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June 24, 2021 - Jimmy Dore Show
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Hey, this is Jimmy.
Who's this?
This is Harrison Ford.
I'm almost sure of it.
Oh, hey, Harrison Ford.
How's tricks?
My shoulder's killing me.
Oh, that's right.
I understand you were injured during the filming of the fifth Indiana Jones movie currently in production.
Yeah.
We were rehearsing a fight scene and then my shoulder exploded or some shit.
Sounds painful.
It was.
So have they halted?
Have they halted production?
No, they're still working on it, but without me at the moment.
So what are you doing then?
Just smoking a lot of weed.
I mean, a fuck done, man.
Is that what the doctor told you to do?
What, doctor?
The doctor who treated your shoulder.
Oh, oh, oh.
I didn't see a doctor.
Why?
Because you're a big Hollywood tough guy?
No, because I faked my injury.
Then I said I went to the hospital, but in reality, I just went home.
But Harrison, you just told me that you hurt your shoulder.
Yeah, I was lying, dumbass.
I lie a lot now.
It's great.
It really gets you out of a lot of bullshit you don't want to do.
Such as filming a fifth fucking Indiana Jones movie.
Why the hell is that even happening?
It's ludicrous.
It sure as hell wasn't my idea.
Then why are you doing it?
All of these other people make all the decisions.
Producers, managers, agents.
I have no say in anything.
The only power I have is to constantly fake injuries.
And occasionally climb into an airplane and fly away.
It seems like you've had more control.
I would think you'd have more control over your career.
Well, sometimes I do, yeah.
You know, like most of the time when I refuse to do movies that I'm offered and I just smoke weed all day.
But when there's enough money on the line for other people to make, like with Indiana fucking Jones, I have to do it.
And Star Wars?
Exactly.
But even with that, I was able to get them to kill off Han Solo so I could stop being in those pieces of shit.
Can you do that here?
No way.
Star Wars was J.J. Abrams and Ryan Johnson.
Those guys are pushovers.
They're sissies.
Indiana Jones is Spielberg.
He always gets his way.
There's no way around it.
I tried.
I got right in his face, and then I did that finger thing.
And I said, you listen to me, you four-eyed blockbuster uterus.
You better kill Indiana Jones.
And he just chuckled.
Son of a bitch.
Wow, this is quite a conundrum, Harrison.
On Star Wars, I pretended to break my leg.
Ha, ha, ha, ha.
Ha, ha, ha, ha.
The guy just goes to does films pretend.
I broke my leg.
I thought that your leg break was real.
How do you break your leg on a fucking door, you moron?
laughter laughter laughter laughter Ah, I see.
I see.
So that's all I can do.
Stall, smoke weed, fake injuries, fly away until the nightmare ends.
I'm not sure you're going to get away with that.
Didn't you sign a contract?
Yeah, I also had to fill out a W-4.
I never know how much to withhold.
Ha ha ha ha.
Ha ha ha ha ha.
Ha ha ha ha.
Bye.
Bye.
So you're bound.
Jamie, I can't stand it.
This plot is so fucking stupid.
I have to find some statue of a fucking bird that can control the sun.
It's magic because the Hittites made it.
Do you see?
Sounds kind of a cool act.
It sounds kind of cool, actually.
Yeah, if you're 10 years old.
That's it, man.
I'm tired of stalling.
I'm going to crash a CESTA into the Ark of the Covenant.
This bullshit must end.
Establishment media sets of artists fighting.
So good luck.
Bullshit we can't afford, why is fomenting this?
Watch and see as it jacks off the median speeds and jumps the medium and hits them head on.
It's the Chimmy Tour Show.
Music He is the winner of the IF Stone Izzy Award for Independent Journalism.
He is a contributor to the nation and the gray zone.
He recently testified at the UN Security Council about the OPCW report on Syria, and he's host of Pushback.
Please welcome award-winning journalist Aaron Mate.
Hey, Aaron, how are you?
Jimmy, I'm well.
How are you?
I am a little tired today.
I don't know if I'm worn out by being smeared by a biggest online news show or from the side effects from my COVID vacc.
I think it's a combination of two.
It does wear you down when you have the number one online news show completely lose its mind and smear you in response to your criticism of their poor journalism and shady business practices.
I love that the video that they did.
It says TYT responds to Jimmy Dore, but they didn't respond at all.
And by the way, they're never going to respond to Aaron Mate.
Isn't that hilarious?
Where's their video TYT response to Aaron Mate?
There's not going to be one.
They did one with this guy named Pat Hilsman, and it got ratioed.
Their own video on their own website got ratioed.
So that was their response to Aaron Mate, and their response to me wasn't a response.
