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The Jimmy Dore show.
Wow.
Herman Kane's calling me.
Hello.
Hey, Jimmy, I'm Herman Kane.
Guess what?
What?
I'm mad.
We know, Herman.
Sad.
Seriously.
This isn't some April Fool's joke.
I'm really dead.
Well, where are you then?
I'm in limbo.
Everybody here is looking at me like I'm some kind of a-hole or something.
I can't, for the life of me, figure out what the heck happened.
You're in limbo?
I didn't even know you were Catholic.
Herman Kane is not a Catholic.
This can't be right.
I'm stuck here with a bunch of losers with bad attitudes and I'm fed up.
I wish I could help you, Herman.
Help me!
I don't know what to do.
I don't know what to do.
I've been trying to retrace my steps to ascertain exactly what in the heck went wrong.
Oh, no.
But I can't figure it out.
It's a mystery.
Well, what's the last thing you remember?
Walking slowly towards a bright light.
Where?
In an arena full of people who were fed up.
Why weren't you wearing a mask in an arena full of people?
Oh, stop exaggerating.
It wasn't really full of people.
Well, why couldn't you just wear a mask?
Because Herman Kane was exercising his personal freedoms to be fed up, get sick, and die.
I'm Herman Kane.
Well, that was Herman Kane.
I was Herman Kane.
Now that you're in limbo, do you still think it's a bad idea to wear a mask?
I'm wearing one now.
These ancient Romans smell really bad.
Somebody crack a window.
What happened?
Why am I here?
Isn't there anyone there you can talk to?
I see Bob Dole over there in the corner, but I don't want to go over and talk to him.
Why not?
Because he's not dead yet.
He just thinks he is.
Help me.
I'm Herman Kane and I'm dead.
We can't do anything for you, Herman.
I'm sorry.
Wait a second.
Wilford Brimley just entered the room.
This is a limbo.
I'm in hell.
I'm going to spend an eternity listening to Wilford Brimley mispronounced Diabetes.
Hey, before you leave, do you have any regrets, Herman?
Yeah.
Try not to die before deleting your massive library of crucifixion porn.
Oh, come on.
Herman Kane's massive library of crucifixion porn.
I'm dead and fed up.
Establishment media sets of August lighting.
So good luck.
Watch and see as a jackal comedian speeds and jumps the medium and hit some head-on.
It's the Jimmy Door show.
Hi, everyone.
Welcome to this week's Jimmy Door show.
Hey, let's get to the jokes before we get to the jokes, shall we?
This just in Herman Kane is now fully qualified to sit on the Federal Reserve Board.
You know, with everything that's going on right now, it's nice to know that complete strangers still care about my vehicle's extended warranty.
And you know what?
I have been feeling down about the country lately.
And whenever I'm feeling down about the country, not having free health care during a deadly pandemic, all I got to do is watch David Muir's America Strong segment on ABC News.
And I forget all about that.
We're a failed state.
We're a failed state that doesn't give its own people healthcare in the middle of the pandemic.
Hey, molecular scientists just diagnosed a case of malignant bone cancer in a 76 million year old dinosaur.
Yeah.
Just a reminder, Joe Biden says he's going to cure cancer in eight years.
You know, there's been a lot of speculation over who should replace Ellen if she should leave the show.
Oh, yeah.
Not to toot my own horn, but I've been squatting over coffee tables for years.
Hey, what's coming up on today's show?
America's unemployment crisis is about to get even worse, and Congress does nothing and goes home.
Hey, Snopes.com claims to be a fact-checking organization.
Turns out they got caught again doing democratic propaganda.
Plus, the DNC corruption laid bare.
We talked to Brett Welder of the DNC Rules Committee representative for Bernie Sanders.
Plus, phone calls from Herman Kane, Liam Neeson, Chuck Schumer, and Mitt Romney, plus a lot lot more.
That's today on The Jimmy Dore Show.
The Jimmy Dore Show.
So guess what?
Somebody quit over at the MSNBC.
Yes.
Some personal news why I'm now leaving MSNBC.
It's not the optimal time for change, but the time doesn't feel optional anymore.
So there she is.
Arianne Picari is a producer at MSNBC where she has become an integral or integral, integral member for a primetime hour hosted by Lawrence O'Donnell.
Her broadcast career began in 2002 at NPR, where she assisted the Omsbudsman to assess editorial content.
Oh, I would love to be an Omsbudsman.
July 24th was my last day at MSNBC.
I simply couldn't stay there anymore.
The problem is the job itself.
It forces skilled journalists to make bad decisions on a daily basis.
So the bad decision, I'm just going to guess.
The bad decision is when you decide to take the $7 million and do shitty news.
When you decide to bite your tongue, when you decide to push an evidence-free conspiracy theory because it favors your bosses and the establishment and Democratic Party.
Well, let's see.
You may not watch MSNBC, but just know that this problem still affects you, too.
All the commercial networks function the same.
They take money from the people they're supposed to be reporting on, and then they don't do any reporting on them.
Okay.
It's taboo to discuss how the rating scheme distorts content.
Do you remember Ted Koppel?
I was going to go look at this video, but it's on my old computer, which is broken, which I left out in the rain.
So the video I was just about to go grab was a video of Ted Koppel in a symposium somewhere in front of a bunch of room full of people telling the media critic from CNN, Steltzer, Brian Stelter.
He said that you love Donald Trump.
What were your ratings before Trump?
what are your ratings now?
And Stelter said, ratings don't, it doesn't matter if our ratings are down 50%, 30%, it doesn't matter.
And everyone laughed at him because that's the only thing that matters.
That's the only thing that matters is ratings.
It's taboo to discuss how the rating scheme distorts content, or it's simply taken for granted.
Because everyone in the commercial broadcast news industry is doing the exact same thing.
And that's why we're here.
And that's why it's crazy that YouTube favors establishment media because they're horrible.
