In this podcast, Jimmy and his guest, podcaster Stew Peters, argue that Erica Kirk was increasingly positioning herself as a leader within Turning Point USA well before Charlie Kirk's death, citing a staff-meeting video where she is literally elevated to be standing on a table and praised as part of "God's plan." Leaked video from a whistleblower shows Erika was making managerial decisions without Charlie's knowledge, signaling a quiet power transition inside the organization. The discussion expands into allegations that TPUSA is driven by donor pressure, foreign influence, and pro-war political agendas, with critics saying Charlie had begun resisting those forces. They further claim internal culture, secrecy, and long NDAs make staff vulnerable to control and silence dissent. Plus segments with Peters on leaked audio of Erika crowing about what a "success" Charlie Kirk's memorial was and how Charlie had become an obstacle to the long-term Zionist objectives of TPUSA's top donors. Also featuring Stef Zamorano!
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Establishment media sucks, all gaslighting, so good luck Bullshit we can't afford, he's fomenting this Watch and see as he's jacked off the median speeds And jumps the medium and hits him head on It's the Jimmy Tore Show So let me get into this So you were talking to this whistleblower on your show and Matthew, what's his last name, Mike?
I'm blanking.
Tutirone.
Matthew Tucerone.
Tutirone.
Okay.
And you were asking him, when did you, because he was an insider at TPUSA for a while.
He worked on their Get Out the Vote campaign and he was very familiar with all these people.
Yeah, so specifically he worked with the TP action side of everything, which is supposed to be like their political arm of Turning Point.
And you asked him about when she started to insert herself into TPUSA events.
Are there any rumors about Erica Kirk's kind of administrative involvement in the months leading up to Charlie's death?
Was she kind of inserting herself more frequently?
Yeah, she was inserting herself more frequently.
Beforehand, you know, she was just a trad wife.
I got invited to the Andy Biggs gubernatorial race launch because Turning Point is backing Andy Biggs.
Andy Biggs is running for governor in Arizona right now.
They invited a lot of the field reps who chased the vote to this event in Scottsdale.
This is when, and this is in June, I want to say right after Memorial Day weekend, early June.
This is when Erica made her big debut for at least us in Arizona.
You know, she got on stage and she said, you know, I typically don't do this, but this is for my husband.
I'm usually the stay-at-home mom, you know, guys.
I'm the trad wife, blah, blah, blah.
But this is for Andy.
This is for our state.
I must make an appearance and just really support my husband.
And I was looking at my friends.
I'm like, I've never seen her come out like this before.
That to me signified the change in the takeover right there.
And so now it was weird.
That was out of place.
That was abnormal.
That was very abnormal.
Did it catch anybody else's attention or were you the only one fixated on this?
I was the only one pretty much fixated on this, but I do look back and I have talked to my friend who's on the inside, no longer on the inside as of her post on X recently.
I would say she caught on as well.
That's why she sent that video of Erica and Mikey, you know, at that staff meeting at Amfest.
Because we see there's smart people in Turning Point and then there's really not so smart people.
And so here's the video he's referring to.
So let's get to that and then I'll get you to weigh in on this, Stu.
Yeah, we have that video.
I actually want to roll that again here real quick.
Let's roll this Erica Kirk video.
We can't see this one enough.
I really like the staff meeting because Charlie had to fly back to help me be the president.
And it's crazy to look back and you just kind of see the Lord kind of knitting his own beautiful image that sometimes we just don't always see.
But we're blessed to be here for the second staff meeting at Amfest with you.
Okay, so that video shows Erica.
So tell me, what does that video show to you, Stu?
I mean, she's literally on a pedestal.
The only thing missing here is the big palm leaves and the bowl of grapes that these people are supposed to feed her.
She is literally standing on top of a coffee table, elevating herself above everybody, holding that microphone and just smiling ear to ear.
And what I hate about that whole exchange, other than the fact that, you know, all these people at Turning Point USA are latent closeted homosexuals.
And, you know, whatever somebody wants to do, that's on them.
But to be out here pretending that you're something different, and you could totally tell Mikey McCoy there.
I mean, nobody has gestures like that.
This guy, Matthew Tuceroni, is an openly gay guy.
And, you know, he was telling me in conversation off the air leading up to our interview, he's like, I don't even behave like this.
I don't flail my arms around and make these gestures.
I mean, these people are just, they're flamers.
But for him to invoke God into all of this and say, all of this is because of God.
Charlie's death is just a part of God's plan for all of us to be able to be here in this spot at this America Fest, to have all these people, to have all of this money, to have all of these blessings, to have all of this attention, and to have you leading us again.
And at the beginning of that, it was kind of cut off.
But what he was referring to there is two years previous to that, Charlie Kirk unexpectedly had to go like travel with the president or something.
And so he wasn't in these, you know, preparatory, preparation type planning meetings for America Fest that year.
And he's re he's like kind of reliving that.
And he's saying, you know, just like then, it's just so great to have you leading us.
And his body gestures at the end of that.
I know that language.
I know body language very well.
I was a bounty hunter for 15 years.
I know when you're lying.
I know when you're putting on a show.
I know when you're nervous.
I know when your hands are probably clammy.
And this guy is so nervous because if you don't, if you don't comply here, if you don't go along, if you don't follow this very careful plan that has been set forth by Erica and by her handlers, by her paymasters, by her associates, her affiliates that she brags and boasts about having relationships with, they'll kill you.
They will kill you.
And they proved that on September 10th.
But the way that he, the way that he said, and we're just so happy, and he kind of like jerked his body, that is a very nervous reaction.
I've seen it.
It's textbook.
This guy literally fears for his life, but he invokes God.
She's putting herself on this pedestal.
And that's all her.
Somebody pushed that thing over there.
She climbed up on that thing and she elevated herself.
It's disgusting.
The whole thing.
So when they say God's plan, they really mean their own plan because.
Of course they do.
Right.
