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Aug. 1, 2025 - Jimmy Dore Show
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Trump Gets HUGE WIN By Crushing Europe In Trade Deal!

The new U.S.–EU trade deal negotiated between Donald Trump and the EU’s Ursula von der Leyen is surprisingly one-sided in favor of the United States. In the end Europe made major concessions, including accepting a 15% tariff on goods and agreeing to purchase $750 billion worth of U.S. energy, while the U.S. gave up virtually nothing in return. Although European leaders were unhappy with the deal, they accepted it to avoid a full-blown trade war, with critics like former Belgian Prime Minister Guy Verhofstadt calling it disastrous and poorly negotiated. Jimmy argues that Europe weakened its own position by severing energy ties with Russia and becoming dependent on U.S. energy and defense, effectively allowing Trump to dictate the terms. He and Americans’ Comedian Kurt Metzger conclude that European leaders have sold out their own nations' interests to serve U.S. and transnational elite agendas, leaving their populations economically disadvantaged and politically powerless. Plus segments with Children’s Health Defense CEO Mary Holland on the newly confirmed CDC head and the surprise departure of Dr. Vinay Prasad from the FDA, and a closing segment on rocker Dave Matthews’ recent statement of support for Palestine. Also featuring Stef Zamorano!

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You want to have your cake and eat it too.
So you want to blow up the Nord Stream pipeline, but you also want to keep getting cheap energy.
You also want to have leverage.
You can't give your leverage away and still have your leverage.
So Trump had this, has gotten a trade deal with the European Union and Ursula van der Leylenen.
And so it's a great, it's a good deal for the United States, and it's a bad deal for Europe because a lot of it.
So here's the former French prime minister says the U.S.-EU trade deal is a dark day for Europe.
Yeah, here's another one.
This guy, his name is Guy.
This guy's name is Guy, like a guy named Guy.
Yeah, hey, guy.
It's like, hey, guy, how's it going, guy?
Like a lady named Lady.
How's it going, guy?
Not so good?
He says the EU-U.S.
deal is scandalous, a disaster with not one concession from the American side.
Badly negotiated.
Well, it looks like Trump arted the deal this then, right?
I mean, I'm glad to have good news.
That's the only time you get good news is Europe complaining.
And so this guy, guy, he is the Belgian politician who served as the prime minister of Belgium from 1999 to 2008, and he was a member of the European Parliament from 2009 until 2024.
So he's saying this is a horrible deal, but a lot of other, but some other European people, they're not excited about the deal, but they're glad that we got the deal.
So here's the AP's headline.
The United States EU deal sets a 15% tariff on most goods and averts the threat of a trade war with a global shock.
So that's the important thing that the Europeans were afraid there was going to be a trade war, which was going to hurt both sides, the United States and Europe.
So they feel like, okay, we avoided the trade war, and so we'll take this deal, even though we're not crazy about it.
But some people are screaming about it.
Victor Orban's one of them.
This guy guy is one of them.
The French prime minister said that.
So here's the deal.
Let me just tell you what the deal.
It's what's in the deal.
So there's going to be a 15% tariff on most goods coming from Europe.
So that's a lot less than it was before.
So Trump wanted to do 30.
So it's down to 15.
The sweeping announcement came after President Donald Trump and European Commission Chief Ursula Vanderleyen met briefly at Trump's Turnbury Golf Course in Scotland.
It was a very interesting negotiation.
I think it's going to be great for both parties, Trump said.
The agreement was a good deal for everybody and a giant deal with lots of countries.
Von der Leyen said the deal will bring stability.
It will bring predictability.
That's very important for our businesses on both sides of the Atlantic.
Trump, so here's a big deal about it.
Trump said the EU had agreed to buy $750 billion worth of U.S. energy.
So I'm going to guess that's mostly liquefied natural gas.
That was the, I think, so when they blew up the Nord Stream pipeline, it screwed Europe because Europe got their energy from Russia.
And so now they're paying two, three, four times higher the amount that they were paying for energy, and it's screwing their economy.
And so now they have to make a deal with the United States to buy almost a trillion dollars worth of energy, fossil fuels, from the United States, and another $600 billion more than it already is in America, as well as make the majority military equipment.
So they're going to invest $600 billion more.
So they're going to spend $750 billion on American energy and then invest $600 billion into the United States.
And I'm going to guess a lot of that's going to come through buying military equipment.
Because that's the only thing we really make here anymore.
He said tariffs for automobiles and everything else will be straight across tariff 15% and meant that the United States exporters have the opening up of all the European countries.
So now we can- I want to get a queer Jaguar.
Von der Leyden said the 15% tariffs were across the board, all-inclusive, and that indeed basically the European market is open.
So this turns out this is an amazing deal that Donald Trump negotiated for the United States.
And the later news conference away from Turnberry, she said the $750 billion in additional U.S. energy purchases was actually over the next three years and would help ease the dependence on natural gas from Russia.
Yeah, that's what the United, that's why we blew up the Nord Stream pipeline because we wanted to take away the energy sales from Russia to Europe.
And we want the United States to step in and do that.
And also, there's an idea that Israel could do it with all the gas, the half a trillion dollars that's underneath Gaza.
So those are the two big things they wanted to do.
They wanted to get United States and Israel being exporters of energy to Europe and not Russia.
And that's why they blew up the pipeline.
And the fact that Europe went along with that shows you that Europe is broken.
Their leadership is broken.
And the fact that they would undermine their own economy and be toadies for the United States military and blowing up the Nord Stream pipeline, that's exactly what that was.
And they're screwing themselves.
I don't know why the people of Europe don't overthrow this.
These maniacs who are running the European Union, because that's what they are.
No guns.
Oh, that's right.
They don't have guns.
Bring a spork, losers.
Dry wizardry.
That's your guns.
In the meantime, there will be work to do on other fronts.
Vander Leyden had a mandate to negotiate because the European Commission handles trade for member countries.