And someone from the inside is telling you they're all horrible.
Just like Chomsky pointed out in manufacturing consent, they're manufacturing consent.
They're not bringing you the news.
We are a cancer and there is no cure.
A successful and insightful TV veteran said to me, We, meeting the news people, they're the cancer.
But if you could find a cure, it would change the world.
This cancer risks our democracy even in the middle of a presidential election.
Any discussion about the election usually focuses on Donald Trump, not Joe Biden.
A repeat offense from 2016.
This is from the producer from the Lawrence O'Donnell show.
Context and factual data are often considered too cumbersome for the audience.
Another hard truth is that it is the job of journalists to teach and inform.
Occasionally, producers will choose to do a topic or story without regard for how they think it will rate.
But that is the exception, not the rule.
You know, like when Chris Hayes talks about Gaza for approximately three minutes in two years like that?
Yeah, the exception.
Due to the simple structure of the industry, the desire to charge more money for commercials, as well as the ratings bonuses that top-tier decision makers earn, they always relapse into their old profitable, profitable programming habits.
Nearly every rundown at the network basically is the same hour after hour.
Isn't it weird that Chris Hayes covers the exact same things Rachel Maddow covers the exact same things Ari Melbert covers the exact same things.
Felt Ari was that guy?
Whatever the fuck.
It doesn't matter.
You know what I'm saying?
They use the subjective nature of the news to justify economically beneficial decisions.
I've even heard producers deny their role as journalists.
So what I'm to read there is that they do mental gymnastics to allow themselves to put money over news every time.
So they do mental gymnastics.
And then even the producers go, I'm not a journalist.
I'm producing a TV show.
That's what I hear.
I'm producing a TV.
We do entertainment.
That's what I hear.
I've heard producers deny their role as journalists.
We're not journalism.
We're selling soap.
A senior producer said, our viewers don't really consider us the news.
They come to us for comfort.
And that is a fact.
I know smarty pants people in Hollywood, blue check Hollywood comedy world, who years ago admitted on stage, they go to watch Rachel Maddow.
She says, oh, just tell me something bad about Donald Trump.
I don't care what it is.
And so now you know you're not better than the people you claim to not like.
The ignoramuses you claim to not like.
You're just at a different team.
You're just on a different team of dummies.
Ignorant on purpose.
And my blue check comedy Hollywood friends, they're not catching on.
It's not, they're not, they weren't like, oh yeah, it's fucked up.
Look at what they're doing.
Joe Biden?
Jesus Christ.
He's the reason we got Donald Trump.
I know.
They're not doing that.
So here we go.
Here's.
So before the last time this happened was a guy at NBC News who we ended up meeting.
And I'm blanking on his name.
And he quit NBC News because they don't report.
He thought he was there to report on the war and foreign policy.
And story after story, he wasn't allowed to tell the truth about it.
So he made a big stink and he left.
What the hell is, we did a video about him.
I know.
William Arkin.
William Arkin.
William Arkin.
Yes.
And that video was from January 4th, 2019.
Reporter quits over NBC's devotion to war.
It has over 245,000.
245,000 views.
So one person in all of television news comes out and says that.
One person.
Isn't that funny?
And as Aaron Matei will tell me over and over, yeah, people have bills to pay, Jimmy.
That's why news sucks.
That's why it's hard to do real journalism.
That goes against the establishment narrative.
because there's only six companies.
And I am hated by the establishment.
Hated.
Hated by the establishment.
Why?
Because I do better news than they do.
Because I show how easy it is to actually do journalism.
because I've been scooping them for fucking five years.
That's why.
Can you imagine being in journalism, going along with Russiagate for four years and then pointing your finger and wagging your finger at anybody else?
Oh, Fox, Sean Hannity somehow bad, worse than you?
If you did Russiagate, you are no better than anyone.
You are the moral superior of no one.
If you did Russiagate and you wag your finger at Donald Trump or Fox News, you're in the nicest way, you're just a dumb hypocrite.
That's the nicest way I could say it.
You're an ignorant hypocrite on purpose.
So that's why the establishment and especially the Democratic establishment, AOC came on my show and immediately was told you can never fucking do that again.
And she has not come back on the show.
She wouldn't even return an email.
Same thing with Cori Bush.
Cori Bush, we were the first ones to have Cori Bush on and Cori Bush stopped and as soon as she got the finger wagging from the Democratic Party, on jimmy dorshad That was it.
And I wouldn't have it any other way.
Believe me.
The fact that I've never, one of the sweetest things was someone telling me that, Jimmy, if I could see that at Jimmy Dorse show, my career at the Democratic Party is over.
Hey, this is Jimmy.
Who's this?
Seamus, it's Liam Neeson.
Oh, Liam, how are you?
I'm doing very well, considering unprecedented times and all that jazz.
And I must say, I've been thinking about how much I admire you.
Admire me?
Absolutely.
You have a succinct worldview.
A prism through which you make sense of the cacophony of human events that perpetually surrounds us.
Well, yeah, I mean, I suppose I do thank you.
I mean, the nexus of politics and humor, you could say.
Precisely.
It's quite admirable.
Every wise man should strive to obtain such a prism.
My father was a mechanic, for example.
To him, the world was an array of machines and systems that could be built, broken down, and then rebuilt again.
Some men have religion.
Some poor souls have only psychosis and self-delusion.
Okay, what's your point, Liam?
Jimmy, I'm trying to define and refine my own prism, but it is difficult.
Nothing makes sense to me.
These things that happen, I do not understand them.
I see.
But then I realize my prism.
It's a special kind of prism.
A camera lens.
I understand the world cinematically.
I make sense of things around me by pretending that they are scenes in a film.
Oh, yeah, but life isn't a movie, Liam.
On the surface, it would appear so.
For example, a dangerous and cruel populist with fascist tendency gets elected president.
Rumors abound that he is a Russian asset.
What nefarious plot is he about to be hatched?