And when she says, you know, earth-shattering event or, you know, once in a lifetime, whatever she, how did she describe the event?
Once in a century.
Yeah.
I mean, I want to know what event she's actually talking about.
Is it all encompassing?
Is it to arrive at this point that this big event had to take place?
And so now here it is.
And I've made, you know, a lot of statements early on about what I think TPUSA always has been.
And after talking to Matthew Tucciarone, and we have like, I think we're at like eight right now, over a half a dozen, almost 10 insiders that are currently there right now who are confidentially informing us.
So I know that Candace has a lot more of them too.
And I think there's going to be a lot more people that want to come out because the behavior that they're seeing and then you go and fire 40 people.
I will say this.
From what Matthew Tuceroni said, that he was the only one that noticed that she was kind of putting herself on the scene.
The way that he answered the question wasn't really what I was getting at.
And I didn't keep hammering it because there were other things to get to.
But we have heard from several insiders that in the months before Charlie was executed, she was inserting herself managerially as more of a CEO type of role very early on.
And she was asserting herself and she was making decisions for this company, you know, in the absence of Charlie.
And she was saying things like, don't worry about what he says.
He will agree with this.
People were asking, does he know about this?
And she was saying, no, he doesn't, but that's none of his business.
I've got this.
I'm going to take care of this.
So, from a managerial operations perspective, Erica Kirk, going back at least two months prior to Charlie Kirk's assassination, was asserting her kind of authority around the turning point USA infrastructure administratively, kind of setting up this hierarchy that she was going to be transitioning into this role.
And I like the way that you pointed this out.
They keep wanting to say trad wife, trad wife, trad wife, grieving widow, all this stuff.
You cannot be a traditional wife and mother and leave your kids.
Where are these kids?
Who's taking care of these kids?
She was on with Hannity and she was thanking her TPUSA family.
I think that's the first time that she said that.
And everybody was like, what?
And she's like, yeah, I have to just thank you and Ainsley.
So are you telling me that Sean Hannity and Ainsley Earhart are taking care of the Kirk kids?
Are they with Charlie's parents?
People genuinely want to know.
And so when people are saying, well, that's, that's private information.
Nobody wants it's for their safety.
Okay, fine.
I don't want to know their geographical location, but they made this public.
You know, she didn't go and weep in a corner and stay behind closed doors and go and grieve.
She didn't want privacy.
She didn't want to stay private.
She elected to the day after Charlie was dead.
His body probably wasn't even cold yet.
It was still probably flying around with the vice president of the United States on Air Force 2 before an autopsy could be performed, by the way.
And she inserted herself into the public.
And so she made all this public.
And then just by her fake alibi from the wrong day that she delivered to some random YouTuber rather than just giving it to Candace and she has, I mean, she has contact information with Candace.
I don't know why she would do it that way, but it's, it's like for the wrong date.
And there's the kids with the, you know, and so she's inserting the idea that she's constantly with these kids and it's just a lie.
She's not.
And by the way, that kid wasn't Charlie's kid because that kid looked like four or five years old and his kid would be under two years old.
So the whole thing is bizarre.
But that video is, it's shocking.
Christian Behavior Questioned00:10:12
Again, it's shocking to see for a normal human being, especially if you are a Christian, because TPUSA, and I think that that's really relevant here.
Turning point has always presented itself as a Christian organization.
This is not Christian behavior.
Lying is not Christian behavior.
Being promiscuous is not Christian behavior.
Wearing leather pants and groping the president and groping the vice president and rubbing their hair.
This is not Christian behavior.
None of this is Christian behavior.
And so I just think that that should punch every Christian in the face and they should wake up to this.
They should say, you know what?
I'm going to take the blinders off.
Something is amiss here.
This isn't right.
Yeah.
So let me play that video again.
I really like the staff meeting because Charlie had to fly back home leaving the president.
And it's crazy to look back and you just kind of see the Lord kind of knitting his own beautiful image that sometimes we just don't always see.
But we're blessed to be here for the second staff meeting at Amfest.
There was.
Okay.
So that's so that is, is that backstage at Amfest?
Is that what that is?
Yeah.
And he's, and they're all just like, this is the Lord.
The Lord did this.
Now she's the head of CE and CEO of TPUSA.
We can be openly Zionist again because Charlie Kirk was turning against Israel.
He not turned.
He had turned.
He had stated plainly after they tried to do the intervention in the Hamptons on him, where they had.
And by the way, Mikey McCoy was there.
And I think that that's something that we should always keep our foot on the gas with that, with that, is knowing that Mikey McCoy is the one who I believe took him there.
Maybe Erica did.
I don't know.
I can't say that for sure.
So I don't want to speculate.
But he was there.
And this is somebody that Charlie Kirk perceived as one of his best friends, if not his best friend.
Right.
And he was there at the Hamptons in this struggle session.
It was a pressure campaign to the extent that it was confirmed by Candace Owens, who was in that four and a half hour sit down with Erica Kirk, that it was at that time that Benjamin Netanyahu, the sitting prime minister of Israel, called and offered over $100 million, $140, $150, whatever it was, over $100 million to a company that previous to that was operating on a $140 million annual budget.
So, and Charlie Kirk said, no, no, that's not enough.
No, I don't have a price tag.
No, that's not enough.
And when you look at the letter that Charlie Kirk wrote to Benjamin Netanyahu, a lot of people say, well, yeah, look at here.
He's trying to tell Benjamin Netanyahu how to propagandize Americans further into, you know, getting on the pro-Israel, pro-Zionist train.
No, no, no, no, that's not what that was.
You know, Andrew Colvett lied about talking to a surgeon about Charlie Kirk's superman-like neck bones of steel.
I don't know about that, but he certainly had balls of steel.
This guy wrote a letter to the prime minister who sat before Congress and lied about weapons of mass destruction and incubator babies that caused the deaths of thousands of Americans and spent billions, hundreds of billions of dollars in Iraq, in Afghanistan, and chasing down the Taliban and Al-Qaeda while we taught the importance of transgenderism to Pashtun tribesmen and look the other way while warlords raped little boys.
