Candace Owens CALLS OUT Turning Points USA-DEMANDS They Call Her A Liar!
Candace Owens has accused Turning Point USA leadership of covering up the truth about Charlie Kirk’s assassination, alleging obscuring the fact that Kirk had explicitly rejected pro-Israel donor pressure just 48 hours before his death. She claims he told TPUSA executives, Jewish donors, and a rabbi that he was abandoning the Israel project and planned to bring her back on stage with him. Owens challenged TPUSA to publicly deny her statements, suggesting their silence proves they are protecting financial interests tied to pro-Israel donors. Jimmy and Americans’ Comedian Kurt Metzger emphasize that TPUSA’s refusal to address these allegations directly points to a deeper corruption and donor-driven influence within the organization. Plus segments on the letter Charlie Kirk wrote just before his death to Netanyahu demanding Israel do its own propaganda, why Israeli control over TikTok is worse than China’s and the plans underway for an attack on Venezuela. Also featuring Stef Zamorano!
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So guess what?
Candace Owen comes out and she lays in to the, you know, Charlie Kirk's organization was TP USA Turning Points USA.
And listen, she's coming at them, both guns blazing.
She's not holding back.
No punches pulled.
Listen to what she has to say to them right now.
I don't know how the executives over at Turning Point USA sleep at night.
Okay.
I don't know how you can present yourselves as a Christian organization and not just be dedicating yourself to the truth.
No matter what the cost is, you tell the truth.
That's it.
Okay.
You don't hide it.
You don't try to obfuscate it.
You don't try to say, well, wait until wait until the memorial events before we start looking into who murdered him.
You tell the truth and you tell it immediately.
And I don't think they're capable of doing that.
And I have an idea as to why that is.
I think the same people that were pressuring Charlie are pressuring them.
In fact, I know that for a fact.
So they might need my help.
Okay.
I'm going to state this.
And I'm going to challenge Turning Point USA executives to issue a very clean statement saying that I am lying if this is not true.
About 48 hours before Charlie Kirk died, Charlie informed people at Turning Point, as well as Jewish donors and a rabbi that he had no choice but to abandon the pro-Israel cause outright.
Okay.
Charlie was done.
He said it explicitly that he refused to be bullied anymore by the Jewish donors.
Can you guys answer?
Did he express that?
Did he also express that he wanted to bring me Candace Owens back because he was standing up for himself?
And then did he just 48 hours later conveniently catch a bullet to the throat before our on-stage reunion could happen?
Whoa.
Let me just give you a, whoa, that's a W-H-O-A exclamation.
Whoa.
Well, Candace, we don't know if he caught a bullet to the throat because no autopsy was done.
No, they did do an autopsy, but they're not releasing it.
That's what I've read.
That's what Grock tells me.
But they're not.
There's a recording of a guy saying there was no autopsy.
You haven't seen that?
I thought she played it.
Oh, maybe she did.
So maybe I'm getting conflicting stories, but I was told there was because it's by law, you have to do one.
That's right.
That's why it would be really bad not do one.
Yeah.
And on the recording of the people taking his body out, it says, see, I don't really trust Grog, by the way.
I don't know because I know.
But they also, did you know this?
They also, I don't want to get off topic, but they didn't take him to the closest hospital with a trauma center.
They took him to a faraway hospital that doesn't have the necessary stuff to treat.
Did you know that?
And that the guy who was the head of that hospital had just been, but anyways, there's lots of, there's lots, so many.
Did you know that Cash Patel fired the FBI directors in Utah a couple of weeks before this happened?
There's so, yes, so many shady things that happened.
But there she is saying that Charlie Kirk had come out and said that he was done with Israel and it was because of the Jewish donors.
She saw John saying it was the Mormons and not, no, the Mormons are there, dude, but they're not there for us.
So she's, so he's challenging them.
So she's challenging them to deny this.
Did this happen?
Yes or no?
Deny it.
I'm saying it happened.
So she's got him.
And she goes, so hang on.
She keeps going.
Yes or a no.
Yes or no?
Let's stop this ditching.
Let's not the dodging.
Let's like explicitly, I want to hear from Turning Point USA that I'm lying about that.
I want you to say no.
No, it was just, you know, he was feeling a little bit of pressure.
No, I want you to literally answer what I have just said.
It either happened or it didn't.
I'm either making it all up or it happened exactly as I'm saying.
And while we're at it, may I ask, what is the name of the Jewish donor who sponsored the Hampden's weekend?
Okay.
And to Pastor Rob McCoy, were there any LLCs that you or your son were being paid through that sat outside of Turning Point?
I'm asking that question genuinely.
Yeah, I'm putting the fire here right at the feet of Turning Point because I am disgusted.
I am genuinely disgusted.
I am looking around and wondering whether Charlie's entire life was the Truman Show.
None of you guys are behaving in the way that you should be behaving, okay?
There is no way you are letting these lies fly unless, as I'm hearing, unless it is true that there was a big, big, big payday that was on the line.
And if Charlie radically stated that he was done with Israel, if Charlie said he had no choice but to abandon the pro-Israel cause because of, and I quote, Jewish donors, the behavior of Jewish donors, if he said that, yes or no, well, then I don't know.
Maybe, maybe some people didn't want to take that risk that he was kind of what, become Candace Owens and Ducker Carlson at Turning Point USA with all of those presences.
So she's saying that Charlie Kirk declared that he had to abandon the Israel project because of what was happening, the pressure he was receiving from Jewish donors.
So she's asking TP USA, yes or no?
Did that happen?
Did he say that?
Yes or no?
Okay.
Much presence across college campuses.
Maybe they didn't want to take a chance.
You see, I'm just one person, so it's easy to try to cancel my life and lie on me every second of every day.
But Turning Point USA, I think, got a little bit bigger than Charlie, and I'm no longer going to allow this lie, Miss Narratives.
So answer the questions.
Yes or no.
And I'm going to again challenge you to lie.
And if you do lie, I'm going to expose the lies.
And I'm going to start dropping videos, actually.
So that's where I'm at.
Enough of the gains, enough with trying to allow Israel to wrangle a narrative that you know is not true.
Charlie did not die pro-Israel.
