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	Hey, this is Jimmy.
	Who's this?
	Jimmy, this is Vince Vaughan.
	Oh, hi, Vince.
	How you doing?
	Jimmy, I'm mad as hell, and I'm not going to take it anymore.
	Wow.
	Why?
	Why?
	What's up?
	I just learned that they are teaching critical race theory to our children in our schools.
	I'm not having it, Jimmy D. I'm not having it.
	I'm not having it.
	All right, Vince.
	What do you think critical race theory is?
	It's a theory that criticizes the race of white people.
	It's right there in the name.
	It's a thing.
	No, no, it's a decades-old legal theory about how complex systems in this country still sustain racial injustice.
	And it is studied in law schools, not taught in elementary schools.
	Oh, yeah.
	Well, that's not what I heard.
	Yes, I know.
	People are conflating critical race theory with schools simply teaching a balanced American history, which acknowledges our racist past.
	Right.
	Okay, yeah, of course.
	White people are bad.
	Bad people are white.
	We're just the worst people who ever lived.
	That's racist, too.
	You know what?
	That's reverse racism.
	That's just as bad as the normal racism.
	No, that's not what's being taught, though, I think, Vince.
	I think that they're teaching that there has been systemic racism in the country since its founding, right?
	Against black people?
	Yes, and indigenous people and many others.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.
	I've heard of slavery, but the Irish were slaves, too.
	You'll read about that in books written by liberal fucking college professors, but it's true.
	In the 1600s, more than 18 million Irish were transported to the colonies as slaves.
	That's more people than have ever lived in Ireland ever combined.
	That's how many Irish it was.
	Uh-huh.
	But do you ever hear them complain?
	Are they asking for reparations?
	No.
	They never ask for anything because they're Irish and deep down, they don't think they deserve anything.
	It's a culture rooted in shame, and goddammit, I respect that.
	Vince, this is inane.
	Is it really?
	I think it's very ane.
	I don't think white people are better than anyone else, but I'm going to stick up for us if we get attacked.
	Racism goes both ways.
	Oh, yeah, how so?
	You know what?
	Plenty of black people say racist things against white people.
	They say we smell like mayonnaise and shit.
	Well, I for one certainly do not.
	And that offends me, sir.
	Mayonnaise.
	Yeah, they got a real thing about mayonnaise.
	I don't know what the fuck is up.
	Ha ha ha ha!
	Ha ha ha!
	Ha ha ha!
	Eh!
	Any individual saying racist things is not systemic racism.
	It's the systems that make it so accumulated wealth among blacks is significantly lower than for whites.
	It's harder for blacks to get loans or own a home.
	How black people are policed, convicted, and imprisoned at rates wildly higher than whites.
	My friend Don Cheadle owns a house.
	That's not.
	That's not the point.
	That's not the point, Vince.
	Why is it bad to teach the truth about slavery, Reconstruction, Jim Crow, and segregation in American schools?
	Because it's not good to dwell on the bad things in our past.
	Did the shot-for-shot Gus Fanzan remake of cycle that I started happen in the past?
	Yes, it did.
	But you don't see me going around dwelling on it.
	That would be unhealthy.
	But that's what history is, Vince.
	It's what happened in the past.
	Yeah, but so much happened in the past, Jimmy.
	There's been so much American history.
	Why can't we choose to focus on the good things that happened?
	Johnny Appleseed planting trees and then George Washington chopping them down.
	That George Washington Carver making all that peanut shit.
	Invading Canada during the War of 1812 and winning.
	So just completely ignore our racist past then?
	Why not?
	That's what I do, and I'm not racist.
	See how that works?
	Purposely ignoring our racist past is sort of racist itself, Vince.
	Well, I disagree.
	In fact, I think we'd form a utopia if we didn't teach any of this shit.
	You know, then black and white children would be raced not knowing that any of this ever happened.
	Wouldn't that be nice?
	Vince, the idea here isn't to make everyone feel good.
	The idea is that we can't work to fix social inequality unless we understand its historical roots.
	Roots?
	Like that racist mini-series?
	How was roots racist?
	All the bad guys were white.
	Well, all the bad guys in slavery were white, Vince.
	My God, listen to yourself, Jimmy Door.
	All the bad guys are white.
	They've gotten to you.
	This critical race theory has poisoned your mind.
	And this is what they work for our children.
	You know, I can't have this.
	I have to stop it.
	What do you mean, Vince?
	I'm going to get in my car, go to the nearest grade school, and raise hell.
	I'm going to bust in there, scream like a fucking madman, interrogate teachers by yelling right in their racist faces.
	I might even prig a tire iron for effect.
	These children need to be educated properly and feel safe doing it.
	Don't even try to stop me.
	I can't be contained.
	Establishment media sets are inspired.
	So good luck, bullshit we can't afford Fomenting this, oh-oh-oh-oh Watch and see as it's jacked off The medium speeds and jumps the medium And hits'em head on It's the Jimmy Door show.
	Hello, everybody.
	We're live on the Live Jimmy Dorr show.
	We've got a very special show today.
	We've got our amigo, Glenn Greenwald, here, all ready to go.
	Very exciting.
	Jimmy has the lights, camera, powder on.
	We're all set now.
	Jim Jam.
	Kind of a bold shirt, kind of a bold shirt for today.
	See, I like to wear shirts like this, but I don't like to wear them on stage because I always feel like the audience might be thinking about my shirt instead of thinking about my jokes.
	So I always like to address plain on stage, but on the TV, I can wear this.
	And I got to tell you, best hair day I've had in 10 fucking years.
	It's unbelievable.
	It's really great.
	All right.
	So let's kick things off.