They didn't respond to any of my criticisms about why Jenks said that McCarthy could become speaker over Force to Vote, why he kneecapped Force to Vote, why he smeared Julian Assange, why he smeared Aaron Mate, and why did they do such shady fundraising for a whole year during a pandemic?
Those were my criticisms of Jenk Uger and the Young Turks.
they didn't respond to any of those.
So, that video you see that says TYT responds to Jimmy Dore.
That is not.
That is TYT smears Jimmy Dore in a desperate attempt to distract and deflect from Jimmy Dore's actual criticisms.
And everybody sees it because I'll show you a picture because they got ratioed.
Again, they're getting ratioed on their own video about me.
It's pretty pathetic.
So, let's, Aaron, let's tell everybody how it all started.
This came out of nowhere.
I don't know what to say.
They said Aaron Mate yelled at me.
Oh, Aaron Mate lied.
Oh, Aaron Mate.
Everyone cares what Aaron Mate has to say.
Right?
The guy who denies that Syrian children were killed with chemical attacks.
Yeah, fuck Aaron Mate.
Yeah, fuck you.
Anyway, let's move on.
Let's end the freaking pot.
I can't.
I can't.
Okay, see, that's what happened.
I can't stand, I can't stand that guy.
And I can't stand the very intentional disinformation they put out there in regard to disgusting dictators around the world.
The very people they seem to be working for, to be quite honest with you.
Let's move on.
All right, we're done.
Disgusting.
Absolutely disgusting.
If Aaron Mate feels really warm in his Russian blanket, it's like, oh, but the Russian government favors me.
He should be super proud of that.
Way to go, Aaron.
You did it.
Okay.
Yeah, I think Aaron paid by the government.
Yeah, fuck you.
Anyway, let's move on.
Let's end the freaking pot.
She's really a shrinking violet.
Does anyone believe anything they say?
Does anyone believe that I was inappropriate with her every day and she never said anything to anybody, even though she was the boss?
Does anyone believe any of that?
I don't think so.
So you went on, so Jenk Uger went on the rising, or you went on the rising.
You got invited on this show that nobody watches anymore.
It's 10 since Crystal and Sagre left.
What are you going to do?
It's not this guy's fault.
It's the whole anyway.
So anyway, you went on and they kind of asked you about it.
Now, Aaron, I found it weird that they brought you on this show and they asked you about your feud with Jenk Uger, but then they show up, they play a clip of Jenk Uger smearing me, not smearing you.
But anyway, I'm going to play it so I can show how Aaron completely destroyed the rising and Jenk Uger in this interview, right?
Here's how you should take control of an interview if you're ever interviewed.
He handles it like a master, right?
You can tell Aaron's been around a camera lately, right?
He knows what he's doing.
You think I'm kidding?
So watch this.
First, they play Jenk Uger, and then they come to Aaron and Aaron just buzz saw.
Can we get your thoughts on the ongoing feud with Jimmy Dore, which I know a lot of our viewers are following very closely?
Do you have anything to add to his most recent, I would say, comments on that issue?
No, look, the guy's kind of pathetic.
And so.
And he's crushing me in views right now.
That's how pathetic he is.
He's crushing me.
He's single-handled me, dismantled my reputation.
And he's revealed what a charlatan I am without much effort, really.
It's not that hard.
Anyway, back to you.
Back to you, Jake.
He's now, most of his fans are right-wingers.
Now, the irony is he's on a right-wing show.
Like, Jenkins realize that.
He's on it.
The Hill is a right-wing publication organization news show.
He doesn't realize that.
And so now he thinks that's going to insult me.
But what he's been, it's as if he went on MSNBC and he said, Jimmy, all Jimmy's fans are now Hillary voters.
And MSNBC, they're like, he's just like, we like that guy.
So that's a dumb insult.
But Aaron, you know, that's what they always do.
They did that to Bernie Sanders.
They go, Bernie Sanders, he's a Russian.
Bernie Sanders helped support Donald Trump.
Bernie Sanders is a sexist.
Bernie Sanders is a misogynist.
And all the Bernie bros are misogynistic harassers, right?
So that's what they do.
If you get to the left of the Democrat or a shitlib like him, the first thing they do is call you a right-winger.
The second thing is they smear you as a misogynist sexist.
That's the game book.
That's the game plan.
That's what Hillary Clinton did.
That's what Elizabeth Ward did with Bernie.
And this is the exact same playbook.
They got nothing else.
And so here we go.
And literally, the Daily Stormer wrote an article defending him yesterday.
Daily Storm is a neo-Nazi website.
So no.
One time CNN did that to me.
They put me in an article saying I was wrong about Syria and they put me in with the neo-Nazis.
And Jake literally defended me on that.
He's like, that's how crazy could you be?
And now here he is repeating the same smear that CNN did against me when he defended me on that.