He did not die for Israel.
He did not martyr himself as a friend of Israel.
In fact, the friends of Israel were pressuring him really badly, and he was done.
And he finally stood up for himself.
And I'm proud of that.
And I will say this, you know what?
Somewhere, Charlie is watching.
Okay.
And I hope he knows that we are reunited.
Okay.
We're on stage right now and the Jewish donors are very angry about it.
So there you have it.
She says that he had broken from Israel.
He had proclaimed that he had to abandon the pro-Israel project and there was a big payday that was going to be canceled because of it, a big payday.
And so it seems like she's implying that the people at Turning Points USA were kind of going along with the donors against Charlie.
And that's why they're not saying anything now because they want that big payday.
That's what it's, is that what it sounds like she's saying?
Because that's what it sounds like she's saying to me.
That's like the classic Pablo Escobar silver or lead dilemma to me.
What's that?
Pablo Escobar goes, silver or lead.
I can pay you off or you could die.
Oh.
So when you're more useful to billionaires, it's not just Israel, even though it's definitely Israel.
It's not just them.
These billionaires can have you killed if you're not doing what they want.
You're there to exist to serve them and you're going to serve them in life or in death.
And that's what happened to him.
So now I once she has revealed this, I expect we're going to be getting a lot more stories in the news about invading aliens because they got to distract us.
A lot of unit 8200 fucking fun stories of your Ovi Loebs and your, oh, new meteors coming to Earth.
It might be a ship.
I don't know.
How far away you think we are from Space Force guys dressing up in like alien suits?
That's what it sounds.
That's what it sounds like to me we're coming for.
That's what they've been doing it.
So she, let me just play the beginning of this one more time because this, this, what she's alleging is a big deal.
She's alleging that the Turning Points USA are abandoning Charlie Kirk or abandoned him.
They had abandoned him even before he was killed.
We saw it.
We reported it, Jimmy.
Yeah.
Reported they're calling him an anti-Semite.
They're all piling on him because he had Dave Smith and what's his name on?
Tucker Carlson.
And Charlie Kirk had the most tepid, not radical.
Really, I feel bad for being so hard on that dude verbally because you could see the spot he was in now.
Yes.
It was real bad.
And he had the balls to do, take a stand on something.
And that's what they do.
And that's what Christ is about, by the way, to answer a few seconds.
Yeah.
So let's watch a little bit more of this.
I don't know how the executives over at Turning Point USA sleep at night.
Okay.
I don't know how you can present yourselves as a Christian organization and not be dedicating yourself to the truth.
No matter what the cost is, you tell the truth.
That's it.
Okay.
You don't hide it.
You don't try to obfuscate it.
You don't try to say, well, wait until wait until the memorial events before we start looking into who murdered him.
You tell the truth and you tell it immediately.
And I don't think they're capable of doing that.
And I have an idea as to why that is.
I think the same people that were pressuring Charlie.
So she's right off the bat saying that Turning Points USA is not telling the truth about Charlie Kirk's assassination.
Right off the bat.
She's like, Turning Point USA is not telling the truth.
Another way to say that is they're lying.
If you're not telling the truth, you're lying about what happened.
So here we go.
Are pressuring them.
In fact, I know that for a fact.
So they might.
So the same Jewish donors that were pressuring Charlie Kirk are pressuring the people at Turning Points USA right now.
And she knows that for a fact.
That's what she says.
Need my help.
Okay.
I'm going to state this.
And I'm going to challenge Turning Point USA executives to issue a very clean statement saying that I am lying if this is not true.
About 48 hours before Charlie Kirk died, Charlie informs people at Turning Points, as well as Jewish donors and a rabbi that he had no choice but to abandon the pro-Israel cause outright.
Okay.
Charlie was done.
He said it explicitly that he refused to be bullied anymore by the Jewish donors.
Can you guys answer?
Did he express that?
Did he also express that he wanted to bring me Candace Owens back because he was standing up for himself?
And then did he, just 48 hours later, conveniently catch a bullet to the throat before our on-stage reunion could happen.
So there you go.
So they're trying.
I've seen people who are on the board of Turning Points USA try to say that Candace Owens has never been to an event with Turning Points since 2016, which was a lie.
She did all the college tours with him except the last one.
She did all the, she's, they're very close.
And so she's got the inside information.
And she says Turning Points USA is lying, not telling the truth.
Well, obviously, they seem to be the last people on earth to question the FBI narrative on this, which is obviously complete garbage.
Everybody with a thinking brain says this is garbage.
Everybody knows it's garbage.
Cash Patel can't hide it in his face.
His face gives himself away when he talks about this incident.
He's such a bad liar.
So she's saying, did 48 hours before he was shot, did he tell Turning Points USA, his jurist donors, and the rabbi that he was abandoning the Israeli project?
Is that true?
Did he also say he was going to bring Candace Owen back on tour with him?
Is that also true?
Or is Candace lying?
Why don't you go ahead and release a statement?
So this is from yesterday.
So I haven't heard if there's a statement.
Can you see if there's a Turning Points USA statement?
Does Turning Points USA respond to Candace Owens?
It's already 7.30 on the East Coast.
So this was yesterday.
So they've had a whole business day to address this.
It's already 5.30 in Phoenix, which is where Turning Points USA, I think, is headquartered.
So it's already been a whole business day.
Did they respond to her?
Because believe me, she's taking a lot of incoming.
She's taking a lot of bad faith smears, slimes, and criticism for just asking obvious questions.
Same thing that happened during COVID, for asking obvious questions.
You're slimed.
You're smeared in the worst way.
And it's by people who claim to be politically ideological that are smearing her.
Isn't that always the way?
Isn't that always the way?
It was the people who claimed to be aligned with me politically who smeared me like a motherfucker over force to vote.
People who claimed to be for Medicare for all, then as soon as I had a good idea, they smeared me because it might actually get a vote and it would embarrass the Democrats.
Same thing happened during COVID, right?
So the people who are supposed to be politically aligned with me, just like John Fuglesain just said in the previous that he's always been a critic of Big Pharma.
Well, where were those motherfuckers to criticize Big Pharma with me?