	I don't want to waste any time.
	We got our big shot guest with us is.
	Oh, wait, hang on a minute.
	He is, our guest is the foremost journalist of his generation.
	He has a new book out called Securing Democracy about his reporting, which led to the freeing of former President Lula of Brazil.
	And he recently resigned over censorship from the online news publication, The Intercept, an organization he helped found.
	And you can read all of his writings at greenwald.substack.com.
	Please welcome Pulitzer Prize winning journalist Glenn Greenwald.
	Hi, Glenn.
	Thanks for coming on.
	Hey, Jimmy, I'm really excited.
	The problem is I'm so bedazzled by your shirt, so distracted by its beauty that I don't know if I can focus on your jokes and your questions.
	So you should think about that as well the next time you have a guest on.
	But I'll do my best.
	Okay, please.
	Please try to focus.
	I'll button it up.
	I won't show any skin or anything.
	Any straight face.
	Okay, you're welcome.
	So I wanted this.
	You wrote this great story.
	You caught Rachel Maddow was in a court battle because she recently said that the reporters for OAN network were literally paid by the Russians, right?
	She says lots of crazy stuff all the time.
	Like, here's one of the things she says.
	One of the things we learned just this week from the intelligence director is that part of the disastrous Trump COVID response is that Trump put in a key COVID response role.
	One of the people who helped Russian intelligence with its 2020 election attack.
	She got Russia with recent this week.
	That's amazing, isn't it?
	Isn't that amazing?
	I've said before, like, she's going to be, she and like a bunch of other liberals like Gaza Klein and Matt Euges, they're going to be like in nursing homes and they're going to have like drool running out of their mouth.
	They're going to be like, what about her emails?
	Like in response to anything, but Rachel is going to be babbling about the Kremlin.
	She wants people to start not, she wants that.
	Well, listen, I want to play this because it gets crazy.
	How do you even begin to get accountability for that?
	And when does the Justice Department stop knocking on people's doors about this?
	I mean, this is not a normal level of stuff that needs fixing.
	This is nutty stuff.
	This is nutty.
	Yes, it is.
	She's right about that.
	She's right about it.
	It's like she's trying to convince herself there's something to this.
	And this all, can I just, I just want to, I was going to save this to the end, but I just want to start with this now because of that.
	Biden's keeping Trump's pick for Moscow ambassador in place.
	So the guy that Trump had as the ambassador to Russia, Biden is keeping him.
	So all this stuff, just everyone's shut off already.
	Okay, so let's get to this story.
	All right.
	Can we do the power surge thing?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Sure.
	Sure.
	For me, I've seen it a thousand times, but I can never see it too much.
	It'll be such a nice way to begin.
	It is like negative 50 degrees in the Dakotas right now.
	What would happen if Russia killed the power in Fargo today?
	What would happen if all the natural gas lines that service Sioux Falls just poofed on the coldest day in recent memory and it wasn't in our power whether or not to turn them back on?
	I mean, what would you do if you lost?
	What would you and your family do?
	Definitely, as the act of a foreign power on the same day the temperature in your front yard matched the temperature in our Antarctica.
	Let's put it out.
	What would you and your family do?
	Well, it's like my favorite song.
	It's like I can say it with her now.
	I've watched it so many times.
	What would you do if all of a sudden the natural gas just went poof and you didn't add the polar?
	All right, let's get to this.
	This is fun.
	All right.
	It's fun.
	It's nice to have laughs.
	Well, let's get down to business.
	Yeah, let's get serious.
	So here.
	So here, a court recently ruled that Rachel Maddow's viewers know she offered exaggeration and opinion and not facts.
	So this is from your article about this.
	MSNBC's top-rated host, Rachel Maddow, devoted a segment in 2019 to accusing the right-wing cable outlet One American News, OAN, of being a paid propaganda outlet for the Kremlin, right?
	In this case, she announced the most obsequiously pro-Trump right-wing news outlet in America really literally is paid by Russian propaganda.
	She said literally, that's a quote.
	Okay.
	In response, OAN sued Rachel Maddow and MSNBC and its parent corporation, Comcast, for defamation.
	Makes sense.
	You would think they would do that.
	And out of all the many things you could criticize a far-right-wing network for, and she had to make something up.
	Isn't that kind of amazing?
	It missed to me.
	In an oddly overlooked ruling, an Obama-appointed federal judge dismissed the lawsuit on the grounds that even Maddow's own audience understands that her show consists of exaggeration, hyperbole, and pure opinion, and therefore would not assume that such outlandish accusations are factually true, even when she uses the language of certainty and truth when presenting them.
	Literally is a paid Russian propaganda.
	That's the quote.
	The judge also went on to say that Maddow's show is different than a typical news segment where anchors inform viewers about the daily news.
	The point of Maddow's show is for her to provide the news, but also to offer her opinions on the news.
	I love how the first part of the judge's statement is a total burn.
	Rachel's news show is different from other news shows in that it's not actually news.
	That is such a burn.
	This is her winning the case.
	This is her lawyers arguing this and the judge accepting it in her favor.
	Yeah.
	This is amazing.
	Keeps going.
	Therefore, the court finds that the medium of the alleged defamatory statement makes it more likely that a reasonable viewer would not conclude that the contested statement implies an assertion of objective fact.
	So when she said literally, she literally didn't mean literally, she literally meant figuratively.
	Okay.
	The court ruled that Maddow's own viewers not only expect, but desire that she will not provide the news in factual form, but will exaggerate and even distort reality in order to shape her opinion-driven analysis.
	They watch the news, but not for news.
	Isn't that interesting?
