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Oct. 3, 2020 - Jim Fetzer
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The Fetz Presents (1 October 2020): Scott Henderson and Marcus Allen
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Okay.
This is Jim Fetzer on Fetz Presents, where I'm very pleased to have as my featured guests this evening, Scott Henderson and Marcus Allen, both of whom are experts on the moon landing hoax.
And we'll be making a presentation at the Question Everything Conference in Austin, Texas on the 7th and the 8th of November of this year.
You can check it out, the latest updates to the program.
at mixnstream.com.
Mixnstream.com.
You can find it there.
Meanwhile, today we're opening the floor to discussion of any and all topics.
I'm gonna turn to Scott first for an initiation of whatever's on his mind.
My friend, Scott.
Yes, it's a pleasure to be on your show, Mr. Fetzer.
It's always a pleasure to be invited.
And I'm very, very, very grateful.
Thank you to having Marcus Allen on with me because I need him to back me up.
He's the professional.
So tell me what you'd like to talk about.
It must be stunning to watch all these events taking place.
In fact, you'll be You'll be absolutely flummoxed to learn that it appears that the fellow who appeared in the debate with Donald Trump was not actually Joe Biden, but a body double.
This will come to you as an astonishment, but I have done a lot of research and Hillary Clinton used six or eight body doubles, including at the debates in 2016 with Bernie Sanders and even Donald Trump.
So it's amazing what goes on here.
You think Bill was using those body doubles as well?
I'm sorry?
You think Bill Clinton was using those body doubles as well?
Maybe he got confused.
He'll go confused.
Well, if you mean was he using them for his sexual purposes, uh, that, that, That was the Garwitz or whatever.
He might got confused which one was which.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, Bill was very indiscriminate.
I mean, I think he was a real horndog, as the expression has it.
And Hillary, of course, has an awful history.
I mean, I've done a recent, well, it's not so recent, but I did a recent version, an update on a Pizzagate story,
which is of course the American franchise of the International Pedogate Operation,
where she and Huma Abedin and a host of others, this James Aliphantus, but also it appears Nancy Pelosi
and a host of others have been involved in child trafficking
and child pedophilia and child sacrifice.
These are subjects that are usually treated as verboten, completely taboo and forbidden by the mainstream press.
But I'm telling you, there's a huge amount of evidence to support it, where Barack Obama, no less, You may or may not be aware, but in the vast treasure trove of DNC emails that were released by WikiLeaks,
Where Seth Rich, who was then the IT guy for the DNC and who was a Bernie Sanders supporter, became extraordinarily upset, distraught over the way in which Debbie Wasserman Schultz was sabotaging Bernie Sanders' campaign, including transferring 13 primaries that Bernie had won to Hillary's column to guarantee she would be the nominee, that with the assistance of Kim Dotcom.
A familiar internet personality.
He downloaded from the DNC server and transferred the files to Julian Assange by way of Craig Murray, the UK ambassador to Uzbekistan.
Both Julian and Craig have acknowledged they know the leaker, that there was no hacking, and that he was not Russian.
But in accordance with Assange's own protocols for strict confidence about his sources, he's been unwilling to identify Seth Rich specifically as the person, but there's a mass of evidence to support it, I've reported on it before.
And, you know, this appears to have been part and parcel of what now has turned out to be, and these are the latest revelations, although I published a book about it a year and a half or more ago, that Hillary Clinton, with the Understanding and authority approval of Barack Obama
initiated the whole Russiagate scandal by using her campaign managers
to imply that Donald Trump had ties to Moscow and was a puppet of Putin
just to draw attention away from her email scandal, her use of the private server,
not the first time she's done something monstrous because in the past, you may recall the Waco disaster
where we had a vast number of innocent women and children who were burned to death in the compound
when David Koresh was actually making daily treks back and forth into town
and could have been arrested peaceably without any problem.
The standoff was drawing so much attention away from Hillary's healthcare agenda.
Her proposals were being wiped off the front page that she put pressure on Webster Hubble By whom she actually had Chelsea Clinton, not Bill's son, a daughter.
Bill has admitted many times he fires blanks.
But Hillary had an affair with Webster Hubble who sired Chelsea.
He was then the head of the Department of Justice.
She put pressure on him and on Janet Reno to launch the attack on Waco.
She was so upset that she wasn't getting enough publicity.
This is the true character of Hillary Clinton.
And now, now, it's finally making the front page, except not of the liberal mainstream media.
They're covering it up.
But it's now being revealed in the Senate and by reports that it was indeed, Russiagate was a Hillary Clinton political hoax.
totally fraudulent.
Trump's been legitimately complaining about it for years.
And of course, the whole country was subjected to two and a half
to three years of nonstop propaganda about it, just disgusting beyond belief.
This may be coming as quite a year full.
I welcome your comments, suggestions, critique, questions, et cetera.
Scott?
Well, I'm glad I live in Canada.
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
OK.
And we've all had our Windows 10 update, and we are living in the 21st century, not the 17th century.
And that's how we look at it here.
Marcus, your thoughts?
Okay, you guys are going to start burning witches down there.
Yeah, I know, it's bizarre.
We're not going to do that.
No, in fact, I've been following most of the individuals you mentioned, all the The activity that you mentioned, the Seth Rich business, the Wiener laptop, things that were on it.
Those eight New York Police Department detectives who saw one of the files on there committed suicide.
It must have been pretty horrific for them to do that.
So I'm fully aware that there are major problems within that Democrat Party.
And they mainly centre around Hillary.
She seems to be the centre.
When you mentioned the Waco, I hadn't realised there was a link between Hillary and Waco.
But that makes a great deal of sense, that that would happen.
So, what's going to happen now?
And this, I think, would explain why Trump was so aggressive at that first debate.
I watched that over here in the UK.
It basically seemed a sort of school-boy scrap almost.
Yes, the first half in particular.
I mean, not really a political debate.
It was two people having a go at each other, but that was Trump's original idea, to get Joe Biden rattled sufficiently that he would implode, which is more or less what happened.
His language was quite uncalled for and the fact that Trump was debating two people.
He was debating Biden.
He was also debating Wallace.
What's going on there?
That's really not a particularly even debate.
It was playground stuff, which I think was what Trump intended to produce.
He was trying to get Biden knocked off course.
And there are stories that Biden had an earpiece.
He was getting instructions from somewhere.
In fact, there was one shot which showed down his, just inside his jacket, there was a little wire, which wasn't the microphone he was speaking into, because that was in front of him.
He didn't have a microphone clipped to him, which is what most people would do in that situation.
So if he was receiving instructions or answers via an earpiece, which is possible, I mean the technology for that exists, who was giving him the instruction and what were they saying?
Maybe we'll find it out one day.
Joe Biden is not only cognitively incompetent, they have given him anti-dementia medication,
which has the unfortunate side effect of incontinence.
So that a former staff member explained they have had staff meetings to discuss, to debate, which adult diaper he ought to be wearing so that it wouldn't be conspicuous in his clothing or crinkle when he urinates.
Suggesting to me he has a future after politics making commercials for Depends.
But where it's the Joe Biden has had a skull implant, they've actually implanted an electronic device that stimulates the bones and the ear canal to enable him to hear properly and take instructions.