You know, I mean, so for him to write that letter to that guy, the guy that's responsible for all of that death and for all of these wars and for giving Americans and the American government, moreover, the pretext to hype up Americans to cheer this on.
And that's what turning point was.
It always was that machine.
It was the machine that would shill for that fighting force to go into these wars that don't benefit America.
They don't benefit our national security or are certainly our economic interests.
And I think Charlie realized, yeah, no, no, no, I don't want to do this.
We have also, and I don't know if your audience is aware of this, we also have a source who's provided us with screenshots of text messages that were exchanged.
They might be signal, actually.
I'm not going to, they're either text or signal.
Messages between Tyler Boyer and other like top-ranking TPUSA brass.
And this was before Charlie was dead.
And these messages were that they were showing tremendous concern.
The word was concerned that Charlie Kirk was about to, quote, go ballistic on Trump over wars and over Epstein.
Now, we know that Charlie Kirk was shouted down in one way or another by President Trump when he pushed back on Trump about that 12-day war with Iran or that there was going to be some sort of a military strike with Iran.
And then what happened immediately after Charlie was gone?
Immediately it went into hype up Americans on war.
We're going into Venezuela.
We want Mexico.
We want Cuba.
We want Colombia.
We want Greenland.
We just want to expand America everywhere and turn into this like globalist borderless society with a one world government.
And of course, all the neocons love this.
They love this.
They love this agenda, this foreign policy agenda, this military agenda that Trump is exacting.
And this was the very thing that Charlie Kirk was going to stand against.
And when you consider the fact that Charlie Kirk was standing in front of millions of college-age, military-aged young men who hanged on every word that he said, he had influence like nobody else.
He probably would have been the president of this country someday, given a fair election.
If people were to actually vote, I would say that he probably would have been the president someday.
He had a ton of influence, but especially with a young group of American men that would mobilize and they would go and they would enlist.
And they would also follow him when he left the pro-Israel cause, as he said that he was going to be forced to do.
And as he said that these people would kill him in the now infamous Harrison Smith tweet, where he said, I have it on good authority that Charlie thinks that Israel will kill him if he turns against them.
And then we have rumors about the night before.
We have text messages that he was sending the night before.
Well, now what do you have?
You have Turning Point back in its original and really supercharged on steroids.
I guess really its mission, its function, which is to act as the selling machine to get young American men excited about putting on a uniform and going and fighting in every corner of the world.
They're going to need a lot of blood for all these wars.
Where do you think they're going to get that from?
These people don't go fight and die for themselves.
They have basically conscripted us into their military for decades now.
And so now that this is back on the table, TPUSA is putting chapters in high schools all over the country so they can leave their turning point event and go out into the lobby of their high school, right up to the Marine Corps or Army or Navy or Air Force or Space Force recruiting table and get themselves signed up to go overseas and die for the very machine that Charlie was standing against.
$150 million wouldn't do it for him.
The pressure campaign, the threats, even knowing that he was going to die was not enough to stop him from staring directly into the eyes of the beast and like a G, fighting back.
And that's why, you know, look, I was one of Charlie Kirk's biggest detractors while he was alive.
I will say that.
And it was because of this, you know, pro-Israel, pro-Zionist, like kind of, you know, neocon, never-ending, unrelenting support for Donald Trump, no matter what he did.
But look, he said he was going to, quote, go ballistic.
He was distancing himself from that.
He had an up close and personal look.
He was an insider.
He was, he hung out with the president all the time.
He was best friends with Don Jr.
When Don Jr. could select one person to go fishing in Iceland or whatever, he chose Charlie Kirk.
And it was that long-lasting friendship and obviously all of the donor class that goes along with Trump wherever he goes, you know, that friendship was the conduit to all of that money.
And then you have Tyler Boyer, who made that arrangement, that introduction of Erika Franzfei to, you know, to Charlie, who would soon be Erica Kirk, the Romanian orphanages, the Ukrainian orphanages.
It's just all so much.
All of this was by design.
The people that were around Charlie Kirk were very carefully selected and put around him.
And when he looked around at the end, I got to believe that he realized I'm in a den of vipers and there's no way out.
I mean, that has to be, that has to be one of the things that shakes me the most.
And it's all of these people.
I've said it a lot of times.
He was betrayed by the people closest to him.
No doubt about it.
And he's still being betrayed because they can't stop lying about his assassination and everything surrounding it.
They even lie about his text messages or what was said at that Hamptons meeting.
They lie about everything.
They lie about having a secret conversation with the surgeon who took care of Charlie when he was assassinated.
That didn't happen.
They just make stuff up.
They're also lying about not being on Fort Wachuca, by the way.
That's right.
Of course.
They're lying about Fort Wachuka.
She was there.
She was there.
I know she was there.
She was there on the 8th with Cabot Phillips.
Two days before Charlie died.
She was there.
The candle wouldn't sweets.
I know this.
She was there.
That's why we don't have an alibi.
We have one for the ninth with fake kids or somebody else's kids entirely.
Right.
We don't have that.
She was there.
And Brian Harpole was there the next day on the ninth, the day before he was assassinated.
Now, Cabot.
You know, that guy has a security company 11 minutes from the gates on Fort Wachuca.
Yeah.
Yes.
And the fact that anybody would ever hire Brian Harpole to do the security again when he can't manage to get somebody to look at the roofs.
No one's watching the roof.
A guy got up there.
He was up there for at least a couple of minutes because he had to change his clothes.
He had to take a gun out of his backpack or a long gun and put it together.
He had to get a screwdriver out, had to put it together, had to put the scope on, had to line up the shot.
He had to take the shot.
Then he had to take the rifle apart again, then have to stuff it in his backpack or something, wherever he puts it.
Concerning Manipulation00:08:08
Oh, all right.
Well, case closed.
