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June 3, 2021 - Jimmy Dore Show
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Get ready for an outstanding entertainment program.
The Jimmy Dore Show.
Hey, this is Jimmy.
Who's this?
Jimmy, it's Jake Tapper.
Oh, hi, Jake Tapper.
From the league with Jake Tapper.
Right.
I know.
That's a news television program on CNN.
Yes, we know, Jake.
We're aware.
What is on your mind, buddy?
Well, Jimmy, I'll tell you what's on my mind.
The same thing that is on the mind of so many Americans and people around the world.
UFOs.
Okay.
Uh-huh.
Jimmy, have you seen these UFOs?
Have I?
No, not personally.
No, I haven't.
Well, I mean, of course, you and I haven't seen them in person.
Only the U.S. military gets to see them.
But have you seen the footage that was released by the U.S. military?
Yeah, Jake, I saw it.
Sort of looks like some grainy footage of flying saucers I've been seeing my whole life.
No little green men yet, though, are there?
These aren't flying saucers, Jimmy.
They're Tic-Tacs.
A new UFO shape just dropped.
Wow, how exciting.
Oh, now listen to me.
UFOs.
I sound like such a fuddy duddy.
Now they're called UAPs.
Unexplained aerial phenomenon.
That's the new term being used by the U.S. military.
We better start getting hip to the cool new lingo that comes from the U.S. military.
Okay, Jake, don't you think it's suspicious that all this information is coming from the U.S. military?
No other witnesses of these things?
No!
No!
Okay.
Okay, well, I just think it's odd that people on commercial flights, cruise ships, freighters, even the beach haven't seen these UFOs.
Everyone has a video camera in their pockets these days.
Where is other footage?
Well, any civilization advanced enough to come to Earth from other galaxies would certainly have the technology to make themselves visible or invisible to whomever they saw fit.
So clearly they have decided, in all of their intergalactic wisdom, to reveal themselves exclusively to the U.S. military.
It's quite an honor for our nation.
Okay.
Why would they reveal themselves to the U.S. military, fly around them, but not communicate it all?
Surely they could.
I don't know.
Maybe they're shy.
We just don't know anything about their civilization.
Maybe in their culture, it's considered rude to make the first move.
Our knowledge of space etiquette is extremely limited, Jimmy.
Or these videos and testimonies could be completely fake.
Jimmy, grow up.
I don't think the U.S. military is in the business of lying about things.
are this important.
Okay, let's say the videos are real.
Could they be foreign technology spying on our military?
Jimmy, these objects are zipping and zapping all the fuck over the place.
Then they disappear.
They move at 16,000 miles an hour.
No nation on earth has that technology.
Well, what if another country has developed technology to project these images into the sky?
Kind of like a holographic laser pointer.
Light can certainly travel that fast and then disappear.
Jimmy, are you seriously suggesting that this phenomenon is basically like a Pink Floyd laser light show?
I'm being skeptical, just like CNN should be.
Well, we're being objective.
We're not jumping to conclusions.
We're simply calling them UAPs, just like the U.S. military does.
But yeah, we're going to report on it.
The only reason we wouldn't report on this phenomenon would be if Chris Cuomo's brother were a UFO.
I mean UAP.
I see.
The Pentagon will be delivering a report on these UAPs to Congress sometime in late June.
And you can bet your bottom dollar we will be reporting on that report.
You mean just repeating what the military is claiming about these UFOs?
That's what you mean?
Yes, since they're the only ones who have encountered this, they're the only ones who can tell us anything about them.
So we will essentially be repeating whatever the U.S. military says about them.
Sounds like good journalism.
Thank you, Jimmy.
I appreciate that.
But please, let's use UAPs.
That's the preferred term now.
I think it would be rude to mislabel these visitors to our planet right out of the gate.
Language matters.
Jesus.
Oh, yeah.
Sorry.
I mean, I don't want to offend the aliens.
If that's even what they are, we won't know for sure until the Pentagon says so.
But let's go with aliens because that's cooler.
We're trying to get some eyes on TV screens.
Okay, Jake.
You know, it's always exciting when the corporate media, the military-industrial complex, and the dull intellect of the American people are working together smoothly in concert.
Anyway, gotta go.
I've got some reporting to do.
Jake Tapper.
Establishment media sucks All gaslighting, so good luck Bullshit we can't afford Fomenting this Watch and see as the jack-off The median speeds and jumps the medium And hits them head-on It's the Chimitor Show music Aaron Matei is with us.
Now you know him.
He's our special guest for a limited time.
He's a contributor to the nation in the gray zone.
He's the winner of the I.F. Stone Izzy Award for Independent Journalism for his meticulous debunking of the Russia Gate narrative.
You can read his work at his new substack, mate.substack.com.
Please welcome all the way from Syria award-winning journalist Aaron Matei.
Hi, Aaron.
How are you?
Hi, Jimmy.
How are you?
I'm good.
I said your name both ways just to make sure I had it right.
All right.
I got to get into this.
You were unbelievably, you unbelievably slandered or libeled.
I don't know what it is, but it was by the young Turks.
And I'm just going to, you tweeted this out.
You said, in this insane and libelist clip, Jenk Uger and Anna Kasperian say that I am paid by the Russians, seem to be working for dictators and deny chemical attacks on children.
I don't care about their disdain for me, but I do care about being smeared.
Now, I just want to let everybody know that Aaron has done some of the premier work on this, debunking the pro-war narrative, CIA narrative, the intelligence community, the military-industrial complex narrative, the State Department's narrative on Syria, which is that we have to go get involved in a war in Syria because Assad is using chemical weapons on his own people.
Well, we've debunked that.
In fact, the OPCW had two different whistleblowers, and you've covered that.
You've testified in front of the UN on that.
Aaron Matei is the premier debunker of this pro-war narrative.
And now he's actually on the ground in Syria reporting live from Syria.
So I just want to show you what the young Turks had to say about him.
Now, keep in mind, they did similar things to Julian Assange, but here they are doing it to this guy.
