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Jim Fetzer: Jeff Rense Fired Me For This Show.

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	This is Jim Fetzer, your host on The Raw Deal.
	I have two special guests tonight.
	Things have become extremely interesting.
	the phone number of course to call in at the top of the hour is 717-300-1698. 717-300-1698.
	Just to review the bidding of some of the developments over the weekend and in the past few days, Scott Bennett and I did a project Camelot in interview with Kerry Cassidy for two hours and 20 minutes on the Las Vegas shooting.
	You can find it online under Vegas Shooting Updates, Fetzer and Bennett.
	I used some 90 slides, so you can really review the evidence for yourself, explaining why, when you put all the pieces together, Where the medical evidence is decisive, in my opinion, we are forced to the conclusion that this was a theatrical event.
	What happened in Las Vegas was a movie.
	It had extras.
	It had audio special effects.
	It had visual special effects.
	It also had unknowing participants, who were the vast majority of the 20,000 who were there for the concert, unknowing that they were infested with, I'm going to guess, 100 to 200 Crisis actors have been recruited by Crowds on Demand, a Los Angeles area PR outfit that specializes in innovative events.
	So that while the vast majority, right, the 20,000 or more, all but a handful, were enjoying the music.
	These are people, 90% of whom would have been Trump supporters, 100% Second Amendment supporters.
	When they start hearing the sound effects...
	...of shooting taking place.
	Whether or not they noticed any of the flashing lights that were actually being exhibited from the Mandalay, not from the 32nd floor, but from the middle of the hotel, the fourth floor, very repeated regular flashes corresponding with a belt-fed machine gun above it, several floors, perhaps as many as ten, three-shot bursts typical of military weapons in this day and age.
	The combination led the crisis actors in the crowd to react as though they were being shot at, to scream, to yell, to talk about bullets, maybe some to fall down.
	I've hit, my God!
	Well, the other 20,000 aren't going to sit around and ask, you know, my goodness, could this be some kind of fakery or fraud?
	They're going to react as one would in a theater if somebody called out, fire!
	You're going to head for the exit and you'll wait and see later, you know, what was really going on.
	So there you have two hours and 20 minutes.
	Fetzer and Bennett, a Kerry Cassidy interview on Project Camelot.
	It's been pretty popular.
	I think within a few hours it already had 30,000 views.
	So I expect there's going to be more to come.
	In addition, let me see, was it?
	Yes, on Wednesday, October 18th, I was on the Power Hour.
	That's yesterday morning.
	Gee, it seems like an eternity now.
	The third hour.
	And I just laid it out.
	I explained how we have, you know, a lot of videos where, in fact, a correspondent of mine, Anastasia Smith, has gone through 33 of the videos, and she's found a lot of the sound of bullets, but she's seen no actual strikes of bullets.
	Interestingly, the one case that she believed was the most realistic turned out also to be discussed by a military general surgeon of vast experience who wrote to Paul Craig Roberts.
	And while explaining his background, no doubt more extensive than anyone else who will ever review the case, he observed that the patients in the hospital were actors and the wounds they claimed to have were fake.
	They were showing none of the symptoms, the colossal effects of being hit with a high-velocity round are so serious that many die from the trauma rather than from the effects of the wound.
	His observations extended to what he thought was the greatest piece of fraud, namely when this young man, who's supposed to have been shot in the leg, who happens to be the one that Anastasia Smith thought was most realistic, gets out of bed and stands for President Trump to get in and greet him.
	Well, the general surgeon observed, you know, this is absurd.
	If you've been shot in the leg, you certainly don't, you're not only unable to get out of bed so soon thereafter, but you'd have no inclination.
	And he even said he found it difficult to imagine that President Trump could not be in on the deal, realizing it's fake.
	I've heard, incidentally, that because this is the biggest, the best, the most, and all that, that it's really in Trump's style, right?
	If you're gonna fake a shooting, he's gonna want it to be the biggest, the best, the fakest, whatever, you know?
	Well, in addition, we have an American trauma surgeon who called in to compliment, you know, meaning fill out what the general surgeon had reported with nine key points about why all these alleged victims in the hospital are fraudulent, including that they're not even hooked up to the diagnostic equipment that would be necessary if this were real.
	I mean, that's pretty damn telling all by itself.
	Now, I therefore recommend, and I've got quite a bit of feedback from the Power Hour, if you could find the Power Hour archives for Wednesday, October 18, 2017 for Hour 3 and check it out, because there you'll get the most condensed.
	I have done thousands and thousands of interviews, but I'll tell you, I was at the top of my game for this interview.
	In other words, putting it all together in a very concise fashion, covering the key bases.
	There it is.
	One hour.
	It's actually, I think, maybe 57 minutes on the power hour for Wednesday, October 18th, the third hour.
	Now, in addition, I have reported that a Facebook friend had posted on my Facebook page And her name is Dolores Marie Malloy Dryden.
	I contacted these three hospitals, all of which are the closest emergency facilities from the alleged shooting.
	Spring Valley Hospital, AMG Specialty Hospital, North Vista Hospital.
	I asked if they could check their registry for a gunshot victim taken there from the mass shooting at the Mandalay Bay Hotel.
	I received the same reply from each facility.
	There were no gunshot victims admitted to this facility.
	You may want to check with local police.
	One woman said, if you are referring to the crisis drill that everyone keeps calling in about, I'm sorry, there were no real gunshot victims.
	That was just a drill.
	If you don't believe me, call him yourself.
	Here are the phone numbers.
	Spring Valley Hospital 1-702-BABABABA.
	AMG Specialty Hospital 1-702-BABABABA.
	North Vista Hospital 1-702-BABABABA.
	1-702-BABABABABA. North Vista Hospital, 1-702-BABABABA.
	So I did.
	I took it upon myself.
	I called them.
	I said I was a reporter and that I just wanted to verify whether they had any gunshot victims admitted.
	And Spring Valley Hospital, apparently, she's got the word and said, I cannot comment.
	She said, no comment.
	And I said, I'll take that as a no.
	Thank you very much.
	I called AMG Specialty Hospital, North Vista Hospital.
	They both confirmed no gunshot victims admitted.
	Now, Dan Cromer, who was my guest on Tuesday, who's a completely brilliant guy, was the first to suggest to me that, in fact, they had used the audio system for the concert to broadcast the sound of the shots.
	And I've got Dan here, and I'm going to bring him in in a minute after I make a couple more points.
	But just for you to appreciate who Dan is, he has a master's degree in information science and technology, a BA in journalism, a BS in mass communication, Interestingly, this case in Las Vegas is quite a lot of BS.
	Have worked professionally in radio and television journalism and engineered hundreds of music and other live events.
	Currently, information and technology professional and audio video engineer.
	In other words, what I'm saying is Dan is just the perfect guy to make this assessment.
	Now, In addition, we know that the FBI wipe the cell phones and the laptops from those who are involved, witnesses there at the scene, which of course is the destruction of justice and, you know, the destruction of evidence and the obstruction of justice.
	The FBI.
	I mean, this is embarrassing.
	How anyone under these circumstances continue to believe that this is real is beyond me.
	And yet, I find that Jeff Rents, who of course owns this network, and who first invited me to join Rents Radio about two years ago, has written, said actually last night during his third hour, I hate to tell you this, but there are people that are trying to suggest that all the gunfire never happened, that it was just a recording playing through the PA system through the speakers.
	22,000 people at the concert.
	Not only that the gunshots are fake, but fake actors, fake blood, nobody got shot.
	I think what this is designed to do further confuse those in the middle.
	That's so radicalized and ludicrous to one end that it's going to pull some people off center, that they're just not going to know what to believe.
	According to Jeff, this is divide and conquer.
	He adds, one person wrote, somebody wrote and said, somebody called into the hospitals, they claim they called three hospitals and the ER people said we did not treat any gunshot victims here.
	Well, of course they are going to say that.
	They have been told to deny all inquiries about everything.
	Of course they're going to say that.
	They're not going to release the names and give pictures of the wounds and wounded.
	Well, I gotta say, this is the first time, you know, that Jeff Rantz would imply that I'm some kind of disinfo op.