So individual countries don't do their own trade deals.
The European Union has this woman do it for all the countries.
Great.
But the Commission must now present the deal to member states and the EU lawmakers.
Well, ultimately, so they have to approve it.
And I'm going to guess they will approve it.
Me too.
Because we already know their bitches.
Trump has spent months threatening most of the world with large tariffs in hopes of shrinking major U.S. trade deficits with many key trading partners.
More recently, he had hinted that any deal with the EU would have to buy down a tariff rate of 30% that had been set to take effect.
But during his comments, before the agreement was announced, the president was asked if he'd be willing to accept tariff rates lower than 15%, and he said no.
And so he did not.
He got the 15%.
And our friend Arnard Bertrand, he tweeted this out.
This is absolutely extraordinary and beyond parody.
A reporter rightly asked von der Leyen, what are the U.S. concessions?
What is the U.S. giving up in this deal?
She says none, because the starting point was an imbalance, a surplus on our side, meaning the European side had an surplus and a deficit on the U.S. side.
So we wanted to rebalance the trade relation.
This is who we have negotiating on EU's behalf.
Someone so thoroughly captured.
She's repeating almost word for word Trump's insane rhetoric that trade deficits are somehow proof America is a victim that deserves compensation.
I'm going to get to that in a second because trade deficits actually actually, in a way, signal the United States' strength economically.
And I'll show you that in a second.
But here she is.
Here's the question.
Anybody else?
Yes, ma'am.
I have a question for the EU, Mr. President.
What are the U.S. concessions?
What is the U.S. giving up in the deal?
So as we, the starting point was an imbalance, a surplus on our side and a deficit on the U.S. side.
And we wanted to rebalance the trade relation.
And we wanted to do it in a way that trade goes on between the two of us across the Atlantic, because the two biggest economies should have a good trade flow between us.
And I think we hit exactly the point we wanted to find.
Rebalance, but enable trade on both sides, which means good jobs on both sides of the Atlantic, means prosperity on both sides of the Atlantic.
And that was important for us.
So it's as if Trump kind of dictated this deal.
And so here's why us having a trade deficit with Europe, this, according to our friend Arnard Bertrand, Arno, Arno Bertrand, I like saying Arnold, but Arno Bertrand, he says, because this person, Sleeknub, says, except she's right.
And pretty much all the power is in the hands of the United States.
So what did you expect?
Arno says, no, she's not right.
Trump's trade deficit victim narrative is obviously manufactured gaslighting designed to justify wealth extraction, meaning we're going to extract wealth from Europe.
And that we're not actually a victim.
And here's why we're not actually a victim.
The United States benefits enormously from trade deficits by getting real goods in exchange for dollars that they can print for free.
So we, because we're the reserve currency of the world and we just print money, so we print that money for free and then we get goods for it.
So the ability to consume more than you produce is a sign of economic strength and the consequence of the dollar as the world's reserve currency.
So we're actually, it's a sign of our strength, not our weakness, that we can print money and import more stuff than we export.
That's actually a sign of our strength economically because our dollar is the world reserve currency that everybody has to use.
This is just pure propaganda to make tribute collection sound reasonable.
So what he means there is this is just trying to make it sound reasonable what the European Union just negotiated with Trump.
Yeah, well, you know why they're here's the bottom line.
Trump is all he's doing.
This is why he's never going to release any of the files on nothing because to him this is the biggest deal.
He is jockeying for a better position for America within the new world order.
He's not doing the thing of F the New World Order that I want.
That's why that Nazi broad is going along with him because either the new world order is off.
She wants to save it too.
So all this thing of tribute, it's all it is.
Really, no one should be happy, but that's what it is.
And so someone said, hey, Grock, does Arno have a point?
So Grock actually agrees with Arno.
Brock says, yes, Arno has a strong point.
The U.S. trade deficit isn't victimhood.
It's a perk of dollar dominance, letting America import goods cheaply while exporting printed currency.
Von der Leyen's rebalancing echoes Trump's protectionist spin, overlooking how deficits boost U.S. consumption and power.
The EU concessions in this deal highlight the imbalance in Washington's favor.
So the imbalance is in our favor.
So she did do a bad job, but this is all about them trying to save the new world order as Kurt Mexico.
Where the weapons come from, they don't pay for NATO.
NATO, when I say New World Order, I mean scumbag NATO.
And they're so into Ukraine, right?
Yep.
And they're not going to help Ukraine and they can't.
I want Trump to cut Ukraine off right away, but he's not going to.
So this is saving NATO scumbags.
So this guy says the deal is scandalous, a disaster, with not one concession from the American side badly negotiated.
I showed you that before.
This guy's name is Guy, and he's the former Belgian prime minister.
So this guy says, oh, guy, guy, guy, this is your fault.
You enthusiastically supported Cutting Europe off from Russian gas.
Making yourself reliant on U.S. energy, a big point of leverage Trump now uses.
Don't trust America.
Do you not read history?
We're not to be trusted.
That's your fault, guy.
Why did you?
So he's saying, Guy, why did you go along with the Ukraine war?
Why did you go along with blowing up your energy supply?
You're the one who did this because now that gives Trump all the leverage because you need energy and you can't get it from Russia.
And you did that to yourself, guy.
Countries aren't real, and oligarchs that live in Switzerland control most of everything.
That's why, guy.
Guy, you supported sending all Europe's weapons to Ukraine, making yourself even more reliant on the U.S. for your defense, a big point of leverage Trump now uses.
You are the ones imposing tariffs on China and generally moving to worsen relations with Beijing, making yourself even more reliant on trade with the United States.
You keep moving, you're removing your own leverage, but then expect to get the same deal as if you still had it.
Cake-ism as at its most stupid.
So cake-ism means you want to have your cake and eat it too.
So you want to blow up the Nord Stream pipeline, but you also want to keep getting cheap energy.
You also want to have leverage, but you can't give your leverage away and still have your leverage.
