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Get ready for an outstanding entertainment program, the Jimmy Dore Show.
Wow, renowned linguist, historian, and cognitive scientist Noam Chomsky's on the line.
Noam, were you at all surprised by what took place in the Capitol on January 6th?
And in the wake of the recent violent events at our nation's capital, many are asking to what extent the malevolent figure in charge deserve full credit for his talent in tapping the poisonous streams that run not far below the surface of American society.
Or was it in no small part a consequence of the neoliberal assault since Reagan amplified by his democratic successors that devastated the Rust Belt and rural areas that are the homes of many who stormed the Capitol?
Yeah, very interesting, Noam.
So you're saying that the roots of Trumpism lie deep within the last 40 years of austerity politics when $50 trillion was systematically transferred from the working class to the wealthy power centers?
Hey, have you seen my zigzags?
I'm sorry.
Your zigzags?
You mean your rolling papers?
No, I haven't.
Are you certain of this, Jimmy?
Yes.
I don't even know how to use rolling papers.
You never know what you'll want to roll up, Jimmy.
Ask me what my favorite day of the week is.
Oh, God.
I don't know.
What's your favorite day of the week, Noam?
Weeds Day.
Now ask me why Weeds Day is my favorite day of the week.
Why is Weeds Day?
I don't want to ask you that.
Do it.
All right.
Why is Weeds Day your favorite day of the week?
Because it's got the word weed in it.
Weeds Day.
It's like the name of the week only refers to weed.
I exploited the ambiguities derived from the figurative language to produce an amusing variant hybrid that is neither solely a pun nor a malapropism.
Weeds Day.
Jesus Christ.
This would be so awesome if it was real.
I don't want to talk about weed right now, Noam.
Can we just stick to the politics, please?
I'm sorry, of course.
This is your venue, and you have every right to set the parameters.
But first, ask me what my favorite kind of potato is.
No, I'm not going to do that.
Baked.
Are you sure you don't have zigs at your place?
Because now I can't find my lighter again.
And you're just the kind of guy who likes to bogart a good blunt, pocket the papers, and then split for a private clam bake.
Not cool.
This is my new favorite character.
Noam, not that I disapprove.
Jesus Christ.
Noam, not that I disapprove, but maybe this isn't the right for your image.
And maybe you should turn down the music so you can see better.
Noam, you should be more careful.
In this country, you can still go to jail for weed.
Wait, jail sells weed.
That's totally off the vape chart.
No, Noam.
Now, you've written over 150 books on linguistics, politics, and history.
What's your advice to the left under a Joe Biden presidency?
I recommend reading my new book, Manufacturing Concentrated Since Immilla.
The reviews are already in, and it's totally bongorrific.
I have to split now, Jimmy.
Ring me up when you find my lighter.
Tokyo.
Jesus.
That Chomsky is a pothead.
It's one of the funniest.
Establishment media sets of Augusting this world.
Watch and see as a jack dog comedian who speeds and jumps the medium and hits him head-on.
It's the Jimmy Door show.
Our first guest, he's one of the foremost journalists of this era.
He has won the Pulitzer Prize, the I.F. Stone Izzy Award, and the George Polk Award.
And he founded the Hope Shelter for Rescued Dogs.
He recently resigned over censorship from the online news publication, The Intercept, an organization which he founded.
You can now read his writings at greenwall.substack.com.
Please welcome Glenn Greenwald.
Hey, Glenn.
Hello, James.
I'm super excited to be here, especially because I've been planning for a long time to acknowledge that I too.
I'm a member of the Boogal Boys.
I'm not the person you would expect, but I feel like I found a place where I can be myself.
Thanks, Mike.
Call me to me again.
Thank you.
So whatever questions you might have about who we are and what we believe, I'm fully open to those.
He straight faces it.
He straight faces it.
Now, so are you, are you, are you anti-LGBTQ?
No, that's the thing is a lot of us are very progressive.
We don't care what people do in their bedroom or who they are.
That's not what we're about.
I think there's a lot of misconceptions about us in the media.
So I want to clarify those for people.
I appreciate that, Boogaloo Boy.
That's very nice.
I love when people call me that.
Well, that used to be my safe word.
I used to, my first safe word was lose the watch, but then it went to Boogaloo Boy and shuts down the scene.
All right, let's talk about some real stuff.
This is fun.
We should do a comedy podcast.
I want to just bring up this crazy thing that happened with you in the New York Times.
Is that okay if we talk about that?
Sure.
So here, Lauren Wolf tweeted this out.
Now, she was an editor at the New York Times, and she says, Biden landing at Joint Base Andrews.
Now, I have chills, which that's a weird thing.
So you then tweeted out, you said, if you're in the national press and will be on TV at any point today and being to feel the need to weep joyously, just hold it until you find a private place.
Nobody is expecting any adversarial coverage over the next four years, but it's just a matter of personal dignity.
So that was a very impactful tweet, apparently.
That did a lot because Yashir Ali tweeted out, Lauren Wolf, who was the editor on contract for New York Times, has had her contract canceled after she tweeted what's on the left.
She also tweeted what's on the right, but deleted it when she learned Biden chose to take his own plane.
So what she tweeted was the pettiness of the Trump administration not sending a military plane to bring him to DC as a tradition is mortifying, childish.
So what actually happened was Joe Biden decided to take his own plane and it had nothing to do with Trump.
And so they were then, they then started to blame Glenn Greenwald, you, for her firing, because you noticed that ridiculous tweet she sent out.
And Katie Helper says, I can't believe Glenn Greenwald flew from Brazil to the United States, went into the New York Times building, held a gun to the editor-in-chief's head, and demanded the firing of Lauren Wolfs on Putin's orders for the most basic resistance lib tweet of all time.
So, Glenn, what was your response to that episode?
Well, it was so weird because in Brazil, I'm two hours ahead of the East Coast.
So I go to sleep often before people in the U.S. go to sleep, and then I wake up earlier.
So I had no idea that any of this happened the night before.
And I woke up the next morning and there were like dozens of furious emails in my email inbox from liberals saying, fuck you, you got Lauren Wolf fired.
What about Lauren Wolf?
And I honestly, I read through them all and I was like, who the fuck is Lauren Wolf?
I don't know who Warren Wolf is.
I had no idea what they were talking about.
There must be some thing going on on Twitter that like misattributed something to me.
So I like had to go Google her and there was like nothing about her.
And I was like, who's this?
So then I went on to Twitter.
I was like, maybe I can find something there.
I mean, there were like dozens of emails.
I figured it had to be something.
So I then went on Twitter and I was like, saw all these people up and water.
I saw my fucking name trending because they were blaming me for getting this woman fired who I don't even know.
I've never, I post one tweet about her that was like light mockery.
Because yes, if you are an editor with the New York Times, you should not be talking about the newly elected president like he's your favorite member of a boy band and you're like super excited that he threw his t-shirt at you during a concert.
Like that just is a source of like very light mockery.
I didn't fucking go on a crusade against her.
I didn't posted one tweet.
And the idea, Jimmy, that the people at the New York Times, who I promise you, all hate my fucking guts and have for many years for so many different reasons, take marching orders from my Twitter feed.
Like, oh my God, Glenn Greenwald's upset with one of our editors.
We need to get rid of her ASAP.
Like if I had that power, like 95% of the people at the New York Times out there this morning.
So it was just one of those things that like a Twitter mob created this narrative that was so fucking lunatic.
It was just pure lunacy.
And the whole, beyond like the ridiculousness of the idea that it was my fault, none of it was true.
Like she didn't work for the New York Times.
She didn't have a contract for the New York Times.
She was just like an occasional informal editor who they occasionally called when they needed somebody.
You can't fire somebody like that.
You can't terminate a contract with somebody with whom you don't have a contract.
And they, according to them, have been upset with her for a long time about many, many different things.
It wasn't even about this week.
So the whole thing was based on an imaginary set of events.
But I mean, if somebody wants to put that power in my hand to have whatever corporate media journalists fire, that I just want fired with a single tweet, I'll happily accept that.