The wire you saw, therefore, appears to be from the fact that they used a Joe Biden body double.
Now, I'm telling you, I thought there was something a little odd at the time and I did a live stream from C-SPAN where Giuseppe Giafandulo and I did a color commentary of the show and then a 20-minute analysis after the debate
And it is true that this guy didn't look quite like Joe Biden, but it didn't really seriously cross my mind until last night.
I received a video from a guy who'd nailed it, and he showed the different features.
Joe has kind of a rounded chin.
The person who smoked has a double chin.
He's got like a massive dimple in the middle.
The ears are very different.
One of them has real lobes that are detached, and the other has continuous ears into the eyes, into the side of the head.
The eyes are even of different color.
And I think he's made the case that, in fact, this was a body double, which is why they needed the wire, which they wouldn't have needed with Joe Biden.
The committee, the campaign, asked for breaks every 30 minutes and I think that was so they could change his diaper.
But the Trump campaign denied it, and I think that's when they realized they had to use the body double.
But I'm telling you, if I hadn't done all this research on Hillary and discovered she'd used six or even eight body doubles over the course of time.
I mean, I've documented this.
I did a presentation on it.
You can find various places on Bitshoot.
It's entitled, uh, Fake News Issues of Identity.
Where I go through, you know, I go through several historically important cases, including that Lee Oswald, proving that Lee Oswald was actually in the doorway of the Texas School Book Depository when the JFK motorcade passed by, which of course means he not only cannot have been the lone demented gunman, he cannot have even been one of the shooters.
Also, a case with a Sandy Hook child who's been very prominently played up because he was the most photogenic by the name of Noah Posner, where one of my research colleagues had discovered there was a striking similarity in the appearance between Noah Posner and a fellow much older, supposed to be his older stepbrother, Michael Vabner, And where six of us went to work on this and we discovered they had the same eyes, they had the same eyebrows, they had the same nose, they had the same mouth, they had the same ear, they had the same shape and size of skull, or shape of skull, but of course older, larger.
And I sent to a colleague of mine who'd actually done the work cementing Lee in the doorway by the name of Larry Rivera.
Who has mastered the principles of photogrammetry, which of course is the application of mathematics to the study of photographs.
And he created GIFs where you could see the image of the man in the doorway turn into Lee Oswald.
I'm talking about the facial features.
We already knew it was Lee based on the height, the weight, the build, the shirt, and the t-shirt he was wearing, which were the same as the height, the weight, the build, the shirt, and the t-shirt.
Lee was wearing when he was arrested, but the government and the Warren Commission always insisted this was a colleague of Lee Oswald by the name of Billy Lovelady.
Billy said himself he thought it was odd they'd be confused because he was two to three inches shorter and 15 to 20 pounds heavier.
That's an understatement.
And besides, he was actually wearing a short sleeve Red and white vertically striped shirt that was very very different than the long sleeve richly textured and worn shirt on the man in the doorway.
So we already knew it was Lee, but Larry mastered these principles and found suitable photographs to show that the features of the man in the doorway are identical with those of Lee Oswald.
So he got a gift Of the man in the doorway turning into Lee Oswald, and he created a second with Billy Loblady, and you can see the ears weren't too low, the jaw was wrong, the nose didn't fit.
So it's clearly not Billy Loblady.
So I sent Larry photographs, one of Michael Vandner, who is about 20 years old, 17, 18, somewhere in late teens, early, you know, late teens, let's say.
And of Noah Posner, without giving him any context.
He had no idea who these were, had no idea it had anything to do with Sandy Hook.
And he created a gif, and you watch Noah Posner turn into Michael Fabner.
This is, in my opinion, the most stunning proof that Sandy Hook was a hoax of them all.
Then we did, I also talked about Paul McCartney, who appears to have died on, oddly enough, 9-11-1966, and was replaced by an even better musician, who, however, turns out to be four inches taller, have different ears, different teeth and palate.
Paul had bad teeth and a narrow palate.
Paul, F-A-U-L for false or fake Paul, has normal teeth, better teeth, good teeth, and a normal palate, which was ascertained by a couple of Italian forensic scientists who set out to prove that the conjecture, the claim, the speculation that Paul had been replaced was false, and wound up confirming that it was true.
And then Hillary Clinton, in her use of body doubles, after she collapsed at the 9-11 memorial, Before the election, they took her to Chelsea's apartment, a new apartment she got in New York that she didn't really need.
She had a wonderful apartment already, but this apartment had as a part a private hospital, which they closed and
then had only one patient, namely Hillary Clinton. They took her back to Chelsea's,
but they were worried that the time delay was so great that public anxiety over Hillary's
health was going to cost them lots of votes. And they sent out a body double who was much
younger, thinner, very attractive, spry, not at all, you know, a pleasant person, completely unlike
Hillary, to whom I refer as the Meg Ryan double.
This even made it into, what, on The Hill, I think?
They said that, you know, the internet thinks that Hillary has a body double, but it was obvious this was not Hillary Clinton.
Just A few days later, she was a second body double on a flight to Charlotte, North Carolina for a campaign event.
She was shorter, heavier, more sloping forehead, remind me more of Meryl Streep, so I refer to her as the Meryl Streep double.
There's no question about this, by the way.
And then actually for the debate, they had yet another body double who is even better, much younger, much thinner, much healthier, much more appealing, who had a voice box.
They have manufactured a voice box that makes a voice indistinguishable.
And there she was.
They used her not only to bait Bernie Sanders, but they used her to debate Donald Trump, and no one seems to have noticed.
Much later, the New York Times, this was in February 2017, wrote a story about Hillary's in the house, about her purportedly having come to four different plays on Broadway, and they had photographed So I wrote to the reporter.
I said, well, you know, that was a very interesting story, but none of those were Hillary.
You know, it's just astonishing.
So I believe it was Hillary who suggested to the new Democratic Party, where it seems to me Hillary really is pulling a lot of strings, Between Hillary Clinton and George Soros, I think you've got the two masterminds who are running the present Democratic Party, and they brought out a body double.
This is not Joe Biden, I'm telling you.
It's absolutely stunning.
But they've got that voice box, so the voice was indistinguishable.
And we had primed the pump by explaining that Body language experts have noticed that when the real Joe Biden was on the stump, that he was asked a question or in a town hall or anywhere before he could be confronted.
He would get this kind of panic-stricken look on his face, and every time, when he didn't know how to answer the question, he'd put his hand in his right pocket.
There's a device that turns on the electronic transmission.
He'd look down with his eyes closed to concentrate on the answer, and then he'd look up with a smile and give the answer.
Now we were looking for that last night, and there were a couple occasions when the Biden debate figure did look down to concentrate, but it's clear he was using this wire.
You notice, Marcus, I mean this all sounds fantastic.
You can find it documented online on bitshoot and 153news.net if you look for fake news
issues of identity and you'll see all the proof there.
And now I'm doing my best to get out the fact that this appears to have been a body double.
I did not do this research, which I put up on Twitter at Jim Fetzer.
I put it up on six different discussion threads.