Is he going to blow up the Washington Monument?
No, Liam.
He doesn't have any plans, nefarious or not.
He's just a con man.
And the Russian thing, that was Democratic nonsense.
Exactly.
The whole thing completely falls apart in the third act.
COVID-19, a mysterious virus from China.
What exactly are the symptoms?
Nobody knows.
What is the government hiding?
Will this movie eventually feature zombies?
It is the summer after all.
Liam, we know what the symptoms are and also how to prevent the spread.
The government has just bungled its response, that's all.
Also, zombies aren't real.
Precisely my point.
It's like they started filming before the principles were even off-book.
Very unprofessional, in my opinion.
But finally, I saw something that made sense.
What?
What's that?
A giant explosion.
Liam!
Yes!
Fucking awesome!
Did you see it?
Did you see that video?
Liam, people died, buddy.
Yes, but probably only extras.
And it happened in Beirut, no less.
Beirut!
A city that we Westerners are programmed to associate with terrorism.
A scary desert place where all the colors are muted for some reason.
Boom!
Beirut is on the Mediterranean Sea and is a very cosmopolitan city.
What a fantastic way to start a picture.
Just up and running in the first five minutes.
Ethan Hunt and the IMF have only 24 hours to clear their name.
Was it terrorism, or was it made to look like terrorism?
I have a sneaking suspicion that we will be led to believe one thing in the second act.
And then, ta-da!
Plot twist in the final ten.
It was the CIA which has been infiltrated by Spectre.
Liam, Liam, we don't know anything yet.
They're saying it was a giant industrial accident.
I mean, sure, who knows, but we need to wait for the facts and reporting.
The hell we do, Jimmy Clovertoes.
Not with this script.
This one's a banger.
Finally, something I can make sense of.
I feel like I know this one.
Yes, yeah, the movies that Hollywood make, like the ones you star in, they give us a false sense that we can somehow intuit what is going on in the world, especially in the Middle East.
Again, real life is not a movie, Liam.
Jimmy, don't take this away from me, please.
Think of the sequels.
The franchise possibilities here.
This one will dominate in the Chinese market, generate billions in revenue.
Okay, you're taking this analogy too far, Liam.
We don't know what this explosion is about yet.
There's no need to construct the fake action movie interpretation of this horrible event.
You need a new prism, Liam.
But I like this prism.
Try a prism where you use facts and logic to understand world events.
How about that?
Okay, okay.
So you're saying Scientology?
I don't know if that's for me.
I was never a big math and science guy, to be honest.
No, Liam, not Scientology.
Not that.
Tell you what.
How about you just keep listening to our show?
Subscribe on YouTube.
We'll let you know what's going on.
Fair enough, my old friend.
I suppose there is enough of your wisdom to go around the Bally Shannon once or twice, as the old reel goes.
Sounds good to me.
But, Jimmy.
What?
Did you see that video?
So I just want to do this real quick.
This is happening.
So unemployment ran out.
So, you know how people were getting $600 extra a week because the government shut down everyone's business.
Well, that ran out, and the Senate did not come up with a plan to extend it or to help people, and they went home.
And literally, CNBC was running a segment advising people who are losing their unemployment benefits to, quote, make ends meet by following a pandemic budget, contact lenders and creditors for help, and post your skills on Nextdoor, Instagram, and Facebook.
Wow.
So, for every five people unemployed, there's one job.
So, it doesn't matter how many times you post your skills on Nextdoor, Instagram, or Facebook.
Four out of five people, there's no jobs for them.
Talk to your lenders and creditors for help, for help?
What are they going to do?
Give me a job?
What do you mean, ask them for help?
They're getting ready to kick people out of their houses with federal unemployment benefits expiring on Friday, that was yesterday, a serious blow to millions of Americans who lost jobs due to the coronavirus pandemic.
The Senate became bogged down in partisan fighting and left town without a resolution to the crisis.
Left town.
The end of a $600 per week federal benefit when combined with the lapsing of an eviction moratorium Will likely lead to serious financial problems for those hit hardest by the pandemic and economic collapse.
More than 1.4 million people filed initial unemployment claims last week, according to the Department of Labor, while the U.S. economy contracted by more than 9% in the second quarter of 2020, the worst drop on record.
Worst economy on record.
And they went home.
Republicans argue the benefits provide a disincentive to work.
They just gave $5 trillion.
They give a trillion dollars, whatever Wall Street asks.
That's not a disincentive to work.
But giving people $600 when you close down their business and take their job away and give them no health care, that's a disincentive to work.
Well, what you could do, which was proposed, is you let the people keep the $600 and the money they earn when they go to work if they go to work.
So it's not a disincentive.
So they want to pay everybody $200 flat.
And then they want to adjust their system to a 70% wage replacement.
$200 a week.
You know what $200 a week is?
So a minimum wage, $7.25 per hour times 40 hours equals $290.
That's not even a minimum wage, $200.
That's not even minimum wage.
And let me remind you: if your employees make more on unemployment, you're not a job creator.
You're a poverty exploiter.
Here's what I say to CNBC.
When they're telling everybody to go make ends meet, go to Instagram, next door, post your skills.
I say, whatever you do, don't spend what little savings you have left on torches and pitchforks.
So we live in a failed state.
This is a failed state.
What is a failed state?
When a government can't provide basic services to its own people, we can't even provide health care to people in a pandemic.
We can't even provide housing.
We can't even provide jobs.
We can't provide debt relief.
We can't provide student debt relief.
We can't provide education.
This is a failed state.
I know you turn on the news and they look like it's everything's normal.
They're just back and forth.
The Democrats blame the Republicans, Republicans blame the Democrats.
My friend was at a party last night with Democrat, with Hollywood comedians.
Not a party, but like a dinner party where everybody's social distanced.
He's the famous comedians.
And they were all talking about how great Nancy Pelosi is.
No kidding.
No kidding.