	Judge also went on to say viewers expect her to do so, as it is indeed her show, and viewers watch the segment with the understanding that it will contain Maddow's personal and subjective views about the news.
	So let me break this down.
	Subjective view, I don't like OAN's programming.
	It's far right and I disagree with all their takes.
	Not a subjective view.
	I'm going to make up where a place gets their funding from because I don't like them.
	You see the difference?
	I see the difference.
	Okay.
	Here's more from the judge.
	Thus, the court finds that as a part of the totality of the circumstances, the broad context weighs in favor of a finding that the alleged defamatory statement in Maddow's opinion and exaggeration and the reasonable viewers would not take the statement as factual.
	Ironically, those most guilty of being unreliable liars and propagandists and those in the media and even Maddow's own MSNBC colleagues who repeatedly cite Tucker Carlson's court ruling to delegitimize him without ever mentioning that Maddow's lawyers successfully use the same arguments in her defense.
	This actually happened.
	So Tucker Carlson, I wasn't familiar with this, but Tucker Carlson had to do the same kind of argument or did the same kind of argument in a court case.
	And so MSNBC and people and Chris Hayes and lots of people would point to this all the time.
	Fox News won a court case by persuasively arguing that no reasonable viewer takes Tucker Carlson seriously.
	That's exactly what Rachel Maddow just argued on her behalf in court.
	And here's Chris Hayes saying, similar to Fox News' defense in court of Tucker Carlson, these people are obviously bullshit artists who no one should trust.
	I guess he feels the same way about Rachel Maddow now.
	I guess.
	I don't know.
	So falsely accusing people of being paid Kremlin agents has a long and ugly history in the United States, having destroyed reputations and careers.
	Yet this smear has once again become utterly commonplace in Democratic Party politics.
	That's true.
	I've experienced it.
	A protected, a protracted, and ugly feud was initiated earlier this month when the young Turks Jenk Uger baselessly and baseless and false claimed that journalist Aaron Matte was paid by the Russians.
	So, all right, so that brings us.
	So that brings us back.
	So let's just come back to Glenn.
	First of all, great article.
	I agree with the 100%.
	And I wasn't aware of that.
	I don't know how I missed it.
	Of the unbelievable irony that they would use Tucker Carlson arguing the exact same thing as proof that Tucker Carlson's full of shit.
	But here it is, Rachel Maddow, and everybody's pretending like they don't see it, right?
	Well, this is the key context, Jimmy.
	Is, you know, as you may know, I periodically go on the Tucker Carlson show.
	I'll ironically be doing that immediately after this program.
	And so I've been hearing for, I don't know, a year now, all of these liberal pundits and journalists saying, why would you go on a show when even Fox's own lawyers acknowledge, in fact, argue in court that the things Tucker says is total bullshit and that nobody should believe them.
	In fact, they won a court case based on that.
	Now, I never really bothered to answer it or address it because being a lawyer myself, having litigated a bunch of defamation cases when I was a lawyer, I know exactly what happened there, which is, of course, when you have a lawyer and you're sued for defamation, you want that lawyer to make every argument in your defense to get the case dismissed.
	And so all that happened was Fox's lawyers went into court and said, look, when Tucker says stuff, his viewers understand that he uses hyperbole, he uses drama, he's kind of commenting on the news, he's infusing it with his own take.
	They don't think that it's always purely factual.
	And in that case, the statements were obviously his own kind of melodramatizing.
	But they constantly, they constantly use it to say, showed in that Chris Hayes tweet, even Fox's own lawyers admit that Tucker Carlson is bullshit.
	So I've been hearing this for a year.
	About a week ago, I was researching something and I stumbled onto this case without actually knowing about it because it is amazing.
	If you go and Google Tucker Carlson, Fox News's lawyers, you know, say that no one believes him, you'll find hundreds of articles in NPR, the Washington Post, the New York Times.
	I had no idea that there was this court case where the MSNBC's lawyers made exactly the same arguments because no one talked about it.
	So I stumbled onto it by accident.
	And amazingly, that court case actually was issued prior to the one that dismissed the one against Tucker.
	So in fact, Rachel not only used the same argument, she was the pioneer.
	And in her case, it was much more serious.
	I mean, she didn't, you know, make some kind of obviously hyperbolic statement.
	She, as you pointed out, said they're literally paid agents of the Kremlin.
	And MSNBC's lawyers went into court and said, come on, judge.
	It's Rachel fucking Maddow.
	No one takes that shit seriously.
	Now, I actually don't agree with that ruling.
	I don't think MSNBC viewers have the discernment to know that when she makes a claim where she says literally paid Russian propaganda, that she doesn't actually mean it.
	I think they do think that she means it.
	I think this Obama appointed judge was looking for a way to defend Rachel Maddow.
	Maybe you can kind of err on the side of saying, okay, we don't want journalists being sued easily.
	Although I do think, as I said in that article, that it's become a pathology in Democratic Party politics to just simply accuse people casually like it's fun of being paid agents for the Kremlin.
	That whole drama that you've had with, you know, Anna and Jenk and Aaron Mate and the whole YouTube world started because on a segment, Jenk was annoyed and did what Democratic hacks do, which is he accused Aaron Mate of being a paid agent of the Kremlin.
	He said he's paid by the Russians.
	He just fabricated that out of nowhere.
	So I actually think that it's past time for Democrats to be sued when they do this.
	But the irony, Jimmy, is that go and go to Google right now and try and find news outlets reporting on that same exact argument that Rachel's lawyers made the way they did for Tucker, and you'll barely find anything, which is why I reported it because I was amazed.
	I've been hearing about this for a year.
	Even from MSNBC people, oh, look, Tucker's own lawyers say he's full of shit and everyone knows it.