I just don't think I actually wield that power.
I would have to challenge the veracity of that statement.
I think you do have that kind of power.
I think we all know it.
And you're just lying.
Don't lie.
You know, the other amazing thing is about it is that, you know, there's, you can find so many tweets like that at CNN and NBC.
I've been mocking all of them whenever I see them because they're, I mean, the most embarrassing one was that Brian Stelter, who like keeps the media in check with his like audacious adversarial media reporting, 48 hours after Jen Sackey is like installed as the new White House press secretary, a job that exists for no reason other than to like manipulate and deceive and lie to the media.
She like came out with one statement on the very first day when they gave her some softball questions.
Like, are you going to, is it your job to lie to us or to inform the public?
And she's like, no, my job is to inform the public.
A very shocking answer, like that no one expected her to give.
And Brian Stelter on his show like put a huge graphic on the screen that said, press secretary says her job is to tell the truth.
And then in parentheses, he wrote, how refreshing, close parentheses.
So I mock that.
I presume CNN executives are meeting now to determine when to fire Brian Stelter in light of the fact that I didn't like that either.
But it is just such a humiliating posture that the media has adopted so quickly at the beginning of this administration.
They're not even hiding it.
That's what I meant by no one expects you to do real reporting, but at least like carry out the pretense a little bit.
Yeah, I hear you.
Before we go on, I just have a technical thing.
It doesn't sound like you're talking through your microphone.
Could you check your settings and make sure it's coming through your microphone?
Can you tell some jokes while I'm doing that?
Yes.
I had gained a lot of weight right before COVID, and I was trying to figure out a way to lose weight.
And people are like, hey, you know, if you have sex, that's a good way to lose weight, burn calories.
So I did, and it didn't work.
And then they told me, no, Jim, if you have sex with another person.
And I was like, okay, I'll try that.
And still, still know.
That was a joke.
All right.
I'm sure your audience is very happy to know that we can stop that now because I think I fixed my problem.
Oh, you did.
I think you did fix your problem.
Nice.
Thank you very much.
But could you take care of your microphone now?
Come on.
All right.
Now, ever since the hysteria over Russia gate, there's been a culture developing that calls for internet censorship.
And we saw figures on the left calling for censorship, pleading for the unaccountable authority of faceless Silicon Valley employees to protect us from our own thoughts and the thoughts of others.
And now the left is being suppressed on Facebook and other platforms.
What is going to take, what is it going to take, Glenn, for the left to understand that we can't let Silicon Valley pick and choose who gets free speech or not?
I don't know.
I mean, I wish I knew the answer to that.
I was just actually watching, I really recommend it, an interview that Joe Rogan did, I think, a week ago or so with Ira Glasser, who used to be the head of the ACLU when the ACLU is really the ACLU from 1978 until 2000 and one.
He retired shortly before the 9-11 attacks.
And, you know, the first crisis he had to deal with was when the ACLU was representing actual neo-Nazis, not the people who get called neo-Nazis now, like Republicans or Jimmy Doerr, but like people with actual swastikas like on their arms, the ACLU represented the right that they had to march through the streets of Skokie, Illinois in 1977, a town filled with Holocaust survivors.
And he explains that he thinks it's utterly insane that the left has become the primary advocates of corporate and state censorship.
And he was talking about, and there's a film actually that's fantastic, a documentary of his life that was just released in the last year, Mighty Ira.
I actually interviewed him too.
And he was saying how when he was representing Nazis and defending the right of white supremacists and the KKK to speak, his primary allies in that fight were civil rights leaders, African-American preachers who knew that if the state got the right to censor and they did it in the first instance against some crazy right-wing fanatic, they would turn around and use it against Malcolm X. That would be the next target.
So obvious.
And what amazes me about the left is if you say to the left, what do you think of Facebook and Google and Amazon?
They'll say, oh, those are fascist, autocratic, repressive, oligarchical companies, which they are.
And then you say, what do you think of the government, the federal government?
Oh, they're neoliberals.
You can't trust the FBI.
What about the federal court system?
Oh, they're all right-wing assholes appointed by George Bush and Dick Cheney and Donald Trump.
All true.
And then you say to them, Do you want to give the power to those corporations and/or the state and/or the courts to determine who can and can't be heard on the internet?
I'll be like, Yes, absolutely.
They can't fucking put these propositions together that they're empowering the very institutions that they regard in every other instance as odious and pernicious.
And I think what's really going on, Jimmy, this whole thing with like GameStop, I think is really revealing something interesting because to me, it's one of the most serious threats to Wall Street hegemony in years.
It's not going to take down Wall Street.
I don't want to overstate it, but it has really fucked with their model.
It has caused serious panic.
They don't know what to do.
They've taken all kinds of steps and said all sorts of things that they don't like to do or say because it pulls the mask down.
It shows how much they cheat.
They're panicked over what's going on.
And it is so interesting to me that you have this huge institutional left, really well-funded, major media outlets like the Young Turks and this whole Justice Democrats industry founded by foundations, these activist groups.
And now you have all these elected officials in Congress and state houses, all part of the left.
And this huge blow against Wall Street had nothing to do with them.
They weren't a participant in it in any way.
It came from these like 4chan trolls who, to the extent they have politics at all, sure as hell has nothing to do with liberal cultural pieties or even left-wing political orthodoxies.
They're just like angry at the system and they want to fuck with it and burn it down.
And you have the left who doesn't know how to confront real power centers.
They don't want to confront the CIA or the Pentagon or Wall Street or Silicon Valley.
So they content themselves with like symbolic gestures about pulling down statutes from the Capitol or going on crusades about gender pronouns or censorship that actually is being carried out by corporations and will eventually be turned against them.
Because it's or we're pretending like the Boogaloo Boys or the Proud Boys are the real fascist threat in the United States and not some clownish joke sideshow that real power senators hate just as they do.
do.
This huge institutional left has almost no ability to put fear in the heart of ruling class elite.
And I think it's so interesting that this real threat to Wall Street is coming from a group of people who most certainly don't identify with that left at all.
Yes, we're going to get into that more.
It's amazing what's happening.
It's the, as George Carlin said, the system is rigged, the game is up, and everybody sees it now.
But I wanted to be focused.
We have so much to talk about, but I wanted to get your thoughts on something because in recent weeks, the online left has been fixating on me and half the attention is animated by bad, well, I would say 90% of it is animated by bad faith actors, but there's something else going on.
The obsession with me, I think, Glenn, shows the directionless the left is in right now.
There's no larger political project for people to organize around, and there's no leadership coming from figures like Bernie Sanders or AOC or the squad.
None.
There's nothing that they have us focused on to work towards right now.
Nothing except censoring our political opponents.
And there's still lingering resentment against me for my forced the vote strategy, not because of the merits of it, but because it exposed progressives in power that they won't challenge the Democratic Party leadership.
And the people who we elected and thought would be an insurgents force just turned into loyal Democrats.
It turns out the Justice Democrats are just Democrats.
So do you believe that the left will simply turn into the Democratic Party apologists during the entire Biden era?
Yes, yes, I do.
So first of all, this obsession with you, I don't mean with your strategy, but with you, you personally.
There's like an entire, I mean, I think that like they're going to create a Pulitzer Prize soon called Pulitzer Prize for Excellence and Commentary on James Doerr.
It's like the entire fucking industry.
Like a third of the left media talks about you personally, constantly all the time.
It reminds me a lot, you know, in 2010, 2011, 2012, when WikiLeaks pioneered this really groundbreaking model of how secrets of the most powerful entities on the planet can be leaked and published.
It found a major vulnerability in actual power.
It was incredibly innovating and inspiring and exciting and important.
And within a short period of time, all anyone wanted to talk about was that Julian Assange was an asshole, that he had like an abrasive personality.
As though like the issue was, do you want to date him?
And it just became like, no, that guy's a jerk.
Who gives a fuck?
Yeah, he is a jerk.