I believe all that.
And nobody saw it.
That's totally possible.
I just can't believe that there are people with big platforms on the internet that this was the most prolific assassination of my lifetime.
I mean, I wasn't alive when JFK was took, but of my lifetime and of these people as well, it's the biggest assassination of our lifetime.
And they are just accepting this.
Like, are we surrounded by people with sub-50 IQs?
No, you're surrounded by that.
You could look at that fairy tale and say, yep, I believe that Fed slop.
No, we're surrounded by people who are being paid off because we know that the money train is all around this right now.
And so when you see people flipping 180 degrees, you know that there's some chicanery going on there.
It's not an honest opinion.
And so I've seen that in many social influencers, big time, and they're flipping.
So they're compromised with either just the way Mossad compromises people with blackmail, or they're compromised with money, the way Benjamin Netanyahu tried to compromise Charlie, or both, or money and blackmail, but they're compromised.
And so it's, and it's obvious to me, but I wanted to ask you one thing before we move on to the next segment.
When you say that the people who are working at TPUSA are closeted homosexuals, what is the significance of that?
Because I know Candace Owens, when she's doing her deep dive into the military connections to Charlie Kirk's assassination, she keeps bumping up to these people who are high up in the military who are either PDF files or gay.
And she says her assertion is that these people rise to the top and they're the ones who are easily controlled because they're easily blackmailed.
And is that what you're saying when you point out that there's a lot of people at TPUSA are closeted homosexuals?
Are you saying that because that makes them easily blackmailed?
100%.
Okay.
It makes them 100% controllable.
They work as the front-facing people or administrative people or high-ranking people at a Christian organization.
And if you ask real Christians about homosexuality, they will tell you, well, God blew up two whole cities over that, Sodom and Gomorrah.
I mean, it's frowned upon.
So, first of all, there's that.
Second of all, a lot of these people have beards.
They have fake wives or they have wives.
They have children.
They're living this like kind of heterosexual presented wife lifestyle.
And in fact, they're not.
So yeah, they're easily controllable.
They're easily manipulated and blackmailed.
And then also, I find it concerning and I find it relevant that you have these kind of closeted homosexuals who, by the way, I don't know if Matthew Tuceroni said this on the air or not, but he definitely told me this privately.
And because I'm not gay, I wouldn't know this.
But what he said was: it's the closeted homosexuals that you have to worry about around younger people.
And with that being said, I find it very concerning that these people, especially with the allegations that have been made about Tyler Boyer and others that have positions of authority, that they use that position of authority to dominate younger, more naive boys.
And I find it a little bit alarming that this organization with all of this going on at the top is going into these high schools and having all of this contact with young boys, especially after knowing that Erica Kirk was like texting directly with somebody who was a minor.
And I believe that this person's parent got a hold of that message.
There was something recently about that.
And so these people are having direct contact, you know, with these people.
And, you know, I've seen this too many times.
I've covered these stories now for five years, Jimmy.
I know how these people work.
And I know the previous associations.
I know about Erica Kirk's nonprofit in Romania.
She was 17 years old, 17 years old.
And she's running a nonprofit that deals with orphans in one of the biggest hotbeds on Traffic Earth for all of these PDF files to operate.
It was like ground zero for trafficking.
Yeah.
And the same with Ukraine, where Tyler Boyer brings his own Eastern European orphanage connections.
All of this stuff is just insane.
But yeah, I mean, as far as the closeted homosexuality is concerned, and I think that that's why they got rid of Tucciaroni because he was out.
He's not closeted.
He's just an openly gay guy.
They don't have anything on him.
And also, it wasn't just him, but he confirmed this.
There were several insiders that have told me that these people, when they get hired, they get hired into these low-paying or oftentimes not paying, no pay jobs.
And they're given one-year contracts and they all have to sign 10-year NDAs.
Have you ever heard of that before?
They got a one-year contract, but a 10-year NDA.
I've heard this now from six different sources inside of Turning Point.
I'm trying to get my hands on one of these NDAs.
Nobody wants to give me one because these people are very litigious, it would seem.
They're going to go after Candace.
They're going after wolves and finance.
I haven't had, I don't check my mail, though.
So maybe that's why I haven't got my letter yet.
But of course, we're not doing the old smear that if you're gay, you're a pedophile.
That's not what we're doing.
We're saying.
No, I'm not saying that at all.
No.
I'm not saying that.
I'm just saying that Matthew Tucciarone, I'm going off what I've been told by a gay guy.
And what he's saying is that closeted homosexuals have a higher likelihood to be a predator in that way.
Okay.
And so it's concerning.
But I think, moreover, even if none of that is going on, let's just say, yeah, no, they're not doing that with kids.
Okay.
It's a Christian organization.
They're in the closet.
They're lying.
They're living a fake lifestyle.
If they're outed, they lose everything.
They lose their position at turning point because they're no longer useful to Erica Kirk, who's proven to everybody that she'll either fire you or kill you if you're no longer useful to her.
They'll lose their family.
They'll lose their marriage because that was fake.
Because I don't know a whole lot of wives that are sticking around with a guy when she knows that he's been sticking himself elsewhere.
You know, and the kids and the custody battles and the houses and the refinances, you know, the repossessions and the foreclosures.
I can just see all of that happening to these people.
And then also, too, they're being told that and they're being reminded of that over and over again.
We have this on you.
We have this on you.
And so, yeah, I mean, that's that's really concerning, especially for people that are dealing with an organization that I would estimate is probably valued at about a billion dollars now.
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Welcome back to the show.
I've got a special guest with us, Stew Peters.
He's a media personality, host of the Stew Peters Show, a program that discusses political and cultural issues predominantly from a traditionally right-wing perspective.
He previously worked as a rapper and bouncer honey, Hunter, before launching his podcast in 2020, which focuses on skepticism towards government institutions, public health policies, and global events.
Welcome to the show.
Stew Peters.
Hey, Stu, how are you?