This wonderful video runs about 10 minutes, where he's showing that it's not Joe Biden, but a body double, and he's 100% correct.
I mean, this is how desperate the Democrats are.
It's truly disgusting.
Scott, your thoughts?
I mean, I've laid out an awful lot here.
I don't want to comment on the Politics of the United States.
Okay, it's not my forte.
I don't follow it.
I didn't watch the debate.
I didn't watch anything.
If I see it on the news, I change the channel.
I'm just happy to live in Canada.
It's getting a little cooler here.
We're into fall.
The leaves are changing and Well, let's come back to Canadian politics, where no doubt you do have an opinion.
I don't follow it either.
Marcus, are you willing to take a stab at this?
Well, I mean, from across the pond where we are here, south of London, I follow it mainly on YouTube, mainly the sort of commentators that we get on there.
One quite interesting guy, Stroppy Me, who's Australian actually, he makes some very interesting comments.
He examines the latest Q posts, or as he says now, because YouTube are censoring any reference to Q or QAnon.
So he refers to him as our friend.
Yeah.
Which I think is a very good way around it.
But he examines it almost on a daily basis, looking at what is going on in America.
And he looks at the Draining the Swamp news.
And other things which are relevant.
The sort of Michael Flynn saga that's been going on for about four years now.
James Comey.
What I didn't realize was that James Comey's brother, Peter Comey, was a major legal advisor to the Clinton Foundation.
Which tends to explain quite a lot about Jim Comey.
It does!
That's a great find!
Yeah.
Peter Comey, James Comey's brother, he's a lawyer, worked for the Clinton Foundation.
He still does, I believe.
So you've got all these sort of links between people who were trying to, I suppose you could say, deny Trump the presidency.
Yeah.
And they set it set out in a very vicious way, which is now all unraveling, because we can see the connections.
And when you hear things like Hunter Biden receiving money from the mayor of Moscow's wife, and the hundreds of millions or billions that he received from the Bank of China or some bank in China, you think, well, isn't this what is referred to as corruption?
And the common denominator is Biden.
In there is this sort of favourite uncle figure who, you know, wouldn't hurt anybody and he's got all these wonderful grandchildren that he dotes on and he's promoted as some sort of benevolent figure.
Yes.
But he spent 47 years in the US Senate, eight years as Vice President, and what are his achievements?
What's he actually done?
Yes, yes.
As the President observed last night, he'd accomplished more in 47 months than Joe Biden had in 47 years.
Exactly.
Which is... But then, Trump was never... I mean, Trump isn't a politician, he's a businessman.
And you can't spend your life as a businessman and then suddenly switch off all the ways that you've succeeded as a businessman to become a politician.
No, you bring it with you.
So he's very good at making deals.
He's very good at creating environments in which people can thrive.
And I've always found it a very interesting observation that Trump is accused of being a racist, a misogynist, a homophobe.
All these isms that people tend to throw around.
If somebody says that to people, Trump is a racist, I say, please explain what he's done to be accused of being a racist.
What's he actually done?
Give me an incidence.
And they can't.
They can't do it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And not only that, but you know, during the Republican convention, Herschel Walker Who's of course very famous as a Heisman winner and so forth, a very admirable guy.
Except how he found it insulting that people would suggest that Donald Trump was a racist because they've been personal friends for 37 years.
And that implies that he, Hershel Washer, has associated with a racist for 37 years.
That was one of many endorsements that I found quite telling and beneficial to Trump and debunking.
The idea that Trump's a racist.
In fact, he couldn't succeed as a builder in New York City if he had any racial animus.
I mean, it just wouldn't work.
No, of course not.
It's ludicrous, Marcus.
You make such a great point.
And the photographs that I've seen where there's Trump with, I think it's Al Sharpton, receiving the Ellis Island Award.
For helping people.
And he's there with Rosa Parks and Muhammad Ali.
That's right.
And Muhammad Ali.
Yes!
And if Trump was a racist, would those people have anything to do with him?
Of course they wouldn't.
I know.
So all these unpleasant epithets that are being thrown at Trump I mean, he can deal with it.
He's tough enough to deal with it.
I mean, you don't survive 30, 40 years as a New York property developer or real estate agent and build great buildings and own golf courses around the world.
You don't do that without making a few enemies along the way.
But Trump has that remarkable ability to get on with people.
Which is why he said, right in 2015, when he came down that escalator in Trump Tower, he said, look, I get on with people.
It's my job.
That's what I do.
And it makes a great deal of sense that if you can get on with people, you'll succeed far more than if you upset them.
It's noticeable that Trump's relationship with Putin has always been very good.
They've always actually got on quite well together.
Yes, yes, yes.
And the idea of improving relations with Russia is obviously admirable.
Yes.
What higher motive could one have in the interest of the United States in reducing the prospect of nuclear war with Russia?
Yeah, exactly.
That's the whole point.
Now, a question I ask anybody who starts having a go at Trump, because I support what Trump is doing.
I say, how many wars has Trump started In his nearly four years of presidency.
That's right.
How many wars?
The answer is zero.
Exactly.
I say, how many wars did... You go back to the last six or eight presidents and that's not true of any of them.
No.
And how many wars did Obama start in eight years?
He initiated 14 military ventures into Africa alone, Marcus.
14.
Yeah.
And he was given a Nobel Peace Prize when he had no reason whatsoever, nothing to justify it.
How embarrassing.
Exactly, but then what is so fascinating to look at and to see how people deal with it is Trump has achieved a considerable amount in America and he's supported right across the country.
I mean I've seen the tractors for Trump, the bikers for Trump, the truckers for Trump, the extremely large parades that have been mounted in support of him.
If he was as bad as half the people who say he is, none of this would be happening.
You know, where are the blakers for Biden?
They're not there.
Marcus, you're 100% correct.
Now, it occurred to me that because I have a show this afternoon to do, I already set up with that video clip about Biden and The debate guy showing the contrast, and also several slides talking about the Hillary doubles.
I want to share them with you.
It'll take me a second to set up, so I'm going to pause us momentarily, set it up, and then bring us back.
Yeah, okay.
Just stand by one sec while I take care of this.
I do have things set up now to share with you the evidence that there was a body double, but Marcus made the interesting point that if Joe Biden is having to wear an adult diapers, and what was your point, Marcus?
You should go and have a word with NASA and ask them what they were using for the astronauts.
Exactly!
Except that a few years ago, as I may or may not have mentioned, NASA put out an appeal for assistance with its space poop problem offering $30,000 For the assistance in a new human disposal system because the space diapers they were using then were only good for 14 hours of human waste.
And of course, as we all know, these trips were taking seven to eight days, which means that the whole story of the moon landing is nothing but a gigantic pile of space poop.
Scott, your thoughts?
Oh, exactly.
I mean, that bag that they threw out on the ground in Apollo 11, it's sitting on the ground there.
When did it go out?
Okay?
You won't see it on the video.
The door opens.
Neil comes out.
He doesn't come down with the bag, but it's on the ground when he gets there.
That's pretty damn interesting, right?
One of many glitches.
They just had a problem they didn't know how to solve, and they faked it.
And until you guys pick up on it, you know, practically no one notices.