Julian's a jerk in like a lot of ways.
And like a lot of ways that I can be, you're definitely an asshole.
Like these things are not in dispute, but they're also totally irrelevant, right?
They're completely irrelevant.
The reason that you're effective is the same reason that they consider you an asshole because you raise your voice.
You care about things.
You want to be heard.
You think that somebody could have done what Julian did, which is fuck so hard with the CIA and the military industrial complex and the most powerful corporations on earth if he was just like a nice guy who kind of was just like a retiring personality?
No, they're inextricably linked.
But this is what I was saying just a minute ago in that last answer was if you're on the left and you have two choices.
One is to try and think about how to fuck with Wall Street like that Reddit group just did, or to blow holes open in the walls of the NSA or the CIA like Edward Snowden and Julian Assange did.
Or try and take down the monopoly power of Silicon Valley, like a lot of hardworking people are doing who care about those issues, including your good friend Matt Stoller.
That's one way you can go.
That's a lot of work.
It's a lot of risk.
It's very difficult to figure out how to do that.
Or you can just like devote yourself to like internet gossip and bullshit chatter and like trivial personality disputes.
That is super easy.
And it's also profitable.
People love to like hate.
You stimulate hatred.
Fuck Jimmy Dora.
Fuck Jimmy Doran.
Look what he said.
He put this guy on his show.
What does that have to do with politics?
You claim that you're interested in the working class.
You claim you're interested in people's lack of healthcare coverage, in people's inability to get jobs.
They have to live at home.
Their communities are ravaged by joblessness and opium.
And you're talking about Jimmy fucking Doran, whether or not he's a good guy or whether or not you like him instead of the strategy that he pioneered that caused a huge debate about how to bring.
If you're doing that, you are absolute and complete and total coward and a fraud.
You're doing that because you need to fill your YouTube shows and your columns and your Twitter feed with content that keeps people interested, but like you're stimulating the most primitive, primal emotions of people that are totally easy to stimulate, but that are completely meaningless.
You know that you have the no ability to do real activism, to put real fear into the hearts of actual ruling class elites.
And I find it so revealing.
It doesn't mean that every one of their critiques of you is false.
I just don't give a shit.
I don't give a shit what about your personality.
I don't want to debate that with you.
I'm more interested in what you can contribute to these political aims, these political goals, the things that we're all claiming we're about, but they're not about that, Jimmy.
They don't have any ability to do it.
Now, the other thing about it is that I just want to quickly comment on.
You tell me, you tell me, what is the difference between that left and the Nancy Pelosi-led, Chuck Schumer-led Democratic Party?
I want to know what the difference is.
I don't see any fucking differences.
And they know that there's no differences.
They spent the last year of their lives marching behind Bernie Sanders, who was in turn was marching behind Joe Biden and Kamala Harris.
And you know what's going to happen in about two to three weeks?
Bernie Sanders is going to shepherd the nomination through his committee, the budget committee, of a woman who has spent the last five years calling him and his followers continuously in the most bad faith way, racist and misogynist and bigot.
He's going to say, my friend Nira Tandon, this is not a time for past grievances.
We have too much work to do.
I'm really proud to call you my friend.
I think you're going to do a great job.
He's going to be the most cocked motherfucker, even more so than he already is, in the entire universe.
And it's just going to show those people even more that all you are warriors for the Democratic Party.
Let me just give you one example.
This week has been like the most amazing week of having the left and the right unite against Wall Street.
Almost everybody across the spectrum supports what those Redditors are doing and is thrilled to see these hedge fund leeches suffering.
And it has blown, it's created a major opportunity to regulate, to legislate, to reform.
And Ted Cruz, whatever you think of him, reached out by saying, I agree with AOC about this.
So that was an opportunity for right and left to join together to do something that supposedly her main reason for existing as a political figure, which is fighting income inequality.
And instead, she goes, turns around and says, fuck you.
I don't want to work with you.
You got me murdered.
You're a white supremacist.
And suddenly the two camps divide again.
And over here, you have the red team.
And over here, you have the blue team cheering like morons at a fucking high school football game again because she ruined that movement because all she wants to do is attack Republicans and fortify the Democratic Party.
That is what the left has become and they know it.
And that's why all that's left for them to do is do things like talk about your personality and occasionally mine.
It is stunning to see AOC turn into Adam Schiff.
It is stunning to me to see her just totally focus all her ire.
And it started for me at the CARES Act.
So last March, when she blamed the Republicans for the CARES Act instead of her own leadership who had just negotiated that bill.
And so she, when everybody was making a big deal, how she flapped her arms, but she was only flapping her arms and pointing her finger at the Republicans.
And now here we are again.
And when she's supposed to, we elected her to oppose Nancy Pelosi, she won't do it.
And now when the time comes to actually stick it to Wall Street, she says no.
And instead of doing that, she'd rather prop up in a most disingenuous way the Democratic Party.
So she's there.
The reason why she wouldn't, they wouldn't do force to vote was because it would have been injurious to the Democrats in the House who were against Medicare for all and would vote against it.
So Nancy Pelosi said you can't do it.
So they didn't.
And so it's just stunning to me to see what is just manifest to everybody.
And then, and it's, it's, it's, I've said this for years, Glenn.
The United States is a country of adult children of alcoholic.
They go, they don't get mad at the person screwing you, right?
Like the Justice Democrats who aren't doing what they said they would do and oppose Nancy Pelosi to get anything.
They're not mad at that.
They get mad at the person who points out that they're not doing what they said they would.
And that's what adult children of alcoholics do.
I know that very well.
So that's the situation we're left in.
And it's just amazing that I could become some kind of literally I'm fucking a comedian in my garage in Pasadena.
And it just goes to show you the bankruptness of those elected officials, the Justice Democrats, AOC, all of them, that I could have this kind of impact is because they are completely selling out their own campaigns, their own campaign workers, and everybody on the left.
Go ahead, say whatever you want.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, the person who should have been leading that campaign was not Jimmy Dorrit.
It should have been AOC.
As you said, the reason it ended up being you is because it wasn't them.
It should have been Justice Democrats.
It should have been DSA.
None of them do it because they're just soldiers of the Democratic Party.
Look, I think, you know, if you think about the excitement that came from AOC's election, let's remember she did not unseat a Republican incumbent.
She unseated a Democratic incumbent, a Democratic company who was extremely loyal to the Democratic, who was one of Nancy Pelosi's favorite members of Congress, who would have been saying all the same stuff that she's saying now about the Republican insurrection, about white supremacy.
Every last word that she utters would have come out of the mouth of Joe Crawley with complete comfort, except to the extent that he really didn't speak much.
He just did, you know, exercise his power in back rooms.
But he would have been totally comfortable with all of her messaging.
So the thing that amazed me was they humiliated AOC about a month ago, notwithstanding what a good soldier she is.
They hate her.
They hate her so much.
They hate the fact that she like talks about primary challenges against them without like actually confronting them to their face.
I've heard members of Congress talk about her and they really don't like her, the Democratic members.
And they humiliated her.
She wanted to be on this committee, this very powerful committee.
The House leadership refused to back Her for it.
They put her against another member from New York, one who is a known right-wing Democrat, who opposed Nancy Pelosi from the right in 2018 when AOC was the good soldier and voted for her.
And they chose that right-wing anti-Pelosi member over AOC by a vote of like 45 to 12.
They just booted her ass right off that fucking committee.
Said, like, we don't fucking, we're not putting you on this committee.
Fuck you.
And like, they talked and they said, like, I'm going to vote for the member who's actually loyal to the Democratic Party and who, you know, doesn't talk about primary challenges.
So I thought, okay, the next day, she's going to wake up and she's going to be like, you know what?
I remember the Democratic Party hates me and I'm here to like battle with them, not just to like fucking talk about Ted Cruz.
Any Democrat could do that.
And she just started tweeting, which is where she lives on Twitter.
And it was like, it never happened.
I don't think she once mentioned it.
Never mind.
She just like went right back to like, the Republicans are terrible.