	He hasn't studied the case very thoroughly, although I gather he has played again and again and again the audio tape.
	Which was pre-recorded!
	It was pre-recorded!
	And I'm very glad to have back Dan Cromer back here on The Raw Deal to talk about further research he's conducted.
	Dan, I want to say I've been so glad to have you on the show on Tuesday.
	You did such a splendid job and I'm very eager to have your updated report because in a case like this, There's going to be more evidence, more information coming out and it's going to tend to confirm that people really were shot or that people really weren't shot and I don't think there's an in-between.
	The idea of a hybrid event is just not tenable because you can't hire crisis actors at 20 bucks an hour and put them in the middle of a crowd and then shoot them.
	If that happens, there's going to be hell to pay lawsuits, the whole thing's going to be blown up, so they cannot do that.
	They are there as extras or actors on the set, and you go from there, it's either all fake or it's all real.
	And of course, we all know an enormous number of reasons believing it's all fake, which leads me to wonder how in the world can Jeff Rents continue to believe that it's real?
	Dan, Dan, welcome back to the show.
	Hello, Jim.
	Thanks for inviting me back, and you know, I totally enjoyed it being with you on Tuesday night.
	So, you know, I appreciate it all, and appreciate all of the work that you've done on this event, and you know, of course, many, many others.
	So that's why, to me, I don't understand This notion that you're some kind of disinfo-op.
	I mean, if anyone is not, it's you, you know?
	In my opinion.
	Well, I've been at this about 25 years, and I've published 11 books in the conspiracy area, 4 on JFK, 2 on 9-11, 1 on the plane crash that killed Senator Wellstone, another on Sandy Hook, another on the Boston bombing, another on Orlando to Dallas, Another on the moon landing.
	I must be missing something, you know, but there are 11 books that I would think would have established my credibility and integrity by this point in time because in every one of them I bring together experts.
	It's not just my voice.
	This is not just my opinion.
	But I'm bringing together experts from fields in which I am not an expert.
	I mean, in JFK, I brought together a world authority on the human brain who was also an expert on wound ballistics, a PhD in physics, also an MD, board qualified in radiation oncology.
	One of the physicians who was in trauma room number one when JFK's moribund body was brought in and then two days later was responsible for the care and treatment of his alleged victim.
	I mean, you know, we've been blowing apart the government's account again and again and again and again, so if I'm some kind of disinfo agent, Dan, I must be the most incompetent in the world.
	Yeah, if you are a disinfo agent, you're not doing a very good job at it because you're exposing the truth.
	I mean, it's ludicrous to make that suggestion.
	You know, I think it's the folks in the alternative, you know, so-called alternative media that own stations in these empires and have financial interests at stake are the ones that are most likely, right, to compromise the truth.
	You know, people who are selling, you know, Brain Force and Caveman, you know, products.
	You know, I think those are the ones that, you know, those are the folks that are most likely to be compromised somehow, you know.
	And obviously, even on that level, you know, you don't fit that bill, of course.
	And, you know, we exchanged a few messages today, and I mentioned to you It's disappointing to me because we're just all here after the truth.
	That's what we want, is the truth.
	And we all agree, right?
	We all agree that the official narrative is just completely bogus.
	It's illogical, right?
	So with that being said, then we're just all here theorizing investigating and trying to find the truth.
	And it's just disappointing me when people's egos get in the way of this.
	Dan, let me read the last paragraph of one of your messages to me today because it's the specific reason I wanted you here.
	Also, I have continued to examine this shooting audio with professional audio software, and I believe my findings support the idea that it was fake and played through the PA system.
	Again, based on the relative volume of the concert, it's simply too loud to be real.
	Also, a new finding.
	The audio quality is stunningly good.
	Too good to be real.
	I mean, it sounds like high-resolution quality, 24-bit, even taking into account the standard recording devices used to capture it.
	The detail and sound staging is stunning, given the obvious impression of multiple shooters, weapons, and locations.
	I think they overdid it, just as they often do with these events.
	Go back and listen to the taxicab audio.
	Too good to be true.
	Yeah, that's it.
	I know I mentioned to you, we may have discussed on the air on Tuesday, the relative volume.
	The sound of gunfire should not be louder Then an outdoor concert that is projecting music for, what, a crowd of 20,000 people?
	I mean, these are loud events.
	This is concert volume.
	Why would any, you know, assault rifle be louder than that?
	It's competing with drums, vocals, guitars, bass guitars.
	You know, when we analyze audio, we're talking about frequencies.
	And when we load these, you know, these are frequencies, these are vibrations.
	And when we load these into audio software, you see visually what you hear.
	Um, and I'm, and I'm looking at, um, these shots, you know, well, the, say, the taxi driver shots, I've, I've looked at those, and, uh, the, the thing, and these were, you know, these new findings that you just referenced, the quality is amazing.
	I mean, it sounds like a Hollywood movie.
	Uh, could that be because that's what it is?
	You know, I mean, you know, call me crazy, but maybe that's why.
	Here's the other thing that stood out to me.
	The volume, the relative volume of what are clearly different types of guns, and I think everyone, you know, agrees on that, agrees with that, right?
	One gun is attempting to be In another location, yeah, it sounds like it's in another location, but it's relative volume is Virtually the same as the gun that sounds like it's right on top of us And that's what I meant by that Overdoing it.
	It doesn't sound natural to me a gun in the distance especially from the 32nd floor Would not be nearly as audible as they are in these recordings.
	I mean, these recordings are, you know, pristine, considering, you know, they're coming from cell phones, you know, cell phone devices, mobile devices.
	You know, the quality is amazing.
	And then, two, here's another example of that.
	There are moments where you hear, clearly hear, two different types of guns.
	You know, one is a fully automatic, and the thing's just spraying bullets.
	And then, at the same time, you hear what sounds like, you know, maybe rifle shots.
	And the frequency range is totally different.
	You know, the rifle shot is this lower frequency, almost like a bass.
	You know, frequency.
	And they're shooting at the same time, presumably.
	And the volume's about the same.
	And again, that doesn't make sense.
	Because anyone who's shot different guns knows they all have different volumes.
	They're not all the same volume.
	And especially if they're supposed to be different shooters and different distances.
	Different locations.
	Yeah, I mean, basically, I can summarize this by saying, you know, we're led to believe by these recordings that we have different guns, multiple shooters in multiple locations.
	And when you stop and analyze this and listen closely, look at the waveforms.
	It doesn't reflect reality.
	It just simply doesn't.
	You know?
	It sounds like a movie that's going for ultimate sensationalized impact.
	And I think that even these screams and these yells, you know, this kind of background sound, is even suspect.
	I wouldn't be surprised if they blended that in.
	Because when we look at the footage, We don't see what we hear.
	I see a lot of people just standing around looking at their cell phone.
	Dan, hold that thought.
	We'll be right back with a second special guest tonight, too.
	Dan will stay for the duration.
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	You know, USA Today, as I previously explained, published photographs and biosketches of all of those who were alleged to have died at Las Vegas.
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	We had photos of 20 kids and 6 adults from Sandy Hook, but the school wasn't even open.
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	No plane crashed in Shanksville.
	No plane hit the Pentagon.
	The planes that we saw on the videos in New York were faked.
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	So the question becomes, what happened here in Las Vegas?
	Now, before I introduce my second guest, I'd just like to make a point that a story has appeared dated October 18th, 2017.
	Las Vegas coroner's office on lockdown.
	Why would the coroner's office in Las Vegas be on lockdown?
	Why would the coroner need protection if Paddock is dead and was the only shooter?
	Well, the obvious explanation is the coroner would be the repository for the autopsy reports and the death certificates.
	He's closed because there aren't any bodies there.
	Because nobody died.
	If you want further evidence for how they're doing it in this case, I'm very pleased To introduce Mona Alexis Presley, who's been studying the various cases.
	Mona, I'm just so pleased that we have been in contact and you've been undertaking the research agenda you're pursuing now.
	Oh, thank you so much for asking me to be on tonight.
	I've been listening to you for years, ever since I woke up.
	It was 9-11, that was my wake-up call.
	I've been listening to you.
	I seek out all of your information and shows.