Thanks a lot.
I'm really excited to be here, actually.
Where'd you get that bio from?
I don't know.
Is that an old bio or is that not a good one?
Breathing Angels: A Moment00:15:47
Yeah, I don't know.
It's just interesting.
It's fine.
I mean, all of it is true.
I kind of miss bounty hunting, but you know, I mean, looking at Minneapolis right now, can you imagine?
No.
I wanted to bring you on because you had a whistleblower from inside TPUSA on your show last night, who I also talked to.
But first, I wanted to run because you're a lot of people I'm talking to, like I was talking with Jake, who was the guy here, Jake Shields yesterday.
And he said, I'm not really into looking into TPUSA.
And so there's not a lot of people doing this.
You're one of them.
And so I wanted to bring you on, A, to talk about what your whistleblower guest revealed last night.
But first, I wanted to, Candace Owens revealed this, and I wanted to get your take on it.
She, when Erica Kirk took over as CEO, now no longer a traditional Christian wife, she's not a traditional.
She's now leaving her family, her fatherless children, to go run a huge corporation with over $250 million in assets just since September.
So when she left to take over CEO and be a full-time CEO of a big company outside of her house, she had a phone call with everybody at TPUSA and it got recorded and it got leaked.
And I just want to play this for you and then get your reaction because my reaction was stunned.
But let's play it.
I do want to remind you that Charlie has not been dead for two weeks.
That's where we have to go back to two, not even two weeks after Charlie was publicly assassinated.
The obvious point of this call to set this up is to introduce Erica.
She's a new leader.
Not even introducing, she's just heading up this call, but obviously she's going to be at the helm of this.
So they're getting to know her.
So let's take a listen.
Hi, everybody.
I still love all these emojis things.
Wow.
I don't even know where to begin.
The fact that we were able to pull off an event of a century.
Like, it's just insane.
We had.
Now, just, I know people get upset when I stop and start videos, but I just want to stop it there for a second and just remind people: what she's talking about as the event of the century is her husband's funeral.
Oh, oh, okay.
I thought that she was talking about what got him there.
No, that's she's right.
That would be might have been another event that she had a part in planning.
The event of the century.
I would say his assassination so far was.
I mean, just so far listening to that, does that sound like a woman who just lost her husband in an unexpected and shocking way in a prolific assassination?
Does that sound like the voice of a woman?
I mean, I would hope that somebody who loves me, my mom or my kid's mom or whatever, would be like in the fetal position at least for 20 minutes and, you know, be shocked.
But this woman is excited about everything.
She's everywhere I see her, she's just really excited.
And she's very excited on this call.
So let's go back to this call.
Now she's just remember, she's referring to her husband's memorial funeral as the event of the century.
And she's, you know, it's like, you know, when you're talking to somebody over the phone, you can tell they're smiling.
It's the same thing here.
You can tell she's smiling as she's talking.
100%.
Yes.
But here she here she is.
Let's get back to this.
So now she just said it was the event of the century, your husband's funeral, and she's thanking everybody.
Over 275,000 people that attended.
And the stadium, Overflow, Westgate, insane, you guys.
And then it's just, oh, it's just to say we did it.
She sounds like a high school prom shared.
And you know how they know that they had 275,000 people there because immediately after that, Andrew Colvett was super excited about all of the people that Lori Fransvi, Erica's mom, was able to geo-fence.
He came right out and said that.
Yeah, well, we know how many people were there because we geo-fenced all of them.
And for those people who don't know what geo-fencing is, it's spying.
So they know that your device is in a certain area, a TPUSA connected event like this memorial, a TPUSA connected church like the Calvary Chapel.
And if you go to these places, they get your data, they get your phone number, your IP, your email address, they get all of that.
And pretty soon you're getting fundraising text messages and you're getting, you know, pro-Israel Zionist propaganda just pummeled in front of you all day long.
So they were spying on these people.
It's just unbelievable.
Okay, let's keep, let's keep going.
Have, is it 100 million?
We had thousands that were registered to vote.
I think we're at like over 200,000 for merch sales.
Don't quote me on that because I think it just keeps like bumping up like crazy.
But I just wanted to say a huge, huge, huge thank you to the events team, the development team, the graphic design team, the production team.
She's talking about it like they just put on a Christmas spectacular with Bob Hope or something.
Well, they did.
I mean, you saw the fireworks, the pyrotechnics.
Can you imagine what the fire, the sparklers bill was for that?
I can't even just the bill for the glitter on her pantsuit alone would be making WWE entrances like she's Linda McMahon about to give somebody the SmackDown with the fake tears and everything.
You remember seeing that, right?
She was at the bottom of the stairway and she was coming up the stairs to the front to the stage and she was putting fake tears in her eyes.
Well, that's somebody who we are told just lost her husband in a shocking way.
Well, that's definitely the speculation that she was putting menthol in her eyes that would make her eyes tear up right before she went on.
That's the speculation.
I can't, nobody can verify that for sure, but that's what a lot of people have said.
That is exactly what that looked like.
So yeah, let's, here we go.
Just phenomenal.
Oh, by the way, she's talking about, it's phenomenal.
His funeral was phenomenal, and it's phenomenal that they raised $250,000 off of merch or $200,000 off of merch sales, meaning memorial t-shirts for Charlie.
That kind of freedom shirt.
It also probably means if you stop to get your picture taken, you know, at Amfest, well, we know what they did there.
They brought the murder scene to America Fest.
Right.
Which she would have had to have approved, right?
I mean, she's the CEO.
So here she is thanking everybody for what a great success, financial success that TPUSA is experiencing right now after Charlie's death.
Incredible work leading into the memorial.
And honestly, a lot of the staff that worked on the memorial, they had 20-hour days for a week during the time of us grieving the loss of my husband.
And honestly, I know several staff that didn't even sleep.
Again, you guys are breathing angels.
I don't care if any of you.
So, so I, I really, this is.