It's like they just fucking spit right in your face, the Democratic Party did.
And you're going to go back to work for them, like messaging, not even like a half of a day, like protesting what was just done to you.
She go, you go check her Twitter feed.
Somebody go do this and let me know how many of her tweets or interviews contain a word that could not have come out of Joe Crawley's mouth or Chuck Schumer's or Nancy Pelosi.
What is it that she's saying?
The only thing she does is like occasionally escalate her rhetoric about Republicans.
She's like, oh, you're fascists, you're Nazis.
She like use the words that like that's zero.
That's nothing.
That's just being an extra Democrat.
That's right.
That's right.
And can I just make one more point, Jimmy?
Can I just make one more point?
No.
Yes, I have to.
Yeah, shut up, Jimmy.
I wasn't really asking.
Here's the thing.
I do want to say one thing.
Like, I do believe that AOC was genuinely rattled by what happened at the Capitol.
She's been, she is the target of right-wing media in a pretty demonizing way.
I'm sure it was like unsettling to have these mobs running through the Capitol.
You have no idea if they're on what their intentions are.
I'm sure that was scary.
She made it through completely unscathed, not even a tiny little bruise on her body.
Every other member of Congress in the Democratic caucus, including Ilian Omar and Rashida Tlaib and others, are equally demonized and they're fucking over it.
They got over it.
If you want to be a member of Congress, you can't constantly center your own like lived experiences.
You're not there to like center yourself in every drama.
If you have an opportunity to strike a blow against Wall Street and the massive inequality and suffering that it causes, you don't have the right to refuse to do that because you're like angry and irritated by one of your colleagues.
That's not what you're there for.
That's like what high school is for.
So I do want to just note, I believe that she was like genuinely alarmed by what happened, but it's time for her to move past that.
I agree.
It's like she's like she's being hyperbolic around this issue to cover for her failure of force to vote.
She wants so desperately to change the subject, and I think she has.
And her enablers in the media at the intercept will help her change the subject and will also help her change this and change the subject to be about my personality and my choice of swear words instead of them actually abandoning people and kill literally killing them for by not giving them health care.
So when the government denies people health care, that's the effect of killing them.
And if you're not even going to fight for it, again, everything AOC ever said in her life, I used against her.
It wasn't my words.
It was hers.
If you're not seen fighting for something, no wonder half the country doesn't vote.
She said all that stuff.
So I was also stunned that when she went on the intercepted podcast with Jeremy Scahill to talk about this, it was obviously set up to do a softball.
He didn't know how to do a follow-up question.
Did they not teach people how to do follow-up questions when you were at the intercept?
Or is that again?
Is that against the rules?
I mean, look, Jeremy's a great journalist.
He really is.
You know, like, there's no degrading Jeremy's journalism.
He's been all over the world, like, covering wars.
I can degrade that interview.
I can degrade that interview.
And betting with the military, but like going to the places that are super dangerous to tell the real story about what he was doing.
So I give him a huge pass in what he does.
That said, people on the left haven't had much to cheer about in a long time watching American politics.
They lived through Clintons.
They lived through Bush and Cheney.
They lived through Obama and the neoliberal nightmare that that was.
And then Donald Trump.
And so when AOC and this kind of seemingly left-wing wing of the Democratic Party arose and she became this huge thing, I understand that people place their hopes in them.
I genuinely get that.
I think it's valid and legitimate for you to want to find hope and optimism in like the political system that you cover.
But at some point, I'm not talking about Jeremy here.
I'm talking about just journalists generally who like the squad, who like AOC.
You have to still realize that they are politicians subject to all of the same political forces that every other politician is, and that your role can't be to cheerlead for them or engage in activism for them or be their spokesperson.
If you want to go do that, go work for them as their spokesperson.
If you're supportive of that political cause that they said that they were there to fight for, you have an extra obligation to push them and to treat them with a critical distance.
That's the only way that they're going to do the things that are hard to do is if they're being pushed instead of constantly showered with adoration over nothing.
Yeah, and it's sad that I know that and that some kind of award-winning journalist like Jeremy Scahill doesn't know that.
That's that's well, of course, he does and he chose to do that on purpose, which is disgusting.
So, um, and an asshole like me can do a better job on force to vote than guys like that.
Then that's how that's that's what's wrong with America.
That's why America is broken.
That's because we have nothing.
We have no real journalism happening in America.
It's all access journalism and it's all in defense of the establishment.
And that's why you left the intercept.
And that's what I just experienced.
So it was disgusting.
So, and honest, I like to have heroes in journalism.
You and Chris Hedges are about the last ones.
That's about it.
That are consistent.
All I'm asking, as George Carlin would say, consistency.
You have to be consistent.
And that was from my favorite comedian.
And that's what I look for in my favorite journalist.
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Hello, this is Jimmy.
Who's this?
Jimmy, this is Senator Chuck Schumer of the great state of New York.
Oh, hey there, Senator Schumer.
How you doing?
Jimmy, I am doing very well.
Thank you for asking.
I'm feeling very satisfied at the moment, self-satisfied for sure, but also, in addition, just plain old regular satisfied as well.
Whence all the satisfaction, Senator?
I'll tell you whence the satisfaction, Mr. Mann.
The Senate Democrats have finally reached a power-sharing agreement with the Senate Republicans.
Now we can finally take control of the Senate committees that have been ours in name since we achieved a majority status many weeks ago.
That's great.
What took so long, Chuck?
Well, there were holdups, you know, there were negotiations that needed to be had, things the Republicans were dissatisfied with or not necessarily amenable to.
And we have to respect our colleagues across the aisle who we're going to be working with, you know, in the future.
You've had the majority for weeks now, like you said.
Don't you have any leverage in this situation, at least to move the process along faster than this?
Well, now, look, we don't want to put undue pressure on our Republican friends or make a misstep and inadvertently do something unfair to them.
That would be horrible if that were to happen.
I'd feel just terrible about it.
Do you honestly feel that the Senate Republicans have earned this good faith bargaining position?
I mean, after everything they've done and after every sneaky, slimy trick Mitch McConnell has pulled, Jimmy, on January 6th, when the members of the Senate and House of Representatives had to hide and then flee the congressional building to avoid being attacked and God knows what else by a violent insurrection, there were no Democrats.
There were no Republicans.
There were only human beings, frightened yet determined, and working together to save themselves from the grave peril that we were put in by the actions and words of Congressional and Senate Republicans.
I see.
So it seems to me, bearing that in mind, the very least we could do would be to placate our GOP brothers and sisters so they don't try to have us fucking murdered again.
Right.
Could you elaborate a little bit on these holdups and negotiations that you alluded to?
Sure, of course.
That wouldn't be embarrassing for me at all.
Well, one of the things that I alluded to, it had to do with the filibuster, of course.
Of course.
Of course.
So the Republicans wanted us to promise in writing that we wouldn't try to blow up the filibuster.
And we weren't having that at all.
No, sir, Bob.
No?
No way, Jose.
Not on my watch.
You're not going to come in here and push old Chucky Deschum around like that.
We won this election, Buster Brown.
Right.
So we had Joe Manchin and Kristen Sinema go and tell Mitch McConnell that they would never vote for it, which was essentially the same thing.
I see.
But we signed no papers.
Very admirable, Chuck.
Thank you, kind sir.
Also, Merritt Garland was a bit of a sticking point.
You see, Senate Judiciary Chairman Lindsey Graham reject isn't Dick Durbin the chairman now?
Well, yes, but just a few days ago, he took his seat.
Lindsay just left.
I feel disrespectful not calling him the chairman anymore.
Anyway, Chairman Graham rejected a request to vote on Merritt Garland for Attorney General next Monday because that's when the second impeachment trial is starting.
So now that Durbin is seated, that has been reversed and Garland will be voted on?
No, it will remain as it was.
But that's how we made this deal, see?
Uh-uh.
We showed them.
Oh, yo, yeah, you sure did.
We sure did.