Well, they must have landed on it, but the simulator, when they were dropping it down, they said, okay, there's the bag, slide over, set down on top of that, and we're good to go.
That's the landing pod.
Everything's a pile of crap, so just set it down there.
Right, right.
Marcus?
Yeah.
There's so much that is wrong with the whole Apollo nonsense.
I mean, you just ask one question.
What is the internal temperature of the lunar lander on the lunar surface?
Very good.
And the answer Is 120 degrees centigrade, 248 degrees Fahrenheit.
And that is not just conjecture, that's not a guess, that's a calculation using scientific formula.
Giffen, that's the temperature on Earth at that, on the Moon, in its lighted regions, would be around 280 degrees Fahrenheit.
You're making an equivalent calculation for sitting in an environment of that Temperature and the heat that would be induced in the lander.
Yeah.
Now, no human can survive at that temperature.
I mean, that's the temperature you cook your chicken at.
So if no human can survive at that temperature, they couldn't possibly have been on the moon because you can't air condition the lunar lander.
There's nowhere to dump the heat.
It's a vacuum.
The best insulator of them all.
So, NASA will try to come up with this story how they radiated the heat away using explosive decompression of water.
They didn't carry enough water to remove the amount of heat that we calculated to exist in the lunar lander.
It's just not possible.
And as for the spacesuits, good God!
They were on the surface for 7 hours and 54 minutes, I think it was.
That was on Apollo 17.
Seven hours, 54 minutes, in one spacesuit, prancing around on the moon.
How did they remove the heat?
Because the internal temperature of the spacesuit would be the same.
They'd lose their battery power as well, after 140 degrees.
Exactly.
The whole thing is ludicrous.
Well listen, you guys are so good at exposing that hoax, let me offer this evidence to contemplate this latest.
Which seems to me to be absolutely stunning.
Now let me have the real Joe Biden on the left.
Notice, as I said, the chin is rounded.
Here's a debate, Joe Biden.
So there you got the rounded, almost blocked chin.
Here you have the dimpled chin of a debate partner.
Notice here, Joe Biden's ears go upward in the way in which they're attached to his head.
Here, they go downward.
And we all know ears are just as distinctive as fingerprints.
The eye color also differs.
So here you got an initial impression.
Well, this is the video to which I made reference.
Let's see what he's got to say.
Okay.
Good morning.
Welcome to our channel.
We appreciate it.
I'll just adjust the sound.
It is the 29th of September, 2020.
And this is the debate after the debate questions.
This was a picture of the debate.
This is Joe Biden in the debate.
This is Joe Biden in the official picture.
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This is the official 2013 vice presidential picture.
Notice the rounded chin.
Notice the earlobes.
Blue eyes, earlobes, rounded chin.
Brown eyes, dimpled chin.
No earlobes.
See how it even attaches to the skin and even sticks out there?
The original Joe Biden has a little brown spot over his left eye.
This one has it over the center of his forehead, right in the crease.
Triangular face.
Square face.
There isn't anybody in the media who will do this.
Nobody.
The first question that Trump should have asked is like he did with the frazzled rat.
Who was that man that wasn't Joe Biden?
That's Joe Biden.
That's the man who destroyed America.
This is not Joe Biden.
He can tie his tie in a double Windsor.
He tied it in a single Windsor.
He can't even tie his tie.
He's a fumbling boob.
He lied constantly.
And President Trump never called him out, which is why he got so confused.
Donald Trump really wasn't confused.
He was just frustrated.
Look at that.
He's got a little black spot there and no black spot there.
Brown eyes, blue eyes.
Clear as a bell, fellows.
They used a different Joe Biden.
They used a double, a clone.
Mike Wallace was the worst moderator in history.
I've never seen anybody so lousy as Mike Wallace.
He absolutely had briefed this double on the questions.
And this double worked with Wallace to try and make Trump look like an idiot.
And this man is the original Biden.
And there's nobody who will tell the truth about that.
Not the CIA agents who are now on YouTube.
Not the reporters.
They will talk about how Trump said this and Biden says that, and Jane just wants to kick this guy in the kahunis, and I looked at the audience and they're just, one in three seats were filled.
The first two rows were filled, the rest were not.
Let me just add, he didn't mean Mike Wallace, he meant Chris Wallace, his son, who's a mediocrity.
Now, this is the Hilary Dumble who came out that I refer to as the Meg Ryan Dumble.
She was much nicer, much more pleasant.
Smaller stomach and so forth.
It was fascinating.
Here's the one I refer to as the Meryl Streep Dumble.
The views from the side are even more telling, but what could be more obvious?
This woman has a considerable overbite, by the way, in addition.
Hillary would wear a similar dress to try to pull it off, but it was not the same woman.
Here is at the debate.
Look at this.
How completely different.
Younger, more attractive, but they have this voice box.
They have this voice box that makes the sound of the voice indistinguishable.
This was even during the debate now with Donald Trump.
It wasn't Hillary.
It was, look how slim she is, how youthful, how healthy, how vigorous she appears.
So what we got going on, and this again is another of the fake Hillary's engaged in the debate.
I mean, it's stunning.
Absolutely stunning.
And they get away with this!
I mean, it's just monstrous!
Monstrous!
Marcus, your thoughts?
It's because they don't dare call them out, because the media are scared rigid about what will be found out.
If independent researchers start digging into some of these stories, which is what the media are supposed to be doing, that's what they claim to be, investigative reporters, they're not investigating anything.
So when the independent reporters, or as General Flynn referred to them, the digital warriors, get active, they start digging out this stuff, which is why it's necessary to close down so many channels, because they're exposing what's going on.
Whether it's paedophilia, whether it's corruption, whether it's financial activity.
I mean, People like Nancy Pelosi, Maxine Walters, where do they get their money from?
Because you can't buy a hundred million dollar mansion in Hollywood on a senator's salary.
It just doesn't add up.
Marcus, you're 100% correct.
Scott, seeing that evidence, are you willing to go just this far to agree those aren't the same Joe Biden?
That's definitely not the same Joe Biden.
Like I said, I'd like to stay away from the political stuff.
I'd like to go with the man on the moon stuff here.
It's the only thing that astonishes me that the United States is still able to declare itself the most powerful nation in the world when the Civil War really hasn't ended.
Elaborate on what you mean by that, Scott.
I find that intriguing.
Well, you have two separate factions that are head-to-head with each other for the last 200 years.
I don't know.
You know, I've lived in the South.
I've lived in the North.
I've lived in the Midwest.
I was born in the West.
I taught at the University of Virginia twice, once for a year, once for a semester.
I taught at the University of Kentucky for seven years.
I taught at the University of Cincinnati for a year, did a research grant for a second year in NSF.
I taught at New College at the University of South Florida in Sarasota, Florida for, you know, three years on the faculty and resided there in Florida for several more years.
I was born in California.
I taught for 19 years on the Duluth campus of the University of Minnesota.
I don't see significant differences in any region of the country.
There's no residual desire for slavery anywhere in the country, for example.
No, I didn't mean that through the population, but I mean politically.
There's that divide.
Well, like I said, I don't study it.
I don't follow it.
You know, we just happen to be neighbors.
And, you know, like, I don't pay much attention to it.
