On a recent episode of his podcast, Joe Rogan and his guest Tim Dillon mocked The Spectator’s associate editor Douglas Murray for promoting “war tourism” and the notion that people should be barred from commenting on political issues in countries they’ve never visited Rogan specifically imitated Murray’s British accent to say, “You’ve never beeeeen?” and insist that traveling to a war zone before criticizing anyone involved in the war is basic “courtesy.” Jimmy and Americans’ Comedian Kurt Metzger discuss whether Joe was mimicking Jimmy’s previous mockery of Murray from his appearance on Rogan’s podcast. Plus segments on Marco Rubio’s announcement that the Trump administration is ready to wash its hands of the Ukraine War, the White House antisemitism task force furiously backpedaling over the demand letter “mistakenly” sent to Harvard and the Trump administration announcing it will soon begin importing cheaper pharmaceuticals from Canada. Also featuring Mike MacRae and Stef Zamorano. And a phone call from JD Vance!
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Hello, who's this?
Hey, what's up, dude?
It's JD Vance.
Yeah.
Hello, Mr. Vice President.
Nice to hear from you again.
Finally, a caller who doesn't make me so bad I get a headache.
Well, that makes one of you on earth.
Jimmy, not to brag, but I'm on a roll.
You mean making people mad?
Yeah, dude.
You know how I angered the entire nation of China recently?
Yes, I do.
Well, I outdid myself once again.
They said that JDV couldn't do it, but I'm here to say suck it, haters.
I pissed off an entire continent, the continent of Europe.
Is that so?
Yup.
Which I don't really know why that's a continent.
The continent is really Eurasia, right?
Europe, that's just Europe's way of saying we are not Asians.
So don't even try that shit.
Where's the dividing line between Europe and Asia?
We don't know.
Somewhere in Russia.
It's too cold to see it, but it's there.
Trust us.
Wherever it is in Russia where Russians start looking kind of Asian, that's the line.
Now you're in Asia.
Okay.
What did you say, though?
So I was giving an interview to a website called Unheard, which we probably shouldn't be giving interviews to.
But they were asking me what I thought our relationship with our European allies should look like.
Okay.
So I said they should defend themselves and not depend on NATO.
They should listen to their far-right extremist parties.
And then I said something really weird.
What was that?
I said that back in 2003, they should have spoken up more against the Iraq war.
That they should have opposed American military efforts.
And if they had, maybe that whole Iraq war disaster wouldn't have happened.
So really it was their fault if you think about it.
Yeah, so I basically blame the Iraq war on European countries.
That very well might be the most asinine public statement I've ever heard an elected official make, and that's saying quite a lot.
Thank you.
So first of all, you're saying that Europe should have stood up to the United States back then, opposed our foreign policy.
Well, what if Europe did that now?
What if they oppose our foreign policy, say, with regards to Israel or anything else?
We would bomb them, probably.
They're not allowed to do that.
But they should have done it in 2003?
They would have been allowed to do it then?
The president wasn't president then, so yes.
Did you oppose the Iraq war?
No, I joined the Marines in 2003.
So you fought in the Iraq war?
Oh, no, not even close.
I was a military journalist.
So I would write articles and take photos for the military newspapers.
I even went to Iraq for a few months in a non-combat role and took pictures.
But most of the time I was stationed in the U.S. But enough to qualify for the GI Bill, so I got free college.
I'm very proud of my military service.
It sounds like a joke to me.
You weren't there, man.
You wouldn't understand.
Civilians never do.
I still wake up in the middle of the night in a cold sweat thinking that I missed a deadline.
My Indian wife Usha has to soothe me.
Maybe it was just a dream.
You don't actually have to write 2,000 words by Friday about a cool new model of Jeep that we get to drive around the base.
PTSD is very real, my friend.
Yeah, it sounds truly horrific.
Anyways, I suppose the Europeans are mad at you for suggesting they're to blame for the U.S. invasion of Iraq, huh?
Oh, yeah, they're mad.
But they don't know who they're dealing with.
You see, such accusations are part of my culture.
The idea of doing something terrible and stupid and then blaming other people for it, saying, why did you let me do that terrible thing?
Is central to the thinking of the white trash coward.
And that's what I am.
I am a proud white trash coward.
Proud?
Very proud.
Our mouths have been writing checks that our asses can't cash for 16 generations in my family.
The European mind can't conceive of sniveling little shits like me or the bullshit we can concoct.
I suppose not, huh?
And when the time comes to really piss off the Euro trash, I'm going to say what you hear on podcasts sometimes, which is that the real villain of World War II was Churchill.
Screw the Iraq war.
I'm going to say they were wrong in World War II.
Take that.
They will lose their minds, and I won't care.
Go eat snails or whatever.
You really know how to piss people off.
That's the job.
And no one's better at it than a spineless liar with no integrity or moral compass, which is what I am.
I have to agree with you then.
As I'm fond of telling my wife, Usha, you know, if I were a man with any character whatsoever, you would be a white woman.
Some people say it's important to continue to date and court your wife even after you're married.
I say it's important to keep negging them.
It keeps them in their place.
What is negging?
Oh, you don't know what negging is?
No.
It's when you say negative, like mean things to a woman to get her to like you.
It's like reverse psychology.
It's something that you like the worst types of dudes you'll ever hear use that expression.
Well, I got to say, that's one of the nastiest sentiments I've ever heard.
But oddly, you don't make me mad.
I think it's because you're so contemptible that I can't get it.
I can't get invested in literally anything you say.
Well, good thing you're a rare bird.
Otherwise, I'd be out of a job.
Well, I got to go.
I have an interview with another far-right European website, and I'm thinking of implying that Hitler was misunderstood.
That'll ruffle some feathers for sure.
Jimmy, I really love my life right now.