So that's called cakeism.
Did you ever hear?
I heard that.
I want all the stuff.
I want to eat it and then still have it.
In February, the Russian president said of European distaste for the conflict with President Trump: quote, Trump, with his character and persistence, will bring order there fairly quickly.
And all of them, just watch it, will happen fast.
We'll be sitting obediently at their master's feet and sweetly wagging their tails.
That's what the President Putin said of the European Union.
And that's exactly what's happening.
They're all sitting obediently at Trump's feet and sweetly wagging their tails.
He was right.
Putin was right.
We all saw Princess Ursula Minor and Trump announce this deal, sitting at her master's feet, although thankfully not wagging her tail.
You people are pathetic, fat-track bullies.
Is that fiat?
What does that say?
Black track bullies on Trump.
And it's your fault, guy.
So it is.
Here's one more.
Collingwood says: if the EU still had good relations with Russia and China, they would never have had to sign this deal.
In fact, they would have been quite powerful positioned to force Trump into concessions in much the same way the Chinese have.
But the European Union didn't do that.
They maneuvered themselves into a pathetically subordinate position to Washington, a process literally cheered on by Guy who, if he had any problems with the course of events, it was that they were going neither quickly or extremely enough.
Well, the price of that is having a big, crass orange oaf put you over his knee and spank you until you accept a crappy deal.
And that's exactly what they did.
We're like their Israel.
So I didn't, yes, I didn't understand.
We are like there.
I didn't, I still don't understand why Europe went along with NATO and Joe Biden and Anthony Blinken and blowing up the Nord Stream pipeline and going along with the Ukraine deal and making enemies out of China.
I still don't understand.
That was all we could see it was not in their interest.
And I've been asking everybody, why are they doing this?
And people, everybody from Jeffrey Sachs to everyone else says, well, they're just puppets of the United States, but they don't know.
Nobody has given me a reason why they're such willing puppets of the United States.
They're trader is to their own countries.
They would like global governance is their words, not mine.
And so they thought everything was going according to plan and Trump wouldn't get in and they were going to have their thing together.
So they went away with every evil thing that they did to their own people because these countries don't matter.
They serve transnational oligarchs.
That's why.
Trillionaires whose names are.
That's why.
That's why.
So your countries aren't real assholes.
Why do you think they flooded them with immigrants from countries we blew up?
Because your country ain't real.
So there you go.
And that's why the people voted for Brexit, because they wanted to keep their country and they didn't want to be a part of this garbage.
And then they didn't do Brexit, really.
And then they blame Brexit.
So enjoy it, Europe.
Good thing you don't have guns, right?
Because there ain't shit you could do about it.
There's nothing you could do about it.
You are now the servants of the global transnational billionaires.
That's what this is.
So here's how Reuters covered it.
European governments and companies reacted with both relief and concern on Monday to the EU-U.S.
framework trade deal.
Some saw it as unbalanced, but were happy it avoided a deeper trade war.
The agreement will see the U.S. impose a 15% import tariff on most EU goods.
It's half the previously threatened rates, but much more than what Europeans hoped for.
Cynthia Alcidi is a senior researcher at the Center for European Policy Studies.
I think this is a glass half full, half empty.
It is half full because there is this sense of relief and that the war's outcome is screwed, where the worst outcome could have been 30% tariffs or even a trade war.
On the other side, this is not what they wanted, Samina.
You asked for a zero-type trade agreement.
And this is not what we had.
The 15% baseline tariff is half the threatened number, but compares to an average U.S. import tariff rate of around 2.5% last year.
Many of the specifics of the deal were not immediately known.
The agreement included an investment pledge above the $550 billion deal signed with Japan last week.
Hildegard Müller is president of Germany's auto association, the VDA.
She was relieved the deal was struck, but warned industry would still take a hit.
The deal will also burden consumers in the United States.
It will not only have consequences for Europe.
In the long run, products will become more expensive.
I believe that this is why it is not a good day for international trade or for consumers.
German Chancellor Friedrich Mertz welcomed the deal as it averted a trade war.
While French government ministers said the agreement had some merits, but wasn't balanced.
One leading French minister said more talks would be needed before the deal could be formally concluded.
So it seems like most of the people in Europe aren't crazy about the deal, but they're going to accept it.
That's because they got no choice.
He grabbed Versala.
What's her dumb name?
Yes, they got him.
Versula undressed by the pussy.
They got him.
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There's a new CDC director.
Yeah, it is confirmed.
Today, confirmed.
Yeah, we can talk about her.
Congratulations, Dr. Suzanne Menares, PhD, on her Senate confirmation on the 21st director of the CDC.
So I just want to show Secretary Kennedy tweeted out that, so there's a lot of pushback against her becoming the CDC director.
And he says Twitter posts that erroneously attribute Biden-era tweets supporting masks, lockdowns, vaccine mandates to my CDC director nominee Suzanne Menares, have understandably provoked agita within the Maha movement.
I hand-picked Susan for this job because she is a longtime champion of Maha values and a caring, compassionate, yeah, she's a longtime champion of Maha Values.
And as soon as she receives her mRNA shot, she'll be ready to assume the position, if you know what I mean.
But Mary Talley Bowden did not like it.
She quoted them, saying, quoted her RFK saying the FDA has approved the mRNA vaccines as safe and has demonstrated efficacy associated with them.
We can have the confidence that we can put it in ourselves and our children, Secretary Kennedy.
And then also, I hand-picked Susan for this job because she is a longtime champion of Maha values.
So she's quoting Susan Menarez being a very pro the mRNA vaccines.
And then she's contrasting that with RFK saying he handpicked her.
And so here's so the CD.
So I just want to give you some of the pushback, and then we're going to bring in our guests to give us the straight dope on this.
The CDC is not what it was.
It's become a firewall between you and real health.
Dr. Susan Menares is no rookie.
She's a lead in biosecurity, disaster prep, and tech.