This whole effort to exacerbate racial tensions is misconceived.
I think it was the assessment of George Soros You know, the Hungarian refugee who collaborated with the Nazis by turning in fellow Jews, who has dedicated himself to the destruction of the United States.
He's gone about it in various ways, including funding what we might call progressive candidates for the office
of district attorney across the country, which is one of the reasons we get some bizarre rulings
in a number of situations, such as in Kenosha, where this young man, Kyle Rittenhouse,
shoots two thugs who are trying to kill him, and wounds a third who's holding a pistol in his hand, who
subsequently confided to his friend in the hospital that his only regret was he didn't unload on him
with his handgun and kill him, where all three turn out to be long criminal records.
The guy with a gun a felon, not even legally entitled to have a gun.
And yet the district attorney charges Kyle Rittenhouse with first degree murder, which is absurd on its face.
I mean, it's just astonishing what's going on here in So I think that it was Soros' assessment that the best way to bring about the destruction of the United States was to resurrect the ancient animus from the Civil War.
But, you know, we're so far past it.
We have so many political figures who are black.
We elected a black man president of the United States not once but twice.
Our foremost celebrities, particularly in professional sports, are 70-80% black.
I mean, it's just absurd to see LeBron James coming out and saying how blacks are treated inequitably when he's getting this fantastic salary that's equal to that of You know, probably 100,000 ordinary Americans.
That's ridiculous beyond belief.
And that Democrats and candidates like Kamala Harris are supporting Black Lives Matter and Antifa.
Do you know, Scott, that if you contribute to Black Lives Matter, It goes to ActBlue, which is a Democrat fundraising site.
They distribute the money to Kamala Harris, Joe Biden, Beto O'Rourke, Elizabeth Warren.
I mean, it's just shocking, which is why Biden, of course, couldn't denounce Black Lives Matter.
I think, frankly, the election was lost.
When you had the four days of the Democratic Convention and urban violence wasn't even addressed.
Wasn't even addressed.
Then you had the Democratic Party with a far superior virtual convention.
I mean, the production values were out of this world.
They had much better speakers, a much more appealing message.
And they addressed it indeed.
But I think the Democrats, you know, this is why it was really pathetic watching the debate of Biden trying to say that Trump was throwing gasoline on the fire of the urban violence when it's been a democratic voter registration and money laundering operation.
I mean, it's disgusting.
Marcus, your thoughts?
Yeah, exactly.
That's exactly the way it's going because Basically, the Democrats don't appear to have a message that will resonate with the average voter, the average citizen in America, whether it's in the Midwest or the West Coast or the East Coast.
They have this, whether it's a deliberate plan from the media to Emphasize all the rioting, the destruction that's going on across cities in America.
Whether that's a particular plan, I think it's backfiring because the average citizen doesn't want to see that sort of destruction in their neighborhood.
And they would do whatever they have to do.
In fact, there have been several films I've seen of armed citizens protecting property, which indicates that they are They're willing to do what is required to protect it, which is the famous phrase, what it takes to stop a bad man with a gun is a good man with a gun.
Just to underline, in St.
Louis, we had this couple with a wonderful home, both of whom were attorneys, and one of these mobs poured into their property.
They were talking about burning down their home, killing their dog, shooting them.
They came out and just ravaged their weapons.
to show they were going to defend themselves. And the district attorney didn't go on after the mob,
but turned on them to charge them with criminal offenses. I mean, it was just absurd.
And this is another of these George Soros elected district attorneys,
just as we had with a Jussie Smollett.
I don't know how closely you followed, but that was such a grotesque staged racial crime, where Jussie Smollett actually hired two Nigerian bodybuilders, one of whom was his personal trainer, the other an extra on the set where he was a television star.
At 2 a.m.
in the morning on the coldest night in Chicago to attack him with a new... Who's gonna be walking around at 2 a.m.
looking for a black gay actor to attack him with a race crime?
It was ludicrous on its face.
He had a bottle of bleach that was frozen solid.
We have videos of him buying this equipment at a hardware store.
He paid him with a personal check for $3,500 and killed Fox.
The attorney dismissed the charges against Jussie Smollett.
I mean, why?
On political grounds, she'd been contacted by Michelle Obama's chief of staff and other political figures because he's the nephew of Kamala Harris.
He's campaigned with Kamala Harris because the whole thing was a political stunt to put this anti-lynching bill that Kamala Harris and Cory Booker were sponsoring Over the line, when no one thought it was really necessary, so they immediately began talking about this as a modern-day lynching.
Marcus is insulting beyond belief what's going on here.
Well, I mean, you've just got to look at who founded the original KKK in America.
It was the Democrat Party.
Yes.
The KKK was the armed wing of the Democrat Party at the time of the Civil War.
And they haven't really changed very much.
And looking at some of the record of the voting in Congress around that time, you know, who voted to retain slavery?
The Democrat Party.
Most of the Republican congressmen wanted to abolish it and that's what it was about.
So it's the Democrat Party desperately trying to get out from under the The bad publicity they're starting to receive for their appalling behaviour towards the black population of America at the time of the Civil War.
We had a Democrat leader, he may have even been the majority leader, was a former Grand Wizard of the KKK.
And Joe Biden praised him in the past.
I mean, praising him for his political acumen is one thing, but the idea that the Democrats are somehow the party of social justice is completely, frankly absurd.
Well, that's...
I mean, that's taken from Hillary Clinton's original playbook, isn't it?
Rules for Radicals by Saul Alinsky.
Yes.
She wrote her thesis on Saul Alinsky.
That tells you all you need to know about Hillary Clinton.
Rules for Radicals.
How to basically overturn a country.
You know, I'm not sure I knew Hillary had done that.
This was at... Was she at Sarah Lawrence?
Where had Hillary gone to school, do you recall?
I don't know.
Of course, to write a thesis.
This would have been an undergraduate thesis, I take it.
Very few schools in the United States have an undergraduate thesis.
Princeton, where I graduated, had an undergraduate thesis requirement, and I suppose the Seven Sisters probably did.
And I believe she graduated from one of those.
We'd have to take a quick look.
Yeah.
Scott, would you want to just take a look on your computer for Hillary and see where she graduated?
I know you don't want to partake in a political discussion, but that would be a piece of information while Marcus and I continue to address the politics here.
Okay.
You want me to see where Hillary graduated from?
Yeah.
I'll just say on a side note, you can't freeze bleach.
Oh, you can't freeze bleach.
Oh, I thought it was so cold it would be frozen solid.
Thank you for that.
If you get down to about minus 40, you might start to do it.
Okay.
I would leave a bottle of bleach at the cottage and it'd be minus minus 10 Fahrenheit.
Okay, very good.
Very good.
Very good.
It would resist freezing.
Excellent.
Yeah, you couldn't put it in a chest freezer.
I like that.
I like that.
Very good.
I'll cease.
To make that aside, I still correct it.
Excellent, excellent.
It probably wasn't bleach, it was probably just water or something.
Or yogurt?
It was frozen solid, yeah.
Did you find Hillary's?
Was it Wellesley?
Tell us more, Marcus, about your assessment.
Uh, she was boosted.
