
	You know, I might have been doing heroin, too, if I was having to live a lie like that.
	As John was prone to do.
	You know, but as far as the musical differences, it's huge, especially being a bass player.
	Listen to Nowhere Man.
	Listen to the bass line on Nowhere Man.
	Twist and shout.
	And then just listen to the other bass lines after that.
	They're more sluggish or workman-like.
	But Paul McCartney could turn a song and make you get up and dance.
	And because that's what they did.
	They mostly made people dance before they changed the world.
	So.
	That's pretty much it.
	Now, what took you so long with Paul, Dr. Petser?
	You said you were hesitant on that one.
	So was I. Hesitant on what exactly, Gary?
	On the Paul Fall.
	No, no, no.
	I needed physical evidence.
	That's why the study of the Italian forensic scientist was conclusive to me.
	There's a blog of mine where everyone can see the evidence.
	I mean, it's right there at jamesfetzer.org entitled, Why Ringo's Confession We replace Paul appears to be correct.
	You can find that on my blog and I give you the photographs from the forensic scientist research and it's included in my book and I suppose we didn't go to the moon either.
	Which my series editor, Mike Palachuk, proposed as a response for our second book to the title, Nobody Died at Sandy Hook.
	Someone might say, yeah, yeah, and I suppose we didn't go to the moon either.
	Which, of course, we didn't!
	We didn't go to the moon!
	Boy, that one gets funnier and funnier by the day.
	All this NASA stuff.
	I mean, NASA needs to be arrested and hauled off to jail for their chicanery.
	I mean, I don't know.
	What do they do?
	I mean, I barely even know how much they even go in outer space.
	I just know it's a big, big... Yeah, it doesn't appear that we've ever gone out of low Earth orbit, actually.
	You're right, Gary.
	The space station, and I have friends who are skeptical even about its existence, appears to be close to the limit.
	So how long did it take you to crack the moon code?
	Not long, huh?
	Oh, I got interested in the moon issue when I was in London in 2001 with my wife, where we stayed at the Morgan Hotel on Bloomsbury Street, which backs onto the British Museum.
	I picked it because her maiden name was Morgan.
	And we came in and I just turned on the telly.
	To use a British expression, and on one of the BBC channels they were doing this documentary, which had only just been released.
	I may have seen it the first time.
	It was broadcast, called Conspiracy Theory.
	Did we land on the moon?
	And it was giving one scientific proof after another that we had it gone.
	I mean, I was hooked.
	Given my background in the history and philosophy of science, that was the kind of argument I was looking for, and there it was in spades, and I was drawn into it ever after.
	Yeah, so what would be the number one most ridiculous moon landing event?
	You mean proof?
	Yeah, or just the most outrageous Oh, there's so many.
	Here's a good one.
	I think that since there's no atmosphere on the moon, that moondust is no more capable of retaining an impression than the sands of the Sahara.
	And yet we have all these moon rover tracks, footprints of astronauts in the moondust, Well, my argument is as follows, because we also have a moon rover with no tracks, neither behind, in front, nor in between, so either Moondust retains tracks or impressions or it doesn't.
	If it does retain tracks, and we have to explain how we can have this moon rover with no tracks anywhere, and if it doesn't, then of course we have all the tracks showing that it was false.
	But one of the nicest, simplest, is that in the moon dust, retaining an imprint is a sneaker from one of the members of the set.
	Not an astronaut space moon, but a sneaker!
	A tennis shoe!
	There's several of my favorites, including that, you know, this was like 10 years ago, a NASA spokesman came out and explained the greatest obstacle to manned flight to Mars was the Van Allen radiation belt, evidently forgetting that we had to transcend that problem to have gone to the moon back in 1969-70.
	Another is that when NASA discovered a treasure trove of moon landing footage in a basement in Florida, when this would have been the most precious footage ever taken by the hand of man had it been real.
	They didn't preserve it, they destroyed it.