The death of her husband was kind of a short, like, kind of glossed over, wasn't it?
Very, very much.
And those a lot of those employees that she's thanking from the bottom of her heart for working 80-hour weeks up until the memorial, they just went and fired 40 of them.
Yep, they're gone.
40 of them are gone.
They didn't.
And now they're holding up big signs at all the TPUSA events.
We're hiring.
We're hiring right now.
So they fired them without explanation.
They did like an ambush firing.
They bring people into the office and they would have their general counsel just fire them and not give them a reason at all.
People who just got done.
This is the people that Erica refers to as her TPUSA family, and that's how they treated them.
Just to let you know, when she says that, oh, thank everybody working so hard at production, everybody doing the working 80-hour week.
And then they fired them, just to let you know.
Okay.
Have beef with each other from the past.
And now she's telling people to give each other the beef.
Have you ever cared about breathing angels?
I don't care if any of you have beef with each other from the past or have any issues with someone said something about this or that.
Like, if you guys have any of that, please put it to rest.
My husband's dead.
Like, I'm not trying to be morbid, but he's dead.
And it puts life into perspective of how short life is and relationships.
It is the general tone.
So I just want to say, so she's telling people, my husband, so she's positioning herself again.
I'm the victim.
My husband's dead.
I'm the victim.
So that means that anybody who works at TPUSA, which I understand they have like 600 employees, that anybody who works there, if you have a disagreement with a co-worker about anything, get over it because my husband died.
So you can't have normal human emotions.
You can't have a normal human disagreements with people.
This woman has never had a normal human emotion in her life.
Not since I've known who she was.
Me too.
I would have to concur.
So here's how Candace, this is her reaction to what we just listened to.
It is the general tone that is off-putting.
It's the laughter that is off-putting.
It's again, we are not even two weeks after watching your husband be assassinated.
We're talking about numbers and metrics that have been hit.
And my husband's dead, not to be morbid.
That is a sentence that I, and this was not my husband.
And I had no sort of the type of relationship that she had with him that I was able to utter.
Least of all, I mean, that's moving pretty quickly to the acceptance phase.
Now we know everybody grieves differently.
In my imagination, I don't, I just thought she would be more upset.
I do want to remind you that Charlie has not been dead for two weeks.
That's where you have to go back to.
Okay, so I just want to, I want to play that for people one more time without stopping it.
It's not long.
So I want to do this.
Hi, everybody.
I still love all these emojis, Zoom things.
Wow.
It is funny.
I don't even know where to begin.
The fact that we were able to pull off an event of a century, like it's just insane.
We had over 275,000 people that attended and a stadium, Overflow, Westgate, insane, you guys.
And then you have, was it 100 million?
We had thousands that were registered to vote.
I think we're at like over 200,000 for merge sales.
Don't quote me on that because I think it just keeps like bumping up like crazy.
But I just wanted to say a huge, huge, huge thank you to the events team, the development team, the graphic design team, the production team.
It's just phenomenal.
Their incredible work leading into the memorial.
And honestly, a lot of this staff that worked on the memorial, they had 20-hour days for a week during the time of us grieving the loss of my husband.
And honestly, I know several staff that didn't even sleep.
Again, you guys are breathing angels.
Breathing angels.
I don't care if any of you have beef with each other from the past or have any issues with someone said something about this or that.
Like if you guys have any of that, please put it to rest.
My husband's dead.
Like I'm not trying to be morbid, but he's dead.
And it puts life into perspective of how short life is and relationships.
So there it is.
That's the whole.
And that when I first heard that, my reaction was like that.
Like for a couple of minutes, I was like, oh my God, this is.
And the timeframe is important.
The timeframe is very, it's like 11 days after his assassination, right?
Yeah.
It's unbelievable.
Did you see that I posted a video or during the interview with my whistleblower yesterday that I shared a video of her before Amfest backstage preparing for Amfest?
We are going to, we're going to play that next.
So yeah, well, hold on to that.
So I just want to say that a common tactic that the people like Erica and TPUSA have been using to discredit people like Candace or anybody who's looking into this at all.
If you look into the assassination of Charlie Kirk, what they do.
Grieving widow.
Is what they say is that you're just doing this for clicks.
Look at all the money she's making.
They tried to pretend like it's Candace Owens who's the one who's capitalizing off of Charlie's death when she's just doing her normal show like she always has.
And she's making this getting the same amount of views as she always has.
And now, so, but the, of course, that's called projection.
Carl Jung teaches us.
That's projections.
They're the ones who are actually rolling in the dough after Charlie's death, capitalizing off of his death.
And you heard her, that's what she's talking about right now, about all the cash that they made off of his death.
Isn't that what's happening right there?
The same thing she's accused Candace Owens of?
Yeah, absolutely.
And it's been hundreds of millions of dollars because let's not forget about the donor class that Charlie Kirk was trying to distance himself from in the days, weeks, and months leading up to his death.
So, I mean, there are hundreds of millions of dollars that have been promised to this organization as long as they toe the line.
And they're happy to do that.
I mean, this has become absolutely a post-mortem humiliation ritual as they try to recreate the person that Charlie was while he was alive the whole week on the Fox News channel and the Shabbat Shalom, Daddy's Home, throw the phone poem that she recited like she was Tupac.
It's just like, you know, when you say normal human emotions, this is a woman who, as far as I'm concerned, and a lot of people said that it was crass, that it was low-crass, it was disrespectful.
I shouldn't do it.
But immediately, Jimmy, immediately when she opened her mouth, actually, she didn't even have to.
I was driving down the road, and I don't know if it was the day after, but it was within 48 hours of Charlie being shockingly taken from all of us.
Billions of people on the internet have watched this.
And it was within a matter of 48 hours.
I get a text message from Turning Point signed by Erica Kirk asking for donations.
And at that point, for me, it was gloves off.
At that point, it was like, okay, I see what this is.
And then it was the freedom shirts.
And then it was the sparklers and it was the fake tears.