She's listed at Yale from 1969 to 1973.
That's Yale, that's law school.
Yes, and Wellesley from 1965 to 1969.
Right, Wellesley, Wellesley, Wellesley, yes.
Marcus, your further thoughts?
What part of the country is Wellesley based in?
Massachusetts.
That figures.
Because if she was writing her thesis on Saul Alinsky... She was born in Chicago, October 26, 1947, at the Edgewater Hospital.
So she was based in Chicago, which is where the Frankfurt School decamped to from Frankfurt, from Germany.
Decamped to Chicago, so she had been influenced by that If she was brought up around Chicago and became politically active probably quite early.
Because if you're going to write your thesis on somebody as controversial as Saul Alinsky, you need to know why he was important and what is important.
And she appears to have followed a lot of the behaviour that Saul Alinsky was emphasising from that time on.
I first started taking notice of what Clinton was doing from the Whitewater events in Arkansas, where you had Amena Airport, you had these mysterious deaths going on.
Kids being murdered, and it became knowledge that they had observed something going on at Mina Airport where drugs were being unloaded.
This was all under the auspices of the Clinton governorship of Arkansas.
So he would have been very well involved with that, with the importation of drugs.
There was a British journalist called Oh, I forgot his name.
He wrote quite an interesting book about the whole Clinton body count.
Well, that was part of the book.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Which is around 200 at this point in time.
Yeah, it was about 50 at that time, and it seemed to be increasing.
I thought, well, what's going on?
Why is Clinton being accused of all these really quite unpleasant events?
Who was the close friend of Hillary Clinton who disappeared?
An attorney, I think he was.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, found shots.
Vince Foster.
It was even suspected that they had an affair.
He appears to have actually been found dead even in her own office and then they moved him to this national park where the body would be found.
D.C.
Dave, Dave Martin has published extensively about the death of Vince Foster and this appears to be a prominent member of the list on the Clinton body count.
I think maybe he wasn't wanting to go along with all the charade.
I mean, you know.
It could be.
Henry appears to have political ambitions.
Far more powerful ambitions than Bill did.
Hence her running for President and why she became Secretary of State.
She wanted to get into the top echelons of power.
Yes, yes.
By the way, you mentioned the mean of Arkansas.
It turns out The records for the MENA drug dealing of Bill Clinton were stored at a Murrah building in Oklahoma City.
Right.
The destruction there was actually to enable them to remove the records so that in the immediate aftermath, where the whole front facade of this massive building was destroyed, including a daycare center, which led to the death of a lot of children and adults, The first responders were carrying out boxes of files rather than tending to the dead and wounded.
Yeah.
This appears to have been a Hillary operation to protect Bill and to advance her political career.
And if you want one more that's more speculative, but I think not at all implausible.
If JFK Jr.
was actually thinking of running for the Senate from New York, which was the seat Hillary wanted then, You have a very plausible explanation for the plane crash that took his life and that of his wife and her sister off of Martha's Vineyard when he was flying in.
And by the way, he had broken his leg recently.
It was still in a cast, but he always flew with a pilot, a co-pilot.
He didn't have to.
I think he was even instrument qualified but he always did fly with a co-pilot and the long delay in the search and bringing the Rafiq up to the surface may have been to get the pilot, the co-pilot out so that it wouldn't be obvious that this had to be a deliberate explosion and couldn't be attributed to pilot error.
But is JFK Jr.
still around?
Well, that's a very interesting question, isn't it?
There's this figure who has been showing up At Trump rallies, in the background, positioned to be captured in the camera.
What is it?
Vincent Fuchsia is his name?
That's right.
And they have another figure there who appears to be his wife, and she looks pretty more clearly his wife than does this Vincent Fuchsia look directly like JFK Jr., but he's in some kind of disguise, a wig and whatever.
Can you believe the van, the recreational vehicle he was driving was recently involved in a bizarre automobile accident?
Now, he appears to have survived, but I mean, that could have been an attempted hit.
Marcus, this is now, we're talking, you know, very broadly and somewhat speculatively about a number of issues here, which we're not asserting with the same kind of Confidence and assurance we have from our work on the moon landing or Hillary's doubles or other of these issues.
But it's fascinating stuff.
And if I had to guess, I'd say with a fairly high probability, these claims turn out to be true.
The JFK Jr.
thing, I got to admit, is to me the most baffling because I paid a fair amount of attention at the time to the accident.
And I even had an independent report That John John had traveled to Canada to an airport outside of Toronto to visit with a guy from I think it's called the Megacorporation who supposedly had information he wanted to share with him about the death of his father and that while he was visiting
That a pilot instructor at the airport and his father, who is a notorious hitman for the Jewish mob, Put explosives into the plane that could be, you know, set off remotely and where it looks as though the tail of the plane was blown off as it was coming into Martha's Vineyard.
But I mean, I already had that story from a source that appeared to me to be highly, highly reliable.
So, you know, this is really fascinating stuff.
Not quite tabloid, but you know, interestingly, the tabloids today are giving you more accurate information than the New York Times.
Oh yeah, well, New York Times is... I mean, that's run now by an ex-British journalist, so that's all you need to know.
It's just embarrassing, Marcus.
I mean, this is still the nation's newspaper of record.
So what you read in the New York Times is supposed to be the official history of the United States.
I've long since Referred to it as the Langley Newsletter because it's so much influenced by the CIA and its policies and attitudes.
But would you believe, I have a panel I have a panel of 100 executives from CNN, every one of whom is a dual U.S.-Israeli citizen.
I have another panel from NBC of 100 executives, every one of whom is a dual U.S.-Israeli citizen.
I have a third panel from the New York Times, another 100 executives, every one of whom is a dual U.S.-Israeli citizen.
I have been baffled Why, it appears from surveys that American Jews are not supporting Donald Trump, but they're actually supporting Biden.
And I asked a friend who's very, very astute with a great grasp of history why this should be the case, when Trump, after all, Moved the American embassy to Jerusalem, implying it's the capital of Israel.
Claimed the Golan Heights is Israeli property when everyone knows it's Israeli-occupied Syrian territory.
Defunded the UN-Palestinian, the refugee organization assisting the Palestinians, even, in some ways most grotesque of all, by executive order.
Redefined anti-Semitism to include criticism of Israel or the actions of its government, which is a violation of the First Amendment.
I mean, if the Democrats wanted to impeach Donald Trump, they could do it by violating his oath of office by that very executive action, and they'd have something.
I continue to support Trump, but I'm a very severe critic of his foreign policy.
So I asked How under these circumstances could American Jews not be supporting Trump?
And he wrote back and said that's because Trump has only given them 90% of what they want.
And they want someone who will give them 100%.
They want him to nuke Iran and he hasn't been willing to do it.
Does that make sense to you?
It certainly makes sense because Israel would certainly perceive Iran as being their major competitor in the region.
Now Trump has signed the peace treaty, or got the peace treaty with the United Arab Emirates on the books.
I think there are going to be several more.
We're being advised that there will be future surprises in the peace deals.
I think Saudi Arabia are going to come on board.
But don't forget that Trump's first foreign visit back in November, when was it?