And now he is using the same smear.
Jimmy's somehow a neo-Nazi.
So crazy.
Aaron Matei is paid by the Russians and he works for dictators that gas murder people.
And Jimmy Dore is a neo-Nazi now.
And all my listeners and fans are right-wingers.
This is what they're doing.
They can't.
They're getting mentaler.
All right, here we go.
Oh, look, I don't know that Jimmy asked for it.
So you can say, hey, well, they just happen to agree.
It's not Jimmy's fault that he agrees with neo-Nazis.
Okay.
Like, he doesn't realize that makes him look worse than me.
That you're so desperate.
They ask you about your feud with Jimmy Dore, and you don't mention anything about the feud.
You go to that he's a Nazi and his viewers are right-wingers.
That's all he's got, folks.
And the last time he was asked about it, they said I was being inappropriate at work.
I was a misogynist, Bernie sexist.
That's all they got.
Completely.
That's something that you apologized for at the time.
Yes.
And that was never an issue.
Never an issue.
I made a joke in a workspace, immediately apologized for it, wrote a card.
And that was before hashtag MeToo.
That was without a blackmail threat.
And that was without a pressure campaign.
That's because we were friends.
Everybody was friends.
And I showed you the kind of videos they played at the Young Turks and the stuff that they did.
Everybody talked about sex unbelievably over the top all the time.
And so I was...
And she's the producer of the show.
She could have fired me anytime she wanted, but she kept booking it.
So their backs are up against the corner and wall right now.
And so they're calling Aaron Matei Russian.
They're calling, they said Julian Assange was a Trumper.
And they said I harassed Anna, my boss.
And now Jake is saying I'm a neo-Nazi.
Holy shit.
There's no bottom.
But here we go.
There's no bottom.
Here we go.
Yes.
But that's disturbing.
And he's said and done terrible things.
He's a complete and utter liar.
What did I lie?
He won't.
What did I lie about?
What?
So beware, buyer, beware.
And by the way, what does Jimmy do all day, every day?
Attack progressives.
First of all, that's not true.
What I do all day, every day is smoke pot.
So I don't have time to do that and attack progressives all day, too.
So that's, again, that's a platinum on its fakes, you can tell them.
Okay, here we go.
What does Jimmy do all day, every day, attack progressives?
That's what he says.
Justice Democrats are no good.
You shouldn't trust the progressives in Congress.
Now, I just criticized Justice Democrats a little bit earlier, even though I. See what when Jimmy does it, it's bad and he's wrong.
When I do it, it's good.
Virtuous.
This is amazing.
This is the example he picks.
He says, first, I'm a Nazi.
My followers are right-wing.
And I criticize the Justice Democrats, which he just did in this segment.
I am blessed with the dumbest, idiot, most idiotic fucking enemies in the world.
I am so blessed.
You know, Marcos Aurelius would go and thank God.
He would pray, say, thank you for my enemies because they're so easy.
And that's how I feel here.
This is unbelievable.
He does not have a wartime consolieri.
So this is them just off, just going off the cuff trying to fucking smear me.
He hadn't thought it through, and now he passes.
It's hilarious.
Here we go.
Founded it.
I thought they should have fought harder on $15 minimum wage.
I thought they should have voted no.
They should have fought harder.
They didn't fight at all.
They should have fought harder on $15 minimum.
They didn't fight at all.
And you didn't launch a pressure campaign to get him to do it like I did.
Should have used their power, right?
But that requires nuance.
But now, on infrastructure bill, they're actually fighting really hard and they are blocking the bill.
So it depends on the facts, et cetera.
But that's what an intelligent person does.
Jimmy, on the other hand, wants to tear down all progressives.
He almost never criticizes Trump.
That's why his audience is mainly right-wing.
Trump hasn't been president for fucking six months for half a year.
And this guy, why don't you talk about Trump more?
That's how polluted his brain is on Trump derangements because his whole business model is getting clicks off of Trump.
And now it's gone and he doesn't know what to do.
And now his biggest video is when he talks about me.
And he gets ratioed on it.
He never criticizes Republicans.
His excuses, he's not relevant.
So this is so this is that loyalty test.
You have to are you so this is when he went on on Twitter and and he tweeted, I think you, Glenn Greenwald, did he include Matt Taibbi?
And he's like, when are you guys going to criticize Trump?
When are you guys going to criticize?
He did this like a week ago.
It was Russia.
He wanted us to denounce Russia.
Yeah.
Oh, what are you going to criticize?
I'm sorry.
When are you going to criticize Putin because of how he was treating Navalny?
That was it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What?
Yeah.
What are you guys going to criticize Putin?
That was it.
You're right.
Here we go.
Here we go.
He's one of the major Republican, one of the major parties in this country.
He's a lunatic who hates democracy.