And now we can finally look ahead to moving forward with President Biden's and woman of color vice president Kamala Harris's bold legislative vision for the future.
Assuming congressional Republicans more or less approve of what is being put forward.
We're not trying to ruffle any feathers here.
Don't worry, Chuck.
I'm sure the Biden agenda will be, by and large, rather palatable to the Republicans.
Well, we'll just have to leave that up to the Republicans themselves.
I can't speak for them.
But I will be the bridge between them and President Biden to let the president know what he can expect to get approval from the Republicans on.
How nice of you to do that for them?
I'm just doing my job, Jimmy.
Oh, I have to go.
Sorry, Lindsey Graham and Chuck Grassley are having their weekly Chicken Fingers Tuesday dinner tonight.
I have to get to the cafeteria to sweep to plank across two chairs so they can eat off my back.
Oh, it's going to be an isometric workout for the shoe.
Plank.
I haven't heard a planking reference in a quarter.
So I want to get on to the left's excitement and glee in censoring their political opponents from everywhere, from social media.
So I had a guy on from the Socialist Equality Party, the World Socialist website, and he said this.
And our opposition to Biden is from the left.
Yes.
We're not joining in, you know, with the extreme right.
We do not jump on the bandwagon and say it's the horror of horrors that Trump's Twitter count was taken away.
So again, another short-sighted lefty who doesn't understand how censorship works.
The censorship, how it starts when you're happy about it, it never ends up that way.
It always ends up, you're unhappy.
The first time they censor you're happy, the second time you're unhappy.
And we just showed you that they just started taking down socialist websites.
They just started taking down socialist websites, and he's cheering it on.
So which website did they take down?
They took down his.
Just a few days after that interview, and he was cheering on Donald Trump and his political opponents being censored on social media.
His website got taken down and he was personally at Facebook.
So there it is.
WSW at the worldsocialist website.org.
Your account has been disabled.
Okay.
On Friday, Facebook carried out a purge of left-wing anti-war and progressive pages and accounts, including leading members of the Socialist Equality Party.
At least half a dozen leading members of the Socialist Equality Party had their Facebook accounts permanently disabled.
Facebook gave no explanation why the accounts were disabled or even a public acknowledgement that the deletions had occurred.
And here they are.
There's another one from World Socialist website.
He said, I logged into my Facebook account this morning to find that it had been permanently deleted with no option to appeal the decision.
Apparently, this happened with others today as well.
The irony of this is on the speed with which this happened to that guy and it's just the irony.
Here, here, another one.
Members of the SCP and AbWS website staff, myself included, also had their accounts suspended yesterday.
As we call for, in today's perspective, there must be a Unified response by all left-wing organizations against this type of censorship.
Well, the guy who leads your party was on my show and he was cheering this on, and I pointed out it's going to happen to them, and it happened to you guys immediately.
So, let me so here, Facebook escalates attack on so here it is.
Now, now they get the message, Glenn.
Isn't it amazing?
Here it is: Facebook disables pages of the Baltimore People's Power Assembly and its administrations.
It deletes pages of Struggle, La Lukka, and Socialist Unity Party.
On January 22nd, Facebook disabled the main pages of two major community organizations, People's Power Assembly and Women in Struggle, and activists around the country who have played roles in either group.
Facebook sparks anger after shutting socialist pages.
Here is breaking.
Facebook shut down the major left-wing group in Britain.
Why is Facebook silencing political activists who speak out for Palestine and Black Lives Matters?
That's who they shut down.
Facebook took the action on Friday, shutting down the Socialist Workers' Party page and removing dozens of leading SWP activists from the platform.
The SWB Facebook page regularly posts in support of Palestine, Black Lives Matter, and against Boris Johnson's COVID policies.
It also hosts dozens of online events every week, and the activists across the country take part in it.
And here's what you said: you said Facebook has shut down the accounts of one of the biggest left-wing organizations in Britain, the Socialist Workers' Party.
The SWC, SWP Facebook page posts in support of Palestine, Black Lives Matter, and against Boris Johnson COVID policies.
Congrats to all who urge this system.
So, that was, I didn't enjoy that that happened, but there was some, I did, there was some Schardenfreud happening on my end after that happened.
So, please put Glenn back on.
So, Glenn, go ahead, just respond.
What you would like to say to that story?
Your audio's off.
Your audio's off.
What happened?
So, that British Socialist Workers' Party, unlike those other idiots who cheered it on only to find themselves victimized by it, actually were pretty consistent before this happened in opposing even the deplatforming of Trump, knowing that if they cheered this on, it would likely come from them.
They were among the few principal victims of this.
You know, I find like this has been going on for a while now.
Like in 2017, I've talked about this before, before it was even talked very much about, I reported that Facebook, in like 99% of the cases, they get these requests from the Israeli government to remove the pages of Palestinian journalists and activists.
And what the Israeli government says is that they're inciting violence and for that reason ought to be removed.
And what that really means to the Israeli government, the way you incite violence against Israel, is if you say that the occupation is unjust, if you say that it's justified to resist troops who are stationed illegally on your soil, the way if like China or Russia or Iran stationed troops, military troops, and took over the United States, we would feel a justification to resist that.
If a Palestinian says that, they get accused of hate speech and inciting violence, and Facebook, in almost every instance, removes their page.
Why?
Because Israel is much more powerful than Palestine financially, politically, culturally, and in every other way, and pulls far more weight with Facebook.
So, of course, Facebook is going to censor on behalf of the powerful against the marginalized.
The thing that so many people on the left are too fucking stupid to understand, that these corporations do not use their power to help the marginalized, they use their power exactly in the opposite way.
But the thing that I think is so important to note is this is really true.
It sounds like I'm romanticizing Silicon Valley and I'm not.
Silicon Valley, when they first started pioneering social media, never wanted to censor at all.
Correct.
Not because they're noble people who believe in freedom, but because it was not in their business interest to get involved in these disputes and to have to pay people to remove content.
They wanted everyone in the world to use their platform as much as possible.
They don't want to be taking people off their platform.
The reason they started doing this is because the obligation was foisted upon them largely by American and Western liberals and by journalists, most of all.
So CNN or New York Times or NBC News turns their megaphone and says, look at the hatred Facebook is platforming.
Look at what Twitter is permitting.
Look at the violence, the violent rhetoric that Patreon is spreading.
And they pressured and forced them to start removing them.
And obviously, once you do that, it's not going to be only about one particular ideology.
If for no other reason alone, they're going to balance it by also taking the left-wing extremists offline as well.
But also because the status quo and ruling elites don't care about right or left.
They hate all dissidents.
Anybody who's on the fringes, who's on the margins, who questions their orthodoxies, who's outside of the lines that they impose, are always the ones who are going to get victimized by censorship.
But, you know, I think just two quick things.
One is, remember the torture debate, the debate over torture during the Bush years?
Yes.
I really always hated having to make the argument that torture doesn't work because it implied that if torture was effective and extracting accurate information, it would mean that it was justifiable.
Torture was wrong, regardless of the efficacy of it.
It didn't matter whether it worked or not.
It ought to be prohibited.
For me, this argument about, well, you should oppose censorship because it's also going to eventually silence the left or is silencing the left.
I'm somewhat uncomfortable with that argument because it's a utilitarian argument.
Even if it were only affecting the right, you should still completely oppose it because we don't want a discourse limited and controlled and have the boundaries shaped by corporate elites or Silicon Valley overlords or officials of the state.
You should be opposed to it on principle.
But if you have no principles, if all you care about is power and strategy, then it's still incredibly stupid.
And I know I'm not allowed to talk about GameStop because you have like Dylan Radigan coming on and only he can talk about it.
But I do just want to say that something really interesting happened on the censorship front there, which is on the very day that that Reddit subgroup was fucking the hardest with these hedge funds.
The Discord platform that has become a really important platform for hosting a lot of the discussions about Wall Street Bets, the subreddit group that has led this, banned them.
And when they banned them, they said, oh, we're not banning them because they're fucking with the most influential, powerful billionaires in the country.