Wow, Chuck Schumer's calling me again.
Hello.
Oh, hi, Jimmy.
I need a pep talk.
What's wrong, Chuck?
You ever get that I'm going to tell the maid to take the rest of the day off so I can take a long nap feeling.
Is that how you feel right now?
Oh, dear me, yes.
I'm sure you can't relate to any of this, but sometimes being the legendary master of the Senate can be a heavy burden to bear, even for a man such as myself who possesses an iron will and nerves of steel.
If only there were a name I could add to master of the Senate that denotes the strength and power of steel.
Well, there's Stalin.
Chuck Schumer Stalin, Master of the Senate.
I don't know, Jimmy.
Something about it doesn't sound right.
How about Chuck Stalin Schumer?
What's bothering you, Chuck?
Chuck Stalin.
What could you possibly be upset about?
You're highly respected in the party, aren't you?
Oh, really?
Well, you apparently didn't hear what Nancy just did, did you?
No, what did she do?
She upstaged me again.
She came up with a nickname for Donald Trump that I can't possibly top.
And I want to warn your listeners, this may not be suitable for work.
Ready?
Yeah.
She called him.
Wait for it.
Mr. Make Matters Worse!
Wow.
Yeah.
What a burn, right?
That's got to hurt.
I can't top that.
30 million Americans aren't getting enough to eat right now, Chuck.
Maybe you can help me.
You're used to making pointed remarks about political figures and stuff, right?
That's just way out of my ballpark.
Shouldn't that be your job description?
My friends have always told me I'm funny, so I came up with some nicknames of my own for Donald Trump.
May I try some out on you?
Sure, Chuck.
Go ahead.
Okay.
Mr. Not a Nice Man.
Or, Mr. I know you are, but what am I?
Yeah.
And then I came up with Mr. Bad Manners face on asset.
Are those what you would call zingers, young man?
Isn't this all kind of pointless, Chuck?
Why don't you and your people ever oppose Trump for real?
Boy, aren't you a Mr. Nasty Pants?
I am the master of opposition, young man.
You don't realize how hard I work every few weeks.
Seriously, what are you doing to help people right now?
Hold on to your seat.
I have urged that TikTok be closed down in America.
This TikTok, it's a menace.
What with the Chinese communists using it to indoctrinate our children?
Okay, but what about the 27 million Americans who just lost their jobs in healthcare?
Young man, do you want the Cuomo Tang finding out which Americans like videos of chipmunks sleeping on top of cats?
Be sensible.
For the security of our nation, I have asked Microsoft to take over TikTok.
So it's okay for Bill Gates to personally oversee your photos and personal information?
You have nothing to fear as long as you're not a terrorist trade or rush and asset, useful idiot cockholster for Putin.
That's what Donald Trump just asked Bill Gates to do by TikTok.
Ah, but I asked him first.
See the difference?
I feel better already.
I will not stop there, good citizen, for I am currently drafting a bill directing the Department of Homeland Security to take over the app that photo bombs a squirrel into all your private pictures.
You mean the squirrelizer is controlled by communists?
Yes, Jimmy.
Rest assured.
I'm very confident that as long as we stay the course with this kind of resistance, in addition to the occasional fat meme showing Trump and Vladimir Putin kissing, we'll have this election in a bag, my friend.
And you can repeat that in Ohio And Illinois and that other state I can't remember the name of with all the cheese.
Now go fuck yourself, Mr. Nasty Pants.
My work is done here.
Away.
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Hey, everybody.
There's an economic calamity happening.
And in fact, 43 million Americans at risk of eviction as relief programs and moratoriums expire.
It's a nightmare.
That's from July 31st, CBS News this morning.
Here's another one: eviction moratorium on federally backed housing expired last week.
It covered more than 12 million households or 30% and 30% of U.S. renters.
That's all over with.
You can kick all those people out now.
New Orleans officials brace for evictions and an uptick in homelessness with federal aid ending.
We're just going to kick people out of the streets in America.
That's their plan.
That's Nancy Pelosi's plan.
That's Donald Trump's plan.
That's Joe Biden's plan.
Families across Louisiana are bracing themselves.
The final protection for tenants will end August 24th.
And the additional federal employment is set to end July 31st.
Louisiana is one of the three states in the entire country where in the next few months, it is estimated a third of our residents will not be able to make mortgage or house payments.
A third of their residents in Louisiana.
Do you know what this is called, ladies and gentlemen?
This is called a failed state where a state government, its government, a country's government, can't even provide the basic amount of services to its people.
It can't provide health care.
It can't provide them housing.
It can't provide them education.
What the fuck is a government for?
Oh, so we can go bomb other countries and steal shit?
That's right.
Happening now.
Protesters have chained themselves to doors and blocked every entrance of New Orleans city court, demanding evictions be stopped during the COVID-19 pandemic.
We're still in a pandemic and they're evicting people after they closed down everyone's businesses.
They didn't do this in other countries.
This isn't happening in other countries.
This is happening in the United States.
Not happening in other countries, happening here.
Why?
Because people keep telling you to vote for Democrats.
Because people are a bunch of fucking gutless pricks who won't do what's right.
Because we don't have a government in our country that represents people and people keep telling you to keep voting for them.
And then they pretend that they're progressives.
They're not.
They're go-along party hacks.
Anybody telling you to vote Democrat is a goddamn go-along party hack.
Because that ain't working.
Do you see what's happening?
People are having to chain themselves to courtroom doors because they know what's coming and they know that Danitzy Pelosi and Joe Biden ain't going to help them one goddamn bit.
There they are.
There they are.
Direct action.
So I've tweeted, retweeted that video and I said direct action like this is the only thing that will save this country from its evil oligarchs who won't give you health care during a pandemic, but will close your business and kick you into the street when you can't pay mortgage.
Voting Blue will not help this.
The Debt Collective tweeted this.