Maybe like I'm exactly where God wants me to be.
I'm going to go step on some bugs for fun.
Yeah.
Establishment media sets of artists fighting.
So good luck.
Bullshit we can't afford.
Watch and see as a jack dog.
Comedium speeds and jumps the medium and hits him head on.
It's the chimney tour show.
Joe Rogan actually ripped Charles Murray's bullshit.
This is almost the exact same way we were ripping it, which makes me feel good.
So remember what remember he pretended to be shocked.
When I was a kid, I used to watch the Marx Brothers, and there was a woman named Margaret Dumont, and she would go, I never.
Yeah, right.
And that's the equivalent of what he does right here.
Have you been to the crossing point?
When were you last there at all?
You've never been.
Talking about an issue.
You've never been.
No, sir.
I've never been.
I'm going to sell t-shirts with the picture of Mr. Bean.
You've never been.
That's my big idea.
That's great.
Merch.
You've never been?
You've never been.
And so that's him.
You've never been.
Where's my fainting couch?
Where's my clutching pearls in my fainting couch?
So he's acting there.
That's called acting.
And that's why everybody picked up on it because it's so fake.
You've never been.
Yeah, that's what that English degree is really paying dividends.
Yeah.
And then he goes on to say, in a region you haven't even had the courtesy to visit whilst developing all of these views about it.
So this guy has handlers.
He has IDF handlers.
That's how he got to see Israel and Palestine because he was the IDF took him.
Because I don't know if you know, about 203 journalists had the courtesy to visit the checkpoints and the IDF killed them.
Which was quite rude.
You have the courtesy to dodge snipers.
So Charles Murray has handlers.
And his husband's going to be jealous when he realizes just how hard Douglas Murray's handlers have fucked him.
I was going to say, his handlers, they do not deserve a raise for this.
Didn't handle it too good.
He is the bait goat on a chain in Jurassic Park.
You've never been.
So Joe Rogan, let's get to it.
Joe Rogan made fun of him the same way that everybody is.
Let's watch.
Have you been there?
Have you been?
That's a good point.
Have you even.
You haven't been?
By the way, how is he in all these wars?
Can I just go to wars?
By the way, how are you allowed?
Are you allowed to just go to wars?
Can you just go to the fantasy of going?
Can I just go to wars or do I have to come back and say what people want me to say about the war?
Can I go to the wars and have my own opinions or do I have to have the opinions?
Well, it's amazing that every war that Douglas Murray's ever been to, it's exactly what he just said, that he came back with the establishment.
He went to Ukraine.
He was pro-Ukraine.
He went to Israel-Gaza, pro-Israel.
I know he's written about Iraq.
He was pro-Iraq war.
I don't think he went there.
Maybe he did.
He's pro-Iraq war.
He's written about Afghanistan, pro-Afghanistan war.
And I'm going to guarantee you he was pro-Syria War II and Libya.
He's one of those guys.
He's a neocod.
He's one of those guys.
He hasn't met a war.
He doesn't liked.
If he took a tour of North Korea and that Kim Jong-un gave him and came back and told you to have the courtesy to visit North Korea.
This is like absurd.
Yeah.
The regime took you where they wanted you to go, and you think that's like I'm supposed to think that's something.
The IDF literally dogwalked him, showed him exactly what they wanted to show him.
He gets an award from the Zionists for it in Israel.
And he's been wrong about everything.
There isn't a thing he has.
He checked his balls, had him raise his hindquarters up.
That's right.
He's wrong about the Iraq war.
There's anything he's wrong about.
Ukraine won't tell you the truth about it.
It's one of those guys.
He calls it a conspiracy if you tell the truth about how the Ukraine war came to be, which was by the United States overthrowing their democratically elected government in 2014.
You know what he is?
He's the equivalent of the Gail King, Katy Perry astronaut crew.
Yes.
He's pressed the way they were crew.
Like he's not pressed.
So let's listen to more of this.
Let's start it again.
Have you been there?
Have you never been?
Have you even...
By the way, how is he in all these wars?
Can I just go to wars?
By the way, how are you allowed?
Are you allowed to just go to wars?
You should leave.
Can you just go to the fantasy of going?
Can I just go to wars or do I have to come back and say what people want me to say about the war?
Can I go to the wars and have my own opinions or do I have to have the opinions?
Not if you want to go back.
That's right.
That's right.
It's very interesting.
This war tourism.
How do I get on this war tourism?
I'd like to go to the Ukraine.
I want to go.
I want to go.
I want to go to all this war tourism.
Do you have any awards that they can melt down and make bullets out of?
Joe, think about this.
Do I seem like a guy that has a lot of awards?
Didn't you get one of those YouTube plaques when you hit 100,000?
I don't even know where they send it.
I don't know where.
I don't know where they're sending those YouTube plaques.
A few of those.
But I like this idea of war tourism.
I like the idea of going to a war and then coming back having a very black and white theatre.
Yes.
I've been there.
I get it.
And I know.
And interesting.
Okay.
I like that.
I like that.
I love that.
You feel better than the other people.
Well, of course, there's a lot of people.
It gets very murky.
Most people I know that have been to war have a very murky, complex view of things.
Yes.
But it is good to go to a war and then come back and be as sure as you were before you came.
You don't have to go for very long.
No, you go for an hour.
Couple hours.
It's a lunch.
Yeah.
It's lunch on the front flack jacket that says press.
Tea on the front lines, and then you come back and you have all the talk.
Yeah.
So, Douglas Murray, I got an idea for a show, actually.
How about Douglas Murray tours around the world as the Anthony Bourdain of War Zones?
How about that?
You can call it a simple courtesy.
Or Mr. Bean because he's been everywhere.
You've never been.
I came up with an idea for a new coffee shop here in Austin, Jimmy.