When I criticized Big Pharma during COVID, I was called a grifter.
He didn't do his own research.
This thing blows my mind, is that thing of, well, if you want to make it about COVID, I've moved on from it and I'm talking about a different.
No, it's all the same goddamn thing.
And Candace, when I hear people trash her, what did she say that's wrong?
When she came on this show, Jimmy, and she wrongly said the commies invented concentration camps in the Soviet Union.
And I said, no, it was actually Cecil Rhodes who did it in the Boer War.
Okay.
She said a specific thing I disagreed with.
And I said, here's the correct thing.
I'm the only guy who can do that.
Everybody else just smears her.
Right.
I'm the only guy that I know when she's been wrong.
I've seen it.
So I'm not like just a Candace Owens lover or something.
Tell me what she said that's wrong.
I don't want to hear your middle school popular girl gossip.
Well, she's got cooties.
I want to hear actual shit, you know?
Exactly.
That's exactly right, Kurt.
Exactly.
Hey, you got that.
That's what I've, and that's what I asked people to do to me over COVID.
I was like, if you have something that you disagree with me on, let's disagree over it.
Why can't we disagree over something?
Why does it have to be, I'm a grifter?
Why does it have to be I'm a liar?
Why does it have to be I'm anti-science and all the everything?
Why can't we just have a discussion about it?
Like we can have a discussion about everything.
But you weren't, nobody wanted to discuss Ukraine war with me.
Nobody.
Nobody wanted to discuss COVID with me.
Nobody.
Nobody wanted to discuss it.
They just wanted to smear me.
I should have asked John.
If I'm so wrong, wouldn't it be easy to make me out to be wrong?
Only one guy who wanted to come on my own show and debate COVID with me.
And so thanks to that guy for coming on to debate COVID with me.
He was wrong about everything.
And he was pro-mandate.
And of course, now we know the mandates were.
Okay, we're getting off topic.
So I just want to keep this.
So my whole point is, you're right, Kurt.
Yeah.
So Turning Point USA, don't call her a liar.
Say what she's wrong about and correct her.
That's how I would handle somebody saying something untrue.
That's why I don't understand these people.
Well, I do understand them.
They're full of shit.
But I don't understand if you're mad at what she said.
I know I get real agitated.
I can't even hold it in.
But I have very specific things I want to correct.
I don't want to just do this stupid thing where you're not in a good group anymore.
Yeah.
But that's how it works.
That's how social pressure works, right?
That's how they're going to, you don't want to be in the out-group, do you?
You want to be in the in-group.
We all agree on COVID.
We all agree on Israel.
We all agree on Charlie Kirk's assassination.
We all agree, right?
You don't want to be off the bus, as that virologist said about Dr. Fauci.
Well, I knew what he was saying was a lie, but I didn't want to be off the bus.
So I went along with the lie.
Remember, I think that was Peter Marks.
I love when they say it out loud.
I love when they actually say it out loud.
He said it up right out loud.
Yeah, I knew Dr. Fauci was lying, and he told me to lie, and I decided to go along with the lie because I didn't want to be off the bus.
And that's so Candace Owen does not give a shit about being on the bus.
Just like us at this show, we don't care about being on the bus.
We have, we care about the truth.
And not that I'm always right.
If I get something wrong, people correct me.
No problem.
I was right about everything when it came to COVID.
There wasn't a thing I got wrong.
I don't have full faith in Candace Owens for the record.
I mean, I don't know what bus that she's exactly wants to be on, but if she's not saying a lie, okay, then I'm great.
If you're telling the truth, keep doing it.
I don't give a shit.
When you lie, I'll tell you.
So she has inside information that Charlie Kirk rejected the Israel Project and told the Jewish donors, a rabbi, and the people at Turning Points USA.
She told them, did he tell her that?
And that he was going to bring Candace Owen back on.
So Turning Points USA, now it's up to you.
Did he say that or not?
Is she a liar?
Call her a liar.
No statement, right?
Did you guys try to find out?
I didn't find any statement.
Same statement.
Isn't that interesting?
They didn't come out and call her a liar.
Isn't that interesting?
Enough evidence to invade Iraq.
We went to Iraq with less evidence than this.
That's right.
We are now bombing boats off of Venezuela with less evidence than this.
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Sono, you've been all over the place.
You wrote that great article exposing the meeting with Ackman and all those influencers with Charlie Kirk on Long Island in the Hampton.
So is there any, what's the most recent update on that?
Well, I had a third part to it, which is that Robert Shillman, who was one of the foremost, I would say anti-Islam pro-Israel donors in the U.S., like really interested in demonizing Muslims as a whole and funding organizations that do that, and was a longtime donor to Charlie Kirk through the David Horowitz Freedom Center.
I reported that he pulled out of TPUSA because Charlie Kirk kept giving a platform to Tucker Carlson.
He was going to put Marjorie Taylor Green on stage at the next America Fest.
And Charlie Kirk was trying to sort of straddle the divide between his Zionist donors who helped make him who he was and the conservative grassroots that was moving away from this.
And Robert Shillman was like, I'm out of here.
You have to completely tow the Likud line.
That's according to multiple, many sources.
Shillman has sponsored Laura Loomer in the past, Tommy Robinson in the UK, and all these sorts of figures.
And so now Netanyahu or someone close to him has released this letter that Charlie Kirk supposedly delivered to him in the weeks before his death, basically advising him on how to improve Israel's image.
And he's basically saying, you have to do it yourselves.
Stop counting on us to do it.
It's sort of embarrassing for me.
And stop trying to use us to sell your war with Iran.
And it's being framed by Bill Ackman and other pro-Israel elements as evidence that Charlie Kirk was just a died in the wool Zionist to the end.
But it really shows the conflict.
At the same time, it's a weird letter.
It's a digital reproduction with no date on it.
And it's not how Netanyahu initially framed it when he attempted to claim the legacy of Charlie Kirk.
And before a suspect was even arrested, this was in a video message, blamed the radical left and Muslims in the U.S. to try to spin it against Israel's enemies.
I mean, that has failed for Netanyahu.
And since then, he's had to come out for some reason.
He felt compelled not once, but twice to deny playing a role in the killing of Charlie Kirk.