Landlord is being blocked from entering an eviction court to violently evict his tenants who can't pay their rent during a Great Depression and will be homeless during a global pandemic.
So there we are.
That's what's coming.
And they can't wait to take your house.
The banks, the mortgage servicers, they cannot wait to take your house and kick you out in the street.
They cannot wait.
So there you go.
That's what your government's doing.
This is what's known as a failed state.
That's what we're living in.
You have the authorities running around shooting people, killing people, using chemical weapons, assaulting them in broad daylight on camera, coast to coast, as people protest what's going on.
This is a failed state.
And Bernie Sanders won't even fucking scream for you right now.
What Bernie Sanders is doing is telling you to shut up and vote for Joe Biden.
That's what he's doing.
You'll be irresponsible if you didn't vote for a guy who promises not to help you.
What every person who's in power should be doing, who cares about anyone, should be making demands of the government and saying, you shouldn't vote for anybody who's not going to give you Medicare for all.
You shouldn't vote for anybody who's not going to give you a UBI in the middle of shutting down your business.
They gave $5 trillion to the richest 1,000 people in the country.
And you know what they gave you?
Nothing.
They're going to kick you out of your house.
That's right.
And who's doing it?
Nancy Pelosi.
Who's doing it?
Joe Biden.
Who's doing it?
Donald Trump.
Who's doing it?
Mitch McConnell.
It's bipartisan screwing.
If you want to pull the party, the major party that is closest to the way you're thinking, to what you're thinking, you must, you must show them that you're capable of not voting for them.
If you don't show them you're capable of not voting for them, they don't have to listen to you.
I promise you that.
I worked within the Democratic Party.
I didn't listen or have to listen to anything on the left while I was working in the Democratic Party because the left had nowhere to go.
I wonder how many blue check Hollywood dicks I'm going to see on Twitter say, hey, told a homeless person vote blue today.
Hi, everybody.
Welcome to the Jimmy Dore Show.
Guess what's happening?
Biden and Bernie forces are clashing during the convention meeting.
And the subtitle is disgusting, disturbing and unacceptable, says Nina Turner.
Sanders, former campaign coach, unacceptable.
We're going to come back to that part.
Brent Welder, you know, Brent Welder, friend of the show, made a very good run for Congress.
He's a lawyer, represents workers.
Great guy.
And he says today, as a Bernie Sanders nominee on the DNC Rules Committee, I propose an anti-corruption amendment to ban corporate PAC money to the DNC and to ban corporate lobbyists from serving on the DNC.
The Biden camp recruited a corporate lobbyist on the Rules Committee to speak against it.
I am deeply disturbed.
The DNC Rules Committee is tabling discussion on a proposal to reject corporate PAC and banning corporate lobbyists from serving on the DNC.
The time to take dark money and interest out of the DNC is now.
I voted against tabling this measure, says Jessica Ramos.
So at a virtual gathering of a key committee for the DNC, Bernie Sanders'allied members said Joe Biden appointees called them children and made other rude comments.
The spat began when Brent Welder, a Sanders appointee on the Convention Rules Committee, proposed a resolution to change the party charter to refuse all corporate PAC dollars and limit corporate lobbyists from serving on the DNC for several years.
A Biden appointee called for it to be tabled, which some Sanders appointees said caught them off guard.
Tabling until when?
Asked Welder.
Generally, until someone makes a successful motion to take it off the table, replied former Representative Barney Frank, the co-chair of the meeting.
After the committee expires, if no one has moved to take it off the table successfully, then it dies with the committee.
Wow, that doesn't make any sense at all, said Welder.
We've now voted to put the proposal back on the table, and we're voting on the amendment.
I'm voting yes to ban corporate PAC money and ban corporate lobbyists, says Jessica Ramos.
The proposal was voted down.
45 yeses, 105 noes, and 8 abstentions.
The DNC allowed for little discussion and shut down the Zoom link shortly thereafter.
Worth noting, the first motion to table the proposal was previously scripted.
Many Biden nominees, this is Brent Welder, many Biden nominees abstained, but 105 of them are now on record opposing this anti-corruption amendment.
I believe every Bernie Sanders nominee supported it, thanks to all the real progressives for having my back and fighting against corruption.
A little bit more to this story.
You're acting like children.
You're going to lose anyway, so get over it, a committee member said.
The argument served as a reminder of the tensions that are still simmering below the surface between moderates and progressives as the party seeks a united front against President Donald Trump.
It was not only disturbing but disrespectful, said Nina Turner, Sanders'former campaign co-chair who served on the committee.
Disgusting, disturbing, unacceptable.
There's that word again.
And it's no way to restore the faith of the people who already suspect the Democratic Party is unfair.
No, that is no way.
Here's what Pat, the independent Black Lives Matter, you know, Pat the burner.
He used to be Peter Douche.
He says, 105 Biden nominees to the DNC Rules Committee voted no on an anti-corruption amendment banning the DNC from taking corporate PAC money.
So when you hear them talk about reforming the party, know that they are full of it.
What is it?
It is shit.
Breaking, says Ryan Knight.
The DNC committee just voted down a measure to reject corporate money and ban corporate lobbyists from serving on the DNC.
The DNC has no desire to make any systemic changes.
They keep showing us with every vote that they want to remain a party that works for the oligarchy.
Brent Welder, DNC delegate for Bernie Sanders, says, I think it's ironic that my anti-corruption amendment today was the thing that exposed the corruption at the heart of the DNC.
Kind of ironic.
Big money and corporate interests have a stranglehold on our government and on both our parties.
Today is just obvious, symbolic example of that.
So let's bring on Brent Welder.
Brent Welder is here.
We have him today.
A friend of the show.
He is an attorney for workers and a true progressive who ran for Congress in 2018 in Kansas as a corporate free candidate and he was endorsed by the Justice Democrats.
He is an advisor.
He was an advisor for Bernie Sanders and is currently a DNC Rules Committee member for Sanders.