And you don't think that's relevant?
Yeah, you don't think it's relevant because all your money and all of your audience is the right wing.
Jenkins money from Wall Street.
He got money from the DNC's biggest donors and right-winger buddy Romer.
This is what's called projection.
Remember, we talked about Carl Jung and projection.
That's what this is.
That's exactly this guy.
He's corporate funded to the teeth to the tune of $24 million.
But Jimmy Dore smoking pot in his garage, somehow that's the dirty money.
The guy who, after every video, says, don't keep your money.
Don't give me money.
That's what I do after every video.
But somehow I'm the one corrupted.
And this guy.
Okay, here we go.
Any progressive who gets tricked into believing Jimmy Dore is on your side.
Just look at his program.
Well, don't.
But if you look at his program, he's everything he says is over the top, ridiculous.
It's lies.
I mean, his lies about me are.
Well, let me hear it.
Endless.
If you ever listen to anything he says, did I lie when I said you smeared Julian Assange as a Trumper?
No.
Did I lie when you said when you McCarthy smeared an award-winning journalist, Aaron Matei?
No.
Did I lie when I said you did shady fundraising business practices?
No.
Did I lie when I said you were lying, when you tried to mislead everybody and kneecap forced the vote when you said McCarthy could become speaker?
No.
What lied, Jenk?
Here's another thing I said that is true that he's going to say I lied about.
Watch this.
A terrible mistake.
He says, I'm in favor of bombing Syria.
I've never said that.
Oops, Jank.
Yes, you did.
Yes, you did.
We got a video of you saying that.
Anyway, I'm going to play this.
I'm going to watch.
I'm going to let you watch Aaron Matei handle this and then I'll show you the video.
Here we go.
He's a preposterous liar.
He's a ridiculous liar and he serves the right wing and his effort is to destroy the progressive movement from within.
Beware of the crap that they are selling.
So now Jenk Uger is an admitted union buster who is now pushing imperialism and CIA talking points while smearing Julian Assange and anti-war journalists.
You tell me who's the progressive.
You tell me that he took $24 million from the DNC and click.
He's got a board that billionaires sit on.
That guy.
And he's telling you to beware of a pothead comedian in his garage.
Do you hear what he's saying?
Yes.
Okay.
Here we go.
And here comes Buzzsaw Aaron Matei to take him down.
Aaron, as you can see, Jenkin mention you, but we wanted to give you a chance to respond to some of the previous statements, especially around Syria.
Yeah, well, look, Jimmy can respond for himself, and I hope you will bring him on to answer what Jenks has said.
By the way, I caught one egregious lie where Jenks has said that he didn't advocate bombing Syria.
There's a clip from the Young Turks in 2013 that's been circulating where he does advocate bombing Syria.
So Jenk is lying because Jenk is a liar, as we saw when Jenk declared on his show that I'm paid by the Russians without any evidence because there is none.
He's just making it up.
And look, I think when Jenk talks about Jimmy's audience being right-wing, he's projecting.
Jimmy's success over these last few years has come from the fact that he's speaking to an audience that is upset by the Democratic Party because they haven't been left-wing enough.
Jimmy's actually an authentic progressive, and he's attracted people who are upset by the fact that the Democratic Party establishment has abandoned it and attracted people who are upset that outlets like the Young Turks that portray themselves as being progressive have abandoned progressive values and have done things like advocating for foreign interventions.
And in the case of Russia Gate, buying into the dumbest conspiracy theory of all time, which Jimmy Dore debunked.
So I think that's what helps explains this animus and these lies towards Jimmy Dore by Jenk.
And then I got involved when they directed it at me.
I was in Syria recently doing some reporting.
And they had this, him, Jenk, and Anna Kasparian had this on-air meltdown where they said I'm paid by the Russians and I deny the killing of children.
Anna Kasparian said that I likely work for dictators and she gave me the finger and told me to F off.
It was insane.
And I think that that meltdown reflects just like a general hostility that they have towards people who are upholding actual progressive values and upholding actual journalism standards.
So that was awesome, the way you handled that.
And then they wanted to switch the subject real quick, but you brought it right back.
So their next question was this.
Well, thanks for giving us your side, Aaron.
While we have you here, we wanted to get your thoughts on recent U.S. foreign policy developments with the Ukraine.
Okay, but look, let me first address the Syria part of this because it's important.
So the reason why they slandered me at that time is because I was in Syria.
And Syria is a touchy subject for many people on the left.
It has been divisive.
But the facts to me are pretty overwhelming.
And there's only a very small group of journalists that have been willing to acknowledge them.
My colleagues and I at the gray zone are among them.
So are Jimmy Doer, by the way.
Jimmy Dore has been telling the truth about the fact that the U.S. and its allies have waged, waged a multi-billion dollar dirty war that left Syria in ruins.