And I don't know what to say.
They said Aaron Mate yelled at me.
Oh, Aaron Mate lied.
Oh, Aaron Mate.
Everyone cares what Aaron Mate has to say, right?
The guy who denies that Syrian children were killed with chemical attacks.
Yeah, fuck Aaron Mate.
Yeah, fuck you.
Anyway, let's move on.
Let's end the freaking pot.
I can't, I can't.
Okay, see, that's what happened.
I can't stand, I can't stand that guy, and I can't stand the very intentional disinformation they put out there in regard to disgusting dictators around the world.
The very people they seem to be working for, to be quite honest with you.
Let's move on.
All right, we're done.
Disgusting.
Absolutely disgusting.
If Aaron Mate feels really warm in his Russian blanket, he's like, oh, but the Russian government favors me.
He should be super proud of that.
Way to go, Aaron.
You did it.
Okay.
Yeah, fuck Aaron.
Yeah, fuck you.
Anyway, let's move on.
Let's end the freaking pot.
Okay.
I put a little loop on that at the end, but that was fantastic.
That's supposed to be a newscast, folks.
That is supposed to be a newscast.
It sounds like the ending of a cult meeting.
That's what that sounds like more.
He wasn't sure if he was going to go.
Jake wasn't sure if he was going to go for the paid by the Russian smear or not, but he went for it.
He went all on, fuck you, Aaron.
All I have to say to you, Aaron Matei, is fuck you.
Leave Moeller alone.
Leave Moeller alone.
And people say that MS, that they're not, they're not, they're the same as MSNBC.
Obviously, they're not.
You can't swear on MSNBC.
So that's where there are big differences.
So let me bring in Aaron.
I just want to show this is the kind of coverage that Aaron's been debunking, and we've been debunking here.
This is how CNN covered Syria when they claimed there was a gas attack.
This is what they did.
They sent this woman, who, by the way, is the granddaughter of the former deposed president of Syria.
And here's what, there's the investigation she did.
There's definitely something that stings.
So that's the, and I just want to, so you went on and said they're free to have their own beliefs, but they're not allowed to smear you.
You've never been paid by the Russians, and you've never denied chemical attacks on children.
That's McCarthy, it trashed and libelists.
And here you are saying chemical attacks.
I've covered one of the biggest pro-war deceptions since Iraq, the stage incident in Douma in the OPCW cover-up scandal that exposed it.
Doing Trump's bidding, journalists like Jenk Uger and Anna Kasparian have completely ignored it.
They won't cover this.
So, Aaron, you've blown the whistle off this, and they refuse to cover this at the Young Turks.
Of course, the mainstream media isn't giving you any press, but you think alternative news would.
Of course, they're not doing that.
In fact, they're pushing the State Department, military-industrial complex establishment, bullshit Syria war bullshit.
And you're here debunking it.
I have a few more things, and then I want to bring you in.
You say when Jenk Uger opens by saying Aaron Matei yelled at me, I think he's referring to this tweet from below.
We can judge for yourself at this concept.
So here it is.
So Jenk Uger made one of the dumbest tweets of all time.
He said, Israelis and Palestinians kill each other over which sky god they pretend to speak to.
And it's politically incorrect to point out there is no human god, let alone one that favors Jews or Muslims, all this violence over the equivalent of which character they like better in the MCU.
And then you came back by saying, my God tells me this is the worst tweet of all time.
And so you ratioed him like crazy on that tweet.
And by thousands.
And so that obviously stuck in his craw because he has said all that crazy shit about you.
And so you said, only state you've ever worked for is Cotter as an Al Jazeera producer.
And I've never worked or been paid by Russia or any Russians or any other state.
By the way, when it comes to being paid shilling for disgusting people who kill children, Anna Kasparian doesn't need to look far.
So she's your disgusting, every disgusting killing children.
But here she is talking to a bona fide war criminal who've admitted to killing half a million children.
And she's here.
We have heard that a half a million children have died.
I mean, that's more children than died in Hiroshima.
And, you know, is the price worth it?
I think this is a very hard choice, but the price, we think the price is worth it.
And instead, it was just a softball interview for which Kasparian, I mean, it appeared to have been a paid gig for a NATO conference.
Welcome to your MSC.
I am delighted to be here and to have a conversation with the former U.S. Secretary of State under Bill Clinton, Madeline Albright.
And Madeline Albright was actually the first female Secretary of State in the U.S. And it is a pleasure to have you here.
It's an honor to have a conversation with you.
I'm delighted to be interviewed by you.
Thank you very much.
So Katie Helper said, I hope they apologize and clarify that they were indeed making stuff up about you out of their asses while claiming to be the reasonable adults in the room who distinguish themselves from unhinged ego-driven conspiracy theorists.
So that was Anna Kasparian completely doing the exact opposite.
She has all the distained in the world for you, but not for an actual war criminal who admits to killing half a million people.
She incorrectly says that you deny some children being killed.
That's not true.
She responded to Katie Helper by saying he's reporting glowingly about Assad in Syria right now.
That, of course, is not true whatsoever.
Again, just making glowingly.
Of course, she didn't link to a video.
Of course, she didn't link to anything.
She didn't clip anything or show you some of the glowing, nothing.
Just made it up, just like they made up the Russian thing, just like they made up.
He's denying something, just like everything they made up.
She said he's admitted himself to both receiving financial awards from pro-Assad groups and working with Russian-backed media to leak personal info on anti-Assad activists.
I might curse a lot, but I also read a lot.
Try it.
Now, I just want to tell people what she's, when she says that you've received money from a pro-Assad group, I've received money from that group too.
They're not a pro-Assad group.
They're anti-interventionist group.
They're a peace organization here in California, and nobody will tell the truth about the bullshit narrative about the Syria war.
So that's why they did that.
She pretends that's pro-Assad.
That'd be the equivalent of what in the run-up to the Iraq war, if we did work that showed that the WMD thing was a lie, and then someone gave us a word for that.
They would call that pro-Saddam Hussein money.