Brent, welcome back to the show.
I appreciate you being here.
Hey, I love it.
Thanks, Jimmy.
Thanks for having me on.
Let me say thank you so much for your support of my campaign a couple years ago.
We did something that nobody has ever seen before in Kansas and came really, really close to winning.
So I really appreciate that.
No problem.
I think I even did a fundraiser for you, didn't I?
You did.
You did.
Yes, that was amazing.
Thank you so much.
That was really great.
No problem.
So that was my pleasure, by the way.
Tell us about your amendment on the DNC Rules Committee and tell us why.
Just tell us what happened and tell us what the amendment was supposed to do and what happened.
Absolutely.
You know, and I'll even start a little bit.
bit further back so four years ago i was on uh bernie had nominated me to the dnc platform committee and i wrote an amendment to get money completely out of politics and the first thing the establishment did was put up a corporate lobbyist to speak against my amendment then i thought it was an accident or just sort of hilarious or maybe they just literally couldn't find somebody That wasn't a corporate lobbyist, but I certainly didn't think it was like some kind of strategy.
But literally, this time, I made the same kind of amendment at the rules committee, and they did the exact same thing again.
In fact, the corporate lobbyists, the whole, the whole point of his argument, he was saying that he was a corporate lobbyist.
So I'm telling you, they're not only really corrupt, they're frankly stupid because they think a compelling argument is, oh, well, look at this guy.
He's a corporate lobbyist, and he just really seems like a nice guy.
I mean, it's unbelievable the realization that that was their planned strategy to speak against this.
So now, so tell, can you explain?
Now, you are an insider, so you know this stuff.
So, could you tell our audience about the special interests that are involved in the DNC, like the lobbyists, the vendors, the people who make their living off the party?
Well, so there's, you know, there's all kinds of positions with the DNC or DNC.
Everybody sees chairs.
And then there's hundreds of members from around the country that are on the DNC, you know, the committee members, I guess they're called.
And, you know, a lot of them are somewhat elected in various ways.
Every state has their own way of doing it.
There's also 75 that they call at-large members that are supposed to be elected, but every single time the chairman puts in his or her 75 closest, you know, friends, cronies, or lobbyists onto the committee.
And even though they're a smaller percentage and they're not a majority, what they then do is they take these 75 people and they stack all the subcommittees so that a majority of these people are making all the rules.
They're, you know, weighing in on what the party stands for and everything.
And so, you know, I have no idea what percentage of the DNC members are actually technically corporate lobbyists, maybe used to be corporate lobbyists, maybe will be in the future.
Maybe they're not a registered lobbyist.
Maybe they're just a corporate hack or a corporate advocate, right?
But what I'm telling you is that they are everywhere.
They are everywhere.
Apparently, they couldn't even find somebody that wasn't a corporate lobbyist to speak against my anti-corruption amendment.
Wait, so I mean, that's kind of, I mean, I don't know.
I get, I always think I'm over being stunned by the corruption inside the Democratic Party.
But this is even, this is a little, so you're telling me that it's, they couldn't even find someone who wasn't a corporate lobbyist to speak against this.
So that this committee is so riddled with corporate hacks and bought and paid for people who are actually the mouthpieces of corporations.
They're so riddled with it.
They couldn't even find someone who wasn't that to speak against your anti-corruption bill.
Well, and I mean, you know, and I say that somewhat, you know, joking, but I mean, you know, what other possible reason could they have to have the worst possible person you could have?
Like, hey, you know, hey, we're not, we're not beholden to corporate interests.
Here's a corporate lobbyist to tell you that.
You know, I mean, how insane is that?
It doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
Well, it is insane.
It is insane.
And I'm really glad that you're here to elucidate this.
Is that the word?
Is that a word?
I don't even know if that's a word.
If it is, it's a lot smarter than my vocabulary.
Okay, but I think it's that's great because you on you are real progressive.
You fight for real workers.
That's your life's work.
And you're successful and you're on the inside trying to change things as a real progressive and you're getting overwhelmingly trounced by the corporate wall of right?
That's what's, I mean, what was the vote on that?
Again, what was it?
105 to what?
Yeah, it was 245, I believe.
Yeah.
Yeah.
105 to 45.
Well, and, you know, and it doesn't stop there.
And I think you kind of talked about this earlier, and we can get into this, you know, more extensively if you'd like.
But not only did they put up a corporate lobbyist, but then they had that corporate lobbyist try to pull a backhanded tactic to try to sink the amendment without them having to actually go on the record and make the vote.
Right.
So they have a they have a corrupt person speaking against the amendment and then they use corrupt tactics.
This is done in front of America.
And then they're going to the voters and asking for the public trust in the party.
Unbelievable.
You've said a couple of times that I'm a Democratic Party insider.
I certainly don't consider myself that.
And I think if it weren't for Bernie Sanders, I certainly would never have been within snipping distance of these committees.
Right.
I mean, I mean, you have an inside look as far as that you're on these committees.
That's what I mean.
Sure, sure, yeah.
Yeah.
Right.
You're certainly not welcomed by the corporate Democrats.
The people who are running the party are not fans of yours.
That's my guess.
Okay.
So now not only did you have, you have these unbelievably corrupt corporate committees packed with corporate lobbyists, and they're doing this corruption right out in the open, these corrupt tactics, but it's also being co-chaired by people who are corrupt.
Barney Frank is the co-chair of the DNC Rules Committee.
Isn't he a director of a New York bank?
How is that allowed?
It's probably allowed.
It's apparently encouraged.
I mean, honestly, do you think he would have been the chair if he didn't have that bank position?
And I'm not even joking about that.
Okay.
So this is kind of right.
Again, I'm still gobsmacked.
I don't know if that's the right word, but I'm slack jawed.
I could think of some more words.
Like this.
Well, you know, I mean, the thing is, it's not, you know, how, you know, you hear people say, you know, it's not a bug.