	Another I really liked was NASA putting out a request for assistance.
	With its space poop problem.
	They were explaining that the presently available space diapers would only hold human waste for 14 hours.
	And they wanted help.
	They were offering $30,000 for assistance.
	When some of these trips took seven or eight days, which I therefore observed, meant that the whole claim to have gone to the moon and back was nothing but a gigantic pile of space poop.
	Yeah.
	And in addition, we've seen a photograph of Earth from the Moon.
	But I noticed that the ratio of the Earth in relation to the Moon with this photograph purportedly taken from the Moon of Earth was the same as that of the Moon when taken from Earth.
	But in fact, the relative ratio, the Earth is like 55 times more massive than the Moon.
	So if you actually had a photograph of Earth taken from the Moon, it would fill the entire visual field and not be in proportion.
	So what they simply did, of course, was take a photograph of the Moon and doctor it to make the Moon out to be Earth.
	Those are some real tells.
	Jack White was brilliant.
	He discovered that they had taken a staggering number of photographs, so many photographs that when he divided by the amount of time that was available to take them, they were taking a photograph every 50 seconds, if nothing they did was to take photographs every 50 seconds.
	And what's remarkable, of course, is the camera was mounted external to the spacesuit.
	They couldn't even, they couldn't focus or, you know, determine the visual field.
	And yet every one of these space photographs is perfectly framed and in focus.
	I mean, it's just astounding.
	Yeah.
	I mean, those pictures are professional in every way, perfectly framed.
	I mean, I was going to mention that when you stole my thunder on that one, but that is one of the biggest ones.
	It's mounted on their belly!
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Honestly, Gary, I don't believe you could take photographs on the moon.
	I think that cosmic rays would destroy the photographic plate.
	It wouldn't be possible in my opinion.
	Well, that every one of the photographs allegedly taken on the moon is a proof we didn't go there.
	Plus, you know, at the very first press conference, they were asked about the stars, and one said the sky was black, which is of course completely absurd.
	It would have been ablaze with billions of points of light.
	And because Moon has no atmosphere, there wouldn't be the twinkling.
	We get that here because a refraction of light passing through Earth's atmosphere.
	But since Moon has no atmosphere, it would have been ablaze with points of light.
	I've sometimes wondered if that's what George H.W.
	Bush meant by his thousand points of light.
	Yeah.
	All right, well, talking about fake stories, what about the biggest one this year, COVID-19?
	Oh, Gary, I've done so many shows about it.
	Anyone who wants to know the enormity of the scam, you want to go to jimtheconspiracyguy.com.
	My very first show on the 24th of May was all about the COVID hoax and how provable it is the whole thing is a monstrous sham.
	And they're trying to use it to introduce the great Reset, that is what is in the offing for the New World Order, which really means a small number of rich and powerful men own planet Earth, because the proposal is the following.
	They're going to try to cut down on the food supply, they're destroying the middle class, small businesses, so ordinary people don't have any way to make an income.
	And they're even going to cut off the food supply, but then they're going to tell us, we'll give you a guaranteed income, modest, a place to live, which is going to be like a box, 300 square feet, a modest energy allotment if you agree to give up all your property and assets.
	They'll pay off your mortgages, your student loans, and your credit card debt, but in return you have to give up all your property and assets, so you no longer have any property, which is how these people are going to come to own the entire Earth.
	No one else is going to have any property.
	And if you refuse to take the vaccines, which are going to be very bad for you, for human beings and other living things, they're going to declare you to be a public health menace.
	They'll put you in a FEMA cab until you agree to cooperate.
	And if you remain abdurate and not take, you're going to find that your head has been separated from your body and you're no longer a problem for the state.
	It's that bad.
	It's that bad.
	Yeah.
	I just can't believe the people are falling for it.
	I mean, it's so obviously... I'm doing a series of shows every single day called Need to Know.