But that's the point.
Public health is shifting from prevention to containment, from food-based healing to biotech solutions.
Also, this is an account called Doge AI.
And so this is interesting.
The Public Health Improvement Act represents a critical overhaul of the CDC operations.
Section 3 strategic plan limitations force the agency to focus strictly on communicable diseases rather than bureaucratic mission creep into non-health domains.
Transferring eight major offices to the National Institute of Health or the NIH under Section 7 streamlines public health functions while cutting redundant bureaucracy.
The National Center for Chronic Disease Prevention alone had $1.2 billion budget with questionable outcomes on obesity and diabetes rates.
Menara's confirmation aligns with Section 2's 12-year term limits, ensuring leadership accountability.
While the Senate debate exposed partisan tensions, the structural reforms finally imposed fiscal discipline on an agency that spent $12.3 billion last year with 47 separate programs duplicating state health department functions.
This legislative-executive synergy between Trump's appointees and congressional Republicans demonstrates how serious governance can rein in bloated institutions.
So let me bring in our guest to talk about this.
Mary Holland.
She's the author, speaker, and she's the CEO of Children's Health Defense, an organization focused on legal strategies to defend children's health and obtain justice for those injured.
Before joining CHD in 2019, she taught at NYU School of Law for 17 years and lectured at Columbia Law School on international human rights advocacy.
Welcome back to the show, Mary.
How are you?
I'm good.
Good to be here.
It was an interesting day.
So, so what do you make of this?
So, because a lot of people are saying she's a globalist, here's another person, Ann Mattson.
She's host of If People Only Knew, and she says what a disaster she is.
And then Dana Paris says, I quit.
And then Champagne Joshi, he has a whole thread, and we'll get to it in a second.
He says she's not a doctor.
She's not a frontline scientist.
She's a biotech insider who spent 20 years building public-private partnerships between the feds and big pharma.
So what do you say?
Yeah, so I want us to recall, Jimmy, that Bobby Kennedy's first pick, Congressman Dave Weldon, a physician, had been outspoken when he was in Congress about vaccines and their likely or their possible connection to autism.
And you'll remember that his confirmation hearing was called off five minutes before the hearing because it was clear they didn't have the votes.
So Susan Menares had been acting as the acting director of the CDC since January when Trump and Kennedy came in.
And what I've understood, and Kennedy himself has put this out there in an X, is that she's been very helpful.
Now, she's not a doctor.
She's definitely been in on the DARPA of health.
She's definitely connected to the bio-weapons world.
There's no question about that.
Her expertise is in artificial intelligence.
And if Kennedy is going to get done what he wants to get done in a very short period of time, and he's gotten a lockdown in the first couple months, he's going to need to be assessing all of the Medicaid, all of the Medicare records that he has access to, and looking at what are the correlations.
Do these medicines work or not?
Do these vaccines work or not?
Did they cause autism or not?
Did they cause Parkinson's?
Did they do what?
What do they all do?
So my understanding is he did handpick her.
He does trust her.
The key people in his administration trust her.
And I think for those of us who have worked with Bobby Kennedy, as I have for a long time outside of his office now at HHS, I think he has to have the benefit of his picks.
It wasn't Going to be easy, Jimmy, to get anybody confirmed.
This is the first time the CDC director has been subject to congressional confirmation.
That was something that the Biden administration did to basically thwart whatever the next administration would want to do.
So, do I have reservations?
Yes, candidly, I am very concerned.
Her resume is not exactly the resume that, you know, I would have wanted.
It's certainly not Dave Weldon's resume.
But she is the person that Bobby Kennedy wants in that job.
And the most important thing is we now have a director at the CDC.
It's been rudderless since January.
So you're putting a little faith in RFK's judgment.
You're putting faith in that she's there to fulfill his agenda.
And she's an expert on AI.
And so he wants to use a lot of AI to generate a lot of data that he's going to be to make decisions.
And remember that he's told us that by September, he's going to give us the first-line answers about what's causing the autism epidemic, now affecting 1 in 31 kids.
And he's also going to be having to submit the strategy report for Make America Healthy Again.
That's coming up soon.
And so he needs support.
He needs somebody in the job.
And he obviously has a lot of faith in her.
So let me just read a little bit more from Champaign Joshi's thread.
She's been embedded in BARDA.
Could you tell people what BARDA is?
Yeah, BARDA is really the sort of bioweapons location within HHS.
No question, it's connected to the security agencies during the Biden administration and the first Trump administration.
They were, you know, cheerleaders for COVID.
They were cheerleaders for some of the worst medical interventions.
You know, BARDA is not our friend.
So she's been embedded in BARDA, DHS, the NSC, ARPA-H, and now she's poised to lead the CDC.
So that's got a lot of people nervous.
And so let's see.
Let's see.
Her government, she began in government in 2006 at the American Association for the Advancement of Sciences, which is the AAAS policy fellowship program, a program that is lauded for promoting science diplomacy.
It serves as a fast track to influential positions at the highest levels of government.
Well, she certainly got there pretty fast.
And here's where it gets interesting.
At BARDA, she helped stand up Project BioShield, funneling billions into pharmaceutical countermeasures for theoretical CBRN, chemical, biological, radiological, and nuclear threats.
BARDA stands for Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority.
Project BioShe is the same program that gave us those shady COVID vaccine contracts, the same one that built the pandemic industrial complex.
So this is the problem people have.
There's a little bit more.
Here's a brief background of the Project BioShield.
So I don't need to need to go into that.
So she's been in BARDA.
She's been, so that's why a lot of people are calling her a deep state mole.
And Operation Warp Speed and 2020 used BARDA as its funding hub, deploying over $2 billion to vaccine developers, including Moderna and AstraZeneca.
BARDA's project NextGen, a sub-initiative, extends contracts to developers using cutting-edge tech.
Geovax received $24 million.
So this is all the funding that she was a part of at BARDA.