So this is all part of the propaganda collapse that Israel is experiencing under Netanyahu.
So you're saying that that letter that Netanyahu referenced immediately after Charlie Kirk's assassination, and he said, I had this letter and he said, all these great, how much he loved Israel and how he wouldn't be able to come to Israel on that on Benjamin.
That same letter, because Candace Owen was saying, why don't you read the rest of the letter?
Why don't you show the whole letter?
And so you're saying you now do have access to that letter.
And that letter says that what you just said, that the letter came out and he's saying, you know, I'm pro-Israel and, you know, I believe in the Judeo-Christian alliance, but we're, I'm summarizing or paraphrasing it, but you're putting all of the weight on our shoulders to do your work.
And this needs to come from Israel itself to convince Americans that we should go to war with Iran and stand with Israel.
And, you know, it should come from your media, which is interesting because I also had a source who is a longtime friend of Charlie Kirk tell me that he had rejected a funding offer from Netanyahu in which Netanyahu would sort of organize his consortium of millionaires and billionaires to pump money into TPUSA in exchange for Charlie Kirk's total obedience on this issue.
I would assume that would mean like no more Tucker Carlson keynote speeches and that he rejected it.
And, you know, it's been reported, and I reported this, that he rejected the trip that Netanyahu offered to Israel as well.
I think Charlie Kirk probably was no friend of, there was no evidence he was like a friend of Palestinians or that he was some anti-war guy, but he was suffering from serious Israel fatigue.
And that's for sure.
Everything I reported was corroborated by Charlie Kirk's public statements.
And now we know he lost one of his largest longtime donors, Robert Shillman, who was actually going to have a plaque erected for him at a building inside TPUSA's headquarters.
And he said, no, cancel that.
I'm done with you.
Maybe they'll take him back now.
Yeah, well, it seems that they're trying as hard as they can to turn TPUSA into a Zionist organization.
Yeah, they want to bury this issue.
And I don't know where Erica Kirk stands on it.
I'll have more reporting just on TPUSA in general and where they're going.
And so I don't want to telegraph any punches.
But it would be much more comfortable for them in dealing with the donor class to bury this issue completely.
But at the same time, they're not kicking Tucker Carlson or Marjorie Taylor Green off the stage at their upcoming December event.
And that's because they don't want to lose what's left of the grassroots.
I mean, it would be sort of like a star-studded Super Bowl-style extravaganza, kind of like the fairly tasteless memorial with pyrotechnics, but with like no one in the seats, like no excitement there.
And another point is: you know, Megan Kelly filled Charlie Kirk's place at one of the stops on his tour where he was killed, so he couldn't finish the tour.
And she was asked many times tough questions about Israel and Israeli influence in the United States, specifically about Bill Ackman and Robert Shillman, like stuff I never thought I would hear conservative youth say in public.
And she just had to deflect.
She had no answer for it at all.
This was what Charlie Kirk was sort of expecting.
And so he was being very closely managed by a small group of Netanyahu cutouts in the U.S. and Israel.
And he was having to have constant Zoom calls with them.
They were trying to set up a WhatsApp group with him.
And they said that he was sort of resistant to it.
And, you know, I can understand he wants to advance his agenda in the United States, and he just has to do this to please the donors.
It would get pretty annoying, if not aggravating.
And then they would start attacking him if he didn't say what they wanted.
It was kind of bizarre to see the prime minister of Israel twice come out and vehemently deny that he had anything to do with killing Charlie Kirk.
That was kind of bizarre to see which.
Have you ever seen anything like that?
No.
Ever?
No, I've never seen anything.
I've never seen anything like a foreign leader come to brag about using social media to propagandize Americans for another country.
I've just never, and everybody just like, oh, yeah, that's normal.
It's not normal.
Imagine any other leader of any other country saying that.
And it would be met with outrage.
But because it's Israel and because Donald Trump has bosses who, and so the bosses tell him to his boss, one of them is Benjamin Netanyahu.
And it's, I just can't get over how bizarre this is.
I can't, I wish I could fast forward five years to see how this all turns out, but I cannot see this actually working out in favor of Zionism.
I just can't see it.
It's too far gone.
They've made an enemy of the entire world, you know, to the point where you have countries now like the UK and Spain acknowledging and Canada even acknowledging the Palestinian state.
You have Italy sending ships to protect the flotillas.
There's all kinds of the whole world is turned against Israel.
They've become the pariah, and deservedly so.
If they did not have the United States military backing, this would have been over a long time ago because even their economy is imploding.
So this is the most bizarre thing I've seen.
This is desperation.
This is what the establishment does, authoritarians do, and when they're desperate.
When they're desperate is they try to control the narrative and they clamp down with censorship and conformity.
And I don't think it's going to work.
I think they've already lost.
I think a lot of people do blame Israel for Charlie Kirk's assassination.
I know a lot of people do.
And I wonder how many people at the Talking Points USA, not the people in the leadership, but the members, the rank and file college kids, because they're already turned against Israel.
And I don't see this coming back the way Benjamin Netanyahu or Donald Trump or anybody in the leadership at Talking Points University thinks it's going to turn out.
I don't think it's going to turn out that way.
I wish we could fast forward, but we can't.
Anything you'd like to say before we say goodbye?
Yeah, I think in a regime that is losing or lost all credibility, there's not just going to be an attempt to control the mind through kind of cognitive warfare, taking over the media in a more naked way than ever before.
We're facing a strategy of tension, kind of like years of lead will probably define the next five years, where as the American public starts to unite against the 1% across the partisan divide, there will be efforts to divide us,
including through very strange intelligence intrigues, like we saw in Italy, for example, in 1969, when the CIA and NATO under kind of Gladio-style operation bombed a cafe in Milan and blamed it on anarchists in order to compel the population to fear change,
fear a kind of political insurgency, a revolution, and to Hug and to turn to the security state for protection.
And that's what we're facing now.
I think everybody can kind of see that.
And they're starting to question the official narrative more and more.
They're just going to keep trying to push us against each other.
And we have to be aware of what's going on.
So that's sage advice, right?
So the whole idea is divide and conquer.