Now that I got this hat, I've been having a lot of good ideas.
It's called Having Bean for a coffee shop.
Having been as a Douglas Murray.
I think Charles Murray has single-handedly ruined the power of the British accent to impress people.
Douglas, not Charles.
Charles with the bell curve.
Yeah, that's a bit different.
I'm talking Douglas.
Sorry.
Yeah.
It's just not sexy anymore.
It's over.
We have got to find a new dialect to intimidate us.
I think it's going to be the Swedes.
Oh, sure.
You betcha.
Okay.
Only nerds just assume you're smart because you have a British accent.
I have never assumed you're smart because you have British.
I never have the right to wear this hat.
I think most people.
I would never do that.
Let me know in the comments.
I've never asked people to say anything in the comment section before.
This is the first time.
Let me know in the comment section what do you think the next dialect is going to that we're supposed to be intimidated by because I think Murray just ruined the British one.
Yeah.
He's never been you've never been ah what's that?
No, sir, I haven't okay It seems like Douglas Murray is now is so this is all about people who are losing the narrative So that's why they have to double down so hard the Zionists are trying to prop up Douglas Murray, even though it's transparent.
It's obvious that he got his ass handed to him by a comedian.
And this whole thing about being this whole thing about being an expert, he got his ass handed to him by himself.
I really resent that form of argumentation.
Sure.
I really resent it.
I have the right to talk about whatever the hell I want.
And no one's going to stop me or try to intimidate me.
Seriously, is that a reasonable form of argument?
You haven't been through everything I've been through in my life, therefore you can't comment.
No.
In that case, nobody can talk about anything.
We might as well pack up, go home, and isolate ourselves.
In terms of wanting to listen to another person who has experienced something, yes.
Yes.
But not endlessly.
Not endlessly.
I mean, there are some people who've written about the, I mean, there are people who've written about the Holocaust who didn't experience the Holocaust and have written about it better than people who did.
The almost aggressive tone in which this is now leveled, I don't like the sound of.
Nobody's experience is completely understandable by another human being.
Nobody's.
This idea that the lived experience has to triumph over everything else is not always correct.
Lived experience over the data is a very bad direction of travel, which we've been imbibing for some time.
Imbibing.
Because we all have lived experience.
We all have personal experience.
But if we claim that, as it were, I cannot understand you and you cannot understand me because I have lived.
Well, this is an impossible game.
Because if we can never understand each other, because you have had your experience and I have had mine, then where exactly do we go?
I think personal experience, lived experience is very important.
But we also have to be able to get beyond that to say, okay, but what is the data?
What are the facts?
What are the provable discussions that we can have here?
You got knocked the F out.
He pumpkinheaded his own self.
You know what's funny?
It's like, even though this is like him talking to himself again, he's still condescending and I still don't like him.
That's right.
He kind of said to himself.
We have one more Douglas Murray thing coming up right now.
Should have had Rich Voss.
Rich Voss's argument was my favorite one.
What was the argument?
Where he handed Joe a paper map of Israel?
Look how small and tiny it is.
Oh, that's how I love Rich Voss because you know that's all him.
Israel did not pay him to say none of that.
He ain't no shell.
from his heart.
I like...
I like a big fan of Rich Voss.
I find him hilarious.
I have a lot of effects for Rich Voss.
What's that?
When Keith Robinson had a stroke.
I think his second stroke, Rich brought a signed headshot to put by his bed for when he woke.
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So you remember we covered this where Trump sent a letter to Harvard and he was saying, you better start, you better create an organization that looks at people's thought crimes about Israel.
And at the same time, you better stop policing people's speech around woke stuff.
So it was very contradictory.
And they were saying, hey, just like lots of the Zionists, they're all for free speech, except now.
Yeah.
Right?
Except after October 7th.
And that's what Trump is doing.
Hey, we're for free speech.
And except when it comes to Israel.
You better create an organization that looks into people's thought crimes about not liking Israel.
And if they're deemed a terrorist, we can kick them out of the country or detain them.
You better be pro-Likud, Israel.
You don't even get to pick what party in Israel you like.
You pick one.
Well, now the Trump administration is saying that that was a goof.
What?
They didn't mean to send it.
It didn't seem like one.
They didn't mean to send that letter to Harvard.
I'm not kidding.
It was dumb as shit.
Trump officials blame Mistake for setting off confrontation with Harvard.
And why this became a big deal is because Harvard, unlike Columbia, said, no, we're not going to go along with your stuff.
We're not going to police people's speech when it comes to Israel.
We're not going to do that.
So they stood up.
And now Trump's officials are saying, oh, no, we didn't mean that.
We didn't mean that.
Let me finish.
Let me finish.
Harvard University received an an-emailed letter from the Trump administration last Friday that includes a series of demands about hiring admissions, curriculum so onerous that the school officials decided they had no choice but to take on the White House.
The university announced its intentions on Monday, setting off a tectonic battle between one of the country's most prestigious universities and the U.S. president.
Then almost immediately came a frantic call from a Trump official.
The April 11th letter from the White House's task force on anti-Semitism, this official told Harvard, should not have been sent.
And it wasn't authorized.
We didn't do it, wait, wait, wait, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Can we take that email back?
The letter was sent by the acting general counsel of the Department of Health and Human Services, Sean Cavani, or Cavini, according to three other people.
Mr. Cavini is a member of the anti-Semitism task force.
Oh, shut up.
They finally.
Oh, we need a task force because all the anti-Semitism.
Where'd it come in from?
I know.
What a collection of dipshits.
They finally overstepped what they demanded that the university change its name from Harvard to Harvey Weinstein.
That's what I heard.
Anyway, it is unclear what prompted the letter to be sent last Friday.
Its content was authentic, the three people said, but there were differing accounts inside the administration of how it had been mishandled.