That's the equivalent of what they're doing.
So Aaron Matei tweets on, unlike your glowing NATO furnished interview with Madeline Albright, I'm not reporting glowingly about Assad.
I never have.
What's your evidence?
The same with the rest of your bullshit claims.
What you've read a lot are tweets by pro-war hacks lying about me.
And her response to this was really detailed.
She said, LOL.
That was her response.
That was her response.
So again, no, nothing, no link to your reporting that she's claiming you're doing.
No, nothing.
No, no disputing of anything you've ever factually said.
Just complete garbage smears by someone from the National Inquirer.
That's the level.
That's not even Fox News level.
That's not even Alex Jones level.
That's National Inquirer level.
And that's what TYT is now.
Aaron, I don't agree with Anna's characterization of your work, but it does seem somewhat hypocritical of you to be outraged by a lack of charitability after you explicitly accused her of promoting NATO.
Well, it's because she did promote NATO, and I think we just showed that.
Yes, where have I gotten this from?
Here it is.
You want to see where she got it from here.
Welcome, everyone.
I'm Anna Kasparian, and we're about to have a conversation with Ian Bremer.
He's the founder of Eurasia Group, and we're going to discuss U.S.-China relations along with the role of NATO in attempting to keep peace internationally.
I hope you enjoy.
Oh, that's a you're at the Munich Security Conference, your MSC 2020.
Now, I got invited to one of those things in Oslo, and I got kicked out on the first day because I called them all war criminals, which is what they are.
Ronya Kalek said, Can you please explain why Madeline Albright is good enough for you to give a glowing interview to despite her saying the death of 500,000 children in Iraq in the 90s from sanctions was worth it?
But Aaron Mate is evil and deserving of your smears.
You are smearing an award-winning journalist who exposed the WMD scandal.
You should be ashamed of yourself.
You'll be a glowing interview of a, you'll do a glowing interview of a child-killing sanctions cheerleader, Madeline Albright, but then smear an anti-war journalist.
That's very revealing behavior.
Wow.
So let me just, there's more I'm going to get to, but I want to bring in Aaron and just to get your reaction to this about what when you saw this, what you thought, and just your reaction.
There's so many lies in that little book.
Also, then in this where to start.
I mean, look, starting with Jenksang, declaring that I'm paid by the Russians, it's just a lie.
He's just fucking lying.
And I don't know, like, like, do they consider themselves journalists?
I actually don't know.
Do they call them, do they think of themselves as journalists?
I wouldn't presume that because my understanding of their show is they just sit there and talk for like four hours and nobody watches.
That's my understanding of what TYT is now.
But it's like, if they consider themselves journalists, where does it enter their head that they can just say stuff like that?
And Ben claims that I'm paid by Russia.
It's crazy.
And then going on and on and on to everything else they say, like, and look, it's a part of this thing.
It's, it's really come very clear in Russia Gate where a lot of people who consider themselves progressive either got duped or just completely decided to subordinate themselves consciously for career reasons that promoted Russophobia, that promoted the CIA and the FBI, and that was a concerted attack on progressivism, on progressives and trying to taint a real left-wing agenda.
That's what RussiaGate was.
It wasn't just this attempt to constrain Trump's presidency or bring him down.
It was also a defense of the neoliberals and the hawks who lost to Trump in 2016 and who then weaponized this whole Russia Gate thing to taint any kind of like anti-war sentiment and dissent from neoliberal orthodoxy.
And so these people calling themselves progressives have shown themselves, as we've talked about many times, to be complete dupes for that, to be complete useful idiots, parroting Russia Gate constantly, never admitting fault.
And so now, you know, when I make a joke about Jenk's dumb tweet about Israel, Palestine, I was making a joke.
They take that as me yelling at Jenk.
There's almost too much insanity there for me to respond to.
It's almost like I'm dealing with deranged people.
So I feel kind of maybe even it's like immoral to try to like engage on what they say because they're so unhinged.
But everything they say is a lie.
Everything Anna said in her tweet is a lie.
And that's why when I challenge her, she, of course, can't produce any evidence for it because it's all basically all that is based on things people have said about me on Twitter.
If you look at, for example, my coverage of Russia Gate and also the OPCW cover-up scandal, I've written so many articles, which I worked very hard on.
You'd think, well, all the people who don't like me and who say that I'm wrong, I'm on the wrong side.
You'd think there'd be maybe one article rebutting me in print where you can check sources and look at arguments.
There's nothing.
It's all just smears on Twitter.
So when Anna says I read a lot, I should have asked her to cite one article that substantiates any of her claims.
I won't be able to.
It's just bullshit people say about me on Twitter.
And that's the level these people are, people who call themselves journalists, I guess, are at.
It's such a fucking parody.
Our country is such a parody.
These people actually are allowed to exist in a progressive media space and have some kind of, I don't know.
Like, I guess they must have some audience or something because they're on TV.
But it's comical.
It's really comical.
Well, what's interesting when you say that Jenk just flat out lied.
I mean, honestly, I can't overstate how flummoxed and just jaw-dropping what they did is.
Like, I can't, all his McCarthy smears from the last five years, everything Rachel Maddow has said, all the stuff they said about Julian Assange.
This is just, it goes beyond that.
I mean, the fact that they still have a show after this is just going to be, I know Jenk knows he's lying about you.
And I know Anna knows they're lying because they know that the Syria narrative is a bullshit narrative.
How do I know this?
Because Jenk, well, here's the Syria girl says it's true that both you and Jenk Uger also shed doubt on the State Department's version of the chemical attacks in Syria, both in 2013 and in 2018.
So what's your real issue with Aaron Matei?
So here it is.
Harrison Jenk from 2018, he says, it's incredible how readily the cable news channels have politicians on Pushing the war in Syria with almost no questions asked about how disastrous it might be or the so-called evidence.
They pretend to learn lessons from Iraq, but have actually learned nothing.
So them saying that you took, so let's go to the next one.
Interesting agreement beginning to form between the left and the right online about skepticism on the Syria story.