It's a feature.
That's what it is.
We'd see it as a bug, but they see it as a feature.
They think it's a great thing, probably.
So it would be one thing if these votes were close.
You know, if it was like 75 to 74 or 80 to 70 or these votes are like they just, they just voted the platform committee, just voted against Medicare for all like 140 to 30.
Like it's not even close.
Like, for instance, in the Democratic Party, depending on which poll you look at, 85 to 90% of registered Democrats are for Medicare for all.
But the vote on the platform committee is the exact opposite of that.
85% of the platform committee is against Medicare for all.
So this party is not an actual party is my point.
It's actually just like a functionary set up by rapacious oligarchs to fuck over people and screw everyone, including progressives.
So it's not really a party because it doesn't represent the people who are its members.
It's not really the corruption is like manifest, like you're saying, and they're doing it right.
Well, Chris Hedges has been saying for years that they're so corrupt, they're lying and cheating and stealing right out in the open now.
And so that's how bad it's gotten.
So my question to you is, what the hell are you doing in this party?
Right, right.
And this brings up a really, really good point that is really important for me to discuss, clarify.
Hey, I mean, I had a private hour-long phone conversation with you while I was running for Congress, and you were asking me the exact same thing.
Like, why the hell are you in this party, right?
And here's the thing, Jimmy.
I consider the party to be the people, right?
I make a difference between the party and the party leadership because I have had the opportunity over the years.
You know, I mean, I used to, I used to be a field organizer on other presidential campaigns.
I certainly campaigned myself and met hundreds, if not thousands of Democrats all the time.
And what I find among the people is that our party at that level is filled with lots of amazing, really good, really, really progressive people that believe in so many of the same things that you fight for every day, Jimmy, that I fight for.
And that the party leadership is the polar opposite.
And that's one reason I keep bringing up these amendments when I have the opportunity and trying to make changes.
My goal is to root out the corruption among the leadership that is not representative of the party as a whole at all.
So that's, I think, the big difference.
Yeah, I mean, everybody's behind that goal.
Like I said, if it was 75 to 74, if it was even 80 to 70, these are overwhelming votes.
There doesn't seem to be any light at the tunnel at the end of the tunnel.
And the train is going full speed.
So we're heading for a crat.
Right now, they're getting ready to kick 27 million people out of their houses while also not giving them health care while also not giving them a UBI or extending their unemployment or anything.
And that's coming from the top of the party.
And that's, and there's no one inside the party in Congress who will even push back against this a little.
Bernie Sanders will not call out Chuck Schumer.
He will not call out Nancy Pelosi.
In fact, Bernie Sanders voted for the biggest upward transfer of wealth in the history of humankind.
And then he lied about what he did.
So 96 to nothing.
When do you start realizing this is a failed strategy, Brett?
I mean, I love you and I love your work.
And I think it's great that you're exposing their corruption, but this is a fool's errand.
You knew what the result of this thing was going to be before you went there.
It's nuts what's going on.
And you know the only way there's ever, this doesn't make any sense.
What is the, what is the success rate?
Zero.
They're going backwards.
Hillary Clinton offered us 50 and under over for Medicare for all.
Joe Biden won't even give us 55.
We're going backwards.
So if you're, if you hate Trump and you hate right-wingers and fascism, we're going to get a worst one in four years.
It's not going away.
Joe Biden and Barack Obama made it possible for Donald Trump to send goons into Portland and arrest them and throw them into red advance.
Barack Obama signed the section then 1021 of the NDAA.
And he knew what he was doing, the ACL.
You knew what he was doing.
I knew what he was doing at the time.
So did Glenn Greenwald and everybody else.
And here we are and nobody's talking about it.
This party is not a party.
The people want it to be a party, but it's not.
This is an organization set up by rapacious oligarchs to screw you.
So what the Democratic Party is, is they are the ambulance.
They are the car in front of the ambulance.
They won't get out of the fucking way because everybody knows we want Medicare for all in a UBI and debt relief and mortgage relief and they won't goddamn do it.
They're the ones stopping it.
Nancy Pelosi was the one who stopped the UBI.
Nancy Pelosi was the one who wanted to means test every goddamn thing they gave to working people as she funneled $5 trillion upwards to her husband.
That's what's going on in this party.
This is not a political party as much as you want it to be.
So what is your strategy going forward?
Well, you know, and we haven't even started talking about super delegates, which I mean, talk about like literal, it's literally just not just stealing democracy.
It's unbelievable.
I spoke against, I spoke a lot about that in yesterday's meeting as well.
You know, you brought up Rashida Talib.
I'm a big fan.
I actually just donated to her a couple of days ago.
She's in a really, really tight race.
I actually encourage everybody to go and support her.
Phone bank donate however they can.
She is, you know, as far as I can tell, she is she is a really strong progressive, really bold.
And the establishment is coming after her so hardcore.
You know what happened?
Oh, I thought the establishment doesn't go after incumbents.
Now all of a sudden they are.
You know who else they're going after?
Ilhan Omar.
Brett, of course they are.
So why are you in this fucking party who wants to get rid of?
They do not want you.
You are never getting a hold of power in this party ever.
Do you think you're going to?
No, listen, I completely agree with you, Jimmy, that the leadership of this party would love it if I would go away and never come back again, right?
But here's the difference: is that I really do.
I am a, and maybe I, you know, maybe I'm an idealistic.
I think I think that the party is ultimately the people.
What is a country?
The country is not who the president is at the time.
A country is made up of the people.
And who is a party?
The party is not who the leadership is at the time.
The party is the people, right?
And I know, well, I just know you're shaking your head.
That's not correct.
The people have no influence.
So there was a Princeton study done, and I'm sure you're aware of it, that proved beyond a fucking doubt that we do not live in a democracy, Brent.
We live in a rapacious oligarchy, that the people who are members of the parties, their will and desires are not reflected back in policy one bit.