	You are always right on.
	I agree with you 100% of the time.
	I can't remember a time that I disagreed.
	Well, Mona, I think our audience is going to be dumbfounded by what you have been discovering about the various victims.
	So why don't you begin with a half a dozen or more cases and tell us what you're finding?
	Well, I haven't been able to research everything.
	It takes so long to just look into one person, but I did a general sweep of a few people and I discovered that eight of them have two completely different obituaries and
	They're probably the ones that are real, and I've discovered that they really died, but they died on the 1st or the 2nd.
	It's not consistent with the news reports that they all died on October 1st.
	Some of them died in different states, and some of them died at different days, and some both.
	And those are the people that I think are really real, that really died, but they didn't die at the concert.
	And then I definitely think there are a lot of them that are made up.
	I look at the pictures of all of them together, and it's amazing how, you know, the Photoshop they did at Sandy Hook?
	Yes.
	They did the same thing here.
	The exact same thing.
	You can see the resemblance in some of these people.
	They have made up some of the characters.
	Why am I not surprised?
	Why don't you start with a few cases like Christopher Roybal?
	Why don't you begin with him?
	Well, he died on October 2nd, not on the 1st.
	The obituaries have already been changed, but when you go to do a search In the, when you're searching the web, you know, to find out what there is, they cannot change those titles that the post was initially, what it said, you cannot change that.
	So, most of these people that I found have What their obituary really was, and like with Christopher Roybal, it said that he died in California.
	And I noticed a pattern, too, that a lot of these people are from the same place in California, Riverside, or what is the other?
	I can't remember.
	It'll come back.
	This was in Corona.
	He died in Corona, California, in this case.
	Correct.
	That's where he died.
	But a lot of them are from the same place.
	Just far easier there.
	I mean, Southern California has a big population, so people are dying, you know, a good number of Every day.
	So what they have to do is just find ones that they can convert to be the dead from Las Vegas.
	It's just truly disgusting what this government has been reduced to, Mona.
	I'm just stunned.
	Go right ahead because I know the audience wants to hear more specifics about more specific cases.
	Well, I think a lot of them are from California because That is where the crisis actor's business comes from.
	Yes.
	And I think a lot of people are volunteers and they're the gun control fanatics, you know, the ones that... So they're happy to help the government.
	They think they're doing us a favor.
	They're doing America a favor by lying to us.
	You know, because the goal is to take our guns and to totally control us.
	So, um, they're okay with that because they think they're doing us a favor.
	They probably think they're saving our life by trying to get our guns taken away.
	But, um, okay, let me find this.
	Yes, just to say a few more words that Christopher was born on October 9, 1988 and passed away on Monday, October 2nd.
	Christopher was a resident of California at the time of passing.
	At a closer look on the internet about Mr. Roybal's death, this heading and description was found in the search engine page.
	It was either missed by the production company that put together the shooting But I believe you cannot change the headings, only what's in the article or OPIT.
	The heading was, Christopher Roybal dies on October 2nd, 2017 in California.
	So they couldn't change that.
	Here's a second, Heather Alvarado.
	Mona and I like that because Heather is one of the cases I mentioned on the air when I went through a sampling from USA Today with its Yes.
	It said that she passed away October 1st in Enoch, Utah.
	all of which were so touching.
	Yes, it said that she passed away October 1st in Enoch, Utah.
	Yes.
	And they weren't able to change that.
	That was posted by the Southern Utah Mortuary in Cedar City.
	Right, it was another heading of an electronic publication they were unable to alter, Heather Alvarado Obituary, Enoch, Utah.
	Legacy.com Yes Right Right, right.
	Notice in this case there was an error in the actual obituary where they must have tried to take out the real place she died, Enoch, but instead accidentally kept it in and listed her name twice with the word Enoch in between.
	I think you got it exactly right, Mona.
	Right.
	It's those little details that people usually do not look at.
	We're not going to win this war trying to wake people up by showing them evidence.
	In the seven years I've been doing this, it's a psychological battle.
	It definitely is.
	And the government has, I think they have stepped up, because they have all the tools, money, everything to manipulate the American people.
	They've done a really good job at making the ones that are awake look like we're not.
	Here's a third.
	Susan Smith, 53, was the third victim to have found to have not died at the concert in Las Vegas.
	The obituary was changed to say she died in Las Vegas, but the rest of the obituary does not talk about any shooting death and also asks for donations to the Cancer Society, suggesting rather strongly she died of cancer.
	Right.
	I think they were able to change the beginning inside the obituary that says that she died October 1st in Las Vegas, Nevada.
	Right.
	I think they were able to change that.
	They just couldn't change the heading in the search engine for Legacy.com again that says Susan Smith passed away on October 1, 2017 in Simi Valley, California.
	Very good.
	Yeah, I'm looking at right here.
	Susan Smith Obituary, Simi Valley, California, Legacy.com.
	Susan Smith passed away on October 1st, 2017 in Simi Valley, California.
	Funeral home services for Susan are being provided by Rose Family Funeral Home, Simi Valley.
	Then you got Sandra Casey.
	The fourth victim who wasn't a victim but did die.
	She passed away in Vermont.
	They're expanding their reach.
	They've got to find enough victims, 58 or whatever, so they've got to go all over the place to get one who died to honor about the date they need.
	And if it's not in the right locale or not the right cause of death, which of course it can't possibly be in there unless they actually had been at the concert, had been killed by the firing taking place there, they're going to just make it up.
	Sandra Casey obituary, Manchester Center, Vermont legacy.
	Passed away, Sandra Casey passed away on October 1st, 2017 in Manchester Center, Vermont.
	Funeral home services for Sandra being provided by Brewster Shea Funeral and Cremation.
	Oh, I love it!
	No, no, this is just wonderful!
	I know.
	It's so hard to, you know.
	I can see where people think that we're crazy because this stuff is so extreme.
	Well, as I've mentioned before... Right there on the internet.
	Yeah, as Hitler and his propaganda minister understood so well, ordinary people are used to small lies, you know, what did you do last night, right?
	What happened to that $20 bill or, you know?
	Have you been seeing your girlfriend again?
	You know, ordinary people are used to small lies, but the idea of perpetrating a big lie, like over 500 people wounded, 58 wounded in a mass murder in Las Vegas during a country and Western concert, that boggles the mind!
	Right.
	And I cannot believe how it's divided, the truther movement, It just, you know, when I saw it happening, it was like, wow.
	They've even gotten us to fight with each other.
	Well, you know, it's interesting.
	I felt that Jefference and Mike Adams, both of whom I hold in high esteem, had simply been taken in because they didn't consider that the basic evidence upon which they were relying, namely the audio tape, might itself not have been authentic.
	I mean, in this case, it's very interesting As Dan has observed, they were relying on recording of what was already a pre-recorded tape that was of very high quality.
	And I suspect one of the reasons they made it of such high quality was so it would be distinct even on the lower quality cell phones and so forth that would be capturing it at the concert.
	It's like the Warren Commission... Have you heard of the... Go ahead.
	Have you heard of the LRAD?
	The military uses it.
	It's the LRAD.
	It's a long-range acoustic device.
	I'm not sure I have it.
	Tell me about it.
	Yeah.
	It's called a sound cannon.
	I saw a video about it.
	The military uses it and the sound can be used as a force.
	It can tell somebody to stay away or to give different messages by The sound it puts out, and you know what you were saying, how clear it was, like it was right there next to you, that's what the LRAD does.
	It makes people think that, you know, whatever they're hearing is right there.
	Yeah, yeah.
	That's why you got the report that people thought there were gunmen right there in the crowd, because that's what the sound made them think.
	Yeah, you know, you're right.
	Yeah, sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt there.
	No, I want you Dan, I want you, go ahead.
	Yeah, she just brought up an excellent point because this is, what she's referring to is a technology.
	During my research this week, I saw, it looked like a TED Talk, it wasn't, it was basically a promotional video for this device.
	Which she's explaining, where it gives this illusion that sounds can be emanating from virtually anywhere, when in fact they're not.
	I'll pull that up Jim and send that to you later this evening.
	You can look for it now and we can talk about the second hour when we have callers calling in.