	Very often with Giuseppe Vaffangulo, who has a medical background from the District of Criminals, as he puts it, and with David Scorpio from the exotic land of Ecuador, you want to find the Need to Know Shows, which are posted on my Twitter account, at Jim Fetzer, because today I just went through death certificate, death statistics, For how many are dying every year in the United States, given the population of the United States?
	And there are between 2 and 3 million deaths every single year from all causes combined.
	2 to 3 million.
	Actually, the number of deaths projected for this year is lower than the number of deaths projected for last year.
	So they're just playing us because the claim is that over 200,000 deaths have occurred from coronavirus, but that's a drop in the bucket.
	We know that 90% of the cases are false positives.
	That you don't actually have coronavirus because the test only picks up fragments of RNA that are left over from having had a cold or the flu, all of which are in the coronavirus family.
	So that 90% of false diagnoses, and it appears that the actual number Who did not have comorbidities that would have predisposed them to die anyway is around 10,000.
	So this whole thing is ridiculous.
	We're destroying the country based upon a fraud where Anthony Fauci, Bill Gates, Henry Kissinger, Ted Turner, a bunch of other monsters, including these people from the World Economic Forum who want to own the entire planet, are playing us for gullible saps.
	And I'm really sorry to say that they're having too great a degree of success.
	I think our only hope is that Trump is able to expose the whole fraud of this election.
	And there's very, very promising signs that that's about to happen.
	We have Sidney Powell making lots of reports about the vast amount of vote manipulation
	using Dominion machines, which were, what happened here in the United States
	was parallel to what happened in Venezuela.
	They use these same machines there, and when they found that the opponent to Hugo Chavez was running away with the election, they just stopped the count for about two hours and reset the machines.
	Well, when they discovered Donald Trump was running away with the election here, they just stopped the count, and they reset the machines, and then they still had to bring in truckloads of fake ballots.
	I mean, it was absolutely astonishing.
	Just before I came on the show, Gary, I was sent a link to a tweet by Louie Gohmert, who is a Texas congressman, possibly now retired, who explained how We know actually how the election went, and the fact is Trump actually had 410 electoral votes, including California.
	And where Trump has documented the whole damn case, he knew they were going to try to steal it, so he was prepared for it.
	And Sidney Powell, who's a very formidable legal mind, has guaranteed the election is going to be reversed.
	It may have to go to the Supreme Court to nullify the election as a fraud, but they've got all the evidence.
	And if that's the case, it'll be sent back to Congress, where the House of Representatives will vote, where each state has one vote.
	But because 38 states have Republican-dominated legislatures, there's going to be a vote on the order of 38 to 12 for Trump, and he'll return as President of the United States.
	And I say, assuming this plays out as I'm describing, thank God.
	Yeah, but if it doesn't, oh God!
	Oh, if it doesn't, if it doesn't, 20 January 2021 marks the beginning of the new American revolution because we will be at war, Gary.
	If they try to steal this country with this phony Joe Biden and this Really preposterous person, Kamala Harris.
	We cannot take it lying down.
	There are 130 million armed Americans who did not vote for Joe Biden and Kamala Harris.
	So I say, even if they shut down the internet, even if they try to keep us from communicating, we will know, every one of us, all the militias, all the patriots, everyone who cares about the future of this nation, At noon, 20 January 2021, the inauguration marks the beginning of our retaking control of our government.
	And I say, of necessity, because otherwise you'll live out your life as a serf or a slave, and you'll be completely under control.
	Your life will not be worth living.
	So we confront, give me liberty or give me death.
	And I say, It's come to it.
	These monsters who have been abusing us for so long and stealing and manipulating our elections, I believe they've been caught outright.
	I believe they're gonna be arrested, prosecuted, and punished.
	I say Donald Trump turns out to be a political genius who practices the art of war just as successfully as he does the art of the deal.
	If Biden Becomes president, we have no election system, and we have no Department of Justice.
	It's the way I see it.