Meanwhile, the establishment press, as usual, believes the Pentagon without question or evidence.
The push for escalation on TV is overwhelming.
So he was skeptical and rightly so, but now Anna Kasperian pretends like that's not a true skepticism and that you're somehow a nefarious actor who is enjoying and ignoring the slaughter of children because you have the right skepticism.
And in fact, you've proven that the narrative about the gas attacks in Syria is false.
You've proven it.
Go ahead.
Well, that's the thing.
By her standards, as you say, what Jenk does there is disgusting.
Yes.
Is defending in her demented mind the murder of children and possibly might be evidence that he's working directly for dictators.
I think in that same tweet, there also was an example of him sharing an article where they call one of the alleged gas attacks an Israeli false flag.
That's right.
I've never gone that far.
I've never gone that far.
So look, now that this is out there, Anna, if you see this, I'm looking forward to you sitting next to Jenk on your next show, you know, and denouncing Jenk for being disgusting and maybe speculating these being paid by dictators.
By your deranged standards, that is what he does.
I'd love to see that.
And of course, we won't because Anna's a deranged hypocrite with no real moral consistency, with no evidence to back anything up she says.
And what's funny is the difference between, you know, Jenk putting out some tweets and what I do, as you said, is that I've done actual journalism.
And that's the problem here.
It's like there's in this like online media culture where people like this get to consider themselves journalists, there's such a degradation of the journalism profession where, you know, like it's writing an article takes a very long time.
Like doing a video, I have to say, because I do both, doing a video is a lot easier.
You talk, you make some edits.
If you get something wrong, you re-record it.
You know, writing is a long process, and especially if you're doing research and you're being fact-checked.
And so it's like, but there's like the fact that I've done all this reporting on this incredibly important story, the OPCW cover-up, it doesn't enter these people's brains.
It doesn't even occur to them because they're not journalists.
They think that sitting in front of a camera and spouting their dumb opinions counts as journalism.
And I have to wonder, what happened to Jen?
Because that who actually donated, I realized that I gave money to his congressional campaign in 2019.
I actually gave money to his congressional campaign because, like, even though I disagree with him on Russia Gate, I saw sometimes some flashes of like a conscience and some kind of reason.
And I think him voicing skepticism of these chemical allegations is a good example of that.
So what happened to that guy?
How did he go from that to now inventing claims that I'm paid by Russia?
So they, because they just sad.
I feel sorry for him.
They just got so used to doing that over the last five years.
I couldn't stand it that they just would McCarthy smear and red bait every one of their political adversaries and they're doing it now to you.
Anybody, it's just that's their flex.
He's a Russian.
I mean, that looks so ridiculous.
Like, it's like I almost, almost feel sorry for how pathetic and just bonkers nuts.
And no one is watching their show anymore.
They used to have 30,000 live viewers.
They now have maybe 3,000.
It's sad what has happened to them.
Those are two people who know that their company is spitting in a downward spiral and they're lashing out.
And so they're lashing out at you.
They've lashed out at me.
They lashed out at Julian Assange.
People doing real journalism.
So I want to show people here.
Telling the truth here.
But lately, I have to confess that WikiLeaks has not had an astounding record.
Now, he was reporting on Julian Assange, and they were pretending that a bullshit story written by Luke Harding, another person that Aaron Matei has debunked in The Guardian, wrote a story that Paul Manafort had visited Julian Assange three times at the embassy in London, except there's no video of it.
There's no pictures of it.
There's nothing of it.
It was a made-up story.
We reported it that way.
The Young Turks reported it as it was fact.
And by the way, that video is still up.
You can go to the Young Turks channel and put in Julian Assange Paul Manafort.
And that video is still there.
And even after it was completely debunked, they still haven't retracted it or corrected the story.
And here's the more garbage they said.
You know, the way that Assange seems to be backing Donald Trump over and over and over again, it makes me very seriously question Assange's efforts to actually be a journalist and not to be a partisan.
And I get it.
I get why he hates the Democrats.
They're trying to put him in prison.
Okay.
But at the same time.
And now the Republicans are too, and they have been in the past.
But it seems like Assange has picked a side.
And look, it makes me question his reporting.
And so, and so that's the situation we're in now.
So now is he just leaking things that he gets and no matter what, in which case I would respect that?
Or is he selectively leaking based on his political motives?
Now that that suspicion is out there and it's real and it's possible, well, now I'm concerned that he can't be trusted.
That's Jenk Uger saying that another reporter has picked a side.
And that's why you can't trust him.
And by the way, that guy who picked a side has been the most decorated publisher of news in our lifetime and has exposed war crimes left and right.
What the fuck have you?
And by the way, he's right now being prosecuted by the try.
He was trying to be killed by the guy you claim he's siding with.
Even Anna pointed out how crazy that was.
Wait a minute.
Donald Trump's trying to kill him right now too.
Yeah, but he's still siding with him.
You fucking maniac.
It doesn't make any sense.
So, and here he is now doing that to you.
And you tell me he's saying that you're taking money from the Russians.
He's taking $20 million from Clinton donors.
And then they did a $2 million fundraising campaign to hire journalists and they fucking fired them all.
And if they had any, if they had any integrity, they would hire you, Aaron, who right now, I'm talking to you, you're in Syria, right?
Yeah.
So instead of calling Aaron and saying, hey, could you come on our show and inform everybody about what's happening in Syria since you got an award for Russia Gate and we got it 1,000% wrong since you got everything right about Syria?
And could you please inform everybody about the OPCW whistleblower scandal that you've been testifying about in front of the U.S.?
No, in fact, they do the opposite.
And he knows that you're right.
I just showed you that.
He knows that you're right by those tweets.
And he tweeted out a link to a story saying that the gas attack in Syria was an Israeli false flag.
That was Jenk Uger saying that.
So I don't even want to.
So that's all.
I could show you.