Yeah, she's coming from inside the deep state that deals with health.
There's no doubt about that.
Zero doubt about that.
It's not the resume, like I said, I would have most wanted to see.
And I think, frankly, as a non-physician and the first non-physician since 1953, it's not going to be easy for her.
But, you know, I do believe that Kennedy has an agenda to make America healthy again.
This was not his first choice, but it's been a strong second choice, and she's now confirmed.
It would have been very hard, Jimmy.
This was a vote along party lines.
It was completely along party lines.
It's not going to be easy to get anybody confirmed, candidly.
So this is from Time Magazine.
Time magazine said that she is the right choice to lead the CDC, which makes everyone uncomfortable when you see.
That made me uncomfortable.
Right.
When Time magazine says it, yeah, I hear you.
I think there's real reasons for concern.
She's going to have to prove to the people who really are behind Make America Healthy Again and getting out of the bioweapons business when it comes to health.
She's got something to prove that she really is in this for health and not for public-private partnerships and making tons of money for vaccine manufacturers and other countermeasures.
So I'll just a few more slides.
I'll just, as previously mentioned, under Obama, she moved into the White House National Security Council at the OSTP.
That's the Office of Science and Technology Policy.
Her job coordinating pandemic preparedness and building biomedical surveillance tools like telehealth and remote diagnosis.
It just so happens that those things became very popular and were normalized during the COVID pandemic.
So let me do one more.
She also ran international health cooperation efforts through the Department of Homeland Security and the OECD.
They are said to be foster, they are, how come I can't read this?
They are said to foster bilateral and multilateral collaboration in health research and innovation.
These are those public-private partnerships again.
She served as Deputy Assistant Secretary for Strategy and Data Analysis, overseeing research portfolios for Homeland Security, advanced research projects, and managing $70 billion budget.
Think NATO for bureaucrats and pharmaceutical execs.
So you're saying that this is the best we could get confirmed.
That's what you're saying.
And so that's why she's able to.
No, you're not saying that?
I'm not saying I can't speak to that, Jimmy.
This is the person that Bobby nominated after his first choice, could not get the votes.
It's somebody that he and his close team have worked with for at least six months, maybe longer.
And they believe that she has a skill set despite some very concerning things in her past.
I think it's relevant that she's worked for Republican and Democrat administrations over many years in the federal health bureaucracy.
She certainly knows her way around the health bureaucracies and particularly the bioweapons area.
It doesn't give me comfort, but I do believe that, you know, Kennedy needs the benefit of the doubt when he is picking the people who are going to run the key positions.
Okay, well, we're not saying she's a vampire.
We're just saying that she has worked for vampires for sure.
She has.
I think that's exactly right, Jimmy.
She has worked for vampires in my view.
And so she's going to have to prove that she's not in league with the vampires.
So we'll be keeping an eye on her.
Champagne had so much stuff to say about her.
She's a pharma.
He calls her a, she's not a health regulator.
He says she's a pharma venture capitalist with federal clearance.
Ginko Bioworks, by the way, is notorious for being a systemic biology Frankenstein factory.
And she gave them millions to redesign the pharmaceutical supply chain via wheat germ cell factories.
Boy, Champagne Joshi doing a deep dive on this.
Well, that's good.
No, she's deep in.
There's no question about that.
There's no question about that.
So there hasn't been any financial disclosures yet.
Her decades of industry coordination, funding disbursement, and biotech evangelism demand scrutiny.
The revolving door may not be literal, but the results are the same.
She's the embodiment of regulatory capture.
This is according to Champaign Joshi.
Throughout her career, she has directed investment into risky tech, often bypassing normal clinical trial procedures, and is now being handed the reins to recommend and influence the research of products she championed and funded.
The role exerts massive influence over markets, over mandates and public behavior.
And her demeanor during the Senate hearing, tepid, calculated, careful, not to challenge any public health or sacred cows, a seasoned technocrat playing diplomat.
And here's our last slide on this.
This isn't just about one woman.
It's about a transformation of public health into an army of military industrial complex.
Through ARPA H and BARDA and now the CDC, the biomedical state is fusing with the national security state.
And they just promoted one of their own to one of the highest positions in the land.
The convergence of her extensive industry coordination experience, her role in these agencies that explicitly partner with pharmaceutical companies and her diplomatic approach to potentially controversial health policies creates a constellation of potential conflicts that merit careful scrutiny and assumes leadership of the nation's premier public health agency.
Whose interests will she serve?
Because her record says not yours, not mine, not public health, but biotech pharma and the architects that built this machine.
But you're not supposed to know that.
So, all right.
Again, the one for me, the one bright spot in the Trump administration has been HHS.
And they're not moving as fast as lots of people want them to move.
But RFK knows something about bureaucracy and how to beat them because he's beaten them his entire career.
And so he has to cross his T's and dot every I and make sure he's got all the data in place.
So when things, when he wants to make a big change, he cannot be credibly challenged.
And so I'm still saying that for the first time in my life, the HHS is going in the right direction under RFK.
So I'm going to, I guess I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.
He did handpick her.
She must have this kind of insight and expertise that he needs.
And again, it's not your first choice.
It's not our first choice.
It's not Maha's first choice.
A lot of people are afraid of this, but we'll see.
We'll see.
And I think it absolutely, I think those are intelligent comments by Champaign Joshi.
And I definitely think we should watch this closely.
She's not acting as rogue.
She has to answer to HHS Secretary.
And as we saw in the other event today, a very high-level official at FDA was ousted.
So it's not like there won't be oversight.
I think there will be close oversight and we should definitely be watching it.
Okay.
All right.
So there we do.
We got that.
I wasn't even aware.
You know, I'm so, I had mistakenly thought that Jay Bhattacharya was in charge of the CDC and Makari was in charge of the FDA.
But of course, he's in charge of the NIH.
And when I looked into that, I'm like, what?
They don't already have a CDC director?