	Well, look, the lockdowns are reducing the country to economic rubble, and it's by design!
	By design!
	I'm one of the businesses.
	I had to shut down.
	Cathy's Hair Salon had to shut down.
	I mean, they had a room in the back where they had shades and curtains around it, where people can actually get their hair cut sometimes.
	I'd really like people to watch the last couple of shows I've done on Need to Know, because they're all about these latest developments in relation to the election, and you'll see the evidence on which I am basing the opinions and conclusions I'm offering here, which is, of course, typical of my work.
	As you know, Gary, I don't make assertions for which I do not have evidence.
	And if you go to my latest on JFK, what happened to JFK?
	Did the Warren Report get it right?
	You'll see I just lay out all the evidence.
	I have 130 slides and of course several times show the Zapruder film and how we know it was massively edited based upon the original footage.
	Yeah, when you're 100% truth or you bring your evidence with you.
	I know you've won a debate many people and They don't even have any evidence.
	It's very sad and disappointing because, as you know, I spent 35 years offering courses in logic, critical thinking, and scientific reasoning.
	And what I do in all my work is try to instill those principles in others so they will be less likely to be taken in to be played, which the Deep State, alas, and its allies have been doing Since the agency was created, which I think, you know, as even Harry Truman acknowledged, was his greatest mistake, creating the CIA.
	Yeah, they're not slowing down at all.
	And it appears that Gina Haskell and the CIA was running the whole thing using this Dominion software, which because it's based in Canada, and because they were tabulating the vote through a Spanish company called Cilla, That an executive order the president signed in 2018 created a trap, in essence, because it allows all of the assets of any company or persons involved in an attempt to manipulate an election in the United States to be seized by the American government.
	Man.
	It's gonna be massive, Gary.
	It's gonna be massive.
	Yeah, tell me about the watermarks.
	I'm a little bit in the dark about that.
	A week or so ago, Steve Pichenik, who has very good connections with the intel community and the government, on InfoWars explained that Trump had anticipated the efforts to steal the election.
	So, in order to design a method that would enable them to distinguish authentic ballots from not, they introduced a watermark on the paper that the government distributed to the states on which they printed their legitimate ballots.
	But they didn't announce it in advance.
	The Democrats did not know.
	So when they brought in truckload after truckload of fake ballots, they had no watermarks.
	They're very easily distinguishable from the authentic ballots.
	And where Pachenik explained, they have traced every single ballot.
	They know from origin to disposition, where it was, who cast it.
	They used blockchain technology to track it.
	Now, I was very interested in getting confirmation and really put out a request to a group, and one came back and said, yes, he was in contact with the White House and they had used blockchain technology.
	And you may or may not be aware, but on Election Day, Melania was out wearing a dress with a blockchain pattern.
	She looked very fetching.
	Of course, she's beautiful.
	I mean, she's just wonderful.
	But the liberals won't even allow her to appear on the covers of women's magazines.
	I mean, it's just so insulting.
	Yeah, but Michael will get on the cover.
	It's absolutely fascinating what's going on here.
	So there's much Much that will be revealed in the next few days.
	What appears to be the case is that it will be taken to the Supreme Court, as I mentioned, and that they will invalidate the election and turn it to the states.
	And then Trump will be re-elected president, as he richly deserved.
	Because did I mention that Louis Gohmert has actually stated now that Trump actually won a massive re-election, 410 electoral votes including California, and I had been predicting that even California could go I read this time because of Governor Newsom.
	I even thought it could happen with New York because of Governor Cuomo, and Michigan with Governor Whitmer, where there's a recall in the works for Whitmer.
	And frankly, these other guys don't have a ghost of a chance of a political future, assuming Trump indeed is re-inaugurated on the 20th of January.
	So if he is, we can all breathe a sigh of relief.
	And I'll just say, doing massive reports on this every single day, that is how it appears to be headed.
	I'm still concerned about the vaccine speech the other day.
	I really am concerned about this warp speed and military being deployed.