	And their own fucking lawyers made exactly the same argument in defense of Rachel and she won with it.
	You just read it.
	But it's amazing how easily you can find media outlets talking about Tucker doing that and almost none of them talking about Rachel Maddow's lawyers doing it.
	So, and, you know, people still give me a hard time because Tucker invites me on his show to talk about what I want to talk about, which is usually anti-war stuff or pro-Julian Assange stuff or the corruption inside the Democratic Party.
	That's the stuff that I want.
	That's my wheelhouse.
	And so he brings me on and I go on to talk to half the country.
	And you know why I do that?
	Because I get to talk to half the country and nobody else.
	I'm not turning down other requests.
	You know, when every time you see me on Tucker Carlson, that should make you angry that Chris Hayes, Rachel Maddow, Chris Cuomo, and Anderson Cooper don't invite people like me on their shows ever.
	They'll have three pro-war people on a panel all the time with never someone like me ever.
	And so when I go on Tucker, it's because he lets me say things about my anti-war stances.
	He lets me talk and argue in favor of Julian Assange's freedom.
	In fact, he even said that based on my arguments, partly he changed his mind.
	He said mine, which is the point of politics, is to change people's minds that don't already agree with you.
	Any moron can go and feed things to people who already agree with you on things.
	It's much more difficult, but much more meaningful to go change the minds of people who are watching television or better yet, the most influential commentator on the news.
	Like right now, when I go to Tucker's show, I'm not going on to like defend Donald Trump or Mitch McConnell.
	I'm going on to talk about all the ways that the NSA continues to spy on Americans' conversations without warrants and then lies about it to the public using their standard formula of propaganda that I reported on in 2013 and 2014 during the Snowden reporting.
	That's something I would never be allowed to go talk about on CNN or MSNBC, which is filled with NSA agents.
	Let me just tell you one quick thing about that, Jimmy.
	There's this right-wing writer.
	He's a young right-wing writer named Pedro Gonzalez.
	I don't know if you've run into him or not.
	His parents are immigrants from Mexico.
	He's 100% Mexican.
	He was born here, raised here.
	He used to be, like in 2016, kind of a Bernie supporter, and he realized the left was full of shit in the U.S. for a lot of reasons that you talk about.
	He's kind of on the right, but very heterodox.
	So he's become like a frequent guest on Tucker's show, this child of Mexican immigrants on Tucker's White Power Hour.
	And the last two times that he was on, the second to last time that he was on, he went on to talk about the fact that BlackRock, the slimy private equity firm, is buying up so much real estate in the United States that middle-class Americans are no longer able to afford a home because it's driving up the housing market artificially.
	And so it's turning the entire American middle class into a kind of like these serfs who just are a group of renters.
	And like owning your own home was the foundation of the American dream.
	And it's now being destroyed because Wall Street hedge funds are buying up homes at such large numbers that nobody can afford to buy a house anymore.
	And they talked about the implications for the working class.
	The last time that he was on, which is about three days ago, he went on and he talked about why Bill Gates is buying up insane amounts of American farmland.
	So he's by far the biggest owner, single owner of farmland on the planet, and how that too is squeezing out small farmers from being able to own their own farmland and instead will have to rent.
	And it gives Bill Gates enormous power.
	These are things that are so fundamental, so foundational to what the left, the actual left, should care about.
	And yet the only place you will ever hear them discussed is on the Tucker Carlson show.
	If you turn on MSNBC, you hear that crazy unwell woman babbling about the fucking Kremlin six months after Donald Trump left office.
	So who in their fucking right mind would not go on a program and speak to 4 million people when it's the only one that gives you an opportunity to do things like make the pitch to Donald Trump about why Julian Assange should be pardoned or argue against the American war machine or argue against the devastation to the middle class that Wall Street hedge funds and predatory capitalism is reeking.
	Well said.
	I couldn't, you know, the fact that her show brings on the people straight from the CIA to tell to inform you on foreign policy should tell you it actually isn't a news show.
	It's a propaganda show.
	They don't even try to hide it anymore.
	They do it right out into the open.
	And the way the Democratic left, or I don't think, I don't like to call them left.
	We really do have one-party rule and it's just kind of, it's a shame, not kind of a sham, it's a total sham.
	They both work for the same people.
	And for them to embrace the FBI, the NSA, the CIA as the good guys as they have done it, it is the most mind-blowing thing.
	It's like they became right-wingers now.
	Even the right-wing is skeptical of the FBI and the CIA.
	Hey, there's more people on the right skeptical of our forward wars than there are in the Democratic Party.
	It's a mind-blower to me if you want to comment on that.
	Yeah, I mean, well, first of all, I made it my Twitter header because I find it so central to understanding American political life in the post-Trump era.
	There is a Pew survey that asks whether or not you hold particular institutions in high esteem.
	And there's an amazing partisan gap between Democrats and Republicans when it comes to two institutions in particular that are the most pernicious in American political life since the end of World War II, which are the CIA in terms of foreign activity, although increasingly domestic, and the FBI.
	Democrats, by a significant margin, love and revere and hold in high esteem, those two agencies, those security state agencies, more than Republicans do.
	So I think that one of the most amazing things, Jimmy, is, you know, part of the kind of formative event of how I look at politics and how I do journalism was the church committee, which was the kind of post-Watergate investigation led by this liberal senator from Idaho, Frank Church, that he looked into the NSA.
	No one even knew what the NSA was.
	In Washington, the joke was NSA stood for no such agency.
	I mean, no one in the Congress even knew it existed.
	They looked into the CIA.