I'll play the Roger Waters thing after you're off.
they're in a studio cursing about you through a webcam i think you could all decide who the real reporter is yeah look and let me say jimmy i've been here for uh five or six days and i'm pretty well read on the syria dirty war but i actually wasn't prepared fully just for how sadistic and evil it was.
And I've seen some crazy things.
This country has been left in ruins because of a dirty war that it didn't start.
The U.S. and its allies, some of the most powerful governments in the world, the U.K., Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Qatar, Israel, spent billions and billions of dollars on weapons that they gave to jihadi militias.
Turkey let tens of thousands of people of jihadis from all over the world cross its borders.
People from Uzbekistan, Pakistan, Afghanistan, the Uyghur region in China all came to Syria to wait.
If they had been successful, if the U.S. and its allies had been successful, this society, for all of its problems, would have been ruled by sectarian warlords who kill people for being gay or even for committing adultery, as is actually currently still happening in the province of Idlib, which is controlled by al-Qaeda.
And there was a massive propaganda operation launched at the Western public to drum up support for it, to make it think as if we were on the side of freedom fighters, moderate rebels.
This is all going to be great.
And so many people in our media system, like no other story I've ever seen before, fell for it.
I mean, I have to admit, I was actually duped by some of the propaganda at first, too, until I did some reading on my own and I realized just what a crime this was.
And there's this entire propaganda structure built up around, especially on the Syria issue, where any dissent from the narrative gets to so much derision and hate.
But you note this like the NKS that can't challenge any fact.
So in the case of the OPCW story, it's just one story in the Syria dirty war.
And on this trip here, I've heard so many stories from Syrians who suffered losses of their families, people who were kidnapped by U.S.-backed rebels.
I've seen, I went to someone's house who had a bunker because she lives in Damascus' old city, one of the most precious places in the world, going back to the first century.
And she had a bunker underneath her house and she had to live there for months because the rebels who we were arming were lobbying mortars, dozens of them a day.
And so nobody was safe.
And then in response to that, Syria, Russia, and Iran, but Syria and Russia especially, launched a very brutal bombing campaign.
And I saw the impact of it.
Just like miles and miles of devastation, destroyed homes.
And it's horrible to see.
But ultimately, fault for this whole thing are the people who gave billions of dollars to foreign fighters and some local Syrians to wage a war.
What right do we have to do that?
And it led to destroying what was a stable country, which before the war actually had one of the best health care systems in the entire Middle East.
Healthcare for everybody.
Now leaving it in ruins.
You have the U.S. occupying still a third of Syria, preventing it from accessing its own oil and its own wheat, so keeping it impoverished and cut off from its own resources.
Then you have this al-Qaeda safe haven in the province of Idlib, which is protected by Turkey.
And you have these murderous sanctions imposed by the U.S. under the Caesar Act, totally bipartisan.
The toughest sanctions program, I think, in U.S. history, or one of the toughest, that explicitly targets Syria's reconstruction.
So you have all this rubble here, all these homes that have been destroyed, factories, everything.
And Syria cannot rebuild because the U.S. will sanction you if you're a country that tries to fund reconstruction or if you're a company that engages in a contract to help Syria's reconstruction, the U.S. will sanction you.
So basically, nobody is really in here right now helping Syria rebuild because of these U.S. sanctions.
And imagine making a country just in ruins through a dirty war, which, you know, there's so much evidence for now.
Even Joe Biden admitted to it in a speech he gave that he had to apologize for when he was vice president because he said too much.
But imagine destroying a country, flooding it with foreign fighters and weapons, and then preventing it from rebuilding, which of course only hurts the Syrian civilians.
Like there's no government leaders who are in pain right now.
They're doing fine.
I just wish all these people call themselves journalists who promoted this thing, who whitewashed it, who still are duped by the propaganda, like we saw with the young Turks.
I wish they can come here and see for themselves what they've been cheering on.
And if they did, they would feel like this, like an endless amount of shame because it's so disgusting what was done to this country.
And it's so sad that our media system is so pathetic that people feel the need to advance and would rather put forward career advancement and being accepted by the establishment than reporting the facts about all the suffering we've wreaked on countries like Syria.
It's just unbelievable.
Well, the idea that they won't let Syria rebuild after the war is over.
So the war is supposed to be over and they won't let, like, we let Nazi Germany rebuild after.
That's right.
Right?
You don't not let a country rebuild.
You know what that makes?
That makes for another war.
So, but that's exactly what they want.
And that's why they so they wanted regime change in Syria.
Well, I've got video proof of it as far back as 2006, and I'm sure it goes back farther than that.
I have a CNN host asking Basal al-Ashad saying, hey, they're talking about regime change.
That's in 2006.
So this idea that this was a Arab Spring uprising that caused this, this was all instigated by the CIA and the countries that want to get Basar al-Assad out of there.
And there's many reasons and there's competing reasons why they want that done.
Some people say there's a pipeline.
Some people say it's at the behest of Israel.
Some people say because of Qadr Saudi.
But the point is, it's a nefarious reason why they want to overthrow the duly elected president of another country.
Again, we did it.
We did it in Iraq.
We did it in Libya.
Now we want to do it in Syria.
Okay.
So it's the same story.
And they're not stopping.
And Syria was one of the countries that Wes Clark Sr. said they were out of tobacco after 9-11.
Go ahead, Aaron.
Well, yeah.
I mean, look, it would be kind of like, let's say if you had Occupy Wall Street, right?
And then take Occupy Wall Street, which was a, you know, a Democratic protest calling for some reforms, and then hijacking that into an armed insurgency, arming the most fanatic people all over the world, bringing in Uzbekis and Afghanis And Pakistanis to wage jihad.
That's what it would be like.
Because, you know, because there were protests in 2011 in Syria calling for democratic reforms.
It is a police state.
There were real protests.
But at the same time, there was also a concerted effort by these countries you're talking about, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, the U.S., to support militants who were also attacking police forces.
And the Syrian government responded very harshly.
There was a crackdown.
But look, no matter how they responded, I don't think they could have avoided the turning into a war.
You don't wage a war on civilian protesters.