No, they haven't had a CDC director this whole time.
And in fact, it's been kind of RFK been acting as a default kind of CDC director.
Correct, which has its problems for sure.
So big news.
This guy, Vinny Prasad, who we've covered on this show plenty, and he did some good work on COVID, and he did some false work on COVID.
And we've challenged him on this show.
And of course, he won't come on the show.
And we challenged him to bring RFK.
He was critical of RFKs talking about ivermectin, and he gave misinformation about ivermectin, Vinny Prasad.
Somehow he ended up in a top spot at the FDA under RFK.
So he was getting it from both ends, right?
He was getting it from people like me who caught him lying about COVID.
And he was getting it from the people who were the liars about COVID because he didn't lie enough about COVID.
And he told the truth about COVID sometimes, right?
He told the truth about masks.
He told the truth a lot, a lot of stuff about lockdowns.
He told the truth about, and so, but, you know, he still lied about certain things, ivermectin being one of them.
And Steve Kirsch tweets out, so he was certainly way better in his job at FDA than we've had at somebody at the FDA in my lifetime.
So there's that, right?
So, and that's probably why RFK chose him.
And Steve Kirsch, you know, Steve Kirsch, he's the billionaire who's been on this COVID thing for since the beginning.
He knew he sniffed it out.
He said, This is what happens to people who try to protect the public from dangerous drugs.
Top FDA official reaches, so this is he, and he tweets out this.
This is from the New York Times: top FDA official resigns under pressure after turning down several new drugs and restricting use of another.
Dr. Vinny Prasad drew the ire of the right-wing influencer, Laura Loomer.
And so, this is what Laura Loomer went on a tirade after him.
And it's all about how he's a progressive and how he said bad things about Donald Trump.
And what I'll just give you a little taste of it: she says, the leftist, Vinny Prasad, the leftist saboteur undermining Trump's U.S. FDA must be fired now.
We have a crisis at the FDA.
A wolf in sheep's clothing is sabotaging President Trump's bold make America healthy again agenda.
So she calls him a self-proclaimed progressive liberal and a Bernie Sanders fanboy.
He's wormed his way into the top FDA role.
I don't think he wormed his way in.
I think RFK chose him at the Center for Bio.
So he's the head.
He's the director of the Center for Biologics Evaluation and Research.
So this is no mere bureaucratic misstep, she says.
It's catastrophic vetting failure.
So they're pretending like we didn't know all this stuff about Vinny or RFK didn't know all this stuff about Vinny when he appointed him.
And we all did know all this stuff.
We all knew that he was who he was and what he's very public.
He's very online.
He's very public.
He's online.
He's a big presence.
He does podcasts.
I mean, who cares, in my view, Jimmy, who cares who a scientist voted for two cycles ago?
It's irrelevant.
So I personally find Laura Loomer's tweet, you know, disturbing because I don't care who these people vote for.
What I care about is: are they committed to honest science?
Are they into transparency?
Are they going to put people ahead of pharmaceutical profits?
That's all I care about.
And, you know, I think, like you said, he was only in the job three months.
He had a mixed tenure.
You know, I don't think that the turbulence is probably super helpful to the FDA or to Kennedy as the head of HHS.
But I think what's really important is that they get somebody into that job right away who's well qualified, who's committed to honest science and transparency.
This is the head of this CEBR, you know, the biologics evaluation research.
That means they oversee all vaccines.
They oversee all other biological products.
You know, Prasad did just can a particular drug, Sareptra.
And once he's gone, now they recommence the shipping.
And apparently, the stock prices of some of the biotech companies have gone up since his departure.
So, you know, it's hard to read those tea leaves of exactly what went down.
I don't think it matters.
What matters is to let's get on with this program to make America healthy again.
And the FDA is critical.
And a lot of money really hinges on decisions of the FDA.
And so people are pointing, literally, even the New York Times are pointing to this tweet thread that Laura Loomer did attacking him as a progressive.
That basically said, oh, he wanted Joe Biden to win, stuff like that.
Hey, do you remember the stuff that Kelsey Gabbard said about Donald Trump?
And Bobby Kennedy, for God's sake, Bobby ran against Trump.
Let's be clear.
This is, you know, this ideological test to me is honestly offensive.
It's like, I care about people who can do their jobs in the administration, who care for the American people, who are qualified.
I don't care who somebody voted for in their personal life.
It's their own business.
I agree with you.
And I'm just thinking, so I'm suspect of why Laura Loomer did this thread now.
And well, so let's get into it.
Let's get into it.
So even though RFK supported her, supported him, according to the New York Times, it wasn't enough in the face of criticism from Ms. Loomer and lobbying of White House officials by former Senator Rick Santorum, which reached President Trump this week.
Ms. Loomer also surfaced old social media posts in which Prasad declared that he was a political liberal, so all this stuff.
So he's also, so this is, this is the real reason this happened.
And they need a cover story of why they've got rid of him.
And the cover story is Laura Loomer saying he's a progressive and he's a mole.
But the real story is this.
Dr. Prasad also faced heat for, you mentioned this just now, for cracking down on a company, Sarepta's Therapeutics, which came under heightened scrutiny after two teenagers and a 51-year-old man died of liver complications after using the company's gene therapy drugs.
Though Dr. Prasad pressured the company to stop shipping its drug, Lides, I think that's how you say it, for Duchesne muscular dystrophy.
He reversed the decision days later for young boys who can still walk and who are believed to be at lower risk for complications.
Dr. Prasad's critics argued that his actions with Levides amounted to a crusade against Sarepta, the company.
So now this former senator Santorum, who has ties to Sarepta.
So of course he's also reposted an editorial embasting Dr. Prasad on social media and called top officials at the White House to relay his concerns, according to a person familiar with the matter.
To Prasad, the danger isn't a fatal disease killing your child.
It's the prospect that someone might get a new medicine he doesn't think is worth using.