	Let me just say that the defenders of the Warren Commission Use the autopsy x-rays of JFK to discount the reports of 20 witnesses including six or eight at Parkland Hospital that JFK had a fist-sized blowout at the back of his head.
	I mean, we had witnesses in Dealey Plaza who saw his brains blown out of his head.
	Beverly Oliver, the babushka lady, being a prominent example.
	We had, you know, physician after physician at Parkland talk about this blowout at the back of the head.
	We even had FBI agents talk about it.
	But because the x-ray didn't show it, they were discounted on the ground that they must have been wrong.
	The fact is that the dismissal of their reports was predicated on the assumption that the x-ray was authentic, which David W. Manteek
	MD PhD was able to disprove when he entered the National Archives in late 1992 and discovered using a technique from physics known as optical densitometry that there was a region in the x-ray that had been patched using material much too dense to be human bone and when you define the region it corresponds to what the diagrams that we had from a couple of the physicians
	At the time, and to what I discovered in frame 374, that those who were editing the film at Overlook, you could actually see the blowout in frame 374.
	It looks a lot like a cashew on its side.
	I had Charles Crenshaw, MD, draw the wound for me when I published Assassination Science, and it was astounding.
	For me to learn that none of the physicians had asked by the government to describe, to draw, what they had seen.
	So I had Crenshaw draw the throat wound, which was a simple clean puncture wound, before and after the tracheostomy incision, which was just a straight line through it, and then the wound at the defect at the back of the head, which he drew from both the back and the side.
	So it was this fist.
	If you took your fist and doubled it up and put it to the back of your head, that's where the blowout occurred.
	And they had patched it to dismiss the other witnesses.
	So, you know, it's really fascinating what we're getting into, the ways in which they're trying to manipulate the evidence by having, in this case, an audio tape that is easily presumed to be authentic, as in the case of Jeff France and Mike Adams.
	I don't fault them for that.
	It's simply that, you know, when it comes to doing this, I've been in it for 25 years, And know that the crucial aspect is to authenticate the evidence itself on which you're arresting your case because once you sort it out, once you get the x-ray straight, the evidence of a second bullet to the head, that the diagram of the brain isn't of JFK's brain, that the Zapruder film's been altered,
	You begin to eliminate suspects because the KGB couldn't have extended its reach into Bethesda Hospital to alter x-rays under the control of medical officers of the U.S.
	Navy and the Secret Service.
	The mafia couldn't have got its hands on the Zapruder film in order to subject it to extensive alteration.
	Castro, Fidel Castro, he couldn't have, you know, caused the Secret Service 15 indication that is setting him up for the hit.
	I mean, once you get the evidence straight, you can really do a straightforward job of eliminating so many of the suspects, and it narrows to a very small group that focuses on the American military, the CIA, the Secret Service, and right at the center of it, Lyndon B. Johnson and J. Edgar Hoover.
	So here I think we're finding, once you realize this is a sophisticated audio tape that was fabricated, once you realize the FBI is wiping the cell phones and the laptops clean, you step back and ask, well who had a motive for doing this?
	Once you find That James Murren, who is the CEO of MGM, which holds Mandarin Bay, sold off 80% of his stock before the incident, anticipating it would drop and he could buy it back and make a tremendous profit.
	That George Soros put a $42 million short.
	on MGM and Mandalay Bay.
	I mean, you begin to understand what's going on here.
	It's not pretty, but it has the singular virtue of being true in contrast to the account we've been fed.
	Mona, go ahead.
	Yeah, give us another example.
	How about Sandra L. Casey, Mona?
	She looks like a nice example.
	Yeah, the one that passed away in Vermont.
	She was in Vermont, right.
	So the next one would be Brendan Stewart as the fifth victim to have died at a different location and also on a different date.
	Brandon Stewart, obituary.
	North Las Vegas, Nevada.
	Mona, you're just doing a sensational job.
	Angela Gomez the 6th and a long line of mistakes made in obituary notices for places and dates.
	This is just terrific stuff.
	And what I want everyone to think about, what is the probability that this was a real shooting, when you have falsified obituaries for individuals who didn't even die there, when the coroner's office in Las Vegas is mysteriously on lockdown, When we have, you know, medical experts determining that the patients in the hospitals are actors and their wounds are not real.
	When you have the three closest hospitals reporting no gunshot victims admitted.
	I mean, when you had a super abundance of victims like this, those hospitals would have been flooded had this been real.
	So what's the probability of that evidence if it was fake versus what's the probability of that evidence if it were real?
	That's how you need to think these things through.
	We're coming up on the break.
	Let me mention, by the way, that Jeff Rents, though he doesn't usually listen to my shows, I'm sure he's listening tonight.
	He's got a three-hour show of his own tonight.
	I would normally be appearing the second hour, but he's got a fellow named Holland.
	I don't actually know this guy, but Gary Holland, he's going to have him on for two hours, and I'm sure he's going to do his best to rebut what the arguments I presented because he's taken me to task for having presented them in the first place.
	So I want to encourage you to listen in to Jeff and Gary Holland and see if, in your opinion, they overcome the evidence that we're discussing here and now.
	We'll be right back.
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	This is Jim Fetzer, your host on The Raw Deal with my special guest Dan and Mona.
	I just want to add a couple more observations about the beneficiaries.
	Three weeks before the event on 4chan, a fellow named John explained what was going to go down and how they were going to move to put these scanning machines in all the casinos And all the hotels in Vegas, and they were going to move to put them in all the schools and hospitals and malls around the country, where the Chertoff Group and another OSI Corporation make these scanners.
	They stand to earn billions from it.
	So, you know, we knew three weeks in advance you can see it's coming.
	Sheldon Adelson was identified as throwing in on this.
	He was going to make sure he put them in his hotels.
	Remember, these are very dangerous machines.
	In fact, a lot of them were taken out of airports because their safety was indeterminate, as I pointed out before.
	A columnist writing in their support said it only delays you by 30 seconds.
	As though that's a small time interval to enhance your safety.
	But, when you go to a dentist, before they do a millisecond exposure to your teeth to create a dental x-ray, they cover your body with a lead vest.
	That's not happening here with these body scanners.
	Who knows how much damage is done to the human body.
	Here's another point about the absurdity of the whole situation, that they can't get their story straight.
	There's been the timeline change, raising questions about hotel security.
	We have this fellow by the name of Jesus Campos, who is supposed to be a security guard, but it turns out in Nevada, all security guards have to be registered, and when the registry was checked, his name was not on it.
	That he was supposed to have been shot in the leg.
	He was officially in the beginning credited with stopping the 10-minute assault by turning the gunman's attention to the hallway where he was checking an alert for an open door in another guest's room.
	But officials changed that story to now claim Paddock shot Campos before the mass shooting, firing some 200 rounds down the hallway, and now they don't know why he stopped his attack.
	But look at the absurdity of the idea of firing 200 rounds at high velocity in a luxury hotel and nobody noticing.
	I mean, this is so stupid it's beyond belief.
	Not only that, They say that Campos has disappeared, but guess what?
	He turns up on the Ellen DeGeneres show.
	He's not only on the Ellen DeGeneres show, but he's changed.
	He's put on quite a bit of weight.
	He's not wearing his glasses.
	His face is fatter.
	I'm telling you, they did their best to find a suitable double.
	But even on the DeGeneres show, he still had the original story about how he stopped the shooting when he came to investigate rather than the earlier version.
	This is embarrassing in the extreme.
	And just to tell you, another potential, which warrants investigation, I received photographs from another of my communicants observing that there's a striking resemblance between Jesus Campos and the husband of the woman, the two Islamic fanatics at San Bernardino.
	And just to mention, not only is there a striking resemblance, I'm looking at two photographs right now as I speak, but we turned up the Craigslist ad for extras in San Bernardino, where there was going to be food, transportation, some speaking roles, going call date on December 1st, going live on the 2nd.
	I mean, believe me, How credible is any of this?
	Just ask yourself, what's the probability of having a guy who looks sort of like but not the same as Campos be identified as Campos on Ellen DeGeneres and give the story that they've already revised?