They're going to try and don't be surprised if there's false flag events inside the United States.
Lots of engraved bullets in the next five years.
Yeah.
Lots of engraved bullets.
Their narrative around the shooter of Charlie Kirk has completely fallen apart.
It doesn't take much to see through Cash Patel when he's lying.
He's got a million tells.
And it's unbelievable.
His face, it's like he went to a class to learn how to look guilty when you're lying.
And he did it.
He's nailing it.
And so none of the stuff they're telling us about that shooter seems to be true.
He's not anything.
So anyway, you're right.
So my advice to the people watching is to be on the lookout for us to do a false flag and try to get us to divide each other.
They tried to use Charlie Kirk's assassination to divide people to get it back to a left-right divide.
And Donald Trump's better clamp down on the left and their violence and the left's going to push back on ICE.
And so this is all to keep us fighting each other so we don't come together against the 1%, which is instituting right now through Palantir, through TikTok, through, and you heard him say even Twitter, a surveillance state, a Chinese-style credit system.
They've rolled it out with the vaccine passports.
That was their trial balloon.
And now they know they can keep going.
And it's not going to be voluntary.
It's going to be mandatory.
And we're all going to be on digital IDs.
And it's going to be a surveillance state.
And the good thing is that I know MAGA hates that.
And so now we got to make sure the left is on board with that because the left was all for a surveillance state when Joe Biden was president.
They didn't care about your civil rights.
They didn't care about my body, my choice, your bodily.
They didn't care about any of that.
They were all for authoritarianism.
They were all for censorship, the hallmarks of fascists.
So I think the real challenge is going to be to get the people who vote Democrat to wake up to this and stop hating half the country.
If you find yourself hating and blaming other workers for the problems in America, you know you lost the plot.
The plot is to keep us divided so we don't come together.
That's what I have to say.
Thank you very much, Max, for showing up.
I appreciate it.
Great job.
Everybody, check out his work over at the Gray Zone.
He's got a third part coming out on this whole thing.
We look forward to it, and we look forward to your insight about what's happening with Turning Point USA.
Can't wait to read it.
Thanks, pal.
Thanks a lot, Jimmy.
Great seeing you.
So there's been a takeover of TikTok.
And the reason why they took it over is because of Israel, right?
So they always said, oh, we're afraid of China getting our data.
We're afraid of China, foreign government running this.
That was never, it was always because the people on TikTok were turning against Israel because they were seeing what was happening.
And so they had to, so again, as all authoritarians do, they try to control the narrative and it got away from them.
So they forced a sale of TikTok to a Zionist, right?
Larry Ellison.
So, but how do I know all this?
Well, because the CEO of the ADL, the Anti-Defamation League, which is a defamation league on behalf of Zionists, right?
So what the ADL actually, they're not actually anti-defamation.
They defame lots of people who tell the truth about Israel and Zionism.
And the head of it revealed in an undercover record in a recording that he was afraid they're losing the youth and the left and the right youth are coming together.
So we got to do something, boss.
So here it is.
Let's listen.
But I also want to point out that we have a major, major, major generational problem.
All the polling I've seen, ADLs polling, ICCs polling, independent polling, suggests this is not a left-right gap, folks.
The issue in the United States and support for Israel is not left and right.
It is young and old.
And the numbers of young people who think that Hamas's massacre was justified is shockingly and terrifyingly high.
And so we really have a TikTok problem, a Gen Z problem that our community needs to put.
The same brains that gave us TAC Lee, the same brains that gave us all these other amazing innovations, need to put our energy toward this, like fast.
Because again, like we've been chasing this left-right divide, it's the wrong game.
The real game is the next generation.
And the Hamas and their accomplices, the useful idiots in the West, are falling in line in ways that are terrifying.
Lastly, I'll just say, we saw a dramatic change in the language of the activists here in America on October the 8th.
The language of groups that we've long tracked, who've long been problematic, like Students for Justice in Palestine and Jewish Voices for Peace.
They flicked like this and went to like Iranian propaganda.
The language I could show you from their toolkits, because they're in their groups.
We saw this again October the 8th.
It was that fast.
Like the language in their toolkits, all about the Zionist entity and the language that we recognized from Iranian propaganda.
So there he is saying the real problem is TikTok.
And the problem isn't a left-right divide, which is a problem for the Zionists because they need to have a left-right divide.
But the left and right have become together, and that's why they have to control the narrative and split people up.
So do you understand what we've been saying at this show forever?
Is the establishments, their modus operandi is always to divide and conquer.
So just as they used Charlie Kirk's assassination to try to blame it on a lefty, so we could have a left-right divide again.
And so that's good for Israel.
Okay, so I just want to show you.
So that's why this TikTok is happening.
And here is the press secretary, and here's what she said.
Under the terms of this deal, TikTok will be owned by a majority of American investors and controlled by a board of directors with extensive national security and cybersecurity credentials.
In partnership with the U.S. government, Oracle will serve as TikTok's trusted security provider, and they will independently monitor the safety and data security of all U.S. user data on TikTok's platform.
Americans' data will be stored securely in the United States without access from China.
All U.S. user data will be stored on servers operated by Oracle in the United States, protected from surveillance or interference by foreign adversaries.
And the algorithm, I know this is a question many of you have had, will be secured, retrained, and operated in the United States outside of Byte Dance's control.
And TikTok will remain globally interoperable, meaning TikTok users in the U.S. will be able to see videos posted by users in other countries and vice versa.
While I don't have a number on this specific deal, we do expect that thanks to the president's leadership and the securement of this historic deal, businesses using TikTok will generate as much as $178 billion in economic activity within the U.S. over the next four years.
So this is great news, not just for the millions of American youth who use TikTok.
Their data will be safe and secure with this new deal.
They'll continue to use this very fun app.
But it's also great news for all of the small business owners who have really been able to make a living off of the use of TikTok as well.
So Oracle is a Zionist organization.
In case you don't know, it's run by Zionists for Zionists.
And you're not allowed to be anti-Zionists and work for Oracle.
You're not allowed to vocally.
You can work for Microsoft and be anti-Zionists or Ambo, but you can't work for Oracle.
And they're talking about how he's going to keep your data safe.