And I saw it firsthand when I was there.
And a part of that reporting that I've done has been on this scandal at the OPCW, the world's top chemical weapons watchdog, where you have evidence of a very significant cover-up.
So basically, in April 2018, the U.S., Britain, and France bombed Syria after they accused Syria of committing a chemical attack in the town of Douma.
And there was video footage from Douma put out by militants who controlled it at the time of dead bodies.
And they said that they were killed by a chemical attack.
So Trump led the way in bombing Syria.
A year later, the OPCW came out with a report basically aligning with the U.S. narrative that Syria was guilty of a chlorine attack.
But then we got an extraordinary series of leaks that showed that actually the inspectors from the OPCW who went to Douma, they wrote up a report and that report said there was no evidence of a chemical attack.
And if you read the report closely, you actually see indications that they found evidence that this thing was staged.
But instead of having their findings released to the public, people above them censored their report, tried to doctor the conclusions to falsely suggest Syrian government guilt.
And basically, these inspectors, after they protested the censorship, they were taken off of the case.
And we know this now because of a huge trove of documents that have come out via WikiLeaks and also at the Grey Zone.
So I've been reporting on this for the last two years.
It's an extraordinary story.
It's a major pro-war deception, and it's allegations of a cover-up at the world's top chemical weapons watchdog, basically in the interest of the U.S. So I've been pretty much alone in the U.S. media and covering it.
And so the young Turks, instead of covering this story, have ignored it.
And then when I went to Syria and I put out a short video talking about it, that helped trigger this meltdown.
So what they've done in doing this is actually helping to bring attention to the story, which the rest of media have ignored, which I'm grateful for.
But it also shows how progressive media outlets have been completely co-opted into going along with the talking points and narratives of the establishment to the point that they're willing to slander independent journalists who are covering such an explosive story such as a cover-up at the world's top chemical weapons watchdog.
So it's been a very unpleasant experience, but on the positive side, it has helped bring attention to this important story of the OPCW whistleblowers.
I just wanted to make that clear.
Bam.
Aaron, thank you for, for your.
And, you know, in these two guys who are interviewing you in their defense, I don't think this is their real job.
I think they have other jobs.
I don't think that's their, they're just doing this as a thing.
But Aaron, that was fantastic.
And I really, I want to say personal thank you for defending me like that.
You did it better than I could have done it myself.
So I really appreciate you doing that.
And what would you like to say?
Well, I just wanted to say that.
Well, you know what?
Listen, Jimmy, I actually missed one thing.
When Jenk says in a disparaging way that you have audience members who are right-wing, that's only a insult if you see your task as a journalist as being a partisan hack.
Yes.
As only reaching your own crowd.
I want to reach out to people across the aisle.
You know, when you did a live show here in Brooklyn a couple of years ago, it was great to meet people who came up to me and said, you know, I don't agree with you on most things, but I appreciate your perspective and your honesty.
And you've changed my mind on a couple of things.
That's great.
We want to be able to reach people.
But people who drink the Kool-Aid of partisan hackery, like Jenk, as he's made very clear, see that somehow reaching out to a broad audience is an insult.
I don't at all.
I think it's great.
It's a measure of one's effectiveness if they're reaching not just those who already agree with them, but come from a different ideological background.
That's the kind of journalism I want to be doing.
And that's why it's great to be a part of your show's communities because we're talking to people who don't agree with us in everything, but they're willing to listen to us, maybe have their minds changed.
That's a wonderful thing.
But someone like Jenk, who only thinks in terms of partisan hackery, somehow sees that as an insult.
So it's interesting that he said that and very, very revealing.
And by the way, also revealing what he says, he's a preposterous liar.
Who used the word preposterous like that?
You know what I mean?
He's not like a member of a country club.
He's a preposterous liar.
I do declare that Jimmy Dore is a neo-Nazi and a preposterous liar.
He really went there.
It's like there's such a cartoon now.
They've tried everything.
They've tried to hashtag me to me.
They did the, I'm right-winger.
Now I'm a neo-Nazi.
And he says I lied about him.
But the only thing he points to, the lie he points to, is something he's lying about.
He did say that.
I'm going to show.
First of all, you're so when Jenk goes on there, right, he went on there.
I'm guessing he went on there as some kind of damage control for the video we did about the young Turks, which just decimated them because it revealed them to all be phonies and faux progressives who have faux outrage at me and Aaron Matei right now because we're criticizing them honestly and accurately.
And then so they had to pretend that they were now some kind of right-wing Christians who were running a Boy Scout farm over at the Howard Stern show.
And so I outed them, right, Jenkins is Jenk would take revenge porn and he would put it up on his website, revenge porn, that people would post.