If you're going to defeat a civilian uprising, you can do it pretty quickly.
It happened all over the Arab Spring.
This was a war where Syria was flooded with sophisticated weapons.
The reason Russia came in on Syria's side was only after the U.S. gave anti-tank missiles, anti-tank missiles, which were just wiping out Syrian soldiers.
And they were winding up in the hands of al-Qaeda.
Most of the anti-tank missiles that the U.S. put into Syria ended up in the hands of Al-Qaeda.
And that is why we now have the province of Idlib controlled by Al-Qaeda, the largest al-Qaeda safe haven since 9-11.
That's thanks to the U.S. And that is what Syria was fighting back against.
Whatever you think about the Syrian government, they have plenty of problems.
There's an entrenched Baast party that goes back decades that there's all kinds of critiques of them that are legit.
But nothing gives us the right to flood this country with weapons to destroy it and leave it in ruins.
And it's like the, it's incredible what a saying that opinion in U.S. media culture, whether it's progressive or mainstream, is considered somehow supporting a dictator.
What it is, it's opposing a dirty war, and it's actually opposing the dictatorship of the U.S., which says that we have the right to destroy your country with our weapons.
And when we lose, we're going to make you suffer with our sanctions.
That's actually our dictatorship that we're imposing on Syria.
And all these dupes who call themselves journalists are the ones marching in lockstep with it.
It's again, it's the equivalent of in the run-up to the Iraq war.
If you debunk the weapons of mass destruction lie, they would say you're pro-Saddam Hussein.
You're an apologist for Saddam Hussein.
No, you're just doing journalism and you're debunking the war lies, the pro-war narrative.
And that's what the young Turks should be doing.
Of course, they never do.
They're always pro-war.
They wanted Trump to bomb Syria more.
Even though Jenker was skeptical of what the hell was going on, he called the bombs that Trump did Nerf bombs and said he should have bombed him more, bombed Syria more.
That was Jenk said.
You know that, right?
He called it Nerf bombs.
I'm not making that up.
It is unbelievably disconcerting to see something like just their flex is just, he's a Russian.
This, he's a rush.
Like, what is this?
1950?
What is going on?
It's just nuts.
Beyond nuts.
And I think they're, well, Aaron, they're donor base.
They're feeling the heat.
And I think that's why they're flailing now.
They're attacking people like you.
They're attacking people like Julian Assange.
Of course, their fans saw through them on Force to Vote.
And I think they see through him on this too.
I think your character is impeccable.
And I think you've won the award for Russia Gate.
And everything you've done on the OPCW leak has also been nobody could challenge it on the facts ever.
And that's why they don't do it, challenge you on the facts.
And that's why they tried to smear you from behind a paywall.
Go ahead.
And they may be failing, but look, on the positive side, the genuine leftist media space is thriving, you know, because people now can see through all this stuff.
After four years of Russia Gate, where people were constantly told, this is it, this is it, this is the big thing.
And they saw all these purportedly progressive people go along with it.
A lot of people have gotten fed up.
And that's why they turn to shows like yours.
And that's why the gray zone has developed a huge audience recently because we're providing something that nobody else is doing.
And not only that, they're not only not doing real adversarial journalism, they're going along with establishment propaganda.
So I kind of wish it wasn't this way because I like getting along with people and I don't want to spend all this time making fun of people and responding to smears.
But look, if that's just how it is, it's how it is.
And it's one day history will be written about this time when it's just such a sad time for media, but also maybe a positive one too, because it really showed who was deeply committed to something, who's committed to doing their job, following the facts, and not trying to be accepted by some imagined establishment comfort zone.
Like Jank talked to, I didn't see that clip until you showed it, but when Jake was like, enjoy your Russian blanket or something like that.
What Jank is actually doing, he's projecting.
He's trying to snuggle himself inside the establishment blanket.
That's exactly thinking that that will bring him some good fun.
But it doesn't.
It's an empty chase because it's all bullshit.
It's phony.
It's phony.
And that's why these people are miserable.
If you meet establishment hacks, they're all miserable people because their entire existence is built on lying all the time.
Well, it's funny.
I went to Jank Uger's Twitter feed to see what, and, you know, he's interviewing people like Randy Weingarten, the head of the teachers union, in a friendly way, instead of exposing her corruption and how she's actually against her own membership and all the bad moves she's made and the corruption she's been involved with by funding private schools with public money, stuff like that.
They didn't do that.
How he brought on the head of the Lincoln Project.
They gave him a sweetheart interview.
That's the kind.
So you're a brown Narotandon.
Same thing.
These are the same.
So it's obvious they've made the shift along with the squad and AOC.
They're really happy to suck up to neoliberals because they need the cash.
And they'll smear you at the drop of a hat.
Instead of hiring people, by the way, the young Turks got $24 million from right-wingers and Clinton donors.
Where's their reporter on the ground in Syria?
Where's their DC fucking reporter?
They have nothing.
They fired all their reporters.
They got $24 million.
They raised another $2 million to hire reporters.
And then they fired all their reporters.
And instead of hiring you or hiring somebody to go to Syria to rebut your report.
Yeah, no, I don't want to work for them.
Sorry.
No.
I'm good.
What I'm saying is instead of hiring someone to go to Syria to rebut, if Aaron's so wrong and it's disgusting what he's doing, why don't you take some of that $26 million, Jank, and hire a reporter and send him to Syria to see what's going.
Why don't you ask Anna Kasperian to go to Syria and so she could follow Aaron around and point out what he's lying about?
Because that'll never happen.
She'll never report on anything, even the Dairy Queen by her house.
She'll never go out of the studio to report on a fucking thing.
And we all know that.
So anyway, Aaron, thanks.
You're doing great work.
Everyone sees it now.
And so just continued success to you at the gray zone and your show pushback and stay safe in Syria.
Anything you want to say before we say goodbye?
Thanks for all the support.
I'll be doing more on my trip to Syria soon.
I have to mentally process everything I've seen.
It's been really crazy.
It's unbelievable here.