	Here's a reason to know that That Dr. Anthony Tony the Rat Fauci really is a bad guy, who in my opinion has done more damage to the United States than all of our foreign adversaries combined.
	Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, Emperor Hirohito.
	Anthony Fauci has done more damage to the United States than the three of them combined.
	Here's a clue.
	An article was published in the journal Virology in 2005 that was extolling the virtues of chloroquine of which hydroxychloroquine is a milder derivative as a wonder drug regarding coronavirus and it not only functions as a cure if you have it but as a preventative if you don't so nobody had to die
	Anthony Fauci has known the benefits of HCQ at least since 2005, because the publication comes from the National Institutes of Health, of which Fauci himself is a director.
	And think about this, too.
	In 2017, Anthony Fauci was warning that the Trump administration would not only have to deal with a seasonal flu and HIV-AIDS, but a surprise pandemic.
	Now, how can it be a surprise if Anthony Fauci knows about it in 2017?
	And guess what?
	He's the guy who's supposed to prepare us for dealing with pandemics.
	So you can see, this is a guy who needs some What some have said, rope therapy.
	I think we have some enemies of the state who need to be held responsible for the damage they're doing to the lives and well-being of American citizens, and it's on a colossal scale.
	Colossal scale.
	We even have a photograph from two years earlier, 2015, in a biolab That may have been the NIH, where none other than Barack Obama is there with the ever-attractive Melinda Gates.
	If that's not another man, you could fool me.
	And Anthony Fauci.
	And of course, I suppose no one here doesn't realize that Michelle Obama was actually born.
	Michael LeVon Robinson even played football at Ohio State.
	adopted a female persona when he transferred to Princeton, from which I am myself a graduate, that we have photographs of Michael in Brock, where it's very obvious that Michael is not female, where her physician, during a campaign stop in Trenton, walked into her in a trailer, taking a leak, standing up, And felt the obligation to inform the world, even though it's been paid millions not to do that, that Michelle Obama is not a man who underwent a sex change operation.
	Michelle Obama is a man with breast implants and a huge shaving bill.
	So for her to be out there lecturing the world about Donald Trump is bizarre and insulting beyond words.
	Barack Obama appears to have been CIA from the beginning.
	He wasn't eligible to serve as president and a number of very prominent Democrat politicians nevertheless certified that he was eligible because they liked him as a candidate.
	And it was he who, in 2012, signed the Smith-Mutt Modernization Act, which nullified the Smith-Mutt Act of 1948, which precluded the use of the same techniques of disinformation and propaganda within the United States that were being used without, just in time to bring us Sandy Hook.
	All right, I got a question.
	All right.
	I've got different researchers that some feel, as I do, that there is no virus.
	It's a complete fraud.
	Some people believe that it's a virus.
	It may be a little stronger than normal.
	I have two or three people that I know closely that think they have it.
	They always say they lose their sense of taste and smell.
	Do you think it was a bioweapon release?
	What's your viewpoint, Dr. Pester?
	I know you looked into it as an artist.
	Well, I've spent a huge amount of time on all of this.
	It appears to have originated at Fort Detrick, Maryland, as a militarized virus that when Fort Detrick was shut down, it was carried over to Chapel Hill, North Carolina, where I taught for a year myself.
	But then when that got shut down, Anthony Fauci, with the approval of Barack Obama, spent some $3.7 million to have it transferred to the Wuhan lab in China.
	And I think that it was intended to be far more serious than it has proven to be, in part because it appears to have mutated.
	I mean, nature will continue with nature's laws.
	I published a couple of books on evolution and evolutionary theory.
	And, you know, they say, don't mess with Mother Nature.
	Well, a lot of these efforts just don't work out quite the way they were intended, and it appears to be far less lethal.
	But, if you have comorbidities, for the most part, you can diagram the deaths attributed to coronavirus, and they correspond with the normal rate of death anyway.