And it was the week on Fox News.
And it was every camera that she could get in front of.
And everything is scripted and fake.
And for her entire life, every time you dig a little bit deeper, you find some other strange anomaly.
And when you're talking about people that are saying, oh, well, you know, Candace is just doing this for clicks.
The other argument that I always get is, why can't you just leave this woman alone?
Why can't you just let her grieve?
Everybody grieves differently.
Why Candace Grieves Differently00:10:15
Everybody's heard that.
It's a big joke.
Now it's a meme.
But this woman, everything about her, I just don't know how anybody could spend five minutes keystroking on the internet and look into her and not say, well, this is just absolutely bizarre.
And this woman has completely fabricated her entire childhood, her entire career.
She's scrubbed the internet of entire relationships, including a whole engagement.
She's lied about the most trivial things when she could have just told us the truth about being on Fort Wachuka, when she could have told us the truth about dating or drinking, just little things.
And if you're willing to lie about those things, you're willing to lie about the big things.
And it turns out she is.
So I agree.
I mean, that whole, that whole phone call, it doesn't surprise me though, because I've spent a lot of time kind of getting to know the person that Erica Kirk is.
And when I heard that from Candace, it just, it didn't shock me.
I wasn't surprised.
It's shocking.
It's shocking to hear a person actually doing that and to know that there are beings among us that can actually put their emotions aside or just not have them and to carry on like this is a big celebration.
But I mean, I'm just here to tell you, it doesn't surprise me because my theory or my take is that I am not convinced that Erica Kirk did not have foreknowledge at this point of what was going to happen on September 10th.
That's where I'm at.
Well, you I don't know if that's a Rubicon that a lot of people don't want to cross, but from where I sit, this looks like a woman who had foreknowledge.
Well, Baron Coleman also has come to that conclusion, who's done a lot of deep dives, as you have on this subject.
And he concluded that he thinks she had foreknowledge of his assassination.
So that's him.
At minimum.
And it certainly looks that way.
Let me just play this for you right now.
Now, this is Matthew, the whistleblower from TPUSA, talking about he spoke to someone who's still inside TPUSA, and she had a conversation with Tyler Boyer, who let's remember was the COO who Charlie was replacing because he found my speculation is he found financial chicanery and he wanted to get to the bottom of it.
And he knew Tyler Boyer was behind it.
So he got rid of Tyler Bore as the CEO right before.
But now he's going to tell you of a meeting that his friend who's on the inside had with Tyler Boyer specifically about Charlie not being on board with Israel, but TPUSA being 100% Zionist.
Let's listen.
My friend, when she was in his office, said to him, You know, what is it that you have?
Why are you so against Candace Owens?
The Israel cause, etc.
She specifically, she's brave.
She's she's bold.
She'll ask Tyler Boyer right to his face because she wants to know what is the big deal about not supporting Israel.
That's when he shut the door, pulled her in, and said, Listen, I'm a Zionist.
Candace Owens is a black conservative who wants to be relevant in this movement.
And she's doing whatever she can at all cause to stay relevant.
So that to me says a lot.
That is proof.
And it's in the text that I sent you to, Stu, of where she confirmed, like, yes, you know, he pulled me into my, into his office and said that to me.
So that's been my suspicion all along that Charlie had turned against the Zionist project, Israel, the greater Israel.
He had turned against them, turned down their money.
And he had lots of powerful Jewish donors who were Zionists and Christians who were Zionists.
And once he turned against them, they needed desperately to get Turning Point USA back on the Zionist train.
And that's exactly what this enabled because Erica's 100% Zionist.
Tyler Boyer, you just heard, is 100% Zionist.
They're all those pastors, Mikey McCoy's dad, Rob McCoy, they're all Zionists, 100% and liars.
They're 100% on that.
They're liars and Zionists.
And those are kind of redundant when you say that.
And so now, and if they weren't on the Zionist train, all their funding would dry up.
Charlie had already turned down over $100 million from Benjamin Netanyahu, and all their donors were pulling their money out left and right because they got wind of Charlie not supporting Israel and Zionism.
And so they had to get rid of Charlie or else their whole organization was going to lose their money.
And as we find out now from Wolves and Finance, that there's lots of financial chicanery and shell companies involved inside of TPUSA.
And so Charlie was going to, so it was all going to go away.
Their money, million, million, multi-million dollar grift was going to go away because Charlie was going to divorce TPUSA from the Zionist project and Israel.
And they couldn't have that because then they have nothing.
And plus, you know, they wanted all the things you said.
Trump was getting ready for this big neocon militaristic buildup and takeover of Venezuela, Greenland, bombing Iran, Yemen, whoever else, Cuba, Colombia, all this stuff he's getting ready to do.
And they knew Charlie wasn't going to go for it.
So there was all these, but that's the main reason for the people inside TPUSA to want to get rid of Charlie and cover up who really killed him was because they knew if they exposed who really killed him, all their Zionist donorship money would go away and they would have no longer have an organization.
And that's always been my suspicion.
And I think stuff like this proves it.
What do you have to say?
I couldn't disagree with anything that you just said.
Yes.
Exclamation point on all of that.
There are hundreds of millions of dollars at play here.
And when you have somebody like Erica Kirk, for example, who her entire life she has tried to be famous and be in front of a camera, she starred in movies, by the way, on Fort Wachuca, where she played the role of an assassin on a rooftop with a rifle.
She's been Miss USA, Arizona.
She has been in CIA training videos.
I mean, this woman has always, she was on national television dating and drinking, although be it she'll tell Barry Weiss that she doesn't drink, she doesn't believe in that, and she didn't date.
Does she not realize that she was on national television?
I mean, how could she thinks you're an idiot?
She thinks that everybody is really stupid.
And all of these people think that you're really stupid.
But this goes a lot bigger.
I think this was, you know, yesterday I just asked myself, how high does the ladder go here?
And I think it really does go all the way to the Oval Office and to the Trump administration and the Mar-a-Lago.