An article in Real Clear Health, which Mr. Santorum, who posted on social media, said Dr. Prasad was also the centerpiece of a Wall Street Journal opinion article whose headline called him a Bernie Sanders acolyte and maha drag.
Prasad made inroads with the political right during the pandemic, slamming public health efforts such as social distancing and putting masks on toddlers.
He has also expressed openness to supporting placebo-controlled trials of vaccines in the past, a top priority of Mr. Kennedy.
So that's the real reason.
So the real reason they got rid of Dr. Vinnie Prasad and made him resign was that he was standing in the way of big pharma profits by having safety tests and trying to protect your health instead of protect the profits of big pharma.
That's the real reason.
And Laura Loomer is a cover story.
Wouldn't you say that, Mary?
I think you're probably right.
I do think this ideological stuff is ridiculous.
And the real reason, and I wonder how much former Senator Santorum was paid for his interventions to reverse the decision on Surreptra and to get rid of Vinny Prasad.
Like I said, the real question here, this appointment doesn't have to go through Congress happily.
So the real question is: who do they have lined up to take that job?
It's a really important job.
It really is the job that's going to oversee everything that relates to qualifying or disqualifying gene therapies, other biologics, vaccines going forward.
So if they can get, they can force Vinny Prasad out for doing that.
What are the chances we're going to get anybody in who is going to be as good as Vinny Prasad or is going to have the same kind of ethics?
It doesn't seem like it, that it seems like they're going to bring in a hack that's favorable to the big pharma because that's the only thing that they'll, I mean, I don't understand why RFK would roll over so easily.
Why do you think he would roll over so easily from people?
Is it because Trump?
Do you think Trump- I don't think we know the whole story here, Jimmy.
I think you're right that this is a cover story.
I don't think we know what the pressures were.
And we don't know that Kennedy rolled over either.
And we don't know who he may have as his next appointee.
I think Makari, who leads the FDA, I don't think they want somebody who's a hack.
I don't think they're going to tolerate.
There's plenty of hacks in the HHS throughout this 80,000 person bureaucracy, but they're not going to be looking for a hack.
That's for sure.
So it's a big loss, though.
Not only was he the head of CEBIR, but he had also just been elevated to be the chief scientist and medical officer at FDA.
So they are for sure looking for somebody right away.
I think there are some really good choices out there, actually, people in DC who really care.
So I'm hopeful that they'll put somebody in right away who's going to be committed to the Make America Healthy Again agenda and not afraid to put people ahead of profits.
So it's still a bit of a mystery of who gave the order to get rid of him.
It seems like it must have come from Donald Trump or the White House.
And that's why Rick Santorum was lobbying Donald Trump and he has access to him because he's for hire.
And, you know, Donald Trump takes lots of money from big pharma.
I think in his, I think in his first administration, they gave him something like $100 million for his inaugural inauguration.
For his inauguration, yeah.
Absolutely.
Remember that when Trump came down the escalator when he had been nominated, he met with Robert Kennedy.
This is back in 2016, and Bobby Kennedy was going to head the vaccine safety commission.
And then, you know, nominee, President Tooker, I guess, elect, had taken money from pharma and the trail went dry.
So, you know, for sure, big pharma is all in the mix.
And for sure, we basically have captive regulators.
And that's what Kennedy is trying to undo.
So I don't believe that Kennedy is going to be down with putting in a hack, nor do I think Makari or the other kind of number two at FDA, Sarah Brenner.
I don't think that's what they want to get.
But I am troubled by what just happened.
And it's not over till it's over, Jimmy.
Yeah.
The stock prices may have gone up today, but let's see what happens when the new person comes in.
So, yeah, it just reminds me of when Barack Obama passed Obamacare and stock prices for big pharma and health insurance companies went through the roof and or went up significantly.
Same thing happened here.
They get rid of this guy.
Stock prices for big pharma goes up.
Not a good sign.
And the fact that they can, you know, force a guy like this out under the guidance, under, you know, our RFK Jr.'s leadership, they can force this guy out doesn't give me hope that they're going to be getting someone in who's just as good.
So we'll fingers.
I mean, it doesn't fingers crossed.
I mean, Donald Trump is really betraying a lot of MAGA and now Maha with this.
This had to come from the White House.
So that's my guess.
I think that's probably right.
And don't forget that what we saw was that memo a week or so ago that was leaked through a brownstone publication of the group bio.
And they basically, it looked to be an authentic document that said, our job is to divide and conquer.
Our job is to spend $2 million for lobbying Congress to see if we can't get Kennedy out by September.
Pharma is all, they are very scared of what is going to happen come fall, not only about autism, but about this strategy document about over-medication of Americans, getting the food supply cleaned up, changing the lifestyle and the perspective of Americans and how the regulators function.
So there's absolutely an all-out push by pharma and by biotech in particular to divide and conquer.
And this would seem to be, I would say, they want a point here to get Prasad out.
But I think we have to wait and see what's going to happen next.
Okay.
Well, Mary Holland of the Children's Health Defense Organization, I really appreciate you taking time, giving us your insight on this.
It's always good to check in with you.
You know everything about all the Maha goings on.
And thanks for your expertise.
And I appreciate you.
Hopefully we'll talk to you again soon under better circumstances.
I agree.
Okay.
Thank you so much, Jimmy.
Thank you, Mary.
Palestine Online tweeted out Dave Matthews.
And if you see, watch this.
So this is the popular musician, Dave Matthews.
He's wearing a kefaifa.
Is that how you say it?
I consider it a burqa or a terror implement.
It is a terrorist.
That is just like swastika.
So here, watch them.
He has stopped the genocide and stopped killing children on signs, and he's holding them over his head while wearing a kefifa at his concert.
And his concerts are gigantic.
play stadiums and people are cheering.
We love you guys.
We love you.
So that's singer Dave Matthews on his better late than never tour, I guess.
Yeah.