	Not only that, but he also noticed that when on the Degeneres Show, although he's giving this heartfelt story, and you can hear a lot of applause from the audience, the camera never pans to take in the audience, suggesting it was actually done in the studio with no audience present.
	They added the applause.
	In other words, it's another theatrical production, just like the shooting itself.
	Okay.
	We have three callers so far and I expect we'll have more.
	Remember the number to call in to speak to Dan or to speak to Mona or to speak to me is 717-300-1698.
	717-300-1698.
	Phil from West Virginia.
	You're on with Dan, Mona, and me.
	Phil.
	717-300-1698. 717-300-1698.
	Phil from West Virginia, you're on with Dan, Mona, and me.
	Phil.
	Phil, are you okay?
	When she said they were trying to divide us all with everything, She...
	That was Jeff Rantz.
	Jeff Rantz said that I was... Well I know and I love Jeff Rantz.
	And I think he's doing a great job and I know you're doing a great job too.
	The investigation ain't done yet.
	I would love to see President Trump unrelease the documents of the JFK.
	Yeah.
	Would you like to see that?
	Well, what many Americans don't realize is this is the tail end of the requirements of the JFK Records Act that was passed in the wake of Oliver Stone's film, which generated a resurgence of interest, passed by Congress, created a five-person civilian board entrusted with the authority to declassify the documents and records held by the CIA, the FBI, Office of Naval Intelligence, other agencies,
	And George Herbert Walker Bush, undoubtedly because he himself had been involved, he was actually, on the basis of our research, supervising a hit team in the Daltex.
	He was arrested coming out, which was witnessed by a deputy sheriff who made a report, which is in the record, taken downtown question, then released in photographs standing in front of the book depository, which was published in Jesse Curry's JFK assassination file paperback book, which was published in Jesse Curry's JFK assassination file paperback book, distributed only at 7-Eleven stores when he became the head of security after retiring as chief of police for
	Where I may have been the first to identify that that was George H.W. Bush standing in front.
	The fact is that it passed over his opposition.
	He refused to appoint the members.
	It had to await 18 months for the Clinton administration to get organized and appoint the members, but they've already released 20,000 documents, millions of pages, including that Ford had redescribed the wound to the back, which was actually five and a half inches below the collar to the right of the spinal column.
	Which they were claiming was the uppermost back to the base of the back of the neck.
	So they could claim that the bullet entered the base of the back of the neck, came out the front of the neck to account for the entry wound in the front of the neck, and then entered John Connolly to perform all these miraculous feats because of which it's known as the magic bullet.
	But David Mantic took a patient with similar chest and neck dimensions to JFK and created a CAT scan, plotted the official trajectory.
	It turns out not even to be anatomically possible because cervical vertebrae intervene.
	So when you have these reenactments on by ABC or the History Channel or Discovery and they have a stand-in for JFK, a model they claim to be lifelike, it's missing a crucial feature, namely A backbone, which is ironic because the reason Jack was killed was because he had a backbone.
	The one record we know right now they've released that's new is it turns out that Earl Cabell, who was the mayor of Dallas at the time of the JFK visit, joined the CIA in 1957.
	So that's significant in and of itself.
	The most important are the files for George Ioannidis, who is a PSYOPS expert for the CIA, who appears to be involved in both the assassination of Jack and of Bobby, too.
	Hell, is there more you'd like to ask?
	You know, there's been an appeal made to Trump because only the president can halt this release.
	But the CIA obviously is going to be profoundly embarrassed, and they still don't want Americans to know what everyone knows, I think, who's ever seriously studied the case, that it was a conspiracy, an elaborate conspiracy and cover-up.
	Well, that's what I kind of think was going to happen with this.
	You mean with Las Vegas?
	Yeah.
	Well, the thing is, Phil, there's been such a huge public response.
	There have been hundreds of videos, hundreds of blogs.
	I mean, anyone who's taken a serious look at this is absolutely baffled and dumbfounded because they don't even have a coherent story.
	Look, they can't even get their timeline right with Jesus Campos, who's misappearing, and yet he can turn up on the Ellen DeGeneres Show, and they still don't know where he is.
	I mean, this is ridiculous.
	Phil, do you have a question?
	That's all.
	I love you guys.
	Keep doing the good work.
	Thank you, Phil.
	Thank you.
	Dan, you wanted to add.
	Go ahead, Dan.
	Yeah.
	And, too, it's important to note, you know, you're talking about Jesus's disappearance.
	He disappeared for Hannity and then magically reappears for Ellen DeGeneres.
	Right.
	Read between the lines there.
	It's the perfect touch.
	And it doesn't appear to be the same Jesus.
	It appears to be a stand-in, a body double.
	Yeah, I agree with you.
	I believe it's a body double, and I was looking closely at this, and there are two, you know, our original Jesus has two moles on the left side of his chin, and they are not there with the Jesus that appeared to Ellen.
	Well, you know, and you could argue, well, maybe it's the TV makeup, But then there's all of these other things about his appearance that you pointed out that doesn't jive with, you know, the Jesus number one.
	So that's something that really stands out when you look at the two side by side.
	There's two very distinct moles on the left side of his chin.
	He even forgot his glasses because the Jesus of Las Vegas wore glasses, but the Jesus on Ellen does not.
	Right, and then Jesus in San Bernardino had the glasses.
	That's right, that's right.
	Right, so they would want to take the glasses off for this, not to draw attention to that fact, just to try to mix it up.
	Excellent point, excellent point Dan.
	Yeah, go ahead.
	And let me add this, this is stunning.
	I found the clip that I mentioned earlier.
	And I encourage all of your viewers, all your listeners, to check this out.
	It's Woody, his name is Woody Norris.
	Woody Norris, N-O-R-R-I-S.
	And his presentation, this is on YouTube, is Hypersonic Sound and Other Inventions.
	And this is a TED Talks Um, video.
	And I pulled up the clip that I want to play this for you, and this, I believe, will blow everyone away.
	Check this out.
	This is a short clip.
	Go for it.
	Okay.
	We've got the military that just deployed some of these into Iraq, where you can put fake troop movements a quarter of a mile away on a hillside.
	Or you can whisper in the ear of a supposed terrorist some biblical verse.
	Seriously!
	You heard that, right?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	The military is one of his primary customers, and they've already been using this.
	That's right, just as they appear to have used an airborne holographic projector in New York to project the image of planes that disappear into a building that a real plane would have found impossible to penetrate.
	We have another caller, Miles.
	Miles in Maine.
	Miles, you're on with Dan, Mona, and me.
	Miles.
	Good evening, Uncle Fetzer.
	Yes.
	I just wanted to tell you, you know, I caught you Sunday night with Robert Riebold, and man, was that a knockout show!
	You guys should be doing that once a month or five months or something, because that show, that show was really captivating, to say the least.
	But I had a question for a guy just like you, because I think he'd be the best guy to answer this.
	And, you know, I've been thinking about all this stuff, and, uh, I'm just wondering with all these double composts and these different people, these scenarios, various shooters, various types of ammunition and windows knocked out here and more of them somewhere else.
	Why hasn't anyone called for a grand jury on this?
	That's an interesting question.
	I don't know who has the authority to call for a grand jury, but you're right.
	I mean, it looks as though the legal aspects of what ought to be a serious investigation, if this were all real, are simply not taking place.
	I mean, I'm telling you, when you have the coroner's office on lockdown, What's the deal?
	They're giving the CIA enough time to fabricate phony death certificates and autopsy reports on people who didn't die or who died somewhere else?
	I mean, this is really embarrassing.
	Our government has become so corrupt and spends more time lying to the people and then covering up their lies than it does solving problems or bringing justice to American citizens.
	Well, and like I said, a grand jury, I think, you know, when you get this many unsolved and conflicting questions from the hospitals, another, another question that was going through my mind continuously, you know, on any of these gun crimes, since first of all, you have the federal government in there for what reasons we don't know, but why hasn't the ATF commented on these guns?
	I mean, if these guns were legal and if they were actual machine guns, You know, he's had to pay a tax on them.
	He had to acquire them somehow.
	So if they were actual machine guns, I don't believe at all that it was this bump fire system at all.