No, it has nothing to do with that.
We're banning them because they're engaged in hate speech.
We found hate speech was a remarkable coincidence of timing that exactly at the moment that they were fucking with billionaires, this platform suddenly found so much hate.
Do you not see what is being done?
When Bernie Sanders and Jeremy Corbyn were ascending to power, what was done?
Their followers are abusive.
Their followers use the internet for harassment.
You have to kick their followers offline.
This is the tactic that they're using that the fucking left created, that power centers have co-opted and are now wielding, having watched it be empowered, to say that anyone who challenges us is somebody engaged in hate speech.
They tried very hard.
They're still trying to say that this 4G, this Reddit subgroup is like this 4chan, neo-Nazi, white supremacist, anti-Semitic movement, because that's the play that neoliberals use for everything to silence people, and it has come from the left and has the full support of the left.
The left that says that they hate neoliberals has created and pioneered the exact instrument, the weapon that they now most effectively use against their opponents.
So, I want to, well, I'm going to give you a chance to talk about that, Reddit, because guess what happened on CNBC?
They brought on the CEO of NASDAQ and the host at SoC.
I don't know if you've been watching CNBC, but it is some of my favorite viewing right now.
Just to watch their heads, they don't know what to do, right?
It's like they got to get to the bathroom and there isn't one around and they don't know what to do.
And so, watch this.
We've talked, you know, we've mentioned social media.
I couldn't help but it's not obviously similar to some of this controversy surrounding Facebook and Twitter and everything else.
But, but once again, what's one of the one of the things that we're talking about is maybe misinformation and pump and dumps, and it's occurring on social media again.
It just, I'm wondering whether it's part of the same problem, the type of regulation that we finally need to consider.
And like I said, we should always have a light touch with regulation, but you're seeing the way things can get started again.
This is different.
Maybe it's Reddit, maybe it's not Facebook, but you're seeing the same situation.
At this point, it's not about an election.
It's not about an insurrection, but there are interesting things happening that seem to be spawned to some extent, or at least at least blown out of proportion by social media again, Adina.
Well, so he, I don't know if you could hear all that, Glenn, but what he's he compared what they're doing on Reddit with the with Wall Street and GameStop to the insurrection on January 6th.
He's comparing people doing completely legal things and trading and using the very system Wall Street set up.
They're just getting it regular, when regular people get in on it.
It's the equivalent of trying to overthrow the government.
And so he's advocating to shut down social media.
And now let's watch the CEO of NASDAQ.
I bet she doesn't push back.
Let's listen.
I do think, though, that as we look at these new technologies that are there available to everyone, including investors, I think it's also important for regulators to understand that, you know, manipulation is manipulation, whether it's happening through a new technology medium or it's happening through traditional mail.
So I think it's just a matter of making sure that we understand what the behavior is, what's underpinning the behavior, and working appropriately with the regulators to manage the situation, regardless of the technology that they're using.
So there she goes.
So Glenn, you heard it.
She wants regulators to manage the situation because regular people figured out a way to make money on Wall Street.
You know, there's been several interviews on CNBC on Angry Total.
You should be watching CNBC only right now, never before and never again.
But right now, you should be because it's a real mass-dropping moment for them.
Like we were talking about earlier, they really don't know what to do or say.
They're really set back on their heels because these are not people who are breaking the law in order to win.
They figured out their game.
They studied and figured out their game and through sheer numbers are overwhelming the system and they're winning.
And the hedge fund billionaires and short sellers are losing.
And you see these people feeling like it's a violation of what's divinely ordained.
And I think that this analogy with what happened at the Capitol is actually kind of interesting because obviously there was a lot of behavior at the Capitol that was despicable.
There really was.
I mean, you watch a crowd bash the skull in of a police officer with a fire extinguisher and you want those people in prison.
There's no mitigating or justifying that.
But I also think that the reason why people reacted to what happened at the Capitol so viscerally, meet people in the media, people in politics, was because it was a barbarians at the gate moment, right?
It was some scummy, dirty working class guy with his feet up on Nancy Pelosi's desk.
And it was like some loser who probably didn't go to college, you know, touching the sacred podium.
It had a very strong cultural and class component to it, while at the same time being a dangerous event.
I'm not mitigating the danger, but I'm saying I think part of the reason it was exaggerated was because of this idea that these are the people who are not entitled to be in the Capitol, the sacred halls of political power.
It's very much the same thing about how these people are reacting now, which is, yes, it's fine when hedge fund billionaires manipulate the market and make enormous sums of money for nothing.
They produce nothing of value.
They just move artificial numbers around on the spreadsheet and then they get to buy their next boat with the heliport on it.
But when it's these like anonymous, dirty Reddit trolls who don't even work on Wall Street, they're just like losers buried with college dad in the middle of the country living with their fucking parents.
They're not supposed to be the ones doing this.
That's when it becomes truly alarming.
You can see it in their face.
They're not upset by the behavior.
They're upset by who's doing it.
Yes, that's exactly right.
And so I think this, I just want to play this next clip for you.
It's another guy from CNBC.
And what I love about this is it brings together Russia Gate now.
So now Russia is being used to try to smear these Reddit people.
Watch this.
What kind of case do they have?
We like the stock.
We like the stock.
I mean, that's the game where Ryan Cohen got in.
He bought 15% in $8.
He's on the board.
We like the stock.
How is that bad?
Or do you think that they're concentrating and doing some sort of manipulation if they say they like the stock?
Well, I don't know if they're concentrated because I don't have subpoena power and I can't really go out.
It's only fingerprinted.
I can argue.
I don't even know if there are foreign powers at work here behind the scenes trying to make chaos up our markets.
So they say, I don't even know if there's foreign powers manipulating.
And then even Jim Kramer says, stop it.
Even Jip Kramer had to say at that point.
But you see.
And look at that guy's douchebag face when he got fought.
Like, you know, he's not used to being told.
He's like, look at that.
Look at that stupid fucking face, knowing that he said something incredibly stupid that he's used to like having taken seriously, but this time it was mocked and it got the mockery it deserved.
So again, if we don't like something in America, you say it's Russia, it's Putin, we got to use censorship, it's radicals.
It's hate speech.
So if anything, and anything can be hate speech, by the way.
Or harassment, harassment against the poor, hedge fund managers on their boats.
So think about how they must be feeling or the fucking snake emojis.
Think about poor Elizabeth Warren.
Sit down with Rachel Maddow for a 30-minute interview in the midst of like a huge pandemic and an economic meltdown where the important thing is to talk about how Elizabeth Warren feels because people posted snake emojis because she had dark money funding her campaign through a fucking Silicon Valley, you know, oligarch in order to keep her going through Super Tuesday and help elect Joe Biden to contrary to all the things she ever said.
This is what they do.
This is the exact tactic we've been talking about is over and over and over again.
They just reflexively use it.
I know you're being gender.
Could we do one more story?
It's about the NBC having to apologize for an accurate story.
Do you want to can you?
Yeah, I have a few minutes.
And also, I don't want to eat into the time of the very honored and important expert delegate Dylan Radigan.
I want to make sure your audience gets to hear from him.
So I don't want to take up his time.
Yes, let's do just one more story.
I do need to go in like three minutes.
Okay.
All right.
Put the camera on Steph while I set this up.
All right.
Hello, everybody.
Clint's such a fucking thing.
He is really sticking it to you.
I like funny calls.
Really sticking it to you.
Hey, this is from Incidental Finding.
Robin Hood, don't worry.
You can buy GameStop stock tomorrow after hedge funds have had 24 hours to get out of Dodge by covering their short positions without you peasants making it inconvenient for them by driving the stock price higher.
All right.
Back to JD.
So this is so this is an amazing story.
And this shows you exactly the failure of journalism and why we live in the country we live in.
This guy tweeted out a perfect combination of establishment media fealty to Israel and this increasingly creepy favoritism for the new administration.
So NBC News did a story.
It was accurate and it was negative about Joe Biden.