And I hope everyone has a chance to come here one day because it's actually, it's a beautiful country.
There's so much.
Today I went to a village that is the last in the world that still speaks Aramaic, the language of Jesus.
And that was a village that was where this historic church that was occupied by Jabbed al-Nusra Al-Qaeda, who stole some of the artifacts from that church and actually held some of the sisters there hostage.
And again, these are the people who, if the like young Turks of the world and the New York Times and everyone, all these people posing as like tough guys who support the quote-unquote Syrian revolution.
If they had been successful, it would have been sectarian fanatics like this who would have won and taken over Syria.
And that it just speaks to the imperial arrogance that underlies our American culture.
And it's just a sickness that we got to get rid of because it's leading, it's leading to misery for people around the world.
And I've seen some of it firsthand, and I just, when I meet people, I'm sorry.
It's unfathomable the suffering that we impose on the world.
And so I'm going to keep documenting it.
And I always appreciate you giving me the opportunity to do so on your show.
Okay, buddy.
Aaron Mate, everybody check out his sub stack.
Everybody check out his work at the Gray Zone.
Thanks, buddy.
Stay safe.
Thanks, Erin.
Hey, Vladimir Putin's on the phone.
Hello.
Hello, Jimmy.
What is up?
How's it going?
I'm excited to be here.
By the way, LinkedIn just notified me that this is your 10-year work anniversary.
Congratulations on being tapped in.
Go-to guy who really understands process.
That must be another Jimmy Doer.
Do not be so modest, Jimmy.
For according to your bio, you're a motivated self-starter who really gets the input.
A real stand-up guy in and out of the office setting who listens for the sweet spot in every idea.
Yeah, that's not me, Vladimir.
Hey, will you endorse my skills?
Jesus.
Jesus.
Please.
This is real.
This is something from LinkedIn.
This is real.
This is how LinkedIn works.
Now, I don't, I don't, I don't do that on.
I don't do that on.
I don't endorse people's skills on LinkedIn.
I don't do that.
No, it's easy.
Just say, Vlad delivers results and knows how to command a well-oiled machine of ruthless efficiency.
And he's a joy to work.
Do it.
You did it for Bobby.
No, I didn't.
Wait.
So you don't think Bobby is a workhorse thought producer?
I don't know, Bobby.
And what about Patrick?
You're telling me his meetings aren't always a blast?
No.
I can't believe you're fucking over Patrick like that.
What about Annie?
What about Annie?
You're saying Annie is not a business-minded rock star who is dedicated, focused, and willing?
I don't know what you're talking about, Vlad.
Fine.
I was going to recommend your video editing skills, but now maybe I won't.
By the way, I'm really looking forward to meeting your president on June 16th.
What's his name again?
Job Joe Biden.
You see right through me, eh, Jimmy?
It's going to be a high-stakes summit amid escalating tensions between Moscow and Washington, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Right?
You're probably wondering what we'll be talking about.
To answer your question, a full range of pressing issues.
Yeah, that doesn't really answer my question.
Okay, sanctions, penalties, expelling diplomats, escalating tensions between two nuclear powers.
The usual.
Oh, and we're going to compare presidential limos.
I'm very excited to announce the new auras starting at only 18 million rubles.
That sounds like a lot.
Well, it comes with free health care.
Then again, everything here comes with free health care.
Get it?
Yeah.
Anywho, it is our plan to use the Aurus to cut Russia's dependence on imported technology.
Hey, how many are you going to produce?
Around 200 tops, but we don't want to get ahead of ourselves.
What does Auris mean in English?
Aurus.
Why?
Well, what...
Which model of the Auris do you have?
I have the one that's bulletproof and the one that's bone proof.
Wait.
Wait, why can't it be both?
Because that costs extra.
Those Aurus guys are weird that way.
Well, how big is it?
Plenty of room.
Fits 12 oligarchs.
14 if you count the trunk.
And weighing in at 20,000 pounds, it gets two miles to the refinery.
But in traffic, it's not so good.
You've really got to watch the gauge.
Does the new Auris have any special features?
Of course.
Like Joe Biden's limo, we have the protection of a secure supply of oxygen in case we have to drive through Pasadena.
And every Orus is equipped with Kevlar-line tires to protect against punctures from Hunter Biden's teeth.
But selling point for me was no Aurus automatically takes top off near River.
So you can't beat that, really.
The Secret Service calls Joe Biden's presidential limo the beast.
What nickname do you have for your limo?
The Liz Cheney.
All right, Vlad, thanks for calling.
Are you sure there wasn't anything more important you want to talk about today?
No, things are way too depressing.
I'm fine with doing stupid car jokes this week.
Next time, maybe we will talk nuclear war and skin falling on faces, okay?
Oh, it sounds great to me, buddy.
It's a plan, Stan.
Have a good one and say hi to your special lady for me.
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The Young Turks have gotten so bad that legendary Pink Floyd band member Roger Waters has had enough.
So he saw, well, let me, I guess I'll show you this and then I'll show you.
Here's what the Young Turk said about Aaron Mate, who's on the ground in Syria.
Here's the kind of so he's the Aaron Mate has debunked the Syrian narrative about the gas attacks.
This show is also right there, shoulder to shoulder with him on this.
And he's testified in front of the UN and he's debunked this thoroughly.
There's been two OPCW whistleblowers who showed you that those chemical attacks were bogus.
So here's what the young Turk said about Aaron Mate.
Remember, he's the Izzy Award-winning, he won the Izzy Award, the IF Stone Izzy Award for Independent Journalism for his meticulous debunking of Russia Gate.
And so now you know why they probably ate him.
I don't know what to say.
They said Aaron Mate yelled at me.
Oh, Aaron Mate lied.
Oh, Aaron Mate.
Everyone cares what Aaron Mate has to say, right?
The guy who denies that Syrian children were killed with chemical attacks.
Yeah, fuck Aaron Mate.
Yeah, fuck you.
Anyway, let's move on.
Let's end the freaking pot.
I can't.
I can't.
Okay, see, that's what happened.