Some people at the White House believed it had been sent prematurely, according to the three people who requested anonymity because they were not authorized to speak public.
Okay.
Others in the administration thought it had been meant to be circulated among the task force members rather than sent to Harvard.
But its timing was consequential.
The letter arrived when Harvard officials believed they could still avert a confrontation with President Trump.
Over the previous two weeks, Harvard and the task force, they had been engaging in a dialogue.
The anti-Semitism task force.
Can you believe, can you imagine if Trump had an anti-trans an anti-transphobia task force?
I mean, imagine that.
They had that at the previous.
Didn't they have this before?
There's just a new one.
And I'll bet some maniac Zionist, whoever sent that, because, you know, they're such close friends and aircraft carriers in this country to us.
Never causing problems.
Over the previous two weeks, Harvard and the task force had engaged in a dialogue, but the letter's demands were so extreme that Harvard concluded that a deal would ultimately be impossible.
Don't you hate when you send a text to the wrong person?
Instead, this time they sent it to Harvard.
After Harvard public after Harvard publicly repudiated the demands, the Trump administration raised the pressure, freezing billions in federal funding to the school and warning that its tax-exempt status was in jeopardy.
A senior White House official said the administration stood by the letter.
What?
Calling the university's decision to publicly rebuff the administration overblown and blaming Harvard for not continuing.
So now they're blaming Harvard for saying, why are you making a big deal out of that letter?
I don't understand what's happening.
You should have just kept our dialogue going.
That's what they're saying.
It was malpractice on the side of Harvard's lawyers not to pick up the phone and call the members of the anti-Semitism task force.
The fact that Trump has an anti-Semitic task force is such.
Wait, let's read the next line.
It's amazing.
The next line.
Who they had been talking to for weeks said May Mailman.
That's funny, but that's not the part.
The White House senior policy strategist.
Instead, Harvard went on a victimhood campaign.
Are you kidding?
Are you Jimmy?
What?
Google.
You mean you guys threatened to take away their taxes and status.
You threatened to take away hundreds of millions or billions of dollars in federal funding, and you sent that letter telling them how they should hire people, fire people, and create a task force of their own.
And they're the ones who are pre.
You know, I don't want to say the letter was pushy because I don't want to be deported from the country I was born in, but it was a bit pushy.
Still, Ms. Mailman said there is a potential pathway to resume discussions if the university, among other measures, follows through on what Mr. Trump wants and apologizes to its students for fostering a campus where there was anti-Semitism.
I don't think that's going to happen.
I don't want to be on Harvard's side, but Ms. Mailman showed to send her away.
Yeah.
Somebody should put her in the mail.
Harvard pushed back on the White House's claim that it should have checked with the administration lawyers after receiving the letter.
The letter was signed by three federal officials, placed on an official letterhead, was sent from the email inbox of a senior federal official and was sent on April 11th as promised.
Recipients of such correspondence from the U.S. government, even when it contains sweeping demands that are astonishing in their overreach, do not question its authenticity or seriousness.
For two weeks, Harvard's lawyers, William Burrick and Robert Hooard, listened as Trump officials in fairly broad strokes laid out the administration's concerns about how the school dealt with anti-Semitism and other issues.
On the administration side of the dialogue were three lawyers, Josh Grubham, who cares what their names are.
The back and forth lacked specifics on what the administration wanted Harvard to do.
The Trump administration lawyers said they would send Harvard a letter last Friday that laid out more specifics.
By the end of the workday on Friday, the letter had not arrived.
Instead, overnight, the lawyers from Harvard received a letter sent from Mr. Cavini in an email that was far different from the one the school had expected.
It listed a series of demands that would reshape students and academic life in ways Harvard could never agree to.
On Monday, Harvard said publicly that it could not accede to them.
Shortly thereafter, Mr. Groombaum called one of Harvard's lawyers, according to two people with knowledge of the calls.
At first, he said he and Mr. Wheeler had not authorized sending that letter.
Whoa.
He then slightly changed his story, saying the letter was supposed to be sent at some point, just not on Friday, when the dialogue between the two sides was still constructive.
It was supposed to be F.T. Chabis, we said.
Harvard officials, including several who worked in government earlier in their careers, were shocked that such an important letter bearing the logos of three government agencies with signatures of three top officials at the bottom could be sent by mistake.
But at that point, there was no way for Harvard to undo what had already been set in motion.
Oh, okay.
So some prick Israel asset sent that on purpose to make sure they could try to push their bullshit through.
I'll bet you that's what it is.
The university had already declared that it would rebuff the letter's demands.
And despite claiming that the letter should not have been sent, the Trump administration didn't withdraw it.
In response to Harvard's decision to fight, the White House announced that Mr. Trump was freezing $2.2 billion in grants.
Within a day, he was threatening to revoke Harvard's taxes M status.
Do it.
Do that anyway, regardless of this.
Yeah, please do that.
Matt Stoller says this kind of selfish idiocy will cost the Trump administration the Trump White House support.
They admit the letter attacking Harvard was sent by mistake, but then they double down.
All their supporters who believe them look like idiots.
Well, not as big of idiots as people that pay for a Harvard education.
Yeah.
You know, like I want Trump to burn it down with all of Harvard in it myself, so it's not going to be that big a deal, but it is really stupid that I have to agree with Harvard on this.
It is unbelievable.
I didn't think I could agree with Harvard on anything.
Not since Dave Smith, the dream team of Dave Smith and Chenk Uyger took on Dennis Prager and that other chick, Bacha, botchola or whatever.
I didn't see it.
Well, I don't want to agree with Cheng Uyger, but he was right.
They were the anti-Zionist side, and they were telling the truth.
There's a lot of goof-ups happening.
And I think the biggest goof-up is that the Trump administration has an anti-Semitism task force.