I think that Trump personally, this goes to him and this goes to the people that Trump brought to Charlie Kirk.
These are all the same players.
There are several of them.
They control private equity.
They control the central banks.
They are the big donors.
And people like Tyler Boyer and people like Mikey McCoy and Erica Kirk, the people who are after the money, the people who want to be in the club, they want to hobnob.
They want to rub elbows with them.
They want to be invited to their $10,000 a plate Mar-a-Lago fundraising dinners, which was a whole nother thing.
They want to be involved with this.
They want to have the fame and the notoriety and the power.
They crave it.
They have to have it.
It's incessant.
It's innately in them that they have to have this.
And when they saw that being threatened and they saw Charlie Kirk standing on his Christian values, standing on his convictions, look, let's just be frank here, brass tacks.
There is not a place that you can go on the internet since October 7th of 2023 and not find this conversation.
You can go to cooking channel Instagram pages and you will find stuff about this control structure and this power apparatus from Israel and from the Zionist cause and from the greater Israel cause.
You can see that pressure everywhere.
And you can see if you go to the comment sections on anybody's feed on any platform across the entire internet, no matter the subject, you will find this as a talking point.
There's no way that Charlie could have avoided this, especially, especially when he's working in the most Zionist organization, that if he were going to be a man of character, conviction, values, principles, that when he learned of this, there was no way that he could avoid confronting it.
And I really do believe, I really do believe, just by all of the circumstantial evidence and physical, all of the video evidence, all of the historical precedent, all of the previous relationships and associations, it's very evident to me, and I thoroughly believe this until somebody can prove otherwise, that Charlie Kirk really genuinely, authentically was having this real life kind of awakening in the same way that a lot of people have since October 7th.
He was seeing this conversation everywhere and he looked into it.
And you don't have to look far.
But when you are insulated and when you are Charlie Kirk and you've reached that level and you have these handlers and you have multiple phones and you're being dragged from this college campus to that meeting with the president to this planning meeting with TP Action and this one with TP Faith and this one with Turning Point USA and you are stretched thin, you don't go looking.
People have to bring things to you.
People have to make you aware of these things.
Well, there was no way to avoid this one for him, for anybody.
There's no way to avoid this conversation.
No matter what side of this issue you sit on, whether you think I'm just crazy and a conspiracy theorist and I'm hate-filled, whatever, if that's your position, fine, but you can't avoid the conversation.
And so Charlie, when it came down to it, and he probably did a lot of research, he was a brilliant guy.
He was really smart, very well articulated, well-read.
You could tell all these things about him.
And when he looked into this, there was just no way to avoid it.
But these people knew that if he continues down, this is why they were saying in these text messages, quote, we're very concerned.
This is why they were very concerned that Charlie Kirk was about to, quote unquote, go ballistic.
And it was on these things.
Why We're At War Again00:03:30
And, you know, it's not just Venezuela and it's not just Iran.
We are talking about right now military action that will have the United States, the American war empire, on behalf of Israel's objectives.
There's no way to, no way to skirt around that, at war with all of the BRICS nations.
Right.
And, you know, I've said this before is like, you know, there's no way to get around the fact that BRICS, although be it first and foremost, is an economic alliance, you can't get around the military component of this when you're dealing with superpowers like China and Russia.
And I don't even know, quite honestly, I mean, we spent 20 years in Afghanistan and ended up handing all of our surplus military equipment and everything else right back to the Taliban.
They're in control again.
So to think that we could somehow take Iran, I don't know about that.
I've seen Iranian military propaganda videos.
I've seen that.
I know how these people train.
We could, we, we, we couldn't even exactly.
We couldn't even take Afghanistan.
No.
And remember what happened in Vietnam?
Imagine.
You know, before a lot of a lot of people don't want to talk about this.
Just before we went in the middle of the night with, you know, some U.S. military contingent accompanied, I guess, by federal law enforcement agents to kidnap that country's president in the Western hemisphere, a sovereign nation in the Western hemisphere, and bring this nation's leader to the SDNY.
That's a whole nother detour.
But before we did that, you know, they were considering like a real campaign to go in there.
And they still are, by the way.
If Paul Singer writes that check and if Del C Rodriguez doesn't do exactly as Paul Singer wants her to do with his sitco oil, we'll be back into Venezuela.
Can you imagine fighting in the jungle against these people?
And here's what people don't want to talk about.
There are videos that you can find, if you know where to look, of these Venezuelans who are training together.
They're arming together.
They have militias.
There are millions of them that have buried themselves and entrenched themselves on every street all throughout and in the jungles of Venezuela.
And they have said, we will oppose militaristically, we will physically, we will kinetically oppose any kind of American invasion, which may be why they did it the way that they did and went and just got Maduro and said, hey, we just want to show the leadership here that we're about business and we mean that.
And we're going to pressure these people through other kind of economic sanctions or a military blockade, whatever it might be.
But can you imagine we're going to fight with Venezuela?
We're going to fight with the same, by the way, situation.
All of the American men that were cut to pieces in rice patties in Vietnam, all of the men that we lost in that war, and now we're talking about Venezuela guerrilla warfare in Colombia and in Cuba.
I mean, we are stretched so thin already that we can't protect or choose not to protect our own borders and instead protect the countries that hate us.
But simultaneously to all of this guerrilla warfare that we would be going through in the jungle, similar and akin to Vietnam, we're now squaring off against these countries in the Middle East.
We're squaring off against Russia.
We're hijacking their oil tankers.
We're hijacking Chinese oil tankers.
We're taking them to hundreds of millions of dollars in oil and just poking the bear everywhere.
While Miriam Adelson just keeps on shoving cash at Donald Trump, saying that she'll give him another 250 million if he decides to run for a third term.
And then he made the comment about a fourth term.
I mean, all of this is stuff that, Jimmy, I am 100% certain Charlie Kirk would be, quote, going ballistic over.
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