He would get a hold of it and then he would put it up at his website and tell all his viewers to go look at it uncensored.
He would do that for clicks.
That's worse than a pornographer.
So I showed that he did that on the regular and Anna too.
They did that on the regular.
They would have segments where they zoomed in on women's vaginas and they said, who guess whose camel toe it is?
And you'd have to guess the celebrity and they would zoom in on their vagina.
And they did, I mean, they did many, many worse things than that.
And I knew that and I knew they were trying to be Howard Stern and I just ignored it.
And I focused on the positive stuff they did.
And then they tried to act like they were some kind of choir boys and they, we are moral and ethical.
And if you like Jimmy Doer, we don't want you.
And so I had to show everybody that they're pigs and that Jenk Ugler is the biggest pig creep in the world and that he's doing this to deflect because we got him.
I showed you how he smeared Julian Assange and now he's gotten, he will not apologize to Aaron Matei.
He will not do that.
And so instead of doing this like a true megalomaniac like Trump, he doubles down.
This is him doubling down.
Now he's calling me a neo-Nazi.
It's amazing.
I'm sure he'll call Aaron Matei KKK tomorrow.
And he'll say he's taking Gaddafi money even though Gaddafi's dead.
And so here when you go on, so Jenk gets ratioed.
Jenk goes on this show to try to rehabilitate his reputation from the beating he took from me.
And I didn't do it.
I just played clips of him.
I didn't say anything.
I just played clips of him.
And there it is on the hill: 1.6,000 dislikes, 646 likes.
And in five days, only 22 people gave an F about what Jenk Uger had to say.
In five days, that guy's got 5 million subscribers on YouTube and no one gives a shit at all.
And the people who do watch hate him.
22,000, yeah.
Yeah, that's it.
This guy's got, well, Aaron the Hammer, he goes on.
The BuzzSaw, he's got, what is this, 45,000 views in one day?
In one day.
And positive ratio: 2.3,000 likes to 349 dislikes.
I think people see what Jenk is doing.
That's the point of me showing you this is showing you how, first, how a buzzsaw hammer Aaron Matei handles an interview like nobody else and how he uses his meticulous facts to debunk a smear and he did that and uh the second thing is to show that no one's buying it no one's buying what jenk's saying at all no matter where he goes even at his own website even at his own website people aren't buying what he's saying and i'll show you that in a minute but let just go ahead aaron you want to add
Before I show, because I want to show a video of just how pro-war Cenk Uygur is, right?
So I'm going to show the video of him saying he wants to bomb Syria.
And then I'll show you a video of him saying let's bomb Libya.
Okay.
Yeah.
Go ahead.
Well, again, just one more point, you know, which I've said before.
This whole thing is happening because they smeared me first.
He wouldn't be saying all these things about you if he hadn't have been humiliated by the fact that he declared that I'm paid by the Russians.
And Anna had that meltdown along with them and they look like juvenile children in their unhinged meltdown.
And instead of just apologizing, this then devolved into this stupid allegation against you.
And they just keep doubling down and doubling down.
And it's sad.
And it now resorts to him lying about his own record on the Hill.
But he says that you lied about him and claiming that he wanted to bomb Syria.
Well, you know, as we'll see, that's a lie.
He did claim he did advocate bombing Syria.
So here's what Cenk said.
Your thoughts on the ongoing feud with Jimmy, which a lot of our viewers are following very closely.
Do you have anything to add to his most recent, I would say, comments on that issue?
Everything he says is over the top.
Ridiculous.
It's lies.
His lies about me are endless.
He says I'm in favor of bombing Syria.
I've never said that.
He's preposterous.
It's ridiculous.
It's lies.
I mean, his lies about me are endless.
He says I'm in favor of bombing Syria.
I've never said that.
He's a preposterous liar.
He's a ridiculous liar.
By the way, I caught one egregious lie where Cenk just said that he didn't advocate bombing Syria.
There's a clip from the Young Turks in 2013 that's been circulating where he does advocate bombing Syria.
So Cenk is lying because Cenk is a liar.
Did they cross the red line or didn't they?
Now, look, I know it's a tough situation.
And I've said that about Syria all along.
And I know that they're partly buying time here.
But the reality is they don't want to go.
They were bluffing, hoping that they wouldn't cross the red line.
And I know that there was good reason to bluff.
Because we wanted to make sure they didn't use chemical or biological weapons.
But now our bluff's been called.
So what are you going to do?
Now, let me show you why they don't want to take military action.
First of all, the American people have been polled.
They don't want to go.
62% say hell no.
24% say yes.
Now, I'm partly in the yes category.
So there it is.
He's in the yes category.
They called our bluff.
You have to do something.
There's Cenk advocating for bombing Syria.
And there's more to it.
I'll just cut it.