Why would that be necessary at all?
Excuse me, someone said a thing to me.
Oh, somebody doesn't like my Semitism.
Somebody said I should live in Poland instead of the place where I live currently.
People are saying mean things to me over here, and I can't take it.
I wish the White House would step in.
Words of violence now.
I didn't like when it was woke, but now I would like to say that.
That's right.
So this is what people are calling the woke right.
So now you found a thing that makes you want to police other people's speech and thoughts.
So the woke right is not what that's James Lindsey calling that to Dave Smith.
But in reality, what the woke right is, is Zionists.
All the same sensitivities.
There's a task force.
We got to get to the bottom of why anyone would be.
Oh, you can't figure it out.
Wow.
Uh...
Thank you.
I'm pretty sure I don't understand why I can't hate stuff.
So this is just more hate speech.
So this is everybody who considered themselves a libertarian and right-wing, they hated, oh, hate speech.
You can't police my hate.
I get to hate.
Why can't I get to hate stuff?
Why can't I hate Israel?
Why don't I get to hate stuff?
I don't.
You know what I hate?
I hate being lied to by people.
That's all.
I hate liars telling me lies, and then not only that, acting like I'm obligated to believe their lies as if they are my teenage daughter.
You know, like, I don't care about you like that, dude.
I'm not backing up.
So again, you have to stand.
You know, I grew up in Chicago.
There was a suburb called Skokie where a lot of Holocaust survivors lived, and the Nazis would march through Skokie every year.
I'm sure that offended them.
But guess what?
The ACLU and the Holocaust survivors in Skokie allowed it.
You know why?
Because they valued free speech more than they hated the Nazis.
So this is all bullshit.
And especially someone like me, every year it would be on the local news that the Nazis are marching through Skokie, a big Jewish community filled with Holocaust survivors.
And guess what?
They were allowed to do it.
So Trump doing this is anti-American.
It's not America first.
It's Israel first.
It sounds like they do what they want.
And it sounds just as bad as the stuff they were railing against about policing speech around transphobia or homophobia or white supremacy.
You're not a fan of a task force besides a frothing lunatic.
Who would be in the anti-Semitism task force besides an absolute maniac desperate to maintain this like Judeo-Zion narrative that nobody's more prejudice towards Israel than Arabs by a lot.
Someday, Kurt.
They screwed up.
You screwed up.
Don't blame me or the Arabs.
You screwed up if I'm not on your side 100%.
I'm not in favor.
You did it.
Someday, Kurt, if the Semites work hard enough and maybe they can ascend in the culture to positions of power and influence.
Hopefully sometime.
But until then, we need the White House to have an anti-Semitism task force because they can't protect themselves and they don't have any positions of power.
We know that.
But the Semites, I encourage them to work hard, go to school.
And maybe you'll someday ascend to positions of power in the United States.
Maybe someday.
That's a great point, Jimmy.
It's a great point.
Maybe one day.
Maybe one day.
Maybe one day you'll get the Islamist death grip off of Hollywood.
Yeah, maybe one day you'll fill the halls of the White House and Congress.
Maybe one day.
Maybe one day you'll...
Maybe one day both parties will be at your beck and call.
Maybe one day you'll be overrepresented.
Maybe one day you'll be overrepresented in the media.
Yeah.
Maybe.
Maybe if you work hard enough, maybe.
But until then, we need the White House to have an anti-Semitism task force to protect you because you obviously don't have any positions of power to protect yourselves.
Israel is surrounded, okay?
Surrounded.
By any means necessary, up to and including an underage child sex trafficking ring by Jeffrey Epstein.
I think you know the answer, Jimmy.
Does that mean they can kill a president if they want?
Kurt, be careful what you're watering.
What are you watering?
Did I make you never beat him?
Marco Rubio looks like the United States is done trying to get peace in Ukraine, and it looks like they're going to wash their hands of it.
And Europe, which has been the big saber rattler, saying we're going to start funding the war, we've got to fight.
Go ahead.
It looks like the Trump administration is going to say, okay, go ahead.
You guys take care of it.
It's not our problem.
So let's listen to what he says.
I think it's important to remind everybody that the Ukraine war is a terrible thing, but it's not our war.
We didn't start it.
The United States has been helping Ukraine over the last three years, and we want it to end.
But it's not our war.
I want everyone to understand that.
And the reason why I make that point is the president has spent 87 days.
Well, the United States has been funding it, and we did overthrow their government in 2014.
So we kind of started it.
We proxy-started it.
But I didn't, so I'm taking that we as I didn't do nothing.
So he's saying the Trump administration itself didn't start it.
Okay.
The highest level of his government, repeatedly taking efforts to bring this war to an end.
We are now reaching a point where we need to decide and determine whether this is even possible or not, which is why we're engaging both sides.
As you know, Ambassador Witkoff has had not one, not two, but three meetings with Vladimir Putin to determine the Russian perspective on this and understand what it would take for them to end it.
We've, General Kellogg, myself, and others have had repeated engagements with the Ukrainians.
So we came here yesterday to sort of begin to talk about more specific outlines of what it might take to end the war to try to figure out very soon.
And I'm talking about a matter of days, not a matter of weeks, whether or not this is a war that can be ended.
If it can, we're prepared to do whatever we can to facilitate that and make sure that it happens, that it ends in a durable and just way.
If it's not possible, if we're so far apart that this is not going to happen, then I think the president's probably at a point where he's going to say, well, we're done.
You know, we'll do what we can on the margins.
We'll be ready to help whenever you're ready to have peace.
But we're not going to continue with this endeavor for weeks and months on end.
So we need to determine very quickly now, and I'm talking about a matter of days, whether or not this is doable over the next few weeks.
If it is, we're in.
If it's not, then we have other priorities to focus on as well.