So then they had to retract it.
So here's the editor's note they did to the story.
They go, hey, earlier today, NBC News published an article reporting that a family foundation linked to President Biden's senior director for cyber policy on the White House National Security Council donated more than a half a million dollars in recent years to APAC, the largest pro-Israel lobbying group in Washington.
That seems important.
After a number of readers raised issues with this article, NBC News conducted a review and has determined that it fell short of our reporting standards.
In order to warrant publication, it needed on-the-record quotes from critics rather than anonymous ones.
Why is that?
They produce almost every article I read from NBC News is sourced with anonymous sources, especially the ones against anti-war voices.
They're all sourcing.
The article should have also included more views from those who believe that donations to APAC do not represent a conflict.
They should also have had more views from people who think APAC is a charity organization that helps banish Palestinians.
They should also have had more views from fucking Benjamin Netanyahu.
They should have had what the fuck?
Can you believe this shit?
I mean, here's, and here's the article.
The foundation linked to Biden's pick for cybersecurity gave 500.
That's a fact.
But then they had to apologize for that.
So, Clenn, what is your reaction to something?
I mean, obviously, there has always been and continues to be enormous pressure not to speak critically of Israel or the Israel lobby.
I think everyone watching your show likely knows that.
And I think we've forgotten because we don't pay that much attention anymore to Israel and Palestine that there is still a huge taboo.
This reporting, it's not groundbreaking.
It's not earth-shattering.
It's like the standard kind of reporting that decent journalists do to show the financial ties of government officials to people and organizations that have a vested interest in the policies that they're now responsible for supervising.
It's just standard financial analysis of people in power that's done every single day.
And yet, in the case of APAC and Israel, these sudden standards, all these new rules arise about how many anonymous sources you're allowed to cite and how many critics you have to include.
I would love for those standards to actually apply, but of course they don't.
I don't know if you saw, but like earlier this week, Jamal Bowman had also posted a tweet critical of Israel for not providing vaccines to Palestinians.
He was absolutely right saying that under international law, because Israel is an occupying power, they have the responsibility for Palestinian health.
And by not doing that, they're turning themselves into kind of a rogue state.
And being a member of Congress from New York, that's a huge taboo to say that about Israel.
And he just deleted the tweet.
I don't know if he provided any commentary about why or has like objectly apologized.
I'm sure he will.
But it's a good reminder, since we often do forget because other things have subsumed it in importance that the taboo on speaking critically of Israel is an extremely potent one still.
Yeah, I mean, you're not allowed to, yeah.
Well, it goes with war, Israel policy, but you're 100% correct.
You know, remember when didn't Benjamin Netanyahu address the Congress with the uninvited from Barack Obama?
Didn't that happen?
Yeah, he was a guest of the Republicans.
He's a completely politicized figure, but it doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter.
You just can Israel is the third rail of American politics still.
And this proves it.
I mean, NBC just quickly, nothing.
They didn't say like we reported anything inaccurate.
No.
They just made up bullshit standards that they never otherwise abide by and then apologized and took the article down.
It's amazing.
They barely pretended.
All right, James, I love your show so much.
I want to come back on very shortly.
I'm sure you're going to have an excellent segment with Dylan Radigan.
Please tell him I said hello.
I'm a huge fan.
Well, I think that's everything for today.
We're really hoping that Dylan brings the heat because this segment really sucked.
But anyway, Glenn Greenwald, everybody check him out at greenwald.substack.com.
And you can please donate to his Hope Shelter for Rescued Dogs, which uses homeless.
Hey, by the way, how was that doing during COVID?
Because you use homeless people to help sheltered animals.
How is that working out?
Well, they live on the property.
And so it's actually been very good for them because it's, you know, it's like on a kind of a farm.
So it's like in an isolated area.
And some of them do have compromised health from living on the street for so long.
So it's been important for them actually to avoid getting infected.
And so far, none of the people who work at the shelter have been infected with COVID.
So it's really worked out well in that regard.
Okay, fantastic.
Glenn Greenwald.
All right, Jimmy.
Thank you for talking to you.
Bye-bye, buddy.
Bye.
Have fun on Laundry Day.
Hey, President Joe Biden's on the phone.
Hello.
Firstly, I'm on the phone.
And second, I'm Joe Biden.
But you can call me Joe Biden.
And guess what?
What?
I'm going to have to circle back on that one.
And when I do, I'll be able to unpack it for you better.
I appreciate it.
Great question.
Hey, I didn't ask you anything.
Happy Groundhogs Day, man.
This the day is that all Groundhogs celebrate the freedoms that our great nations bestowed upon them of.
It's a great melting pot of people.
Hey, people are saying your foreign policy isn't going to be any different than Trump's.
How do you respond to that?
I'll cut the crap, man.
I had to send our troops into Syria so you wouldn't come here.
Yeah.
You wouldn't want our troops coming here, would you?
Yeah.
Fucking boots everywhere.
Jeez.
Bunch of sleeping bags in our parking garage.
Simple as that, Simon.
Get with it.
And what about Venezuela, Joe?
Will you shut up?
I never touched her.
No, no, Joe, the country, Venezuela.
Come on, man.
Are you so pissed off because I recognized Juan Guaido?
What am I supposed to do?
I saw him on the street and I said, hey, I recognize this guy.
Juan.
Juan Guaido of Venetia.
Pretty good memory I still have, right?
Even the European Union can't recognize him anymore.
I remember stuff.
That's why I anointed Tommy Blinken for Secretary of State.
You promised a public option, Joe.
What happened to the public option?
Completely unnecessary.
Public already has an option.
Slow, tortuous death.
Yeah.
It's all part of the American dream.
Get with it.
Get on it.
Get up.
Get down.
Get fucked.
You get loose.
That's only a part of it.
What's the other part?
Prison.
You do squares a day.
Roof over your head.
The best privatized health care we can offer.
Look, help is on the way.
The $1,400, $2,000, or $1,000 check minus expenses should be arriving any day now, starting early February, March, or probably April.
Depending on how much you made in 1998.
Wow, it sounds great, Joe.
But there's a catch.
Yeah, what's the catch?
You got to be alive to receive it.
Don't go defraud the United States of Americans by dying in February and trying to cash your damn check in April.
We'll come and kill your whole fucking family.
That's a fact, Cracker Jack Pez Dispenser out of Pop Palm Tree.
Hey, didn't you copy your health care plan from an insurance industry letter?
Of course not.
My wife did.
And only the bad parts.
She's a doctor.
Lastly, don't miss the premiere episode of Snow Piercer.
Tonight on TNT, it's about snow.
And if you don't like it, you ain't black, Jack.
Shit to stay the union.
If you got a mask, will you shut up, man?
Four years of this guy.
Four fucking years.
Got a new Secretary of State.
And breaking the U.S. Secretary of State Blinken says that Iran could now be weeks away from having material to build a nuclear bomb.
Hey, Iran's been weeks away from having material to build a bomb since 1979.
Here we go.
There it is.
NBC Universal.
Blinken says Iran possibly closer to enough material for nuclear bomb.
That's not harmful to their viewers, though, Graham, right?
To print straight-up propaganda like that.
That's not.
Come on.
Secretary of State Antony.
Antony Blinken.
Not Anthony.
Antony.
Repeated warnings that Iran could be on course to get enough fissile material to build a nuclear weapon within months.
Scared, scared, be afraid that Iran's going to launch a nuclear weapon.
Adding that if Iran continues to lift restraints from the nuclear deal, it could be a matter of weeks.
National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan said, we are going to have to address Iran's other bad behavior.
What about our bad behavior, Robie?
I don't know if you look at the country right next to them, what we did to it, and then the country right next to that, and then the country just north of that, and then the country to the east of that.
Do you see what the fuck we're doing?
Bad behavior by Iran?
Who is Iran invaded?
Nobody.
Who else is Iran bombed?
Nobody.
How many nuclear weapons does Iran have?
Zero.
How many do we have?
5,000.