In November 2017, maybe a bit earlier than that, his first foreign visit was to Saudi Arabia.
Why did he go to Saudi Arabia?
Because he was greeted there in a way that no previous US President had ever been greeted.
There was a particular ceremony to do with swords, especially welcoming a foreign chieftain.
That's the highest degree of respect that Saudi Arabia could display.
That's right, yeah.
So they were prepared to do that on Trump's first foreign visit.
Now there are various other reasons behind it, not least of which was the financing of the child trafficking that came out of Saudi Arabia.
Very soon after Trump's visit to Saudi Arabia, the Saudi Arabian princes were arrested and imprisoned in one of the hotels there.
About 100 of them altogether.
It was basically to cut off the financing of the human trafficking.
Because that was where most of it appeared to be coming from.
I'm so proud of Trump for his efforts to destroy pedophilia networks.
It's going on here in the United States, but it's getting very little publicity.
But I have every reason to believe that it's going to come down with a hammer after the election.
I mean, whether he wins or loses, believe me, he's going to take massive steps here, which have been in the works for quite a while yet.
I think he finds all this disgusting beyond words.
I think any right-thinking person would agree with you on that.
And I think a lot of people were just not aware of the extent of the problem.
They're now becoming much more educated, much more aware of just how deep-seated this whole paedophilia child trafficking is.
Because it went through the whole entertainment business, went through Hollywood mainly.
Because their drug of choice was not heroin, it was adrenochrome.
Which you can buy online now, you know.
You can buy it online?! !
Yes, you can.
For anyone in our audience who do not understand the nature of adrenochrome, this is blood that's been enhanced by adrenaline, which they secure by, for example, taking children and putting them in a state of such awful fear that their bodies just pump this massive quantity of adrenaline, and then they are sacrificed and drained of blood to drink it.
To rejuvenate themselves, where Nancy Pelosi, Hillary Clinton, and a host of others, so far as I can see, virtually all on the Democrat side, are involved in this consumption of adrenochrome.
Some of us have speculated, Marcus, that they were going to revive Biden by giving him a transfusion of adrenochrome.
It's quite possible.
But it's interesting how far back in history this whole business goes.
I mean, that's where the stories of vampires come from, where the Mayan sacrifices of children to the gods come from.
This idea that human blood has particular properties is something that has permeated throughout history.
It's now becoming public knowledge as to what the real story behind it is.
And because the story is so horrific, like how it's produced, that many people just cannot confront it, cannot deal with it.
Which is understandable because it is a horrific story.
But if you look at the number of missing persons in the United States, it's about 800,000 in a year.
Britain has the second highest, it's 200,000.
Where do these missing people go to?
How do we know?
Some of them do get recovered, they're quite reasonable stories that somebody's just wandered off somewhere and they turn up a couple of days later.
And intermittent runaways, but the vast majority appear to be kidnapped for these sordid purposes that are disgusting beyond words.
And there's a strange link with the national parks.
Where a lot of people go missing in national parks in America.
What's going on there?
What's that about?
Is it to do with the legislation that applies within the national parks?
I don't know.
I'm not an expert, obviously, on that.
But if you follow the missing children, you follow the idea of what's happening as regards this whole Adrenochrome child trafficking story.
Little things sort of crop up periodically and it's noticeable that since the arrest and imprisonment of Ghislaine Maxwell, Jeffrey Epstein's partner in crime.
Procurer.
Since her arrest and imprisonment, obviously she's been out of circulation.
There have been a huge number of reports coming up of children being rescued right across the United States, quite a lot in Ohio for some reason.
Ohio seems to be a centre of this.
But right across the States there are half a dozen children, the biggest number I saw was 39 children rescued.
What were they being rescued from?
Who are they being taken from?
Who is holding them?
What's going on?
It's not being reported very widely.
It's not being reported in the Mockingbird media.
Do you think the Queen may be giving them information about where to recover the children in order to, you know, reduce the severity with which she is dealt personally?
I think that may well be the case, that she's giving up information.
She's been in prison now for, what, about six months, I think it is, something like that?
Yes, that's right.
And she doesn't have a support network around her anymore, because once Epstein disappeared... She's a strange woman, Ghislaine Maxwell.
Her father was Robert Maxwell, who was a publisher of quite a lot of newspapers in the UK, until he rather conveniently fell off his boat and drowned.
There's been speculation as to why he managed to fall off a boat that was named the Ghislaine Lady Ghislaine, that was the name of the boat.
And was the body ever recovered, Marcus?
Yes, it was recovered.
He was buried with full Jewish honours on the Mount of Olives in Jerusalem.
Wow!
But there is speculation as to what on earth was going on, because he owned these newspapers and there were pension funds in those newspapers, obviously for the employees, there were several hundred thousand employees.
And Robert Maxwell had basically borrowed the money.
Well, he'd stolen it.
And there was a major row about it at the time, and there was legislation that was passed to try to ensure that the people who were going to miss out on their pensions because of his activity wouldn't do so.
So that was a major activity.
His two older sons, Robert and Kevin, were prosecuted For knowing what was going on and doing nothing to stop it.
They were basically disgraced as a result of it.
But Ghislaine was his favourite daughter, hence the name of the yacht, the Lady Ghislaine.
And Robert Maxwell is a very interesting character.
He came out of He came out of Eastern Europe and basically joined the British Army, became an intelligence asset for the British military forces.
But most of his work was done for Mossad.
He worked quite closely with Mossad, the Israeli intelligence service.
So there are some strange and rather unanswered questions.
About Ghislaine Maxwell, are you aware that she was not only a helicopter pilot, but a submarine pilot as well?
These are not things that your average person qualifies as, unless they need to do the activity involved in piloting a submarine or piloting a helicopter.
Yes, like the transportation of kidnapped children for sexual abuse, sex trafficking, You know, she dated Bill Clinton.
I mean, this is really astounding.
And in the Jeffrey Epstein mansion, there's this huge photograph or painting of Bill Clinton in a blue dress.
I think he was wearing red pumps.
The Daily Mail got a copy of it and published it.
I got to tell you, Marcus, the Daily Mail does a really good job of publishing stuff the U.S.
media won't touch.
Yeah, they do.
Very weird picture, that.
Very weird picture.
First time I saw it, I thought, what's going on?
Bill Clinton in a blue dress with red pumps.
What's going on?
I know!
We think the blue dress is for Monica, you know, where during one of their trips, a sample of his semen was deposited thereupon.
Well, what goes around comes around.
Sorry.
Scott, I know we're talking about things that you're not disposed to address.
Is there anything you'd like to add about anything we've had to say here in the last several minutes or so?
No, actually, you see, like I said, I stay away from American politics.
I find it amusing, to say the least, and I am very happy to be living in Canada.
Well, listen, let me take another pause momentarily.
I want to pull up the promo for the Question Everything Conference, and we'll talk about what you'll be presenting there.
I'll be right back.
I pulled up the announcement for the conference, Question Everything, which will be held in Austin, Texas on the 7th and 8th of November at the Hilton Garden Inn.
And where you can learn more by going to MixedEndStream.com, right here, you can pull up the whole program.
And I'm very pleased to say that my guest today will be presenting on the moon landing and how we know we didn't go.