	So that they're just labeling deaths as being due to coronavirus when coronavirus may have had nothing to do with it.
	The foremost expose of this came from a Minnesota state senator by the name of Scott Jensen.
	Who is also an MD, and it was very puzzled that he was being pressured to certify a death of a patient who'd never even been tested as having died from coronavirus.
	It was he who exposed that hospitals were being paid $13,000 for every patient they said was COVID, and $39,000 for every patient they put on a ventilator.
	But frankly, the whole thing is overblown.
	They're really mapping normal deaths and calling them coronavirus.
	If you don't have comorbidities, the death rate is very, very small, tiny, especially for children and younger people.
	But I'll tell you what is serious.
	It's not the coronavirus.
	It's the lockdowns.
	It's the social distancing.
	It's the face masks.
	I have probably a dozen blogs about face masks and the damage they do.
	I mean, just think about it.
	By wearing a mask, You're you're rebreathing oxygen depleted air because you're breathing the air you've already used that has been used to oxygenate your your red corpuscles and therefore your brain cells and others of your body including your heart.
	So what it's doing by wearing these masks is killing brain cells, which is irreversible.
	I was projecting early on that by the time we got through this,
	there'd be an average drop in the IQ of Americans by five points.
	I now think it could be much more serious. Allow me to illustrate.
	There's a very prominent blog on the internet called Deagle, deagle.com.
	Deagle is very tied in with the military, industrial and intelligence
	complex. Deagle projects the future population of various countries,
	future population of various nations. And while most nations,
	five years hence show very modest variations up or down, I mean, you know, small percentage of the overall
	population.
	Deagle projects for the United States, moving from a present population in 2020 of
	330 million.
	To fewer than 100 million, actually 99 million in 2025.
	So in a five-year period, we're going to lose, by Deagle's projections, more than 200 million.
	More than two out of three American citizens who are alive now are not going to be alive in five years.
	That is stunning.
	I actually know someone, actually Kathy's daughter, purchased a gas detector and she performed an experiment where she put the gas detector and it was roughly 20% oxygen and then she put a mask over her child and she put it right in between the mask and went off within seconds.
	It went down to 17% within just seconds and that's dangerous levels.
	The alarm went off on it You mean at 17% of oxygen?
	Yeah, the percentage went from 20 to 17% within seconds.
	Putting it in.
	I can send that to you as an experiment.
	Yeah, I wish you would because the masks don't protect you against the virus.
	The mask can only filter if it's three microns or larger and the virus is only one micron or by some studies three-tenths of a micron and one-tenth of a micron.
	It can't filter the virus.
	So it's not actually protecting you.
	If you go onto my blog, you'll find one by a woman who I think may be the most qualified to address this issue, explain that it's actually criminal to put these masks on infants and children because their bodies and brains are growing in such a way they need lots of oxygen, and it's gonna handicap them She is projecting that in two years we're going to have a dramatic increase in dementia, because it will induce dementia.
	We have other studies there, including from the American Association of Physicians and Surgeons, Which is the leading scientific medical organization in the United States advising against the use of face masks.
	I even have a study showing, based upon 15 research reports, that face masks aren't even helpful during surgery.
	Well, when I go to the store, I get dirty looks because I refuse to wear one, I have never worn one, and I'm not going to wear one.
	Gary, that impresses me tremendously.
	That's wonderful.
	I have a very flimsy thing I'll put on ever so briefly if I go into a store with a big sign that you cannot be served if you don't wear a mask.
	But I wear it under my nose.
	Actually, if you have a health condition, which I would claim I do to justify not wearing a mask, because when I wear a mask, I can't breathe.
	That's a pretty fundamental health condition.
	A few times I was going into a Walmart, which is not the greatest place to be going in, but I was.
	And they said, sorry, sir, we're out of masks.
	I said, I'm sorry, but I'm medically exempt.
	I tell them I've got six stents in my heart.