	They looked into the FBI and found extraordinary abuses, just these guys off doing all this rogue stuff, like really evil experiments, all kinds of stuff that was completely outside Democratic accountability.
	And the church committee was there to kind of institute reform.
	And one of the things they discovered was this thing called Operation Mockingbird, which was the program by which the CIA and the other security state operatives would try to clandestinely influence American media coverage to disseminate propaganda to the American public through these agencies.
	They would launder it through the New York Times, the Washington Post, CBS, ABC.
	Operation Mockingbird is now completely obsolete.
	They don't need it.
	They do it right out in the open, right out in the open.
	There was that article that was done by Revolver News and then amplified by Tucker.
	I also wrote about it, questioning the extent to which the FBI had informants in the three organizations they claim were behind the January 6th riot, the Three Percenters, the Oath Keepers, and the Proud Boys.
	And CNN and MSNBC, in order to debunk that story and those questions, brought on one FBI agent after the next, all of whom work for CNN and MSNBC.
	So there was literally a quote.
	This is an actual quote.
	Chris Cuomo was talking about this story and he said, now to get the truth, my colleague, the former acting director of the FBI, Andrew McCabe, who not only was the former, he was actually the deputy director.
	He called him the director.
	He got caught lying.
	Judge McCabe, yeah, he got caught lying to the FBI.
	He was almost prosecuted for it.
	That's what drove him out of the FBI.
	he immediately goes to CNN, just like James Clapper, who lied to the Senate when he was asked whether the NSA keeps dossiers on American citizens by the millions, and he lied, which is what ultimately provoked Snowden to make the final choice to come forward with this information.
	After getting caught lying to the American public, CNN then goes and hires James Clapper as well.
	So they not only have security state agents shaping the news, they get the ones who lie on purpose to then become employees of these news organizations.
	That is what liberals are consuming is propaganda from the NSA, the FBI, the CIA.
	And that's why when Tucker Carlson just came out with this report saying that he thinks that the NSA is spying on him or that, you know, he got a report saying that they are.
	Liberals just don't believe it.
	They don't think the NSA would do anything like that.
	They love the NSA.
	They believe the NSA whatever they say.
	Liberals are authoritarians.
	The overarching attribute of American liberalism is reverence for institutions of authority and a reflexive belief that what they're saying is true.
	I couldn't agree more.
	I've bumped up against it just with my lefty news YouTube host friends.
	They're very into cent, they're very pro-censorship, and they're very into the institutions of power.
	They're very into the intelligence agencies.
	It's nuts.
	But let me, you know, you brought up, let's go to Steph and let me set up this next story because it goes right into what you were saying.
	Could you go to Steph, please?
	Let's go to Steph.
	Okay.
	Let's go, Steph.
	Let's go to Steph.
	Thank you, Glenn.
	My favorite part of the show before we go to Steph.
	I already like Glenn Greenwald, but that monologue he just gave was so brilliant, eloquent, so impressed.
	I love this show.
	And that was from Do What's Right on Twitter?
	Do what's right.
	Wheat Biscuit, what are you doing, Weedie?
	Zachary, you see Kyle Vid on you.
	It's not a best watch.
	Keep it up.
	And now, back to Jimmy Door.
	I haven't, I haven't seen the video yet that Kyle did, but my producer has seen it, and other people have seen it, and they've been telling me what's in it.
	They told me, and I find this hard to believe.
	I'm going to watch it after the show, but I find it hard to believe that he would talk about that situation with Anna trying to weaponize a story and a settled issue from seven years ago because her back was up against the wall and she was getting called out for McCarthy smears.
	And he wouldn't, they said he didn't tell people that she was trying to blackmail me and that he made it sound like I just started talking about her clothes on my show one day.
	And so I don't know if that's true.
	I'm going to have to watch the video.
	So if that's, that would be sad if that is the truth, but whatever.
	A lot of people are unraveling over this story.
	And me being an outside comedian, I'm a real outsider when it comes to journalism and journalism.
	I already have more friends than I can use in comedy.
	I'm not looking for any more friends in journalism.
	And so it gives me this freedom that other people don't have.
	And it allows me to be more authentic, which is why I think I was the only one that came out of Force to Vote with their integrity intact.
	So, and that goes for Ryan Grimm.
	That goes for all the people covering it.
	That goes for people on the other side calling healthcare candy, stuff like that.
	It's okay.
	But let's get to this story and we'll deal with the sad.
	That's too bad.
	But anyway, so.
	Hey, can I just add one point on that, Jimmy?
	Because I do want to say, like, no, one of the things that I actually was enthused by was you did have actually some outspoken allies in the Force the Vote campaign.
	You had Breonna Joy Gray, you had Justin Jackson.
	Like, there were a good number of people.
	Cornell media.
	Cornell West.
	The majority of the left media was, of course, on the side of AOC.
	Like, she's just a young woman.
	You shouldn't be attacking her this way.
	It's violence.
	It's asking too much of her.
	But I do think it was great that you actually inspired with this plan that you created a fair number of the better commentators and then analysts on the left to join you in that campaign and then spend weeks, if not longer, in the case of Brianna, defending it.
	I appreciate you saying that.
	And Kyle was one of the most eloquent defenders of Force to Vote.
	Yeah.
	I encouraged him to write a book.
	I couldn't believe.
	I was like, wow, you should be a writer.
	Anyway, so thank you for saying that.
	I appreciate it.
	And it was definitely the weirdest experience of my life so far, Glenn, that I thought I was pushing something that was an agreed upon strategy on the left to force a vote.
	Everybody ran on it.
	The people I was asking to do it were the people who ran on doing such a thing.