We are going to have to address Iran's other bad behavior, malign behavior across the region.
But from our perspective, a critical early priority has to be to deal with what is an escalating nuclear crisis as they move closer and closer to having enough fissile material for a weapon.
When are we going to address it?
By the way, here you go.
Countries attacked by bombing, sabotage, and attempted government overthrow since World War II.
Iran, zero.
This is all the ones the United States have done.
So when are we going to address our bad behavior?
This is the textbook, do as I say, not as I do.
That's what this is.
And you want to know how long they've been saying that Iran is close to getting a nuclear weapon?
Do you want to see?
Well, here's Colin Powell saying it in 2004.
2004, 16 years ago, almost two decades.
They've been saying this shit.
The United States has intelligence that Iran is working to adapt missiles to deliver a nuclear weapon.
Further evidence that the Islamic Republic is determined to acquire a nuclear bomb, Secretary of State Colin Powell said on Wednesday, right after he got done turning Iraq into a hellfire escape.
After Colin Powell lied us into an illegal war that killed millions of people, children, old people.
New report says that Iran can have a nuclear bomb in a month.
That's from 2013.
A study by Washington-based Institute for Science and International Security claims new and advanced centrifuges have reduced possible breakout timeframe.
Here's one from 2012.
Iran on the brink of nuclear bomb in six to seven months, says Benjamin.
Natanyaho.
Is this amazing?
They might be able to get the new centrifuges.
They might be able to get the centrifuges.
And with, you know, with Amazon Prime, you think they would have gotten it already.
As soon as Iran finds the keys to that centrifuge, it's going to be bomb bomb bomb.
And by the way, Colin Powell's never led us astray before.
Ever.
When has Colin Powell ever led us astray?
I'm serious.
U.S. Secretary of State, Iran weeks away from having material to build a nuclear bomb.
It's like one of those fanatical cults that keeps predicting the end of the world, but they're wrong every single time.
It's like the United States is the boy who cried wolf, except we're the boy and we're the wolf.
Right?
Is it that I've been thinking about this a long time, and I think our media might not be the best when it comes to foreign policy.
I know, crazy.
I'm not going to make a lot of friends at parties saying this, but I don't think you can rely on U.S. media.
By the way, nuclear weapons, United States, 5,550.
Iran still zero.
Still zero, Graham.
Wow.
Go ahead.
Well, I mean, look, Iran has committed a lot of crimes, man.
Let's be real clear here.
They poisoned the water in Flint, Michigan.
They shot water protectors at Standing Rock.
They gave the banks over a trillion dollars and let the banks steal six million homes, mine being one of them.
So, you know, Iran has a lot to answer for.
You know, it was the Iran police department that kills on our black men.
It's, you know, I mean, it's just preposterous.
They've been, I mean, you can find video footage from 2007 of Senator Hillary Clinton saying, whoa, we got to get Iran.
So they've been ramping up war with Iran.
I mean, for the last year or so of Trump's presidency, year and a half, two years, all this stuff in the false flag high wave, the straight of hormoots, you know, all this stuff.
And let's not forget.
So, when the pandemic hit, we kept our sanctions on Iran.
We actually made their COVID situation worse, which isn't like tough military strategy.
That's not good for the whole world.
So, even like the so-called evil empires of China and Russia are giving their vaccines out to whoever they can.
We're sanctioning a country that's making COVID worse.
We've kept the sanctions going in Venezuela and Iran.
And now it's just like, oh, they're going to have a nuke.
They're going to have a nuke.
You know, North Korea, like there's always some boogeyman lurking around the corner.
As I said in a previous thing, they got to keep us divided, distracted, and afraid.
And I said this on my show.
I know you said this on your show.
I go, when Biden, the minute Biden was declared winner, I go, he's going to be at war with Iran within his first year.
Done.
I mean, there's no two ways about it.
He's got all these Clinton and Obama people in his cabinet, you know.
And of course, what is the mainstream media doing, including like Democracy Now?
Oh, first black man, Secretary of Defense.
Oh, they forgot to mention he's on Raytheon's.
Like, it's just unbelievable.
Biden's whole cabinet.
They had to get a special, they had to get a special like clearance for him because it broke a rule about him working for Raytheon and then coming in to be the secretary.
They had to get a special clearance.
Did you hear about that?
Yeah, special clearance, but they always find, they always can make a special clearance.
It's not like you're not qualified.
It's like, we'll write a special flint flam kangaroo law that says you can bomb a man make money and claim to be for America at the same time.
It's great.
So it's just preposterous.
And, you know, as you've talked about on your show and the live shows we've done together, you show that Anthony Bourdain Clip where he talks about the Persian people are nice and kind.
And these are people we're talking about.
These are people.
And Iran hasn't done one 100th of the evil shit if you just demonstrated that the United States Empire has done.
And it's just, it's just the constant war machine.
And we can't get $2,000 checks, but boy, we always got money for war and now it's got to be Iran.
That's the thing about, you know, that was, that was what, for me, I was such a big Sam Harris fan, right?
Because I loved what stuff he said about religion.
He was always right on, and he was even funny.
And then when he stuck his toe into foreign policy, it's like, oh, you're just, oh, you're just as horrible as Dick Cheney.
You're just a, you're just a, you think Muslim bad and the United States good, even though we're we're, we've caused way more destruction ever.
There's no, not even close to destruction we've caused in the world.
It's not even close to destruction we Christian under the name of Christianity.
It's just, so that's the thing that drives me nuts is somehow they're bad, even though we're the ones setting the entire world on fire right now.
How many military bases does Russia and China have around the world?
Three.
You know how many United States has?
A thousand.
We have a literal city in Germany still.
I was in it.
Have you ever been in that city in Germany where they have yeah, it's like it's just one huge United States military base with thousands and thousands of people in the middle of another country.
I mean, we have bases surrounding Iran.
We have bases surrounding China and Russia on like, you know, three other four borders.
I mean, imagine, imagine if Iran or Russia or China had bases all throughout Mexico, in the Caribbean, all throughout Canada, Hawaii.
Like, I mean, imagine that.
Imagine we would be like, oh, God, we'd be terrified and rightfully so.
And we do this all over the world.
And we just, I mean, how delusional is it that this America's the good guy?
No, we're not.
Iran has committed the egregious crime of not giving up their oil to us.
And that's what this is all about.
That's what it's all about.
And by the way, they put their first thing Joe Biden did too was get some money going to Venezuela to overthrow Venezuela.
Venezuela has more oil than Saudi Arabia.
I wonder why we're really concerned about bringing democracy to their people.
Senator Bernie Sanders is calling me.
Hey, Bernie.
Buy my mittens, meme tea, and sweatshirts and cheapskate.
Why are you asking so cheekily?
So I can give the proceeds to charity and help the American people during these trying times.
And don't you dare do one of those.
That sounds nice.
But what about those $2,000 checks we all were promised in great unless you want a mittens colonoscopy?
Hey, well, that sounds nice, but what about those $2,000 checks you all promised?
Oh, God, this fucking never ends.
Well, don't you worry.
As I told my good friend Anderson Cooper yesterday, we've got to get checks of $1,400 on top of the $600 that we already allocated to working class families.
Happy yet?
Yeah, okay, but that's not the $2,000 on day one that you all promised.
Okay, first of all, buy my goddamn $45 crew neck sweaters now, you ungrateful bastard.
Why?
You ask again, not realizing the rage simmering deep beneath the surface of my poofy winter jacket.
What about the $2,000 checks, Bernie?
What about the $2,000 checks?
Hey, you know, there's a lot more to that phone call, but we don't have time in today's podcast.
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Today's show was written by Ron Placone, Mark Van Landowitz, Steph Zamorano, Jim Earl, Mike McRae, and Roger Rittenhouse.
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That's it for this week.
you be the best you can be and I'll keep being me.
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Don't freak out.
I'm not getting it.
Don't don't.
Don't you don't get out of here.
Don't freak out.
Do not, do not.
Do not freak.
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