That to me, I welcome that news.
To me, that's good news.
That's the United States saying we're done funding this war.
That's what it sounds like because Trump has continued to fund it.
Even though Trump, when he was campaigning, said he would end the war in 24 hours.
And then he even went on and said, I will end the war before I even get into office.
He said, the war will be over before he said that.
I don't have the clip for you, but he said that.
Yeah, I remember.
And, well, here it is.
He's been in office now.
It's been 24 hours to end it.
He's been in office now, I don't know, three months, right?
February, March, April.
So very close to three months.
Well, the American Business Week hasn't started yet, the Israel Business Month.
So monthly period.
So that's good news.
That's good news.
That's them saying, hey, you know what, Europe, you go ahead.
Go ahead.
Take your war.
You're about big talkers.
And it's a pretend war.
It's a pretend war.
This is a pretend war.
Meaning, it's not what they say it's about.
Russia is not going to roll into Poland, not going to roll into Lithuania, not going to roll into England.
That's not what this is about.
Aaron Mate wrote about this.
So let me just give you a little piece.
Just last week, Trump treated a Ukrainian Request for patriot air defense missiles with open contempt.
You don't start a war against someone 20 times your size and then hope that people give you some missiles, Trump said.
Well, there's the Trump, I like.
That's the Trump we like.
According to the New York Times, European officials have not even received assurances that the United States will continue its extensive intelligence sharing for Ukraine, which was briefly paused after Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky's disastrous visit to the White House.
Meanwhile, according to congressional sources, there is virtually no serious discussion underway about new weapons package for Ukraine after the current one, authorized in the Biden administration's last month, runs out.
A source close to several senior White House officials told me that the chance of a new military assistance package for Ukraine under the Republican-controlled Congress is virtually zero.
This is music to my ears.
Trump, the source says, often changes his mind.
He won't on this one.
Let's hope not.
In talks with Ukraine and the NATO states, Trump officials have ruled out NATO membership for Ukraine and discussed recognizing Ukrainian territories now under Moscow's control, including Crimea, Crimea.
While welcoming the White House overtures, Russia has greater ambitions.
When Moscow speaks about addressing root causes, it has in mind not only Ukraine, but also a far-reaching agreement that would roll back NATO military assets and long-range missiles near its borders.
Yet Trump, who helped fuel Russian fears by abandoning the INF treaty during his first term, has shown no interest in undoing his own belligerent moves, just those he can pin on Joe Biden.
Ukraine, Trump stressed last week, is Biden's war, not mine.
Even if he were inclined to reach a broader agreement with Russia, Trump is also constrained by a divided cabinet.
Aides, including Rubio and Ukraine envoy Keith Kellogg, have advised Trump to be more skeptical of Moscow's desire for peace with Ukraine, according to the Wall Street Journal.
We sometimes hear contradictory things from different parts of the administration, a senior Western diplomat told Reuters.
That also adds to the sense that there is no real plan here.
A Russian opposition politician, Grigory Lewinsky, voiced a similar concern.
The American administration has only the most general wishes of what it wants.
There is no understanding of how exactly to achieve it.
Now serving as the nation's top diplomat, Rubio's skepticism of a deal with Russia tracks with his career as hawkish senator.
In 2020, Rubio served as co-chair of the Senate Intelligence Committee when it released a dubious report on alleged Russian meddling in the 2016 election.
Expressing a long-standing bipartisan consensus, the report complained that Russia took advantage of the first-term Trump transition team and their desire to deepen ties with Russia to pursue unofficial channels through which Russia could conduct diplomacy.
During the final days of Trump's first term, intelligence officials voiced a similar position.
The Kremlin, on January 2021, National Intelligence Council report stated, has long deemed that a weakened United States would be less likely to pursue assertive foreign and security policies abroad and more open to geopolitical bargains with Russia.
That's what the intelligence officials said at the end of Trump's first term.
The message from the United States national security apparatus was clear.
Any reduction in assertive, i.e., aggressive policies, namely the proxy war in Ukraine, triggered by the 2014 Maidan coup, which ultimately led to the 2022 Russian invasion, along with any attempts for a geopolitical bargain with Russia, would weaken the United States.
So there's a lot of commas in that.
What he's saying is the message from the U.S. national security apparatus was clear.
Do not reduce, don't stop the war, don't stop any assertiveness.
Keep being bellicose and saber-rattling with Russia.
That's what they were saying.
Having long been guided by these hawkish forces in Washington, Zelensky is desperate for them to regain control.
I believe, sadly, Russian narratives are prevailing in the United States, Zelensky recently complained to CBS News.
So Zelensky is hoping that the Warhawk neocons gain control again.
This speaks to the enormous influence of Russia's information policy on America on the United States politics and U.S. politicians.
Reviving their spat at the White House, Zelensky singled out Vice President J.D. Vance, who he said is somehow justifying Putin's actions.
Zelensky also called out Trump's envoy, Steve Witkoff, for arguing that a peace deal will come down to the status of Ukrainian regions claimed by Russia.
I think that Mr. Witkoff has taken the strategy of the Russian side, Zelensky said.
I think it's really dangerous because consciously or unconsciously, he is disseminating Russian narratives.
Oh, well, it turns out Russia's right, so that's good.
Yeah, it turns out.
So that's exactly what they said to Tulsi when they asked her, hey, why did you tell the truth about Russia?
Meaning, well, what they said was, hey, why did you repeat what Russia was saying about Syria?
Because it was the truth.
I'm sorry the truth didn't favor the good guys.
Yeah.
By lamenting the prevalence of Russian narratives in Washington, Zelensky is, and Zelensky, in fact, means a diplomatic settlement that addresses Russian concerns.