But you'll always be ahead of the curve on issues like this if you come out and see me this Sunday in Oxnard at the comedy club in Oxnard, California, or in Rutherford, New Jersey, or Manhattan at the Village Underground, or in Calgary, Edmondson, or Vancouver.
But there it is.
So they've lost most pop singers and celebrities.
If they lose Bono, it's over.
If they lose Bono.
Yeah, I was thinking that.
I mean, that's a stadium full of people.
And so a lot of people tried to do this.
So a lot of Zionists and a lot of botan accounts from Israel and the Mossad.
They did.
Dave Who?
Yeah.
Literally no idea who Dave Matthews is and can't be arsed Googling him.
I'm going to stop it right there.
His fans, I know this for a fact.
My cousin, for example, who like toured with Fish liked him.
A lot of rich American Jewish kids into Fish.
So that's a foreigner saying that shit because that hippie stuff was very, very popular with American diaspora college Jews.
That's who made his audience.
And those are the kids that Israel lost because they psychotically put their crimes on TikTok, which isn't China's fault.
Larry Ellison is the one behind TikTok, not China.
He gets all that info.
So the people saying, who's Dave?
I don't know who.
I'm not going to Google.
Well, Dave Matthews is one of the most successful touring and recording acts of the past three decades.
Here's a concise overview.
Here's a concise overview of his success.
His album sales and charts performance.
He's released 10 studio albums.
Nine reached the top 10.
Nine out of 10 of his studio albums reached the top 10.
Yeah, well, not shitty Israeli rave music, so they haven't heard of it.
Including three number one albums.
Hey, look at the bright side of October 7th.
At least you didn't have to listen to that shitty Israeli rave music anymore, right?
So that's also his debut under the table and dreaming in 1994 went six times platinum in the United States, selling over 6 million copies.
Total U.S. album sales exceeded 20 million with global estimates around 38 million records sold.
And his touring success, well, his renown for their live performances consistently ranking among the highest-grossing touring acts.
Who is this guy?
Who's this guy?
I'm not going to look him up.
I probably used to explain to Shlomo Botstein from Israel, the bot, that's not a real person.
Any of this, it's outrageous.
From 1992 to 2023, Dave Matthews' band played over 2,000 shows, grossing over a billion dollars in ticket sales.
In 2022, they grossed 77.2 million from just 46 shows, and their 2024 Summer Tool tour sold over 500,000 tickets across 35 shows.
Their annual summer tours are a cultural staple, drawing multi-generational fans.
So I guess anti-Semitism is the Buffalo Wings at TGI Fridays, for God's sake, right?
I mean, those are good numbers.
And then you see people like this.
So you saw these kind of tweets.
Useful idiots for Palestine.
So they're trying to make it out like if you're for Palestine, you're some kind of mask-wearing woke knucklehead instead of a regular person.
And a European Union and Ukraine flag in your bio.
That is peak stupid right there.
That is peak stupid.
So you got a Nazi Ukraine flag in your bio, useful idiots.
Boy, that's real funny.
What it actually looks like, Kurt, is that Zionism has lost all of the planet Earth at once and seemingly overnight.
Yeah.
They've lost everybody.
All the Jews moved to Cyprus, and who's going to fight the war for you?
You're going to have 60-year-old infantrymen like Ukraine recently approved.
They're sending 60-year-olds now.
Do you know that?
And then they do this.
This is another one of the things they do.
They go, I survived the gods of mass starvation genocide, and all I got is obese.
So they're modeling.
Is that Randy Fine?
So, yeah, right?
Is that Randy Fine?
So again, they're doing that thing where they pretend it's not happening.
But I have faith.
Best of luck.
I have faith that Israel and the Zionists will gain the world's good faith soon again by being insulting and abusive to everyone.
Remember, being horrible makes everyone love you.
And when that doesn't work anymore, everyone needs to be afraid of you.
And when that doesn't work anymore, well, then it's game over.
And that's where we are now for the Zionists.
It's game over.
Come on, Israel.
Have you tried being more pushy?
We're at the turning point right now, Kurt.
Nobody's afraid of Zionists anymore.
They're not afraid of Israel.
Rock bands are speaking out.
Actors are speaking out.
It's becoming okay to do no matter who tries to stop it.
The whole world is doing it.
Yeah, well, it is kind of gross.
I mean, when you think about it, that they managed to do a full Holocaust in broad daylight with everybody like, is it okay to say that?
And I'm talking about myself.
I wasn't comfortable saying genocide, even though legally what the victims of the Holocaust agreed on at Nuremberg is that is genocide.
That's on the books.
I didn't feel comfortable saying it.
And now I have that feeling that what's his name?
Finkelstein had Norman when he goes, I'm mad I didn't go harder.
I feel like that.
Like, I'm disgusted every time I hear somebody talk about it who doesn't know what's going on.
Like, what's going on?
Are you going to just pretend nothing's going on?
How long is that going to last for you?
Well, it's up.
I think it's over.
I think when mainstream pop acts, who are one of the biggest touring acts currently and of the last three decades, are on stage doing that, holding up those signs.
It's over.
They've lost it, right?
And somebody tweeted me that Dave, he's been consistent, Dave, at that band.
Dave Matthews.
He's been consistent.
Yeah.
Good.
So, you know, I listened to Keaton and Russ.
They're the two Jews.
And they predict that Israel will be over in five years.
I know that Tim Poole predicted that it would happen in 10 to 20 years, that nobody in the United States would be supportive of them.
And Keaton and Russ say it's going to happen quicker, and they're Jews.
Did Tim bring that up to Netanyahu and the Nelk boys at the Chatham House meeting?
I don't know.
But so there we go.
So there you have it.
I hope Keaton and Russ are correct on this.
I'll defer to my two Jew guest hosts.
I don't listen to Arabs.
I'm a good person.
I would never listen to a Muslim.
Jews are who told me what's happening.
Both the ones that don't like this evil shit and the ones who do that bragged about it on TikTok like the geniuses they are.
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