	And if you want me on the floor in there, then, you know, give me a mask.
	And they go right on through.
	Of course, none of it is true.
	Now, another trick is in restaurants, It's funny, you have to have a mask on until you get to the table, then you take it off.
	So when I go in, I'm like adjusting it, like I'm about to put it on, I'm about to put it on, then I'm at my table.
	So, so far, I just won't do it.
	I've had people tell me...
	Then I couldn't come to their house without one, and I said, well, I won't be showing up.
	Everyone has to understand this is a monstrous scam.
	They're trying to take all of our property, all of our assets under the guise of a medical emergency.
	They're claiming they're helping us.
	They're not.
	They're stealing from us.
	They want to destroy our freedom.
	They want to destroy our lives for the sake of our children and our children's children, for the sake of the legacy of the United States.
	If January 20th comes, And Joe Biden has inaugurated, take that as the start of the second American Civil War.
	This one is for all the marbles that are playing us for saps, and we must resist.
	I say live free or die.
	Die.
	I agree with you 100%.
	There's one picture that keeps coming in my mind.
	All right, we're Imagine you're storming the beach in Normandy.
	You're running up with a high possibility of being shot.
	And then what do we have today?
	You might catch a cold.
	And you put on a mask and hide behind your computer.
	Oh no!
	Here's the most obvious tell.
	In the past, when there have been epidemics, pandemics, they isolate the sick.
	They don't isolate or quarantine the healthy.
	I mean, this is absurd.
	They just reversed it.
	The normal practice.
	Sure, quarantine elderly people who are vulnerable.
	But don't quarantine the rest of us.
	And that's because, as David Icke observed right from the beginning, this was an effort to destroy the middle class, to destroy small businesses, so we'd have to be dependent on the government so the government could control our every action and behavior.
	This is a massive scam of heretofore unimaginable proportions, but it's happening to us here and now.
	Yeah, I'd like to quote my mom.
	My mom is very, very elderly now.
	I don't think she has very long to live.
	She's been in a nursing home for almost a year now.
	And she had one thing to say.
	If I catch the virus, I'll fight the virus.
	I might win.
	I might not win.
	But don't shut your business down.
	Don't stop living your life because I might or might not win.
	I'll fight this battle.
	Live your life.
	And to me, that was one of the greatest things she ever said.
	And she's one of the, I mean, she's very, very, she's bedridden now.
	But she still said, I'll fight it on my own.
	But everything that they're doing, That's what Trump has been trying to explain to the public.
	Don't let the cure be more serious than the disease.
	But the lockdowns, I mean, and the social distancing and the face masks are having far more devastating consequences and bringing about many, many, many more times death than the coronavirus ever would.
	We just sustain it.
	You don't lock down over a contagious disease.
	Whit Humes made that observation way back when, and he's spot on.
	David Icke has been the foremost outspoken critic of the whole idea, explaining what's going on.
	They want to create A medieval society in which the rich and powerful are encased and ensconced in their castles surrounded by moats.
	Today we call them gated communities, while the rest of us are toiling as serfs and slaves in the field.
	That's what they want!
	And in the process, they want to take all our property and all our assets.
	I'll be goddamned if I will allow that to happen.
	We must all stand together against this monstrous hoax.
	And I say, Trump, I believe, will bring us through it.
	I know he's talked about the vaccines, but he's also made it clear they're not mandatory.
	My personal opinion, Gary, thinking about it, I've taken hydroxychloroquine.
	You take it together with what's called a Z-Pak and zinc.
	You know, it's taken in combination with an antibiotic and zinc.
	You could blend those together into a vaccine and deliver it as a vaccine and you'd be getting hydroxychloroquine Which has a virtual 100% success rate, and they can call it a vaccine.
	But because they're delivering it as a vaccine, it's going to be highly expensive.
	Trump has guaranteed it'll be delivered for free to the American people, as well it should be.
	But I'll tell you, the history of vaccines has been god-awful.