Moscow will not get everything it wants out of Trump, but a speedier resolution is much more likely if Ukraine's main sponsor can stick to its newfound position that a conflict it has fueled since 2014 is no longer our war.
So I hope so.
I hope Trump can find a peace.
I hope Trump can find a peace deal.
And if not, I hope that in a matter of days, as Rubio said, it's over.
Have fun, guys.
That the United States is done with it.
Have fun, Europe.
You go spend a lot of time.
You go spend a couple of hundred billion dollars on a stupid war In Ukraine, while your people can't afford housing and your economies are tanking.
Go ahead.
You guys go do that.
Keir Stormer and the boys.
Have a good time.
Have a good time, Kier Starmer.
And Macrone and the ass wipes in Brussels.
Go ahead and go get them.
And Macron's wife teacher that babies his dad.
All of you, I wish you the best.
You know that other countries get their pharmaceuticals way cheaper than the United States.
Yes, I've been to Mexico.
And Canada and Europe, right?
ASPE contracted with Rand Healthcare to carry out three studies analyzing data on U.S. prescription drug prices and availability in comparison to drug prices and availability in other organizations in other organizations for economic cooperation in development countries.
In 2022, the United States prices across all drugs, brand names and generics, were nearly three times as high as the prices in comparison countries.
So they say 2.78 times.
Doesn't that equate?
I'm not a math surgeon, but isn't that almost 300% more when they say 2.78 times?
That's 200% 0.78 times.
Am I right?
Are they averaging those together?
Because I can tell you this.
I'll give you an example of a drug.
I got prescribed Pro-Vigil.
You know, the Obama pills?
I used to have two writing jobs at one point.
I had to was getting no sleep.
My doctor gave me Provigil, which is a drug for narcolepsy that you can take.
A lot of doctors take in med school, and it inhibits what makes you tired.
It's not like an amphetamine, okay?
So I got insurance paying for it, so it was very cheap.
It was like $10, but you don't see it in the street ever because it's like $900 out of pocket to buy this Obama pills.
If you go to Mexico, you get them for $15 a pack of like a lot of them.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
And it's all weird Byzantine insurance reasons and whatever.
So U.S. prices for brand name drugs were at least 3.2 times higher.
So that's over 300% as high as prices in the comparison countries.
Even after adjustments for estimated U.S. rebates, most new drugs were available first in the United States before being launched in other countries.
So we launch them here in the United States, send them to other countries.
They're then cheaper by like 300% in the other countries.
And by the way, calling it a launch, I like that.
Like it's a PlayStation.
No, you mean the experiment on us first?
So drugs are always cheaper for countries that don't get uppity, if you know what I mean.
So, but guess what Trump did?
So you know how they made it illegal for you to go to Canada and get your drugs because it was cheaper.
That's what senior citizens used to do.
They would go to Canada.
Is that breaking the law the times I've done that?
Yes.
Well, now Trump just signed an order to help states import low-cost medicines from other countries.
Whoa.
Yeah.
By the way, that's, if you look, that's what, that's Charlie Sheen's safe room.
That's just one wall of it.
There's other stuff in there.
Oh, wait, wait, wait.
So he signed an order.
So you're telling me that this issue, somebody could have signed an order this whole goddamn time?
Yep.
Yes.
Well, what do you know?
President Donald Trump signed an executive order on April 15th.
That's tax date that directs a wide range of actions to lower the cost of prescription medications, including through the importation of prescription drugs from Canada by the states.
States have been authorized since 2020 to import certain drugs from Canada, where they are now available at a lower price under section 804 of the Food, Drug, and Cosmetics Act.
However, approval from the Food and Drug Administration, that's the FDA, is required.
And that process is complex.
Meaning corrupt.
Yes.
Florida is the only state now authorized to import drugs from Canada.
And that approval process took more than three years.
So they always talk, people in California always like to disparage Florida like it's some kind of backward crazy right.
And of course, they got COVID right.
They got the lockdowns right.
They got monoclonals right.
And look, they're the only state that is able to import drugs cheaper for their people.
They probably got the most old people.
That's right.
California is also a state that hates the elderly.
I mean, just like at every level, everybody's trying to never be old, you know?
Yep.
And Florida's got a lot of elderly, and it's harder to trick them, you know?
Yeah.
Trump's order instructs the FDA to improve the process and encourage states to apply for authorization to import medications.
I mean, if you're not their grandkid.
An analysis by health research group, KFF, found that per capita spending on prescription drugs was 42% higher in the United States than in Canada per capita.
Three items in the executive order aim at lowering the cost of drugs already available in the United States.
The first action is to revisit the Medicare drug negotiation program, which was authorized.
So do you know that by law, Medicare, the government organization, Medicare, was by law not allowed to negotiate drug prices with Big Pharma.
That's how corrupt your government is.
No, I'm sure there's a good reason why you're not allowed to negotiate the price.
They weren't sure.
It can't be.
So then, in the Inflation Reduction Act, they made it okay to negotiate the price of just 10 drugs for Medicare.
The program allows Medicare to negotiate with drug companies, reduce the cost of brand-name drugs.
But how many of them?
The initial round of lower prices involved 10, just 10 prescription drugs.
I remember this.
They were only allowed.
And that's when Joe Biden goes, we beat Big Pharma.
You bitches.
And it was Big Pharma off your whole career.
Yeah.
And now you're allowing Medicare to negotiate the price of 10 drugs, and you call that a win instead of a win for big pharma and corruption?
Well, they might have given him a large payment for his like 37 mortgages.
Maybe that's what he did.
Like the Biden family beat them.
And a second round of 15 drugs will be available for Medicare beneficiaries at a reduced price.
We have to wait till 2027.
So then we'll have a total of 25 drugs.
Because you know how they come to that idea?
They're planning for a bunch of old people to die out from not affording drugs.