But there's Cenk advocating for bombing Syria.
And this is just one video.
By the way, there's videos.
When we were on Current TV together, it was me arguing against Cenk and Johnny who were pro-bombing Syria.
And I'm like, are you guys nuts?
You're going to believe the CIA?
You're going to believe our intelligence community?
After Libya?
After Iraq?
You're still believing them?
But those videos are all scrubbed, right?
Because those are on Current TV.
That's gone.
So this is the only one I could get.
But there he is.
There he is saying, I'm in the yes camp.
I'm for bombing Syria.
Even if you're for it.
Even if you're against it, I'm for it.
I don't want ground troops.
That would be an absolute mess.
But I think if we drew a red line and we said, hey, listen, we're going to set a precedent not to use chemical, biological, or nuclear weapons.
And a dictator has crossed that line.
I think using our Air Force is a significant possibility.
And we could, you know, knock down their entire fleet probably fairly quickly and efficiently.
There you go.
We could, well, we just go in there and knock down their fleet.
Whatever.
No one gets hurt.
We just knock it down.
And then everything's safe.
And then no more chemical attacks.
And that's how you do it.
That's how you fix things.
That's Cenk.
That's Cenk.
Lying.
Because remember, he said that I'm a preposterous liar.
A preposterous liar.
I do declare.
I'm a preposterous liar.
I never said we should bomb Syria.
There it is.
And I wish I had the video of where I argued with him about it because it exists, but I just don't know how to find it.
So there it is.
Do you need in a rant?
He went on a rant about how Jimmy Doerr is a preposterous, ridiculous liar.
And when asked what he lied about, he points to a thing that Cenk's actually lying about.
Jimmy Doerr didn't lie.
That's just amazing.
When asked, well, what can you point?
So they do a video called TYT responds to Jimmy Doerr.
They don't respond to any one of my criticisms of them.
They just slander me.
Now Cenk Uygur calls me a Nazi and says I lied and said he advocated for bombing Syria.
Well, here he is advocating for bombing Syria.
So as he's trying to call me a preposterous liar, Cenk's only defense is a blatant lie.
Calls me a right wing.
My fans are right wingers.
I'm a neo-Nazi.
And I lie about him all the time and endless lies.
And then what did he say?
I lied about that.
And I didn't.
We got him.
So if you'd like to see Cenk Uygur, this is Cenk Uygur.
Now remember, this is after Afghanistan.
This is after Iraq.
This is him with Libya.
Ladies and gentlemen, we got him.
Down goes Gaddafi.
It appears.
Down goes Gaddafi.
So right now.
He's giddy.
Like he just won a basketball game or a football championship.
They're giddy.
Do you know what we just did?
We just toppled the most successful state in the whole continent.
And we turn it into a failed state with slave markets.
wrecked people's lives and he's cheering it we have not gotten Qaddafi captured yet but it appears that he has lost control of Tripoli two of his sons are gone meaning Saif al-Islam and two other sons uh are actually been captured then we've got Qamis and Mutassim uh who are still apparently fighting so a couple of sons out there and a couple of sons detained one of the sons detained said, Me?
No, I've been with the Libyan people the whole time.
What, there's a war going on?
I didn't know that.
No, no, no.
I've always been for freedom.
Come on, dude.
Come on.
Okay.
His prime minister is already prime minister, has already fled to Tunisia.
And people in Tunisia are like, we don't know why he showed up here.
But he, you know, why?
Because he had to get to.
Boy, he's why is he so giddy about this?
Isn't that weird that he's giddy?
But this is because Jenkin was born a conservative Republican.
He admits that, right?
That's what he says.
And he was for every war.
And he did pro-war rallies in college.
Imagine that.
Being in college, you're of the age you could go fight in the war, but you don't, but you do a pro-war rally.
Wow.
So here we go.
Watch, I just want to show a little bit more of this and then we'll come.
Cloud of tripoli, okay?
Because it's over.
O-V-A-H.
Gaddafi's done.
Okay.
Now, who's the man who supported the Libya policy?
Well, almost no one else did.
Hey, Hayston, can you remind me who that was?
Let's just take a quick look here.
But when you go to the substance of whether they should have done the no-fly zone or not, if I was in Congress, would I have voted for it?
Given the limited scope of it, yes, I would have agreed to it.
It's very ironic.
So there is Jenk Uger bragging that he got Libya right and he was for it when no one else was.
He's bragging that he was for the bombing of Libya and the overthrow of a sovereign nation by NATO.
There he is cheering it up.
That's your, there's your progressive hero.
That's your progressive hero.
A guy who advocates bombing brown people, and then he says he can't be that guy because he's brown too.
Well, guess who else is Brown?
Saddam Hussein, Muamar Gaddafi, Assad.