I can't stand that guy.
And I can't stand the very intentional disinformation they put out there in regard to disgusting dictators around the world.
The very people they seem to be working for, to be quite honest with you.
Let's move on.
All right, we're done.
Disgusting.
Absolutely disgusting.
If Aaron Mate feels really warm in his Russian blanket, he's like, oh, but the Russian government favors me.
He should be super proud of that.
Way to go, Aaron.
You did it.
Okay.
Yeah, I think by the way, fuck you.
Anyway, let's move on.
Let's end the freaking pot.
So I'm here with the world famous comedian and protest song singer Ron Placone is with us all the way from San Pedro, California.
Hi, Ron.
Hello, Jimmy.
And to everyone, you know what?
Fuck you.
That's right.
This is my middle finger.
Fuck you.
Who was on here before me?
Aaron Matei, Mr. O, I should go to a place to investigate it.
That's journalism.
Ooh, whoop-de-woo.
Hey, I'm a journalist.
I shouldn't accept everything the intelligence agencies say uncritically.
How's your Kremlin blanket?
How is it?
Jimmy, end the podcast.
So Roger Waters, Roger Waters, legendary member of the legendary Pink Floyd's Legends.
He saw that and he was asked about it.
And here's what he said.
Fucking stupid fat prick.
And just as long as they're throwing the F-word around.
I mean, and that woman, I haven't the faintest idea who she is, but she obviously can't read or write.
All you have to do is a little bit of research to understand that all the research that has gone into the OPCW debuck and the huge story that is the OPCW, sorry.
And the huge story that lies behind that that has been completely ignored by the mainstream media because it's inconvenient.
When you actually look at the work that Aaron Mate, for a start, but Grey Zone in general do in trying to bring us, we the people, the truth about what's actually going on in our world, to listen to that garbage and disgusting and foul-mouthed, I have to say.
That young lady.
Well, I hesitate to call her a young lady because she's not.
She's clearly not in the prime of youth.
But that's neither here nor there.
But the fact is, how dare she pontificate on some tinpole fucking show like the fabulous young Turks or whatever they call themselves.
Well, who the fuck are they?
I mean, to claim that she knows that Bashar Saad made a chemical attack to kill his own children or the children of his people is beyond condemnable.
Is that a word?
I think so.
Yes.
I shouldn't really be expending any breath on it because it's so pitiful and pathetic.
I am not going to waste my barrow on whatever the young fucks are because that was disgusting.
Yeah.
And I've heard bad things about them for a long time, but they purport to be thinking young people who have an alternative.
They're not.
Yeah, that's the status quo bolstering what the great American empire believes.
And obviously they're great supporters of regime change in Syria.
There you go.
So there's boy, what is it?
What do you think when you consider yourself to be an alternative news show and you're pushing the CIA narrative, a pro-war narrative in Syria, and a rock and roll legend has to call you out?
Wow.
I wonder if that's what Jenkins thought was going to happen when they got up to go to work.
Hey, I wonder if a legendary rock band is going to call me out for my pro-war propaganda while I'm smearing an anti-war journalist who's actually on the ground in Syria.
Wow.
That's why people have testimonials on their website for like their shows or their musician or whatever.
This could now be one of theirs.
It could just be, who the fuck are they?
Roger Waters.
The young fucks.
Roger Waters.
Wow.
They claim to be none of that.
They're none of that.
They have the status quo.
And that's what the Young Turks are.
They're the status quo.
And if you are an actual progressive journalist, they're going to smear you.
They smeared me.
They smeared Julian Assange.
They smeared Aaron Mate.
I don't watch their show regularly, so I don't know who else they're smearing, but I'm sure they've had bad things to say about Gorant Glenn Greenwald.
I know that for sure.
Anybody doing good work, they're going to smear because that's what the Young Turks are.
And they're not journalists.
They're not journalists.
They don't do journalism.
Just so you know, Anna Kasparian teaches a class.
No kidding.
At what the what college is it?
I thought it was Northridge.
Northridge?
Yeah.
Maybe Aaron Mate should sign up for it.
Yeah.
He's in Syria right now doing journalism.
He's kind of busy.
Maybe when he comes back from Syria, he could get into a journalism class taught by Anna Kasparian.
Jesus Christ.
Bernie Sanders has called me.
Hello.
I have had it.
Hasn't this country Reached its limit yet at long last.
When will we as a people stop this madness?
When will we finally say enough is enough to this outrage?
What's this about, Bernie?
Gaza, climate change?
Stop bugging me about my hotel rooms already.
For peace's sake, I like it 60 degrees for two reasons.
Number one, I come from fucking Vermont where 60 degrees is unusually hot.
And number two, shut up.
Hey, Bernie, I really don't care how you like your hotel rooms.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I see what you did there.
You're disarming me with agreement while trying to outflank me on the left with one of your pet peeves.
Well, bring it on, podcast clown.
I welcome your whatever it is you're doing.
But 60 degrees does seem pretty cold even during the winter.
You live in Los Angeles.
What do you know from winter?
The only white flakes you guys see in the sky come from forest fires.
I know.
Then stop bugging me about my hotel room that's always got to be 60 degrees already, for God's sake.
Talk to me about something important.
Well, why can't you transfer your passion for frigid hotel rooms into stopping what's happening in Gaza?
Because it's only a holiday in Express, goddammit.
And I don't think it's too much to ask someone to unlock the son of a bitch thermostat and turn it down to where most plants can't bloom.
Next question.
Why won't you use the word apartheid to describe Israel's treatment of the Palestinians, Bernie?
Because I think we should turn down the thermostat.
And by tone down, I mean tone down the rhetoric.
And by that, I mean, and allow me to finish, when you have 70% unemployed in Gaza, when you aren't allowed to leave a fenced area, when people have no hospitals or clean water, and when they are routinely short, maimed, and taken away by soldiers, I think apartheid might be too harsh of a way to describe it.
Hey, you know, there's a lot more to that phone call, but we don't have time in today's podcast.
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