And someone is calculating that.
And that's why they're like, okay, in 2027, you can have these 15 drugs.
Because they know exactly the numbers on that of who has what and what they need.
That's why they know how to overcharge.
You would think it's like a bonanza of grabbing money, but these assholes have venture capital waiting for their investment back.
So they've calculated all the excess ahead of time by like seven years.
You understand how evil it is?
Yeah, I understand how evil.
You don't even have to know what you just said to know how evil this is.
A White House official told reporters that the Trump administration is going to improve the program and make it even more transparent.
So they're going to improve this program where Medicare gets to negotiate the prices of drugs that they give to old people.
It wouldn't take much to improve it, though, would it?
That just shows you how completely corrupt your government is.
A second price-lowering action, this is the second thing Trump's doing, aims to make Medicare payment for prescription drugs commensurate with the supplier's costs.
No kidding.
You have to enforce capitalism.
You have to enforce the capitalism.
That's unbelievable.
Currently, Kurt, Medicare pays as much as 35% over the actual cost of the medications.
A third provision for lowering prices directs that steps be taken to ensure that Medicare pays a comparable price for prescription drugs regardless of where they are dispensed.
The mafia was less corrupting than this.
Do you know we have sell-buy dates on milk because of Al Capone, because his niece got sick?
No kidding.
And he's the guy that forced that?
Forced having the dates on milk.
The mafia did that.
How about we lower the price of eggs now?
Especially since they are also currently loaded with pharmaceuticals.
How about that?
That's how I get most of my flu shots from my eggs.
Yeah.
From my chicken.
Currently, Medicare may pay up to 60% more for a drug dispensed at an outpatient clinic than for the same medication dispensed at a doctor's office.
What does that do?
Well, it gives an incentive for providers to drive traffic to higher-paying locations.
Oh, like how having private prisons creates an incentive for gangster rap.
Yeah.
And so the fourth action that Trump's doing is he's directing Dr. Oz, the administrator of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, to further reduce the price of insulin.
Currently, the negotiated price is $35 for insulin.
A White House official told reporters that based on the new order, low-income and uninsured patients may be able to receive insulin for as little as 3 cents per vial, plus an administrative fee.
Injectable epinephrine may be available for as little as $15 per auto injector.
This order will achieve that by ensuring that all discounts on insulin and epinephrine that the government offers to healthcare providers are passed on to consumers.
This sounds like socialism.
Sounds like socialism.
Other provisions of Trump's order aim to lower costs by improving the drug development and approval process.
First, the order directs the FDA to streamline the approval process for generic and biosimilar medications.
That could reduce the price of medication for some patients by as much as 80%.
You believe that it took Trump to do this?
It took Trump to do this.
Currently, there is a backlog of generic and biosimilar medications awaiting approval.
No kidding.
Well, why would you need to go through a whole new process for the generic version that is exactly similar?
Because here's how because Kurt, how explained to you?
Because Big Pharma bribes the FDA and the people who work at the FDA get bribed and then go immediately to work for the pharmaceutical companies.
So they're incentivized to write these rules that protect Big Pharma's profit.
That's why.
It doesn't make logical sense, but it makes corruption sense.
No, it makes perfect sense.
I understand how people...
Like, that sounds fair.
Like, somebody accepted that.
Second, Trump's order directs Health and Human Services Secretary RFK Jr. to work with Congress to address what the administration sees as an imbalance in the emphasis placed on the development of some highly expensive drugs.
Small molecule medications are produced from chemicals, are less costly, and can treat a wide variety of ailments.
Ibuprofen is an example of a small molecule medication.
I mean, considering that they're just spraying these drugs on us like bugs now anyway from the sky, it makes taking a pill seem almost like archaic, doesn't it?
I get my drugs through mosquito bites now, Jimmy.
I live in the future.
Large, large molecule medications are derived from living organisms or most are most costly to produce and are delivered by infusion.
Gene-based therapies, immunotherapies, and hormonal regulators are examples of large molecule medications.
The current system encourages companies to invest in developing more expensive, large molecule treatments over less costly alternatives.
That's the current system.
Isn't that something?
One element of Trump's order cracks down on the practices of some brokers in the prescription drug supply chain.
The order directs the Department of Labor to set rules concerning the disclosure of broker fees for prescription drugs.
In some cases, employers hire a broker to negotiate prescription drug fees on behalf of their employees, but the broker may act against the employer's best interest by accepting fees from the pharmacy benefit manager that it recommends.
100% corruption.
What a pile of shit we live in.
100% corruption.
Provisions supporting this rulemaking are included in the Consolidated Appropriations Act, but have not been fully enforced.
So again, I had to go to Zero Hedge to find this story because I guess MSNBC, CNN, and Fox don't want to give, or the New York Times don't want to give Trump credit for actually doing something that seems criminal if you don't do it.
Right.
Well, they're all sponsored by Pharma.
The same reason that CJ Gupta had to be a blithering idiot on Rogan's podcast.
That's right.
I didn't say he thought he was going to get beat up.
Yeah.
That was his excuse because Don Lemon was about to hit him with a phone book, you know, to not leave bruises.
And he goes, no, I thought Rogue was going to attack me.
So now you know the rest of the story.
Your government's completely corrupt, and Trump is the one getting rid of some of the corruption.
That's going to be that much better.
Kind of shocking, isn't it?
Kind of shocking.
Well, I don't know what, Carol.
I'm not.
Let's see.
Let's see what happens.
I can't believe how bad it was.
It's not going to get worse.
It's going to get better.
And with guys like Dr. Jay Bhartichara and people like RFK Jr. and Dr. Amarty Makari in charge, I've got a lot of confidence in those guys.
Hey, now that Israel's done with their genocide, now maybe we can focus on this stuff.
Maybe the glasses has full.
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