	And so it was just mind-blowing to see if you try to give people health care in the middle of a deadly pandemic in the richest country in the world.
	People will smear you as a right-winger, a grifter, and every bad thing that Nazi, whatever they could do, they'll do.
	And it came right from the establishment.
	But anyway, let's get to this story because this is going to be going to be fun.
	So next sketch.
	Keith Oberman tweeted out.
	Keith Oberman, now, if you know my theory about Keith Olbermann is that he has Trump in his shadow, right?
	So if you know Jungian psychology, whatever triggers you the most outside is the part of you that you're denying to of yourself inside, right?
	So when I look at Trump, I don't get angry at Trump so much, but I get angry at the system that gave us Trump.
	And people like Keith Oberman foam at the mouth and became McCarthy red baiting maniacs that have no logic to what they're saying.
	And they're actually detrimental to democracy, freedom, liberty, all that stuff.
	He became the thing he claims to hate.
	And here, well, here he tweeted this out.
	He said, Tucker Carlson may tonight have inadvertently revealed that the NSA has found he is an asset of or in contact with a foreign entity trying to harm the United States of America.
	So what Tucker Carlson said that he was getting spied on by the NSA, right?
	That was the story, Glenn.
	Yep.
	Okay.
	So here we go.
	Wilson claims the National Security Agency, the NSA.
	Let me turn this up just a little bit.
	It's a little low.
	Hang on.
	Wilson claims the National Security Agency, the NSA, is spying on him, reading his emails, and trying to take his program off the air.
	As the old joke goes, just because you're paranoid, that does not mean they are not out to get you.
	Clearly, the NSA has found that Tucker Carlson is somehow connected to a foreign entity that intends to harm America.
	The NSA has responded Tuesday night that, quote, the allegation is untrue.
	Carlson has never been an intelligence target of the agency, and the NSA has never had any plans to try to take his program off the air.
	The NSA added in what seems like a throwaway bit of boilerplate that it also, quote, has a foreign intelligence mission.
	We target foreign powers to generate insights on foreign activities that could harm the United States.
	That, in fact, is the most important part of the statement.
	Even Carlson, in his delusional, megalomaniacal way, kind of got the message, responding on his show that he claimed, quote, NSA has read my private emails without my permission.
	Tonight's statement from the NSA Does not deny that.
	Instead, it comes with this non-sequitur, Tucker Carlson has never been an Intel target.
	Well, that's only a non-sequitur if you're a non-smart person.
	The conclusion is obvious, and the conclusion is chilling.
	The NSA is reading Tucker Carlson's emails.
	And since he's not their target, whoever he is emailing with must be.
	And if the NSA can only target foreign powers, then there is one conclusion only.
	Tucker Carlson is in contact with a foreign power trying to commit activities that could harm the United States.
	In other words, whether he's a foreign asset or a mere stooge, my money is on mere stooge.
	Tucker Carlson is working with a foreign entity to damage this country.
	And he's too stupid to shut up about it.
	And he's too stupid to flee the country because ultimately he's too stupid.
	Speaking of people too stupid to shut up, Keith Olbermann, I bet, how much?
	How much do you want to bet his neighbors were yelling at him to shut up because they couldn't hear Rachel Maddow's show?
	How many people?
	I got 20 bucks that says that.
	So do you want to copy?
	Isn't that so?
	What he's saying is that he's literally saying that he's not upset by the way that the NSA is reading a news person's emails.
	That doesn't seem to bother him at all.
	Isn't that a problem, Glenn?
	The ignorance of that rant is so multifaceted and multi-pronged that it would take hours to dissect.
	But let me just say, I find it so, I mean, the unwellness of Keith Oberman is manifest at this point.
	I mean, you just listen to him and, you know, you, I mean, I personally feel pity.
	Like, he's he's clearly unwell.
	But I think it's important to take note of the fact that he's like the godfather of contemporary liberal media.
	He was the person who made MSNBC into what it is.
	He was the one who spawned it.
	His success in finding a liberal audience and delivering those kind of rants is what then engendered Rachel Maddow and Chris Hayes and Lawrence O'Donnell.
	They're all working within his creation.
	He's their godfather, like kind of the guru of how liberals speak and how they deliver the news.
	And if you notice what he's saying, I mean, there's so many ignorant parts of it that I won't bore you with in terms of how the NSA functions and how they gather information.
	But if you listen to what he says, it's exactly that mentality of authoritarianism I was describing earlier, which is his assumption is that if the NSA is targeting you or somebody with whom you're speaking, that in and of itself proves that you are a bad person and a threat to American national security because the NSA would never ever target anybody except terrorists or other kinds of enemies of the United States.
	Imagine the authoritarianism required to believe that.
	During the 2016 election, we know that the NSA targeted Carter Page, who had been affiliated with the Donald Trump campaign.
	And the FBI, in order to get that warrant, lied to the FISA court, lied to the FISA court.
	And the FBI lawyer who prepared those words was prosecuted for that.
	And he pled guilty to it.
	The reporting that we did for years that won the Pulitzer was all about how the NSA spies on peace activists and for commercial advantage.
	And they spy on human rights agencies and on Amnesty International and foreign governments, including ones with whom the United States is allied.
	They fucking spy on everybody.
	And Keith Olbermann knows that, but his brain, like so many liberal brains, is completely broken by the Trump years that he looks at the NSA as his ally, as his protector, and believes in their inherent goodness to such an extent that he said right there, if the NSA is spying on you or someone with whom you're communicating, it means you are a bad person, a criminal, someone, a threat to the United States who ought to be fleeing the United States if you know what's good for you.
	That is fascism in its purest form.
	Well, I couldn't agree more.
	Well said.