The minimum, as Chomsky says, the minimum that an elected representative is supposed to do is represent the interests of the people that they ask to vote for them.
That's the minimum of what they're supposed to do in a democracy.
And they're not doing that.
And so rinse, repeat, do the same thing over and over while 27 million people get kicked out and the nominee for the party vows to fucking veto the solution to our problems.
You're going to go vote for that guy?
No, I mean, you know, we're in agreeance here, right?
The leadership of our party is completely out of whack.
They're completely insane.
They make the wrong decisions.
They're worshiping the almighty dollar instead of doing the least bit to stand up for regular people.
You know, what I want is to empower the people who consider themselves to empower the people, period, and to accept the help of the people that are good people, that believe in progressive values, even if they consider themselves to, you know, if they're registered Democrat, that's great.
I want them to help me in the mission.
And I think, honestly, that the people agree with you.
The people, I think even the Democrats, the Democratic voters and activists for the most part, you know, realize that there is way too much corruption.
Now, should they be doing a hell of a lot more to kick the bums out?
Absolutely freaking lootly.
Absolutely, they can, or they should be.
And, you know, that's what I'm trying to do.
You know how you kick them out?
You know how you kick the bums out, Brett?
You don't vote for them.
That's how you kick the bums out.
You stop fucking voting for them.
And, you know, goddamn it.
We took over the Democrats, the party, Nancy Pelosi, it took over the house.
And what did they do?
They completely passed Trump's complete legislative agenda.
They gave him $132 extra billion dollars to go bomb people as they pretend he's a Putin puppet and a traitor to our country, which is a nice skirt to hide behind while you're screwing everybody in the country.
Oh, look over there at Russia.
What are you doing for the people?
Nothing.
They're doing nothing.
And I just want to play this for you because this is the problem.
Here's Lawrence O'Donnell, and he's going to explain it to us.
If you want to pull the party, the major party that is closest to the way you're thinking to what you're Thinking.
You must, you must show them that you're capable of not voting for them.
If you don't show them you're capable of not voting for them, they don't have to listen to you.
I promise you that.
I worked within the Democratic Party.
I didn't listen or have to listen to anything on the left while I was working in the Democratic Party because the left had nowhere to go.
So when you pledge your vote, like AOC and every other member of the squad and Bernie Sanders pledges your vote to the party, which is what you're doing, you realize that you're neutering yourself and you're guaranteeing that there won't be progressive change happening inside the party, right?
um Well, you certainly are supporting a corrupt leadership, it sounds like, yes.
Okay.
Well, Brent, I don't, I'm not trying to, you are a great guy, and I love you.
I think we need more guys like you around.
I love you back, buddy.
And I understand that people like Rasheed Talib and AOC and Bernie are put in tough positions, but that's why they took the job to be in tough positions.
And when they won't stand up to their corrupt leadership, that makes them part of the corruption.
You got AOC already pledged her vote to Biden in April, and then she complains that Joe Biden hasn't called her.
Why in the fuck would Joe Biden call you, AOC?
He already has your vote and endorsement.
You are a party dupe on purpose.
So we're not getting anywhere.
This takeover of the Democratic Party is a pipe dream.
It's not happening.
Nick Braun is starting a third one.
And we're going to have a convention on August 30th or 31st, right after the bother two.
And I would invite you to come join us because you're the kind of guy we need.
You're smart, you're ambitious, you're bright, you're progressive, and you're uncorruptible.
So, Brent, you're a great guy.
Thanks for coming on.
Anything else you'd like to say about your experience?
I mean, you know, I just want people to vote for someone that I don't believe in.
So I'm never going to do the whole, you know, welder, you know, lesser of two evils or whatever else.
I encourage people to do that.
You know, I'm continuing the fight.
I hope people will go on Twitter and follow me at Brent Welder.
Rent with the Nan Welder like the job because I'm going to be, I'm actually going to be posting the list of the people that voted against the anti-corruption amendment.
Yes, that's great.
Very useful.
That's very helpful.
And it'll be very helpful just to see the kind of people that populate those kind of committees.
Yeah, yeah, it really will.
Well, hey, Jimmy, thank you so much for everything that you do, all the work you put in, everything that your incredible staff there does.
You know, I think you and I have a lot, certainly a hell of a lot more in common than we have differences.
And just keep doing what you're doing, okay?
Oh, my God.
It's Utah Senator Mitt Romney's calling me.
I hope he wants to talk about the amendment to the stimulus bill he's proposing with Susan Collins.
Hello.
Hi, Jimmy.
You left out husband, father, grandfather, former governor, and egg lover.
Egg lover?
Oh, yes, Jimmy.
I really do love eggs ever so much.
Don't you?
Dude, come on, are you kidding?
I love eggs.
But can you tell us how your amendment will help unemployed people during the pandemic?
Sure.
Let's talk eggs first, though.
I really do love eggs, you know.
Flat, lumpy, or dumpy with slaw.
There's simply no egg that won't drive me wumpy.
I'll even eat them when I'm sick and all mumpy.
Really?
Buttered, stirred, curried, or custard.
I'll take them steamed, creamed, or with mustard.
There's simply no egg that I will not eat.
There's something about them that's neater than neat.
Even better than hot dog, my favorite meat.
It's like they're American as apple pie.
Exactly, Jimmy.
And I'll tell you why.
They come in all races, colors, and creeds, like the great fabric of our American scene.
Please explain further about what you mean.
There's white eggs and tan eggs, brown eggs, Afghan eggs, toasted, roasted, or simmered in lard.
You'll grow to love them.
It's really not hard.
I see.
Served on a platter or in a tureen.
Simply add spinach for eggs fluorentine.
Any way you take them, eggs can't be faulted.
You can even eat them lightly sea-salted.
Wow.
So does your amendment include giving sick Americans free health care during a deadly pandemic, Mitt?
Fuck no, you bunch of assholes.
Move to France.
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