	Some gyrating device that's supposed to launch a .223 NATO round 400 yards.
	every NATO round, 400 yards.
	I don't believe any of that.
	And I just, why hasn't, you know, it would seem like law enforcement would be checking with the ATF And I just think there's so many questions.
	And I asked myself, why wouldn't there be a grand jury on with this much open conflict and purely erroneous record keeping?
	I mean, prior issue, I just don't see why somebody hasn't called for one, the governor or anybody, except, you know, unless you really, you know, gotta say.
	It's just one corrupt... In Charlottesville, the mayor of the city ordered the Charlottesville cops to stand down so the governor could use the state police to channel the peaceful protesters, who even had a permit, into a violent confrontation with the Antifa and Black Lives Matter people that George Soros had brought in, typically on the same bus.
	I mean, it's that bad.
	It's that corrupt.
	In Connecticut with Sandy Hook, it went all the way from Barack Obama to Eric Holder to Daniel Malloy to the school board to the Connecticut State Police who actually conducted the op.
	We got 50 photographs of them furnishing an empty house to serve as the Adam Lanza residence and another 50 of them refurbishing the school to serve as the stage.
	Those photographs were taken by the Connecticut State Police.
	It's that bad.
	Miles, I want to thank you for calling.
	I want to thank you for calling.
	Excellent.
	I wanted to add one thing.
	I wanted to add one thing, Doctor.
	You know, with all this going on, and this isn't even including the Clintons and all this other nonsense and the pedophilia people and all this.
	Yes.
	What is Jeff Sessions?
	I mean, what is he, just a prom queen up there?
	He's just there for looks or show?
	What is he?
	Who, who, who?
	Jeff Sessions.
	Oh, Jeff Sessions.
	He just told Harvey Weinstein.
	Yeah, he just told Harvey Weinstein.
	I mean, he just told Roth, whatever his name was, he could investigate himself.
	I mean, is he going to say that to Harvey Weinstein?
	Yeah, you know, I'm not up on, I've been so absorbed with Las Vegas.
	My wife was explaining about these four soldiers who were killed in Niger and where we don't even have the story of what they were doing there, how they were attacked, that Trump didn't handle the phone calls right.
	And it was all coming as news to me because I've been so absorbed with this other story.
	Working to get it right.
	So you're raising some question I can't answer.
	I saw Al Franken mercilessly beating up on this very gentle guy, Jeff Sessions, who, you know, he was trying to make him confused.
	Sessions had already excused himself from having anything to do.
	His sense of propriety and principle is so great he excused himself when he didn't have to.
	I mean, I'm telling you, the Democratic Party has disgraced itself over this Russian hacking thing, which we know was fabricated.
	The book Shattered, published by two investigative journalists who follow the Hillary campaign, published just this year, revealed that John Podesta and Robbie Muck made up the Russian hacking mean out of whole cloth within 24 hours of Hillary's concession speech in order to distract attention from the inadequate campaign they'd run and to divert from focus on the contents of the WikiLeaks releases.
	So we got a whole lot of smoke and mirrors going out there with Las Vegas is only the latest and one of the most spectacular of them all.
	Miles, I thank you for calling.
	Keep up the good works.
	Thanks.
	Thank you, Miles.
	Thank you very much.
	Frank in North Carolina.
	Frank, you're back on the raw deal.
	Frank, are you there?
	Dr. Fetcher, I may never get the opportunity to ask you again.
	I'm assuming I'm on air now.
	Did you go through jungle warfare training when you were in Okinawa?
	No, I didn't go through jungle warfare.
	I was an artillery officer in the Mortar Battery, 1st Battalion, 12th Marines, 3rd Marine Division.
	We pulled operations in Japan twice, in Korea, in Formosa, in the Philippines.
	I was never in country.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Okay, sorry.
	That's okay.
	I apologize for bringing it up.
	I don't want to waste your time.
	No, no, no, Frank.
	What do you think about Mona and Dan?
	Aren't they blowing you away?
	Well, yeah.
	The last caller was referring to the acting FBI director, Rubenstein, I believe.
	Oh, yeah, Rubenstein.
	Yeah, right.
	I heard the recording.
	That Rubenstein has enough integrity, he has enough faith in Rubenstein that he can investigate himself.
	I kid you not, I heard it myself.
	Yeah, that's just ridiculous.
	Dan, yeah, you want to add to that?
	That's the entire attitude.
	The government has that attitude anyway.
	They govern themselves.
	They investigate each other.
	That's why nobody ever goes to prison.
	That's why there's never any indictments.
	I mean, it's always the same thing.
	I haven't seen anyone get arrested, ever.
	Well, look at 9-11.
	I mean, that's all you gotta look at is 9-11.
	I mean, all the congressmen are on board with the official narrative of that.
	Hey, I did have a concern, though.
	Something was brought up Tuesday night.
	Uh, right towards the end of the show, and this is someone that I had had some experience with and had ruled this person out as either mentally ill, quite mentally ill, or a disinfo agent.
	And the name, I don't recall the first name, but it was Goldbug.
	Dallas Goldbug, yeah.
	Ed Chardini is his name.
	He uses the handle Dallas Goldbug.
	I'll tell ya, just to illustrate, he's a guy who specializes in figuring out similarities in appearance and that somebody you didn't realize is actually somebody else.
	One of his positions, and this was to me the bottom line, is that Jimmy and Rosalynn Carter actually JFK and Jackie years later.
	I mean, I tell ya, that's Dallas Goldbug.
	I mean, he was saying that Obama was Ronald Reagan.
	I mean, all kinds of crazy stuff.
	Ronald Reagan and Blackface!
	I love it, Frank.
	I love it.
	Stick around.
	It's all because of the earlobes.
	Frank, we're going to a break, but if you stick around, I'll give you a chance for another question on the other side of the break.
	We'll be right back.
	We'll be right
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	This is Jim Besser, your host on The Raw Deal with Mona and Dan, my featured guest.
	Frank, a real quick question because, we've got five colors behind you.
	Go ahead.
	Yeah, well, I hope all of you guys have like a 38 special revolver.
	And, you know, I just want to say that I really applaud what you've said one or more times where I've heard you in recent weeks.
	It has the appearance that Israel has declared open war on America.
	That's all I got.
	Yeah, I do believe that.
	I think these fires in California are the latest manifestation, and that they're using high-tech devices.
	Directed energy weapons appear to be involved.
	You have automobiles melting.
	You have homes destroyed, but the trees beside them are not harmed.
	Very weird stuff.
	And there's a new report, I haven't even put it up yet, about the speed high-tech weaponry.
	I do believe that Israel is behind a whole host of these anomalous events, including the hurricanes, including the sonic attack on the embassy in Cuba, including the peculiar collisions of very large cumbersome cargo ships with two very sophisticated electronic warships in the
	Off the coast of Japan, I do think Israel is so pissed off that we didn't deliver Syria on a silver platter, which was part of the agenda for which 9-11 was arranged, that they're taking it out on the United States.
	Remember, their God is a God of retribution.
	Let vengeance be mine, not a God of compassion, love, and forgiveness.
	Frank, thank you for that comment, and thank you for calling in.
	Dan in Oregon.
	Dan, you're on with Dan and Mona and me.
	Here, Dan.
	Uh, yes, Jim.
	Thank you for accepting the phone call.
	Uh, listen, this is addressed to Monica.
	And I personally believe that she's the Golden Goose.
	Go ahead.
	I personally believe that she... Hello?
	You're here.
	We hear you.
	We hear you, Dan.
	Go ahead.
	I personally believe that she's the Golden Goose.
	And that if by her investigation of the victims, I would recommend that in order to give more credence to her investigation, that one, she contact the funeral parlor where the services are being held to verify to see what the cause of death was.
	Two, I would check with the photograph, in both cases that's in the paper, does it correlate to the photographs that she has in hand.
	The third thing I would recommend Is that if there was a victim from the shooting, certainly there would be a little short article in the local newspaper describing her services and who she was.
	And if none of them were there and she can verify, yeah.
	No, I'm just saying, yes, there's always more that can be done.
	I think that she's doing enough to create the presumption.
	There are many ways lies can be manufactured, so I appreciate your call and suggestion.