Oracle quietly admits data breach days after lawsuit accused it of a cover-up.
That's from April 3rd of this year.
So Oracle has finally admitted to suffering a significant data breach, quietly notifying select customers about the security.
So this isn't about data being safe from China.
Your data's not safe.
So your data, by the way, is now being harvested and controlled by Israel, a Zionist organization called Oracle, led by this guy.
So let's get to it.
So here's what Glenn Greenwald said.
Yes, we know that TikTok's algorithm will be retrained by Larry Ellison and his boy, his son, who donated millions and millions directly to the foreign military, which they are loyal.
That's the American investors, are these two crazy Zionists who donate millions of dollars to the IDF.
That was the whole point of the force sale.
The whole point of this sale was not to make it safer for young people in America to use TikTok.
It wasn't to make it so your data would be safe.
The whole point of this was to control the narrative at the behest of Israel, Benjamin Netanyahu, and Zionists.
And so we can control, so they can control the narrative around the slaughter of the people in Israel.
Would you agree with that, Max?
Yeah, absolutely.
And Netanyahu, in a meeting with influencers outside the UN, said, we have to take over.
We have to buy TikTok in order to stop this revolt within the conservative grassroots.
We've always been saying at the gray zone, and I'm pretty sure you've been saying it too, that all the hysteria about TikTok being controlled by China was just cover to take it over on behalf of Israel.
And let's look at, yeah, who took it over?
Larry Ellison, whose son, David, has been involved with the Israeli government in attacking Palestine solidarity in the country for years.
There have been new leaked emails that came out about that through journalist Jack Paulson.
He's also taking over Paramount Prick Pictures, which will release an October 7th propaganda film produced by Israelis on October 7th.
And Paramount Pictures will control CBS News, which will be taken over as well by Israel and its cutouts in the United States.
The editor will be Barry Weiss, according to reports, who is basically the voice of the Zionist American 0.1%.
It doesn't get more obvious than that.
And with TikTok, the algorithm being retrained, it will already build on the censors who have been hired by TikTok under Israel lobby pressure, under pressure from Congress, including, I think, an Israeli citizen, which is why the Gray Zone already has two strikes.
I mean, we can barely even operate there.
No, we got kicked off.
I've been kicked off of TikTok twice, right?
Or at least twice or three times?
Three times.
And that's for reporting accurately on what's happening in Gaza.
Yeah, so there's just going to be a mass purge on TikTok.
And, you know, Israel sort of captured Elon Musk, but he's allowing those of us who are critics or dissidents on the issue of Israel-Palestine to still speak there.
And we attract an organic base.
But like, if you engage on the issue of Israel-Palestine, just go to the For You tab on TwitterX, and it's just non-stop.
You're getting loomered, like left and right.
It's like Laura Loomer and a bunch of Israeli hand-picked propagandists, Hasburists that we would have never heard of because the algorithm has been trained by Israel.
Elon recently launched from Florida an Israeli spy satellite that got almost no news.
SpaceX is obviously, you know, heavily incentivized to do this.
And he is mentioned by Netanyahu as well in the meeting with influencers as someone who's their friend.
So this is about a complete takeover, not just of our institutions, where we saw Northwestern University just prevent 300 students from attending their college, their university, because they refused an anti-Semitism training seminar that was basically a Zionism indoctrination session.
It's the same stuff the right criticized, you know, the racial anti-racism training seminars, but they're doing it to advance Jewish supremacy in the United States and then kicking all of these talented students out of the school because they refuse it.
So our institutions are being destroyed, but now we're seeing the war, the cognitive war, really kick into high gear.
Netanyahu is waging a seven-front war across the region, slaughtering the entire cabinet and prime minister of Yemen, attempting to slaughter the Hamas negotiating team inside a U.S. ally in Iran, attempting to kill the Iranian president and off-duty generals and nuclear scientists in Iran, killing most of the major journalists inside the Gaza Strip.
And now it's moving to the United States with a war for the American mind.
And they're going to take over as many social media assets as possible.
And we will reject it.
The people will reject it and they'll just have to go somewhere else because it's not going to work.
So here's, this is the guy who's taking over Oracle.
So this is the, I think he's now the second richest man in the world.
Some say the first, doesn't matter.
He's one of the richest guys in the world.
And they have this charity dinner every year in Hollywood, well, in Beverly Hills.
And it's people come, American Jewish people come and donate money to a foreign military, which is the IDF.
And here's what he was saying in 2014 at this charity.
It happens every year.
What does Luke Nicholas do?
Well, the question is, what is your connection to Israel?
The renewal of the Jewish state is something that I think touches all of us.
For 2,000 years, we were a stateless people.
And now we have a country of our own defended by all the brave men and women of the IDF.
So anything we can do to support them who devote their lives for preserving the state of Israel, keeping the people safe, and allowing our state to continue sometimes in very, very difficult situations.
I have been to Israel.
I have been to the border.
I have spent time to the people who govern the state of Israel.
And I feel a deep emotional connection to the state of Israel and the Israeli people.
You are an ITIC person.
What do you think about Israeli startups and high tech phenomena?
Oh, well, after Silicon Valley, there's an area that Herzalia has probably got more startups than any other place other than Silicon Valley in Northern California.
So we've actually acquired a number of Israeli companies.
We have two CEOs at Oracle.
One's name is Zaprakatz, and she was born in Israel.
So again, we love the country of Israel, and we'll do everything we can to support the country of Israel.
We recently heard that many people criticizing Israel, especially after the Gaza operation.
How do you feel someone just saying we love Israel so much?
Well again, it's a difficult situation, isn't it?
To conduct military operations around civilians is very difficult.
And of course, there were tragic tragedies and civilians were hurt.
That's a terrible thing.
But one thing we know for certain that the Israeli army did everything they could to minimize civilian casualties.
And in that regard, they've done a much better job than a lot of other armies all over the world throughout history.
Thank you very much.
So breaking TikTok U.S. deal finalized, the U.S. app will have its own separate Zionist algorithm.
Oracle, CEO, Jewish Zionist owner, Silver Lake Zionist Organization, and Andreessen Horowitz, Jewish Zionist founder, will control U.S. TikTok.