So there he is.
Aaron, come on.
Let me bring you.
I just wanted to show people that.
Just to show, I mean, it goes on and on and on.
It's a five-minute video of him bragging that he got Libya right and that we did it right and that it was successful.
And it's just him cheering on.
He's giddy over imperialism.
That's the real Jenk.
Anything you'd like to add to that?
Well, yeah, no, and this is the sad thing about them.
You know, I think it's okay to make mistakes.
People evolve in their views.
I've evolved in some of my views.
But if I had so many humiliating videos out there where I'm a bigot, I'm a misogynist, and I'm a pro-war hack like Jenk does.
What I'd be doing is apologizing for my past views, not doubling down by lying against people like you and I. We don't have videos like that out there.
No.
We've been consistent in our principles and we're not misogynists and we're not pro-war activists like Jenk once was.
So instead of just owning up to his past views and owning up to his slander now of both you and I, he keeps doubling down.
So what are we supposed to do?
I mean, how could we not bring up videos like this and show what a hypocrite he is?
I mean, you already did the show when you went through just some of the clips of Jenk's misogyny, which was just like, it was disgusting.
And I don't know, I didn't even like, I don't know how he speaks in public without deeply, without being deeply shameful, all the things he's done in the past.
But I think that's, you know, that's what always happens with people who project.
They see in others traits that they resent about themselves.
In the case of you and I, we've been right.
We were right about Russia Gate.
We were right about foreign interventions like Libya and Syria.
And we've done so while upholding progressive values.
He claims to be a progressive while taking DNC corporate money and advocating for all, you know, the top DNC foreign policies like Libya, the Syrian dirty war, and buying into dumb conspiracy theories like Russia Gates.
So he'll naturally be hostile towards people who actually embody the views that he falsely claims to uphold.
And it's led to this really ugly thing.
But as I said on the Hill, for me personally, at least, the positive thing is that whereas before all this, so many people in the media just ignored the OPCW story, which to me is one of the most important stories of the century.
This pro-war cover-up at the OPCW, the silencing of these brave whistleblowers, and Trump bombing Syria based on patently false grounds, this lie that Syria committed a chlorine attack, all of which covers up for who really killed those people in Duma, because if it wasn't the Syrian government, as the U.S. claimed, then they died in some other way.
They died in basically some sort of awful fashion that we don't know yet.
So before this, you know, even though the facts were so overwhelming, there's been all these documents.
We've done so much.
You and I have talked about it a lot.
I've done 10 stories on it, mostly at the gray zone.
It just wasn't cutting through.
But then the young Turks were shameful enough to refuse to own up to their own views in slandering me that they tried to double down by making the Syria cover-up thing an issue and doing this ridiculous segment where they brought on someone who has no clue what he's talking about.
And it's produced a grand total of four paragraphs on the topic.
It's led to more attention for the issue.
So in their mendacity, it's annoying, but at least it's brought some attention to the issues that you and I care about and have tried to bring to light to a broader public.
Yeah, so that is what's called the Streisand effect, Aaron.
I'm pretty sure.
So in their attempt to like cover their ass for being McCarthy smearing imperialists, they actually brought more attention to their McCarthy smearing imperialism.
And they brought more attention to your good work on Syria and the OPCW's whistleblowers.
They brought actually more because nobody, people in like the Hill would never have talked about that if there wasn't this feud happening, right?
So what they wanted was like they're a show that just lost 100,000 subscribers and they wanted to get some clicks on some salacious internet stuff.
And that's exactly what it didn't work with Jenk because no one wants to hear from him, but it did work when you went on and you debunked it, right?
People want to hear that.
They don't want to hear the claptrap anymore from establishment pukes like Jenk Uger, who is establishment.
You know, he is anti-union and he's in bed with the biggest donors the DNC has and he takes their money and they sit on his board.
They sit on his board as they're funding Hillary Clinton's campaign.
As they're funding Joe Biden's campaign, they're sitting on the Young Turks board.
The Young Turks are out there saying to vote for it.
It's so crazy.
Hey, this is Jimmy.
Who's this?
This is West Virginia Senator Joe Manchin from the great state of West Virginia.
Don't want to ask me a question or two about such and whatnot, but you need to be holding it in for a spell.
That's right.
Hold your horses.
You hear me?
Have you ever been around a horse, Joe?
No, but I've been around a lot of mind disasters.
Stop spinning your web because it's flying fine in the no parlor while some lady is playing on the piani and eating cucumber sandwiches.
But seeing as I am the most powerful man on Call Screen Earth right now, I shall allow you one question.
What finally made you approve advancing the elections bill?
One pallet of fried pork rinds delivered to my office once a week for the next six weeks.
That's all it took.
but they also deleted a bunch of stuff about voting rights.
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