	And here's Rick Wilson.
	Right now, this is the fraud that was this.
	This is the guy who's doing the Lincoln Project, right?
	Is that the guy?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.
	So he says Tucker's fault rage over the idea the NSA is monitoring his show to take him off the air is one stop short of his dog telling him to murder people.
	No, it's not.
	Keith Oberman believes that that's happening.
	We know that they're what are you talking about?
	They're spying on everybody.
	How many times has the government already been caught spying on Fox News reporters themselves, tapping their phones and doing things like that?
	What is that?
	But Jimmy, this is so important, actually, because just like Keith Oberman, Rick Wilson is kind of a prototypical establishment Democrat and liberal.
	He's the person to whom Democrats poured all of their money during the 2020 election and made him extremely rich in the name of stopping Trump.
	Rick Wilson is one of the worst scumbags in all of politics.
	He's the person who masterminded the 2002 ad that they ran against that Georgia senator, Max Cleland, who lost both the legs and his arm in the Bien Amor and morphed him into Osama bin Laden, which was for liberals at the time, one of the lowest blows in American politics.
	This is who now is shaping and defining liberal political strategy in the United States.
	And this stuff that he's saying there, like, oh, you have to be insane to believe that the NSA would actually spy on you, is the stuff that I heard from neocons and conservatives when I was doing the Snowden reporting.
	Like, oh, you want to convince people that the NSA cares enough to spy on you?
	This is that mentality.
	Like, you're fucking crazy.
	Just like saying, oh, if you think the CIA is doing coups in other countries, you must be, you need a psychiatrist, right?
	That's how they've always tried to delegitimize skepticism.
	And this isn't coming from Republicans anymore.
	It comes from Democrats.
	As I said, I'm about to go with Tucker Carlson's show and rebut stuff like this.
	But the other thing is that I think is so important and to note is I saw some leftists or liberals, like that woman who's on the majority report, that Emma person and a couple other people say that the reason why we shouldn't believe that Tucker Carlson would ever be spied on is because we know that the government is only scared of the left and not the right.
	So like, I guess they think like Sam, like power centers around the world are shaking in their boots over the danger and menace posed by Sam Cedar's radical ideology and all of the like, you know, threats that he poses to capital and militarism and the like.
	But if you look at what the government is actually saying, what DHS is saying, what the NSA and CIA are saying, what the FBI is saying, they're saying that they believe the greatest threat to the American homeland is right-wing extremism.
	They're initiating a war on terror in the name of stopping what they regard as right-wing extremists, anti-government extremists.
	They don't give a shit for Sam Cedar's a good little boy.
	That's right.
	He's a good little Democrat.
	He loves Russia Gate and he propagated the CIA's lies and bullshit.
	They love Sam Cedar.
	The people they're afraid of, by their own reckoning, are people they regard as anti-establishmentarians, people who question authority, people who impede their agenda, which to them means essentially anyone who's too far on the left or too far on the right.
	Brian Stelter, the media critic who doesn't know who advertises on his own show.
	That's what a good astute critic he is.
	Doesn't even know who's paying funding his own show and brags about it.
	Brian Stelter says, at a well-run network, Tucker's claim would have never aired.
	Where's the CEO, SVP VP?
	Where's the newsroom vetting the whistleblower?
	Where's common sense?
	Well, it's certainly not at your network.
	I'll tell you that.
	What about what?
	How about this?
	How about when CNN won't discipline Chris Cuomo for advising his brother to fight sexual harassment?
	How about that garbage that's been going on for a year?
	Go ahead, Glenn.
	No, Jimmy, because that tweet from Brian Stelter sucked up an entire hour at least of my day because I spent the entire hour after I read that doing nothing but posting screenshots of all of CNN's extraordinary fuck-ups and extreme journalistic malfeasance over the course of the last four years.
	Do you know I forgot about this that in 2017, when Julian Assange was in the Ecuadorian embassy, yet another CIA operative on the payroll of CNN, Phil Mudd, went on air and said that Julian Assange is a pedophile.
	He just said it outright.
	And Wikileaks said, you have 24 hours to retract that or we're going to sue you.
	And CNN went to the CIA goon and said, what's your evidence for it?
	And he had none.
	And they had to humiliate themselves by apologizing to WikiLeaks and posting a statement saying, we have absolutely no basis for believing that Julian Assange is a pedophile and we're deleting the tweets and all social media containing that video, but they put that out.
	They're the same network that has, you know, claimed that Donald Trump Jr. had advanced access to the WikiLeaks archives before it was published because they fucking misread the date on an email that some random douchebag in the public mailed to Donald Trump Jr. saying, hey, you should take a look at that WikiLeaks archive.
	They thought it was beforehand and they're like, oh my God, this proves it's a smoking gun that Trump Jr. had access to the WikiLeaks.
	When in fact, it was after WikiLeaks published it.
	It was just some guy from the public telling Trump Jr., hey, you should go take a look at this.
	Over and over and over, CNN has published one demented, deranged conspiracy and false theory after the next.
	They allowed Jimmy, Chris Cuomo, their host, repeatedly to interview his own brother, the governor of New York, and praise him and do hagiography like he's the greatest leader in the world, only for us to find out that not only was his brother serially harassing women who accused him of that while his brother was secretly consulting with his brother about how to manage those accusations,
	but at the same time was deceiving the public and the federal government about how many COVID deaths they had in nursing homes when his own brother was on CNN with him saying, you're the greatest leader since fucking Cicero.
	And now this like potato from CNN is going to lecture the world on what a proper media outlet does, even though the humiliations that CNN has piled up over the last four years is so sky high that nobody could ever surpass it.