	What you're saying is you think her evidence is really devastating, that they're faking the dead by changing the dates, locations, and causes of death.
	That's right, and that it would add credence to what your concerns are and what you've been speaking about.
	It's hard to say that you have a crime if you have no victims.
	Right, right, right.
	That's it.
	Have a nice day.
	Thanks, Dan.
	Excellent, excellent call.
	Mona, would you like to comment on Dan's call?
	Yeah, you were right when you said that there's always more to be done.
	When it comes to research and investigation, oh my God, you go layers deep in that.
	So, yes, I agree with you.
	Yes, yes.
	But, you know, my concern is when people have been bought and paid for or threatened, told not to say anything, Calling these places, you may not get the correct story.
	You're going to get more phony data.
	When you have given a prima facie case, I think what you're doing, it requires rebuttal or is entitled to be accepted as true.
	You're doing that, Mona.
	I think that's what we who don't have the resources of the government are Hey, well it's nice to be on with you.
	I think you're doing a splendid job of it.
	Andy, Andy in Texas, you're on with Dan and Mona and me.
	Andy.
	Hey, well, it's nice to be on with you.
	My biggest problem with this Las Vegas shooting is, A, you know, I mean, if this is a high-profile shooting, this person did something really bad, wouldn't there be some video of a body bag coming out the front door? wouldn't there be some video of a body bag coming
	And you know, at this point in time, and how much time we've been lied to, I mean, how many times we've been lied to, it would be nice to see that bag unzipped, show the picture of this guy, and have somebody that we could actually appoint to take the person's pulse.
	Because this has gone far enough.
	The acting, the BS, their agenda is not going anywhere.
	Gun owners aren't giving their guns away.
	They can kill as many people as they want or pretend to kill as many people as they want.
	Whatever they want to do.
	I'm not giving my guns up.
	I don't think you are.
	I don't think anybody else is.
	There's a guy on another station who I really like him.
	His name's Farron, and at the end of his show, he says, you know, when they come for your guns, give them the lead first.
	That's right.
	I say, when they come for our guns, the time has come to use them.
	Listen, there's a guy on Fox News who's saying, conspiracy theorists are right to be suspicious about Vegas Campos Ellen and so forth.
	This is a guy named Stein, S-T-E-Y-N.
	I think he was on with Tucker Carlson.
	Listen to this.
	I just thought about this.
	A week after the Vegas massacre, when no security camera footage from inside the Mandalay Bay was released to paddock, I got very concerned.
	Just like Stein says in this video, right after every terrorist attack, mass shooting, within 36 hours, usually, the public is given the footage.
	It's been over two weeks, and there is still no footage of Paddock in the hotel.
	I want to see footage of an alleged Paddock bringing 13 large duffel bags into his room of weapons and ammunition.
	Actually, it should be 23.
	I want to see footage of Campos allegedly creeping up by Paddock's door in the stairway.
	I want to see footage of the alleged 200 rounds bursting through Paddock's door, which is the biggest bullshit I've heard yet.
	They haven't released any of the footage because none of that happened.
	something else entirely took place. - Well, you know why?
	You know what, Jim?
	I think this guy, I don't, I think he's a Patsy.
	And then just like the Enron guy who faked a heart attack and died before his trial.
	And just like the Nazis from Germany, this guy from Las Vegas was living down in Brazil with these people.
	He agreed to be a Patsy, he's a millionaire.
	Yeah.
	I mean... I do think the security guard who shot Bobby is living in Tahiti sipping Mai Tais, by the way.
	Thank you very much, Andy, for an excellent, excellent... Go ahead.
	You want one more comment?
	One more comment?
	Oh, no, I was just gonna say, it's all just a Hollywood production.
	Thank you, gentlemen.
	Have a good night.
	Thank you, Andy.
	Thank you very much.
	We have another Texan on the line.
	Mark in Texas.
	Mark, you're on with me and Dan and Mona.
	Mark.
	Jim, I have a question for you about the characteristics of the sounds of the gunshot in terms of volume and distance and different characteristics of different guns.
	How do you account for that?
	And are you saying nobody was killed?
	Oh, sure.
	Of course I'm saying nobody was killed.
	Yeah, it was all pure theater.
	They had a pre-recurited soundtrack of real weapons, and there was more than one weapon in the soundtrack.
	They had the sound of the bullets impacting.
	They played it over the PA system.
	They had to have it loud and clear because they knew the recording devices, the cell phones and all that, that were going to be picking it up, were of low quality damage.
	Dan has done brilliant work on this.
	Dan, would you like to address Mark's question here?
	Well, what about, for instance, like the cab driver video?
	The volume is so different and some of it seems to be off in the distance.
	Under your theory, wouldn't it have to come from one speaker or would it come from others?
	Oh, no, no.
	This is like censor round.
	You know, you've been in a theater.
	You hear the, you know, sounds coming all around you.
	Dan, would you like to address Mark's question?
	Dan?
	Dan, are you there?
	Dan?
	Dan, are you there?
	Mark?
	Mark, mute your phone, will you, Mark?
	Dan, are you there?
	I'm still here.
	Okay, could you, did you hear Mark's questions about the sounds of the different rounds?
	Dan?
	Yeah.
	Dan?
	I'm here.
	Yeah.
	Can you hear me there?
	We can hear you now.
	Yeah, go ahead.
	Okay.
	Yeah, the caller's question, this is easily achieved and this is what I referred to earlier.
	about the soundstage of the shots.
	I mean, that's easily achieved.
	I mean, you know, a simple way, just think of a movie theater, you know, in 5.1 surround sound.
	Those are very common, you know, everyday electronics.
	And then this video that we played this clip from earlier, you know, the military has You know, these hypersonic tools to project sound wherever they want.
	And regarding the sound, the quality, it's consistently the same quality from the various guns.
	And locations.
	And that could only be achieved if the sound was amplified.
	You know, we're not getting the raw sound from guns firing.
	We're getting this amplified, you know, Hollywood sound.
	And a video that, if people want to dive into this quickly, and this is a good one, and you look at the waveform analysis, Of this alleged shooting, this video is called Waveform Audio Analysis of Las Vegas Shooting.
	And I encourage people to approach that video, approach that audio, as though this was a Hollywood production.
	Because this is another important point that I'd like to make.
	The media, their role in these events, Is to lead us into the direction that they want us to go, right?
	For example, 9-11.
	What did we hear?
	Planes.
	Terrorism.
	Attack on America.
	Planes, planes, planes, planes, planes.
	And there were no planes.
	Not that we didn't see planes, but that none of the official planes, none of the four official 9-11 aircraft actually crashed on 9-11.
	Go on.
	Yeah, precisely.
	They're leading us in that direction.
	The psychology is so deceptive.
	It's fascinating, too.
	And yeah, so that's what these official narratives do.
	And this is how I made the leap from this was a false flag event to this was a complete hoax, is listening to these audio clips.
	And because I was led in the direction, you know, because the narrative was this just absolutely lame, you know, not possible scenario of one guy doing this from the 32nd floor.
	So that put my mind in the direction of, I'm going to find those multiple shooters.
	I'm going to prove that there's multiple shooters.
	You know, so that's how I approached the audio.
	And so I'm like, yep, yep, yep.
	See, those are different guns.
	Those are different sounds.
	Yeah, I got them.
	I got them.
	And then I approached it as, wait a minute, this is all a movie.
	And it becomes clear then.
	So you've got to break out of, you can't eject your emotion, and you've got to break away from that narrative that they're leading you down.
	They put all of us Shades of Dallas, Dan.
	Shades of Dallas.
	Look for the second shooter.
	Mark, Mark, I want to thank you.
	If you're listening, if you go in and listening, that's it.
	Shades of Dallas, Dan.
	Shades of Dallas.
	Look for the second shielder.
	Mark, I have another question.
	Mark, Mark, I want to thank you for calling.
	Do you have a final comment?
	I was referring specifically to the cab driver video where the gun sounds like it's right on top of her.
	Would they have to have different speakers in different places?
	No.
	No, quite simply, the short answer is no.
	The video that I mentioned on YouTube, check it out.