There will be an American and Israel board with U.S. and Israel government oversight.
U.S. users will download a new app that looks identical to the current TikTok, but runs entirely on U.S.-Israeli-controlled algorithms.
This is a tragedy for free speech.
This will help ruin the West.
You have no idea how bad this is.
And I want to show you how bad this guy is.
So this is the guy who's buying TikTok.
He's the head of Oracle.
And because the government made this happen, the Trump's government made this happen.
I'm not saying that Biden wouldn't either.
I'm saying the government is wholly owned by Zionists.
And here's what he says about surveillance.
So if you're worried about China's death, listen to what now Israel is going to have this kind of, this is the surveillance he wants to bring to America.
Police will be on their best behavior because we're constantly recording, watching, and recording everything that's going on.
Citizens will be on their best behavior because we're constantly recording and reporting everything that's going on.
And it's unimpeachable.
The cars, the cars have cameras on them.
I think we have a squad car here someplace.
But those kind of applications using AI, if we can use AI, and we're using AI to monitor the video.
So if that altercation had occurred, that occurred in Memphis, the chief of police would be immediately notified.
It's not people that are looking at those cameras.
It's AI that's looking at the camera.
No, no, no.
You can't do this.
It would be like a shooting.
That's going to be immediately, that's going to be an event that's immediately an alarm is going to go off.
And we're going to have supervision.
In other words, every police officer is going to be supervised at all times.
And the supervision will, and if there's a problem, AI will report their problem and report it to the appropriate person, whether it's the sheriff or the chief or whomever we need to take control of the situation.
Same thing, we have drones.
If there's something going on in a shopping site, and I'll stop, a drone goes out there, I get there way faster than a police car.
There's no reason for, by the way, high-speed chases.
You shouldn't have high speed chases between cars.
You just have a drone follow the car.
I mean, it's very, very simple.
And the new generation of autonomous drones.
So he's saying that because we'll be under current constant 24-hour surveillance, including the police, that everybody will be on their best behavior.
Okay, that sounds way more Orwellian than I could have ever imagined.
That's Aldous Huxley meets 1984.
But what he's really saying is that you will have no place to dissent.
And what that just sounds like, we have the perfect tool to enforce conformity.
And that's what that is.
So that's the kind of, so that's what they really want.
They want no dissent anywhere at any time, and they want to enforce conformity.
And that's what I thought MAGA was afraid of China for.
I thought that's what MAGA said China does, that they invade your privacy and they enforce conformity and they squash dissent.
That's this guy's dream.
That's the guy that Trump just engineered to take over TikTok.
And if you think they're doing it for data safety, we all know it's not for data safety.
So go ahead, Max.
Take it where you want.
Yeah, I mean, it's almost like I'd prefer to have China control my data on TikTok, considering I'm not living under the control of China.
That's right.
And now these psychopathic reptilian shapeshifters have it under their control and they're handing it over to Israel.
Oracle, what do they do?
They run data centers for the CIA.
The CIA helped build Oracle.
They're one of the biggest CIA contractors in the country.
And they're building more and more data centers with our taxpayer money to power the so-called AI revolution, which will turn us all into useless eaters, which is why Larry Ellison and Sam Altman are quietly supporting UBI.
And, you know, if you don't like it, well, there's a drone for that.
An autonomous drone will follow you wherever you go to enforce good behavior.
Mark Andreessen is building a new fleet of autonomous drones.
He heads the venture capitalist or vulture capitalist firm Andreessen Horowitz, which is also involved in the takeover of TikTok alongside Oracle.
You heard Levitt mention that.
And who's the Horowitz and Andreessen Horowitz?
It's Ben Horowitz.
He is the son of David Horowitz, who is one of the most notoriously mendacious, vituperous, anti-Palestinian agitators in American history, who was actually Charlie Kirk's mentor when he was younger and ran this, the David Horowitz Freedom Center, which was just a channel for Zionist billionaire money into the conservative movement.
So it's pretty clear what their agenda is here, and it has to be resisted.
And it can only be resisted by creating new platforms as we are basically frozen out of this platform.
And it takes the whole Ed Herman, Noam Chomsky propaganda model to another level.
They're not just manufacturing consent.
They're enforcing conformity.
Yeah, 100%.
And again, if you want to think, and if you think anything that Trump's press secretary said was true about this is about feeling secure in your data, I'll just show you one more news report about Oracle.
This is from Yahoo.
Oracle confirms another massive data breach.
Customer login credentials were sold on the black market.
Oracle confirmed a second massive data leak.
The hacker gained access to sensitive information, including usernames, passwords, and encrypted passwords.
The FBI and cybersecurity firm CrowdStrike Goldings are investigating.
Oracle has told customers a hacker broke into its computer system and stole client login credentials.
Reuters reported recently the incident marks the second cybersecurity breach the company has come forward about in the last month.
So it's all garbage, what Levitt said, the press secretary to Trump, about this being about securing our data and it being held in the United States.
This is Zionists.
This is Israel.
This is the IDF.
This is the Mossad running TikTok and sucking up all your data and enforcing censorship and thereby conformity on a social media platform.
It's the worst thing you could ever imagine.
It's the thing that we're supposed to be afraid, what MAGA used to be afraid of.
Oh, this is like China.
I used to say Biden's going to be like, this is China.
In fact, as Max said, I'd rather have China have my data because China doesn't have a stranglehold on my government.
You know, who does?
Israel.
And if they wanted to get me silenced or if they wanted to get me kicked off a platform, they can do it like the snap of a finger, which they already have done.
New report, U.S. could start bombing Venezuela within a few weeks.
Sources told NBC News that the U.S. military officials are drawing up plans to target alleged drug traffickers inside Venezuela.
Of course, they say drug traffickers.
They use that expression the same way the IDF uses the phrase terrorists.
So when they say drug traffickers, they mean everybody everywhere inside Venezuela.
That's what they mean.
And just to let you know, even the New York Times, in paragraph 11, they told you the real reason that Donald Trump is ramping up this drug war with Venezuela.
Even the New York Times.
So they spend 10 paragraphs parroting Donald Trump and the security state and the economic hitmen and the United States.