Scott, why don't you just give us a thumbnail sketch of some of the key elements of how You know, you and Marcus and Randy Weaver have been able to establish that the moon landing was a fraud.
Well, I have studied the documents, videos, and photographs for many years now.
And, uh, and I still continue to do so.
I spend, uh, probably three, four hours a day just on the photographs alone, as well as any of the new features.
And if you, and if you really start looking at what's happening in the last 50 years, the studies and the documents and the testing of materials in particular, okay, that they've been using in the vacuum chambers.
When you're looking at the photographs, And you see what's in the in the photographs.
Those items, both metallic and non-metallic, do not survive very well in a vacuum.
Okay?
And there are photographs Uh, in the official record that shows styrofoam and styrofoam, you can do that in any little vacuum chamber and you can see what happens to the styrofoam.
Just put a styrofoam cup in it and just turn it on and see what happens to it.
It just, it blows apart or falls apart.
It just blows up like a balloon.
Really?
There's styrofoam in there.
And like, that's just like what you can buy for a vacuum pump.
That'll take you down.
It, uh, unless you're spending thousands and thousands of dollars on equipment, uh, you know, you're, you're barely at the edge of space.
Like to a, to our value of 10 to the minus three is like 60 miles off the surface.
Uh, that's, that's not even, uh, a proper test.
Uh, the Glenn Research Center in Sandusky.
You can't certify a spacesuit in that environment.
As a matter of fact, they've never tested a spacesuit in that environment.
minus six, which is equal to 130 miles from the surface of the Earth.
OK, you can't certify a spacesuit.
In that environment, as a matter of fact, they've never tested a spacesuit in that environment, in
that because that's that's like testing a deep sea diving suit in a Mr.
Turtle pool.
Is it ridiculous, Scott, that the evidence is so overwhelming from so many directions that this whole thing
was an enormous fraud, a hoax, in fact, until the coronavirus.
Bye.
I believe the moon landing would stand as the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the public, but it's now been exceeded by many orders of magnitude.
Nevertheless, we learn a lot from a mass allusion such as that we actually sent a man to the moon I'm so glad that you and Marcus will be participating.
I want everyone to know that you do not have to travel to Austin to participate in the conference.
Sign in on pay-per-view, very reasonable from the comfort of your own home.
So I encourage you to go to mixinstream.com and check it out the 7th and 8th of November.
There's going to be fabulous stuff on Sandy Hook, on the coronavirus, on 9-11, on JFK.
Check out the program, it's astounding.
I want to thank the two of you for being here with me today and give you the opportunity for any final thoughts.
Scott, first.
Well, when we're talking about the moon landings, I mean, Human race has always been inspired and has a desire for adventure, to find out new things.
I mean, the desire to travel to the moon is very great.
And of course, the dream is very real.
The dream is very real.
But did I mention how... The reality is quite a bit different.
We do not wish to accept that we have limits.
Yes, yes, yes.
How a NASA spokesman, this may have been about seven years ago, and I think the president needs to catch up, announced that the greatest obstacle to a manned mission to Mars, which Trump has said he endorses, is the Van Allen radiation belt, evidently not realizing that purportedly we had transcended that obstacle as long ago as 1969.
And then there's the diapers.
And of course the diapers are a space poop problem, yeah.
Marcus, your final thoughts, my friend?
I have especially appreciated your political commentary, completely respectful of Scott's reluctance to diverge into non-scientific areas.
Marcus, your final thoughts?
Because Canada is a lot closer to the United States than the UK is.
Just because we all speak the same language doesn't mean to say we have the same views on it.
But let's leave that because, was it 240 odd years ago you kicked the UK out of the USA?
You said, get lost, you know, we're not interested.
We want to be independent, which is what you did.
But, you know, we don't hold it against you.
Maybe it was the right thing to do.
And there are people who still say that Britain controls America.
I'm not sure that's correct.
I haven't seen very much evidence for that.
What Scott says is very true about wanting to explore, and that's what Apollo, or the moon landings, were supposed to be about.
Exploration.
You've all heard of Charles Lindbergh flying the Atlantic in 1927, first solo flight.
Look at all the things that have happened as a result of that.
Extraordinary achievement in air travel.
Space travel is a lot harder than air travel, because Space doesn't have anything in it until you put something in space to have a temperature.
Then it has a temperature.
But you can't put an aeroplane in space because there's no air there.
There's nothing to hold the thing up.
So you need a rocket.
But you've also got to take account of how to protect humans in that really quite Dangerous environment, because humans are very delicate little creatures.
You know, we're designed to live under air pressure, 14.7 pounds per square inch of air pressure.
When we go up into space and there's no air pressure, we've got to take our pressure with us.
The one thing we can't take with us is air conditioning.
Because there's nowhere to dump the heat.
When you've got an air conditioner running and it's cooling your house, the heat is dumped outside into the atmosphere.
In space, there's no atmosphere.
You can't dump it anywhere.
So the question I asked is, what is the temperature of a spacecraft on the lunar surface?
We're told that man has landed on the moon when he landed in a lunar lander.
What's the internal temperature of that lander?
And the answer is quite simple.
About 150 degrees centigrade, 250 degrees Fahrenheit.
Humans can't survive at that temperature.
So what was done to ensure that humans could survive?
They never went to the moon in the first place, that's how they survived.
Because they couldn't be protected.
There wasn't the technology around at the time, there isn't the technology around now to protect humans at that level of temperature, let alone the vacuum And vacuum is a real killer.
Here on Earth we have air pressure of 14.7 pounds per square inch pressing down on us on all sides, internally, externally, and we don't notice it because we're designed to operate under those circumstances.
You start looking at how to humans to survive without that pressure.
And you've got to take a lot of precautions.
And if there is a vacuum, which is what space is, it's a vacuum, there's nothing there.
Had we gone, we could not have come back.
I mean, the miniscule propulsion system they had available from the Moon to return to Earth could never have attained escape velocity even on Moon.
Only about one-sixth gravitational attraction of Earth, but it would have required about 5,000 Mile an hour escape velocity compared to 25,000 to escape from Earth's gravitational atmosphere.
The size of the spaceship was larger, the rocket to go to the moon was larger than the Statue of Liberty, much smaller actually than Wernher von Braun had suggested, which have been Larger than the Empire State Building, he thought we needed a fleet of three.
Well, this little minuscule thing we had left for the ascent stage from the moon and so forth could never have packed the energy necessary, so had we gone We could never have come back.
One more reason, one more nail in the coffin at the Moon Landing host.
And Marcus, I appreciate your observation.
I believe it was Sir Winston who said we are two great nations divided by a common language.
Yes, it was.
And he had an American mother, don't forget.
And he was born in a palace, Blenheim Palace.
He was a great man.
He had his faults, as we all do, but he's remembered as possibly the greatest Briton of the 20th century.
I wonder who will be the greatest Briton of the 21st century?
Excellent question, Marcus.
On that, we shall conclude our conversation.
This is Jim Fetzer on Fetz Presents, thanking Scott Henderson and Marcus Allen for being here.
We've taken unusual, unexpected detours.
I'm sure you're going to enjoy it.
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