	They've got the cab driver audio, you know, they've got a whole compilation of audio.
	It's waveform audio analysis of Las Vegas shooting.
	Okay, I'll check it out.
	Yeah, check it out, and I think that'll get you on the right path to discovering how they did this.
	Mark, thank you for calling.
	Very good questions.
	Very good questions.
	Paul in California.
	Paul, you're on with me and Dan and Mona.
	Paul.
	Yeah, you know, after Tuesday's show, because some other caller mentioned this Dallas Goldbug, and I kind of had heard of it before, but I really didn't know.
	And then Frank again tonight brought him up.
	So anyway, the last day and a half, I went to his site and watched a lot of videos, read some of his work.
	And I actually found an interview that you did with him on The Real Deal from 2014.
	Yeah.
	I suppose you remember that.
	Yes, yes.
	It was before I became convinced that he was, you know, wandering off the reservation.
	I mean, yeah, I wanted to give him a fair shake, so I actually interviewed him in 2014.
	You're absolutely right.
	I can't recollect the details, but I decided I wasn't going to bring him back.
	No, no, it was a good show, but here's what I'd like to say, and again, when you spend as much time as I do or a lot of other people do on the internet and coming across people, You sort of have to toss out the bad and keep the good, if you will.
	I got it.
	For example, I'm sure you've mentioned your differences with Miles Mathis, and like I said, I've read a lot of his PDFs, and I don't always agree with all his conclusions, but he's obviously a brilliant guy, and some of his research is so stunning and so insightful and so correct.
	Yeah.
	But then sometimes they'll make a conclusion where it's not as outlandish as this guy Ed Chiarini, but so as an example, the reason I brought it up is I would, anybody who's listening, and that would include you, Jim, although I know you have a lot, you have your hands full and you do a lot of other work and a lot of other research and you're doing radio shows all the time, but don't dismiss the entire enchilada because part of it is no good.
	Yeah.
	I gotta tell you right now, that probably 80% of what this guy does, Dallas Goldbug, is just unbelievable.
	It's so right on.
	I'm glad you called in to make this kind of point, because I think you're completely right.
	And with Miles Mathis, you know, I was really disillusioned when he went after me, when he had no good reason for doing so.
	And I actually copied him on my rebuttals to a party who'd invited my attention because I don't like to talk about somebody behind their back.
	And he wrote back to me a very nasty note calling me a dickhead and telling me I was harassing him.
	I mean, that really disillusioned me about Miles Mathis.
	Yeah, you know, and this is a personal thing.
	By the way, he did something similar with Sophia Smallstorm.
	In fact, much earlier in the year, I sent her his PDF on the Tate murders, which, if you haven't seen it, it's incredible.
	It's 82 pages, and you can't understand many things, in my opinion, until you've read that and you see exactly... it's what I call the big landscape.
	Which he is excellent at ferreting out.
	Well, anyway, she posted it to her site, and then later on she reached out to him and wanted to have him on her show, and he was just completely nasty.
	And then he wrote about it on his site, saying that she had a made-up name, such as Smallstorm.
	He's big into names and genealogy.
	And he figured her to be like some other government shell.
	And I remember she wrote a note to me about how she was just so pissed off she wasn't going to have anything to do.
	She didn't care about any of his other research.
	And I, you know, to be honest with you, probably like you, Jim, I just, I hate this stuff, you know, because there's so many people that should be cooperating.
	And, you know, the thing, the thing I will give you credit for, and this is, I've been listening to you for years, like I said, I saw you at a conference way back when, And I've read your work, and I don't recall any incident where you've said anything uncharitable about anybody else, and that speaks a lot to me.
	What I told Sophia in an email after she let me know what had happened with Miles Mathis, because I kind of just sent her a few of his links, is I said, I said, you're on solid ground.
	Your position in this movement, if it is a movement, is well-regarded, well-respected.
	So don't worry about this stuff.
	It's all petty stuff.
	So going back to this guy Dallas Goldbuck, if you've seen his work on the Columbine shooting, it's just absolutely unbelievable on point.
	I mean, he's one of these people, he just sees things.
	That we all miss.
	And some of his facial recognition stuff is incredible.
	There's no doubt in my mind that the Eisners and members of the Eisner family were at the Boston bombing.
	No doubt.
	It's them!
	But then other times he's like, OK, yeah, you know, the ear is similar and the teeth are similar, but Jimmy Carter and JFK are two different people.
	What are you smoking, dude?
	You know, I want to write to him, but I don't know.
	I mean, is it possible he's a disinfo agent?
	Or I mean, because he says stuff like, OK, Rush Limbaugh was Jim Morrison, right?
	Ha, ha, ha, ha.
	It's Shirley Jones.
	Well, let's get him into a studio.
	Let's get him into a studio.
	Rick and a punch bowl?
	Is that what your job is?
	I don't understand it.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	That was a wonderful point.
	Yeah, if I can add to that, and I'm glad you brought this up.
	That's an excellent point because, you know, I'm the one who's guilty of bringing up Dallas Goldberg on the previous show.
	And I brought him up in context of one specific example where he attained this photo, this family album on Flickr of the Greenberg family.
	And it's them, and the photos are real.
	And then he then exposes them at these Occupy movements and, you know, a multitude of these events.
	And it's brilliant work.
	But, you know, that wasn't, you know, for me, that wasn't an endorsement for everything because what you're saying, you know, I'm laughing.
	I have the same reaction.
	I'm like, God, this is great.
	And then you get, you know, Rush Limbaugh is Jim Morrison.
	I'm like, ah, you know, I can't buy into this one.
	But the point that you made is an excellent one.
	You know, take the good where you can get it and, you know, and then move along.
	You know, you don't have to dismiss this guy completely.
	Right, right.
	And we're just all after the truth here.
	So, you know, this pettiness of name-calling and ego, it just gets in the way of us, you know, trying to do our work.
	And there's no obligation that someone has to be right 100% of the time, all the time.
	Right, and I think it fits in, maybe it's possible it fits in with what you were saying the other day about their way of mocking us.
	It's like the people that talk about Alex Jones, okay, so yeah.
	He's absolutely ridiculous on so many things, but yet, you know, historically, when you listen to him about 75-80% of the time, he is indeed informing people, he is indeed waking us up, he is indeed pointing to the problem, and yet, right, look at some of his ridiculous antics, the way he acts, and then, you know, I heard him talk about Saudi Arabia, quarterbacked 9-11, and it's like, what?
	You know, it's just, so it's one of those things where, again, I'll just mention quickly, because you probably know this if you've seen some of his work, but this guy, you know, Mike Chiarini, who's a real guy who had a real lawsuit against Texas and so forth, I mean, his presentation skills and the way he puts together most of his videos are excellent.
	And the things that he points out are just like, wow, there it is, it was there all the time, I just never saw it.
	And then, you know, like I said, the brick and the punch bowl, and you go, why, dude?
	I don't get it.
	I mean, if he's real, Paul, I love your calls.
	You're such a thoughtful guy.
	I have no doubt I have said uncharitable things about people from time to time.
	But it reminds me, when I first came back from college, one of my good friend's mother was driving me and him somewhere, and I made some remark about someone, and she said, why, Jim Fetzer, that's the first time I ever heard you criticize anyone.
	So maybe there's something to it, but I'm not free from blemish myself.
	Paul, I love your calls.
	I think this was a wonderful commentary.
	I want to thank Phil from West Virginia, Miles from Maine, Frank in North Carolina, Dan in Oregon, Andy in Texas, Mark in Texas.
	Paul in California, but Mona and Dan.
	Mona, you're doing such wonderful work.
	Dan, both of you guys are just doing sensational research, and I can't thank you enough.
	And I hope to have the opportunity to bring you back again on my show, whether it's here at Rentzer Radio or another network.
	Believe me, you guys are doing great work.
	The pleasure is all mine, Jim.
	Thank you.
	And thanks to everyone else out there.
	Check out Jeff Rents tonight.
	He's going to have a fellow, Gary Holland I think is the name, for two hours to try to convince you that everything I've been saying with Dan and Mona is something like happy horseshit.
	So check it out.
	Give Jeff a chance to give his rebuttal.

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