	God awful.
	Gates was allowed to use a vaccine in India and he wound up paralyzing 500,000 Indian children.
	They kicked him out of the country.
	He's used another vaccine in Africa and killed many, many, many, many.
	They have an H1N1 vaccine that causes brain damage.
	And probably everyone here is aware that there's been a direct statistical correlation, it's a perfect correlation, with the use of vaccines and the development of autism in the United States, whereby some projections, if we continue to vaccinate at the current rate, half of our children will be autistic by 2050.
	Yeah, talking about Pandemics in the past, Ron Paul was talking about one that happened in the year of my birth, 1957.
	And he said it was a particularly nasty flu season that year.
	However, there were a few things that they did differently back then.
	They didn't broadcast it on the news around the clock, 24-7, and they handled it through the medical community.
	And they did exactly what you were saying before.
	They sent the patient home, Stay home, quarantine yourself, wait till you're better, then come in.
	And then they reached the herd immunity.
	So the whole thing, though it was a very, very bad flu season, they handled it without the paparazzi or the media hype.
	Yeah, this is using, turning the CV into fear porn.
	They're trying to put fear into the American people so we'll cow down and kneel before the state.
	And that we'll gladly give up our property and our assets to spend the rest of our lives as slaves.
	If that's your desire, you can choose that.
	But for me, give me liberty or give me death.
	Both the World Health Organization and the CDC have admitted they're not keeping statistics on the flu.
	Why in the world not?
	Because the flu is bringing about four times or more than CV.
	It's because they're counting flu deaths as though they were caused by coronavirus.
	So everything you're hearing on the mainstream media is bullshit.
	Complete and total bullshit.
	And quickly, how about Fox turning into MSNBC?
	I mean, I can't believe what I've been seeing about that.
	Well, it turns out Rupert Murdoch has allowed his children to run Fox, and the children, unlike Murdoch, are globalists, so they've been supportive of Biden and Harris, and even, of course, called Arizona prematurely.
	I mean, that was extremely insulting.
	We'll see how all that plays out, but I just want everyone to know that with a very high probability, a massive fraud in this election is going to be exposed with very high probability.
	The Supreme Court will nullify the election and send it to the House with very high probability because 38 state legislatures are controlled by Republicans.
	There'll be a vote in the House where each state gets to cast one vote on the order of 38 votes for Trump, 12 for Biden, And this absolutely magnificent President of the United States, he's flawed, but he's the only guy I've ever seen out there actually fighting for Americans and for America, will be reimposed in the United States as the President for a second term, and by God, is he going to clean house.
	Believe me.
	If they do, the people that believe that Joe Biden is the President, and they peel that away from him, Do you think it'll give them the right to just burn the country down?
	If they try to burn the country down, we take them into prison and custody and we send them off for punishment.
	You can't tolerate law enforcement.
	George Soros has spent a lot of money getting district attorneys elected who are tools of the deep state.
	Soros is a scumbag whose greatest desire has been to destroy America.
	We cannot let that happen.
	And if we go through the constitutional procedures of exposing the fraud, if the court dismisses the election as invalid, if the procedures are followed and Trump is re-elected president by the constitutional procedures, that is the law.
	If you don't like it, you can leave.
	That is how America is governed.
	We could say more about it, but we won't do it tonight, Gary.
	It's been wonderful having you on, my friend.
	You have been a true comrade-in-arms in the search for truth, and I can't tell you how much I'm grateful to know you.
	And I'll never take a vaccine, I'll tell you that too, and I'll never put on a mask, and come January 20th, we might have to be Tighten in our belt, for sure.
	It's been a great show.
	I enjoyed it very much, Jim.
	Well, it's wonderful, wonderful to have you here, Gary.
	We should have done it long ago, but it's perfect tonight.
	So, thank you so very much.
	This is Jim Fetzer on The Fetz Presents, thanking my special guest, Gary King, for being here, and all of you for watching.

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