	Didn't Chris Cuomo fake his own COVID release from his basement?
	He had already been out the week before.
	In fact, I know this.
	He had already been spotted outside his house a week before, and then he did a fake, I'm coming out of my basement a week later.
	And people, while he had COVID, he was going outside without a mask to the point that his doorman and like neighbors threatened to call the police if he didn't stop wearing a mask because they knew that he was positive with COVID.
	He was pretending that he was like in this strict isolation.
	On top of which, this to me is the biggest scandal.
	His brother, when he found out that Chris Cuomo had COVID, commandeered state resources to ensure that he had priority access to COVID tests and to state-run treatment.
	His brother dispatched cars from the state to take him to the doctor.
	So there were probably these like old 83-year-old women in Schenectady back in like April and May who couldn't get COVID tests as they like were drowning in their lungs because Andrew Cuomo prioritized his own brother and abused and exploited and squandered the resources of the state to give his brother, the CNN host, special COVID treatment.
	And when that got revealed, CNN came out and defended it, saying, we understand that you would always do anything for your brother in order to help him with his health.
	And here's Brian Stelter saying at a well-run network, this is what would happen.
	It's insane.
	After they just pushed every, how many, how many story stuff did we cover that CNN got wrong about Russia Gate?
	The one that he talks about the date, but they were constantly having to discipline people or fire people over the Russiagate thing.
	And then, by the way, you guys pushed an evidence-free conspiracy theory for five straight years, okay?
	So you guys are not a well-run network.
	And the trust in your network is at an all-time low.
	So this guy who's a media critic is more of just a straight-up propagandist.
	And of course, that's the guy that they hired at CNN to be the media critic, the guy who's got no problem being a propagandist.
	Of course, just like Yoam Chomsky said, if he thought anything different, he wouldn't have that job.
	That Brian Stelter has been groomed since kindergarten to be a fucking CNN newsman, and he doesn't realize it.
	All right.
	Over to Steph.
	You got to go?
	Do you want to do one more story with me or you got to go?
	No, I got to go.
	I know.
	I'm so stupid that I gave you a hear Steph's segment because as I said, it's always by far my favorite part of the show.
	I usually fast forward to wherever her parts come in and then I fast forward more when she's done.
	Hey, let's before I let you go, let's do this.
	This is fun.
	I had this prepared, but I didn't do it in a segment because I ended on a nice rant.
	I felt I was going to end it there, but let's.
	No, you get a little nervous when I'm on.
	We all know that.
	No, there's no doubt about it.
	Keith Oberman tweeted out, gotta say, I lived my entire life.
	This is how demented he's become from Trump.
	I've lived my entire life with the stain of Russian heritage in my family.
	He's a straight.
	What is that?
	That's like, you cannot get more racist than that.
	That is xenophobia to a T. Then came their conspiracy to alter the 2016 election.
	A year later, they hacked my computer.
	But now they've attacked my boy Panorin, so I'll make it official.
	F you, Vladimir Putin.
	Oh, my God.
	It gets worse.
	Watch this.
	We are at war with Russia.
	Turn it up.
	Or perhaps more correctly, we have lost a war with you.
	Watch.
	Go turn this up.
	Hold on.
	We are at war with Russia.
	Or perhaps more correctly, we have lost a war with Russia without a battle.
	We are no longer a sovereign Nation, we are no longer a democracy, we are no longer a free people.
	We are the victims of a bloodless coup, so far a bloodless coup engineered by Russia, which, if we did it to another country, would be described as an act of war.
	And in this country, we have conceded defeat.
	The nation and all of our freedoms hang by a thread, and the military apparatus of this country is about to be handed over to scum who are beholden to scum, Russian scum.
	These things are today, January 20th, will not be an inauguration.
	Oh, yeah, I remember that too.
	I remember that too.
	Yeah, it is.
	I mean, and he was, you know, doing it under the banner of resistance.
	Yeah, look at that.
	That's my favorite picture of him sitting on the floor, all scared in his little like flag womb.
	All right, Jimmy, I gotta go.
	All right, Glenn, it's great having you.
	Great talking to you.
	Always, always happy to come on the show.
	Bye, Steph.
	I'm good, Glenn.
	Okay, talk to you later.
	Let's go to London.
	Okay, bye.
	Hey, President Joe Biden's calling me.
	Hello.
	Hey, man, it's me, Joe Biden, 50th President of the United States of the Americas.
	Hi, Joe.
	What do you want?
	What do I want?
	I want you to stop it.
	Just stop it, man.
	You're saying this and that about that and this.
	You're all over the damn map with this stuff.
	And I'm laying it down here right now.
	Enough is enough.
	Okay, but what are you referring to?
	I don't know, man.
	Oh, now I remember.
	Those DVE guidelines put out by my office of the DNI in consultation with the AG, DHS, and the IC, meaning the CIA and DIA.
	Some of you have shoved it out or popped my mouth.
	That must mean they're taking me somewhere.
	And don't forget to wear a mask while you're out some places, but not others.
	Keep the faith.
	Hey, you know, there's a lot more to that phone call, but we don't have time in today's podcast.
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	All the voices performed today by the one and the only of the inimitable, Mike McRae, who can be found at MikeMcRae.com.
	That's it for this week.
	You be the best you can be, and I'll keep being me.
	Don't, don't, don't, don't.
	Don't freak out.
	Don't freak out.
	I'm not getting it.
	Don't, don't, don't, don't, break.
	Don't, you, don't.
	Don't, don't, do not freak out.
	Do not freak.
	Don't freak out.
	Do not, do not, do not.
	Do not freak.
	Do not freak.
	Do not freak out.

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