And then in the 11th paragraph, they tell you the truth.
Here's the truth.
Several current and former military officials, diplomats, and intelligence officers say that while fighting drugs is the pretext for the recent U.S. attacks, the real goal is to drive Mr. Maduro from power one way or another.
The massive naval flotilla off the coast of Venezuela and the movement of the fifth generation F-35 fighters to Puerto Rico has little to do with actual drug interdiction.
They represent operational overkill, said the former head of the Pentagon Southern Command.
That should have been the first two paragraphs of the whole goddamn story.
That should have been the first, of course, but it's not.
It's the 11th and 12th.
Rather, they are a clear signal to Nicolas Maduro that the administration is growing serious about accomplishing either regime or behavioral change from Caracas, said the admiral.
Gunboat diplomacy is back and it may well work.
Mr. Rubio and Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth have both said the military would carry out more strikes in the coming weeks as part of what they describe as a counter-narcotics and counterterrorism campaign.
The military struck a third boat on Friday.
So there it is.
United States could start bombing Venezuela within a few weeks.
The U.S. military could start bombing targets inside Venezuela, according to a report from NBC News that was published on Saturday.
Sources told NBC that the U.S. military officials were drawing up options for striking alleged drug traffickers inside Venezuela.
CNN also previously reported that the Trump administration was considering launching strikes inside Venezuela and was considering hitting targets with the goal of weakening Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro.
So none of this sounds like this is about oil, just so you know.
They've been trying to overthrow Venezuela for 25 years now, and it's because Venezuela has more oil than Saudi Arabia.
And once you know that, everything else becomes clear.
And I can't believe how many people didn't read this in the New York Times.
When the New York Times is telling you that our government is trying to overthrow another government, not for the reason our government says, you should believe them because they always lie to you and tell you the opposite, which is what they did for most of the article.
Chavez got in by an election.
This guy got in by an election.
And I bet their election was free and fair because once you have an awful terrorist enemy, such as, I don't know, America against you, it probably gets the people behind the second guy.
Maybe they'd probably even like Maduro like that if it were not for this juggernaut coming down on them.
According to the numbers released by President Trump, 17 people have been extrajudicially executed by the United States.
U.S. officials have told the New York Times that while combating drug trafficking was the pretext for the recent military action in the Caribbean, the ultimate goal is regime change in Venezuela.
The policy is being driven by the Secretary of State, Marco Rubio, who has long sought to overthrow Maduro, which is why we were upset when he picked Marco Rubio as Secretary of State.
The NBC report said that some Trump administration officials were disappointed that the U.S. military escalations in the region had not impacted Maduro's grip on power or prompted any significant response.
One official said that the White House has faced more pushback over bombing boats in the region than it expected.
Oh, for fuck's sake.
Recent polling shows that the majority of Americans are actually opposed to U.S. military use of force to carry out regime change.
And so here it is.
So if it says a majority of Americans oppose using military force to overthrow Maduro, so 53% strongly oppose it.
Only 18% support it.
53% strongly oppose it.
And then by party, 67% of Democrats strongly oppose it.
Only 8% of Democrats support it.
Independents, 52% of independents strongly.
And Republicans, 38% strongly oppose.
But guess what?
Only 34% support this.
So maybe a third of registered Republicans support this.
Two-thirds either strongly oppose it or they're not sure.
They're not sure is the most disturbing part of this whole thing.
I know.
I know.
Most Americans would oppose invading Venezuela.
62% of Americans oppose it.
Only 16% support it.
74% of Democrats oppose invading Venezuela.
9% support it.
63% of independents strongly or somewhat oppose invading Venezuela.
9% of Independents support it.
Republicans, 48% of Republicans strongly or somewhat oppose invading Venezuela.
So that's an overwhelming plurality of Republicans oppose invading Venezuela.
Only 31% of Republicans strongly support or somewhat support invading it.
A senior Democratic staffer is discouraging Democrats from coming out against this is Ada Chavez tweets this out.
So of course Democrats are not screaming about Trump doing this because they serve the same donors that want Trump to do this.
So this is all run by the economic hitmen in the United States and they through the deep state, which now Trump serves.
He doesn't fight anymore.
He's doing their bidding, covering up stuff, inflating their budgets, and overthrowing countries.
And he's still funding the Ukraine war.
And so the Democrats are now discouraging, the senior Democrats are discouraging other Democrats from coming out against what Trump's doing in Venezuela.
So it's the uniparty.
No matter who you vote for, you get John McCain.
It's a Democrat, John McCain.
It's a Republican, John McCain.
The staffer is using the Bush-era Iraq line, arguing that opposing Trump and Rubio's regime change amounts to supporting Maduro.
Regime change wars might be one of the only things that pull worse than the Democratic Party.
So of course the Democrats are supporting it.
By the way, I support Maduro now.
Fuck you.
Yeah, I do too.
Fuck you.
John Jackson says Venezuela already has the worst refugee crisis on the planet.
It is the only one on the list which a war is not involved.
What do you think happens when you, a half-assed Trump regime, change regime change military operation on top of this already dire situation?
It explodes.
So, yeah, we've been sanctioning the hell out of Venezuela, trying to cause economic pain to those people.
So, they would rise up.
This is how you do it.
This is how the United States economic hitmen do it.
So, they would rise up.
Then, they fund the opposition with weapons and money to overthrow their government.
So, then we install a puppet like Juan Guaygo.
Oh, so that's like we have our own Gaza star.
So, that's right.
So, people are fleeing like crazy.
Venezuela, where they come, they come here, lots of them, because of our economic sanctions.
And now we're going to start a war.
Now, we're going to try to overthrow their government, destabilize the whole country, even worse.
And we brought them here on purpose so that they would do that.
So, it would justify this moronic invasion of Venezuela.
That's why they were flooding you with, what is it, Trentelaragua, the gang you never heard of until it was convenient politically to hear about him?
Yep.
And so, of course, they do it under the guise of fighting drugs when it's the really the United States that is addicted to a drug, and that drug is oil.
And that's what this is about.
This isn't about cocaine.
This isn't about fentanyl or heroin.
This is about oil, the number one drug that starts all the wars.
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